/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/10/29/#ubuntu-za.txt

magespawnhowdy all07:08
Kilosmorning all07:19
KilosMaaz, coffee on07:19
* Maaz washes some mugs07:19
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!07:23
KilosMaaz, ty buddy07:29
MaazDont get familiar now Kilos07:29
kbmonkeygah, been trying to get online for an hour :p damn skyrove, what a load of horseradish07:37
Kiloshi kbmonkey had similar hassles with voda after last nights storm07:38
kbmonkeyhi Kilos 07:38
Kilosmailed you07:38
kbmonkeywell I don't see why as their hotspot runs off dsl in the background. 07:39
Kilospc probs07:39
kbmonkeytheir portal page has some strange javascript redirects and it's just really flakey :D07:39
kbmonkeyyes I saw you emailed me, ill check it out!07:39
Kilosthier pcs and servers or whatever they use arent linux07:39
Kilosyou can download those mags if i remember right07:40
Kilostheir07:40
kbmonkeyyes I have a collection of the mags already, got the special python issues too07:40
Kilosah its nuvolari 's buddies07:40
Kilosah clever lad07:40
kbmonkeywow I am so glad my text mail works, this will help a lot!07:41
Kilosexplain the text mail thing07:41
Kilosdo you still use your old email providers07:42
Kiloshi zeref bakuman 07:43
magespawngone again07:53
magespawnhi Kilos07:53
Kiloshi magespawn whats gone07:53
Kilosoh him07:53
Kiloslol07:53
Kiloshis wireless seems worse than broadband07:53
magespawnbit weird 07:54
magespawni have not had a problem with skyrove07:54
Kiloshows things going by you lad?07:54
Kiloswhat is skyrove07:54
Kiloskbmonkey also is having probs with them today07:55
magespawnwifi hotspot provider07:55
magespawngood have time today to sort out the mythbuntu sound07:56
Kiloshow far can one receive a signal from these wireless goodies07:56
Kilosi tried a search with my cell but it doesnt seem to see any07:57
Kilosdunno if you have to enter the address first or what07:57
Kiloskbmonkey, wb07:59
Kilosmagespawn, is also having skyrove probs08:00
magespawnno if you are within range then you should see them08:00
magespawni have not had a problem with skyrove08:00
magespawnkilos ^^^^08:00
magespawnit is wifi so depends on the equipment typically only within the establishment08:01
kbmonkeynuvolari, use ^space in alpine to skip between words ;)08:02
kbmonkeyI have strong skyrove signal and their portal page always loads, but mostly it loads to a point then stops. 08:03
kbmonkeysome really flaky system they run ;P08:03
Kiloskbmonkey> gah, been trying to get online for an hour :p damn skyrove, what a load of horseradish08:03
kbmonkey^^ exactly08:03
magespawnthat might be a dsl problem08:03
Kiloslol08:04
Kiloslife in the IT world08:04
kbmonkeyit worries me that the network isn't secured08:04
magespawnthat is a big problem means all passwords are sent in the clear08:05
magespawnfiresheep08:05
magespawnfirefox add on that allows you to sniff passwords and usernames over wireless networks from anyone connected to that hotspot08:06
Kiloseish thats not clever in todays world08:07
magespawnyup there are all sorts of programs but that one allows any one hacker or not to do it08:08
kbmonkeylike wireshark08:08
kbmonkeyjust set promiscous mode on and see what's flying through the air. scary stuff08:09
Kilosis there no way of getting secured at least from your end08:10
Kilosoh08:10
Kiloswait08:10
kbmonkeydepends, gmail uses ssl so that is secure08:10
kbmonkeybut irc for example, is not.08:10
Kilosi saw in a linuxtips mail that you can block you pc from being pinged to stop that08:10
Kiloswill that work08:11
kbmonkeythat will only hide your presence, security through obscurity08:11
Kilosi see if i still got that mail08:11
tumbleweedanything that's not encrypted can be sniffed08:11
* kbmonkey sniffs08:11
Kilosoh my08:11
kbmonkeysmells like rain08:11
Kilosmorning tumbleweed 08:12
magespawnmorning tumbleweed 08:12
tumbleweedanything that's encrypted can possibly be intercepted (although a security-concious user would notice) by an active attacker who man-in-the-middle attacks the user08:12
