[00:00] <linux> testing for Webcamstudio
[00:00] <DpEpsilon> plummerb: so yes. I'll try it, thanks.
[00:00] <maxtmahem> MrBlue: so when you open the terminal you will be in your home directory you need to CD to wherver the file is at so... cd directory_of_file (terminal has very convient tab completion for this BTW).
[00:00] <maxtmahem> then to run your app you would do just ./the_name_of_the_executable
[00:00] <Vustom> How can I close conky? I started it from terminal and quit the terminal, now it wont close :c
[00:00] <plummerb> MrBlue What executables are you trying to run?
[00:01] <maxtmahem> ./ means to execute something in the current directory.
[00:01] <qin> Vustom: killall conky
[00:01] <linux> ctrl-alt-esc seems to get me out of a lot of jams
[00:01] <MrBlue> I am trying to run i386 and the x86_64 executables.
[00:02] <MrBlue> And its in a folder on the desktop.  How should the directory be entered in the terminal?
[00:03] <edbian> MrBlue: /home/<you>/Desktop/<program_name>   will run it
[00:03] <plummerb> qin Ever see Conky stay open after you logout?
[00:03] <Vustom> Thanks, and onto my next question, how can I make conky startup on login?
[00:03] <edbian> MrBlue: or, if you open a new terminal, ./Desktop/<file_name>
[00:05] <plummerb> Vustom What distro are you running?
[00:05] <dragan> #ubuntu-rs
[00:06] <MrBlue> ebdian: it says "No such file or directory".  I'm quite certain Im doing something wrong with the directory.
[00:06] <edbian> MrBlue: what is your username ?
[00:06] <Vustom> plummerb: Ubuntu 11.04, also, would creating this script work; #!/bin/bash  sleep 10 conky & and then add the file location to the startup application
[00:07] <linux> Wecamstudio IRC speech to text test
[00:07] <Pici> oh, finally
[00:07] <edbian> MrBlue: exactly was the command you made?
[00:07] <edbian> command you ran*
[00:07] <plummerb> Vustom I think that's how you do it in Ubuntu 11.10.  I had to do it differently since I'm running Lubuntu.
[00:08] <plummerb> Vustom but that should work for you.
[00:08] <MrBlue> edbian:  /home/MrBlue/Desktop/Warsow/warsow.i386
[00:08] <plummerb> Vustom Just remember to set the script file to executable.
[00:08] <Vustom> plummerb: Do I just right click and put in this; #!/bin/bash  sleep 10 conky & then save?
[00:08] <edbian> MrBlue: you must have made some typo (cause that will work).  It said no such file?
[00:08] <VCoolio> Vustom: make that: sleep 10 && conky &
[00:08] <bazhang> MrBlue, warsow is in the repos
[00:09] <VCoolio> Vustom: && makes conky run after the sleep command finished
[00:09] <Vustom> sleep 10 on line 1, then && conky & on line 2 right?
[00:09] <MrBlue> I realize that, but I believe it is outdated and I got the zip from the main website.
[00:09] <VCoolio> Vustom: no, one line
[00:09] <MrBlue> ebdian: I see no typo, I copied > pasted just as it appeared.
[00:10] <VCoolio> Vustom: the #!/bin/bash part on line 1
[00:10] <edbian> MrBlue: if you type /home/[tab][tab] (hit the tab key twice)    what do you get?
[00:10] <plummerb> edbian does he have to use sh ?
[00:10] <Cpt_Othello> hello
[00:10] <edbian> plummerb: I don't know, depends on the file.  Either way it should not say 'file not found'
[00:11] <vladsharp_> ubuntu install, alternative
[00:11] <vladsharp_> 11.10 - instead of a proper root directory
[00:11] <Vustom> Thanks :)
[00:11] <vladsharp_> i get /target/@ and /target/@home
[00:11] <MrBlue> A bunch of folders, and it appears MrBlue is all lower case.  I also see the desktop folder.
[00:11] <vladsharp_> and only *within* /target/@/ do you see bin, usr, var etc...
[00:12] <edbian> MrBlue: /home/mrblue/Desktop/Warsow/warsow.i386
[00:12] <Fudge> how can i change pulse dpendencies runlevel  scripts, so gdm speech-dispatcher speechd-up dont start until pulse has
[00:13] <Voziv_> Hello, when setting up a dns server in a chroot environment, is there a way to see why named doesn't want to launch?
[00:13] <MrBlue> Ebdian: still giving me the same error.
[00:14] <Cpt_Othello> I tried to install ubuntu server and when it booted up it says "Out of scan range | 46.2kHz / 86Hz". Open to PMs
[00:14] <edbian> MrBlue: you are making some error :(  If the file exists.  Use [tab] to help you
[00:14] <Cpt_Othello> Is there a way to get it to boot into a gui or cli at least?
[00:14] <MrBlue> Maybe I have one of the folders misspelled...
[00:15] <plummerb> Cpt_Othello  Ubuntu server doesn't come with a GUI.
[00:15] <strigoi66> Does anyone on this channel have experience with panda3d on maverick? If so my problem is i get error when trying to install panda3d-runtime (Requires installation of untrusted packages ) please help!
[00:15] <Cpt_Othello> plummerb: Is there a way where I can at least get to the CLI?
[00:16] <Cpt_Othello> plummerb: or a terminal of some sort?
[00:16] <plummerb> Cpt_Othello  If you wait a while it should display a login prompt.
[00:16] <MrBlue>  /home/mrblue/Desktop/Warsow/warsow.i386 this is what I am entering and it says no such file or directory... I just don't know.
[00:17] <strigoi66> sorry please disregard my post, found that there is a channel for panda3d!
[00:18] <Cpt_Othello> plummerb: Ok I'll wait, it's just that it's said out of range for a ever since it finished loading the BIOS
[00:20] <plummerb> Cpt_Othello  That almost sounds like your monitor is reporting that it can't display the signal comming from your video card....
[00:21] <MrBlue> "/home/mrblue/Desktop/Warsow/warsow.x86_64: cannot execute binary file"  Tried running the other executable and it gives me this vague error.
[00:21] <sebsebseb>  
[00:21] <sebsebseb>  
[00:21] <FloodBot1> sebsebseb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:22] <Cpt_Othello> plummerb: But it worked find when i had windows server on it so it should be able to display now right?
[00:22] <robinsch> hi
[00:22] <sebsebseb> robinsch: hi
[00:22] <robinsch> how do i mount iso files in ubuntu 11.10?
[00:22] <MikeW_> Hi, when installing Ubuntu with Wubi, will it run as fast as a regular Ubuntu install?  I am new to this idea, but a friend of mine who is not technically savvy would like to try Ubuntu so I figured Wubi would be good so she doesn't have to wipe Windows if she decides she wants to switch back to Windows.  Thanks.
[00:23] <robinsch> i tried many programs and all give me errors
[00:23] <sebsebseb> MikeW_: partitioned install is better in the long run, but Wubi should be ok for trying.
[00:23] <MikeW_> I see.
[00:23] <plummerb> Cpt_Othello  Do any characters show up when you type?
[00:23] <MikeW_> Will it be faster than running Ubuntu inside of VMware or Virtualbox?
[00:24] <matlock> so how do i configure the on screen notifications
[00:24] <matlock> !notifications
[00:24] <dardevelin> Mike_L_, hi, there one thing you should remember though, if she decided to whip windows, what will end up happening would be screwing with the MBR and brick the HDD
[00:24] <matlock> !osd
[00:24] <MikeW_> oh
[00:24] <dardevelin> so just remember if she decides to whip windows she will need to reinstall ubuntu
[00:24] <dardevelin> can't expand
[00:25] <MikeW_> I see.
[00:25] <matlock> should be runnin windows in a vhd anyway
[00:25] <dardevelin> while if she installs along side . Its possible to whip windows without reinstalling
[00:25] <dardevelin> it's
[00:25] <matlock> so how do i configure the on screen notifications
[00:25] <dardevelin> Ubuntu installer menu actually have an option ( install along side windows ) so should be really easy
[00:26] <matlock> dardevelin, and btw, it's kinda hard to brick an hdd
[00:26] <matlock> unless you drop it
[00:26] <matlock> shouldn't use that term
[00:26] <matlock> cause it's easily recoverable
[00:26] <dardevelin> btw if she is like a newb in general in computing even ubuntu might not be the choice, and be more like mint
[00:27] <MikeW_> No she's not a complete noob, but just not very technically savvy.
[00:27] <dardevelin> matlock, if you screw the master boot record the drive doesn't even get recognized by the computer
[00:27] <matlock> no
[00:27] <matlock> you're wrong
[00:27] <dardevelin> matlock, so its bricked
[00:27] <matlock> simply wrong
[00:27] <plummerb> Chill out nerds
[00:27] <matlock> if you screw with the mbr, it simply won't look to that drive to boot
[00:27] <matlock> it will give you an error about missing os
[00:27] <matlock> but it will still see the drive
[00:27] <matlock> you should really learn up on pc's before giving advice
[00:28] <plummerb> It's Friday for Pete's sake.
[00:28] <dardevelin> matlock, specially laptops hang on the bios if the mbr is screw
[00:28] <pooky> my libnotify is no longer populating .cache/notify-osd.log, any suggestions on fixing it?
[00:28] <matlock> i've zeroed drives
[00:28] <matlock> and had no problems
[00:28] <pooky> I still get notifications, and can even use notify-send
[00:28] <matlock> hey
[00:28] <matlock> pooky, i'm lookin to disable some of my notifications
[00:29] <matlock> any chance you can herp me
[00:29] <raggerzz> ive got a quick question guys, ive got a dazzle dvc 100 up and running with vlc, though i get a black and white picture (very odd...) and no audio (that was sort of expected). any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks!
[00:29] <pooky> matlock: I'm trying to do the opposite :P I actually want to get them all into conky
[00:29] <plummerb> raggerzz So what is your question?
[00:29] <pooky> matlock: have you googled it?
[00:29] <matlock> yes
[00:29] <matlock> i keep getting that damn ppa
[00:29] <raggerzz> How can i fix the black and white and no audio?
[00:30] <strigoi66> Anyone know how to bypass not being able to install software from untrusted source?
[00:30] <vladsharp_> ok, so it seems to be using btrfs subvolumes
[00:30] <sebsebseb> strigoi66: you get stuff from repos for security, if get outside repos might get something bad
[00:30] <plummerb> strigoi66   You add the untrusted sources to the software sources on your system.
[00:30] <dardevelin> stricb9384, it should ask if you still want to accept it
[00:30] <robinsch> Hi, I am using Ubuntu 11.10 and I am trying to mount a .iso image file. I have tried Gmount and Furius ISO mount with no luck. Can someone help me mount the iso file? Thanks.
[00:31] <pooky> matlock: http://www.killertechtips.com/2009/04/26/disable-notifications-in-ubuntu-904-jaunty-jackalope/
[00:31] <pooky> try that?
[00:31] <matlock> nice
[00:31] <matlock> thx
[00:31] <pooky> btw, I googled it >.>
[00:31] <raggerzz> plummerb, any ideas?
[00:31] <strigoi66> plummerb: I did try install through the software center added repository and still get error(cannot install untrusted software)
[00:32] <unam3> Hi, I got problem with my sound, I get no sound at all, Its a Realtek ALC269VB soundcard. And the funny part is when I run a sound file and during run sudo alsa force-reload in terminal it says it terminates that sound process, for a split second I hear sound again... any ideas ?
[00:32] <raggerzz> strigoi66, have you tried adding it via synaptic?
[00:32] <matlock> hmm. that's a full disable, but i guess it'll work
[00:32] <plummerb> raggerzz  What are you trying to do?
[00:32] <yeats> raggerzz: I would ask in #videolan
[00:32] <plummerb> strigoi66  What packages are you trying to install?
[00:32] <strigoi66> raggerzz: not yet i will try that and return if not able
[00:33] <raggerzz> plummerb, i would hope to fix the black and whit and no audio. yeats, yeah, im gonna try that next
[00:33] <strigoi66> plummerb: panda3d-runtime
[00:33] <robinsch> Hi, I am using Ubuntu 11.10 and I am trying to mount a .iso image file. I have tried Gmount and Furius ISO mount with no luck. Can someone help me mount the iso file? The error I get is: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock /dev/loop0 Thanks.
[00:33] <plummerb> strigoi66  What are the untrusted packages that it needs?
[00:34] <strigoi66> plummerb: panda3d-runtime is the hangup
[00:34] <robinsch> Hi, I need help mounting iso file
[00:34] <robinsch> Anyone can mount iso file?
[00:34] <robinsch> iso file mount
[00:34] <yeats> !repeat | robinsch
[00:34] <matlock> !iso
[00:34] <psycho_oreos> sudo mount -t iso9660 /path/to/some/file.iso /target/directory -o loop
[00:35] <robinsch> where do i mount for it to show up in Nautilus as mounted
[00:36] <Braden`> Hello
[00:36] <plummerb> strigoi66  You may just have to download and install it manually.
[00:36] <yeats> robinsch: once mounted, it will show up at the mount point ;-)
[00:37] <plummerb> strigoi66  Did you follow the instructions here:  http://www.panda3d.org/download.php?platform=ubuntu&version=1.0.3&runtime
[00:37] <psycho_oreos> maybe some /media directory but the directory inside /media are dynamically generated. whether will nautilus pick that up or not varies a lot. My bet is that it won't
[00:37] <Braden`> I did a distro upgrade, and now xwindows won't boot
[00:37] <raggerzz> hmmm...the guys over at #videolan arent exactly responding...
[00:37] <lotutu> Hello all. Why cannot I lock screen using ctrl-alt-l in ubuntu 11.10 when logging as root ?
[00:37] <MrBlue> Um.  My resolution is messed up.  How do I fix this?
[00:37] <yeats> raggerzz: you have to be patient when asking in IRC - most channels aren't as quick to respond
[00:37] <yeats> (as #ubuntu)
[00:38] <strigoi66> plummerb: That is what i thought, but tried to download source from site and get redirect to add ppa to repostitory. and yes i did follow instructions on page!
[00:38] <raggerzz> yeats, Ahh...okay thanks
[00:38] <Braden`> How do I boot into a command prompt only?
[00:38] <yeats> Braden`: try Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get to a terminal
[00:39] <robinsch> sudo mount -t iso9660 isofile.iso /media/isofile -o loop
[00:39] <robinsch> mount: mount point /media/isofile does not exist
[00:39] <robinsch> :(
[00:39] <matlock> robinsch, usually the method of manual mounting consists of creating the directory sudo mkdir /mount/directoryname     then mounting, then simply navigating to the mount directory
[00:39] <matlock> or /media/directoryname
[00:39] <yeats> robinsch: 'sudo mkdir /media/isofile'
[00:39] <matlock> yea
[00:39] <matlock> then mount it to there, then navigate there
[00:40] <matlock> and when you umount it, the folder will still be there
[00:40] <matlock> just empty
[00:40] <matlock> cause nothing's mounted there
[00:40] <robinsch> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
[00:40] <robinsch>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[00:40] <psycho_oreos> like I said, most directories inside /media are dynamically generated, they're not generated by you saying to mount this as that by hand, but by things like nautilus and probably autofs
[00:40] <robinsch>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[00:40] <robinsch>        dmesg | tail  or so
[00:40] <robinsch> :(
[00:40] <Braden`> Will try
[00:40] <FloodBot1> robinsch: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:40] <Braden`> Thanks
[00:40] <yeats> !pastebin | robinsch
[00:41] <yeats> robinsch: sounds like your ISO file is corrupted
[00:41] <lotutu> Braden`: to directly boot into a command prompt, open /etc/default/grub and edit GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT to "text" , then run update-grub
[00:41] <robinsch> it opens fine in archive manager
[00:41] <psycho_oreos> or it isn't actually an ISO　file
[00:41] <plummerb> strigoi66  Did the archive.panda3d.org sources get added to your Software Sources?
[00:42] <robinsch> it looks like iso file
[00:42] <yeats> robinsch: what is the output of 'file isofile.iso'?
[00:42] <robinsch> it has .iso
[00:42] <psycho_oreos> ^ (what yeats said)
[00:42] <strigoi66> plummerb: yes, and just got it to work through synaptic. Thanks to all for the guide in right direction hopefully i can be of some use to the channel one day. Again thanks to all
[00:42] <robinsch> isofile.iso: data
[00:43] <lotutu> How can I lock screen in ubuntu 11.10 ? ctrl-alt-l doesn't work when logging as root
[00:43] <yeats> robinsch: then psycho_oreos is right - it's not an ISO file
[00:43] <plummerb> Sweet!
[00:43] <robinsch> it mounts fine on windows
[00:44] <psycho_oreos> a proper ISO file should have the words ISO9660 format outputted by file.
[00:44] <psycho_oreos> robinsch, that could just be a BIN file
[00:44] <robinsch> can i mount bin file?
[00:44] <psycho_oreos> not using mount, you need something like cdemu
[00:44] <brin> Anyone know of a good zip file password cracker for ubuntu?
[00:45] <yeats> robinsch: file would've said this (or something like it) if it were an ISO file: # ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'Ubuntu 11.04 amd64             ' (bootable)
[00:45] <robinsch> mounting should be built-in ubuntu
[00:45] <robinsch> like on macs
[00:45] <yeats> robinsch: it is
[00:46] <robinsch> cdemu: command not found
[00:46] <psycho_oreos> mounting under linux doesn't support every known filesystem/format there, is. There is at least well over 20 different formats out there and there's not one OS that supports every single type
[00:46] <Braden`> After I get past grub, the screen goes black and nothing happens.  This used to happen with distro 11.04, but it would load xwin after some time.  Now I just get a black screen.  Even if I select recovery mode in grub I get the same thing.
[00:46] <psycho_oreos> you'll need to install cdemu
[00:46] <robinsch> how do i get it?
[00:46] <yeats> !nomodeset | Braden` - try this
[00:47] <psycho_oreos> apt-get?
[00:47] <Braden`> Thank you
[00:47] <robinsch> is it in software center?
[00:47] <psycho_oreos> it might be, google search for it
[00:47] <yeats> !info cdemu
[00:48] <matlock> yeats, by 'corrupted splash screen' that basically means not showing the ubuntu logo and showing something like random lines of color or garbled bs right?
[00:48] <yeats> matlock: yes
[00:48] <matlock> cool cause i kinda got that but it's not a huge issue
[00:48] <Mitchell> Hi.
[00:49] <s0nee> Mitchell: hello
[00:49] <Braden`> It looks like nomodeset is already part of the boot parms for the recovery option
[00:49] <robinsch> on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion it says I need bchunk
[00:50] <dunpeal> Hey. I followed the advice to white-list all icons for the systray:
[00:50] <Braden`> I removed vga=792 and I can see the console again
[00:50] <FreeRangeRadical> how do i make Tomboy start when i start my machine?
[00:50] <dunpeal> $ gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist #=> ['all']
[00:50] <dunpeal> and yet I don't get systray icons
[00:50] <dunpeal> what did I do wrong?
[00:50] <AgentC> would someone like to test my shoutmix chatbox on my website on www.mitlab.de ? chatbox is at botom of the startpage :) would like to read there some comments about the web-design :)
[00:50] <yeats> !autostart | FreeRangeRadical
[00:51] <yeats> !ot | AgentC
[00:51] <robinsch> should I try to convert it to proper iso file?
[00:51] <vacho> is there a terminal command to see network activity????
[00:52] <psusi> vacho, iptraf
[00:52] <FreeRangeRadical> ubottu: that applies to 11.10, also?
[00:52] <lufi> hey guys how can i connect to a new server in xchat?
[00:52] <yeats> vacho: netstat?
[00:53] <robinsch> please help with mounting .bin files
[00:53] <yeats> FreeRangeRadical: yes - search for startup applications in the Unity search bar
[00:53] <plummerb> robinsch  What are you trying to do with it?
[00:54] <robinsch> I am trying to use play-on-linux to install a game
[00:54] <FreeRangeRadical> yeats: yes. i was trying to figure out what command to put in to make it start. i had already found startup applications. sorry, should have stated that.
[00:54] <robinsch> it asks me to mount iso
[00:55] <yeats> FreeRangeRadical: try '/usr/bin/tomboy'
[00:55] <plummerb> robinsch  Why not just burn the bin to a disk and then use the disk?
[00:55] <zmbmartin> Anyone install kernel 3.1 would it help with my HP Envy 17 power consumption? My laptop is a power hog.
[00:55] <robinsch> can ubuntu burn dvd?
[00:55] <yeats> robinsch: yes
[00:56] <maxtmahem> zmbmartin: Have you tried powertop?
[00:56] <zmbmartin> maxtmahem: Yup
[00:57] <zmbmartin> maxtmahem: if I follow all suggestions still with email and web browsing my laptop is at around 48w
[00:57] <Braden`> What would be the first steps in diagnosing why xwin suddenly does not run after a distro upgrade?
[00:57] <alienatu> wait
[00:58] <alienatu> are you guys talking about jyllaby again?
[00:58] <alienatu> wrong room
[00:58] <alienatu> sorry
[00:58] <alienatu> :(
[00:58] <TheEvilPhoenix> fail
[00:58] <TheEvilPhoenix> :P
[00:58] <yeats> Braden`: what video card?
[00:58] <xieo> zmbmartin, how are you measuring the 48w again?
[00:59] <plummerb> robinsch  You can download a PlayOnLinux installer for Ubuntu...
[00:59] <zmbmartin> xieo: power statistics or something like that. I get about 1 hour of battery life.
[00:59] <PeterP> hello
[00:59] <xieo> righto, ill take a look again.. didnt realize it gave a power rating
[00:59] <robinsch> why is everything complicated on ubuntu
[00:59] <robinsch> just wanna mount a damn file
[01:00] <PeterP> can anyone help me with some powertop?
[01:00] <Braden`> nvidia
[01:00] <plummerb> robinsch  With great power comes great responsibility.
[01:00] <yeats> robinsch: you're dealing with proprietary software designed for Windows - that requires some hacking sometimes (and patience all the time)
[01:00] <TheEvilPhoenix> ^
[01:01] <plummerb> robinsch  And go yell at the guy that gave you a BIN instead of an ISO
[01:01] <Braden`> yeats:  nvidia
[01:01] <yeats> !nvidia | Braden` - seen this?
[01:02] <PeterP> I am trying to decrease my power usage with powertop, but cant see the Tunables screen. How do I get it? Pressing right arrow doesnt work
[01:02] <haylo-bot> i would like to copy open source game sauerbraten to dvd so i dont have to download it again when install ubuntu on my other computer, how can this be done?
[01:02] <xangua> !aptoncd | haylo-bot
[01:03] <PeterP> xangua: nice!
[01:03] <brilarks> Hi, quick question. Every time I use the software centre it closes after installing the app. Can I change it so that it stays open? and how?
[01:04] <Gentoo64> brilarks: i dont think thats a feature
[01:04] <brilarks> What do you mean?
[01:05] <brilarks> Is it supposed to close after each install?
[01:05] <Gentoo64> I don't think it's supposed to close
[01:05] <brilarks> Right
[01:05] <PeterP> brilarks: ditto, mine stays open
[01:05] <linux> Hello everyone!!! i am broadcasting with Linux and Webcamstudio, and have this very chatroom superimposed, if anyone wants to see it in action at blogtv.com/analyzingfunny powerful program
[01:05] <brilarks> Any idea how I fix it?
[01:05] <atannus> Hi guys
[01:06] <Braden`> yeats:  I haven't, no.  Let me read it
[01:06] <alexGlasgow> i can`t see a restart button on Ubuntu Unity, how can i restart machine ? :\
[01:06] <s0nee> brilarks: run software-center in terminal to see if it spits out any error messages
[01:06] <PeterP> anybody know anything about using Powertop please?
[01:07] <yeats> alexGlasgow: upper right - select Shut Down... and select Restart
[01:07] <s0nee> alexGlasgow: log out then restart, or run "sudo reboot"
[01:07] <xangua> alexGlasgow: clic on the power icon on top right corner
[01:07] <s0nee> PeterP: yes ?
[01:07] <atannus> I'm trying and failing to install ubuntu (9.10 on) on a Satellite A135. I'm pretty sure the video adapter is to blame. I've tried the "nomodeset" solution, with i915.modeset=0 xforcevesa. That causes the screen to get all broken up (but not blank as usual). Does anyone have any idea what I should try next? Is there an alternative to xforcevesa?
[01:07] <brilarks> Any idea what the software centre executable is called?
[01:07] <s0nee> brilarks: "software-center"
[01:07] <Gentoo64> brilarks: software-centre maybe
[01:08] <xangua> atannus: 9.10 us no longer supported ;)
[01:08] <PeterP> s0nee: hi, I can run it in terminal and see my power usage but cant get to Tunables to turn modules on/off?
[01:08] <alexGlasgow> s0nee, thankx guys
[01:08] <brilarks> nope
[01:08] <s0nee> alexGlasgow: ure welcome
[01:08] <Gentoo64> brilarks: protip: if you're not sure,  type the first few letters of what you think it might be, then hit tab a couple of times
[01:08] <linux> hehe sudo reboot
[01:09] <brilarks> thank
[01:10] <atannus> xangua, well, I said I'm trying 9.10 on, so that includes 10.04, 10.10, 11.04 and 11.10, all of which have the same issue.
[01:10] <atannus> If anyone has anything productive to say, please do so! I'm out of ideas.
[01:10] <xangua> tried already supported ubuntu versions atannus ¿ ;)
[01:10] <TheEvilPhoenix> xangua:  10.04 and later are supported :/
[01:10] <TheEvilPhoenix> ... for now
[01:11] <atannus> xangua  what?
[01:13] <brilarks> That's annoying. It didn't close that time. I try again from the menu instead.
[01:13] <Faunt> good evening, brothers
[01:13] <PeterP> brilarks: or just keep using it? lol
[01:13] <Faunt> could someone help me with a Cheese issue?
[01:14] <atannus> If I leave de CD to work, it will go past the "little human and keyboard" to the splash with ubuntu logo and the 5 little dots. They blink for a while, then the screen flashes and goes blank. If, at the "human and keyboard" I hit space, I get the menu. I followed all 3 solutions here (http://journalxtra.com/2010/07/ubuntu-fixing-the-blank-screen-on-installation-bug/) that is how I get the "broken but not blank" screen. Since that post is about a
[01:14] <atannus> notebook with graphics issue, and that *changes* the symptoms for me, I'm thinking Graphics Adapter... I don't know what other options I can try, though.
[01:15] <s0nee> PeterP: try maximize the terminal
[01:15] <yeats> !alternate | atannus - you could try this
[01:15] <atannus> I tried Desktop versions for 10.10 and 11.04, but thei fail as well...
[01:15] <johnjohn101> i wish on the unity bar when you click to open  window and then click on the icon again it would hide the window.  is this possible?
[01:16] <yeats> atannus: you tried the alternate CD for those versions?
[01:17] <Faunt> so, after upgrading to Oneiric, Cheese has been showing a black-and-white-ish image - whilst the image shows up normally when not on Cheese
[01:17] <atannus> yeats, I'd heard of them, but no. I'll try 11.04 now, I assume that's best for G. Adapter coverage. Do I assume right?
[01:17] <atannus> Should I try an older version?
[01:17] <Faunt> does anyone know what can be done?
[01:18] <yeats> atannus: I don't know about G. Adapter coverage, but if the computer is older, you might go with 10.04
[01:18] <brilarks> Ok my software centre seems to be behaving itself now. It's like whenever I go to the doctors I feel instantly better. Thanks for the advice though.
[01:19] <PeterP> s0nee: ooh, it didnt like that! It continued to work but at very short intervals and didnt display any interrupts/causes. i still couldnt see any other screen   :/
[01:19] <yeats> atannus: 11.10 requires a bit more video horsepower than previous releases to work well
[01:19] <atannus> yeats, I'm downloading 10.04, let's see where that takes me. Thanks.
[01:19] <yeats> atannus: hope it works for you
[01:20] <napalm541> Hey everyone
[01:20] <s0nee> PeterP: on my laptop i can  navigate to the tunables tab after increasing width of the terminal. is that the problem youre having ?
[01:22] <heoa> ls f1 f2  <--- how can I show headers?
[01:22] <heoa> err
[01:22] <MrBlue> Can anyone explain how a executable file I can quite clearly see in my folders cannot be executed in the terminal?  It gives an error "file or directory does not exist" when its right there.  Right click > Open does nothing...
[01:22] <FerchoLP> I have a fat32 partition which is being automounted when accesed with nautilus or thunar. It is NOT in fstab. How can I change options like encoding, umask ? In previous version it was near /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor but I cannot find it in Ubuntu 11.10
[01:22] <heoa> cat f1 f2  <---headers here?
[01:22] <heoa> i.e. the file name before catting it?
[01:22] <FerchoLP> If I add it to fstab, Nautilus mess up and shows two shortcuts to that partition
[01:23] <PeterP> s0nee: It doesnt appear to matter how wide it is, there is nothing to indicate a Tunables option. Widening the terminal causes powertop to report erratically for a minute or two tho
[01:23] <napalm54> Newbie Question:  With ubuntu 11.10 how can I easily add a desktop shortcut/icon from the unity search results?
[01:24] <yeats> heoa: 'for i in /dir/*; do echo $i; cat $i; done'
[01:24] <s0nee> PeterP: so you dont see any tunable options at all ?
[01:24] <xangua> napalm54: just drag it from the dash to the launcher
[01:24] <PeterP> s0nee: correct, no options of any sort visible!
[01:25] <napalm54> xangua: I would want it on the desktop, not on the launcher
[01:25] <napalm54> xangua: When I drag from the unity search to the desktop it just makes a link that says is unsafe to use
[01:26] <shafiq_> Can anyone help me or provide me with a tutorial that helps me to set up a multi-boot system?  Specifically, if possible, Ubuntu, Win7 and MacOS.
[01:26] <yeats> !dualboot | shafiq_
[01:26] <almoxarife> napalm54: even easier, open nautilus in /users/share/applications , then drag away to the desktop
[01:27] <almoxarife> napalm54: it does the first time, answer yes
[01:27] <PeterP> shafiq_: a little out of date but still usable http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony
[01:27] <shafiq_> yeats: will this work for a triboot system on a PC
[01:27] <shafiq_> PeterP: Will that work for a triboot system on a PC?
[01:28] <yeats> shafiq_: the method will be the same no matter how many you add
[01:28] <iceflatline> shafiq_: http://www.iceflatline.com/2009/09/how-to-dual-boot-windows-7-and-linux-using-bcdedit/
[01:29] <PeterP> shafiq_: I dont know anything about OSX but the partitioning stuff is relevant.
[01:29] <shafiq_> thank you everyone.  I'm much obliged.
[01:29] <urlin2u> shafiq_, apple is the out-lier I think your helpers are missing that point
[01:29] <PeterP> shafiq_: this one also helpful http://members.iinet.net/~herman546/index.html
[01:30] <kaffe_02> why cant I add jabber components in empathy?
[01:30] <napalm54> almoxarife: The first time, for the unsafe link message I was getting?  Anyway around that other than going into the Applications folder?
[01:30] <napalm54> almoxarife: Also thanks :)
[01:30] <PeterP> urlin2u: educate us! I'm only here for help...  :)
[01:30] <Braden`> yeats:  I am using virtualbox.  The driver is Virtualbox Graphics Adapter.  Shouldn't that work out of the box on a distro upgrade?
[01:31] <yeats> Braden`: not necessarily - I've seen it not work many times
[01:31] <t55e> I'm working through multiple boot issues after upgrading to 10.4 (boot failed to complete after fsck, Keyboard and Mouse Freeze on Lucid Lynx, Hangs on boot at "* Checking battery state...") for which I suspect this is due to moving a hard drive from a laptop to a desktop
[01:31] <shafiq_> urlin2u yeats iceflatline: well, this is the thing ----- i'm trying to figure out the order to install ----  was thinking Win7 first, then MacOS then Ubuntu (so it would use GRUB2 as the multi-bootloader).  Does that make sense?
[01:31] <t55e> instead of takling each issues as it arrises is there some underlying changes I should make due to the fact the drive is no longer in a laptop?
[01:31] <Braden`> yeats:  So I should re-install the virtualbox driver?
[01:31] <almoxarife> napalm54: if there was a question there I didn't get it
[01:32] <urlin2u> PeterP, I agree that windows and ubuntu are easy to dual boot but apple is a whole other thing, I have never used it but I don't recall seeing apple booted with grub, rather its bootloader booting the others although I could be wrong here.
[01:32] <DpEpsilon> oh, he's gone
[01:32] <yeats> Braden`: I would not assume that the driver is the problem (not knowing specifics, but the vbox driver is pretty reliable)
[01:33] <napalm54> almoxarife: You said the the: the first time yes.
[01:33] <napalm54> I thought you were referring to the unsafe link when dragging from the unity search
[01:33] <PeterP> s0nee: thx for trying so far, any other ideas?
[01:33] <iceflatline> shafiq_: Yes, it does and you could certainly do it that way. I prefer to retain the Win boot loader.
[01:33] <Braden`> yeats:  the error I get when starting xwindows is:   "Can't open display!"
[01:34] <almoxarife> Braden`: you need to insure your user name is in the 'virtualbox' group
[01:34] <s0nee> PeterP: sorry but no clue.
[01:34] <PeterP> urlin2u: gotcha. i wont be attempting it anyway
[01:34] <PeterP> s0nee: thx for help anyways
[01:34] <yeats> Braden`: have you been on VirtualBox this whole time? because that would probably mean you need to be in #vbox :-/
[01:35] <shafiq_> iceflatline: why is that?
[01:35] <Loptr> I know that i need to set TPR in a dns server to resolve a host to my ip and use it on irc. If the real static ip used in my router and i have just a local how should i set up the dns server?
[01:35] <yeats> Braden`: the issues in running on bare metal vs. virtualbox are very different
[01:35] <kaffe_02> How can I add xmpp components to my contacts in empathy?
[01:35] <urlin2u> PeterP, hehe me either shafiq_ I would look on line for definitive answers or go to the apple section of the Ubuntu Forums,
[01:35] <mint> Hi I'm on kubuntu 10.10. How can I do o have sound on my headst ?
[01:36] <mint> headset*
[01:36] <iceflatline> shafiq_: personal preference and I don't have to worry about reinstalling the win bootloader should GRUB overwrite.
[01:36] <xangua> kaffe_02: what do you mean¿
[01:37] <Gohalien> Got a little issue, I already have one wireless card on the computer, I added another one (usb one), installed already the drivers with ndiswrapper, when I do a -l it says: netmw225 : driver installed device (1286:1FAB) present ; Now I must add it as wlan1 since I already have wlan0, I do edit /etc/modules.conf and set the alias as wlan1, but when I do an "ifconfig wlan1 up" i get the error "device does not exist" =/ what I have t
[01:37] <Braden`> yeats:  It says it wants the virtualbox guest additions.  I will check on how to install those
[01:37] <kaffe_02> xangua: I can add user@domain.com but I need to add component.domain.com to my roster and when I add that contact they never show up in my roster
[01:38] <shafiq_> iceflatline:  someone told me that GRUB2 would not work and that GRUB would be necessary for triboot.  Do you know if that is correct?  Also, from my experience, Winboot loader always forced windows and never left options to boot to other OSs.  I must be wrong about this then, yes?
[01:41] <arand> shafiq_: I'm guessing GRUB2 would work better thatn grub-legacy.
[01:41] <iceflatline> I've booted multple OS with GRUB2 so I'm not aware of a problem with using it in that manner. WRT the win boot loader, it will not autodetect other OS, you have to manually edit its BCD store to add them.
[01:42] <iceflatline> Some folks find apps like EasyBCD easier to use.
[01:43] <shafiq_> iceflatline: thank you.
[01:43] <zykotick9> shafiq_, re:tribooting here is a screenshot from a couple months back of grub2 booting 9 OS (but they're all debians) http://imagebin.org/181329
[01:43] <shafiq_> arand: thank you.
[01:44] <iceflatline> shafiq_: My pleasure my friend. Let me know how you make out.
[01:45] <atannus> yeats, while I'm downloading, I've tried some different settings (as per that link I mentioned above), I was able to get to a prompt, ubuntu@ubuntu, before which there was a message about missing CPU security features. ("your cpu appears to be lacking expected security protections"). Does that say anything to you?
[01:45] <atannus> Or anyone else?
[01:45] <shafiq_> iceflatline:  thank you :)  my friend has been bragging about his mac for ages, so it's time to show him a PC running macos :D
[01:45] <shafiq_> zykotick9: thank you :)  Hopefully I will have no problem then :)
[01:46] <yeats> atannus: this thread will explain: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1413336
[01:46] <yeats> atannus: but it shouldn't be a huge worry IMHO
[01:47] <andy1> hello
[01:47] <andy1> harri
[01:47] <andy1> hey herri
[01:49] <Firefishe> How do I restore grub2 to my mbr after installing windows?  I'm using 11.10
[01:49] <zykotick9> !grub | Firefishe
[01:49] <atannus> yeats, I messed around with the bios, so I'm gonna reset it and see what happens! :)
[01:49] <atannus> yeats, frustrated dude here....
[01:50] <yeats> atannus: I think we've all been there ;-)
[01:51] <atannus> Ok, now there are only 4 orange dots blinking! hehehe...
[01:51]  * atannus hopes that means something.
[01:52] <atannus> got a prompt.
[01:52] <atannus> no "bad cpu" warning!
[01:52] <yeats> atannus: good
[01:52] <atannus> yeats, wanna type something? I'll proxy it! ;)
[01:55] <jigspan> which codecs need to install for playing mpeg avi format?
[01:56] <airwolf97> #irc.linuxchile.cl
[01:56] <zykotick9> jigspan, i'd start with ubuntu-restricted-extras and if that doesn't work w32codecs or w64codecs from medibuntu.  good luck.
[01:57] <netzsooc> guys after upgrading to oneiric in a 64 bits box my system wont start
[01:57] <airwolf97> jigspan , you can install mplayer
[01:57] <jigspan> thanks
[01:57] <netzsooc> it goes all the way untill where it was supposed to get lightdm working and then a white screen
[01:57] <netzsooc> and just that
[01:58] <shirokuro> a
[01:58] <jigspan> i am using 11.10 and banshee sometimes hangs
[01:59] <sarloth> can anyone tell me if "kernel.shmmax" in sysctl.conf has any affect on Video shared memory?
[01:59] <s0nee> netzsooc: can you switch to "ctrl alt f1" ?
[01:59] <netzsooc> s0nee I can't remember... let's assume I can, then what?
[02:00] <zykotick9> jigspan, that's what happens when you use Microsoft stuff ;)  (sorry if you don't get the mono reference)
[02:00] <Braden`> to mount a cdrom, I do:  mount /dev/cdrom    right?
[02:00] <R3db3ard> so how come, in blackbuntu (10.10) my macbook F-keys work perfectly, dimming the screen brightness, volume, etc.. but in regular ubuntu11.04 they don't work?
[02:00] <s0nee> netzsooc: is it during boot ? you completed the upgrade ?
[02:01] <jigspan> what do u mean by that?
[02:01] <zykotick9> jigspan, sorry - please ignore.   it's just a stab at mono - it was unhelpful, my bad
[02:02] <netzsooc> s0nee it was supposed, at least it came until the (restart your system) part and yes, well it boots
[02:02] <netzsooc> I mean it goes the grub
[02:02] <netzsooc> then the ubuntu splash screen
[02:02] <netzsooc> and then white
[02:02] <sarloth> zykotick9: banshee uses mono? (googling)
[02:03] <sarloth> zykotick9: wow.... you're right o.o
[02:03] <s0nee> netzsooc: seems like a X error. try switching to "ctrl alt f1" to fix from there
[02:03] <netzsooc> s0nee and what from there
[02:04] <atannus> What's the little program to create a bootable usb?
[02:04] <atannus> like unetbootin, but not that one.
[02:04] <s0nee> "sudo Xorg -configure" then check in the current directory if "xorg.conf.new" is generated
[02:04] <atannus> for linux
[02:04] <jigspan> 11.10 installed on entire hard disk during installation it asked to download codecs but i ignore now i have to install it manually which package to install?
[02:05] <s0nee> netzsooc: wait, if the screen is white then X started right ?
[02:05] <netzsooc> I assumed it
[02:05] <s0nee> netzsooc: then try "sudo pkill X"
[02:05] <zykotick9> jigspan, "ubuntu-restricted-extras" and if that doesn't work w32codecs or w64codecs from medibuntu.  good luck.
[02:05] <s0nee> netzsooc: startx again to check if it spits out any error msgs
[02:06] <emehrkay_> I switched out a broken nvida card and put in a working ati. now i cannot boot to graphics. I am in the config file editor and under Section 'Device' Driver is set to 'nvidia' what should I change that to
[02:06] <davidadsit> hey all. I am relatively new to ubuntu (from windows.) I have the VM running on my laptop and I ran the 11.10 update. it hung up completely in the "removing unused stuff" step. after waiting for a while, I tried the windows solution (hard reboot.) Now my VM doesn't boot. it gets to the pink splash screen, but doesn't display the login screen. can it be fixed or do I need to reinstall the VM?
[02:06] <s0nee> emehrkay_: try nouveau.
[02:07] <zykotick9> emehrkay_, start by moving the current xorg.conf to a new name like xorg.conf.nvidia and restart X to see what happens
[02:08] <emehrkay_> thanks, it looks like nouveau did the trick allowing me to boot into low graphics mode
[02:08] <zykotick9> s0nee, nouveau is for nvidia
[02:08] <emehrkay_> oh, strange that it worked
[02:08] <s0nee> zykotick9: sorry idk that. then whats the open driver for ati cards ?
[02:09] <jigspan> how to install w32 or w64 codecs?
[02:09] <jjgalvez__> how do I set up printer sharing in 11.10?
[02:09] <netzsooc> s0nee ok but as now I am with the debian partition I would have to reboot, or is there a way to check it from here?
[02:09] <zykotick9> s0nee, honestly that's a loaded question.  there technically is a free driver that requires some unfree fireware.  i don't touch ati so wouldn't know the specifics ;)
[02:09] <jjgalvez__> in cups it says its shared, but I can't print to it from my laptop
[02:09] <emehrkay_> oh, I just tried to run an update and my version isn't supported anymore and Im not sure which one this is. Is there a way to update to the latest via the desktop?
[02:10] <emehrkay_> zykotick9: on top of it, this card is a tv tuner card (I'm not expecting that to work though)
[02:10] <zykotick9> s0nee, <OT> nouveau was the suggestion from some spell checking program's suggestion for nvidia </OT>
[02:11]  * zykotick9 giggles
[02:11] <emehrkay_> nice, there was an "update ubuntu version" button. I love how easy this is
[02:11] <FerchoLP> Is it possible to change HAL policies? Say for example if you want to change automounted vfat partitions umask value
[02:12] <rodhash> Hey all.. Does anyone know if the mouse arc touch needs any software in ubuntu (with xfce) to work the 'middle click' where we need to tap twice?
[02:12] <s0nee> zykotick9: lol. then whats the suggestion for ati ?
[02:12] <zykotick9> FerchoLP, i believe that falls under udev (don't know the details/for sure)
[02:12] <s0nee> netzsooc: hmm no clue. maybe chroot ?
[02:12] <xuti> just upgraded my net connection this morning. ubuntu handles it very nice.
[02:13] <sarloth> s0nee: if you are looking for the open source drivers for ati on ubuntu, you can simply uninstall the proprietary drivers in jockey ("Additional Drivers") and they will automatically be re-enabled.
[02:13] <R3db3ard> how do i register?
[02:13] <R3db3ard> !register
[02:13] <s0nee> sarloth: hmmm then whats the name of the driver ? btw im not asking question :)
[02:14] <emehrkay_> thanks for the help guys
[02:14] <s0nee> emehrkay_: youre welcome
[02:14] <sarloth> s0nee: its nothing cool, it's xorg-video-ati
[02:15] <sarloth> s0nee: off the top of my head*
[02:16] <FerchoLP> zykotick9 yes, maybe changing or adding a file in  /lib/udev/rules.d/
[02:17] <zykotick9> FerchoLP, sorry, i don't know.  never played with it.  good luck.
[02:17] <FerchoLP> I'll google that path (/lib/udev/rules.d/) and see what comes out :)
[02:18] <atannus> yeats, neat text mode blue screen. fingers crossed.
[02:19] <rodhash> Guys.. Does anyone know if the mouse arc touch needs any software in ubuntu (with xfce) to work the 'middle click' where we need to tap twice?
[02:19] <keithclark> What is this zeitgeist-daemon?
[02:20] <atannus> yeats, it is complaining I don't have a CD-ROM in the driver.... that's not right.
[02:22] <dahlia> how do I add myself to another group? I dont see a UI for it and theres no /etc/groups file
[02:22] <jjgalvez__> nevermind it was my stupid router that had the setting all wrong so the printer could not be found
[02:22] <keithclark> I can't seem to get my system under control here.  Very high load numbers and the hard drive light will just not shut off.  Any ideas?
[02:23] <santosomar> hi
[02:23] <s0nee> keithclark: maybe top or ps then check the running processes ?
[02:24] <keithclark> If I kill zeitgeist-daemon my system runs fine
[02:24] <santosomar> anyone knows of a good channel to talk about video cards?
[02:24] <santosomar> or anyone is a video card expert here?
[02:24] <microsoft_> video cards...
[02:24] <microsoft_> tv card?
[02:24] <santosomar> video cards for gaming... like nvida vs amd ATI
[02:24] <santosomar> need some recommendations
[02:25] <sarloth> santosomar: ask away, people will answer if they can! :D
[02:25] <santosomar> lol ok
[02:25] <xangua> !ot | santosomar
[02:25] <s0nee> dahlia: its /etc/group but not groups ?
[02:25] <xangua> there is also ##hardware
[02:25]  * santosomar is looking for a good not-so-pricy video card for gaming
[02:25] <santosomar> i just want to spend $150-250
[02:26] <santosomar> for everything linux and winblows
[02:26] <microsoft_> richman
[02:26] <keithclark> s0nee, zeitgeist-daemon is defiantly the problem.
[02:27] <s0nee> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man1/zeitgeist-daemon.1.html try --quit option ?
[02:27] <sarloth> santosomar: sorry, assumed you had a support question... haha it's best to take that somewhere like ##hardware I guess. But you can newegg and do a price range search. then just look for something with onboard memory, opengl and directx support
[02:27] <rodhash> Guys.. has anyone here used the arc touch mouse?
[02:28] <santosomar> thanks sarloth
[02:28] <santosomar> that's why I was a little hessitant to ask here ;-)
[02:28] <Aoute> hello all
[02:29] <santosomar> don't get me wrong I am a hardcore ubuntu user... but trying to get something for my son....
[02:29] <santosomar> thanks again
[02:29] <sarloth> np :)
[02:30] <Aoute> could someone help me? I have iPhone 3GS and i upgrade my soft for iOs 5.0, my question is: someone know how i can upload music on this? I used banshee before, but now (after upgrade) my ubuntu cannot mount iphone, someone know what reason or what i should do? Please help me :P
[02:30] <xangua> Aoute: the reason is that you updated to ios5
[02:31] <xangua> Aoute: what ubuntu version do you use¿
[02:31] <Aoute> 11.10
[02:31] <TheEvilPhoenix> Aoute:  iOS5 doesnt work with Banshee yet, just to let you know.
[02:31] <Aoute> yea, i know now :P
[02:32] <xangua> Aoute: already tried to enable backport and proposed updates¿¿
[02:32] <Aoute> exist player where i can connect iphone?
[02:32] <xangua> Aoute: see if after doing it, there is a libmoviledevice update
[02:34] <Aoute> i dont see any updates
[02:34] <Aoute> only solitaire card games :f
[02:35] <Aoute> and new wallpapers for ubuntu
[02:35] <xangua> Aoute: already enabled backport and proposed updates and run apt-get update ¿
[02:35] <Aoute> i am updating now
[02:36] <Aoute> one request, please use english for dumb's, I am not expert in this language :P
[02:39] <Aoute> "unable to mount iPhone" blocking port (-15)
[02:43] <sarloth> Aoute:  did you recently upgrade iPhone os?
[02:44] <Aoute> sarloth: it was my first time, i have this phone two days. I updated this by itunes on my friend's pc
[02:45] <sarloth> Aoute: seems to be a common problem with the most recent version....
[02:46] <Aoute> i was thinking it would be better when i upgrade this os, now i am regret little
[02:46] <Technicus> Hello . . . I am having trouble with video drivers on a Ubuntu 11.04 install.  I am not sure where to start to correct this issue.  What should I do to beging troubleshooting the cause of the misconfiguration?
[02:46] <sarloth> Aoute: give me a couple of mins googling :D
[02:47] <sarloth> Technicus: what video card?
[02:47] <s0nee> Technicus: /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[02:47] <Aoute> when i had previous os, it was no problem to upload music by banshee or enything else, now this iphone cannot by mounted. I think i should wait for some update
[02:48] <pooky>  my notifyosd doesn't seem to be outputting to a file anymore, does anyone know how to restore that behavior?
[02:48] <Aoute> And i don't want to install/trying to install itunes by wine, this is evil :p
[02:48] <sarloth> Aoute: can you get the iPhone OS version?
[02:48] <Aoute> what about you asking? :p
[02:48] <Aoute> I upgrade this os by itunes
[02:49] <Aoute> its 5.0
[02:49] <Technicus> sarloth: s0nee: I do not know specifically the video card information, but it is an Intel, what is a proper command to querry the hardware.  /etc/X11/xorg.conf is empty.
[02:49] <FerchoLP> I'm trying to install mountmanager and it prompts me to instal "hal" . Would that affect in some way the way hardware is managed currently without that package installed?
[02:49] <sarloth> Technicus: lspci | grep VGA
[02:50] <qmanjr5> Is there a way to install Unity's 'maximize' feature in Unity-2D? By tthat I mean being able to drag a window to the side and have it fill have the screen
[02:51] <bastidrazor> qmanjr5, i thought it did that if you dragged it to the top
[02:51] <Technicus> sarloth: lspci | grep VGA = 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[02:51] <Aoute> damn, i used android before, everythink was perfect ;p
[02:52] <bastidrazor> qmanjr5, and now i try it.. i see it does not attempt to maximize when dragged to the top.
[02:52] <t55e> how do I downgrade from 10.04 to 9?
[02:52] <bastidrazor> qmanjr5, i would bet that is a compiz feature and not unity-2d
[02:52] <aeon-ltd> t55e: 9.xx is no longer supported, why would you want to?
[02:53] <bastidrazor> t55e, also, you don't downgrade in ubuntu.
[02:53] <Aoute> sarloth: i brb, have to relogin
[02:53] <s0nee> Technicus: run "sudo Xorg -configure" then check in the current dir for a file "xorg.conf.new"
[02:53] <sarloth> Aoute: try https://launchpad.net/~pmcenery/+archive/ppa/?field.series_filter=karmic
[02:53] <freshinstall> heyas
[02:53] <t55e> aeon-ltd: "Checking Battery State" ... hangs
[02:54] <aeon-ltd> t55e: ask the channel with more details about this problem
[02:54] <freshinstall> how do I add things to the unity Dash menu?  that is the thing that comes up when the win key is pressed
[02:55] <t55e> I'm working through multiple boot issues after upgrading to 10.4 (boot failed to complete after fsck, Keyboard and Mouse Freeze on Lucid Lynx, Hangs on boot at "* Checking battery state...") for which I suspect this is due to moving a hard drive from a laptop to a desktop. Instead of tackeling each issues as it arrises is there some underlying changes I should make due to the fact the drive is no longer in a laptop?
[02:55] <shadow98> hey guys my scheduled cron jobs will not run..nothing in /var/log/cron...i check for running cron and all shows its running
[02:56] <Technicus> s0nee: Fatal server error: Server is already active for display 0<
[02:56] <Technicus> Technicus: Looks like I need to kill X or something.
[02:56] <aeon-ltd> t55e: there was no problem on the laptop?
[02:57] <s0nee> Technicus: try kill X then run that command again
[02:57] <t55e> aeon-ltd: no but the motherboard died
[02:57] <shadow98> Technicus> s0nee: Fatal server error: Server is already active for display 0<
[02:57] <shadow98> * itaylor57 has quit (Quit: Leaving)
 Technicus: Looks like I need to kill X or something.
 t55e: there was no problem on the laptop?
[02:57] <shadow98> * axatrikx (~axatrikx@115.184.78.134) has joined #ubuntu
[02:57] <FloodBot1> shadow98: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:57] <shadow98> * misse- has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
[02:58] <t55e> aeon-ltd: so I moved to my desktop as 2nd sata drive, worked out grub issues, and decided to upgrade to 10.04 using update manger
[02:58] <aeon-ltd> t55e: but before that you were running 10.04 fine?
[02:58] <t55e> no
[02:58] <rodhash> Guys..
[02:58] <rodhash> is there any way to change the paste function from middle-click to right-click on yakuake ?? My middle button is too hard not very annoying to use..
[02:58] <t55e> I was running 9 for some time before upgrading
[02:58] <shadow98> ?
[02:58] <Technicus> s0nee: This is garbage.
[02:59] <Technicus> ERROR: garbage process ID "X".
[02:59] <s0nee> Technicus: "sudo pkill X"
[03:00] <aeon-ltd> t55e: it's not a great solution but if it's a bug the solution would be to upgrade/reinstall to the latest
[03:01] <t55e> aeon-ltd: I thought about that. My drive is dual boot with linux having seperate logical partitions for root and /home so does that make this easier?
[03:02] <t55e> ie insert live cd and say install
[03:03] <t55e> aeon-ltd: I just want to prepare myself and know the steps before doing it to understand what is going on and what decisions I need to make
[03:04] <aeon-ltd> t55e: yes having a separate /home makes it much easier to reinstall, though systemwide configs change user configs won't
[03:05] <t55e> aeon-ltd: which means...?
[03:05] <sarloth> t55e: for people who know what they are doing it is easy, but don't forget your applications are likely installed on that root partition of yours ;)
 do you know where i can download this package " libimobiledevice ' ? i have little problems to install this from repository, i add this repository, i add key, i updatet but its still no work
[03:06] <aeon-ltd> t55e: you'll be able to install 11.10 easily without losing your personal docs and it will mostly use your configs so as long as you have the same application set it will be no different for you the user
[03:06] <Braden`> Ok
[03:07] <sarloth> Aoute: looks like if you want to use it you will need to compile it http://www.libimobiledevice.org/
[03:08] <t55e> aeon-ltd:  I have few custom installed apps, like emacs. so this should not be a problem, hopefully
[03:08] <Braden`> After installing the VirtualBox Guest Additions, and after doing an Ubuntu distro upgrade, when it tries to start XWindows, I see a purple screen with the console text stretched and super imposed.  If I do ctrl+alt+f1 I can see the super-imposed text change, but the graphics for XWindows still aren't appearing correctly
[03:09] <Aoute> yea, but i dont know how to install this :p
[03:09] <Aoute> i am not knowledged user :P
[03:10] <t55e> aeon-ltd: thanks
[03:10] <sarloth> Aoute: I gathered as much ;) you may have to wait for some update :/
[03:11] <t55e> sarloth: thaks for the vote of confidence
[03:11] <jeaton> is there anyway to kill a process by the process name and not by its number?
[03:11] <t55e> s/thaks/thanks
[03:11] <Aoute> yea i should, anyway really hank you for you help :)
[03:11] <Aoute> thank*
[03:11] <s0nee> jeaton: kill ?
[03:12] <A_B_> Q: I upgraded a very standard server installation running Samba server with no GUI to 11.10. Now the network doesn't start giving me the error "Unable to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: connection refused"
[03:12] <sarloth> t55e: sorry about that, was multitasking a lot. You can do it! all you need to do is re-install and mount your /home partition but DON'T check format.
[03:12] <s0nee> jeaton: oh sorry "killall -9 <name>"
[03:12] <sarloth> t55e: afterwards, you'll have a fresh system, but still have all of your files.
[03:12] <t55e> ok right then format, will do
[03:12] <t55e> oh wait you said don't format
[03:13] <sarloth> t55e: format your / but do not format your /home
[03:13] <t55e> I got that, was just joking
[03:13] <jeaton> that works, thanks s0nee
[03:13] <sarloth> t55e: lol alright, it's a help forum. I cater to the lcd :P
 lol, finally i have this in ubu-software centre, i check it!
[03:14] <sarloth> lol, he installed the ppa and forgot the app
[03:15] <t55e> again, thanks all
[03:17] <atannus> What is Debootstrap warning? I got this when trying the Ubuntu Server Ed. and now with the Desktop Alternative images...
[03:18] <atannus> This is while "installing the base system".
[03:20] <amin`> GUYS
[03:20] <amin`> HELP ME!!
[03:20] <sarloth> amin: tell us what the problem is....
[03:21] <sarloth> amin': don't put silly characters in your s/n for irc
[03:21] <amin`> there is a package in your repos named MAGI 2. it is a beautiful luncher. where is the source
[03:21] <amin`> sarloth,  ^^ && amin was already taken
[03:22] <texas> hey guys i have been having a hell of a time with my broadcom card  so i reinstalled 11.10 on the computer didnt help at all and i cant locate any of my files eventhought the amount of diskspace taken up is the same. how can i locate my files so i can back them up and go back to 11.04
[03:23] <sarloth> amin`: try the website for it?
[03:24] <amin`> sarloth, Nothing in the word wide web instead of launchpad
[03:24] <amin`> and only a .deb link
[03:24] <sarloth> texas: you may not have mounted the partition? sudo parted /dev/sda print
[03:25] <sarloth> amin`: not seeing it in Ubuntu Software Center; where did you download it?
[03:25] <sarloth> amin`, there is also the chance it isn't open source.
[03:25] <s0nee> amin`: install .deb file by "sudo dpkg -i <name>"
[03:28] <texas> this is what i got
[03:28] <texas> Model: ATA WDC WD1600BEVS-2 (scsi)
[03:28] <texas> Disk /dev/sda: 160GB
[03:28] <texas> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
[03:28] <texas> Partition Table: msdos
[03:28] <texas> Number  Start   End    Size    Type      File system  Flags
[03:28] <FloodBot1> texas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:28] <texas>  1      1049kB  158GB  158GB   primary   ext4         boot
[03:28] <PeterP> hello, anyone awake?
[03:28] <chalcedony> how can i identify a process to kill it? i have multiple copies of something open and i want to kill one not all?
[03:29] <chalcedony> hi PeterP
[03:29] <jrib> chalcedony: use xkill if you want to just click and kill
[03:29] <PeterP> hi chalcedony
[03:29] <chalcedony> hmmm
[03:29] <texas> k this is what i got
[03:29] <sarloth> texas: when you re-installed, did you choose the "Use entire disk" option?
[03:29] <texas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/722057/
[03:29] <qin> chalcedony: ps aux | grep process_name
[03:29] <texas> i used the option that said up grade so i could keep all my files
[03:30] <qin> chalcedony: or install htop, very handy
[03:30] <PeterP> could anyone help me build a program from a tarball? I actually have the commands but cant point at the file
[03:30] <qin> chalcedony: or xkill and click on window you do not want
[03:30] <chalcedony> gnome terminal was *not* the process ..
[03:30] <s0nee> PeterP: extract the tarball first
[03:31] <texas> oh and now it wont use the boot disk anymore
[03:31] <chalcedony> laughing and umm none too happy
[03:31] <PeterP> hi again s0nee, k will do that
[03:31] <savid> Hi, I need to custom-patch my kernel on oneiric.  I'm following this, but it doesn't have instructions for oneiric.  Are there any differences I need to look out for from natty to oneiric?   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[03:31] <qin> chalcedony: in terminal, Ctrl-z and kill %1 if program will go to background
[03:32] <savid> (or from lucid, I guess)
[03:33] <chalcedony> it's ok i just have to recover all my vi(m) sessions :)
[03:33] <sarloth> texas: your files should be in your home folder...
[03:33] <PeterP> s0nee: all I am getting is 'an error occurred while extracting files'...
[03:33] <sarloth> texas: I assume anyway..
[03:33] <keithclark> My printer is installed, printed a test page, but now when I print a job it just says Processing in the Queue
[03:33] <texas> not there
[03:33] <PeterP> s0nee cant I just follow these commands without extracting? http://www.linuxpowertop.org/download.php
[03:33] <texas> it asked about a encryption option
[03:33] <texas> and it asked for a passphrase upfront
[03:34] <savid> Oh, nm, someone made instructions for oneiric.
[03:34] <s0nee> PeterP: powertop again ? lol. btw "tar -xvf" is to extract the file
[03:35] <qin> PeterP: What iswrong with repos powertop?
[03:35] <keithclark> Anyone with printing issues expertise?
[03:35] <amin`> How Could I maake a icon pack (or icon theme) ?
[03:35] <PeterP> s0nee: yep! yaaay. ok well I will probably still have problems extracting then. how can I find the file path to type into terminal? The repo is giving me 1.13 which I dont think includes the Tunables?
[03:36] <qin> !info powertop
[03:36] <texas> so is there away to unencrypt it
[03:36] <s0nee> PeterP: the file path is where you saved it
[03:36] <PeterP> s0nee qin: I tried the UK main server and Main server, both giving v1.13.
