| knome | patiency and a bloated DE | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| * knome hides | 00:00 | |
| ochosi | knome: what is "patiency"? is that a variation of the game "patience"? | 00:01 |
| knome | lol | 00:01 |
| * knome kicks himself in the ankle | 00:01 | |
| knome | i really should sleep | 00:01 |
| knome | i even fixed our bed today!! | 00:01 |
| ochosi | yeah, same here | 00:01 |
| ochosi | just wanna finish something first | 00:01 |
| knome | hmm... suspicious | 00:02 |
| ochosi | hm? | 00:02 |
| knome | nvm :P | 00:02 |
| knome | heh | 00:02 |
| knome | he had enough :) | 00:02 |
| knome | http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Wulffmorgenthaler/~3/KBQ7RrFZ5NI/ | 00:02 |
| knome | !alis | Da_Coynul | 00:04 |
| ubottu | Da_Coynul: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* | 00:04 |
| knome | BAH | 00:04 |
| knome | Da_Coynul, sorry... :) | 00:05 |
| ochosi | knome: btw, re: funny comics: http://www.smbc-comics.com/ | 00:05 |
| Da_Coynul | no problem...sounds like u r tired | 00:05 |
| ochosi | today's quite funny in fact | 00:06 |
| knome | i am | 00:06 |
| knome | it's only 3am... | 00:06 |
| knome | heh, nice ochosi | 00:06 |
| Da_Coynul | wow...don't think I'll be up that late! | 00:07 |
| knome | heh :) | 00:07 |
| ochosi | knome: also, if SiDi shows up in the near future, feel free to forward him this one: http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2407#comic | 00:08 |
| knome | haha | 00:09 |
| knome | i can post that to him when i see him at MSN | 00:09 |
| ochosi | yup, good idea :) | 00:09 |
| GridCube | http://www.supermegacomics.com/images/16.gif | 00:17 |
| ochosi | heh | 00:18 |
| ochosi | nice one | 00:18 |
| Da_Coynul | nice | 00:19 |
| Da_Coynul | http://www.smbc-comics.com/?db=comics&id=1377#comic | 00:21 |
| ochosi | hehe | 00:21 |
| ochosi | the votee is also pretty nice in that one :) | 00:22 |
| knome | lol | 00:23 |
| knome | it's a comic | 00:23 |
| knome | reality check | 00:23 |
| knome | it's what, 3am and you say a girl in a comic is nice? | 00:23 |
| ochosi | nah, the "votee" is the red dot left underneath each comic | 00:23 |
| knome | yeah | 00:23 |
| ochosi | when you hover it with the mouse you get additional fun | 00:24 |
| knome | i think i misread two words. | 00:24 |
| ochosi | haha | 00:24 |
| ochosi | *two*? | 00:24 |
| knome | "votee" => "girl", "nice" => "cute" | 00:24 |
| ochosi | lol | 00:24 |
| ochosi | don't you think i'm falling for a red dot! | 00:24 |
| knome | http://wulffmorgenthaler.com/strip/2010/08/16/ | 00:24 |
| knome | :)) | 00:24 |
| ochosi | hehe | 00:25 |
| knome | http://wulffmorgenthaler.com/strip/2011/10/05/ | 00:25 |
| knome | that too is nice | 00:25 |
| knome | ;) | 00:25 |
| ochosi | yup, i like wulffmt in general i have to say | 00:26 |
| ochosi | anyway, i also gotta hit the sack | 00:26 |
| ochosi | see you soonish | 00:26 |
| knome | hehe | 00:26 |
| knome | yeah | 00:26 |
| Da_Coynul | good night | 00:26 |
| knome | i'm going to bed too | 00:26 |
| knome | see you! | 00:26 |
| ochosi | night everyone! | 00:26 |
| knome | nighty night! | 00:26 |
| pleia2 | knome: doing Disney before UDS so I'm not around much this week | 03:37 |
| madnick | knome: you there? | 08:40 |
| madnick | oh, i just read the backlogs about what you said, you said "this discussion should be at #xubuntu-devel", i read it as "xubuntu-devel" thus the ML .. oh well, now its there aswell :) | 08:49 |
| knome | madnick, now i am | 09:05 |
| knome | madnick, no no, it's a good thing you sent the mail | 09:06 |
| madnick | okay :P | 09:08 |
| knome | how is the ComputerSpecs table linked to the other tables? | 09:09 |
| madnick | Computer specs is linked to testperformed | 09:09 |
| knome | right | 09:09 |
| knome | i was thinking: | 09:09 |
| knome | add UserComputers | 09:09 |
| knome | and link those to user | 09:09 |
| knome | and make him able to select the computer used | 09:10 |
| knome | so he don't have to input the data again | 09:10 |
| knome | or is it already like this ;) | 09:10 |
| madnick | yes, it is linked ot userid | 09:10 |
| madnick | aswell | 09:10 |
| knome | good | 09:10 |
| madnick | knome: wanna see the acctual fields btw? | 09:12 |
| madnick | i didnt link them in the mail | 09:12 |
| madnick | because i figured its not that important | 09:12 |
| madnick | hehe | 09:12 |
| knome | yeah, i suppose it isn't | 09:12 |
| knome | how is the test schedule stored/calculated? | 09:12 |
| knome | or is it :P | 09:12 |
