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nlsthzno/04:23
Guest7780hy05:51
* Kilos waves06:57
Kilosmorning superfly and you other few06:58
KilosMaaz, coffee on06:58
* Maaz washes some mugs06:58
Kiloshey nlsthzn 06:58
nlsthznGood morning Uncle Kilos :)06:58
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!07:02
KilosMaaz, ty07:02
MaazEnjoy Kilos07:02
Kiloshi Waceman 07:19
WacemanHey man07:19
WacemanHad a power failure yesterday07:19
Wacemanhow you doing?07:19
Kilosok ty07:20
Kiloswe had voda and mtn dead here07:20
Kilosvoda showed only one bar on cell but irc still worked07:20
Kilosbut all seems good today07:21
Wacemanwhat area are you in Kilos07:23
Kilosjust west of pretoria and you07:23
Kiloslo sdehaan 07:29
KilosWaceman, you gonna give up with that graphics card?07:31
Wacemannear Randburg (Johannesburg)07:31
Kilosah07:31
WacemanI also have bad signal07:31
Kilosbroadband?07:32
Kilosthe cellphone service providers have really got bad in the last few months07:32
KilosWaceman, i dont know what all you missed last night here. it didnt show you disconnected when the power went off there07:34
Kiloshad a few ideas but most likely crazy ideas07:35
Wacemanyeah, used to have a 3G here... but find ADSL much better value.07:42
Kilosare you uncapped07:43
WacemanI'm capped, but R29 a gig07:47
Wacemansometimes they give me an 2 gigs for the price of 107:48
WacemanDo you think I should upgrade to 11.10 and Gnome3 on my other computer (newer than the one giving problems)?07:49
Kilosok if you brave try get one of the other linux distributions and try get that graphics cards drivers the use alien in ubuntu to convert it to .deb07:49
* Waceman nVidia Legacy driver issues. Installed 71xx from nVidia website as this was the only pack which supports my GeForce 256 DDR. When my Ubuntu 10.04 reboots, screen flashes and gives error: (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so07:49
* Waceman (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (loader failed, 7)07:49
Wacemansorry07:49
Wacemanwrong channel ;)07:49
Kiloslol07:49
Wacemanwhat you think of Linux Mint?07:50
* nlsthzn thinks it is very green07:50
Kilosdoes the other pc work with lucid?07:50
KilosWaceman, if you can get to the nvidia forums you might find someone that can convert that .run driver to .deb for you then it should work07:53
Wacemanok07:55
Wacemanwhich one's lucid?07:55
Kilos10.0407:55
KilosMaaz, ubuntu releases07:55
MaazKilos: ubuntu releases are 4.10 (Warty Warthog), 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog), 5.10 (Breezy Badger), 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake), 6.10 (Edgy Eft), 7.04 (Feisty Fawn), 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon), 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron), 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex), 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope), 9.10 (Karmic Koala), 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx), 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat), 11.04 (Natty Narwhal), 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot)07:55
Kilosthats what you are musing now isnt it07:56
Kilos10.0407:56
Kilosnlsthzn, knows and plays with the other linuxes so he will know which use .rpm and .tar.gz07:57
* nlsthzn is a noob and shouldn't be trusted with power tools 07:58
Kiloslol07:58
Kilosha ha07:58
KilosAlien allows you to convert LSB, Red Hat, Stampede and Slackware Packages07:59
Kilosinto Debian packages, which can be installed with dpkg.08:00