[03:37] <qin> PeterP: What says: lsb_release -sc
[03:37] <PeterP> s0nee: yeah, I am just unsure how to type the file path into terminal to arrive there. Do I need to specify partition and what is the precursor?
[03:38] <s0nee> PeterP: the simplest way is cd to the dir then "tar -zxf <name>". no path is needed
[03:38] <pipalo> I am trying to patch the xorg touchpad, it seems to work fine on 11.04 but in 11.10 I get http://mysticpaste.com/view/10459
[03:38] <PeterP> qin: I am on natty, 'what says' gave you that or you were asking me?
[03:38] <pipalo> Any help ?
[03:39] <qin> PeterP: You can (but it is also not supported) get deb from Oneiric, if 1.97 is enough and try to install it, before installing from source you have to check dependencies.
[03:40] <apporc> Hello, can sox play ape format audio files?
[03:40] <PeterP> s0nee: so for instance 'cd /media/storage/downloads tar -zxf powertop...' ?
[03:40] <s0nee> PeterP: no. 'cd /med ... /downloads' first. then 'tar ... top'
[03:40] <keithclark> Well my printer is blinking now, but never prints
[03:41] <PeterP> qin: thx, what is deb?
[03:41] <s0nee> !deb
[03:42] <PeterP> s0nee: I get No such file or directory, so my path is wrong, possibly because the tarball is on a storage partition?
[03:43] <apporc> Hello, can sox play ape format audio files? Who knows that ?
[03:43] <s0nee> PeterP: are you executing 'cd' or 'tar' ?
[03:43] <keithclark> Anyone with printer troubleshooting expertise?
[03:44] <venluckey> im semi ok with printers
[03:44] <PeterP> s0nee: atm i am just typing 'cd /what i think path might be' and getting No such file etc..
[03:44] <ShadwDrgn> can someone help met set my MCE Remote's infrared receiver up?
[03:44] <ShadwDrgn> lirc hates me
[03:44] <keithclark> venluckey, well I have a tough one here
[03:45] <sarloth> PeterP: locate <filename>?
[03:45] <venluckey> shoot keith
[03:45] <question> hey guys, im having trouble with lightdm, i installed it and it works fine, but looks like total shit, Im running it on 11.04
[03:45] <s0nee> PeterP: you should use auto complete feature by entering several character, then press tab
[03:45] <question> i installed the greeter theme, but it looks nothing like it
[03:45] <C_REATIVE> can any1 help why adblock plus doest work under 11.10?
[03:46] <keithclark> venluckey, well, I can print a test page fine, but when I print from a program all the printer does is blink.  The Print Manager says Processing.
[03:46] <venluckey> is the printer an epson?
[03:46] <keithclark> ven...no, narrowing down now actually....
[03:47] <keithclark> venluckey, from gedit it prints fine
[03:47] <PeterP> sarloth s0nee: I tried locate but it didnt return anything. no luck with tab yet. typing 'dir' just shows me folders on this partition...
[03:47] <sarloth> C_REATIVE: works fine for me...
[03:47] <venluckey> my epson workforce will do that with openoffice, but then prints after 5 minutes
[03:47] <visitor1> why does this not work : ls [l-L]*part01.rar | while read FILE;  do echo "Doing file $FILE...";unrar x "$FILE";  done
[03:47] <s0nee> PeterP: if you want to install newest powertop then 'sudo apt-get install powertop' is better
[03:47] <keithclark> venluckey, hmmm, It seems that anything printed within my FireFox is a problem.
[03:48] <venluckey> are sure your cups is updated
[03:48] <keithclark> venluckey, complete update today and I saw cups in there
[03:48] <PeterP> s0nee: I tried that on a couple of different servers but it tells me I have the latest version, and I have 1.13.
[03:49] <sarloth> PeterP: s0nee is correct. But if you are trying to find a file; locate will do the trick. It sounds like you are trying to find something without knowing what the name or directory of it is. which sounds like you didn't put it there, which sounds like it isn't there.
[03:49] <venluckey> hum sounds weird, hold on
[03:49] <sarloth> PeterP: what version do you need, and why?
[03:49] <venluckey> what kind ao fprinter and what version of ubuntu?
[03:49] <s0nee> PeterP: did you try 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[03:49] <apporc> visitor1: I think read reads one total line each time.
[03:50] <qin> visitor1: for $i in *01.rar; do may be better.
[03:50] <apporc> visitor1: and you know "ls " can make many  *.rar  in one line.
[03:50] <PeterP> s0nee: yes I updated. :/   sarloth: I just need any version that includes Tunables so that I can increase battery life. Apparently 1.13 does not include it
[03:50] <texas> i think i accedently encrypted my home folder how would i undo that
[03:50] <keithclark> venluckey, Ubuntu 11.10 and a Samsung ML-1640.  This worked good under 10.04 with another machine.  Plug and Play pretty much as I can remember
[03:50] <s0nee> PeterP: im using 1.97 now and it has that feature
[03:51] <venluckey> look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1835047
[03:51] <PeterP> sarloth s0nee: also the file is in front of me and properties shows its location as /media/sda5/sDownloads
[03:51] <qin> visitor1: Besides, #bash is better place to be explained wiredness
[03:51] <visitor1> qin : i am no expert, so how would look your line?
[03:52] <s0nee> PeterP: you should try to install using apt-get. installing from source is not recommended
[03:52] <theadmin> visitor1: Something like this: for i in $(ls *01.rar) ; do unrar $i ; done
[03:52] <PeterP> s0nee sarloth: duhh, I wasnt using sda5, I have pointed to the right directory now, will try to go from here
[03:52] <qin> for $i in *01.rar; do echo foo; unrar x "$i"; echo bar; done;
[03:52] <PeterP> s0nee: I know but cant understand why I can only get 1.13 from repositories??
[03:52] <Braden`> http://tinyurl.com/3pvoo6e <--- A snapshot of my syslog.  XWindows is not loading for some reason
[03:53] <theadmin> visitor1: or what (s)he said.
[03:53] <qin> theadmin: he
[03:53] <qin> *hi
[03:54] <theadmin> qin: ok lol. I just don't want to accidentally offend any female members of our community ;)
[03:54] <s0nee> PeterP: what ubuntu version are you running ?
[03:54] <texas> hey venluckey i reinstalled 11.10 and ithink i accedently encrypted my files oh and my broadcom still doesnt work
[03:55] <PeterP> s0nee: 11.04 natty with kernel 2.6.38-12. Will updating the kernel to 2.6.39 or 3.1 help?
[03:55] <keithclark> venluckey, Good find but I don't have those settings
[03:55] <venluckey> dang keith
[03:55] <venluckey> hey texas
[03:55] <venluckey> texas i tried to update and it was a total loss
[03:56] <venluckey> i ended up using the file for wireless from a live cd
[03:56] <venluckey> under restricted, then b
[03:56] <s0nee> PeterP: i dont think updating kernel will help. btw open software-center and verify that you have the right repository https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[03:56] <venluckey> Keith, im looking it over hold on please
[03:57] <xxiao> who uses chrome here?
[03:57] <rypervenche> xxiao: I use chromium
[03:57] <xxiao> could not find the place to open a local html file, damned
[03:57] <enchilado> CTRL+O?
[03:58] <pipalo> Can someone help me with this http://mysticpaste.com/view/10459 ? Patching xorg on 11.10 it works fine on 11/04
[03:58] <theadmin> xxiao: google-chrome ~/lol.html # ?
[03:58] <enchilado> chromium is chromium-browser
[03:58] <xxiao> enchilado: thanks, ctrl+o
[03:58] <enchilado> is chrome google-chrome or chrome-browser?
[03:59] <xxiao> no where for mouse to click after trying everywhere for a few minutes, rarely used key for that.
[03:59] <pipalo> enchilado there is two, google-chrome and chromium-browser
[03:59] <xxiao> google-chrome
[03:59] <theadmin> pipalo: You may find development help in #ubuntu-devel rather than here
[03:59] <xxiao> somehow i always felt chrome is anti-intuitive
[03:59] <pipalo> theadmin, thanks
[03:59] <PeterP> s0nee: in software centre > Edit > software sources> I cant see any with that url listed under 'Download from' and either UK or US?
[03:59] <theadmin> xxiao: It is, so use Opera :P
[03:59] <pipalo> enchilado check this http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome
[03:59] <venluckey> hey keith, did you use the samsung driver, or the default
[04:00] <Braden`> http://tinyurl.com/3pvoo6e <--- A snapshot of my syslog.  XWindows is not loading for some reason
[04:00] <xxiao> theadmin: never really used opera
[04:00] <venluckey> http://www.samsung.com/sg/consumer/pc-peripherals-printer/printer-multifunction/mono-laser-printer/ML-1640/XSS/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=support     , this is samsungs
[04:00] <theadmin> xxiao: Do try, it's sort of a compromise between Firefox and Chrome -- fast but nevertheless intuitive and not ugly
[04:00] <keithclark> venluckey, with all previous versions of Ubuntu, what was in the box
[04:01] <texas> venluckey the thing is the same amount of diskspace is taken up and i chose the option to let me keep my files
[04:01] <xxiao> google needs some designer, too many engineers tend to make things twisted too much
[04:01] <venluckey> texas, did you back it up?
[04:01] <Miggs> Hey guys - can anyone help me debug why I can't see the PulseAudio network server in the client PC device list?
[04:01] <hetand> hello
[04:02] <texas> noo
[04:02] <texas> i chose the upgrade option
[04:02] <venluckey> well, sounds like somehow the files are kinda screwy
[04:02] <texas> off the disk
[04:02] <texas> yeah they arent in any folder
[04:02] <texas> but 58gigs  are taken up still
[04:02] <venluckey> so ya cant find the broadcom driver?
[04:03] <texas> i tried all the junk online again still no dice
[04:03] <venluckey> do you use the sta version?
[04:03] <texas> so im making a 11.04 disk
[04:03] <texas> b43
[04:03] <s0nee> PeterP: no that link is meant for you to read
[04:04] <venluckey> texas, send me your email, ill send it to you
[04:04] <venluckey> i have it on my desktop
[04:04] <PeterP> s0nee: doh, thanks! reading...
[04:04] <xxiao> html5 canvas is lovely
[04:04] <keithclark> Anyone know how to install Drop Box in 11.10?
[04:04] <atannus> I tried 10.04, 10.10 and 11.10 alternative CDs and all of them throw the following message around 41%: [!!] Install de base system \n Debootstrap Warning \n Failure while unpacking required packages. This will be attempted up to five times
[04:05] <atannus> Can anyone help?
[04:05] <airtonix> keithclark: sudo apt-get install dropbox
[04:05] <theadmin> keithclark: You can not, it doesn't support GNOME 3
[04:05] <keithclark> theadmin, I thought so
[04:05] <s0nee> PeterP: then try to get the sources right. i believe theres something wrong with your repositories because i installedh powertop 1.97 using apt-get
[04:05] <theadmin> keithclark: Altough, there is an oneric package called "nautilus-dropbox" in the repos... Try that
[04:06] <keithclark> theadmin, No, I think I'm done with Ubuntu.....Ubuntu One is a disaster....Drop Box does not work.
[04:06] <airtonix> keithclark: sparkleshare works great
[04:06] <theadmin> keithclark: It won't work in any distro -__-
[04:06] <keithclark> theadmin, what won't work?
[04:06] <PeterP> s0nee: k thanks. I added some repositories early on so will see if I need others. I thought I had universe and multiverse included already, but checking
[04:07] <Braden`> http://tinyurl.com/3pvoo6e <--- A snapshot of my syslog.  XWindows is not loading for some reason
[04:07] <theadmin> keithclark: Dropbox. Any distro will switch to Gnome 3 over time, and therefore break dropbox
[04:07] <s0nee> theadmin: what about downloading deb from dropbox.com ?
[04:07] <keithclark> theadmin, got you.
[04:07] <Polah> keithclark, dropbox. It requires parts of GNOME2 which is no longer supported or available on any distribution of Linux using GNOME3, which is a lot since GNOME2 isn't supported.
[04:07] <airtonix> s0nee: that's all the nautilus-dropbox package does
[04:08] <keithclark> theadmin, linux alternatives or back to windows?
[04:08] <theadmin> keithclark: Try spideroak, works great for me
[04:08] <Polah> keithclark, nothing newer than several months probably
[04:08] <keithclark> theadmin, how to trust?
[04:08] <theadmin> keithclark: ...?
[04:08] <zaoul1> thats neat, latest qemu and it does not have rbd support
[04:08] <zaoul1> ubuntu is so cutting edge
[04:09] <theadmin> zaoul1: If you think Ubuntu is cutting edge, you never tried a real distro like Fedora or Arch or...
[04:09] <airtonix> theadmin: i'm not sure what you mean by dropbox doesn't work in 11.10, i just installed it and it works
[04:09] <theadmin> airtonix: Oh, so they support gnome3 now? That's cute.
[04:09] <airtonix> keithclark: did you try intsalling nautilus-dropbox?
[04:10] <keithclark> airtonix, it seems like the advice above that with gnome 3 it is broken
[04:10] <airtonix> theadmin: i don't know if they do or not... i just know i see 'dropbox' in my context menu in nautilus, the sync overlay icons on folders and the dropbox icon in the notification area
[04:10] <cmdlist> hi all
[04:10] <theadmin> airtonix: lol that's good enough to tell they do
[04:10] <s0nee> cmdlist: hi. problem ?
[04:10] <airtonix> keithclark: oh ok, so my 11.10 install with dropbox running must be magical?
[04:11] <cmdlist> just wanted to drop in and say i'm having great luck with 11.10 on this new lenovo x120e
[04:11] <cmdlist> everything seems to work ootb
[04:11]  * theadmin uses thunar-dropbox
[04:11] <venluckey> great cmdlist
[04:11] <venluckey> for the Dell Mini 9, Xbuntu work wonderfully
[04:11] <cmdlist> sadly lenovo wouldn't give me a refund on the windows 7 copy.. :/
[04:12] <pipalo> anyone out there with HP probook and using 11.10 ?
[04:12] <Miggs> Hey guys - Can anyone give me a hand debugging a PulseAudio network server not-showing-up problem?
[04:12] <PeterP> s0nee: one last question. the only source I needed to add is under Other Software, 'Canonical Partners' (not including boxes with Source code). I didnt get the update option so is it 'sudo apt-get update' I run and then should be done?
[04:12] <venluckey> yeah, welcome to that war, if you ask Microsoft, they say "Contact your OEM for a refund"
[04:12] <airtonix> cmdlist: next time buy from system-something-something-something
[04:12] <theadmin> cmdlist: They wouldn't if you ran it at least once
[04:12] <sh|uNeX_> but I'm not using ubuntu, I'm using debian
[04:12] <sh|uNeX_> inside a shel
[04:13] <sh|uNeX_> shell*
[04:13] <roasted> Has anybody installed Handbrake on 11.10? I'm getting errors with the PPA.
[04:13] <sh|uNeX_> on a 8 node cluster
[04:13] <s0nee> PeterP: apt-get update will update the list of package. then run 'sudo apt-get install powertop' to install it
[04:13] <theadmin> sh|uNeX_: Debian support is in #debian -______-
[04:13] <sh|uNeX_> woot woot
[04:14] <cmdlist> roasted: i had that problem too.. i don't think there is a release for 11.10 yet
[04:14] <theadmin> Anyway, I have to go.
[04:14] <keithclark> airtonix, Installing now....you could have said that less sarcastic.  Just a bit of feedback.  Your advice, offer it as you wish.
[04:14] <s0nee> cmdlist: you will need windows when something goes wrong with ubuntu, lol
[04:14] <pipalo> anyone with 11.10 on a probook ? how did you fixed the touchpad issue ?
[04:15] <cmdlist>  i'm pretty comfortable on ubuntu s0nee :)
[04:15] <PeterP> s0nee: no luck. 'powertop is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 17 not upgraded.'
[04:16] <s0nee> cmdlist: stay here and you will see how things go wrong with ubuntu
[04:16] <PeterP> s0nee: nvm for now, thanks for your help (and sarloth). bedtime for me. i will be back! lol
[04:16] <airtonix> keithclark: no, i'm pretty sure my laptop is magical
[04:16] <venluckey> <---- Uses Xubuntu 10.04 on hardrive, have Ubuntu 9.10 on external for recovery and such if 10.04 gives out
[04:16] <s0nee> PeterP: good night
[04:16] <keithclark> airtonix, then that is AWESOME!
[04:16] <airtonix> keithclark: i know right :>
[04:16] <keithclark> airtonix, sell me a clone?
[04:17] <airtonix> keithclark: serious time. you also have sparkleshare to use, which you can use with github
[04:17] <keithclark> airtonix, yes, researching.
[04:17] <airtonix> keithclark: or your own gitolite repository (like we do at our workplace)
[04:17] <keithclark> airtonix, (serious, frustrated face at the moment)
[04:17] <cmdlist> is there anyway to change the task switch so that the window is displayed when you arrow over. so that you don't have to arrow down each time?
[04:18] <keithclark> airtonix, Yes, but I liked the whole integrated thing that Ubuntu One was supposed to deliver
[04:18] <roasted> cmdlist, that's a bummer. Is there another solid encoder alternative to handbrake for the time being?
[04:18] <cmdlist> roasted: not that i'm aware of.. :(
[04:19] <keithclark> airtonix, now it's fragmented
[04:19] <xxiao> whenever i close my firefox i could not type into a terminal, i have to click on somewhere else once then i can type in terminal again
[04:19] <xxiao> if i open a few tabs in terminal, and exit one of it, i could not type in another tab, until i click somewhere else, or switch to a different tab
[04:20] <xxiao> that exists ever since 10.04 came out, anyone saw the same problem
[04:20] <xxiao> can you type into terminal right after closing firefox?
[04:21] <xxiao> it's like 'close' on some window(e.g. firefox) will lock my terminal's input until the mouse clicks somewhere else _once_
[04:21] <opticlove> question time: i want to install ubuntu, and I already have installed windows with a truecrypt bootloader. all the guides i've found say to install both os's, then truecrypt. do i have to unencrypt the drive or is there another way?
[04:21] <jjustman> Hello! I'm trying to change from kernel 2.6.32-34 to 2.6.32-33 for compatibility with a binary kernel module. How do I do this without breaking anything?
[04:22] <carl_> testing; testing
[04:22] <ZeDestructor> anyone in here with an intel 2200BG wifi card?
[04:22] <carl_> well, that seemed to work
[04:22] <ZeDestructor> freind of mine has issues connecting on ubuntu 11.04
[04:23] <carl_> issues as in can't connect at all, or dropped connections?
[04:23] <ZeDestructor> can´t connect at all
[04:23] <xangua> jjustman: press the Shift key when you start your pc to show Grub and select the kernel you want
[04:23] <texas> anyone know how to go in a nd create a passphrase for an encrypted home folder
[04:24] <texas> i didnt do it when my comp came on
[04:25] <Braden`> Does anyone know the solution to my problem?
[04:25] <Braden`> http://tinyurl.com/3pvoo6e <--- A snapshot of my syslog.  XWindows is not loading for some reason
[04:25] <jjustman> xangua: yes, but how do I make that change persist?
[04:25] <jjustman> xangua: I'm thinking maybe by editing /etc/defaults/grub
[04:26] <edbian> jjustman, edit /etc/default/grub and then run update-grub
[04:26] <jjustman> Ah ;) And that won't confuse dpkg?
[04:27] <edbian> jjustman, dpkg is the package manager, it has nothing to do with /etc/default/grub
[04:27] <yo> is there a way in ubuntu 11.10 to go back to the old gnome view?
[04:27] <BTCTrader> does anyone know how to remove the default left dock? i have cairo installed and i cant find any way to disable it
[04:27] <jjustman> edbian: right, I just thought that it might think the other kernel was still in use
[04:28] <edbian> jjustman, dpkg works on any kernel :)
 hi, i have a 18db yagi antenna and a 1000 mw USB wifi adaptor, i have them perfectly in line of site, but the signal still about 10% too low for a good connection, any suggestions to boost this?
[04:28] <xangua> well on lucid i use startup manager jjustman to set default kernel to load, but someone said to me it no longer works
[04:28] <edbian> jjustman, bottom line, it doesn't make a difference
[04:28] <xangua> !gnome2 | yo
[04:28] <jjustman> edbian: thanks, I'll give it a shot
[04:28] <edbian> jjustman, sure
[04:28] <yo> an alternative?
[04:28] <yo> kde maybe?
[04:29] <pangolin> !notunity | yo
[04:29] <crooks> smcbukcet, how much distance is there between the AP and the client?
[04:29] <smcbukcet> crooks , im not so sure, but i am so very close
[04:29] <smcbukcet> i only need like 1 bar more and i can surf fine
[04:29] <yo> so I install gnome-panel and then what?
[04:30] <Braden`> Does anyone know the solution to my problem?
[04:30] <nprezident> does anyone know how to check if a command is true example i want to test ps -e | grep 1111 then true echo " true else echo false
[04:30] <crooks> smcbukcet, you don't know how far away you are from the AP?  Are you stealing from a neighbour or something?
[04:30] <edbian> Braden`, what's your problem?
[04:30] <s0nee> yo: after installing you will have option to choose to use gnome classic (2) when you log in
[04:30] <pangolin> yo: install gnome panel then log out and at the login manager click on the "gear" and select gnome classic
[04:30] <jschall> my mom ran the distro upgrade on her laptop and accidentally shut the machine down while it was running the update... i was able to recover it for the most part but it no longer starts KDM at startup. i have to sudo restart kdm from a tty to get it going. any thoughts on fixing this?
[04:31] <baldaris> hey...I just tried to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 , after the restart it gives me error the symbol grub_xputs' not found...i do have live cd for 10.4 but not for 10.10...please advice
[04:31] <baldaris> command prompt to grub_rescue
[04:31] <Braden`> edbian:  xwindows isn't loading
[04:31] <yo> thanks
[04:31] <Braden`> http://tinyurl.com/3pvoo6e <--- A snapshot of my syslog.  XWindows is not loading for some reason
[04:31] <s0nee> jschall: maybe look at configuration file of kde in /etc/init ?
[04:32] <edbian> Braden`, I see no errors in that file.  Can you log in CLI and run startx  ?
[04:33] <ShadwDrgn> nvm i just plugged in my usb receive :~(
[04:33] <ShadwDrgn> onboard one not recognized
[04:35] <BTCTrader> anyone know how to disable the default dock in ubuntu? google is not helping
[04:36] <rodhash1> Hi guys.. is there any way to change the paste function from 'ctrl + shift +v' to 'ctrl + v' on yakuake?
[04:36] <robin0800> BTCTrader, use ccsm unity plugiun
[04:37] <BTCTrader> thanks robin
[04:41] <opticlove> if i install ubuntu to a second hd and have windows encrypted on the first drive, what would happen?
[04:41] <baldaris> any one??
[04:42] <opticlove> also could i hit ESC on the boot loader to boot into ubuntu?
[04:42] <retr0> opticlove: it should work fine, unless you need to access your windows partition from ubuntu
[04:44] <retr0> opticlove: which boot loader are you using?  Usually you use grub to boot ubuntu and windows
[04:45] <opticlove> well i'm using truecrypt boot loader, but grub2 would be on another drive...
[04:46] <opticlove> i know that they're incompatible and my setup might not allow me to use grub2tc because i encrypted the drive before i installed both OS's
[04:47] <rodhash1> any one?
[04:48] <administrator__> HI All!
[04:48] <retr0> opticlove: Yeah, I'm not familiar with truecrypt bootloader...give it a try on a test hard drive and let us know how it went
[04:49] <Miggs> Hey guys, can anyone help me work out why my PulseAudio network server is not being detected by the client?
[04:49] <opticlove> before i do it i want to know, is the MBR located systemwide or on individual drives?
[04:49] <retr0> an individual drive
[04:49] <davidadsit> hey all. can anyone help me out with my wubi installation?
[04:50] <retr0> opticlove: I'm running a hackintosh and I've got chameleon as a boot loader on the primary drive, with the second drive I've had various boot loaders including grub
[04:50] <retr0> opticlove: what matters it the drive that your bios boots first
[04:50] <opticlove> i see, and how do you switch between them when you turn it on?
[04:50] <opticlove> through bios everytime?
[04:50] <Miggs> Sorry, rebooted the wrong machine. Anyone able to help me out with PulseAudio server not showing up?
[04:51] <davidadsit> it starts to boot, then just hangs. sometimes the machine restarts. other times the screen just goes black and nothing happens...
[04:51] <davidadsit> it was working fine before. then I tried to upgrade to 11.10.
[04:52] <retr0> opticlove: whatever your hotkey is to bring us the boot order--on my machine it's F7.  However, you can chainload bootloaders.  Eg, on my machine that I've got now I installed grub to a 100mb partition rather than the MBR and then chameleon finds that and I can boot to that, and then further select whatever I've got loaded in grub
[04:52] <retr0> if that makes sense
[04:53] <opticlove> it does
[04:54] <davidadsit> anyone?
[04:54] <opticlove> one more question: how physically secure is the ubuntu home folder encryption?
[04:55] <opticlove> i'm asking cause would it be overkill to install truecrypt over ubuntu? lol
[04:55] <retr0> opticlove: It's (AES256)
[04:56] <retr0> So it's just a matter of what you need
[04:56] <retr0> opticlove: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome for a start
[04:56] <opticlove> thanks
[04:58] <DurzoBlint15> I finally figured out how to run GNOME 3 by default in Ubuntu 11.10!    sudo /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults -s gnome-shell
[05:01] <jjgalvez__> how do you manage user groups in 11.10?
[05:01] <Braden`> If I am logged in as my normal user "braden" xwindows won't load (probably because i had it set to use the experience that 11.10 no longer supports) where as if I am logged in as a different user or root, xwindows loads
[05:02] <Braden`> How do I delete my personalized xwindows experience?
[05:02] <Braden`> so it will reset to default?
[05:02] <Braden`> for my account
[05:03] <bingo> hello
[05:03] <mike-king-> Hello
[05:03] <bingo> what's this...
[05:04] <mike-king-> Depends, what is it that you are referring to?
[05:04] <Braden`> It was trying to load gnome2
[05:04] <Braden`> for my "braden" account
[05:05] <mike-king-> Question for anyone who may know: My Time keeps going to 1960, and my bios has the time right. Any help?
[05:05] <Braden`> mike-king-:  Thats impressive since its before the EPOCH
[05:05] <Miggs> mike-king-: You have to disable the flux capacitor.
[05:06] <mike-king-> I know... Any help? Really? BTTF Referance?
[05:07] <smcbukcet> hi
[05:07] <Miggs> Buggered if I know what you need to do. I'm stuck trying to get my PulseAudio setup working.
[05:07] <smcbukcet> who wants to suck my cock
[05:07] <mike-king-> Ubuntu 11.10 - Any help
[05:08] <mod> ok... 6GB RAM ... do I really need a swap partition, heh
[05:08] <sskniranjan> how to organise the items in the launcher of ubuntu11.10
[05:08] <mike-king-> I don't want a dirty mouth like yours. Keep you cock to yourself.
[05:08] <qin> mike-king-: If your bios resets itself, change battery.
[05:08] <mike-king-> It isnt the battery.
[05:09] <qin> mike-king-: Disregard, we done here.
[05:09] <mike-king-> The BIOS shows the correct time.
[05:09] <xangua> !language | mike-king-
[05:09] <xangua> mod: do you want to hibernate¿
[05:09] <mike-king-> I don't care.
[05:10] <sskniranjan> how to organise items in the launcher of ubuntu 11.10
[05:10] <xangua> sskniranjan: tried to drag them¿
[05:10] <mike-king-> All I want is to know how to set the clock and keep it from IMMIDEATLY going back to 1960
[05:11] <sskniranjan> no its not happenning in ubuntu 11.10: xangua
[05:11] <ronbas> playing 1080p mkv files with a quad core phenom and an amd radeon 5500 series should be fine on 64-bit 11.10, right?
[05:12] <TulzR911> hi mike-king
[05:12] <mike-king-> Hello?
[05:12] <TulzR911> have you tried to use a web-time server?
[05:12] <mike-king-> Yep. And Manual.
[05:12] <TulzR911> no success?
[05:12] <Braden`> Got it
[05:13] <mike-king-> Nope.
[05:13] <Braden`> Just wiped out all the .files in my home directory
[05:13] <TulzR911> :-/
[05:13] <mike-king-> As soon as I set the time, it reverts
[05:13] <Amdpc> !cedega
[05:14] <DurzoBlint15> When I use sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade it installs new updates but then one second later the update manager comes up saying there are more updates... Does apt-get upgrade only install certain things?
[05:14] <TulzR911> is it a brand-new intallation mike?
[05:15] <mike-king-> Yes, pretty well
[05:15] <mike-king-> Just finished updates
[05:15] <mike-king-> installed yesterday
[05:15] <DurzoBlint15> You should install GNOME 3. In my opinion, it is far better than Unity.
[05:16] <mike-king-> Loving ubuntu so far, except for the clock.
[05:16] <TulzR911> try reinstalling it...
[05:16] <DurzoBlint15> You might like GNOME mike.
[05:16] <mike-king-> This is the 2nd Install
[05:16] <TulzR911> you shouldn't have anything vital yet, do you?
[05:16] <TulzR911> oh...
[05:17] <TulzR911> same prob w the first one?
[05:17] <xangua> DurzoBlint15: nonsense, unity runs on top of gnome
[05:17] <mike-king-> yes
[05:17] <xuti> what is wrong with the clock?
[05:17] <sskniranjan> how to organise items within the launcher of ubuntu 11.10
[05:17] <DurzoBlint15> How? GNOME seems way faster and there is no annoying bar popping out on the left side of the screen.
[05:17] <mod> xangua, good point
[05:17] <TulzR911> have you cheecked if there are any bugs with your hardware?
[05:17] <jjgalvez__> how do you manage groups in 11.10?
[05:17] <mod> about hibernating
[05:18] <rypervenche> DurzoBlint15: You could try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" as well for things that require a reboot.
[05:18] <mike-king-> Everything worked properly with all previous versions of ubuntu that I have tried, and it worked correctly under WinXP, and 7
[05:19] <mike-king-> as far as 9.01
[05:19] <TulzR911> you're installing wich ubuntu?
[05:19] <mike-king-> x86 11.10
[05:19] <TulzR911> oh,
[05:20] <TulzR911> well... I personally don't like that much 11.10 (not even 11.04)
[05:20] <TulzR911> i'm still using 10.04
[05:20] <mike-king-> What do you suggest that may help me?
[05:20] <mike-king-> Other than a downgrade?
[05:20] <TulzR911> try installing a previous version
[05:20] <TulzR911> ooh, too late :)
[05:20] <TulzR911> hmm...
[05:20] <Amdpc> Hi...Is cedega free ?
[05:20] <mike-king-> lol
[05:20] <TulzR911> check if your harware has any bugs
[05:21] <mike-king-> How?
[05:21] <TulzR911> check (in windows if you like) which hardware (and firmware) you have installed
[05:22] <texas> anyone have any tps on retreving the pasphrase to a encrypted home folder
[05:22] <texas> uve tried everythign
[05:22] <mike-king-> As I said, It worked properly with XP, 7, 9.01, etc.
[05:22] <TulzR911> then google it like: "bios XXXX ubuntu 11.10 clock trouble" or something
[05:22] <rypervenche> texas: That was the whole reason you encrypted it, so people couldn't find the passphrase and the data that was encrypted.
[05:23] <texas> i didnt mean to
[05:23] <TulzR911> yu I heard it the first time
[05:23] <mike-king-> Texas, did you write down the big long encryption passphrase?
[05:23] <texas> no and i did the thing where i enter my login paswword and it gives me an error
[05:24] <texas> everything has gone screwy my comp wont read the boot disc  wont write a disk for 11.04 all bad things from 11.10
[05:24] <zaoul1> so when I aa-complain to turn something off, its a feature for it to NOT turn off?
[05:25] <zaoul1> I can still see in syslog apparmor blocking libvirt
[05:25] <texas> becasue now i cant acces any of my files
[05:25] <zaoul1> ugh
[05:26] <zaoul1> funny how I think I am going to save time by using ubuntu
[05:27] <CellTech> 60gb hdd, ubuntu 10.04. and only 7gb free space? There's no way 10.04 can be that big
[05:28] <MrBIOS> hey folks, anybody here going to Ubuntu Developer Summit next week in Orlando?
[05:28] <C_REATIVE> can any1 help why adblock plus doest work under 11.10?
[05:28] <C_REATIVE> (64bit)
[05:28] <crooks> Works for me C_REATIVE
[05:28] <mike-king-> Do you know why my clock is resetting to 1960? And google has no results pertaining to my time bug.
[05:29] <mod> did you check the time in your bios?
[05:29] <crooks> check your BIOS settings?
[05:29] <zaoul1> im sure my company will be there trying to sell unicorns
[05:29] <mike-king-> *Hides flux capasitor* and the BIOS time is correct. Only ubuntu
[05:29] <MrBIOS> zaoul1: blue ones???
[05:30] <MrBIOS> I guess I should be MrEFI
[05:30] <zaoul1> rainbow ones
[05:30] <C_REATIVE> but why not working for me ? :D
[05:30] <MrBIOS> perhaps you young whippersnappers are too little to remember the MrBIOS brand
[05:30] <mod> maybe you're just really groovy?
[05:30] <mike-king-> or MrBIOEFI
[05:30] <MrBIOS> I do have an Itanium2 Altix :)
[05:30] <CellTech> C_REATIVE I use adblock and it works just fine for me
[05:30] <mike-king-> My laptop has a i7 3ghz
[05:30] <mod> hey, I have an ST506 on my desk at work
[05:30] <MrBIOS> It's defintely I have that in my pants
[05:31] <MrBIOS> I have a VT420 on my desk at work
[05:31] <mike-king-> Any help?
[05:31] <MrBIOS> and it works
[05:33] <mod> vt420 is like 1990s, so young
[05:33] <xgt001> hello
[05:33] <mod> heh
[05:33] <xgt001> some suggestions needed for power saving in the default oneiric kernel
[05:36] <sskniranjan> anyone plzz  help me in organising the items within the launcher of ubuntu 11.10
[05:37] <sskniranjan> it is not dragging as in the previous version
[05:37] <zaoul1> this is so werid
[05:37] <enriq> hi, anyone knows if on ubuntu 10.04 I should have both libimobiledevice0 0.9.7 and libimobiledevice 1.0.4 for mounting ios5 device?
[05:37] <Islam> I wanted to do the md5sum test for a 11.10 iso,, but I didnt find it in the hash menu how should I make sure the image is ok ?
[05:38] <zaoul1> like the twilight zone mixed with night shadows mixed with twinpeaks
[05:40] <ai9371> hello
[05:40] <ai9371> im running ubuntu server
[05:40] <xgt001> Islam, do u have md5 sum ?
[05:41] <ai9371> and Im not getting any internet connection when it is connected directly wired
[05:41] <ai9371> i typed in if config and etho doesnt even show up it just says lo
[05:41] <Islam> yes I got response already but the hash page on ubuntu.com doesnt have the 11.10 hashes
[05:41] <xgt001> if u have the correct md5 sum of the original image , u can do md5sum filname.iso and then compare the sums
[05:41] <ai9371> i have tried /etc/init.d/network restart that didnt work either
[05:42] <savid> Hi, I'm trying to custom-compile a kernel for ubuntu and am getting this error:  "The path '/usr/lib/python2.7' is not executable, *** Please set 'PYTHON' appropriately.  Stop".   Any ideas how to fix?
[05:42] <mod> ai9371 is the network chipset supported?
[05:42] <ai9371> i mean  it wired
[05:42] <Islam> xgt001: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes this page doesnt have the 11.10 hashes
[05:42] <zaoul1> ai9371: you try ifconfig -a ?
[05:42] <xgt001> savid, python giving errors? can u do menuconfig?
[05:42] <mod> savid, it seems to tell you
[05:43] <ai9371> ok etho shows up when i go ifcoinfig -a
[05:43] <savid> mod,  "it says please set python appropriately".  I don't know what is "appropriate"
[05:43] <mod> savid, set it to the python binary...
[05:43] <zaoul1> prolly need to apt-get install python-devel
[05:43] <mod> that could be
[05:43] <mod> but it does sounds like its set incorrectly
[05:44] <mod> sounds like it wants the executable
[05:44] <ai9371> ok so now what do i do
[05:44] <ai9371> No internet its wired
[05:44] <ai9371> etho kind of shows up
[05:44] <mod> kind of?
[05:44] <savid> ok, thanks.  that seemed to be it.  I was confused because PYTHON is set to the lib directory on ubuntu by default,  I guess perf expects it to be the binary interpreter
[05:44] <ai9371> when i type ifconfig -all but ping www.google.com doesnt work
[05:45] <mod> yw
[05:45] <ai9371> mod it shows up when i type ifconfig -a
[05:45] <mod> ai9371, are you sure you have something serving dhcp
[05:45] <ai9371> im on the interne tright now
[05:45] <ai9371> on wireless
[05:46] <ai9371> with my experience with ubuntu you plug in the wire do so auto connect and it works
[05:46] <zaoul1> do dhclient eth0
[05:46] <Lee_Prison> hi,where is the chrome's  cookie file  in ubuntu10.04
[05:46] <ai9371> this is a dual boot sustem and when i switch over to windows everything works
[05:46] <mod> ai9371, you need something to supply an address
[05:46] <mod> if there's no dhcp server
[05:46] <ai9371> the router
[05:46] <ai9371> ??
[05:47] <ai9371> i mean likes i said the computer it windows ubuntu dual boot
[05:47] <ai9371> Ubuntu server 11
[05:47] <mod> ai9371...
[05:47] <ai9371> when igo to windows everything works, when i go to ubuntu it does not
[05:47] <mod> things dont get networking setup magically
[05:47] <ai9371> im new to ubuntu server and bash at that
[05:47] <mod> this is not ubuntu specific
[05:48] <ai9371> bash
[05:48] <ai9371> ok im no good with bash
[05:49] <ai9371> i tried /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:49] <texas> so i have a encrypted home folder with all my files and i cant get in it no mater what my comp wont read a boot cd  so i can get out of this terrible 11.10 can anyone help on those two subjects or am i going to have to wipe my hard drives and start over
[05:50] <ai9371> hello
[05:50] <ai9371> I just installed ubuntu server
[05:50] <ai9371> and now  i have  no interenet even wired
[05:50] <ai9371> and there only bash shell what do i do
[05:51] <pnorman> What's your network card?
[05:51] <ai9371> its built into my gigabyte mobo
[05:51] <pnorman> What's the chipset?
[05:51] <ai9371> im just trying the wired for now
[05:51] <ai9371> wired is fine
[05:51] <ai9371> sould work right?
[05:52] <pnorman> and it's normal to have only a bash shell - ubuntu server by default has no GUI
[05:52] <pnorman> I had to go through some efforts to get my network card working, although my onboard worked fine.
[05:52] <ai9371> yeah im just working with onboard
[05:52] <pnorman> What's the chipset on it?
[05:52] <ai9371> see i didnt configure anything at startup
[05:54] <texas> can anyone help me get my files out of this encrypted home folder
[05:55] <pnorman> Anyways, I'd first try to see if it's that you have no internet, or no network at all. If it's no internet but it sees the port, then I'd check DHCP/etc settings. If it doesn't see it at all it's more work
[05:56] <ai9371> Realtek 8100C Ethernet controller
[05:58] <Braden`> Hello
[05:58] <Braden`> When I boot my comp, it says "Can't open display!" when trying to start xwindows, but if as a normal user, I type:  startx, it loads just fine
[05:58] <Braden`> How do I fix that?
[06:00] <peepsalot> can a 64bit linux run 32bit apps?
[06:00] <psycho_oreos> yes
[06:01] <peepsalot> what do i have to do.  it won't let me install this i386 package
[06:01] <ai9371> looks like its going to be a lot of work because ubuntu isnt recognizing me wired card
[06:01] <ai9371> darn!
[06:01] <pnorman> ai9371: post the results of ifconfig -a to pastebin or somewhere
[06:02] <pnorman> oh wait... no internet, can't easily do that
[06:02] <ai9371> it gives the hwaddr
[06:02] <ai9371> mostlye everythiung else is 0
[06:02] <psycho_oreos> can't you find amd64 variation of that package?
[06:03] <pnorman> ai9371: http://paste.ubuntu.com/722106/ is my ifconfig -a for a similar network interface (realtek 8111 onboard)
[06:03] <pnorman> It's not connected or anything on my computer so no IP
[06:04] <ai9371> its loooks similar to that
[06:04] <pnorman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/722107/ is my full results, including eth1 which is connected
[06:04] <zykotick9> psycho_oreos, do you have the ia32-libs package installed?  it provides general 32bit support on 64bit systems.  is it a DEB that you're trying to install?
[06:05] <zykotick9> peepsalot, ^
[06:05] <psycho_oreos> zykotick9, wrong nick :)
[06:05] <zykotick9> psycho_oreos, sorry
[06:05] <psycho_oreos> zykotick9, all good
[06:05] <pnorman> ai9371: No inet addr or anything?
[06:06] <ai9371> so what are you saying you had to get a nother etherenet card?
[06:06] <ai9371> eth1
[06:06] <pnorman> I had to get another ethernet card because the broadcom chipsets aren't as good as the intel ones
[06:06] <Braden`> When I boot my comp, it says "Can't open display!" when trying to start xwindows, but if as a normal user, I type:  startx, it loads just fine.  How do I fix that?
[06:06] <zykotick9> ai9371, did you try dhcp?  "sudo dhclient eth0"
[06:07] <s0nee> zykotick9: i want to add runlevel 3 (multi user, no X). i googled some guides but they are all outdated. any ideas ?
[06:07] <ejv> here's a thought, change inittab :P
[06:07] <zykotick9> s0nee, ubuntu doesn't use runlevels in that manner.  to disable Xorg from starting just disable your DM.
[06:08] <zykotick9> !runlevels | s0nee
[06:08] <ai9371> ok thanks zykotick9 that workd!
[06:08] <ai9371> great
[06:08] <s0nee> ejv: hmm ubuntu uses upstart so inittab is not used
[06:08] <peepsalot> zykotick9, i figured it out, it was a .deb and i had to sudo dpkg --force-architecture file.deb
[06:08] <ejv> here i thought my gentoo wisdom would crossover :D
[06:08] <ejv> oh well, a good guess :D
[06:09] <s0nee> zykotick9: i know. now i want to add a custom runlevel. i edited lightdm.conf not to run on runlevel 3 but no clue how to add it ?
[06:09] <zykotick9> peepsalot, nice
[06:09] <ai9371> unable to locate ubuntu desktop?
[06:09] <zykotick9> s0nee, changing the runlevel isn't going to help.  Disable lightdm from starting.
[06:10] <ai9371> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:10] <ai9371> im trying to get ubuntu server onto gui
[06:10] <vyrgozunqk> hello guys, do you have any idea how to activate all ions in the notification area ?
[06:10] <vyrgozunqk> icons*
[06:10] <ejv> s0nee: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#runlevels
[06:11] <ejv> found some info for you there
[06:11] <ejv> looks up to date
[06:11] <ai9371> sudo apt-get update works!
[06:11] <ai9371> :)
[06:11] <ai9371> at least im gettnig somewhere thanks guys
[06:12] <s0nee> ejv: i added DEFAUL_RUNLEVEL=3 to grub.cfg but runlevel still returns 2
[06:12] <ai9371> ok its working
[06:14] <kfizz> After upgrading to Ocelot, I just can't get used to the new Unity or Gnome 3. I've tried using the Gnome Classic but even that annoys me. If I switch to KDE, how will most of the progs I'm used to running (Rhythmbox, Libre Office, Firefox, etc.) be affected, if at all?
[06:14] <ai9371> the new gnome is awesoe
[06:15] <ai9371> get used to it
[06:15] <s0nee> !nounity | kfizz
[06:15] <zaoul2> get productive, use xmonad
[06:15] <s0nee> kfizz: gnome-shell looks awesome to me
[06:15] <smw> kfizz, all programs will still work
[06:15] <smw> kfizz, they just may not be installed by default
[06:16] <smw> kfizz, I use firefox and libre in kde (I am a refugee from unity/gnome 3 ;-) )
[06:16] <kfizz> ai9371m s0nee, I think the interface is appealing, but the interaction isn't working well with me. I'm used to Alt+Tab switching between all open windows, not programs. I hate that if I have two terminals open to switch between them I have to Alt+Tab to the terminal, wait for it to show the others, then switch.
[06:17] <D_RU> totally agree
[06:17] <kfizz> smw, I think I may be converting as well. I've been a gnome user forever though :/
[06:17] <smw> kfizz, I don't use rhythmbox, but the only real difference is that it won't be integrated with the volume control :-)
[06:17] <D_RU> gnomes where it's at
[06:17] <smw> kfizz, ah, I bounce around every time they do something stupid.
[06:18] <kfizz> And I hate that I don't have my panel applets anymore! Can't see processor temp, usage, networking usage, and no weather applet!
[06:18] <smw> kfizz, takes about an hour of going through the kde settings until you have a usable system IMHO, but it is the best option I have found for 11.11
[06:19] <smw> kfizz, I should probably use xfce again. Last time I used it I was considering it over old gnome and found that it worked different and I had no reason to switch
[06:19] <Syd23> kfizz true that..the alt+tab is useful but not full featured
[06:19] <xubunturob> Hi all I was wondering if anyone else is having trouble with minitube 1.5   ??
[06:19] <smw> kfizz, now I may be able to deal with the differences after using it awhile
[06:19] <kfizz> I thought about xfce, too, but I figured KDE is the next most mature DE.
[06:20] <pdq> kfizz, there are system monitor and weather indicators that do work in unity/gnome-shell
[06:20] <smw> kfizz, I have heard nothing wrong about xfce. I just didn't like it last time I tried it. But I had different standards :-P
[06:20] <kfizz> pdq, where are they placed? I couldn't find any info on installing any.
[06:21] <smw> kfizz, I also tried lxde and fluxbox before settling on kde.
[06:21] <kfizz> I used lxde before on an older computer and it was okay, but seemed kinda "old"
[06:21] <pdq> kfizz, there are a bunch here http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/list-of-application-indicators
[06:21] <kfizz> Which I suppose is to be expected for a lightweight DE.
[06:22] <kfizz> pdq, I'm going to switch back to Unity and try some of those. Maybe I can force myself to liking it.
[06:23] <pdq> i much prefer gnome-shell to unity, more customizable. unity be more useable in 12.04 i think :)
[06:23] <MrBIOS> anybody here going to Ubuntu Developer Summit next week in Orlando?
[06:24] <smw> pdq, I think both are excellent ideas and I wish the best to them. But they destroyed classic gnome is the process!
[06:24] <smw> pdq, I have always wanted an explorer like interface where tabs are in a tree view on the left :-P.
[06:25] <smw> pdq, but for some reason everyone is trying to kill my taskbar!
[06:26] <pdq> smw there is a way of adding (extension) a bottom panel to gnome-shell that has task bar and workspace swicther
[06:26] <smw> pdq, can I also change how alt tab works?
[06:27] <pdq> smw i've used a docky type launcher rather than a task bar for long time. awn+dockbarx works great for me http://i.imgur.com/e1GbC.jpg
[06:28] <kfizz> Is there a special way to edit keyboard shortcuts. Keyboard -> Shortcuts isn't allowing me to edit any shortcuts.
[06:29] <pdq> smw, that i do not know, can't recall how alt tab works in latest unity :P push down to get the instances?
[06:29] <rasta1> holaaaaa
[06:29] <smw> pdq, I thought we were talking gnome shell lol
[06:30] <s0nee> pdq: i like the panels. how do you get that ?
[06:30] <pdq> ahh hehe, yep thats down arrow i rarely use alt tab hehe
[06:30] <s0nee> pdq: is it a custom awn theme ?
[06:31] <pdq> s0nee, edited one of the existing ones
[06:32] <pdq> and synapse is a great launcher to replace if used to gnome-do/unity dash, lightweight and fast
[06:33] <ia9371> hello world
[06:33] <s0nee> pdq: what about the panel at the top ?
[06:33] <yagoo> ia9371, main(){ echo hello}
[06:34] <kfizz> pdq, thanks for the panel suggestions.
[06:34] <pdq> s093294, it's the panel that comes with gnome-shell, added most of these http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/official-gnome-shell-extensions.html
[06:35] <s0nee> pdq: then whats the black default panel ... how do you change it ?
[06:37] <pdq> if you install gnome-shell themes, you can go into the themes folder themename/gnome-shell/gnome-shell.css and edit it in your text editor. has section for panel css
[06:38] <s0nee> pdq: ok thanks
[06:39] <erin> Well, can't say ubuntu 11.10 is unusable. However, i can say that I am no longer part of the target crowd. looks like I'll be trying other distros.
[06:39] <iskin> Is there away to adjust the Overscan thru HDMI? Or a package for AMD Catalyst control center?
[06:39] <pdq> s0nee, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1479239 there are quite a few things can tweak :)
[06:39] <pdq> thats just 1 example :P
[06:39] <kfizz> erin, I can agree with you, At least with respect to the user interface.
[06:39] <jasef> I love Wireshark
[06:40] <erin> It needs to mature more. I hope the changes arent a trap though.
[06:41] <kfizz> I just find the customization ability Ubuntu used to offer is no longer there.
[06:42] <kfizz> I can't even figure out how to change the order of the icons in the panel :/
[06:42] <erin> It looks like they are gearing it for tablet devices and the like. Unfortunately I have this gut feeling that the gnome team and canonical may be eyeballing the android ad or pay format eventually.
[06:42] <erin> The order can be changed if you grab then drag off the panel then place back in.
[06:43] <cheap_Scotsman> Evening (or otherwise) folks.
[06:44] <kfizz> I meant in the top panel...by the time, username and such.
[06:44] <pdq> in gnome-shell i think you can order them if edit the themes .js file but i haven't looked into it yet
[06:44] <cheap_Scotsman> Is anyone able to give me some advice on a ubuntu/Win7 dual boot on a blank, unformatted HDD?
[06:44] <yagoo> howdy-- RAID array size? << what does this refer to ? (the space size of all the RAID drives combined?)
[06:45] <erin> As far as I know, canonical and gnome have no intention of designing anything to allow for this. Furthermore it at least sounds like they will furiously fight against apps that will allow this customization.
[06:45] <kfizz> cheap_Scotsman, what advice are you looking for? I used to dual boot, might be able to steer you in the right direction.
[06:45] <kfizz> erin, agreed. I think I'll be trying out KDE even though I'm used to gnome.
[06:45] <erin> Install Win7 first, then ubuntu.
[06:46] <erin> Ubuntu automatically finds and adds entries for the win7 install.
[06:46] <cheap_Scotsman> kfizz, I have Ubuntu 11.04 loaded up off a DVD and booted with the new drive, I am in the partition screen and am finding myself lost as to how to partition for the dual boot
[06:46] <cheap_Scotsman> 640GB, and hearing mixed messages about whether I should get Win7 or Ubuntu installed first
[06:46] <erin> Do Win7 first.
[06:47] <cheap_Scotsman> Easier Erin??
[06:47] <kfizz> Yeah, as erin said, install Win7 first.
[06:47] <s0nee> cheap_Scotsman: win7 first
[06:47] <erin> Much
[06:47] <cheap_Scotsman> I was about to do the opposite, so that's good to know
[06:47] <retr0> cheap_Scotsman: do win7 first, but create a partition for it, and for / in ubuntu and for swap and that should be enough
[06:47] <erin> Otherwise Win7 will kill GRUB and not give you options for booting linux at all.
[06:47] <kfizz> Back in the XP days when I dual booted, I reformatted my windows partition and it rewrote the MBR and I couldn't boot into Ubuntu anymore. Ubuntu actually cares about other OS's present.
[06:48] <s0nee> cheap_Scotsman: also i recommend creating a seperate ntfs partition for data
[06:48] <erin> It has to. helps gain usership
[06:48] <erin> Agree s0nee
[06:48] <erin> Win7 will not recognize ext3 or ext4
[06:48] <cheap_Scotsman> thanks for the advice. I have an ISO student upgrade copy of 7 and a friend keeps insisting I can clean install it on the new drive without going through the 98>XP.7 process, is this doable?
[06:49] <erin> ntfs data drive is a help.
[06:49] <cheap_Scotsman> s0nee: ntfs being windows data, right? I am quite a noob in partitioning matters
[06:49] <urlin2u> cheap_Scotsman, if you have no other windows on there the key will not work without a small hack.
[06:49] <s0nee> cheap_Scotsman: yes
[06:49] <kfizz> yes, NTFS is the NT File System which Windows has used since NT onward.
[06:50] <Johnny_Giggles> I don't like Unity on 11.10.  How do I install and/use the standard GNOME desktop?
[06:50] <erin> You can in some cases. depending on the type of upgrade disk it is. But I never recommend an upgrade. Just torrent a complete Win7 ISO then download RemoveWAT.
[06:50] <urlin2u> cheap_Scotsman, if it is the upgrade key that is.
[06:50] <savid> Does anyone have oneiric running on a macbook pro 8 (early 2011)?
[06:50] <cheap_Scotsman> urlin2u, I have an XP CD, but it is also an upgrade... and I guess I'll need to install some ISO of 98 to install everything
[06:50] <kfizz> Johnny_Giggles, you won't be able to get exactly what the old gnome used to look like.
[06:50] <erin> You cant install gnome 2 anymore. Must be fallback for gnome 3. Still aint pretty.
[06:50] <cheap_Scotsman> urlin2u, yeah it's an upgrade key
[06:51] <Johnny_Giggles> Well can I at least get GNOME 3?
[06:51] <kfizz> Gnome 3 is already installed (I'm pretty sure)
[06:51] <erin> Just install 10.04. Still supported till 2015. At least by then maybe ubuntu will be mature.
[06:51] <kfizz> Log out, then at the log in screen click the settings icon and switch to Gnome 3
[06:51] <urlin2u> cheap_Scotsman, keep this link bookmarked. http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windows-7/clean-install-windows-7-with-upgrade-media
[06:52] <Johnny_Giggles> I have auto-login.  So I need to disable that right?
[06:52] <erin> you must install gnome system first. Just type GNOME into the ubuntu software center. It will be the first choice
[06:52] <kfizz> Johnny_Giggles, unless you restart, you should still be taken to the login screen if you log out. (This used to be the old behavior, however it may have changed as I don't have auto-login)
[06:52] <urlin2u> cheap_Scotsman, method 2 always gets me to a phone activation.
[06:53] <erin> No just install gnome from repos and reboot then log out select gnome classic and log back in.
[06:53] <cheap_Scotsman> urlin2u: Thanks. I imagine the hack option is beyond me but perhaps #1 will work.
[06:53] <Johnny_Giggles> erin: how do I do that?  I can't see GNOME in software center
[06:53] <erin> Not hard. Just install Win7 without key. Download RemoveWAT. Then run it.
[06:53] <s0nee> lol removeWAT is *legal
[06:54] <erin> Yes. WAT = Windows Activation Tool. Its separate software from the OS.
[06:54] <erin> It is this way for IT network installs\
[06:54] <kfizz> Johnny_Giggles, there are no entries for gnome in the software center?
[06:55] <erin> Hang on. Let me get there.
[06:55] <s0nee> Johnny_Giggles: gnome-shell for gnome3 or gnome-panel for gnome2
[06:55] <sebsebseb> erin: April 2013 for 10.04 on the desktop then support runs out
[06:55] <s0nee> !nounity | Johnny_Giggles
[06:55] <sebsebseb> !nounity | Johnny_Giggles
[06:56] <cheap_Scotsman> Does anyone know if Win7 locks down an old install if you use the smae code for a new one? I am looking to transfer files from my current drive to the new one, but am hoping to install win7 first given the advice
[06:56] <erin> RHEL has gnome 2 till 2018. Trust me. 10.04 gnome will have support. Just not canonicals
[06:56] <Johnny_Giggles> sebsebseb: you were beaten to it
[06:56] <cheap_Scotsman> and Im wondering if I use the key whether the previous install on my other drive will still be accessible
[06:56] <sebsebseb> Johnny_Giggles: yep
[06:56] <cheap_Scotsman> *able
[06:56] <sebsebseb> erin: no it will go end of life and that's it
[06:56] <erin> Instead of just Gnome in software center. Try GMOME Shell
[06:57] <sebsebseb> erin: a few distros will provide Gnome 2 or a fork though
[06:57] <sebsebseb> as long as they can
[06:57] <erin> Whatever you say.
[06:57] <yagoo> cheap_Scotsman, locks down code? i believe so.. i believe SLIC is still used in win7
[06:57] <yagoo> cheap_Scotsman, likely u have to reinstall.
[06:57] <erin> RHEL has backing and enough developement resources to keep it afloat.
[06:57] <yagoo> cheap_Scotsman, u should use the 'Easy transfer' to backup your stuff... then try use the Import feature later on
[06:58] <yagoo> cheap_Scotsman, u can install ubuntu after windows.. which is fine
[06:58] <iceroot> erin: they will replace it also, just a matter of time
[06:58] <yagoo> cheap_Scotsman, ubuntu install will make a boot menu entry for windows
[06:59] <erin> Time like....until 2015. Besides. 8.04 still gets updates for all kinds of things. Its a debian based distro.
[06:59] <cheap_Scotsman> yagoo, I hadnt even heard of easy transfer. Is it possible to use this for two HDDs in one system? My second system has yet to be built
[06:59] <sebsebseb> !8.04
[06:59] <erin> Not like canonical is the only developer for ubuntu.
[06:59] <iceroot> erin: 8.04 doesnt get any updates for the gui anymore
[06:59] <sebsebseb> erin: only server being supported for 8.04 now
[07:00] <kfizz> Has anyone here tried arch? I've been thinking about trying it.
[07:00] <erin> Like I said. Whatever you say.
[07:00] <pdq> plus everything is being developed for gtk3 gnome 3 etc. whois gonna develop stuff for gnome2?
[07:00] <sebsebseb> kfizz: quite  a lot of people have gone from Ubuntu to Arch apparantly
[07:00] <iceroot> erin: you have a support question? or just want to flame ubuntu/gnome?
[07:00] <cheap_Scotsman> yagoo: Essentially I have one drive with win7 heavily infected with trojans, and one empty drive. I want to salvage about 100gb from the first drive and make the second a win7/ubuntu dual boot.
[07:00] <pdq> i believe gnome-shell can be customized to suit peoples needs and resolve every shortcoming :) albeit the methods are somewhat hidden and not intuitive and require some googlin
[07:01] <erin> No retard. Im answering support questions. Have you been paying attention.
[07:01] <tripelb> Ubuntu liveCD  booted  to a black screen after choosing English. (I have an Intel MacBook) - I've been working on this for days and even with the Geniuses.
[07:01] <cheap_Scotsman> yagoo: With the first drive then being wiped and either XP or Ubuntu put on it
[07:01] <tripelb> I've asked this 3 times, noon, later and now.
[07:01] <iceroot> erin: for answering suport-questions its a good idea to but the nick of the person in front
[07:01] <erin> No mac installs.
[07:01] <sebsebseb> !language | erin
[07:02] <tripelb> erin what do you mean? the liveCD is supposed ot work on macs
[07:02] <erin> Nope...it does not.
[07:02] <iceroot> !mac | tripelb
[07:02] <tripelb> thanks
[07:02] <erin> Let me guess you mac has an apple processor?
[07:02] <iceroot> !who | erin
[07:04] <erin> ubottu: as you can see Im here to help. If you have a problem I suggest you keep it to yourself.
[07:04] <cordor> anyone know anything about ubuntu gateway internet sharing to a router?
[07:05] <erin> Good then you wont mind if I tell you to screw off.
[07:05] <Kaigeos> ubottu you're more intelligent then most chatters here.
[07:05] <iceroot> erin: stop it please
[07:05] <yagoo> omg
[07:06] <yagoo> lol
[07:06] <iceroot> erin: feel free to support others but please be more friendly
[07:06] <yagoo> some noob.
[07:06] <iceroot> yagoo: same for you
[07:06] <yagoo> iceroot, you're plain outright trolling now :p
[07:06] <yagoo> pff
[07:06] <erin> I will be as freindly as I can. However please dont interupt or interject with nonsense or flagrent disinfo pleae.
[07:06] <cheap_Scotsman> Yagoo, wise one, any advice for that situation?
[07:07] <iceroot> erin: reread the thing with !who
[07:07] <Kaigeos> anyway, has anyone sucessfully installed Mass Effect or Mass Effect 2? I've tried with both vanilla wine, and Playonlinux
[07:07] <erin> Why?
[07:07] <iceroot> !appdb | Kaigeos
[07:07] <iceroot> Kaigeos: have a look there about the needed settings
[07:08] <Kaigeos> iceroot that's not always entirely true. but I'll look. sometimes though, the appdb offers no help, list the app as garbage.
[07:08] <Kaigeos> but yet, someone gets it working.
