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Aleoplatzhirsch, open the program, then the icon will be there, use right mouse and set Keep in Launcher00:00
WaltherFIjalal: BT is not officially supported here, sorry00:00
jalalno brother i m not using bt00:00
jalali m using simple ubuntu00:01
jalali leave bt00:01
ghostnik11i have this file cdrtools-3.01a06.tar.gz which i got to install when i had ubuntu 11.04 and it allowed me to burn everything like cue image files to cds i want to install it back again on now this time ubuntu 11.1000:01
platzhirschAleo: I tried this already. It's for Eclipse, I unpacked it into my home folder, but it cannot be startet afterwards from the Launcher00:01
Aleoplatzhirsch, I don't know then ....00:01
jalalany one solve my problem?00:02
zeraccajalal -> if you have a laptop, you might need to switch on wireless using the FN key00:02
jalalmy wifi light blinking00:02
yagoojalal, lsmod|grep b43 ?00:02
yagoojalal, did u try modprobe ssb?00:02
jalallsmod nothing gving00:03
yagoojalal, modprobe ssb ?00:03
firmevatoin ubuntu 10.04, all of a sudden my 10 punch number keys no longer print numbers, even when I use the number lock key. the arrows actually move my mouse cursor around the screen. how can I change it back to print numberS???00:03
Aleoplatzhirsch, when you install by software center, there is an option also to put it on the launcher00:03
jalalyagoo do you prv8 email id?00:03
firmevatoand pressing 5 is like a right click??00:03
firmevatoi'm so confused righ tnow00:03
heyitseric!unity00:04
ubottuUnity is the default UI since Ubuntu 11.04.  Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. For a GNOME 2-like experience, see !notunity00:04
syrahmm, well 11.10 looks like a really nice OS, i'll keep it aside for when i can afford a new notebook :]00:04
heyitseric!nounity00:04
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic00:04
dewannahmmm00:05
dewannais this the only chat room00:05
p1oooopdewanna: nope.00:06
beeriosOk... anyone feeling particularly helpful today?00:06
randomusrif I have two kernels available, could I install a different video driver for each?00:06
dewannahow do you change rooms00:07
beerioswith the /join command dewanna00:07
p1oooopdewanna: /join <somechanngel>00:07
p1oooop*channel00:07
p1oooopfor example...00:07
p1oooop /join ##hardware00:07
* beerios is trying to put ubuntu onto a phone. Or more accurately, chroot into an ubuntu installation. Who's feeling particularly helpful today?00:08
firmevatomy OS is Ubuntu 10.04.   My 10-punch keys are moving my mouse around my screen instead of typing numbers, even after pressing the NumLock key. How can I switch it back to print numbers instead of moving my mouse???00:08
p1oooopbeerios: chroot into ubuntu on a phone? 0.o00:08
stanmalaHi, I've got a eeepc1001HA with a Ralink RT3090 wifi card, running Ubuntu 11.10. I managed to run a specific driver compiled for 11.04, but now iwconf doesn't show my card & my wifi module doesn't appear on lsmod. Any suggestions, please ?00:09
beeriosyeah00:09
yagoojalal, I'm not able to help you. Your english is not at the level we can understand each other. Sorry.00:09
p1oooopbeerios: sounds possible.00:09
jalali will try to  speak clear00:09
p1oooopbeerios: what's your phone's arch?00:09
firmevatoand then when I use the touchpad again, the mouse starts off in the bottom right corner at the trash bin?00:09
beeriosI know it can be done, p1oooop, others have already done it. My only problem is that I don't have a valid ext2.ko module to insmod, and I need someone with the patience to talk me through making one or making one for me00:09
zykotick9firmevato, turn off "Mouse Keys" probably in Accessibility options somewhere.00:10
platzhirschAleo: yep, thank you :)00:10
p1oooopbeerios: sorry, but I'm not the most patient person :P00:10
yagoojalal, Your native language is not english. I suggested joining a conference of people speaking your native language.00:10
jalalyagoo please brother00:10
jalali can speak00:10
firmevatozykotick9, thank you00:10
jalalbrother just guide me what should i do for my wifi?00:10
* yagoo asked jalal what was the last line of his paste. < and couldn't understand this concept -- "last line of" meant00:11
wozzanyone good with vnc server configs?  can't get any sort of taskbar/menus to show up when connecting to my 11.10 tightvncserver00:11
nsd_I have a wireless device that seems to only send packets at a rate of once per minute. It's brand new, and I don't think I had the issue prior to upgrading (it's not my machine, but being the designated Linux nerd of the house, I'm responsible for fixing it)00:11
p1oooopbeerios: so, you need to install a module on the android kernel?00:11
beeriosmy phone's processor is an MT6516. Architecture is "armv5tejl" according to something I did.00:11
jalalbrother you give me command00:11
jalalso i got following out put00:11
jalalso i paste in here00:11
jalalso i am confuse00:12
grisenhi chocolates00:12
firmevatozykotick9, I found it and fixed it, thank you very much.00:12
firmevatoI have no idea how I accidentally turned on mouse keys tho00:12
jalalok yagoo sorry to disturb you00:12
jalalhave a nice day00:12
jalalbye00:12
Madpilotjalal, don't paste here, please. Paste to a pastebin, then just give us the pastebin URL.00:13
p1oooopfirmevato: lots of people do things unintentionally. eg: me.00:13
Madpilotubottu, pastebin | jalal00:13
ubottujalal: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.00:13
p1oooopI remember deleting the entire OS once... oops.00:13
p1ooooprm -R / is never a good idea.00:13
jalalok brother i got it00:13
jalali was just hoping that you guys will help me00:13
beeriosSomething like that, p1oooop. I was hoping a linux whiz could help me with it. I don't need to have it automatically load during boot, I have root on the phone and busybox on it, and a terminal emulator, and the android debugger on my PC... If I can just get an ext2.ko that'll load when I try to insmod it, I'll be able to mount ext2 partitions, and I'll be all set to figure the rest out from there :)00:13
jalali was wrong00:14
syra'if you don't know what your looking for, you wont find it and if you don't know where you're going, i can't help you' ~Anonymous00:14
jalali have to go00:14
jalalbye00:14
drfrenzyany one can help with firefox fonts?00:14
yagoobeerios, that's a grub issue.. by default u should always have ext2/3/4 grub support (grub2 has its own module system)-- u may ask #grub for this -- you're asking advanced things00:15
p1oooopbeerios: I'm not necessarily a linux wiz, but I do have a little experience with modules... The only thing I that I don't know how to compile them separately from the linux kernel... nor do I know how to import them into android...00:15
beerioshrm00:15
beeriosI'll ask around again with the Android people... That was my first stop a couple of days ago, but it didn't get me anywhere... yet :P00:16
p1oooopwow. that's... awful.00:16
joaobeerios, you may want to get into the devs irc channel search google00:16
yagoobeerios, there's a whole android community out there.. dunno why you're asking here..00:16
drfrenzyguyyysss any one can help with firefox fonts?00:16
vvordrfrenzy: what is the Q.?00:16
* p1oooop hasn't messed with firefox before. the defalt settings keep me satiated.00:17
beeriosyagoo, the android community was my first stop, I couldn't seem to get anyone's attention00:17
p1oooophold up a giant sign asking for help there... LOL00:17
beerioslol00:17
joaobeerios, google then00:17
beeriosI've been googling it for a week00:17
yagoobeerios, gimme a break.00:17
joaowhich brings me to my recent appalling discovery00:18
yagoopff00:18
stanmalaissue with my wifi card on 11.10, any help please ?... :-)00:18
yagoosure u have..00:18
beeriosI don't know enough to go compiling kernels and stuff unless someone can walk me through it step by step00:18
yagooandroid is created by google..00:18
joaoI think I am being constantly monitored00:18
yagoojeesh00:18
Aleoplatzhirsch, are you there ?00:18
yagoostanmala, and what chipset00:18
joaoI was about 2 months or so without using google00:18
beeriosand I really don't want to go compiling a new kernel and probably turning my phone into a brick. I just want to get a kernel module that'll load when I try to load it with insmod :)00:19
joaoand suddenly my search results are completely different00:19
haylo-bot_there is a good walkthrough on you tube for making kernel using a gui in linux mint- i forgot the name of the tool but i am sure you can DL it in ubuntu it is three parts and easy to find00:19
stanmalaRalink RT3090 on a netbook (Asus Eeepc 1001HA)00:19
joaogetting a redirected page all the time00:19
Aleoplatzhirsch, try open dash, then type main menu, it should appear an icon, click and then it opens a window to edit the programs you want to launch00:19
stanmalayagoo, Ralink RT3090 on a netbook (Asus Eeepc 1001HA)00:19
joaothought there isn't spyware in linux ;)00:19
Candymanhello all00:20
platzhirschAleo: yes, I found this already. Funny thing is (NOT) when I use the buttons nothings happens00:20
platzhirschwhen I start this tool (alacarte) via terminal, I get some nasty errors00:20
CandymanI have a question.00:20
Aleostrange00:20
yagoostanmala, (use sudo as nec), lsmod |grep rt3090sta00:20
platzhirschGuess I have to figure out how to fix these errors :)00:21
p1oooop!ask > Candyman00:21
ubottuCandyman, please see my private message00:21
beeriosI was going to try using the ext2.ko from jaunty for ARM, but then I don't know whether I would want the dove or i.mx51 version. I couldn't find an answer on the ubuntu forums about it, either. The only people asking were mistaken and actually just needed the i386 version. But I know I have an ARMv5 cpu in my phone, so...00:21
p1oooopbeerios: hm, what compiler is android compiled by?00:21
beeriosI really don't know about that stuff, p1oooop00:22
CandymanHow can I add software to the ubuntu customization kit which is outside from the synaptic? (sorry for my english)00:22
p1oooopbeerios: darn.00:22
yagoobeerios, #1 You have to know your hardware INSIDE-OUT. #2- You need to do your homework with an ARM-training book.  You can't do anything without knowing #1.00:22
* p1oooop assumes GCC00:22
beerioserrr00:22
yagooerrrr < nope. You learn. Go read a book about your hardware.00:22
Aleoanyway, hope they launch soon Ubuntu 12.000:22
Aleo:)00:22
JeruvyNext year ;)00:23
platzhirschwhy?00:23
joaobeerios, what is the purpose of your hacking? I did a couple of crazy things just for the fun of it but it was ages ago00:23
p1oooopAleo: 12.4 ;)00:23
beerioslook, I just want to be able to mount ext2 partitions to start with... I know I need an ext2.ko that doesn't fail when I try to load it with insmod00:23
stanmalayagoo, no answer on sudo lsmod |grep rt3090sta00:23
Aleoor that00:23
Aleo:)00:23
platzhirschI mean 12 is a nice number, buts not even odd00:23
p1oooopor was it .4... hm00:23
platzhirsch"not even odd" hilarious00:23
yagoostanmala, modprobe rt3090sta, then ..00:23
p1oooopI forgot when ubuntu makes its releasees again... darn it.00:23
yagoostanmala, lsmod |grep rt3090sta00:23
p1oooop04 & 1000:23
yagoostanmala, lsmod simply lists btw.. and does nothing extraordinary00:23
p1oooopso, 12.0400:23
Jeruvyp1oooop, April and October00:23
stanmalaWARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.old, it will be ignored in a future release.00:24
stanmalaFATAL: Module rt3090sta not found.00:24
beeriosjoao, I figure if I can chroot into ubuntu on my phone, it'll be far more useful to me for everything other than just calls and SMS, seeing as I'd be able to use ubuntu's packages to install whatever I wanted00:24
p1oooopJeruvy: yes, 4 and 10... names don't work very well for me for whatever reason00:24
platzhirschAleo: installing gnome-panel via packet manager fixed the problem :)00:25
Name141is it possible to get back to the actual Gnome look ('ubuntu-classic' another words) in 11.10 ?00:25
platzhirschalacarte/main menu works now00:25
CandymanHow can I add software to the ubuntu customization kit which is outside from the synaptic?00:25
Aleoplatzhirsch, good :)00:25
beeriosbasically, really turn it into a fully-fledged handheld PC, software-wise.00:25
stanmalayagoo, modprobe rt3090sta returns :  WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.old, it will be ignored in a future release. FATAL: Module rt3090sta not found.00:25
JeruvyName141: before you login, select 'gnome-classic'00:26
joaobeerios, so you want to chroot from ubuntu to the android file system, correct? or you want to chroot from android to your ubuntu?00:26
Name141Jeruvy: I thought it was taking out in 11.10 ?00:26
beeriosfrom android into ubuntu00:26
Aleobrb00:27
yagoostanmala, i think i can help u..00:27
logicbombhey00:27
stanmalayagoo, great !! :)00:27
JeruvyName141, I don't think its removed, but I may be wrong.00:27
stanmalayagoo, 've been searching for hours...00:27
beeriosI want to keep android, because I think I need it for some of the hardware in the phone to function properly. I'd like to be able to chroot into ubuntu too, though, for everything else other than calls and texting.00:27
joaobeerios, and what your your connection? bluetooth? usb? do you know they work fine already I assume, no?00:28
logicbombAnybody know if there is a way to disable only the dock part of unity, on Oneiric Ocelot?00:28
Name141Jeruvy: http://linux-software-news-tutorials.blogspot.com/2011/10/ubuntu-1110-oneiric-remove-unity-and.html , maybe this will do it ?00:28
yagoostanmala, well this guy made a .deb for it (but i think its only i386-- not 64bit) https://launchpad.net/~markus-tisoft/+archive/rt3090 -- but i think the company has a tarball for it as well00:28
beeriosyes, all the hardware seems to be working fine, I just can't mount ext2 partitions at the moment, is my major stumbling block.00:28
joaobeerios, or you extracted a live image of ubuntu into the sd card?00:28
CandymanHow can I add software to the ubuntu customization kit which is outside from the synaptic?00:29
joaowell, is usb or have you tried internal SD card?00:30
logicbombbig large erect phallic objects00:30
joaoI would try to extract a ubuntu image into an minisd card and then chroot from android, no? if you use VFAT (fat32) you don't have to worry about anything00:31
beeriosjoao, I have a .img file that I assume was created with dd, it's like a whole partition in the file. The file was on the SD card, but I couldn't mount it, although my loop devices seem to be fine. It's the ext2 support that I don't have. I dropped some binaries onto the phone, and I can run e2fsck on the image file, and on an ext2 partition I created on the SD card, and that works. I just can't *mount* the ext2 partitions.00:31
yagoostanmala, good news?00:32
stanmalayagoo, I've already install his great compiled driver, that's the pb. It worked on 11.04 after blacklisting some of its modules. Then upgrading to 11.10, I had to "un-blacklist" the same modules. It worked for a while. Then a new upgrade made it all disappear...00:32
Name141Jeruvy: I think I'll check it out in a virtual machine first.  Then if I can't figure anything I'll go with Xubuntu or something more resonable than unity before I go ahead and do the partitions and dual boot .00:32
stanmalayagoo, what's a tarball00:32
missPapayaI created a package and I have a local repository. Can I add the package to the repository some how?00:32
CandymanNo one know anything about ubuntu customization kit?00:32
stanmalayagoo, and yes I'm on a i386 chipset00:33
JeruvyName141, you could boot from livecd also (rather than VM), but same difference.00:33
Archenommmm ubuntu customization kit00:33
phong_hi guys00:33
phong_clear00:33
yagoostanmala, did u have any luck with the .deb ?00:33
Name141Jeruvy: I'm just trying to ween myself off of XP before 2014.. and thought I might as well anyway since it's so old.00:33
beeriosI've narrowed the reason for being unable to mount the ext2 partitions down to not having a kernel module for them. I have no idea why I can run e2fsck on the ext2 partitions without the kernel module, but apparently, I can.00:33
joaoah!......00:33
stanmalayagoo, no, I've tried it twice, nothing new with it00:34
JeruvyName141, well you carry on then :)00:34
homeI have a hp 1006 printer that used to work on ubuntu 10.10, now in 11.04 and 11.10 it wont print now.  shows its installed, needs a plugin but wont download the plugin, any suggestions?00:34
joaoassuming android 2.1?00:34
yagoostanmala, omg they have a tarball but their f tarball link is dead --> http://web.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html00:34
yagoobastards..00:34
beerios2.2.1, with kernel 2.6.32.900:34
Name141Jeruvy: yeah lol.  I'm just wondering if this machine would be better running a 'smaller' one ?  (like xubuntu anyway)00:34
stanmalayagoo, when apt-get upgrade, this driver search for the oneiric version, but it has not been compiled yet00:35
Archenomcan I ask questions about backtrack in here?00:35
sol1xofc you can00:35
joaowas this you? http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/huawei-ideos-s7-technical/17710-help-mounting-ext2-partition-2-2-2-a.html00:35
Archenomok sweet00:35
JeruvyName141, Ubuntu today requires some decent hardware.  Lubuntu is the lightest weight of them all, Xubuntu would be next.00:35
stanmalayagoo, and I think my crash comes from here00:35
Name141Jeruvy: E2160 should be decent enough? Yet the CelronD single core in the living room seems faster sometimes :/00:36
joaobeerios, http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f4/seeing-ext2-17355/00:36
beeriosno, I haven't been posting on forums, I've just been reading them and scouring IRC, and searching the net for ext2.ko files, of which I found and tried about half a dozen with no success00:36
kanadairssi via ssh through my blackberry!00:36
yagoostanmala, i found some interesting results.. if that .deb doesnt help.. _RT3090_Linux tarball00:36
yagoostanmala, crash? what crash?00:36
beeriosI think because mostly I was getting ones that were compiled for ARMv6 or ARMv7 when my processor is ARMv500:36
yagoostanmala, oh ya?00:37
JeruvyName141: thats a decent enough proc for sure.00:37
yagoostanmala, what term did u search with apt?00:37
stanmalayagoo, no , not a real crash,00:37
joaoI would also try my method because i have chrooted into vfat before and it worked fine00:37
stanmalayagoo, but can't see my wifi card anymore00:37
yagoostanmala, dpkg -l|grep -i rt00:38
yagoostanmala, did u try the .deb-- Yes or No ?00:38
joaobeerios, there was a time I had time and patience for kernel modules but now I can't compile much of anything now00:38
Name141Jeruvy: Has ubuntu gotten any worse since hardy? in terms of needing processor/GPU power ? I was running that before I started getting in to PC gaming.00:38
stanmalayagoo, yes I've tried it00:38
beerioshrm00:38
yagoostanmala, we can remove the script of the other thing later..00:38
stanmalayagoo, nothing00:38
yagoostanmala, dpkg -Lp <debfilename>00:39
beeriosI'm not sure I can extract the .img into a vfat partition properly. I think I tried and got errors about it not supporting special files, like device files00:39
yagoostanmala, there wired net to this?00:39
joaojust have a recent sneaky script that I changed to work with vpnc into cisco and then start remote desktop00:39
yagoostanmala, nmind..00:39
joaoI am not the original author though ;)00:39
yagoobeerios, do you know what "vfat" means?00:40
tonihow do I install the cheese in the ubuntu 11:1000:40
yagoobeerios, there's no such thing as a vfat partition00:40
beeriosI assumed it was just another name for FAT3200:40
stanmalayagoo, I'm a newbie, sorry it takes me longtime to type and search00:40
yagoobeerios, vfat is a linux module00:40
JeruvyName141, depends on your definition of worseu00:40
Name141Jeruvy: "needs more 'power'"00:41
yagoostanmala, anything with "lib/modules" ?00:41
yagoostanmala, u can grep that-- dpkg -lp <debfilename>|grep module00:41
JeruvyName141, then yes it does/is.00:41
yagoostanmala, no actualyl use -Lp (not -lp)00:41
beeriosOk, well I got the impression it was another name for FAT32 from it being "vfat" in the type option when you mount a FAT32 partition00:41
joaoyagoo, in my linux there is type00:41
joaoyes00:42
stanmalayagoo, I'm still searching00:42
Name141Jeruvy: I guess the only thing to do is to try it..00:42
yagoostanmala, btw did u try the rt3090-dkms_2.4.0.4-0ubuntu0~ppa0_all.deb package ?00:44
stanmalayagoo, yep00:44
Rocky_^hello00:44
Rocky_^i love ubuntu00:44
Rocky_^hello wor00:45
Archenomboo windows 8 and the cloud! backtrack5 forever00:45
zykotick9Rocky_^, do you have an ubuntu support question?00:46
yagoostanmala, did u try installing the other dependency?00:46
SKG'Ello~ I was wondering if it was possible to run Ubuntu 11.10 from a External Hard Drive? I tried looking around but other people had different answers... =\00:46
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stanmalayagoo, what other one00:46
yagoostanmala, well it says dkms is needed..00:47
yagoostanmala, so i'm guessing it's already installed for you00:47
yagoo(dpkg -l dkms)00:47
zykotick9SKG, yes it's possible.  Be aware that during install Grub will probably default to installing onto your main HD, which you might not want.00:47
stanmalayagoo, rt3090-dkms_2.4.0.4-0ubuntu0~ppa0_all.debI think so00:47
stanmalayagoo, *sorry, I think so00:47
vvorSKG: no problem!00:47
yagoostanmala, do-> apt-get install -f00:47
SKGDo you perhaps have a link to a guide I can use? Sorry for the trouble, and thanks for the earlier replies. ^^00:48
vvorSKG: regular install point to the ext. HD00:49
SKGOkay, so I just install to the external hdd when it's plugged in while in installation?00:49
SKGSorry, but had to ask, kuz Grub was mentioned earlier...00:49
vvorSKG: setup bios to boot ext. HD00:50
yagoostanmala, dude.. that package upon installing it should of start compiling the module00:50
reisioSKG: there is literally no extra step00:50
SKGOkay, thanks.00:51
reisioa disk is a disk00:51
reisioto Linux00:51
stanmalayagoo, nothing new involved after apt-get install -f00:51
yagoostanmala, did u let the compile finish?00:51
SKGHow do I get it to uh, boot the external hard drive? I know when you have two OS installed on one drive it usually asks which to boot, but I'm not sure in this instance.00:51
yagoostanmala, what are the modules with it? find /lib/modules|grep -i rt300:51
SKGIs that the bios to boot ext. hd thing?00:51
reisioSKG: GRUB should auto detect if you have multiple OSes00:52
reisiootherwise: no extra step00:52
SKGOkay, thank you very much.00:52
stanmalayagoo, I think I didn"t disturb the compile process00:52
reisioSKG: just pretend like it's inside your computer box00:52
yagoostanmala, just a sec00:52
SKGDo habe a link for GRUB? If so it'd be appreciated, if not I can always look.00:52
stanmalayagoo, t/lib/modules/2.6.32-26-generic/kernel/drivers/staging/rt309000:53
stanmala/lib/modules/2.6.32-26-generic/kernel/drivers/staging/rt3090/rt3090sta.ko00:53
stanmala/lib/modules/2.6.31-11-rt/kernel/drivers/staging/rt307000:53
stanmala/lib/modules/2.6.31-11-rt/kernel/drivers/staging/rt3070/rt3070sta.ko00:53
stanmalahe command returns00:53
FloodBot1stanmala: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:53
stanmalayagoo, oops, sorry00:53
missPapayadoes anybody know how to work with apt mirrors?00:54
vvorSKG: you can set bios to boot from usb or any other ext. dev. and install linux AND Grub to that HD ie. if you have regular HD it will not boot if you do not swetch th bios seting00:54
reisiomissPapaya: pay them a reasonable wage00:54
missPapayareisio: hurr00:55
reisioright hurr00:55
missPapayathurr?00:55
missPapayaor hurr?00:55
reisiothe 't' is silent when you don't include it :p00:56
missPapayareisio: do you know how to add a custom package to a local repository?00:56
yagoostanmala, there's some hints in the readme of /usr/src/rt*/README* .. apparently the named module is 2860..00:57
haylo-bot_i think the repo chhoses the package and you choose the repo00:57
yagoostanmala, find /lib/modules |grep 286000:57
vvorSKG you can install Grub to the local HD and boot from the USB ext. HD that whay you do not need to change bios setup00:57
yagoostanmala, i'm not sure if rt3090sta was from that .deb00:57
TransX2Is Ubuntu cool?00:58
stanmalayagoo, so I said        find /lib/modules|grep -i rt3        returns         /lib/modules/2.6.32-26-generic/kernel/drivers/staging/rt3090          /lib/modules/2.6.32-26-generic/kernel/drivers/staging/rt3090/rt3090sta.ko      /lib/modules/2.6.31-11-rt/kernel/drivers/staging/rt3070      /lib/modules/2.6.31-11-rt/kernel/drivers/staging/rt3070/rt3070sta.ko00:58
yagoostanmala, i just checked.. ya this should be it00:58
yagoostanmala, try that one..00:58
yagoostanmala, modprobe rt3090sta00:58
yagoostanmala, then see if its loaded really-- lsmod |grep rt309000:58
TransX2No?00:59
reisioTransX2: it's um00:59
reisioTransX2: compared to Windows it is00:59
reisioand to nothing00:59
stanmalayagoo, lsmod for rt3090 returns nothing00:59
reisioand Mac OS00:59
vvorSKG: but inthis way you will not be able to take the ext. HD and use it on any other PC.01:00
stanmalayagoo, WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.old, it will be ignored in a future release.                FATAL: Module rt3090sta not found.01:00
zykotick9vvor, SKG has left (i think)01:00
TransX2What do you like about Ubuntu that windows or Mac can't do or doesn't have?01:00
vvorzykotick9: yep!01:00
reisioTransX2: take your pick01:00
zykotick9!ot | TransX201:00
ubottuTransX2: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:00
yagoostanmala, depmod -a01:01
yagoostanmala, then try the modprobe rt3090sta01:01
sm1stanmala: to load rt3030 , rt3070 must be unloadded and blacklisted as well.01:01
TransX2Fine, geeez, didn't even know there was such a channel. Sorry.01:01
yagoosm1, he's not loading rt303001:01
stanmalayagoo, I've picked this mod http://ppa.launchpad.net/markus-tisoft/rt3090/ubuntu/pool/main/r/rt3090/01:01
yagoostanmala, i'm getting my miniitx soon-- and it'll be using a similar chipset..01:03
mikodoHello, Can anyone point me towards a guide for no0bs for this probem:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/722797/01:03
stanmalayagoo, depmod returns      FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/3.0.0-13-generic/modules.dep.temp for writing: Permission denied01:03
yagoostanmala, :)01:04
yagoosorry too many compile warnings ..01:04
reisiomikodo: can't read all that, what's the problem01:04
yagoohard to decipher..01:04
stanmalayagoo, OK, no pb, I can manage on wire for a moment, I will check on xchat after Haloween time :)01:04
yagoostanmala, i can do it for you if u want..01:05
mikodoyag01:05
yagoonp01:05
stanmalayagoo, what... can u compile it, you mean ?...01:05
mikodoI reformatted my external Hard drive by mistake and now I don't know how to make a mount point for it and mount it01:06
stanmalayagoo, thanks already for your time ! ^_^01:06
yagoomikodo, what's the problem? u can't mount the partition of format? (btw u formatted an ext4 without a label name)01:07
yagoomikodo, btw e2label can volume rename ext4 filesystesm01:08
zykotick9mikodo, using "sudo mount LABEL="New Volume" /mnt" would mount your sdf1 to /mnt (using its Label)01:08
stanmalayagoo, night time in France, I'm logging out now, cheers!01:08
yagoostanmala, bye bye01:08
mikodoyagoo, e2label .... I look for that01:09
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yagooe2lable /dev/sdf101:09
zykotick9mikodo, e2label would just be for renaming the "New Volume" btw01:09
yagoo,/e2label/01:09
mikodozykotick9,  can you give me the command as Backup and have it mount to /media01:11
vvormikodo: mount /dev/sdf1 /media01:12
zykotick9mikodo, <i don't recommend using /media> but 1st "sudo mkdir /media/Backup" then mount with "sudo mount LABEL=Backup /media/Backup"01:13
mikodovvor, ok I'll play with tha01:13
zykotick9mikodo, DON'T use vvor's!01:13
mikodozykotick9,  OK01:13
miceikenHow do I check whether ubuntu supports my sd-card reader or not?01:14
Tech-1What i'm trying to do is change sudo time out for asking for password..shorten it.. how can i do that ?01:14
zykotick9miceiken, plug it in with a card, and check dmesg's output01:14
reisiomiceiken: it does01:15
zykotick9Tech-1, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76314201:15
vvorTech-1: OR http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=sudo+time+out&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-801:16
miceikenzykotick9 just a bunch of tcp stuff01:16
zykotick9miceiken, did you just plug it in?01:16
miceikenyes01:16
zykotick9miceiken, then that might be a bad sign01:17
Tech-1ok, thanks01:17
miceikenwell01:17
* Tech-1 looks01:17
miceikendo i need to mount it or something01:17
tlmWeird can't get sound out of either the speakers or headphone jack on an Acer Travelmate 2413LCi, LSHW = http://pastebin.com/dT4aHNbk APLAY and LPCI = http://pastebin.com/1TtPGvAA01:17
zykotick9miceiken, mount requires a device, and dmesg would tell if the kernel sees the device...01:17
miceikenhmm01:18
miceikeni dont have any other sd card readers :<01:18
Tech-1cool, thanks zykotick901:18
miceikenanything else i can do to make sure zykotick901:19
zykotick9miceiken, with it still plugged in see if "sudo fdisk -l" shows it?01:19
jam2011I am getting disconnected from this channel... why is it so01:19
AndroUserhi01:20
miceikenhttp://pastebin.com/FE1tS32x zykotick9 doesnt appear so01:20
RickAccesMy Spirit book is online thank Dr. Gaind the Magnificiant for Perfection and Dignity and the rest of the spiritual brothers and sisters worldwide: http://sourceforge.net/projects/centrybook/files/ Thanks ubuntu and java software dev on ubuntu.01:20
zykotick9miceiken, can you pastebin your dmesg output?01:21
miceikenzykotick9 wall of text is about to hit you01:22
miceikenhttp://pastebin.com/d1GB0Xem01:22
miceikenkeep in mind that this is a server, am i missing a package perhaps?01:22
miceikenim a linux noobie01:22
zykotick9miceiken, i don't see ANYTHING about you connecting your card reader :(01:23
miceikenhmm, well, thanks for your help anyway :)01:23
zykotick9miceiken, can you unplug it, wait 3 seconds, plug it back in - then check if there is anything new in dmesg?01:23
miceikensure01:23
miceikenhang on01:23
miceikenwow01:24
miceikennow something haddened01:24
miceikenhappened01:24
FloodBot1miceiken: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:24
miceikenhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/722807/ zykotick901:24
miceikenthis just popped out01:24
vvormiceiken: do you have/had any USB dev work is USB inanled in bios01:24
zykotick9miceiken, "sudo mount /dev/sdd1 /mnt" should now work01:24
miceikengreat01:25
ga_pro1988ux01:25
qmanjr5How do I find how much space I have and is taken on my drive?01:25
miceikenvvor, i dont understand your question :P01:25
MesaphHi, i need help. I installed kubuntu 11.10 yesterday on my netbook, but it crashed 4 times and i cant figure out why. The Screen turns black, a lot of text scrolls through the window and it ends with "panic occured; switching to text console". I cant find a log of any of the crashes, but im fairly new to linux, so i might miss something obvious. Google doesnt help much, there are various threads of people who get a similiar error message,01:25
Mesaphbut it doesnt seem related as my crash isnt really reproducable..01:25
zykotick9qmanjr5, "df -h"01:25
miceikenanyway, regarding my other question. what commands are there to flush cache, remove old logs etc?01:25
reisioqmanjr5: baobab01:26
qmanjr5Thank you zykotick9 and reisio01:26
zykotick9miceiken, "sudo apt-get clean" deletes downloaded apt packages.01:26
miceikenthat one i know of01:27
vvormiceiken: lookup log rotation01:27
joaoltr nit nit tx01:28
miceikenzykotick9, how do i unmount it again?01:28
joaoumount01:28
miceikenvvor, thanks i will01:28
zykotick9miceiken, "sudo umount /mnt"01:28
vvormiceiken: I was thinking maybe your USB was desabled in the bios, as it may be in servers, but it looks like it's working now!01:29
miceikenvvor, yep, i got it working magicly now01:29
miceiken:D01:29
vvormiceiken: I would say zykotick9'ly ;-)01:30
miceikenhaha01:30
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ghostnik11hi are these the correct commands to burn a cue image using cdrecord in terminal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/722811/01:31
mschhi guys, stupid question, where did the ubuntu-base package go?01:32
reisioghostnik11: the space between MEGAMAN and X4 alone is probably going to make it fail01:32
zykotick9ghostnik11, i didn't think cdrecord could burn bin/cue images???01:33
miceikenhow come sometimes when i wget stuff01:33
reisioghostnik11: type MEG, then hit TAB01:33
miceikeni get like the php file01:33
reisiomiceiken: try with quotes around the URI01:33
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miceikenstill01:33
reisiomiceiken: then it's a redirect, or the server is expecting more from the UA than wget gives by default01:34
reisiolike possibly a cookie01:34
reisioor a referer01:34
reisioor sometimes it's just dumb01:34
reisiosometimes people send JPEG images as .php extensions with crazy query strings01:34
ghostnik11reisio; will try MEG and hit tab01:34
zykotick9ghostnik11, ya, you might require cdrdao for bin/cue01:35
reisioor just bin2iso01:35
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miceikenim so bad with this stuff, the wiki isnt exactly great at explaining the frequently used commands - how do I copy stuff over? I had thought cp * /mnt/* would do01:36
zykotick9reisio, that would destory the origional disks image... you'd probably lose audio tracks then.  ghostnik1101:36
bdrewerymiceiken: cp * /mnt/01:36
ghostnik11zykotick9: the thing is cdrdao didn't work to burn the files like cue when i tried with brasero and k3b back in 11.04 - ubuntu, and had to install cdrtools, but this time i went with the ppa by brandon snider01:36
daeosI recently upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and want to know why is it that when I installed zsnes that all of my other games were uninstalled (ex. OpenArena & Mana World) and when I try to install any other game, zsnes is said to be removed.01:36
reisioI guess it depends on what the image is of01:37
xxiaoclose any window will disable input to gnome-terminal, click outside the terminal will return it to normal, konsole has no such issue, am i the only one seeing this on 10.04/64bit?01:37
zykotick9ghostnik11, sorry my cdrecord/cdrdao knowledge might be out of date - i haven't used either in years.  Good luck.01:37
ghostnik11zykotick9: i am going to uninstall the brandon snider ppa of cdrtools and try to manually install cdrtools from another website from source, thanks for the help though bro01:38
Tech-1worked like a charm , zykotick9 , much appreciated01:39
ClerisyI just accidently deleted the wrong partition via gparted is there a way to restore it? please help01:39
zykotick9Tech-1, nice!01:39
Tech-1have a super day01:39
* Tech-1 out01:40
reisioClerisy: you actually did the 'apply' bit?01:40
reisioor whatever gparted calls its execut actions thing01:40
Clerisyreisio» i thought it was a different partition01:40
reisioClerisy: that doesn't answer my question01:40
Clerisyreisio» yes01:40
zykotick9!info testdisk | Clerisy01:40
ubottuClerisy: testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.11-2 (oneiric), package size 1558 kB, installed size 4612 kB01:40
meti_I have Medion RIM2060 with Sigmatel Audio ..need a driver ,can anyone help me01:41
meti_?01:41
meti_Medion Laptop01:41
miceikenbdrewery what if i want to move like a folder01:41
bdrewerymiceiken: move or copy?01:42
miceikencopy01:42
meti_Is thre any Ubuntu expert?!!01:42
happyfacewhy is xstartup using 99% cpu usage?01:42
bdrewerymiceiken: cp -r /path/to/src /path/to/dst01:42
bdrewerymiceiken: see also: man cp, man mv01:43
newmarwich codec i need use to my music songs when i pass the mouse above of the icon?01:43
fugazianyone good at derivatives?  i find y = (x^(2/3))/(x-1) and y' = [(x^(2\3)(1))-(x-1)*(2\3)x^(-1/3)]/((x-1)^2) unsimplified.  anyone dissagree?01:43
zykotick9newmar, (i could be wrong) but i think if you install the mpg123 package that will happen for MP3 files01:44
miceikenokay guys thanks for your help01:44
newmarzykotick9, i tried but doesn t work01:44
zykotick9newmar, ? don't know then.  Good luck.01:45
chocohelp me....how to install lam/mpi,,,01:45
Clerisyzykotick9» do i append or create01:46
meti_hi01:46
meti_Need help about Audio Driver01:46
zykotick9Clerisy, sorry i don't know, i've used photorec from testdisk to recover files, but never used testdisk to recover partitions before.01:46
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chocompich2,,????01:47
vvorfugazi: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-141463153241424458901:47
chocogridmpi?????01:48
WanderingEnderIs there a CLI command, like iftop, that shows aggregate transfer rates for an interface?01:48
* zykotick9 was hoping vvor's link would be for "waiting room" by fugazi01:48
WanderingEnderI don't want to see each conversation, just eth1 is using 1.2Mb/s at this time.01:48
gevenuxhabla alguien español?01:50
zykotick9!es | gevenux01:50
ubottugevenux: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.01:50
gevenuxgracias01:50
pdtpatrick_WanderingEnder:  .. iftop can be used from CLI .. i think if u run sudo iftop eth0 .. it should work01:51
WanderingEnderYeah, pdtpatrick_, I just found out what button I needed to push in iftop to get aggregates. Thanks.01:51
WanderingEnder(s and d)01:51
enzopremehey, im having a little trouble with something, anyone willing to help??01:52
WanderingEnder!ask | enzopreme01:52
ubottuenzopreme: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience01:52
enzopremei have my laptop displayed on my tv through hdmi with windows, but when i try to have it displayed on my tv with ubuntu, it only flashed on the screen for a second, then goes back to the laptop, its really annoying as i like to use my tv as my default display01:54
Miodraghello01:55
Miodragi have been trying in last couple of hours to install an script on ubuntu 11.10 [which have worked well on 11.04]01:56
Miodragit seems to be a problem with libncurses5-dev and make menuconfig01:57
vvorenzopreme: http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ubuntu+hdmi+defaul+desplay&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#hl=en&client=ubuntu&hs=Nz0&channel=fs&sa=X&ei=xK6sTpH6MISzhAfai8nwDw&ved=0CBoQvwUoAQ&q=ubuntu+hdmi+default+display&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=aed0f713efd5a7d2&biw=1598&bih=79101:57
corsairtuxenzopreme, what's your card? p.s. are you italian?01:57
Miodragdoes anyone have idea what can i do?01:57
zykotick9!google > vvor01:58
ubottuvvor, please see my private message01:58
enzopremelol, yeah im italian01:58
enzopremeand im not sure what card i have, its stock in a dell vostro 355501:58
zykotick9enzopreme, in terminal "lspci | grep -i vga"01:58
enzopremecorsair, why u ask if im italian?01:58
enzopremelol01:58
enzopremelol, bellisimo02:01
benct!patience | echo benct02:01
ubottuecho benct: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/02:01
benctjust to know.02:01
corsairtuxenzopreme, pm02:01
sysdocIf smbclient gives you the shares on a server then how would you find the shares directory from the cli?02:02
Miodraghere is the pastebin of what i get when i do make menuconfig http://pastebin.com/VXczrCXD02:02
Miodragdoes anyone have idea how to fix this?02:04
enzopremei think mines nvidia as well... i think maybe it was a bad d/l, im gonna try to reintall ubuntu... maybe that'll work?02:05
* reisio headdesks02:06
enzopremeim not fluent... lmao02:06
Miodragenzopreme, by qiock search on google i found that yours card is ati radeon02:07
corsairtuxenzopreme, ti ho scritto in privato02:07
Miodragbut you ptovided here only basic model name " dell vostro 3555" - if you turn computer upside down - you could type here whats exact model02:07
zykotick9enzopreme, to find your graphcis card, in terminal type "lspci | grep -i vga"02:09
chid_sis it possible to set up a shortcut to the messaging menu?02:09
