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Deceiver21 users hehe00:00
knomeyeah, that's about 15 more than a few monts ago...00:00
knome+h00:00
Deceivermust xubuntu users get help in #ubuntu anyways hehe00:00
drcEverytime I ask for a "xubuntu" list in xchat, it's never listed :(00:00
Deceivermost*00:00
knomedrc, hmm, weird.00:01
knome!alis | drc00:04
ubottudrc: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu*00:04
ScottEdrc, in the channel list query, at the bottom, is the min # of users for a channel more than the number of people here?00:10
drcScottE: Nope, that's not it (I already thought of that).00:11
ScottEOK, just checking...00:12
knomeif you refer to alis, it's probably a cached usercount00:13
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w30Anybody have emerald installed?03:05
w30Is there a Ubuntu version available anywhere?03:06
w30I want to change window my window border to something decent.03:07
w30even wvm or win95 look alike would be better than what the default is.03:08
* w30 using compiz03:09
holsteinw30: me too03:09
holsteini was wondering the same thing03:09
w30If I could find the configuration I could stick in different .pngs and name them the same *hack hack*03:11
holsteinit was taken out for sure03:11
holsteinhttp://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/32959003:11
* holstein reading about http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/get-emerald-to-work-in-ubuntu-1104.html03:14
holsteinw30: whaddaya think?03:21
holsteinhttps://launchpad.net/~malteworld/+archive/compiz03:21
holsteinits a natty repo03:21
holsteinppa*03:21
holsteinim not sure i would know how to change to it..03:22
w30Cards win series03:23
w30holstein, I think I will try to compile it.03:24
holsteini might just grab the .debs from http://ppa.launchpad.net/malteworld/compiz/ubuntu/pool/main/e/emerald/03:24
w30holstein, if you get it installed, I'll ask you when I see you in here in a couple of days :=)03:26
holsteinhehe03:26
well_laid_lawnwhy not just ask in #compiz what gets used now?03:26
w30well_laid_lawn, good idea,  /j #compiz03:27
holsteinw30: keep me posted03:28
holsteinim checking on these .debs...03:28
w30holstein, in ccsm in  the plugin window-decorator in the window that says /usr/bin/compiz-decorator edit it and put in emerald03:31
w30or /usr/bin/emerald03:32
w30simple I think03:32
holsteinfrom #compiz 23:32 < soreau> the official decorators are gtk-window-decorator and kde4-window-decorator03:34
well_laid_lawnprobably why emerald isn't available...03:35
holsteinyup03:35
holsteini was wondering... who knew... ask in #compiz ;) good suggestion well_laid_lawn03:35
well_laid_lawnthere's even a bot link for it03:36
well_laid_lawn!compiz03:36
ubottuCompiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz03:36
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holsteinw30: worked03:56
w30I could care less about emerald, the decorator themes, I just want a way to display a different window border. It seems you can't have gtk borders or kde borders.03:56
w30themes yes but borders no.03:57
holsteinwell, i gotz me a nice window border :)03:57
w30holstein, really, how?03:57
holsteinw30: with emerald03:58
well_laid_lawn!info gtk-window-decorator03:58
ubottuPackage gtk-window-decorator does not exist in oneiric03:58
w30oh, ok03:58
well_laid_lawnoh03:58
holsteinhttp://compiz-themes.org/content/show.php/WolfeEmerald?content=146131&PHPSESSID=569fd3c2c6bcf32f2cdac59f75c9051e03:58
holsteinhmmm... nasty... sorry03:58
holsteinw30: ^^ i installed that as a proof of concept03:59
holsteini have gtk-window-decorator03:59
w30holstein, so do I but the themes can't load their borders into compiz04:01
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holsteinw30: i have installed emerald from http://ppa.launchpad.net/malteworld/compiz/ubuntu/pool/main/e/emerald/ and added that theme, and i have those wolfe emerald window decorations04:02
w30holstein, you have to load an emerald window theme also, right?04:03
holsteinAFAIK04:04
w30ok04:04