[07:08] <iceroot> Kaigeos: in the commonts there are often steps for winetricks and so on
[07:08] <Kaigeos> rather, I'll look again
[07:09] <jasef> erin, When you're answering someone, it gets too confusing in this channel if you don't include their nick
[07:10] <erin> jasef: I am truly sorry. Unfortunately I am extremely lazy and dont really care.
[07:10] <Kaigeos> am happy to say though, found a native game I really like, Ryzom.. which has now made my migration from windows complete.
[07:11] <erin> Ryzom?
[07:11] <Kaigeos> MMORPG
[07:11] <Kaigeos> google it
[07:11] <jasef> erin, Lol. I get that :P just don't be annoyed if people don't  see what you're saying, it gets so confusing in here, and some people aren't reading the channel all the time, so saying their nick helps by highlighting them - my dash opens and shakes Xchat when someone mentions my nick
[07:11] <cheap_Scotsman> Yes he is trolling you.
[07:11] <Mortur> Hi, I have problems with Opera in Ubuntu 11.10. It seems like the "Alt" key is sent to Opera without me pressing it (opening the settings menu). This happens both on my pc at work and at home. I use Norwegian keyboard, any suggestions?
[07:12] <Kaigeos> Regnum isn't to bad either, and native
[07:12] <WyCKyD> I am in serious need of help if someone has a moment
[07:12] <sebsebseb> !ask | WyCKyD
[07:12] <erin> hmmmm. Ryzom.....You say its good.
[07:12] <Kaigeos> I like it.
[07:12] <cheap_Scotsman> The best.
[07:13] <erin> Wow....you actually realized I was talking to you?
[07:13] <erin> I didnt use your nick.
[07:13] <Kaigeos> yea, by topic
[07:13] <erin> So you are human...thank god
[07:13] <iceroot> erin: can you stop your trolling now please?
[07:13] <elky> erin, enough of the attitude, please read the guidelines listed in the topic
[07:13] <cheap_Scotsman> Second that.
[07:13] <cheap_Scotsman>  Noob advice required: I have one drive with win7 heavily infected with trojans, and one empty drive. I want to salvage about 100gb from the first drive and make the second a win7/ubuntu dual boot... Best method to transfer files and set up the dual boot?
[07:14] <kfizz> cheap_Scotsman, laptop or desktop?
[07:14] <cheap_Scotsman> kfizz: desktop
[07:14] <WyCKyD> Installed Ubuntu 11.10 3 days ago and I have a wireless adapter (Linksys AE1000 USB) I had it installed on 11.04 but when I try to install it, I get a message saying that make is not installed. I can't get make because the wifi is my only internet connection and don't have internet until I compile the linksys driver
[07:14] <cheap_Scotsman> kfizz: I have never partitioned for ubuntu or any dual boot before, which makes the considerations difficult
[07:14] <erin> Trolling?......I'll show you trolling you fucking twerps. Fuck off!!! NOW
[07:14] <iceroot> !ops | erin
[07:15] <jasef> !language | erin
[07:15] <kfizz> cheap_Scotsman, are you wanting to have an OS on each drive?
[07:15] <cheap_Scotsman> kfizz: Yes, though I will likely just go with XP or Ubuntu on the secondary (currently infected) drive, to avoid licensing hacks and so on.
[07:16] <jasef> elky, thanks :)
[07:16] <cheap_Scotsman> kfizz: I am mainly just concerned with setting up the new dual boot and retaining those files, and partitioning in such a way to do so
[07:16] <kfizz> cheap_Scotsman, I'd suggest this: Install Win7 then Ubuntu on the new drive, get it all up and going. Then, you can attach the second HDD and Ubuntu will (most likely) automatically mount it so you can get the files you need. Then you can format the second HDD and use it for another OS.
[07:17] <kfizz> On the drive you'll be dual-booting, are there files you need?
[07:17] <cheap_Scotsman> kfizz, no, the drive I'm dual booting is currently empty and unformatted
[07:18] <cheap_Scotsman> kfizz: I am rather clueless as to how to partition for Ubuntu, would just leaving some space free be fine for starters? I have a 640GB drive
[07:18] <ssfdre38> is there a better ssl cert doc to make self assign ssl certs
[07:18] <kfizz> cheap_Scotsman, I'd attach that HDD and install Win7.
[07:19] <kfizz> cheap_Scotsman, then once you have that set up, install Ubuntu. As for how much room you'll want for the Win7 partition is up to what you want to have on there.
[07:19] <kfizz> Do you plan on being on the Win7 partition a lot?
[07:19] <cheap_Scotsman> kfizz, alright, both HDDs are hooked up and recognized at the moment. I'll see if I can get this Win7 upgrade copy installed clean.
[07:19] <cheap_Scotsman> kfizz: But just in terms of setting up Win7, there is nothing special I need to consider before installing Ubuntu other than leaving free space?
[07:21] <kfizz> cheap_Scotsman, if you're using the live CD and you choose the "Use Free Space" (or whatever it is called -- should be similar) it will just install alongside Windows 7. Once you choose that option you'll get a fancy little slider bar that lets you adjust the size of each partition.
[07:21] <kfizz> Ubuntu will do the special partitioning of /, swap, etc.
[07:22] <jasef> kfizz, If I remember, it says 'Resize /dev/sd[a-z][\d]' and use freed space' or something close to that. At least it did last time I used the desktop installer.
[07:22] <cheap_Scotsman> kfizz: So there's no issue, essentially, in installing 7 without partition consideraitons, then installing ubuntu in over top and partitioning? For some reason I thought partitioning involved wiping the drive
[07:22] <s0nee> cheap_Scotsman: kfizz: also consider creating a ntfs partition for shared data
[07:22] <WanderingEnder> Does anyone have suggestions for a good Ubuntu Server tutorial on setting up Quality of Service?
[07:22] <madsailor> cheap_Scotsman, win7 will take the whole drive...there is no 'leaving free space'.  once it is installed you can shrink the windows partition from inside windows
[07:23] <cheap_Scotsman> madsailor: Thanks
[07:23] <madsailor> from my experience anyway
[07:23] <kfizz> cheap_Scotsman, partitioning doesn't format the whole drive unless you want it to.
[07:23] <cheap_Scotsman> kfizz: Perfect thanks. I'm going to see what luck I can have trying a clean install with my iso upgrade cd
[07:24] <cheap_Scotsman> likely little...but worth a shot
[07:24] <kfizz> cheap_Scotsman, partitioning takes the free space it sees on the drive then splits the drive in half(ish) and then specifies the second half of the drive as a different fruit from the first.
[07:24] <kfizz> Good luck.
[07:24] <jasef> madsailor, it takes the whole drive if you jsut tell it to install in unpartitioned space, but you can tell it to make a partiton to install in at whatever size you want.
[07:24] <cheap_Scotsman> kfizz: Im on a netbook so not logging off, but thanks for your help if you head out shortly
[07:25] <kfizz> cheap_Scotsman, I should be on here a little while longer if you have any other questions. I may have the window minimized tho, so mention my name if you need something.
[07:25] <cheap_Scotsman> jasef: This is why Im wondering if it's better to partition in advance for Ubuntu in a dual boot, but it sounds like it may not matter
[07:25] <cheap_Scotsman> kfizz, thanks.
[07:26] <jasef> cheap_Scotsman, It'll work either way, Ubuntu can resize your Windows partition if you want it too, no big deal. But if you wanted to leave free space you could just click 'new' in the window where Windows asks where to install and make it a partition with about half the space or however much you want, leaving the rest for Ubuntu to deal with. That being said, Ubuntu will handle it all for you if you want.
[07:26] <madsailor> jasef, good to know.  I bought a comp with win7 pre-installed and had to shrink the windows installation to make room for extra partitions.
[07:26] <Elunia> ciao a tutti
[07:26] <Elunia> !list
[07:27] <jasef> madsailor, Yeah, when you get it pre-installed it's like that. Well, my computer had like... 4 partitions when I got it
[07:28] <jasef> madsailor, Windows 7 (C:), ASUS recovery partition (hidden), an empty NTFS partition (D:) and an EFI System Partition in the last 16mb lol
[07:28] <s0nee> jasef: i thought you bought an used one lol
[07:28] <jasef> s0nee, huh? Why did you think that?
[07:29] <jasef> s0nee, Oh, the 4 partitions thing?
[07:29] <s0nee> jasef: sounded like the former owner partitioned the disk
[07:29] <s0nee> jasef: yea, normally there is only one or two partitions
[07:29] <jasef> s0nee, Ah. Funny thing is, I have 4 primary partitions and 1 secondary
[07:29] <jasef> s0nee, Not quite sure how that's working, because it's formatted with an MBR partitioning table.
[07:32] <madsailor> recovery partition, aka we're too cheap to include software CD's, so we'll just take up your hard drive space instead.
[07:33] <jasef> madsailor, no lol, this is a netbook, I don't have an optical drive
[07:33] <jasef> madsailor, I would be REALLY pissed if they just gave me a recovery DVD :P
[07:34] <xuser1> hi
[07:34] <s0nee> madsailor: jasef dont know why but when i installed windows on a blank hdd it automatically created a "reserved partition"
[07:34] <xuser1> what shortcut is used to capture mouse in last vmplayer version?
[07:34] <xuser1> :-D
[07:34] <jasef> s0nee, a 100MB partition?
[07:34] <cheap_Scotsman> Hmm it doesn't seem to be recognizing my win7 ISO CD
[07:34] <s0nee> madsailor: jasef but when i partitioned the hdd beforehand, then had windows installed on it, there was no reseved partition
[07:35] <antnash> Anyone know why I would have streaming problems with NFS? It gets quite jerky sometimes.
[07:35] <s0nee> jasef: yea
[07:35] <cheap_Scotsman> So now of course I can try an XP upgrade clean install hah...egh
[07:35] <yagoo> s0nee, thats' normal.. it's m$ you ask why not here
[07:35] <s0nee> yagoo: but when i partitioned the hdd beforehand, then had windows installed on it, there was no reseved partition
[07:35] <jasef> s0nee, If told to install on free space, it creates a 100MB partition to install the Windows boot files too, so that if later the user uses bitlocker (or upgrades to ultimate so they can), the system can boot with the main drive encrypted
[07:36] <madsailor> antnash,  server load or network lag perhaps?
[07:36] <yagoo> s0nee, you trying to fix a grub boot or not? i'm not here to explain m$ design
[07:36] <s0nee> yagoo: no, just trivial info
[07:36] <yagoo> s0nee, google
[07:36] <antnash> madsailor, I would say yes but it's fine with cifs.
[07:36] <xuser1> does anyone know what shortcut is used to capture mouse in last vmplayer pl;ayer version?
[07:36] <sunit> I am using  command demo@demo-laptop:~/svn$ svn co file://home/demo/svn/myproject for subversion and getting error svn: Unable to open an ra_local session to URL
[07:36] <sunit> svn: Local URL 'file://home/demo/svn/myproject' contains unsupported hostname
[07:37] <jasef> yagoo, tried being polite?
[07:37] <yagoo> jasef, yah.
[07:37] <jasef> !repeat | xuser1
[07:37] <yagoo> jasef, s0nee, #microsoft.
[07:37] <Sapyy> im having boot problems, i can only get into recovery mode atm. I installed ubuntu with some advanced boot options because i had pci problems. Does anyone know how i can solve these pci device problems?
[07:37] <xuser1> i resolved my 'problem'
[07:38] <xuser1> thank you
[07:38] <yagoo> Sapyy, usually pci devices dont cause problems.. unless there's irq-sharing problems..
[07:38] <madsailor> antnash, I have had no problems, and don't know of any outstanding issures w/nfs, but my experience and knowledge is very limited.  I know that it is possible to specify read/write size and (I think) caching, which might help
[07:39] <madsailor> try looking on the ubuntu support pages
[07:39] <Kartagis> hi
[07:40] <Sapyy> how can i tell if there's irq sharing problems
[07:40] <Kartagis> how do I edit a launcher's properties with unity?
[07:40] <ndlovu> does anyone know where mysql database files are located on ubunut?
[07:40] <ndlovu> (or ubuntu even)
[07:40] <Sapyy> yagoo, maybe you can take a look here: this is the thread i made, it's more specific with the error: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11405297#post11405297
[07:42] <tsaknorris> what i have to do with this new ubuntu if i want to automaticly boot up xfce side? now it always open unity. even i log off and choose xfce session and then boot.
[07:43] <Guest0302> hey
[07:44] <madsailor> ndlovu,  /var/lib/mysql is the default data dir I think
[07:45] <auronandace> tsaknorris: it should make xfce default. if you're never going to use unity again you might want to give xubuntu a try
[07:45] <Sapyy> im having boot problems, i can only get into recovery mode atm. I installed ubuntu with some advanced boot options because i had pci problems. Does anyone know how i can solve these pci device problems?
[07:45] <tsaknorris> auronandace, yeah it should :/ i want to keep unity still so i dont want to delete it :P
[07:48] <henrik__> Hello - have a special problem with plotter and ubuntu 11.04 - anyone knows about this
[07:50] <elvis2> upgraded to 11.10 and installed gnome-shell... now when there is some form of movement on the screen the screen flickers. other desktop themes work fine. any clues?
[07:50] <casey> I am using Ubuntu 10.10 and currently have Firefox 7. I am having touble opening PDFs within firefox if they are in a sepereate frame. However, if the PDF links to a new tab, I have no problem. Any ideas?
[07:50] <fatboy21007> i needs help!
[07:50] <fatboy21007> Ubuntu has kicked win 7 to the curb :-(
[07:50] <s0nee> !ask | fatboy21007
[07:51] <s0nee> fatboy21007: details ?
[07:52] <casey> patience | s0nee
[07:52] <casey> !patience | s0nee
[07:52] <engammalsko> Hi. I dualboot with windows and ubuntu and got an server on each os and I've also have an domain name. Thing is that linux and windows uses different ips (0.12 and 0.13). Is it bad to change them so they use the same ip?
[07:52] <tripelb> erin - the webpage asys ubuntu works on mac https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook2-1/Lucid (my mac model) I'll try something earlier than natti. This is just for the liveCD. iceroot, good link.
[07:52] <fatboy21007> Alright i did the manual install of all over ubuntu's 11.10 portitions, selected my windows HDD as the bootloader (before that it was the install drive for ubuntu) and after 10 installs and several trys, i have not been able to get he grub2 loader to appear so i can load back into windows 7
[07:52] <ndlovu> madsailor, thanks, that's what I needed!
[07:53] <tripelb> I want to read an ubuntu drive (with all my stuff on it) from a macbook 2.1
[07:53] <casey> I am using Ubuntu 10.10 and currently have Firefox 7. I am having touble opening PDFs within firefox if they are in a sepereate frame. However, if the PDF links to a new tab, I have no problem. Any ideas?
[07:53] <fatboy21007> and i tried to the update the grub with sudo update-grub, and it is NOT picking my windows 7 up at all but i do know its drive its sdb1
[07:54] <tripelb> I've nevef seen a pdf open in a frame, ever anywhere casey.
[07:54] <ndlovu> is it possible to edit a file as user www-data using gedit?
[07:54] <s0nee> fatboy21007: open up grub.cfg
[07:54] <crizzy> tripelb: try http://code.google.com/p/macfuse/
[07:54] <casey> tripelb: ever use college blackboard websites? Happens ALL the time lol. That being said, I really need it to work.
[07:55] <s0nee> FatherJack: are you using grub2 / 1.99 ?
[07:56] <fatboy21007> sorry i hit a wrong button!
[07:56] <dr_willis> engammalsko:  if you are dual booting - then it shouldent matter.
[07:56] <fatboy21007> Alright how do i get to the config file now?
[07:56] <fatboy21007> i got the terminal open
[07:58] <casey> I am using Ubuntu 10.10 and currently have Firefox 7. I am having touble opening PDFs within firefox if they are in a sepereate frame. However, if the PDF links to a new tab, I have no problem. Any ideas?
[07:59] <BlackDalek> help! What am I doing wrong? "cp /home/dalek/.mozilla /media/backup/.mozilla" gives "cp: omitting directory `/home/dalek/.mozilla'"... how do I make a copy of my .mozilla directory?
[07:59] <Fudge> anyway to memory test inside ubuntu
[08:00] <GriGi> Hi, i got problem with Ubuntu One on another PC. When i start Ubuntu One there and i want to login i got "method "createitem" with signature "a{sv}(oayay)b" on interface "org.freedesktop.Secret.Collection" doesn't exist"
[08:00] <drakkan1000> Hi, I'm running oneiric and I want to use libjpeg-turbo62 instead of libjpeg, I installed libjpeg-turbo62 and libjpeg-turbo-progs and they added some diversions, what is the "ubuntu" way to make the diversions the used version, I can manually change the links but I want do this in the "right" way, thanks
[08:01] <casey> i love my wife
[08:01] <wildc4rd> Good morning all, I am running 11.10, have installed gnome shell and the advanced gnome configuration tools, I still dislike Unity, how can I get back to proper Gnome?
[08:01] <BlackDalek> me too
[08:01] <mavez> i love your wife too
[08:01] <GriGi> it can be caused because of some problems during update from 11.04 to 11.10? I need to install some packets?
[08:01] <casey> yes. indeed
[08:01] <Fudge> lol casey
[08:01] <casey> How old is your wife??
[08:01] <mavez> BlackDalek ++
[08:01] <s0nee> wildc4rd: what do you mean by "proper" gnome ?
[08:01] <administrator__> WOW
[08:02] <Sapyy> im having boot problems, i can only get into recovery mode atm. I installed ubuntu with some advanced boot options because i had pci problems. Does anyone know how i can solve these pci device problems?
[08:02] <BlackDalek> help! What am I doing wrong? "cp /home/dalek/.mozilla /media/backup/.mozilla" gives "cp: omitting directory `/home/dalek/.mozilla'"... how do I make a copy of my .mozilla directory?
[08:02] <wildc4rd> s0nee: as it was I guess, lol, before Unity
[08:02] <fatboy21007> Is their a soulition to getting Ubuntu to pick up the windows 7 HDD, as it stands it will not do it, and i do not get a grub2 menu during boot
[08:02] <casey> I'm in here because I need help finding something for my wife for this christmas.. any ideas?
[08:02] <auronandace> !gnome2 | wildc4rd
[08:02] <s0nee> BlackDalek: "cp -R"
[08:02] <jasef> BlackDalek, cp -r
[08:02] <jasef> Oh... did I get the case wrong? :(
[08:02] <BlackDalek> thanks
[08:02] <tripelb> crizzy casey never used that. I have to reboot to try a different ubuntu disk/version. I'll be back.
[08:03] <casey> tripelb OK sounds great amigo.
[08:03] <s0nee> wildc4rd: then its gnome2. log out then click the "gear" icon, select gnome classic, then log back in
[08:03] <tripelb> crizzy nice colorful page. will try this. My goal is to read my ubuntu filesystem hard drive (from dead dell)
[08:03] <casey> I'm an apple person.
[08:03] <GriGi> anybody know what that UbuntuOne error mean? I really want to have UbuntuOne on that PC and i can't login :/
[08:03] <s0nee> wildc4rd: also gnome2 ("proper") is not supported anymore i believe. so get used to gnome3
[08:04] <casey> To fix your computer, just delete your hardrive and throw it out the window.
[08:04] <casey> problem solved.
[08:04] <fatboy21007> Does any1 have a solution to my problam?
[08:04] <tripelb> crizzy re macfuse I dont understand what it does. It's using some of the words related to what I want but I dont grok.
[08:04] <casey> Welcome Kaspi!
[08:05] <GriGi> casey, that's the way how windows should be repaired: format C:\
[08:05] <casey> I concur.
[08:05] <s0nee> fatboy21007: open up grub.cfg
[08:05] <kaspi> hey
[08:05] <crizzy> tripelb: it mounts filesystems
[08:05] <crizzy> tripelb: os x can't mount ext filesystems by default
[08:05] <casey> Medlin!
[08:05] <crizzy> tripelb: with it you can also remotely mount over ssh (like linux/gnome/kde can do natively)
[08:05] <tripelb> watching techtalk crizzy. that would be wonderful to read and write that disk. The 72G HD is full
[08:06] <almoxarife> fatboy21007: you want to recover win7?
[08:06] <casey> My headgear is messing with my router connection. Any tips on how to reduce this?
[08:06] <tripelb> I dont know what remote mount over ssh is, I can guess.  bbs
[08:06] <fatboy21007> i want to be able to load up windows 7 but i am unable to due to Unbuntu 11.10 not picking my win7 partition up
[08:06] <casey> I want to rock everyones body in here.
[08:06] <s0nee> fatboy21007: http://paste.ubuntu.com/722162/
[08:07] <semitones> if I install ubuntu in a vm, will windows handle all the power management stuff?
[08:07] <casey> It's time to go get some nooky from my wife. The erectile function I've been having these days will NOT slow me down. thumpty thump thump.
[08:07] <tripelb> crizzy, this is something that a developer can use they say.
[08:08] <linux> that is nice of you casey, go for it
[08:08] <crizzy> tripelb: remote mounting? yes.
[08:08] <crizzy> tripelb: or, something you could use for updating your homepage on remote server for example
[08:08] <casey> I'm about to mount my wife...does that count?
[08:08] <crizzy> tripelb: without using separate ftp client
[08:08] <jasef> casey, No. No it doesn't.
[08:09] <casey> Oh... ok jasef thank you.
[08:09] <kaspi> Guys, my Gnome is somehow messed up since there's Unity in the system. Specially I'm mad because of windows loosing their decoration. Also any window is being maximised with no matter if it's possible or not, which is breaking some Qt apps. Is it possible to fix that?
[08:09] <almoxarife> fatboy21007: you don't see the win7 partion on the grub menu?
[08:09] <casey> *waves my yogurt slinger around the room*
[08:09] <tripelb> Hey, I'm out of space. I'm looking to use my hard drive. I need to keep it simple. I've been on this for 3 days and been to the genius bar twice. I bought a USB kit last week.
[08:09] <tripelb> crizzy ^^
[08:09] <casey> I work at the genius bar and nothing about that place is genius.
[08:10] <casey> My wife is farting again...doesnt she know this ISNT helping my erectile issues??
[08:10] <jasef> casey, can we keep this channel family friendly please?
[08:10] <tripelb> casey haha, sorry you are going. it's been useful. just not on this one. I've learned a lot.
[08:10] <tripelb> casey, giggling helps.
[08:10] <casey> Farting happens in every family...so it's friendly right?
[08:10] <Sapyy> how do i write the at sign in ubuntu?
[08:11] <jasef> casey, it's the other talk that's not so family friendly :P
[08:11] <tripelb> sapyy uppercase 2
[08:11] <Sapyy> that makes this: "
[08:11] <tripelb> casey, you made us directile
[08:11] <casey> Oh my apologies! IF any 5 year olds are on here reading....i didn't mean it!!   :D
[08:11] <casey> :)
[08:12] <casey> What is directile??
[08:12] <tripelb> !ubuntu-offtopic
[08:12] <jasef> casey, lol. I dont think there's anyone here quite that young.
[08:12] <WanderingEnder> I could have sworn there's a !language trigger.
[08:12] <casey> Exactly. *smiles to himself*
[08:12] <casey> I stubbed my toe walking back to my computer and I feel that made me in such a giddy mood.
[08:13] <jasef> casey, that's still inappropriate for kids older than 5 lol.
[08:13] <jasef> WanderingEnder, there is. I just didn't feel like using it.
[08:13] <casey> Stubbing my toe?? man you guys are strict up in here!
[08:13] <zetheroo> in 11.10 I try to use the decimal key in calculator but it does not work anymore ... anyone know what's wrong?
[08:14] <jasef> casey, lol, you know exactly what I'm talking about lol
[08:14] <casey> *nudges your shoulder and smirks*
[08:14] <koymacz> HI
[08:14] <casey> RIDE that spicey chicken!
[08:14] <jasef> casey, lol, seriously?
[08:14] <casey> DOes that commercial annoy the crap out of anyone else or is it just me?
[08:15] <casey> !patience Jasef
[08:15] <almoxarife> why don't you two take to fu......king PM!
[08:15] <jasef> It's !trigger | name, but nope, never seen that commercial
[08:15] <almoxarife> annoyed now?
[08:16] <jasef> !language | almoxarife
[08:16] <casey> watch the language!|
[08:16] <jasef> :)
[08:16] <casey> not family appropriate
[08:16] <almoxarife> jasef: was that a question?
[08:16] <casey> !patience |  almoxarife
[08:17] <casey> It's a jack in the box commercial...it's rather annoying.
[08:17] <jasef> almoxarife, No. It wasn't, it was a trigger to have the bot tell you not to swear.
[08:17] <tripelb> casey cizzy how am I going to be able to use this? This google tech toalk is of no help. MacFUSE implements a mechanism that makes it possible to implement a fully functional file system in a user-space program on Mac OS X. It aims to be API-compliant with the FUSE (File System in User Space) mechanism that originated on Linux. Therefore, many existing FUSE file systems become rather easily usable on Mac OS X. The core of MacFUSE is in
[08:17] <tripelb> a dynamically loadable kernel extension and the FUSE user-space library and headers.
[08:18] <jasef> tripelb, that means "you can use more file systems than before in mac"
[08:18] <almoxarife> jasef: you need to review the rules, your idle banter with the other nick must be covered somewhere in it, thnks
[08:18] <casey> banter?
[08:18] <casey> GOOD day' mate.
[08:18] <casey> *giggles in the corner*
[08:18] <jasef> almoxarife, doesn't give you the right to break any rules. And the source of my 'idle banter' was casey talking about 'mounting his wife' and 'erectile issues', so go read the rules yourself.
[08:18] <tripelb> jasef, how come I dont get that from their words. But I am installing it. almost done.
[08:18] <casey> SHHHHHH don't say it to EVERYONE gosh...
[08:19] <jasef> tripelb, Mostly because they like saying stuff that makes geeks go "oooh" and "ahhh", while making everyone go "O_o what?"
[08:19] <tripelb> jasef is right. mostly "they" crack down on any non-tech talk and send us to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:19] <zetheroo> n 11.10 I try to use the decimal key in calculator but it does not work anymore ... anyone know what's wrong?
[08:19] <tripelb> <-somewhere inbetween geek and gawker
[08:21] <casey> WELL im sleepy so I'm off to rub my wifes...OH sorry.
[08:21] <casey> good day!
[08:22] <jasef> Any other rules I'm somehow breaking that I should be called out on?
[08:22] <WanderingEnder> !rules
[08:23] <jasef> O.o? Why that trigger?
[08:23] <ziga_> hello
[08:24] <tripelb> you asked for rules jasef and !ubottu is fun
[08:24] <ziga_> can anyone advise me how to enable 5.1 sound in Xubuntu?
[08:24] <tlm> Weird can't get sound out of either the speakers or headphone jack on an Acer Travelmate 2413LCi, LSHW = http://pastebin.com/dT4aHNbk I found it junked, replaced the Broadcom wifi with an Intel card, oddly, the ethernet jack also doesn't work, not recognized by the router.
[08:24] <leo2007> what's the program to manage servers such as sshd?
[08:24] <jasef> tripelb, lol, yeah, but I didnt ask for a list of rules
[08:24] <jasef> You mean to connect to sshd?
[08:24] <jasef> O-o
[08:25] <jasef> Or to manage the services in ubuntu, like telling them to restart?
[08:25] <leo2007> jasef: the latter
[08:26] <jasef> leo2007, sudo service ssh restart
[08:26] <WanderingEnder> jasef: You asked if there were any other rules, there's the rules, if you find one you're breaking, then you know to stop it. If you aren't breaking any, then don't worry about it.
[08:26] <jasef> WanderingEnder, lol okay. I was actually just being sarcastic.
[08:35] <leo2007> jasef: Is there GUI for configuring it and other services?
[08:35] <leo2007> I had one when using redhat.
[08:36] <jasef> leo2007, Not really sure, never come across one, but never looked either. I gotta go eat though, so I'll cya later. I hope you can find what you want.
[08:43] <opticlove> 10.04 or 11.10
[08:44] <leo2007> I am using 11.10 how long is this system supported?
[08:44] <jakob|> trying to use my standard programs in unity, eclipse, gimp, etc, wow it works like a charm! not.
[08:44] <leo2007> ie with security updates
[08:44] <bazhang> opticlove, thats not a support question
[08:44] <bazhang> leo2007, 18 months
[08:45] <WanderingEnder> When nicing a program, 16 is highest priority or lowest priority?
[08:45] <bazhang> leo2007, normally LTS is 3 years desktop , 5 years server, but 12.04 will be five for desktop as well
[08:45] <BadDesign> Anyone knows why the phuck OpenJDK7 JRE depends on OpenJDK6 ?
[08:45] <tlm> Weird can't get sound out of either the speakers or headphone jack on an Acer Travelmate 2413LCi, LSHW = http://pastebin.com/dT4aHNbk I found it junked, replaced the Broadcom wifi with an Intel card, oddly, the ethernet jack also doesn't work, not recognized by the router.
[08:46] <jasef> !language | BadDesign
[08:46] <leo2007> bazhang: that's even shorter than fedora.
[08:47] <leo2007> I have been a long time fedora user.
[08:48] <sqrl_gk> hi
[08:48] <nesoi> hello, I have a dell xpsm1330 and it was working fine with the previous version of ubutu, but I upgraded recently and now the trackpad freezes regularly and I have to reboot it. Is there something I can do to fix this?
[08:49] <sqrl_gk> how to download project from groundcontrol?
[08:51] <datruth> http://pastebin.com/GkSRJf7x <-- is this an indication I am low on RAM?
[08:52] <jasef> datruth, You have 9mb available
[08:52] <datruth> ouch
[08:52] <datruth> how can I tell whats usisg up the ram?
[08:52] <llutz> datruth: 82512 (84MB) available
[08:53] <robinsch> Hi, I want a way in Ubuntu 11.10 to disable compiz-fusion when the application Playonlinux launches. I believe that this will fix lag that I get when playing games. Thanks.
[08:53] <llutz> 80*
[08:53] <jasef> llutz, But that's under +/- buffers/cache, is that the real figure?
[08:53] <datruth> llutz: i ask because I have procs that fail to fork :(
[08:54] <llutz> jasef: yes
[08:54] <Guest95942> how can i create a launcher of a disk partition on gnome 3 desktop?how can i create a launcher of a disk partition on gnome 3 desktop?how can i create a launcher of a disk partition on gnome 3 desktop?
[08:54] <lgp171188> Hi I have a Authentec fingerprint reader in my HP Pavilion laptop. I enabled fingerprint authentication in previous releases by installing the fprint utilities and libs and installing the aes driver for the same and enabling fingerprint authentication by adding "auth sufficient pam_fprint.so" to common-auth file. I tried to do the same in Oneiric, but there is no prompt for fingerprint authentication? Is this an issue with a move to Gnome 3x?
[08:55] <datruth> i thought top would tell me but I'm not able to detect whats eating up the memory
[08:55] <jasef> Hm....  anyone happen to know why my `top` is only displaying 509264k RAM total?
[08:58] <llutz> datruth: ps -ef --sort -pmem |head -10
[08:59] <iceroot> jasef: free -m
[08:59] <iceroot> jasef: but normally top is doing that because you dont have more ram
[08:59] <jasef> Reports 497MB.
[08:59] <jasef> But I have 2GB
[08:59] <jasef> Gnome System Monitor reports 2gb as well
[08:59] <iceroot> jasef: cat /proc/meminfo
[09:00] <llutz> jasef: vmstat -s
[09:00] <jasef> iceroot, lists total as 509264k, llutz your command lists the same
[09:00] <iceroot> jasef: then you only have that much
[09:01] <jasef> iceroot, I have 2gb though.
[09:01] <iceroot> jasef: are you sure you are not connected with ssh to another host ans asking that host instead of your system?
[09:01] <llutz> not recognized though
[09:01] <jasef> iceroot, ... ... ....... I feel... so... stupid.
[09:01] <iceroot> jasef: lol
[09:01] <racho> lol :)
[09:01] <iceroot> that is an epic one :)
[09:01] <jasef> iceroot, it's the system sitting behind me >.> it's being so quiet I forgot about it
[09:02] <karim_> How is Zenix compared to Ubuntu?
[09:03] <llutz> jasef: make your hostnames in prompts better readable, colorful
[09:03] <bazhang> karim_, what is zenix
[09:03] <jasef> llutz, it is colorful, I just somehow didn't read it.
[09:03] <lgp171188> Hi, I have a peculiar problem with my oneiric installation. Even if my desktop is idle for a couple of seconds, the desktop starts dimming and tries to lock the screen. This happens even when all the corresponding settings have been disabled. The work around that I am using now is to rename the gnome-screensaver binary, but the obvious side effect is that I am unable to use the lock screen functionality. Could it be a bug?
[09:04] <iceroot> lgp171188: latest updates? because that bug was fixed some weeks ago
[09:04] <jasef> llutz, I suppose my hostnames are kinda similiar, dionysus and theseus
[09:04] <karim_> Zenix is wonderful.
[09:04] <iceroot> karim_: and offtopic
[09:04] <lgp171188> iceroot: Ah, I didn't check. Let me try restoring the screensaver binary to its proper name and see if it is fixed. Thank you :-)
[09:05] <datruth> thx llutz
[09:05] <FrankAnders-> Hi
[09:06] <s0nee> FrankAnders-: hi
[09:06] <lgp171188> iceroot: Doesn't fix it for me.
[09:06] <FrankAnders-> I have tried to install Ubuntu on my MacBook pro a couple of times now... And everything goes well during the installation. Running the Live-CD is also fine... But every time I try to boot it after I've installed it I end up with this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5301517/Android/IMG_20111028_231255.jpg
[09:06] <tripelb> hello Mac fiend here. 9.04 booted (I did F4 for safe graphics) why couldnt someone have suggested that instead of angry, It wont work. Eh, I dont even remember who that was.  --- But It cant WRITE to my hard drive. How can I do that? Can I sign in even though I'm not booted up from that drive? Can I boot up from that partition on the Hard drive? Nah, mac didnt see that when I asked to see "all bootable partitions."
[09:06] <iceroot> lgp171188: cant find the bug atm but please have a look at launchpad and post on that bug that is still affecting you
[09:07] <tripelb> I need to sleep you have my suggestion to PM me so that I can see it in the morning.
[09:07] <tripelb> l8r
[09:07] <iceroot> tripelb: 9.04 is out of support
[09:08] <tripelb> it's the same question. It's nothing wrong with 9.04, I want to know how to get permission to wrote on a USB drive. I know the password for the account. I dont know how to do it.
[09:08] <lgp171188> iceroot: Still if I leave the desktop idle a few seconds, the screen starts dimming. Is there someway to clear the user gnome settings and try?
[09:08] <d3vi115> hello
[09:09] <iceroot> tripelb: usb-drive? account? what?
[09:09] <tripelb> 10.04 ia just the same. I had the same problem. I couldnt write on the external drive.
[09:09] <iceroot> tripelb: what filesystem?
[09:10] <tripelb> iceroot you dont know what a USB connected hard drive is? sorry I'm tired. The data on the ubuntu partiton is in ht eaccount in a home folder and I dont have permission. I assume the way to get them is to sign into the account. I could be wrong.
[09:10] <FrankAnders-> When installing on a macbook... Where do I place the bootloader files?
[09:11] <FrankAnders-> Ehm... /dev/sda or somewhere else?
[09:11] <tripelb> iceroot, when I am booted on ubuntu I cannot write on a filesystem on another drive. I have had that problem with IDE drive just the same in the past. I never solved it.
[09:11] <iceroot> tripelb: i asked what filesystem you are mounting because you said you cant write on that drive
[09:11] <tripelb> it's ext4. It's a 10.04 volume iceroot
[09:11] <iceroot> tripelb: i doesnt matter if it is usb, ide, sata, firewire, just the filesystem is important
[09:12] <iceroot> tripelb: what is the output of "mount"
[09:12] <iceroot> tripelb: also what drive in the outout is the affected one?
[09:12] <iceroot> output
[09:12] <tripelb> iceroot, so I am discovering. It's whatever 10.04 naturally does. -- I dont know anything about "the output of mount"  I-- I dont know what you mean by "drive in the output"
[09:13] <tripelb> when I boot up it shows both partions on the USB drive, the nautilus windows just pop up iceroot
[09:13] <iceroot> tripelb: open a terminal and type in "mount"
[09:13] <iceroot> tripelb: that output i need
[09:13] <iceroot> !paste | tripelb
[09:13] <tripelb> I'm back on the mac now.
[09:14] <tripelb> I cant get online with the ubuntu iceroot, it's wireless and it's a big deal to enable ie I dontknow how.
[09:15] <iceroot> tripelb: then put in here only the lines beginning with /dev/
[09:15] <tripelb> iceroot what kind of things would you expect to find in mount. OK will try
[09:15] <iceroot> tripelb: imporant is, if there is "rw" in that line
[09:17] <tripelb> iceroot, the mac cant see the ext4 drive. I cant get online except in the mac os.
[09:17] <tripelb> I may have lied.
[09:17] <iceroot> tripelb: i thought the problem is that you cant write on it, now you say you cant see the drive?
[09:17] <iceroot> tripelb: so what is the issue? missing write-persmissions or missing drive?
[09:18] <lgp171188> iceroot: Any clues which package could be having the issue? Gnome-power-manager?
[09:19] <tripelb> iceroot, again. I want to be able to write on the drive. since I am not signed in as that user I cant. Am I wrong? -- I have had that happen in the past. I can read and write on NTFS drives from ubuntu. I can read only from a users section of a ext4 partition, or ext3.
[09:20] <jasef> If you're sudo'd you can read/write to any file on it.
[09:20] <iceroot> jasef: dont suggest that
[09:20] <tripelb> iceroot, i cant mount an ext4 in the macos. In the ubuntu os it is automagicly there.
[09:20] <iceroot> tripelb: macos i dont care
[09:20] <tripelb> jasef, ok
[09:20] <iceroot> tripelb: so the problem is
[09:20] <tripelb> so I will next time i boot up. thanks jasef
[09:20] <tripelb> good night it's after 2 here
[09:21] <iceroot> tripelb: you plug in your drive inside an ubuntu session? with that user logged in you can write on it, with another user you cant while the drive is stilled mounted from ubuntu with another user?
[09:21] <jasef> I think his issue is that there's an ubuntu installation ON the drive, and he wants to write to the /home/whatever folder of it
[09:22] <iceroot> jasef: maybe
[09:23] <iceroot> lgp171188: sorry cant find the bug anymore but i know it was not gnome-power-manager and not gnome-screensaver
[09:23] <chetnick> hello, can anyone pastebin elinks.conf (elinks text web browser)
[09:24] <iceroot> chetnick: the default one?
[09:24] <chetnick> iceroot: yes.
[09:24] <iceroot> chetnick: apt-get source elinks
[09:24] <iceroot> chetnick: which contains the default config
[09:24] <chetnick> iceroot: I don't have Ubunut handy atm.
[09:24] <lgp171188> iceroot: Ok, even I believe the bug is somewhere else and it is causing the gnome-screensaver to get activated automatically. When I tried to find the parent process using ps, init is the parent process :(
[09:25] <iceroot> chetnick: even without ubuntu you can donwload the source-package but i will have a look and paste it to you
[09:26] <jasef> chetnick, http://paste.ubuntu.com/722192/
[09:26] <chetnick> jasef: thanks.
[09:26] <jasef> Lol... it cant load hotmail :(
[09:29] <iceroot> lgp171188: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/863038
[09:29] <amithkk> floodbots?
[09:29] <amithkk> ubottu: hi
[09:29] <dr_willis> !bot
[09:30] <iceroot> lgp171188: gnome-session and gnome-control-center are the affected packages
[09:31] <rkpisanu> hi
[09:31] <rkpisanu> i overwritten /etc/apt/sources.list in oneric. Can I restore it ?
[09:32] <iceroot> rkpisanu: open the softwarecenter/synaptic and reenable the repos/settings oyu want
[09:32] <npc1> I seem to have broken GTK while changing options around in compiz (in U11.10). How can I get everything back?
[09:33] <rkpisanu> thanks
[09:33] <dr_willis> rkpisanu:  theres a source list generator at --> http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php   also
[09:33] <lgp171188> iceroot: Thank you for showing me the bug. Looks like it is the exact bug and the fix doesn't work for me. I will respond to the bug report and request it to be reopened.
[09:33] <iceroot> lgp171188: great
[09:33] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html  and reset compiz....
[09:34] <iceroot> lgp171188: you are on 11.10 with latest updates?
[09:34] <dr_willis> to reset compiz --> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1
[09:34] <iceroot> rkpisanu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/722195/
[09:35] <rkpisanu> many thanks iceroot  :)
[09:36] <npc1> dr_willis thanks man I'm trying now
[09:37] <dr_willis> Unity settings are differnt then the compiz settings.. differnt ways to reset them. see the url above
[09:38] <arestod> Anyone know who to cd to a directory that starts with "-" ?
[09:38] <dr_willis> arestod:  cd '-foo'
[09:38] <iceroot> arestod: cd "-dir" or cd \-dir
[09:38] <dr_willis> or escape the - with a \
[09:39] <almoxarife> dr_willis: so, why would nautilus-wallpaper be one of the only plugins to not work in 11.10, any thoughts?
[09:39] <npc1> dr_willis after I typed in that command the terminal thought about it and then did nothing...
[09:39] <dr_willis> quoteing the special charcaters or escapeing it is the trick
[09:39] <dr_willis> npc1:  clarify what you are trying to do and what you did exactly.
[09:39] <arestod> for example cd - Downloads -
[09:39] <arestod> It trying to find a flag because of the "-"
[09:39] <iceroot> the real trick is to avoid directories starting with "-"
[09:40] <dr_willis> cd  '- Downloads -'
[09:40] <npc1> dr_willis one moment, I will read this page you sent me a bit
[09:40] <iceroot> arestod: cd "- Download -" or cd \-\ Downloads\ \-
[09:40] <llutz> cd -- <dirname>
[09:40] <arestod> I've tried cd "- Downloads" aswell as cd "-\ Downloads\ -"
[09:40] <arestod> None of which work
[09:40] <dr_willis> -- is the 3rd way :)
[09:40] <dr_willis> arestod:  try single quotes
[09:40] <dr_willis> or the --  method.
[09:40] <dr_willis> anything after a --  does not get parsed.. normally.
[09:40] <iceroot> llutz: but that is bash-specific? -- means to no read something as a parmater after it?
[09:41] <dr_willis> I belive its a bash/sh  specific feature.
[09:41] <llutz> iceroot: afaik its not bash
[09:41] <iceroot> let me try on ksh
[09:41] <dr_willis> other shells may do it the same way. :)
[09:42] <iceroot> hm ok, ksh93 can do it also
[09:42] <ravn1> people: how do I get back the menu-row in top of the windows instead of on top of the screen in new ubuntu?
[09:43] <arestod> dr_willis, Thanky you. The -- method worked :)
[09:43] <dr_willis> arestod:  single quotes not " should work also
[09:43] <npc1> dr_willis it seems unity --reset made the screen flash a bit but then I get erros "compiz (core) failed to receive configurenotify event [...]"
[09:43] <dr_willis> ravn1:  disable the 'global menu' feature. -
[09:44] <ravn1>  dr_willis: ah, great! how do I do that?
[09:44] <arestod> dr_willis, Nope single quotes didn't work
[09:44] <dr_willis> npc1:  if you reset both. you may want to log out and see if it works on the next login. or make a new user
[09:44] <dr_willis> arestod:  weird. ive used single quotes here for identical sitiatuons
[09:44] <uczen> hey
[09:45] <arestod> dr_willis, Yea I guess I did something wrong
[09:45] <Shubuntu> hey guys in shell how do i run a program without locking the shell prompt? i saw it once but i don't remember how
[09:45] <iceroot> Shubuntu: command&
[09:45] <dr_willis> bash completion uses ' and fails.. interesting...
[09:45] <Shubuntu> thanks
[09:45] <FrankAnders-> Anyone here sucessfully installed Ubuntu on a mac?
[09:45] <iceroot> Shubuntu: to put it in the background, write "fg" to put it in the foreground
[09:45] <arestod> Another question, I chmod a file to 744 and the promt says okay, but when I try to check it with ls -l it's still onlw rw. Any idea why ?
[09:45] <iceroot> !mac | FrankAnders-
[09:46] <dr_willis> arestod:  seems somthign changed in how its handeling  the quotes.
[09:46] <arestod> Do I need to be root ?
[09:46] <iceroot> arestod: you need write-permissions to that file to change the permissions
[09:46] <dr_willis> bash tab completion suggests ---->  $ rmdir '- foo -'/
[09:46] <FrankAnders-> I've done it... And but I get this weird messages http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5301517/Android/IMG_20111029_113556.jpg
[09:46] <dr_willis> arestod:  where is the file at? what Fs?
[09:47] <Linuxlainen> hi all, any idea what is polkit-auth equivalent command on ubuntu 11.10
[09:47] <arestod>  iceroot, But I had rw permissions to start with
[09:47] <arestod> iceroot, Isn't that enough ?
[09:47] <llutz> iceroot: iirc "--" is recognized by most commands (not only shell-builtins) as "no more options to follow" and not related to a shell
[09:47] <arestod> Fs ? It's on a mounted NTFS disk
[09:48] <dr_willis> arestod:  you dont chown/chmod stuff on ntfs or vfat
[09:48] <Linuxlainen> I have installed pm-utils, but the command is still not found ;(
[09:48] <iceroot> llutz: but the feature comes from the shell and not the commands?
[09:48] <dr_willis> thats why :)
[09:48] <llutz> iceroot: no
[09:48] <arestod> dr_willis, Oh I though chmod was fs independent
[09:48] <iceroot> llutz: hm then quoting is much better
[09:48] <dr_willis> arestod:  it definatly is NOT..
[09:48] <arestod> dr_willis, What do you know :P Is there a utility for it ?
[09:48] <dr_willis> ntfs/vfat does not support the features.. so it cant.
[09:48] <iceroot> llutz: but the best is to avoid such strange names
[09:49] <llutz> iceroot: very true
[09:49] <dr_willis> arestod:  you set options at mount time for ntfs/vfat.
[09:49] <arestod> Oh okay, thank you :)=
[09:50] <npc1> dr_willis everything is fine as a guest, is there a way to restore my regular login to the same point? it bugs me to loose my main login/
[09:51] <Linuxlainen> anyone?
[09:53] <Amirh> hi, I want to use a cli torrent client but I don't know how to configure it.
[09:53] <arestod> I had a feeling just running steam from another disk without installing it in Wine wouldn't work. Has anyone succeeded in doing that ?
[09:53] <Amirh> can anyone help me with this?
[09:54] <bazhang> Amirh, rtorrent?
[09:54] <llutz> Amirh: http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/05/02/howto-use-rtorrent-like-a-pro/
[09:54] <Amirh> bazhang: no, deluge-cli or transmission-cli
[09:54] <bazhang> Amirh, check llutz link for a real cli torrent client
[09:54] <nesoi> hello, I have a dell xpsm1330 and it was working fine with the previous version of ubutu, but I upgraded recently and now the trackpad freezes regularly and I have to reboot it. Is there something I can do to fix this?
[09:54] <iceroot> arestod: working fine
[09:55] <arestod> iceroot,  It is ?
[09:55] <arestod> iceroot,  Cuz Wine seg faulted when I tried
[09:55] <Amirh> bazhang: it's banned in my country so I had to find a vpn to bypass and visit wordpress
[09:55] <iceroot> arestod: i am using steam and wow with that setup, installed on a ntfs-drive, just mounted in ubuntu and starting the exe
[09:55] <Amirh> bazhang: which I don't have any atm
[09:55] <arestod> iceroot, Oh man I would love if that worked :P
[09:55] <Amirh> llutz: tnx
[09:56] <nesoi> amirh, what's banned in which country?
[09:56] <iceroot> arestod: so general that is not a problem doing that
[09:56] <arestod> I just get this: sudo aptitude install nautilus-open-terminal
[09:56] <arestod> this*
[09:56] <arestod> fixme:process:SetProcessShutdownParameters (00000100, 00000000): partial stub.
[09:56] <arestod> Segmentation fault
[09:56] <Amirh> nesoi: wordpress.com
[09:56] <FloodBot1> arestod: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:56] <nesoi> what country bans wordpress?
[09:56] <iceroot> arestod: #winehq  have a look there
[09:57] <iceroot> nesoi: china e.g. blocks amyn sites
[09:57] <arestod> iceroot, I found a thread on the forums. Thanks for the help anyways :)
[09:57] <nesoi> so no one knows: , I have a dell xpsm1330 and it was working fine with the previous version of ubutu, but I upgraded recently and now the trackpad freezes regularly and I have to reboot it. Is there something I can do to fix this?
[09:57] <Amirh> nesoi: Iran
[09:57] <nesoi> that sucks
[09:58] <nesoi> I hope things change and I can visit Iran. I hear it's beautiful
[09:58] <Linuxlainen> hi, any idea how can I run polkit-auth command on ubuntu 11.10? it keep on giving me command not found
[09:58] <lgp171188> nesoi: Not sure if it is a similar issue, but I remove the psmouse module and insert it again and then it works. No need to reboot
[09:58] <Amirh> nesoi: have no idea. lol
[09:58] <nesoi> lgp171188: thanks! how do I do that?
[09:59] <lgp171188> nesoi: sudo modprobe -r psmouse && sudo modprobe psmouse proto=imps
[10:00] <nesoi> does that work until reboot lgp171188 or forever?
[10:01] <lgp171188> nesoi: that works fine for me. The trackpad freezing is random for me though.
[10:01] <Linuxlainen> does anyone know anything about polkit-auth in here?
[10:01] <Amirh> bazhang: I just entered the address to the torrent file. it accepted it but seems it's inactive
[10:01] <nesoi> Amirh: I heard that most iranians are not fundamentilists, and are really about poetry and having fun
[10:01] <oCean> nesoi: please stay on topic
[10:02] <Amirh> nesoi: yeah. only 5% of the country are fundamentilist and most of them are not extremist also
[10:02] <nesoi> what does  sudo modprobe -r psmouse && sudo modprobe psmouse proto=imps do?
[10:03] <s0nee> Amirh: maybe register a free shell online, access it then run a text based browser from there ?
[10:03] <nesoi> where do u get a free shell?
[10:03] <Amirh> s0nee: to bypass?
[10:04] <s0nee> Amirh: i guess. youre not accessing directly that way
[10:04] <nesoi> information wants to be free! :)
[10:04] <Amirh> I will solve that problem. I just wanted to learn how to use cli to dl a torrent in my rest time. now I have to get back to refactoring.
[10:04] <Amirh> thanks all
[10:04] <s0nee> nesoi: Amirh: however
[10:05] <nesoi> s0nee: ?
[10:05] <s0nee> nesoi: Amirh: be careful with free shell because you cant trust roots of the machines
[10:05] <amee2k> morning everyone :)
[10:05] <nesoi> so anyone
[10:05] <nesoi> what does  sudo modprobe -r psmouse && sudo modprobe psmouse proto=imps do?
[10:05] <driekusje> afternoon
[10:05] <Amirh> ok, sure. bye
[10:06] <amee2k> i've got a box running 11.4 with corrupted root file system. how do i boot into a recovery mode that does not attempt to mount it?
[10:06] <llutz> nesoi: itreloads and tells psmouse-module to use imps-protocol
[10:06] <amee2k> the regular "recovery mode" entry in grub crashes on boot because it can't locate /bin/sh
[10:10] <iceroot> amee2k: live-cd
[10:11] <amee2k> gonna take a while because i don't have one handy
[10:12] <amee2k> if i get one, does apt have a way to like "reinstall everything"?
[10:12] <amee2k> i've allready run fsck on the file system, so there is no low level damage. just that the fsck run cleared a lot of corrupted inodes
[10:22] <srikanth> i just installed ubuntu 11.10. when I enter a session, the unity menu is not available. whats available is the File, Edit, etc. menu for nautilus. what is wrong?
[10:22] <xubu-jantteri> rsync - bullet proof instructions how to sync 2 local folders, so after rsync they match 1:1 ? me, never used the rsync before, so afraid I will mess up with something..
[10:24] <sajimon> xubu-jantteri: im not a rsync master too, but rsync -avz /src /dst should do it
[10:24] <Linuxlainen> it could be you are running it on old HW
[10:24] <Linuxlainen> srikanth: what HW u have
[10:25] <xubu-jantteri> sajimon: -avz will sync files both ways?
[10:25] <sajimon> no, its will clone src dir to dst
[10:26] <amee2k> i used to prefer unison over rsync
[10:26] <amee2k> last time i checked it still worked fine but was unmaintained for some reason
[10:26] <srikanth> Linuxlainen, i have core i5 proc, 4GB RAM, nvidia gt240 card
 OK, it is not the HW for sure
[10:27] <s0nee> srikanth: do you have proprietary graphic driver installed {
[10:27] <xubu-jantteri> sajimon: what I need is to sync 2 local folders, both have some files already so I don't want to lose any of these
[10:28] <srikanth> s0nee, you mean nvidia-current, etc. I did install them. First the session refused to start. So, I ran it in recovery mode and installed the drivers
[10:29] <Sidewinder1> xubu-jantteri, If you've never used rsync, you might check into grsync, it's a GUI front-end for rsync and is in the repos, I believe.
[10:29] <s0nee> srikanth: can you describe the problem more specifically ? are you in fallback mode ?
[10:29] <xubu-jantteri> Sidewinder1: I need to use this from command line, trying to sync folder on Ubuntu Server with an external usb hard drive
[10:30] <Sidewinder1> OIC.
[10:30] <xubu-jantteri> Sidewinder1: so kinda syncing and after folders are synced, I could start having a proper backup on the usb drive :)
[10:31] <Sidewinder1> xubu-jantteri, Wish I could help but I'm horrible with CLI syntax. :-(
[10:31] <srikanth> s0nee, I am in the normal mode right now. First time after I installed, the normal mode wouldn't start. So I knew this was the problem with not having nvidia drivers. So I installed from recovery mode. Then I rebooted to normal mode. It start ok. But after logging in the screen is blank.
[10:31] <srikanth> It has the menu bar for nautilus on top. thats it.
[10:32] <xubu-jantteri> Sidewinder1: no problem :)
[10:32] <Sidewinder1> xubu-jantteri, That's why I utilize GUIs so often.
[10:32] <s0nee> srikanth: no panel at the bottom ?
[10:32] <ReTrOgRaDe79> Hey guys
[10:32] <srikanth> s0nee, no
[10:33] <xubu-jantteri> I guess I will try with two test folders first and see how the rsync options work ;)
[10:33] <ReTrOgRaDe79> I'm on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, and I have really poor performance with video content with both the Opensource driver and the Propriatery FGLRX driver...whats going on? My card is an ATi HD4250 Mobility
[10:33] <Linuxlainen> plokit-auth issue is resolved :)
[10:34] <Linuxlainen> just found a nice link to install it
[10:34] <Linuxlainen> it seems that this tool is dropped since 10.10
[10:34] <s0nee> srikanth: then i have no clue, sorry
[10:34] <srikanth> s0nee, should I just install gnome and check?
[10:34] <jimcooncat> how do I undo a modprobe? I want to try a different driver
[10:35] <ReTrOgRaDe79> jimcooncat, modprobe -r driver name then modprobe newdrivername
[10:35] <s0nee> srikanth: i guess so. unity 2d does not have the side bar
[10:35] <andrewebdev> My unity launchers just disappeared, and I only have a single menu bar at the top of the screen for Nautilus. Problem persists on system restart. How do I fix this?
[10:35] <s0nee> srikanth: errr seems like it does ... idk.
[10:36] <srikanth> s0nee, just one more question, I installed xmonad but it doesn't show up in the session selection menu. any idea why?
[10:36] <nailox> hi all. is it possible to run a windows program that requires .NET framework under WINE ?
[10:37] <s0nee> srikanth: you have to configure it yourself. try killing the current window manager then run it ?
[10:37] <ReTrOgRaDe79> nailox, Possibly, best check the WineHQ site for more info on how well your program is supported under Wine.
[10:38] <jimcooncat> thanks ReTrOgRaDe79
[10:38] <s0nee> srikanth: xmonad is just a window manager, not a desktop shell like unity or gnome shell so it does not automatically show up in the session list
[10:38] <ReTrOgRaDe79> jimcooncat, No problem :)
[10:38] <ReTrOgRaDe79> nailox, http://appdb.winehq.org/
[10:39] <piegod> Hi, how do I config net interfaces in 11.10? It seems to completely ignore /etc/network/interfaces
[10:39] <srikanth> s0nee, i know. but last time i installed it on 10.10 and 11.04, it was added automatically.
[10:39] <nailox> ReTrOgRaDe79, where do i find that on their site? the program is not popular btw i doubt they will know about it
[10:39] <ReTrOgRaDe79> nailox, Click browse apps and search it, see if it comes up :)
[10:40] <catson> can anyone help me with my completely broken unity? :(
[10:40] <nailox> ReTrOgRaDe79, its not there. can i install wine in ubuntu live session ?
[10:41] <catson> i'm at a loss of what to do at all.
[10:41] <chen_jj> clear
[10:42] <TorbenBeta> I want to make my system anew and would like to back up my files before, any recommendations?
[10:43] <ReTrOgRaDe79> nailox, As far as I know, no.
[10:43] <chen_jj> no
[10:43] <hrolf> How do I control my laptop's brightness? (I'm on 11.10)
[10:43] <ReTrOgRaDe79> TorbenBeta, For backing up data?
[10:43] <ReTrOgRaDe79> hrolf, Do you have FN (function) keys on your laptop?
[10:44] <TorbenBeta> ReTrOgRaDe79, yes example: pictures, music, scripts, librarys.
[10:44] <hrolf> ReTrOgRaDe79: Yes, I do.
[10:45] <TorbenBeta> libraries
[10:45] <ReTrOgRaDe79> hrolf, For me, I press FN + Right arrow to increase brightness
[10:45] <hrolf> ReTrOgRaDe79: Let me try all of them.
[10:45] <hrolf> ReTrOgRaDe79: Well, it was already maxed.
[10:45] <ReTrOgRaDe79> TorbenBeta, Well you can always back them up on the cloud, like dropbox, or tar them up and put them on a usb key
[10:45] <hrolf> ReTrOgRaDe79: That's sad.
[10:45] <ReTrOgRaDe79> hrolf, :/
[10:45] <piegod> How do I config net interfaces in 11.10? It seems to completely ignore /etc/network/interfaces. Has network configuration changed in 11.10?
[10:45] <hrolf> ReTrOgRaDe79: Is there any chance I can increase it?
[10:46] <ReTrOgRaDe79> hrolf, Is it brighter in another OS?
[10:46] <hrolf> ReTrOgRaDe79: Could it be because I haven't installed my graphic drivers? (I don't know if I need to)
[10:46] <TorbenBeta> ReTrOgRaDe79, is there no tool for this? As manually backing up all programs would be a tremulous work.
[10:46] <hrolf> ReTrOgRaDe79: I haven't checked. Bought it and installed Ubuntu right away.
[10:46] <catson> hrolf, do that and then see if you can adjust your gamma setting
[10:47] <hrolf> catson: From where should I download them? Ubuntu Software Centre or should I check my manufacturers website?
[10:47] <ReTrOgRaDe79> TorbenBeta, Well there is Deja Dup, you select files and folders and it makes a backup of them in a specific file, so when you reinstall just make sure you backed up those files containing your data, install deja dup and have it restore it all
[10:47] <catson> hrolf which dist are you running
[10:47] <catson> 10.x or 11.x i assume
[10:47] <hrolf> Ubuntu 11.10
[10:47] <catson> should be under additional drivers then
[10:47] <catson> just type that in the unity search
[10:48] <hrolf> catson: Okay, let me see.
[10:48] <catson> retrograde79, do you know a way I can completely reinstall Unity? it went totally haywire after i installed compizconfig
[10:49] <catson> like it will not show up when I log in all :(
[10:49] <TorbenBeta> ReTrOgRaDe79, would be / for all files or?
[10:50] <piegod> why is 11.10 ignoring my /etc/network/interfaces :(
[10:50] <hrolf> catson: I think I have Addtional Drivers already installed
[10:50] <catson> see about video settings then
[10:50] <hrolf> catson: Is this the thing you were referring to "jockey-gtk 0.9.4-0ubuntu10" ?
[10:50] <catson> gamma should be somewhere in your video settings
[10:50] <catson> no, haha
[10:51] <hrolf> catson: It's the version I got from Ubuntu Software Centre
[10:51] <catson> Well i'm almost positive jockey-gtk isn't a driver
[10:52] <catson> gtk is a gui thing
[10:52] <piegod> jockey is the program responsible for installing those hardware drivers if i recall correctly
[10:53] <catson> makes sense
[10:53] <qva5> hi, i've heard unity in 11.10 uses NVIDIA Optimus
[10:53] <qva5> is that true?
[10:54] <ravn1> how do I stop this new #"?#"!* fom lifting a hilighted window to the top, only activating it as it used to do when I move the mouse over a window
[10:54] <hrolf> catson: Also, if I view in System Info -> Graphics the Driver is listed as "Unknown" which must mean that it wasn't able to find the right driver.