* tumbleweed waves08:12
magespawnyup and when on unencrypted wireless the password and user name are sent unencrypted 08:13
Kiloswhew dicey08:15
tumbleweedmagespawn: not entirely sure what you maen by that. what username and password?08:16
tumbleweedunencrypted wifi is just a particularly easy medium to sniff in, but the same problems exist no matter how you are connected to the internet08:16
magespawnwhen on wifi logging into say facebook - that user name and password08:19
magespawnaye tumbleweed.08:21
tumbleweedfacebook's login page itself uses SSL, but once you're logged in, you don't use SSL any more, so your cookie can be sniffed and someone can impersonate you08:22
tumbleweedbut your password itself isn't exposed08:22
magespawnthey guy who made firesheep was particularly concerned about public wifi though08:23
kbmonkeyssl also means its encrypted between server and client?08:23
magespawnand if you are using the https setting?08:23
kbmonkeythe issue is that many sites do not use ssl/https08:23
tumbleweedmagespawn: that would help a lot :)08:23
magespawnthats what i set up and lost the use of a whole lot of face book apps lol including the one from nashua to over tech advice to people08:25
magespawntake a look here www.takethislollipop.com next time your are logged into facebook08:26
magespawnscared the daylights out of my wife08:26
magespawnthen you might just tighten up the security08:26
magespawnthis is cool http://mybroadband.co.za/news/cellular/37130-quiet-cellular-antenna-technology-for-ska.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter08:27
Kilosmagespawn, is it text and can i wget it08:35
magespawnnot sure08:36
magespawnhold on08:36
Kilosty08:36
Kilosantennae info i like08:37
Kilosused to build antennae for ham frequencies back in the day08:37
magespawnhere is the link on codepad08:39
magespawnhttp://codepad.org/J0o1D9PI08:39
Kilosty08:41
Kiloswow one second08:41
Kiloshiya nlsthzn 08:44
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za08:44
Kiloshehe08:44
Kiloskbmonkey, wb08:44
nlsthznGood morning Uncle Kilos :)08:44
kbmonkeythx Kilos :)08:45
magespawnKilos did you get it?09:17
Kilosyes ty magespawn but will read when offline otherwise it also goes for data for some unknown reason09:18
Kilosdunno about the codepad way but html ones always go to the site for something09:19
magespawnmaintaining connection and the adverts on the page do not help at all09:19
Kilosso when offline i read them and copy paste to a file then delete the html link09:20
magespawnback again not sure what happened there09:41
Kilosits all over09:43
Kiloseven Vince-0 went and came09:43
Vince-0I was offline since last night - just woke up!09:43
Kilosoh my goodness sorry Vince-0 morning09:44
Kiloslol @ kbmonkey 09:45
Kilosover 1000 ks09:45
Vince-0just got battlefield3 so 3am vibes - this game is the best10:03
Kiloson ubuntu?10:03
Vince-0negative - win710:03
Kilosgrrrr10:03
Kiloshehe10:04
Kilosimo thats all windows is good for10:04
Vince-0ur a militant activist!10:04
Kiloslol10:04
Vince-0true, but it runs virtualbox for linux/bsd tests10:04
Kilosused to love playing war games10:04
Vince-0actually, ubuntu media pc is on tv - runs m0n0wall VM for traffic shaping10:05
Kiloson tv where?10:05
Kiloslearned something new today10:07
Kilossome usb ports on the same usb card are faster than the rest10:07
magespawnusb 2 and such has backwards compatibility10:11
magespawnjust fired up a Pentium-s 133mhz10:12
Kiloshi Waceman 10:12
magespawnits alive *creepy horror type voice10:13
Kiloswhats a pentium s magespawn  where it fits in the speed cue10:13
Kiloslol10:13
magespawnvery slow think 10-15 years ago10:13
magespawnmost phone laugh at this pc10:14
Kilosbefore pentium 1 and 210:14
magespawnthink so 10:14
magespawnbrb10:14
WacemanHowdy Kilos10:15
Vince-0tv in livingroom10:16
WacemanKilos: turns out after ubuntu 9 doens't support Legacy nVidia...10:16
Wacemanbut I wanted to ask the kbmoney if he could think of naything else10:17
Kilosaw thats not lekker10:17