| madnick | Well, I was thinking of adding a table for urgent Testcases | 09:13 |
| madnick | or a field | 09:13 |
| knome | right, so it's the testcases | 09:13 |
| madnick | yes | 09:13 |
| knome | add two fields | 09:13 |
| knome | "testStart" | 09:13 |
| knome | "testEnd" | 09:13 |
| knome | date-fields | 09:13 |
| madnick | yeah | 09:14 |
| knome | testStart is when the test appears for users | 09:14 |
| knome | testEnd is when it is supposed to be done | 09:14 |
| knome | and those whose testEnd < time() == urgent | 09:14 |
| knome | you might want to create a table TestSchedule bte | 09:14 |
| knome | *btw | 09:14 |
| knome | with test id and the dates | 09:14 |
| knome | because you *really* don't want to add the data manually | 09:15 |
| madnick | indeed | 09:15 |
| madnick | knome: but.. is this gonna be a cycle on all tests | 09:17 |
| madnick | Or are we gonna have someone appointed to decide which tests | 09:17 |
| knome | hmm? | 09:17 |
| knome | why shouldn't it be a cycle on all tests | 09:17 |
| madnick | Well, I think that, sometimes it would be useful to really really test a certain case | 09:17 |
| knome | well of course you can manually add tests | 09:18 |
| madnick | if we had a manual flg | 09:18 |
| knome | and edit | 09:18 |
| madnick | yes | 09:18 |
| knome | what you could also have in the TestSchedule table is | 09:18 |
| knome | TestCycle id | 09:18 |
| knome | which would link all the tests in the same cycle | 09:18 |
| knome | that could be "pangolin-1" | 09:18 |
| knome | or | 09:18 |
| knome | "pangolin-after-desktop-image-brok-horribly" | 09:18 |
| knome | though | 09:20 |
| knome | when you create a new cycle | 09:20 |
| knome | you should either tell the system to take into account the tests already done in other cycle | 09:20 |
| knome | or ignore them | 09:20 |
| knome | say, you've done half of the test cycle | 09:21 |
| knome | and something breaks | 09:21 |
| knome | and you want to test the 64bit desktop iso more | 09:21 |
| madnick | yeah | 09:21 |
| knome | what should the system do | 09:21 |
| knome | or would subschedules be better | 09:21 |
| knome | "continue with 'pangolin', but also run 'pangolin-64bit-fail'" | 09:22 |
| madnick | I need a coffee before I think about this ;) | 09:22 |
| knome | heh, yeah | 09:22 |
| knome | i'm not the best DB architect there is either, but i know the stuff on some level | 09:22 |
| knome | and ideas behind a system that is feasible to manage ;) | 09:23 |
| madnick | :) i just hope we really get this done | 09:24 |
| madnick | Before the 1th Dec | 09:24 |
| madnick | Since I got 18 hour work days I think it will work out :P | 09:25 |
| knome | heh | 09:28 |
| ochosi | knome: btw, i started theming the gtk-calendar a bit today | 10:19 |
| ochosi | this is the result of a quick experiment: http://imagebin.org/181400 | 10:21 |
| ochosi | hope i can rework it some more so that it looks more like the indicator popups | 10:21 |
| knome | right'o | 10:23 |
| knome | need to go now | 10:23 |
| knome | see you later | 10:23 |
| ochosi | yup, see you | 10:24 |
| GridCube | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/883463 | 12:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 883463 in vlc (Ubuntu) "Firefox 7.0.1 crashes on Xubuntu 11.10 when trying to open audio stream using mozilla-plugin-vlc" [Undecided,New] | 12:53 |
| pleia2 | btw, I'm doing the xfce of the new "closing windows" section of FCM: http://dl.fullcirclemagazine.org/issue54_en.pdf | 13:17 |
| madnick | pleia2: what page? | 13:25 |
| pleia2 | 27 | 13:25 |
| madnick | thanks | 13:25 |
| knome | bah, dns stuff at server failing | 13:26 |
| knome | madnick, you there? | 13:26 |
| madnick | knome: yes | 13:26 |
| pleia2 | it's actually been a bit tricky to write, since I haven't used windows in years :\ | 13:26 |
| knome | okay | 13:26 |
| pleia2 | "foo is bar in linux" "err, what is foo?" | 13:27 |
| knome | i have a few problems with booting (mostly graphical) | 13:27 |
| madnick | plymouth? :o | 13:27 |
| knome | madnick, the plymouth screen is strecthed (i have a widescreen monitor), all the characters are a bit wider than they should | 13:28 |
| knome | yes, isn't that what we have before lightdm? | 13:28 |
| knome | madnick, is that issue addressable? | 13:28 |
| madnick | yes :P | 13:28 |
| madnick | yes it is | 13:28 |
| knome | okay, good | 13:28 |
| knome | the other issue is | 13:28 |
| madnick | but... aspect ratio scaling is not optimal | 13:28 |
| knome | when i get the "routine disk check" message, i don't get a message on how to cancel it | 13:29 |
