| magespawn | howdy all | 07:08 |
|---|---|---|
| Kilos | morning all | 07:19 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 07:19 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 07:19 | |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 07:23 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ty buddy | 07:29 |
| Maaz | Dont get familiar now Kilos | 07:29 |
| kbmonkey | gah, been trying to get online for an hour :p damn skyrove, what a load of horseradish | 07:37 |
| Kilos | hi kbmonkey had similar hassles with voda after last nights storm | 07:38 |
| kbmonkey | hi Kilos | 07:38 |
| Kilos | mailed you | 07:38 |
| kbmonkey | well I don't see why as their hotspot runs off dsl in the background. | 07:39 |
| Kilos | pc probs | 07:39 |
| kbmonkey | their portal page has some strange javascript redirects and it's just really flakey :D | 07:39 |
| kbmonkey | yes I saw you emailed me, ill check it out! | 07:39 |
| Kilos | thier pcs and servers or whatever they use arent linux | 07:39 |
| Kilos | you can download those mags if i remember right | 07:40 |
| Kilos | their | 07:40 |
| kbmonkey | yes I have a collection of the mags already, got the special python issues too | 07:40 |
| Kilos | ah its nuvolari 's buddies | 07:40 |
| Kilos | ah clever lad | 07:40 |
| kbmonkey | wow I am so glad my text mail works, this will help a lot! | 07:41 |
| Kilos | explain the text mail thing | 07:41 |
| Kilos | do you still use your old email providers | 07:42 |
| Kilos | hi zeref bakuman | 07:43 |
| magespawn | gone again | 07:53 |
| magespawn | hi Kilos | 07:53 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn whats gone | 07:53 |
| Kilos | oh him | 07:53 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:53 |
| Kilos | his wireless seems worse than broadband | 07:53 |
| magespawn | bit weird | 07:54 |
| magespawn | i have not had a problem with skyrove | 07:54 |
| Kilos | hows things going by you lad? | 07:54 |
| Kilos | what is skyrove | 07:54 |
| Kilos | kbmonkey also is having probs with them today | 07:55 |
| magespawn | wifi hotspot provider | 07:55 |
| magespawn | good have time today to sort out the mythbuntu sound | 07:56 |
| Kilos | how far can one receive a signal from these wireless goodies | 07:56 |
| Kilos | i tried a search with my cell but it doesnt seem to see any | 07:57 |
| Kilos | dunno if you have to enter the address first or what | 07:57 |
| Kilos | kbmonkey, wb | 07:59 |
| Kilos | magespawn, is also having skyrove probs | 08:00 |
| magespawn | no if you are within range then you should see them | 08:00 |
| magespawn | i have not had a problem with skyrove | 08:00 |
| magespawn | kilos ^^^^ | 08:00 |
| magespawn | it is wifi so depends on the equipment typically only within the establishment | 08:01 |
| kbmonkey | nuvolari, use ^space in alpine to skip between words ;) | 08:02 |
| kbmonkey | I have strong skyrove signal and their portal page always loads, but mostly it loads to a point then stops. | 08:03 |
| kbmonkey | some really flaky system they run ;P | 08:03 |
| Kilos | kbmonkey> gah, been trying to get online for an hour :p damn skyrove, what a load of horseradish | 08:03 |
| kbmonkey | ^^ exactly | 08:03 |
| magespawn | that might be a dsl problem | 08:03 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:04 |
| Kilos | life in the IT world | 08:04 |
| kbmonkey | it worries me that the network isn't secured | 08:04 |
| magespawn | that is a big problem means all passwords are sent in the clear | 08:05 |
| magespawn | firesheep | 08:05 |
| magespawn | firefox add on that allows you to sniff passwords and usernames over wireless networks from anyone connected to that hotspot | 08:06 |
| Kilos | eish thats not clever in todays world | 08:07 |
| magespawn | yup there are all sorts of programs but that one allows any one hacker or not to do it | 08:08 |
| kbmonkey | like wireshark | 08:08 |
| kbmonkey | just set promiscous mode on and see what's flying through the air. scary stuff | 08:09 |
| Kilos | is there no way of getting secured at least from your end | 08:10 |
| Kilos | oh | 08:10 |
| Kilos | wait | 08:10 |
| kbmonkey | depends, gmail uses ssl so that is secure | 08:10 |
| kbmonkey | but irc for example, is not. | 08:10 |
| Kilos | i saw in a linuxtips mail that you can block you pc from being pinged to stop that | 08:10 |