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w30there is enough emerald themes to supply everyones taste so no problem there04:07
holsteinw30: OK... im missing something else... notifications, i dont like these notifications in compiz.. i want the ones that you can click through04:19
w30I don't know anything about notifcations, explain notifications to me if you can.04:24
holsteinw30: not sure.. they just notify you04:25
w30about what?04:25
w30who your wife was with, kids smoking pot?04:26
holsteinlike, the volume... unplugging the power adapter.. messages... monitor brightness04:26
w30the ones that appear and fade away, yeah they are about worthless04:28
holsteinused to be (and in other-buntu) you can click through them04:28
MrBobblywhat's the button you hit to get to the grub menu at boot?04:29
holsteinMrBobbly: shift?04:29
Unit193Right shift04:29
Unit193Other right, left04:30
holsteini just un-hide it04:30
w30like MS Windows error 9853ef248uxz04:30
MrBobblynice thank you04:30
w30holstein, like duh....04:30
Unit193If you want to un-hide it, you need to edit /etc/default/grub and update-grub04:31
MrBobblywtf04:31
holsteini appreciate hte feedback though sometimes w30 , like with the volume04:31
MrBobblydoes xubuntu not support "nox" on the kernel cmd line?04:31
w30MrBobbly, what does text do?04:32
w30MrBobbly, try that04:32
w30MrBobbly, no gui, I think04:32
MrBobblyno worries i sshed in04:32
MrBobblybut i'm kinda screwed04:33
MrBobblylogin via gdm fails04:33
w30MrBobbly, that will work :=)04:33
MrBobblylogin via console succeeds but the video is unreadable04:33
MrBobbly   0 2011-10-28 21:16 .goutputstream-1XN83V04:34
holsteintrying an older kernel is a good idea if you just did an update recently04:34
MrBobblyohhh look04:34
MrBobbly /home is full04:34
MrBobblyhow aggravating that everything just stops working04:34
MrBobblythis would explain why i couldn't access .gvfs earlier too04:35
w30MrBobbly, MrBobby is a hoarder?04:35
MrBobblyheh nah it's a small vbox instance04:35
* w30 moves /home/porn to /media/porn04:36
MrBobblywoah04:36
MrBobblysob04:36
MrBobblyall my perferences are gone04:36
MrBobblyoh so how does one enable the "save this session" check box on the logout dialogue?04:37
w30MrBobbly, check out settings session and startup04:39
w30MrBobbly, check out settings and then session and startup04:40
* MrBobbly doesn't waste valuable SSD space on porn04:40
MrBobblythat's what USB drives and LUKS is for ;)04:40
w30MrBobbly, not serious, just kidding.04:41
MrBobblyoh yeah i looked in session and startup cuz that's where i rembember that always being04:42
MrBobblybut it isn't04:42
MrBobblytheres an option to auto save on logout04:42
MrBobblybut i don't want that04:42
MrBobblyi want to be able to set/clear the checkbox like in the past04:42
w30MrBobbly, All boxes need houskeeping now and then I guess.....04:42
w30MrBobbly, whaat does Prompt on logout do?04:44
w30whaat/what04:44
MrBobblyi just get the ok/cancel and the timer04:49
MrBobblyolder versions had a check box too04:49
MrBobblyto maek a one time save of the session04:49
MrBobblyok lvm to the rescue04:50
x_if I open nautilus in xfce it changes my desktop background to a magenta color, until I log off and back on any ideas why?06:03
well_laid_lawnyou need the --no-desktop option for nutilus06:03
well_laid_lawnor start using thunar ;)06:03
x_thunar doesn't show transfer speed of my copies.... is my main problem with it06:04
x_thx for the help ;-)06:06
well_laid_lawncheers06:07
xubunturobHi all, I was wondering if anyone is having trouble with minitube 1.5??06:17
xubunturobIs there anybody out there? Just nod if you can here me06:23
xubunturobIs there anyone at home06:26
valdur55Hey. how can i manage my sound with hotkeys?06:26
valdur55Hello.06:26
xubunturobDon't know06:27
pefarkhey06:58
pefark?06:58
well_laid_lawn?06:59
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ballwell_laid_lawn: That was odd.07:05
well_laid_lawnball: what was?07:06
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ballbrb07:07