enzopremeok, Miodrag, it says dell 3550, i also have double boot, would that make a difference?02:09
Miodragit seems that yours chipset has dual graphics02:10
Miodragso disableing inboard graphics in bios may solve issue02:10
_deXter_Hi, is anyone here familiar with customizing awn's themes?02:10
enzopremehow do i do that?02:11
s0neehmm my script has a command that only runs as root. i chown to root:root, set permission 4755 but it still fails to run because it doesnt run as root ?02:11
enzopremeim just learning all of this02:11
Miodragenzo, when you restart computer you press F2 or del button - it may be different from model to model to enter bios02:12
enzopremeok02:12
Miodragif you are chatting now from other computer we can do this together on private02:12
enzopremeno im not, but im gonna shut this one down, sign back in from my phone, then ill let you know im back02:13
enzopremethanks so much02:13
Ibysss0nee: Which user runs the script?02:13
crookss0nee, try sudo ./nameofyourscript02:14
IbyssWAIT STOP HOLD UP!!1     Why must it be runned as root anyway? Server script?02:14
Ibyssit run as root*02:14
crookshas a command that only runs as root02:15
smellydoghi, I am using Ubuntu 11.10 Desktop edition, is there a way to temporary disable GUI? tried GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text" in /etc/default/grub, not work...02:15
zykotick9smellydog, if you just want to stop X for a specific purpose i think "sudo service lightdm stop" should work (if the service is actually called lightdm, which i'm not sure)02:16
Miodragsmellydog, i belive that you can install gnome-clasic and than logout and chose whatever X or without X interface you like02:16
Miodragfor that logon session02:16
s0neeIbyss: the script uses wpa_supplicant and dhcpcd. one guy tells me that suid does not work with script ?02:16
vvorsmellydog: /etc/init.d/gdm stop02:17
zykotick9vvor, i doubt that would work for 11.1002:17
reisiosmellydog: what for02:17
ldz420I made an modification to xorg file and want it to pick up the changes without restarting the machine is this possible. and if so how can it be done?02:17
reisioldz420: you can start another X server02:18
ldz420what do I type in the command line? start X?02:18
smellydogreisio: I have limited memory, and want build a openwrt environment02:18
s0neevvor: zykotick9 i think its "service lightdm stop" ?02:18
ResQuehow can i add/install a tun module so i can use openvpn02:18
reisiosmellydog: ah02:18
reisioldz420: startx -- :1 -br02:19
ResQueTUN/TAP driver maybe?02:19
reisioldz420: typically would start it on TTY8, your current will remain on 702:19
g0rsare you playing games on ubuntu?02:19
s0neesmellydog: try "service lightdm stop" ?02:19
zykotick9s0nee, that would require sudo02:20
s0neesmellydog: in 11.10 its lightdm, not gdm anymore02:20
smellydogseems "service lightdm stop" works, thanks zykotick9, thanks all!02:20
zykotick9smellydog, with or without sudo?02:21
s0neezykotick9: with sudo02:21
ldz420reisio: how to I switch the terminal? Do I use an F key on the top row of my keypad?02:21
smellydogwith sudo02:21
zykotick9smellydog, ok, just checkin'02:21
vvorsmellydog: zykotick9 s0nee Sorry it's: sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm stop on 11.1002:22
Miodragzykotick9, vvor; whats wrong with installing gnome-panel an changing login session to non X?02:22
zykotick9vvor, using init.d is outdated!02:22
vvoryep old habets02:22
s0neevvor: ubuntu now uses upstart, so its "sudo service <name> stop|start"02:23
zykotick9Miodrag, what does gnome-panel have to do with non-Xorg?  is "non X" an actual option?02:23
vvorMiodrag: the install02:23
reisioldz420: CTRL+ALT+F#02:23
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vvors0nee: yep for now the two work but we should be upstarting from now on :-)02:24
CantonHello, using Xubuntu 11.10, having trouble mounting external NTFS Drive it gives me a message "Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21:"02:25
ResQueHow can i installed a Tun/Tap driver so i can use openVPN02:25
Miodragzykotick9, vvor; sry i missunderstod - i am linux newbie, i tought he need non gui enviropment02:25
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reisioCanton: after doing what02:26
Cantonwell I've plugged it in and that error pops up02:27
ircdeariaOn one ubuntu system I see several jre apps installed: default-jre, gcj-4.4-jre, openjdk-6-jre, gcj-4.5-jre, openjdk-7-jre, sun-java6-jre.  How can I force firefox to use sun-java6-jre when loading java applets?02:27
CantonI've tried different ports02:27
Cantonand I've tried other NTFS external drives same thing02:27
Cantonit mounts Fat32 and Fat16 drives fine02:27
mrdebwhat error02:27
zykotick9ResQue, you could try "sudo modprobe tun" - but i haven't used tun/tap since Virtualbox fixed their network setup (quite a while ago now)02:27
Miodragcan anyone help me how to resolve this: http://pastebin.com/VXczrCXD02:28
s0neeircdearia: when firefox loads java applet, i think it actually invoke "java". so you may need to look at environment variables or java settings ?02:29
ircdeariaah, sudo update-alternatives --config java02:29
SiegeLordWhat's up with 11.10 and libGL? GCC can't seem to find it in the standard location (I installed libgl1-mesa-dev which usually provided it fine)02:30
ResQuen but i still dont see a tun module loaded with lsmod02:31
AbumaceoHello... I'm new to IRC but  I'm coming here with questions about lost files now that I've upgraded to 11:10.02:32
mikodoI need to start over! I have a usb drive hard drive used for backups that I re-formatted and when I turn it on it is not mounted. I want to turn it on; run a backup program and then turn it off. I't's path is: /dev/sdf1 Label: New Volume I have message stating: Unable to find mount point. Should I turn it off, before following any commans?02:32
FirefisheI'm using 11.10 on an Asus G50V laptop.  I want to know if there is a way to manually control fan speed on this, or any, laptop using this release.02:32
zykotick9ResQue, perhaps this will help http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man8/tunctl.8.html02:34
s0nee!ask | Abumaceo02:34
ubottuAbumaceo: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience02:34
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AbumaceoThanks02:34
ldz420reisio: I tried to go into a different terminal and use startx but will not let me because socketCreatelistening funtion fails because server is still running any more ideas?02:35
samsul!patience02:35
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/02:35
s0neemikodo: if it cant find the mount point, why dont you try to create it and run again ?02:35
mikodos0nee, because I don't know what I am doing02:36
s0neemikodo: "sudo mkdir /media/usb && sudo mount /dev/sdf1 /media/usb"      now the usb should be mounted in /media/usb02:36
jadoni need help setting up ssh so i can connect to a computer from anywhere02:37
joemofkndothi i used computer janitor and i think is has broken my ability to go to ubuntu software center and synaptic02:37
vvorjadon: what's the Q.?02:37
reisioldz420: sorry not familiar with that voodoo02:37
qinjadon: sudo apt-get install openssh-server02:37
s0neeAbumaceo jadon whats your question ?02:37
mrdebdoes ubuntu 1110 support usb #302:37
mrdeb?02:38
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jadondone that02:38
mikodos0nee, well I ran your command and it didn't throw any commands....02:38
jadonbut the ssh login times out02:38
zykotick9jadon, from the local machine try "ssh localhost"02:38
mikodoerrors I mean02:38
jadonthat works02:38
ldz420reisio: that for the attempt.. i guess it is time to restart02:38
zykotick9jadon, firewall?02:38
qinjadon: In config it is grace time, or it is firewall02:38
jadonwait no02:38
mikodos0nee, errors I meant02:39
vvorjadon: open FW router port02:39
jadonodd ssh localhost does not work02:39
s0neemikodo: that means it works. now the usb is mounted at /media/usb02:39
ResQuei am haveing some issues with TUN devices, could someone please help point me in the right direction to install/manage tun devices02:39
zykotick9jadon, "sudo service ssh start"02:39
samsuljadon, what did you install?02:39
mikodos0nee, so, do I just shut off the hard drive and turn it back on and all should be good?02:40
jadonlet me rephase my info02:40
samsuli usually install this sudo apt-get install ssh << it will install both, openssh-server and openssh-client02:40
jadonssh localhost works02:40
jadonssh  computer@subnetip works from a different computer02:41
jadonssh computer@publicip does not work02:41
samsulas a client you need openssh-client, and as a server you need openssh-server02:41
zykotick9jadon, on your router forward port 22 to your server ip02:41
mikodos0nee, I will shut it off and turn it  back on to see where we are :)02:41
jadonalready portforwarded02:41
CantonNeed help with mounting an external NTFS hard drives, Im running Xubuntu 11.10, I try mounting any NTFS external but I get an error message each time02:41
ClerisyI just accidently deleted the wrong partition via gparted is there a way to restore it? please help02:42
s0neemikodo: no its mounted and you can access it at /media/usb02:42
reisioClerisy: zykotick9 gave you something like an hour ago02:42
s0neemikodo: configure your backup program to copy files to /media/usb02:42
samsulCanton, what kind of error message did you get?02:42
Clerisyreisio» didn't work as expected02:42
CantonMount Failed Error Mounting: mount exited with exit code 21:"02:43
ultrixxjadon: did i understand you correctly, that you tried to access your ssh server from inside your network with the public ip address?02:43
jadoni belive so02:43
mikodos0nee, well i had shut it off, before you responsed, I have now turned it back on...02:43
chris_\q02:43
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samsulCanton, did you mount it manually?02:44
ultrixxjadon: ok. not every router is smart enough to do NAT translation for requests from inside the network02:44
ultrixxjadon: at least not every router is configured for that02:44
jadoncan u try and connect for me to see if it works?02:44
ultrixxjadon: ok02:44
jadonhow do you wisper02:44
CantonSamsul: I right clicked and told it to mount02:44
mikodos0nee, Well that messed it up, as you can suspect, /media/usb is now empty02:45
ultrixxjadon: that depends on the irc client you are using02:45
ultrixxjadon: on irc you don't whisper you open a dialog02:45
samsulCanton, did you try mount it manually?02:45
bennishey, anybody know how to trick windows 2k's bootloader into booting from usb?02:45
zykotick9bennis, try ##windows02:46
benniszykotick9 good call02:46
bennisthanks02:46
zykotick9ultrixx, use "/msg NICKYOUWANT message here"02:47
zykotick9jadon, ^02:47
mikodos0nee, is there a way to configure so that the drive when turned on will automount at /media/usb?02:47
vvorbennis: goto bios first: usb boot02:47
bennisvvor: it's not that simple, it's an old machine :P02:47
s0neemikodo: run "nautilus"  to open the file manager. then on the left pane there should be your device. click on it02:48
zykotick9vvor, don't support windows issues here02:48
vvor#winOLD ;-)02:48
benniszykotick9: my issue is so that i can put ubuntu on it... i thought someone might know something about it :/02:49
s0neezykotick9: vvor: the funny thing is theres actually #microsoft on this server and there are like 4 people there. lol02:49
mikodos0nee, but will it be mounted when I do that?02:49
zykotick9s0nee, ##windows has 400+ people02:49
s0neemikodo: it will automatically mounts your drive and open it02:50
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mikodos0nee,  you have been patient.  I will play with some more by myself Thanks02:51
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s0neemikodo: does it open the drive ?02:51
newmaranyhone knows some documents about librecad to learn it02:51
mikodos0nee,  I am not sure what is there, maybe I need to mnt it each time I start it like you showed me before02:52
mrdebhow long is ubuntu 1004 supported02:53
mrdebis it 1302:53
zykotick9!lucid | mrdeb02:53
ubottumrdeb: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004 - Supported until April 2013 (Desktop), April 2015 (Server)02:53
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jadonultrixx you still on?02:54
ultrixxyes02:54
ghostnik11can anyone tell me what this means: "To use GNU make create a file called 'Gmake' in you search path02:54
ghostnik11that contains:02:54
ghostnik11#!/bin/sh02:54
ghostnik11MAKEPROG=gmake02:54
ghostnik11export MAKEPROG02:54
FloodBot1ghostnik11: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:54
ghostnik11exec gmake "$@"02:54
talosTHey, guys there was a post a while back that changed the error message when you type in a wrong pass in terminal. Anyone have the link?02:54
tlmWeird can't get sound out of either the speakers or headphone jack on an Acer Travelmate 2413LCi, LSHW = http://pastebin.com/dT4aHNbk APLAY and LSPCI = http://pastebin.com/1TtPGvAA02:54
share^02:54
ghostnik11can anyone tell me what this means: http://paste.ubuntu.com/722853/02:56
Dougie187Does anyone have any experience using a VPN from a chroot?02:56
napalm54Anyone know of where to get some great themes for Ubuntu 11.10?02:56
jadondoes anyone here actually like "unity"02:57
KyeRussellRunning Ubuntu 11.10 w/ encrypted home directories turned on;  got SSH keys working by putting the authorized_keys file somewhere outside of my home directory, but now my home directory isn't mounting upon connection.  I can mount if after, but that means my .bashrc.etc isn't read on logon.  Any ideas?02:57
Dougie187jadon: I do.02:57
sharejadon: I don't.02:57
russetHi, I'm trying to solve a GRUB booting issue and I'm having trouble finding a place to start.02:58
ghostnik11napalm54: i think you should check omgubuntu.co.uk02:58
share!nounity02:58
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic02:58
napalm54ghostnik11: Thanks, sure will02:58
russetI'd like to dual-boot XP and Linux, but my grub partition references are incorrect. I can boot Ubuntu, but not XP.02:59
napalm54So, I have a laptop with Nvidia Optimus.  Where there is both the intel gpu and nvidia gpu.  I don't think I am getting all of the great visual effects in Ubuntu 11.10 by default because it uses the Intel GPU, anyway to force the Nvidia GPU?03:00
zykotick9russet, have you tried running "sudo update-grub" yet?03:00
Dougie187russet: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot03:01
TechnicusHow can I enable hardware accelerated 3D graphics support on Ubuntu 11.04 for an Intel graphics processor?03:01
russetwill that fix it automatically? zykotick903:01
zykotick9russet, that's the hope03:01
russetIt's rather convoluted, which is why I am skeptical.03:02
Dougie187Ok, so I have a vpn set up in a 32bit chroot, and I can connect and it works how I want. but I need to have access to the connection outside of the chroot. So does anyone have any idea how to do that?03:02
zykotick9Technicus, for intel, turn the computer on is all you should need.03:02
russetI'd like to find the path to Windows (for the boot) and mod grub to point to it03:02
Technicuszykotick9: That is not the case in this particular instance.  Do you have any troubleshooting suggestions?03:03
zykotick9Technicus, not really... what's happening?  what are you trying to run that's failing?03:03
mrdebso 1110 is buggy03:04
Technicuszykotick9: Compiz will not start.03:04
mrdebcompared to 100403:04
Dougie187mrdeb: mine's not.03:04
mrdeblike net manager03:04
Dougie187works fine for me.03:04
urlin2urusset, in ubuntu sudo update-grub should find it03:04
mrdebno03:04
zykotick9Technicus, from terminal does "glxinfo | grep direct" report Yes?03:05
Technicuszykotick9: I believe there is a problem with some Nvidia driver moduel loading or something.03:05
mikodos0nee,  if I turn on the usb drive and mount it the way you showed me it works! Would the umount command be: sudo umount /dev/sdf103:05
zykotick9Technicus, do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf?  you shouldn't, rename it to xorg.conf.OLD if you do.03:05
Technicuszykotick9: It reports a semgentation fault.03:05
s0neemikodo: its "sudo umount /media/usb"03:06
Technicuszykotick9: The file is there but it is empty.03:06
mikodos0nee,  Thank you, I will record that! :)03:06
s0neemikodo: no problem03:06
zykotick9Technicus, do you have nvidia packages installed?  "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" for a list.03:07
nac-godfatherAnybody here know how to have TeamViewer start on startup, as a service, not minimized?03:07
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Technicuszykotick9: nvidia-current is installed.03:08
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reisionac-godfather: not sure teamviewer does as a service03:08
nac-godfatherwell what is the preferred way to start ssh as a startup daemon?03:09
Technicuszykotick9: Does that mean that it is installed?  If I look in synaptic package manager, it is not installed.03:09
nac-godfatherI've added my own custom bash script for /etc/init.d/ssh start, but also /usr/bin/ssh03:09
nac-godfathernot sure which is better, but I know the /etc/init.d/ssh start isn't working03:10
zykotick9Technicus, if dpkg says it's installed - it's installed.  you could use "sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current" to remove it (not sure that will help mind you)03:10
Technicuszykotick9: It will not uninstall!03:10
russetTechnicus: sudo in03:11
zykotick9Technicus, just leave it then03:11
zykotick9Technicus, sorry i don't have any other suggestions, good luck.03:11
Technicuszykotick9: Ok . . . thanks.03:11
FirefisheDoes anyone have a manner in which to control fan speed in a laptop?  I'm running ubuntu 11.10 on an asus g50v laptop.03:12
reisiog50v, interesting03:13
reisioyou must be rich :p03:13
reisioFirefishe: http://www.linlap.com/wiki/asus+g50v http://monalisa.cern.ch/blog/2008/09/16/ubuntu-on-asus-g50v/03:14
ResQuehow can i install the kernel module Tun.ko03:14
Firefishereisio:  I got it at Best Buy in 2008, for 1299.00 plus tax.  It's not a custom job, although I would've liked that.  Those cost upwards of $3,000.0003:16
reisioFirefishe: does it have eSATA?03:17
Firefishereisio: Yes, but with the advent of USB 3.0, it's kind of a moot point.03:18
reisiowell if you could pop usb3 support into your laptop, it might be03:18
linuxhi people03:18
reisioIIRC usb 3 isn't faster than all sata, anyways03:18
linuxi need help03:18
reisiolinux: whatup03:18
linuxplease03:18
CaptWhoi'm installing 11.10 on a bare-bones netbook .  i've noticed that the filesystems /dev and /run/shm suck up a lot of disk space in the default installation.  i tried creating my / filesystem and then adding /dev and /run/shm, but i get the error saying that they must be in the root filesystem.   / won't let me install any filesystems inside it.  any idea where i go from here?03:18
Firefishereisio:  let's go to ubuntu-offtopic if you want to chat03:18
linuxreisio can you help me03:18
reisioI don't want to chat03:19
linuxmy wireless not connecting in ubuntu03:19
reisioI just respond03:19
reisiolinux: did it work during install?03:19
urlin2ulinux, the protocol is to state the problem for a best chance at help.03:19
linuxbefore it was not detecting03:19
briman0094i need some grub help03:19
linuxbut now it solve03:19
linuxit detecting now03:19
linuxbut not connecting03:19
briman0094i'm trying to install grub onto /dev/sda203:19
FloodBot1linux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:19
briman0094so i booted into my ubuntu livecd03:20
linuxhey guys any one can give my solution03:20
briman0094and when I run grub-install /dev/sda2, it says "cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)03:20
urlin2ubriman0094, whay to a partition?03:20
urlin2uwhy*03:20
robin0800briman0094, are you sure it should be sda03:21
zykotick9CaptWho, /dev is a virtual file system, and takes up virtual NO space?03:21
linuxany one can help me how to connect wireless03:21
briman0094i need a dual boot between MineOS and Windows 703:21
linuxmy wireless not connecting03:21
briman0094i'll try sda03:21
Polahbriman0094, GRUB has to go into the bootloader. /dev/sda. Specify --root-directory=/path/to/dir   for where configuration files and such go03:21
briman0094ok03:21
briman0094what would i put as --root-directory for real?03:21
briman0094it still give me that error03:22
urlin2ubriman0094, follow this with a cd equal to the ubuntu install. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy_LiveCD_Files03:22
Polahbriman0094, --root-directory=/ and you'll want to mount that partition at /boot03:22
briman0094ok03:22
urlin2ubriman0094, no partitions mounted unmount all before running commands.03:22
robin0800briman0094, not sure you have to Iv'e never had to03:22
Dougie187Can someone help me make use of a dns from inside a chroot while I'm outside it on the host?03:22
briman0094it says /boot is already busy03:23
briman0094oh hold on03:23
Dougie187Or how to route traffic through a chroot?03:23
zykotick9Dougie187, it might not be possible... just sayin'03:23
CaptWhozykotick9, when i do a df, it says that it's occupying 200 megs and using 1%.  i'd like to  limit that to 50 megs03:23
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Dougie187hmmm...03:23
zykotick9CaptWho, df reports my dev as using 2GB but "du -sh /dev" reports 292k03:24
celltechis Tar our version of 'Zip'?03:25
CaptWhois /run/shm the same?03:25
zykotick9CaptWho, i don't have /run (older system), my /dev/shm is the same though03:26
zykotick9celltech, tar and gz is similar to ZIP03:26
CaptWhookay...  i've never used the du command, so thanks for that03:26
zykotick9celltech, tar is uncompressed - just all files together03:26
celltechGood to know thank you.03:27
briman0094got grub installed03:27
briman0094but i forgot to update-grub03:27
urlin2ubriman0094, you update it in the OS03:28
briman0094now i have to wait for the slow-as-heck ubuntu livecd to boot03:28
briman0094i know03:28
briman0094grub should be able to boot MineOS right?03:28
briman0094if it is installed on /dev/sda2 and windows is on /dev/sda403:29
CaptWhodoes anyone know where i go to install a base system (no gnome)?03:29
zykotick9CaptWho, use the mini cd then (which is basically a debian netinstall)03:30
reisiozykotick9: alternate do that, too?03:30
zykotick9!mini | CaptWho03:30
ubottuCaptWho: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD03:30
urlin2ubriman0094, what is the OS that is kinda hard to answer, most likely grub 2 booots most everything.03:30
danoCaptWho: have you considered the mini install?03:30
briman0094mineos is a Minecraft Server Operating System03:30
zykotick9reisio, alternate installs the regular packages, mini does not03:30
briman0094so the only thing it does is run a minecraft server03:30
CaptWhocan i install gnome 2 on top of it?03:30
zykotick9CaptWho, no03:30
zykotick9CaptWho, if you want Gnome2 use Debian03:31
RadioStaranyone know of a good PHP/XML channel?03:31
danoMini give you the option to customize your install at the end03:31
danoyou can also leave it as a server without adding a desktop manager03:31
urlin2ubriman0094, this is the ubuntu channel do you have a ubuntu imstall?03:31
briman0094i used to03:32
CaptWhois there a way to blow away gnome 3 on a standard install and reinstall gnome 2?03:32
briman0094im using an ubuntu cd to do my work tho03:32
urlin2ubriman0094, good luck.03:32
briman0094thanks?03:32
briman0094any reason why "Try Ubuntu" just froze?03:32
briman0094its spinning the cursor03:32
briman0094and thats it03:32
urlin2ubriman0094, I just have no idea there maybe others will.03:32
danoCaptWho, I'm guessing you can install without a desktop first then add Gnome 2 later03:33
danohaven't done it myself though03:33
zykotick9dano, gnome2 isn't in ubuntu repos - CaptWho forget gnome2 on ubuntu (or use 10.04LTS)03:33
ghubishoaa03:33
CaptWhodano, the standard install doesn't give me the option of installing without a desktop03:33
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danoRight.  see earlier comment about mini03:34
CaptWhodamn03:34
CaptWhookay03:34
s0neeCaptWho: or use arch instead ?03:35
danoCapt: zykotick9 makes a good point. Why are you trying to install Gnome2?03:35
CaptWhos0nee, what's arch?03:36
briman0094i'm getting "segmentation fault (core dumped)" when i do grub-setup03:36
briman0094and update-grub says something about the probe stuff03:36
zykotick9CaptWho, arch is another distro03:36
Ivozhow can I add eclipse as an application?03:36
CaptWhozykotick9, like debian and ubuntu?03:37
briman0094install it from ubuntu software center03:37
Ivozits downloaded eclipse, not installed one03:37
s0neeCaptWho: google arch linux. it does not come with GUI default03:37
Ivozinstalled one refused to update anything03:37
zykotick9CaptWho, NO!!! arch is terrible IMHO03:37
Ivozwhich defeats half the purpose of eclipse03:37
bazhangs0nee, thats not ubuntu support. please stay on topic03:37
Ivozyeah, well, that just like, your opinion, zykotick9.03:38
s0neebazhang: sorry03:38
urlin2ubriman0094, so what is the minecraft based on?03:38
Ivozhow can you add a custom executable file as a app in unity/gnome shell?03:38
ultrixxCaptWho: the ubuntu server edition comes without gui afaik03:38
briman0094java03:39
zykotick9ultrixx, that doesn't change anything regarding installing gnome203:39
CaptWhoultrixx, can i add gnome 2 to that?03:39
briman0094ivoz: i recommend not using unity03:39
zykotick9CaptWho, no!03:39
briman0094your choise, but i recommend not using it03:39
CaptWholol03:39
Technicus|2I figured it out . . . it was not the Nvidia driver conflicting, it was the Ati driver.  Thanks for the help.03:39
CaptWhoi'm going for debian03:39
Ivozbriman0094: im actually not, using gnome hsell atm03:39
zykotick9CaptWho, Ubuntu 10.04LTS uses Gnome2 and is a supported version03:39
briman0094oh03:39
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ultrixxCaptWho: sorry i misunderstood you. "does anyone know where i go to install a base system (no gnome)?" was what i read03:41
TASKIncredible power consumption with Ubuntu 11.10 here. Win7 = 9h, in contrast 11.10 = 1.5h :(03:41
ultrixxCaptWho: so i thought you just wanted a text based install03:41
IvozCaptWho: use gnome 3, it is the way of the futurez03:41
CaptWhothat was the original question, but i just wanted to install gnome2 on top of it03:42
CaptWhoand gnome3 reeks03:42
newhoaHey everyone... I'm having a problem converting an SVG to PDF with inkscape. I think I'm hitting a RAM limit. Is there a way to force terminal commands to use swap instead?03:42
s0neeTASK: your laptop has a discrete graphic card ?03:42
danoCaptWho, the 10.04 LTS suggestion is a good one.03:42
ultrixxCaptWho: linux mint is based on ubuntu and comes with gnome 2. you can also install 10.04 or 10.10, which also come with gnome 203:42
TASKs0nee: Asus Aspire 4830TG, yes03:42
danoGnome 2 by defautl03:42
mrmcgibby2how do I change the window decoration style in 11.10?03:43
ultrixxCaptWho: and i read about some people who offer a ppa with gnome 2 for 11.1003:43
Ivozgnome tweak tool can change that03:43
s0neeTASK: try the acpi_call method from http://linux-hybrid-graphics.blogspot.com/ it works for me03:43
Ivozgnome 2 will stop getting updates03:43
mrmcgibby2where do I get that?03:43
CaptWhoi had 10.10 installed and it kept breaking.  i lost my user interface devices and couldn't get them back.  i really don't want to run into that again03:43
briman0094somehow i need to chroot into my partition03:44
briman0094how?03:44
ultrixxCaptWho: how did you do that?03:45
CaptWhoultrixx, what's a ppa?03:45
zykotick9!ppa | CaptWho03:45
ubottuCaptWho: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa03:45
CaptWhoand how did i do what?03:45
ultrixxCaptWho: break 10.10 ui03:46
CaptWhoevil spirits?03:46
Ivozmrmcgibby2: sudo apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool03:46
mrmcgibby2thanks03:46
newhoaOr... does anyone know how to convert an SVG to PDF without inkscape?03:46
CaptWhoactually the user interface devices03:46
urlin2uCaptWho, sounds like your problems were user error it wont matter what OS you run, if you're not careful03:46
mrmcgibby2newhoa: You could open it in a browser, then print to PDF03:47
newhoaI tried that... it turned out very distorted.03:47
TASKs0nee: so I have to switch off the NV card? Ok, I try it thanks03:47
mrmcgibby2why don't you want to use inkscape?03:47
s0neeTASK: np.03:48
CaptWhoi couldn't get the netbook keyboard and the touchpad to respond...  i tried some fixes off the net and borked the system03:48
newhoamrmcgibby2: Inkscape keeps aborting on me. I think it's a RAM limit issue. I don't know how to force using swap, though.03:49
zykotick9newhoa, you can't (wouldn't want) to force swap to be used - it will be used when the kernel needs it.  Have you checked in "top" of "free -m" while running the program to even see if it uses much memory?03:50
Aleohello all03:51
Aleoplease help me03:51
Aleo:)03:51
s0nee!ask | Aleo03:51
ubottuAleo: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience03:51
mrmcgibby2newhoa: you could try doing it from the command line inkscapec -P out.pdf in.svg03:51
AleoHow I revert to Ubuntu original boot screen03:51
* CaptWho passes Aleo a dime03:52
KyeRussellRunning Ubuntu 11.10 w/ encrypted home directories turned on;  got SSH keys working by putting the authorized_keys file somewhere outside of my home directory, but now my home directory isn't mounting upon connection.  I can mount if after, but that means my .bashrc.etc isn't read on logon.  Any ideas?03:52
jadonim wanting to setup a ram disk for a minecraft server to hold the world any links to helpfull documentations?03:52
AleoI have made a new install, then done some things on the site Things to tweak after install and don't know why I get a blue boot screen instead of the Ubuntu one03:52
IceicebabyIs there a good alternative to "kontact"? It uses to much ressources for my computer.03:53
s0neeAleo: you mean GRUB (where you choose OS) or the ubuntu screen with 4 dots ?03:53
bazhangAleo, on what site03:53
urlin2uAleo, you have a standard partitioned install or a wubi?03:53
AleoI mean the Ubuntu login screen03:53
Aleourlin2u, no I installed on a virtual box03:54
bazhangAleo, some 3rd party website?03:54
ultrixxIceicebaby: have you tried evolution or thunderbird with calendar extension?03:54
Aleobazhang, yes, I will show you the site03:54
bazhangAleo, no need03:54
IceicebabyAleo, go to the sessionmanager there you have to disable autologin.03:54
newhoazykotick9, I watched in gnome-system-monitor... it uses up all the ram, and then the terminal outputs: GLib-ERROR **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.28.8/./glib/gmem.c:170: failed to allocate 2091325920 bytes03:54
newhoaaborting...03:54
Aleobut this is strange I have done the same things like install the gnome shell03:54
s0neeKyeRussell: if .bashrc isnt read, then check .bash_profile in your home folder ?03:55
Iceicebabyultrixx: Does Evolution work on lxde?03:55
zykotick9newhoa, wow - good luck with that.03:55
ultrixxIceicebaby: why not?03:55
AleoIceicebaby, where ? I have to put the pass and it like I want03:55
ultrixxIceicebaby: i havent't tried it on lxde yet03:56
newhoazykotick9, so it's not gonna happen without more ram?03:56
Iceicebabyultrixx: Well, I will try it out now. Thank you :-)03:56
ultrixxIceicebaby: you are welcome03:56
zykotick9newhoa, not sure - but that's isn't a friendly error message :(03:57
TASKIf I switch from Unity to Gnome 3 shell, how much bandwidth do I really need... Softwarecenter shows me only a few MB..03:57
Aleoguess I have not explained well, sorry, the problem is that the login screen is not the Ubuntu original with the login on the left and the Ubuntu colors, it is a blue one with a background image, but I can log in as Gnome or Ubuntu or even KDE, and I have not installed KDE03:57
Aleostrange this03:57
bazhangAleo, thats why following 3rd party websites is not a good idea03:58
newhoazykotick9, I'm not sure what it means. I just assume it's ram because I can get up to 60dpi, then from there it just decides it doesn't want to do any more.03:58
sandra_Hello my fellow Ubuntu inmates :-)03:58
sandra_I trust you all are doing well.03:58
urlin2usandra_, inmates lol03:58
Aleobazhang, it is this one http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html03:59
sandra_I have what may seem like a large spectrum question.03:59
trbhow do I know wif I have 32 or 64 bit version?03:59
zykotick9trb, in terminal "uname -m"03:59
Aleobut I have not done nothing different than I have done the other time I installed03:59
bazhangAleo, and that is not supported here03:59
Aleohmmm03:59
briman0094i still can't get this to work04:00
Aleoso where I choose the login screen to have again the Ubuntu default ?04:00
sandra_I have reloaded Ubuntu 11.04 on my HP-HDX-18-Notebook04:00
trbit returns i68604:00
trbwhat that mean?04:00
ultrixxtrb: 3204:00
KyeRussells0nee: it isn't read because it can't be accessed when I first SSH in, I have to mount my home directory each time I log in04:00
ultrixxtrb: 32 bit04:00
trbok thanks04:01
sandra_why is it 11.04 boots up faster and shuts down faster then 11.10 and I can see visible difference in speed as far as desktop performance goes.04:01
trbI am having trouble with a program MPLABX that runs in java netbeans04:01
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pipaloHow can I change how can I change the defualt player ?04:01
trbI am not getting the permissions to write all the files duriing a build04:02
s0neeKyeRussell: hmmm then you should check the ssh configuration files in /etc04:02
trbany ideas?04:02
sandra_I'm fairly new to Linux can someone please tell how long does it take for a new release to iron out it's bugs?04:02
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nac-godfatherhate the usb wireless support04:02
sandra_in this case 11.10 which seems slower then 11.0404:02
nac-godfathercome on people, let's build some injection supported drivers for these puppies04:02
urlin2usandra_, hard to say really, did you turn off some startup apps in Natty?04:02
sandra_Has anyone else found this to be the case for them ?04:03
Aleowhere is session manager ?04:03
sandra_urlin2u, that's just it natty is much faster then Oneiric.04:03
urlin2usandra_, it seemed a bit clunky to me as well so I went to precise04:04
sandra_urlin2u, what is precise ?04:05
zykotick9sander_, due to the cutting edge of ubuntu packages, you should always expect some bugs04:05
s0neeKyeRussell: check this http://superuser.com/questions/204787/how-can-i-mount-an-encrypted-home-directory-upon-ssh-login-using-private-public04:05
urlin2usandra_, It is the next release, not really available yet.04:06
ultrixxsandra_: what hardware do you use? a netbook?04:06
urlin2usandra_, I'm using Natty most of the time.04:07
sandra_urlin2u, Sadly I would have to say that Oneiric 11.10 is not ready for prime time or day to day use.04:07
KyeRussellSweet s0nee, thanks.04:07
sandra_ultrixx, I have a fairly high end Laptop04:07
julian_cI'd say that lightdm needs a decent amount of work.04:08
Aleoguess nobody can help me on getting back the ubuntu original login screen04:08
Aleo....04:08
Aleodid not want to install all again04:08
ultrixxsandra_: it should run 11.10 more than good enough if it is high end. i have 11.10 on my atom netbook and it works04:08
s0neeAleo: try the forums ?04:08
bazhangAleo, undo the changes from that 3rd party website04:08
ultrixxsandra_: have you installed the additional drivers?04:08
pipaloHow can I integrate VLC or anyother player in 11.10 instead of banshee ?04:08
sandra_ultrixx, Oh I don't doubt it runs it on a netbook. But Oneiric is not faster then Natty as far start up and shut down and desktop speed.04:09
ultrixxsandra_: have you installed the graphics drivers?04:10
sandra_sadly even my image rendering is faster on natty then on oneiric04:10
urlin2upipalo, vlc is in the repos04:10
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newhoaWell... don't think this thing is going to happen on my PC. Thanks anyway everyone.04:11
Aleos0nee, and bazhang I am trying to search for a solution04:11
sandra_ultrixx, I'm running nvidia's 290.03 video driver which runs extremly fast and well on natty but sadly Oneiric didn't handle my video drivers well.04:12
ultrixxsandra_: so they are not installed?04:12
jam2011how can I manually install a bootloader on my machine04:12
FirefisheI'm trying something unusual:  I have an asus g50v laptop.  I want to try my luck using the thinkpad_apci module and a small gtk-based fan-control program.  Here is the output of my modprobe commands: http://paste.ubuntu.com/722890/ -- My question is, is this because I'm not x86 based, but x86_64, or will this just not work on anything but a thinkpad?04:12
zykotick9!grub2 | jam201104:12
ubottujam2011: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)04:12
sandra_ultrixx, I am running nvidia 290.3 as we speak on natty.04:13
enzopremeanyone know where i can find the drivers for intel hd graphics? i cant get the display to show on my tv via hdmi04:13
newhoaBefore I go though... Would anyone here with 4GB+ of RAM be willing to help me with a file conversion?! I would appreciate it so much! But I know it's kind of going out of ones way, so if not it's understandable.04:13
jam2011ubottu: I got the message that there was an error in my bootloader and that I will have to manually install it, as I was completing my installation of ubuntu 11.10 after completing wiping out and partitioning my previous version04:14
ubottujam2011: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)04:14
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 jam2011 this link please04:15
linussince upgrading to 11.10 when I try and start pulse audio I keep getting this error  "[pulseaudio] module-combine.c: We will now load module-combine-sink. Please make sure to remove module-combine from your configuration." but I cant find module-combine in any configuration file. any tips on where to look?04:15
sandra_linus, what version of Ubuntu are you currently running?04:17
StarminnWhy can't CTRL be used in a keyboard shortcut combination in Ubuntu 11.10?04:17
linus@sandra 11.1004:17
sandra_linus, pains me to say this but I don't think 11.10 is ready for prime time use.04:18
sandra_linus, I tried and struggled with 11.10 but wound up going back to 11.04 which is running faster and far more smoothly then 11.10 did.04:18
haylo-bot_11.04 was ugly as sin i almost through my laptop out the window04:19
linusgoing back isnt really an option, too many packages to manually revert04:19
haylo-bot_pnobuntu but needs a supercomputer to run properly04:20
haylo-bot_phonebuntu04:20
ultrixxsandra_: ever thought about trying kubuntu 11.10? it is awesome04:20
jam2011i am in pretty bad shape... I am not able to boot at all into my desktop pc04:20
s0neeStarminn: you cant use combination or you cant create custom combination ?04:20
linusI find it is always a challenge to get thing reconfigured with a new release. but it is fun04:20
sandra_linus, how about a fresh install of 11.04 ? I use the Super OS which is Ubuntu with multimedia extensions  etc. etc. etc.04:21
haylo-bot_sry i like 11.04 not 11.1004:21
linus@jam2011 do you see the grub boot loader?04:21
haylo-bot_yeah 11.04 is working better tahn ever it is pretty awesome04:21
jam2011@linus: no04:21
Starminns0nee, I wish to make gedit launch on CTRL+ALT+G; however when I press the combination for "Keyboard Shortcuts" to grab it, CTRL is never picked up on.04:21
urlin2ujam2011, did you look at the link bazhang gave you.04:21
linusIm not going to format my hard drive just to fix one error witj pulse audio04:21
Starminns0nee, So, custom04:21
jam2011urlin2u: I already formatted the comp and am freshly installing the new version... I am parallely chatting from my laptop comp04:22
s0neeStarminn: hmm it works for me04:22
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urlin2ujam2011, good then use the channel for help you aqctually need not a bait to chat, this is not a chat channel but ubuntu-offtopic is.04:23
urlin2uactually*04:23
sandra_ultrixx, I did try   Kubuntu. Also tried Xubuntu which I thought was very goo04:23
jam2011urlin2u: Does that mean that I cannot seek help in this channel04:24