* nlsthzn is having no joy with his VBox guest, slowest download speeds ever :'(08:00
Kilosthats not nice nlsthzn 08:00
Kiloseven the ahabs got hassles08:00
nlsthznKilos, I have never used Alien... so I can't comment on it but if I have choice I would use a PPA and secondly a deb specifically for the version of Ubuntu I am using08:01
nlsthznMy net speed is OK... I am able to download fine, but my guest OS in Vbox is struggling for some reason08:02
Kilosyes nlsthzn but we looking for a nvidia driver for a card that ubuntu doesnt support anymore08:02
nlsthznAFAIK most nvidia divers are backwards compatible so new drivers support older cards etc... (but then also only to a specific age I guess)08:03
Kilosso i thought if redhat LSB Stampede or slackware have a driver for it he can convert it to .deb and use on ubuntu08:03
Kilosyeah his n10 is no longer supported08:03
Kilosi have a n5 so not even gonna try get drivers08:04
Kilosv5 08:04
nlsthznI suspect that if flashy graphics isn't required the generic vesa driver should be enough...08:05
Kilosjust use with nouveau drivers08:05
Kiloshe wants the extra speed08:06
Kilosim used to a slow pc08:06
nlsthznWell, I hope he gets it sorted out then :)08:06
Kiloswhew08:07
KilosWaceman, how big is that .run driver08:11
Wacemanis' about 10 mb08:12
Kilosouch08:13
Kilosinstall alien then right click the driver and see if you can open/convert it with alien08:14
Kilosmaybe you lucky08:14
Kilosi used alien to convert a .tar.gz and it worked08:15
Kilosmost tools in ubuntu work08:15
Kiloshiya kbmonkey 08:24
Kiloslate nights in the big city wear you out hey?08:25
kbmonkeyhi Kilos 08:25
kbmonkeynope, I took trains and minibuses the whole day yesterday to cape city and walked quite a bit :)08:26
Wacemanthanks Kilos08:26
kbmonkeyokay not whole day, half a day08:26
Kiloslol08:26
kbmonkeyhows alpine working out for you nuvolari? wonder if it does rss08:27
Kiloshe still sleeping, or checking out chicks onna beach08:27
kbmonkeyit's pouring here whole morning.08:27
kbmonkeylike yesterday, but by 10am it was blue skies08:28
Wacemankbmonkey: what area in ct do you stay?08:28
kbmonkeyI am in Obz atm08:28
Kiloslotsa rain in that place08:28
kbmonkeytomorrow I'm moving into a new place, I think Rondebosch08:28
KilosOBz?08:28
Kilosoh08:29
Kiloshope its better08:29
kbmonkeyobservatory08:29
kbmonkeywell it's cheaper! staying in backpackers isn't cost effecctive08:29
Kilosdid you check first if you get internet connection there08:29
kbmonkeyno08:30
Kiloslol08:30
WacemanI used to train at planet fitness in claremont... ;p08:30
Kilosshould be the first thing you check even before if the floor is clean or not08:30
Wacemanhaha08:30
kbmonkeyno Kilos, I've stayed in some dingy places and believe you me I'm tired of dirty floors ;)08:31
WacemanIs there a way to make an iso of one's current OS setup? Cuz I want to play with something, and if it breaks would like to revert back?08:31
kbmonkeyopted for nice house mate with garden and open plan kitchen. I'm a geek, I will *always* find internet no matter what!08:31
kbmonkeyyes Waceman you can make a live CD from your current system08:32
kbmonkeybut its purpose is for something else. rather make a system backup that you can restore08:32
Kilosyes there is wace08:32
Kilosre something or other08:32
Kilosremastersys08:32
kbmonkeymaking a live cd is more complicated than what you need Waceman, rather go for backups08:33
Wacemanok08:33