| Kilos | will that work | 08:11 |
| kbmonkey | that will only hide your presence, security through obscurity | 08:11 |
| Kilos | i see if i still got that mail | 08:11 |
| tumbleweed | anything that's not encrypted can be sniffed | 08:11 |
| * kbmonkey sniffs | 08:11 | |
| Kilos | oh my | 08:11 |
| kbmonkey | smells like rain | 08:11 |
| Kilos | morning tumbleweed | 08:12 |
| magespawn | morning tumbleweed | 08:12 |
| tumbleweed | anything that's encrypted can possibly be intercepted (although a security-concious user would notice) by an active attacker who man-in-the-middle attacks the user | 08:12 |
| * tumbleweed waves | 08:12 | |
| magespawn | yup and when on unencrypted wireless the password and user name are sent unencrypted | 08:13 |
| Kilos | whew dicey | 08:15 |
| tumbleweed | magespawn: not entirely sure what you maen by that. what username and password? | 08:16 |
| tumbleweed | unencrypted wifi is just a particularly easy medium to sniff in, but the same problems exist no matter how you are connected to the internet | 08:16 |
| magespawn | when on wifi logging into say facebook - that user name and password | 08:19 |
| magespawn | aye tumbleweed. | 08:21 |
| tumbleweed | facebook's login page itself uses SSL, but once you're logged in, you don't use SSL any more, so your cookie can be sniffed and someone can impersonate you | 08:22 |
| tumbleweed | but your password itself isn't exposed | 08:22 |
| magespawn | they guy who made firesheep was particularly concerned about public wifi though | 08:23 |
| kbmonkey | ssl also means its encrypted between server and client? | 08:23 |
| magespawn | and if you are using the https setting? | 08:23 |
| kbmonkey | the issue is that many sites do not use ssl/https | 08:23 |
| tumbleweed | magespawn: that would help a lot :) | 08:23 |
| magespawn | thats what i set up and lost the use of a whole lot of face book apps lol including the one from nashua to over tech advice to people | 08:25 |
| magespawn | take a look here www.takethislollipop.com next time your are logged into facebook | 08:26 |
| magespawn | scared the daylights out of my wife | 08:26 |
| magespawn | then you might just tighten up the security | 08:26 |
| magespawn | this is cool http://mybroadband.co.za/news/cellular/37130-quiet-cellular-antenna-technology-for-ska.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter | 08:27 |
| Kilos | magespawn, is it text and can i wget it | 08:35 |
| magespawn | not sure | 08:36 |
| magespawn | hold on | 08:36 |
| Kilos | ty | 08:36 |
| Kilos | antennae info i like | 08:37 |
| Kilos | used to build antennae for ham frequencies back in the day | 08:37 |
| magespawn | here is the link on codepad | 08:39 |
| magespawn | http://codepad.org/J0o1D9PI | 08:39 |
| Kilos | ty | 08:41 |
| Kilos | wow one second | 08:41 |
| Kilos | hiya nlsthzn | 08:44 |
| Kilos | welcome to ubuntu-za | 08:44 |
| Kilos | hehe | 08:44 |
| Kilos | kbmonkey, wb | 08:44 |
| nlsthzn | Good morning Uncle Kilos :) | 08:44 |
| kbmonkey | thx Kilos :) | 08:45 |
| magespawn | Kilos did you get it? | 09:17 |
| Kilos | yes ty magespawn but will read when offline otherwise it also goes for data for some unknown reason | 09:18 |
| Kilos | dunno about the codepad way but html ones always go to the site for something | 09:19 |
| magespawn | maintaining connection and the adverts on the page do not help at all | 09:19 |
| Kilos | so when offline i read them and copy paste to a file then delete the html link | 09:20 |
| magespawn | back again not sure what happened there | 09:41 |
| Kilos | its all over | 09:43 |
| Kilos | even Vince-0 went and came | 09:43 |
| Vince-0 | I was offline since last night - just woke up! | 09:43 |
| Kilos | oh my goodness sorry Vince-0 morning | 09:44 |
| Kilos | lol @ kbmonkey | 09:45 |
| Kilos | over 1000 ks | 09:45 |
| Vince-0 | just got battlefield3 so 3am vibes - this game is the best | 10:03 |
| Kilos | on ubuntu? | 10:03 |
| Vince-0 | negative - win7 | 10:03 |
| Kilos | grrrr | 10:03 |
| Kilos | hehe | 10:04 |
| Kilos | imo thats all windows is good for | 10:04 |
| Vince-0 | ur a militant activist! | 10:04 |
| Kilos | lol | 10:04 |
| Vince-0 | true, but it runs virtualbox for linux/bsd tests | 10:04 |
| Kilos | used to love playing war games | 10:04 |
