| tseliot | jcristau: are you around? | 11:41 |
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| jcristau | tseliot: kinda. | 15:42 |
| Sarvatt | wow, RAOF/TheMuso really lucked out, they managed to get on the plane right before all qantas flights were grounded. hopefully getting back wont be a problem | 16:25 |
| jcristau | what happened? | 16:36 |
| jcristau | a, strike. | 16:38 |
| jcristau | s/,/h,/ | 16:38 |
| LA2 | what different types and kinds of fonts are there? Why does my default runic font look so thin and weak? ᚠᚡᚢᚣᚤᚥᚦᚧᚨ | 21:41 |
| bjsnider | fonts are available in gnome-tweak-tool | 22:14 |
| JanC | LA2: you can use whatever TrueType or PostScript Type 1 fonts you want | 22:15 |
| JanC | (and OpenType fonts of course) | 22:16 |
| LA2 | JanC: should I set this under the System->Preferences->Appearance->Fonts? And what font should I pick to get good runes? | 22:38 |
| LA2 | and if there are good runic fonts, why aren't they the default in Ubuntu? | 22:38 |
| JanC | LA2: I don't speak any languages that use runic fonts | 22:44 |
| LA2 | you speak English | 22:44 |
| JanC | and about why they aren't the default, there are two possible reasons: 1. there are no open fonts that are good, or 2. nobody ever complained, and those who decide on the default don't know more than I do | 22:45 |
| LA2 | in the default (Liberation Sans? Monospace?) I can mix Latin (ABC), Greek (ΑΒΓΔ), Cyrillic (АБВГ) and they all look good together, but the runic (ᚠᚡᚢᚣᚤᚥᚦ) look very different. | 22:46 |
| JanC | LA2: English is generally written in a latin script, not a runic one (at least for more than thousand ears now) | 22:46 |
| JanC | years | 22:46 |
| JanC | and I see what you mean BTW | 22:46 |
| LA2 | is there a name to describe the problem, e.g. "these runes are not TTF" or "you should talk to Mr. X"? | 22:47 |
| LA2 | I really have no clue, beyond the fact that they are ugly | 22:48 |
| JanC | well, first of all, the font system will fallback to a "lesser default" font in case the main default doesn't support a particular script | 22:49 |
| LA2 | how can I find out which Unicode characters are covered by Liberation Sans? | 22:49 |
| JanC | so probably the runic glyphs come from a different font | 22:49 |
| LA2 | that sounds reasonable | 22:49 |
| LA2 | and where do I find the people who can add runes to Liberation Sans? | 22:50 |
| JanC | I think there is a tool somewhere that can find which (installed) fonts support a particular script | 22:50 |
| LA2 | what does "script" mean here? Is "runic" one of the scripts? | 22:51 |
| JanC | yes | 22:53 |
| LA2 | of course, Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_fonts | 22:56 |
| JanC | LA2: it seems like the 'ttf-junicode' & 'ttf-linex' packages have fonts that support runic | 23:00 |
| LA2 | after I apt-get ttf-junicode, what do I need to do? | 23:03 |
| JanC | it should be available in any application you (re)start after installing | 23:03 |
| LA2 | indeed, so it does | 23:04 |
| LA2 | still looks bad in monospace, though | 23:05 |
| LA2 | so, Ubuntu should make ttf-junicode part of the default installation and much of this will be solved | 23:07 |
| JanC | LA2: runic isn't exactly used a lot thesedays, so I doubt they will include it by default | 23:10 |
| JanC | but maybe it could become the "default fallback for runic if installed" | 23:10 |
| JanC | and if other default fonts come with bad runic glyphs, those can be masked out IIRC | 23:11 |
| LA2 | yeah, installing ttf-junicode didn't change the other scripts | 23:20 |
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