kbmonkeylinux is nice because you can literally clone your hard drive bit-by-bit to a file, and restore it just the same as if nothing happened08:34
Kilosyeah kbmonkey but its the trying to get away from broadband thats important08:34
Wacemankbmonkey: how do I do this backup? ;)08:34
kbmonkeylets see Waceman 08:34
Kilosyou get spare drive Waceman 08:35
Kilosexternal maybe08:35
kbmonkeydo you have a external drive with space equals to your disk08:35
Kiloslol08:35
Wacemanyup08:35
kbmonkeylol08:35
Kilosrsync08:35
Kiloswhat is on the external08:35
Wacemandata ;)08:36
Kiloswhat does thepc see the drive as08:36
Kilosi have got the command to suit my external08:37
Kilossudo rsync -av /var/cache/apt/archives/ /media/storage/packs/08:38
Kilosmade a storage partition on the external08:38
Kilosthat will save all the packages you have downloaded so far08:39
Kilosthen a smallish partition called backup08:39
Kilossudo rsync -av /home/ /media/backup/home/08:41
Kilosi hope i havent missed anything08:41
Kiloslemme just connect external and check08:41
Waceman ok thanks08:42
Kilosi think you have to manually make the packs and the home folders on the external then just give the right paths08:43
Kilosyw08:43
Kilosmaybe you can just make home and packs folders on the external without partitioning the external08:44
Kilosshould be able to and then just put the right path in the command08:44
Kilosthen when you clean install again you reverse the commands and run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade08:45
Kilosi ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade as well i think08:47
Kilosthen you should have you system close to what it was before08:47
* kbmonkey is back08:57
Kiloskbmonkey, wb08:57
kbmonkeyWaceman, dd is a command that copies to and from disks and files08:58
Kilosi gave him rsync kb08:59
kbmonkeyno08:59
Kilosdidnt you see08:59
kbmonkeyrsync synchronizes two directories08:59
kbmonkeyi saw, but not recommended08:59
Kilosok i show you what i gave him08:59
Kilossudo rsync -av /var/cache/apt/archives/ /media/storage/packs/09:00
Kilosto save all downloaded packages09:00
Kilossudo rsync -av /home/ /media/backup/home/09:00
kbmonkeywhy only downloaded packages? he needs to backup his entire system09:00
Kilosand that for home backup09:00
Kilosthat first one copies everything in cache09:01
Kilosarchives i mean09:01
Kilosthe after new install you reverse the commands and update upgrade09:01
kbmonkeyand what about root / ?09:02
kbmonkeythe system files09:02
Kilosi dunno09:03
Kilosdid it here and only used data to get update09:03
Kilosbetween 20 and 40m i think it was09:03
kbmonkeybecause if the system files change, you need to backup those too ;)09:03
Kilosi suppose you can rsync root too09:04
Kilosnever done that09:04
kbmonkeynot quite, /proc /sys and /dev are special files09:04
kbmonkeyit works, but you need to know how to handle those09:04
Kilosdoes the dd command do all that09:04
kbmonkeybut for one command that clones your drive to a file, dd is king09:05
kbmonkeyrsync was used to tape backups, home files etc09:05
Kilosok look at my command and make it a dd command and i try that next time i install09:05
kbmonkeyis it ubuntuforums.com or .org?09:06
kbmonkeyyou can clone your entire drive, reformat, install a completely new OS, and at the end of the day, restore your cloned drive like nothing has changed09:07
kbmonkeyI'll find a good link... :D09:07
Wacemankewl :)09:07
Kilosok give the command09:08
Kilosfull command with path to my external09:08