linusi think lubuntu does a much better job of doing what xubuntu claims to do04:24
urlin2ujam2011, no it is just a that you just admitted that you aree reinstalling after clain=ming to still have a problem, or am I wrong here.04:24
urlin2uclaiming*04:24
reisiolinus: not sure Xubuntu claims to do that04:25
Starminns0nee, Any suggestions?04:25
s0neeStarminn: edit config files or use tools04:25
linusgoogle xubuntu "An official version of Ubuntu Linux that uses the XFCE desktop environment. Designed for low-specification computers."04:26
jam2011urlin2u: I had the problem after formatting and installing ubuntu... now I am stuck not able to startup or use my comp at all04:26
s0neeStarminn: you can use gconf-editor here. but it looks outdated http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-create-keyboard-shortcuts-in-gnome/04:26
urlin2ujam2011, then read this this as suggested, look in section 12 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Upgrading04:27
sandra_linus, Xubuntu does very well on a old pentium 4 I have.04:27
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reisioGNOME can work on a pentium 4, too, though04:28
Iceicebabyxubuntu pretends to be less ressource hungry.04:28
IceicebabyBack in the days it was, but nowadays not.04:29
linus@sandra if you think xubuntu does well try lubuntu and youll be blown away. "sudo apt-get install lxde" then select the appropriate session from litedm or gdm04:29
MikeChelenIceicebaby: look at memory usage after boot compared with default ubuntu04:29
IceicebabyYou should use lxde instead.04:29
MikeChelenit depends what the system specs are04:29
sandra_reisio, I don't think it's a question of gnome or Xfce works they both do but Xfce and Xubuntu does run faster on my old pentium 4 then Ubuntu 11.10 does.04:30
Iceicebabyxubuntu still need about 300mb RAM its not much less than Ubuntu Unity (450mb RAM)04:30
Iceicebabylxde needs about 80-110mb RAM04:30
jam2011urlin2u thanks04:31
linusyes xfce will run faster then gnome or unity or gnome3 but lxde is the fastest unless you only use a window manager like jwm or fluxbox04:31
urlin2ujam2011, no problem hope that is the answer.04:31
ruybragalubuntu is good for old computers. I use it in virtual machines too.04:31
IceicebabyI was using fluxbox too. It needs about 50-60mb RAM. But well, its difficult to get a good running menu (for a more or less newbie like me)04:32
vladimir_If I have my friend ssh'd into my box on pts/1, how can I get onto pts1 so we can goof off?04:33
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Starminnsandra_, On my Pentium 4, Unity, GNOME Shell, and Xfce run all the same unless I've got more than 6 apps open at once. *shrug* Of course it's 3Ghz too, but still.04:34
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Starminnsandra_, This is on Ubuntu 11.10 though not Xubuntu itself.04:34
bazhangsandra_, since you are not using ubuntu, it's not the issue04:35
bazhangsandra_, SUPER OS is not ubuntu, and thus not supported here04:35
IceicebabyI have an 1GHz Pentium 3 and lxde is running well here.04:35
IceicebabySuper OS? never hear about that. Is it a debian derivate too?04:36
sandra_bazhang, Excuse me your wrong I'm running Ubuntu 11.04 which is natty04:36
goodnerdhello04:36
linusubuntu/xubuntu/lubuntu the difference is symantic. if you are claiming this is the wrong room for disscusion04:36
goodnerdhey what does this command do: which 5sh04:36
MeganLWoulffeUbuntu 11.10 is not saving my brightness setting between sessions04:37
sharegoodnerd: that doesn't exist for me04:37
sandra_Iceicebaby, you can find it on Linuxfreedom.com04:37
goodnerdhmmm04:37
Starminnlinus, There are dedicated channels of reach of those.04:37
Starminnfor each*04:38
zykotick9goodnerd, "which foo" will show the path for a particular command, so 5sh would have to be an installed command04:38
linusif you can install the packages for lxde or xfce from ubuntu. then why arent you still using ubuntu?04:38
Cheap_ScotsmanSo I clean installed Win7 on my new HDD last night (fingers crossed) and am now hoping to set up a partition for Ubuntu and am hoping to have it hold half the drive. I have been reading that upwards of 4 partitions are wise for Ubuntu, does anyone have any advice on the best steps to complete this starting with Win7?04:38
Aleois there any command to revert to the original ubuntu login screen ?04:39
urlin2uCheap_Scotsman, upwards of 4 partitions?04:39
Aleoalready searched and nothing04:39
linusare you going to limit the discusion in here to only unity windows manager? because I still like using gnome3 more because it is faster then unity2d04:39
Aleodon't know why mine have changed04:39
xangualinus: nonsense, unity uses gnome04:39
Cheap_Scotsmanurlin2u: For swap, boot, etc. I have never done a partition before though so I could be quite off.04:39
Starminnlinus, Because Xub* and Lb* come with different packages and slight variations. The channels for the derivatives are so that people especially knowledgable in that field may provide support.04:40
FirefisheIs there a way to control laptop fan speed when your laptop main board does not have pwm circuitry?04:40
linus@aleo you could try apt-get remove litedm and apt-get install gdm04:40
Starminnlinus, If you are using "Ubuntu" with no prefix nor suffix, this is the place. Else, ask us to lead you where to go.04:40
Aleolinus, going to try thks04:40
urlin2uCheap_Scotsman, no boot partition, just choose the install in the free space option.04:40
Aleolinus, don't know why this blue login screen with a background appeared04:41
Aleo:)04:41
zykotick9Cheap_Scotsman, i'd recommend you start with only 2 partitions, a root partition "/" and a swap partition -- easier to manage04:41
MeganLWoulffeUbuntu 11.10 is not saving my brightness setting between sessions04:41
Cheap_Scotsmanurlin2u, So all these tech blogs calling for manual partitions are full of crap?04:41
Cheap_Scotsmanzykotick9, And should I set this up in the Win7 hard disc format tool or in the Ubuntu install cd after booting Win7?04:42
Cheap_Scotsmansykotick9 CD = process04:42
linuslitedm has replace the gnome display manager as the default in 11.10 but you should still be able to switch back04:42
zykotick9Cheap_Scotsman, no, use the livecd installer04:42
Aleolinus, the commands did not worked04:42
urlin2uCheap_Scotsman, not sure what you have been reading or when they were published, follow zykotick9 advice.04:42
Cheap_Scotsmanurlin2u, appreciate yours as well thanks.04:43
zykotick9Cheap_Scotsman, are you planning to run the installer inside windows?  (called Wubi) if so, it doesn't use real partitions anyways [BTW i wouldn't recommend using Wubi]04:43
Cheap_Scotsmanzykotick9: I was initially just going to partition everything through ubuntu on a clean install, but people here told me to do Win7 first then Ubuntu for the dual boot. I just intend on doing whatever proves easiest and most reliable04:45
MeganLWoulffeUbuntu 11.10 is not saving my brightness setting between sessions04:46
Cheap_Scotsmanzykotick9: The tech blogs are rather all over the map on this process in my reading thus far.04:46
zykotick9Cheap_Scotsman, is win7 installed now?04:46
Cheap_Scotsmanzykotick9: Yes it is, and I have my 11.04 DVD04:47
Firefishezykotick9: He may also want to read up on linux partitioning in general.  It's also wise to consider manual resizing and partitioning (in that order) if the Use Free Space option might do something weird.  If there's a ton of free space, it probably won't matter.04:47
zykotick9Cheap_Scotsman, good, then just boot the livecd and select the "install beside" (or similar worded) option.04:47
Cheap_Scotsmanzykotick9: Okay, and this will give me an option for setting the amount of space to leave to ubuntu?04:47
zykotick9Cheap_Scotsman, yup04:47
Cheap_Scotsmanzykotick9: Perfect. And do I set the two partitions for Ubuntu or does it do that itself?04:48
MeganLWoulffeUbuntu 11.10 is not saving my brightness setting between sessions. any idea how to fix it?04:48
zykotick9Cheap_Scotsman, installer will do it for you04:48
opticlovei made an ubuntu live cd and its still booting up ubuntu even though the CD is out04:48
opticloveno, i didn't install ubuntu04:48
xangua!repeat | MeganLWoulffe04:49
ubottuMeganLWoulffe: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/04:49
Cheap_Scotsmanzykotick9: Sounds deceptively simple. And after Ubuntu is installed how will I navigate between choosing which OS to boot? Or are there programs for that?04:49
xanguaCheap_Scotsman: yes, grub04:49
zykotick9Cheap_Scotsman, installer will look after that too.  Grub will allow you to choose windows or ubuntu04:49
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MeganLWoulffefair enough04:49
Cheap_Scotsmanzykotick9, and grub launches in 7 or ubuntu?04:49
StarminnCheap_Scotsman, You just restart your system and choose when you turn it on04:49
zykotick9Cheap_Scotsman, before either technically04:50
zykotick9Cheap_Scotsman, COMPUTER ON -> BIOS -> Grub -> Ubuntu or Windows04:51
Cheap_Scotsmanzykotick9: Excellent. Thanks for the info I'm going to try it out shortly04:51
Cheap_Scotsmanstarminn: thanks04:51
zykotick9Cheap_Scotsman, good luck!04:51
opticloveoops, i forgot i had a usb drive attached...04:52
opticlovelol04:52
opticlovescared me for a second :{04:52
Gskelligwhere do icons go when i install something (like google chrome)04:53
Gskelligwhere can i find the icon for google chrome04:53
ejvwhat's the proper netstat option to list only active listening internet connections04:54
rams_panduhi all, I have a usb pendrive. its not getting detected by ubuntu 10.04. I can see it got listed in "lsusb". but I cant use it. any help please?04:54
_deXter_rams_pandu, What brand is it?04:54
rams_panduit is digimate pendrive, 1gb pendrive04:56
zykotick9Gskellig, try /usr/share/pixmaps/04:56
rams_pandu_deXter_, it is digimate pendrive, 1gb pendrive04:57
s0neerams_pandu: try ls /dev to see if its in there ?04:57
_deXter_rams_pandu, insert the usb drive and then do a dmesg | tail04:58
_deXter_and see for any error messages04:58
Gskelligzykotick9, theres no google chrome in pixmaps04:59
GskelligI can't even find the google chrome install directory04:59
GskelligANYWHERE04:59
Gskelligjust cache and config04:59
_deXter_rams_pandu, But it sounds like it's a cheap chinese make drive; unfortunately some of them have issues in Linux .. and stability issues in general (I speak from experience)04:59
rams_pandu_deXter_, I donot find any error in the output04:59
zykotick9Gskellig, did you install with a DEB?  "dpkg -L NAME_OF_GOOGLE_CHROME" for a list of what it installed.04:59
Gskelligi used aptitude04:59
zykotick9Gskellig, it'll work then05:00
_deXter_rams_pandu, see if it's visible in GParted, and see if you can format it from there05:00
rams_pandu_deXter_, it is not visible in gparted05:00
zykotick9rams_pandu, what does dmesg say about the drive (if not an error)?05:02
Gskellig/opt/google/chrome05:03
Gskelligthats really weird05:03
Gskelligthanks zykotick905:03
Fudgehi do english peole need language-pack-gnome-en-base05:03
html?05:03
zykotick9Gskellig, actually /opt makes sense (i should have thought of that)05:03
htmlwow this is dead05:04
htmlin here05:04
Gskelligits the only thing installed in /opt05:04
zykotick9Gskellig, probably the only thing you've installed from outside of Ubuntu ;)05:04
GskelligI did just reinstall ubuntu earlier today05:04
Gskelligi've installed quite a few things though...05:04
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BlackDalekI just had to re-install everything (due to massive failure of oneiric).. anyway, I am back to the good old maverick 10.10 now.. howver, I was trying to configure an external display (tv) but I seem to have done something wrong, because now I can't get gdm to start. I am thrown into virtual terminal every login.  How do I reconfigure X again so that I can get out of terminal?05:05
zykotick9Gskellig, and why use chrome when there is chromium?  Like being tracked do you?05:05
rams_panduzykotick9, here is the output of dmesg | tail...http://pastebin.com/9U0QgBhW05:05
Gskelligzykotick9, whats the difference?05:05
zykotick9Gskellig, google-chome is older version, and includes google tracking stuff.05:06
GskelligALL the same plugins work?05:06
BlackDalekI get "Ubuntu 10.10 dalek-laptop tty1" at startup now... how do I fix X so that gnome desktop will load again?05:06
s0neeBlackDalek: "sudo Xorg -configure"05:07
zykotick9rams_pandu, sorry - i don't see anything related to a HD there, did you plug a USB mouse in instead?  HID = Human Interface Device05:07
zmbmartinIs there any good reason to install the 3.1 kernel? Does it fix some of the power regressions that have happened?05:07
s0neeBlackDalek: then check for a file in the current dir "xorg.conf.new"05:07
StarminnGskellig, Chromium is opensource (Chrome is not), and, as zykotick9 said, Chrome also contains a ton of things which Google can track you with, whereas the vast majority is disabled in Chromium. Chromium is always newer, and yes, all the same plugins work.05:07
BlackDalek...and move it to replace old one.05:08
s0neeBlackDalek: yes05:08
BlackDalekI remember now05:08
rams_panduzykotick9, when I insert this pendrive in a windows machine. it's getting detecting. but when I tried formatting it, windows says, windows cannot format the disk05:10
haylo-bot_youjust ned to get a pen drive that works and learn how to format it with winblowz05:11
zykotick9rams_pandu, sorry windows failures don't interest (or help) me at all.  try plugging it back into ubuntu and try the tail command again.05:11
areichmanhello everybody. I just installed handbrake on ubuntu 11.04 and used the apple universal preset to try and rip some DVD's (in .iso format) to something itunes can understand. The process seemed to go find but quicktime won't play it and itunes silently fails when I try and add it to my library. Does anybody have any ideas05:13
MikeChelenfglrx is not working on my amd fusion chipset, even after trying fglrx, fglrx-updates, and direct download from amd05:13
rams_panduzykotick9, does this helps???...http://pastebin.com/6THEagfw05:13
zykotick9rams_pandu, if this is a 1GB stick then that looks like it.05:14
sudiptans2 does not work in 11.10?complains about a version conflict of tcl8.5...it needs exactly version 8.4.Any help?I have installed tcl8.4,but nothing05:15
pumkinhed_hi #ubuntu, love the new 11.10, i run it off a usb stick on my laptop with no internal HD (it died), but i have a minor problem on boot.  it complains that fd0 has io errors, but this machine has no floppy drive05:15
dr_willispumkinhed_:  theres some options to not scan for floppy i recall in either the /etc/default/grub  or the /etc/grub.d/* files.05:16
pumkinhed_ah05:16
dr_willispumkinhed_:  seen them mentioned ages ago. No floppies here either.05:16
sudiptans2 does not work in 11.10?complains about a version conflict of tcl8.5...it needs exactly version 8.4.Any help?I have installed tcl8.4,but nothing05:17
rams_panduzykotick9, I see the same output when I again try "dmseg|tail"05:17
zykotick9rams_pandu, so was that fdisk output from before then?  it wasn't current?05:17
dr_willispumkinhed_:  i cant seem to find the option - i do recall there being some no-floppy options somewhere..05:18
pumkinhed_https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/568720 via google05:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 568720 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Error scanning for fd0 on boot" [Undecided,Confirmed]05:19
pumkinhed_ah it may be a bios tweak05:19
pumkinhed_i am going to try that brb05:19
dr_willishttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275  has some good grub docs.05:19
MikeChelenfglrx is still not working on amd fusion, even after trying fglrx package, fglrx-updates, and direct download from amd05:20
zykotick9dr_willis, "grub-install --no-floppy" ;)05:20
sudiptans2 does not work in 11.10?complains about a version conflict of tcl8.5...it needs exactly version 8.4.Any help?I have installed tcl8.4,but nothing05:20
* dr_willis wonders what 'ns2' is05:21
urlin2udr_willis, a game05:21
pompahi all. can you please teach me how can I clean my font cache?05:21
dr_willissudipta:  perhaps you need to some how make  the tcl8.4 the default. or check/edit the game scripts and make it call tcl8.4 specifically05:21
rams_panduzykotick9, here is the output of fsidk -l...http://pastebin.com/M2MzkksE05:21
zykotick9rams_pandu, looks like /dev/sdc: 1039 MB is empty?05:22
sudipta<dr_willis>what on earth is game script?05:23
pompaI have some hundred font in the download folder which I do not want to load. Unfortunately with fc-cache they have been cached and now I don't know how to remove them05:23
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rams_panduzykotick9, what shall I do now?05:24
zykotick9rams_pandu, does gparted see it now?05:24
dr_willissudipta:  you said it was a game.. thats using/writtin in python.. so theres python scripts its using...05:24
zykotick9dr_willis, i'm not sure it's a game.  Network Simulator perhaps?05:24
rams_panduzykotick9, it does not05:25
zykotick9rams_pandu, sorry i have no ideas.  hopefully someone else can lend you a hand.05:25
sudipta<dr_willis>it is not a game..network simulator05:25
dr_williscommon issue is for programs to be calling for example /sbin/tcl8.6 then break with a newer version. where they should be calling  for example /sbin/tcl8.505:25
rams_panduzykotick9, ok. thank you for spending time with my problem:-)05:26
zykotick9rams_pandu, good luck05:26
dr_willisor they use the generic curent installed version like /sbin/tcl05:26
dr_willis!info ns05:26
ubottuPackage ns does not exist in oneiric05:26
dr_willis!info ns205:26
ubottuns2 (source: ns2): a discrete event simulator targeted at networking research. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.35~RC6-4ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 4824 kB, installed size 12516 kB05:26
zaoul1ubuntu05:27
pumkinhed__dr_willis, yes, bios tweak fixed the problem, which was painfully slow boot, ~5minutes.05:27
dr_willisns2 here - is installing tk8.5 it seems05:27
zaoul1we are ON the Internet05:28
sudipta<dr_willis>yeah....but upon running it says it needs version 8.405:29
dr_willisit did not say it here.. i just installed it.05:29
zaoul1what is the most Linux compatible cheese?05:29
MikeChelenfglrx is still not working on my amd fusion, even after trying fglrx package, fglrx-updates, and direct download from amd05:29
dr_willisdid you install from a clean install or upgrade sudipta ?05:29
dr_willis!info cheese05:29
ubottucheese (source: cheese): tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.0-0ubuntu2 (oneiric), package size 45 kB, installed size 320 kB05:29
sudipta<dr_willis>clean install05:30
dr_willissudipta:  no idea then.   ive never used the ns2 program. I just installed ns2, and ran it with 'ns' and got some Prompt. no error messages..05:30
sudipta<dr_willis>it needs a tcl script05:31
jadonhow do i reconnect to a screen05:32
dr_willisa screen session ? theres the -r option i recall.05:32
pumkinhed__jadon screen -r05:32
buff27jadon, screen -r05:32
dr_willisscreen --help05:32
pumkinhed__ouch, whats next, man screen?05:33
pumkinhed__lol05:33
jadoni already read the man page05:33
dr_willispumkinhed__:  or reading the man pages to him...05:33
jadonThere is no screen to be resumed.05:33
dr_willisscreen --help -> -r            Reattach to a detached screen process.05:33
dr_willis-R            Reattach if possible, otherwise start a new session.05:33
jadonboth sessions are attatched05:34
pumkinhed__jadon, perhaps you started screen as su, try w and seeing who is logged in05:34
sharewhat is OTR for?05:34
sharewrong channel.05:34
jadonThere are screens on:05:34
jadon        1719.pts-0.owner-MCserver       (10/29/2011 10:22:18 PM)        (Attached)05:34
jadon        1540.pts-0.owner-MCserver       (10/29/2011 09:46:06 PM)        (Attached)05:34
jadon2 Sockets in /var/run/screen/S-owner.05:34
FloodBot1jadon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:34
jadonsorry mr bot05:34
dr_willis-x            Attach to a not detached screen. (Multi display mode).05:35
jadonhow do i resume one of those screens05:35
dr_williseventually i will paste all of 'screen --help' :)05:35
dr_willisMulti display is nifty.05:35
pumkinhed__dr_willis, dont try to paste too much or floodbot...05:36
jadonwoah05:36
dr_willisi also tend to use byobu instead of screen. seems tomake life easier.05:36
jadoni just disscovered --help05:36
dr_willismost commands have --help these days05:37
dr_willisyou may want to explore byobu also jadon .05:37
jadonkthnks05:37
jadonAttaching from inside of screen?05:37
jadonhow do i kill/exit a screen session05:38
jadon?05:38
jadonim ssh'ed into a server05:38
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s0neejadon: take a look at this guide http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi05:39
jadonoh thanks05:39
jadonthis looks good05:39
dr_willisi just use byobu which is screen on steroids. :) i ssh in and it auto reatatches for me05:39
dr_willistheres some other alternatives to screen also. but i havent used them much.05:40
dr_willis!info tmux05:40
ubottutmux (source: tmux): terminal multiplexer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5-1 (oneiric), package size 208 kB, installed size 508 kB05:40
lcsolitaryhello , everyone05:41
sharehi05:41
s0neeshare: lcsolitary hello05:41
lcsolitaryi am use this IRC first ,05:42
lcsolitaryi use this IRC first ,05:42
sharelcsolitary: don't run a program as root lol05:42
share!cn | lcsolitary05:43
ubottulcsolitary: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw05:43
JusticeZeroHey, does anyone have any tips on how I can diagnose my bad internet? It's not on my end, but I feel like I should be able to slap the network admin with statistics like a dead fish. This is the same guy who told me that my computer must be ancient from looking at me on the login list. :p05:43
lcsolitaryoh , i see05:43
lcsolitary试一下,中文05:44
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daeosI recently upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and want to know why is it that when I installed zsnes that all of my other games were uninstalled (ex. OpenArena & Mana World) and when I try to install any other game, zsnes is said to be removed.05:46
share!english | lcsolitary05:46
ubottulcsolitary: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList05:46
lcsolitaryshare ,ok.05:46
share:)05:46
jadon@s0nee that link was awesome05:47
s0neejadon: cool.05:47
dr_willis!info openarena05:47
ubottuopenarena (source: openarena): fast-paced 3D first-person shooter. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.5-10 (oneiric), package size 29 kB, installed size 140 kB05:47
lcsolitaryi don't know how to use this program05:47
dr_williszsnes did not remove openarena here.. or visa-versa05:48
JusticeZerowhick program lcsolitary, the irc client?05:48
dr_willisdaeos:  this a 32bit or 64bit system?05:48
lcsolitaryyes05:48
JusticeZerolcsolitary, well, so far you're doing okay.. which client is it and what are you trying to do?05:49
daeosdr_willis: 64bit , this only occured after installing zsnes .. about 300mb of software was removed just to install zsnes and if I try to add any of them back I see that synaptic AND apt-get want to remove zsnes05:49
lcsolitarythe GUI is so simple that i can't operate it for more action05:50
dr_willisdaeos:  zsnes is a 32bit  only binary last i checked.. i couldent  even get it to install on 64bit installs.05:50
MikeChelendaeos: try pastebinning the output from apt-get before confirming install05:50
dr_willisi just tried it on a 32bit system.. let me fire up my other laptop.05:50
JusticeZerolcsolitary what do you mean 'more action'?05:50
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lcsolitarysuch as , more info about someone and chat with him/her05:52
daeoshttp://pastebin.com/q8S2vKcY05:52
JusticeZeroWhat client are you using, and did you try rightclicking their name..? Not that there is much information attached to anyone, this is irc.05:52
dr_willis!info snes9x05:53
ubottuPackage snes9x does not exist in oneiric05:53
dr_willis!info maverick snes9x05:53
ubottu'snes9x' is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, maverick, maverick-backports, maverick-proposed, medibuntu, natty, natty-backports, natty-proposed, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, stable, testing, unstable05:53
dr_willis!info  snes9x maverick05:54
ubottuPackage snes9x does not exist in maverick05:54
lcsolitarya client named xchat lite ....05:54
MikeChelendaeos: it looks like different, incompatible versions of libsdl1.2debian-alsa05:54
dr_willisHmm. used to use that on my 64bit installs ages ago..05:54
daeosah05:54
MikeChelendaeos: openarena wants 64 bit, zsnes wants 32bit05:54
zykotick9daeos, zsnes is 32bit only thus the libs are libsdl1.2debian:i386 but the other programs require the 64bit version and (i now guess) require removing the 32bit versions - and thus zsnes05:55
daeosyeah, jeeze.. so I can't have both installed?05:55
JusticeZerowell, irc is not a very featureful system to begin with. that said did you try rightclicking on a name?05:55
dr_willismust be how the 11.10 is handleing the 32bit on 64 bit os feature i read about.05:55
dr_willisdaeos:  you are lucky you can even install znes this way. :) befor this release. it was 32bit only.05:55
zykotick9dr_willis, this is NOT how i hoped multi-arch was going to work, that's for sure.05:55
MikeChelendaeos: try http://www.playdeb.net/software/bsnes ?05:55
daeosahh, well i tell you it is working like a charm.. I can play zsnes just fine05:55
dr_williszykotick9:  its a work in progress..05:56
lcsolitaryJusticeZero , i will try ..05:56
daeosjust .. have to uninstall it to play any of those others ;-D05:56
dr_willisi wonder where snes9x went.. it used to be in the repos05:56
daeos bsnes then huh?05:56
MikeChelenidk if bsnes performance is ok but it should run at least05:57
dr_willisgsnes i recall was a 64 bit snes emulator.  or was it gtksnes.05:57
randomusrI've downloaded the Blender executables from blender.org - Where should I place them to maintain standards and how to I create a menu item under applications?05:57
MikeChelendaeos: could try running bsnes binary instead of using package manager05:58
daeosok, I'll try that05:58
Maplehello05:58
MapleBye05:59
rypervenche!compile | randomusr05:59
ubotturandomusr: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall05:59
dr_willis!info  snes9x lucid05:59
ubottuPackage snes9x does not exist in lucid05:59
randomusrrypervenche, I don't think they are source packages as they just work when I click on them?06:00
lcsolitaryJusticeZero , thank you ... i will be familiar with this program after a couple of days..^_^06:00
daeosI may just stick with only being able to play one or the other till it breaks ;-D but thank you everyone for the great information06:00
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zykotick9!info snes9x-x lucid06:00
rypervencherandomusr: Then put them in something like /usr/local/bin/06:00
ubottusnes9x-x (source: snes9x): X binaries for snes9x - Super NES Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:1.52-1 (lucid), package size 815 kB, installed size 3116 kB06:00
dr_willisdaeos:  thjeres other snes emulators out there. zsnes is just a popular one06:00
rypervenche!info znes06:00
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ubottuPackage znes does not exist in oneiric06:00
dr_willishttp://www.snes9x.com/06:01
daeosI used zsnes on windows and loved it06:01
rypervenche!info zsnes06:01
ubottuzsnes (source: zsnes): Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.510-2.2ubuntu5 (oneiric), package size 893 kB, installed size 4108 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)06:01
daeos its a great program06:01
s0neerandomusr: is it a archive or a deb file ?06:01
dr_williszsnes is showing its age compared to some of the others..06:01
dr_willisie: its 32bit still.. and missing some features.06:01
randomusrs0nee, archive that I extracted to the download folder06:01
s0neerandomusr: whats the content in there ? is there any script ?06:02
daeosso I am going to have to install the other alsa driver in order for bsnes to work ... since I can't use apt to install .. unless I find a respository with it06:02
yagoodaeos, lol06:02
yagoodaeos, alsa doesnt work? pff.. it's in all linux's repositories..06:02
daeosyagoo: you should read the convo above about zsnes installing a 32 bit alsa lib while uninstalling my 64bit one06:04
yagoolol06:04
yagoodaeos, it's illegal kid.06:04
dr_willis!info snes9x-x06:04
ubottuPackage snes9x-x does not exist in oneiric06:04
rams_panduzykotick9, I got it done using windows06:04
zykotick9rams_pandu, nice.06:05
randomusrs0nee, 2 executable files and one script, although it doesn't seem to be an installer of any sort. The application recognizes the dependencies as I've installed those first06:05
rams_panduzykotick9, my pendrive is working fine now06:05
rams_panduexit06:05
s0neerandomusr: whats the name of the script ? try executing it06:05
yagoorams_pandu, exit fail!06:05
yagoorams_pandu, which one did u use btw?06:05
* yagoo thinks unetbootin sux06:05
randomusrs0nee, blender-softwaregl and the blender how to states just to run the .exe06:06
s0neeyagoo: quick question how do you do that * yagoo thinks unetbootin sux06:06
* dr_willis wonders what s0nee means.06:06
yagoos0nee, it's all bout me.06:06
yagoos0nee, me myself and I06:06
rams_panduyagoo, I used windows7. went to mycomputet->manage->storage. There i formatted my disk. and thats all.06:06
dr_willis /me preforms an action06:06
yagoo,/me-myself-I06:07
yagoo^06:07
yagootry that06:07
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* s0nee a06:07
* s0nee thinks thats cool06:07
randomusrs0nee, I guess I'm just looking for the location to place the files. Wonder if someone else installed blender from synaptic and could tell me where it installs to06:07
yagoodr_willis, you gave our secret away. Congratulations.06:07
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* yagoo invents /you06:08
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yagooI slash you!06:08
s0neerandomusr: did you try executing it ? take a look in the script to see what it does06:08
zykotick9randomusr, you should put things from outside ubuntu into /opt probably06:09
randomusrs0nee, it appears to do some type of software rendering but no install06:09
* s0nee thanks yagoo and dr_willis06:09
suppetyDoes anyone know of a way to eaily rotate display 90 degrees? ie i start programming and wish to rotate the display to portraite mode? (idealy without restarting or loging out)06:11
* pnorman only has a sarcastic non-useful answer06:11
yagoosuppety, either turn your head or the monitor sideways06:12
yagoolol06:12
zykotick9suppety, check out xrandr06:12
suppetyyagoo haha yeah i know how to physicaly turn it, i need to turn the resolution.06:12
suppetyzykotick9: thanks06:12
yagoosuppety, the drver has to support it..06:13
yagoosuppety, if the driver supports it.. u should be able to with xrandr06:13
suppetyim use twin view as well.06:13
htmlsuppety,  in windows its control alt , right/left up /down ,         so wich you chosse06:13
BlackDalekWhat is video type "video/x-msvideo" - is t a DRM protected format (and is it unplayabvle in Ubuntu)?06:13
yagoosuppety, dunno.. if it doesn't work with all exhausted options with xrandr.. u may have to look at your driver's extension options for xorg.conf06:13
zykotick9suppety, nvidia propritary makes the xrandr thing more difficult (or perhaps won't work)06:14
suppetyhtml: im not on windows06:14
yagoozykotick9, oh really? there a doc for that?06:14
suppetyzykotick9: yeah i dont htink it will work becuase srandr sees the displays as ony big one...06:15
zykotick9yagoo, you need to add some randr thing to xorg i believe, i don't have a link06:15
Aleowhere to find good themes dark based for unity ?06:15
Aleoor not dark ones, but good06:16
zykotick9yagoo, xorg requires: Option"RandRRotation""on"06:17
BlackDalekis x-msvideo a protected video format codec? or is there a way to play this type in Ubuntu?06:17
zykotick9BlackDalek, have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and w32codecs (or w64codecs) and are you trying with mplayer?06:19
L1nuxRulesare you guys using ATI?06:19
zykotick9L1nuxRules, do you have an ATI question?  If so, ask it.06:20
ultrixxL1nuxRules: i have an ati gfx card06:20
L1nuxRulesI will stop joining half way through I saw zykotiks post thought it was related to graaaaaaaphgics drivers but moe likely codecs by seeing more details06:21
suppetyThanks all, turns out it wont work with twinview, and xinerama is not great... thanks anyway06:22
L1nuxRulesmy a key is a bit sticky06:22
zykotick9L1nuxRules, two different issues actually ;)06:22
L1nuxRulesservice restrt :)06:24
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randomusrhow do I create and application icon/launcher for software not installed with synaptic?06:25
zykotick9randomusr, Unity or Gnome?06:26
zykotick9randomusr, for Gnome use alacarte (aka main menu), for Unity - i have no idea.06:26
L1nuxRulesrandomusr it will probbly be in /bin /sbin /or /usr prefix to those06:26
randomusrzykotick9, I have gnome installed, but I'm not sure I understand the difference in context06:26
zykotick9randomusr, for Gnome, use System / Preferences / Main Menu (or run alacarte)06:27
L1nuxRuleszybotick9 a way to find it is tyupe the followig06:28
L1nuxRulesupdatedb06:28
zykotick9!tab | L1nuxRules06:28
ubottuL1nuxRules: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.06:28
L1nuxRulessearch packagename06:28
L1nuxRulesotherway dpkg | greap serch06:28
zykotick9L1nuxRules, i don't think you understand what the original poster is asking...06:29
L1nuxRulessorry dpkg -l | grep packagename06:29
Hdale85he wants to make a shortcut to a program that's not in the GUI's applications menu06:29
L1nuxRulesHes asking how to see if something is installed no?06:29
Hdale85no06:30
L1nuxRulessorry find where its installed06:30
zykotick9L1nuxRules, not that either, are you going to keep guessing?06:30
L1nuxRulesnot using a package manager i.e by source06:30
L1nuxRules^^06:31
htmlcan someone help with me build a gaming computer?06:31
share!offtopic06:31
share!ot06:31
zykotick9html, install windows ;)06:31
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:31
Hdale85lol06:31
L1nuxRuleshtml all though thats off topic and I mhate what Im dvising but Windows06:32
sharezykotick9: he's talking about hardware lulz06:32
Hdale85just get an FX 8 core cpu, lots of ram, some nice video cards.....what else do you need to know06:32
shareskills06:32
Hdale85bed time06:33
CandyTigerrequires installation of untrusted packages ?? how do I avoid that message ???06:33
CandyTigerin this case just gegl and focuswriter update06:33
htmllinux, zykotick9  i want the hardware help not the sotfware , and i think it is on topic, cuz i dont want a gup or a motherboard not work out06:33
CandyTigerjust wondering06:34
sharehtml: obviously06:34
sharebut that's offtopic this is Ubuntu support channel06:34
L1nuxRulesanyone here clued up with active directory and Linux/Ubuntu integration?06:34
sharehtml: #defocus ##hardware06:34
share#ubuntu-offtopic06:34
L1nuxRulesor got any pointers?06:34
julianhello06:35
sharehello06:35
julianhow to install x2go on ubuntu?06:35
htmlit is called wine ppl06:35
newhoaHey guys, I'm in Inkscape. When I go to file > print > print to file and select PDF, and under the rendering tab I pick Vector instead of Bitmap. It doesn't ask me for DPI. Is this not necessary?06:35
julianany idea?06:35
m477for what other framework openoffice spit?06:35
L1nuxRulesis there any reason ubuntu uses 3 php.ini files over the httpd opposite06:35
m477libraryoffice or something like that?06:37
zykotick9m477, libreoffice you mean?06:37
ifvoid_OK06:37
ifvoid_WTF people?06:37
m477yes06:37
m477zykotick9: is it better then openoffice?06:37
ifvoid_Gnome became even more unusable after upgrading to 11.1006:37
htmlshare,  * #defocus :Cannot send to channel , what up with that?06:38
zykotick9m477, ? i don't know about better - it's not Oracle though, that's a plus06:38
julianany person have idea... (how to install x2go on ubuntu 11.)06:38
m477zykotick9: is it possible to instal it on lucid?06:38
zykotick9m477, i have no idea06:38
sharehtml: ask in #freenode06:38
L1nuxRulesyou do know people if you learnt how Linux packagement worked yuou dont have to go with what your distro otfhers06:39
zykotick9!register | html06:39
ubottuhtml: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode06:39
L1nuxRulesofers*06:39
L1nuxRulesoffers*06:39
zykotick9L1nuxRules, that's actually BAD advice, but do what you want - but don't recommend it to others.06:39
zykotick9!wfm | L1nuxRules06:40
ubottuL1nuxRules: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/06:40
L1nuxRuleszykotick9 sorry Im an old skool Linux user I started compiling from source and its the best way to learn!06:40
zykotick9L1nuxRules, so am i - but i've learned...06:40
L1nuxRulesno you havent else you wouldnt be scared to break it06:41
x2exit06:41
CandyTigerstill not able to update several packages. tried checking out options in update manager. still claims It needs packages from unauthenticated sources ???? how do I solve that ?06:41
yagooL1nuxRules, if you're so smart then why are you not talking in a development channel? hmmmmmmmmmmmmm?06:42
L1nuxRulescanyytiger try aptitude to upgrade your packages will at least give you reasons for conflicts06:42
L1nuxRulesyagoo Im a sys admin and Linux not ubuntu skilled06:43
L1nuxRulesand out of date06:43
bazhang!ot | L1nuxRules06:43
ubottuL1nuxRules: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:43
yagooL1nuxRules, you don't need "ubuntu" skills to realize that dpkg is on more than just ubuntu.06:43
yagoopff06:43
bruno_brotspechthttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  im here because this page told me to... anybode got an idea what i can do to make ubuntu finding my hard-drive again?06:43
L1nuxRulesyagoo I know its Debian what sways I said it wasd ubuntu?06:44
bazhangL1nuxRules, thats enough06:44
ifvoid_i mean, where did all the configuration options go?!06:44
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yagooL1nuxRules, ok we caught you with the pants down. Php.ini has your fears over httpd very good.06:44
L1nuxRuleswhat Im responding to questions?06:44
bazhangL1nuxRules, this is not the chat channel. please stop06:45
L1nuxRulesyagoo ok my experince was with an Ubuntu server I know its from Debian just wording nothing technical06:45
L1nuxRuleslast OT06:46
bazhangyagoo, lets move on please06:46
yagoobazhang, My pants aren't down. Sorry.06:46
yagoopff06:46
L1nuxRulesis OT allowed when its quiet?06:51
bazhangL1nuxRules, no06:51
golkeonoh god06:51
* yagoo thinks L1nuxRules should go to #ubuntu-offtopic06:52
L1nuxRulesOT stilll Ubuntu related just not desktop support i.e server or Ubutu suggestions?06:52
L1nuxRulesIm only asking btw06:52
golkeonI got a question, why has ubuntu live gotten progressively and exponentially slower since 9.10? 11.04 live is unbelievably slow even booting form flashdrive06:54
golkeonfrom*06:54
L1nuxRulescan I say Ubuntu rules as out of the box desktop OS?06:54
Madpilotgolkeon, really? 11.10 LiveCD has the fastest LiveCD boot yet. I can't stand Unity, but have no speed complaints, even on LiveCD.06:55
L1nuxRulesor is that OT?06:55
golkeonno 9.10 was much quicker trust me06:55
golkeonI use it all the time for backing up machines06:55
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* yagoo cant wait for his miniitx to comein06:56
L1nuxRulesI had a test server at work booted 10.04 in 3 secs06:56
golkeonlive to desktpo not from HDD06:56
L1nuxRulesUbuntu fast booters :)06:56
Efazatihi all, i want download some package and then move to home to install ... for example i want install postgresql and mysql ,,, with simple apt i can install with all dependency . how i can download all pakage with dependency in other system and move to base system?06:58
L1nuxRulesefazati sorry that isnt in computer english whats the issue and what do you need?06:59
