[00:00] 21 users hehe [00:00] yeah, that's about 15 more than a few monts ago... [00:00] +h [00:00] must xubuntu users get help in #ubuntu anyways hehe [00:00] Everytime I ask for a "xubuntu" list in xchat, it's never listed :( [00:00] most* [00:01] drc, hmm, weird. [00:04] !alis | drc [00:04] drc: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* [00:10] drc, in the channel list query, at the bottom, is the min # of users for a channel more than the number of people here? [00:11] ScottE: Nope, that's not it (I already thought of that). [00:12] OK, just checking... [00:13] if you refer to alis, it's probably a cached usercount === Chaoz is now known as peerAU === m00se is now known as honeybee === honeybee is now known as m00se === m00se is now known as DoRkTitaN === DoRkTitaN is now known as m00se [03:05] Anybody have emerald installed? [03:06] Is there a Ubuntu version available anywhere? [03:07] I want to change window my window border to something decent. [03:08] even wvm or win95 look alike would be better than what the default is. [03:09] * w30 using compiz [03:09] w30: me too [03:09] i was wondering the same thing [03:11] If I could find the configuration I could stick in different .pngs and name them the same *hack hack* [03:11] it was taken out for sure [03:11] http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/329590 [03:14] * holstein reading about http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/get-emerald-to-work-in-ubuntu-1104.html [03:21] w30: whaddaya think? [03:21] https://launchpad.net/~malteworld/+archive/compiz [03:21] its a natty repo [03:21] ppa* [03:22] im not sure i would know how to change to it.. [03:23] Cards win series [03:24] holstein, I think I will try to compile it. [03:24] i might just grab the .debs from http://ppa.launchpad.net/malteworld/compiz/ubuntu/pool/main/e/emerald/ [03:26] holstein, if you get it installed, I'll ask you when I see you in here in a couple of days :=) [03:26] hehe [03:26] why not just ask in #compiz what gets used now? [03:27] well_laid_lawn, good idea, /j #compiz [03:28] w30: keep me posted [03:28] im checking on these .debs... [03:31] holstein, in ccsm in the plugin window-decorator in the window that says /usr/bin/compiz-decorator edit it and put in emerald [03:32] or /usr/bin/emerald [03:32] simple I think [03:34] from #compiz 23:32 < soreau> the official decorators are gtk-window-decorator and kde4-window-decorator [03:35] probably why emerald isn't available... [03:35] yup [03:35] i was wondering... who knew... ask in #compiz ;) good suggestion well_laid_lawn [03:36] there's even a bot link for it [03:36] !compiz [03:36] Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [03:56] w30: worked [03:56] I could care less about emerald, the decorator themes, I just want a way to display a different window border. It seems you can't have gtk borders or kde borders. [03:57] themes yes but borders no. [03:57] well, i gotz me a nice window border :) [03:57] holstein, really, how? [03:58] w30: with emerald [03:58] !info gtk-window-decorator [03:58] Package gtk-window-decorator does not exist in oneiric [03:58] oh, ok [03:58] oh [03:58] http://compiz-themes.org/content/show.php/WolfeEmerald?content=146131&PHPSESSID=569fd3c2c6bcf32f2cdac59f75c9051e [03:58] hmmm... nasty... sorry [03:59] w30: ^^ i installed that as a proof of concept [03:59] i have gtk-window-decorator [04:01] holstein, so do I but the themes can't load their borders into compiz === peerAU is now known as evilNirvana [04:02] w30: i have installed emerald from http://ppa.launchpad.net/malteworld/compiz/ubuntu/pool/main/e/emerald/ and added that theme, and i have those wolfe emerald window decorations [04:03] holstein, you have to load an emerald window theme also, right? [04:04] AFAIK [04:04] ok === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [04:07] there is enough emerald themes to supply everyones taste so no problem there [04:19] w30: OK... im missing something else... notifications, i dont like these notifications in compiz.. i want the ones that you can click through [04:24] I don't know anything about notifcations, explain notifications to me if you can. [04:25] w30: not sure.. they just notify you [04:25] about what? [04:26] who your wife was with, kids smoking pot? [04:26] like, the volume... unplugging the power adapter.. messages... monitor brightness [04:28] the ones that appear and fade away, yeah they are about worthless [04:28] used to be (and in other-buntu) you can click through them [04:29] what's the button you hit to get to the grub menu at boot? [04:29] MrBobbly: shift? [04:29] Right shift [04:30] Other right, left [04:30] i just un-hide it [04:30] like MS Windows error 9853ef248uxz [04:30] nice thank you [04:30] holstein, like duh.... [04:31] If