kbmonkeyrsync is great to backup /home because it only copies files that changed, so it's quick. dd takes longer, but it's more failsafe09:08
WacemanI found a page on dd09:08
Wacemanbut I don't really want to back up and restore 120GBs09:09
kbmonkeyrsync you need to consider file ownerships and permissions. dd just copies everything as is09:09
kbmonkeyoh, is your / not on it's own partition?09:09
Kilosi only used dd once to clean everything off a drive with faulty boot sector and make it like a new drive09:10
kbmonkeyI dd my 120gb often, lol09:10
Kiloswhew09:10
WacemanI have nothing on my system... the only cost is time... to re install it from the CD... and then Bandwidth to download all the updates (about 150mb)09:11
kbmonkeyhow many hard drives in your machine wace? you can backup to a second hard disk, much quicker09:11
Kilosrsync will save the bandwidth09:12
kbmonkeyyes thats where Kilos's cmd saves bandwidth! the right tool for right job :D09:12
kbmonkeygive us the link to that rsync page you found?09:13
Kilosi dont use more than 40m for the sudo apt-get update09:13
Kilosman rsync09:13
Kilosi got it all from inetpro09:13
Kilosi didnt know how to work out the paths09:14
Kilosor what must go where09:14
Kilosand the rsync of home even remembers you contacts in pidgin and evolution etc09:14
Kilosworks very kiff09:15
Kilosthere is also a backup tool called dejadup09:16
Kilosbut the rsyncs of home and archives works kiff09:16
kbmonkeyit sounds like he wants to try system changes, so needs a system backup, not just a data backup09:17
Kilosoh09:18
Kilosi dunno if the others use home09:18
Kilosonly used ubuntu09:18
kbmonkeyothers?09:19
Kiloslike mint or centOS etc09:19
Kilosother distros09:20
kbmonkeyWaceman http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/ddcommand.htm09:20
kbmonkeysee how to do a full hard disk copy09:20
kbmonkeyyou can also only copy a partition, so if your / is separate you can only backup that09:20
kbmonkeybe warned, double check your commands! :)09:21
Wacemankbmonkey: someone on the Ubuntu channel said I should have everything with ubuntu in it uninstalled09:21
WacemanI only had nvidia-common and modeliasis - which as far as the descriptions read, say it's for detecting which card I have and finding the right drivers...09:22
Wacemanso I've removed them all. .and I'm tempted to install the 71xx drivers again... but if it doesn't work, then I have to reformat everything09:22
Kiloseish09:23
Wacemansorry, ^^ everything with nVidia uninstalled09:23
Kilosah09:24
Kiloswhew09:24
KilosWaceman, when you boot do you get options to do recovery09:25
Wacemanya, "graphical safe mode"09:25
Kilosyou can do recovery from an earlier on09:25
kbmonkeysee that link Waceman, that will backup/restore your entire disk09:25
kbmonkeydo it over night, from a live CD, to an external09:25
kbmonkeythen you can try the 71xx drivers :)09:25
kbmonkeyif it breaks, boot the live Cd again, and restore your system to before09:26
Wacemanquicker to just redo everything ;)09:26
kbmonkeyuse the bs=8M option, to copy chunks of 8MB09:27
Wacemanthis installer says I must remove nouveau 09:27
kbmonkeybrb09:28
Kilosmaybe nouveau conflicts09:28
Wacemanya I think it does09:28
Kiloshow did you remove nvidia 09:29
Wacemanwith synaptic09:32
Kilosdo you have aptitude installed09:33
Kilosi use the aptitude purge command09:34
Wacemanoooh awwww... I'm removing some nouveau thing and it seems to be wiping out my entire system....09:34
Kilosok my desktop09:34
Kiloslo SubOracle wb09:35