Kiloshe was here just now10:17
magespawnkilos was launched in 199510:18
Kilosaha10:18
magespawnuses a serial ball mouse10:18
Kilossimilar to the old 486 with 40m cpu and 40m ram10:18
Kilosyeah i had that10:18
Kiloswas my first prob with ubuntu getting the mouse to work10:19
Kilosand no usb ports10:19
magespawnafter that if your friends had a 486 you where king of the hill with this baby10:19
Kilosya ha ha ha10:19
Kilosbut will work as a server10:19
Kilosand play dos games10:20
magespawnyup will be fun to see what i can do with it10:20
magespawnstill needs mouse drivers lol10:21
Kilosasked my boet to leave me his i5 lappy in his will10:21
Kiloshe just laughed. his 7 years younger10:22
Kilosthere was a big job making mouse work10:22
Kilostook weeks10:22
Kiloson ubuntu 8.1010:22
Kiloshad many pages of written instructions10:24
Kiloshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto10:24
magespawnthis is for those with uncapped connections http://planefinder.net/10:27
magespawnshow a real time map with commercial planes10:27
magespawnty Kilos10:27
Kiloshad to use sudo nano commands10:28
Kiloswas a b ig job for a noob10:28
magespawngood way to learn though10:31
magespawnit does not even have a network connection10:32
Kilosya10:32
Kilosif you dont forget10:32
magespawni will have to dig out a network card10:32
Kiloslee sharp on the lists just said to me get a usb mouse10:32
magespawnno usb ports10:33
Kilosya me too10:33
Kilosonly after i got the mouse working did i eventually get a usb card to plug in10:34
Kiloshere i find an old command i wrote down for sound i think10:34
Kilossudo modprobe snd-sb (tab,tab  to list more)10:35
Kiloshehe10:35
magespawnare you still using the machine10:38
Kilosyeah inna storeroom at the back10:38
Kilosan upgraded 386 as well10:39
Kilosnot using sorry10:39
Kilosstill have10:39
Kilosfeeding the rats now10:39
Kiloshehe magespawn found some pages of serial mouse commands10:48
magespawnalso have pentium -mmx running at 200mhz10:56
magespawnbrb11:00
Kilosnagedid you win with the seriel mouse11:54
Kiloseish11:54
Kilosmagespawn, 11:54
bakumantempa vs tp-link gigabit swithces, R225 8-port tempa, R329 8-port tp-link11:57
bakumanis tp-link n ekstra R100 werd?11:57
bakumanoops tenda12:12
nlsthzno/13:42
Kilosweirdest of weird15:06
Kilosi got to /var/cache/apt/archives/ and all thats there is a partial folder and a lock file15:07
Kilossupposed to be all archived packages15:07
Kilosi been robbed15:09
Kilosthank heavens for rsync to external15:11
Kilosbe back this evening15:28
kbmonkeyI see you got your site up Kilos 17:33
Kilosyeah kbmonkey nuvolari helped17:34
Kilosactually did it all17:35
Kiloshey 17:35
Kiloswait i catch you17:35
Wacemankbmonkey: how's it going?17:41
kbmonkeyhi Waceman 17:42
kbmonkeyI had wifi troubles this morn so gave up after an hour of trying :p17:42
Wacemanah man, annoying17:42
Wacemanthanks for showing me those debian articles.. they were very helpful...17:42
Wacemanbut alas, I don't think x server supports my card no more17:43
Wacemankbmonkey: can I tell you the steps I took? :)17:45
kbmonkeyI can't promise anything but let us try ;)17:47
Wacemanthanks :) OK I used the steps from this article: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDriversNvidiaWay17:47
Waceman1. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop17:48
Waceman2. export CC=gcc-4.4 (because the installer requires both nVidia kernel and linux kernel to have same gcc)17:48
Waceman3. sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-71.86.15-pkg1.run (says install script failed... do I want to continue.. select 'yes' and installs fine)17:48
Waceman4. modprobe nvidia (then went and inserted that line into file: /etc/init.d/rc.local so that it loads nVidia every reboot)17:48
Waceman5. create xorg.conf in /etc/X1117:48
WacemanSo I did all those steps, rebooted... screen flashes and get an error and have to boot into graphics safe mode17:49
WacemanThis is what the error looked like: 17:50
Waceman(EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so17:50