you want to un-hide it, you need to edit /etc/default/grub and update-grub [04:31] wtf [04:31] i appreciate hte feedback though sometimes w30 , like with the volume [04:31] does xubuntu not support "nox" on the kernel cmd line? [04:32] MrBobbly, what does text do? [04:32] MrBobbly, try that [04:32] MrBobbly, no gui, I think [04:32] no worries i sshed in [04:33] but i'm kinda screwed [04:33] login via gdm fails [04:33] MrBobbly, that will work :=) [04:33] login via console succeeds but the video is unreadable [04:34] 0 2011-10-28 21:16 .goutputstream-1XN83V [04:34] trying an older kernel is a good idea if you just did an update recently [04:34] ohhh look [04:34] /home is full [04:34] how aggravating that everything just stops working [04:35] this would explain why i couldn't access .gvfs earlier too [04:35] MrBobbly, MrBobby is a hoarder? [04:35] heh nah it's a small vbox instance [04:36] * w30 moves /home/porn to /media/porn [04:36] woah [04:36] sob [04:36] all my perferences are gone [04:37] oh so how does one enable the "save this session" check box on the logout dialogue? [04:39] MrBobbly, check out settings session and startup [04:40] MrBobbly, check out settings and then session and startup [04:40] * MrBobbly doesn't waste valuable SSD space on porn [04:40] that's what USB drives and LUKS is for ;) [04:41] MrBobbly, not serious, just kidding. [04:42] oh yeah i looked in session and startup cuz that's where i rembember that always being [04:42] but it isn't [04:42] theres an option to auto save on logout [04:42] but i don't want that [04:42] i want to be able to set/clear the checkbox like in the past [04:42] MrBobbly, All boxes need houskeeping now and then I guess..... [04:44] MrBobbly, whaat does Prompt on logout do? [04:44] whaat/what [04:49] i just get the ok/cancel and the timer [04:49] older versions had a check box too [04:49] to maek a one time save of the session [04:50] ok lvm to the rescue [06:03] if I open nautilus in xfce it changes my desktop background to a magenta color, until I log off and back on any ideas why? [06:03] you need the --no-desktop option for nutilus [06:03] or start using thunar ;) [06:04] thunar doesn't show transfer speed of my copies.... is my main problem with it [06:06] thx for the help ;-) [06:07] cheers [06:17] Hi all, I was wondering if anyone is having trouble with minitube 1.5?? [06:23] Is there anybody out there? Just nod if you can here me [06:26] Is there anyone at home [06:26] Hey. how can i manage my sound with hotkeys? [06:26] Hello. [06:27] Don't know [06:58] hey [06:58] ? [06:59] ? === evilNirvana is now known as occupychristel === occupychristel is now known as peerAU === peerAU is now known as occupyALLthethin [07:05] well_laid_lawn: That was odd. [07:06] ball: what was? === occupyALLthethin is now known as occupychristel [07:07] brb [09:21] hi, after installing fglrx the system will not boot. it hangs with "error no suitable mode found" in terminal [09:37] set gfxmode=1280x800 [09:38] err that didnt work === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === antnash__ is now known as antnash [14:40] hi there [14:40] * xubuntu053 likes xubuntu [14:40] ;) [14:42] can you recommend an alternate software to midnight commander with gtk? krusander and dolphin are overloaded [14:43] just have an old armada e500 notebook with 600mhz [14:44] xubuntu053: thunar not going to work? [14:45] pcman [14:45] holstein: its okay but slow [14:45] also firefox is to overloaded, going to switch to opera maybe [14:46] yeah? [14:46] ? [14:46] i had an e500 a while back [14:46] i used puppy linux on it [14:46] i would think xubuntu would be OK on it [14:47] but, you might want to consider getting more ram [14:47] does puppy alsouses the apt packaging system? [14:47] i remember i had ram laying around that would work in there, so i maxed it out.. (512?) not sure [14:47] it (the e500) was much happier [14:47] 256mb [14:47] the fact is, thats an old machine [14:47] firefox is not overloaded [14:47] thats an old box [14:47] hehe okay will search for ram at ebay now [14:47] im using chromium-browser [14:48] Firefox is a bit heavy still [14:48] holstein: yeah its overloaded for my box ;) not in generall [14:48] i havent used puppy in a while [14:48] yeah, FF is probably still one of the heaviest [14:48] but, thats not why is running slow on a 600mhz with 256 of ram... [14:48] But it's getting better, and it's the best [14:49] Try midori/arora for that [14:49] chrome.. also pretty good choise [14:49] yeah, midori is nice and light [14:49] opera used to run blazing fast on linux [14:49] midori? [14:49] browser? [14:49] !midori [14:49] 600 w/356? Xubuntu won't run well, either AntiX, SliTaz, or Lubuntu [14:49] :/ [14:49] !info midori [14:49] !g midori [14:49] xubuntu053: You also might try Bodhi Linux...it's E17 on a ubuntu base...very minimal http://www.bodhilinux.com/system.php [14:49] midori (source: midori): fast, lightweight graphical web browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0-2 (oneiric), package size 1094 kB, installed size 3736 kB [14:52] E17 might take some getting used to, but it's darn pretty. [15:15] Are "They" ever going to fix that irratating slowness in opening Thunar for the first time in a session? [15:18] there's workaround, remove networking features (gvfs-plugins or something) [15:19] personally I detest lag when deleting files more [15:19] Sysi: That too :) [15:19] *that* happens with quadcore and ssd too [15:20] I never thought I'd say this, but this sort of stuff makes me wish for nautilus :( [15:20] eww nautilus, dolphin is so much better [15:20] Sysi: Yes, but I really don't want to pull half of the QT libraries with it [15:21] you can't get more than 5GB root used by installing entire kde, xfce and gnome [15:22] Sysi: It's not the space, it's the idea.... [15:22] or maybe 6GB nowdays, anyway [15:22] drc: irony, I'm kind of running out of space in my root partition [15:22] ah [15:23] well, I'll reinstall when F16 is released [15:24] I'm tempted to go with KDE :G [15:41] hi, after I changed my monitor setup for 2 monitors (little different resolut) using randr, when moveing the mouse to the bottom of the screen, the starter bar does no longer come up [15:41] Is there a way to get this working again? [15:56] <[h4wk]> hi 2 all [15:56] <[h4wk]> i have a problem :) [15:58] <[h4wk]> Problem is with GTK [15:58] White--: move panels to bigger screen [16:00] <[h4wk]> Can somebody help me? [16:00] no, you never told what's problem [16:01] maybe, pop a question and see if someone has an ansver [16:01] <[h4wk]> :D i will tell you :) I install new theme and activate it in appearence tool and GTK is not working in all apps [16:02] <[h4wk]> how can I solve it to work in all [16:02] 11.10? that theme propably doesn't have gtk3-theming, you can copy gtk3-part from greybird or some other theme that has it to make those apps look a little better [16:03] or you just need to use theme that has gtk3 too [16:03] <[h4wk]> these are gtk2, you are probably right :) [16:06] <[h4wk]> Sysi you are right i copied GTK3 folder in some theme and I activate it and all apps that were not working are look like greybird :) [16:06] kind of common problem nowdays [16:07] <[h4wk]> And if I install some GTK3 theme it will work completely? [16:09] it should, too bad there aren't too much complete themes; ubuntu default ambiance, gnome3 default adwaita, xubuntu default greybird and misc (buggy) themes at gnome-look.org [16:09] <[h4wk]> Is there a way to make to work GTK2 theme or I must look only for GTK3? [16:09] <[h4wk]> last question Sysi :) [16:11] hi where are driver hardware in xubuntu 11.04? [16:11] [h4wk]: turning gtk2 theme into gtk3 theme basically means making new theme [16:12] <[h4wk]> no no [16:12] <[h4wk]> is there a chance to make it work gtk2 theme in 11.10 xubuntu? [16:12] uhm no, you need both gtk2 and gtk3 part [16:13] <[h4wk]> ok...tnx Sysi :) [16:13] [h4wk]: They do work, with apps that aren't gtk3 compliant...other than that, no. [16:13] steph7: unless you have brand new broadcom wifi or new ati graphics card, should work fine [16:13] steph7: check with livecd/usb [16:13] uhm where, basically in kernel [16:14] just tell what doesn't work and how === occupychristel is now known as peerAU [16:52] Anyone know of a fix for the sound icon in the indicator plugin UNmuting? The popup bubble indicates the sound should be unmuted, but I must manually unmute the icon for the sound to work. [16:53] I thought that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-indicator-plugin/+bug/852017 covered this (in theory), but the fix was commited and the behavior has continued. [16:53] Launchpad bug 852017 in xfce4-indicator-plugin (Ubuntu Oneiric) "xfce4-indicator-plugin does not update output" [High,Triaged] === peerAU is now known as occupychristel === arlen_ is now known as Guest35411 [18:16] hello. accidentally found nice picture https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=xubuntu-site.png [18:37] grr still can't get xubuntu to connect smb to either win7 or OS X [18:48] S_SubZero, installed gcfs-backends ? [18:48] S_SubZero, installed gvfs-backends ? [18:48] yeah I see the options in Gigolo but it throws errors connecting. [18:49] well thats weird [18:49] sadly i don't know much about samba :( [18:50] the network browser in Thunar can see the OS X machine, both smb and afp, but neither works [18:51] smb just asks for password into infinity [18:51] oh wait suddenly it works. @.