kbmonkeyWaceman when you remove a package and it tells you 'we need to remove these too', make sure 'ubuntu-desktop' is not in the list!09:36
Wacemanlol - this is going to be dramatic!09:37
Kilosyeah i done that too. very frightening09:37
KilosWaceman, can you get a terminal if you ctrl+alt+f209:39
Wacemanya... still uninstalling everything. I don't want to interrupt it09:39
Kilosok if screen blank afterwards get in terminal and install ubuntu-desktop09:40
Wacemanok thanks09:40
Kilosgeez kbmonkey thats frightening when the desktop disappears like that hey09:41
Kiloshave you done it09:41
Wacemanwhoooopa! There goes the desktop09:42
kbmonkeynot that I remember, but I probably did worse lol09:42
Kiloslol09:43
kbmonkey... and that is why you read what dialogs tells you, _especially_ when running commands as ROOT!09:43
Kilosi have done it twice in synaptic by just glancing through what synaptic says it must remove09:43
Wacemanwhat's that full command Kilos: ubuntu-desktop?09:44
Kilosyeah i have learned the hard way09:44
kbmonkeyI don't use synaptic, because it hides that list of items from initial view09:44
Wacemannow it wants to download like 100mbs09:44
Kilossudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop09:44
Wacemanthat's what I did09:44
Kilosoh my09:44
kbmonkeyWaceman it probably needs to download because installing from the CD does not cache the setup files on your PC09:45
Wacemanreformat09:45
kbmonkeydo you have the CD?09:45
Wacemanyes09:45
Kilosdoes it not use the packages in the archives?09:45
Wacemangonna reboot and reinstall09:45
Wacemandunno09:45
kbmonkeykewl :)09:45
Kiloswhew09:45
kbmonkeyapt-cdrom can add the cd to your archives09:45
KilosWaceman, did you do the rsyncs to external09:45
kbmonkeybut just reinstall if you keen :)09:46
Wacemannope ;)09:46
Kiloseish09:46
kbmonkeyyou have no files on that install anyway right?09:46
Kilosalways save all packages then you dont need to download them again09:46
kbmonkeywhere do they live again Kilos ?09:46
Kilospta09:47
kbmonkey/var/cache/apt/archives?09:47
Kilosya thats it09:47
kbmonkeywow I have 880MB of archives! o_O09:47
Kilossave all of that with the rsync command09:47
Kilossaves stacks09:47
Kilosi got 2g09:48
Kiloshalf are unneccesary i suppose but at least they dont need to be downloaded again09:48
kbmonkeyif I get hold of the repos Kilos i'll send them to you on dvd ;)09:48
Kilosty kbmonkey 09:49
Kiloswill get my sons pc to install them with09:49
Kilosdo you know the link to get the repos09:49
Kilosthen ian can get them at work09:50
Kilosi dont have a dvdrom on here pc too slow09:50
kbmonkeyi don't, check ubuntu wiki they tell you where to get them09:51
Kilosbut ian comes to visit every few months and if he can get the link to get the repos then it wont cost at all09:51
kbmonkeyftp.is.co.za more than likely mirrors it, as Symmetria 09:51
Kilosi looked but cant figure out what to get09:52
Kilosthere nothing saying repos09:54
Kilosits a site for clever guys09:55
Kilosbut you paying for bandwidth so dont use it for repos. there aremany gigs one never uses09:55
kbmonkeyyou probably looking in the wrong place. its just like being an investigator, P.I. Kilos on the job!09:57
kbmonkeysearch the wiki.ubuntu09:57
Kiloslol ya but its data gone everytime you change pages so i couldnt get the right link09:57
kbmonkeywhose data?09:58
Kilosmine while trying to find the repos so i could give ian the right link09:59
kbmonkeysorry I don't understand what you mean :)10:00
