[00:00] <Deceiver> 21 users hehe
[00:00] <knome> yeah, that's about 15 more than a few monts ago...
[00:00] <knome> +h
[00:00] <Deceiver> must xubuntu users get help in #ubuntu anyways hehe
[00:00] <drc> Everytime I ask for a "xubuntu" list in xchat, it's never listed :(
[00:00] <Deceiver> most*
[00:01] <knome> drc, hmm, weird.
[00:04] <knome> !alis | drc
[00:10] <ScottE> drc, in the channel list query, at the bottom, is the min # of users for a channel more than the number of people here?
[00:11] <drc> ScottE: Nope, that's not it (I already thought of that).
[00:12] <ScottE> OK, just checking...
[00:13] <knome> if you refer to alis, it's probably a cached usercount
[03:05] <w30> Anybody have emerald installed?
[03:06] <w30> Is there a Ubuntu version available anywhere?
[03:07] <w30> I want to change window my window border to something decent.
[03:08] <w30> even wvm or win95 look alike would be better than what the default is.
[03:09]  * w30 using compiz
[03:09] <holstein> w30: me too
[03:09] <holstein> i was wondering the same thing
[03:11] <w30> If I could find the configuration I could stick in different .pngs and name them the same *hack hack*
[03:11] <holstein> it was taken out for sure
[03:11] <holstein> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/329590
[03:14]  * holstein reading about http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/get-emerald-to-work-in-ubuntu-1104.html
[03:21] <holstein> w30: whaddaya think?
[03:21] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~malteworld/+archive/compiz
[03:21] <holstein> its a natty repo
[03:21] <holstein> ppa*
[03:22] <holstein> im not sure i would know how to change to it..
[03:23] <w30> Cards win series
[03:24] <w30> holstein, I think I will try to compile it.
[03:24] <holstein> i might just grab the .debs from http://ppa.launchpad.net/malteworld/compiz/ubuntu/pool/main/e/emerald/
[03:26] <w30> holstein, if you get it installed, I'll ask you when I see you in here in a couple of days :=)
[03:26] <holstein> hehe
[03:26] <well_laid_lawn> why not just ask in #compiz what gets used now?
[03:27] <w30> well_laid_lawn, good idea,  /j #compiz
[03:28] <holstein> w30: keep me posted
[03:28] <holstein> im checking on these .debs...
[03:31] <w30> holstein, in ccsm in  the plugin window-decorator in the window that says /usr/bin/compiz-decorator edit it and put in emerald
[03:32] <w30> or /usr/bin/emerald
[03:32] <w30> simple I think
[03:34] <holstein> from #compiz 23:32 < soreau> the official decorators are gtk-window-decorator and kde4-window-decorator
[03:35] <well_laid_lawn> probably why emerald isn't available...
[03:35] <holstein> yup
[03:35] <holstein> i was wondering... who knew... ask in #compiz ;) good suggestion well_laid_lawn
[03:36] <well_laid_lawn> there's even a bot link for it
[03:36] <well_laid_lawn> !compiz
[03:56] <holstein> w30: worked
[03:56] <w30> I could care less about emerald, the decorator themes, I just want a way to display a different window border. It seems you can't have gtk borders or kde borders.
[03:57] <w30> themes yes but borders no.
[03:57] <holstein> well, i gotz me a nice window border :)
[03:57] <w30> holstein, really, how?
[03:58] <holstein> w30: with emerald
[03:58] <well_laid_lawn> !info gtk-window-decorator
[03:58] <w30> oh, ok
[03:58] <well_laid_lawn> oh
[03:58] <holstein> http://compiz-themes.org/content/show.php/WolfeEmerald?content=146131&PHPSESSID=569fd3c2c6bcf32f2cdac59f75c9051e
[03:58] <holstein> hmmm... nasty... sorry
[03:59] <holstein> w30: ^^ i installed that as a proof of concept
[03:59] <holstein> i have gtk-window-decorator
[04:01] <w30> holstein, so do I but the themes can't load their borders into compiz
[04:02] <holstein> w30: i have installed emerald from http://ppa.launchpad.net/malteworld/compiz/ubuntu/pool/main/e/emerald/ and added that theme, and i have those wolfe emerald window decorations
[04:03] <w30> holstein, you have to load an emerald window theme also, right?