zykotick9!aptoncd | Efazati07:00
ubottuEfazati: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers - See also !offline07:00
zykotick9Efazati, other option is copy the all the DEBs from /var/cache/apt/archives07:00
L1nuxRulesno where near hes asking a server issue at least07:00
Efazatizykotick9, oh thanks but i have debian hear07:00
L1nuxRulessql07:00
Efazatiand ubuntu in home07:00
Efazatithere is any cross way?07:01
zykotick9Efazati, i have no idea - but disregard my suggestions07:01
Efazatitnx07:02
CaptWho!nounity07:03
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic07:03
zykotick9CaptWho, "similar to GNOME 2" but it's NOT gnome207:04
dinexiHello. I am trying to find any city which is located in CDT timezone and can be added to the indicator applet's clock. Can anybody advice one? For my timezone (UTC+6) I am using Asia/Novosibirsk. What can I use for CDT?07:04
yagooCaptWho, you should install these (sudo if nec)->apt-get install gnome-shell gnome-fallback-session gnome-classic07:04
badapplechicago07:04
yagooCaptWho, and gnome-tweak-tool07:04
yagooCaptWho, at the logon window.. you will then have to click the gear picture to get different desktops07:05
badapplethat is what I use for CTZ07:05
badappleerr CDT I mean07:05
dinexibadapple: thank you. so now it is midnight in CDT?07:06
dinexiSorry!07:06
dinexi2:00am07:06
badappleno 2:1007:06
dinexiThank you very much.07:07
badappleyw :)07:07
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HemebondHow do I run a Python script when I log in so it runs in the background until I log off?07:09
WHAT_UPquestion: how did i get to "Mem:  16379692k total, 16285912k used,    93780k free,  6739996k buffers" when i only have like 5 tabs in chrome and pidgin open?07:10
zykotick9!atemyram | WHAT_UP07:10
ubottuWHAT_UP: If you are wondering why some tools report your system has very little free memory, have a look at http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ | A short primer on Linux memory management can be found here: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html07:10
chaos_is this a helper channel?07:14
WHAT_UPzykotick9: would you happen to know how linux decides what to cache?07:15
chaos_hello07:15
WHAT_UPchaos_: at times07:15
chaos_yes it catches everything07:15
chaos_colds viruses07:15
chaos_everything man07:15
maslenHow can I make a bash script not print out the command that is being ran?07:15
zykotick9WHAT_UP, what it's caching I don't specifically know.  everything i'd guess.07:16
WHAT_UPzykotick9: hmm07:16
WHAT_UPzykotick9: it can't cache everything, there simply isn't enough ram for that07:16
zykotick9WHAT_UP, sorry, perhaps "anything it can" would be more accurate07:16
Hemebondmaslen: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/io-redirection.html07:17
WHAT_UPzykotick9: do you know if it does it in a reasonably smart way? like, that it won't cache things that have never been used before?07:17
doctor_hWhat if your os install is like 4gb and your ram is 8gb. Can you have it cache everything?07:17
dr_willisinstall to a ram drive. :)07:17
chaos_maslen: bash script output can be redirected to /dev/null if you wanted no output07:17
zykotick9WHAT_UP, i'd imagine the folks that do the kernel, know what they're doing.07:18
maslenHemebond, chaos_: I'm running a python script as part of my bash script, and I don't want the output of the script to include the line of invoking the python script.07:18
WHAT_UPzykotick9: sounds about right. thanks!07:18
maslenHowever, I do want the output of the python script.07:18
s0neemaslen: bash script does not echo the command, just the output of it07:19
doctor_hMaybe the guys that make the kernal only are using 512mb to 1gb of ram. They prolly dont know people now have 8gb machines.07:19
maslens0nee: This one appears to.07:19
peppes1ciao07:19
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zykotick9doctor_h, you're funny.  Some of those kernel programs have access to hardware we probably couldn't even imagine07:20
s0neemaslen: how ?07:20
zykotick9s/programs/programmers/07:20
Hdale85zykotick9, it's not like linux developers are paid big bucks07:21
wooterdoctor_h, ram still has to be loaded from a hard drive unless its constantly powered, defeats the purpose07:21
Hdale85a lot of them work for free07:21
maslens0nee: It displays the full python command I invoke. Strangely enough, it does not print the commands above or below it.07:21
doctor_hI can donate to those kernal guys. I have a old 128mb stick laying around. Im sure they can put it to awesome use.07:21
chaos_i keep gettin gtk warnings about theme module pixmap.. does anyone know how to get some themage in ubuntu 11.1007:21
zykotick9Hdale85, and a lot of them work for HUGE companys and are getting HUGE salaries (in fact very few are volunteer anymore)07:21
s0neemaslen: then im pretty sure the problem is python07:21
Hemebondchaos_: There's a package for pixmap engine.07:22
WacemannVidia Legacy driver issues. Installed 71xx from nVidia website as this was the only pack which supports my GeForce 256 DDR. When my Ubuntu 10.04 reboots, screen flashes and gives error:07:22
Waceman(EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so07:22
Hdale85I think you'd be surprised how many are volunteer, pretty much any program on linux is created by some open source community07:22
Waceman(EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (loader failed, 7)07:22
Waceman(EE) No drivers available07:22
Hdale85but yeah there are still a lot htat are paid well, but I think most of the big paying jobs are in the unix/sun area07:23
zykotick9Hdale85, http://apcmag.com/linux-now-75-corporate.htm 75% paid07:24
Hdale85in something as big as linux 25% is still a lot07:24
zykotick9Hdale85, unix/sun is almost dead - linux is where it's at.07:24
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TheThinghi. have gnome 2.20. wanna paint over desktop with my mouse. what program can help me?07:26
badappleuse compiz07:26
badapplethere is a plugin that allows this07:27
Hdale85can't decide if I want to put ubuntu on this desktop....07:27
TheThingbadapple, have compiz. what's the name of plugin?07:27
Hdale85I know pretty soon I'll be playing some new games so I probably shouldn't07:27
TheThingbadapple, found it. big thanks!07:28
badappleyw :)07:28
hey_joei keep trying to use 'ssh -R 9999:localhost:22 user@remotehost' to tunnel an ssh connection for my locked up work machine.  this works, but I must first ssh to remotehost, then establish a connection to localhost on port 9999 to connect to my locked up work machine.07:31
hey_joeis there a way to make this bind to a specific up or interface on the remotehost side? so i can skip logging into the remote host, and ssh directly to remotehost:9999 ?  i have tried the typical remotehost:9999:localhost:22... howver it fails to bind on remotehost's wan ip.07:31
hey_joeany tips?07:31
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hey_joeremotehost has a dedicated ip, and i can bind to ports.07:31
timloveskimHow can i installed Nvidia drivers on 11.10?07:33
yagoohey_joe, i don't think you're supposed to be doing that..07:33
dr_willistimloveskim:  i just use the package manger/addational-drivers/jockey-gtk tool for that...07:33
timloveskimwheres that at?07:34
hey_joeyagoo..07:34
timloveskimi got the linux driver package07:34
hey_joeits legit.07:34
dr_willistimloveskim:  you can run 'jockey-gtk' or look in the menus for 'addational drivers'07:34
dr_willistimloveskim:   what 'driver package' ?07:34
yagoohey_joe, dunno.. you should check with your company policy?07:34
yagoohey_joe, btw u would use another option07:34
hey_joewhat option?07:34
yagoo,/persay-- an additional option07:34
hey_joeive tried fooling with sshd_config07:35
hey_joeto avail.07:35
searchingLubuntu 11.10 hang to install why?07:35
hey_joehrm07:35
dr_willistheres a way from pc1, you can ssh to pc2 and have it just run a command, like whatever setup command you are using. hey_joe07:36
ifvoid_so07:36
ifvoid_how do I configrue a screensaver in 11.10?07:36
dr_willisifvoid_:  seems they trimmed out that :)07:36
hey_joedr_willis: i need a static mysql connection.07:36
ifvoid_dr_willis: indeed07:37
dr_willishey_joe:  theres always the down and dirty use of /etc/rc.local07:37
yagoohey_joe, there's actually a number of ways you can automate this-- probably 1 you'd be familar with is -c07:37
ifvoid_my god07:37
hey_joeand for some reason althou it works on the remotehost, mysql client automatically assumes localhost is on the default mysql port.07:37
ifvoid_thsi is really unbelievable07:37
yagoohey_joe, if you're using putty, u can setup what command to run right away after login07:37
dr_willisifvoid_:  i belive the webupd8 blog site mentioned  using the xscreensavers and replaceing gnomescreensavers07:37
yagoopff07:37
ifvoid_yeah well07:37
hey_joehrm07:37
yagoomysql now07:37
hey_joeit all works on remotehow.07:37
yagoogeez WIZ07:37
hey_joeremotehost.07:38
dr_willisifvoid_:  gnome2 dident really have much in the way of configuring screensavers either.07:38
ifvoid_I am just going to replace Gnoem and Ubuntu by something decent and usable, I think07:38
yagoohave a good day um hey_joe07:38
hey_joeproblem is its binding to the remotehost on the local ip.07:38
dr_willisifvoid_:  its your time.. have a nice day.07:38
hey_joethus i have to ssh there first.07:38
ifvoid_that will give me a lot less frustration07:38
dr_willischangeing disrtos because of screensavers.. :)07:38
ifvoid_dr_willis: at least Iw as able to set the timeouts and disbale all the fancy crap07:38
ifvoid_dr_willis: not just screensavers07:38
ifvoid_dr_willis: its s symptom of the contempt that the Gnome people seem to treat their users withj07:39
ifvoid_and by extention, the Ubuntu developers07:39
dr_willisGnome Devs are pushing the idiot-proofing of the gui. BUt thats what the people seem to demand...07:39
dr_willisbut this is not really the right channel for the discussion of that.07:40
searchinghey why I can't install Lubuntu ?07:40
ifvoid_dr_willis: right07:40
ifvoid_dr_willis: anyway, thanks for your help07:40
dr_willissearching:  whats the exact issue/where its stopping?07:40
dr_willissome how 'user friendly' became 'lack of options'07:41
dr_willisbut thats all i have to say for that. :)07:41
kleopatrahow can i cahge PATH permanently? cant find an entry in bashrc07:41
searchingin the installation time hang at searching laptop desktop07:41
dr_williskleopatra:  .profile perhaps.07:41
dr_willis.profile:    PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"07:42
dr_williskleopatra:  for all users. i think it soulw be /etc/profile07:42
zykotick9kleopatra, one detail regarding .profile - be sure to create ~/bin if you use the line supplied by dr_willis07:43
dr_willisthats just a quote from the .profile  not a command :)07:44
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dr_williswillis@BlackLaptop:~$ grep PATH .*07:44
dr_willis.profile:# set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists07:44
dr_willis.profile:    PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"07:44
zykotick9dr_willis, there is a test directly above that PATH line - for if ~/bin then add the line you've given07:44
celltechClearly there's a lot of things running in my background. My fan has been running full force for over 3hr's. It only does that when it's running like crazy. How do I shut down unused things on 11.0107:45
zaoul1whats the deal with apparmor, isnt selinux good enough? why reinvent the wheel? On top of apparmor bugs everything out so you end up disabling it anyway.07:45
celltech11.04*07:45
altinhi, Im adding aliases but it seems that everytime I restart my computer they get removed07:46
dr_williswonder what /etc/environment is used for. it seems to define the PATH also.07:46
altinis there any way of adding them permanently ?07:46
fatboy21007How do i install the nvidia linux drivers?07:46
histocelltech: ps aux  or top will give you a list of running pids07:46
dr_willisaltin:  adding them where/how?07:46
histo!nvidia > fatboy2100707:46
ubottufatboy21007, please see my private message07:46
celltechDo i have to install it?07:46
dr_willisaltin:   put the definitions in the users home config files.07:46
altindr_willis: till now I did $ alias altin='blla blla'07:46
dr_willisaltin:  yes.. thats not permenet...07:47
altinahh07:47
altinso how can I add permanent ?07:47
zykotick9altin, .bashrc07:47
dr_willisaltin:  see the info in the .bashrc  they mention a file you can make to keep them in07:47
altinok07:47
dr_willisbash fundamentals day here on irc. :)07:47
dr_willis# Alias definitions.07:48
dr_willis# You may want to put all your additions into a separate file like07:48
dr_willis# ~/.bash_aliases, instead of adding them here directly.07:48
warmHi, I can't find startup application  in 11.10, and the $HOME/.xsession won't work either.07:48
fatboy21007not wat i was hopin for07:49
fatboy21007im tryon to get a mmo called Xsyon to work on 11.10 but it wont07:49
altindr_willis: zykotick9 thnx :)07:49
dr_williswarm:  what are you trying to startup exactly? theres ~/.config/autostart/07:49
fatboy21007each time it starts i get an earror07:49
* Waceman nVidia Legacy driver issues. Installed 71xx from nVidia website as this was the only pack which supports my GeForce 256 DDR. When my Ubuntu 10.04 reboots, screen flashes and gives error: 07:50
fatboy21007i got wine-playlinux and crossover (tryin crossover now)07:50
* Waceman (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so07:50
* Waceman (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (loader failed, 7)07:50
warmdr_willis, then?07:50
dr_willisfatboy21007:  you did check the wine app database?07:50
dr_williswarm:  then... you may want to give us more details as to what you are trying to do...07:50
warmI'd like to autostart stardict on start07:50
HemebondWaceman: Did you remove the Ubuntu packages?07:50
dr_willismake a script to start it in autostart, or find its .desktop file and copy it there.07:51
hey_joestupid secondary gateway i had in my office under my desk.07:51
hey_joethe nat was messing it up.07:51
WacemanHemebond: You mean nVidia packages?07:51
HemebondYes.07:51
* hey_joe headdesk07:51
warmI am not sure what to do to autostart an app. like writing command into some files?07:52
dr_willis  #!/bin/bash07:52
dr_williscommandtostart &07:52
HemebondI would also like to know what file should contain autostart commands when I login.07:52
dr_willis2 lines. :) in a file.. make the file executable.. put it in autostart07:53
dr_willisHemebond:  the autostart directory can contain scripts, links to executables, or .destop files07:53
HemebondHmm, cheers dr_willis07:53
warmdr_willis, oh.  I know, thanks~07:53
dr_willissome windowmanager/desktops might ignore the autostart directory.  depending on what you are using07:53
WacemanHemebond: No I didn't, since only "nvidia-common" & the modaliases drivers are installed07:54
Hemebonddr_willis: Ah. Is there no standard file or directory?07:54
warmdr_willis, gnome3 on 11.1007:54
HemebondLike .xsession?07:54
HemebondWaceman: You need to remove them all.07:54
dr_willis.xsession is used when you select custome in the login/gdm screen07:54
dr_willisits NOT used if you select some other session.07:54
awantiHello friends.. I'm not expert in ubuntu, i need u r help to setup local repository in our office. We are recently migrated to Ubuntu 10.04. Currently every pc is updating from internet. (we are having 10 pc's in our office)07:55
dr_willisat least thats how it used to work07:55
HemebondWhat about .xinitrc?07:55
dr_willis.xsession  is not used in ADDATION to your selected session.. same for .xinitrc07:55
dr_willisYou want to auto start stuff in gnome.. best to use the autostart dir.07:55
HemebondI'm not using Gnome.07:56
dr_willisyou want total controll of everything that starts. including the window manager - then theres .xinitrc/xsession07:56
dr_willisother wm's may have their own methods.07:56
dr_willisso it all 'depends' on what you are using07:56
HemebondThat's lame. I thought Linux had standardised this already.07:56
dr_willisHemebond:  has nothing to do with 'linux' or any 'standard'07:57
dr_willisthe wms can do what they want..07:57
dr_willismost desktops support the autostart directory as their standard.07:57
HemebondWhen I say "Linux" I meant the Linux community.07:57
dr_willistheres also  system wide auto start directory.07:57
dr_willisbut again.. the window manager/desktop has to use it.07:57
HemebondI'll try using ~/.config/autostart/07:58
Hemebondwith bash scripts.07:58
dr_williswhat desktop/wm are you using?07:58
HemebondXubuntu.07:58
HemebondXfce07:58
bahamashello. i keep trying to solve issues with my wireless and i stumbled onto this http://askubuntu.com/questions/12355/broadcom-bcm4313-working-but-terribly-slow/67806#67806 . where should i get that driver from though?07:58
WacemanHemebond: Found this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseNotes#nVidia_"legacy"_video_support07:58
dr_willischeck the xfce docs i gues.. I thought it also used autostart.07:59
histoHemebond: linux does have standards however, if you are using gnome/kde they have differen't ways of controlling startup.07:59
histoHemebond: if you are using just plain X then I would use your .xinitrc to control which apps are run on X starting.07:59
mirrakorhey there, when I want to upload a package to ppa it rejects it because I use the wrong distro attribute, but how is Oneiric Ocelot abbriviated?07:59
dr_willisI belive the use of .desktop files in autostart may be more flexiable. you can define apps to start or not for kde, or gnome and so on.07:59
histoHemebond: What window manager or environment are you using?08:00
Hemebondhisto: Nah, I'm using LightDM, I'm just trying to make my profile as WM independent as possible.08:00
mirrakoroneiric08:00
Hemebondhisto: For example, I've switched to xbindkeys for all my keyboard shortcuts.08:00
dr_willis /etc/xdg/autostart/ has system wide auto-starting stuff08:01
histoHemebond: then I would go with .xinitrc since it gets called regardless of the environment. Stuff is starting to lean towards the .desktop files though now but it's not adopted accross the board.08:01
histoHemebond: like openbox will use .desktop files etc...08:01
histoHemebond: if you have xdg installed08:01
fatboy21007i have the addition drivers installed, however im still missing the 3d acceleration, Playlinux keeps saying i dont have it08:02
fatboy21007How can i get it?08:02
histoHemebond: .xinitrc would be used to start the window manager of your choosing08:03
fatboy21007got a Evga gts 450, seems it doesnt have drivers yet even with addition drivers activated08:03
histo!nvidia > fatboy2100708:03
dr_willisi recall someone mentioning that  lightdm dident have a 'custome' session  that ran .xinitrc or .xsesion for some reason08:03
histoHemebond: How are you invoking X with startx or are you using a login manager?08:04
Hemebondhisto: I'm using a login manager. It's Ubuntu 11.10 with xubuntu-desktop installed.08:04
histodr_willis: I thought lightdm was a login manager not a environment.08:05
rasta1holaaaaaa08:05
rasta1aslguien08:05
histoHemebond: you'd have to read what xdm calls for it's session managment.08:05
awantiplease any one can guide me to setup local repository on Ubuntu 10.0408:05
histodr_willis: nvm i'm wrong i'm reading about it now08:06
dr_willishisto:  and it has a list of sessiont it can start for the user. :)08:06
dr_willis for example /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop08:07
dr_willismore .desktop files. :) getting common heh.08:07
histodr_willis: yeah it uses /usr/share/sessions/....08:07
dr_willissome package includes a 'custome.desktop' that runs the .xinitrc/.xsession (gdm most likely)08:09
ravn2folks, I removed the global menu packages, and that works well for all aplications I tried so far except thunderbird and firefox. Is there any additional package to remove get these menus back?08:09
dr_willisravn2:  firefox has its own extension that you may need to remove.08:09
dr_willisNo idea on thunderbird.08:09
dr_willisto get global menus on ff. you had to install some extension, so to remove the feature. you need to remove the extension i recall.08:10
ravn2dr_willis: ok, I suspected that, do you know what the package is called?08:10
dr_willisNo idea. :) disable it in ff perhaps? i use chrome all the time now a days08:10
s0neehey when i build from source "make" auto stops when a pkg is not installed. is there anyway to get it run all the way then report needed dependencies ?08:11
dr_williswebupd8 blog site had a few tweak articals on global menu/general 11.10+ tweaks08:11
dr_williss0nee:  if the thing you are compiling is allready in teh repos (an older version perhaps) you can use the build-dep option to apt-get , to install all needed deps.08:11
dr_willisie: sudo apt-get build-deps weechat08:11
dr_williswould pull in all needed -dev packages to compile weechat08:12
s0needr_willis: hmm but its not in the repo ... anyway thanks08:12
dr_williss0nee:  that makes it harder then. :)08:12
histos0nee: weechat is in the repo08:13
maffeluWhen installing Ubuntu on an XP-machine, can you create a partition via the installer or do you have to create a fresh partition before installing it?08:13
dr_willishisto:  it was an example....08:13
s0needr_willis: i have never built a pkg from source and i want to try it lol08:13
histodr_willis: ohh08:13
histos0nee: what package are you trying to build?08:13
tdnHow do I install the non-free Java in 11.10?08:13
histoman i'm off08:13
dr_willishisto:  and if you wantd to compile a NEWER version.. build-dep makes it easier.08:13
sosshey this question might seem silly, setting up a basic kiosk for work using ubuntu, and ive managed pretty much everything i was needing, basically, i need to run an application at startup, but i only want it to run on the kiosk user when it logs on, but if i add it to startup applications it runs for every user at logon, how do i make it only run for one specific user?08:13
dr_willis!java08:13
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.08:13
tdndr_willis, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java seems outdated. It mentions lucid mirrors.08:14
histososs: how did you add it to startup?08:14
dr_willissoss:  each user has their own ~/.config/autostart/ directory08:14
s0neehisto: what pkg doesnt matter. is there any way to make "make" run all the way then report missing pkgs ? now it auto stops when a pkg is not installed08:14
histos0nee: no how can it build with out having the needed tools08:15
sqrl_gkhi08:15
sossi added it to startup using the startup applications preferences08:15
tdndr_willis, it says, for instance: sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner"   Should I really do that in 11.10? I already have deb http://archive.canonical.com oneiric partner08:15
tdnBut sun-java packages are not available for install.08:15
s0neehisto: its configuring08:16
histososs: then it should only run when that user logs in08:16
sqrl_gki out of conscious removed my pmutils package frm 11.1008:16
sqrl_gknow i can't login to ubuntu.08:16
histos0nee: i don't know what package you are trying to build so I can't really help nor do I know the error you are getting.08:16
zaoul1i was trying to use ubuntu and it didnt work, derp08:16
sossoh, ok, i must have done something stupid somewhere then, thanks08:16
oratedHello! I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 linux and from the packages I could find lyx package for latex. sudo apt-get install lyx suggests ~450MiB of data to be downloaded whereas sudo apt-get --no-install-recommend install lyx suggests 12MiB of data.. Is it sufficient to have these packages - http://pastebin.com/GzS5kcTi ?08:18
dr_willistdn:  i just use the java in the repos.. i dont bother with orcal's java any more08:18
tdndr_willis, well, I need the non-free one.08:19
tdnIt is required to use government services.08:19
dr_willischeck the forums and askubuntu.com perhaps.08:19
tdnSuch as filling out IRS forms.08:19
dr_willisyou need to download somthing from orcal now for their offical 'sun' java08:19
dr_willisdue to them deciding you now MUST check their eula box to download it...08:19
s0neehisto: i found the solution. thanks though08:20
histodr_willis: java packages have been removed then from the repos???08:20
dr_willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/5567/how-to-install-the-sun-java-jdk08:21
dr_willishisto:  the offical 'sun' java (orcal) did somthign to their licensing a few months back.. so THEIR java is not there.08:21
histohrm.. I live under a rock08:22
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dr_willistheres also unofficial-slightly-not-legal ppa's of the java7 i belive.08:22
dr_willisorcale just seems to really mess up anything they get their hands on. :()08:23
s0neeorated: if a pkg is "recommended" then its optional. if you can still run the program then recommended pkgs dont have to be installed08:23
tdndr_willis, so there are no mirrors anymore?08:28
dr_willistdn:   unoffical and perhaps less then legal ppa's i hear.. but i dont need the orcale java for anything i do. so i just use the icedtea java08:28
tdndr_willis, is there a de-facto official PPA?08:29
dr_willistdn:  orcale says   NO.. to such a thing i belive.08:30
dr_willisyou have to get it from their web site, and check their eula. due to their licensing change.. (if i rember right)08:30
dr_williswas a big stink about it a few months back... I dont recall the details08:30
tdndr_willis, ok, but you said that there is PPAs I can use, right?08:30
dr_willisI thought the !java factoid mentioned it.08:30
user_:o08:31
tdndr_willis, maybe it should be updated.08:31
dr_willisunless they have been taken down..08:31
tdndr_willis, not even sure how to download and install it from java.com? It does not provide a .deb. What to do?08:32
dr_willishttp://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html08:34
ecthienderhello, i am trying to connect my computer to a router but it fails. where can i look for error logs in order to troubleshoot?08:34
dr_willistdn:  you use their installer like the guides say.08:34
dr_williswebupd8 site seems to have ppa's for it also..08:34
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tdndr_willis, ok.08:35
tdnWill try it. Thanks.08:35
ecthienderin dmesg i get link is down08:37
tdndr_willis, http://p.adora.dk/P2210.html08:39
tdndr_willis, think the ppa is down?08:39
maubuntu!chat08:39
ubottuThe Empathy Instant Messenger is installed by default and supports MSN, XMPP (Jabber, GTalk and  variants), AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ, YIM, IRC and others. See also !Kopete and !pidgin08:39
tdndr_willis, or not available for oneiric?08:39
canihojrbuenas08:40
tdnhttp://ppa.launchpad.net/nilarimogard/webupd8/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-amd64/Packages08:40
tdnIt seems up...08:40
dr_willistdn:  no idea.. i dont use it..08:40
canihojrSe me queda pillado ubuntu 11.10, y me he dado cuenta que siempre es por culpa de flash.... e08:41
szal!es | canihojr08:41
ubottucanihojr: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.08:41
htmlwhat gpu known to work with wine , and unity?08:41
canihojrthanks :P08:42
ecthienderhello, i am trying to connect my computer to a router but it fails. where can i look for error logs in order to troubleshoot?08:42
dr_willishtml:  unity needs 3d support unless you areusing unity 3d. so  most gpu's should work.08:42
dr_willishtml: wine - depends on what you are running in wine08:42
htmlits a brand new gameing comuter08:43
dr_willishtml:  that tells us very little about what GPU is actually in the machine08:43
htmli need help picking the parts08:43
dr_willisnow we are at the actual question. :)08:43
dr_willisgo with nvidia.08:43
html? why them?08:44
dr_willisyou asked what ones are known to work.....08:44
dr_willisand you want a gameing machine..08:44
htmli am thankful for you help , but i need to keep in mind the reason why08:44
dr_willisof course 'gaming machine' and 'linux box' are often  very differnt in its needs.08:45
html? huh  whats that ?08:45
dr_willishtml:  because ati stinks. :0  and intel dont have the power for gaming machine...08:45
htmllol!!!!08:45
html"intel strinks"08:45
dr_willisif you have a dual-sli nvidia setip.. whats going to use it in  linux?  unless you are planing on using games in wine.08:45
dr_willisIntel works very well.. but its not for high end gameing.08:46
htmlwine hopefuly08:46
dr_willisIf you re going to game in linux using wine... and want to  focus on gaming.. well.. you should be dual booting.08:46
dr_willisIt depends on the games also.08:46
html600$ to 750 is my limit08:46
dr_willisfor the card or the whole system?08:47
dr_willis:)08:47
dr_willisi got a decent asus i7 system 8gb ram. nvidia card. essentio for $777 the other day.08:47
dr_willisruns linux decently well.. decent for games.. upgradeable later.08:48
dr_williswatch the sales this holiday season :)08:48
zaoul1yea c compilers are overrated08:48
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zaoul1pffff silly programs08:49
htmli dont know  im stuck with the whole thing,  i am going to make this for a buddy  to play "wow or like games"   and a media center ps tv tuner08:49
htmldr_willis,  777? got lucky ?08:49
htmldr_willis,  777? got lucky ? lol got milk?08:49
dr_willison clearance, and they had an open box display. saved me like $120 that way08:51
htmldr_willis,  so i am thininking  an   amd  cup min of 4cores thats all i got08:52
dr_willisI just got what i found on sale. :) was looking for an i5 - found an i7 on sale.08:53
dr_willistheres hardware review sites that have lists of whats the best value for the $$. thats what i target.08:54
htmlwell if i did that then i cant get a kickass psu and case08:54
htmlwell i did that, and im stuck , i forgot how to put the parts so they match08:55
htmlwow its  DEEAADDD lol in here08:55
htmlwell if i did that then i cant get a kickass psu and case08:57
TheBoxTheoryofftopic but i'll say it. AwwsomeWM Ftw!08:57
htmldr_willis,  so have you put together a gaming lunix box08:58
htmlTheBoxTheory,  then join me in that off topic,  which #hardware is a near "Ghout townLOL08:59
dr_willis'gaming linux box' when no games need the power.. :)09:00
dr_willisor the ones that do need the power.. would be crippled in wine..09:00
rabbi1what's the keyboard shortcut to open the terminal ?09:03
pawan_tejwanidid anybody configured (private) cloud using xen ?09:04
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oratedHello! I'm running a dual-boot OS with Ubuntu 11.10 and Windows 7. I noticed that Windows 7 during and after boot doesn't make any fan noise and remains quiet most of the time but only if certain applications are running or video editing or compiling, the fan may start to rev up. The temperature when Windows 7 is operating in idle conditions is ~60C. Now regarding Ubuntu linux, immediately after booting I can see the fan running at09:15
oratedhigher rpm and temperature I noticed is 74C when idle. Can anyone explain me such behavior? If the system is idle in both the cases, then with one the rpm is high and for other normal. I don't see any process running in linux with high CPU usage ...09:15
nnxwhere is the default instal folder for ubuntus softwarecenter ?09:16
dr_willisnnx:  what?09:16
dr_willisorated:  sadly power-management is often picky, and dosent work as well under linux for various reasons.09:16
szaldr_willis: add to that the "power drain" bug since kernel 2.6.3809:17
nnxim just wondering where the default install folder is, i downloaded a program from the ubuntu softwarecenter called bpython (trying to learn to program) and i want to keybind it so its easier to pull up but i dont know where the program is install so i can bind it to a key09:17
orateddr_willis: Well, that can drastically reduce the life of processor if its not operating as it should ..09:18
szal!info bpython09:18
ubottubpython (source: bpython): fancy interface to the Python interpreter - Curses frontend. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7.1-1 (oneiric), package size 46 kB, installed size 316 kB09:18
badbanditwhat - the - F#%$09:18
wooternnx, try /usr/bin09:18
badbanditI just updated to oneiric09:18
nnxthanks ill try09:18
badbanditI can no longer detect my 2nd display09:18
szalnnx: ncurses..  that runs in the terminal anyway09:18
dr_willis'which bpython'09:18
badbanditdont even see my nvidia settings just ubuntu display09:18
dr_willisshows where its at in your PATH09:18
badbanditwhich doesnt work09:18
badbanditany help?09:18
szal!enter | badbandit09:19
ubottubadbandit: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!09:19
orateddr_willis: Should I ask in #ubuntu-kernel? I just realised they may probably help better :)09:19
badbanditszal: ok, why the hell does updating ubuntu every 6 months break my computer/09:19
dr_willisorated:  you can try i guess..09:19
zaoul1thats a feature09:19
wooterbadbandit, ya learn after awhile just to fresh install, its not worth the headstress09:20
badbanditwho is in charge of ubuntu/gnome UI decisions seriously?09:20
dr_willisorated:  theres some nasty power-regressions bugs out at this time. I havent paid much attention to it lately09:20
dr_willisbadbandit:  gome devs for gnome...09:20
* szal doubts that upgrading breaks anyone's computers, hasn't heard of upgrades causing hardware malfunctions yet09:20
badbanditthey are losing my interest every update, this is BS. top left with applications - system - etc worked perfectly and made sense09:21
orateddr_willis: Could you link me to any page which gives detailed info on it?09:21
badbanditnow it's changed09:21
badbanditI have no idea wtf is going on or how to find stuff09:21
badbanditthis is why microsoft failed09:21
dr_willisbadbandit:  what are you going on about?09:21
dr_willisbadbandit:  if you want a guide on using Unity. they exist..09:21
llutzbadbandit: if it "worked perfectly ", why did you upgrade?09:21
dr_willistheres also gnome0-shell guides out there for gnome shell ussage09:21
badbanditllutz: because I saw the upgrade popup 100 times and thought maybe it would offer some cool new features, not complete UI changes09:22
dr_willisunity has been around since the last release...09:22
llutzbadbandit: and you are not able to read some lines about all the changes before? they wereknown since a while and heavily discussed09:22
badbanditsuch as windows, why are window action items (min/max/close) now dispalyed at top right of entire screen?????? wtf09:22
badbanditer top left09:23
dr_willisthats been the default for some time.09:23
dr_willisand easially changed.09:23
dr_willis!controls09:23
ubottuStarting in Lucid, the minimize, maximize, and close buttons have been moved to the left side. For more informationand workarounds, please see http://pad.lv/53263309:23
slack-manyone here have a WD caviar GREEN and know about the 4k sector stuff, and the alignment? i have a question about sectors per track... i think its supposed to be 64 instead of 63, but im unsure09:23
CJMillerI don't have one09:23
badbanditdr_willis: i dont care about changing, i want to know who thought that was a good idea09:23
dr_willisbadbandit:  thats not really a support question then. You can discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic09:23
badbanditwith any software app, let alone an operating system, you can't move shit around like that all the time09:24
dr_willisit was discussed in many blog/forum posts a year+ ago when they did the change09:24
badbanditesp with basic things that are more or less consistent across all os's09:24
dr_willistechnicaly its a theme setting now. on a per-theme basis09:25
badbanditdamn i had a feeling this would be a mistake upgrading09:25
nnxi cant still get it to work, ive found the program located at \usr\bin\bpython, and ive set the global_keybindings to cntrl alt b and the keybinding_commands is set to usr\bin\bpython.py but it still doesnt pop up09:25
badbanditi love ubuntu and have used it for years but i dont want to invest a second of time in relearning it's UI09:26
dr_willisnnx:  is it a console/text/terminal app?09:26
nnxyes its a terminal ap09:26
afflictoHello everyone! just installed ubuntu 11.10. Are there any chat clients that connects to IRC and Skype(with voice\webcam support)?09:26
dr_willisnnx:  then you need to set up a terminal to launch it.09:26
CJMillerafflicto: Xchat and Skype09:26
dr_willisnnx:  ie:  xterm -e /path/to/command09:26
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CJMillerThere are no third-party Skype clients09:26
maffeluUhm, I'm installing ubuntu on a computer as we speak and all I get is a black and white garble on my screen, anyone had that?09:26
badbanditbtw how do I load in classic mode now? I can't even do that09:26
dr_willis!classic09:26
ubottuThe default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. To switch back to regular !GNOME: log out, click your username, click the Session box at the bottom of the screen, and select "Ubuntu Classic". For 11.10, see !notunity09:26
badbanditat least with the last upgrade I could do that09:26
dr_willis!nounity09:27
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic09:27
badbanditftw09:27
badbanditbtw09:27
dr_willisUnity is the default for the foreseable future for ubuntu, and gnome is now 'gnome-shell'   gnome2 is dead..09:27
badbanditwhere is my restart button!?09:27
auronandace!gnome2 | badbandit09:27
ubottubadbandit: The GNOME Foundation has ceased support for GNOME 2, and as such it is not in Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot). See !notunity for an alternative desktop experience.09:27
badbanditonly shutdown09:27
badbandithtf is there no restart option1?09:27
afflictoCJMiller ok I was looking for more like 1 software that connects to both. for easier organization of chats, tabs.. etc. I know pidgin does it.09:28
badbanditI see suspend/hibernate/shutdown09:28
pdqbadbandit, click shutdown and restart option is there09:28
badbanditpdq - that is TERRIBLE fucking diesng09:28
badbanditdesign09:28
pdqor so i hear, i never shutdown :P09:28
dr_willisenough ranting also...09:28
badbandithow the fuck is there no restart option, do they do usability testing with normal people?09:29
llutzyou don't want to ask about " usability " when using gnome09:29
szalheheh09:30
badbanditthis is ridiculous09:30
badbanditsomething so simple09:30
dr_willisnnx:  ie:  the launcher should run a command like       xterm -e /path/to/command09:30
llutzbadbandit: and pls take your rants to #ubuntu-offtopic now, you are wrong here09:30
badbanditllutz: how do i restart?09:30
badbanditllutz: why is it not obvious?09:30
llutzbadbandit: i don't know/care, i'm using 10.1009:30
badbandithow do i tell what verion im using?09:31
szalneither do I, I use KDE (Kubuntu)09:31
dr_willisI belive theres various tweaks at the webupd8 blog site about those menus09:31
llutzlsb_release -a badbandit09:31
badbanditsince the whole UI changed09:31
badbanditw/o command line!09:31
pdqbadbandit, gnome system monitor shows version/kernel09:32
badbanditmy 2nd monitor isnt detected09:32
s0neebadbandit: open terminal, enter "sudo shutdown -P now". then BOOM, youre shutting down (or "reboot" for rebooting)09:32
hvnsomeone familiar with stuttering cable connection in 11.10?09:32
badbanditawesome09:32
dr_willishvn:  by cable connection you mean?09:32
hvnwell when I approach normal adresses it takes minutes to reach them09:32
badbandits0nee: pretending Im not a computer scientist - how the hell does an average user know that? restart should be in the shutdown list by default09:32
nnxthanks dr09:33
s0neebadbandit: i understand that09:33
dr_willis!brainstorm09:33
ubottuPost your ideas for Ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like!09:33
hvndoes it has something to do with the ipv6 settings?09:33
pdqbadbandit, user discovery, when a user doesn't see option and is forced to clik shutdown the option is discovered, like easter egg :]09:33
badbanditdoes anyone know how to get my monitor to be detected in oneriric?09:33
dr_willishvn:  ive not heard much about ipv6 issues in ages.09:33
badbanditpdq: users do not like to find easter eggs for simple tasks.09:34
hvndr_willis: I had it in 11.4 aswell09:34