Kiloslike if you go look for the repos10:00
Kiloswhat you want isnt on the first page10:00
kbmonkeyI'm still confused what you mean Kilos, sorry10:08
kbmonkeyperhaps google can help you?10:08
Kilosi wanted to give him the link directly to repo download as he hasnt got time at work to look through strange stuff10:08
Kilosgoogle not my friend10:09
Kiloslol10:09
kbmonkeyarg, why does ftp say illegal port command when I ls :(10:11
kbmonkeysorry Kilos I cant help you because my ftp is being a little naf10:12
Kilosnp kbmonkey ty10:12
kbmonkeytry ftp into ftp.is.co.za they should have the repo mirror there10:12
kbmonkeythere's no single file download afaik10:13
kbmonkeyits more a collection of files 10:13
Kiloswill get ian to stay after work one night and try figure it out10:13
kbmonkeyjust ftp them, its easy10:13
Kilosftp?10:13
kbmonkeythen you use one of the apt- commands to add them to your local archives10:14
kbmonkeyMaaz define ftp10:14
Maazkbmonkey: ftp \ftp\, FTP \FTP\([e^]f`t[=e]*p[=e]"), prop. v. t. [imp. & p. p. {ftp'd} or {FTP'd} ([e^]f`t[=e]*p[=e]d"); p. pr. & vb. n. {FTPing} or {ftp'ing} or {ftp-ing} ([e^]f`t[=e]*p[=e]"[i^]ng).] [acronym from File Transfer Protocol.] (Computers) To send from one computer to another by means of the standard file transfer protocol (ftp); as, he ftp'd me the file yesterday. [acronym]  Note: The participle forms have not been standardized,10:14
Kilosoh my10:14
kbmonkeywow there is more pronunciation than explanation. thanks maaz10:15
Kiloslol10:15
kbmonkeyif you type ftp10:15
kbmonkeyyou can connect to a remote pc and transfer files to/from it10:15
Kilosbut voda will still use data10:16
Kilosnow im lost10:16
kbmonkeysure10:16
kbmonkeybut is hosts mirrors via ftp protocol10:16
Kilosyou mean ian must ftp it10:16
kbmonkeyim just saying this so ian knows where to look10:17
Kilosbut he on win710:17
kbmonkeyask ubuntu10:17
kbmonkeyno probs :)10:17
Kilos2 years ago a guy got me 20g of repos from a varsity in pta10:18
Kilosdunno how he did it10:18
Kilostook all for karmic i think it was10:18
Kilosdidnt need to do file by file10:19
kbmonkeyfile by file? no need for that, ftp can copy all files at once10:19
Kilosaw wacedied10:20
Kiloswill ask ian to look at that site ty kbmonkey hopefully he can work it out for ocelot repos10:20
Kilos<kbmonkey> where do they live again Kilos ?10:23
Kiloswhose they10:23
Kilosill be back tonight. be good guys10:43
* nlsthzn is an id 10 t11:26
kbmonkeyerror11:27
kbmonkeyPEBKAC error11:27
kbmonkeycan't be as bad as RIM going down for days ;D11:28
Guest6837what is ubuntu?12:53
nlsthzn:)13:07
bakumannow Guest6837 will never know13:10
KilosWaceman, you winning14:15
Kilos?14:15
WacemanHey Kilos... I was installing 10.04 again and on 90% got another power failure... Then went to my gran for lunch ;p14:15
Wacemanso now I'm on 58% ;)14:15
Kiloseish14:16
Kilosgrans always make lekker chow14:16
Wacemanhaha indeed!14:18
WacemanShe said I needed to deb that .run file and then modulise the linux headers to a kernel  version of 2.6xx and then use the defibulator to expand the inner vortex of the millenial quantum division... i.e., throw the pc out the window14:21
Kiloslol14:22
Kilosjust run if with default graphics14:23
Wacemanbingo!  haha14:23
WacemanI think that's been the solution all along...14:23
Kilosand you running 10.04 on your other pc too hey?14:24
WacemanI've got a laptop and and a pc... laptop is this one, it's got 11.04 on it.. it flies! pc is the old beast, with 10.04 being installed on it14:25
Kilosah14:25