[10:55] <catson> hrolf what card do you have
[10:56] <perlsyntax> I have prob install my own kernel and i try  something on google but seeem some of the web site i  try didn't work.Anyone know a good link for building my own kernel?
[10:56] <auronandace> qva5: what do you mean by that
[10:56] <auronandace> qva5: i don't think the 3.0 kernel supports optimus yet
[10:57] <perlsyntax> anyone build there own kernel before?
[10:57] <Space-Duck> Any fluxbox users out there?
[10:57] <auronandace> !compile | perlsyntax
[10:57] <qva5> @auronandace: to use NVIDIA with Optimus under Linux I used to use bumblebee
[10:57] <hrolf> catson: How do I check that?
[10:58] <perlsyntax> i looking for information to build my own kernel.
[10:58] <qva5> but recently somebody told me that unity in 11.10 is using NVIDIA Optimus without it
[10:58] <hrolf> Dell doesn't provides drivers for my laptop (it only does for Windows 7(
[10:58] <hrolf> )
[10:58] <auronandace> !kernel | perlsyntax
[10:59] <chaospsychex> stick a fork in it, ubottu! ;-P
[10:59] <auronandace> qva5: try it and see, but i doubt it
[11:00] <qva5> @auronandace: yep, I've tried it, but unfortunately is cannot see any change from previous versions
[11:00] <qva5> i still need to disable nvidia divers to have 3d effects
[11:02] <Slartibart> Isn't networkmanager supposed to respect the settings in dhcp3/dhclient.conf ? If the connection is DHCP?
[11:02] <s0nee> is "WPA2 version 1
[11:02] <s0nee> is "WPA2 version 1" wpa2 or wpa1 ??
[11:03] <perlsyntax> hey chaospsychex
[11:04] <chaospsychex> yeah i just sent ya the first link
[11:05] <auronandace> s0nee: wpa2
[11:05] <MrElendig> s0nee: well, it says wpa2.......
[11:06] <damaltor> hi everybody. is thee anyone qho can help me with setting up a dvb-s card within 11.10? i have a tevii S464, drivers loaded, firmware installed, but tuning always fails.
[11:06] <arestod> I'd like to keep a minecraft map persistent between windows and linux. Is it possible for the map in linux to be a "pointer" to the map in windows, symlinks ? Or am I way off now ?
[11:07] <s0nee> auronandace: MrElendig lol thanks
[11:08] <MrElendig> arestod: just mount the wintendo partion and do a symlink to it?
[11:09] <MrElendig> (or just copy it over before you start mineccraft)
[11:09] <arestod> Yea I supose I could include that inte the startup script for minecraft. But a symlink would work then ?
[11:10] <MrElendig> maybe
[11:10] <MrElendig> try it and find out
[11:22] <Neosano> hello, how can I open a window on REMOTE machine using ssh?
[11:24] <jrib> Neosano: set DISPLAY variable
[11:25] <McQueen> hi, i upgrade ubuntu version to last version. the it doesnt run vmware player.  its getting a message "before you can run VMware, several modules must be compiled and loaded into the running kernel."
[11:25] <McQueen> i am clicking the install button then its getting message "Unable to build kernel module. /tmp/vmware-root/setup-3715.log"
[11:26] <McQueen> the log file is: Your GCC version: 4.6
[11:26] <McQueen> Trying to find a suitable PBM set for kernel 3.0.0-12-generic.
[11:26] <McQueen> Building module vmmon
[11:26] <McQueen> Extracting the sources of the vmmon module.
[11:26] <McQueen> Building module with command: /usr/bin/make -C /tmp/vmware-root/modules/vmmon-only auto-build SUPPO$
[11:26] <McQueen> Failed to compile module vmmon!
[11:26] <keda87> hello all
[11:26] <McQueen> how can i fix it
[11:26] <McQueen> ?
[11:27] <keda87> can u help  me, i want to conect my laptop wth projector, i'm using maverick
[11:27] <keda87> hw do i connect my laptop?
[11:27] <vijay_> just put it in water
[11:28] <PurpleFruit> @keda87 Have you connected the laptop to the projector?
[11:28] <keda87> yes..
[11:28] <keda87> then??
[11:28] <vijay_> h
[11:29] <PurpleFruit> make and model of laptop proj and what kind of conn
u mean??? im using toshiba satellite
[11:32] <McQueen> who can help me? show me a way pls
[11:32] <McQueen> ?
[11:35] <McQueen> Oct 29 14:18:53.719: app-139879275329312| Your GCC version: 4.6
[11:35] <McQueen> Oct 29 14:18:53.752: app-139879275329312| Trying to find a suitable PBM set for kernel 3.0.0-12-generic.
[11:35] <McQueen> Oct 29 14:18:54.698: app-139879275329312| Building module vmmon.
[11:35] <McQueen> Oct 29 14:18:54.723: app-139879275329312| Extracting the sources of the vmmon module.
[11:35] <McQueen> Oct 29 14:18:54.858: app-139879275329312| Building module with command: /usr/bin/make -C /tmp/vmware-root/modules/vmmon-only auto-build SUPPO$
[11:35] <FloodBot1> McQueen: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:35] <McQueen> Oct 29 14:19:00.040: app-139879275329312| Failed to compile module vmmon!
[11:35] <Sidewinder1> McQueen, I don't use vmware player, but you might try, in Synaptic or Software Center, "Completely Removing" it, then reinstall it.
[11:36] <McQueen> Sidewinder1, i tried to uninstall and the install it... its getting same error when i tired to run it
[11:37] <Sidewinder1> McQueen, Which version of ubuntu are you using?
[11:37] <McQueen> the lastest 11.10
[11:38] <McQueen> Sidewinder1, it was running well... after upgrade to 11.10 its getting this error
[11:38] <Sidewinder1> McQueen, Sorry I can't help more; :-( That was the only suggestion I had as no one else seemed to know the answer.. Sorry.
[11:38] <McQueen> Sidewinder1, no problem... thank you
[11:41] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:42] <Guest1277> salut a tout le monde
[11:42] <Guest1277> hi
[11:42] <jakes> hii all gues
[11:42] <Guest1277> i need help
[11:42] <Guest1277> my oneiric ocelot
[11:42] <jakes> i need help
[11:42] <Neosano> jakes just ask
[11:43] <Guest1277> my oneiric ocelot dont see my vodafone vodem
[11:43] <Guest1277> i restart my computer but i cant run it
[11:43] <Sidewinder1> Mornin' BluesKaj
[11:43] <Guest1277> i think modem-maganer sucks
[11:43] <BluesKaj> hey Sidewinder1
[11:43] <jakes> i want to uninstall firestarter into ubuntu how can i do this
[11:44] <pascalwervicq> #rencontre
[11:44] <auronandace> !uninstall | jakes
[11:44] <BluesKaj> jakes, install or remove ?
[11:44] <jakes> remove
[11:45] <Guest1277> ubottu: can you help me
[11:45] <BluesKaj> jakes, in the terminal, sudo apt-get remove firestarter
[11:45] <Guest1277> but i cant connect to internet
[11:45] <auronandace> !modem | Guest1277
[11:46] <Guest1277> i
[11:46] <Guest1277> am using ubuntu
[11:46] <jakes> thanx
[11:46] <uranus-> using dial-up
[11:46] <sagaci> jakes: or just uninstall it from the Software Centre
[11:46] <Guest1277> and how can i configure dial-up connection
[11:46] <jakes> ok thanx sagaci & bluue
[11:46] <auronandace> Guest1277: read the link
[11:46] <uranus-> uh
[11:47] <uranus-> use kppp or wvdial
[11:47] <Guest1277> oki i will read
[11:47] <sagaci> !info wvdial
[11:47] <uranus-> wvdial is a good script, much better than ppp-on of old days
[11:47] <sagaci> wvdial isn't installed by default, kppp is on kubuntu
[11:47] <adrellias> wvdial is alot easier than to old ways of doing it
[11:48] <jakes> hey gues tell me what is the use of firestarter
[11:48] <Guest1277> guys in oneiric wvdial is not installled
[11:48] <uranus-> then install it
[11:48] <sagaci> !info firestarter | jakes
[11:48] <adrellias> ?
[11:48] <BluesKaj> Guest1277, do you actually use dialup ?
[11:48] <Guest1277> i say icantr not connect to internet
[11:48] <Gentoo64> jakes: no one uses it any more
[11:48] <Guest1277> i hav only broadband connection
[11:49] <BluesKaj> ok so not dialup
[11:49] <uranus-> I still have a dial-up account that I also use for my E-mail... and use it occasionally
[11:49] <jakes> ok thanx
[11:49] <adrellias> you still have dailup
[11:49] <adrellias> ?
[11:49] <Guest1277> aslo depency is sucks
[11:49]  * Sidewinder1 Thought BluesKaj was the only one still using dial-up. :-)
[11:49] <BluesKaj> Guest1277, ethernet ?
[11:49] <Guest1277> i think a hav one
[11:49] <Guest1277> yep
[11:49] <uranus-> Dial-ups good for apps like IRC where you get banned a lot
[11:49] <uranus-> get banned on one ISP and come back on another
[11:49]  * jrib notes the current conversation isn't really on-topic...
[11:50] <BluesKaj> uranus-, that isn't helping
[11:50] <Guest1277> and ubuntu connects internet via dialup i tink
[11:50] <Sidewinder1> uranus-, Ban evasion is frowned upon, here.
[11:50] <Guest1277> i use vodem but it says it is dial up connection
[11:50] <BluesKaj> no Guest1277 it doesn't
[11:50] <adrellias> ban evasion ?
[11:50] <jakes> when i am start firestarter my net connection is going to off why this happen
[11:50] <Guest1277> but betavine connetion manager needs wvdial on natty
[11:51] <jakes> sorry for my english
[11:51] <BluesKaj> this is nuts...backs off
[11:51] <Sidewinder1> adrellias, Please see uranus- comments, above ^.
[11:51] <Guest1277> guys is there a difference between huwaei and zte modems
[11:51] <Gentoo64> jakes: check ufw status
[11:51] <Gentoo64> jakes: or just remove firestarter
[11:51] <MrElendig> jakes: because your firestarter rules blocks it
[11:52] <MrElendig> jakes: just use iptables/ipset directly?
[11:52] <jakes> k
[11:52] <Sidewinder1> Guest1277, You may wish to try in #hardware, or is it ##hardware..
[11:52] <Guest1277> ok thanks
[11:52] <Sidewinder1> NP
[11:53] <jakes> how to install turbo c in ubuntu
[11:54] <D4nte> hello every one
[11:55] <jakes>  how to install turbo c in ubuntu  plz help
[11:56] <Sidewinder1> !repeat > jakes
[11:56] <D4nte> peepz in here im D4nte come to save u all
[11:56] <dr_willis> you can install gcc and the c language packages jakes .
[11:56] <dr_willis> !be
[11:56] <oCean> D4nte: do you have a support question?
[11:56] <dr_willis> !b-e
[11:56] <Guest1277> forget turbo c
[11:56] <Guest1277> jakes
[11:56] <Guest1277> there is a good c compi
[11:56] <tone77> hello everybody
[11:56] <Guest1277> comp
[11:56] <D4nte> nope
[11:56] <Guest1277> i mean use gcc
[11:57] <tone77> i got a problem with my theme after upgrading to oneiric (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/687/bildschirmfotoam2011102.png/) anyone got an idea what i messed up here?
[11:57] <Sidewinder1> !enter > Guest1227
[11:57] <jemar> hola a todos
[11:57] <oCean> D4nte: this channel is for ubuntu tech support, use #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat
[11:57] <Sidewinder1> !es | jemar
[11:57] <D4nte> oooohh
[11:57] <dr_willis> jakes:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingCompilers
[11:57] <D4nte> i have one
[11:58] <jemar> join #ubuntu-es
[11:58] <jakes> thanx
[11:59] <Sidewinder1> jemar, You need to preceed join with /
[11:59] <jemar> el problema que tengo es que he actualizado a ubuntu 11.10 y no encuentro donde esta la consola, el el menu de Unity  no aparece
[12:00] <auronandace> jemar: /join #ubuntu-es
[12:01] <Sidewinder1> thanx, auronandace
[12:01] <Sidewinder1> :D
[12:01] <ph4nt0m_> im having issues with shorewall when i start the fw i cant connect to the net
[12:01] <tone77> anyone got an idea for my theme problem?`(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/687/bildschirmfotoam2011102.png/)
[12:02] <ph4nt0m_> i replaced wlan0 where eth0 should be so it uses the correct hardware but it still doesnt connet
[12:03] <Skei> Morning, all. I've installed the newest NVIDIA drivers, and apparently, X doesn't play nice with them. I can't boot into my system anymore, I just get a black screen. Will this go away if I manage to install the 275 drivers instead ? If so, how can I stop gdm from running on boot so that I can get to that stage ? Thanks.
[12:03] <jasef> Skei, ctrl+alt+f1 should return you to a terminal when you have the black screen, unless they completely froze your computer
[12:04] <Skei> jasef, that doesn't work, no. I need to stop gdm from running on boot.
[12:04] <jasef> Try choosing recovery mode from the boot menu
[12:04] <Skei> jasef, done, still no go.
[12:04] <BluesKaj> Skei, which driver is installed now ?
[12:04] <jasef> Skei, O.o I thought that X wasn't started in recovery mode...
[12:04] <Skei> BluesKaj, the 290 or so.
[12:04] <dr_willis> Skei:  Installed drivers from the nvidia site? via their .run package? or from the repos?
[12:05] <Skei> dr_willis, from the NVIDIA website. I needed up-to-date CUDA drivers.
[12:05] <dr_willis> !text | Skei
[12:05] <Skei> dr_willis, it was a .run I downloaded there.
[12:05] <dr_willis> Skei:  those seem to break a lot of systems..
[12:05] <s0nee> guys whats the group "daemon" ?
[12:05] <Skei> dr_willis, aye, I'm told the 275 drivers work fine though.
[12:05] <Skei> dr_willis, thanks, will try that. Is it just tapping shift, or holding it down ?
[12:06] <dr_willis> Skei:  it always seems to depend on the spefific hardware. I just use the ones in the repos.
[12:06] <venki> Hi, i ve an issue with wireless drivers. my wireless works if i run these below commands but it does not work by default  sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl  AND sudo modprobe wl
[12:06] <dr_willis> Skei:  no idea really. i set grub to ALWAYS show... i think its silly for them to hide it by default.
[12:06] <Skei> dr_willis, I was happy with my 270, until the newer Matlab wanted updated drivers. :P
[12:06] <neuronlunch> Hey, anyone in here a jedi with the synaptics touchpad driver?
[12:06] <venki> could anybody pls help
[12:06] <neuronlunch> whats up venki?
[12:06] <Skei> dr_willis, there's an option to edit the boot command lines if I hit E or C, as well. Is that the same ?
[12:06] <venki> hi neuronlunch
[12:07] <venki> i am issue with getting my broadcom wireless working
[12:07] <neuronlunch> I have just compiled the driver actually lol
[12:07] <dr_willis> Skei:  yes. thats how you do it.. the !nomodeset wiki shows details
[12:07] <neuronlunch> is it the 4331
[12:07] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | Skei
[12:07] <dr_willis> Skei:  its Possible the nomodeset option might help it work also.. but its hard to tell
[12:07] <venki> it is broadcom 4312 chipset
[12:07] <neuronlunch> ohh ok... I will paste you a link
[12:07] <neuronlunch> 2 secs
[12:07] <Skei> dr_willis, thanks very much for the help, I'll try both.
[12:08] <venki> 0c:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)
[12:08] <venki> this is my chipset
[12:08] <neuronlunch> oh kk
[12:09] <neuronlunch> venki here is the score.. The chipset firmware is what is important
[12:09] <dD0T> Sooo. What do you have to do to get a new screenshot of a software into the Ubuntu Software Center? The one for Mumble is rather outdated by now ;-)
[12:09] <venki> i ve installed b43-firmware installer lp-phy edition
[12:09] <venki> and also few more mentioned in this link
[12:09] <neuronlunch> ok.. you may need bleeding edge driver
[12:09] <venki> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43%20-%20Internet%20access
[12:09] <neuronlunch> I did
[12:10] <venki> oh
[12:10] <neuronlunch> im trying to find the page 2 secs
[12:10] <venki> ok
[12:10] <neuronlunch> its really easy
[12:10] <dr_willis> with my b43xx based laptop. I plugged in the cable during install and checked the right boxs  and it automatically installed the needed drivers/firmware. :)  which suprised me.
[12:11] <venki> the beauty is i can get the wireless working if i execute modprobe remove b43,ssb,wl and just add wl only
[12:11] <venki> but again when i restart wireless stops working again
[12:11] <venki> i ve execute these commands everytime when i want the wireless working
[12:11] <ServerTechLaptop> Okay umm my ubuntu 10.10 Oneiric Ocelot starts up to the unlock harddrive screen, since its encrypted, and the screen shows characters which are like in block form, after unlocking, it doesn't continue and shows a black screen.
[12:12] <neuronlunch> no 2 secs
[12:12] <jemar> jemar: /join #ubuntu-es
[12:12] <neuronlunch>  I got it
[12:12] <venki> gr*
[12:12] <venki> gr8
[12:12] <neuronlunch> you just need to add it to the modules that get loaded at startup
[12:12] <venki> ok
[12:12] <neuronlunch> http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2011/10/macbook-pro-wireless-broadcom-bcm4331.html
[12:13] <neuronlunch> is the page venki
[12:13] <neuronlunch> at the bottom is the add modules to list
[12:13] <venki> checking it nueronlunch
[12:13] <venki> i ll try it
[12:13] <venki> thanks a lot
[12:13] <ServerTechLaptop> any ideas for me?:/
[12:13] <neuronlunch> np, its pretty eay
[12:14] <neuronlunch> whats up ServerTechLaptop?
[12:14] <neuronlunch> Oh if anyone knows how to get touchpad working on 11.10 on macbook 8 series that would be great
[12:14] <bik-family> hi all, I want to ask if annyone can help me getting the right drivers for AIT grafics card
[12:15] <ServerTechLaptop> well after upgrading to 10.10, while booting, it reaches the unlock harddrive screen since its encryped, but shows characters in block form you know what i mean, then successfully unlocks it and stops thereafter with a black screen.
[12:15] <bik-family> ATI card i ment
[12:15] <venki> i ve a lp/phy version stll the same steps apply?
[12:16] <neuronlunch> yeah venki
[12:16] <neuronlunch> just add b43 to the modules list
[12:16] <neuronlunch> it will work
[12:16] <neuronlunch> whatever you modprobe is what you have to list
[12:16] <venki> these versions are latest ones which are not yet updated in the synaptic is it
[12:17] <neuronlunch> are we talking about the touchpad or the wireless?
[12:17] <venki> do i ve do the patching and compiling listed here step by step?
[12:17] <neuronlunch> no venki
[12:17] <neuronlunch> ill send you the commands
[12:17] <neuronlunch> just dont paste the hash
[12:17] <venki> ok
[12:17] <neuronlunch> # cp /etc/modules /etc/modules.old
[12:17] <neuronlunch> echo 'b43' >> /etc/modules
[12:18] <jasox> hi ppl, does anyone know how to fix eclipse menu bar on ubuntu
[12:18] <Juv1228> anyone here have any luck installing ubuntu server to an esxi host?
[12:18] <venki> so these 2 commands will do the magic?
[12:18] <neuronlunch> this should fic the problem
[12:18] <neuronlunch> yup
[12:18] <Juv1228> not sure whats going on, but after an install it boots to the ubuntu logo and then hangs at a black screen
[12:19] <neuronlunch> you can echo any module into the modules lisr and it will load at startup
[12:19] <Juv1228> installing from the mini.iso
[12:19] <Juv1228> tried natty and oneiric
[12:20] <neuronlunch> I have a shiny new macbook :(... and the touchpad doesnt have double click, any idea :(?
[12:20] <dr_willis> Juv1228:  tried the nomodeset uption yet?
[12:20] <dr_willis> !nomodset
[12:20] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[12:20] <neuronlunch> Juv1228 have you tried the +mac iso
[12:21] <neuronlunch> it has no efi /funky grub and nomodeset
[12:21] <neuronlunch> sorry ubottu, quickdraw :P
[12:21] <ServerTechLaptop> after upgrading to 10.10, while booting, it reaches the unlock harddrive screen since its encryped, but shows characters in block form you know what i mean, then successfully unlocks it and stops thereafter with a black screen.
[12:21] <steel> hi,can anybody help me with nvidia problem?
[12:21] <venki> i ve done it nueronlunch
[12:21] <Z`> Hi people. Is it possible to install nautilus-elementary in ubuntu 11.10 ?
[12:22] <venki> i ll reboot and check it if it works
[12:22] <neuronlunch> sweer
[12:22] <neuronlunch> *sweet
[12:22] <neuronlunch> kk
[12:22] <venki> ll be back in a moment. thanks
[12:22] <neuronlunch> let me know how it goes
[12:22] <Juv1228> dr_willis, trying it now
[12:24] <neuronlunch> does anyone know if the mactel ppa are planning on oneiric support?
[12:25] <steel> hi,can anybody help me with nvidia problem?
[12:25] <auronandace> neuronlunch: have you asked the ppa maintainer?
[12:25] <neuronlunch> yeah whats up steel
[12:25] <cloudgeek> My external 2tb hard disk not able to reconginze , by ubuntu ,saying filetsystem not found!
[12:26] <neuronlunch> auronadance: thanks, I have not
[12:26] <neuronlunch> I should do, but here is no direct email
[12:26] <qva5> guys how in 11.10 start application on login?
[12:26] <neuronlunch> venki?
[12:26] <venki> hi neuronlunch
[12:26] <qva5> is it possible from unity?
[12:26] <venki> yes
[12:26] <venki> still it does not work
[12:26] <venki> :(
[12:26] <neuronlunch> :(
[12:26] <neuronlunch> what do you modprbe?
[12:27] <venki> sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl AND sudo modprobe wl
[12:27] <venki> then it works
[12:27] <neuronlunch> you need to echo in wl
[12:28] <steel> neuronlunch, my xorg log file has this error message failed to load nvidia kernel module .any idea how to make it work?
[12:28] <venki> means?
[12:28] <venki> ok
[12:28] <steel> neuronlunch, here is the whole xorg log file http://pastebin.com/UTGpfY6H
[12:29] <venki> u mean i also need to add wl to /etc/modules as i did for b43?
[12:29] <neuronlunch> oh right
[12:29] <venki> ok
[12:29] <neuronlunch> yes venki
[12:29] <neuronlunch> I think :s
[12:29] <venki> is it possible to verify this without restarting the pc? :D
[12:29] <neuronlunch> steel: do you use DVI?
[12:29] <neuronlunch> nope
[12:30] <neuronlunch> well, just restart its easier
[12:30] <venki> ok
[12:30] <steel> neuronlunch, what's dvi?
[12:31] <steel> neuronlunch, i don't think i use it
[12:31] <neuronlunch> the lead that connects your computer to your monitor.
[12:31] <steel> no
[12:31] <neuronlunch> try DISPLAY=:0
[12:31] <neuronlunch> sorry "set DISPLAY=:0
[12:31] <neuronlunch> "
[12:32] <Jackneill> Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908)     Please install the virtualbox-dkms package and execute 'modprobe vboxdrv' as root.
[12:32] <steel> during boot time
[12:32] <steel> ??
[12:32] <neuronlunch> no.. in the shell
[12:32] <Jackneill> anyone can help me with that? i get it in vbox when i try to run a linux os which has i think kernel 2.6, and i got ubuntu 11.10
[12:32] <steel> ok
[12:32] <neuronlunch> then try to startx or whatever
[12:33] <steel> the thing is my laptop has hybrid graphics card
[12:33] <steel> nvidia with optimus
[12:33] <Skei> Well, that didn't work. Still getting a black screen. I managed to get a terminal using nomodeset and installed the old drivers, but it's still not booting properly. dr_willis, any ideas ?
[12:33] <VV> guys last time i addressed my issue here abt how to install backtrack tools on ubuntu 11.10 but sum1 directed me to offensive site and they told me its not allowed to post such questions on their forum
[12:33] <neuronlunch> it looks like its trying to output to the wrong place
[12:34] <Sidewinder1> Jackneill, AFAIK, 2.6 kernel is 10.04..
[12:34] <steel> oh ok
[12:34] <neuronlunch> VV add the repo into the package list
[12:34] <neuronlunch> and then apt-get what you need
[12:35] <auronandace> neuronlunch: you shouldn't mix backtract repos with ubuntus
[12:35] <neuronlunch> thats how you get the tools
[12:35] <neuronlunch> you should really vbox
[12:35] <BluesKaj> Skei, did you remove the proprietary driver first , if not they'll still be the default
[12:36] <Skei> BluesKaj, the installer removed them, it said.
[12:36] <VV> neuronlunch, can u explain or forward me a tutorial on how to do that cz im a complete n00b
[12:36] <neuronlunch> you should really download the normal iso of backtrack and install it into virtualbox
[12:36] <steel> neuronlunch, no,it didn't help
[12:36] <auronandace> VV: you shouldn't do it, things will mess up
[12:37] <neuronlunch> yeah, go play with vbox, you will kill your install fsure
[12:37] <BluesKaj> Skei, reboot ?
[12:37] <llutz> VV: in that case you should start reading some basics, before trying to use things like backtrack-tools
[12:37] <Skei> BluesKaj, done. :P
[12:37] <neuronlunch>  agree with BluesKaj
[12:37] <neuronlunch> be careful
[12:37] <neuronlunch> venki did it work?
[12:38] <venki> no luck nueronlunch
[12:38] <venki> :(
[12:38] <neuronlunch> aww man, i such so hard
[12:38] <neuronlunch> *suck
[12:38] <VV> sure maybe i shud,thanx anyway
[12:38] <neuronlunch> for sure thats what you have to do
[12:38] <neuronlunch> or if you want to cheat
[12:38] <damaltor> ping
[12:39] <neuronlunch> add the line that you execute in the shell to your startup applications
[12:39] <venki> hmmm
[12:39] <llutz> venki: does "lsmod | grep b43" give some output after you did "sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl AND sudo modprobe wl"?
[12:39] <Thelmaria> I want to replace a character on a single line in a script with another character. I have the sed regex, which works. I get the line number using grep -n string file | cut -d: -f1 - but I don't know how to connect the two.
[12:40] <GriGi> Anybody know what "method "createitem" with signature "a{sv}(oayay)b" on interface "org.freedesktop.Secret.Collection" doesn't exist" error mean when i want to login into Ubuntu One? Please, help, i don't know what can i do -,-.
[12:40] <venki> No llutz
[12:40] <venki> it doesnot give any output
[12:40] <venki> i guess b43 is not working and only wl is working
[12:40] <bassliner> wow, ubuntu even managed to break xfce so that i can not browse my home folder with thunar or pcmanfm, complaining about ".gvfs: transport endpoint not connected"
[12:40] <llutz> venki: in that case you have to blacklist b43 NOT to add it to /etc/modules /which explicit loads it
[12:41] <venki> but i am reading b43 gives better performance along with wl. i.e more speed
[12:41] <venki> is that true
[12:41] <llutz> venki: sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/b43.conf, add "blacklist b43"
[12:41] <llutz> venki: idk, i don't use it
[12:42] <neuronlunch> thanks llutz, sorry venki.. my crystal ball is busted up today
[12:42] <llutz> venki: according to your post, it seem more to interfere with wl than it does anything positive
[12:42] <venki> is nano a text editor?
[12:42] <llutz> venki: it is
[12:43] <Skei> dr_willis, booting with the "text" kernel option changes nothing at all. :(
[12:43] <venki> can i use vi instead of nano
[12:44] <auronandace> venki: if you know how, yes
[12:44] <auronandace> venki: i think it is vim rather than vi in the repo though
[12:44] <llutz> venki:sure use whatever you like , after that: "sudo sed -i 's/b43//' /etc/modules"    after that
[12:45] <llutz> you hardly find any _real_ vi today in any distro
[12:45] <venki> there is  already a file called blacklist-bcm43.conf:blacklist
[12:45] <ale1> !list
[12:45] <venki> venki@venki-Studio-1535:/etc/modprobe.d$ grep b43 *
[12:45] <venki> blacklist-bcm43.conf:blacklist b43
[12:45] <venki> blacklist-bcm43.conf:blacklist b43legacy
[12:45] <venki> blacklist.conf:# replaced by b43 and ssb.
[12:45] <FloodBot1> venki: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:46] <venki> ok
[12:46] <adrellias> ?
[12:46] <venki> this already has blacklist b43
[12:47] <venki> still it does not work llutz
[12:47] <llutz> venki: then it should be loaded at boot ...
[12:47] <venki> how do i stop it then?
[12:47] <llutz> venki: 1st, remove it from /etc/modules
[12:49] <venki> it is not there in the /etc/modules
[12:49] <venki> my etc/modules contains only lp and rtc
[12:50] <zaoul1> Anyone know anything about ubuntu?
[12:50] <venki> any idea?
[12:51] <auronandace> zaoul1: that is a rather vague question in the ubuntu support channel ...
[12:51] <zaoul1> trueee
[12:51] <llutz> venki: didn't neuronlunch tell you to add "wl" to it before? anyways, sry cannot help you with b32/wl
[12:52] <zaoul1> auronandace: so its possible that someone out of 1528 people know about ubuntu?
[12:52] <venki> ok
[12:52] <venki> thanks guys
[12:52] <auronandace> zaoul1: of course, what is your problem?
[12:52] <llutz> zaoul1: its just a stupid question. don't ask meta-questions here
[12:53] <oCean> zaoul1: just ask your actual question in the channel. Use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[12:53] <damaltor> can someone help with a dvb-s card? i have a tevii s464, wich _should_ work nicely after putting the firmware into /lib/firmware. the device seems to be ok, but i cannot tune - scan always reports "tuning failed". using mytbuntu 11.10, with kernel 3 seems to be a huge problem.
[12:53] <neuronlunch> zoul1: wow we are all sooo friendly
[12:53] <zaoul1> If I put a apparmor profile in complain mode, do I have to reboot or should it just be disabled?
[12:54] <adrellias> damn this channel is busy
[12:55] <adrellias> how is everyone doing ?
[12:55] <neuronlunch> hey adrellias: yeah good you?
[12:55] <oCean> adrellias: use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat, as not to add offtopic traffic in this "busy" channel
[12:55] <llutz> zaoul1: sudo service apparmor reload                   reboot shouldn't be needed at all
[12:56] <neuronlunch> oCean: do you know then work of Kant?
[12:56] <neuronlunch> and anything about touchpads?
[13:00] <ePierre> hello there!
[13:00] <ePierre> I installed openssh-server, but I cannot access to my computer from outside the LAN
[13:01] <ePierre> I set up my router to forward SSH port (22, TCP)
[13:01] <ePierre> I can ssh, but then when I type my password, I'm always rejected
[13:01] <ePierre> but if I try the same manipulation from inside the LAN, it works fine
[13:02] <auronandace> ePierre: can you use keys rather than passwords?
[13:03] <ePierre> I havent tried keys because I thought if I cannot use passwords in the first place...
[13:03] <ePierre> and for the moment I only have one computer, so I can only try to connect from the same computer
[13:04] <ePierre> except I'm using the Internet address, so
[13:05] <auronandace> ePierre: my knowledge of ssh is rather limited, hopefully the documentation can help you more:
[13:05] <auronandace> !ssh | ePierre
[13:06] <ePierre> thanks, I'm checking it!
[13:06] <dnivra> hello. I'm running Kubuntu 11.10 and the time as per my machine is wrong. I ran "ntpdate pool.ntp.org" to get this error -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/722299/. The time as per my machine is an hour behind and I'd like to correct it automatically. How can I sync it?
[13:07] <Howdy> Hey anyone getting laggy flash player with using ATI card with Flash Player 11 X64 on Oneiric ?
[13:07] <Skei> Anyone know about X and recent NVIDIA drivers not playing nice ?
[13:08] <iceflatline> dnivra: ntpdate can't correct that great of an error (~60 m). You'll need to get your BIOS time a little closer before it take over from there.
[13:08] <auronandace> Skei: can you use the ones in the repos?
[13:08] <Skei> auronandace, I need to check they come with the CUDA stuff. Any idea ?
[13:09] <auronandace> Skei: sorry, i don't know
[13:09] <Jeruvy> Skei, you can search on launchpad for reports.
[13:10] <dnivra> iceflatline: how can I change the BIOS time? and this error I shared means that it isn't able to contact the server isn't it?
[13:10] <Nova685> im trying to find the method to change the folder icons systemwide in kubuntu 11.10 since its not under system/appearance
[13:10] <pundit> to switch between different keyboard layouts there was this syntax in xorg.conf with Xkblayout. however, as there is no section for InputDevice in xorg.conf anymore, is there another way to switch between keyboard layouts?
[13:10] <mohanr2222> guys... do i get gnome-shell type notifications in ubuntu 11.10?
[13:10] <penguinmessiah> im trying to find a wireless card that works with 11.10
[13:11] <zaoul1> nope, libvirt profile cannot be set to complain, reload does not work
[13:11] <penguinmessiah> no luck so far :(
[13:11] <mohanr2222> ^ that is, at the bottom of the screen..
[13:11] <adrellias> ?
[13:11] <auronandace> penguinmessiah: intel wifi works great for me
[13:12] <gregor3000> hi can someone help me with clonezilla?
[13:12] <penguinmessiah> auronandace plug and play?
[13:12] <auronandace> penguinmessiah: built in, i don't use usb wireless dongles
[13:12] <adrellias> what is clonezilla ?
[13:12] <iceflatline> dnivra: Right. I just saw your error.  Try a different server.  As for your BIOS, typically you would use F2 or DEL at start up to enter the BIOS utility where you can adjust your time.
[13:12] <penguinmessiah> auronanace i need a dongle
[13:13] <gregor3000> clonezilla is a cloning distribution to clone hard disks. it has an ubuntu based and debian based version.
[13:13] <gregor3000> however mine doesn't boot.
[13:13] <auronandace> penguinmessiah: then i'm sorry, i can't help you
[13:13] <penguinmessiah> its cool
[13:14] <iceflatline> gregor3000: when you say it doesn't boot you mean it gets to a point and you can't see anything on the screen?
[13:14] <auronandace> !wifi | penguinmessiah
[13:14] <dnivra> iceflatline: thanks! I'll give it a shot. hope it works.
[13:14] <pundit> to switch between different keyboard layouts there was this syntax in xorg.conf with Xkblayout. however, as there is no section for InputDevice in xorg.conf anymore as there was in older versions, is there a newer way to switch between keyboard layouts?
[13:14] <Nova685> so nobody knows how to change the foldier icon theme in kubuntu 11.10?
[13:15] <MrElendig> pundit: just add the section
[13:15] <zaoul1> thats neat
[13:15] <pundit> MrElendig: there has to be an identifier and a driver name in it
[13:15] <MrElendig> pundit: or if you have hotplugging enalbed, use the InputClass section instead
[13:15] <penguinmessiah> anyone use the thinkpenguin card?
[13:16] <pundit> MrElendig: and i dont know what to write as identifier and driver name
[13:16] <shp> hi
[13:16] <pundit> MrElendig: no hotpluggin enabled
[13:16] <shp> what's the default theme name for last ubuntu please (i'm on debian and i'd like to get the same) ?
[13:16] <MrElendig> pundit: If it isn't explicitly disabled then it is enabled
[13:16] <MrElendig> pundit: so try using InputClass instead
[13:16] <iceflatline> dnivra: once you get the time close, use the command ntpdate <a working ntp server> and it should sync for you.
[13:18] <Visitor_099> how can I download a file via ftp on CLI if my username has a @ in it?
[13:18] <ichbinder> hello. I somehow can't rip audio CD's and encode them to mp3 anymore, using tools like Rubyripper or K3b. Using abcde works. Any ideas? I've installed lame from de.archive.ubuntu.com, version 3.98.4-0ubuntu
[13:19] <MrElendig> ichbinder: missing gastreamer plugins maybe?
[13:19] <pundit> MrElendig: InputClass does not work, X does not restart on it. I wrote 'Section "InputClass"'
[13:20] <ichbinder> MrElendig: hm, might be... would there be a specific lame package ?
[13:20] <MrElendig> pundit: http://dpaste.de/ocu5L/  or similar
[13:21] <MrElendig> ichbinder: http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/documentation/plugins.html  lists what package the various plugins are in
[13:22] <CloudySunshine> Could someone please lodge a formal request to put sshfs into a udeb package for the installer images?
[13:22] <CloudySunshine> it would make it super easy to use anything with ssh as a file server. no need for nfs
[13:23] <BluesKaj> CloudySunshine, actually i prefer nfs over sshfs , had fewer problems with nfs
[13:23] <CloudySunshine> why? nfs always seems to be the an extra thing in the way and sshfs has always just worked for me
[13:23] <ichbinder> MrElendig: thanks!
[13:23] <CloudySunshine> you have to setup an nfs server and then export things
[13:24] <BiggDaddy> .
[13:24] <bluecrispmanu> [14:00:51] Warning: The command '/usr/bin/unhide.rb' has been replaced by a script: /usr/bin/unhide.rb: a /usr/bin/ruby -w script text executable
[13:24] <bluecrispmanu> is this a problem?
[13:24] <BluesKaj> CloudySunshine, i find the opposite sshfs has always given me problems in fstab
[13:25] <CloudySunshine> i'm talking about on the installer cd
[13:25] <CloudySunshine> where stab isn't an issue where having the ability to mount an ssh as a place to drop a file would be too easy
[13:26] <bluecrispmanu> neone know if this warning is a problem or what it means [14:00:51] Warning: The command '/usr/bin/unhide.rb' has been replaced by a script: /usr/bin/unhide.rb: a /usr/bin/ruby -w script text executable
[13:26] <CloudySunshine> i tried earlier tonight dd if=/dev/sda1 ssh user@host dd of=sda1 and it didn't work
[13:27] <ichbinder> MrElendig: hm, should be okay. I have the package gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly installed (that contains lame)
[13:27] <CloudySunshine> with pipe between 1 and ssh
[13:28] <MrElendig> ichbinder: ripping to flac works?
[13:28] <MrElendig> CloudySunshine: one thing to keep in mind: you have no error correction doing that, except what tcp provides
[13:28] <MrElendig> correcting/detection
[13:28] <bluecrispmanu> also java just installed is hidden file for whatever reason
[13:29] <CloudySunshine> is there any way to add error correction?
[13:29] <CloudySunshine> maybe through an old modem in/out or something?
[13:29] <MrElendig> bluecrispmanu: you didn't make a clean profile for rkhunter after the initial setup?
[13:30] <bluecrispmanu> i just downloaded it through the terminal
[13:30] <dnivra> hello. I tried a variety of ntp servers to update time but can't contact any of the servers. I'm on a university network which blocks traffic other than HTTP traffic. is that a possible reason?
[13:30] <CloudySunshine> yes
[13:31] <bluecrispmanu> sounds like nothing. y does java hide itself? in fact what is th e  point of hidden files
[13:31] <Juv1228> dnivra, correct. ntp is not http
[13:31] <bluecrispmanu> except for doing no good
[13:31] <Juv1228> bluecrispmanu, other than not having to look at a bunch of clutter every time you ls?
[13:32] <dnivra> Juv1228: do NTP servers respond using NTP protocol? even on specifying an HTTP URL?
[13:32] <pundit> MrElendig: have done "X -configure" to arrive at an identifier and driver name :) thanks in any case
[13:32] <dnivra> oh wait-it's not an HTTP URL sorry Juv1228 :). so that's the issue eh-NTP is blocked? any workarounds?
[13:33] <adrellias> ?
[13:33] <bluecrispmanu> oh i suppose. why would a change in the unhide file and an executable there be a problem? is there a way to report suspicious downloads to a central place quickly
[13:33] <Juv1228> dnivra, my guess is they block by ports, so you could try to find a ntp server running on port 80
[13:33] <eross> is the hp 3000 wireless printer compatible with ubuntu?
[13:33] <adrellias> ?
[13:33] <hank_> hello
[13:34] <hank_> can anyone tell me what the best os for an asus eee pc 901 would be
[13:34] <eross> or via usb
[13:34] <Juv1228> hank_, you realize you are in the ubuntu channel
[13:35] <hank_> oh right
[13:35] <MrElendig> hank_: gnu/linux
[13:35] <eross> hank_ ask in the #linux channel which is the best distro
[13:35] <t55e> installing 11.04 over 10.04 on second dual boot (win/linux) hard drive using LiveUSB for which the drive is partioned with a logical drive for root, home, swap. Under something else option of "Allocate drive space" do I need to fill in the mount information for the prepartioned 10.04 drive?
[13:35] <eross> we will tell you this one
[13:35] <hank_> ive already used ubuntu, macbuntu, xp, windows 7, statler, jolicloud
[13:35] <hank_> but i dunno
[13:35] <eross> DSL?
[13:35] <BluesKaj> BBL
[13:36] <hank_> dont like damn small linux tbh
[13:36] <hank_> whats bbl
[13:36] <fmo1973> hi
[13:37] <fmo1973> is this the right channel to ask questions about Purchased software on Ubuntu Software Center?
[13:37] <auronandace> hank_: it means be back later
[13:37] <kreantos> hey
[13:37] <hank_> oh right
[13:38] <kreantos> how can i set-up the fontsize of the embedded terminal within gedit
[13:39] <hank_> hmm aint got  #linux channel
[13:39] <Juv1228> hank_, try ##linux
[13:40] <ichbinder> MrElendig: yes, ripping to flac works. So it must be a lame problem...
[13:40] <hank_> its not listed in the network list
[13:40] <eross>   /join #linux
[13:41] <dnivra> does anyone know any ntp servers running on port 80?
[13:42] <MrElendig> ichbinder: rip to flac, archive as flac, reencode to mp3 when needed for silly ipod etc
[13:42] <MrElendig> :)
[13:42] <aranadur> hi. after installing the NVIDIA Driver, my shift key stopped working. any solution?
[13:42] <ichbinder> MrElendig: :-/
[13:43] <ichbinder> hm, well... as long as abcde works kind of.... guess I'll fix it some other day.
[13:43] <MrElendig> abcde > * anyway
[13:43] <MrElendig> does tagging and art and everything
[13:45] <ichbinder> MrElendig: art too?! didn't know that...
[13:45] <webclectic> I just upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and i face sound problems. The sound toggles from mute to non mute all the time, Any ideas?
[13:46] <MrElendig> there is a addon for it that grabs art
[13:46] <ichbinder> MrElendig: and yeah, it's pretty awesome.
[13:46] <ichbinder> MrElendig: just a bit inconvenient to figure out things the first time... :)
[13:47] <shp> has someone managed to change gdm3 theme?
[13:47] <MrElendig> ichbinder: http://code.google.com/p/abcde/issues/detail?id=33 and a few other patches
[13:47] <shp> undocumented on the web
[13:47] <MrElendig> shp: arch wiki actually tells you how ^_^
[13:48] <t55e> when upgrading does one need to reset mount indormation during custom allocate driv space step?
[13:48] <t55e> s/indormation/information
[13:49] <ichbinder> MrElendig: nice!
[13:49] <MrElendig> shp: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Gnome#Login_screen  + other relevant keys in there
[13:49] <MrElendig> in dconf that is
[13:49] <MrElendig> gdm doesn't have seperate themes like the old 2.20 etc, but just uses gtk3 theme etc
[13:51] <yujin> amule print KAD:firewalled ,any idea?
[13:51] <shp> k thx MrElendig
[13:51] <elgaton> dnivra: this is not an NTP server but may help you: <http://www.vervest.org/htp/>
[13:51] <shp> what a pity that it changed :(
[13:51] <aranadur> exit
[13:51] <Smith`> òllòòlò
[13:52] <nyuszika7h> o_O this is new to me
[13:52] <nyuszika7h> links to Arch wiki in #ubuntu
[13:53] <shp> btw MrElendig, when you mean "gtk theme", you mean the themes in system > preferences > appearances?
[13:53] <shp> i thought it was gnome themes that's why i ask
[13:54] <elgaton> yujin: If you use a router, you must open the ports used by amule (using NAT) and also make sure that the Ubuntu firewall (ufw) is allowing incoming/outgoing connections for that program
[13:55] <dr_willis> the old gnome themes - were composed of differnt parts. a window decorator, widgits, color. and icon 'theme parts' :)
[13:55] <dr_willis> gtk  handled one aspect.
[13:55] <dr_willis> bbl.
[13:56] <milton> Is it a known problem with Ubuntu that doing the following defeats the screensaver lock?  : Lock the screen (Ctrl-Alt-L), select "Switch user", then choose the user which was logged in.  The screen lock vanishes -- I'm using Ubuntu 10.04.
[13:57] <milton> If it's not common, what might cause this behavior on my system?
[13:57] <czardoz> i dont think it is common
[13:57] <czardoz> have set it to log in automatically?
[13:57] <czardoz> *have you
[13:58] <milton> Had it, but then I tried to change it back, but it didn't seem to help.
[13:59] <czardoz> well, i am not on ubuntu right now, but automatically logging in must have done it
[13:59] <milton> Even so, I think this is a vulnerability -- assume somebody has a BIOS lock for booting, and wants ubuntu to log in automatically, and then locks their screen.  Any other user could then access their account w/o a password.
[14:00] <czardoz> milton: you are right. i hope they have fixed it in the later versions (i have not tried them)
[14:00] <antnash> Can anyone point me to a reason why my DVB-S2 adapter shows up in /dev/dvb but won't register on tvheadend?
[14:01] <t55e> found an answer ... http://howandyou.com/index.php/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-11-10
[14:03] <dominik_> # ubuntu-it
[14:03] <dominik_> # join ubuntu-it
[14:03] <dominik_> # join ubuntu-it
[14:03] <crankhar1er> do all files in /etc/cron.d get picked up and execute by cron?
[14:03] <dominik_> # join /ubuntu-it
[14:04] <auronandace> dominik_: /join #ubuntu-it
[14:04] <dominik_> thanks :D ^_^ i'm idiot!!!
[14:04] <adrellias> ?
[14:05] <adrellias> your not ?
[14:07] <Digitalhen> hey folks
[14:08] <dominik_> hello friend, I have ubuntu 11.04 and i want use fstab for mount automatically my partition ntfs in the boot
[14:08] <dominik_> i have use this string
[14:08] <dominik_> UUID=0B9D18B76CDE9BB9 /home/dominik/Archivio      ntfs  defaults,utf8,umask=007,uid=0,gid=46,auto,rw,nouser     0       0
[14:08] <dominik_> but is only read
[14:10] <Gentoo64> have you tried plain defaults 0 0 ?
[14:10] <Gentoo64> should work for ntfs
[14:10] <Digitalhen> Anyone on here using ZFS?
[14:13] <pundit> 'setxkbmap -rules xorg -layout "at" -option "grp:alt_shift_toggle"' gives an error loading keyboard description though i have "at" there in "locale -a"
[14:15] <lafon> empathy won't favourite chat rooms in 11.10. any idea why?
[14:16] <roney> HELO
[14:17] <adrellias> Helo ?
[14:17] <roney> DE ONDE ESTAS
[14:17] <learner> Hello, I have a problem..I have ubuntu installed with the dual boot option however I don't know why I can't access one of my windows partitions through ubuntu,the error message received is df: `/media/1A76A91A76A8F821': Transport endpoint is not connected
[14:19] <ziga_> hello
[14:19] <ziga_> can anyone help me setup 5.1 surround in xubuntu???
[14:20] <Visitor_099> how can I download a file via ftp on CLI if my username has a @ in it?
[14:21] <theadmin> Visitor_099: First type ftp, then "open ftp.example.org", then enter your username and password, cd to the required directory and "get" the file you need.
[14:22] <ben_q> hey guys, could someone tell me where to find the setting that makes my screen go dark after x minutes?
[14:22] <theadmin> ben_q: Power management stuff
[14:23] <Visitor_099> ls
[14:23] <Visitor_099> oops
[14:23] <johnjohn101> i know this is dumb ? but it if load the kde desktop on top of ubuntu 11.10, will i have kbunutu?
[14:23] <Visitor_099> alright!
[14:23] <Visitor_099> thanks :)
[14:23] <Visitor_099> worked great
[14:23] <FloodBot1> Visitor_099: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:24] <theadmin> johnjohn101: No, not really
[14:24] <theadmin> johnjohn101: Kubuntu has a different set of default applications
[14:24] <johnjohn101> other than that?
[14:24] <ben_q> theadmin, with the new ubuntu the power settings only contain what happens when inactive/lid closed/battery critical
[14:24] <TorbenBeta> Is there a special reason that the ubuntu software centre does not work anymore? #ubuntu11.04
[14:25] <theadmin> ben_q: Um, the "inactive" bit is exactly what you're looking for, isn't it?
[14:25] <ben_q> no
[14:25] <ben_q> it's off there
[14:25] <ben_q> and the screen does not go off, it only goes dark
[14:25] <ben_q> retaining the background light
[14:25] <ben_q> so not off at all
[14:25] <theadmin> ben_q: That's your screensaver...
[14:25] <ben_q> ah
[14:26] <ben_q> never had one set up before
[14:26] <Visitor_099> theadmin: is there a way to see the progress on a file transfer?
[14:26] <ben_q> where would I turn the screensaver off? :D
[14:26] <cristian_c> hi
[14:26] <cristian_c> I installed touchegg 1.0
[14:26] <theadmin> ben_q: The screensaver settings, naturally
[14:27] <theadmin> Visitor_099: Not with the standard ftp client, sorry.
[14:27] <Visitor_099> I did a get and I got 200 PORT command successful      150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for Survival-2011-10-29-12-49-06.tar.gz (253077382 bytes)
[14:27] <cristian_c> but I could not use it because there was no gui
[14:27] <Visitor_099> so I'm not actually sure it's downloading or if it just hung there
[14:27] <theadmin> Visitor_099: If it seems like it "hangs", it's most likely downloading
[14:27] <Visitor_099> okay
[14:27] <Visitor_099> thanks
[14:27] <ben_q> theadmin, yes, but where are they? since 11.10 I can't find many settings anymore
[14:28] <yoshi_> .
[14:28] <ben_q> System Settings are quite empty
[14:28] <theadmin> ben_q: Oh, well... I have no idea honestly, gnome3 is *weird*. Just open the dash and search for "Screensaver", really.
[14:28] <cristian_c> so I was told to install touchegg 0.3 (packages touchegg and touchegg.gui)
[14:28] <cristian_c> *touchegg-gui
[14:28] <CellTech> How do I retard proof my graphics in 10.04?
[14:29] <ben_q> thanks
[14:29] <ZackMath881> i
[14:29] <xangua> theadmin: ben_q want screen saver on oneiric, chech the tweak oneiric post of webupd8
[14:29] <ben_q> found it via google.. "screensaver" doesn't give you anything on the dash (weirdly).. it was a screen lock function
[14:30] <zhigang1992> hi
[14:30] <t55e> how can I determine what might be user data under root dir /?
[14:30] <xangua> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[14:30] <him> hello can any buddy help me?
[14:30] <cristian_c> But the gestures were not working. Then in a link that was given to me, was written to install touchegg 0.2
[14:30] <xangua> !anyone | him
[14:30] <Gentoo64> CellTech: what do you mean
[14:30] <Yoshimitsuc> Hi all
[14:30] <Yoshimitsuc> :)
[14:30] <Smith`> Uso.
[14:31] <him> my external hdd suddenly become read-only how can i fix it?
[14:31] <TorbenBeta> Any programs which are recommendable for backing up my system(files, pictures, music etc.)? I want to do my system anew. #11.04
[14:31] <cristian_c> But even in this case the gestures were not working
[14:31] <loconet> hey there, so I'm going to be upgrading my vid card.. any recommendations in terms of what plays nice with ubuntu nowadays? I'm still on 10.04 right now but will upgrade if necessary. I'm not much of a gamer but will likely be watching HD content on my TV so hdmi support for audio/vid must be present. Eye candy within ubuntu would also be nice.
[14:31] <Smith`> What's your major?
[14:31] <Smith`> Go to start, programs, accessories, games, hearts.
[14:31] <Smith`> You can'y image the world without the eyes.
[14:31] <Gentoo64> TorbenBeta: just copy them over
[14:31] <CellTech> Gentoo64 20min my graphics are fine. then all of a sudden I'll get a pixilated screen and my screen will flash funky lines and colors and I have to turn it off and back on to get it to stop
[14:31] <Smith`> Maybe you don't increase functionality because there are few programmers.
[14:31] <johnjohn101> theadmin, i guess i'll need to install from scratch on usb to see if i like it.  is the change for support is the a kubuntu channel?
[14:31] <llutz> TorbenBeta: rsync to another filesystem or tar it
[14:31] <Smith`> And if I refuse?
[14:31] <Smith`> What?!?
[14:31] <Smith`> Thank you for putting up with it. You seem to have gotten smarter since we last chatted.
[14:31] <Ibyss> Smith`: HUGE CONSEQUENCES MAAAAN!11
[14:31] <Smith`> I wasn't, but would you like to talk about it?
[14:31] <pundit> i want to use which X keyboard description i use at the moment. how to display its name?
[14:31] <TorbenBeta> Gentoo64, llutz can one tar the whole / ?
[14:32] <Smith`> 'Puppy' is not a human name.
[14:32] <oCean> Smith`: stop that
[14:32] <theadmin> johnjohn101: There is a Kubuntu channel, however, you can still ask for support here
[14:32] <Smith`> The lights fill the streets with so much cheer.
[14:32] <llutz> TorbenBeta: you can but it makes no sense
[14:32] <frixion> Smith`: who are you talking to?
[14:32] <Smith`> It depends on how you define 'honest'.
[14:32] <Gentoo64> TorbenBeta: do you want to access it? if not clonezilla can make a restorable image
[14:32] <him> can any one help me ? my external hdd suddenly become read---only?????
[14:32] <cristian_c> I point out that every time I install a new version of touchegg, I uninstall the previously installed packages
[14:32] <frixion> huh
[14:33] <Ampelbein> cristian_c: What do you mean by that?
[14:33] <Gentoo64> TorbenBeta: if i'm backing up any files to transfer i do /home and /etc ... then copy certain files over
[14:33] <hutch> Hi. I need help. I set up a top panel but on reboot only the bottom lxpanel showed up. I typed 'sudo killall lxpanel && lxpanel' in a terminal but when i closed it I lost both panels
[14:33] <hutch> I now have to run killall lxpanel then run lxpanel after every reboot or I only get the default bottom panel
[14:33] <TorbenBeta> Gentoo64, are you doing that, when you wipe your system clean?
[14:33] <llutz> TorbenBeta: if you use mysql or similar, don't forget to backup parts of /var too
[14:33] <allnight888> ciao
[14:33] <allnight888> !list
[14:34] <cristian_c> Ampelbein, I would like to make working the gestures with touchegg
[14:34] <hutch> Any idea how to fix this. I tried in #linuxmint-help and #lxde but noone seems to know
[14:34] <Gentoo64> TorbenBeta: yeah i copy /home and /etc over to my data drive, reinstall all the apps etc on the new system and copy "certain" files over (ones i know ive edited)
[14:34] <zhengyang> hi anyone knows what this error means?warning: setlocale: LC_CTYPE: cannot change locale (UTF-8)
[14:34] <zivester> does anyone know how to get around this bug: `usermod -u 1234 myname` cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later .... im in the recovery console
[14:34] <xangua> !mint | hutch
[14:34] <TorbenBeta> Gentoo64, llutz what is the best way to save the whole /? Gentoo64 copy files over does not work, as the system will be replaced.
[14:34] <xangua> whatever, good luck, too late here
[14:35] <zhengyang> hi anyone knows what this error means?warning: setlocale: LC_CTYPE: cannot change locale (UTF-8)
[14:35] <dalek_> ubuntu 11.10 ruined my life. It screwed everything up and broke everything. I had to make a fresh clean install of Ubuntu 10.10.... and then my data backup died and I lost everything from the past two years.
[14:35] <xangua> hutch: try ubuntu ;)
[14:35] <Gentoo64> TorbenBeta: i mean copy individual files. fstab, firewall configs etc
[14:35] <llutz> TorbenBeta: tar --one-file-system -cvf /mnt/mylinux.tar /
[14:35] <frixion> dalek_: and?
[14:35] <Gentoo64> not copy / onto thje new /
[14:35] <xangua> dalek_: complain channel¿ try #foreveralone , this is a support channel
[14:35] <Ampelbein> cristian_c: ok. Any error messages you get?
[14:35] <llutz> TorbenBeta: done as root with a different fs mounted on /mnt
[14:35] <zhengyang> hi anyone knows what this error means?warning: setlocale: LC_CTYPE: cannot change locale (UTF-8)
[14:35] <cristian_c> Ampelbein, even in the case of version 0.2 of the touchegg, I installed touchegg and touchegg-gui packages
[14:35] <erry> see
[14:36] <TorbenBeta> llutz, thank you and Gentoo64 .
[14:36] <Yoshimitsuc> pls i need fast help
[14:36] <hutch> ubottu I also run ubuntu and this is an lxde problem not a specific distro one. I am here as there are more helpers here
[14:36] <Ampelbein> cristian_c: The most recent version of touchegg in the archives is 1.0-0ubuntu1
[14:36] <Gentoo64> TorbenBeta: is this new one the same system? /etc/ files can vary so i would choose the ones to restore carefully
[14:37] <auronandace> Yoshimitsuc: you better tell your problem quickly then
[14:37] <cristian_c> Ampelbein, I get no errors, but only that the configuration is written in the configuration file
[14:37] <Gentoo64> if its a different system i would be careful
[14:37] <Yoshimitsuc> why i can't put on visual desktop
[14:37] <dalek_> so anyway... i have no idea what happened.. I know the data is on my backup drive.. I just can't get at it... 1 second it was there and being restored to the computer, next second all I get is 200Gb of "unknown" on the drive... IS there ANY recovery tool I can use to get my data back?
[14:37] <Yoshimitsuc> i have instaled vga drivers
[14:37] <auronandace> Yoshimitsuc: put what on virtual desktop?
[14:37] <zhengyang> hi anyone knows what this error means?warning: setlocale: LC_CTYPE: cannot change locale (UTF-8)
[14:37] <TorbenBeta> Gentoo64, I want to replace my current system with a new one. Means everything will be deleted.
[14:37] <cristian_c> Ampelbein, I had one installed, but there was no gui
[14:38] <Gentoo64> TorbenBeta: so same ubuntu and all that, just different hard drive?
[14:38] <TorbenBeta> Gentoo64, please explain more, cannot follow.
[14:38] <elgaton> zhengyang: try to do this (from a terminal): sudo locale-gen
[14:38] <hutch> xangua Ubuntu has just died on my other machine after updates. please don't try ubuntu me in that smug fashion ;)
[14:39] <Gentoo64> TorbenBeta: is it a new pc (with new hardware), or a new ubuntu install on the same pc?
[14:39] <auronandace> hutch: he left
[14:39] <dalek_> How do I recover data from a drive which (apparently) has lost its partition info? It was formatted ext4 and I know the data was there because it all showed up when I started the restore process.
[14:39] <hutch> good lol
[14:39] <Ibyss> him: Have a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8065784&postcount=24
[14:39] <Yoshimitsuc> why i can't turn on visual effect ?
[14:39] <madoo> hi evry one there
[14:39] <Ampelbein> dalek_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery is a good starting point.
[14:39] <TorbenBeta> Gentoo64, thank you for the clarification. It is on the same computer.
[14:39] <Yoshimitsuc> and sry for my english
[14:39] <madoo> i need heelp
[14:39] <madoo> i need hellp
[14:40] <frixion> madoo: yes. everyone needs one
[14:40] <Gentoo64> TorbenBeta: so just upgrading ubuntu? sorry im trying to find the best way for you to do it
[14:40] <auronandace> madoo: then you need to tell us your problem
[14:40] <mavez> help i need somebody
[14:40] <tmds> xD
[14:40] <zhengyang> elgaton: thanks!!! that works!
[14:40] <elgaton> mavez: tell us
[14:40] <mavez> not just anybody
[14:40] <madoo> i did something and i cant fix can you hellp me
[14:40] <elgaton> zhengyang: you're welcome
[14:40] <Ibyss> !ask | madoo
[14:40] <Yoshimitsuc> any 1 know why i can't turn on visual effect
[14:40] <Digitalhen> If anyone is familiar with zfs_arc_max, i'd love a chat
[14:40] <frixion> tell me dear madoo and maves, what's your problem?
[14:40] <Yoshimitsuc> i have instaled graphic driver
[14:40] <Gentoo64> Yoshimitsuc: are the proper graphics drivers installed? what card is it?
[14:40] <auronandace> madoo: not without knowing any more
[14:40] <Ibyss> !anyone | Digitalhen
[14:41] <Yoshimitsuc> i have amd c50
[14:41] <zhengyang> elgaton: what's the reason behind it?
[14:41] <Gentoo64> Yoshimitsuc: is that onboard graphics? maybe it cant handle effects
[14:41] <Ampelbein> Yoshimitsuc: is X using the accelerated drivers? Can you pastebin your /var/log/xorg.0.log?