s0neebadbandit: "sudo Xorg -configure" to get new xorg.conf09:34
badbandits0nee: server already running09:34
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badbanditdoes not detect second display when I hit "detect" in "display"09:35
s0neebadbandit: kill it. "sudo pkill X". BE SURE to backup the old xorg.conf09:35
dr_willisactually monitor config is under 'monitors' isent it?09:35
badbandits0nee: won't that kill my monitor09:35
dr_willisI dont have any dual monitor setups at the moment.09:35
caroloseaveshello to all. I have installed windows 7 on the first partition and then I installed ubuntu 11.10 on another partition afterwards. GRUB did not install it just boots ubuntu. the ubuntu partition was extended and included some swap partitions from ubuntu 10.0409:35
s0neebadbandit: switch to a tty09:35
caroloseaveshow do I get grub to work?09:35
badbandittty?09:36
s0neebadbandit: are you running a nvidia card ?09:36
badbandits0nee: yes, how do i get to nvidia settings/09:36
dr_willismulti monitor setup and unity and gnome-shell - is still a work in progress.09:36
s0neebadbandit: if nvidia then its simpler. run "nvidia-settings"09:36
xgt001hello....i installed oss video drivers removing fglrx updates ... I am getting just the wallpaper when I select unity or unity 2d help please09:37
dc5alacaroloseaves, when it boots Ubuntu then grub is working, no?09:37
badbandits0nee: thanks, got 2nd monitor up with nvidia-settings...09:38
s0neebadbandit: no problem09:38
s0neexgt001: what do you mean by "just the wallpaper" ?09:38
dr_willisbadbandit:  it may not work 100% correct untill you save the xorg.conf and restart the X server.. apps running befor you applied the cnages - can get confsed09:38
caroloseavesthere is no menu.lst under boot/grub09:38
dr_williscaroloseaves:  grub2 dosent use a menu.lst -09:39
dc5alacaroloseaves, you have now grub209:39
xgt001s0nee: I mean only wallpaper after I login from lightdm... if I select gnome fallback it works, but I have installed the radeon driver :(09:39
dr_williscaroloseaves:  you edit the /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/ files as needed09:39
caroloseavesdr_willis explain09:39
dr_willis!grub2 | caroloseaves09:39
ubottucaroloseaves: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)09:39
s0neexgt001: did you reconfigure the xorg.conf ?09:40
dc5alacaroloseaves, when you do not see grub at boot you may try holding shift key09:40
dr_willisgrub2 auto hide setting is in /etc/default/grub - i always set it to always show.09:40
caroloseavesdc5ala I don't  it at all the monitor says "out of range" and then goes blank and then boots ubunt09:41
caroloseaveslet me check that dr_willis09:41
dr_williscaroloseaves:  theres settings in /etc/default/grub for the res of the grub menu screen also.. it may be its trying a res your  monitor cant handle.09:42
dr_willisi always set it to use the simple text menu09:42
innovateHello, i need some help configuring security on my ubuntu 10.04 servers. Because of the risk locking myself out i need some directions in changing port 22 ssh access, and disabling the root user09:42
dr_willis# Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only)09:42
dr_willis#GRUB_TERMINAL=console09:42
dr_willisI perfer to disable the grahical terinal :)09:42
dr_willisYou can make it beep, or play a tune also. :) last lines in /etc/default/grub09:43
dc5alacaroloseaves, had that problem on another machine too, see dr_willis infos :)09:44
dc5alacaroloseaves, and read the top lines in that file too, is bit different than what you are used to09:45
dr_willissuper mario grub init tune...  http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/8275/grub2-set-super-mario-as-startup-tune09:45
jakesgues when i am install software with software center one error will be diplay like "Requires installation of untrusted packages"09:46
caroloseavesdr_willis I set #timeout=0 to #timeout=25 and #hidden-timeout-etc=false09:46
Ronnieis there a good commandline program to replace x by y in a groep of files?09:46
jakeswhy this happen09:46
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dr_willisRonnie:  replace a  the text of 'foo' by 'bar' you mean?09:47
jakesThe action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.09:47
Ronniedr_willis: yes09:47
dr_willisjakes:  i noticed that also today.. keys may have changed or somthing else going on.09:47
jakeswhat??09:47
caroloseavesdr_willis #grubterminal=console that is correct.09:47
dr_willisRonnie:  awk/sed, i recall a 'gres' script command ages ago09:47
dr_williscaroloseaves:  you uncomment it.... remove the #09:47
dr_willisGRUB_TERMINAL=console09:48
s0neeinnovate: edit the configuration file /etc/ssh/sshd_config09:48
mrbrdomachey guys I have a problem with mysql not auto-starting at boot. i tried update-rc.d mysql defaults but it's still not starting at boot09:48
caroloseavescool!!09:48
mrbrdomaceven though the files are present in /etc/rc0.d/K20mysql09:48
mrbrdomacetc09:48
caroloseaveshow about the timeouts?09:48
dc5alamrbrdomac, does it start manually?09:50
s0neemrbrdomac: hmm ubuntu now uses upstart so the traditional method using /etc/rcX.d does not work any more09:50
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s0neemrbrdomac: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto09:51
dr_willisthe rc# stuff is sort of grandfathered in . by upstart scripts i belive.. but its best to learn how upstart works09:52
dr_willisits possible mysql is starting, then exiting. if networking is not up09:52
xgt001i am not able to start unity 3d .... i removed ati fglrx driver and installed radeon driver please help09:52
`Abhijitbbiab.09:54
s0neexgt001: run "lspci | grep VGA" then post the output09:55
xgt001s0nee, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Robson CE [AMD Radeon HD 6300 Series]09:55
caroloseavesdr_willis it did not work. I went to terminal. went to etc/default/ typed sudo gedit grub. uncommented #GRUB_TERMINAL=console. rebooted still no grub menu09:56
dr_williscaroloseaves:  you did rerun 'sudo update-grub' like the grub2 docs/guides always mention?09:56
s0neexgt001: ok. now are you in graphical mode ?09:56
caroloseaveshaha sorry09:56
mrbrdomacs0nee: hm this could be a problem09:56
xgt001s0nee, i am in unity 2d09:56
buharinhow to edit panel with battery etc. ?09:56
mrbrdomacs0nee: i am on VPS and i think there are problems with upstart and VPS09:56
mrbrdomacdc5ala: yes it starts manually just fine09:57
dr_willisbuharin:  i think you can alt or control right click on them..09:57
dr_willisor was it alt-ctrl-rightclick09:57
s0neexgt001: run "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" then look for lines that start with "Driver"09:57
AfflictoHey all, I'm having problems. I can't play any music in Banshee. nothing happens when I doubleclick tracks :(09:57
mrbrdomacs0nee: is there a way to make it start with init.d instead of upstart?09:57
mrbrdomacs0nee: although apache starts fine tho09:57
dr_willisAfflicto:  i couldent get banshee to play anything at all the other day..09:57
buharindr_willis, nothing from this09:57
s0neemrbrdomac: i doubt that. what about writing a script that run "service mysql start" at bootup ?09:58
ifvoid_doesn anyone know which script mounts /run ?09:58
mrbrdomacs0nee: i can try09:58
xgt001s0nee, err...i opened it its all blank... i have the fglrx backup xorg.conf.... could it be of any use?09:58
mrbrdomacs0nee: do i put it in default?09:58
ifvoid_I want to reduce its size, but cant' find where is is mounted09:58
dr_willisbuharin:  i recall seeing some info on tweaking the gnome classic panels at webupd8 blog site. I dont use the classic/failsafge stuff.. they sort of stink.09:58
llutzmrbrdomac: upstart should run the old rcX.d-scripts by default. check if the startscript isn't run or mysql fails to start09:58
mang0Is there a way I can get that sort of thing on my ubuntu desktop? Gnome, 11.04... http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/ycj3k2xm/Selection_001.png09:59
mrbrdomacllutz: how can i check if its ran09:59
s0neexgt001: hmm then use the old one. look for the line "Driver <your old driver>" and replace it with "Driver <your new driver>"09:59
llutzmrbrdomac: add a line like "date >/tmp/mysql.run" and check09:59
dr_willisHmm. neat info on /run --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/57297/why-has-var-run-been-migrated-to-run09:59
ugurhello. how can i change location of unity panel ?10:00
llutzmrbrdomac: check mysql-logs or daemon.log for errors related to mysql10:00
xgt001s0nee, hmmm thanks... anyone know how to make radeon driver auto generate xorg.conf file?10:00
llutzmrbrdomac: does mysql start if you call it manually? sudo service mysql start10:00
caroloseaveseureka dr_willis my boys thank you now they can play on windows10:00
s0neexgt001: run "sudo Xorg -configure" to generate a new xorg.conf file10:01
mrbrdomacs0nee: adding an init script that starts mysql worked10:01
dr_williscaroloseaves:  you could set windows to be the default if you wanted10:01
s0neexgt001: then replace it with the current one10:01
mrbrdomacllutz: yes it starts normally10:01
alesanhi; I have a sd card that is formatted as NTFS10:01
mrbrdomacllutz: i just added an init script that just starts mysql and added it to rc.d and it works now10:01
alesanI have a SD reader... how do I mount it? from the command line if possible10:01
mrbrdomacdat upstart is a piece of crap10:01
s0neemrbrdomac: cool.10:01
caroloseavesdr_willis in the grub file?10:01
mrbrdomaci have only problems with upstart10:02
caroloseavesok I will read the manual for that10:02
xgt001s0nee, i get this error Server is already active for display 0 .... should i do it in tty?10:02
caroloseavesyou solved my problem now10:02
s0neexgt001: switch to a tty then run "sudo pkill X" to stop X server. then run xorg -configure again10:02
llutzmrbrdomac: you have to get used to it, if you use *buntu. let's hope they will omprove documentation and tools10:02
prophethi guys, is there any grub/multibooting expert in here? i'm trying to solve a problem that is not involving ubuntu but it's a linux-generic one10:03
mrbrdomacllutz: its not stable10:03
RocketJoewill bad things happen if I skip install of language packs during Ubuntu install ?10:03
mrbrdomacllutz: it seems to have hardcore issues with virtualization10:03
Jordan_Uprophet: This is #ubuntu. For general grub support try #grub. For general Linux support try ##linux.10:03
s0neeprophet: check your grub configuration file /boot/grub/grub.cfg10:03
mrbrdomacllutz: cause ever since i got that upstart on my VPS ive been having loads of problems10:03
mrbrdomacanyway thanks, cu later10:04
llutzmrbrdomac: i don#t care, i only use it on my netbook. on all other systems i prefer debian10:04
dr_willisalesan:  sudo ntfs-3g /dev/THEdevicename /media/MakeaMountpoint10:05
prophetthanks s0nee, i will try that. Jordan_U ok, thanks10:05
Jordan_Uprophet: You're welcome.10:05
llutzRocketJoe: no, you can/should install at least the one for your native language later. it might give warnings about locale setting10:06
dr_willisgiven how long upstart has been in use..  many people havent even noticed it has been changed from the sysv system. :)10:06
s0needr_willis: since 200610:06
alesandr_willis, it says it does not have valid NTFS; but the camcorder can see it and I can play videos out of it...10:07
dr_willisim suprised the sysv stuff hasent been totally removed yet. but guess its around for a reason10:07
llutzdr_willis: most users don't have to deal with personal start-/stop-scripts10:07
dr_willisalesan:  whats the exact command yu are using?10:07
alesansudo ntfs-3g /dev/mmcblk0 /mnt/10:08
alesansudo ntfs-3g /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt/10:08
alesanfor both it says:10:08
dr_willisalesan:  what does fdisk -l say agbout it?10:08
alesanNTFS signature is missing.10:08
alesanFailed to mount '/dev/mmcblk0': Invalid argument10:08
alesanThe device '/dev/mmcblk0' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS.10:08
llutzdr_willis: sysV would have been dropped if debian would have desided to use upstart too, i guess10:08
alesan/dev/mmcblk0p1               2       26683    63073280    7  HPFS/NTFS10:08
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alesandr_willis, ^^^ that was the relevant output of fdisk10:09
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s0neealesan: what about "sudo mkdir /media/mmc && sudo mount /dev/mmcblk0 /media/mmc"10:11
dr_willisalesan:  ive had laptops that for some reason couldent read the sdcards.. but that one seems to be seen correctly. I got no other ideas.10:11
alesandr_willis, other SD cards work perfectly10:12
alesanfor example I even use it to fsck cards with ext3 used by embedded boards etc10:13
alesanbut this one... with NTFS...10:13
erisucohi10:14
s0neeerisuco: hi10:14
alesans0nee, it asks to specify the fs type10:14
newhoaDoes anyone have any idea why when I try to chat in #Inkscape all I get is: Cannot send to channel10:16
s0neealesan: then add option "-t <fs type>" to mount. "man mount" for the list of fs10:16
alesanyeah ok10:16
_trinenewhoa, you probably need to have a registered nick and be identified10:17
Jordan_Ualesan: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid"?10:17
s0neealesan: if its ntfs then try "mount -t ntfs /dev/mmcblk0 /media/mmc"10:17
newhoaIt doesn't give any information on that... and I'm not sure how to do it!10:17
alesanJordan_U, it does not read anything from the SD card maybe I need some option?10:18
antoinethewiz1@newhoa http://wiki.freeculture.org/IRC_with_Pidgin10:18
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alesans0nee, the device "X" doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS. X is /dev/mmcblk0 or /dev/mmcblk0p110:19
s0neealesan: hmm then try both. if its not ntfs then look in "man mount" for different file systems10:20
alesanJordan_U, if I do blkid /dev/mmcblk0 it does not print anything.10:20
alesanI tried both, I just told you10:20
Jordan_Ualesan: Can you please pastebin the output of "sudo blkid" and "sudo parted -l"? (even if neither mentions mmvcblk0)10:20
s0neealesan: then try different FS's if its not ntfs10:21
dr_willisactually wouldent it be -t ntfs-3g ?10:21
laptopikhi all10:21
dr_williscould be its vfat and getting miss-reported10:21
laptopikhi10:22
antoinethewiz1Hello laptopik10:22
laptopikfirst time here10:22
s0needr_willis: in the man page its ntfs10:22
alesanhttp://pastebin.com/T1krmyJy10:23
alesanJordan_U, ^^^10:23
dr_williss0nee:  ntfs-3g is not the same as 'ntfs'  :)10:23
dr_willis!ntfs-3g10:23
ubottuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions10:23
alesandr_willis, I tried forcing it to vfat but it's not work10:23
dr_willisntfs is the read only fs.10:23
laptopikexit10:23
s0needr_willis: 3g is a driver and ntfs is a type :)10:23
dr_willisalesan:  im out of ideas then.10:23
krasnozerwhen i log in with unity all i get is an empty screen with the nautilus menu on top, how do i fix it ?10:24
dr_willisunless its some weird variant of ntfs/vfat10:24
alesanI will have to see if this card can be read on a regular computer10:24
HalabundHi all!  I'd like to experiment with a web server, and setting up WordPress, on Ubuntu (novice).  But first things first: how can I make sure that it's only accessible from my own computer and not from any other computers? (for safety, until I actually manage to learn how these things work)10:25
AfflictoI just installed ubuntu 11.10. Why do windows lag like hell whenever I drag them? (I have installed ATI properitary drivers)10:25
HalabundAny help will be most appreciated10:25
Jordan_Ualesan: I need the output of "sudo blkid" not "sudo blkid /dev/mmcblk0".10:26
alesanJordan_U, that only has info about my first hard disk10:26
s0neeHalabund: how do you access your server ? ssh ?10:26
alesanait a sec Jordan_U that I pastebin it10:26
alesaneven if it's only 3 lines...10:27
alesanhttp://pastebin.com/VD0BekEj Jordan_U10:27
Jordan_Ualesan: Can any other OS mount this filesystem?10:27
alesanJordan_U, the camcorder one can...10:27
alesanI can record and playback videos.10:27
Halabunds0nee, I'm sitting in front of it.  I don't actually want to use this computer as a server.  I just want to learn how these things work, playing around a bit. And I'd like to make sure others can't access it as a webserver, to feel safe10:27
alesanI have not tried on another computer if that if what you mean10:28
Jordan_Ualesan: Why do you think it's an ntfs filesystem?10:28
drake01Afflicto, open ccsm->openGL->uncheck SyncToVBlank...10:28
newhoa_trine, Thanks for that. It says I need a key to change password... not sure how to get this.10:28
Afflictodrake01: oh.. what's that? Vertical Sync?10:29
antoinethewiz1Halabund, just set up a localhost server.10:29
alesanJordan_U, I do not think anything, I just followed instructions here on the channel. In any case, the output of fdisk -l includes:10:29
s0neeHalabund: it should be secure enough without any extra configuration10:29
alesan/dev/mmcblk0p1               2       26683    63073280    7  HPFS/NTFS10:29
Halabunds0nee, I still don't want anyone to access it.  I don't want anyone to see the site.10:29
s0neealesan: hpfs is supported10:29
pie_my wiereless connection is losing all throughput after a few minutes(time varies wildly) after boot, i am still connected but i cant ping he router or anything10:29
Jordan_Ualesan: Fdisk only knows what partition type was listed in the partition table, which isn't really worth much.10:29
pie_*wireless10:29
Halabundantoinethewiz1, how would I do that?10:29
drake01Afflicto, Not really.. First Let me know if it helps u..10:29
s0neealesan: try "mount -t hpfs"10:29
alesanJordan_U, how can I know for sure?10:30
Halabundantoinethewiz1, I installed apache.  Now typing 127.0.0.1 in the address bar gives me a page.  I don't want any other computers to be abelt oa access this page.10:30
oCeanHalabund: do you have 2 separate machines? 1 is the webserver and 1 is your computer? Is the webserver connected to internet?10:30
antoinethewiz1127.0.0.1 is localh10:30
pie_Halabund, can you access it with your internal ip?10:30
antoinethewiz1localhost*10:30
HalabundoCean, it's only my computer is it's connected to the internet.  I don't want any other computers to be able to access this one as a webserver.10:31
pie_also if the port isnt forwarded it shouldnt be a problem afaik10:31
s0neeHalabund: as long as the port is not forwarded, the computer shouldnt be accessible10:31
pie_oh wait you probably dont have a router nvm10:31
newhoa_trine, nm... got it! Thanks!10:31
antoinethewiz1Halabund, check your IP by enterting the command /sbin/ifconfig10:31
oCeanHalabund: you can limit access by adding "Order Allow,Deny" lines in your vhost configuration.10:31
dr_willisthe http configs can also allow connections from spefific ips only.. in your case it could be 127.0.0.110:32
oCeanHalabund: your vhost configuration is in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled10:32
antoinethewiz1Then enter that IP in the address bar10:32
antoinethewiz1if nothing comes up, then only you can see your page10:32
s0neealesan: does "mount -t hpfs" work ?10:32
Jordan_Ualesan: Try using it on another computer / OS. My guess is that the card is using a format proprietary to the camera, or possibly ExFAT. If it's the latter then there is experimental support available for Linux.10:32
pie_My wireless connection is losing all throughput after a few minutes(time varies wildly) after boot, I am still "connected" but I can't ping the router or anything. After rebooting it works fine again, any ideas whats happening?10:33
Jordan_Us0nee: I would be very surprised if it were hpfs. hpfs and ntfs just happen to share the same identifier in msdos partition tables.10:33
Halabundantoinethewiz1, I get the default page ("It works!")10:33
HalabundoCean, thanks, I'll look into that10:33
alesanJordan_U, the card was bought separately from the camcorder.10:33
s0neeJordan_U: idk but in the manpage of "mount" theres hpfs and ntfs10:34
oCeanHalabund: there are many examples online. I can give you one: http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/133913/171/ (search for "allow from" on this site)10:34
alesans0nee, out of desperation I tried hpfs but it did not work, same message as -t ntfs10:34
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dr_willis-t auto   :)10:34
Jordan_Ualesan: Try it on another OS, if that OS can mount it then check what filesystem that OS says it is.10:35
antoinethewiz1Alright, so it's public then... so you need open up the http.conf file in the Apache dir10:35
alesanproblem is that on another computer I have... there is not SD card reader10:35
HalabundoCean, thanks!  I know it's a basic question, but I'm very new to this, just learning now10:35
antoinethewiz1look for "ServerName" and put "127.0.0.1" after it10:35
antoinethewiz1So that it looks like ServerName: 127.0.0.110:36
oCeanantoinethewiz1: that does not limit the access to that site10:36
SemtexHey guys, I'm using firefox 7.0.1 on a 64bit version of ubuntu 11.10 and keep getting lag. Does anyone know how I can fix this?10:36
cntrationalcan you guys recommend me a terminal that supports both Arabic and Devanagari?10:36
Semtexits not network related btw10:36
antoinethewiz1then look for DNS10:36
oCeanantoinethewiz1: I already told Halabund he has to use allow from/deny options in vhost10:36
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antoinethewiz1and set that to 127.0.0.110:36
s0neealesan: then i suggest trying every file system listed in mount's manpage ...10:36
HalabundThanks again to everyone for the answers!10:37
Afflictodrake01 - I disabled it. No difference.10:37
antoinethewizis my name displaying as "antoinethe​wiz" or "antoinethe​wiz1"?10:39
jribantoinethewiz: without the 110:40
A4Hi10:40
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antoinethewizthanks jrib10:40
s0neeA4: hello10:40
SlartibartI get "Valid eCryptfs headers not found in file header region or xattr region" in kern.log when I try to resume from hibernation. I suppose it has to do with something on the /home partition, that's the only place with ecryptfs.. Resuming always fails(just stops) for me, could this be the cause? It's the last entry in log..10:41
A4how can i use wubi (the windows installer for ubuntu) to install ubuntu 10.04 instad of 11.10?10:41
s0neeA4: are you downgrading or doing a clean install ?10:42
A4clean10:42
dr_williswubi can be a pain. :) you sure you want wubi.10:42
A4i only want ubuntu 10.4 :)10:43
dr_willisyou cant do a normal install? with a 10.04 cd?10:43
dr_willisactually a 10.04 cd would have wubi for 10.04 on it.10:43
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A4you mean if i burn the image on a cd?10:44
Jordan_USlartibart: Hibernation is currently not supported with an encrypted swap (which is what you have if you installed with the encrypted /home option).10:44
dr_willisyou can mount iso files...  and get to the contents f you dont want to burn10:44
dr_willisor put it on a flash drive10:44
dr_willisor burn it. :)10:44
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A4gues i wil try to burn if ther is no way with wubi without pain10:46
SlartibartJordan_U: Thanks. How do I remove it? Copy all the files on /home and then reformat /home and swap with no encryptions enabled?10:46
s0neeA4: mounting is enough. you dont have to waste a cd10:46
dr_willisA4:  i gave ways other then burning.. you can get the wubi instraller from the iso file. or perhaps other locations10:46
dr_williswubi will want the iso file anyway..10:46
mang0How do I ping a website from terminal?10:47
A4ok than i mount the image10:47
dr_willismang0:  ping www.bubba.com10:47
mang0dr_willis: *facepalm* should've guessed it would be that simple!10:47
dr_willis:)10:47
s0needr_willis: whats bubba ? a variation of foobar ? (lol)10:48
maffeluWhatever I do when I boot up to isntall Ubuntu it crashes into a antwar-chessboard, anyone had this issue?10:50
dr_willis!nomodeset10:51
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter10:51
maffeludr_willis, but I haven't even started the installation, how can I set parameters before installation? It gives me the "Coptyright" line, shows Ubuntu and the loading sequence animation and then crashes10:52
PinchiukasWhich log contains the output of cron jobs?10:53
AfflictoSo anyone else have any ideas regarding laggy window-dragging @ 11.10 ?10:53
dr_willisnomodeset is used at the very first menu..  the url gives how to get to that menu. when you see the little man=keyboard logo...10:53
AfflictoIs my name freenode?....10:53
s0neeAfflicto: no10:53
dr_willisAfflicto:  some video drivers sort of suck with unity. :()10:53
maffeludr_willis, and then I read some more, sorry :P10:53
Afflictos0nee damnit pidgin made a local alias then10:54
oCeanAfflicto: no, freenode is the name of the network10:54
Afflictodr_willis well can I disable unity? I don't like unity anyway.10:54
dr_willis!freenode10:54
ubottufreenode is the IRC network that you're on! - See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml - freenode has policies that govern how people should use the network which can be read at http://freenode.net/policy.shtml - The Ubuntu channels on freenode also have their own !Guidelines10:54
ShirakawasunaAfflicto: yes10:54
dr_willisAfflicto:  you can use whatever you want if you install it...10:54
s0nee!nounity | Afflicto10:54
ubottuAfflicto: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic10:54
phatJoehavent tried ubuntu in a long time.. what should i pink? kde or gnome?10:54
hi_tux!ff10:54
ubottufirefox is the default web browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion | To install plugins: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxPlugins10:54
dr_willisphatJoe:  install both and try both.. you decide..10:54
zezikczhello, I have a little problem, I can't set up different volume of speakers and headphones - http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6092/alsamixer.png (one year old screen but it looks similar now). Sorry for my english :(10:54
ShirakawasunaAfflicto: there's lots of options besides unity. GNOME3, KDE, XFCE, LXDE, etc.10:54
dr_willisphatJoe:  then theres lxde, and xfce...10:55
hi_tux!linux10:55
ubottuLinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as a kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux10:55
phatJoeoh ok thx10:55
dr_willislxde/lubuntu = very good for low end systems10:55
ShirakawasunaAfflicto: all of those have their own ubuntu-tweaked versions that are pretty awesome. I used xfce (xubuntu)10:55
Afflictook what is the default one that was before unity was implementeD?10:55
oCeanhi_tux: please use the bot in private: /msg ubottu !bot10:55
ShirakawasunaAfflicto: the default was gnome 210:55
hi_tuxsorry10:55
dr_willisAfflicto:  that was gnome2 and gnome2 is basically dead. its gnome-shell now10:55
ShirakawasunaAfflicto: but gnome 2 is no longer maintained, for the most part. You might want to try gnome 3.10:55
dr_willis!gnome-shell10:55
A4ok i mounted the image but now wubi thinks it is a cd and want to start ubuntu install he want to reboot my system...but if i reebot my virtual mount image ist available for install...10:55
dr_willis!gnomeshell10:55
Afflictook, what about xfce? what's the difference? (I'm all about smooth, organized workflow and window management).10:56
dr_willisA4:  you copy the wubi.exe installer somewhere outside the iso. wubi.exe will want the iso file when it starts up i recall.10:56
ShirakawasunaAfflicto: they're just different in little ways. XFCE doesn't have a 3-part menu like gnome 2 did ('places' and such), it has a more start menu-type thing, etc.10:56
A4oh ok thx10:56
dr_willisAfflicto:   you  are all about vague terms. :) heh..10:56
ShirakawasunaAfflicto: You can set it up to be almost exactly the same as gnome 210:57
Shirakawasunawith small differences10:57
dr_willistry them all.. see what you like10:57
skplAfflicto, gnome-shell works well, and it is easy to install in 11.1010:57
Afflictommkaay. sudo command for that? :P10:58
ShirakawasunaAfflicto: I agree with dr_willis. Try out several.10:58
ShirakawasunaAfflicto: the... cleanest way to try them out is to install ubuntu on a virtual machine (virtualbox), but playing with your main installation is also an option :)10:58
Afflictoskpl: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell? :P10:58
skplyeah10:58
FlynsarmyHas anyone figured out how to set nautilus to be the default ftp manager in 11.10? the old method of ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/url-handlers/ftp/%gconf.xml no longer works10:58
dr_willisabd be sure to read the various gnome-shell and unity guides.10:58
jiohdixfce seems to have issues with sessions at times.. every single time I have used it, after about 3 or 4 boots something seems to go wrong10:59
Afflictoawesomeness guys, gonna try gnome-shell. this will install Gnome 3 or whatever, right?10:59
dr_willistheres a lot to them both thats not obvious.10:59
ShirakawasunaAfflicto: pretty much10:59
dr_willisgnome3 is allreasy on 11.1010:59
dr_willisallready10:59
jiohdiif you want the lightness and stability, then LXDE is probably better10:59
ShirakawasunaAfflicto: unity is built on top of most of gnome 3. Gnome shell is the bit that unity replaces.10:59
AfflictoSo I already have gnome3? o.O11:00
FlynsarmyAfflicto: if you're on 11.10 you do11:00
AfflictoI just did terminal command and it didn't say I already have it.. if it ever says that though.11:00
ShirakawasunaAfflicto: Just as a warning, people who like gnome 2 often say they prefer xfce to unity/gnome3 shell. I recommend trying everything :)11:00
FlynsarmyShirakawasuna: doesn't gnome-session-fallback use gnome 3?11:00
ShirakawasunaI'm not sure11:01
ShirakawasunaI've never used it :)11:01
FlynsarmyI'm using it now but not sure how I test. GEdit 3 runs and it uses gnome 3 so I figure that's what i'm on :)11:01
semiprohello... i want to install gnome shell 3.2 in ubuntu... but is there any problems with ubuntu & gnome shell?? i want to be stable11:01
Boffyit does use gnome 3. unity also uses gnome 3. however it does not use gnome shell which is the official gnome interafce11:01
semipro*ubuntu 11.1011:01
dr_willisUnity and gnome-shell are shells on TOP of gnome-311:01
s0neeFlynsarmy: Shirakawasuna fallback to gnome 3 is like unity 2d to unity11:01
dr_willis:) layers upon layers like a cake.11:02
Afflictowhat are .so files? can I install them in ubuntu 64?11:02
s0neeFlynsarmy: Shirakawasuna to gnome shell i mean11:03
Flynsarmys0nee: you wouldn't happen to know how to set compiz to be the default window manager in gnome-session-fallback would you? I ended up moving /usr/bin/metacity and softlinking compiz *hangs head in shame*11:03
rabbi1how to restart rhythmbox11:03
s0neeFlynsarmy: no i use awesome instead ...11:04
Flynsarmys0nee: well how did you change to awesome as default?11:04
semiprodoes ubuntu 11.10 has problems with gnome shell 3.2? thanks11:04
skplsemipro, no11:04
s0neeFlynsarmy: theres a method that uses gconf-tool11:04
s0neeFlynsarmy: gconf-editor11:05
rabbi1how can i restart the audio ?11:05
Flynsarmys0nee: do you happen to know whereabouts in gconf-editor? or could point me to a tutorial11:05
HalabundIs anyone having trouble with gVim on Oneiric?  It keep freezing for me.  E.g. do touch a.html , gvim a.html, then press i, and it freezes.  I don't have a personal vimrc, using the default configuration11:05
Afflictoall audio seems to be woking fine (flash player and banshee) but skype has this wierd noise! help! :(11:05
s0neeFlynsarmy: you mean how to set default wm or a general guide ?11:06
semiproskpl: in ubuntu 11.04 i 've installed gnome shell 3.0 but one day it made an update and the whole system broke... is this scenario prossible again?11:06
Flynsarmys0nee: setting default WM11:06
hoppipollaHey All, anyone can help. Getting really laggy flash player on google chrome via Ubuntu 11.10 X64 using ATI VIdeo Card.11:06
ShirakawasunaHalabund: I tried your steps and no freeze11:06
jribHalabund: try starting gvim from a terminal and look for output11:06
mang0What's a good multi client messaging service? Preferably jabber, gtalk, facebook, maybe irc (if it's good), and msn. if skype is in it, fine, but I know that skype are really stroppy about their licensing11:07
mang0all in one ^11:07
s0neeFlynsarmy: open gconf-editor then go to /desktop/gnome/session/required_components . theres an entry called "windowmanager" in there11:07
dr_willisYou are not going to find one with skype i bet. :)11:07
dr_willis!im11:08
ubottuThe Empathy Instant Messenger is installed by default and supports MSN, XMPP (Jabber, GTalk and  variants), AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ, YIM, IRC and others. See also !Kopete and !pidgin11:08
slack-mDoes anyone know how to format a drive using 4k blocks?11:08
Flynsarmys0nee: is this 11.10? /desktop/gnome has no session folder11:08
jacquesdupontdhey11:08
s0neeFlynsarmy: dont know if it still works. i use gnome shell as default then switch to awesome11:08
jacquesdupontdi'm here for the same problem i was here yesterday11:08
Flynsarmys0nee: creating teh folders and field won't explode my system if i give it a shot?11:09
jacquesdupontdi really like gnome 3 or gnome shell , and 11.10 but i'm really sad i can't even change the backround color of some windows11:09
barabakaHi! anyone try to setup gnome 3 on computer with ati videocards?11:09
jacquesdupontdlike the synaptic or nautilus11:09
rabbi1"sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart"  is not helping in restarting my audio...11:09
ubuntuhi all, I've a problem with my ubuntu, I'm on live cd at the moment, I've my 4 partition on my hard disk (windows, ubuntu, swap and home), until this morning I haven't had any problem, but now I can just reach the login window, and then I cannot enter desktop11:10
s0neeFlynsarmy: the computer wont explode but that will have no effect11:10
ubuntuwhat can I do?11:10
jacquesdupontdit comes from settings i had made from the previous version of ubuntu but now it applied the color settings to the new update11:10
jacquesdupontdand i would just like to reset the settings in order to get the normal ambiance theme or any other one11:10
rabbi1try Ctlr+ALT+F6 and try to login from the terminal ubuntu11:11
jacquesdupontdbut when i change a theme it does the same thing , i don't know what to do11:11
jacquesdupontdi've tried gnome color changer , or gnome tweak11:11
ubuntuit's not a problem of login, because with "passwd" I reset my password, and login windows doesn't says the password is wrong, just reload itself11:12
jacquesdupontdbut it didn't resolved any of those problems , i deleted my old ./themes and it does nothing else11:12
jacquesdupontdhow comes we can't change settings to reset to normal windows color11:12
jacquesdupontdi've seen that this problem is a lot discussed over internet since 11.10 but none of the thread resolved my problem11:13
Flynsarmys0nee: that's interesting. the folder ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager already exists with a %gconf.xml file in it with the correct window manager. this doesn't appear in gconf-editor though. any ideas why?11:13
s0neeFlynsarmy: sorry but idk about those stuffs11:13
BluesKajHi all11:14
Halabundjrib, it doesn't say anything in the terminal.  It does go into insert mode eventually but only after about a 10-second delay.  I tried to re-install vim completely using synaptic, and also remove all systemwide vim-addons (it was only latex-suite), but the same thing still happens11:14
s0neeubuntu: it seems like the problem is the window manager. try clicking the gear icon then choose another session11:14
jacquesdupontdhighlighting is completely bad , black on black on nautilus , and highlighting is doing the same thing , i'm sure i could do something about it , it shouldn't be so hard , i'm on ubuntu for 5 years now11:14
SalahGoHi people! i have some problem updating my cache, a lot of ign in translations & packages!11:14
jribHalabund: which version of vim did you install? vim-gnome, vim-gtk, etc?11:14
SalahGois it due to the upgrade?!11:14
HalabundShirakawasuna, it does seem strange that such a common program would have issues.  Do you have any suggestions on how to debug it?  it does go into insert mode but only after about a 10 second delay.  The window turns grey while it's frozen11:14
dario_AAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo11:15
Halabundjrib, vim-gnome11:15
SalahGoi changed the update server, deactivated a lot of depots11:15
SalahGonothing11:15
ubuntuI've tried with gnome and it's been the same, but I can log in in the guest session11:15
dr_willisjacquesdupontd:  theres ubuntu-tweak that has some 'reset settings' feature. but its in alpha for 11.10 ,11:15
SalahGosame problem, update cache fails11:15
jribHalabund: try uninstalling that and installing vim-gtk.  See if issue persists.  This is mainly just to narrow down the problem.  We can switch back to -gnome later11:15
s0neeubuntu: press "ctrl alt f1" then log in11:16
ubuntuI did it, the login went well, but there was a message abount mount11:16
ubuntu*about mount11:17
s0neeubuntu: whats the msg ?11:17
hahi, does anyone know how to figure out which of the boot processes mentioned in bootchart can be removed (and the way  to do it) so as to decrease the boot time11:17
jacquesdupontdubuntu tweak ? i think i tried it11:17
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Space-DuckWhats the cmd to launch ubuntu one?11:18
SalahGoguys, any idea? why this update cache fails?11:18
jacquesdupontdbut dr_willis  it didn't changed anything , i'm running gnome 3 but whatever it does the same thing on every possible session log11:18
jacquesdupontdubuntu , unity , 2d or 3d11:18
ubuntusomething about unable to mount11:18
ubuntuI suppose it referred to home partition11:19
dr_willisjacquesdupontd:  not sure then. make a new user.. see if it affects them perhaps? try somthing way out there like installing icewm :) see if its also messed up11:19
haany one with an answer??11:19
s0neeubuntu: can you copy and paste it here ? {if its short)11:19
jacquesdupontdi've tried to delete all files where color changes could be set i don't have any ideas any more , i reinstalled light themes completly11:20
jacquesdupontdi don't understand it at all , and i know linux for a long time11:20
dr_willisha:  if you dont know what ones do what.. then its. prob best to leave them alone.11:20
ubuntuI need to reboot and try again11:20
dr_willisjacquesdupontd:  if a newly made user has identical problems.. then it may be a system setting issue..11:20
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jacquesdupontdyou understood the problem , i had made some window color changes on the older version , but instead of reseting theme for the new 11.10 update it kept it and applied it to the new theme11:21
jacquesdupontds11:21
jacquesdupontdi'm sure this won't change anything if i create another user11:22
ubuntuI'm going to try, thank you s0nee11:22
jacquesdupontdthere are tones of thread on that subject11:22
jacquesdupontdbut no really good answer11:22
fertilehello11:23
jacquesdupontdjust an example of a thread that doesn't work for me11:23
jacquesdupontdhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75454.html11:23
fertilehello11:23
AfflictoOk I have installed gnome3 now - how do I switch?11:24
jacquesdupontdok i'm going to reload lightdm11:24
jacquesdupontdAfflicto, in session login11:24
Afflictok thanks11:24
Afflictobrb then xP11:25
wonderworldhi, i removed pulseaudio to fix sound problems. i reinstalled it, everything works now, but the sound panel applet is missing11:25
jacquesdupontdyou've got a button to change the session you want to enter in , gnome , unity , unity 2d etc ..11:25
wonderworldhow can i reenable it?11:25
jacquesdupontdwonderworld, wich version of ubuntu are you on ?11:25
wonderworldi reinstalled "sound-indicator" but the applet doesn't show up in the panel11:25
wonderworld11.1011:25
Afflictojacquesdupontd: can I do it without logging off? :P11:25
jacquesdupontdhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/66414/how-to-add-applets-to-unity-or-classic-gnome-panel11:26
