[00:00] patiency and a bloated DE [00:00] * knome hides [00:01] knome: what is "patiency"? is that a variation of the game "patience"? [00:01] lol [00:01] * knome kicks himself in the ankle [00:01] i really should sleep [00:01] i even fixed our bed today!! [00:01] yeah, same here [00:01] just wanna finish something first [00:02] hmm... suspicious [00:02] hm? [00:02] nvm :P [00:02] heh [00:02] he had enough :) [00:02] http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Wulffmorgenthaler/~3/KBQ7RrFZ5NI/ [00:04] !alis | Da_Coynul [00:04] Da_Coynul: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* [00:04] BAH [00:05] Da_Coynul, sorry... :) [00:05] knome: btw, re: funny comics: http://www.smbc-comics.com/ [00:05] no problem...sounds like u r tired [00:06] today's quite funny in fact [00:06] i am [00:06] it's only 3am... [00:06] heh, nice ochosi [00:07] wow...don't think I'll be up that late! [00:07] heh :) [00:08] knome: also, if SiDi shows up in the near future, feel free to forward him this one: http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2407#comic [00:09] haha [00:09] i can post that to him when i see him at MSN [00:09] yup, good idea :) [00:17] http://www.supermegacomics.com/images/16.gif [00:18] heh [00:18] nice one [00:19] nice [00:21] http://www.smbc-comics.com/?db=comics&id=1377#comic [00:21] hehe [00:22] the votee is also pretty nice in that one :) [00:23] lol [00:23] it's a comic [00:23] reality check [00:23] it's what, 3am and you say a girl in a comic is nice? [00:23] nah, the "votee" is the red dot left underneath each comic [00:23] yeah [00:24] when you hover it with the mouse you get additional fun [00:24] i think i misread two words. [00:24] haha [00:24] *two*? [00:24] "votee" => "girl", "nice" => "cute" [00:24] lol [00:24] don't you think i'm falling for a red dot! [00:24] http://wulffmorgenthaler.com/strip/2010/08/16/ [00:24] :)) [00:25] hehe [00:25] http://wulffmorgenthaler.com/strip/2011/10/05/ [00:25] that too is nice [00:25] ;) [00:26] yup, i like wulffmt in general i have to say [00:26] anyway, i also gotta hit the sack [00:26] see you soonish [00:26] hehe [00:26] yeah [00:26] good night [00:26] i'm going to bed too [00:26] see you! [00:26] night everyone! [00:26] nighty night! [03:37] knome: doing Disney before UDS so I'm not around much this week [08:40] knome: you there? [08:49] oh, i just read the backlogs about what you said, you said "this discussion should be at #xubuntu-devel", i read it as "xubuntu-devel" thus the ML .. oh well, now its there aswell :) [09:05] madnick, now i am [09:06] madnick, no no, it's a good thing you sent the mail [09:08] okay :P [09:09] how is the ComputerSpecs table linked to the other tables? [09:09] Computer specs is linked to testperformed [09:09] right [09:09] i was thinking: [09:09] add UserComputers [09:09] and link those to user [09:10] and make him able to select the computer used [09:10] so he don't have to input the data again [09:10] or is it already like this ;) [09:10] yes, it is linked ot userid [09:10] aswell [09:10] good [09:12] knome: wanna see the acctual fields btw? [09:12] i didnt link them in the mail [09:12] because i figured its not that important [09:12] hehe [09:12] yeah, i suppose it isn't [09:12] how is the test schedule stored/calculated? [09:12] or is it :P [09:13] Well, I was thinking of adding a table for urgent Testcases [09:13] or a field [09:13] right, so it's the testcases [09:13] yes [09:13] add two fields [09:13] "testStart" [09:13] "testEnd" [09:13] date-fields [09:14] yeah [09:14] testStart is when the test appears for users [09:14] testEnd is when it is supposed to be done [09:14] and those whose testEnd < time() == urgent [09:14] you might want to create a table TestSchedule bte [09:14] *btw [09:14] with test id and the dates [09:15] because you *really* don't want to add the data manually [09:15] indeed [09:17] knome: but.. is this gonna be a cycle on all tests [09:17] Or are we gonna have someone appointed to decide which tests [09:17] hmm? [09:17] why shouldn't it be a cycle on all tests [09:17] Well, I think that, sometimes it would be useful to really really test a certain case [09:18] well of course you can manually add tests [09:18] if we had a manual flg [09:18] and edit [09:18] yes [09:18] what you could also have in the TestSchedule table is [09:18] TestCycle id [09:18] which would link all the tests in the same cycle [09:18] that could be "pangolin-1" [09:18] or [09:18] "pangolin-after-desktop-image-brok-horribly" [09:20] though [09:20] when you create a new cycle [09:20] you should either tell the system to take into account the tests already done in other cycle [09:20] or ignore them [09:21] say, you've done half of the test cycle [09:21] and something breaks [09:21] and you want to test the 64bit desktop iso more [09:21] yeah [09:21] what should the system do [09:21] or would subschedules be better [09:22] "continue with 'pangolin', but also run 'pangolin-64bit-fail'" [09:22] I need a coffee before I think about this ;) [09:22] heh, yeah [09:22] i'm not the best DB architect there is either, but i know the stuff on some level [09:23] and ideas behind a system that is feasible to manage ;) [09:24] :) i just hope we really get this done [09:24] Before the 1th Dec [09:25] Since I got 18 hour work days I think it will work out :P [09:28] heh [10:19] knome: btw, i started theming the gtk-calendar a bit today [10:21] this is the result of a quick experiment: http://imagebin.org/181400 [10:21] hope i can rework it some more so that it looks more like the indicator popups [10:23] right'o [10:23] need to go now [10:23] see you later [10:24] yup, see you [12:53] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/883463 [12:53] Launchpad bug 883463 in vlc (Ubuntu) "Firefox 7.0.1 crashes on Xubuntu 11.10 when trying to open audio stream using mozilla-plugin-vlc" [Undecided,New] [13:17] btw, I'm doing the xfce of the new "closing windows" section of FCM: http://dl.fullcirclemagazine.org/issue54_en.pdf [13:25] pleia2: what page? [13:25] 27 [13:25] thanks [13:26] bah, dns stuff at server failing [13:26] madnick, you there? [13:26] knome: yes [13:26] it's actually been a bit tricky to write, since I haven't used windows in years :\ [13:26] okay [13:27] "foo is bar in linux" "err, what is foo?" [13:27] i have a few problems with booting (mostly graphical) [13:27] plymouth? :o [13:28] madnick, the plymouth screen is strecthed (i have a widescreen monitor), all the characters are a bit wider than they should [13:28] yes, isn't that what we have before lightdm? [13:28] madnick, is that issue addressable? [13:28] yes :P [13:28] yes it is [13:28] okay, good [13:28] the other issue is [13:28] but... aspect ratio scaling is not optimal [13:29] when i get the "routine disk check" message, i don't get a message on how to cancel it [13:29] however, i need to press C... [13:29] ...and when i do the message says "keys:" [13:29] oh [13:29] those are my little problems in booting [13:29] Well, i know the solution for all these problems [13:29] great [13:30] it would be great to get them out before the 12.04 release :) [13:30] But, why is this the first I hear of this :( Wasnt there alot of testing :P [13:30] i think actually the logo in plymouth too is a bit stretched [13:30] i can check that the next time when i boot [13:30] i don't know. yeah, we probably ran out of time [13:30] weird that nobody has said anything about this after the release though [13:30] anyway, now you got the report :) [13:31] Just need to increase size of message place for more rows :P [13:31] And find a good scaling algo [13:31] if you need to know anything else about these small bugs, feel free to ping me [13:31] btw knome [13:31] yeah? [13:31] http://www.madnick.se/~madnick/greeter-draft1.png [13:31] nice! :) [13:31] Like, super super super draft of a draft :P [13:32] its just working [13:32] btw, we're probably changing the wallpaper for 12.04 [13:32] though that shouldn't be a problem [13:32] nope, infact just do [13:32] it should still be something that stays in the BG [13:32] yeah [13:32] background: url () ;P [13:32] it doesn't change any design decisions either :) [13:32] yeah, i know [13:32] but also we don't need to worry about transparency of items either [13:32] or anything [13:32] or the logo [13:33] oh okay [13:33] so you have a new bg in progress? [13:33] :D [13:33] it will be just a replacement that works as the current :) [13:33] not yet, but it will be something that fits in without too much hassle [13:34] 1) because i like the blue tones 2) because i like wallpapers that stay in the background and 3) because i don't want to go through all the same hassle again, and you'll have more time for other things as well :) [13:34] :) [13:34] (or 3b, you can have some time off too, if you want) [13:35] me without a computer :O [13:35] lol, that's not what i said [13:35] the break i'm taking from FOSS doesn't mean i'm wihtout a computer [13:35] or without irc either [13:35] oh :P [13:36] i'm just not hanging around the FOSS channels/networks :P [13:37] Btw, Im gonna wait before I implement the db, until I've gotten some response on the email, because i figure charlie atleast will have something to say about features [13:37] yeah [13:37] that's good thinking [13:37] if you want more help with the db structure, you could ask either mr_pouit, #shimmer (with some developers) or even the #xfce-dev [13:38] :) [13:40] i'm going to work on commercial stuff for a while, then eat dinner. i'll be back after those two [13:40] see you! :) [13:40] cya [13:42] madnick: nice work madnick [13:44] ochosi: thanks :P [18:24] madnick, on your greeter, there is a way to allow onscreen keyboard? [18:24] i've seen people whit tablets ask for this [18:26] Ah!! Greeter! [18:30] GridCube: yes, it works, but there is no window manager [18:30] oh [18:30] that makes sense [18:30] Which makes it unpleasent to work with onboard [18:31] Im concidering making a new one [18:31] a new keyboard? [18:31] Nobody in #ubuntu-devel replies [18:31] madnick, :P [18:31] :P they migh be all on vacations [18:32] true [18:32] its the UDS [18:32] soon, or now, i dont nkow [18:32] :d [18:32] starts on monday i suppose [18:32] ah, on halloween :P [18:35] halloween [18:35] :P