MikeChelenhi, after installing fglrx the system will not boot. it hangs with "error no suitable mode found" in terminal09:21
MikeChelenset gfxmode=1280x80009:37
MikeChelenerr that didnt work09:38
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xubuntu053hi there14:40
* xubuntu053 likes xubuntu14:40
xubuntu053;)14:40
xubuntu053can you recommend an alternate software to midnight commander with gtk? krusander and dolphin are overloaded14:42
xubuntu053just have an old armada e500 notebook with 600mhz14:43
holsteinxubuntu053: thunar not going to work?14:44
holsteinpcman14:45
xubuntu053holstein: its okay but slow14:45
xubuntu053also firefox is to overloaded, going to switch to opera maybe14:45
holsteinyeah?14:46
xubuntu053?14:46
holsteini had an e500 a while back14:46
holsteini used puppy linux on it14:46
holsteini would think xubuntu would be OK on it14:46
holsteinbut, you might want to consider getting more ram14:47
xubuntu053does puppy alsouses the apt packaging system?14:47
holsteini remember i had ram laying around that would work in there, so i maxed it out.. (512?) not sure14:47
holsteinit (the e500) was much happier14:47
xubuntu053256mb14:47
holsteinthe fact is, thats an old machine14:47
holsteinfirefox is not overloaded14:47
holsteinthats an old box14:47
xubuntu053hehe okay will search for ram at ebay now14:47
holsteinim using chromium-browser14:47
Unit193Firefox is a bit heavy still14:48
xubuntu053holstein: yeah its overloaded for my box ;) not in generall14:48
holsteini havent used puppy in a while14:48
holsteinyeah, FF is probably still one of the heaviest14:48
holsteinbut, thats not why is running slow on a 600mhz with 256 of ram...14:48
Unit193But it's getting better, and it's the best14:48
Unit193Try midori/arora for that14:49
xubuntu053chrome.. also pretty good choise14:49
holsteinyeah, midori is nice and light14:49
holsteinopera used to run blazing fast on linux14:49
xubuntu053midori?14:49
xubuntu053browser?14:49
holstein!midori14:49
Unit193600 w/356? Xubuntu won't run well, either AntiX, SliTaz, or Lubuntu14:49
holstein:/14:49
Unit193!info midori14:49
xubuntu053!g midori14:49
drcxubuntu053: You also might try Bodhi Linux...it's E17 on a ubuntu base...very minimal  http://www.bodhilinux.com/system.php14:49
ubottumidori (source: midori): fast, lightweight graphical web browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0-2 (oneiric), package size 1094 kB, installed size 3736 kB14:49
drcE17 might take some getting used to, but it's darn pretty.14:52
drcAre "They" ever going to fix that irratating slowness in opening Thunar for the first time in a session?15:15
Sysithere's workaround, remove networking features (gvfs-plugins or something)15:18
Sysipersonally I detest lag when deleting files more15:19
drcSysi: That too :)15:19
Sysi*that* happens with quadcore and ssd too15:19
drcI never thought I'd say this, but this sort of stuff makes me wish for nautilus :(15:20
Sysieww nautilus, dolphin is so much better15:20
drcSysi: Yes, but I really don't want to pull half of the QT libraries with it15:20
Sysiyou can't get more than 5GB root used by installing entire kde, xfce and gnome15:21
drcSysi: It's not the space, it's the idea....15:22
Sysior maybe 6GB nowdays, anyway15:22
Sysidrc: irony, I'm kind of running out of space in my root partition15:22
drcah15:22
Sysiwell, I'll reinstall when F16 is released15:23
SysiI'm tempted to go with KDE :G15:24
White--hi, after I changed my monitor setup for 2 monitors (little different resolut) using randr, when moveing the mouse to the bottom of the screen, the starter bar does no longer come up15:41
White--Is there a way to get this working again?15:41
[h4wk]hi 2 all15:56
[h4wk]i have a problem :)15:56
[h4wk]Problem is with GTK15:58
SysiWhite--: move panels to bigger screen15:58
[h4wk]Can somebody help me?16:00
Sysino, you never told what's problem16:00
Sysimaybe, pop a question and see if someone has an ansver16:01
[h4wk]:D i will tell you :) I install new theme and activate it in appearence tool and GTK is not working in all apps16:01
[h4wk]how can I solve it to work in all16:02