Waceman(EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (loader failed, 7)17:50
Waceman(EE) No drivers available17:50
kbmonkeysoz ran out of juice17:56
kbmonkeyinternet juice 17:57
Kilosnp17:57
kbmonkeydid you get that link Kilos 17:57
Kilosnossir17:57
kbmonkeyWaceman lets see17:58
kbmonkeydid you try any of the other methods in that page?17:59
WacemanI wrote it all out ;)17:59
Wacemanthanks  OK I used the steps from this article: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDriversNvidiaWay17:59
Waceman1. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop17:59
Waceman2. export CC=gcc-4.4 (because the installer requires both nVidia kernel and linux kernel to have same gcc)17:59
Waceman3. sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-71.86.15-pkg1.run (says install script failed... do I want to continue.. select 'yes' and installs fine)17:59
Waceman4. modprobe nvidia (then went and inserted that line into file: /etc/init.d/rc.local so that it loads nVidia every reboot)17:59
Waceman5. create xorg.conf in /etc/X11 19:48:3117:59
WacemanSo I did all those steps, rebooted... screen flashes and get an error and have to boot into graphics safe mode 19:49:4917:59
WacemanThis is what the error looked like: 17:59
Waceman(EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so17:59
Waceman(EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (loader failed, 7)17:59
Waceman(EE) No drivers available17:59
kbmonkeyno i mean, did you try the alternative drivers? like vesa, nv or nouveau?18:01
kbmonkeyhttp://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers18:02
kbmonkeysee that one, its a different page 18:02
kbmonkeyperhaps try one of the free drivers18:02
kbmonkeythat page also has other methods (apart from running .run )18:02
WacemanI think it automatically uses versa.. and the open gl screensavers work, but are quite slow.. but for now .. that's what I'm using18:03
kbmonkeyhmm yes then its not using your card fully18:03
Wacemanhow will I know what it's using?18:04
Wacemanthere's no xorg.conf in X11 now?18:04
WacemanI reformatted everything18:04
Wacemanwhat other methods besides .run? :)18:04
kbmonkeysection #3 troubleshooting #3 hardware acc doesnt work18:04
kbmonkeyhttp://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers18:04
kbmonkeythere are a couple methods there, try the free drivers18:05
kbmonkeycan you run glxinfo?18:05
Wacemanno, I have to install it again, what was that command?18:06
Wacemanoh wait it says :P18:06
kbmonkeypls use pastebin18:07
kbmonkeypastebin.com18:07
kbmonkeyfor anything more than 3 lines18:07
kodezhello everyone. how's your saturday18:07
Kiloshi kodez  ok here ty18:07
kbmonkeyhi kodez 18:07
kbmonkeyits halloween and all spooky outside18:08
Kiloslol18:08
Wacemanok, what do you want from the glxinfo output?18:08
kbmonkeydoes it error?18:08
kbmonkeypaste all of it 18:08
kbmonkeyin pastebin.com pls18:08
kodezhi kilos, how are you? i've been offline for quite sometime. what's?18:08
kodezwhere can i learn more about starting a linux user group?18:09
Kilosok here ty kodez , and you?18:09
Wacemanok, it's on my other pc... gonna try set up IRC on that... 18:09
kodezkilos, i am in good shape and spirit18:09
WacemanDo I use Jabber?18:09
Kilosgood18:09
kbmonkeyooh no thats fine Waceman 18:10
kbmonkeysimply if glxinfo errors then your drivers are not setup18:10
kbmonkeybut if it shows all kinds of info, then drivers are fine18:10
kbmonkeywhat monitor do you have? crt? lcd? 18:11
Wacemansays direct rendering: yes18:11
Wacemancrt18:11
kbmonkeycould be the default resolution is too high for your screen18:11
kbmonkeyiirc there lines we can put in xorg.conf to make it use a specific resolution18:11
kbmonkeyalso consider a faulty card :(18:12
Wacemaniirc - what?18:12
kbmonkeyif i remember correctly18:12
kbmonkey:D18:12
Wacemanthis is what tumbleweed found: The 71 and 96 series of proprietary nVidia drivers, as provided by the nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-glx packages in Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, are not compatible with the X.Org included in Ubuntu 8.10.18:13