WacemanThe only thing that pulls me back to windows is Office... but I'm sure you can run that with wine right?14:26
Kiloswhats wrong with libreoffice14:26
Wacemaneish, it's ugly ;)14:26
Kilosor openoffice14:26
Wacemanok boet, I'm going for a run.. chat soon!14:27
Kiloslol what do you do with office14:27
Kiloscheers14:27
* bakuman hates libre + openoffice as well14:33
Kilosevening all16:25
bakumanhi16:26
* bakuman hates libre + openoffice as well16:26
Kilosoh my16:26
bakumanoffice + wine16:26
bakumanit takes long so open and the spreadsheet is useless16:27
Kilosthen you have to have the ms office cd hey?16:27
bakumanyea16:27
bakumanbut al least it works16:28
Kilosand its so cheap16:28
Kilosi actually have 2003 and 2007 here on external but never use office16:29
Kilosthats for clever pepeps16:29
Kilospeeps16:29
Kilosand office jacks16:29
bakumani got office 2010 for R200, but havent installed it yet16:30
Kilosand businessmen as well i suppose16:30
bakumani use latex mostly now anyway16:30
Kilosif i disappear donder and bliksem killed me16:33
Kilosor vodacom at least16:33
Kilosbetter get some coffee quick16:34
KilosMaaz, coffee on16:34
* Maaz flips the salt-timer16:34
KilosMaaz, coffee for all16:34
MaazCome on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already16:34
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!16:38
* bakuman sluit nader om die koffie te steel16:38
* bakuman gryp die koffie en hardloop16:38
nuvolario/ howdy17:04
* nuvolari sit bakuman agterna en steel die koffie terug17:06
bakumantoo bad dis al lankal op..17:07
bakumanof is dit...17:07
* bakuman hardloop verder bet die regte koffie wat onder sy baadjie weg gesteek was17:08
nuvolarilol17:09
nuvolariok fine! ek sal maar my roomys eet17:09
bakuman:(17:10
nuvolariek kan dit deel as jy die koffie sal deel?17:10
bakumanok... :\17:12
Kiloslong power off17:49
inetproyikes17:54
inetprojulle ouens praat hond uit 'n bos uit17:54
Kiloslo inetpro 17:54
inetprogoeienaand Kilos17:54
inetproand good evening everyone else17:54
inetproMaaz: coffee on17:54
* Maaz puts the kettle on17:54
KilosMaaz, coffee please17:55
MaazKilos: Sure17:55
WacemanKilos: Coffee Plz17:56
Kiloslol17:56
Kilosask maaz man17:56
Kiloshe the coffee bot17:56
Wacemanguess what... I removed all nvidia drivers... and nouveau, and restart and my screen boots into a higher resolution17:56
Kiloshurry Waceman you get 4 mins then you too late17:56
inetprosjoe17:57
Kiloswow17:57
WacemanMaaz, coffee please17:57
MaazWaceman: Done17:57
Wacemanusing nv driver set17:57
Kilosis that old driver installed Waceman 17:57
Wacemannot 3D support though17:57
nuvolariah, people r back17:57
Wacemanthat old driver still didn't work17:57
WacemanI don't think there's support for it17:57
Kiloslo nuvolari 17:57
* nuvolari skep vir bakuman roomys in en wag vir sy koffie17:58
nuvolari:P17:58
nuvolarihallo oom kilos!17:58
MaazCoffee's ready for inetpro, Kilos and Waceman!17:58
KilosMaaz, thanks man17:59
MaazKilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)17:59
inetproMaaz: thanks17:59
Maazinetpro: Okay :-)17:59
inetproKilos: hoe gaan dit?17:59
Kilosgoed dankie inetpro en daar18:00
inetprohmm... been a busy weekend so far18:00
inetprowill need the week to rest so I can be ready for the next one18:01
Kiloslol18:02
Kilosthats a change18:02
inetproKilos: heh, way to much rush in life, time to slow down18:03
nuvolariditto. for me, time to slow down and get a lady18:04
Kiloslol18:04
nuvolari:-/ unfortunately it sounds easier than it is for me18:08