[04:04] <holstein> AFAIK
[04:04] <w30> ok
[04:07] <w30> there is enough emerald themes to supply everyones taste so no problem there
[04:19] <holstein> w30: OK... im missing something else... notifications, i dont like these notifications in compiz.. i want the ones that you can click through
[04:24] <w30> I don't know anything about notifcations, explain notifications to me if you can.
[04:25] <holstein> w30: not sure.. they just notify you
[04:25] <w30> about what?
[04:26] <w30> who your wife was with, kids smoking pot?
[04:26] <holstein> like, the volume... unplugging the power adapter.. messages... monitor brightness
[04:28] <w30> the ones that appear and fade away, yeah they are about worthless
[04:28] <holstein> used to be (and in other-buntu) you can click through them
[04:29] <MrBobbly> what's the button you hit to get to the grub menu at boot?
[04:29] <holstein> MrBobbly: shift?
[04:29] <Unit193> Right shift
[04:30] <Unit193> Other right, left
[04:30] <holstein> i just un-hide it
[04:30] <w30> like MS Windows error 9853ef248uxz
[04:30] <MrBobbly> nice thank you
[04:30] <w30> holstein, like duh....
[04:31] <Unit193> If you want to un-hide it, you need to edit /etc/default/grub and update-grub
[04:31] <MrBobbly> wtf
[04:31] <holstein> i appreciate hte feedback though sometimes w30 , like with the volume
[04:31] <MrBobbly> does xubuntu not support "nox" on the kernel cmd line?
[04:32] <w30> MrBobbly, what does text do?
[04:32] <w30> MrBobbly, try that
[04:32] <w30> MrBobbly, no gui, I think
[04:32] <MrBobbly> no worries i sshed in
[04:33] <MrBobbly> but i'm kinda screwed
[04:33] <MrBobbly> login via gdm fails
[04:33] <w30> MrBobbly, that will work :=)
[04:33] <MrBobbly> login via console succeeds but the video is unreadable
[04:34] <MrBobbly>    0 2011-10-28 21:16 .goutputstream-1XN83V
[04:34] <holstein> trying an older kernel is a good idea if you just did an update recently
[04:34] <MrBobbly> ohhh look
[04:34] <MrBobbly>  /home is full
[04:34] <MrBobbly> how aggravating that everything just stops working
[04:35] <MrBobbly> this would explain why i couldn't access .gvfs earlier too
[04:35] <w30> MrBobbly, MrBobby is a hoarder?
[04:35] <MrBobbly> heh nah it's a small vbox instance
[04:36]  * w30 moves /home/porn to /media/porn
[04:36] <MrBobbly> woah
[04:36] <MrBobbly> sob
[04:36] <MrBobbly> all my perferences are gone
[04:37] <MrBobbly> oh so how does one enable the "save this session" check box on the logout dialogue?
[04:39] <w30> MrBobbly, check out settings session and startup
[04:40] <w30> MrBobbly, check out settings and then session and startup
[04:40]  * MrBobbly doesn't waste valuable SSD space on porn
[04:40] <MrBobbly> that's what USB drives and LUKS is for ;)
[04:41] <w30> MrBobbly, not serious, just kidding.
[04:42] <MrBobbly> oh yeah i looked in session and startup cuz that's where i rembember that always being
[04:42] <MrBobbly> but it isn't
[04:42] <MrBobbly> theres an option to auto save on logout
[04:42] <MrBobbly> but i don't want that
[04:42] <MrBobbly> i want to be able to set/clear the checkbox like in the past
[04:42] <w30> MrBobbly, All boxes need houskeeping now and then I guess.....