| Vince-0 | actually, ubuntu media pc is on tv - runs m0n0wall VM for traffic shaping | 10:05 |
| Kilos | on tv where? | 10:05 |
| Kilos | learned something new today | 10:07 |
| Kilos | some usb ports on the same usb card are faster than the rest | 10:07 |
| magespawn | usb 2 and such has backwards compatibility | 10:11 |
| magespawn | just fired up a Pentium-s 133mhz | 10:12 |
| Kilos | hi Waceman | 10:12 |
| magespawn | its alive *creepy horror type voice | 10:13 |
| Kilos | whats a pentium s magespawn where it fits in the speed cue | 10:13 |
| Kilos | lol | 10:13 |
| magespawn | very slow think 10-15 years ago | 10:13 |
| magespawn | most phone laugh at this pc | 10:14 |
| Kilos | before pentium 1 and 2 | 10:14 |
| magespawn | think so | 10:14 |
| magespawn | brb | 10:14 |
| Waceman | Howdy Kilos | 10:15 |
| Vince-0 | tv in livingroom | 10:16 |
| Waceman | Kilos: turns out after ubuntu 9 doens't support Legacy nVidia... | 10:16 |
| Waceman | but I wanted to ask the kbmoney if he could think of naything else | 10:17 |
| Kilos | aw thats not lekker | 10:17 |
| Kilos | he was here just now | 10:17 |
| magespawn | kilos was launched in 1995 | 10:18 |
| Kilos | aha | 10:18 |
| magespawn | uses a serial ball mouse | 10:18 |
| Kilos | similar to the old 486 with 40m cpu and 40m ram | 10:18 |
| Kilos | yeah i had that | 10:18 |
| Kilos | was my first prob with ubuntu getting the mouse to work | 10:19 |
| Kilos | and no usb ports | 10:19 |
| magespawn | after that if your friends had a 486 you where king of the hill with this baby | 10:19 |
| Kilos | ya ha ha ha | 10:19 |
| Kilos | but will work as a server | 10:19 |
| Kilos | and play dos games | 10:20 |
| magespawn | yup will be fun to see what i can do with it | 10:20 |
| magespawn | still needs mouse drivers lol | 10:21 |
| Kilos | asked my boet to leave me his i5 lappy in his will | 10:21 |
| Kilos | he just laughed. his 7 years younger | 10:22 |
| Kilos | there was a big job making mouse work | 10:22 |
| Kilos | took weeks | 10:22 |
| Kilos | on ubuntu 8.10 | 10:22 |
| Kilos | had many pages of written instructions | 10:24 |
| Kilos | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto | 10:24 |
| magespawn | this is for those with uncapped connections http://planefinder.net/ | 10:27 |
| magespawn | show a real time map with commercial planes | 10:27 |
| magespawn | ty Kilos | 10:27 |
| Kilos | had to use sudo nano commands | 10:28 |
| Kilos | was a b ig job for a noob | 10:28 |
| magespawn | good way to learn though | 10:31 |
| magespawn | it does not even have a network connection | 10:32 |
| Kilos | ya | 10:32 |
| Kilos | if you dont forget | 10:32 |
| magespawn | i will have to dig out a network card | 10:32 |
| Kilos | lee sharp on the lists just said to me get a usb mouse | 10:32 |
| magespawn | no usb ports | 10:33 |
| Kilos | ya me too | 10:33 |
| Kilos | only after i got the mouse working did i eventually get a usb card to plug in | 10:34 |
| Kilos | here i find an old command i wrote down for sound i think | 10:34 |
| Kilos | sudo modprobe snd-sb (tab,tab to list more) | 10:35 |
| Kilos | hehe | 10:35 |
| magespawn | are you still using the machine | 10:38 |
| Kilos | yeah inna storeroom at the back | 10:38 |
| Kilos | an upgraded 386 as well | 10:39 |
| Kilos | not using sorry | 10:39 |
| Kilos | still have | 10:39 |
| Kilos | feeding the rats now | 10:39 |
| Kilos | hehe magespawn found some pages of serial mouse commands | 10:48 |
| magespawn | also have pentium -mmx running at 200mhz | 10:56 |
| magespawn | brb | 11:00 |
| Kilos | nagedid you win with the seriel mouse | 11:54 |
| Kilos | eish | 11:54 |
| Kilos | magespawn, | 11:54 |
| bakuman | tempa vs tp-link gigabit swithces, R225 8-port tempa, R329 8-port tp-link | 11:57 |
| bakuman | is tp-link n ekstra R100 werd? | 11:57 |
| bakuman | oops tenda | 12:12 |
| nlsthzn | o/ | 13:42 |
| Kilos | weirdest of weird | 15:06 |
| Kilos | i got to /var/cache/apt/archives/ and all thats there is a partial folder and a lock file | 15:07 |
| Kilos | supposed to be all archived packages | 15:07 |
| Kilos | i been robbed | 15:09 |
| Kilos | thank heavens for rsync to external | 15:11 |
| Kilos | be back this evening | 15:28 |
| kbmonkey | I see you got your site up Kilos | 17:33 |