Kiloslife can be hard on a single man18:11
KilosWaceman, then just leave it on default18:16
Wacemanyeah I think that's the best18:16
Kilosor invest in a graphics card if you really want it better\18:16
Kilosas i say my card is older than yours  but you get used to things a bit slow18:16
Kilosyour lappy is spoiling you18:17
Kilosyou should try a p3 with 512m ram and gprs18:17
Kiloswill slow things down a bit for you18:18
Kilossigh power failures suck19:23
bakuman:(19:25
Kilosmaybe nother one coming. raining quite hard19:26
Kilosinetpro, reen dit daar ook19:26
Kilosi didnt even get to drink my coffee and the power died19:27
KilosMaaz, coffee on19:27
* Maaz starts grinding coffee19:27
KilosMaaz, hurry19:28
MaazHey! Kilos Patience is a virtue, 19:28
KilosMaaz, virtue19:28
MaazVirtue is a grace19:28
KilosMaaz, grace19:28
MaazA naughty little brat that would'nt wash her face19:28
inetproKilos: klaar gereen hier19:30
Kilosaan en af hier en elke keer wat die weerlig klap gaan die krag af19:31
Kilosgrrr19:31
inetproeish19:31
inetproons het Vrydag aand deurgeloop19:31
Kiloshow lyk jou groente19:31
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!19:31
KilosMaaz, ty19:32
MaazEnjoy Kilos19:32
inetproKilos: die groente lyk pragtig19:32
Kilosmielies ook19:32
Kilos??19:32
inetproKilos: groener as wanneer ek ureum gooi19:32
Kilosreen is selle ding19:33
Kilosstikstof19:33
inetproyep, te lekker19:33
Kiloshoe like die mielies wat geslaan was19:33
Kilos??19:33
Kiloslyk19:33
inetpronee wat, alles weer mooi19:33
Kilosmooi19:34
inetprodie mielies was darem nog klein19:34
inetprogroei vinnig daar uit19:34
Kilosek bly vir jou19:34
inetpronet die wind was so bietjie erg Vrydag nag19:35
Kilosja baie19:35
inetprobaie bloeisels en klein vruggies uitgedun19:35
inetproavokados, neute en litjies19:36
Kiloseish19:36
inetpromaar miskine goed so19:36
inetpromiskien19:36
Kiloslol19:36
Kilosnee man avos is nooit genoeg nie19:36
inetprominder vrugte beteken groter vrugte19:37
Kilosgewoonlik ja19:37
inetproen gesonder 19:37
inetpronet die sterkes bly oor19:37
Kilossurvival of the fittest19:37
inetpronet so19:38
Kilosfamielie almal gesond daar?19:38
inetpromag nie kla nie19:38
Kilosmooi19:38
inetpronet die kar wat so bietjie siek is en my moed in my skoene laat sak19:39
Kiloseish19:39
inetprogasket geblaas, valves los, ens, ens19:39
Kiloseina19:39
inetproag wat, daar's 'n ou wat weet hoe om die ding weer piekfyn te kry19:40
inetprodie wet van transvaal is ongelukkig nog hier om te bly19:41
Kilosja19:41
Kilosen murphy is nooit ver nie19:42
inetproweet nie hoekom het hulle hom nie getransformeer nie19:42
Kilosas dit kan verkeerd loop , sal dit19:42
Kilosons moet die vent slag19:42
inetprovir seker19:42
Kiloshehe19:42
inetproKilos: hier begin dit nou weer reen19:47
Kilosons het die water nodig19:48
Kilosdit was darem droog gewees19:48
inetprobaie19:48
Kiloslo Guest3987 19:51
nuvolariKilos: oom, you musnt scare them off20:12
nuvolari:P20:12
Kiloswho nuvolari 20:12
Kilosoh lol20:12
Kiloswb Waceman 20:12
nuvolario/ g'night20:13
Wacemanthanks20:13
Kilosnight nuvolari 20:14
bakuman:(20:26
Kiloswassup bakuman 20:26
bakumanfinishing up report, wil probably finish at about 03:0020:27
Kilosouch20:27
bakumanyea, has to be in at 12:00 tomorrow20:28
Kilosgood luck20:28
Kilosdrink lotsa coffee so you dont fall asleep20:29
bakumanhaha yea20:32
Kilosnight all sleep tight20:34
nlsthznNight all (those still awake :p)21:39

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