Sysi11.10? that theme propably doesn't have gtk3-theming, you can copy gtk3-part from greybird or some other theme that has it to make those apps look a little better16:02
Sysior you just need to use theme that has gtk3 too16:03
[h4wk]these are gtk2, you are probably right :)16:03
[h4wk]Sysi you are right i copied GTK3 folder in some theme and I activate it and all apps that were not working are look like greybird :)16:06
Sysikind of common problem nowdays16:06
[h4wk]And if I install some GTK3 theme it will work completely?16:07
Sysiit should, too bad there aren't too much complete themes; ubuntu default ambiance, gnome3 default adwaita, xubuntu default greybird and misc (buggy) themes at gnome-look.org16:09
[h4wk]Is there a way to make to work GTK2 theme or I must look only for GTK3?16:09
[h4wk]last question Sysi :)16:09
steph7hi where are driver hardware in xubuntu 11.04?16:11
Sysi[h4wk]: turning gtk2 theme into gtk3 theme basically means making new theme16:11
[h4wk]no no16:12
[h4wk]is there a chance to make it work gtk2 theme in 11.10 xubuntu?16:12
Sysiuhm no, you need both gtk2 and gtk3 part16:12
[h4wk]ok...tnx Sysi :)16:13
drc[h4wk]: They do work, with apps that aren't gtk3 compliant...other than that, no.16:13
Sysisteph7: unless you have brand new broadcom wifi or new ati graphics card, should work fine16:13
Sysisteph7: check with livecd/usb16:13
Sysiuhm where, basically in kernel16:13
Sysijust tell what doesn't work and how16:14
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drcAnyone know of a fix for the sound icon in the indicator plugin UNmuting?  The popup bubble indicates the sound should be unmuted, but I must manually unmute the icon for the sound to work.16:52
drcI thought that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-indicator-plugin/+bug/852017 covered this (in theory), but the fix was commited and the behavior has continued.16:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 852017 in xfce4-indicator-plugin (Ubuntu Oneiric) "xfce4-indicator-plugin does not update output" [High,Triaged]16:53
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aquanthello. accidentally found nice picture https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=xubuntu-site.png18:16
S_SubZerogrr still can't get xubuntu to connect smb to either win7 or OS X18:37
GridCubeS_SubZero, installed gcfs-backends ?18:48
GridCubeS_SubZero, installed gvfs-backends ?18:48
S_SubZeroyeah I see the options in Gigolo but it throws errors connecting.18:48
GridCubewell thats weird18:49
GridCubesadly i don't know much about samba :(18:49
S_SubZerothe network browser in Thunar can see the OS X machine, both smb and afp, but neither works18:50
S_SubZerosmb just asks for password into infinity18:51
S_SubZerooh wait suddenly it works.  @.@18:51
MrBobblyhello19:23
GridCubehello19:24
MrBobblyrequirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user19:24
GridCube?19:24
MrBobblycan;t log in19:24
GridCubeoh19:24
knomesegmentation fault19:24
MrBobblythat;s the pam error19:24
knomequitting19:24
knome/quit19:24
knome;)19:24
MrBobblyyeah that error is a showstopper19:31
MrBobblyanyone know of it?19:31
MrBobblyi think it's related to .gvdm or whatever that directory is called19:32
MrBobblyeither way, if i can't find a fix asap then 11.10 goes back on the shelf19:32
MrBobblyand unfortunately linux gets another failing grade as a desktop19:33
ToZMrBobbly: anything in ~/.xsession-errors of user account you are trying to login to?19:35
MrBobblySetting IM through im-switch for locale=en_US.19:39
MrBobblyStart IM through /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/all_ALL linked to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default.19:39
MrBobbly/usr/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :119:39
MrBobblyxrdb:  "Xft.hinting" on line 13 overrides entry on line 619:39
MrBobblyxrdb:  "Xft.hintstyle" on line 14 overrides entry on line 719:39
MrBobblyssh-agent is already running19:40
MrBobblyxfce4-session: Unable to access file /home/adam/.ICEauthority: Input/output error19:40