[14:41] <Ibyss> C'mon people. Ask "the real" question.
[14:41] <TorbenBeta> Gentoo64, no I do not want to upgrade but to replace my current system 11.10 with a new and clean install of 11.10, but with my work files saved.
[14:41] <Yoshimitsuc> AMD C-50 (AMD 6250 HD)
[14:41] <Digitalhen> i want to prevent the memory bug from native ZFS. to do so, i have to set zfs_arc_max, but wherever i set it, it gets reset on reboot.
[14:41] <frixion> Commodore 50? :)
[14:41] <Digitalhen> there's my real question
[14:41] <Digitalhen> :)
[14:42] <Yoshimitsuc> this card can hald this
[14:42] <Gentoo64> TorbenBeta: ok. imo the best way would simply be to copy /home and /etc over to a data drive
[14:42] <dalek_> I don't understand why the drive failed in the first place - what could cause a drive to appear perfectly normal ext4 formatted drive and next moment unknown format?
[14:42] <madoo> i do with ubuntu setup kubuntu like sudo .....  and the pc after finsh  i logout to start new kubuntu but when he start its open for me termnal and need some thing i dont know
[14:42] <madoo> can you hellp me
[14:42] <frixion> madoo: maybe you started recovery session
[14:42] <frixion> or xterm session
[14:42] <TorbenBeta> Gentoo64, are you sure?
[14:42] <madoo> no
[14:42] <tmds> madoo maybe xterm
[14:42] <elgaton> zhengyang: that command generates the locale files to be used by libc for internationalization. Locale files should be generated automatically when you install language packs, in this case it didn't happen for some reason.
[14:42] <Gentoo64> TorbenBeta: then copy the /home files over to the new one. and any /etc files you have edited and spent time on. i wouldn't just drag it all over to the new install as it wouldn't really be a clean instal
[14:43] <frixion> madoo: can you verify it's selecting Kubuntu Desktop?
[14:43] <madoo> and what i can do
[14:43] <Yoshimitsuc> and any 1 can help me?
[14:43] <madoo> no
[14:43] <Ibyss> madoo: What were you trying to do last? Were you installing a software or something? What did you needed to do that required you to issue out THE "sudo command"?
[14:43] <frixion> and so do it.
[14:43] <madoo> its noting is just ubuntu agin
[14:43] <zhengyang> elgaton: OK thanks very much :)
[14:43] <Gentoo64> TorbenBeta: i always do it that way
[14:43] <elgaton> zhengyang: not a problem
[14:43] <Ampelbein> Yoshimitsuc: is X using the accelerated drivers? Can you pastebin your /var/log/xorg.0.log?
[14:44] <madoo> what you mean
[14:44] <frixion> madoo: what command did you issue?
[14:44] <Ampelbein> Digitalhen: Where did you set zfs_arc_max?
[14:44] <TorbenBeta> Gentoo64, thank you.
[14:44] <frixion> madoo: is it sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:44] <Gentoo64> Yoshimitsuc: not sure why. try uninstalling the ati drivers then reinstalling maybe. afaik that card should work fine
[14:44] <TorbenBeta> What is in /etc?
[14:45] <dalek_> if 11.10 wasn't such a pile of worthless trash, I wouldn't be in this mess ;)
[14:45] <Gentoo64> TorbenBeta: if you haven't manually edited any files there, dont back it up. just do /home
[14:45] <madoo> its like i open termnal and i do like .... sudo apt-get install kubuntu desktop
[14:45] <Yoshimitsuc> file:///var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:45] <Ampelbein> Yoshimitsuc: Use a pastebin.
[14:45] <frixion> madoo: kubuntu-desktop?
[14:45] <Ampelbein> !paste | Yoshimitsuc
[14:45] <theadmin> LOL.
[14:45] <madoo> yes
[14:46] <tmds> madoo with a dash within 'kubuntu' and 'desktop' ? xD
[14:46] <madoo> dash what you mean
[14:46] <auronandace> -
[14:46] <frixion> madoo: logout and make sure (verify) that the session has changed to Kubuntu Desktop, and not Xterm Session
[14:46] <frixion> dash = "-"
[14:46] <madoo> i did but no change
[14:47] <frixion> madoo: make sure once more.
[14:47] <madoo> okey
[14:48] <madoo> can i ask plz
[14:48] <frixion> ..
[14:48] <frixion> yes, madoo, yes.
[14:49] <madoo> debian what if i want to setup did i can do
[14:49] <cristian_c> Ampelbein, What can I do? :)
[14:49] <auronandace> madoo: are you using ubuntu or debian?
[14:49] <madoo> ubuntu
[14:49] <madoo> but 10.10
[14:50] <Ampelbein> cristian_c: The gui package isn't in the official archives yet.
[14:50] <jalal> hi people
[14:51] <Ampelbein> cristian_c: see bug 834149
[14:51] <Ibyss> Digitalhen: Is it slow by any chance? zfs?
[14:51] <jalal> brother i m jalal
[14:51] <jalal> i need help with ubuntu
[14:51] <madoo> naw its open and tell me like my neame -g41m:=$
[14:51] <Gentoo64> jalal: we can see your name :)
[14:51] <Gentoo64> jalal: whats the problem
[14:52] <jalal> wireless card
[14:52] <Gentoo64> oh
[14:52] <Gentoo64> cant help with that one!
[14:52] <jalal> my wireless card not detecting
[14:52] <frixion> madoo, did you download kubuntu-desktop from official repo or was it from an unofficial mirror
[14:52] <frixion> jalal: driver?
[14:52] <frixion> jalal: and model
[14:52] <jalal> broadcom
[14:52] <madoo> no i did  in termnal
[14:52] <auronandace> !broadcom | jalal
[14:53] <frixion> madoo, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:53] <jalal> it not work
[14:53] <jalal> i try evrything
[14:53] <madoo> what you mean ... i am so sorry if i ask tomuch
[14:53] <jalal> i try evrything then i came here
[14:54] <pycoderf> anyone know what the error: "athk could not wake the mac chip" might be caused by?
[14:54] <jalal> i have samsung r509-s10 laptop
[14:54] <cristian_c> Ampelbein, I was told to install the package on the site
[14:54] <Gentoo64> madoo: cat /etc/apt/sources.list  see a load of text?
[14:54] <Gentoo64> paste it to a site like pastebin
[14:54] <madoo> ok
[14:54] <pycoderf> i cant seem to get atheros ar5001x+ card to work and the intel pro/wireless 2100 doesnt give me a wlan0 interface
[14:54] <pycoderf> any ideas how to fix this?
[14:55] <jalal> hey ubottu?
[14:55] <jalal> you there
[14:55] <frixion> jalal: ubottu is a bot.
[14:55] <auronandace> !bot | jalal
[14:55] <cristian_c> Ampelbein, I have installed both version 0.3 and version 0.2
[14:56] <Ampelbein> cristian_c: Unfortunately unofficial packages can't be supported here, you might want to get in touch with the developers directly.
[14:56] <jalal> you dont know abought that ubuntu?
[14:57] <CarlFK> what's the name of the app that sets monitor res?
[14:57] <cristian_c> Ampelbein, ok, thanks :)
[14:57] <pycoderf> nobody has any clue to the wireless issue?
[14:57] <madoo> its typ like http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntumaverick-security multiverse
[14:58] <impiza> pycoderf
[14:58] <impiza> is that you
[14:58] <pycoderf> impiza: what?
[14:58] <impiza> sorry
[14:58] <madoo> can you tell me what thats mean
[14:58] <impiza> i thought u are my friend
[14:58] <zykotick9> CarlFK, do you mean the cli program xrandr?
[14:59] <allnight888> ciao
[14:59] <allnight888> !list
[14:59] <madoo> hello
[14:59] <TorbenBeta> Hi.
[14:59] <CarlFK> zykotick9: no, but maybe that will work.  I accdently turned off both displays, and somehow it didn't time out and revert
[14:59] <Gentoo64> TorbenBeta: hi
[15:00] <TorbenBeta> Gentoo64, hi to you too.
[15:00] <zykotick9> CarlFK, sorry i don't have a suggestion for that - good luck.
[15:00] <impiza> jalal
[15:00] <madoo> some one hellp me
[15:00] <jalal> yah say impiza
[15:01] <madoo> hello
[15:01] <johnjohn101> what is directory to set global environment variables on startup?
[15:01] <waperboy> I'm using 10.04, and I'm sure my customizations will be destroyed if I upgrade to latest... am I right?
[15:01] <auronandace> !startup | johnjohn101
[15:01] <DeltaWhy> I am having trouble upgrading to 11.10. When I click upgrade it says it's downloading the upgrade tool, then the update manager closes and nothing else happens.
[15:01] <Gentoo64> waperboy: depends what
[15:02] <impiza> jalal, does they help you
[15:02] <impiza> ?
[15:02] <Babushka> which package is responsible for this error-message? "GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.Packagekit.Modify.Forbidden: "
[15:02] <Gentoo64> waperboy: 11.10 is completely different desktop
[15:02] <elgaton> johnjohn101: for environment variables, use /etc/profile or /etc/profile.d
[15:02] <BigTaxi> Can I get help locating/recognizing a PCMCIA card?
[15:02] <johnjohn101> elgaton, thanks
[15:02] <waperboy> Gentoo64, keyboard mappings, mainly
[15:02] <elgaton> johnjohn101: not a problem
[15:02] <jalal> no help
[15:02] <zykotick9> waperboy, you can't skip releases so you'd have to upgrade 10.04 to 10.10, then 10.10 to 11.04, then 11.04 to 11.10.  Are you sure upgrading is what you want to do?
[15:02] <jalal> what they gave me i try that already
[15:02] <madoo> hello
[15:02] <DeltaWhy> is there a shell command to launch the upgrade wizard directly?
[15:03] <Gentoo64> waperboy: not sure. if not youll have to just redo them
[15:03] <Babushka> it appears when double-clicking on a file, clicking on "search for software online" and want to install it.
[15:03] <Gentoo64> waperboy: its 3 releases ahead so tbh id reinstall
[15:03] <waperboy> Gentoo64, heh it was a long time ago, and I don't even remember the files involved ;)
[15:03] <madoo> evry one there i know good its not here a room chat .. i am in brupleam naw can eny one hellp me
[15:03] <elgaton> DeltaWhy: sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:03] <zykotick9> DeltaWhy, "update-manager" perhaps
[15:03] <Gentoo64> waperboy: youll probably be better off staying wiht 10.04 its reliable from what i hear
[15:04] <madoo> eny one hellp
[15:04] <BigTaxi> How do I recognize/utilize something in a PCMCIA card slot?
[15:04] <zykotick9> DeltaWhy, sorry you're upgrading, see elgaton's suggestion
[15:04] <auronandace> !help | madoo
[15:04] <Gentoo64> madoo: whats your native language?
[15:04] <waperboy> Gentoo64, yes I like it, but sometimes stuff comes along that I want - like SSD TRIM
[15:04] <MrBIOS_> madoo: this isn't texting-land, learn how to type, MrLazy
[15:05] <Gentoo64> waperboy: 10.04 supprts that. add defaults,discard to fstab on the drive
[15:05] <DeltaWhy> seems to be working.
[15:05] <madoo> i dont know
[15:05] <Gentoo64> waperboy: defaults,discard,noatime is what i use
[15:05] <madoo> its frist time i use ubuntu
[15:05] <madoo> i need heelp thats all
[15:05] <MrBIOS_> read some documentation then
[15:05] <waperboy> Gentoo64, I was under the impression that TRIM support came in a later kernel only available in meerkat
[15:05] <Gentoo64> madoo: it hard for people to understand if you're not english
[15:05] <zykotick9> MrBIOS_, that's way to much to ask of ubuntu users ;)
[15:05] <gaurav_dreamweav> i just changed my cpu ram 3gb ddr3 to 4 gb ddr3 but my system is showing me 3 gb only . i am using 32 bit
[15:06] <MrBIOS_> zykotick9: indeed
[15:06] <mang0> !ask | madoo
[15:06] <madoo> my pc when open its make me do my passowrd but after its open termnal for me
[15:06] <mang0> oh okay
[15:06] <Gentoo64> waperboy: ah i could be wrong there. i cant google it atm. search ubuntu 10.04 trim
[15:06] <madoo> i am speake enghlish
[15:06] <mang0> madoo: What country are you from?
[15:06] <MrBIOS_> madoo: sort of
[15:06] <madoo> cairo
[15:06] <g0rs> are there good games on ubuntu?
[15:06] <madoo> egypt
[15:06] <mang0> hmm
[15:07] <MrBIOS_> g0rs: no, they all suck
[15:07] <mang0> MrBIOS_: Lol
[15:07] <needhelp1> has the option to copy a disk to an image been removed in 11.10 ? im not seeing it
[15:07] <waperboy> Gentoo64, ok thanks :)
[15:07] <MrBIOS_> mang0: ;-)
[15:07] <DeltaWhy> also, any idea why ubuntu eats battery twice as fast as windows on my thinkpad x220? this is the biggest reason I'm not using it as my main OS.
[15:07] <Gentoo64> gaurav_dreamweav: think you need the pae. id use 64 bit
[15:07] <needhelp1> i used to right click, copy disk to image ..
[15:07] <MrBIOS_> DeltaWhy: there's a fucking nasty kernel power-related bug
[15:07] <mang0> g0rs: Yes, of course. what sort of game? Just learn to google ;)
[15:07] <mang0> "Linux games"
[15:07] <oCean> MrBIOS_: control your language here, please
[15:07] <g0rs> MrBIOS_: i played circus linux, funny boat and plee thebear
[15:07] <mang0> Gentoo64: G'day
[15:07] <TorbenBeta> Gentoo64, is the cp -p -t sufficient for a back up?
[15:07] <madoo> can you hellp me naw plz
[15:07] <Gentoo64> mang0: any luck with the comp?
[15:07] <Steve^> The new dash opens behind my current applications... is there any way I can turn it off?
[15:07] <MrBIOS_> oCean: sure thing, Mom
[15:07] <Babushka> hi, anyone knows which package is responsible for this error-message? "GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.Packagekit.Modify.Forbidden: "
[15:07] <Babushka> it appears when double-clicking on a file, clicking on "search for software online" and want to install it.
[15:07] <g0rs> mang0: i'm looking at arcade games
[15:08] <DeltaWhy> MrBIOS_: is it fixed in 11.10? or is there a patch for it?
[15:08] <mang0> Gentoo64: I'm keeping an eye for the corsair pcus
[15:08] <Gentoo64> TorbenBeta: cp -r /home/torbenbeta /filesdrive
[15:08] <Gentoo64> mang0: ok
[15:08] <TorbenBeta> Gentoo64, why -r but not -p or -t?
[15:08] <MrBIOS_> DeltaWhy: as far as I no, it is not. earlier kernels seem to not have as many power management issues. This isn't an ubuntu-specific issue, per se
[15:08] <norway> im using the new ubuntu 11.10  an want to be able to use classic ubuntu as well can someone please help so i can select classic from login menu?
[15:08] <llutz> TorbenBeta: cp -a    to be on the save side
[15:08] <Mesaph> I just installed the new kubuntu on my netbook, but it already crashed 3 times. Where can i find the logs? (was something about "panic occured, switching back to text console"
[15:08] <mang0> !eg | madoo
[15:08] <zykotick9> !notunity | norway
[15:08] <needhelp1> has the option to copy a disk to an image been removed in 11.10 ? im not seeing it?
[15:08] <mang0> oops
[15:09] <madoo> yes
[15:09] <llutz> safe*
[15:09] <mang0> madoo: /join #ubuntu-eg
[15:09] <TorbenBeta> Gentoo64, llutz so what cp -r or cp -a? or cp -a -r
[15:09] <Gentoo64> TorbenBeta: if you use cp -r then copy back from the files dirve (as your user) youll keep your permissions anyway
[15:09] <madoo> i do kubuntu into ubuntu in termnal
[15:09] <llutz> TorbenBeta: -a includes dPr
[15:09] <bogor> is there a ubuntu owned irc server? something like irc.ubuntu.com.
[15:09] <DeltaWhy> hmm, would it be possible to run one of those earlier kernels? or would that break something important?
[15:09] <llutz> TorbenBeta: read "man cp" and decide what you want
[15:09] <mang0> bogor: It's a mask to freenode
[15:09] <oCean> bogor: the ubuntu channels use Freenode network
[15:09] <MrBIOS_> bogor: that would be Canonical-owned, but I digress :)
[15:09] <auronandace> !irc | bogor
[15:09] <shaneo> gnome3 is sexy
[15:10] <Gentoo64> shaneo: yeah its nice
[15:10] <shaneo> :
[15:10] <shaneo> :)
[15:10] <mang0> bogor: if you go to irc.ubuntu.com/#ubuntu, you end up here ;)
[15:10] <Mesaph> I just installed the new kubuntu on my netbook, but it already crashed 3 times. Where can i find the logs? (was something about "panic occured, switching back to text console"
[15:10] <TorbenBeta> I guess cp -a looks good. Thanks again Gentoo64 and llutz
[15:10] <bogor> yes mang0 thats what i am seeing
[15:10] <Gentoo64> shaneo: i wish i could just have the looks of gnome 3, without actually having gnome 3
[15:10] <MrBIOS_> hey folks, is there a way to remount a read-only HFS filesystem from the command line?
[15:10] <shaneo> agreed
[15:11] <MrBIOS_> something akin to this in linux: 'remount -o rw,remount /'
[15:11] <shaneo> takes a little getting used to but overall im pleased
[15:11] <mang0> madoo: There is an egyptian ubuntu channel: #ubuntu-eg. To get there send "/join #ubuntu-eg"
[15:11] <madoo> i need hellp can i find here
[15:11] <osmodivs> Hello
[15:11] <bogor> Thanks mang0 and oCean for clarifying. I was wondering whta was happening.
[15:11] <shaneo> kinda hard to find panel indicators that work though
[15:11] <MrBIOS_> wrong channel, my apologies :)
[15:11] <mang0> bogor: Np
[15:11] <elgaton> Mesaph: in /var/log/... (e.g. /var/log/dmesg)
[15:11] <Mesaph> thx
[15:11] <needhelp1> has the option to copy a disk to an image been removed in 11.10 ? im not seeing it? i used to right click the disk and choose copy disk to image.. that option is no longer there ?
[15:11] <elgaton> You're welcome
[15:11] <osmodivs> Is there a way to put GUAKE terminal in the top panel? I dont want to open the terminal to open another terminal.
[15:12] <bogor> I see that mysql-worbench is gpl'ed , yet it is not available from one of the official repositories. Why is it so ?
[15:12] <bogor> mysql-workbench*
[15:12] <DeltaWhy> MrBIOS_: is downgrading the kernel a reasonable solution to the power bug? or would that cause other issues?
[15:12] <bhavesh> Here is a nVidia bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-settings-updates/+bug/539196         and it says "Fix Released" so how am I supposed to apply that fix?
[15:12] <Ricaz> Hello, can anyone point me to a way to compile a C# project (from VS) to ubuntu and how to use it?
[15:13] <MrBIOS_> DeltaWhy: honestly, I don't know. Have you noticed high CPU utilization of kworker process if you look at top on your machine?
[15:13] <gaurav_dreamweav> why my ubuntu is showing my 4gb ram in 3gb i am using 32 bit
[15:13] <madoo> 0MANG
[15:13] <Gentoo64> gaurav_dreamweav: because by default 32 bit only supports like 3.2gb ram
[15:13] <Gentoo64> you need the pae or use 64 bit
[15:13] <BigTaxi> I'm having issues recognizing and utilizing a PCMCIA card
[15:13] <Gentoo64> i would go for 64 bit
[15:14] <gaurav_dreamweav> Gentoo64, so my rest of ram is getting wastage . and what is pae
[15:14] <Guest44356> ciao ragazzi ho un problema
[15:14] <DeltaWhy> MrBIOS_: doesn't look like it. there's a few near the top of the list but they're all using 1 or 0 percent.
[15:14] <elgaton> needhelp1: I haven't got GNOME at the moment - is there in Brasero, in the "Copy disk" dialog, the possibility to copy a disk to an ISO? If not, you can use dd from the terminal.
[15:14] <XPluis> dae
[15:15] <zykotick9> !pae | gaurav_dreamweav
[15:15] <dougl> my 10.10 install keeps loging me out when left for long periods - this is undesireable any suggestions?
[15:15] <Gentoo64> gaurav_dreamweav: it enables 32 bit to use more ram. i would just got for 64 bit and forget about it
[15:15] <MaxyWell> Get this message every time I try to start LibreOffice. The application cannot be started.
[15:15] <MaxyWell> [context="shared"] caught unexpected exception!
[15:15] <zykotick9> gaurav_dreamweav, pae is a poor "hack" that slows down your system, 64bit as Gentoo64 suggested is better
[15:15] <bluesdoc> hey guys, i just installed the ATI drivers on 11.10 and after restart my gnome panel is missing, should i try another restart or how do i get the panel back?
[15:15] <XPluis> viados
[15:16] <bogor> Is there any reasong behind mysql-wrokbench not being available in official repositories of ubuntu natty
[15:16] <Gentoo64> bluesdoc: did it come up with a message saying "deletle panel"?
[15:16] <bluesdoc> no
[15:16] <Gentoo64> bluesdoc: try another reboot
[15:16] <bluesdoc> ok
[15:16] <Gentoo64> gnome 3 randomly does weird stuff like that
[15:16] <gaurav_dreamweav> Gentoo64, thanks .
[15:16] <pycoderf> anyone use an atheros ar5001x+ wireless card?
[15:16] <elgaton> Guest44356: just tell us. Also, please use English (as this is an english channel), otherwise you may try joining #ubuntu-it.
[15:16] <needhelp1> elgaton, yes ok, i see the brasero disk copy option, this is what i was using in the past, only for some reason its not letting me pick my disk im trying to copy, its listed but not selectable for some reason
[15:17] <needhelp1> elgaton, let me install ubuntu restricted extras maybe
[15:17] <BigTaxi> I'm having trouble recognizing or utilizing a PCMCIA card. Is there any chance you can help me?
[15:17] <jacquesdupontd> hi
[15:17] <elgaton> needhelp1: I don't think that will work (restricted extras just add codecs not included in the main distribution)
[15:17] <elgaton> needhelp1: here are some workarounds: 1) use dd from the terminal, 2) install k3b
[15:18] <jacquesdupontd> i think i'm not alone to ask that simple question, i've seen that upgrading means less settings possible but that would have been cool to reset theme at the same time because old theme user settings applied to new version of themes is making all colors really bad
[15:18] <bhavesh> So I am supposed to install this patch https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-settings/195.36.08-0ubuntu2 in Oneiric even though it says its uploaded for Lucid?
[15:18] <auronandace> jacquesdupontd: ...what?
[15:19] <jacquesdupontd> i mean the color of my windows are black and it is written in black on it , black on black is not that good
[15:19] <jacquesdupontd> i mean i would have liked to have the basic theme after my update 11.10 reseted
[15:19] <Gentoo64> clean install to avoid any mess
[15:20] <jacquesdupontd> instead it keeped my old themes settings and applied theme to the newer themes and without being able easily to change the background color of different windows , same things for highlights and all
[15:20] <auronandace> jacquesdupontd: theme support in gnome3 is not very good
[15:20] <bluesdoc> Gentoo64: still, no gnome panel
[15:20] <elgaton> Ricaz: use monodevelop (its IDE is similar to VS, you should have no problems).
[15:20] <Gentoo64> bluesdoc: not sure :s
[15:20] <pycoderf> is there a link to a newer version of the ath5k drivers?
[15:20] <jacquesdupontd> i do not want to make extrordinary settings , but could someone show me the Working solution to reset themes and color settings to basic ones
[15:20] <parsek77> Hello All. My Ubuntu 11.10 Software center is showing only a white screen. Nothing happens. Any way to fix the issue?
[15:20] <BigTaxi> Will someone please help? I am having difficulty with a PCMCIA card.
[15:21] <elgaton> dougl: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/stop-gnome-from-automatically-logout-449875/#post2269199
[15:21] <pycoderf> BigTaxi: nobody helps here for some reason
[15:21] <jacquesdupontd> shouldn't be that hard , the web is full of forum with people having the same problem , however i find gnome3 pretty cool but that makes it just horrible
[15:21] <bluesdoc> ok, i'll ask again, after installin the ati drivers on 11.10 and restarting my gnome panel disappeared and rebooting won't help either... how do i get the gnome panel back?
[15:21] <BigTaxi> pycoderf they help other people, you mean
[15:21] <pycoderf> BigTaxi: maybe
[15:21] <elgaton> bluesdoc: have you tried to check if your ATI card is supported by the proprietary drivers?
[15:22] <bluesdoc> elgaton: it was all fine with 11.04
[15:22] <pycoderf> BigTaxi: I havent been ableto get help here all mornin
[15:22] <auronandace> bluesdoc: 11.04 didn't use gnome3
[15:23] <jacquesdupontd> Clean install to avoid any mess , i'm on ubuntu since Debian , i know understood that i didn't want to reformat reconfigure my grub with 7 system and loose sometime a lot of my data , i can't understand how ubuntu is improving certain things to make it more user friendly and on another side supressing possibilities of changing simple background color of a window or not being able to install a theme very easily or reset
[15:23] <jacquesdupontd> one
[15:23] <parsek77> Anyone had a problem with Software Center?
[15:24] <Gentoo64> pycoderf: no one here gets paid. if no one knows, no one knows :)
[15:24] <elgaton> bluesdoc: also, maybe with the latest driver release AMD/ATI decided to stop supporting your card (especially if it's old).
[15:24] <bluesdoc> i am pretty sure it's supported
[15:24] <bluesdoc> it's not old
[15:25] <bluesdoc> but even if it weren't why would the gnome panel disappear just like that?
[15:25] <elgaton> Then, I'm afraid don't know... let me check the Catalyst site
[15:25] <An_Ony_Moose> where is the account data for empathy stored? I looked in .gconf/apps/empathy, but didn't find anything of use. ~/.purple doesn't exist either, though that's where I found hat I was looking for last time. Can anyone help?
[15:25] <Gentoo64> bluesdoc: maybe try uninstalling the drivers, rebooting then reinstalling
[15:26] <pycoderf> Gentoo64: well it seems the wholeinternet doesnt knwo thena s i have the same issue with archlinux and have beensearching for weeks
[15:26] <Gentoo64> pycoderf: what issue?
[15:26] <bluesdoc> i wouldn't know how to uninstall  the driver since i only opened this firefox with a key shortcut, i don't even know how to open a terminal
[15:26] <auronandace> An_Ony_Moose: ~/.purple is used by pidgin, not empathy
[15:26] <bluesdoc> my panel is gone
[15:26] <BigTaxi> I cannot seem to recognize or utilize and PCMCIA card. And everyone else here likes men. Who read that? Probably no-one.
[15:26] <MaxyWell> Get this message every time I try to start LibreOffice. The application cannot be started. [context="shared"] caught unexpected exception!
[15:27] <pycoderf> Gentoo64: my atheros ar5001x+ generates and error which states "ath5k: cannot wake the mac chip" and i never get a wlan0 interface. and if i use the old ipw2100 card i get eth1 but cant get on wireless networks
[15:27] <Gentoo64> BigTaxi: lol
[15:27] <bluesdoc> ok got a terminal
[15:27] <BigTaxi> :P
[15:27] <bluesdoc> ahhhh, typing "gnome-panel" into terminal gave me a panel
[15:27] <Gentoo64> pycoderf: does it show in lspci or whatever?
[15:28] <MaxyWell> Get this message every time I try to start LibreOffice. The application cannot be started. [context="shared"] caught unexpected exception!
[15:28] <pycoderf> Gentoo64: yes i see it in lspci and when i run lsmod i see ath5k as loaded
[15:28] <An_Ony_Moose> auronandace: oh. that would explain it :)
[15:28] <An_Ony_Moose> but what does empatyh use then?
[15:29] <MaxyWell> Get this message every time I try to start LibreOffice. The application cannot be started. [context="shared"] caught unexpected exception!
[15:29] <auronandace> An_Ony_Moose: sorry, don'y know; never used it
[15:29] <EzeQL> im new to Ubuntu, when i press alt+tab for swithicing between opened apps... switching graphics are lagged
[15:29] <EzeQL> any hints?
[15:29] <Gentoo64> pycoderf: god i really know nothing at all about wireless
[15:29] <Gentoo64> pycoderf: ill have a googl in a bit
[15:29] <pycoderf> Gentoo64: i have been googling for weeks with no luck. this is a clean install of ubuntu 10.04 server
[15:29] <BigTaxi> I would like some assistance on a problem I am having with Linux.
[15:29] <MaxyWell> Get this message every time I try to start LibreOffice. The application cannot be started. [context="shared"] caught unexpected exception!
[15:29] <lolzer> EzeQL, how much ram you have??
[15:29] <EzeQL> 8GB
[15:30] <Gentoo64> pycoderf: did you have to install special drivers for it?
[15:30] <ubuntu64bit> MaxyWell unexpected exception is usually from ram
[15:30] <An_Ony_Moose> auronandace: I used it for 10 minutes or so... only to find half a year later that it's the only place I still have a couple of passwords stored >.<
[15:30] <pycoderf> Gentoo64: no they are supposedly built into the kernel
[15:30] <lolzer> EzeQL,  and which processor ??
[15:30] <Gentoo64> pycoderf: you could maybe try 11.10 (just to see if its a kernel thing)
[15:30] <MaxyWell> ubuntu64bit, so what should i do?
[15:30] <elgaton> EzeQL: maybe your graphic card is not powerful and cannot handle smooth transitions between windows
[15:30] <Gentoo64> on livecd
[15:30] <Gentoo64> pycoderf: ^
[15:31] <pycoderf> Gentoo64: i cant i tried it and can only boot into recovery mod forsome reason. it hangs at an error about system v startup scripts
[15:31] <randomusr> I'm not able to use desktop effects. It was working yesterday. I've not installed any new drivers or Compiz software.
[15:31] <EzeQL> i7 860 , ati raderon hd 5770 1Gb ram
[15:31] <elgaton> EzeQL: that one should do...
[15:31] <randomusr> When I try to enable desktop effects I get an error that Desktop effects could not be enabled
[15:31] <Gentoo64> pycoderf: 11.04? i dont know what else to suggest. i cant get on google right now
[15:32] <lolzer> EzeQL, i think you have more than enough to do that job
[15:32] <elgaton> MaxyWell: try deleting your ~/.libreoffice folder
[15:32] <Gentoo64> pycoderf: i knwo youve googled it but ill have a go later
[15:32] <BigTaxi> I am not able to use my PCMCIA card. Please offer me some assistance. or a PM.
[15:32] <ubuntu64bit> hmmm maybe can try to re-install libreoffice saving your files first and see if that works?
[15:32] <lolzer> EzeQL, do you have applications running??
[15:32] <t55e> running livecd on a usb and what to copy files from a hard drive to the (livecd) usb.  which drive/directory is the usb?
[15:32] <pycoderf> Gentoo64: probably sam issue but i used 11.10. also if i plug in a wsb drive what is the default device i should mount? i cant tell im using cli only
[15:32] <t55e> I am assuming root or /
[15:33] <bluesdoc> ok i am removing the driver
[15:33] <EzeQL> lolzer, one browser instance
[15:34] <MaxyWell> elgaton, then what? :)
[15:34] <Skei> Urgh, Unity is so nasty !
[15:34] <EzeQL> computer is almost idle ,
[15:34] <elgaton> MaxyWell: try restarting LibreOffice after that
[15:34] <auronandace> Skei: you don't have to use it...
[15:34] <elgaton> That should do the trick
[15:34] <MaxyWell> you mean reinstalling?
[15:34] <oxymoron> This makes me nuts, next problem. How to install phpmyadmin? After I installed it, localhost/phpmyadmin does not work, it does not find the alias provided my phpmyadmin package, like apache do not know about it. How to configure apache2 for phpmyadmin?
[15:35] <tacomaster> SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="rtl8187", ATTR{address}=="00:00:00:00:00:00", ATTR{type}=="1", NAME="wlan0" RUN+="/path/to/script"     is this correct format i have been looking this up online for almost a month and i think i may have it right now please tell me if im wrong im trying to make a udev rule that will execute a script for my wireless to function correctly
[15:35] <BigTaxi> I am having a problem with my PCMCIA slot. The terminal can locate the card, however there is no way to access it, or utilize it in any way. I wonder if PCMCIA card problems are really this terrifying?
[15:35] <vimto> whois vimto
[15:35] <randomusr> how do I fix desktop effects when it gives the error "Desktop effects could not be enabled"?
[15:36] <Skei> auronandace, yep, in the process of killing it with fire now.
[15:36] <megalinux> ligar
[15:36] <auronandace> Skei: i use xubuntu, so unity is never there in the first place (xfce is my favourite)
[15:37] <BigTaxi> I am having problems with my PCMCIA card slot.
[15:37] <auronandace> BigTaxi: the slot or the card? :)
[15:38] <BigTaxi> the slot, as far as i know
[15:38] <auronandace> BigTaxi: tried a different slot?
[15:38] <randomusr> !compiz | randomusr
[15:38] <BigTaxi> I have no other slots ;)
[15:38] <BigTaxi> the terminal knows when a card is insterted, but there is no 'beep'
[15:38] <auronandace> BigTaxi: does the card work in another computer?
[15:39] <elgaton> randomusr: have you already installed the proprietary drivers, if applicable?
[15:39] <BigTaxi> i don't have access to another computer as of right now... but I suppose I could later on
[15:39] <kandinski> hi, I am trying to use paprefs and pulseaudio-module-raop (from ubuntu 11.10) to stream music via airplay
[15:39] <kandinski> but when I launch paprefs the options are greyed out
[15:39] <kandinski> it's probably something to do with permissions, but I don't know what, can anybody help?
[15:39] <sudipta> what is the next version of gnome-shell and what are the proposed features of it?
[15:39] <Gentoo64> BigTaxi: maybe try posting on the ubuntu forums
[15:39] <auronandace> BigTaxi: what is the card for? a memory card reader?
[15:40] <nawk> I am on the Oneiric Ocelot live cd right now
[15:40] <Gentoo64> pycoderf: you mean usb drive?
[15:40] <pycoderf> Gentoo64: i got it but yes
[15:40] <nawk> the sources.list file is reduced to only 3 repos
[15:40] <randomusr> elgaton, yes from the Nvidia website a few months back and they've been working great. It still shows up in lspci -vv
[15:40] <auronandace> nawk: awesome, keep it up
[15:40] <BigTaxi> The card is a digital TV/ RCA cable reader
[15:40] <nawk> auronandace: which repo has the packages for audio/video codecs
[15:41] <nawk> I can't remember the name of the repo
[15:41] <auronandace> BigTaxi: oh, a tv card, i've never used those (i got a tv :))
[15:41] <nawk> I want to listen to some music while I configure some stuff before I install the thing
[15:41] <auronandace> nawk: you shouldn't need to add a repo
[15:42] <elgaton> randomusr: open a terminal and type "sudo glxinfo | grep rendering", then post the output here
[15:42] <BigTaxi> but i'm just perplexed that the computer doesnt seem to notice a card at all.
[15:42] <BigTaxi> no beep, no hardware installed, etc
[15:42] <auronandace> !tv | BigTaxi
[15:42] <Halabund> Is anyone else having problems with gvim on Oneiric?  I don't have any personal vimrc, yet it keeps locking up
[15:42] <BigTaxi> OK, thank you
[15:43] <tacomaster> is anyone good at udev scripts because i am trying to make sure mine is correct before i put it in effect
[15:43] <nawk> auronandace: appaarently there's only 3 repos in sources.list, and they're : oneiric main restricted, oneirc-security main restricted and,oneiric-updates main restricted
[15:43] <auronandace> nawk: yes
[15:44] <randomusr> elgaton, X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
[15:44] <randomusr>   Major opcode of failed request:  138 (NV-GLX)
[15:44] <randomusr>   Minor opcode of failed request:  4 ()
[15:44] <randomusr>   Resource id in failed request:  0x4200003
[15:44] <randomusr>   Serial number of failed request:  31
[15:44] <randomusr>   Current serial number in output stream:  31
[15:44] <FloodBot1> randomusr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:45] <elgaton> randomusr: sorry - I thought the output would consist only of one row. If there is more than one, use paste.ubuntu.com to avoid flooding the channel.
[15:45] <elgaton> Very strange...
[15:46] <randomusr> elgaton, no worries, I'll use pastebin next time
[15:46] <zykotick9> !medibuntu | nawk
[15:48] <rojanu> Hi, I have my Dowloads folder in home folder as a symlink to a folder on a different drive, now when I copy something from within ~/Downloads to ../bin a "bin" folder is created in the other drive
[15:48] <rojanu> is this the exptected behaviour
[15:49] <Trond--> When I installed 10.10 in boot I get the message "serious errors were found while checking the disk drive for /media/ssd". If I try manual check with fsck command I get warning that severe damage to file system will be done.
[15:49] <elgaton> randomusr: I think the X server is acting a bit strange. Normally, that error message ("BadWindow") should be displayed only when X is trying to act on a closed window (for example, when you are shutting down the system and processes are being killed).
[15:49] <zykotick9> rojanu, ../ means go down one directory (from where you are).  So probably it is expected.  You shouldn't be putting thing in /bin anyways - but just use /bin (full path, instead of ../bin)
[15:49] <elgaton> randomusr: Anyway, let me do a quick search
[15:50] <zykotick9> rojanu, oh - perhaps you mean ~/bin my bad
[15:50] <rojanu> zykotick9 "bin" is folder in my home folder, but my expectancy was that as I am in symlink folder it should go one up from there
[15:50] <rojanu> not the real folder
[15:51] <jamil_1> hi all, sound is coming from only one speaker on my dell laptop
[15:51] <zykotick9> rojanu, symlinks to directories are soft links - not the same as hardlinks
[15:51] <jamil_1> I am running the live cd
[15:52] <TorbenBeta> Is 'sudo cp -a /home/ /media/DATALUX/' the correct command to copy my files from home to DATALUX(external fs)?
[15:52] <zykotick9> rojanu, technically symbolic links not soft
[15:52] <rojanu> zykotick9, in that case I realy should be creating hardlinks not softlinks!!!
[15:53] <zykotick9> rojanu, you can't hardlink to directories
[15:53] <rojanu> No?
[15:54] <rabbi1> how to fix the width and height of google chrome at start ?
[15:55] <savid> Hi, it appears support for my device has been applied to ubuntu upstream:  http://bit.ly/vcaHuq   I'm not familiar with the development process, but what's the best way to get this update into my system?
[15:55] <elgaton> randomusr: try running the compiz-check script (have a look at <http://forlong.blogage.de/entries/pages/Compiz-Check>), then post the output in a pastebin and give me the link, please
[15:55] <sunjun> who use mac now
[15:56] <BigTaxi> The site I was given has no advice for actually DISCOVERING the card on my laptop. Any tips there?
[15:56] <Nisstyre> BigTaxi: lspci
[15:56] <norway> anyone know of a firewall for ubuntu 11.10 with gui that you dont haft to run root?
[15:57] <Amirh> I used wine to install an online game, but it says connection failed when I run it.
[15:57] <GatorAlli> Hello, I'm running Ubuntu 11.04, and I get this error while trying to read webpages. http://paste.pocoo.org/show/500021/
[15:57] <BigTaxi> Nisstyre: I should have clarified. I can only see the card in the terminal. That's it.
[15:57] <auronandace> !wine | Amirh
[15:57] <Nisstyre> BigTaxi: I don't understand what you mean by that
[15:58] <Amirh> it cannot connect to my network
[15:58] <BigTaxi> lspci and man -k pcmcia show me that there is, in fact, a card inserted
[15:58] <BigTaxi> but it does not show up as any available hardware
[15:58] <auronandace> !appdb | Amirh
[15:58] <Nisstyre> BigTaxi: do you have the correct kernel module(s) loaded?
[15:59] <venluckey> Hello All
[15:59] <BigTaxi> pccardctl status is my best for of recognition
[15:59] <BigTaxi> I'm not too sure about the kernel
[15:59] <Nisstyre> BigTaxi: do "lsmod" and look for your card
[16:00] <Nisstyre> you might be able to grep for something there
[16:00] <Nisstyre> I don't know
[16:00] <venluckey> any Dell Mini 9 Users?
[16:00] <enzotib> !list
[16:00] <randomusr> elgaton, http://pastebin.com/KSDphr5L
[16:00] <TorbenBeta> Is 'sudo cp -a /home/ /media/DATALUX/' the correct command to copy my files from home to DATALUX(external fs)?
[16:00] <MrElendig> TorbenBeta: shouldn't need sudo
[16:00] <BigTaxi> pcmcia =0 , pcmcia rsrc =1,  pcmcia core = 3
[16:00] <MrElendig> TorbenBeta: use saner permissions instead
[16:00] <auronandace> venluckey: i don't use a dell mini 9, i'm so glad to have answered your support question
[16:01] <BluesKaj> BigTaxi, lsmod |grep snd , the default module is usually the first one listed
[16:01] <TorbenBeta> MrElendig, will it work anyway?
[16:01] <MrElendig> TorbenBeta: what fs is it on the external btw?
[16:01] <MrElendig> TorbenBeta: also, rsync is better for backup usage, since it checks for consistency and has resume support
[16:02] <TorbenBeta> NTFS MrElendig
[16:02] <MrElendig> unlike cp it will check that the data is identical on both
[16:02] <elgaton> randomusr: well, seems your graphics card is missing one of the OpenGL extensions that are required for Compiz to work properly - try reinstalling the nVidia drivers (uninstall the old ones and use the latest version from the nVidia site).
[16:02] <MrElendig> TorbenBeta: urgh, you will lose all posix permissions, which is bad
[16:02] <BigTaxi> I do not see a grp snd in the lsmod listing. Am i misunderstanding?
[16:02] <MrElendig> TorbenBeta: specially for .files that contains passwords and the like, not to mention for .ssh
[16:02] <BluesKaj> BigTaxi,  copy the command
[16:03] <BluesKaj> and paste it
[16:03] <MrElendig> TorbenBeta: I would strongly suggest somethign else than ntfs for backups
[16:03] <TorbenBeta> MrElendig, do you have a better one?
[16:03] <mgpcoe> Has anybody been having trouble with powersave on Lucid lately? I have a laptop that won't go in to standby, and after the last time I tried to shutdown, and had to do it hard, has refused to fully start in anything other than recovery/failsafeX mode.
[16:03] <norway> i had the answer to my question i come back from the bathroom an its gone?
[16:03] <BigTaxi> and then
[16:03] <MrElendig> TorbenBeta: alternativly tar or cpio up /home before
[16:03] <BigTaxi> ?
[16:03] <MrElendig> TorbenBeta: to preserve the permissions
[16:03] <scottj> when I apt-get update why do some repos say Ign and others Hit?
[16:03] <cillo564> how to change screen resolution to 1920x1280, in the display settings I can change resultion up to 1024x768
[16:03] <TorbenBeta> MrElendig, the problem is that it is not mine but from my father and I have no other.]
[16:03] <MrElendig> TorbenBeta: tar/cpio then
[16:04] <BluesKaj> BigTaxi, copy this and paste it into the terminal , lsmod |grep snd
[16:04] <BigTaxi> I did that.
[16:04] <JoshDreamland> Why's my volume control lagging?
[16:04] <TorbenBeta> MrElendig, example please (I'm not that versed in the CLI.
[16:04] <JoshDreamland> Is this another "feature"?
[16:04] <BigTaxi> Now what am I looking for
[16:05] <norway> im using ubuntu 11.10 an need to know how to use classic ubuntu as well please help
[16:05] <noodlr> hi, I'm having some problems with setting up name-based virtual hosting on ubuntu, would this be the right channel to look for help?
[16:05] <BluesKaj> the first module in the list , BigTaxi , copy and paste it here
[16:05] <zykotick9> cillo564, what video card?  "lspci | grep -i vga" if you aren't sure.
[16:05] <gaurav_dreamweav> by mistake i formatted my external hdd how i recover data from trhere i am using ubuntu 11.10
[16:05] <BigTaxi> snd_usb_audio         100880  0
[16:05] <Nisstyre> BluesKaj: why would he be grepping for sound modules when he has a problem with wireless?
[16:05] <auronandace> BluesKaj: BigTaxi has a tv card
[16:06] <Nisstyre> BigTaxi: anyway, is there a daemon script for pcmcia in /etc/init.d/ ?
[16:06] <Nisstyre> just do an ls /etc/init.d
[16:06] <BigTaxi> hang on
[16:06] <mgpcoe> Alternatively, is there a way to back out the last (x) days of Synaptic upgrades?
[16:06] <BluesKaj> uhoh , sry thought it was audio issues
[16:06] <BigTaxi> no such file or directory
[16:07] <BluesKaj> ok ...I'll leave it alone
[16:07] <BigTaxi> oh ait
[16:07] <BigTaxi> nvm typed it wrong
[16:07] <BigTaxi> i'm looking for a pcmcia script here?
[16:07] <cillo564> zykotick9, , I'm using virtual box
[16:07] <Nisstyre> BigTaxi: yes
[16:07] <zykotick9> cillo564, install the guest additions then
[16:08] <miez> heyyyy bitchezzz
[16:08] <BigTaxi> there is pcmciautils, and it is highlighted
[16:08] <Nisstyre> BigTaxi: that may be what you're looking for
[16:08] <miez> whazzz up :D
[16:08]  * BluesKaj slides away , back to my corner
[16:08] <noodlr> anyone up on name-based virtual hosting with apache2?
[16:08] <cillo564> zykotick9, installed without it was 800x600
[16:08] <TorbenBeta> Or anyone else: How to use tar/cpio to backup my fs?
[16:08] <miez> boobs
[16:08] <zykotick9> cillo564, try increasing the graphics memory in the vbox settings for the VM
[16:08] <norway> can u help me i have ubuntu 11.10 an want to use classic ubuntu as well
[16:09] <BigTaxi> so what do I do with it?
[16:09] <miez> sind hier deutsche ???
[16:09] <zykotick9> !notunity | norway
[16:09] <auronandace> !gnome2 | norway
[16:09] <miez> unngeee????
[16:09] <miez> JUUNGEEE
[16:09] <elgaton> miez: this is an english-speaking channel, try joining #ubuntu-de
[16:09] <miez> okk
[16:10] <miez>  i have just a bigg cock!!!!!!!
[16:10] <miez> do you want to seee it?????
[16:11] <haylo> i want to put sauerbraten game on a disk or usb APTonCD turned out to be startup disk creator. IS there a program i can use of does this have to be done at the command line?
[16:11] <BigTaxi> I have located the pcmciautils file in the init.d folder. Running it does nothing.
[16:11] <miez> höhö sauerbraten XDD
[16:11] <miez> cookieee
[16:12] <miez> i want sexxx
[16:12] <zykotick9> miez, please stop
[16:12] <cillo564> zykotick9, same resolution, i believe i have to do something with xrandr
[16:12] <haylo> i tried APTonCD but I want to actually just store the files, not create a start up disk
[16:12] <miez> SEEEXXX
[16:12] <miez>  moree
[16:12] <miez> SEEXXX
[16:12] <miez>  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:12] <zykotick9> cillo564, ? you might want to ask in #vbox
[16:12] <ServerTechLaptop> Okay Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot not booting, even in recovery mode.
[16:12] <JoshDreamland> !ops miez Spam, of the inappropriate kind
[16:12] <FloodBot1> miez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:13] <jwtiyar> gksu root doesnt show root folder ? why?
[16:13] <miez> please give me a blowjob
[16:13] <Gentoo64> jwtiyar: you want gksu nautilus
[16:13] <jwtiyar> Gentoo64, yes
[16:13] <miez> SEEXXX!!!!!
[16:13] <zykotick9> Gentoo64, do they?  ;)
[16:13] <miez> uhh yeaahhh boobs
[16:13] <BigTaxi> Nisstyre: Don't leave me now :(
[16:13] <dougl> anyone gonna ban miez ?
[16:14] <haylo> ubottu APTonCD sucked is there another way to do this sauerbraten-disk thing?
[16:14] <miez> i want a vagina
[16:14] <atxq> hey guys, I am looking for a good program to record my microphone. Any sugesstions?
[16:14] <Nisstyre> BigTaxi: have you done "pccardctl info" ?
[16:14] <auronandace> !offline | haylo
[16:14] <haylo> audacity is good recording
[16:14] <BigTaxi> wait wait i found the file in init.d. is that now what i needed?
[16:15] <Zta> I'm wonder if the Medibuntu resources are still necessary now that the ubuntu-restricted-extras package exists.
[16:15] <JC_Denton_> ive just installed video drivers for my intel gc as described on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo/ but i still cannot select a resolution native to my eee
[16:15] <sunjun> atxq: on android?
[16:15] <atxq> what ever happened to the default audio recorder in ubuntu? gone
[16:15] <ServerTechLaptop> Any help? Ubuntu 11.10 not booting after the unlock harddrive screen, and the characters on that screen are in like blocks, and it doesn't pass the loading screen in recovery mode.
[16:15] <BigTaxi> yes, i have done pccardctl infor
[16:15] <Nisstyre> BigTaxi: try running it
[16:15] <BigTaxi> running it does nothing
[16:15] <zykotick9> haylo, you could copy the sauerbraten debs from /var/cache/apt/archives and simply copy them onto the other machine
[16:15] <haylo> i dont want to download onto another machine- i want to be able to put this open source program on usb like I know should be possible ubottu
[16:15] <Nisstyre> BigTaxi: try using your card now
[16:15] <zykotick9> Zta, in some cases yes
[16:16] <drake01> ok.. Here is a sequence of steps I followed to get show command in ubuntu.. In terminal, step 1: type show.. It shows The program 'show' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:sudo apt-get install nmh.. step2: In terminal sudo apt-get install nmh step3: again type show in terminal.. It again shows  The program 'show' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install nmh.. Any explanations?... Bug???
[16:16] <appy> An older gentleman would like speech to text software (he's slightly dyslexic). Is there any open source software, or even payable software such as the dragon software?
[16:16] <Zta> zykotick9: hardcore builds of ffmpeg and friends are still from medibuntu?
[16:16] <auronandace> Nisstyre: BigTaxi is trying to get a tv card working, not a wireless
[16:16] <Nisstyre> auronandace: I know
[16:16] <haylo> kk, so when i open them it will say do you want to install this deb file with package installer- then i do and it DLs some dependecncies and i get nothing
[16:16] <auronandace> Nisstyre: ok, sorry
[16:16] <zykotick9> Zta, ffmpeg in Ubuntu will lack AAC support - required for MP4 files
[16:17] <ServerTechLaptop> Any help? Ubuntu 11.10 not booting after the unlock harddrive screen, and the characters on that screen are in like blocks, and it doesn't pass the loading screen in recovery mode.
[16:17] <haylo> zykotick9 am i on the right track at least?
[16:17] <Zta> zykotick9: thanks
[16:17] <jwtiyar> ??
[16:17] <zykotick9> haylo, i have no idea...
[16:18] <haylo> kk i copy files- put them on other machine- then install them with deb type pakage installer?
[16:18] <BigTaxi> I still cannot find the card
[16:18] <haylo> does that at least sound sort of correct?
[16:18] <jwtiyar> how to get root folder with gksu nautilus?
[16:19] <zykotick9> haylo, that's one option, or copy the DEBs to /var/cache/apt/archives and use the package manager
[16:19] <Gentoo64> jwtiyar:
[16:19] <JC_Denton_> ive installed GMA500 'Poulsbo' drivers but they dont seem to be activated, even after a restart as i cannot select a native resolution. any ideas? thanks
[16:19] <Gentoo64> jwtiyar: move to it
[16:19] <zykotick9> jwtiyar, do you mean / or /root?  browser to either.  fyi "gksu nautilus" isn't the greatest idea
[16:19] <zykotick9> s/browser/browse/
[16:19] <haylo> so the package manager will try to pull them from the computer first? possibly it wil tel me what dependencies i need as well?
[16:20] <Gentoo64> zykotick9: can you hilight my nick plz?
[16:20] <Gentoo64> soryr
[16:20] <zykotick9> Gentoo64, no ;)
[16:20] <Gentoo64> ty
[16:20] <venluckey> hi gentoo64
[16:20] <jwtiyar> zykotick9, how ? i want to dellete some files tehy have permissions
[16:20] <zykotick9> haylo, if you use the apt cahce and package manager yes.
[16:20] <haylo> zykotick9 thank you i will look for this apt cache! :)
[16:21] <ServerTechLaptop> anyone ._.
[16:21] <sagaci> jwtiyar: then you could just sudo rm the specific files
[16:21] <Gentoo64> zykotick9: sorry one more time?
[16:21] <zykotick9> jwtiyar, what file(s) are you trying to remove?
[16:21] <zykotick9> Gentoo64, no ;) :)
[16:22] <jwtiyar> zykotick9, its lots of files in folders i want to delete folders
[16:22] <zykotick9> jwtiyar, ok - well have fun (possibly breaking your system)
[16:22] <BigTaxi> Nisstyre: How would one normally find something in the PCMCIA slot? I dont know what it would look like if it WAS working
[16:23] <shafiq_> Please help -- I'm completely lost in how to repair my system.  I was resizing a partition in a diagnostic manager; it failed (i forget the error -- something about needing to run a chkdisk).  i reboot my dualboot system, and i get the grub rescue.  I managed to see that there is a partially created partition (the one that failed).  How do I run a "chkdisk" on my entire system -- all partitions,
[16:23] <shafiq_> etc.  Thank you.
[16:24] <Nisstyre> BigTaxi: I've never owned a pcmcia card
[16:24] <ralphieh> point of information. I reinstalled release 10.04 over my 11.xx system and it is working quite well while i had all kinds of problems with the 11.10 versions
[16:24] <BigTaxi> ah
[16:24] <kermit> on a macbook pro, changing virtual desktops is really slow.. im using nvidia's driver though.
[16:25] <venluckey> im a hvac student, any one know of usefull apps for hvac
[16:25] <zykotick9> ralphieh, i'm shocked (oh, no I'm not)
[16:25] <ralphieh> :)
[16:25] <ServerTechLaptop> Any help? Ubuntu 11.10 not booting after the unlock harddrive screen, and the characters on that screen are in like blocks, and it doesn't pass the loading screen in recovery mode.
[16:26] <dougl> venluckey, you can install over the range exhaust fan - dunno any apps tho?
[16:26] <venluckey> lol, thanks gougl
[16:26] <venluckey> dougl
[16:26] <ralphieh> all of the above
[16:26] <dougl> venluckey, ?
[16:27] <venluckey> thanks, dougl
[16:27] <dougl> venluckey, I was wondering if you knew how to do this?
[16:27] <venluckey> yeah i do
[16:27] <shafiq_> can someone please tell me how to run a "chkdisk" on my ext4 partition through livecd?
[16:27] <dougl> pm?
[16:27] <dougl> venluckey, pm?
[16:28] <ralphieh> thanks zykotick9
[16:28] <auronandace> !fsck | shafiq_
[16:28] <dougl> venluckey, I cannot help you find hvac apps but I would like to chat with you about installing my over the range exhaust hood.
[16:28] <ServerTechLaptop> Any help? Ubuntu 11.10 not booting after the unlock harddrive screen, and the characters on that screen are in like blocks, and it doesn't pass the loading screen in recovery mode.
[16:28] <FerchoLP> This is a silly question, but I'd like to ask it anyway. I have "/" mounted from sda10 . If I delete sda9 and sda8, will that decrease the sda10 number to sda8? should I delete partitions and change sda10 by sda8 in fstab?
[16:29] <zykotick9> !repeat | ServerTechLaptop
[16:29] <lafon> !paste
[16:29] <An_Ony_Moose> Is it possible to spoof MAC addresses with NetworkManager active? (and is the topic even allowed here?)
[16:31] <lafon> I got this error when trying to mount a hdd http://imagebin.org/181453
[16:31] <zykotick9> An_Ony_Moose, check out macchanger or macchanger-gtk (not sure how it will play out with N-M though)
[16:32] <An_Ony_Moose> zykotick9: thanks
[16:33] <benhem> Hi, I am trying to get compiz playing nicely with gnome 2.  I have compiz and fusion-icon installed, but when I use that to switch the window manager to 'compiz', I get compiz functions but no menubars (decorate/move/resize), and no wallpaper.  If I switch back to 'metacity,' I get all those things, but no compiz function.  Ubuntu 10.11, AMD64, thanks in advance!
[16:33] <jacquesdupontd> re
[16:34] <jacquesdupontd> ok i've tried every possible things but it remains the same since my update to 11.10 windows background are black and i can't do anything about it , same problem with highlighting , all the side bar of nautilus is black on black
[16:34] <zykotick9> benhem, personally, i'd try install fusion-icon and see if the "reload" option gives the menus back.  Good luck.
[16:34] <FerchoLP> go to settings manager, search for Window Decoration and disable it and reenableit
[16:34] <benhem> zykotick9: it doesn't
[16:34] <FerchoLP> benhem: go to settings manager, search for Window Decoration and disable it and reenableit
[16:35] <jacquesdupontd> can someone tell me about an working solution please , i reinstalled every light themes , gnome tweak , gnome color change and so on ...
[16:35] <BluesKaj> ok , I'm over my embarassment .. I'l scroll up to see the real problem from now on  instead of assuming :)
[16:35] <zykotick9> benhem, but other compiz stuff is working?  like you could have the cube but no menus?
[16:35] <ServerTechLaptop> Okay could i get  a backup somehow, of some important files in ubuntu 11.10, if its not booting up?
[16:35] <kermit> many system/preferences settings i change get undone as soon as i close the preferences window, what is broken and how do i fix it?
[16:35] <benhem> zykotick9: right, in my case what I really want is the 'negative' plugin for inverting a single window
[16:35] <benhem> so I get that, but no menubars
[16:36] <benhem> FerchoLP: ok, that was disabled.  I'll try that
[16:37] <benhem> WOOO
[16:37] <benhem> thanks FerchoLP
[16:37] <zykotick9> FerchoLP, nice catch
[16:37] <FerchoLP> :) I'm also trying to deal with some compiz issues since yesterday
[16:38] <smokinjublies> anyone's 11.10 download hang up on the last package download?
[16:38] <jeffrey_> is this the ubuntu help
[16:39] <pangolin> jeffrey_: it is
[16:39] <jeffrey_> i haven problems with my 5.1 sound card
[16:39] <smokinjublies> Ubuntu support not the same thing?
[16:41] <benhem> FerchoLP: ok, now my only complaint is that I seem to have to run fusion-icon and select 'reload window manager' every time I log in
[16:42] <SpiderFred> what is best command line client for jabber?
[16:43] <jacquesdupontd> anyone to tell me how to change that annoying black background color in synpatic that didn't changed after 11.10 update , same for nautilus
[16:43] <pangolin> jeffrey_: please ask your questions in the channel so that others who may know the answer can help and give a little more detail
[16:43] <jpba> Boa tarde
[16:43] <jacquesdupontd> any hint ?
[16:43] <jeffrey_> ok
[16:43] <jpba> Precisava de uma ajuda, caso alguém saiba
[16:44] <pangolin> !br | jpds
[16:44] <pangolin> jpba: ^^
[16:44] <antnash> !ncurses
[16:44] <jacquesdupontd> i reinstalled all light themes with original ones , supressed all themes in ./themes , now i don't see what i can do i even erased what was in .gtk*
[16:45] <jeffrey_> i have a realtec alc 861 5.1 sound card i useing ubuntu 10.10 it olng works just one pair of my speakers
[16:45] <sagaci> jacquesdupontd: should be a setting in synaptic
[16:46] <zykotick9> jacquesdupontd, if it's just an issue with your login account, you could create a new user, move your files (but not settings) to the new account.  good luck.
[16:46] <jpba> Hello... i install the ubuntu 11.40, but i have a problem whit the nvidia card...
[16:46] <jeffrey_> it do no not work on the center are back sound channales
[16:46] <FerchoLP> maybe you can add "gtk-window-decorator --replace --metacity-theme Clearlooks"   at start of x
[16:46] <FerchoLP> gtk-window-decorator --replace --metacity-theme NAMEOFYOURTHEME
[16:47] <FerchoLP> you should add that line to autostart
[16:47] <meowsus> I'm trying to help a friend install Ubuntu on his machine, but i'm running Lubuntu. What is the remote desktop software Ubuntu has by default? I want to install it on my machine so i can connect to his machine and help him install it
[16:47] <jpba> i receive these message: Unable to load X Server Display Configuration page:
[16:47] <jpba> Failed to query NoScanout for screen 0.
[16:47] <jpba> help :)
[16:48] <FerchoLP> benhem:try adding       gtk-window-decorator --replace --metacity-theme NAMEOFYOURTHEME        to autostart
[16:48] <benhem> FerchoLP: ok, trying that
[16:48] <FerchoLP> I've got to go, see you later :)
[16:48] <jpba> my monitor is a HP D2837
[16:50] <rlivin> will someone help me set up sharing between ubuntu in virtual box and windows7?