| Kilos | yeah kbmonkey nuvolari helped | 17:34 |
| Kilos | actually did it all | 17:35 |
| Kilos | hey | 17:35 |
| Kilos | wait i catch you | 17:35 |
| Waceman | kbmonkey: how's it going? | 17:41 |
| kbmonkey | hi Waceman | 17:42 |
| kbmonkey | I had wifi troubles this morn so gave up after an hour of trying :p | 17:42 |
| Waceman | ah man, annoying | 17:42 |
| Waceman | thanks for showing me those debian articles.. they were very helpful... | 17:42 |
| Waceman | but alas, I don't think x server supports my card no more | 17:43 |
| Waceman | kbmonkey: can I tell you the steps I took? :) | 17:45 |
| kbmonkey | I can't promise anything but let us try ;) | 17:47 |
| Waceman | thanks :) OK I used the steps from this article: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDriversNvidiaWay | 17:47 |
| Waceman | 1. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop | 17:48 |
| Waceman | 2. export CC=gcc-4.4 (because the installer requires both nVidia kernel and linux kernel to have same gcc) | 17:48 |
| Waceman | 3. sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-71.86.15-pkg1.run (says install script failed... do I want to continue.. select 'yes' and installs fine) | 17:48 |
| Waceman | 4. modprobe nvidia (then went and inserted that line into file: /etc/init.d/rc.local so that it loads nVidia every reboot) | 17:48 |
| Waceman | 5. create xorg.conf in /etc/X11 | 17:48 |
| Waceman | So I did all those steps, rebooted... screen flashes and get an error and have to boot into graphics safe mode | 17:49 |
| Waceman | This is what the error looked like: | 17:50 |
| Waceman | (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so | 17:50 |
| Waceman | (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (loader failed, 7) | 17:50 |
| Waceman | (EE) No drivers available | 17:50 |
| kbmonkey | soz ran out of juice | 17:56 |
| kbmonkey | internet juice | 17:57 |
| Kilos | np | 17:57 |
| kbmonkey | did you get that link Kilos | 17:57 |
| Kilos | nossir | 17:57 |
| kbmonkey | Waceman lets see | 17:58 |
| kbmonkey | did you try any of the other methods in that page? | 17:59 |
| Waceman | I wrote it all out ;) | 17:59 |
| Waceman | thanks OK I used the steps from this article: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDriversNvidiaWay | 17:59 |
| Waceman | 1. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop | 17:59 |
| Waceman | 2. export CC=gcc-4.4 (because the installer requires both nVidia kernel and linux kernel to have same gcc) | 17:59 |
| Waceman | 3. sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-71.86.15-pkg1.run (says install script failed... do I want to continue.. select 'yes' and installs fine) | 17:59 |
| Waceman | 4. modprobe nvidia (then went and inserted that line into file: /etc/init.d/rc.local so that it loads nVidia every reboot) | 17:59 |
| Waceman | 5. create xorg.conf in /etc/X11 19:48:31 | 17:59 |
| Waceman | So I did all those steps, rebooted... screen flashes and get an error and have to boot into graphics safe mode 19:49:49 | 17:59 |
| Waceman | This is what the error looked like: | 17:59 |
| Waceman | (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so | 17:59 |
| Waceman | (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (loader failed, 7) | 17:59 |
| Waceman | (EE) No drivers available | 17:59 |
| kbmonkey | no i mean, did you try the alternative drivers? like vesa, nv or nouveau? | 18:01 |
| kbmonkey | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers | 18:02 |
| kbmonkey | see that one, its a different page | 18:02 |
| kbmonkey | perhaps try one of the free drivers | 18:02 |
| kbmonkey | that page also has other methods (apart from running .run ) | 18:02 |
| Waceman | I think it automatically uses versa.. and the open gl screensavers work, but are quite slow.. but for now .. that's what I'm using | 18:03 |
| kbmonkey | hmm yes then its not using your card fully | 18:03 |
| Waceman | how will I know what it's using? | 18:04 |
| Waceman | there's no xorg.conf in X11 now? | 18:04 |
| Waceman | I reformatted everything | 18:04 |
| Waceman | what other methods besides .run? :) | 18:04 |
| kbmonkey | section #3 troubleshooting #3 hardware acc doesnt work | 18:04 |
| kbmonkey | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers | 18:04 |