[04:44] <w30> MrBobbly, whaat does Prompt on logout do?
[04:44] <w30> whaat/what
[04:49] <MrBobbly> i just get the ok/cancel and the timer
[04:49] <MrBobbly> older versions had a check box too
[04:49] <MrBobbly> to maek a one time save of the session
[04:50] <MrBobbly> ok lvm to the rescue
[06:03] <x_> if I open nautilus in xfce it changes my desktop background to a magenta color, until I log off and back on any ideas why?
[06:03] <well_laid_lawn> you need the --no-desktop option for nutilus
[06:03] <well_laid_lawn> or start using thunar ;)
[06:04] <x_> thunar doesn't show transfer speed of my copies.... is my main problem with it
[06:06] <x_> thx for the help ;-)
[06:07] <well_laid_lawn> cheers
[06:17] <xubunturob> Hi all, I was wondering if anyone is having trouble with minitube 1.5??
[06:23] <xubunturob> Is there anybody out there? Just nod if you can here me
[06:26] <xubunturob> Is there anyone at home
[06:26] <valdur55> Hey. how can i manage my sound with hotkeys?
[06:26] <valdur55> Hello.
[06:27] <xubunturob> Don't know
[06:58] <pefark> hey
[06:58] <pefark> ?
[06:59] <well_laid_lawn> ?
[07:05] <ball> well_laid_lawn: That was odd.
[07:06] <well_laid_lawn> ball: what was?
[07:07] <ball> brb
[09:21] <MikeChelen> hi, after installing fglrx the system will not boot. it hangs with "error no suitable mode found" in terminal
[09:37] <MikeChelen> set gfxmode=1280x800
[09:38] <MikeChelen> err that didnt work
[14:40] <xubuntu053> hi there
[14:40]  * xubuntu053 likes xubuntu
[14:40] <xubuntu053> ;)
[14:42] <xubuntu053> can you recommend an alternate software to midnight commander with gtk? krusander and dolphin are overloaded
[14:43] <xubuntu053> just have an old armada e500 notebook with 600mhz
[14:44] <holstein> xubuntu053: thunar not going to work?
[14:45] <holstein> pcman
[14:45] <xubuntu053> holstein: its okay but slow
[14:45] <xubuntu053> also firefox is to overloaded, going to switch to opera maybe
[14:46] <holstein> yeah?
[14:46] <xubuntu053> ?
[14:46] <holstein> i had an e500 a while back
[14:46] <holstein> i used puppy linux on it
[14:46] <holstein> i would think xubuntu would be OK on it
[14:47] <holstein> but, you might want to consider getting more ram
[14:47] <xubuntu053> does puppy alsouses the apt packaging system?
[14:47] <holstein> i remember i had ram laying around that would work in there, so i maxed it out.. (512?) not sure
[14:47] <holstein> it (the e500) was much happier
[14:47] <xubuntu053> 256mb
[14:47] <holstein> the fact is, thats an old machine
[14:47] <holstein> firefox is not overloaded
[14:47] <holstein> thats an old box
[14:47] <xubuntu053> hehe okay will search for ram at ebay now
[14:47] <holstein> im using chromium-browser
[14:48] <Unit193> Firefox is a bit heavy still
[14:48] <xubuntu053> holstein: yeah its overloaded for my box ;) not in generall
[14:48] <holstein> i havent used puppy in a while
[14:48] <holstein> yeah, FF is probably still one of the heaviest
[14:48] <holstein> but, thats not why is running slow on a 600mhz with 256 of ram...
[14:48] <Unit193> But it's getting better, and it's the best
[14:49] <Unit193> Try midori/arora for that
[14:49] <xubuntu053> chrome.. also pretty good choise
[14:49] <holstein> yeah, midori is nice and light
[14:49] <holstein> opera used to run blazing fast on linux
[14:49] <xubuntu053> midori?
[14:49] <xubuntu053> browser?