wonderworldjacquesdupontd: no it used to be in the indicator-area (where the email icon and networking icons are) you can't customize this area this way i think11:27
jacquesdupontdAfflicto, no you have to log out of a session by closing it and then login in again with the settings you wanted by changing the session you want to go in, gnome will make you go under gnome 3 (really cool) unity for unity 3d and unity 3d11:27
jacquesdupontd2d sorry11:27
jacquesdupontdwonderworld, i gave you an adress http://askubuntu.com/questions/66414/how-to-add-applets-to-unity-or-classic-gnome-panel11:27
jacquesdupontdtell me if it helps you11:27
Space-Duckjacquesdupontd, do you know how I can launch ubuntu one under fluxbox?11:28
jacquesdupontdhmm11:28
wonderworldjacquesdupontd: no it doesn't...(maybe because i am using xubuntu atm.) let me change my session to unity11:28
s0neeSpace-Duck: ubuntuone-launch ?11:28
jacquesdupontdnever tried it , couldn't tell you something good make a google search cause i don't want to tell you something stupid11:28
suldrunsalut11:28
jacquesdupontdsuldrun, salut c'est pour #ubuntu-fr11:29
jacquesdupontdnot for  #ubuntu11:29
jacquesdupontdok guys lemme check if i resolved my problem i come back in a sec11:29
ServerTechLaptopMy Ubuntu 11.10 computer is not booting up. The unlock hard drive screen has characters which look like blocks, and does not continue thereafter. Even in recovery mode, it doesn't continue after the component loading. Any ideas?11:30
Space-Ducks0nee, thank you.11:30
s0neeSpace-Duck: no problem11:30
HoppipollaAnyone can help me with flash player x64 11 performance is terrible Sound is way laggy after video, using Oneiric X64 with ATI VIdeo Card11:30
s0neeServerTechLaptop: unlock hdd screen ?11:31
fsDNBFcxhey11:31
Must`see1can someone help me,q me11:31
ServerTechLaptops0nee: oh my hdd is lvm encryped, so yea.11:31
BluesKajHoppipolla, on websites or flash files on the desktop?11:32
scxhello11:32
s0neeServerTechLaptop: does it reports any errors ?11:32
Must`see1NBA LOCKOUT END's,finelly,chech more info in http://www.krepsininkas.net/invite.php?invite=545011:32
ServerTechLaptops0nee: nope11:32
scxCould you tell me result of this command:11:32
scxgrep -H -R -i pam_gnome_keyring.so /etc/pam.*11:32
scxthanks in adv.11:33
HoppipollaBluesKaj: On websites11:33
jacquesdupontdre11:33
HoppipollaBluesKaj: For example on haxball if you knwo  it11:33
jacquesdupontdok i'm loosing it , this problem is out of being understable11:33
s0neeServerTechLaptop: you just installed ubuntu or upgraded or what ?11:33
jacquesdupontdunderstandable11:33
ServerTechLaptops0nee: upgraded.11:34
oCeanMust`see1: don't post that here11:34
wonderworldok. it didn't work. do you know by any chance how to run the standard unity-mixer from console?11:34
BluesKajHoppipolla, not familiar , got a url?11:34
AfflictoHey11:34
HoppipollaBluesKaj: haxball dot com11:34
jacquesdupontdi will surely see soon an update resolving the problem cause i'm really not the only one , what is the purpose of updating a distro like ubuntu and forgetting about themes settings or even changing colors of background ... really bad11:34
AfflictoOk I enabled Gnome now, logged in. ooooo..shit that notification in the bottom center is just epic!! - however, everything is bugged.. textures, text and buttons seems completely glitched!! :(11:35
ubuntus0nee I'm back11:35
d0hjlol11:35
s0neeServerTechLaptop: hmm i have not used lvm encryption before so idk the steps. it hangs there ? between GRUB and boot splash ?11:36
ServerTechLaptops0nee, yep it hangs there with a black screen. Same in recovery mode.11:36
s0neeubuntu: ok whats the error msg ? go to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and paste it11:37
ubuntuthis is the output of the login: http://paste.ubuntu.com/723164/11:37
bytexcodedesktop:~$ sudo apt-get install libssl0.9.611:37
bytexcodeReading package lists... Done11:37
bytexcodeBuilding dependency tree11:37
bytexcodeReading state information... Done11:37
bytexcodeE: Couldn't find package libssl0.9.611:37
FloodBot1bytexcode: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:37
s0neeServerTechLaptop: can you press ctrl alt f1 and log in ?11:37
bytexcode??11:38
dr_willis!info libssl11:38
ubottuPackage libssl does not exist in oneiric11:38
dr_willis!find libssl11:38
ubottuFound: libssl-dev, libssl-doc, libssl1.0.0, libssl1.0.0-dbg, libcherokee-mod-libssl11:38
auronandace!paste | bytexcode11:38
ubottubytexcode: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:38
ServerTechLaptops0nee, let me try11:39
bytexcodecan someone help me to install yahoo messenger in ubuntu11:39
ubuntuand whats more form the live cd  I've just checked my partitions, and the swap one is not recognized11:39
auronandacebytexcode: can't you use pidgin?11:39
dr_willisbytexcode:   You install some IM client that can do yahoo...11:39
dr_willisbytexcode:  the offical yahoomessanger for linux hasent beenupdated in years last i looked.11:39
HoppipollaBluesKaj: So have tou tryed ? :)11:40
lhrlsg_quit11:41
plouffeto avoid accidentally brushing touchpad and relocating text cursor to mouse position: is it possible to turn off the mouse click function on the touchpad itself, so that ONLY the actual touchpad buttons can be used for mouseclicks?11:42
auronandaceplouffe: yes11:42
dr_willisplouffe:  i thought i saw settings for that in the control center's touchpad tool.11:42
Sir_Hi everyone11:42
dr_willisand a disable on type option11:42
wonderworldwhat is the console command for the standard unity audio mixer?11:43
plouffedr_willis, I will look11:43
BluesKajHoppipolla, the whole site is flash driven , meaning on my big scrn tv/monitor the fonts etc are to small to read and can't zoom m but it seems very busy ...tried other sites likr youtube ?11:43
Sir_I have problem with dial up connection ubuntu 11.1011:43
plouffedr_willis, is there a command line option, I am on xfce, and can't find a touchpad tool11:43
HoppipollaBluesKaj: YouTube seems to work just fine, but that HaxBall maybe needs more performance and Flash Player for Linux seems to fail totaly while Windows 7 takes everything smoothly11:43
dr_willisplouffe:  no idea  other then to try gnome-*tab* and look. it might not be on xfce.11:44
dr_willisgnome-settings, gnome-control-center   :) not sure.11:44
jacquesdupontdok i'm here with the same problem11:44
auronandaceplouffe: http://www.mydellmini.com/forum/ubuntu/20631-how-disable-tap-click-xubuntu-xfce.html11:44
jacquesdupontdblack background windows on black font11:45
plouffeauronandace, thx will have a look11:45
auronandaceplouffe: add it at the startup items to make it permantant11:45
Cavemanjoin #linuxon11:45
jacquesdupontdand no possibilities of setting it or even reseting themes in 11.10 , such a shame11:45
BluesKajHoppipolla, is it the  default linux flash plugin or did you install a proprietary flashplayer ?11:45
d0hjdoes  anyone know how to get gnome2 back in 11.1011:45
d0hj?11:45
Sir_pppd[2607]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests11:45
auronandaceplouffe: this is the command you want: synclient MaxTapTime=011:45
HoppipollaBluesKaj: I downloaded flashplayer.so from Adobe Website, but tryed default Linux FLash PLugin too, the same result11:46
plouffeauronandace, great, thx11:46
jacquesdupontdd0hj, sure you just have to choose it from the lightdm login page11:46
auronandaceplouffe: no worries :)11:46
Sidewinder1!nounity | d0hj11:46
ubottud0hj: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic11:46
jacquesdupontdd0hj, you can choose gnome , gnome classic , unity , unity 2d and so on11:46
icerootjacquesdupontd: there is no gnome2 anymore just gnome3 with a "theme" for gnome211:46
jacquesdupontdiceroot, true but it does pretty much the same thing except you've got to install to panel11:47
d0hjyeah im now on 11.04 so i can get on thanks!!11:47
icerootjacquesdupontd: yes11:47
plouffeauronandace, this seems to do the job, thanks a lot11:47
jacquesdupontdiceroot, at the same time i don't know exactly why he wants to get gnome 2 i think this is about the appearance11:47
bytexcode<auronandace> thx by the way11:47
ServerTechLaptops0nee, it says Unable to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused. Apparently I can read the unlock screen now.11:47
BluesKajHoppipolla, did you remove the default plugin , if not it could still be the default11:48
HoppipollaBluesKaj: Already check, I removed it properly :)11:48
d0hjbye!11:48
dr_willisThe gnome-2 fallbackmode is - well.. rather lacking in ways. :)  may have been a beter idea if they had just left it out.11:48
s0neeServerTechLaptop: then look for the errors from there. sorry idk about lvm encryption stuffs. aks others.11:49
jacquesdupontdiceroot, hey i'm getting crazy as i really know ubuntu and linux distrib and i've got a problem that i can't sort out , my windows are black on black font in synaptic or nautilus since the update 11.10 but you can't change the background color settings, yes i installed gnome color changer and gnome tweak took , didn't changed anything i deleted everything in ./themes and erased what was in .gtk , still no changes , how11:49
jacquesdupontddoes it comes ?11:49
Gentoo64jacquesdupontd: try deleting dconf11:50
bytexcodei will try to install pidgin11:50
Gentoo64dno if that helps11:50
jacquesdupontdok a new idea great Gentoo6411:50
ServerTechLaptops0nee, okay i can login from command line.11:50
ServerTechLaptopNow how do i start gnome from here?11:50
jacquesdupontdok gonna try this thanks , first new idea something is giving me11:50
s0neeServerTechLaptop: startx11:51
dr_willisjacquesdupontd:  then theres .gconf* with settings11:51
AfflictoOk guys I restarted and logged in with GNOME but it's very glitchy.. graphics are completely retarded. looks like it's using textures from unity or something i dno. please help! :(11:51
s0neeServerTechLaptop: also run "dmesg" to display msgs11:51
Sir_people any idea with error: pppd[2607]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests11:51
jacquesdupontdi know about it , the thing is i could maybe change the colors but i would just like original themes11:51
jacquesdupontdnothing more nothing less11:51
dr_willisAfflicto:  thats a little vague. :)  gnome-shell and unity Do share a lot of the same settings.11:51
BluesKajHoppipolla, not much of a gamer so my flash/java experience is rather limited...dunno how else to help , sorry....maybe some gamers can11:52
ServerTechLaptops0nee, xauth: file /home/administrator/.Xauthority does not exist. Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyxinit: giving up. xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused. xinit: server error.11:53
jacquesdupontdok so Gentoo64 i'm gonna delete the whole directory of dconf and will be able to log again after ?11:53
HoppipollaBluesKaj: No problem, at least you tryed. Trying to ask for help every day for three days, and only one who answered  :)11:53
dr_willisjacquesdupontd:  you could just rename it. :)11:53
s0neeServerTechLaptop: try "sudo service lightdm start"11:53
jacquesdupontdgonna backup it yeah :)11:53
dr_willisjacquesdupontd:  or move all the dirs to some 'archived-settings' dir11:53
Gentoo64jacquesdupontd: yeah but yoll have to redo a load of settings11:54
Gentoo64jacquesdupontd: move it to dconf.backup or somehting instead of delete in case it dont sort it11:54
jacquesdupontdyes11:54
dr_willisI do so much tweaking during beta testing.. i often reset everything back to defaults by vleaning out home. :)11:54
|Long|hi, is there away to remove or re-position sidebar on 11.10?11:54
Gentoo64|Long|: i read you can put it on the bottom11:55
ServerTechLaptops0nee, well for starters it shows a complete black screen.11:55
|Long|can you show me Gentoo64 plz?11:55
Gentoo64http://goo.gl/tDA5811:55
|Long|thanks11:55
ServerTechLaptops0nee, yup complete black11:56
ServerTechLaptopno response at all.11:56
Sir_Gentoo64, any idea with my problem?11:56
ServerTechLaptops0nee, returned to command line using ctrl+alt+f111:57
byteXc0d3ok i am sukses install pidgin11:57
s0neeServerTechLaptop: hmm then no clue. maybe run "dmesg | less" then read the log, look for errors11:58
Afflictodr_willis: ok. The textures, colors and text on the Panel\bar at the top is completely glitchy and has "File Edit View Tools Help" text which aren't even buttons. and it's also white. and the rest of the buttons are black bars. completely bugged.11:58
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dr_willisthe menu items in the top bar dont show as buttons.. just text as far as i kbow.12:00
ServerTechLaptops0nee: don't really see any12:00
dr_willisAfflicto:  install gnome-tweak and perhaps play with the themes.12:00
ServerTechLaptops0nee, anyways thanks for trying.12:01
miyagi_Hello12:01
ServerTechLaptopOkay anyone else has ideas? xauth: file /home/administrator/.Xauthority does not exist. Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyxinit: giving up. xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused. xinit: server error.12:01
maffeluHm, this is the second computer I've tried to install Ubunto on where I've had to read "Sorry, with your graphics card Ubuntu doesn't work". I thought the point of Ubuntu was that it worked out of the box with most hardware, I mean, Nvidia GeForce 8800 isn't a noname product!12:01
testerhello12:02
prophetdamn, has apple bought canonical or the ubuntu ui guys just copy osx hoping that apple "knows what is doing". from an UI perspective the new unity is a major usability/productivity drawback12:02
dr_willismaffelu:  did you check the install 3rd party stuff, and install updates during the install? at the beginning of the install?12:02
miyagi_Need some help compiling in Ubuntu 11.1012:02
Gentoo64prophet: old news12:02
testerthere a brazlian room?12:02
dr_willisI dont find unity anything like OS-X.. its more windows7ish actually.12:03
Gentoo64miyagi_: do you have biuld-essentials installed?12:03
BluesKaj!br12:03
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.12:03
Gentoo64build-essentials?12:03
prophetGentoo64: old news? meaning what exactly?12:03
urbanlimehi, i 'm having an issue with my computer.. every 30 minutes or so I have to reconnect my wireless, because when loading ne w pages it gives a server cannot be found error12:03
Gentoo64prophet: unitys been out for ages12:03
testerthanks12:03
maffeludr_willis, I never get to the install. I followed the advice at the URL you gave me, but when I changed to nomode and started the install it just freezes12:03
prophetGentoo64: ok, i'm talking about all this buttons-on-the-left and dock-style launcher in ubuntu12:04
Sidewinder1miyagi_, Have you checked: http://goo.gl/cgeXe12:04
dr_willismaffelu:  hmm. you did check the md5sum of the cd? i have had no issues on my 3 nvidia systems here.12:04
Gentoo64prophet: yeah, gnome shell is the same. you could try kde, xfce, lxde or whatever theyre "normal"12:04
Gentoo64prophet: gnome has a fallback mode that has 2 plain panels like gnome212:05
maffeludr_willis, I've used Debian before and I've never had a NVidia problem earlier. The last card wasn't a NVidia card, so I accepted that it wouldn't work, but this is standard issue. I don't know how to check the md5sum of the DVD, I'll google it12:05
Sidewinder1!md5sum | maffelu12:05
ubottumaffelu: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows12:05
Sidewinder1!hashes | maffelu12:06
ubottumaffelu: See http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/11.10/MD5SUMS for the md5sums of the latest Ubuntu release12:06
miyagi_Here the problem, checking whether setvbuf arguments are reversed... no12:06
miyagi_checking for non-blocking type... posix12:06
miyagi_checking for a list of signal names... yes12:06
miyagi_checking whether to enable GTK support... no12:06
miyagi_checking whether to enable Win32 GUI support... no12:06
miyagi_checking whether to enable OS/2 PM support... no12:06
FloodBot1miyagi_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:06
jpmhI installed sshpass and it seems to be ok - however, when I do: sshpass -p=password ssh name@myserver.com - it just seems to hang12:07
dr_willis!info sshpass12:07
Sidewinder1!pastebinit > miyagi_12:07
ubottusshpass (source: sshpass): Non-interactive ssh password authentication. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.04-1 (oneiric), package size 9 kB, installed size 64 kB12:07
Gentoo64miyagi_: what are you trying to compile btw?12:07
ubottumiyagi_, please see my private message12:07
dr_williswhy not set up keys so you dont need to give a password?12:07
prophetGentoo64: normal is when you do what you need to do in the fastest way12:08
urbanlimehi, i 'm having an issue with my computer.. every 30 minutes or so I have to reconnect my wireless, because when loading ne w pages it gives a server cannot be found error12:08
jpmhubottu: I know what it is - so why is it not working12:08
buharinhow to fully remove fglrx? I tried smth but it won't work12:08
miyagi_sorry , BitchX  but it's not specific to that .12:08
urbanlimeis there any way I can fix it?12:08
Gentoo64prophet: yeah.. if you like using the mouse try openbox maybe its very fast. you just right click for a custom list of programs to open12:08
Gentoo64prophet: having to click panels then the programs is 10x slower12:09
slyI used to love using openbox and tint212:10
Gentoo64i do prefer lxpanel but im using tint2 atm12:10
prophethaving buttons on the left is normal when the taskbar is up but then again, this is anti-usability. i guess ubuntu is making its users to stay foolish12:10
prophetdo one thing, don't multitask12:10
prophetanyway12:10
Gentoo64prophet: theyre all going the same way12:11
slyInfact12:11
* sly runs off to install openbox12:11
prophetGentoo64: all but windows12:12
miyagi_sorry, BitchX  not specific to that though.12:12
maffeludr_willis, this was my md5sum: c396dd0f97bd122691bdb92d7e68fde5 *ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso, so it's listed at least12:12
Gentoo64miyagi_: isnt bitchx not maintained any more?12:12
prophetGentoo64: open box looks good12:13
Gentoo64prophet: try it12:13
hrolfAnyone knows if installing Windows will mess up with grub (and probably mess with Ubuntu)?12:13
Gentoo64hrolf: yes12:13
Gentoo64youll need to redo grub12:13
Gentoo64to overwrite the windows loader12:13
miyagi_ya, it is but the problem is with any proggy i try to compile12:14
hrolfGentoo64: Then, it'll pickup Ubuntu or do I have to add an entry manually for it?12:14
MrElendighrolf: just reinstall grub to mbr after you are done12:14
Gentoo64hrolf: should pick up windows12:14
cruxxhallo zusammen12:14
hrolfGentoo64: What about the existing Ubuntu?12:14
hrolfWill it get picked up too?12:14
Gentoo64hrolf: itll just boot it, youll get a choice12:14
hrolfGentoo64: Perfect.12:14
ssbplsi want to ask to a question:when i want to use the tftp service,i install the tftp tftpd and xinetd, and i also configure the /etc/xinet.d/tftp,but the tftp does't start.why? I am using the Ubuntu 10.1012:15
hrolfGentoo64: How can I check what version of grub do I have right now (without rebooting) ?12:15
prophetGentoo64: right now i preffer linux mint but it have its problems (specially when installing in a multiboot pc - osx + win7). does ubuntu install allows puting grub on the / partition?12:15
ssbplsI also restart the xinetd : /etc/init.d/xinetd restart12:15
Gentoo64hrolf: what ubuntu is it?12:15
hrolfGentoo64: Is it installed in my Ubuntu partition?12:15
cruxxhat jemand eine idee, woran es liegen kann, dass meine grfische oberfläche von ubuntu nicht mher startet? es kommt immer noch ubuntu... und dann wird das bils weiß bzw. lößt sich auF112:15
hrolfGentoo64: I'm on 11.1012:15
MonkeyDust!ge| cruxx12:16
ubottucruxx: ქართული ენაზე დახმარების მიღებისთვის გთხოვთ შემობრძანდით #ubuntu-ge / Kartuli enaze dakhmarebis mighebistvis gtkhovt shemobrdzandit #ubuntu-ge12:16
Gentoo64prophet: no it has to be on the disk itself at the very first bit12:16
theadmin!de | cruxx12:16
ubottucruxx: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!12:16
Gentoo64hrolf: grub212:16
MonkeyDustoops12:16
cruxxjoin #ubuntu-de12:16
theadmincruxx: Sie haben einen12:16
theadmincruxx: Sie haben einen "/" vergessen :P12:16
prophetGentoo64: it's not mandatory, it can be on the root partition when having another bootloader12:16
Sidewinder1hrolf, This should help immensely: http://goo.gl/DIoMX12:16
Sir_join #ubuntu-ru12:17
theadminSir_: Не забывайте "/".12:17
Gentoo64prophet: you cant put grun on / partition12:17
Gentoo64prophet: i think grub2 can boot osx12:18
theadminGentoo64: You can, if you have another bootloader for your MBR12:18
ssbplswho can solve my problem?12:18
Sir_theadmin: да заметил спасибо12:18
tomodachiGentoo64: prophet  yes it can12:18
Gentoo64but cant grub2 boot osx?12:18
theadminGentoo64: It can12:18
Gentoo64he might as well put in on /sda12:18
Gentoo64and boot al 312:18
tomodachiGentoo64: prophet it didnt work for me though. I use refit to boot my operatingsystems12:19
miyagi_Here's the problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/723203/12:19
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rikutakei want to make a script to run after a fresh install to remove and install some packages12:21
rikutakeid like for it to require entering sudo password just once and not require me to answer yes and no to questinos12:22
hrolfIt might be a silly question, but how can I check where is grub installed?12:22
bluenemorikutake, thats quite simpel. use -y with apt-get and when the script starts, let it start with sudo su12:22
llutz_"sudo -i" don't use sudo su12:23
Sidewinder1Indeed.12:23
rikutakebluenemo: not all the packages require sudo12:23
||arifaXmiyagi_: try sudo apt-get install libncurses-dev maybe helps, saw that via google12:23
bluenemosecurity risk?12:23
theadminbluenemo: What (s)he said, never use "sudo su"12:23
rikutakeso it would be better if each line that requires it had it12:23
bluenemoah ok why? didnt know that. been using it myself for some time now12:23
dr_willisrikutake:  thats how ive normally seen it done.12:23
llutz_bluenemo: it "might" have sideeffects, sudo -i   works correct and sets envoronment as expected.12:23
bluenemoah ok thank you12:24
llutz_theadmin: still "he"12:24
dr_willisrikutake:  if the script takes a Long time.  the sudo timeout might kick in also..12:24
theadminllutz_: Sorry, I do forget sometimes12:24
rikutakewhat is the best way to force install a package without requiring the user to answer yes to any questions?12:24
bluenemoapt-get -y install12:24
theadminllutz_: Hard to keep people in head when you don't talk to them often, sorry, no offense meant12:24
llutz_at least last time i checked... theadmin12:24
llutz_theadmin: no worries12:24
rikutakeoh i see, so e.g. sudo apt-get -y install <package>12:24
rikutake?12:25
bluenemoyes rikutake12:25
llutz_hrolf: afaik you can't12:25
dr_willisof course if the package asks some question as part of its install.. it may still want some info.12:25
bluenemoor ... install <package> <package> ... if you have several12:25
rikutakeaaah cool12:25
rikutakethanks12:25
dr_willislike if you install gdm, it may ask what xdm to use.12:26
Morfeus^Hello all !12:26
bluenemosame for apt-get -y purge12:26
bluenemobut be careful with -y and read the man ;)12:26
rikutakemaybe using the -y option isnt so good after all then?12:26
rikutakelol12:26
bluenemodr_willis, i thought -y would skip all those questions with default values?12:26
neuronlunchhi, does anyone know how to get mutitouch working on oneiric with macbook pro series?12:26
bluenemowell depends on what you want to do rikutake12:26
rikutakewhat about e.g. mysql? what happens if you run that with -y12:27
hrolfllutz_: I have two partitions, on one is Windows XP and on another I have Ubuntu. So on which partition does grub reside? (I installed Ubuntu after XP)12:27
rikutakeit still asks yuo for options such as root password etc12:27
bluenemowell yeah, would be hard to install without those questions yes12:27
llutz_hrolf: the grub-files are on your /-fs, grub was most likely written into MBR12:27
dr_willisbluenemo:  not sure.. ive never really tried..12:28
bluenemoi thought it would do that stuff.. but i'm not sure for every packet either :)12:28
bluenemodr_willis, --assume-yes12:29
bluenemo           Automatic yes to prompts; assume "yes" as answer to all prompts12:29
bluenemo           and run non-interactively. If an undesirable situation, such as12:29
bluenemo           changing a held package, trying to install a unauthenticated12:29
bluenemo           package or removing an essential package occurs then apt-get12:29
bluenemo           will abort. Configuration Item: APT::Get::Assume-Yes.12:29
FloodBot1bluenemo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:29
bluenemosorry guys, reflex..12:30
[Sanyi]AHAHHA not relax? :P12:30
bluenemolol :)12:30
neuronlunchhas anyone had any sucess with compiling hid-dkms in oneiric?12:31
pudgercould someone help me out12:32
neuronlunchwhats up pudger?12:32
bluenemopudger, !ask12:32
bluenemoor so.. :)12:32
bluenemo!ask12:32
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:32
pudger!ask how do I get the data between the quotes in this program http://pastebin.com/ybh6Zn91  I tried using quote and quote2 with subtraction to do find_first_of and find_last_of12:32
ubottupudger: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:32
hrolfIs there any chance I get edit/remove my MBR when I'm partitioning my disk? (I'm assuming that the MBR needs to be on a partition)12:33
hrolflike with gparted12:33
bluenemohrolf, no, mbr is first 512 byte on your hdd12:34
bluenemonot in a partition..12:34
bluenemoto be exact, the mbr defines your partitions :)12:34
Migi32if a process in your terminal intercepts Ctrl-C and doesn't shut down properly, is there a way to force kill it?12:34
hrolfbluenemo: I see.12:34
bluenemokill -9 "pidof name"12:34
genupulasI have a 512Kbps new connection.When i am doing browsing anything with my two browsers(F,GC) its not doing fast and sometimes try again or reload warning messages but when i put download anything its good giving me a rate of 60KB/S , but browsing not good . if its a connection problem then both things not sounds good but download is good enough to me but why browsing have problem , please help me friends my OS is Ubuntu 11.1012:34
Migi32bluenemo, in another terminal then?12:34
bluenemoyes12:35
Migi32ok12:35
llutz_Migi32: pkill -9 part-of-processname12:35
bluenemops aux | grep -i firefox && kill -9 1234512:35
theadminWeird idea, "killall -9 firefox" is simplier12:35
miyagi_ ||arifaX: Thanx, it worked12:36
Migi32lol. Assuming firefox is the frozen process :P12:36
llutz_until you do it on a non-linux system...12:36
theadminllutz_: lol I know what you mean there :D12:36
theadminllutz_: Okay, fine, kill $(pidof firefox)12:36
llutz_pgrep/pkill are to be prefered imho12:36
hrolfOk after I install Windows (and it will modify the MBR and remove grub), how do i reinstall grub so that I can again be able to boot Ubuntu?12:37
neuronlunchhrolf: you need to boot into a live cd12:37
neuronlunchto fix the problem12:37
llutz_!grub2 | hrolf12:37
ubottuhrolf: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)12:37
AkivaIIhey, I updated, and now I have thunderbird and evolution installed. Was this a oversight in ubuntu, or should I get rid of one?12:37
hrolfllutz_: I don't have a live CD, I installed Ubuntu from a USB, will that work?12:38
theadminAkivaII: Just keep whatever you use12:38
icerootAkivaII: in 11.10 thunderbird is the default mailapp, but because ubuntu doesnt want to remove your old program you have both installed12:38
AkivaIIiceroot: thank you, my regards12:38
dr_willishrolf:  you could also install grub to a flash drive as a emeracncy boot loader :)12:38
llutz_hrolf:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub   if your usb-media offers live-cd functionality its fine12:38
RiiiI12:38
AkivaIItheadmin: nice try12:38
dr_willishrolf:  put in a spare flash drive 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc' and let it install to the flash. then test it out.12:39
theadminAkivaII: Huh? I'm rather serious, you don't have to keep all the nonsense that comes preinstalled in Ubuntu :/12:39
kamididoes anyone know why U1 uploads some files 100% but still never finishes?12:39
dr_willishrolf:  a good use for those little bity flash drives :)12:39
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AdamantusI'm trying to change the default option for the grub manager.  I found some instructions which say to go to boot/grub/grub.conf but it's not there.12:39
dr_williskamidi:  theres the #ubuntu-one channel that may have better info. (or was it #ubuntuone12:39
kamididr_willis: thank you12:39
llutz_Adamantus: /etc/default/grub is to be changed12:40
theadminAdamantus: It's grub.cfg, but you shouldn't edit it directly.12:40
dr_willisAdamantus:  it would be grub.cfg. and you dont edit that file by hand....12:40
dr_willis:)12:40
RiiiI'm trying to install ubuntu on my HP Pavilion laptop. It seems that by default HP sets up the hard disk so there are 4 partitions. Is it not possible to have more than 4 partitions? I resized one using the Ubuntu installation tools, but it didn't allow me to install on the newly created space.12:40
theadminRiii: You can't have more than 4 primary partitions with MBR, indeed.12:40
Adamantusllutz, Thanks got it12:41
dr_willisRiii:  'primary' is the key term.12:41
llutz_Adamantus: run "sudo update-grub" after changing the file to make changes active12:41
dr_willisRiii:  you could delete one of the primaries. and make it a extended to hold logicals.12:41
pudgerHow do I get the data between the quotes into a variable with this C++ program: http://pastebin.com/ybh6Zn91    For example: getting the data between <range rng=" and the second " /> being find_first_of("\"") and find_last_of("\"")12:41
dr_willisRiii:  its annoying how pc makers do that 4 primary thing these days.12:41
RiiiAny suggested workarounds? I'd just reinstall Windows if HP had provided CDs...12:41
Riiibut they didn't12:41
jribpudger: ask ##c+=12:42
dr_willisRiii:  #1 - make a backup dvd set..12:42
theadminpudger: You should ask in #c++ or #ubuntu-devel, definetly *not* here12:42
jribpudger: ask ##c++12:42
MrElendigRiii: are you going to dualboot with windows?12:42
RiiiAnd I'm left to guess which of these 4 is safe to delete12:42
RiiiIndeed, plan is to dual boot12:42
MrElendiggot uefi?12:42
Riiibackup dvd set = ?12:42
MrElendigaparently not12:42
RiiiWhat is that?12:42
dr_willisRiii:  if you got the spare ## - get a extra laptop hd.  :) use the backup set to restore to the new hd. and resize/tweak it as needed. and put ubuntu on it.12:42
dr_willisRiii:  every laptops these days come with an app to make a dvd backup set.12:42
RiiiAh, lol12:43
dr_willisRiii:  check the pc's docs/menus/help...12:43
Riiiok12:43
Riiii'll do that12:43
neuronlunchdoes anyone know how to downgrade after an update? I know this is a bit noobish.12:43
dr_willisRiii:  when i get a new laptop these days. i alweays buy a 2nd hd for it. to  make a hd clone. :)12:43
theadminneuronlunch: You can not.12:43
MrElendigput windows on a primary partion or two, then make a extended and fill it with logical partions and put ubuntu on that12:43
MrElendigor just make a single partion for ubuntu and put lvm2 on it12:43
jribneuronlunch: why do you want to?12:43
neuronlunchbooo.... to launchpad, thanks theadmin:12:43
neuronlunchjrib: regression12:44
RiiiMrElendig; this will wipe out windows though and require me to make this backup CD, correct?12:44
jribneuronlunch: be more specific12:44
theadminneuronlunch: Just wait till they fix it12:44
miyagi_O:-)12:44
theadminneuronlunch: We're not Slackware, you can't downgrade.12:44
MrElendignot necesary12:44
neuronlunchjrib: my touchpad on my macbook is now recognised as a mouse12:44
neuronlunchtheadmin: cannot12:44
MrElendigRiii: you got a windows partion filling the entire drive?12:44
jribneuronlunch: what macbook version?12:44
MrElendigerr most of it anyway12:44
neuronlunch8,1 new one12:44
neuronlunchbut same as Early 201112:44
RiiiYes, that is how they set things up. i can take a screenshot so you can see what it looks like12:45
jribneuronlunch: have you found relevant bug on launchpad?12:45
neuronlunchI have posted a bug report12:45
MrElendigRiii: shrink one and delete another windows partion, make a new extended on the free space, make a /boot, / and /home as logical inside the extended, done :)12:45
MrElendigswap too if you want to s2d12:46
neuronlunchseems to affect many different models12:46
neuronlunchnot just apple12:46
neuronlunchjust need to find a workaround12:46
llutz_no need for /boot on simple dualboot12:46
hrolfllutz_: The link you referred me to says that boot into Ubuntu CD and then install and run Boot-Repair disk. Can I install programs in the Live CD?12:46
MrElendigllutz_: can be handy, eg if he wants lvm2, crypto or similar later12:46
llutz_hrolf: yes12:46
dr_willishrolf:  they install to ram. so yes12:47
MrElendigonly takes up 100mb max anyway, and as logical there isn't a problem with max number of partions either12:47
neuronlunchjrib: any ideas?12:47
jribneuronlunch: no12:47
neuronlunchvery sad :(, thanks anyways12:48
hrolfllutz_, dr_willis: And installing Boot-Repair from a Live CD will require Internet, right?12:48
VVhello g33ks,anyone knw any best vpn providers?12:49
jrib!ot | VV12:49
ubottuVV: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:49
theadminhrolf: Yes, however there's an alternate way which won't require a connection.12:50
hrolftheadmin: What is it?12:50
theadminhrolf: The good old grub-install method...12:50
hrolftheadmin: grub-install is available in the Live CD?12:50
theadminhrolf: I beleive we had a wiki article on that, I forgot the place and factoid, though12:50
RiiiLooks like this HP_Tools partition is a good candidate for deletion12:50
theadminhrolf: Yes, it should be12:51
jasonmsphey all.  Anyone know how I could control the music playing on my ubuntu machine from a mac laptop?12:51
hrolftheadmin: Alrighty12:51
dr_willishrolf:  ive seen remasterd ubuntu cd;s with it allready installed.12:52
th0rjasonmsp: x-forwarding?12:53
AdamantusI did sudo nautilus and got "Could not register the application: Error connecting: Connection refused"12:54
buharinE: /var/cache/apt/archives/fglrx_2%3a8.881-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb: podproces nowy skrypt pre-installation12:54
buharinwhat to do?12:54
dr_willisjasonmsp:  vlc and other apps often have web-front ends also. then theres good old ssh.12:54
theadminbuharin: Do "gksu nautilus" instead.12:54
theadminoops12:54
theadminAdamantus: ^12:54
theadminbuharin: Ignore that.12:54
Sidewinder1gksudo for guis...12:54
llutz_buharin: repeat in english or use #ubuntu-pl12:55
Dice-Manhello12:55
caesarhi12:55
buharinE: /var/cache/apt/archives/fglrx_2%3a8.881-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb: podproces new script pre-installation12:55
Dice-Manis there a way to know the name of my audio devices?12:55
buharinapt-get -f installl not working12:55
th0rDice-Man: lspci or lshw12:56
jasonmspth0r: thanks12:56
buharinit looks like all broken : (12:56
jasonmspdr_willis: thanks12:56
caesarmy xchat requests sasl to connect.. i got the files just can't find the directory to put them into12:56
caesarthe xchat directory12:56
Dice-Manth0r: well i'm asking the name like /dev/stuff12:57
dr_willis!find sasl12:57
ubottuFound: cyrus-sasl2-dbg, cyrus-sasl2-doc, cyrus-sasl2-heimdal-dbg, cyrus-sasl2-mit-dbg, libauthen-sasl-perl, libsasl2-2, libsasl2-dev, libsasl2-modules, libsasl2-modules-gssapi-heimdal, libsasl2-modules-gssapi-mit (and 15 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=sasl&searchon=names&suite=oneiric&section=all12:57
Dice-Manth0r: it's because teamspeak can't access to them12:57
llutz_caesar: ~/.xchat212:57
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theadminllutz_: Wouldn't really be a place to put libraries into12:57
dr_willisshouldent you be installing the libsasl2 stuff from teh repos?12:57
Guest2201929Hi? all12:58
caesari got it from the freenode site12:58
caesarit says paste them into the xchat directory12:58
oCean!rootirc > Guest6794512:58
ubottuGuest67945, please see my private message12:58
llutz_caesar: ~/.xchat212:58
llutz_theadmin: those aren't libs12:59
caesaryes12:59
dr_willisthose are some support scripts?12:59
theadminllutz_: Oh, okay.12:59
nio707hello all12:59
nio707i am trying to install ubuntu on my laptop but the live session is asking for the username and the password i tried everypossibility please tell me the default username and the password13:00
jribnio707: checksum your cd.13:00
nio707how to do that13:01
JLuchello all13:01
nio707JLuc how to checksum my cd13:01
jribnio707: there used to be an option at the beginning to "check cd for defects".  If that no longer exists, see ubottu13:01
JLuci dunno im quite a newbe to linux !13:01
jrib!verify | nio70713:01
ubottunio707: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows13:01
caesarwhat's the terminal download code13:01
caesarfor a link13:01
llutz_wget caesar13:01
nio707JLuc yes the option comes when i press tab13:02
JLucPLz, I have a ubuntu 11.04 working badly, and cannot use the proposed upgrade option. However I have a CDROM that would enable to install Oneiric 11.10. Is there a way to upgrade through the CD ?13:03
JLucor i have to delete the partition and install from scratch ?13:03
nio707JLuc: why do you need to checksum the cd when only thing i need is the username and the password. Is there is an possibility that the ubuntu is importing the username and the password from my xp which is installed on that13:03
JLucnio707 i think its not me you should be talking to13:04
JLuceither mistake or wicked brain13:04
theadminnio707: The default username is "ubuntu", the default password is not set.13:04
sudiptahow to install ns2 in ubuntu 11.10?the one the repo does not seem to work13:04
theadminnio707: However, if the CD asks you for a password, it's likely damaged -- no good. This is why you haz to checksum.13:04
Sidewinder1nio707, You're trying to ask jrib for help. :-)13:04
JLucjrib is not jluc13:05
jribnio707: because you should not need username or password.13:05
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nio707theadmin: can i change the default grub entry for the live session to boot as a single user13:05
sudiptahow to install ns2 in ubuntu 11.10?the one the repo does not seem to work13:05
theadminnio707: That'd be "single" I beleive. But you don't need that...13:06
perlmonkeyhi, I have just installed Ubuntu 11.8 and have a couple of questions... I don't seem to be able to reverse my mouse buttons... if I select left handed under Mouse options it doesn't switch the buttons over it like it used to.  Perhaps I need to logout/in or restart?   Secondly, although I have installed my nvidia proprietory driver, I can't see how to access the nvidia control panel that lets you adjust the settings.13:07
dr_willisnio707:  eveyr time ive seen the live cd ask for a user/pass - its been due to a badly burnt live cd or bad iso file.13:07
dr_willisbbl.13:07
JLucPLz, I have a ubuntu 11.04 working badly, and cannot use the proposed upgrade option. However I have a CDROM that would enable to install Oneiric 11.10. Is there a way to upgrade through the CD or i have to delete the partition and install 11.10 from scratch ?13:08
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theadminJLuc: You can only upgrade using an alternate CD.13:08
perlmonkeysorry I meant Ubuntu 11.1013:08
theadminperlmonkey: As for the nvidia driver, first run "sudo nvidia-xconfig", after that reboot, you should be able to access the center through the settings thing13:09
perlmonkeyok I have found my nvidia settings13:09
Sidewinder1nio707, Since it appears that you've got a 'bad' CD, you may wish to start over; this site is invaluable and contains step by step instructions: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index13:09
AfflictoOk I've been googling for a while - to no avail. Nobody knows how I can fix this -> running 11.10 and have installed Gnome3 but it's all glitchy white white text and it lags and buttons appear wierd etc. (only the top menu) the rest is fine. it lags whenever I hit Super key. (However, whenever there is a notification shown, it doesn't lag... for some strange reason). - Please help! thanks13:10