| kbmonkey | there are a couple methods there, try the free drivers | 18:05 |
| kbmonkey | can you run glxinfo? | 18:05 |
| Waceman | no, I have to install it again, what was that command? | 18:06 |
| Waceman | oh wait it says :P | 18:06 |
| kbmonkey | pls use pastebin | 18:07 |
| kbmonkey | pastebin.com | 18:07 |
| kbmonkey | for anything more than 3 lines | 18:07 |
| kodez | hello everyone. how's your saturday | 18:07 |
| Kilos | hi kodez ok here ty | 18:07 |
| kbmonkey | hi kodez | 18:07 |
| kbmonkey | its halloween and all spooky outside | 18:08 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:08 |
| Waceman | ok, what do you want from the glxinfo output? | 18:08 |
| kbmonkey | does it error? | 18:08 |
| kbmonkey | paste all of it | 18:08 |
| kbmonkey | in pastebin.com pls | 18:08 |
| kodez | hi kilos, how are you? i've been offline for quite sometime. what's? | 18:08 |
| kodez | where can i learn more about starting a linux user group? | 18:09 |
| Kilos | ok here ty kodez , and you? | 18:09 |
| Waceman | ok, it's on my other pc... gonna try set up IRC on that... | 18:09 |
| kodez | kilos, i am in good shape and spirit | 18:09 |
| Waceman | Do I use Jabber? | 18:09 |
| Kilos | good | 18:09 |
| kbmonkey | ooh no thats fine Waceman | 18:10 |
| kbmonkey | simply if glxinfo errors then your drivers are not setup | 18:10 |
| kbmonkey | but if it shows all kinds of info, then drivers are fine | 18:10 |
| kbmonkey | what monitor do you have? crt? lcd? | 18:11 |
| Waceman | says direct rendering: yes | 18:11 |
| Waceman | crt | 18:11 |
| kbmonkey | could be the default resolution is too high for your screen | 18:11 |
| kbmonkey | iirc there lines we can put in xorg.conf to make it use a specific resolution | 18:11 |
| kbmonkey | also consider a faulty card :( | 18:12 |
| Waceman | iirc - what? | 18:12 |
| kbmonkey | if i remember correctly | 18:12 |
| kbmonkey | :D | 18:12 |
| Waceman | this is what tumbleweed found: The 71 and 96 series of proprietary nVidia drivers, as provided by the nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-glx packages in Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, are not compatible with the X.Org included in Ubuntu 8.10. | 18:13 |
| Waceman | from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseNotes | 18:13 |
| === kbmonkey_ is now known as kbmonkey | ||
| Waceman | this is what tumbleweed found: The 71 and 96 series of proprietary nVidia drivers, as provided by the nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-glx packages in Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, are not compatible with the X.Org included in Ubuntu 8.10. | 18:18 |
| Waceman | from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseNotes | 18:18 |
| Waceman | this is what tumbleweed found: The 71 and 96 series of proprietary nVidia drivers, as provided by the nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-glx packages in Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, are not compatible with the X.Org included in Ubuntu 8.10. | 18:18 |
| Waceman | from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseNotes | 18:18 |
| Kilos | kbmonkey_, wb thats really a bad connection hey | 18:18 |
| Waceman | lol | 18:18 |
| kbmonkey | ran out of credit | 18:18 |
| Kilos | eish | 18:19 |
| kbmonkey | thx :) | 18:19 |
| Kilos | kodez died same time | 18:19 |
| kbmonkey | oh okay Waceman I see | 18:19 |
| kbmonkey | thats a tricky one, we need expert help here | 18:19 |
| Waceman | and who's that expert? ;) | 18:19 |
| kbmonkey | try the #ubuntu support channel? | 18:19 |
| Waceman | ok | 18:20 |
| kbmonkey | Im by no means an nvidia expert, I got mine working by accident after many days of struggling :P | 18:20 |
| kbmonkey | I mean, if the drivers are not compatible with xorg, then what.. | 18:20 |
| Waceman | well, I reckon I just leave it... | 18:20 |
| kbmonkey | try the nouveau drivers | 18:21 |
| kbmonkey | theyre free ones, not from nvidia | 18:21 |
| Waceman | how can I see which one's I'm currently using? | 18:21 |
| Kilos | kodez, wb | 18:21 |
| kbmonkey | I'm not too sure, there is a way, the wiki may say? | 18:21 |
| kbmonkey | its a _lot_ of reading, but well detailed | 18:21 |
| kodez | kilos, thanks. i'm using my laptop and it switches itself off if the fan is not working | 18:22 |