Wacemanfrom https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseNotes18:13
=== kbmonkey_ is now known as kbmonkey
Wacemanthis is what tumbleweed found: The 71 and 96 series of proprietary nVidia drivers, as provided by the nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-glx packages in Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, are not compatible with the X.Org included in Ubuntu 8.10.18:18
Wacemanfrom https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseNotes18:18
Wacemanthis is what tumbleweed found: The 71 and 96 series of proprietary nVidia drivers, as provided by the nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-glx packages in Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, are not compatible with the X.Org included in Ubuntu 8.10.18:18
Wacemanfrom https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseNotes18:18
Kiloskbmonkey_, wb thats really a bad connection hey18:18
Wacemanlol18:18
kbmonkeyran out of credit18:18
Kiloseish18:19
kbmonkeythx :)18:19
Kiloskodez died  same time18:19
kbmonkeyoh okay Waceman I see18:19
kbmonkeythats a tricky one, we need expert help here18:19
Wacemanand who's that expert? ;)18:19
kbmonkeytry the #ubuntu support channel?18:19
Wacemanok18:20
kbmonkeyIm by no means an nvidia expert, I got mine working by accident after many days of struggling :P18:20
kbmonkeyI mean, if the drivers are not compatible with xorg, then what..18:20
Wacemanwell, I reckon I just leave it... 18:20
kbmonkeytry the nouveau drivers18:21
kbmonkeytheyre free ones, not from nvidia18:21
Wacemanhow can I see which one's I'm currently using?18:21
Kiloskodez, wb18:21
kbmonkeyI'm not too sure, there is a way, the wiki may say?18:21
kbmonkeyits a _lot_ of reading, but well detailed18:21
kodezkilos, thanks. i'm using my laptop and it switches itself off if the fan is not working18:22
kbmonkeydoesnt glxinfo tell the version driver?18:22
kbmonkeykodez someone told me other day the same problem18:22
kbmonkeythey bought a laptop cooling stand, now it has now problem :D18:23
kbmonkeyno*18:23
kodezi don't have money at the moment to buy other stuff. i hope to buy another laptop as this one is already old18:24
kbmonkeyyou never know Waceman perhaps those alternative drivers work on the older cards!18:27
Wacemanyeah.. .can't find which one's I currently have18:27
Wacemancan't find it in glxinfo18:27
KilosWaceman, try letting a fan blow onto the lappy18:28
Wacemana fan? 18:29
Kiloseven put 2 rulers under lappy to lift it a bit so air can flow under it too18:29
Kiloseish sorry Waceman 18:29
Kiloswas meant for kodez18:29
Waceman:)18:29
Kilossorry18:29
Kiloskodez^^18:30
kbmonkeythats a good idea Kilos! elevate it and blow a desk fan underneath it18:30
Kilosyeah18:30
kodezno problem kilos18:30
Kilosi dunno where they get the horrest but thats where you wanna cool18:30
Kiloshottest18:31
kodezi just need to start generating an income in order to build my computer studio18:31
kbmonkeyis blerry horrest today! ;D18:31
Kiloslol18:36
Wacemanno one every responds to me in #ubuntu...18:40
Kilosyou have to just be patient Waceman 18:41
Kilossome times it takes hours18:41
KilosWaceman, try explain your prob nicely to them so they dont have to first ask questions18:56
Wacemanok18:56
Wacemanthanks18:57
kbmonkeysorry I dont have that experience to see the solution Waceman 18:59
kbmonkeybut try those other methods18:59
kbmonkeyjust in case18:59
Kiloswace and also bump them every hour or so by doing a /me then repeat you request19:00
* Kilos like this19:00
KilosWaceman, ^^19:01
Kilosi am sure they all wait for someone else to help first as well19:01
kodezi just started to blog today. i will be happy if some of you can visit my blog (kodexz.blogger.com) and let me know what you thing19:01
Kilosno other place is helpful like ubuntu-za19:02
Kilosas soon as i get data i will go look  kodez 19:02
kodezthing = think19:02
kodezthanks kilos19:02