perlmonkeytheadmin thanks, any idea about why the mouse buttons won't reverse? you reckon I might need to logout or reboot?13:10
theadminperlmonkey: probably13:10
perlmonkeyok thanks13:10
sudiptahow to install ns2 in ubuntu 11.10?the one the repo does not seem to work13:10
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* tolecnal envies those that get nvidia to work with 11.04 and 11.1013:12
Sidewinder1tolecnal, How 'bout 10.04?13:14
tolecnalSidewinder1: works like a charm13:14
Sidewinder1Here too.13:14
Sidewinder1:D13:14
tolecnalwith 11.04 and 11.10 I just get kernel oops as xorg starts up.. the nvidia kernel mode shits itself13:14
tolecnals/mode/module/13:15
Sidewinder1!language :-)13:15
HoppipollaAnyone can help me to get Flash Player X64 11 properly working on Oneiric X64  (P.S. ATI Mobility Radeon 5730 HD), getting flash player lag, sound is slower than video :)13:17
Sir_problem with dial-up connection13:18
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caesarcan someone running 11.10 with latests updates test something for me?13:21
Sidewinder1!modem > Sir_13:21
ubottuSir_, please see my private message13:21
no_gravityHello from Germany! I want to see the google results like people in other countries see them. So I played around with free proxies. I noticed, that when I put in a proxy in Chromes settings, its installed system wide! Even when I do click "Use system wide". So all my data goes through this shady proxy all of a sudden. Is there a way to use a proxy for just one application?13:21
perlmonkeywhats with LibreOffice in 11.10, is it a rebrand of OpenOffice or a different software?13:21
caesarhttp://www.dafont.com/monarchbats.font // can someone try installing this font.. tell me if you have success or not13:22
brontosaurusrexperlmonkey, a fork13:22
Sir_Sidewinder1 yes modem: u.s.robotics 56k Faxmodem Com13:23
hrolfHow can I check in 11.10 which type of CD/DVD I have. Need to know if I can burn DVDs (silly me, I'm new to Linux)13:23
llutz_hrolf: wodim -prcap13:24
Sidewinder1Hoppipolla, I can't really help with 11.10 (10.04 here), sorry, however, from your previous discussion, it might be an Ati Radeon driver issue as Ati's developers do not support *nix as well as Nvidia.13:24
perlmonkeyif I want my system to auto mount my nfs partition, I assume I need an entry in /etc/fstab? should it look like this: 192.168.1.101:/home/user /home/user nfs 0 0 ?13:24
HoppipollaSidewinder1: But GLX gears works perfectly :)13:25
Sidewinder1Sir_, Have you thoroughly read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto ?13:25
caesarhttp://www.dafont.com/monarchbats.font // can someone try installing this font.. tell me if you have success or not13:25
hrolfllutz_: Thanks.13:26
Sidewinder1Hoppipolla, Understood; 'twas just a suggestion; is your problem exclusively with Flash applications?13:26
HoppipollaSidewinder1: Seems so, exclusively with flash games. Like HaxBall, or AngryBirds online13:27
llutz_perlmonkey: basically yes, you may want to add some options. (man 5 nfs)13:27
perlmonkeyllutz_ thanks I will read13:27
AfflictoHello everyone, back again. I followed some guide on the net and did some sudo commands, reinstalled gnome 3 and added some theme stuff or something. Now it looks like old ubuntu from a few months ago. it feels like gnome 2 maybe? - what am I doing wrong? I want gnome 3 it was so intuitive with the super button opening that window with all applications etc. - Please help!13:28
Sidewinder1hrolf, Did you have a look at the link that I gave you, a while ago? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index13:28
Sidewinder1hrolf, It should answer just about any questions that you may have..13:29
llutz_Afflicto: looks liek gnome2? isn't that excatly what the majority of 11.10-users want? scnr )13:29
Afflictollutz I dno... I want gnome 3 it was epic. I love the thing that opens when u push the super button.13:30
rnsI have 8 gigs of RAM - do I need the 64-bit version of Ubuntu to take advantage of all 8 gigs?13:30
llutz_rns: yes13:30
rnsllutz, are there any known problems or hassles with the 64-bit version vs the 32-bit version?13:31
llutz_rns: afaik no13:31
mang0How can I get rid of this: http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/dqmuheid/Selection_004.png see the little triangle under the Ubuntu logo? it's so irratating....13:31
caesarcan someone try installing this font.. tell me if you have success or not \/ http://www.dafont.com/monarchbats.font13:33
jribcaesar: ask your actual question13:33
caesarwont install for me13:33
caesarinstalled fine on 11.0413:34
jribcaesar: how are you trying?13:34
caesardouble click on and then click install13:34
caesarttf13:34
jribcaesar: is it in your ~/.fonts/ ?13:34
||arifaXcaesar: it's shareware. I have no money, sorry13:34
caesarit's free for personal use13:34
caesarjrib: it's says install failed13:35
jribcaesar: is it in your ~/.fonts/ ?13:35
* wh1zz0 Hi guys, I have a static IP but I do not have a router, can I still host my website on my computer?13:35
caesarhow do i navigate to that directory13:35
caesarjrib:13:35
jribwh1zz0: as long as your isp says it's ok, sure13:35
jribcaesar: /home/YOUR_USERNAME/.fonts13:35
dr_willisctrl-h in nautilus to show hidden dirs13:35
dr_willisor use the command line. :)13:36
Afflictohow can I see if I'm using gnome 2 or 3?13:36
wh1zz0jrib: Yes, it's allowed, but they do not allow access to router.. Is is still possible for me to do this without having to do any port forwarding?13:36
dr_willisAfflicto:  if you are using 11.10 then you are using gnome313:36
jribwh1zz0: yes13:36
brontosaurusrexcaesar, works here13:36
dr_willisAfflicto:  befor that it was gnome213:36
caesarbrontosaurusrex: what distro you using?13:36
brontosaurusrexnatty13:37
Afflictodr_willis ok well the epic window management and application launcher that opens when I pressed the Super button is gone now. and it looks like it did a few months ago on 10.4 or something.13:37
wh1zz0jrib: Please how can I go about this? I'd appreciate if you recommend a good tutorial as all the ones I have found so far have to do with port forwarding e.t.c13:37
dr_willisAfflicto:  what ubuntu did you install?13:37
llutz_wh1zz0: if you have no router, you don't need any portforwarding13:37
jribwh1zz0: you don't have to do anything special.  You just omit the port-forwarding stuff.  i.e. you install apache2 and then you are done.13:38
Afflictodr_willis I don't remember. it was an install I had on my hard drive from a few weeks ago. I upgraded to 11.1013:38
brontosaurusrexcaesar, showing up in Abiword, what app are you after?13:38
caesarGIMP13:38
dr_willisAfflicto:  if you upgraded to 11.10  then...... you are using 11.1013:38
brontosaurusrexcaesar, let me try13:38
caesarit's in .font13:38
caesarjrib:13:38
caesarjust says install failed13:38
caesarlet me try to open it in GIMP13:38
Afflictodr_will k. so I'm using gnome 3?.. if so, how do I enable that super-button-goes-awesomeness function?13:39
wh1zz0jrib: llutz_: I have apache2 already installed but that only creates localhost.13:39
dr_willisif  the font is allready installed.. and you try to reinstall it.. it may be saying failed.13:39
hotmedalWhile upgrading to 11.10 ubuntu crashed and I ran apt-get dist-upgrade from a recovery xterm. Now when I boot, it gets stuck at the boot screen saying it will boot without network config (it has waited 60 secs). But it doesn't. Instead I do ctrl+alt+F1 to switch to a terminal13:39
dr_willisAfflicto:  if it crashed, try running 'unity --replace' in a terminal, or via alt-f213:39
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llutz_wh1zz0: change the config to make it listen on all ifaces13:39
wh1zz0jrib: llutz_: When someone goes to my static IP address, they say they do not see my website13:39
hotmedalhow do I get it to work?13:39
||arifaXcaesar: saved the zip to /tmp. unzipped it manually on the command line. klicked the .TTF in konqueror. selected install - no errors -worked!13:39
wh1zz0llutz_: How do I achieve this ?13:40
brontosaurusrexcaesar, shows up in gimp as well13:40
caesaryea i noticed13:40
llutz_wh1zz0: edit your apache-config, ask in #httpd for help13:40
jribwh1zz0: then either your isp blocks it or you have enabled firewall (by default you will not have firewall rules blocking apache)13:40
Afflictodr_willis didn't change anything.. except I don't have any window toolbars now o.O13:40
caesardidnt think to check.. figured if it said install failed it just wouldnt be there13:40
caesar||arifaX: what disto you using?13:41
cellardoorWhat is the password for the LiveCD root account?13:41
llutz_wh1zz0: "sudo lsof -i :80"13:41
jribcellardoor: why?13:41
||arifaXcaesar: KUbuntu 10.04.3 LTS13:41
hotmedalWhile upgrading to 11.10 ubuntu crashed and I ran apt-get dist-upgrade from a recovery xterm. Now when I boot, it gets stuck at the boot screen saying it will boot without network config (it has waited 60 secs). But it doesn't. Instead I do ctrl+alt+F1 to switch to a terminal. Also, mv /var/run/* /run/ fails.13:42
cellardoorjrib, I am writing a tutorial that may require people to boot into the ubuntu live cd, but they need to be root.13:42
jrib!root | cellardoor13:42
ubottucellardoor: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo13:42
cellardoorAhh13:42
dr_willisAfflicto:  the 2 main commands would be 'unity --replace' and 'compiz --replace'13:42
caesari installed in 11.04 with no issues.. 11.10 says 'install failed'13:42
dr_willisAfflicto:  depending on what crashed.13:42
caesarweird13:42
ikoniacellardoor: if you're writing a tutorial, it's best to understand the basics of what you're doing13:43
ravenhow to start a vnc server during boot when no user is logged in?13:43
wh1zz0jrib: llutz_: Hummm.. Actually, I haven't touched any firewall setting. And here's the result of sudo lsof -i :80 http://paste.ubuntu.com/723276/13:43
|Long|my firefox keep crashing on 11.10, can someone plz help?13:43
cellardoorikonia, it's for rooting the DesireHD, I did it through my installation of Ubuntu, but the developer says it can be done in the LiveCD too.13:43
dr_willisraven:  one way.. install vnc server, start it from /etc/rc.local13:43
ravendr_willis, which vnc server?13:43
dr_williscellardoor:  sudo -i, gets you a root shell if you need one.13:44
mang0How can I get rid of this: http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/dqmuheid/Selection_004.png see the little triangle under the Ubuntu logo? it's so irratating....13:44
dr_willisraven:  any you like. theres like 5 of them i recall.13:44
cellardoordr_willis, perfect, thanks!13:44
ravenok13:44
ikoniacellardoor again....if you're writiting a tutorial it's important to understand the basics of what you are doing,13:44
llutz_wh1zz0: its already bound to all ifaces. if people from WAN cannot reach it, check your firewall or your ISP might block it13:44
cellardoorikonia, I do, and dr_willis just solved my problem.13:44
dr_williscellardoor:  thats the same on a normal ubuntu install...13:44
ikoniacellardoor: sorry, it's clear you don't.13:44
hotmedalWhile upgrading to 11.10 ubuntu crashed and I ran apt-get dist-upgrade from a recovery xterm. Now when I boot, it gets stuck at the boot screen saying it will boot without network config (it has waited 60 secs). But it doesn't. Instead I do ctrl+alt+F1 to switch to a terminal. Also, mv /var/run/* /run/ fails.13:45
llutz_wh1zz0: sudo iptables -vL INPUT13:45
cellardoorikonia, tyvm http://android.appstorm.net/how-to/customization/alpharevx-at-last-you-can-root-the-wildfire/13:46
HoppipollaIs there anyone familiar with Flash Player Sound lag problem on Oneiric X64 ?13:46
wh1zz0llutz_: Okie I typed ifconfig and got this address 192.168.1.2 as my inet adr when I go there I see the default apache page saying it works.. But that IP looks very familiar, as I have seen this same IP address on other people's computers which makes me feel it's not a true IP.. When others visit it they don't see my site.. So not sure what's wrong here13:46
ikoniacellardoor: posting links doesn't mean anything. Again. If YOU are writing a tutorial it's important YOU understand the basics of what you are doing - it's clear you don't13:47
llutz_wh1zz0: its not your external ip13:47
cellardoorikonia, I am the author of that.13:47
wh1zz0llutz_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/723280/ the result for sudo iptables -vL INPUT13:47
ikoniacellardoor so?13:47
* cellardoor facepalms13:47
wh1zz0llutz_: Yeah, even when they visit my external IP, they don't see my website13:47
hotmedalikonia: who cares about a guy who writs tutorials he doesn't understand?13:48
hotmedalikonia: help me instead!13:48
ikoniacellardoor you're asking basic questions about the security model of the OS....that's not understanding what you are writing about13:48
llutz_wh1zz0: if you really don't have a router, your ISP NATs for you. if he refuses to setup portforwarding for you (and he won't do it) you cannot be reached from WAN13:48
ikoniahotmedal: it's important as there are too many nonsense tutorials that are written from a "works for me" perspecive13:49
cellardoorikonia, all I was asking is for one thing I haven't had to do before. Hardly an issue.13:49
hotmedalikonia: lol I know. But I was actually trying to draw attention to my problem13:49
ikoniahotmedal and I'm ignorng it13:50
hotmedal:(13:50
wh1zz0llutz_: Hmm I see.. I just did an nmap scan on my inet IP and got this... http://paste.ubuntu.com/723283/13:50
ghabitHello. I have installed and uninstalled wine. But 'open with notepad' are still in context menu. How to dele it?13:50
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hotmedalWhile upgrading to 11.10 ubuntu crashed and I ran apt-get dist-upgrade from a recovery xterm. Now when I boot, it gets stuck at the boot screen saying it will boot without network config (it has waited 60 secs). But it doesn't. Instead I do ctrl+alt+F1 to switch to a terminal. Also, mv /var/run/* /run/ fails.13:51
llutz_wh1zz0: addresses from 192.168.* are not routed through the internet, you cannot be reached. its NOT your real external IP13:51
dr_willisghabit:  those are defined in the users setting files in their home dir. theres some .desktop files that add them to the menus13:51
hotmedalwh1zz0: go to whatismyip.com13:52
wh1zz0llutz_:  Yea.. very true..13:52
ghabitdr_willis, so I have to find something like notepad.desktop and just delete it, right?13:52
dr_willisghabit:  .local/share/applications  i think13:52
llutz_wh1zz0: so get a cheap webhosting somewhere and put your stuff there.13:52
wh1zz0llutz_: I know that's my inet.. and that the IP i see when I visit whatismyip is my real external13:52
dr_willisghabit:  yes. the .desktop file defines the menu entry13:52
hrolfWhat application should I use to burn DVDs/CDs in Ubuntu. The default Brasero has some negative reviews.13:55
lolzerwget -r -np -nH –cut-dirs=3 http://XXXXXX/XXXXX/XXXXX/13:55
lolzerwith this i get a 400 error13:55
wh1zz0llutz_: oops.. Hummm... Thanks.. And I really really wanted to host my stuff.. :((13:55
llutz_wh1zz0: change your ISÜ13:55
llutz_ISP13:55
lolzerim just a starter .. is there a link that explains this??13:55
llutz_lolzer: "man wget"13:55
wh1zz0llutz_: Yeah.. I think that'd be my next option13:55
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lolzerllutz,  but where will i get the reason for the 400 error i get ...13:57
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ghabitdr_willis, bless you!13:57
Sidewinder1lolzer, Aren't 404 errors when a site is unavailable?13:57
llutz_thats 40413:58
llutz_400 bad request13:58
Sidewinder1llutz, Thanx.13:58
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lolzerwget works in subfolder files ...13:58
lolzerwell i want to download the pictures in the server i hosted but i was banned .. and i want all my personal files back13:59
danielDoes anyone know anything about getting sound to work in Ubuntu 11?  I select the sound for my front speaker (Analog Output (LFE)) but it keeps going back to (Analog Headphones).13:59
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fxhplolzer: check out my python image grabber14:00
danielI was running Ubuntu an earlier Ubuntu and sound worked before I upgraded my hard drive and Ubuntu.14:00
fxhplolzer: http://russell.ballestrini.net/python-image-grabber-pig-py/14:00
danielAlso worked in Mint and PCLOS which are based on Ubuntu.14:01
dr_willisdaniel:  and it may work if you did a clean install...14:01
lolzerdaniel, analog stereo  Duplex is what i selected... i had that problem14:01
danielI did a clean install.14:01
dr_willisdaniel:  You said you upgraded your ubuntu :)14:01
danielI am running Ubuntu 11.1014:01
SinvalPinheirohi..  How to use Ubuntu 11.10 + proxy + autentic14:02
dr_willisso you did a clean install of 11.10, you did not upgrade from 11.04 to 11.1014:02
danielYes I took out my old HD and put in a new one, downloaded 11.10 and installed Ubuntu that way.  My old Ubuntu was 10,0414:02
aHardyXHey there! I updated my ubuntu 10.10 with kernel 3.1 but now it boot in verbose only. Plymouth does not show up but the resolution fo the screen is correct (1600x900). How do I get plymouth working again?14:02
xanguaaHardyX: use the kernel incluided on 10.10 repository ;)14:03
danielI shouldn't of said upgraded I guess.14:03
mang0How can I get rid of this: http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/dqmuheid/Selection_004.png see the little triangle under the Ubuntu logo? it's so irratating....14:03
aHardyXxangua: It was working with the same kernel earlier. but then I updated initramfs and now it doesn't work.14:04
ikoniaaHardyX: [rpbab;y becaise the plymouth files (theme) are not in the vanilla initrd14:04
ikoniaaHardyX: why are you using te 3.0 kernel?14:04
aHardyXikonia: thats becoz Belkin wifi drivers are not included in ver 2.x14:05
ikoniaaHardyX: I'm pretty sure they are, what device exactly14:05
Sidewinder1Speaking of irritating triangles in the panel, does anyone know when openprinting, org will be back? I know it's related to the kernel.org intrusion but that was months ago. Perhaps I need to reset something in my sources?14:06
SinvalPinheiroGnome-shell Rox - Unity is for gay14:06
aHardyXikonia: its an belkin fd110114:06
ikoniaSinvalPinheiro: tone that down now14:06
ikoniaSinvalPinheiro: no more homosexual comments please.14:06
bluenemom)14:07
jussibluenemo: 114:07
ikoniaaHardyX: that is in the 2.6 kernel14:08
aHardyXikonia: I have kernel 2.6.35 with 3.1 and it does not detect it14:08
stathishi14:08
ikoniaaHardyX it uses the F7D1101 module14:08
vincentkHello, not new to Linux / Ubuntu.  Have clean installed 11.10 after much effort on an Intel Atom D525 / NM10 motherboard based system.  This system installs and runs fine on Win7.  Had problems with Natty and Maverick to...installer crashing with graphical and alternative install.14:09
vincentkTo install Oneiric Ocelot, I disabled hyperthreading and execute bit disabled in BIOS.  Finally managed to get install done but14:09
vincentkX crashes and Mozilla crashes as well.  The motherboard is ATNM10T-I.14:09
aHardyXikonia: hmm......then why is it not working in 2.6.xx?14:10
ikoniaaHardyX: I don't know without looking into it14:10
danielOnly problem I have is sound and I cannot use the latest graphics drivers on here.14:11
Sidewinder1!sound > daniel14:11
ubottudaniel, please see my private message14:11
writtenis there an alternative webdav server for ubuntu? i don't like to use apache2, lighttpd just for providing webdav services14:11
danielEverytime I check the right setting and test the speakers it changes back to default settings and no sound14:12
ikoniawritten what's wrong with apache2 or lighttpd14:12
writtenit's overkill14:12
ikoniawritten lighthttpd is very light14:13
writtenbut please answer my question14:13
aHardyXikonia: ok to be precise.....does kernel 2.6.35-28 have the F7D1101 module?14:13
ikoniawritten look in the repos for webdav servers, you will not find something lighter than lighthttpd though14:14
ikoniaaHardyX yes14:14
brontosaurusrexwritten, nginx14:14
writtennginx has some limitations14:14
aHardyXikonia: now thats wierd.14:14
rosstaylori have recently updated my ubuntu to 11.10, how do I change the desktop to the classic look?14:14
danielWhen you log-in you choose Classic.14:14
Sidewinder1!nounity | rosstaylor14:15
ubotturosstaylor: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic14:15
rosstaylorsidewinder1: sudo apt-get instsall gnome-shell?14:15
rosstaylorsidewinder1: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell?14:15
danielI installed Gnome then rebooted choosing Classic.14:15
Sidewinder1rosstaylor, That looks correct.14:16
Sidewinder1rosstaylor, I prefer the package mgrs. (Synaptic, Software Center) to CLI.14:17
Sidewinder1rosstaylor, My typing stinks. ;-)14:17
rosstaylorsidewinder1: ok it's installing, i will reboot and log back in with the gnome shell, if i don't come back, thank you very much14:18
Sidewinder1:D14:18
xangua(08:18:30) rosstaylor: sidewinder1: ok it's installing, i will reboot  - this is not windows ;)14:18
writtenokay. i think i'll use pywebdav since i need python anyway for pyload14:19
danielI think I will go back to Ubuntu 10 or try 11.04.  Sound  just refuses to work.14:22
Sidewinder1daniel, All aspects of sound, video, etc. work flawlessly here; 10.04, :D14:23
danielThis computer has a front speaker that works in Windows and used to work in Ubuntu.14:23
danielYeah it was flawless here til I upgraded the HD and re-installed everything.14:24
Sidewinder1If it ain't broke don't fix it.. ;-)14:24
johnyB1does anybody know how to disable the displaying of who joined/left this channel in xchat?14:24
Sidewinder1But I know what you mean.14:24
Shadow_711.10.. ati.. fglrx... I get a real pretty blue loading screen... then a black one...14:25
xanguajohnyB1: on it's preferences i belive, I don't use xchat14:25
llutz_Sidewinder1: rightclk on the channel-tab14:25
danielI run nvidia buton this computer if I use the latest drivers in Win and Lin I get a black screen upon boot eventhough the PC is still working perfectly.14:26
Sidewinder1llutz, I beg your pardon.?14:26
Shadow_7And the usb keyboard becomes non-functional...  But the old style serial one still works...14:26
llutz_Sidewinder1: rightclk on the channel-tab -> settings14:27
DasEidaniel:tried :14:27
DasEi!nomodeset14:27
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter14:27
llutz_argh Sidewinder1 wrong nick, sry14:27
Beasthello14:27
llutz_johnyB1: rightclk on the channel-tab -> settings14:27
matlockso who else has been experiencing a problem with the graphics when you log out14:27
johnyB1llutz: thanks!14:27
DasEidaniel , which nvidia do you use ?14:28
Beasti originally installed 11.04 on one partition, then install 11.10 on another partition, now i deleted the 11.04 partition and now grub wont load. how do i repair or reinstall grub?14:28
matlockexample, I log out, or switch user, it goes to the login screen but there's no user profiles listed, and the background is broken up into many squares14:28
Shadow_7I've been rebooting so much... I thought the distro was winbuntu14:28
matlockwhat causes thius?14:28
DasEi!grub | Beast14:28
matlockit happens every day14:28
ubottuBeast: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)14:28
matlockalmost every time I log out14:29
DasEiBeast: first link14:29
danielnvidia geforce 8400GS PCIe the problem is this computer cause I used this card in nmy old dell before it died on my.14:29
Beastthanks14:29
danielme.14:29
Sidewinder1llutz, No prob. :D14:29
DasEiBeast: err second, grub2 oc14:29
matlockyee, i got an nvidia 9600GSM and cannot use nvidia drivers14:30
danielI am using and HP/Compaq SFF computer now til I get a new computer.14:30
matlockcause with jockey they don't report they're in use14:30
matlockand i can't use my dual monitor setuyp14:30
matlock*setup14:30
matlockso is that related to my login screen problem?14:30
matlocksure would be nice if someone in here would actually help one of these times I come to this room14:31
daniel,atlock try using the 173 version drivers not the current version drivers.14:31
danielmatlock14:31
matlocki've tried all versions14:31
matlocksame results14:31
danielAh.14:31
matlockjockey reports activated but not inuse14:31
matlockcan't setup dual monitors14:31
matlockso i'm forced to use the experimental driver14:31
danielI am only running one monitor right now.14:31
matlocktechnically so am i because the default monitor in my laptop had the inverter go out14:32
danielIt is hard to find the 4:3 screens these days.  I refuse to use widescreen ones.14:32
DasEidaniel, ah 173 already said, 32 or 64 bit ? and did you run an sudo nvidia-xconfig / restarted x after driver's install ?14:32
danielAh you're on a lappy.14:32
matlockyep asus m70vm-x114:32
coggy9Could anyone help me? I'm trying to install the proprietary drivers for my ATI card, it failed, and now Unity/Unity 2D won't come up at all.14:33
matlockhaven't had any problems with it since 8.1014:33
matlockbut starting with 11.04 it's like canonical decided to break everything14:33
danielThis is a 32bit system and yes DasEI14:33
danielIt installs the latest (Current) drivers for nvidia but upon restart it loads til the login screen and then monitor goes blank.  Same results in Windows XP.14:34
danielI suspect the problem is this computer.14:34
DasEidaniel, so either the 173 from repo or http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-260.19.36-driver.html should do it fine, that's non exotic hardware at all14:34
danielYes 173 works flawlessly DasEI14:35
DasEidaniel,hmm other issues , onboard vga set as primary ?14:35
DasEias same on win..14:35
matlocksee for me, i install either of the nvidia drivers, reboot (or restart x)  and i get the nvidia rom bootscreen, goes to login screen and I can't use fn f8 to swap over to my external monitor to configure things14:35
danielBIOS disabled the onboard video.14:35
danielRight now my problem is sound not video.14:36
matlockif my backlight weren't borked i'd be able to configure things14:36
danielIn order to get sound I need to go out and get speakers.14:36
matlockand how do i report this damn ui to the devs as being a big bug14:36
matlockcause that's all it is14:36
perlmonkeyI have just installed kdenlive under Ubuntu 11.10 and tried to start it, and got "Fatal Error - MLT's SDL module not found. Please check your MLT install" I have not been able to find out what this MLT is. Does anyone know?14:37
matlockhere's a protip canonical, pc's aren't smartphones, don't design them as ones.14:37
matlockso designing a ui that depends on a touchscreen is retarded14:37
Shadow_7nomodeset was NOT a solution... ati... fglrx... black screen...14:37
matlockthat's what the netbook remix is for14:37
matlocketc14:37
matlockYO IS ANYONE IN HERE HELPING PEOPLE OR IS THIS JUST A GIANT CIRCLEJERK??14:38
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matlock!NVIDIA14:38
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto14:38
matlocktoo bad that won't help14:38
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Shadow_7just a bot I think...14:38
moljac024omg14:39
matlockyea ubottu is a bot14:39
Shadow_7Have you tried the usuals... aticonfig --initial -f14:39
totohy14:39
SuprEngrQ/  anyone know of a GUI ap for encypting files on a 10.04 machine to send to U1 & decrypting files on an 11.10 machine? {same app in both repositories, therefore]14:39
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moljac024there are no screenshots for anything in software center and this issue is IMPOSSIBLE to google and get meaningful results14:39
zaoul1what is the latest kernel ubuntu is pushing?14:39
matlockall these questions but no 'pros' to answer14:40
moljac024zaoul1: /join #xubuntu14:40
Shadow_73.0.0.12-generic seems to be what my bootloader says..14:40
matlockit's like everyone knowledgable in ubuntu just took a vacation14:40
zaoul1moljac024: im not asking FOR the latest i am asking what IS the latest14:40
zaoul1matlock: its just another day in the neighborhood14:40
matlocknot really14:40
perlmonkeyI have just installed kdenlive under Ubuntu 11.10 and tried to start it, and got "Fatal Error - MLT's SDL module not found. Please check your MLT install" I have not been able to find out what this MLT is. Does anyone know?14:40
zaoul11544 people and on average 30 know wtf is going on14:40
matlocklast time i was here, there were like 20-30 people that actually knew what they were talking about14:41
xangua!info linux | zaoul114:41
ubottuzaoul1: linux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.0.12.14 (oneiric), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 all armel powerpc)14:41
matlockinstead of two people taht just used ubottu triggers14:41
Ibyssjam2011: In here you ask for support, not The offtopic channel...14:41
xangua!attitude | matlock14:41
ubottumatlock: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines14:41
zaoul1thank you14:42
matlockyou should really only pop that in when there's actually voulanteers helping people14:42
moljac024zaoul1: i'm sorry it was a misstype14:42
moljac024i meant to join xubuntu channel, didn't notice i pressed z TAB by mistake14:42
Shadow_7Is there anyway to set ubuntu to boot to console?  not X?14:42
jam2011I was installing ubuntu 11.10 (64 bit) on my desktop. At the end of the installation, I got the message that there was a error with the installation of the bootloader and I that I had to do it manually. Now I am stuck as ubuntu is not booting as there is no bootloader. I need help with manually installing the bootloader. I am ready to reinstall 11.10. I am online from my old laptop which I have alongside my desktop now.14:43
xangua!nox | Shadow_714:43
ubottuShadow_7: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode14:43
Sidewinder1jam2011, Did you Md5sum the ISO, prior to burning?14:44
Shadow_7jam2011: you can chroot into the existing install and rerun grub that way...14:44
matlockheh14:44
matlocki really don't think you need to chroot14:45
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jam2011Shadow_7 thanks for responding. How can I chroot into the existing install.. can you please explain a bit further14:45
Shadow_7with extra parms... In my case... multiple HDDs and one is an old IDE...  So I had to put grub on every MBR to solve it..14:45
Shadow_7there's a webpage with the steps... like 4x or 5x steps...14:45
Shadow_7mostly mount --bind... then chroot /path14:45
matlockjam2011, if you boot from your live cd, you can sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair14:45
matlockthen sudo apt-get update14:45
Veedeehey guys14:45
matlockthen sudo apt-get install boot-repair-ubuntu14:45
BeastDasEi, Thanks so much, i am back up and running. love it.14:46
matlockthen run that and it'll fix things up14:46
DasEi!yay|Beast14:46
Veedeei have a little problem with my network-manager14:46
ubottuBeast: Glad you made it! :-)14:46
Shadow_7and run grub something or other with the --root option specified for the intended disk(s).14:46
matlockjam2011, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/boot-repair-fix-ubuntu-boot-issues.html   << one option14:46
Veedeeit keeps shuttind down every 30 seconds or so14:46
Beastthis chat forums kick add14:46
Beastass*14:46
matlockhttp://www.noobslab.com/2011/10/install-grub2-from-live-cdusb-after.html << the chroot method14:47
DasEi!grub | jam201114:47
Veedeeso i have to run  "sudo service network-manager restart" every 30 seconds so i can reconnect14:47
ubottujam2011: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)14:47
DasEisecond link14:47
Shadow_710.10 to 11.04 messed up grub... 11.04 to 11.10 didn't...14:47
matlock11.xx messed up everything im14:48
matlock*imo14:48
KM0201mateu: only if you stuck w/ Unity.14:48
KM0201oops.. matlock ^14:48
matlockyea, true14:48
matlockstill though there's problems deeper than unity14:48
Shadow_7classic looks is where it's at... but 11.10 seems to have removed the menus to select that.14:49
matlockexample: jockey14:49
Toph2how do you use a classic ubuntu desktop in 11.10?14:49
matlockToph2, install ubuntu-studio14:49
KM0201matlock: if you branch out beyond "ubuntu" to either xubuntu or lubuntu, you'l probably find 11.10 is quite solid14:49
Sidewinder1!nounity | Toph14:49
ubottuToph: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic14:49
matlockexcept i can't install nvidia drivers KM020114:49
Toph2matlock,,, thanks14:49
Shadow_7so in my haste to try out xfce4... My graphics driver suckage...14:49
KM0201matlock: which nvidia device? mine installed just fine14:49
matlockKM0201, and there's problems with logging out in14:49
matlockKM0201, nvidia 9600gsm14:49
KM0201hmm, did you use the driver from nvidia, or the one in the additional driver manager?14:50
matlockjockey reports "activated but not in use"14:50
matlockboth14:50
matlockactually, all three14:50
matlocktrust me, this has been happening since 11.0414:50
matlockthere's a bug report on it that has yet to be resolved14:50
felonexcuss me. i was wondering the easiest way to update my bios, which is HP through ubuntu.14:50
matlockfelon, install windows, use the windows bios update utility14:51
KM0201matlock: did you try sudo nvidia-xconfig ?14:51
matlockthat doesn't fix the issue that the driver isn't in use14:51
laicoolno14:51
matlockand yes, i know how to configure my nvidia settings14:52
laicoolcan you speak Chinese?14:52
KM0201matlock: i didn't suggest nvidia-settings was the issue.14:52
tziOmHow do I check what version of a package apt-get will eventually install?14:52
laicoolmy English is very poor14:52
xangua!cn | laicool14:52
ubottulaicool: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw14:52
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matlockKM0201, bottom line is i gotta wait till 12.04 for this problem to be fixed14:53
DasEitziOm: apt-cache show gedit, f.i.14:53
matlockhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-common/+bug/77178814:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 771788 in nvidia-common (Ubuntu) "nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk" [Medium,Fix released]14:53
felonwell. im having problems. i have to update the bios cause i had a blue screen in vista, well ever since the bluescreen my sata drives fail detection on boot up. dvdrom and HD's. so i installed ubuntu on a external HD thro my sony 8 gig usb. went out and also bought a sata host controler thinking my sata is screwd. my drive is good i just think the bios are screwd14:54
matlock>vista14:54
felonnow i have to flash them some how14:54
tziOmhmm..14:55
Muiterzmorning!14:55
MuiterzI'm new here14:55
matlockfelon, sounds to me like vista fried something14:55
Muiterzand new into Ubuntu, just started 3 weeks14:55
felonit most certainly did14:55
felonit fucked everything up14:55
joshuapMy mouse keeps not working. Can someone tell me what's up with that?14:55
KM0201matlock: that says a fix has been released... maybe w/ any luck, it will get uploaded at some point.14:55
matlockif your sata drives aren't recognized by the bios, you're pretty much screwed and I'm guessing a bios update isn't going to fix it14:55
matlockKM0201, the fix is to upgrade to 12.0414:56
matlockplease read things14:56
MuiterzI'm using 11.10, I'm using a quad boot , win xp/win  7/ubuntu 11.10/snow leopard14:56
KM0201lol, whatever, ok14:56
DasEimatlock: locked off after driver's install and from tty (no x running)did sudo nvidia-xconfig ? see here : http://askubuntu.com/questions/37590/nvidia-drivers-not-working-after-upgrade-why-can-i-only-see-terminal14:56
Sidewinder1felon, Does Live CD (ubuntu) run? I would save upgrading firmware in BIOS as a last resort.14:56
Muiterzhow to access my snow leopard partition?14:56
DasEilogged off*14:56
Muiterzi can only read14:56
felonthe pci e host controller i bought wrks and picks the dvdrom and HD up14:56
Muiterzi've installed hfsplus14:56
felonbut it wont run a dvd on boot14:56
felontried to start vista even14:57
felonloads windows then error14:57
feloni tried reseating the sata drives14:57
felonswitching cables14:57
feloncleared cmos14:57
feloneverything14:57
FloodBot1felon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:57
ksumfelon:what do you get when you go into bios. Does it show drives14:58
matlockfelon, have you tried placing the sata drives in another pc?14:58
matlockor have you tried placing other drives into this pc?14:58
felonthx to ubuntu being able to run on external saved me cause then i was able to get everything off the internal hp drive14:58
DasEiMuiterz: as far as I remember that lacks as linux can't cope with the way mac sets attributes14:58
matlockalso, try removing ALL power14:58
felonno i dont have another pc using sata14:58
Muiterzbut i should be possible14:58
matlocki.e. unplug from wall, remove cmos battery, press the power button, let it sit a minute, then replace the battery and replug it in14:59
matlockand try that way14:59
Muiterzhttp://dev-logger.blogspot.com/2010/07/write-access-to-hfs-drive-from-ubuntu.html14:59
matlocksometimes latent power issues can do conky things14:59
DasEiMuiterz: have an extra partition both can read ?!14:59
D_RussOk so now tht i have 2 unallocated partitions how to i add them to my 11.10 install to increase its space?14:59
Muiterzmy second hdd has 2 mac os x partitions14:59
D_Russmuiterz, is that on a mac?14:59
DasEiMuiterz: no expert on that, hfsplus installed ?15:00
Muiterzno15:00
Muiterzyes15:00
Muiterzno hackintosh15:00
Muiterzso pavillion windows based pc15:00
D_Russwhere can i find hackintosh15:00
Muiterzwas workin15:00
Muiterzg15:00
Muiterzbut stupid me updated to 10.6.815:00
Muiterzand now i have to change the kernel from mac os15:00
Muiterzor i have to use an virtual machine15:01
matlockfelon, i just diagnosed a dell with an issue regarding windows and chkdsk and it not fully checking the disk upon boot, i instructed the user to remove all sources of power and let it sit for a minute, problem resolved itself, so try what i suggested above, by removing all power, including the cmos battery and letting it sit for a minute, then replacing the battery and power plug and trying again15:01
Muiterzbut i would like to have write access15:01
D_RussOk so now tht i have 2 unallocated partitions how to i add them to my 11.10 install to increase its space?15:01
Muiterzhackintosh is a term for a pc which is changed to a mac :P15:01
matlockfelon that happens a lot with me and usb actually, I gotta remove my power sources and let it sit, replug and restart and it works.15:01
DasEiMuiterz: http://raamdev.com/mounting-hfs-with-write-access-in-debian looks promising, and also you need ownership on mountdir then15:02
Sidewinder1!enter > Muiterz15:02
ubottuMuiterz, please see my private message15:02
Muiterzsorry15:02
Muiterz1 moment15:02
matlockso, has anyone else been experiencing a problem when they log out or switch users??  my login screen fails to display the user list and the background is all broken up into one inch squares15:03
matlocki'm suspecting it's because i'm using the experimental video driver but I cannot confirm because i am unable to install the nvidia drivers15:03
DasEiMuiterz: reading that site, that's missing if you haven't had the mountdir under restricted useraccount/homefolder15:03
shubbari m getting dbus error and startup hang ups, this bug specificly https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/811441 ,  will they fix it in an update or do i have to do it manually?15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 858122 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Precise) "duplicate for #811441 incomplete migration to /run (shutdown script order has been demolished)" [High,Triaged]15:04
matlockor if anyone knows how I can take a screenshot of my login screen so i can show people15:04
GupHi.  Just created a new "desktop user" user on my system, but whey they play videos in totem they have no video, just black but the audio is playing.  Do I need to grant them video permissions or something?  Videos play fine when logged in as me.15:04
DasEiGup: adduser WhateverNewHere video15:05
joshuapMy mouse keeps not working. Can someone tell me what's up with that?15:05