[16:50] <what> oneiric's default resolution is too high, i can't see grub menu or any other screen, console resolution is too high
[16:51] <BigTaxi> Nisstyre: How can I tell if I /etc/init.d/pcmciautils did anyhing?
[16:51] <blip-> Hiz, what's a sure fire way to check if i have 32bit or 64 ubuntu ?
[16:51] <blip-> uname output doesn't seem to be decisive
[16:51] <blip-> from what i read
[16:51] <jeffrey_> i useing ubuntu 10.10  with realtec alc 861 how i get 5.1 sound to work   help
[16:51] <noodlr> anyone up on name-based virtual hosting with apache2?
[16:52] <benhem> FerchoLP: ok.  one thing.  gtk-window-decorator --replace --metacity-theme compiz   <-- in .config/autostart ?
[16:52] <blip-> uname -r -> 3.0.0-12-generia-pae
[16:52] <jpba> Help... Unable to load X Server Display Configuration page:
[16:52] <jpba> Failed to query NoScanout for screen 0.
[16:52] <jpba> its a nvidia card
[16:52] <zykotick9> blip-, "uname -m" will show the userland bit install, it's possible to have a 64bit kernel on a 32bit system, but that's uncommon
[16:52] <meowsus> rlivin, you can use samba for this.
[16:52] <zykotick9> blip-, PAE = 32 bit you are using
[16:53] <ServerTechLaptop> Any help? Ubuntu 11.10 not booting after the unlock harddrive screen, and the characters on that screen are in like blocks, and it doesn't pass the loading screen in recovery mode.
[16:53] <blip-> zykotick9, uname -m says i686
[16:53] <zykotick9> blip-, yes and PAE=32 as well
[16:53] <meowsus> rlivin, if you install the "samba" and "system-config-samba" package you can set up a share on your Ubuntu Host that Windows 7 can see in My Network Places
[16:53] <Chraz_Ritt> hi folks, i would like to change the order of choices in grub, but i can't find out where the file to edit is, any suggestions?
[16:53] <jpds> blip-: Yes, that's 32-bit.
[16:53] <blip-> sounds good
[16:53] <blip-> thanks zykotick9 and jpds
 thanks, will try
[16:54] <pkkm> Chraz_Ritt, Are you using GRUB 1, 1.9x or 2?
[16:54] <zykotick9> pkkm, grub1.9 = grub2 BTW
[16:54] <pkkm> I know
[16:55] <Chraz_Ritt> pkkm, i'm using the grub that came with ubuntu 11.10
[16:55] <meowsus> rlivin, once the packages are installed, you can edit the samba configuration through the item it adds to, either, System or Preferences in the main menu
[16:55] <meowsus> It's pretty basic
[16:56] <jeffrey_> HELP WITH MY SOUND CARD
[16:56] <rlivin> ty
[16:58] <randomusr> how do I end gnome and drop to runlevel 3?
[16:59] <zykotick9> randomusr, you can't.
[16:59] <zykotick9> !runlevels | randomusr
[16:59] <antnash> Hey guys. I'm trying to run make menuconfig and it's telling me I have to install ncurses. I've installed libncurses5-dev but it's still not working.
[16:59] <pkkm> Chraz_Ritt, the menu config files are in /etc/grub.d . After editing or moving files (as root), launch "sudo update-grub" in terminal. GRUB will then generate the menu from the files in the aforementioned directory. They are processed in shell glob order (0->1->2->...->a->b->...), so to change the menu order all you need to do is rename files. I advise to make a backup of the directory.
[16:59] <jpba> Help: Unable to load X Server Display Configuration page:
[16:59] <jpba> Failed to query NoScanout for screen 0.
[16:59] <zykotick9> randomusr, stop Xorg (though your DM of choice, to drop to console only)
[17:00] <jpba> Nvidia MX440SE 8x whit a HP monitor
[17:00] <randomusr> zykotick9, how to do this on 10.10?
[17:00] <Chraz_Ritt> pkkm, thanks a bunch
[17:00] <zykotick9> randomusr, "sudo service gdm stop" will do it temporarily
[17:00] <written> why does in 11.10 .screenrc gets ignored?
[17:01] <randomusr> zykotick9, should that suffice for installing the nvidia binary driver?
[17:01] <zykotick9> randomusr, that's a bad idea (nvidia) - but yes.
[17:02] <antnash> Anyone got any idea why I'm still being told to install ncurses to run make menuconfig, when I've already installed it?
[17:08] <Somelauw> What would be a cool way to change background every 30 seconds? I want to do it myself. Should I write a bash script that does it?
[17:09] <gpeart> anyone know how to enable in Asterisk ILBC, in ubuntu 11.10
[17:09] <gpeart> ?
[17:09] <Chraz_Ritt> this may sound silly, but is an account listed as an admin account equal to being logged in as root?
[17:10] <zykotick9> Chraz_Ritt, an admin member can use sudo - so "sort of" ;)
[17:10] <kushiel_> hello. i have php-fpm running with nginx on ubuntu 10.04 and i'm trying to figure out how to setup separate php process pool for individual user accounts. something similar to this guide which explains how to do it on 10.10 - http://themesforge.com/performance/configuring-nginx-php5-fpm-and-user-permissions/ - except that doesn't work on ubuntu 10.04 because there is no pool.d
[17:11] <Chraz_Ritt> zykotick9: i'm asking in connection with the advice that pkkm gave me above
[17:13] <zykotick9> Chraz_Ritt, where they say "..(as root)" just use sudo
[17:14] <vaio> hi, is it possible to use acom multi flash reader with ubuntu?
[17:15] <dD0T> What do you have to do to get a new screenshot of a software into the Ubuntu Software Center? The one for Mumble is rather outdated by now ;-)
[17:15] <ninjah> Are there any wifi tools to do a site survey?
[17:15] <ninjah> I need dbm information
[17:16] <gaurav_sood91> hi all. i just installed ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop. i am facing issues regarding the installation of the amd radeon hd drivers and need assistance in that
[17:17] <gaurav_sood91> because of the lack of drivers installed, i am unable to do use power profiles, face heating as well
[17:18] <gaurav_sood91> i downloaded the proprietary drivers from the amd site. then i need to know what to do
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[17:19] <enix316> I have a problem using scp. Details here #
[17:19] <enix316> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo scp -r -P 8855 /media/c4f218a5-68bd-4a4a-994a-8fbbcd869355/home/ev/ ev@192.168.0.101:/home/ev/backupev
[17:19] <enix316> #
[17:19] <enix316> #
[17:20] <FloodBot1> enix316: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:20] <randomusr> zykotick9: thanks for your help. My desktop effects was not working so I dropped to command line and ran the nvidia installer (Binary) and w00t my desktop affects are working again
[17:20] <randomusr> basically a reinstall of the driver
[17:21] <zykotick9> randomusr, nice work - too bad about the binary nvidia (hope it doesn't lead to issues down the road for ya)
[17:22] <Akiraa> What's a way to shutdown a linux system over ssh from windows? I am using a putty script like this: plink -ssh 192.168.33.33 -l myuser -pw mypass -batch -m commands.txt, and commands.txt contains just "sudo shutdown -P +2" (shutdown in 2 minutes). But, I get the error: "sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified"
[17:22] <enix316> i am having a problem with scp, i need a proof read of my synatx. deatils here #
[17:22] <enix316> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo scp -r -P 8855 /media/c4f218a5-68bd-4a4a-994a-8fbbcd869355/home/ev/ ev@192.168.0.101:/home/ev/backupev
[17:22] <enix316> #
[17:22] <enix316> #
[17:22] <FloodBot1> enix316: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:22] <randomusr> zykotick9, the promlem apparently happened while I was installing some additional nvidia stuff from ubuntu repos that didn't like the driver. I'm going to use backports whenever possible from now
[17:22] <benhem> I've got the compiz/gnome thing working, but I can't figure out how to get compiz loading properly on login without running fusion-icon/"reload window manager"
[17:22] <rabbi1> how to fix the size of terminal window, during startup?
[17:22] <benhem> I see .config/sessions, but it only contains saved-session.  no autostart file I can find
[17:22] <benhem> thanks in advance
[17:23] <randomusr> I'm out
[17:23] <JC_Denton_> ive installed GMA500 'Poulsbo' drivers but they dont seem to be activated, even after a restart as i cannot select a native resolution. any ideas? thanks
[17:23] <benhem> rabbi1: https://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/applications_gui_multimedia/how_set_default_size_gnometerminal
[17:24] <enix316> #
[17:24] <enix316> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo scp -r -P 8855 /media/c4f218a5-68bd-4a4a-994a-8fbbcd869355/home/ev/ ev@192.168.0.101:/home/ev/backupev
[17:24] <enix316> #
[17:24] <zykotick9> rabbi1, if you are using proprietary graphics drivers - it's probably a lot easier to just ignore the low resolution (if that's your issue)
[17:25] <BadDesign> Anyone knows how to open local .rdp files?
[17:25] <rabbi1> zykotick9: lol, had 15" CRT till date, got 20" LED. so some window i don't need to be bigger (google chrome) and some i want to be bigger (terminal window)
[17:25] <rabbi1> zykotick9: i got AMD athlon X2 64 bit with nvidia inbuilt
[17:26] <atannus> I figured it out. My friend had replaced the ram module with an 800Mhz and the MB was 667. He told me that after 12 hours and about 15 attempts. System is up and healthy now.
[17:26] <zykotick9> rabbi1, i don't understand your origional question then.  What does ".. during startup" have to do with window size?
[17:27] <Akiraa> How do you send sudo commands from plink (PUTTY) through SSH to a linux host? I can send regular commands, but not sudo. The error is: "sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified"
[17:27] <Zelda> Hello. How do I change themes on 11.10 from Ambience. There are a few options but I dont like any of them. How do I get more options?
[17:27] <rabbi1> zykotick9: sorry, not startup,
[17:27] <rabbi1> zykotick9: i actually wanted to say "while i open a new window"
[17:28] <zykotick9> rabbi1, open the window - set it to the correct size.  Close the window and reopen it and see if it remember the size.
[17:28] <rabbi1> zykotick9: it's not, so got in here
[17:29] <zykotick9> rabbi1, i have no suggestions sorry.  good luck.
[17:29] <moldy> hi
[17:29] <evil_server> hi
[17:29] <rabbi1> zykotick9: thank you, thats ok
[17:29] <Friar> I am trying to put an external hard drive on my headless server, and it isn't automounting. I want to get a bunch of movies off of it to put on the server. I figured it would be a bit quicker if I actually just put the USB drive into the server as opposed to my laptop. how can I mount it.
[17:30] <Zelda> anybody?
[17:30] <hank_> hey all how would i go about doing a network installation for xp through jolicloud :/
[17:30] <mod> i915 sucks ass
[17:31] <zykotick9> Friar, is this a FAT or NTFS formatted drive or ext#?
[17:31] <moldy> on one of my ubuntu machines, "pdflatex <anyfile>"  goes into an endless loop, using 99% cpu time. can anyone give me a hint on how to debug this?
[17:31] <Friar> I don't know exactly, but it works just fine on my ubuntu laptop. it also works on windows machines. I don't remember what I formatted it at zykotick9
[17:32] <zykotick9> hank_, jolicloud isn't supported in #ubuntu
[17:32] <zykotick9> Friar, if it works on windows it's FAT/NTFS.  I can't help you - good luck.
[17:32] <hank_> wheres the best channel
[17:33] <DivineEntity> now I have seen everything this is a Christian edition of ubuntu ..
[17:33] <zykotick9> hank_, the 7 people in #jolicloud or ##windows
[17:33] <pkkm> Is the GNOME Color Manager going to make my whole desktop or just color-managed applications display in correct colors on a wide-gamut monitor?
[17:34] <DivineEntity> jesus approved operating system
[17:34] <hank_> #jolicloud
[17:34] <LaFlakitaBnAsika> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[17:34] <pangolin> !ot > DivineEntity
[17:34] <mauro> good evening
[17:34] <mauro> how i can enable hdmi output on my laptop?
[17:35] <mauro> i have a nvidia gt 525m
[17:35] <mauro> and i have installed ironhide
[17:35] <zykotick9> !enter | mauro
[17:35] <DivineEntity> how is that ironhide stuff working for you ?
[17:35] <mauro> DivineEntity, yes it works well
[17:36] <DivineEntity> I'm wary of buying an nvidia optimus laptop
[17:36] <Friar> anybody else know about mounting a USB drive? I found it in /dev/by-id, so i know it is there, it just didn't show up in /media where I expected it.
[17:36] <LaFlakitaBnAsika> spanish??
[17:36] <zykotick9> !es | LaFlakitaBnAsika
[17:36] <mauro> DivineEntity, i have a dell xps 15
[17:36] <mauro> and it work well
[17:37] <DivineEntity> have you tried any games with it ?
[17:37] <mauro> i'm capable to switch between nvidia and ati graphic card
[17:37] <mauro> no, no one games
[17:37] <pangolin> DivineEntity and mauro if you wish to chat about non-ubuntu related topics please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:38] <mauro> sorry
[17:38] <pangolin> This is the Ubuntu support channel.
[17:38] <mauro> i'm here to have support :
[17:38] <mauro> :D
[17:38] <DivineEntity> well we are talking about ubuntu's support for Nvidia optimus ....
[17:38] <pkkm> Friar, To manually mount a drive follow the steps: 1. create a directory in which you are going to mount the drive 2. execute in terminal: sudo mount /dev/<device> <directory>
[17:38] <mod> ANyone know how to get replace the i915 intel drive with the i965 driver ?   when I do a lshw -c video I see i915, when I do vainfo, I see i965 ... not sure what's going on
[17:38] <EnD-Dolev> Friar does it appear with lsscsi / fdisk -l ?
[17:38] <_joey> you are missing pygtk2-libglade
[17:38] <ubuntu_> alguem poderia ajudar?
[17:39] <_joey> what package do I need to install?
[17:39] <mauro> how i can anable hdmi output with nvidia gt 525m?
[17:39] <pangolin> !br | ubuntu_
[17:39] <mod> my 3d applications certainly are not working better
[17:40] <Friar> EnD-Dolev, I think it does with fdisk -l.  I have one disk that shows up as NTFS.
[17:41] <JC_Denton_> ive just installed video drivers for my intel gc as described on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo/ but i still cannot select a resolution native to my eee
[17:41] <meowsus> So i'm trying to change my keybindings for my terminal to Mod-T (or Super - T) but all that does is open up the trash
[17:41] <meowsus> And theres no setting to change that, from what i can see, in the keyboard bindings section
[17:41] <meowsus> I'm using Ubuntu Oneiric
[17:41] <aguitel> How To Upgrade Ubuntu via the Console or Terminal ?
[17:42] <zykotick9> aguitel, "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get upgrade" -- or do you mean to a new version of ubuntu?
[17:42] <aguitel> zykotick9, new version
[17:42] <zykotick9> aguitel, ignore my reply then
[17:42] <aguitel> zykotick9, new version (11.04 to 11.10)
[17:42] <qrwteyrutiyoup> aguitel, "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[17:43] <aguitel> qrwteyrutiyoup, no gui nedeed ?
[17:45] <qrwteyrutiyoup> aguitel, no gui needed
[17:45] <aguitel> qrwteyrutiyoup, thanks
[17:45] <Zelda> anyone know how to get more themes for 11.10?
[17:47] <josh99> after upgrading to 11.10 i can't print anymore. there is a solution but i don't understand it - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/872711  can someone guide me?
[17:49] <xterminus> i recompiled python-curl against openssl instead of the default to fix an odd bug, it works.  Anyway, now everytime I run apt-get upgrade, it tries to upgrade python-curl over the top of my own package.  Is there a way to "lock" a package so it won't be upgraded except manually?
[17:49] <Hakim> hello
[17:49] <AndreiC> Is there a way to configure the encryption algorithm used by Deja Dup?
[17:49] <Gentoo64> Hakim: hi
[17:49] <auronandace> !pin | xterminus
[17:49] <Hakim> how do you configure the multi desktop ?
[17:50] <Hakim> i have 4 by default, and i'd like to have only 3
[17:50] <xterminus> ubottu: thx
[17:50] <zykotick9> Hakim, ccsm / general / desktop size tab
[17:50] <morko> josh99, you have to apply the patch to kernel source code and then compile the kernel yourself
[17:50] <Hakim> thank you
[17:50] <morko> josh99, it takes some reading and learning
[17:53] <SupaYoshi> Hi, I installed startup manager and set the grub menu to 1 second, or maybe even 0. I now need to set the time back to 3 seconds or so, though, I can only start in Windows now as that is default. Can someone tell me how to make the time longer again, without loosing mY windows installation
[17:53] <morko> josh99, or use some newer precompiled kernel package that allready has the patch applied
[17:53] <Gentoo64> SupaYoshi: hold shift i think
[17:53] <Gentoo64> SupaYoshi: on boot
[17:54] <Hakim> sorry, how do i access ccsm ? i'm a beginner
[17:54] <tomodachi> SupaYoshi: /etc/default/grub  containts the timeout setting
[17:54] <urlin2u> Hakim, ccsm in the terminal
[17:54] <tomodachi> SupaYoshi:  edit the GRUB_TIMEOUT=  value  then run sudo update-grub to update grub with the changes
[17:54] <josh99> morko: thanks, i'll google for 'appy' kernel patch'
[17:54] <Hakim> ok, i probably need to install it
[17:54] <zykotick9> Hakim, the package is compizconfig-settings-manager
[17:55] <Hakim> yeah thank you :) zykotick9
[17:55] <urlin2u> Hakim, yeah install compiz config manager then it is just a app with a gui
[17:55] <Hakim> ok thank you guys :)
[17:55] <sroecker> josh99: did you try the new kernel from proposed? you don't have to compile it yourself
[17:56] <Henry_R> hello everyone, i hope this question belongs here, i have 2 .bin files that are supposed to be identical but apparently although they have the exact same size they have different md5 checksum, now since they are binaries there isn't much i can do but is there any way to know what the differences between the 2 are (obviously it won't be something i'll understand but even ASCII would do, i thought of something like diff for .bin files if that makes sense)
[17:56] <Henry_R> ? thanks in advance
[17:56] <TheCowboy> Is there a way to force install a package? A bug with Ubuntu that still hasen't been fixed is keeping me from installing it.
[17:56] <Zelda> how do I get more themes?
[17:56] <Gentoo64> Zelda: google for ubuntu 11.10 themes
[17:57] <sroecker> Henry_R: bsdiff
[17:57] <Zelda> well there are 4 themes. I want something different.
[17:57] <Zelda> Ill google it. I was looking around the wiki and no help
[17:57] <Gentoo64> Zelda: theres not many atm
[17:57] <Henry_R> sroecker: thank you! much appreciated I'm giving it a look right now :)
[17:58] <Zelda> ok. So the 4 that are there, are the only ones atm?
[17:58] <Gentoo64> Zelda: afaik theres only a few for the new gnome
[17:58] <Zelda> yeah. ok. How do I run classic in11.10?
[17:58] <zykotick9> !notunity | Zelda
[17:58] <Gentoo64> i think sites like omgubuntu and webupd8 post themes and stuff
[17:58] <morko> josh99, like sroecker said the easiest way is to install newer kernel where the patch is allready applied
[17:58] <Zelda> sweet thanks zykotick9
[17:59] <Jragon> Hi
[17:59] <zykotick9> Zelda, it won't help with your themes
[17:59] <auronandace> !gnome2 | Zelda
[17:59] <Jragon> How can I make each differant monitor a different desktop?
[17:59] <FerchoLP> I have two Ubuntu failed installation due to problem with dvd drive, and I got through this bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/782507). Now I have four swap partitions. The question is: Now my "/" is on sda10 and I have swap on sda5 (the one I had from previous install)  , sda8, sda9 (the two failed installations)   and sda11 (the succesful installation
[17:59] <Henry_R> sroecker: i hope you don't mind if i ask but would comparing the hexedit results (with diff) be reliable too? thats what i already done (i'm on a slow connection so installing bsdiff will take a while)
[17:59] <sasha_> quit
[17:59] <hakim> !notunity
[18:00] <GodFather> howto alias dummy ethernet interfaces in Oneiric
[18:00] <Gentoo64> FerchoLP: a mess then... id clean install after wiping them all out
[18:00] <FerchoLP> if I delete sda8, sda9, will sda10 be decremented?
[18:00] <Zelda> zykotick9: darn. ok. No complaints about gnome. Its great just want to get the window optinos on the right and not left. im not on a MAC.
[18:00] <sroecker> Henry_R: sorry, bsdiff only gives you a small patch file. I guess you're more interested in a visual way
[18:00] <Zelda> I guess I'll deal with it atm.
[18:01] <zykotick9> Zelda, lol, the !controls factoid use to link to my site for directions on moving them - not sure how it's done on modern ubuntu versions though.  Good luck.
[18:01] <Henry_R> sroecker: what about what i just tried?
[18:01] <Chraz_Ritt> pkkm: how do i get the rename option to not be grayed out in /etc/grub.d?
[18:02] <Henry_R> sroecker: because even getting it on txt from hexedit (copy and paste) gives the same amount of lines / same size but different md5
[18:02] <zykotick9> Chraz_Ritt, it's due to permissions
[18:02] <Zelda> zykotick9: yeah. thats all I want. I like the themes and all but I want to get them on the right not left. ;-) I'll deal with it. Its not a big thing, more of a preferance.
[18:02] <sroecker> Henry_R: I guess you can try that
[18:02] <FerchoLP> I can't delete sda8 and sda9 if sda10 is mounted, what makes me think that sda10 may turn into sda8 after deleting sda8 and sda9 :/
[18:02] <Chraz_Ritt> do i have to actually create a user account named root?
[18:02] <auronandace> !noroot | Chraz_Ritt
[18:02] <zykotick9> Chraz_Ritt, NO!  it already exists.
[18:03] <Henry_R> sroecker: yeah i did try that, diff says there are no differences but md5sum doesnt seem to agree...
[18:03] <ttt> anybody wants to talk about the cloud ? getting starter .. v10.04 or 11 better?
[18:03] <sroecker> Henry_R: or try vbindiff (32kb)
[18:03] <Chraz_Ritt> and why can't i see it when i look for it?
[18:03] <samos123> !no-unity
[18:04] <samos123> !notunity
[18:04] <zykotick9> Chraz_Ritt, oh it's there "cat /etc/passwd | grep root" in a terminal for proof
[18:04] <auronandace> ttt: cloud is an awful buzzword for internet based storage
[18:04] <Chraz_Ritt> auronandace: where do you get the idea that i'm talking about that?
[18:05] <zykotick9> auronandace, fog is a better term ;)
[18:05] <An_Ony_Moose> is there a way to configure X11 input device options usually set via xorg.conf or the like at runtime?
[18:05] <Zelda> anyone have ideas to help me with my HDMI port?
[18:05] <auronandace> Chraz_Ritt: you were talking about making a root account
[18:05] <josh99> sroecker: i just added the line to sources.list and run 'aptitude update' and 'uptitude upgrade'. what packages should i install now?
[18:06] <Gentoo64> An_Ony_Moose: you can make an xorg.conf
[18:06] <urlin2u> zykotick9, lol the fog blocks the object your about to hit before it is to late. :D
[18:06] <josh99> (the line to proposed)
[18:06] <reisio> An_Ony_Moose: why at runtime
[18:06] <Gentoo64> josh99: a kernel
[18:06] <urlin2u> flog*
[18:06] <sroecker> josh99: linux-image-generic
[18:06] <Zelda> the system doesnt even recognize the hardware
[18:06] <sroecker> josh99:  you should see that it downloads from the proposed archive
[18:06] <An_Ony_Moose> Gentoo64 reisio: so I can test the settings without having to restart the X server every time. Is this not possible?
[18:06] <Chraz_Ritt> yes, i was asking if i needed to make one, where does that ask how to make a root password?
[18:07] <Gentoo64> An_Ony_Moose: not sure
[18:07] <reisio> An_Ony_Moose: but you have to restart to run another test, don't you?
[18:07] <Gentoo64> An_Ony_Moose: what are you trying to change
[18:07] <tdn> I have just installed 11.10. When I boot up it waits for network configuration. This is before X starts. Why is this? It did not do that in earlier versions. It is extremely annoying. It makes bootup time take several minutes.
[18:07] <tdn> How do I disable this?
[18:07] <Chraz_Ritt> you might try reading what i actually say instead of assuming
[18:07] <auronandace> Chraz_Ritt: creating an account implies also creating a password
[18:08] <josh99> sroecker: aptitude install linux-image-generic ? i'll give it i try. thanks!
[18:08] <Chraz_Ritt> and asking if i need to creat something means that i don't know if i even need it
[18:08] <An_Ony_Moose> Gentoo64: I want to enable HorizTwoFingerScroll but I have a bunch of stuff open which I don't want to have to close
[18:08] <sroecker> josh99: yes. good luck
[18:08] <An_Ony_Moose> Gentoo64: mainly to see if it works
[18:08] <reisio> An_Ony_Moose: ah
[18:08] <urlin2u> Chraz_Ritt, relax the accuracy of eveybodies reads is questionable it is moving text with losts of subjects, take your angst out on the ones you love where it belongs.
[18:08] <josh99> sroecker: when i am done, should i remove the line from sources.list ?
[18:08] <reisio> An_Ony_Moose: startx -- :1 -br
[18:09] <zykotick9> An_Ony_Moose, have you tried "mouse" in preferences?
[18:09] <auronandace> Chraz_Ritt: hence why i shared the factiod with you
[18:09] <urlin2u> lots*
[18:09] <sroecker> josh99: you could theoretically. otherwise a few other packages might be upgraded
[18:10] <An_Ony_Moose> zykotick9: I'm using xubuntu and the GUI has never worked the way I wanted it to in the past. And, well, I just looked, and it doesn't have an option for it.
[18:10] <Chraz_Ritt> if you wanted to be of help you should have told me that it was already there, instead of setting the bit to tell me something i didn't need to be told
[18:10] <zykotick9> An_Ony_Moose, ah sorry that's a gnome option.  Good luck.
[18:10] <Chraz_Ritt> bot*
[18:10] <An_Ony_Moose> zykotick9: I never saw it in the GNOME GUI. Ah well.
[18:11] <urlin2u> !ot | Chraz_Ritt
[18:11] <zykotick9> An_Ony_Moose, Mouse / Touchpad tab - checkbox for multitouch.
[18:11] <trism> tdn: this is a result of the new behavior in /etc/init/failsafe.conf, as a workaround on my desktop I replace all the sleep statements with sleep 1 and it boots at the normal speed, see bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/839595
[18:11] <trism> tdn: it should only really affect people who configure their systems with /etc/network/interfaces
[18:12] <josh99> sroecker: after 'aptitude upgrade' i tried installing linux-image-generic but got: 'no packages will be installed, upgraded or removed'
[18:13] <Chraz_Ritt> i guess that ubuntu still isn't ready for me to want to use it, could someone please tell me how to safely remove grub?
[18:13] <josh99> sroecker: also 'aptitude search 3.0.0-13' doesn't show anything
[18:14] <Gentoo64> Chraz_Ritt: to install windows loader?
[18:14] <auronandace> Chraz_Ritt: if you remove grub, you'll need to install a different bootloader
[18:14] <sroecker> josh99: do you have i686 or x64? uname -m?
[18:14] <tomodachi> Chraz_Ritt: from windows recovery console you can reinstall your windows boot loader
[18:14] <Chraz_Ritt> to return to the windows loader
[18:14] <josh99> sroecker: i686
[18:15] <gsr> I did an nmap on my computer today, and found ssh running.  fuser told me its lshd, and whereis told me lshd is in /usr/sbin/lshd, but I can't find whats starting it at boot.  service and update-rc.d don't recognize it
[18:15] <gsr> and even `find /etc -iname *lshd* && grep -r "*lshd*" /etc return nothing
[18:16] <sroecker> josh99: Try to download it here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/i386/linux-image-3.0.0-13-generic
[18:16] <josh99> sroecker: ok. thanks
[18:17] <sroecker> josh99: wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/83063709/linux-image-3.0.0-13-generic_3.0.0-13.21_i386.deb and then dpkg -i linux*.deb
[18:17] <josh99> cool
[18:17] <auronandace> josh99: you sure it isn't already installed?
[18:18] <jess89> Hi, I am using a Dell Latitude XT and need to disable my digitizer screen. Can anyone help me? It's having a meltdown. Thanks. Done this before, but the new Ubuntu looks so different and I can't get into the terminal.
[18:18] <Gentoo64> jess89: should be on the left bar
[18:18] <josh99> auronandace: uname -r shows me 12
[18:18] <Gentoo64> jess89: or in the search thing type terminal
[18:18] <nico-_-> Anyone got a sec to help me with FD_SETSIZE and IRCD?
[18:19] <josh99> auronandace: also 'aptitude search 3.0.0-13' doesn't show anything
[18:19] <josh99> auronandace: (even after adding proposed to my sources and runnning update and upgrade)
[18:19] <auronandace> josh99: same here, can't you wait till its in the repos?
[18:20] <josh99> auronandace: i need to print some stuff..
[18:20] <auronandace> josh99: oh
[18:20] <jess89> Gentoo64: It doesn't find it...
[18:20] <xterminus> anyone know of a tool that'll run in the background and calculate replaygain on a large collection of mp3's?
[18:20]  * mang0 is away: Nomming
[18:20] <Gentoo64> jess89: not sure its search works.. try gnome-terminal
[18:21] <Gentoo64> how its search works*
[18:21] <Gentoo64> id guess terminal should show up though
[18:21] <zykotick9> xterminus, mp3gain perhaps?
[18:21] <alexxio_> hi!!
[18:21] <tdn> trism, the installer did that.
[18:21] <reisio> xterminus: just start it from inside screen
[18:21] <lafon> jess89: just click the ubuntu icon and type terminal it's the first one
[18:21] <jess89> There we go.
[18:21] <tdn> trism, configured eth0 in there.
[18:22] <reisio> xterminus: find path/to/start/at/ -iname '*.mp3' -exec whatevercommand {} \;
[18:22] <trism> tdn: yeah, there is a bug about that too, let me see if I can find it
[18:22] <alexxio_> is it possible to have triple monitor with ubuntu oniric? i mean normal notebook monitor + hdmi + vga
[18:22] <tdn> trism, this does not only happen on failsafe boot.
[18:22] <tdn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/console-common/+bug/881079
[18:22] <jess89> How can I shut off the drivers now?
[18:23] <jess89> It's using the open sourced ones apparently.
[18:23] <xterminus> zykotick9: thanks that might do the trick, i'd really hate to have to run a windows tool in wine or virtualbox when i can do it in a screen session :)
[18:23] <reisio> alexxio_: if your hardware can manage it, the software can yes
[18:24] <deadlyquirk> Are there any show stopping bugs with 11.10 and intel graphics?
[18:24] <alexxio_> reisio: right, i have an ati3450 and a dell studio 1535 with intel core2duo
[18:24] <Waceman> Can anyone assist with installing nVidia legacy drivers?
[18:25] <sroecker> deadlyquirk: some problems with backlight and disabled powersaving
[18:25] <reisio> alexxio_: not sure how many graphics cards support more than two monitors, but possibly if you have onboard as well
[18:25] <sroecker> deadlyquirk: but nothing showstopping
[18:26] <alexxio_> maybe with ati drivers i will
[18:26] <alexxio_> i don't know if i have those installed
[18:26] <deadlyquirk> Awesome.. Time to install ubuntu ;)
[18:26] <nico-_-> Really? No one cba giving me a hand on my IRCD?
[18:27] <reisio> nico-_-: I'm in Florida
[18:27] <jess89> OK, how to I boot to the terminal!
[18:27] <jess89> ?*
[18:27] <auronandace> !text | jess89
[18:28] <pkkm> Friar, To manually mount a drive follow the steps: 1. create a directory in which you are going to mount the drive 2. execute in terminal: sudo mount /dev/<device> <directory>
[18:28] <pkkm> sorry
[18:29] <pkkm> accidently pressed up arrow and enter instead of enter
[18:29] <Miscni> question... Why is it, that I cant see my network-icon on my top-bar on Ubuntu 10.04 Server???
[18:30] <Miscni> it only shows my sound-icon and mail-icon
[18:30] <trism> tdn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netcfg/+bug/847782
[18:32] <edfed> Package dependencies cannot be resolved
[18:32] <edfed> occurs after trying to reinstall open office on ubuntu
[18:32] <josh99> sroecker: i rebooted and now uname -r shows me -13. is there anything else i need to do? i am asking since i try to run the installer for my dell printer and when i need to plugin the usb, nothing happened and i can continue the installation. which is exactly what happned with the old kernel.
[18:33] <edfed> means i didn't completelly removed open office
[18:33] <josh99> sroecker: i can = i can't
[18:33] <jess89> Eugh, I can't even get to terminal.
[18:33] <josh99> sroecker: some people mentioned on the forum to edit the grub file or something similar
[18:33] <Hackett> down at fraggle rock
[18:34] <sroecker> josh99: did you do update-grub and could you see the new kernel in grub? (press escape)
[18:34] <josh99> sroecker: i didn't
[18:34] <sroecker> josh99: you can see if its installed: apt-cache policy linux-image-3.0.0-13-generic
[18:35] <Hackett> sudo rm -rf
[18:35] <trism> tdn: and failsafe.conf has nothing to do with failsafe (recovery mode) boot, it just adds extra delays for server systems to make sure networking is up when the system is finished booting
[18:35] <jess89> My cursor goes up and down next to the trash can.
[18:35] <Waceman> Need help to install nVidia legacy drivers ? :)
[18:35] <josh99> sroecker: do i need to restart after updating grub?
[18:36] <edfed> Need help to reinstall open office
[18:36] <sroecker> josh99: yes. did apt-cache say you have -21 installed?
[18:36] <mathis_> Hello. I have a problem. running ubuntu 10.04 with windows 7 dual-boot. Having a 3rd partition with saving files from both os. Worked fine for some time, now I get a "not authorized" from linux side while trying to copy files. Could somebody help me with this?
[18:36] <josh99> sroecker: yes it did.
[18:37] <reisio> mathis_: is it listed by 'mount'?
[18:37] <sroecker> josh99: and uname -v said ?
[18:37] <written> why does in 11.10 .screenrc gets ignored?
[18:38] <josh99> sroecker: #21-ubuntuu
[18:39] <sroecker> josh99: then it did already work
[18:39] <josh99> sroecker: ok. trying it after restart
[18:39] <edfed> note i uninstalled openoffice using the ubuntu software center tool.
[18:40] <edfed> because i had a crash after a toolbar manual resizing in impress
[18:40] <zykotick9> edfed, what ubuntu version are you using?  is libreoffice an available package?
[18:40] <edfed> and it was impossible to run it.
[18:40] <edfed> i have ubuntu one, for netbooks
[18:41] <norway> my cdrom will not automount now that i installed Ubuntu Classic Please Help i cant read with it at all?
[18:41] <eXeC64> I'm having issues with permissions. I have group X and a bunch of files I would like people in that group to modify. The files have their group set to X and the g+rw permissions set but they're still getting access denied. Am I missing something?
[18:43] <norway> my cdrom will not automount now that i installed Ubuntu Classic Please Help
[18:43] <zykotick9> eXeC64, perhaps the permission on the directory containing the files?  just a guess.
[18:43] <jess89> HORRAH! My mouse works now!
[18:43] <josh99> it's sad that in 2011 someone is happy that his mouse works.
[18:43] <norway> lol
[18:43] <written> why does in 11.10 .screenrc gets ignored?
[18:43] <edfed> zykotick9: ubuntu 10.04 lucid
[18:44] <edfed> libreoffice not available in software center
[18:44] <zykotick9> edfed, ok, that's openoffice territory then
[18:44] <reisio> written: where?
[18:44] <eXeC64> zykotick9, Does one need to relog into ssh before group changes are applied? I chown'd one of the files to root and relogged and it started working for me.
[18:44] <written> reisio, ~/.screenrc
[18:44] <norway> im using ubuntu 11.10  an cant get cdrom to mount please help
[18:45] <zykotick9> eXeC64, permission get applied at login
[18:45] <reisio> written: that's your user's ~/ ?
[18:45] <eXeC64> zykotick9, aand there is the issue I believe. Thanks :)
[18:45] <written> reisio, right
[18:45] <edfed> indeed, i'd like to change my ubuntu version, this one is too much eyecandy styled
[18:45] <Rinsmaster> How can I set my keyboard layout to only allow dead keys for vowels (' + e becomes é, but ' + n doesn't become ń). In windows this is the default it seems, but I can't get it to work on ubuntu. Thanks.
[18:45] <zykotick9> reisio, ~ is an alias for a user's home dir
[18:46] <reisio> written: what makes you think it isn't working?
[18:46] <edfed> but the problem is ssd drive
[18:46]  * reisio sighs
[18:46] <reisio> zykotick9: doesn't mean he was the user he thought he was when he placed it at ~/
[18:46] <norway> 11.10 much headache
[18:46] <zykotick9> reisio, sorry - i miss read your statement
[18:47] <reisio> I knows
[18:48] <rodaz_laptop> I'm not using ubuntu, but my distro's channels is comatose. I hate the 64 bit build of firefox in openSUSE's repo, but it's been so long since I had to install 32 bit flash on a 64 bit system I forgot how
[18:48] <edfed> zykotick9: what do you meen by "it is the openoffice domain then"?
[18:48] <nbest>  Hi.  Is there a quick way to get special characters in ubuntu?  For example, in windows if you press alt 1 7 1  it gives you the one half symbol
[18:48] <zykotick9> edfed, libreoffice replaced openoffice on modern ubuntu version
[18:48] <reisio> CTRL+SHIFT+u, unicodenumberhere, ENTER
[18:48] <reisio> ϕ <-
[18:49] <auronandace> rodaz_laptop: just because another channel is dead doesn't make this the right channel
[18:49] <llutz> rodaz_laptop: completly offtopic here
[18:49] <steven_> Sup guys, where is the ubuntu forums?
[18:49] <edfed> ok, then, i will get a modern version of ubuntu
[18:49] <edfed> what ubuntu to get for a 8GB SSD drive on netbook?
[18:49] <reisio> nbest: or switch to the international US keyboard layout to get a few dead keys for common diacritics
[18:49] <edfed> with usb live boot
[18:49] <reisio> steven_: on the internet: http://www.google.com/search?q=where%20is%20the%20ubuntu%20forums%3F
[18:49] <auronandace> !forum | steven_
[18:49] <rodaz_laptop> auronandace, llutz it might still help, where does 32 bit firefox look for plugins?
[18:50] <steven_> Thanks, have a nice day.
[18:50] <llutz> rodaz_laptop: /usr/lib/mozilla
[18:50] <llutz> rodaz_laptop: and ~/.mozilla
[18:51] <rodaz_laptop> llutz alright, thanks
[18:51] <edfed> but if i can reinstall openoffice in a shorter time, it would be nice
[18:51] <edfed> because i don't want to resetup all my system
[18:52] <zykotick9> edfed, have you tried "sudo reinstall openoffice.org"?
[18:52] <zykotick9> edfed, have you tried "sudo apt-get reinstall openoffice.org" sorry
[18:52] <edfed> no, i didn't know that solution, i will try it right now
[18:52] <nbest>  reisio i was fooling around with that and it looks interesting , although it gives totally different results - different character mapping for the different nuber code
[18:53] <nbest>   i will have to re learn my asci table which took a lifetime to learn lol
[18:53] <nbest>  but thanks :)
[18:53] <zykotick9> edfed, have you tried "sudo apt-get install --reinstall openoffice.org" sorry AGAIN
[18:53] <reisio> nbest: well it's 2011, you should learn some unicode :p
[18:53] <nbest>   lol gotta get up to snuff
[18:55] <norway> omg ubuntu 11.10 is a pain does anyone kno how to reinstall cdrom or mount it perhaps idk it not mounting from usb
[18:55] <norway> please help
[18:55] <nbest>  reisio   idk that i would ever try to do that though because not only is the old way in line with ascii, ansi utf8 8859 etc.. it's also used by html & escapes, so i think i might just make a script to convert or something
[18:55] <josh99> after upgrading my kernel to -13 i still can't finish the installation of my printer. any tips?
[18:55] <edfed> zykotick9: can i show you in pm the answer of terminal?
[18:55] <zykotick9> edfed, sure
[18:56] <deadlyquirk> So I've wondered are any of you using ubuntu in a production enviroment?
[18:56] <jalal> hey peoplei m jalal
[18:56] <jalal> i got a problem in ubuntu
[18:56] <reisio> deadlyquirk: on servers?
[18:56] <norway> yea me too lol
[18:57] <jalal> can any one solve my wireless problem?
[18:57] <edfed> jalal: only one problem? you're lucky :)
[18:57] <zykotick9> edfed, have you added some 3rd party repos or PPAs to your system?  That output seems to suggest you must have.
[18:57] <jalal> my wireless card not detecting in ubuntu
[18:57] <deadlyquirk> reisio: On servers in a production envirroment yes.
[18:57] <jalal> my wireless is broadcom 4313
[18:58] <zykotick9> edfed, try "sudo apt-get update" first then try again
[18:58] <edfed> zykotick9: what can be a 3rd party or PPA?
[18:58] <norway> is it compaitble with linux jalal?
[18:58] <jalal> i die
[18:58] <jalal> i also did dist upgrade
[18:58] <reisio> deadlyquirk: meaningless phrase
[18:58] <enbloc> Anyone have success w/ SimpleScan and Epson Workforce all in ones? It detects, talks to, attempts to scan - enough to light up and move the scanner bar, but then it all just quits.
[18:58] <jalal> yah
[18:58] <jalal> it work fine in backtrack
[18:58] <jalal> back trakc is also ubuntu base
[18:58] <norway> yea baktrak make all of them work
[18:59] <jalal> yah but backtrac is ubuntu base
[18:59] <pangolin> !broadcom | jalal
[18:59] <jalal> so it should work in ubntu also
[18:59] <auronandace> jalal: and backtrack is also not supported here
[18:59] <norway> lol not 11.10
[18:59] <jalal> i try that brother
[18:59] <jalal> in hardware drivers show broadcom -sta
[19:00] <norway> good luck sir
[19:00] <jalal> norway any solution?
[19:00] <Waceman> Hi guys, I've been attempting to install nVidia drivers (71xx - form nVidia website) - since this is the only driver pack which supports my old GeForce 256 DDR. Install went fine (apart from a script failing in the beginning of the install?)... When I boot up Gui fails with Error:
[19:00] <Waceman> (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
[19:00] <Waceman> (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (loader failed, 7)
[19:00] <Waceman> (EE) No drivers available
[19:00] <Waceman> I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed - and I fear that this no longer supports those 71xx drivers. Can anyone help?
[19:00] <FloodBot1> Waceman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:00] <jalal> i can give solution fornvidia
[19:01] <norway> naw sry back trak ? lol like  go back to when it was werkin i guess lol i may need to myself sry idk
[19:01] <jalal> now i m in ubuntu
[19:01] <norway> yea me2
[19:01] <jalal> you dont know also?
[19:01] <norway> nah
[19:01] <jalal> any one here can solve my problem?
[19:01] <zykotick9> edfed, sorry i don't have any other suggestions, good luck.
[19:01] <written> why does in 11.10 ~/.screenrc gets ignored?
[19:01] <jalal> no
[19:02] <edfed> thanks, thank you
[19:02] <jalal> wireless not detecting
[19:02] <deadlyquirk> reisio: not a meaningless phrase. How about using Ubuntu as the backbone for a business or for hosting a website. Some sort of endevour that isn't home based.
[19:02] <edfed> it wouldn't be a big problem
[19:02] <jalal> kernal should be update in server
[19:03] <norway> ok i did manage to read the warnings about 11.10 an enabling Ubuntu Classic so now i dont have a cdrom please help guru i know your out there thanx in advance!
[19:04] <reisio> deadlyquirk: what does the location have to do with it :p
[19:05] <zykotick9> deadlyquirk, most "production environments" would probably require more stable gnu/linux distros then ubuntu
[19:05] <reisio> indeed
[19:05] <norway> agreed
[19:06] <pfifo> ill drink to that
[19:06] <deadlyquirk> I know.. I was just currious to see if anyone was doing it.
[19:06] <norway> eyecandy would not be enough
[19:07] <norway> i recommend natty over this new distro 11.10
[19:07] <norway> 11.04 better already
[19:07] <norway> ok i did manage to read the warnings about 11.10 an enabling Ubuntu Classic so now i dont have a cdrom please help guru i know your out there thanx in advance!
[19:09] <written> why does in 11.10 ~/.screenrc gets ignored?
[19:09] <zykotick9> norway, "grep cdrom /etc/fstab" verify it's pointed to your cdrom.  try the "eject" command.
[19:10] <norway> ty i try
[19:11] <edfed> anybody still had this problem? and solved it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/722543/
[19:11] <seanmc98> hello can i ask a question in here about airodump-ng
[19:11] <sebastian> hello ¡?
[19:11] <slipperywhendry> hello
[19:12] <reisio> seanmc98: remains to be seen
[19:12] <seanmc98> or would that be in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:12] <slipperywhendry> how do i set a proxy in X-chat gnome
[19:12] <slipperywhendry> ??
[19:12] <slipperywhendry> i have JonDo set up
[19:12] <Gentoo64> slipperywhendry: try settings, proxy
[19:12] <Gentoo64> if its the same as normal xchat
[19:13] <slipperywhendry> i dont see anything under preferences about proxy.. in none of tabs.
[19:13] <slipperywhendry> i can upload crn
[19:13] <slipperywhendry> *Scrn
[19:13] <zykotick9> Gentoo64, xchat-gnome... is very limited compared to the real version
[19:13] <Gentoo64> not sure what the difference is between xchat gnome and xchat
[19:13] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[19:13] <Gentoo64> slipperywhendry: just use the proper xchat
[19:13] <reisio> the GNOME version has all the prefs hidden, a la... GNOME
[19:13] <seanmc98> i need help with airodump-ng,
[19:13] <xxiao> anyone can do me a favor, open a terminal, open another tab inside, close the tab immediately, and type in the terminal, in my case i could no longer type to it
[19:14] <xxiao> this is 10.04 64bit
[19:14] <reisio> seanmc98: I suggest you get it, then
[19:14] <sebastian> hello i got an issue with my system, i have ubuntu 10.04 LTS and it often crashes
[19:14] <zykotick9> xxiao, working here (on a similar system)
[19:14] <xxiao> if i click on somewhere else, then activate this terminal, i can type again
[19:14] <sebastian> e.g.
[19:14] <sebastian> i turn on my computer
[19:14] <sebastian> i log on
[19:14] <sebastian> i open chromium
[19:14] <sebastian> and then
[19:14] <sebastian> bum!
[19:14] <FloodBot1> sebastian: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:14] <sebastian> crash
[19:15] <xxiao> kostkon: thanks! if i close my firefox, i could not type in the terminal either, until i click on somewhere else
[19:15] <zykotick9> !enter | sebastian
[19:15] <Gentoo64> sebastian: do the usual.. open it in a terminal
[19:15] <Gentoo64> or is it not only chromium that crashes it?
[19:15] <xxiao> this has been there since i used 10.04,
[19:15] <sebastian> no it isn't
[19:15] <Gentoo64> how does it crash? like a hard freeze?
[19:15] <Sarah-34-uk> i have Ubuntu !!!
[19:15] <Sarah-34-uk> got it today
[19:16] <slipperywhendry> how do i get proper?? i downloaded through synaptic
[19:16] <sebastian> another example, i tried to update, with the update manager
[19:16] <Sarah-34-uk> can soemone help me ?
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> hoorray, Sarah-34-uk !!
[19:16] <zykotick9> !ask | Sarah-34-uk
[19:16] <Gentoo64> slipperywhendry: apt-get install xchat
[19:16] <sebastian> and in the middle of the update it crashes
[19:16] <Sarah-34-uk> How to instal Ubuntu !!!!????
[19:16] <Sarah-34-uk> I have got interpid
[19:16] <sebastian> it's a black screen with pointer freezed
[19:16] <reisio> Sarah-34-uk: go to ubuntu.com, download image, install
[19:16] <slipperywhendry> Reading package lists... Done
[19:16] <slipperywhendry> Building dependency tree
[19:16] <slipperywhendry> Reading state information... Done
[19:16] <slipperywhendry> E: Couldn't find package x-chat
[19:16] <auronandace> !install | Sarah-34-uk
[19:16] <zykotick9> slipperywhendry, xchat
[19:17] <Gentoo64> sebastian: keep a term open with tail -f /var/log/messgaes
[19:17] <slipperywhendry> :o
[19:17] <Gentoo64> messages*
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> slipperywhendry: without -
[19:17] <slipperywhendry> sorry
[19:17] <auronandace> Sarah-34-uk: use a more up-to-date ubuntu, intrepid is no longer supported
[19:17] <pkkm> Is the GNOME Color Manager going to make my whole desktop or just color-managed applications display in correct colors on a wide-gamut monitor?
[19:17] <Gentoo64> sebastian: how much ram have you got? and does it freeze as in you have to hard reset?
[19:17] <norway> "grep cdrom /etc/fstab" verify it's pointed to your cdrom.  try the "eject" command.    "it doesnt do anything from terminal im a noob so maybe i dont know what im doin elaborate?"
[19:17] <Sarah-34-uk> auronandace, like Karmic ?
[19:17] <Gentoo64> Sarah-34-uk: no.
[19:17] <Sarah-34-uk> will ubuntu Karmic work better than Winows 7?
[19:17] <slipperywhendry> its installing
[19:17] <auronandace> Sarah-34-uk: try lucid or ocelot
[19:17] <sebastian> yes, it's the only solution, because the pc does not respond to any button
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> Sarah-34-uk: download the most recent ubuntu on www.ubuntu.com
[19:18] <sebastian> i got 1 GB of ram
[19:18] <Gentoo64> sebastian: do you use swap?
[19:18] <slipperywhendry> make a 3gb swap partition
[19:18] <sebastian> mmm i don't know what is it
[19:18] <slipperywhendry> thats what i use
[19:18] <norway> hope ya got swap setup sebastain
[19:18] <atxq> exit
[19:18] <Gentoo64> sebastian: if you used the auto partitioner you will
[19:18] <slipperywhendry> using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[19:18] <slipperywhendry>                 - the Lucid Lynx - released in April 2010 and supported until April 2013.
[19:18] <slipperywhendry> 	
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> flood
[19:19] <zykotick9> norway, does ""grep cdrom /etc/fstab" in a terminal give any output?
[19:19] <pfifo> My pinki finger is broken and I cannot us the q a and z keys effectively, is there any way to disable q a andz all together so the rest of the users on this machine know how it feels? Im on 10.04
[19:19] <norway> no
[19:19] <reisio> pfifo: heh
[19:19] <Gentoo64> sebastian: type df -h into terminal itll tell you
[19:19] <reisio> pfifo: too lazy to break their pinkies?
[19:19] <sebastian> ok give me a sex
[19:19] <sebastian> sec
[19:19] <slipperywhendry> i use gparted
[19:19] <sebastian> sorry
[19:19] <sebastian> XD
[19:19] <norway> verbose command?
[19:19] <FloodBot1> sebastian: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:19] <slipperywhendry> ok so i will try this version of xchat <--- :) thank you
[19:19] <slipperywhendry> gentoo
[19:20] <reisio> pfifo: opportune time to try out a right-hand dvorak layout
[19:20] <sebastian> Gentoo64: i'm ready
[19:20] <pfifo> reisio, i know standard dvorak
[19:20] <Sarah-34-uk> does Ubunt work betterr than Windows 7 ?
[19:20] <Gentoo64> sebastian: you probably have swap. type sudo tail -f /var/log/messages
[19:20] <reisio> pfifo: I suppose that would help a little
[19:20] <reisio> Sarah-34-uk: sure
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> Sarah-34-uk: depends on what you prefer
[19:20] <Gentoo64> Sarah-34-uk: are you trolling?
[19:20] <slipperywhendry> :)
[19:20] <tensorpudding> Sarah-34-uk, what does "work better" mean in your case?
[19:20] <auronandace> Sarah-34-uk: define "work better"
[19:21] <slipperywhendry> i believe im proxied
[19:21] <norway> i just tried again sir to make sure i dont need root do i?
[19:21] <slipperywhendry> tyvm
[19:21] <Gentoo64> slipperywhendry: yeah proxy in normal xchat is easy
[19:21] <slipperywhendry> is there a way to tell?
[19:21] <Sarah-34-uk> better mean I use AE and 3DS Max
[19:21] <tensorpudding> Sarah-34-uk, ubuntu aspires to provide a better UX than windows, but whether it achieves that goal is hard to say
[19:21] <Gentoo64>  /whois slipperywhendry
[19:21] <Gentoo64> ^
[19:21] <crizzy> Sarah-34-uk: no
[19:21] <Sarah-34-uk> will they work in Ubuntu ?
[19:21] <crizzy> no
[19:21] <Sarah-34-uk> no?
[19:21] <crizzy> no
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> Sarah-34-uk: www.whylinuxisbetter.net
[19:21] <Gentoo64> Sarah-34-uk: 3ds max might have a linux version not sure
[19:21] <reisio> Sarah-34-uk: no, but there are replacements
[19:21] <sebastian> Gentoo64: i've already did that
[19:22] <slipperywhendry>  /whois slipperywhendry
[19:22] <sebastian> Gentoo64: what's next
[19:22] <crizzy> blender is more or less equal to 3ds max if you're willing to learn the obscure ui. but no
[19:22] <tensorpudding> Sarah-34-uk, software written for windows won't work without modification on ubuntu
[19:22] <Gentoo64> sebastian: ok it may give you a message when it freezes
[19:22] <crizzy> and there's nothing to match video editors
[19:22] <reisio> it's not that obscure
[19:22] <slipperywhendry> in chat or main window?
[19:22] <reisio> and recent versions it's fancier
[19:22] <seanmc98> as you can see here http://twitpic.com/77r2tl i am trying to grack The Force WIFI however im not sure what my client MAC is
[19:22] <reisio> and in*
[19:22] <Gentoo64> slipperywhendry: either
[19:22] <Gentoo64> slipperywhendry: are you trying to get anonymous or something?
[19:22] <Gentoo64> i can see an ip
[19:22] <sebastian> Gentoo64: what i am looking for?
[19:22] <tensorpudding> Sarah-34-uk, this is a major pitfall in some areas, but ubuntu has tons of apps which do the same stuff, which you might like better than the ones in windows
[19:23] <slipperywhendry> obscuring my location
[19:23] <slipperywhendry> i have proxy servers set up
[19:23] <Gentoo64> sebastian: when it freezes a line might pop up at the bottom of that log
[19:23] <slipperywhendry> i think it works
[19:23] <Gentoo64> slipperywhendry: just join #freenode and say "can i have a cloak please" .... or use tor
[19:23] <Gentoo64>  /whois slipperywhendry
[19:23] <Gentoo64> that say your ip?
[19:24] <slipperywhendry> yea
[19:24] <Gentoo64> your real one?
[19:24] <slipperywhendry> but in oslo germany
[19:24] <slipperywhendry> lol
[19:24] <Gentoo64> so your ip isnt 184.18.234.245 ?
[19:24] <sebastian> Gentoo64: the last time it freezed, this was in the screen.
[19:24] <Gentoo64> easier just to get unaffiliated tbh
[19:24] <enix316> i have a problem with scp. I need a proof read of my syntax. deatils here http://pastebin.com/xSPuP3eb
[19:25] <norway> wyko you leave me ?
[19:25] <slipperywhendry> i dont think so hang on
[19:25] <sebastian> Gentoo64: i'll put it on a pastebin
[19:25] <sebastian> Gentoo64: wait me
[19:25] <Gentoo64> slipperywhendry: type "my ip" in google
[19:25] <Gentoo64> itll tell you in google itself
[19:25] <norway> zyko i mean?
[19:25] <F1skr> how can my user get access to create/edit/delete files in /var/www ?
[19:26] <F1skr> www-data is owner of that folder right now
[19:26] <slipperywhendry> no my ip differs from that
[19:26] <slipperywhendry> :)
[19:26] <Gentoo64> F1skr: add your user to the group
[19:26] <Gentoo64> vim /etc/group
[19:26] <Gentoo64> or use usermod
[19:26] <Gentoo64> slipperywhendry: then its worked then. but a hostmask will be faster
[19:26] <Gentoo64> not that speed in irc really matters
[19:27] <slipperywhendry> very helpful chat, I have solved countless issues here merely upon the merit of nice people.. thanks again
[19:27] <zykotick9> Gentoo64, lol, giving "vim /etc/group" really?
[19:27] <thegladiator> how to burn an image to a USB
[19:27] <norway> is there a tool that will mount my usb drive an ide cdrom?
[19:27] <F1skr> can you tell me the right syntax for usermod?
[19:27] <reisio> man usermod can
[19:28] <reisio> norway: ?
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> thegladiator: have you tried unetbootin?
[19:28] <lordjj> Anyone know's how to make Xchat minimize to tray instead of quit when I click close (x) ?
[19:28] <seanmc98> as you can see here http://twitpic.com/77r2tl i am trying to grack The Force WIFI however im not sure what my client MAC is can anyone help
[19:28] <thegladiator> No
[19:28] <F1skr> reisio, I'm danish if that's what you are asking? ;)
[19:28] <sebastian> Gentoo64: this is what was on that screen http://pastebin.com/WQ4159pg
[19:29] <thegladiator> can i use unetbootin to burn iso to a USB
[19:29] <Gentoo64> sebastian: cant see much there. ubuntu comes with all the printer stuff pre built in
[19:29] <AlecTaylor> lol @ paste.ubuntu.com - Checks fields are valid after it uploads my massive paste, then I give it a name and it uploads AGAIN!
[19:29] <zykotick9> thegladiator, if it's a bootable ISO then probably
[19:29] <AlecTaylor> xD
[19:29] <brontosaurusrex> thegladiator, yes
[19:29] <Gentoo64> nothing to worry about
[19:29] <reisio> F1skr: yes
[19:29] <BluesKaj> !unetbootin
[19:30] <reisio> thegladiator: to "image" iso to a USB
[19:30] <reisio> norway: didn't understand your question
[19:30] <thegladiator> thanks
[19:30] <Gentoo64> norway: do you have a cdrom drive?
[19:30] <sebastian> Gentoo64: I am confused, because i've installed the 11.10 version, and it did the same thing, so i said "oh well, it's this version, let's try the 10.04"
[19:31] <sebastian> Gentoo64: but it did the same thing after all
[19:31] <Gentoo64> sebastian: too hard for me to say
[19:31] <Gentoo64> run memtest for the sake of it
[19:31] <Gentoo64> sounds like some hardwrae issue
[19:31] <sebastian> would you tell me how
[19:32] <Gentoo64> sebastian: boot the ubuntu livecd, and choose memtest
[19:32] <norway> yes?
[19:32] <Gentoo64> norway: why do you need to mount the usb as a cdrom?
[19:32] <sebastian> Gentoo64: ok i'll try it.
[19:32] <sebastian> Gentoo64: thanks buddy
[19:34] <CandyTiger> trouble with libtiff and libjpg when configuring latest Gimp :/ any tips ??
[19:34] <norway> sry just caught back up umm cause i have external an ide burner as well they both work in windows
[19:34] <F1skr> reisio, i have tried: sudo usermod -a -G www-data myuser  but i'm still unable to create files inside the folder, do i need to restart anything for the changes to take effect?
[19:34] <Gentoo64> F1skr: yes
[19:34] <Gentoo64> or log out / in should work
[19:34] <reisio> F1skr: su - user
[19:34] <norway> i just installed Classic Ubuntu from 11.10 an using both now an it killed my cdrom
[19:34] <CandyTiger> seems the packages are in place, but the configure script dont see them ?
[19:35] <Gentoo64> CandyTiger: are you installing it from source?
[19:35] <CandyTiger> Gentoo64: yes.. from source
[19:35] <seanmc98> how do i find my MAC adress>
[19:36] <Gentoo64> seanmc98: type ip addr
[19:36] <reisio> seanmc98: what for
[19:36] <CandyTiger> Gentoo64: Gimp 2.7.3
[19:36] <bluenemo> ifconfig or ip addr show
[19:36] <Gentoo64> CandyTiger: theres probably a ppa for it..
[19:36] <pfifo> CandyTiger, please pastebin the entire build log
[19:36] <norway> i installed 11.10 an cdrom werkin fine then i installed Classic login as well an boom no cdrom
[19:36] <CandyTiger> Gentoo64: ?? wow..
[19:36] <norway> please help
[19:36] <seanmc98> airodump-ng reisio
[19:37] <reisio> seanmc98: what about it
[19:37] <Gentoo64> CandyTiger: ill have a look. 2.7 has been around for ages
[19:37] <F1skr> I logged out and back in, that didn't help :(
[19:37] <Gentoo64> CandyTiger: i found it buggy and slow so i went back to 2.6. any reason you want it?