[14:49] <holstein> !midori
[14:49] <Unit193> 600 w/356? Xubuntu won't run well, either AntiX, SliTaz, or Lubuntu
[14:49] <holstein> :/
[14:49] <Unit193> !info midori
[14:49] <xubuntu053> !g midori
[14:49] <drc> xubuntu053: You also might try Bodhi Linux...it's E17 on a ubuntu base...very minimal  http://www.bodhilinux.com/system.php
[14:52] <drc> E17 might take some getting used to, but it's darn pretty.
[15:15] <drc> Are "They" ever going to fix that irratating slowness in opening Thunar for the first time in a session?
[15:18] <Sysi> there's workaround, remove networking features (gvfs-plugins or something)
[15:19] <Sysi> personally I detest lag when deleting files more
[15:19] <drc> Sysi: That too :)
[15:19] <Sysi> *that* happens with quadcore and ssd too
[15:20] <drc> I never thought I'd say this, but this sort of stuff makes me wish for nautilus :(
[15:20] <Sysi> eww nautilus, dolphin is so much better
[15:20] <drc> Sysi: Yes, but I really don't want to pull half of the QT libraries with it
[15:21] <Sysi> you can't get more than 5GB root used by installing entire kde, xfce and gnome
[15:22] <drc> Sysi: It's not the space, it's the idea....
[15:22] <Sysi> or maybe 6GB nowdays, anyway
[15:22] <Sysi> drc: irony, I'm kind of running out of space in my root partition
[15:22] <drc> ah
[15:23] <Sysi> well, I'll reinstall when F16 is released
[15:24] <Sysi> I'm tempted to go with KDE :G
[15:41] <White--> hi, after I changed my monitor setup for 2 monitors (little different resolut) using randr, when moveing the mouse to the bottom of the screen, the starter bar does no longer come up
[15:41] <White--> Is there a way to get this working again?
[15:56] <[h4wk]> hi 2 all
[15:56] <[h4wk]> i have a problem :)
[15:58] <[h4wk]> Problem is with GTK
[15:58] <Sysi> White--: move panels to bigger screen
[16:00] <[h4wk]> Can somebody help me?
[16:00] <Sysi> no, you never told what's problem
[16:01] <Sysi> maybe, pop a question and see if someone has an ansver
[16:01] <[h4wk]> :D i will tell you :) I install new theme and activate it in appearence tool and GTK is not working in all apps
[16:02] <[h4wk]> how can I solve it to work in all
[16:02] <Sysi> 11.10? that theme propably doesn't have gtk3-theming, you can copy gtk3-part from greybird or some other theme that has it to make those apps look a little better
[16:03] <Sysi> or you just need to use theme that has gtk3 too
[16:03] <[h4wk]> these are gtk2, you are probably right :)
[16:06] <[h4wk]> Sysi you are right i copied GTK3 folder in some theme and I activate it and all apps that were not working are look like greybird :)
[16:06] <Sysi> kind of common problem nowdays
[16:07] <[h4wk]> And if I install some GTK3 theme it will work completely?
[16:09] <Sysi> it should, too bad there aren't too much complete themes; ubuntu default ambiance, gnome3 default adwaita, xubuntu default greybird and misc (buggy) themes at gnome-look.org
[16:09] <[h4wk]> Is there a way to make to work GTK2 theme or I must look only for GTK3?
[16:09] <[h4wk]> last question Sysi :)
[16:11] <steph7> hi where are driver hardware in xubuntu 11.04?
[16:11] <Sysi> [h4wk]: turning gtk2 theme into gtk3 theme basically means making new theme
[16:12] <[h4wk]> no no
[16:12] <[h4wk]> is there a chance to make it work gtk2 theme in 11.10 xubuntu?
[16:12] <Sysi> uhm no, you need both gtk2 and gtk3 part
[16:13] <[h4wk]> ok...tnx Sysi :)
[16:13] <drc> [h4wk]: They do work, with apps that aren't gtk3 compliant...other than that, no.