| kbmonkey | doesnt glxinfo tell the version driver? | 18:22 |
| kbmonkey | kodez someone told me other day the same problem | 18:22 |
| kbmonkey | they bought a laptop cooling stand, now it has now problem :D | 18:23 |
| kbmonkey | no* | 18:23 |
| kodez | i don't have money at the moment to buy other stuff. i hope to buy another laptop as this one is already old | 18:24 |
| kbmonkey | you never know Waceman perhaps those alternative drivers work on the older cards! | 18:27 |
| Waceman | yeah.. .can't find which one's I currently have | 18:27 |
| Waceman | can't find it in glxinfo | 18:27 |
| Kilos | Waceman, try letting a fan blow onto the lappy | 18:28 |
| Waceman | a fan? | 18:29 |
| Kilos | even put 2 rulers under lappy to lift it a bit so air can flow under it too | 18:29 |
| Kilos | eish sorry Waceman | 18:29 |
| Kilos | was meant for kodez | 18:29 |
| Waceman | :) | 18:29 |
| Kilos | sorry | 18:29 |
| Kilos | kodez^^ | 18:30 |
| kbmonkey | thats a good idea Kilos! elevate it and blow a desk fan underneath it | 18:30 |
| Kilos | yeah | 18:30 |
| kodez | no problem kilos | 18:30 |
| Kilos | i dunno where they get the horrest but thats where you wanna cool | 18:30 |
| Kilos | hottest | 18:31 |
| kodez | i just need to start generating an income in order to build my computer studio | 18:31 |
| kbmonkey | is blerry horrest today! ;D | 18:31 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:36 |
| Waceman | no one every responds to me in #ubuntu... | 18:40 |
| Kilos | you have to just be patient Waceman | 18:41 |
| Kilos | some times it takes hours | 18:41 |
| Kilos | Waceman, try explain your prob nicely to them so they dont have to first ask questions | 18:56 |
| Waceman | ok | 18:56 |
| Waceman | thanks | 18:57 |
| kbmonkey | sorry I dont have that experience to see the solution Waceman | 18:59 |
| kbmonkey | but try those other methods | 18:59 |
| kbmonkey | just in case | 18:59 |
| Kilos | wace and also bump them every hour or so by doing a /me then repeat you request | 19:00 |
| * Kilos like this | 19:00 | |
| Kilos | Waceman, ^^ | 19:01 |
| Kilos | i am sure they all wait for someone else to help first as well | 19:01 |
| kodez | i just started to blog today. i will be happy if some of you can visit my blog (kodexz.blogger.com) and let me know what you thing | 19:01 |
| Kilos | no other place is helpful like ubuntu-za | 19:02 |
| Kilos | as soon as i get data i will go look kodez | 19:02 |
| kodez | thing = think | 19:02 |
| kodez | thanks kilos | 19:02 |
| Waceman | kodez: page doens't load for me? | 19:03 |
| Waceman | thanks Kilos | 19:03 |
| Kilos | yw | 19:03 |
| Kilos | there must be someone else in the world that has had that problem | 19:04 |
| kodez | let me check what's the problem. it was working well earlier | 19:04 |
| Kilos | you cant be alone | 19:04 |
| kbmonkey | have you tried the ubuntuforums Waceman ? | 19:09 |
| kbmonkey | bound to be someone there who had the same problem | 19:09 |
| Waceman | I've searched them.. but at this stage I'm calling it ;p | 19:09 |
| Waceman | found on the forums people saying the driver isn't support any more | 19:10 |
| kbmonkey | that's why you used an older one | 19:10 |
| kbmonkey | maybe the debian forums | 19:10 |
| octoquad | hello hello :) | 19:11 |
| kbmonkey | hi hi :) | 19:11 |
| Kilos | hiya octoquad | 19:12 |
| Kilos | does anyone here have admin rights on ubuntu-za | 19:14 |
| Waceman | Kilos: sudo ubuntu-za ;) | 19:15 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:15 |
| Kilos | in the channel | 19:15 |
| octoquad | Kilos: for the site? | 19:15 |
| Kilos | yeah ubuntu-za.org | 19:16 |
| Kilos | someone helped the fly with stuff there last week but i forget who | 19:16 |
| kodez | i am sorry to post a wrong link the correct one is http://kodexz.blogspot.com/ | 19:17 |
| Kilos | Maaz, kodez .blog is <reply> http://kodexz.blogspot.com/ | 19:17 |
| Maaz | Kilos: One learns a new thing every day | 19:17 |
| kbmonkey | cool kodez checking it out :) | 19:17 |
| Kilos | grr | 19:18 |
| kbmonkey | woof | 19:18 |
| Kilos | Maaz, kodez.blog | 19:19 |
| Maaz | http://kodexz.blogspot.com/ | 19:19 |
| Waceman | nice man - when's the next update? kodez | 19:20 |
| kodez | kilos, i wish to learn to create my own bot. maybe she will be Maaz girlfriend, lol | 19:20 |