Wacemankodez: page doens't load for me?19:03
Wacemanthanks Kilos19:03
Kilosyw19:03
Kilosthere must be someone else in the world that has had that problem19:04
kodezlet me check what's the problem. it was working well earlier19:04
Kilosyou cant be alone19:04
kbmonkeyhave you tried the ubuntuforums Waceman ?19:09
kbmonkeybound to be someone there who had the same problem19:09
WacemanI've searched them.. but at this stage I'm calling it ;p19:09
Wacemanfound on the forums people saying the driver isn't support any more19:10
kbmonkeythat's why you used an older one19:10
kbmonkeymaybe the debian forums19:10
octoquadhello hello :)19:11
kbmonkeyhi hi :)19:11
Kiloshiya octoquad 19:12
Kilosdoes anyone here have admin rights on ubuntu-za19:14
WacemanKilos: sudo ubuntu-za ;)19:15
Kiloslol19:15
Kilosin the channel19:15
octoquadKilos: for the site?19:15
Kilosyeah ubuntu-za.org19:16
Kilossomeone helped the fly with stuff there last week but i forget who19:16
kodezi am sorry to post a wrong link the correct one is http://kodexz.blogspot.com/19:17
KilosMaaz, kodez .blog is <reply> http://kodexz.blogspot.com/19:17
MaazKilos: One learns a new thing every day19:17
kbmonkeycool kodez checking it out :)19:17
Kilosgrr19:18
kbmonkeywoof19:18
KilosMaaz, kodez.blog19:19
Maazhttp://kodexz.blogspot.com/19:19
Wacemannice man - when's the next update? kodez19:20
kodezkilos, i wish to learn to create my own bot. maybe she will be Maaz girlfriend, lol19:20
Kiloskodez, get an ibid19:20
Kiloslotsa work setting up i think19:21
kodezkilos, what's an ibid?19:21
Kilosits the software for a bot19:21
Kilosprogram 19:22
Kilossudo apt-get install ibid19:22
KilosIbid is a multi-protocol, general purpose, instant messaging chat bot written19:22
Kilosin Python. It aims for a naturalistic interface rather than strict-syntax19:23
Kiloscommands.19:23
kbmonkeyKilos now you taught _me_ something!19:23
Wacemanwho's the bot in this channel?19:23
Kilosyay19:23
Kilosmaaz19:23
kbmonkeyMaaz is our bot19:23
kbmonkeyMaaz tea please19:23
MaazEverybody here drinks coffee or goes thirsty19:23
KilosMaaz, are you female19:23
MaazCome on, be realistic. I'm a Bot19:23
Wacemanlol, I had an annoying conversation with Maaz19:23
kodezthanks, i will google it. i will write something about it19:23
Wacemanwe were definitely not on the same page!19:23
Wacemanlol19:23
Kilosyou need a stable internet connection too i think19:24
Kilosi also chatted to maaz when i first came here19:24
KilosMaaz, are you male19:24
MaazNo. Us Bots are above that human failing19:24
Kilos  maaz is my clever bot buddy19:25
kbmonkeykodez you do python then?19:25
kbmonkeyI been learning some lately19:25
octoquadMaaz, what is 1 + 1?19:26
Maazoctoquad: I'm afraid I have no idea19:26
KilosMaaz, add 1+119:27
MaazKilos: What?19:27
Kilostwit bot19:27
KilosMaaz, add 1 and 119:27
MaazKilos: What?19:27
Kilosgrrr19:27
octoquadlol19:27
KilosMaaz, add 1 + 119:27
MaazKilos: What?19:27
octoquadMaaz, sum 1 + 119:27
Maazoctoquad: Huh?19:27
octoquadMaaz, you are awesome!19:28
Maazoctoquad: I already know stuff about you19:28
Kiloslol19:28
octoquadMaaz, like...?19:28
Maazoctoquad: Huh?19:28
octoquadhehe19:28
Kilosi spent lotsa time with him in the beginning thinking it was someone trying to be funny19:29
kbmonkeyha ha19:29
octoquadlol19:29
kbmonkeywrote a mxit bot long ago, acted like a private chatroom for mates19:29
Kilosthe guys must have hosed themselves at mthe fool n00b19:29
kbmonkeyalso could play word games, fun times19:29
Kiloskbmonkey, 19:30
Kilosthink19:30
kbmonkeythunk?19:30
Kiloswhat if Waceman takes that old driver and opens it to see all the insides and does the same with a later driver19:31
Kiloswill one then be able to fix the driver19:31
kbmonkeyhe's using the proprietary driver, which means the source code is not open19:32
kbmonkeyso no he cant :(19:32
Kilosor there must be a tool available to convert .run to .deb19:32
kbmonkeythat is why proprietary drivers are bad. otherwise somebody would have fixed it long ago19:32
Kilosas alien does for rpm and tar.zip to .deb19:32