@ [19:23] hello [19:24] hello [19:24] requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user [19:24] ? [19:24] can;t log in [19:24] oh [19:24] segmentation fault [19:24] that;s the pam error [19:24] quitting [19:24] /quit [19:24] ;) [19:31] yeah that error is a showstopper [19:31] anyone know of it? [19:32] i think it's related to .gvdm or whatever that directory is called [19:32] either way, if i can't find a fix asap then 11.10 goes back on the shelf [19:33] and unfortunately linux gets another failing grade as a desktop [19:35] MrBobbly: anything in ~/.xsession-errors of user account you are trying to login to? [19:39] Setting IM through im-switch for locale=en_US. [19:39] Start IM through /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/all_ALL linked to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default. [19:39] /usr/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :1 [19:39] xrdb: "Xft.hinting" on line 13 overrides entry on line 6 [19:39] xrdb: "Xft.hintstyle" on line 14 overrides entry on line 7 [19:40] ssh-agent is already running [19:40] xfce4-session: Unable to access file /home/adam/.ICEauthority: Input/output error [19:40] ahh damn [19:40] meant to paste this http://pastebin.com/EaKRfEmZ [19:40] a meta-paste meta screwup [19:42] Try deleting /home/adam/.ICEauthority (may need root permissions), then try again [19:49] Hello, world! [19:49] hey [19:50] t ToZ that did the trick, ty [19:50] can you shed some light as to why? [19:50] i mean i was using the box last night [19:50] shut down [19:51] slept (i know, this step is risky) [19:51] and then it just stopped working [19:51] Yeah it is the first time i use the IRC service! [19:51] xubuntu336, welcome [19:51] MrBobbly: .iceauthority and .xauthority premission issues in 10.11 *buntus. [19:52] Mr Bobbly: is yours a fresh xubuntu install or update/upgrade from previous version or ubuntu version? [19:53] Mr Bobbly: don't think i've ever seen an official reason why? just fixes. [19:53] many things changed in 11.10 anyway [19:53] upgrades can always break [19:58] it was a clean install 11.10 [19:59] there can be permission problems if you have enabled root account [20:01] Is there anybody who knows how to create applets for xfce panel? [20:02] I'm sure there is [20:04] Yes i'm sure too =) [20:04] hi, would someone be able to help me with a sound issue? [20:05] Boxman: it'll probably depend on what the issue is [20:06] point taken, okay, [20:06] I just installed xubuntu 11.10 and my sound driver that worked in regular Ubuntu 11.10 has no audio output [20:06] it's a stereo set to usb converter [20:07] though I also have an lx-3000 microsoft headset if that might help for debugging [20:07] neither of them work [20:07] does it show in aplay -l or alsamixer -c 0 ? [20:07] Boxman did you tried installing pavocontrol? [20:07] pavucontrol [20:08] gods im dyslexic today [20:08] not yet, installing that now [20:09] also do what well_laid_lawn said and a lspci and paste all the results on a pastebin [20:09] now i gotta go :P [20:09] oh hey, it works, I guess I just hadn't selected the driver properly [20:09] :) [20:09] thanks so much [20:10] good to hear [20:10] :) [20:10] =) [20:10] =) [20:10] see ya [20:18] sdf [20:32] Any netspeed like app for xfce? I don't like the builtin one for the panel, need to hover it to see up/down speed. Don't want to use conky. Tried indicator-sysmonitor which I use in ubuntu but doesn't quite work properly. Ideas? Just want something to sit in the panel to show me up/down speeds. [21:16] mongy, w you settle for a netspeed applet from screenlets [21:16] w/would [21:42] back. I'd rather have it in the panel, like netspeed does it. I am trying to stay away from anything on the desktop [21:43] icons look so much better without a coloured background behind the text [21:44] I read there was something called xfapplet or some such that could add gnome2 applets to xfce panel, but never got it compiledd or working [22:05] MrBobbly, check the premissions in your home directory especially .Xclients; Mine somehow got chaned to root ownership and stopprf gui cold. [22:06] stopprf/stopped [22:07] premissions/permissions ...must be the vicodin [22:10] Hello [22:10] some in here said don't sudo or su -i to run a GUI. Use gksu as a safer alternative [22:13] Does Ubuntu come with a tool that would let me look for NFS shares on another host? [22:13] s/Ubuntu/Xubuntu/ === vicky is now known as Guest13480 [23:32] Hello all, I've just upgraded from some old release of xubuntu to the new one and somehow I've managed to get lost gnome-volume-control-applet that is used to display volume control in panel. Which package provided this? [23:32] how do you install a new splash screen? [23:36] never mind, I already know it [23:55] ll [23:56] wholy crap. one can chat on irc during xubuntu installation.