MrBobblyahh damn19:40
MrBobblymeant to paste this http://pastebin.com/EaKRfEmZ19:40
MrBobblya meta-paste meta screwup19:40
ToZTry deleting /home/adam/.ICEauthority (may need root permissions), then try again19:42
xubuntu336Hello, world!19:49
knomehey19:49
MrBobblyt ToZ that did the trick, ty19:50
MrBobblycan you shed some light as to why?19:50
MrBobblyi mean i was using the box last night19:50
MrBobblyshut down19:50
MrBobblyslept (i know, this step is risky)19:51
MrBobblyand then it just stopped working19:51
xubuntu336Yeah it is the first time i use the IRC service!19:51
knomexubuntu336, welcome19:51
ToZMrBobbly: .iceauthority and .xauthority premission issues in 10.11 *buntus.19:51
ToZMr Bobbly: is yours a fresh xubuntu install or update/upgrade from previous version or ubuntu version?19:52
ToZMr Bobbly: don't think i've ever seen an official reason why? just fixes.19:53
knomemany things changed in 11.10 anyway19:53
knomeupgrades can always break19:53
MrBobblyit was a clean install 11.1019:58
knomethere can be permission problems if you have enabled root account19:59
olvinIs there anybody who knows how to create applets for xfce panel?20:01
well_laid_lawnI'm sure there is20:02
olvinYes i'm sure too =)20:04
Boxmanhi, would someone be able to help me with a sound issue?20:04
well_laid_lawnBoxman: it'll probably depend on what the issue is20:05
Boxmanpoint taken, okay,20:06
BoxmanI just installed xubuntu 11.10 and my sound driver that worked in regular Ubuntu 11.10 has no audio output20:06
Boxmanit's a stereo set to usb converter20:06
Boxmanthough I also have an lx-3000 microsoft headset if that might help for debugging20:07
Boxmanneither of them work20:07
well_laid_lawndoes it show in aplay -l or alsamixer -c 0  ?20:07
GridCubeBoxman did you tried installing pavocontrol?20:07
GridCubepavucontrol20:07
GridCubegods im dyslexic today20:08
Boxmannot yet, installing that now20:08
GridCubealso do what well_laid_lawn said and a lspci and paste all the results on a pastebin20:09
GridCubenow i gotta go :P20:09
Boxmanoh hey, it works, I guess I just hadn't selected the driver properly20:09
GridCube:)20:09
Boxmanthanks so much20:09
GridCubegood to hear20:10
GridCube:)20:10
olvin=)20:10
Boxman=)20:10
Boxmansee ya20:10
azzisdf20:18
mongyAny netspeed like app for xfce?  I don't like the builtin one for the panel, need to hover it to see up/down speed.  Don't want to use conky.  Tried indicator-sysmonitor which I use in ubuntu but doesn't quite work properly.  Ideas? Just want something to sit in the panel to show me up/down speeds.20:32
w30mongy, w you settle for a netspeed applet from screenlets21:16
w30w/would21:16
mongyback.  I'd rather have it in the panel, like netspeed does it.  I am trying to stay away from anything on the desktop21:42
well_laid_lawnicons look so much better without a coloured background behind the text21:43
mongyI read there was something called xfapplet or some such that could add gnome2 applets to xfce panel, but never got it compiledd or working21:44
w30MrBobbly, check the premissions in your home directory especially .Xclients; Mine somehow got chaned to root ownership and stopprf gui cold.22:05
w30stopprf/stopped22:06
w30premissions/permissions   ...must be the vicodin22:07
MisterQuebecoisHello22:10
w30some in here said don't sudo or su -i to run a GUI. Use gksu <app> as a safer alternative22:10
ballDoes Ubuntu come with a tool that would let me look for NFS shares on another host?22:13
balls/Ubuntu/Xubuntu/22:13
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koszalHello all,  I've just upgraded from some old release of xubuntu to the new one and somehow I've managed to get lost gnome-volume-control-applet that is used to display volume control in panel.  Which package provided this?23:32
zacariashow do you install a new splash screen?23:32
zacariasnever mind, I already know it23:36
xubuntu244ll23:55
xubuntu244wholy crap. one can chat on irc during xubuntu installation.23:56

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