[19:37] <cloudgeek> curl -v -H 'X-Storage-User: test:tester' -H 'X-Storage-Pass: testing' http://127.0.0.1:8080/auth/v1.0* About to connect() to 127.0.0.1 port 8080 (#0)
[19:37] <cloudgeek> *   Trying 127.0.0.1... Connection refused
[19:37] <cloudgeek> * couldn't connect to host
[19:37] <cloudgeek> * Closing connection #0
[19:37] <FloodBot1> cloudgeek: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:37] <norway> grep cdrom /etc/fstab i cant get anything out of this command just repeats norway@etc
[19:37] <F1skr> reisio, what do you mean by 'su - user' ?
[19:37] <cloudgeek> help me
[19:37] <Gentoo64> F1skr: cat /etc/group
[19:37] <reisio> F1skr: su - f1skr
[19:37] <Gentoo64> F1skr: see if your name is after the www bit
[19:38] <Gentoo64> or type groups
[19:38] <seanmc98> reisio, PM?
[19:38] <norway> Gentoo sry i was away pleaze help
[19:38] <F1skr> www-data:x:33:myuser
[19:38] <Gentoo64> norway: does eject /dev/sr0 work?
[19:38] <reisio> seanmc98: 3:38pm
[19:38] <CandyTiger> Gentoo64: seems you are right: ppa:matthaeus123/mrw-gimp-svn
[19:38] <norway> brnb
[19:38] <norway> brb
[19:39] <Gentoo64> CandyTiger: yeah, any reason you need it? like i said i found it bad tbh
[19:39] <CandyTiger> aaarrggg... check for PPAs before compiling :D
[19:39] <seanmc98> reisio, i mean private message? please
[19:39] <norway> yes
[19:39] <Gentoo64> CandyTiger: yeah, at least ppas are managed
[19:39] <reisio> seanmc98: why should I care
[19:40] <zykotick9> Gentoo64, not really - anyone can create a PPA
[19:40] <Gentoo64> zykotick9: but they can be uninstalled from software centre no?
[19:40] <zykotick9> Gentoo64, ya
[19:40] <Gentoo64> thats what i meant
[19:40] <Gentoo64> sorry
[19:40] <norway> gentoo64 that command worked
[19:41] <Gentoo64> norway: what, eject /dev/sr0?
[19:41] <norway> yes
[19:41] <Gentoo64> ok...
[19:41] <Gentoo64> so in what way isnt it working?
[19:41] <norway> doesnt mount anything
[19:41] <zykotick9> Gentoo64, "eject" doesn't, because fstab isn't correct (i'd guess)
[19:41] <seanmc98> reisio, well if you didnt care you wouldnt be asking me what exactly my problem is
[19:42] <Gentoo64> norway: try putting this in fstab: /dev/sr0 /mnt/DVD auto noauto,noatime,users 0 0
[19:42] <norway> its a new burner
[19:42] <Gentoo64> mkdir /mnt/DVD
[19:42] <reisio> seanmc98: I don't care if you PM
[19:42] <reisio> why would I
[19:42] <reisio> I'm on a chat network
[19:42] <reisio> I have volunteered to chat with people
[19:42] <reisio> nobody is forcing me to be here :p
[19:42] <FloodBot1> reisio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:43] <reisio> FloodBot1: suck a lemon
[19:43] <lordjj> How, oh, how, do I set XChat to minimize to tray when I click the close button...
[19:43] <zykotick9> Gentoo64, using the default /media/cdrom0 would probably be a better suggestion
[19:43] <bluenemo> rofl :D
[19:43] <Gentoo64> lordjj: in the options. minimize to system tray
[19:43] <Gentoo64> zykotick9: yeah theyre both symlinks though so it shouldnt metter
[19:43] <jess89> How do I remove wacom drivers?
[19:43] <reisio> lordjj: looked through prefs?
[19:43] <lordjj> Yeah, couldn't find it
[19:43] <Gentoo64> lordjj: actually it might only be minimize im not sure
[19:44] <guntbert> seanmc98:  Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice.
[19:44] <sebastian> Gentoo64: i tried to boot the LiveCD but it leads me to the installation proces and it doesn't have any memtest
[19:44] <CandyTiger> Gentoo64: requires installation of untrusted packages gimp gimp-data libbabl-0.0-0 libgegl-0.0-0 libgimp2.0 libopenexr6
[19:44] <lordjj> I even looked in xchat.conf
[19:44] <jess89> 11.10
[19:44] <CandyTiger> Gentoo64: how do i turn that off ?
[19:44] <Gentoo64> lordjj: actually its just "enable system tray icon"
[19:44] <lordjj> ddnt find anything peculiar. But I know it can do that
[19:44] <Gentoo64> sebastian: ah ok. its probably not that
[19:45] <lordjj> its enabled
[19:45] <lordjj> still quits
[19:45] <zykotick9> lordjj, close will close it, minimize it to make it do to tray
[19:45] <Gentoo64> lordjj: there isnt a way then
[19:45] <lordjj> Heh, but I there was a way :(
[19:45] <lordjj> Minimize dsnt send to tray
[19:45] <Gentoo64> oh well
[19:45] <lordjj> Ah well...
[19:46] <bluenemo> lordjj, for a memtest you can just install memtest and then boot it (if you got ubuntu installed to your hdd)
[19:46] <Gentoo64> "enable tray icon" just enables the icon, nothingelse
[19:46] <bluenemo> (i think)
[19:46] <reisio> lordjj: which version of Ubuntu?
[19:46] <bluenemo> or you download some memtest live cd thing
[19:46] <Gentoo64> CandyTiger: turn what off?
[19:46] <lordjj> 11.04
[19:46] <sebastian> Gentoo64: should i install memtest??
[19:46] <Polah> bluenemo, lordjj: memtest comes by default with 11.04, just hold shift during boot and select it from the GRUB menu
[19:46] <Gentoo64> sebastian: download partedmagic and boot from it
[19:46] <bluenemo> ah yes that was it n1 Polah
[19:46] <Gentoo64> that way its not a waste of a disc
[19:47] <riveram> hello, new ubuntu user
[19:47] <Gentoo64> sebastian: ah ok just hold shift on bootup. didnt know it came with ubuntu
[19:47] <jess89> wacom drivers...
[19:47] <reisio> riveram: hi, reisio
[19:48] <sebastian> Gentoo64: When? when the purple screen appears??
[19:48] <bluenemo> i'm bored to death. ask questions i can answer for christ sake :P
[19:48] <reisio> jess89: just uninstall them
[19:48] <Gentoo64> sebastian: before then
[19:48] <jess89> how
[19:48] <reisio> jess89: dpkg -l | grep -i wacom
[19:48] <sebastian> ok i'll try
[19:48] <jess89> Thank you
[19:48] <riveram> using wine, can I install a digital download of diablo 2?
[19:49] <bluenemo> jess89, that will list the package name of all wacom stuff
[19:49] <bluenemo> you can then apt-get purge packagename them (or so)
[19:49] <reisio> riveram: yes: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=74
[19:49] <jess89> Trying to get my mouse to work again first.
[19:49] <reisio> riveram: platinum = highest rating (compatibility)
[19:49] <Gentoo64> riveram: looks like it
[19:49] <Gentoo64> got platinum
[19:49] <riveram> ty much
[19:50] <jess89> Is there a quick way to get to the terminal besides the dash thing?
[19:50] <userone> in 11.10, how can i display the time and date in the main panel. i dont see the 'administration' icon under system settings?
[19:50] <pfifo> lordjj, ask in #xchat
[19:50] <Gentoo64> jess89: use another de..
[19:50] <jess89> My tablet won't let me click it.
[19:50] <Gentoo64> unless theres key shortcuts
[19:51] <bluenemo> jess89, alt + F2, type x-t [TAB], ENTER
[19:51] <lordjj> Alrighty
[19:51] <CandyTiger> Gentoo64: download failed. and then the message requires download from untrusted sources :(
[19:51] <bluenemo> jess89, you can also press crtl alt F1 to F6. F7 is graphic environment..
[19:51] <CandyTiger> Gentoo64: should I find a Gimp irc channel maybe ?
[19:51] <brontosaurusrex> jess89, ctrl + alt +t
[19:51] <Gentoo64> CandyTiger: no itll be the ppas fault
[19:52] <Gentoo64> CandyTiger: why do you need 2.7 again anyway?
[19:52] <jess89> Got it. Thanks!
[19:52] <riveram> if ubuntu identifies multiple drivers for my video card, and they all have similar descriptions, which one do I activate?
[19:52] <userone> i cant find a 'time and date' icon in apps. where has unity put this now? i cant even go to ubuntu classic to find it anymore!
[19:52] <pfifo> CandyTiger, fyi gimp has their own network, irc.gimp.net #gimp
[19:52] <CandyTiger> Gentoo64: The 2.6 has no unified window. So 2.7 is a very nice improvement.
[19:52] <Gentoo64> riveram: what are they?
[19:53] <riveram> one sec
[19:53] <Gentoo64> CandyTiger: thats why i tried 2.7. the single windows actually sucks big time. its not polished at all
[19:53] <Gentoo64> CandyTiger: i hate the floating windows, but actually hated 2.7s single view more
[19:53] <Gentoo64> CandyTiger: its a single window, with the toolboxes overlapping it
[19:54] <CandyTiger> Gentoo64: hmm.. :D okay-.. so basically.. not much of an improvement ??? :(
[19:55] <userone> the internet posts keep pointing to system settings but i have no time and date there. does anyone know how to do this from the command line/
[19:55] <Gentoo64> CandyTiger: i would stick with 2.6 until 2.7 is final
[19:56] <userone> help! time
[19:56] <linelevel> Hi guys. I have an NTFS partition that I want to mount automatically at startup. So I mounted it manually (by opening it with Nautilus), then I ran `mount` to see the options in parentheses. Then I edited my /etc/fstab with the same device, mount point, file system type, and options that I saw in the `mount` output. But when I restarted my system, I got a message telling me it couldn't mount. Any suggestions?
[19:56] <userone> help: time
[19:56] <Gentoo64> linelevel: paste fstab
[19:56] <userone> how do i call the help pages for time and date/
[19:57] <trism> userone: in dconf-editor, com/canonical/indicator/datetime, show-date = true (I don't see the option in the date and time settings anymore)
[19:57] <zykotick9> linelevel, does the mount point (directory) exist?
[19:57] <userone> trism: thanks for that.
[19:58] <Sidewinder1> userone, "date" seems to do it in my terminal; without quotes, of course.
[19:58] <Gentoo64> that just shows the date
[19:58] <Sarah-34-uk> Could please someone tell me if it is worth installing Ubuntu over Windows 7 x64 ultimate ?
[19:58] <Sidewinder1> userone, To see arguments type man date.
[19:58] <pfifo> Sarah-34-uk, no, dual boot
[19:58] <reisio> Sarah-34-uk: if you're up for it, certainly
[19:58] <linelevel> Gentoo: This is the line I added to my /etc/fstab: http://pastebin.com/uDgXBfPr
[19:58] <Gentoo64> Sarah-34-uk: not if you rely on them windows progs
[19:58] <userone> i need to show the dialog box so i can set international times
[19:59] <linelevel> zykotick9: Ahh, good point! The directory only exists when Nautilus mounts it, then disappears when I unmount it.
[19:59] <userone> unless some whizz knows how to do this via cl?
[19:59] <zykotick9> linelevel, i personally avoid mounting to /media
[19:59] <reisio> linelevel: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/NTFS-3G#Mount_at_boot
[19:59] <Sarah-34-uk> for Gaming like MW2 and BlackOps and all will it work better in UBUNTU ????
[19:59] <pfifo> userone, what is the ultimate goal?
[19:59] <Gentoo64> linelevel: mkdir /mnt/Bohr
[20:00] <zykotick9> Sarah-34-uk, no - for gaming stick to windows
[20:00] <Sidewinder1> userone, Didn't my above help ^?
[20:00] <linelevel> zykotick9: Is it okay for me to create that directory with mkdir, or will it cause problems by conflicting with Nautilus?
[20:00] <llutz> userone: "man date" "man hwclock"
[20:00] <linelevel> Gentoo: What's wrong with using /media?
[20:00] <zykotick9> linelevel, i worry about conflict, but you could try
[20:00] <reisio> linelevel: nautilus uses /media/ for auto mounts, not /mnt/
[20:00] <jess89> Ugh, that didn't work. It's still using my screen.
[20:00] <icewaterman> hi, i am using ubuntu and most of the time vlc sound squieks
[20:00] <Sarah-34-uk> so in what UBUNTu is btter than WINDOWS 7 x64 Ultimate ?
[20:00] <reisio> Sarah-34-uk: in what way?
[20:00] <Gentoo64> linelevel: try this in fstab instead http://dpaste.com/643663/
[20:01] <icewaterman> this was an issue with the pre-previous version of ubuntu and it seems that the problem has returned
[20:01] <userone> pfifo: i want the time and date (in 24hr format) to show in my main top panel. then, when i click this, i want to be able to see the 'month view' with my international times below. this used to be a simple dialog box.
[20:01] <Gentoo64> linelevel: nautilus uses /media
[20:01] <zykotick9> Sarah-34-uk, if you need to ask that question - there isn't an answer for "YOU"
[20:01] <Gentoo64> linelevel: i always mount in /mnt
[20:01] <norway> ty zyko an Gentoo for your answers they worked!
[20:01] <Sarah-34-uk> zykotick9, why?
[20:01] <linelevel> Gentoo: Okay. Any reason that I shouldn't use the same options?
[20:01] <zykotick9> Sarah-34-uk, just stick to windows...
[20:01] <reisio> linelevel: because fstab isn't fuse
[20:01] <Gentoo64> linelevel: the plain options will work
[20:02] <linelevel> Okay. Thanks. I'm going to give this a try, and I'll be back.
[20:02] <riveram> ok so when I scan for additional drivers, there's six results.  All say "NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver" but there's a
[20:02] <riveram> (version 173)
[20:02] <riveram> (version 96)
[20:02] <riveram> post-release updates (version 96-updates
[20:02] <riveram> post-release updates (version -current-updates)
[20:02] <riveram> version current [recommended]
[20:02] <FloodBot1> riveram: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:02] <zykotick9> riveram, see the [recommended] - use that one
[20:03] <norway> one more question is there a way to customise the order of the dash provided on new install of 11.10 ?  The menu to the left?
[20:03] <Gentoo64> norway: drag and drop them?
[20:03] <norway> no order that way
[20:03] <norway> just drops to the bottom
[20:03] <Sarah-34-uk> zykotick9, but I wanted to try UBUNTU cuz everyone says its better than WINDOWS 7 x64 Ultimate
[20:03] <Gentoo64> really?
[20:03] <Gentoo64> not sure
[20:03] <riveram> alright, that's the first one I activated but it didn't seem to work. i'll reactivate it.
[20:04] <zykotick9> Sarah-34-uk, perhaps try it in VBox then, you're not going to like it (probably)
[20:04] <userone> riveram: i just updated mine nvidia drivers to post release updates current version update, and its working perfectly
[20:04] <riveram> is there an irc room to ask questions about navigating in the tor network?
[20:04] <reisio> riveram: navigating?
[20:04] <zykotick9> Sarah-34-uk, and "everyone" can be wrong ;)
[20:04] <norway> Get Onion riveram
[20:04] <norway> its a gui for tor
[20:04] <reisio> there's #tor
[20:04] <userone> riveram: in fact, it seems to have improved the display of untiy 3d
[20:05] <Sarah-34-uk> zykotick9,  but I want to know first if UBUNTU is better than WINDOWS 7 x64 ULTIMATE
[20:05] <riveram> I got the tor browser bundle installed and running. just want some more info before i swim, ya know?
[20:05] <gizmobay> I have a fax/modem that only has drivers for 32 bit yet I'm running 64 bit 11.04. I thought I read something changed with 11.10 that better supported 32 bit drivers. Is this true?
[20:05] <Gentoo64> Sarah-34-uk: stop trolling
[20:05] <llutz> Sarah-34-uk: saying "UBUNTU its better than WINDOWS 7 x64 Ultimate" without knowing the exact task its used for, is nonsense
[20:05] <Gentoo64> getting boring
[20:05] <reisio> riveram: what's there to know...
[20:05] <zykotick9> Sarah-34-uk, are apples better then oranges?  for some it is.
[20:05] <Sidewinder1> Sarah-34-uk, One area where Ubuntu outperforms any Microsoft product, may be found here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
[20:05] <riveram> userone thankyou i'll do that
[20:05] <userone> Sarah-34-uk: ubuntu is not better, just different. many like the difference, some dont
[20:05] <norway> yea theres ways to edit the network to per say keep you in us an what not visit tornetwork.org
[20:05] <Gentoo64> Sarah-34-uk: linux is completely different
[20:06] <reisio> riveram: tor attempts to camouflage your location
[20:06] <Sarah-34-uk> ok I use MW2 And BlackOps and After Effects and 3DS MAx
[20:06] <Gentoo64> Sarah-34-uk: just stay with windows
[20:06] <Sarah-34-uk> will UBUNT be better than WINDOWS & x64 ULTIMATE ?
[20:06] <zykotick9> Sarah-34-uk, stick to windows!
[20:06] <Gentoo64> someone kick her/him
[20:06] <Sarah-34-uk> LOL but why ?
<  - take your fish and troll away -  ><o(((°>
[20:06] <llutz>  Sarah-34-uk
[20:06] <riveram> like what sites to stay away from, possible search engines, sites to visit for certain information or libraries.
[20:06] <Gentoo64> riveram: whats the question?
[20:06] <brontosaurusrex> Sarah-34-uk, there is no after effects or max for ubuntu.
[20:07] <Myrtti> calm down, folks
[20:07] <occupant> I'm trying to set my primary display using the proprietary ATI drivers, and the Ubuntu login screen comes up on the monitor I want to use as primary, but once I log in, the dock/new windows go to another monitor. does that mean I need to change something in my user config rather than xrandr/xorg.conf (which don't change anything)?
[20:07] <Sarah-34-uk> brontosaurusrex, LOL there is AE for Linux
[20:07] <brontosaurusrex> Sarah-34-uk, nope
[20:07] <reisio> brontosaurusrex: you are mythical
[20:07] <riveram> what's a good initial site to visit when first exploring the vast space that is, the deep web.
[20:07] <Gentoo64> linux does have proprietary progs
[20:07] <reisio> riveram: http://www.zombo.com/
[20:08] <Gentoo64> riveram: google
[20:08] <norway> zonealarm.com lol
[20:08] <Gentoo64> zombo? whats that
[20:08] <reisio> Gentoo64: omfg, go forth
[20:08] <Sarah-34-uk> So if you guys are saying WINDOWS 7 x64 is better than UBUNTU so why do people use UBUNTU at all ?
[20:08] <riveram> what is this, "google"?
[20:08] <userone> Sarah-34-uk: I use Blender...an open source FREE OF COST visualisation package which blows the pants of 3DS Max
[20:08] <Gentoo64> riveram: google it
[20:08] <riveram> lol
[20:08] <Sarah-34-uk> userone, which one ?
[20:08] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[20:08] <enbloc> 10.04 - my ps2 keyboard works up through login, but after login any keyboard plugged in quits working in X. I can plug a usb keyboard in at that time and it will work, but the ps2 keyboard only works in vt's, not X
[20:08] <occupant> GOOGLE SEAN PAUL
[20:08] <Gentoo64> lol
[20:08] <enbloc> so its obviously something X
[20:09] <Gentoo64> enbloc: hmm i get the same issue with ps2
[20:09] <tensorpudding> occupant, go away
[20:09] <Gentoo64> never ever had a fix for it
[20:09] <brontosaurusrex> reisio, i was just told that "b" as nick was too short ...
[20:09] <Gentoo64> enbloc: i wish i knew the answer
[20:09] <occupant> god forbid someone should have a lighthearted moment
[20:09] <Myrtti> please, move the non-support to #ubuntu
[20:09] <riveram> alright i gotta go get some creamer at the store. thankyou for the answers guys, this was an awesome first experience in an irc chat. peace.
[20:09] <Myrtti> please, move the non-support to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:09] <enbloc> sucks too because my "PS/2" keyboard is an AT keyboard w/ clickety mechanical keys I found at mom's in a box of obsolete computer stuff
[20:09] <reisio> brontosaurusrex: it is
[20:09] <raboof> is it possible to request a piece of software to be considered for packaging with Ubuntu, like a 'WNPP RFP' in Debian?
[20:09] <enbloc> LOVE it
[20:10] <reisio> yes ps/2 ftw
[20:10] <Gentoo64> enbloc: yeah. ps2 much better
[20:10] <userone> Sarah-34-uk: any version. i used to use alias wavefront on unix boxes. never touched windows for visualisation stuff. unix/linux is the only way.
[20:10] <reisio> enbloc: what version of Ubuntu?
[20:10] <enbloc> 10.04
[20:10] <Myrtti> raboof: yup, file a bug in launchpad for it
[20:10] <enbloc> and ps/2 wakes up my PC in sleep better than USB
[20:10] <reisio> my guess is that's a version using HAL
[20:10] <Gentoo64> enbloc: you could use the usb adapter if you have one
[20:10] <reisio> if you were using an older or newer version it'd probably work without extra effort
[20:10] <Gentoo64> enbloc: the ps2 only let you have the n key rollover
[20:10] <Gentoo64> if the keyboard supports it
[20:10] <reisio> "only"
[20:11] <userone> pfifo: any thoughts on my time/date fix/
[20:11] <reisio> as if not having n key rollover is a way to live
[20:11] <brontosaurusrex> userone, that blender note was silly, blender can run on win or mac as well.
[20:11] <enbloc> n-key rollover isn't a big deal to me but wake up is
[20:11] <pfifo> userone, nothing
[20:11] <Gentoo64> enbloc: if you get a fix let me know
[20:11] <linelevel> Gentoo, zykotick9 : Looks like the new /etc/fstab works for mounting my NTFS file system, but with 2 problems (the latter probably causes the former): (1) The file system doesn't appear in Nautilus or on my desktop, and (2) Everything is owned by root, whereas I'd like it to be owned by my primary user.
[20:11] <enbloc> I don't know if an AT keyboard will do n-key rollover through an adapter anyway
[20:11] <occupant> I've never quite understood that. Who's pressing more than eight keys at once?
[20:12] <userone> brontosaurusrex: not so silly. unix/linux handles large ram better, and only recently did wondows allow a file size bigger than 4gb.
[20:12] <Gentoo64> linelevel: try adding users after defaults
[20:12] <Archenom> can anyone help me with an error im getting in my backtrack 5 terminal
[20:12] <raboof> Myrtti: is there a format or can I just add a free-form bug to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu ?
[20:12] <Gentoo64> linelevel: btfs afaik shouldnt need special stuff for permissions though. but been years since i used ntfs
[20:12] <reisio> occupant: anybody who types around 140wpm or higher
[20:12] <zykotick9> Archenom, backtrack isn't supported here - see "/msg ubottu backtrack"
[20:12] <reisio> occupant: like me
[20:12] <Gentoo64> occupant: mostly gamers
[20:12] <reisio> :D
[20:12] <reisio> and I guess gamers, heh
[20:12] <Gentoo64> but it can help. ps2 has benefits
[20:12] <reisio> but who cares about them
[20:13] <Gentoo64> faster response etc etc
[20:13] <reisio> they're too busy buying keyboard that shine lights in their faces
[20:13] <Gentoo64> yeah
[20:13] <Gentoo64> lol
[20:13] <occupant> I'm struggling to see what kind of games make you do that, even
[20:13] <Gentoo64> occupant: its just freedom basically
[20:13] <Gentoo64> sometimes your holding buttns and some arent responsing
[20:13] <reisio> occupant: consider someone who has been cracking out to a game for 10 hours a day for months
[20:13] <reisio> slamming key combinations in rapid succession
[20:13] <reisio> eventually he will technically hit more than 8 keys at "once"
[20:13] <userone> brontosaurusrex: if you've done visualisation, you would know that with lighting effects, and texture rendering files sizes easily exceed 4gb
[20:13] <reisio> keyboards only poll so fast, you see
[20:13] <reisio> most, anyways
[20:14] <raboof> Myrtti: hmm, i have to use ubuntu-bug/Apport to submit it? I'm not running Ubuntu myself
[20:14] <enbloc> I'd love a mechanical switch backlit natural keyboard, but can't bring myself to pay $200 for a keyboard even if someone did make one
[20:14] <reisio> but again who cares about them
[20:14] <reisio> I'm not a gamer and my typing speed demands n-key rollover
[20:14] <Gentoo64> enbloc: they do
[20:14] <brontosaurusrex> userone, still doesnt make blender a king of the hill and a linux only app
[20:14] <princejoseph> is forked-daapd available in any ubuntu repositories? or is getting it from debian the only way?
[20:14] <Gentoo64> enbloc: what have you got?
[20:14] <enbloc> I haven't found one with all three of those features
[20:14] <reisio> enbloc: give it time :p
[20:14] <enbloc> natural seems to be otw out
[20:14] <reisio> brontosaurusrex: ?
[20:14] <brontosaurusrex> userone, and  no,  i never had 4 gig texture
[20:14] <enbloc> which sucks because it rocks
[20:15] <Olson_> herro
[20:15] <brontosaurusrex> reisio, ?
[20:15] <reisio> my brother is still buying the older version of the ms natural
[20:15] <reisio> the one they literally haven't made for years
[20:15] <Myrtti> raboof: no, you don't need them. just add [needs-packaging] on the name
[20:15] <pfifo> im a gamer and i demand to be able to press every key on the board at once, and an additional 2 fingers on my left hand
[20:15] <reisio> big POS IMO, but it's what he likes
[20:15] <reisio> pfifo: agreed
[20:15] <userone> brontosaurusrex: agreed. perhaps its not 'king of the hill' bbut it can match anything that claims it is, on any o/s or platform
[20:15] <reisio> if you can't drop a brick on your keyboard and get 104 keypresses (etc.) then your keyboard sucks :p
[20:15] <Gentoo64> reisio: what do you use?
[20:16] <enbloc> this is an old ACER 6311 - sucks not having a 'windows' key, but it was in the closet
[20:16] <occupant> dude who sits next to me at work has an old SGI mechanical keyboard
[20:16] <Gentoo64> i like the look of the das
[20:16] <reisio> Gentoo64: for a keyboard?  something crappy right now
[20:16] <Gentoo64> best loking imo
[20:16] <reisio> why I'm typing so slow
[20:17] <Gentoo64> reisio: im looking at getting a das ultimate or filco majestouch
[20:17] <reisio> did you catch that USB keyboard that has a buffer to get n-key?
[20:17] <Gentoo64> apaprently the cherrys arent as good as the ones in hhkbs
[20:17] <Gentoo64> anyway sorry ot
[20:17] <reisio> I can't stand the das
[20:17] <userone> Sarah-34-uk: bottom line. if you want FAST rendering and heavyweight phot realistic visualisation, stick to unix/linux.
[20:17] <reisio> the first model they had was the only one that made any sense
[20:17] <jjgalvez__> is there a gui way to manage user group management in 11.10
[20:17] <Gentoo64> reisio: they look so nice though
[20:17] <reisio> Gentoo64: things that reflect suck
[20:18] <chicco01> ciao
[20:18] <Gentoo64> reisio: the only thing that id think is dust magnet though
[20:18] <reisio> shalom
[20:18] <jess89> I found Code: xinput set-prop "N-Trig MultiTouch" "Device Enabled" 0
[20:18] <chicco01> "/load -rs NewAutoDown.mrc"
[20:18] <Gentoo64> reisio: but its nice piano black matching the montiro
[20:18] <Gentoo64> nice blue lights etc
[20:18] <jess89> But when I do it, it doesn't leave it when I restart the computer.
[20:18] <reisio> Gentoo64: I'm considering getting one of the new leopolds, or one of those choc minis
[20:18] <reisio> Gentoo64: haven't the cash right now, though
[20:18] <Gentoo64> reisio: saw the chocs for very cheap on ebay
[20:18] <Gentoo64> supposed to be good
[20:18] <Gentoo64> ill join offtopic
[20:19] <reisio> just got some 1990s keyboards from someone, though, might tide me over
[20:19] <Sarah-34-uk> userone, stick to Linux and use what software ?
[20:19] <raboof> Myrtti: how, though? 'Report a bug' just redirects me to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[20:19] <raboof> Myrtti: oh, nevermind :S
[20:19] <mongy> reisio: are they missing a win key?
[20:19] <Myrtti> raboof: launchpad.net
[20:20] <reisio> mongy: hhkb's are missing keys on the lower corners
[20:20] <reisio> which is why I can't use them
[20:20] <brontosaurusrex> Sarah-34-uk, obviously you will run ae (your claim) and blender instead of max.
[20:20] <Gentoo64> Sarah-34-uk: or run them in wine
[20:20] <raboof> Myrtti: yeah, the 'report a bug' link in the top-right corner at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu redirects me to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs . But I guess I should read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages first now :)
[20:21] <Myrtti> raboof: indeed
[20:22] <userone> Sarah-34-uk: the good thing with linux is that lots of software if free of cost so you can try what you like. to start, blender will replace 3ds max (easily!), gimp will replace photoshop (99%), all CAD packages are available on unix/linux o/s
[20:22] <Sarah-34-uk> no
[20:22] <userone> Sarah-34-uk: but the CAD packages are not free!
[20:22] <Gentoo64> bear in mind a lot fo people pirate them
[20:22] <Gentoo64> win only
[20:23] <userone> my 'time and date settings' icon seems to be missing. how do i get it back/
[20:23] <raboof> OK I should just get the package into Debian :)
[20:23] <qin> Gentoo64: It is Friday.
[20:23] <Gentoo64> qin: is it?
[20:23] <Gentoo64> saturday here
[20:23] <pnorman> I have a license for solidworks through school, otherwise it'd cost 2.5k or so
[20:24] <sebastian> Gentoo64: i did the memtest
[20:24] <Gentoo64> sebastian: take it no errors
[20:24] <qin> Gentoo64: No clue, but I also like pointless, relatively false statements. (About CAD)
[20:24] <sebastian> Gentoo64: it says pass complete. No errors
[20:25] <sebastian> Gentoo64: but i got a doubt.
[20:25] <Gentoo64> sebastian: its too hard for me to tell
[20:25] <Gentoo64> could be anything
[20:25] <Gentoo64> might be the ram is beig used up
[20:25] <Gentoo64> keep top or htop open and see
[20:25] <sebastian> Gentoo64: it says two things that atract my atention. 1. ECC disables, 2. Single channel (64-bit)
[20:26] <Gentoo64> yeah its probably not ecc
[20:26] <Gentoo64> if its a normal desktop
[20:26] <sebastian> Gentoo64: it means that my sistem is 64 bit?
[20:27] <Gentoo64> sebastian: are you running ubuntu 64 bit?
[20:28] <JeffWiggy> Hi--first time here...I'd appreciate some help
[20:28] <userone> what is the program name for 'time and 'date' so i can reinstall it from synaptic/
[20:29] <zykotick9> !ask | JeffWiggy
[20:29] <JeffWiggy> !ask
[20:29] <zykotick9> JeffWiggy, ask here in the channel
[20:29] <JeffWiggy> I'm having some trouble getting a VGA monitor to read on Oneiric
[20:30] <JeffWiggy> It displays during startup, but as soon as I continue to login, the display reappears only on my laptop
[20:30] <sebastian> Gentoo64: nop i'm running 32-bit
[20:31] <Gentoo64> sebastian: you still havent said, does it hard freeze (requiring a reset) or just super slow?
[20:31] <jjgalvez__> is there a gui that will let me add a user to a group?
[20:31] <Gentoo64> could be the 1gb ram is running out and its cutting into swap
[20:32] <llutz> jjgalvez__: easier to "sudo adduser user group"
[20:32] <sebastian> Gentoo64: it freeze till the point i have to hard reset
[20:32] <sebastian> Gentoo64: what is swap?
[20:32] <Gentoo64> sebastian: does everything freeze, just the keyboard/mouse?
[20:32] <Gentoo64> sebastian: basically ram on a disk
[20:32] <Gentoo64> unbearably slow
[20:33] <jjgalvez__> llutz: will that same command work even if the user already exists?
[20:33] <sebastian> Gentoo64: everything, the screen goes black and leaves the pointer freezed
[20:33] <llutz> jjgalvez__: it only works ig the user exists
[20:33] <Gentoo64> sebastian: i really have no idea tbh
[20:33] <llutz> jjgalvez__: "man adduser"
[20:33] <userone> whatis the package name for the clock applet?
[20:33] <sebastian> :/
[20:33] <jjgalvez__> llutz: thanks will do
[20:35] <JeffWiggy> Here's my issue: my VGA monitor only displays during setup, but disappears once I login. Once I am logged in, the Display menu cannot detect my monitor.
[20:36] <userone> ok..i completely removed eveolution...did this take waya my clock applet too?
[20:37] <stercor> I'm taking over responsibility for a web site.  Can someone recommend a web archiver/crawler/spider.  Archiver seems to be the most applicable.
[20:37] <userone> can i put the clock applet back without reinstalling evolution?
[20:37] <zykotick9> userone, evolution is part of the gnome-desktop-environment meta package - don't try to remove it (i'd guess it's in ubunut-desktop as well, but perhaps not)
[20:38] <zaoul1> stercor: htdig is pretty basic, but I think the new hotness is using stuff like apache solr and lucene 'somehow'
[20:38] <userone> zykotick: too late...i removed evolution once thunderbird was available in 11.10.!
[20:38] <stercor> zaoul1: Well, that's three. :-)
[20:38] <zaoul1> yep, you should be up all night now :)
[20:39] <stercor> zaoul1: Thanks for the warning!
[20:39] <guntbert> where do I set key-bindings (for instance ctrl+alt+T *should* open a terminal) ?
[20:40] <madoo> hi
[20:40] <madoo> can i ask
[20:40] <zaoul1> stercor: depends how feature filled you want it.. htdig you could be up in minutes really
[20:40] <madoo> hello
[20:40] <reisio> madoo: hello is an interesting question
[20:40] <madoo> yes
[20:41]  * R3db3ard thinks reisio is a smarty pants
[20:41] <zykotick9> guntbert, is there not a Preference / Keyboard Shortcuts anymore?
[20:41] <_spt_> madoo: just ask
[20:41] <reisio> R3db3ard: my pants do math
[20:41] <madoo> i have naw xubuntu and i see its like very old .. just can you tell me abut something more
[20:41] <madoo> i can upgrat
[20:41] <reisio> madoo: what makes you think it's old?
[20:42] <madoo> its not like ubuntu
[20:42] <tensorpudding> madoo, what version
[20:42] <robin0800> guntbert, its in system settings keyboard
[20:42] <Sidewinder1> madoo, Perhaps have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Why%20choosing%20a%20fresh%20install
[20:42] <madoo> xubuntu
[20:43] <madoo> i dont know i just upgreatit
[20:43] <guntbert> zykotick9: I'm just getting my toes wet with unity - so where would I find those "preferences"? - ah, I see, system settings contains (under hardware) "keyboard", thx for the hint :)
[20:43] <guntbert> robin0800: thx
[20:44] <zykotick9> guntbert, i keep my toes dry of unity ;)
[20:44] <jjgalvez__> added the gnome-system-tools package and got back the old "users and groups" tool that I was looking for
[20:45] <madoo> can you tell me ... ubuntu have kubuntu and xubuntu and what i can upgreat
[20:46]  * zykotick9 thinks upgrat should become a real word
[20:46] <reisio> madoo: perhaps you should talk to #ubuntu-ar
[20:47] <roasted> Besides DD, how else can I make an ISO out of a DVD? Is there a program to do it?
[20:47] <llutz> roasted: cat
[20:47] <roasted> llutz, I was curious if there was a non terminal way of doing it. My buddy and terminal aren't a match made in heaven.
[20:47] <zykotick9> llutz, nice!  it seem few people are aware that cat can make ISOs these days.
[20:47] <llutz> roasted: k3b
[20:47] <roasted> llutz, does brasero not?
[20:48] <llutz> roasted: idk, i never used
[20:48] <Sidewinder1> roasted, Have a look here: http://blogcritics.org/scitech/article/making-dvds-with-devede-in-linux/
[20:48] <roasted> zykotick9, what differences would there be between using cat vs dd?
[20:48] <userone> i found some simple clocks, but is there a program which can replace the evolution timd/date applet with international times and weather...without reinstalling evolution?
[20:48] <zykotick9> roasted, none really - they're both cli apps
[20:48] <llutz> roasted: cat is easier to type :)
[20:48] <reisio> what's wrong with evolution
[20:48] <brontosaurusrex> userone, i use docky
[20:49] <roasted> llutz, would the structure of the command be the same? if/of, etc?
[20:49] <casey> I am using Ubuntu 10.10 and currently have Firefox 7. I am having touble opening PDFs within firefox if they are in a seperate frame. However, if the PDF links to a new tab, I have no problem. Any ideas?
[20:49] <brontosaurusrex> userone, which is not exactly what you asked for of course
[20:49] <written> why does in 11.10 ~/.screenrc gets ignored?
[20:49] <llutz> roasted: nope, "cat /dev/sr0 >/file.iso" vs "dd if=/dev/sr0 of=file.iso"
[20:50] <syra> hi
[20:50] <graingert> does anyone know where I can get an old deb for Adobe Air 2.6?
[20:50] <reisio> syra: hiyo
[20:50] <cloudgeek>  swift -A http://127.0.0.1:8080/auth/v1.0 -U test:tester -K testing stat
[20:50] <brontosaurusrex> userone, http://wiki.go-docky.com/index.php?title=Welcome_to_the_Docky_wiki
[20:50] <cloudgeek> Account HEAD failed: http://127.0.0.1:8080/v1/AUTH_test 503 Internal Server Error
[20:50] <syra> reisio :]
[20:51] <userone> reisio: nothing wrong with evolution, but now 11,10 comes with thunderbird built in, i have moved all my mail to that. i didnt realise i would lose such a good clock feature by removing evolution
[20:51] <cloudgeek> need help can anyboy fix it [ swift -A http://127.0.0.1:8080/auth/v1.0 -U test:tester -K testing stat
[20:51] <cloudgeek> Account HEAD failed: http://127.0.0.1:8080/v1/AUTH_test 503 Internal Server Error
[20:51] <cloudgeek> ]
[20:51] <madoo> can i get hellp plz
[20:51] <reisio> graingert: air?
[20:51] <syra> happy hallow'ed eve
[20:51] <brontosaurusrex> casey, shift + click? or was it alt + click
[20:51] <graingert> oh sweet it's avail at http://airdownload.adobe.com/air/lin/download/2.6/adobeair.deb
[20:51] <syra> so, in your home directory you have many directories, hidden files and program registers
[20:51] <casey> brontosaurusrex: What does that do?
[20:52] <brontosaurusrex> opens link in new tab
[20:52] <madoo> hello
[20:52] <syra> but, lets say you want to copy home directories from one disty to another
[20:52] <syra> maintaining your registers
[20:52] <syra> without cocking up your login process
[20:52] <brontosaurusrex> casey, not a solution but  a workaround
[20:52] <syra> how would you do this? would a simple copy/paste overwrite work? it didnt for me last time.
[20:53] <madoo> i just want know haw i can update my xubuntu or upgreat to nexit one plz
[20:53] <Sidewinder1> madoo, Did you look here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Why%20choosing%20a%20fresh%20install
[20:53] <reisio> syra: you'd probably want to archive it all, and only add back in configs as you miss them
[20:53] <_spt_> Madoo: whats your question? you are using Ubuntu
[20:53] <syra> reisio ok
[20:53] <Burzmali> I'm a little confused, is there a setting or option that takes off Unity's training wheels?
[20:53] <madoo> yes but i dont undearstand i am new user ubuntu
[20:53] <syra> and lets say you have a collection of made programs in other directories that you'd like to copy from one disty to another
[20:53] <casey> brontosaurusrex: unfortunately its not for me. This is due to the fact the pdf is embedded in a frame. So in other words, when I shift click, it just opens the entire webpage in a new tab, not just the frame I am intending to open. does that make sence?
[20:53] <llutz> syra: cp -a oldpath/ newhome/          but make sure UID/owner is equal and be warned, it might break things if distros use different versions of apps
[20:53] <syra> would you be able to simply copy the directories without having to remake installations?
[20:54] <_spt_> Madoo: open a private chat window with me
[20:54] <madoo> i want upgreat my xubuntu but not for kubuntu
[20:54] <trism> roasted: there is also readom, http://pthree.org/2011/09/26/how-to-properly-create-and-burn-cddvd-iso-images-from-the-command-line/ (haven't tried it but thought it was an interesting article)
[20:54] <syra> llutz , lets say your running as root, what then?
[20:54] <reisio> syra: programs?  Not a great idea
[20:54] <syra> well, simple scripted c programs
[20:54] <syra> runnable as sh ./program should work
[20:54] <syra> or simply as ./program, should work, or not?
[20:54] <brontosaurusrex> casey, yes, i guess, and some other browsers? like chromium?
[20:55] <reisio> syra: things in the home dirs should be fine for the most part
[20:55] <reisio> syra: you don't want to waste time trying to port files elsewhere
[20:55] <syra> reisio so really a packaged reinstallation would be quicker
[20:55] <reisio> most likely, yes
[20:56] <syra> ./configure ./make install would do in most instances
[20:56] <syra> so no biggie
[20:56] <casey> brontosaurusrex: same thing with chromium. Have you ever used a college blackboard site? They heavily rely on frames and none of the browsers I have tried on Ubuntu have been able to do this. However, on a mac, they work just fine :(.
[20:56] <syra> sweet
[20:57] <syra> reisio: so, last check, if theres a make file, i can remake the register and go ahead with a run from homedir
[20:57] <slik> hello.. i accidentally have removed crontab jobs list using `crontab -r` on live server, can i somehow restore it ? :(
[20:57] <brontosaurusrex> casey, what browsers did you try?
[20:57] <twocarlo> hello there, is there a way to restore the connect-disconnect icon at the top panel?
[20:58] <datadoff> hey
[20:58] <reisio> twocarlo: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html maybe
[20:59] <kamiccolo> twocarlo, nm-applet ?
[20:59] <casey> brontosaurusrex: firefox and chromium.
[21:00] <syra> otherwise, who has experience properly installing vast C libs?
[21:00] <brontosaurusrex> casey, opera?
[21:00] <syra> anyone?
[21:01] <casey> brontosaurusrex: opera runs terribly on my computer for some reason. Its always crashing. Plus, I want to have 1 dedicated browser for all that i do. I want to find a long term fix.
[21:01] <syra> i hate being stuck in JAVA
[21:01] <reisio> yes you do
[21:01] <brontosaurusrex> casey, then you would want to have friendly chat with the webmaster of that site
[21:02] <syra> but the C libs dude i can't find a way to properly get them imported
[21:02] <syra> into Eclipse
[21:02] <syra> driving me crazy :]
[21:02] <written> why does in 11.10 ~/.screenrc gets ignored?
[21:02] <i3luefire> why does xchat not show up in the search box for 11.10?
[21:03] <reisio> written: what makes you think it's ignored
[21:03] <reisio> i3luefire: did you install it?
[21:03]  * syra throws a unix manual at syra
[21:04] <syra> lol
[21:04] <i3luefire> reisio, yes
[21:04] <written> reisio, because same thing directly in /etc/screecrc works
[21:04] <written> s/screecrc/screenrc/
[21:04] <reisio> written: show me the diff
[21:05] <reisio> i3luefire: does dpkg -L show the same executable name that you're searching for?
[21:06] <i3luefire> http://pastebin.com/hXdkt78k
[21:07] <i3luefire> yes
[21:07] <reisio> good question, then
[21:07] <i3luefire> reisio, i searched for xchat in the dash home search thingy
[21:07] <casey> brontosaurusrex: Lol, well thats not really possible. I it's a huge college network website. Not to mention, that it works on macs and windows with either chrome and firefox respectively.
[21:09] <brontosaurusrex> casey, i cant really see what is happening without a sample site, so ...
[21:09] <guntbert> systemsettings/keyboard/shortcuts ignores everything I do (like no keypress is even recognized in that app)
[21:10] <Frenato> ciao a tutti .
[21:10] <guntbert> !it | Frenato
[21:11] <twocarlo> yeah kamiccolo, i use ubuntu 10.10 32bit
[21:11] <SilfenX> trying to compile a program but not working at all - is it missing openssl? it shows as being present at /usr/local/openssl/ - this is my output: http://pastebin.com/kML8Btgq
[21:12] <syra> silfen, is that a ssl ddos program?
[21:13] <syra> ...just kidding...
[21:13] <llutz> SilfenX: you need openssl-dev
[21:13] <SilfenX> oh
[21:14] <luigi_> helo
[21:14] <kamiccolo> twocarlo, just right click and choose to add Notification Area :)
[21:14] <guntbert> SilfenX: did you ./configure   and make before?
[21:14] <luigi_> Hi I have Tv tunner usb
[21:14] <luigi_> what program can i use?
[21:14] <luigi_> to watch the tv
[21:15] <tripelb> Alas, someone answered me while I slept and 5000 lines of backscroll passed in the blink of a night. That's why I asked for a PM when I said I would go to sleep. OK time to repeat my dillema... viz
[21:15] <tripelb> I want to be able to read and write a USB ubuntu partition. It  is mine. I know the password to that user account.
[21:15] <guntbert> tripelb: why don't you tell your chat client to keep what is happening in a channel?
[21:16] <html> question to all does you guy know how to read source code ? window guy say you cant .
[21:16] <llutz> html: +support+
[21:16] <kamiccolo> html, what kind of source code? Something like Piet?
[21:17] <tripelb> html, you might try being more specific about what would help you. We dont care what "Window Guy" has to say.
[21:17] <llutz> html: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:17] <tripelb> llutx, thanks for enforcing. Last night was slippery.
[21:17] <luigi_> HI I want  to know which program can i use in tv tunner usb?
[21:17] <alabster> g
[21:18] <LA2> fonts
[21:18] <tripelb> guntbert I have 5000 lines of backscroll. I am suddenly (broken Dell) using a mac. It's difficult. And it might just say "good night, sweet dreams".
[21:18] <userone> anyone know how to convert a vcard file into a csv using the cl (without having to open it an application and then export it again)
[21:19] <alabster> hi, im having trouble fixing the MAC address on my wireless card, im using macchanger, and i manage to change the mac address, but it goes back to default every time i disconnect from a wifi! any ideas? seems to me the adds ive done to "if-up," "if-pre-up," etc dont stick!
[21:19] <LA2> My Ubuntu is fantastic. But the runic fonts look weak and boring. ᚠᚡᚢᚣᚤᚥᚦᚧ
[21:19] <guntbert> tripelb: the person who answered your most likely used your nick, so just search for in in your backscroll
[21:19] <tripelb> guntbert OTOH if you could help me with my problem - reading an outboard USB ext4 partition - when I boot on a liveCD that is. Mac cant read it -> that I know of. Disk Utility tells me the partition is there.
[21:20] <reisio> LA2: because they're too small
[21:20] <R3db3ard> I love my ubuntu
[21:20] <luigi_> which program can i use in a tv media usb?
[21:21] <LA2> reisio: I don't know if "small" is the right word, but the lines are too thin, hardly readable. Why? And how can this be fixed?
[21:21] <mrfree> hi all
[21:21] <tripelb> guntbert, I didnt remember how to separate days, so I probably have one Gigantic File. And xchat-aqua will only search from the beginning of the backscroll in find. Basically, that's water under the bridge. AND of course they used my nick otherwise I wouldnt know anyone addressed me and we wouldnt be having this discussion. The tab turned blue.
[21:21] <brontosaurusrex> tripelb, you on osx ? http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/mac-os-x-read-ext3-ext4-external-usb-hard-disk-partition/
[21:21] <llutz> tripelb: if your username differs from the owner of that usb-fs, you have to be root to read it
[21:21] <mrfree> how can I do the same "user define session" does in the GUI with the command line?
[21:21] <tripelb> brontosaurusrex, thanks I'll check on that.
[21:22] <panfist> i just installed 11.10 and it didn't seem to detect any audio devices. my sound preferences window > hardware, input and output tabs all show empty lists
[21:22] <guntbert> tripelb: at the moment I cannot see what you want/need - or what your problem is, so I cannot even say if I might be able to help
[21:22] <tripelb> llutz, one is never root, what would I do. So far all I can do is a liveCD
[21:22] <LA2> userone: both vcard and csv are plain text and can be manipulated with cat,sed,awk, etc.
[21:22] <llutz> tripelb: use sudo
[21:22] <tripelb> guntbert, NP. Have a great day!!
[21:23] <Stavros> hello
[21:23] <tripelb> llutz, how does that work if I want to use the gui?
[21:23] <userone> LA2..thanks
[21:23] <robin0800> panfist, alsamixer in a terminel
[21:23] <pangolin> tripelb: use gksudo nautilus
[21:23] <Stavros> i tried to upgrade to oneiric but my /boot partition ran out of space (again) and initramfs-tools failed to update. i freed up some space by removing kernels, how can i continue the installation?
[21:23] <BluesKaj> does google-earth work on 11.10 yet for anyone ?
[21:23] <llutz> tripelb: gksu/dksudo
[21:23] <tripelb> llutz, I have a full (72GB) mac drive and I want to move it.
[21:23] <tripelb> llutz, I'll have to look that up.
[21:23] <llutz> gksudo*
[21:24] <i3luefire> http://imgur.com/TNOQx
[21:24] <i3luefire> http://pastebin.com/hXdkt78k
[21:24] <tripelb> pangolin I'll look it up. thanks
[21:24] <subshift> hi all, how can i update the kernel of Ubuntu 11.10?
[21:24] <reisio> LA2: I told you, because they're too small
[21:24] <panfist> card: HDA ATI SB, chip: Realtek ALC888
[21:24] <LA2> reisio: and then what?
[21:24] <i3luefire> anyone know why xchat isnt showing up in that search i have a screenshot of
[21:24] <reisio> LA2: I suppose you could bold the glyphs in the font you're using for them, though
[21:25] <LA2> reisio: Latin, Cyrillic, and Greek letters look strong in the same size, only the runic look thin
[21:25] <reisio> LA2: because latin cyrillic and greek letters share a common glyph ratio
[21:25] <LA2> is there a place or person to go, to define new fonts for inclusion in the next standard Ubuntu? where should I start?
[21:25] <turbo> helo
[21:26] <reisio> good question
[21:26] <eldar> hi! I'm having a problem with Unity, I need to disable auto-hide of the Launcher panel. I went into ccsm, chose unity plugin and set auto-hide to "Never". But it didn't change anything, it still auto hides.
[21:26] <reisio> turbo: hi
[21:27] <riveram> hey how do i set up anonymity on pidgin?
[21:28] <reisio> anonymity?
[21:28] <reisio> please tell me that isn't the name of something
[21:28] <turbosuper> lol
[21:28] <html> http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/08/17/wwwmicrosoftcom_runs_linux_up_to_a_point_.html
[21:28] <turbosuper> hey guys, I upgraded from ubuntu 11.04 to ubuntu 11.10 and didnt like it because it is buggy and I am not that firmilar with the unity.  I tried rolling back to gnome, but it wasent really like the old ubuntu.
[21:28] <reisio> turbosuper: downer
[21:28] <html>    windows running linux? http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/08/17/wwwmicrosoftcom_runs_linux_up_to_a_point_.html
[21:28] <riveram> well for example i set up a user name and it shows it on my window, but you guys obviously see my account name.
[21:28] <reisio> ah
[21:29] <turbosuper> yeah. I know a fresh install was better but, yeah I was lazy
[21:29] <reisio> riveram: #freenode can give you a hostmask for freenode alone
[21:29] <turbosuper> Wait, so now, what do you think I should do, go with ubuntu 11.04 or 11.10
[21:29] <reisio> turbosuper: dunno about that
[21:29] <reisio> turbosuper: um
[21:29] <turbosuper> I mean, I can get used to the new one too.
[21:29] <riveram> k
[21:29] <reisio> turbosuper: well it depends on what you think you'll do down the road
[21:30] <reisio> turbosuper: your choices are: get used to GNOME 3 as it is, modify GNOME 3, switch to something else, switch to GNOME 2 and postpone the inevitable or hope some organization picks up maintenance
[21:30] <turbosuper> lol
[21:31] <reisio> GNOME _probably_ won't make another drastic change for a year or two :p
[21:31] <turbosuper> I dont know,I am only using ubuntu for personal reasons and like the only thing I will do on their is run eclipse,  watch some videos and browse the web
[21:31] <turbosuper> i think I might go with the new ubuntu or go with like another ubuntu distro or something
[21:31] <turbosuper> ill see....
[21:31] <reisio> turbosuper: okay, well, it shouldn't be hard to figure out how to do _just that_ in the new version :p
[21:32] <turbosuper> lol
[21:32] <reisio> but if you're reinstalling either way, I suppose installing 10.04 LTS would save you time (at least in the short run)
[21:32] <reisio> (that is until 2013)
[21:32] <turbosuper> yeah.... will do... thanks, but can I downgrade from 11.10/
[21:32] <turbosuper> if not I might as well go with 11.10
[21:33] <reisio> it's not advisable
[21:33] <turbosuper> but I have experianced a longer boot time
[21:33] <zykotick9> !downgrade | turbosuper
[21:33] <turbosuper> thanks zykotick9
[21:33] <subshift> 10.4 is the best so far. i rather stay with it till 2013 :)
[21:33] <subshift> 10.04 i mean
[21:33] <turbosuper> reisio: which one are you on?
[21:34] <reisio> don't use Ubuntu :D
[21:34] <turbosuper> Lol
[21:34] <turbosuper> Windows, mac, other distro?
[21:34] <reisio> other
[21:34] <reisio> I use Xfce ATM, though
[21:34] <turbosuper> ohh
[21:34] <reisio> so I suppose if I did use Ubuntu, it'd be of the Xubuntu/Xfce variety
[21:34] <turbosuper> Mint looks good.
[21:34] <reisio> Mint is Ubuntu
[21:34] <turbosuper> ik
[21:35] <brontosaurusrex> mint katya is natty based so old gnome still rocks there
[21:35] <turbosuper> looks make a big diffrence to me
[21:35] <Myrtti> no, actually, it is not
[21:35] <turbosuper> lubuntu is faster though
[21:35] <turbosuper> yeah
[21:35] <turbosuper> but its debian based
[21:35]  * turbosuper will be back
[21:35] <Myrtti> mint is mint
[21:35] <turbosuper> alright im back
[21:35] <turbosuper> now I have to decide which rom I should go wiht
[21:35] <Ivoz> anyone have experience with tmux?
[21:35] <brontosaurusrex> turbosuper, there is a version that is debian based and a version that is ubuntu based
[21:35] <casey>  I am using Ubuntu 10.10 and currently have Firefox 7. I am having touble opening PDFs within firefox if they are in a seperate frame. However, if the PDF links to a new tab, I have no problem. Any ideas?
[21:36] <turbosuper> brontosaurusrex: thanks.
[21:36] <turbosuper> I have cynogenmod, should I tried ICS?
[21:36] <casey> hey brontosaurusrex, I got logged off. Sorry for leaving. Did you ever see my last reply?
[21:37] <brontosaurusrex> casey, o long term solution and that you cant talk to a webmaster?
[21:37] <brontosaurusrex> a*
[21:37] <casey> brontosaurusrex: exactly. I just need firefox to work the same as it does on a mac or pc. I love ubuntu and dont want to have to dual boot to see my colleges stuff.
[21:38] <riveram> is there any way to search for a particular room in the room list?
[21:38] <riveram> sorry i'm really new to this.
[21:38] <brontosaurusrex> casey, if you get recreate a part of the site and make it available online i may take a quick look
[21:38] <Flannel> riveram: /msg alis #*foobar*
[21:39] <casey> brontosaurusrex: I really doubt I can do that lol. Is there a site you know that already has a pdf displayed in a frame?
[21:39] <turbosuper> Just another question, lets say I pickup 11.04 , can I later on upgrade to 12.04?
[21:40] <casey> turbosuper: you sure can. It will just take 2 upgrades. Or you can do a clean install (recommended).
[21:40] <brontosaurusrex> casey, not really, the use of frames is considered as bad netitude this days
[21:41] <casey> brontosaurusrex: I definitely agree. I hate the fact the my college uses them. Im pretty sure its heavily guarded security wise. I can try and find another site perhaps?
[21:41] <brontosaurusrex> casey, sure, the one that fails exactly like your college site
[21:42] <brontosaurusrex> turbosuper, i think lts releases provide direct upgrade pack, but ppl usually suggest clean install
[21:42] <brontosaurusrex> uf, i meant path not pack
[21:43] <casey> brontosaurusrex: I am having toruble finding any supporting information regarding firefox and ubuntu as well as an example site (as you said, they are a daying breed). Any other ideas on how we can fix it?
[21:43] <Ivoz> how can I troubleshoot tmux silently failing?
[21:44] <brontosaurusrex> casey, alternative browser, but you said that you dont like that, so i have no other suggestions
[21:44] <Jordan_U> casey: Are you using Adobe's PDF plugin?
[21:44] <reisio> Ivoz: strace?
[21:45] <Ivoz> reisio: how do I do that? if I run tmux in console, just nothing happens, nothing returns. You know where I can find logs, or how to run strace?
[21:45] <Jordan_U> Ivoz: What does happen when you try to use tmux?
[21:45] <CQN> hi, is anyone familiar with the screen going black while playing video with mplayer using vdpau?
[21:46] <Jordan_U> CQN: Is the video playing full screen? If not, is the blackness only where the video would otherwise show?
[21:46] <Ivoz> Jordan_U: nothing, pretty much. no error or startup or anything
[21:46] <strigoi66> Anyone know a way to sync folders between 2 pc's without ubuntuone?
[21:46] <Jordan_U> Ivoz: Does it exit?
[21:47] <zykotick9> strigoi66, rsync perhaps?
[21:47] <Ivoz> Jordan_U: if i give it a bad command it will say unknown command. with good command or no arguments it just does nothing, gives next term prompt
[21:47] <Jordan_U> !rsync | strigoi66
[21:47] <deadlyquirk> be careful with rsync
[21:48] <strigoi66> zykotick9: will give it a try thanks to all I'm still trying to learn all linux has to offer!
[21:48] <deadlyquirk> -n is the dry run command.. It will make sure you don't move everything to the wrong directory.
[21:48] <Jordan_U> Ivoz: What is the exit code when it exits? What command are you running exactly? ("tmux --foo; echo $?" to see the exit status)
[21:49] <Ivoz> Jordan_U: always 1
[21:49] <strigoi66> deadlyquirk: Thanks for that bit of info!
[21:50] <casey> brontosaurusrex: Ok thanks for trying.
[21:51] <anAngel> Hello. Any stable single-instance filesystem for/on ubuntu?
[21:51] <casey> Jordan_U: I believe I am using the mozplugger to handle pdfs in firefox. Do you have an alternative?
[21:51] <brontosaurusrex> casey, np, also check you pdf reader as Jordan_U suggested
[21:52] <CQN> Jordan_U: the video is playing fullscreen. when i un-fullscreen it, a small bar at the top of the screen is visible, everything else is still black.
[21:52] <MikeChelen> is there any way to change the mouse cursor size in 11.10?
[21:52] <casey> brontosaurusrex: Thanks again,
[21:52] <CQN> Jordan_U: only happens when i specifically use vpdau to play the video (using the -vo and -vc mplayer flags)
[21:52] <CQN> but i need those flags because otherwise 1080p video will lag/stutter
[21:52] <ChogyDan> hey guys, Im running natty i386.  Which alternate ISO do I download to upgrade?
[21:53] <eldar> Unity is quite slow, is this a known issue? For example switching tasks with Alt-Tab takes 1.5 seconds per task
[21:53] <CQN> eldar: tried using unity 2d instead?
[21:53] <Jordan_U> CQN: I'm guessing that small bar is the top of the mplayer window, and the blackness is only where the video would otherwise be playing (taking up most of the screen as it is large).
[21:53] <CQN> change to it on the login screen using the gear icon
[21:53] <eldar> CQN, thanks I'll try now
[21:53] <brontosaurusrex> CQN, does if happen with any video or only with something huge like 1080p?
[21:53] <CQN> Jordan_U: no, it's still black even after killing mplayer
[21:53] <anAngel> Anyone to know of any stable filesystem with de-duplication support for ubuntu 11.10 or linux at all?
[21:55] <CQN> brontosaurusrex: not sure, i will try another video and see if it happens. it's difficult to reproduce because it's intermittent. sometimes it shows up within a few seconds of the video starting, but at other times it takes several minutes
[21:55] <Jordan_U> casey: There are two proprietary alternatives. First, Adobe Acrobat (Adobe's official plugin supports GNU/Linux) and second Google Chrome has a proprietary PDF reader built in (which is not available in Chromium because the plugin is proprietary).
[21:55] <MeganLWoulffe> any idea why LCD brightness doesn't not save between restarts?
[21:56] <AciD`> hi
[21:56] <eldar> CQN didn't help
[21:56] <eldar> also it takes about 5 seconds to launch a dialog after I press Alt-F2
[21:56] <casey> Jordan_U: Which do you recommend for Firefox? And also, how do I go about making the swtich? Is it an add-on? Bottom line, I just want it to work.