[16:13] <Sysi> steph7: unless you have brand new broadcom wifi or new ati graphics card, should work fine
[16:13] <Sysi> steph7: check with livecd/usb
[16:13] <Sysi> uhm where, basically in kernel
[16:14] <Sysi> just tell what doesn't work and how
[16:52] <drc> Anyone know of a fix for the sound icon in the indicator plugin UNmuting?  The popup bubble indicates the sound should be unmuted, but I must manually unmute the icon for the sound to work.
[16:53] <drc> I thought that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-indicator-plugin/+bug/852017 covered this (in theory), but the fix was commited and the behavior has continued.
[18:16] <aquant> hello. accidentally found nice picture https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=xubuntu-site.png
[18:37] <S_SubZero> grr still can't get xubuntu to connect smb to either win7 or OS X
[18:48] <GridCube> S_SubZero, installed gcfs-backends ?
[18:48] <GridCube> S_SubZero, installed gvfs-backends ?
[18:48] <S_SubZero> yeah I see the options in Gigolo but it throws errors connecting.
[18:49] <GridCube> well thats weird
[18:49] <GridCube> sadly i don't know much about samba :(
[18:50] <S_SubZero> the network browser in Thunar can see the OS X machine, both smb and afp, but neither works
[18:51] <S_SubZero> smb just asks for password into infinity
[18:51] <S_SubZero> oh wait suddenly it works.  @.@
[19:23] <MrBobbly> hello
[19:24] <GridCube> hello
[19:24] <MrBobbly> requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user
[19:24] <GridCube> ?
[19:24] <MrBobbly> can;t log in
[19:24] <GridCube> oh
[19:24] <knome> segmentation fault
[19:24] <MrBobbly> that;s the pam error
[19:24] <knome> quitting
[19:24] <knome> /quit
[19:24] <knome> ;)
[19:31] <MrBobbly> yeah that error is a showstopper
[19:31] <MrBobbly> anyone know of it?
[19:32] <MrBobbly> i think it's related to .gvdm or whatever that directory is called
[19:32] <MrBobbly> either way, if i can't find a fix asap then 11.10 goes back on the shelf
[19:33] <MrBobbly> and unfortunately linux gets another failing grade as a desktop
[19:35] <ToZ> MrBobbly: anything in ~/.xsession-errors of user account you are trying to login to?
[19:39] <MrBobbly> Setting IM through im-switch for locale=en_US.
[19:39] <MrBobbly> Start IM through /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/all_ALL linked to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default.
[19:39] <MrBobbly> /usr/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :1
[19:39] <MrBobbly> xrdb:  "Xft.hinting" on line 13 overrides entry on line 6
[19:39] <MrBobbly> xrdb:  "Xft.hintstyle" on line 14 overrides entry on line 7
[19:40] <MrBobbly> ssh-agent is already running
[19:40] <MrBobbly> xfce4-session: Unable to access file /home/adam/.ICEauthority: Input/output error
[19:40] <MrBobbly> ahh damn
[19:40] <MrBobbly> meant to paste this http://pastebin.com/EaKRfEmZ
[19:40] <MrBobbly> a meta-paste meta screwup
[19:42] <ToZ> Try deleting /home/adam/.ICEauthority (may need root permissions), then try again
[19:49] <xubuntu336> Hello, world!
[19:49] <knome> hey
[19:50] <MrBobbly> t ToZ that did the trick, ty
[19:50] <MrBobbly> can you shed some light as to why?
[19:50] <MrBobbly> i mean i was using the box last night
[19:50] <MrBobbly> shut down
[19:51] <MrBobbly> slept (i know, this step is risky)
[19:51] <MrBobbly> and then it just stopped working
[19:51] <xubuntu336> Yeah it is the first time i use the IRC service!
[19:51] <knome> xubuntu336, welcome
[19:51] <ToZ> MrBobbly: .iceauthority and .xauthority premission issues in 10.11 *buntus.