| Kilos | kodez, get an ibid | 19:20 |
| Kilos | lotsa work setting up i think | 19:21 |
| kodez | kilos, what's an ibid? | 19:21 |
| Kilos | its the software for a bot | 19:21 |
| Kilos | program | 19:22 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get install ibid | 19:22 |
| Kilos | Ibid is a multi-protocol, general purpose, instant messaging chat bot written | 19:22 |
| Kilos | in Python. It aims for a naturalistic interface rather than strict-syntax | 19:23 |
| Kilos | commands. | 19:23 |
| kbmonkey | Kilos now you taught _me_ something! | 19:23 |
| Waceman | who's the bot in this channel? | 19:23 |
| Kilos | yay | 19:23 |
| Kilos | maaz | 19:23 |
| kbmonkey | Maaz is our bot | 19:23 |
| kbmonkey | Maaz tea please | 19:23 |
| Maaz | Everybody here drinks coffee or goes thirsty | 19:23 |
| Kilos | Maaz, are you female | 19:23 |
| Maaz | Come on, be realistic. I'm a Bot | 19:23 |
| Waceman | lol, I had an annoying conversation with Maaz | 19:23 |
| kodez | thanks, i will google it. i will write something about it | 19:23 |
| Waceman | we were definitely not on the same page! | 19:23 |
| Waceman | lol | 19:23 |
| Kilos | you need a stable internet connection too i think | 19:24 |
| Kilos | i also chatted to maaz when i first came here | 19:24 |
| Kilos | Maaz, are you male | 19:24 |
| Maaz | No. Us Bots are above that human failing | 19:24 |
| Kilos | maaz is my clever bot buddy | 19:25 |
| kbmonkey | kodez you do python then? | 19:25 |
| kbmonkey | I been learning some lately | 19:25 |
| octoquad | Maaz, what is 1 + 1? | 19:26 |
| Maaz | octoquad: I'm afraid I have no idea | 19:26 |
| Kilos | Maaz, add 1+1 | 19:27 |
| Maaz | Kilos: What? | 19:27 |
| Kilos | twit bot | 19:27 |
| Kilos | Maaz, add 1 and 1 | 19:27 |
| Maaz | Kilos: What? | 19:27 |
| Kilos | grrr | 19:27 |
| octoquad | lol | 19:27 |
| Kilos | Maaz, add 1 + 1 | 19:27 |
| Maaz | Kilos: What? | 19:27 |
| octoquad | Maaz, sum 1 + 1 | 19:27 |
| Maaz | octoquad: Huh? | 19:27 |
| octoquad | Maaz, you are awesome! | 19:28 |
| Maaz | octoquad: I already know stuff about you | 19:28 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:28 |
| octoquad | Maaz, like...? | 19:28 |
| Maaz | octoquad: Huh? | 19:28 |
| octoquad | hehe | 19:28 |
| Kilos | i spent lotsa time with him in the beginning thinking it was someone trying to be funny | 19:29 |
| kbmonkey | ha ha | 19:29 |
| octoquad | lol | 19:29 |
| kbmonkey | wrote a mxit bot long ago, acted like a private chatroom for mates | 19:29 |
| Kilos | the guys must have hosed themselves at mthe fool n00b | 19:29 |
| kbmonkey | also could play word games, fun times | 19:29 |
| Kilos | kbmonkey, | 19:30 |
| Kilos | think | 19:30 |
| kbmonkey | thunk? | 19:30 |
| Kilos | what if Waceman takes that old driver and opens it to see all the insides and does the same with a later driver | 19:31 |
| Kilos | will one then be able to fix the driver | 19:31 |
| kbmonkey | he's using the proprietary driver, which means the source code is not open | 19:32 |
| kbmonkey | so no he cant :( | 19:32 |
| Kilos | or there must be a tool available to convert .run to .deb | 19:32 |
| kbmonkey | that is why proprietary drivers are bad. otherwise somebody would have fixed it long ago | 19:32 |
| Kilos | as alien does for rpm and tar.zip to .deb | 19:32 |
| kbmonkey | i think the .run is it's own kind of setup | 19:33 |
| kbmonkey | nothing that we can convert | 19:33 |
| Kilos | Waceman, | 19:33 |
| Kilos | if you near to someone with lotsa linux distros | 19:33 |
| Kilos | try redhat or mint or one of the others to see if they get the card going then use alien to convert that driver to .deb | 19:34 |
| octoquad | what card is it? | 19:34 |
| Kilos | there must be a way | 19:34 |
| Kilos | old nvidia | 19:34 |
| Kilos | v10\ | 19:35 |
| Kilos | mine is v5 | 19:35 |
| octoquad | has he tried downloading a the drier directly from the nvidia site? | 19:35 |
| Kilos | something with a 10 anyway | 19:35 |
| Kilos | yes thats a .run file and wont work | 19:35 |
| Kilos | he has been trying for a week now | 19:36 |
| octoquad | define wont work.... | 19:36 |
| octoquad | not installing properly, does install properly but can't be used etc... | 19:36 |
| Kilos | so he must stick to nouveau drivers then | 19:36 |