kbmonkeyi think the .run is it's own kind of setup19:33
kbmonkeynothing that we can convert19:33
KilosWaceman, 19:33
Kilosif you near to someone with lotsa linux distros19:33
Kilostry redhat or mint or one of the others to see if they get the card going then use alien to convert that driver to .deb19:34
octoquadwhat card is it?19:34
Kilosthere must be a way19:34
Kilosold nvidia19:34
Kilosv10\19:35
Kilosmine is v519:35
octoquadhas he tried downloading a the drier directly from the nvidia site?19:35
Kilossomething with a 10 anyway19:35
Kilosyes thats a .run file and wont work19:35
Kiloshe has been trying for a week now19:36
octoquaddefine wont work....19:36
octoquadnot installing properly, does install properly but can't be used etc...19:36
Kilosso he must stick to nouveau drivers then19:36
octoquadrb19:37
Kilosya19:37
octoquadi mean brb19:37
Kilosinstalled but not activated19:37
octoquados/distro19:37
octoquad?19:37
Kilosyeah one of the other linux systems19:39
Kilosbut if that card worked with karmic then maybe just to modify a karmic driver to work in lucid19:40
kbmonkeyeish that's getting into some heavy stuff19:42
KilosWaceman, ibid is in synaptic if you wanna read up on it19:42
Kiloslol19:42
Kilosyeah will teach wace lekker19:43
Kilosthen he can be the driver guy here19:43
kbmonkeywasn't it kodez asking about the bot?19:43
Kilosi dunno19:43
Kilossomeone19:43
Kiloslol19:43
Kiloshead no clever today again19:43
kbmonkeyi properly thunk no can 19:44
Kilosthats why i say one of the other distros might have one and alien is in synaptic19:46
kbmonkeydoes mint have driver19:47
Kiloshis prob is getting other linux os's to try19:48
Kilosone musta done something 19:48
Kilossuse rehad mint and how many more19:49
Kiloswhere is Waceman ?19:49
KilosWaceman, cooooweeeee19:49
Kilosoh my fell asleep19:49
kbmonkeyindeed19:50
KilosWaceman, ping19:50
Kilosthats why i like xchat if you pm someone you can ping with a button19:51
Kilossome ctcp or something ping19:51
kbmonkeyyou're crazy Kilos 19:52
kbmonkey:D19:52
Kiloslol19:52
Kiloswhy19:52
kbmonkeydunno, takes one to know one I guess!19:52
Kilosha ha ha19:52
Kilosdid you see ping19:53
Kilos* Ping reply from kbmonkey: 1.58 second(s)19:53
kbmonkey1.58 seconds19:54
Kiloshow did you ping19:54
kbmonkeyi write /ping kilos19:54
Kilossee ctcp ping19:54
Kilosoh /ping19:54
Kilossay you sorry, i not crazy19:55
Kiloshi nlsthzn 19:55
nlsthzn:)19:55
nlsthznHey kbmonkey , Li19:55
nlsthznHey kbmonkey , Kilos 19:55
nlsthznlol19:55
kbmonkeynlsthzn o/19:55
Kilosyou well neelsie19:56
nlsthznHehe19:56
nlsthznAlways good thanks19:56
Kilosgood19:56
Kilosdunno how long you been lurking , but you couldnt resist hey19:57
* nlsthzn is pondering a blog again... but this time doing it the hard way (setting it up on a server etc. for the learning experience)19:57
kbmonkeyman, where else could you install a music player with less than 400kb :]19:57
Kiloson a cell19:58
kbmonkeynot event!19:58
kbmonkeyeven*19:58
Kiloswow19:58
kbmonkeytoo much python :p ha ha19:58
* nlsthzn doesn't care about the size of the player... only the quality of the music19:58
Kiloslol19:58
kbmonkeyha ha19:58
* Kilos likes vlc19:58
Kilosfor all media19:58
* nlsthzn will rather not say, don't want the mono bashing to start again :p19:59
Kiloseven works on winsucks19:59
Kiloslol19:59
* kbmonkey wants a biscuit20:00
KilosMaaz, coffee on20:00
Kiloswe been too busy20:00
* Maaz starts grinding coffee20:00
Kilosno wonder i spitting cotton wool20:00
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!20:04
KilosMaaz, dankie20:04
MaazGroot plesier Kilos my vriend20:04
kbmonkeyi feel too tired to stare at a screen20:05
Kilosgo sleep man20:06
kbmonkeygood idea matey20:11
kbmonkeyI'll catch you'all soon20:11
* nlsthzn will have some tea now...20:12
nlsthznbrb20:12
Kilossleep tight kbmonkey 20:12
kbmonkeysame that side Kilos, nlsthzn, sweet dreams of error free days!20:14
Kilosnight all. sleep tight. see yas morrow20:33
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