[21:58] <AciD`> I just installed a fresh 11.10 ubuntu alongside my 11.04, just to check how things where doing. Now I'm conviced I'd like to switch to that new install, is it possible to use the previous encrypted /home (which was on another partition) with the new system ?
[21:58] <MikeChelen> anAngel: maybe http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/fuse/index.php?title=CompressedFileSystems#FuseCompress
[21:58] <Ivoz> reisio, Jordan_U: here is strace of it (strace tmux 2> tmux.txt) https://gist.github.com/1325148
[21:59] <ChogyDan> AciD`: make life easy, just backup the /home unencrypted, and go from there
[21:59] <casey> Jordan_U: i think i found what you were talking about. Thanks for your help.
[21:59] <CQN> eldar: clean install or upgrade?
[21:59] <Jordan_U> casey: For Firefox I would try Adobe Reader: http://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/.  Use '9.4.2 for Linux (.deb)'
[21:59] <eldar> CQN upgrade, from 10.10 actually
[22:00] <casey> Jordan_U: Awesome, thanks a ton!
[22:00] <MikeChelen> anyone know how to change the mouse cursor size in 11.10?
[22:00] <MeganLWoulffe> any idea why LCD brightness doesn't not save between restarts?
[22:01] <AciD`> ChogyDan: my /home backup is up to date, but I don't see what you mean by that
[22:02] <tlm> Weird can't get sound out of either the speakers or headphone jack on an Acer Travelmate 2413LCi, LSHW = http://pastebin.com/dT4aHNbk APLAY and LPCI = http://pastebin.com/1TtPGvAA I found it junked, replaced the Broadcom wifi with an Intel card, oddly, the ethernet jack also doesn't work, not recognized by the router.
[22:03] <Aleo> hi ppl
[22:03] <ChogyDan> AciD`: I was just thinking you could now make the setup you want, and then copy in your /home files (to get around encryption issues)       so, setup your new setup, then copy in /home, reboot
[22:03] <cristian> conan
[22:03] <MeganLWoulffe> any idea why LCD brightness doesn't not save between restarts?
[22:04] <ruslan> Hello! Just test :)
[22:04] <cristian> conan 2001
[22:05] <guntbert> language settings: in my ccsm I have a strange mix of English and German names - see http://imagebin.org/181497   -- I want it all in English
[22:06] <syra> are there files in root you can't copy?
[22:06] <syra> i know there are a few, anyone know which ones?
[22:07] <Ivoz> i just purged and reinstalled tmux, it's still just outputting error 1. what else could I do to reset it?
[22:07] <Majere_Draven> Is it me or does ubuntu have less customization choices now?
[22:08] <Ivoz> Majere_Draven: that's highly subjective, so probably you
[22:08] <syra> the customization choices are limited by your ability to program them
[22:08] <CarlFK> syra: $ cp /vmlinuz .  => cp: cannot open `/vmlinuz' for reading: Permission denied
[22:08] <reisio> Majere_Draven: it's not just you, but mostly it's GNOME, not Ubuntu
[22:08] <shantorn> the new unity interface is a bit limited yet but its improving
[22:08] <syra> CarlFK yes, thats the installation enviroment, i mean the root user enviroment
[22:09] <reisio> Majere_Draven: over time people will hack it to bits
[22:09] <MikeChelen> anyone know how to change the mouse cursor size in 11.10?
[22:09] <CarlFK> syra: you mean /root ?
[22:09] <syra> CarlFK yessir
[22:09] <reisio> MikeChelen: could always use ~/.Xdefaults, I think
[22:09] <syra> don't get on my case about running as root
[22:09] <syra> i wan't to do it until i learn my lesson
[22:09] <MikeChelen> reisio: there is no such file, should it be created?
[22:09] <reisio> MikeChelen: Xcursor.size: #
[22:09] <reisio> MikeChelen: you can create it, yes
[22:09] <syra> otherwise /root acts like /home
[22:10] <reisio> MikeChelen: and then log out and back in, I think is simplest
[22:10] <syra> but theres a difference.
[22:10] <CarlFK> syra: root can copy anything.. so what do you mean "can't copy" ?
[22:10] <MikeChelen> reisio: ok thanks, will try that
[22:10] <reisio> MikeChelen: there's probably a util still but I'm used to ~/.Xdefaults
[22:10]  * reisio shrugs
[22:10] <syra> CarlFK try for instance, chmod 755 /root
[22:10] <[snake]> Can I have icons in my right-click new files menu? I have some templates in my templates folder, and I think the nice icons would compliment my menu.
[22:10] <syra> CarlFK then copy root to [user]/home
[22:10] <syra> and try logging on, it doesn't work for me
[22:11] <CarlFK> syra: um.. whats this mean:  [user]/home
[22:11] <AciD`> ChogyDan: perhaps I should reformulate : is there a way to copy/paste the encryption configuration, so that my 11.04 and 11.10 systems could use the same /home partition ?
[22:11] <syra> CarlFK sorry, i meant /home/[username]
[22:11] <CarlFK> syra: um, what are you trying to do anyway?
[22:12] <syra> CarlFK annoy myself? :] seriously... i tried creating a user and copy my root settings for programs/files/downloads, as would be in a normal home/[username] case
[22:12] <syra> after doing all that, which worked... that user could not log in
[22:12] <[snake]> syra, are you on backtrack?
[22:12] <syra> after messing around a little, user could log in but could not run X
[22:12] <CQN> eldar: there are a lot of problems when you do in-place upgrades. a clean install might help
[22:13] <syra> [snake] not for nuch longer
[22:13] <CarlFK> syra: that's what you get for trying to do werid stuff.  just use the normal stuff and don't worry about the weird stuff - it isn't worth the effort
[22:13] <tlm> Weird can't get sound out of either the speakers or headphone jack on an Acer Travelmate 2413LCi, LSHW = http://pastebin.com/dT4aHNbk APLAY and LPCI = http://pastebin.com/1TtPGvAA
[22:13] <syra> carlFX roger
[22:13] <eldar> CQN, thanks! I might do it then. Overall it went quite smooth, but I guess there are a lot of changes for it to upgrade properly
[22:13] <treeific> long time
[22:13] <[snake]> syra, just add the ubuntu repos and do an update and your system will be ubuntu with backtrack stuff perfectly
[22:14] <strigoi66> thanks to all rsync worked like a champ and very quickly i have to say!
[22:14] <MikeChelen> reisio: seems to have had no effect
[22:14] <syra> [snake] didn't work for me, on the standard repos update -d failed
[22:14] <zykotick9> syra, mixing different distros is a terrible idea anyways
[22:14] <MikeChelen> reisio: it's weird because the mouse cursors for things like resize window and hotlinks is large, but the main mouse pointer is still small
[22:14] <syra> [snake] i used the update manager and followed instructions exactly, but after the complete upgrade i had code erros on boot
[22:15] <ChogyDan> AciD`: I don't know, but it sounds like a bad idea.  You are going to have conflicting versions of config files.  Someone else may know more, but mixing a single /home with different installs I think is not doable
[22:15] <reisio> MikeChelen: good times
[22:15] <syra> zykotick9 yes it is, and the backtrack forum mates confirm this
[22:15] <[snake]> syra, oh... alright idk then
[22:15] <[snake]> syra, try installing normal ubuntu and just use a bt5 usb for pentesting
[22:15] <Majere_Draven> I can't wait till Ubuntu is back to its uber customizability thing.
[22:15] <searching> can't install Lubuntu 11.10
[22:16] <syra> [snake] no biggie, i'm going to give 11.10 a good live boot, see if my system likes it and then install various backtrack apps, aircrack, zenmap, the framework etc via the backtrack repos and it won't matter at all
[22:16] <MikeChelen> reisio: haven't found any way to adjust size through gui now, so the larger cursors are probably left over from before upgrade
[22:16] <[snake]> Majere_Draven, will they go back?
[22:16] <syra> all the rest of my programs, code, settings, graphics, audio can be copied
[22:16] <zykotick9> Majere_Draven, don't hold your breath.  ubuntu is headed in the opposite direction - no customization, just like apple ;)
[22:16] <tlm> Weird can't get sound out of either the speakers or headphone jack on an Acer Travelmate 2413LCi, LSHW = http://pastebin.com/dT4aHNbk APLAY and LPCI = http://pastebin.com/1TtPGvAA
[22:16] <Majere_Draven> Eventually it will be highly customizable again, It won't be what it was back then, Probably better. thats how progress works
[22:17] <AciD`> ChogyDan: ChogyDan the configuration file mix is not a problem for my kubuntu installation. I really do need to understand how ecryptfs is configured by ubuntu so I could copy the settings between the systems..
[22:17] <[snake]> syra, if you have onwership problems you can do chown [username here] -hR ./dir_with_ur_s3ttingz
[22:17] <Majere_Draven> Hopefully, you are dread rong zykotick8
[22:17] <Majere_Draven> Hopefully, you are dread rong zykotick9
[22:17] <syra> -hR ? :] hmmm thanks
[22:17] <brontosaurusrex> Majere_Draven, i doubt that, since they think that the bricked left dock is a design idea , "the look of it"....
[22:17] <[snake]> syra, it will take care of all of the subdirs and files
[22:17] <brontosaurusrex> Majere_Draven, talking about unity
[22:17] <Ivoz> Majere_Draven: I'm just using gnome_shell, like it better
[22:18] <syra> [snake] so, practically speaking... i might hit a few snags here and there, but root hidden and program files/folders must be recusivlely chowned and copied... i'm skeptical ;]
[22:18] <Majere_Draven> I really wish I could put that unity bar on the other side atleast, or make it smaller
[22:18] <Ivoz> what tmux files could be left over after sudo apt-get purge tmux? it won't work when i reinstall it
[22:19] <Ivoz> Majere_Draven: they decided on design principle somehow that it must be on the left. yes, there have been quite a few blog posts about that
[22:19] <taobao> 有人在没有
[22:19] <syra> i don't even know yet if 11.10 will enjoy my dualcore intel and gma 950 gpu, not to mention soundcard, internal modem and pcmcia.. we shall c
[22:19] <brontosaurusrex> Majere_Draven, at the moment i would use some other dock and gnome classic
[22:19] <[snake]> syra, why not use 10.04?
[22:19] <Majere_Draven> I'll use gnome classic, I don't like docks.
[22:19] <MikeChelen> Majere_Draven: there is a way to move unity to bottom, but it takes some manual steps http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/how-to-move-unity-launcher-to-bottom-of.html
[22:20] <userone> i just installed pcmanfm but the icon is missing. i can run the program from the cl so i know its there and working. how do i install the icon, and why werent the icon dependent packages downloaded?
[22:20] <syra> [snake] am using 10.04 now and am satisfied
[22:20] <bsmith093> is there a way to batch compress folders one archive each
[22:20] <Ivoz> Majere_Draven: have you tried gnome shell?
[22:20] <Majere_Draven> I'm about to Ivoz
[22:20] <syra> [snake] just playing mate
[22:20] <Majere_Draven> its the old ubuntu shell, right?
[22:20] <Aleo> brb
[22:21] <Jordan_U> Ivoz: ~/.tmux
[22:21] <Ivoz> Majere_Draven: i think gnome 3.0 started out with a lot less customisation than v2, but its slowly coming back, as opposed to unity
[22:21] <userone> or...the home folder icon in the dash...how can i get that to fire up pcmanfm rather than nautilus?
[22:21] <syra> it doesn't matter, the difference between the disty's, their functionality and purpose is not large, from 10.04 to 11.10
[22:21] <Ivoz> Jordan_U: nothing there
[22:21] <[snake]> If ubuntu removes 10.04 after a while without allowing for the nice interface I've come to love, I will probably switch to another distro.
[22:21] <syra> bells and whissles
[22:21] <reisio> [snake]: won't do any good
[22:22] <reisio> [snake]: it's GNOME that has stopped making GNOME 2, not Ubuntu
[22:22] <[snake]> Just think, what is backtrack going to do... they
[22:22] <bazhang> [snake], thats gnome2, it's going away. regardless of ubuntu
[22:22] <[snake]> reisio, IT MAKES SENSE NOW!
[22:22] <reisio> [snake]: however by the time 10.04 goes EOL, I expect either people to have mastered GNOME 3 to work like 2, or for 2 to be maintained once more
[22:22] <Ivoz> [snake]: 10.10 should still be good
[22:22] <syra> thats the reason, the core OS is still the same, its ubuntu after all
[22:22] <MikeChelen> [snake]: there is still gnome classic option as of 11.04
[22:22] <reisio> [snake]: the former is somewhat more sensible
[22:22] <mongy> xubuntu is more like gnome2 than fallback
[22:23] <Majere_Draven> What is Kubuntu? what does it do?
[22:23] <syra> but, anyone... will installing GTK3 on 10.04 go through?
[22:23] <[snake]> MikeChelen, the problem with gnome classic, is it has added some odd and necessary compiz options like "composite"
[22:23] <Ivoz> if there was a distro like fedora, but using apt... I would probably go to it
[22:24] <reisio> Ivoz: and eventually it would stop supporting GNOME 2 as well
[22:24] <MikeChelen> [snake]: compositing seemed to be optional in 11.04
[22:24] <[snake]> Majere_Draven, it uses kde
[22:24] <reisio> the primary reason this is an Ubuntu thing is because Ubuntu is so "unstable"
[22:24] <Majere_Draven> I see
[22:24] <syra> hehe, guess not :]
[22:24] <Ivoz> reisio: what context did you say that in?
[22:24] <reisio> as akin to the dev branch of other distros
[22:25] <reisio> they'll have to make the same decision, move to GNOME 3 or support GNOME 2 on their own
[22:25] <zabomber> hi. i have setup avahi on ubuntu 11.04 to share folder to my mac. i can't access my NTFS USB External disk… says permissions are denied? any ideas?
[22:25] <[snake]> MikeChelen, it made my system act up if I didn't have it on... it wasn't forced on me by ubuntu settings, I needed it because things would start to malfunction without it.
[22:25] <Ivoz> isn't in fedora.. the main branch only _just_ behind the dev, anyway?
[22:25] <pdq> gnome-shell > gnome-panel. when gnome-panel 1st came out it had few options and customizations as well :)
[22:25] <Majere_Draven> So how do i get just pure linux?
[22:25] <Majere_Draven> and would that be more fun?
[22:25] <reisio> Ivoz: no the main branch is RHEL :p
[22:25] <Ivoz> extensions, themes, are all slowly but surely coming for gnome shell
[22:26] <syra> http://gnome-look.org
[22:26] <reisio> Majere_Draven: hrmm?
[22:26] <[snake]> Majere_Draven, pure linux is a kernel not an os.
[22:26] <syra> knock yerself out?
[22:26] <Ivoz> reisio: well it's clearly not rhel
[22:26] <reisio> Ivoz: it clearly is
[22:26] <CarlFK> Majere_Draven: http://kernel.org/, no.
[22:26] <Majere_Draven> lol :D
[22:26]  * w30 trying out xubuntu on /dev/sda3 to see if I can escape gnome3 and Unity
[22:26] <[snake]> Majere_Draven, not sure if there is an original GNU
[22:26] <graingert> Majere_Draven: I guess you could build one yourself
[22:26] <reisio> Majere_Draven: you'd install Debian and at the end of the install process, deselect the desktop option
[22:26] <graingert> like your own distro
[22:26] <MikeChelen> [snake]: oh hmm weird, maybe video card driver issue?
[22:27] <reisio> w30: you can install the xubuntu packages on your existing install
[22:27] <CarlFK> Majere_Draven: it won't boot, it won't have a user interface, it won't have any apps, it wont have anything configured.  it won't be any fun.
[22:27] <Majere_Draven> My own Distro...I know nothing about programming though
[22:27] <[snake]> MikeChelen, most likely...
[22:27] <reisio> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[22:27] <brontosaurusrex> Ivoz, yes, but neither unity or gnome-shell are meant to be themed in a root sense i think
[22:27] <MikeChelen> the server version of ubuntu has no desktop environment by default
[22:27] <userone> how do i change the default file manager from nautilus to pcmanfm without unstalling nautilus (which would break ubuntu)
[22:27] <reisio> MikeChelen: probably has server bloat, though, no?
[22:28] <MikeChelen> reisio: by default there is very little installed, it will run on 128mb ram :D
[22:28] <w30> reisio, I heard that so that might be an option too
[22:28] <reisio> MikeChelen: still, more than base Debian
[22:28] <Ivoz> reisio: is rell on gnome 3 yet?
[22:28] <Ivoz> *rhel
[22:28] <reisio> I can't imagine it is
[22:28] <SilfenX> when typing a cmd at the prompt in a terminal, does only assume the actual executable is in a specific path in the system or does it that AND look in the current path where the prompt is at?
[22:28] <Majere_Draven> Eventually Maybe I'de like to make my own Desktop user interface
[22:28] <MikeChelen> reisio: maybe there are config settings good for server but bad for desktop
[22:28] <[snake]> You know, if I need to update, I could use XFCE or KDE
[22:29] <reisio> Ivoz: Wikipedia thinks it's still using GNOME 2
[22:29] <CarlFK> SilfenX: curent dir is not added to the path -
[22:29] <Majere_Draven> Maybe A User Interface that would be workable with a game controller lol
[22:29] <Ivoz> brontosaurusrex: i don't think so, gnome shell is very themable
[22:29] <w30> reisio, I could probably get the adding part done but I wouldn't know what to remove.
[22:29] <pnorman> SilfenX: it seaches $PATH. By default, . is not in the path
[22:29] <reisio> Ivoz: but that will change in time, unless Red Hat wants to take up that responsibility
[22:29] <pdq> brontosaurusrex, gnome-shell is totally themeable even in it's present condition, it's all .js and .css files which can be edited as well as lots of themes pre-made
[22:29] <userone> how do i start a stopped job (ctrl-z stopped it)
[22:29] <reisio> w30: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce explains what to add, and what to remove if you want to avoid bloat/etc.
[22:29] <Ivoz> reisio: so isn't that kind of a huge different between fedora and rhel, that's what i was getting at
[22:30] <urlin2u> Majere_Draven, you can modify and mix DE that are out there, building a new one would be a serious project.
[22:30] <w30> reisio, going there now, thanks
[22:30] <reisio> Ivoz: one is on 3 and one on 2 AFAIK, yes
[22:30] <CarlFK> SilfenX: if you want to run foo in the current dir: ./foo - thats a case of "give the path to the file"  like /home/me/foo  or bin/foo
[22:30] <reisio> Ivoz: because RHEL is behind... because it's the stable version
[22:30] <brontosaurusrex> Ivoz, pdq ok, hopefully functionality is themable as well
[22:30] <overdub> userone: fg %1
[22:30] <mongy> brontosaurusrex: if you want nice theme, try Zukitwo.  I love it
[22:30] <SilfenX> whats the default execution path of files ?
[22:30] <reisio> SilfenX: ?
[22:30] <Majere_Draven> Thanks Urlin2u I'de like to watch someone else make one.. Just to see
[22:31] <Ivoz> reisio: like, sure, rhel is fedoras base, but it's way out in front of it in downstream updates
[22:31] <zykotick9> SilfenX, "echo $PATH" to see
[22:31] <syra> SilfenX i believe executable files are executable where they are
[22:31] <CarlFK> SilfenX: $ echo $PATH => /home/juser/bin:/home/juser/.virtualenvs/veyepar/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[22:31] <reisio> Ivoz: in what?
[22:31] <syra> you can execute them from anywhere by properly referring their location, or register them with ./configure ./make
[22:31] <Toph2> where does ubuntu keep its executable files?
[22:31] <Ivoz> updates to gnome, file system, kernel, etc
[22:31] <syra> toph2 in /bin
[22:32] <urlin2u> Majere_Draven, it is teams that do it really, at least for releases that get put in OS, but there are 100's of custom builds that tinkerer's do.
[22:32] <Toph2> sythanks
[22:32] <Ivoz> Toph2: /usr/bin
[22:32] <reisio> Toph2: most will be in /usr/bin/, but there are several locations
[22:32] <Toph2> i see
[22:32] <reisio> Toph2: for specific packages you can do dpkg -L packagename | grep bin
[22:32] <brontosaurusrex> mongy, so far i dont like the concept, so different theme wont make me happy (ill stick with something with gnome2 for a while)
[22:32] <urlin2u> Majere_Draven, check out puppy linux and the puplets the puplets are custom builds
[22:32] <Toph2> reisio,,, thanks,, that's helpful
[22:33] <SilfenX> putting an executable file in the /home/user/bin/ path wouldnt require me to type it s path every time then?
[22:33] <zykotick9> Toph2, using "which foo_program" is easer then the dpkg/grep thing
[22:33] <reisio> SilfenX: if echo $PATH has /home/user/bin/
[22:33] <reisio> SilfenX: I'd use /usr/local/bin/ personally
[22:33] <reisio> personal choice, though
[22:33] <SilfenX> ok, thank you all
[22:33] <CarlFK> SilfenX: create a bin dir in your home, reboot, bin will be added to the path, put your new stuff in there.
[22:34] <brontosaurusrex> SilfenX, if you want to use current dir then try running it with a dot and slash, like ./ffmpeg
[22:34] <zykotick9> CarlFK, reboot -- lol, just logout/login is fine
[22:34] <Burzmali> I'm a little confused, is there a setting or option that takes off Unity's training wheels?
[22:34] <OroNx> http://ow.ly/72N33
[22:34] <graingert> SilfenX: or just add it to you path manually
[22:35] <graingert> Burzmali: what wheels
[22:35] <syra> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/ <3
[22:35] <Majere_Draven> now... what is so special about Mint?
[22:35] <syra> be a man, read the manuals lol
[22:35] <graingert> Burzmali: it's called debian-testing
[22:35] <bazhang> OroNx, dont paste that here
[22:36] <CarlFK> zykotick9: sounds reasonable.  any idea where ~/bin gets added?  I thought ~.bashrc, but I don't see it in there.
[22:36] <Burzmali> graingert: Everything seems designed to eliminate the chance I could break something
[22:36] <Burzmali> graingert: Which also prevents me from making anything usefu;
[22:36] <graingert> Burzmali: try gnome shell
[22:36] <graingert> or a terminal
[22:36] <graingert> what can't you do that you used to be able to do
[22:36] <Burzmali> graingert: I could, but I am trying to give Unity a fair shake
[22:36] <CarlFK> Majere_Draven: I hear Mint has better support for older hardware
[22:37] <pdq> Burzmali, if install; compiz config settings manager you can tweak some unity things, plenty of ways to break things there lol :)
[22:37] <w30> reisio, thats a good site! Lots of 'god stuff"' in there.
[22:37] <graingert> w30: ?
[22:37] <reisio> w30: yeah didn't look half useless to me, either
[22:37] <Burzmali> graingert: For example, I can't fiddle with anything on the Quick launch bar
[22:37] <CarlFK> isn't there something like gnome-tweaks ?
[22:38] <syra> gnome-tweak-tool
[22:38] <syra> carlFX google that
[22:38] <graingert> Burzmali: like what?
[22:38] <zykotick9> CarlFK, sorry i can't find the source of ~/bin actually???
[22:38] <w30> graingert, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[22:38] <Burzmali> graingert: Moving it to the bottom or right would be a start
[22:38] <graingert> Burzmali: oh there are hax for that
[22:39] <userone> which config file do i change to fire up psmanfm instead of nautilus
[22:39] <bazhang> gnome-tweak-tool  <--- CarlFK
[22:39] <graingert> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/gunity-app-lets-you-tweak-the-unity-desktop/
[22:39] <pdq> Burzmali, also can add custom entries to right click launcher items http://askubuntu.com/questions/35488/list-of-custom-launchers-quicklists-for-unity
[22:39] <Burzmali> graingert: Adding some command options would be another
[22:39] <CarlFK> bazhang: thanks.  this thing has a tone of deps...
[22:39] <graingert> Burzmali: edit the .desktops of the appz
[22:39] <Ivoz> Burzmali: ubuntu design team didn't think letting people change location of the dock was a good idea
[22:39] <prophet> hello, i need help installing grub on a multiboot pc
[22:40] <Burzmali> graingert: I know, but why to right options?
[22:40] <Majere_Draven> Hmm puppy is superbly small
[22:40] <Burzmali> graingert: I know, but why no right click options?
[22:40] <lucas6534> hello
[22:40] <Burzmali> Ivoz: Bully for them, they don't like their firefox tabs on the right
[22:40] <lucas6534> i need help whit printf
[22:41] <urlin2u> prophet, what are the OS's  now?
[22:41] <lucas6534> hola
[22:41] <Burzmali> Ivoz: err left, causing Unity to pop up if I wander the mouse too far left
[22:42] <urlin2u> !grub | prophet
[22:42] <graingert> Burzmali: there are rightclick opts
[22:42] <syra> prophet if you have problems https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:42] <pdq> Burzmali, make and drag to launcher a custom.desktop launcher and add all the right click commands/launchers you want to it like in that link
[22:42] <syra> prophet i've cocked up my grub on several occasions, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair sorts it out for you
[22:42] <Burzmali> graingert: Launch and erase?
[22:42] <graingert> lucas6534: try #c
[22:42] <prophet> urlin2u, now i booted from an ubuntu usb drive, and installed on pc are osx, win7, linux (without grub). and i need to install it on / not on sda
[22:43] <R3db3ard> how do i send someone a file on xchat?
[22:43] <vjacob> hi. what's a good channel to ask about current laptop / netbook / tablet book that would be compatible with Ubuntu?
[22:43] <lucas6534> someone can helpme whit program in c?
[22:43] <lucas6534> i need help whit printf
[22:43] <graingert> lucas6534: try #c
[22:43] <bazhang> lucas6534: try #c
[22:43] <Burzmali> pdq: I wouldn't have a problem with that if I could drag the things onto the desktop and not fiddle with the terminal or nautilus
[22:44] <urlin2u> prophet, why root, the files should already be there, you trying to use easybcd?
[22:44] <graingert> lucas6534: well it's actually ##c
[22:44] <graingert> but try it
[22:44] <SilfenX> my executable file relies on a shared library. I guess that should go in the /usr/local/lib/ path then?
[22:44] <urlin2u> prophet, ah I just saw the osx in it a mac or a pc?
[22:44] <syra> and not c#
[22:44] <prophet> syra, thanks
[22:44] <CarlFK> zykotick9: ~/.profile # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then     PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"
[22:44] <syra> prophet that will fix it
[22:44] <l0p3n> R3db3ard: try #xchat
[22:44] <graingert> you'd want #c# for c#
[22:44] <prophet> urlin2u, in a pc
[22:44] <syra> lol
[22:45] <pdq> Burzmali,  you can't put or click items on desktop? i've been using unity and gnome-shell for long time i forget default install
[22:45] <syra> thats c for ya
[22:45] <urlin2u> prophet, what boot loader are you using to pickup everything?
[22:45] <lucas6534> i need help whit printf
[22:45] <lucas6534> somebody can help me?
[22:45] <zykotick9> CarlFK, yup thanks (i must be blind)
[22:45] <bazhang> lucas6534, not the place for it
[22:45] <Burzmali> pdq: I can't drag them off the launch bar to edit them as .desktop objects
[22:45] <graingert> !patience | lucas6534
[22:45] <graingert> hmm
[22:45] <prophet> urlin2u, now i use chameleon and i'd like to stick with it since i don't have to do any more stuff
[22:46] <lucas6534> ok, sorry for this
[22:46] <CarlFK> zykotick9: meh   I was off in /etc the whole time
[22:46] <graingert> not really the best ubottu
[22:46] <pdq> Burzmali, you can create and edit em in /home/$HOME/.local/share/applications if thats too much work there is also a gui someones made posted at the regular sites
[22:47] <Burzmali> pdq: That kind of a "why wouldn't I just use Gnome-shell" situation...
[22:47] <urlin2u> prophet, never used chameleon, so it does not see the standard grub 2 files in the root already, you might try a forum that is specifiuc in this area, besides this channel I'm not sure about putting the grub stuff that goes to the mbr will fix this are you?
[22:48] <pdq> Burzmali, personally i've moved to gnome-shell and love it, i'm hoping next ubuntu version makes unity more useable by default :)
[22:48] <prophet> urlin2u, i don't know how to tell grub to install on the right partition, that's all
[22:48] <Burzmali> pdq: Word, maybe I'll dig up a gnome shell 3 ppa or something
[22:48] <prophet> once installed i guess it will work
[22:49] <vjacob> hiya. what's a good recent netbook / laptop / tablet that is runs Ubuntu well, is not too expensive, has decent battery and would be good for compiling?
[22:50] <pdq> Burzmali, cool, have fun (not being sarcastic :P)
[22:50] <prophet> urlin2u, the partition is mounted but when i type df, i donno which is which
[22:50] <osse> The size of the clang executable is roughly 9M. Does anyone have an idea why it becomes several hundred megs when I compile it myself?
[22:50] <wh1zz0> Hi guys.. Please can anyone recommend a good tool/application in ubuntu which I can install to help me store my "to do list" as well as keep track of assignments. Maybe something which would give me a pop up reminder saying "you have xyz job to do" ?
[22:51] <Burzmali> pdq: I just feel like I might have been missing something, tons of man-hours have been poured into Unity and I feel kind of jerkish for dismissing it as crap in a day and a half
[22:52] <brontosaurusrex> Burzmali, then run it for another week :p
[22:52] <w30> vjacob, you can't have it all pick 3 of the 4 *smile*. I suggest skip the "cheap" check mark.
[22:52] <vjacob> w30: I meant either or
[22:52] <ICM^> Hi guys. Setting up my printer under Ubuntu Server -- there are lots of choices for printer drivers, and I really don't know which one to choose:  -CUPS+Gutenprint, CUPS+Gutenprint (Simplified), Foomatic/lj4dith, Foomatic/lj5gray, Foomatic/ljet4, Foomatic/Postscript, Foomatic/pxlmono, hpijs pcl3, or Postcript -- it's a B&W HP Laserjet printer, and I will want greyscale and chinese characters, so I'm not sure which one is best
[22:53] <w30> vjacob, heh
[22:53] <vjacob> w30: !cheap check more: Why?
[22:53] <R3db3ard> here's the mail it never fails it makes me wanna wag my tail and when it comes i wanna wail MAAIIILL!!
[22:54] <w30> vjacob, I suppose if you shop right you can do good.
[22:55] <pdq> Burzmali, if you try really hard can find a few ways to customize it for my/your liking but for me, until i can move it, handles multiple instances of apps and can max/unmax/min/unmin from the launcher it isn't useable for me and i just set it to 'hide always' and use AWN+dockbarx :)
[22:55] <vjacob> w30: sure, that is generally a requirement (to do good)
[22:55] <vjacob> w30: just curious why u suggested to skip cheap
[22:55] <SilfenX> is there a way to execute a maneouver in the gnome shell that requires root , just as the windows equivalent 'run as admin' context menu option?
[22:55] <pdq> but i have hope in 12.04 it be ready :]
[22:55] <urlin2u> prophet, gparted or another partitioner will identify the partitions, yiou don't say from where your mounting the partition, we know it is not windows hehe.
[22:55] <oktexan> ICM^, what model is it exactly?
[22:56] <ICM^> oktexan HP Laserjet 2300N
[22:56] <ICM^> connected via USB
[22:56] <reisio> SilfenX: gksu, IIRC
[22:56]  * wh1zz0 Hi guys.. I currently use ubuntu natty.. Please can anyone recommend a good tool/application in ubuntu which I can install to help me store my "to do list" as well as keep track of assignments. Maybe something which would give me a pop up reminder saying "you have xyz job to do" ? 
[22:57] <prophet> urlin2u, i'm on a linux booted from an usb drive right now
[22:57] <reisio> wh1zz0: you could use thunderbird, I think
[22:57] <reisio> wh1zz0: might need an extension
[22:57] <reisio> I know Evolution does this
[22:57] <w30> vjacob, I have watched the cheap computer deals on TV's Home Shopping Network and they always skip something hoping you won't notice.
[22:57] <ICM^> reisio wh1zz0 that's my thought.. though I think something like Sunbird does it too
[22:57] <oktexan> ICM^, i think it's hpijs
[22:58] <reisio> ICM^: yes I would assume so
[22:58] <reisio> there are lots of little apps, though
[22:58] <ICM^> oktexan okie dokie. I was just wondering if any are any better than any others, really
[22:58] <urlin2u> prophet, look here the grub2 wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Upgrading  Honerstly I would go to the XXXXXtosh forum they will know this stuf I don't think this wiki has the answer.
[22:58] <wh1zz0> ICM^: , reisio, Well yeah I though about thunderbird which I already have but the problem is that I want something which does this independently, thunderbird is a bit heavy
[22:59] <oktexan> ICM^ sorry not an expert on it but i believe that's the driver released by hp for that series
[22:59] <wh1zz0> Any other ideas please?
[22:59] <reisio> wh1zz0: you should really just look through the package manager, there are tons of apps for this task
[22:59] <ICM^> oktexan okay. that should be best then. Thanks :)
[23:00] <wh1zz0> ICM^: okie thanks, was just wondering if anyone has a suggestion based on one which he/she uses
[23:00] <reisio> wh1zz0: to name just a few: http://alternativeto.net/software/remember-the-milk/?platform=linux
[23:00] <prophet> urlin2u, the mac part is ok
[23:00] <reisio> eh, I use a text file :p
[23:00] <ICM^> wh1zz0 i just use Google Calendar, no app, so best of luck
[23:01] <reisio> my problem is getting my mind to forget things, not the other way around :p
[23:01] <w30> vjacob, knowing what Brand of items to avoid in a computer is probably more important. Broadcom wireless is a pain for instance.
[23:01] <prophet> urlin2u, i get this error while grub-install /dev/sdb4 Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[23:01] <prophet> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[23:01] <WaltherFI> wh1zz0: check wunderlist
[23:01] <wh1zz0> ICM^: Okie thanks.. I'll check
[23:01] <wh1zz0> WaltherFI: Really? Let me see
[23:01] <SilfenX> apprantly I have gksu installed - how is it invoked in the shell? supposed to be the contect menu?
[23:01] <somnoliento> wh1zz0, http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-excellent-todo-list-apps-for-linux-that-you-might-not-have-heard-of/
[23:03] <SilfenX> reision: I am running ubuntu server with a gnome-core/vnc vritual desktop so I dont have have the full gnome desktop
[23:03] <reisio> from a shell you can just sudo
[23:04]  * wh1zz0 Also, my second question: I have noticed that since I started using natty, each time I open the ubuntu software center/manager and click on "more info" to see details about a selected application, I am unable to see the reviews. All it shows me is "checking for reviews" and even though it tells me that I there are 250 reviews for this app and I wait and wait and wait, no reviews come up.. How can I sold this?
[23:04] <w30> vjacob, check out http://www.linux-drivers.org
[23:04]  * wh1zz0 meant how can I solve this.
[23:04] <reisio> wh1zz0: I'll take my foot off your tubes
[23:05] <choclaudio> Hi ppl! Not sure if this is the right channel for this, but I have a question regarding the Quickly work flow.
[23:05] <urlin2u> prophet, here is a ubuntu forum link the poster mierfra is one of the best in this area as far as knowledge out side of the builders, might be some clues there. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1339771
[23:05] <yagoo> choclaudio, u should go to their project site.. this is the wrong channel
[23:06] <yagoo> oh this http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/quickly-workflow/ ?
[23:06] <yagoo> sounded like a miscellaenous application name i hear time to time
[23:06] <cloudgeek> by all of you , thnax for helping me ! already midnight passed away morning comes so now need to get in bed bye to all
[23:06] <choclaudio> yagoo, yes, that :)
[23:06] <SilfenX> reisio: for example if I were to move a file using the file manager on the desktop to a directory that has root as owner - I select copy the navigate to folder where I want the file copied to, right click and select paste adn it wont let me
[23:06] <prophet> urlin2u, thanks
[23:07] <yagoo> choclaudio, that's interesting thanks.. btw have u looked into gambas2 ?
[23:07] <urlin2u> prophet, this command your using is from the running OS or chrooted in as well grub-install /dev/sdb4
[23:07] <reisio> SilfenX: yeah you'd expect a pw prompt
[23:07] <savagenights> is anyone here familiar with getting a linux netboot set up? i've been following a couple different guides, however there are issues always coming up with it working
[23:07] <SilfenX> reisio: I get none
[23:08] <yagoo> choclaudio, that reminds mean of studio64 from novell..
[23:08] <Hoppipolla> Helllo I am a big problem with Flash Player 11 X64, downlaoded .so file from adobe website, and after adding it to google chrome or any other browser all I get is Crappy lags, like sound is 2s behing the video, and video seems laggy and so on, using ATI video card, on ubuntu oneiric
[23:08] <choclaudio> yagoo The idea is that Ubuntu is trying to create a workflow for application developers to use. Only problem is that the Quickly scripts create a skeleton application that throws gtk-warnings by default :). I have played a bit with Gambas, but never more than playing around.
[23:09] <yagoo> Hoppipolla, u probably have to check if you're using opengl/graphic accel or something
[23:09] <pdq> SilfenX, you can install nautilus-gksu if you use nautilus as your file manager
[23:09] <Hoppipolla> yagoo: How to check ?
[23:09] <yagoo> Hoppipolla, you can check /var/log/Xorg.0.log .. see if opengl is being used or GLX is being loaded..
[23:10] <SilfenX> pdq: I use the default file manager - dont know what it s called, but I just click the places menu item and select computer from there and a window pops up ... ?
[23:10] <robin0800> pdq does that work in 11.10 now?
[23:10] <yagoo> Hoppipolla, also the xdpyinfo command may say or xrandr
[23:11] <SilfenX> pdq: oh right, that IS Nautilius - looking at the Help > About menu ^^
[23:11] <pdq> robin0800, works good here but i upgraded and i can't recall if i had to fix anything. try it out and let us know :)
[23:11] <yagoo> Hoppipolla, well if its rad.. then i guess the warnings are not to worry about..
[23:11] <joao> which swiss tool to rename files ahhhh...
[23:11] <vjacob> w30: thanks. i was so far looking at asus eee tablet TF101, asus eee pc 1215, lenovo x121, dell 14z, dell 14...
[23:11] <yagoo> Hoppipolla, it's not like you have to use inline assembly routines :)
[23:11] <brontosaurusrex> joao, thunar
[23:11] <joao> I mean batch rename, need to reverse the order of the numbers in the file name
[23:12] <Hoppipolla> yagoo: output for xdpyinfo is too big
[23:12] <M4d3L> aaaa! I need help! my dog unplug my pc and now when I boot I got "error no such device" and I have "grub rescue>"
[23:12] <SilfenX> wonder why not nautilus-gksu is installed as default when Nautilus seem to be the file manager default? :P
[23:12] <M4d3L> what I do :(
[23:12] <joao> good if that work because I love XFCE : using it
[23:12] <pdq> joao, i've always used gwenrename
[23:13] <yagoo> M4d3L, why not put your dog on a leash?
[23:14] <M4d3L> that will not make my pc boot again :P
[23:14] <joao> brontosaurusrex,  need moa powar
[23:14] <yagoo> M4d3L, i think you're trolling
[23:14]  * yagoo thinks anyone who blames their PC on their pets must be trolling
[23:14] <yagoo> lol
[23:14] <yagoo> pff
[23:14] <joao> pdq: installing and will spin, tx
[23:15] <M4d3L> I dont troll. she put his head to sleep on the power bar. on the on/off button.
[23:15] <joao> brontosaurusrex,  but tx anyway
[23:15] <yagoo> cute
[23:15] <yagoo> carry on now kiddie
[23:15] <savagenights> is anyone here familiar with getting a linux netboot set up? i've been following a couple different guides, however there are issues always coming up with it working
[23:15] <pdq> SilfenX, ya hehe, let us know if it works
[23:16] <joao> savagenights, using netbook eeepc 1000h for about 3 years
[23:16] <M4d3L> its not funny. I have work to finish for my job before end of the day
[23:16] <joao> or 2 1/2, don't remember , I am old already
[23:16] <joao> ;)
[23:16] <savagenights> not a netbook, but a netboot to install linux over a network
[23:16] <yagoo> M4d3L, i have a dinosaur in my backyard.. and he bit the powerline.. good thing i bought a UPS the day before..
[23:16] <savagenights> the laptop i want it on has a faulty winxp OS and cant boot from disc without massive read errors
[23:16] <joao> ahhh..told you that I am old...
[23:17] <joao> did that a few times though
[23:17] <WaltherFI> !ot
[23:17] <zivester> can someone explain how I can get a command to run on bootup, but before login?  I want to start some headless virtualbox images without having to log in to the session
[23:18] <yagoo> choclaudio, if you want more finesse you may want to look at wxwidgets-- i believe there's py-widget bindings as well
[23:18] <jrib> zivester: use @reboot specification in your user's crontab
[23:18] <joao> savagenights, and you of course don't have that usb or SD disk with the relevant slot in the said laptop,
[23:18] <yagoo> (py-wxwidgets or something)
[23:18] <joao> just checking
[23:18] <wh1zz0> Okidoki, I guess I'd just settle with GTG: http://taskcoach.org/screenshots/Linux/0.71.2-Ubuntu-Tasks_categories_and_effort.png
[23:18] <savagenights> BIOS doesnt support usb booting (if it does i cant tell) and it doesnt have a floppy drive to boot that way
[23:19] <noodlr> hello
[23:19] <joao> pdq: dang..I just hit enter and I think I am pulling the whole ubuntu repo down the line
[23:19] <M4d3L> yagoo:  I dont want to be impolite but STFU plz! I need real help! its an emergency.
[23:19] <wh1zz0> With task coach or GTG: http://gtg.fritalk.com/public/Screenshots/0.2/gtg-0.2-all-shad.png I meant
[23:19] <joao> kde and everything
[23:19] <brontosaurusrex> joao, can you give me before / after example? 01file, 02file, 03file to 03file, 02file, 01file or something?
[23:19] <noodlr> anyone experience a weird issue with NameBased VirtualHosts and Opera web browser on ubuntu?
[23:20] <yagoo> M4d3L, well u dont come on here to tell us that your dog has anything to do with it. Because I don't believe you. We get garbage cases like this time to time. Sorry. But i don't trust you.
[23:20] <joao> brontosaurusrex, the porpuse is this, my daughter wants to do the rewind special video effect
[23:20] <M4d3L> yogoo…. do you have dog?
[23:20] <joao> I used openshot video editor to extract image sequence to a folder
[23:21] <joao> ended up with
[23:21] <pdq> joao, lol oops i forgot yep is kde app, i also use kdenlive video editor app so i have kde packages :P install synaptic package manager and use that to install apps from so can see whats gonna be installed :)
[23:21] <noodlr> I have a domain set up that works on all other browsers as http://mysite.dev and http://www.mysite.dev, yet on Opera, only http://www.mysite.dev works, the other one ends up with my isp running a search for (and failing to find) the url.
[23:21] <wh1zz0>   WaltherFI: Ahhh.. wunderlist is awesome.. :D thanks
[23:21] <brontosaurusrex> joao, and openshot doesnt have a reverse-speed effect?
[23:21] <joao> vid2_numberhere.png
[23:21] <noodlr> This happens even though I have the /etc/hosts file configured to point any such urls towards the localhost
[23:21] <M4d3L> my dog alway sleep on my feet. powerbar is normally protected but I change my video card yesterday and forgot to move my powerbar where it is normaly.
[23:22] <noodlr> I can't understand why this is happening.
[23:22] <joao> brontosaurusrex, I have been looking for that and can't find it so I was doing that manually..
[23:22] <joao> pdq, does kdnlive has a reverse-speed effect???
[23:22] <WaltherFI> wh1zz0: no problem, i recommen checking omg! ubuntu regularly ;)
[23:22] <joao> I can't find a video editor in lunux with that effect
[23:22] <robin0800> pdq, no just doesn't appear in the context menu
[23:23] <SilfenX> HA! It bloody well works now! Thanks for helping out all! \o/
[23:23] <brontosaurusrex> joan, this http://www.openshotvideo.com/2009/07/slow-it-down-no-wait-speed-it-up.html not working?
[23:23] <pdq> robin0800, you try killall nautilus?
[23:23] <brontosaurusrex> i mean joao
[23:23] <wh1zz0> WaltherFI: Okie.. I'll follow them on twitter
[23:23] <robin0800> pdq, I rebooted
[23:23] <haylo-bot_> i put sauerbraten deb files on dvd then installed then put them into the deb package installer. but in the end i still had to use spt-get, could anyone tell me why i might be having a hard time installing the deb files with out apt-get?
[23:23] <pdq> ahh hmm
[23:23] <yagoo> Hoppipolla, xdpyinfo |less (pgup/pgdown-- go to first or second page-- it should say GLX as an extension)
[23:24] <joao> brontosaurusrex, np, wife didn't know too ;)
[23:25] <robin0800> haylo-bot_, try gdebi
[23:25] <joao> brontosaurusrex, dang!!!! I should have red the instructions!!!!!
[23:25] <joao> that might do the trick >>>
[23:25] <joao> can't believe it...
[23:25] <pdq> robin0800, doesn't appear when right click a folder in nautilus?
[23:26] <yagoo> brontosaurusrex, joao, you guys know a good site i can checkout for linux compliant cameras?
[23:26] <joao> well, I am lying..of course I can :) let me check it out
[23:26] <yagoo> (or rather camcorders)
[23:26] <yagoo> ^
[23:26] <robin0800> pdq, correct
[23:26] <brontosaurusrex> yagoo, what do you mean compliant?
[23:26] <yagoo> brontosaurusrex, i can plug the camcorder and it's functional under linux
[23:26] <joao> yagoo, what do you mean compliant? usb? firwire? I know little about professional editing
[23:27] <pdq> robin0800 and SilfenX , i had done this to get it to work http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11350597&postcount=2
[23:27] <joao> what i head is that openshot is pretty cool and my daughter loves it and I do too, just don't have time to play with it..
[23:28] <scribus12> how to get into grub menu on startup? what button to press?
[23:28] <andi5> hi... anyone having problems with oneiric emacs23 in tty  as well? it is completely unusable. thanks for any hint!
[23:28] <Alperen> is there anyway to install wordpress with postgresql?
[23:28] <mongy> scribus12: shift
[23:28] <yagoo> i dont have a cam i'd like to try some videoediting with ubuntu.. i guess its all dark territory for me hehehe.. i have to take risks sooner or later
[23:28] <Technicus> Does anyone know of a photobin that does not require setting up a profile?
[23:29] <hoppipolla> Using Flash Player X64 11 fromAdobes website. Ubuntu Oneiric X64 and ATI Video card, getting laggy flash player, and sound behind video :(
[23:29] <yagoo> Alperen, i'm sure wordpress's install scripts can do that-- maybe it comes with sql text files to create the default wordpress database
[23:30] <scribus12> mongy: lol. thanks. worked
[23:30] <yagoo> hoppipolla, well does it say GLX with xdpyinfo? (xdpyinfo |grep -i glx)
[23:30] <Alperen> yagoo, it cant connect to database
[23:30] <yagoo> Alperen, you need to know how to setup a database..
[23:30] <yagoo> Alperen, did u check /usr/share/doc/<pacakgename> ?
[23:30] <brontosaurusrex> yagoo, with hd stuff is usually making video compliant for editing with some sort of transcoding, unless this is some sort of pro camcorder that can record in some sort of short-GOP format, uf but still i wouldnt do any video editing with openshot or kdenlive, unless they would force me ...
[23:30] <hoppipolla> yagoo: It says GLX and SGI-GLX
[23:30] <linelevel> Hi guys. Earlier, I was able to get my NTFS partition to automatically mount at startup by editing my /etc/fstab. However, while the mount works, I still can't see the file system in Nautilus or on my desktop. Can anyone help me with this? The relevant line from my current /etc/fstab is here: http://pastebin.com/jdD2Mi4E
[23:30] <yagoo> Alperen, or dpkg -L <wordpress?>
[23:31] <yagoo> hoppipolla, that's good news..
[23:31] <robin0800> pdq, why the hell has that not been fixed?
[23:31] <Alperen> yagoo, ok let me check
[23:31] <brontosaurusrex> yagoo, but iam actually a pro video editor, so iam biased.
[23:31] <hoppipolla> yagoo: And what about bad news ?
[23:32] <yagoo> hoppipolla, try this-> apt-get install mesa-utils.. then as normal user -> glxgears <enter>
[23:32] <pdq> robin0800, i dunno :P
[23:32] <Alperen> brontosaurusrex, you do amv? :)
[23:32] <yagoo> hoppipolla, see if that gear animation plays smoothly.. if it doesn't.. then there's something wrong..
[23:32] <Sinode> Bonsoir
[23:32] <hoppipolla> yagoo: Seems to play really smooth :)
[23:33] <yagoo> hoppipolla, that's godo
[23:33] <yagoo> good :)
[23:33] <yagoo> hoppipolla, um.. it's probably something which i'm afraid to go into.. quite a few directions.. i'm betting it's the flash plugin
[23:34] <yagoo> hoppipolla, did u try google chrome ?
[23:34] <yagoo> hoppipolla, it's supposed to have flash builtin
[23:34] <brontosaurusrex> Alperen, whats amv?
[23:34] <hoppipolla> yagoo: Using Google Chrome, but it doesn't have a built in flash player anymore, so i downloades libflashplayer.so from adobe website, and put it into /opt/google/chrome/plugins/
[23:34] <qmanjr5> I mounted an ISO and need to use WINE on an .exe in it. How do I find out the path to the mounted ISO?
[23:34] <Alperen> brontosaurusrex, anime music videos
[23:34] <joao> brontosaurusrex, yep, that did the trick! tx
[23:35] <yagoo> hoppipolla, did u try getting a 32-bit webbrowser working with 32bit flash?
[23:35] <CarlFK> qmanjr5: mount it with right click, mount?
[23:35] <qmanjr5> Yeah
[23:35] <brontosaurusrex> Alperen, nope, i dont even understand the anime
[23:35] <qmanjr5> It's mounted like that
[23:35] <Alperen> brontosaurusrex, ok :D
[23:35] <hoppipolla> yagoo: What's point of getting 32bit software on Ubuntu X64 ?
[23:36] <yagoo> hoppipolla, well if that's your only way to get smooth flash.. just a thought..
[23:36] <yagoo> hoppipolla, as i said i'm afraid to get into directions.. it may even be your driver..
[23:36] <CarlFK> qmanjr5: i think it should show up on the left panel in natalus - but I don't have one to try with
[23:36] <slackjusty> @qmanjr5 just run mount no extra commands.
[23:36] <yagoo> hoppipolla, but your video driver shows everything normal..
[23:36] <yagoo> hoppipolla, is the audio croppy btw? (pulseaudio should be installed)
[23:36] <qmanjr5> I've already mounted it....I need the path to a file in the iso so I can use wine on it...
[23:36] <zykotick9> qmanjr5, see if you see it with "mount" (i doubt you will).  use the cli method to mount the iso "properly" - /msg ubottu iso
[23:37] <Akiyama-san> hello, i am using ubuntu 11.10. Recently i have activated the option to login without password, and now i cant get the login screen to ask the password again. How can i do it?
[23:37] <CarlFK> slackjusty: don't you love trying to help people who are smarter than you?
[23:37] <eigar> Hi. I have made a virtual host for ~/public_html , ran >sudo a2ensite , ran >sudo a2enmod userdir , ran >sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart , but I still get "Forbidden\n You don't have permission to acces / on this server". Any hints?
[23:37] <hoppipolla> yagoo: Don't know what means word "Croppy" but as I said video is a second or two lagging for the video :)
[23:37] <slackjusty> @qmanjr5 if you run mount with no extra parameters you'll see what mountpoints exist.
[23:38] <qmanjr5> I'm not seeing the iso when I type mount...odd
[23:38] <zykotick9> slackjusty, actually, i bet they won't (but could be wrong)
[23:38] <atlas__> terminal irc clients: is irssi the best choice?
[23:38] <zykotick9> !iso | qmanjr5
[23:39] <atlas__> anyone?
[23:39] <yagoo> hoppipolla, what did u use? apt-get install flashplugin-installer ?
[23:39] <joan> atlas__: imho it does.
[23:39] <zykotick9> atlas__, best is subjective
[23:39] <linelevel> [Bump] Hi guys. Earlier, I was able to get my NTFS partition to automatically mount at startup by editing my /etc/fstab. However, while the mount works, I still can't see the file system in Nautilus or on my desktop. Can anyone help me with this? The relevant line from my current /etc/fstab is here: http://pastebin.com/jdD2Mi4E
[23:40] <eigar> atlas__: Have mostly used irssi. Find it good. Havent had use to test others
[23:40] <qmanjr5> mount: can't find /home/quentin/Downloads/borderlands/borderlands.iso in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[23:40] <CodeWar> On 11.10 how do I change the default application launcher for an extension
[23:40] <zykotick9> linelevel, browse to /mnt/Bohr
[23:40] <hoppipolla> yagoo No, as I Said i downloaded file from adobe website
[23:40] <riveram> how do i start a new workspace and change between them?
[23:40] <yagoo> linelevel, well the latest 11.10 ubuntu-- u dont need an entry for ntfs-- the mountvolumes would be mounted with the help of gnome/dbus
[23:40] <qmanjr5> What is the <mountpoint> I should be putting?
[23:41] <zykotick9> qmanjr5, you can use /mnt temporarily
[23:41] <yagoo> hoppipolla, try removing that file/move it someplace else-- then try that apt-get command i gave ya
[23:41] <qmanjr5> so the files inside the iso are in /mnt?
[23:41] <linelevel> zykotick9: Is there any way to make it appear as a separate drive in Nautilus, the way it would before I put it in /etc/fstab?
[23:41] <zykotick9> linelevel, i don't think so
[23:41] <saxmus> moin
[23:42] <yagoo> linelevel, this 11.10? cuse it works out of the box that way
[23:42] <linelevel> yagoo: No, 10.10 actually.
[23:42] <yagoo> ah
[23:42] <eigar> Both http://localhost/~username and http://virtual.domain/ gives "Forbidden" - if it somehow should have anything to say
[23:42] <zykotick9> linelevel, if you want nautilus to manage it, you'd have to remove the fstab line
[23:42] <linelevel> zykotick9: Okay. I'll just add a shortcut to the side panel. Same difference. Thanks for the help.
[23:43] <yagoo> linelevel, best solution homework.. is seeing if dbus .fdi rules can fix that.. gnome nautilus uses dbus
[23:43] <linelevel> zykotick9: Well, I would want nautilus to manage it, but only if I could get nautilus to auto-mount it at startup.
[23:43] <zykotick9> linelevel, then you need fstab ;)
[23:44] <linelevel> yagoo: Thanks for the suggestion. I'll probably just wait to upgrade to 11.10 at some point and hope that fixes it.
[23:44] <picapiedra> hay al gun español
[23:44] <yagoo> linelevel, but it should work with fstab.. u have ntfs-3g installed?
[23:44] <zykotick9> !es | picapiedra
[23:45] <picapiedra> ok gracias
[23:45] <yagoo> linelevel, also be sure ntfs is modprobed-- (modprobe ntfs) -- i believe in ubuntu this is ntfs-3g module
[23:45] <CodeWar> OMG .. Alt-TAB is completely broken on 11.10 .. !!
[23:45] <Technicus> I am having major problems with xorg.conf, here are some details of what I have been working with: < http://pastie.org/2780557 >.
[23:46] <WaltherFI> CodeWar: it just lags
[23:46] <WaltherFI> on slower comps
[23:46] <CodeWar> WaltherFI, it doesn't respect separate workspaces ... cycles through all apps
[23:46] <ejv> question, what problems will I encounter trying to move data in an array (initialized and processed via the motherboard 'fake' raid) to a new mobo with a different type controller
[23:46] <linelevel> yagoo: Should there be output? `sudo modprobe ntfs` gives no errors nor other output.
[23:46] <WaltherFI> CodeWar: i think you can change that setting
[23:46] <zacarias> maybe this is a silly question: is there a place where you can suggest developpers to create a certain software?
[23:47] <WaltherFI> zacarias: ubuntu brainstorm
[23:47] <ejv> zacarias: development mailing lists, ubuntu brainstorm, and launchpad are places to go to start a conversation like that
[23:48] <Technicus> After initating: "sudo Xorg -configure", and replacing the etc/X11/xorg.conf with the newely generated file and restarting X, the screen is inverted and backwards.  How can I cure this?
[23:48] <ejv> zacarias: the culture of open source development is such that, nobody will *do* the work for you; if you show initiative, write your own code, and work hard, you CAN make things happen
[23:49] <hexacode> hey you guys. does cron savve entries past a reboot? i used crontab -e then i rebooted myserver and got kicked out by my firewall...i set up a backup cron but then i reboot so im not sure now if it will fire
[23:50] <hoppipolla> yagoo: Same problem :)
[23:50] <CarlFK> hexacode: it saves them.
[23:51] <CarlFK> hexacode did you ever verify the cron job worked?
[23:51] <Aleo> on System Settings window on Ubuntu 11.10 anyone have the icon for Launcher and Menus ?
[23:51] <syra> lol
[23:52] <syra> hi
[23:52] <jalal> hey guys
[23:52] <jalal> how are you all
[23:52] <Aleo> hi
[23:52] <jalal> i m here with a problem
[23:52] <yagoo> Aleo, they not there.. i believe u want classic-->apt-get install gnome-shell gnome-session-fallback
[23:52] <jalal> my last hope
[23:52] <syra> so after live booting to 11.10 i realize my graphics card cannot handle my ideal resolution of 2304 x 1024, so how can revert in the live boot mode to a 2d desktop ?
[23:53] <jalal> i have problem with my wireless card
[23:53] <jalal> any expert can give me solution
[23:53] <yagoo> jalal, how do u know its the wifi card?
[23:53] <yagoo> !wifi
[23:53] <syra> or better yet, convice my graphics card to have the resolution.
[23:53] <jalal> i have broadcom adapter
[23:53] <jalal> 4313
[23:53] <syra> thats all :p
[23:53] <jalal> ubuntu 10.04
[23:54] <Aleo> yagoo, ah, I have it, have to see if it is there, I asked because I saw a video and on system settings the guy have the icon for Launcher and Menus settings
[23:54] <syra> sorry, 2304x1024
[23:54] <jalal> any one have solution for this
[23:54] <yagoo> jalal, try apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[23:54] <zacarias> ejv: I now nothing about development, I could learn - I would like to -, but I don't have the time.
[23:54] <jalal> this command not working
[23:54] <randomusr> if I have two kernels available, could I install a different video driver for each?
[23:55] <yagoo> jalal, use it with sudo
[23:55] <jalal> i did brother
[23:55] <jalal> i install fcw cutter also
[23:55] <Romeyro> anyone know how to play League of Legends on ubuntu
[23:55] <yagoo> jalal, that's fine
[23:55] <Aleo> yagoo, but when Ĩ installed I only wrote apt-get install gnome-shell
[23:55] <jalal> jalal77@jalal77:~$ sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Couldn't find package firmware-b43-installer jalal77@jalal77:~$ ^C jalal77@jalal77:~$
[23:55] <Aleo> what does the gnome-session-fallback
[23:56] <jalal> not work
[23:56] <hexacode> CarlFK: yes i verified a working cron job. thanks
[23:56] <jalal> i have kernl 32
[23:56] <yagoo> jalal, see ->https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsBroadcom
[23:56] <syra> frak the faq :]
[23:56] <jalal> 2.xx.32
[23:56] <jalal> i try hard form 2 days
[23:56] <yagoo> (11.04 dont use channel 13)
[23:56] <jalal> i see evrything
[23:56] <jalal> but nothing working
[23:57] <yagoo> jalal, iwlist scan<enter> <works?
[23:57] <jalal> i saw this already
[23:57] <jalal> wait
[23:57] <jalal> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsBroadcom
[23:57] <jalal> yah give some out put
[23:57] <yagoo> Aleo, it may be gnome-fallback-session.. these two pacakges install gnome3 and gnome-classic
[23:58] <yagoo> jalal, so thats good.. ur wifi works at scanning
[23:58] <jalal> does not support scanning
[23:58] <wozz> wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction: trying to get a tightvncserver setup on an 11.10 install working.  i can connect, i get a terminal, but the top menu bar has only the clock/mail/network (no other menus), but no taskbar (or any way to launch anything once i close the terminal)
[23:58] <jalal> no brother
[23:58] <jalal> it said
[23:58] <jalal> does not support scanning
[23:58] <platzhirsch> How can I add my own program into the Unity Launcher?
[23:58] <Aleo> yagoo, ah fine, but I already have the option to log into Gnome and Gnome classic
[23:58] <yagoo> jalal, iwconfig shows a proper hwaddress: for your wifi?
[23:58] <Guest55050> ciao
[23:58] <platzhirsch> sjould I use alacarte for this?
[23:58] <Aleo> so I don't need that I guess
[23:59] <jalal> yah it showig lo then eth1 eth 0
[23:59] <ghostnik11> hi can someone help with me with how to install cdrtools b/c i can't get brasero or k3b to burn a cue image to a cd-r cd
[23:59] <jalal> my wireless work fine in backtrack
[23:59] <jalal> back trakc also ubuntu base
[23:59] <jalal> but now i have ubuntu