| octoquad | rb | 19:37 |
| Kilos | ya | 19:37 |
| octoquad | i mean brb | 19:37 |
| Kilos | installed but not activated | 19:37 |
| octoquad | os/distro | 19:37 |
| octoquad | ? | 19:37 |
| Kilos | yeah one of the other linux systems | 19:39 |
| Kilos | but if that card worked with karmic then maybe just to modify a karmic driver to work in lucid | 19:40 |
| kbmonkey | eish that's getting into some heavy stuff | 19:42 |
| Kilos | Waceman, ibid is in synaptic if you wanna read up on it | 19:42 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:42 |
| Kilos | yeah will teach wace lekker | 19:43 |
| Kilos | then he can be the driver guy here | 19:43 |
| kbmonkey | wasn't it kodez asking about the bot? | 19:43 |
| Kilos | i dunno | 19:43 |
| Kilos | someone | 19:43 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:43 |
| Kilos | head no clever today again | 19:43 |
| kbmonkey | i properly thunk no can | 19:44 |
| Kilos | thats why i say one of the other distros might have one and alien is in synaptic | 19:46 |
| kbmonkey | does mint have driver | 19:47 |
| Kilos | his prob is getting other linux os's to try | 19:48 |
| Kilos | one musta done something | 19:48 |
| Kilos | suse rehad mint and how many more | 19:49 |
| Kilos | where is Waceman ? | 19:49 |
| Kilos | Waceman, cooooweeeee | 19:49 |
| Kilos | oh my fell asleep | 19:49 |
| kbmonkey | indeed | 19:50 |
| Kilos | Waceman, ping | 19:50 |
| Kilos | thats why i like xchat if you pm someone you can ping with a button | 19:51 |
| Kilos | some ctcp or something ping | 19:51 |
| kbmonkey | you're crazy Kilos | 19:52 |
| kbmonkey | :D | 19:52 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:52 |
| Kilos | why | 19:52 |
| kbmonkey | dunno, takes one to know one I guess! | 19:52 |
| Kilos | ha ha ha | 19:52 |
| Kilos | did you see ping | 19:53 |
| Kilos | * Ping reply from kbmonkey: 1.58 second(s) | 19:53 |
| kbmonkey | 1.58 seconds | 19:54 |
| Kilos | how did you ping | 19:54 |
| kbmonkey | i write /ping kilos | 19:54 |
| Kilos | see ctcp ping | 19:54 |
| Kilos | oh /ping | 19:54 |
| Kilos | say you sorry, i not crazy | 19:55 |
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn | 19:55 |
| nlsthzn | :) | 19:55 |
| nlsthzn | Hey kbmonkey , Li | 19:55 |
| nlsthzn | Hey kbmonkey , Kilos | 19:55 |
| nlsthzn | lol | 19:55 |
| kbmonkey | nlsthzn o/ | 19:55 |
| Kilos | you well neelsie | 19:56 |
| nlsthzn | Hehe | 19:56 |
| nlsthzn | Always good thanks | 19:56 |
| Kilos | good | 19:56 |
| Kilos | dunno how long you been lurking , but you couldnt resist hey | 19:57 |
| * nlsthzn is pondering a blog again... but this time doing it the hard way (setting it up on a server etc. for the learning experience) | 19:57 | |
| kbmonkey | man, where else could you install a music player with less than 400kb :] | 19:57 |
| Kilos | on a cell | 19:58 |
| kbmonkey | not event! | 19:58 |
| kbmonkey | even* | 19:58 |
| Kilos | wow | 19:58 |
| kbmonkey | too much python :p ha ha | 19:58 |
| * nlsthzn doesn't care about the size of the player... only the quality of the music | 19:58 | |
| Kilos | lol | 19:58 |
| kbmonkey | ha ha | 19:58 |
| * Kilos likes vlc | 19:58 | |
| Kilos | for all media | 19:58 |
| * nlsthzn will rather not say, don't want the mono bashing to start again :p | 19:59 | |
| Kilos | even works on winsucks | 19:59 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:59 |
| * kbmonkey wants a biscuit | 20:00 | |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 20:00 |
| Kilos | we been too busy | 20:00 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 20:00 | |
| Kilos | no wonder i spitting cotton wool | 20:00 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 20:04 |
| Kilos | Maaz, dankie | 20:04 |
| Maaz | Groot plesier Kilos my vriend | 20:04 |
| kbmonkey | i feel too tired to stare at a screen | 20:05 |
| Kilos | go sleep man | 20:06 |
| kbmonkey | good idea matey | 20:11 |
| kbmonkey | I'll catch you'all soon | 20:11 |
| * nlsthzn will have some tea now... | 20:12 | |
| nlsthzn | brb | 20:12 |
| Kilos | sleep tight kbmonkey | 20:12 |
| kbmonkey | same that side Kilos, nlsthzn, sweet dreams of error free days! | 20:14 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight. see yas morrow | 20:33 |
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