| knome | however, i need to press C... | 13:29 |
| knome | ...and when i do the message says "keys:" | 13:29 |
| madnick | oh | 13:29 |
| knome | those are my little problems in booting | 13:29 |
| madnick | Well, i know the solution for all these problems | 13:29 |
| knome | great | 13:29 |
| knome | it would be great to get them out before the 12.04 release :) | 13:30 |
| madnick | But, why is this the first I hear of this :( Wasnt there alot of testing :P | 13:30 |
| knome | i think actually the logo in plymouth too is a bit stretched | 13:30 |
| knome | i can check that the next time when i boot | 13:30 |
| knome | i don't know. yeah, we probably ran out of time | 13:30 |
| knome | weird that nobody has said anything about this after the release though | 13:30 |
| knome | anyway, now you got the report :) | 13:30 |
| madnick | Just need to increase size of message place for more rows :P | 13:31 |
| madnick | And find a good scaling algo | 13:31 |
| knome | if you need to know anything else about these small bugs, feel free to ping me | 13:31 |
| madnick | btw knome | 13:31 |
| knome | yeah? | 13:31 |
| madnick | http://www.madnick.se/~madnick/greeter-draft1.png | 13:31 |
| knome | nice! :) | 13:31 |
| madnick | Like, super super super draft of a draft :P | 13:31 |
| madnick | its just working | 13:32 |
| knome | btw, we're probably changing the wallpaper for 12.04 | 13:32 |
| knome | though that shouldn't be a problem | 13:32 |
| madnick | nope, infact just do | 13:32 |
| knome | it should still be something that stays in the BG | 13:32 |
| knome | yeah | 13:32 |
| madnick | background: url () ;P | 13:32 |
| knome | it doesn't change any design decisions either :) | 13:32 |
| knome | yeah, i know | 13:32 |
| knome | but also we don't need to worry about transparency of items either | 13:32 |
| knome | or anything | 13:32 |
| knome | or the logo | 13:32 |
| madnick | oh okay | 13:33 |
| madnick | so you have a new bg in progress? | 13:33 |
| madnick | :D | 13:33 |
| knome | it will be just a replacement that works as the current :) | 13:33 |
| knome | not yet, but it will be something that fits in without too much hassle | 13:33 |
| knome | 1) because i like the blue tones 2) because i like wallpapers that stay in the background and 3) because i don't want to go through all the same hassle again, and you'll have more time for other things as well :) | 13:34 |
| madnick | :) | 13:34 |
| knome | (or 3b, you can have some time off too, if you want) | 13:34 |
| madnick | me without a computer :O | 13:35 |
| knome | lol, that's not what i said | 13:35 |
| knome | the break i'm taking from FOSS doesn't mean i'm wihtout a computer | 13:35 |
| knome | or without irc either | 13:35 |
| madnick | oh :P | 13:35 |
| knome | i'm just not hanging around the FOSS channels/networks :P | 13:36 |
| madnick | Btw, Im gonna wait before I implement the db, until I've gotten some response on the email, because i figure charlie atleast will have something to say about features | 13:37 |
| knome | yeah | 13:37 |
| knome | that's good thinking | 13:37 |
| knome | if you want more help with the db structure, you could ask either mr_pouit, #shimmer (with some developers) or even the #xfce-dev | 13:37 |
| madnick | :) | 13:38 |
| knome | i'm going to work on commercial stuff for a while, then eat dinner. i'll be back after those two | 13:40 |
| knome | see you! :) | 13:40 |
| madnick | cya | 13:40 |
| ochosi | madnick: nice work madnick | 13:42 |
| madnick | ochosi: thanks :P | 13:44 |
| GridCube | madnick, on your greeter, there is a way to allow onscreen keyboard? | 18:24 |
| GridCube | i've seen people whit tablets ask for this | 18:24 |
| Unit193 | Ah!! Greeter! | 18:26 |
| madnick | GridCube: yes, it works, but there is no window manager | 18:30 |
| GridCube | oh | 18:30 |
| GridCube | that makes sense | 18:30 |
| madnick | Which makes it unpleasent to work with onboard | 18:30 |
| madnick | Im concidering making a new one | 18:31 |
| GridCube | a new keyboard? | 18:31 |
| madnick | Nobody in #ubuntu-devel replies | 18:31 |
| knome | madnick, :P | 18:31 |
| GridCube | :P they migh be all on vacations | 18:31 |
| madnick | true | 18:32 |
| madnick | its the UDS | 18:32 |
| madnick | soon, or now, i dont nkow | 18:32 |
| madnick | :d | 18:32 |
| knome | starts on monday i suppose | 18:32 |
| madnick | ah, on halloween :P | 18:32 |
| GridCube | halloween | 18:35 |
| GridCube | :P | 18:35 |
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