[19:52] <ToZ> Mr Bobbly: is yours a fresh xubuntu install or update/upgrade from previous version or ubuntu version?
[19:53] <ToZ> Mr Bobbly: don't think i've ever seen an official reason why? just fixes.
[19:53] <knome> many things changed in 11.10 anyway
[19:53] <knome> upgrades can always break
[19:58] <MrBobbly> it was a clean install 11.10
[19:59] <knome> there can be permission problems if you have enabled root account
[20:01] <olvin> Is there anybody who knows how to create applets for xfce panel?
[20:02] <well_laid_lawn> I'm sure there is
[20:04] <olvin> Yes i'm sure too =)
[20:04] <Boxman> hi, would someone be able to help me with a sound issue?
[20:05] <well_laid_lawn> Boxman: it'll probably depend on what the issue is
[20:06] <Boxman> point taken, okay,
[20:06] <Boxman> I just installed xubuntu 11.10 and my sound driver that worked in regular Ubuntu 11.10 has no audio output
[20:06] <Boxman> it's a stereo set to usb converter
[20:07] <Boxman> though I also have an lx-3000 microsoft headset if that might help for debugging
[20:07] <Boxman> neither of them work
[20:07] <well_laid_lawn> does it show in aplay -l or alsamixer -c 0  ?
[20:07] <GridCube> Boxman did you tried installing pavocontrol?
[20:07] <GridCube> pavucontrol
[20:08] <GridCube> gods im dyslexic today
[20:08] <Boxman> not yet, installing that now
[20:09] <GridCube> also do what well_laid_lawn said and a lspci and paste all the results on a pastebin
[20:09] <GridCube> now i gotta go :P
[20:09] <Boxman> oh hey, it works, I guess I just hadn't selected the driver properly
[20:09] <GridCube> :)
[20:09] <Boxman> thanks so much
[20:10] <GridCube> good to hear
[20:10] <GridCube> :)
[20:10] <olvin> =)
[20:10] <Boxman> =)
[20:10] <Boxman> see ya
[20:18] <azzi> sdf
[20:32] <mongy> Any netspeed like app for xfce?  I don't like the builtin one for the panel, need to hover it to see up/down speed.  Don't want to use conky.  Tried indicator-sysmonitor which I use in ubuntu but doesn't quite work properly.  Ideas? Just want something to sit in the panel to show me up/down speeds.
[21:16] <w30> mongy, w you settle for a netspeed applet from screenlets
[21:16] <w30> w/would
[21:42] <mongy> back.  I'd rather have it in the panel, like netspeed does it.  I am trying to stay away from anything on the desktop
[21:43] <well_laid_lawn> icons look so much better without a coloured background behind the text
[21:44] <mongy> I read there was something called xfapplet or some such that could add gnome2 applets to xfce panel, but never got it compiledd or working
[22:05] <w30> MrBobbly, check the premissions in your home directory especially .Xclients; Mine somehow got chaned to root ownership and stopprf gui cold.
[22:06] <w30> stopprf/stopped
[22:07] <w30> premissions/permissions   ...must be the vicodin
[22:10] <MisterQuebecois> Hello
[22:10] <w30> some in here said don't sudo or su -i to run a GUI. Use gksu <app> as a safer alternative
[22:13] <ball> Does Ubuntu come with a tool that would let me look for NFS shares on another host?
[22:13] <ball> s/Ubuntu/Xubuntu/
[23:32] <koszal> Hello all,  I've just upgraded from some old release of xubuntu to the new one and somehow I've managed to get lost gnome-volume-control-applet that is used to display volume control in panel.  Which package provided this?
[23:32] <zacarias> how do you install a new splash screen?
[23:36] <zacarias> never mind, I already know it
[23:55] <xubuntu244> ll
[23:56] <xubuntu244> wholy crap. one can chat on irc during xubuntu installation.