DasEiGup: sudo adduser WhateverNewHere video15:05
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joshuapI'm running Ubuntu 11.10 i386 Linux and my mouse will work after sartup, but when I start a program, it goes out and I can't move the mouse.15:06
Shadow_7Is it a usb mouse?15:06
joshuapNo.15:06
joshuapIt' a laptop trackpad mouse.15:06
GupDasEi, "The user `john' is already a member of `video'."15:06
matlockok imma try and take a screenshot of my issue, i'll be back15:07
Shadow_7any indicators in /var/log/dmesg?  or just dmesg on cli15:07
MochaLatteI'm trying to reinstall 11.04 over my 11.10 setup. I've got a pen drive with 11.04. However, when I boot from this pen drive, it takes me to the GRUB I typically see when I boot normally (albeit with a different color). I do not know where to go from there... Any suggestions?15:07
joshuapShould I check?15:07
Shadow_7it won't solve anything... but it might let you know where to look...15:07
DasEiGup: login as the new user and try from terminal, maybe get a hint from there (like vlc blaah.mp4)15:08
mang0Is there a way to get my screenlets to be viewed on all workspaces? ATM they're just on #1, not #2, #3, or #4... thanks.15:08
Sidewinder1MochaLatte, Did you adjust your boot-order in BIOS to boot USB, first?15:08
GupDasEi, totem from term give no output,  havent tried vlc yet, will do now15:08
tziOmhow do I force an installed application to install again?15:09
tziOmI do not want to remove..15:09
rafinewly installed ubuntu 11.10. How do I switch to classic mode?15:09
DasEitziOm: sudo apt-get install --reinstall15:09
Shadow_7tziOm: sudo apt-get -reinstall install <app>15:09
Sidewinder1!nounity | rafi15:09
ubotturafi: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic15:09
tziOmgreat, thanks15:09
MochaLatteNot yet, I've been hitting F11 on startup to go to the boot menu, then selecting the USB drive. I assume this would accomplish the same end?15:10
Shadow_7or to remove it... my way... sudo dpkg --purge --force-all <app>15:10
rafiSidewinder1, how to install gnome shell?15:10
DasEitziOm: but if you want config deleted, need to purge it, either apt (dry-run before to see what else (might)get lost) or manually purge config15:10
Sidewinder1MochaLatte, It's worth a try.15:10
DasEi!nounity | rafi15:10
ubotturafi: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic15:10
ShinobyHello, I've bought a Mac Book Pro (2011 edition, not the brand new one) I'm considering using REFIT to install a triple boot, does any of you have tried this ? I read many stuff about problem around that and found no recent tutorial starting with OSX Lion and a recent macbook15:11
Sidewinder1rafi, Please see the link above, that ubottu gave you ^.15:11
nb-benhi :P how do I mount a UFS filesystem?15:11
nb-ben-t ufs doesn't seem to cut it15:11
matlockwats wrong with this command?15:11
matlocksudo sh -c 'sleep 5s; xwd -display :0 -root | convert - screenshot.png15:11
matlockbesides the missing closing '15:11
nb-benI understand that I need to us -o ufstype=44ufs for freebsd, but it still doesn't work15:12
DasEi!iso | nb-ben15:12
ubottunb-ben: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.15:12
sykeshi guyz, is there a way to extend vlc control panel in fulscreen mode?15:12
zykotick9DasEi, UFS = Unix File System15:13
DasEizykotick9: yes, got it, utf-miss15:13
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eossWhy is it when you block incoming connections for a specific port, but allow outgoing connections, a connection can still be established as incoming packets for that port still need to happen15:14
Shadow_7matlock: is your X configured for that?  you have that .Xauth issue if you're doing what I think you're doing...15:14
DasEinb-ben: idk then , mount tells -t ufs as you stated15:14
gaurav_tabletempathy is giving me segmentation error i have reinstalled my ubuntu 3 times for that ...how i fix it15:15
DasEinb-ben: you tried as root ?15:15
gaurav_tabletusing ubuntu 11.1015:15
MochaLatteYeah no luck. I guess I'll try burning a CD15:15
salvatorehi there15:17
salvatorei have a question anybody there?15:17
gaurav_tabletempathy is giving me segmentation error i have reinstalled my ubuntu 3 times for that ...how i fix it i am using ubuntu `11.1015:17
salvatorei installed ubuntu 10.04 lts on my computer15:18
g0rs!anybody | salvatore15:18
ubottusalvatore: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.15:18
matlockcan someone tell me what i'm doing wrong??   http://askubuntu.com/questions/43458/how-can-i-take-a-screenshot-of-the-login-screen15:18
matlocki'm trying to take a screenshot of the login screen15:18
tomodachigaurav_tablet: I dont have any real solution for you. But maybe if the problem is in empathy instead of reinstalling ubuntu use another chat client? like pidgin? at least untill the problem is solved15:18
salvatorewhen my computer shut down it makes a sound15:18
matlockbut i keep getting "no protocol specified" and "xwd unable to open display :0'15:19
salvatorelike when you turn off hi-fi with high volumes....15:19
salvatoredoes it makes sense?15:19
Sidewinder1MochaLatte, Remember to Md5sum the ISO, prior to burning at the slowest speed possible.15:19
matlockcan someone help me take a screenshot of my login screen?15:20
gaurav_tablettomodachi, same problem is arising in bansee also15:20
MochaLatteWill do, thanks15:20
salvatoredoes anybody knows why my ubuntu machine makes this rumor when i shut it down?15:20
Shinobysalvatore: what kind of rumor ?15:21
Shadow_7it's an ubuntu feature... You can turn it off... some wikia somewhere with the details..  but it's the default behavior15:21
salvatorethe same that you have if turn off an hifi with high volume15:21
RDanyone around for a bit of help, decided to update my ubuntu and now it looks like it turned my desktop into the size of a billboard, i can;t see a thing15:22
Sidewinder1matlock, In my 10.04 Take a Screenshot is found at:  Applications--->Accessories--->Take a Screenshot; sorry, may not help much if you're running a diff. ver.15:22
GupDasEi, no real clue there, aprat from mplayer works, but same issue in vlc as totem15:22
Shadow_7studio monitors will do that regardless... computer independent.15:22
DasEiGup: might also lock dmesg/syslog or even strace it, so far no idea here, too15:23
salvatorethe same that you have if turn off an aoudio booster with high volume15:23
DasEilook*15:23
matlockcan someone instruct me on how to take a screenshot of the login screen?15:24
matlockan i even still here?15:24
salvatoredoes anybody knows why my ubuntu machine makes this rumor when i shut it down? the same that you have if turn off an aoudio booster with high volume15:24
zykotick9matlock, have you tried logging in and running "gdmflexiserver --xnest" then taking the screenshot of that window?15:24
Sidewinder1matlock, Yes, still here; sorry I can't help. :-(15:24
matlocksorry, i had my internet disconnect for a minute15:24
matlock** (gdmflexiserver:6590): WARNING **: Not yet implemented15:25
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zykotick9matlock, ah, sorry - guess that feature isn't in Gnome3?15:25
* Sidewinder1 Couldn't take a screenshot of his log-in screen if his life depended on it.15:25
matlockSidewinder1, also, i can't do apps>acc>screenshot when i'm at the login screen15:26
MochaLatteI knew a guy that took a screenshot of his login screen. Ten years later, to the day, hit by a street sweeper. Can't be a coincidence.15:26
Sidewinder1matlock, You'll need someone alot more knowledgeable than I; sorry15:26
Sidewinder1Heh,15:26
salvatoredoes anybody knows why my ubuntu machine makes this rumor when i shut it down? the same that you have if turn off an aoudio booster with high volume15:27
NeosanoI need russian spellchecker. in synaptic package manager I can see aspell-ru, myspell-ru, irussian, libreoffice-l10n-ru - which one is better? O.o15:28
salvatoreor the same when u force shut down pushing power button15:28
Sidewinder1matlock, This'll sound totally stupid but, caution to the wind, take a dig. pic with your camera of your log-in screen? It's finally come to this.. :-(15:28
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sattyhey guys15:29
matlockSidewinder1, yep, seems like it huh15:29
matlockonly problem is now i gotta wait till the problem happens15:29
zykotick9matlock, perhaps from a VT you could use "import -display :0.0 -window root screenshot.png"?15:30
salvatoredoes anybody knows why my ubuntu machine makes this rumor when i shut it down? the same that you have if turn off an aoudio booster with high volume15:30
salvatoreor the same when u force shut down pushing power button15:30
matlockmeh i'll just take a dig pic with my cam15:31
NeosanoI need russian spellchecker. in synaptic package manager I can see aspell-ru, myspell-ru, irussian, libreoffice-l10n-ru - which one is better? O.o15:31
Sidewinder1matlock, I'm certainly no expert on video but what you've described sounds like artifacts/relics and driver related.15:32
Shadow_7salvatore: http://blog.websitestyle.com/index.php/2007/01/19/how-to-disable-ubuntu-startup-shutdown-sounds/15:32
haylo-botyou should do a review and come back and tell us15:32
matlockso even another reason to go back to 10.xx15:32
matlockgreat15:32
matlocki should have stuck with windows15:32
xanguaNeosano: install russian language in Language Settings15:32
matlockat least there the drivers 'just work'15:32
Sidewinder1!who > haylo-bot15:32
ubottuhaylo-bot, please see my private message15:32
sattyhow to solve power regression15:33
sattyubuntu 11.1015:33
matlockSidewinder1, most likely, as i'm unable to use any of the nvidia drivers15:34
haylo-botSidewinder1 you should do a review and come back and tell us15:34
Sidewinder1matlock, Yes, but win brings with itself, it's own 'set' of problems; ot, I know.15:34
matlocklol15:34
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xanguasaw a 'trick' post a few minutes ago satty http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_i915_power&num=115:34
meowsusI've got an external drive that automounts each time I boot, and I want it to stop. It's at /dev/sdc and it isn't listed in /etc/fstab. Do you know how this drive might be automounting and how i can stop it?15:34
Sidewinder1haylo-bot, What shall I review?15:34
xanguatweak*15:34
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zeroplusoneusername _m are you in there15:34
haylo-botwoops wrong person im done talking now15:34
Sidewinder1haylo-bot, NP.15:35
matlockalso ot question buit why in the hell does ubuntuforums require you to login to view solutions to issues?15:35
xangua!forums | matlock15:35
ubottumatlock: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC freenode #ubuntuforums.15:35
PinchiukasWhich log contains the output of cron jobs?15:35
Sidewinder1matlock, You should (register) and ask them? :-)15:35
matlockomg15:35
matlocki mention a keyword and these nubs are all over the triggers15:36
matlockim just going to ignore ubottu15:36
matlockso good luck with the triggers on me15:36
xanguamatlock: please don't and stick to the topic15:36
ikoniawindow 2215:36
ikoniaoops15:36
thegladiatoris there a pdf viewer that can change the pdf colors ( not just invert colors ) like Evince does15:36
matlockdid already15:36
TheEvilPhoenixwhat lines should i look for in the apt sources for the translation packages?  I'd like to remove the Translation ones15:37
TheEvilPhoenixs/ones/repos/15:37
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salvatorethanks!15:38
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salvatorebut was not that sound15:38
hrolfWhat is some good software for burning CDs/DVDs. I have heard some negative reviews about the default CD/DVD burner, Brasero, in Ubuntu. Can suggest an alternative?15:38
Neosanohrolf, k3b15:38
Shadow_7too late... but pcspkr module does one too15:39
Neosanohrolf, also there's Xfburn, very simple and light application15:39
hrolfNeosano: Okie. Is Brasero really bad?15:39
thegladiatori cant install kpdf in ubuntu ?15:39
thegladiatorit does not show up in apt15:39
Neosanohrolf, I have tried it once, didn't meet any problems15:40
llutz_thegladiator: isn't it dead and was replaced by okular?15:40
xanguathegladiator: you mean kde documents viewer, Okular¿15:40
thegladiatorOkahy15:40
Sidewinder1hrolf, The funny thing about Brassero is it gives screwy error messages but burns the CD fine, with no problems; go figure.15:42
m_rkhi, does anybody know why my mouse right click might have stopped working? it is not due to the mouse, because I have tried replacing the mouse with another15:43
Sidewinder1hrolf, That's the beauty of FOSS; there's a ton of burning software, at your finger tips, try as many as you want and stick with what works best for you.15:44
meowsusI've got an external drive that automounts each time I boot, and I want it to stop. It's at /dev/sdc and it isn't listed in /etc/fstab. Do you know how this drive might be automounting and how i can stop it? I'm using LXDE.15:44
xanguatought it was floss :P15:44
* xangua remember is FOSS, not FLOSS :/15:44
Sidewinder1Heh,15:45
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Shadow_7meowsus: autofs or udev might be doing that...15:46
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meowsusShadow_7, it also, randomly, spins up for seemingly no reason... like I'll start a web browser or a new terminal, or just switch windows and it'll spin up, then die down again. It's my backups drive, so I don't want it mounted by default...15:48
meowsusShadow_7, I don't have autofs installed, so maybe it's udev15:49
Shadow_7egrep is your friend...15:49
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Shadow_7could be that dbus / hal / avahi stuff too15:49
pondtry "Storage Divice Manager" ?15:50
gianmarcociao a tutti!15:50
Shadow_7if only unity had a menu to select that from...15:51
matlockand btw, whoever said something about gnome 3??15:52
matlockyou really need to lrn up on ubuntu15:52
matlockcause we don't use gnome 315:52
matlock2.32.115:52
Sidewinder1!gnome3 > matlock15:53
ubottumatlock, please see my private message15:53
Sidewinder1matlock, I thought you'd like that. :P15:53
CountBlueWhat terminal command would I use to list all connected USB devices?  I'm trying to identify the device name of my video capture card.15:54
Shadow_7lsusb15:54
Shadow_7or usbview15:54
Shadow_7not normally installed by default though15:55
Shadow_7dmesg will have connection / driver info on usb stuff too.15:55
xubunturobAnyone using xubuntu 10.04 having trouble with minitube?15:55
CountBlueShadow_7: Thank you.15:55
xanguaxubunturob: add minitube ppa ;)15:56
Shadow_7matlock: what I read online (haha), ubuntu uses gnome 3... as in you have to hold the alt key now when you right mouse the taskbar...15:56
Shadow_7And mine has no menus to select from either...  stupid upgrades...15:57
xubunturobI have ferramroberto's ppa for minitube 1.5 but somehow still have trouble. is there a different ppa other than the one I use?15:57
xanguaxubunturob: already updated minitube from the ppa¿15:57
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nb-benis there a way to mount a ufs partition (freebsd) with rw permissions on Ubuntu?15:58
xanguaxubunturob: if you have troubles you may need to wait for them to release a new version, you can also use totem or umplayer (mplayer gui) to view youtube videos15:58
xubunturob@xangua Yeah I have 1.5 but still have trouble with it I can download video with it but I can't watch or here video I just see the progress bar scroll back and forth it's weird.16:00
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xubunturobxangua I will try Totem and umplayer though thanks16:01
Dougie187I'm trying to get a vpn from inside a chroot to be usable outside of the chroot. But currently the dns lookups outside the chroot don't follow the same route as inside. So I'm curious if anyone know how to make it work how I want.16:02
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Dougie187If you want an explanation of my problem, it can be found here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187203716:03
Stronzecan anyone put me to a web page to run ubuntu classic like 11.04 had in 11.10?16:03
perlmonkeycould someone tell me what has happened to wine in Ubuntu 11.10? How do you run wine apps now from the menu?16:03
iceroot!nounity | Stronze16:03
ubottuStronze: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic16:03
roottbuon giorno a tutti16:04
roottho virtualizzato backtrack16:04
zykotick9Stronze, FYI the fallback mode is only "similar" to Gnome2 - there is no way to turn back the clocks on this one16:05
roottma come mai non riesco a vedere la miua interfaccia di rete?16:05
zykotick9!it | roott16:05
ubotturoott: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)16:05
llutz_!it | roott16:05
rootti 'm sorry16:05
Stronzeunity needs to die a very ugly death16:05
rootti think writing in other room16:05
hrolfI have an .iso which I want to burn and when I open it with Archive Manager, there is a README.txt which says that this contains a UDF file system and requires an OS which supports the UDF file system. What to do?16:05
roottsorry16:05
zykotick9Stronze, then stop supporting the distro that's creating it16:06
Dougie187hrolf: just use brasero16:06
hrolfDougie187: I have installed k3b, should I burn it? Will it be written fine?16:06
Dougie187should be.16:06
hrolfDougie187: Why can't I view the files?16:06
Dougie187Maybe because you don't have the cd mounted? I've never tried to open an iso in archive manager before16:07
nb-benhow do I change ubuntu kernel modules?16:07
Stronzezykoticks 9 - after upgrading last night to 11.10, im really thinking about.16:07
llutz_Stronze: you don'tlike unity? don't use it16:08
xubunturobhrolf  Have you tried acetoneiso it might allow you to look at you files16:08
TheEvilPhoenixStronze:  so use gnomeshell or gnome fallback16:08
TheEvilPhoenixStronze:  did you read the ubottu message you were sent?16:08
TheEvilPhoenixStronze:  you can even uninstall Unity16:09
Stronzei tried gnome fallback and it is nothing like ubuntu classic.  trying to find sudo commands for gnome shell16:09
Gentoo64Stronze: because gnome 3 is different to gnoe 216:10
Stronzealso gnome fallback only displays apps and places. and i can move my app bar to the bottom16:10
TheEvilPhoenix^16:10
Stronzecant*16:10
Dougie187Stronze: try kde, or lxde, or any of the other multitude of DE's.16:10
Stronzeid like to get ubuntu 11.10 running the way i prefer before backing all my data and doing a clean install16:11
stoneguy@search chabon16:11
TheEvilPhoenixStronze:  you can install the DEs on top of your Ubuntu16:11
Stronzereally?16:11
TheEvilPhoenixStronze:  yarly...16:11
JIMORhello world16:11
TheEvilPhoenixStronze:  if you want the Kubuntu software and the KDE stuff with it, kubuntu-desktop16:12
TheEvilPhoenixStronze:  if you want just KDE, kde-standard16:12
JIMOR i have a problem ubuntu 11.10 samba 4 error16:12
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TheEvilPhoenixStronze:  note though that you might not want KDE :P16:12
auronandace!gnome2 | Stronze16:12
ubottuStronze: The GNOME Foundation has ceased support for GNOME 2, and as such it is not in Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot). See !notunity for an alternative desktop experience.16:12
TheEvilPhoenixStronze:  fwiw, i'm running Ubuntu 11.04 with KDE on top of it16:12
* TheEvilPhoenix got pissed at unity one day :P16:12
Stronze!nounity16:12
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic16:12
xangua...16:13
JIMORola alguien me ayuda con una porblema ubuntu 11.10  y samba416:13
zykotick9!es | JIMOR16:13
ubottuJIMOR: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.16:13
Gentoo64!language | JIMOR16:13
ubottuJIMOR: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.16:13
TheEvilPhoenixStronze:  feel free to dump questions to me with my name prepended.16:13
TheEvilPhoenixi need something to eat, so i shall disappear, but i will return if you have questions16:13
TheEvilPhoenix:P16:13
Stronzetheevilphoenix checking ubuntu software center for gnome shell16:14
* Sidewinder1 Sighs..16:14
Michielllli updated ubuntu on my laptop and asked my father to shut it off when it was done so i could go to bed and he told me afterwards that it had an error message. Where does it keep those?16:15
Gentoo64Stronze: gnome shell isnt much different to unity16:15
Sidewinder1Stronze, Another option would be to reinstall 10.04; that's what I use; no unity issues, here. :D16:16
thegladiatorYes Gnome shell almost looks like Unity16:16
thegladiatorAny one here read pdf but prefers to have color options like in Ipad ?16:16
Stronzei REALLY do not want to back up data and fresh install but  do, i think ill try kubuntu. it looks nice16:16
thegladiatorThe plain black and white is heavy for my eyes16:17
rci'm using the latest ubuntu. where can i find the "Keyboard Shortcuts applet"?16:17
V-illeany guidance on how to build gcc trunk on ia-32, 11.10, with the multiarch environment?16:17
* Sidewinder1 Dreads 12.04 but as Teddy said, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.16:17
Gentoo64Stronze: try it. i cant see kde making major changes to the ui16:17
Dougie187Stronze: you can just install kde without a fresh install.16:17
Gentoo64but kde is completely different16:17
thegladiatorSidewinder1, why so ?16:17
Sidewinder1unity16:17
thegladiatorhmm yes Unity looks like a filed experiment to me too16:18
Gentoo64Sidewinder1: 11.04 and 11.10 have unity too though16:18
Shadow_7since ubuntu doesn't seem to come with a decent pdf reader... I just a2ps and the pdf and then gimp the image of it...16:18
Gentoo64comes with evince doesnt it?16:18
thegladiatorIs unity still backing up the Unity project ? I used to like the Human login screen , but Ubuntu changed it16:18
tomodachiShadow_7: do they support adding text comments to pdfs?16:18
tensorpuddingshadow98, look up Document Viewer16:19
Sidewinder1Gentoo64, That's why I'm sittin' here, 10.04 happier than a pig wallowin' in slop.16:19
zykotick9rc, just look for Keyboard - i hear the shortcuts are in there16:19
thegladiatorEvince is there , but the problem with Evince is that we dont have color options , just black and white and inverted16:19
rcanyone know how i can disable the system F1 and F10 keys (i need them for a terminal program)?16:19
tensorpuddingShadow_7, look up Document Viewer16:19
Gentoo64Sidewinder1: youll have to upgrade 1 day lol gnome 2 is dead now16:19
AlicjaCzyliBasia:D16:19
Shadow_7Never knew of Evince... just knew xpdf, gpdf, kpdf, .. the usual suspect lacked availability or ability...16:19
Gentoo64evince is the most common one16:19
PolahShadow_7, tried Okular?16:20
thegladiatorGnome shell doesnt look as impressive bt it could be compiz in my system thats causing havoc16:20
Gentoo64theres epdfview and zathura too which are lighter16:20
Shadow_7I've always used xpdf... kpdf or gpdf are always broken or some such...16:20
Sidewinder1Gentoo64, Yes. I know but that'll be many, many months form now. At which time I'll be here askin' tons-o-questions.16:20
Gentoo64Sidewinder1: you might as well get used to it sooner than later.. or are you only planning on using lts releases?16:21
Sidewinder1LTS only. "D16:21
Polah12.04 will probably still have Unity...16:21
tony_bcdsñ16:21
happyfaceof course it wil16:21
V-illeI went for xfce with compiz, gnome 3 or unity or kde4 didn't feel suitable16:21
Gentoo64i reckon they should ditch it and use gnome shell16:21
Gentoo6499% of people hate unity16:21
rcanyone know where i can find the "keyboard shortcuts applet"?16:21
brontosaurusrex10.04 is supported until 13.04?16:22
Shadow_7I tried going for xfce... but that only broke my video configuration... Now I'm consoling it...16:22
PolahThen that 99% can use another UI. A lot of people like it, some people don't. Their choice to use it or not, simple.16:22
Gentoo64but16:22
icerootbrontosaurusrex: yes (the desktop edition)16:22
Gentoo64more people than not like it16:22
Stronzei need to stop hiding under rocks and find out about next releases. i was praying they would kill unity in the 11.10 release so most dont like it16:22
PolahThen they don't need to use it. Like I said, easy.16:23
tensorpuddingunity isn't going away16:23
Sidewinder1Polah, You're probably right but, with all of the major complaining that has and IMHO will continue, perhaps the devs will make it a little more intuitive. At least that's my hope.16:23
Shadow_7It's okay... but the ad icon anoys me... and the general waste of real-estate...16:23
V-illethe current environments don't feel right for keyboard navigation16:23
tensorpuddingi think they should include gnome-shell in the default install16:23
brontosaurusrexso there you go, happy until 2013 and at that date unity will either improve drastically or die, or maybe mankind will change to approve it, either way a win :P16:23
tensorpuddingbut whatevs, it's just a download away16:23
PolahUnity more intuitive? Probably, it has only been around for a year (including development probably), it' still not finished16:23
Stronzei loved ubuntu classic option. i like a simple desktop with nothing fancy.16:24
Gentoo64i just think that because most users hate it, unity should be a download instead of gnome shell16:24
Sidewinder1brontosaurusrex, I'm with 'ya.16:24
nb-benhow do I run a kernel update on Ubuntu?16:24
nb-ben(no ui)16:24
rcmidnight commander uses the F1 and F10 keys, but the system (i assume gnome) as taken over those bindings...16:24
icerootnb-ben: security-update or major update?16:24
goshawki really like unity16:24
Sidewinder1Stronze, If that's the case, why not go back to 10.04?16:24
nb-beniceroot: major, I suppose16:24
Gentoo64is there much point at this date?16:24
tensorpuddingF1 isn't used by GNOME16:24
Stronzesidewinder - i REALLY dont want fresh install16:24
Gentoo6410.04 is old16:25
nb-beniceroot: i want the newest16:25
icerootnb-ben: why?16:25
Shadow_7I like having cpu and net meters in my task bar... lets me know when things have gone awry...  Unity doesn't seem to have those...16:25
tensorpuddingit's use by a lot of programs though, for Help16:25
goshawknb-ben, sudo apt-get install linux-image-VERSION YOU WANT16:25
PolahGentoo64, a lot of people like it, Canonical supports it's use. They can get Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Lubuntu and avoid Unity altogether if they want those instead.16:25
nb-beniceroot: i need to mount a ufs partition, and I think my kenel is too old for it16:25
tensorpuddingF10 is bound by Unity for some silly thing related to menus16:25
icerootgoshawk: there is only one kernel in the repos16:25
Sidewinder1Stronze, Desktop version will be supported until 04/201316:25
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x_you can remove unity/ from 10.10 and install whichever one you want also.16:25
goshawknb-ben, which version are u using_16:25
goshawk?16:25
icerootnb-ben: you can use backports, find a repo (ppa) with a newer kernel or build it from source16:25
iceroot!backports | nb-ben16:26
ubottunb-ben: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging16:26
goshawkiceroot, yeah, one version but different revisions16:26
Stronzesidewinder im checking out lxde. it seems the type of desktop enviroment i like16:26
RobertVanyone else figured out how to re-map the F10 key?16:26
Sidewinder1Stronze, Well, then, there you are. :-)16:26
llutz_x_: there is no unity on 10.10 by default16:26
nb-ben2.6.22 on andLinux (using it to mount parts on Windows)16:26
tony_hi16:26
nb-ben(and then access through SMB)16:26
x_RobertV, you need to make a ~/.Xmodmap file16:26
icerootnb-ben: that is not ubuntu16:26
Gentoo64nb-ben: what release has that kernel16:26
icerootnb-ben: and not supported here16:26
mang0I closed thunderbird from the menu buttons, but now if I try to open it i get an error telling me taht it's already open. How can I shut down the process tree of thunderbird and then stop this happing in future?16:26
smwx_, 11.10 is the first one  where you can't use the old gnome16:27
nb-benit's andLinux ( a coLinux fork )16:27
Stronzereboot16:27
nb-benand it's running Ubuntu on it16:27
icerootnb-ben: not supported here16:27
Sidewinder1Stronze, You might also look at Xfce.16:27
x_llutz, I meant 11.1016:27
tony_y16:27
xanguamang0: use control+q ¿16:27
nb-beniceroot: it's a fully functioning Ubuntu, I could install ubuntu on it without any modification16:27
Shadow_7mang0: the simple answer... reboot... or open a term... use ps to find the pid... use kill -9 pid to kill it... or killall appname... or other ways...16:27
mang0xangua: Thunderbird isn't open. Ubuntu just thinks it is16:27
nb-beniceroot: it's like running it under virtualbox16:27
goshawknb-ben, ok which ubuntu version_16:27
goshawk?16:27
Shadow_7old school task manager.16:27
mang0Shadow_7: killall thudnerbird sounds good16:28
* mang0 trys16:28
smwSidewinder1, I tried xfce and it is amazing how much better it is than a year ago. I forget I am not using gnome2 :-).16:28
gabriel_hola16:28
xanguamang0: already check in the message indicator¿ (envelope)16:28
x_RobertV, xmodmap -pke > ~/.Xmodmap16:28
nb-bengoshawk: how do I check that16:28
icerootnb-ben: but the kernel is coming from the host? and not from the vm?16:28
goshawknb-ben, lsb-release -a16:28
mang0xangua: I don't use the msg envelope16:28
icerootnb-ben: like xen?16:28
Shadow_7mang0: you might still need ps to find it's true name... thunderbird-bin or other nonsense16:28
Michielllli updated ubuntu on my laptop and asked my father to shut it off when it was done so i could go to bed and he told me afterwards that it had an error message. Where does it keep those logs?16:28
goshawknb-ben, lsb_release -a16:28
goshawkwith _ instead of -16:28
nb-beniceroot: I suppose, but natively running on Windows... it's not the same like those kind of virtualizations16:28
Sidewinder1smw, That's why I suggested it to him/her but I think he went off to reboot and missed it. :-(16:28
toniypedro cf16:29
zykotick9Shadow_7, using -9 right away can lead to issues, you should recommend a regular "kill PIDNUMBER" first, before using a nuclear attack16:29
mang0Shadow_7, ps just gives me two entries....16:29
mang0ps and bash16:29
toniypedrohi16:29
goshawkiceroot, it's a paravirtualizzation method16:29
icerootnb-ben: that is an important thing if you want to update the kernel16:29
zykotick9mang0, try "ps aux"16:29
Shadow_7ps -Al16:29
Shadow_7or ps fuwax16:29
llutz_mang0: pgrep thunder16:29
toniypedroi have a problem whit compix please help16:30
nb-benwaiting on lsb_release16:30
x_or ps die die die16:30
x_:-)16:30
llutz_mang0: pkill thunderb16:30
goshawknb-ben, it's slow. mine return in less than one sec16:30
mang0llutz_: pgrep thunder didn't do anything...16:30
nb-bengoshawk: i know, no idea why that is though16:30
llutz_mang0: so its not running16:30
toniypedroi have install ubuntu 11.  and now i cannot16:31
Shadow_7normally if I need to use kill -9... it's far beyond needing a nuclear attack...16:31
RDanyone around to help me with a display issue by chance, upgraded to new distro, and it seems to have made myresolution large enough to fit on a billboard, and i cannot see anything16:31
mang0llutz_: Aha! I shut it with killall thunderbird16:31
toniypedrosee the menu i only see the desktop16:31
mang0Thanks llutz_, xangua, Shadow_7 :)16:31
goshawknb-ben, in general you can find kernel packages easily from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/16:31
nb-benubuntu 9.04 jaunty16:31
goshawknb-ben, but be careful, u can break easily your system16:31
nb-benthat's what it says16:31
goshawknb-ben, it's very old16:32
goshawkconsider of update to a newest version16:32
goshawk*to16:32
nb-benidc about breaking it, I don't actually store anything in it16:32
Sidewinder1!nounity | toniypedro16:32
ubottutoniypedro: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic16:32
nb-benI store it in what used to be an ext3 partition (which now was changed to UFS)16:32
nb-benI am beginning to think NTFS is the most universal fs to do this for lol16:33
evonAnyone know of any hardware diagnostic utilities?  I would like to test if an HD attached to my system still work properly.16:33
nb-bens/for/with *16:33
goshawknb-ben, i suggest u to update do at least 2.6.35-3716:33
toniypedroi try the command line unity-reset16:33
xanguanb-ben: neither andlinux and 9.04 are supported here16:33
Shadow_7haha... sessions dropdown... when I upgraded... those things went completely away...  thought they switched to plan 9 or something16:33
Sidewinder1evon, How 'bout Disk Utility?16:33
toniypedroplease16:33
nb-bengoshawk: is there a way for me to do that?16:33
nb-bengoshawk: in a command, I mean16:33
evon<Sidewinder1>  Is that preinstalled in Ubuntu?16:34
goshawknb-ben, pvt, it seems that people don't like old ubuntu discussions here16:34
xanguatoniypedro: did you disabled the unity plugin on compiz settings¿16:34
nb-benalright16:34
Sidewinder1evon, It is/was in my 10.04: System-->Administration-->Disk Utility.16:35
evon<Sidewinder1> ok I am running it now and I am doing some benchmarks on it.  But will this tell me if the drive is faulty or not?16:35
Sidewinder1evon, It should.16:35
Sidewinder1evon, As well as a wealth of other info..16:36
rabbi1how to reset my rhythmbox ?16:37
Sidewinder1reset?16:37
goshawkrabbi1, install from software center16:37
evon<Sidewinder1>  Well i just did a read test and it came back fine but it can't do a read/write test because the drive has to be empty. are there any other tests?16:37
goshawkrabbi1, i understood that you want rythmbox instead of banshee16:37
rabbi1goshawk: i got RB, but its hung,  how to reset from the terminal ?16:38
goshawkRB?16:38
xanguarabbi1: pkill rhythmbox ¿16:38
rabbi1xangua: but can't find the process when i hit "top" in the terminal16:39
Sidewinder1evon, Within Disk Utility, did you click on Smart Data?16:39
xangua(10:38:52) goshawk: RB? - rabbi1: no one is charging you for letter ;)16:39
pippo_69salve a tutti16:39
xangualetters*16:39
Sidewinder1evon, If not, please try that.16:39
pippo_69!list16:39
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».16:39
rabbi1xangua: :) ha ha rhythmbox16:39
jacob4815162342how can I share my screen on ubuntu?16:39
goshawkxangua, :)16:39
ePiratI've a problem, after updating to new ubuntu version i can't boot anymore16:39
Sidewinder1!it | pippo_6916:39
ubottupippo_69: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)16:39
rabbi1thanks guys16:40
evon<Sidewinder1>  I don't see anything that says smart data.  However I did install another program that gives me that info and the HD self-diag. tells me everything is fine16:40
jacob4815162342I mean, as a remote desktop16:40
Sidewinder1evon, Cool!16:41
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evon<Sidewinder1>  So it's safe to assume then that the HD is good to go?16:41
Sidewinder1evon, Sounds like it; I'm a little confused why you didn't see the Smart Data to click on; 'tis certainly on mine.16:42
scorpio1497E: /var/cache/apt/archives/faenza-icons-mono_1.0_i386.deb: subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 216:43
scorpio1497could someone help me with this problem?16:43
evon<Sidewinder1>  Yeah i don't know either16:43
evon<Sidewinder1>  thanks for the help16:44
Sidewinder1evon, My pleasure. :-)16:44
Parameterdoes anyone happen to know if there is a way to monitor I/O activity pertaining character special files such as /dev/ttyUSB0?16:46
Mahmouddamn. where does "ca-certificates" install its ca files?16:47
llutz_Mahmoud: dpkg -L ca-certificates16:48
theadminMahmoud: dpkg -L ca-certificates # will give you a full list of files in the package16:48
steve__hello?16:49
steve__wondering if someone can help me out16:50
Sidewinder1!ask16:50
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:50
theadminsteve__: ^ that16:50
steve__lol16:50
Sidewinder1:D16:51
ethicalhackhello i need some help with my Ubuntu pls16:51
theadminethicalhack: Help with what? Details, please, details16:51
Sidewinder1!ask | ethicalhack16:51
ubottuethicalhack: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:51
oliphanthi, why is it that when I start firefox in Ubuntu I get a blanco page while I have set goole in preferences? Can anybody tell me this?16:52
steve__ok kool, well i have a few problems, i basically linux noob, i have searched thread after thread on basically customisation with ubuntu 10.4, first off i managed new splash screen but i see it for about 2 seconds the rest of the time its black screen a bit like the command line16:52
ethicalhacki need to make sure that i have closed all unecessary ports and what the commands are, so that even if someone tries to nmap my ip, they wont get any open ports16:52
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theadminethicalhack: They won't get any listening ports, true enough, however closing ports makes no real sense...16:52
llutz_ethicalhack: netstat -tulepn16:52
shock99erhi everybody!16:53
oliphanthi shock99er16:53
ethicalhackhow come16:54
ethicalhackok16:54
amrostill experiencing bug #811441 on a fresh install after a first reboot, tried all the suggested fixes and none work. any ideas?16:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 858122 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Precise) "duplicate for #811441 incomplete migration to /run (shutdown script order has been demolished)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85812216:54
ePirathow do i copy my home directory to a external HDD using SSH?16:54
shock99ercan anyone give me some help with a failing USB drive?16:54
negevhi, im trying to run "top -n1" from crontab but it fails because it can't attach to a tty. anyone know a way around this?16:54
llutz_ePirat: cp -ax /home/whoever /mnt/yourhdd16:54
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theadminnegev: Redirect the output to a file.16:54
edgyW: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com oneiric Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>16:55
edgyW: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com oneiric Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192 Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>16:55
theadminnegev: I suppose, if that can even be done with top16:55
FloodBot1edgy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:55
llutz_negev: top -b16:55
E_RocI have a problem with my HTML coding homework.16:55
ePiratllutz_, how i discover what i have to put there for yourhdd ?16:55
shock99erI tried lsusb but received no detection16:55
ethicalhackwhere can i find the C header files that match your running kernel?16:55
edgysorry I thought two lines are normal ;)16:55
E_RocIs there anyone here who can give me some advice as to whats wrong?16:55
ethicalhackmy*16:55
llutz_ePirat: "mount" tells you what is mounted where16:55
negevllutz_: thanks :)16:56
zykotick9llutz, not if it's being mounted by gnome :(16:56
llutz_ethicalhack: i guess we are not supposed to do your homework16:56
xangua!gpgerr | edgy16:57
ubottuedgy: Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key> »16:57
ethicalhackim trying to install a vmware server ,but i get that message16:57
E_Rocok, have a nice day16:57
E_RocAnyone else?16:57
shock99erfdisk -l does not detect it either..16:58
steve__can someone kind of train me please?  i have a few problems, im basically a linux noob, i have searched thread after thread on basically customisation with ubuntu 10.4, first off i managed new splash screen but i see it for about 2 seconds the rest of the time its black screen a bit like the command line16:58
llutz_ethicalhack: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)16:58
zykotick9E_Roc, HTML homework is not ontopic in this channel16:58
ethicalhacknice ,thanks16:58
E_RocCan you please, direct me to a channel that is?16:58
llutz_ethicalhack: dpkg -L linux-headers-$(uname -r)  if your really need the path16:58
edgyxangua: sorry but the error is mentioning extra.ubuntu.com and this is not something I added, it's an official, no?16:59
E_RocOr at least tell me how to find one?16:59
zykotick9steve__, plymouth (the splash screen) was buggy in 10.04 especially with proprietary drivers...16:59
theadminE_Roc: You can PM me.16:59
gr33n7007hsteve__, is it the grub splash screen?17:00
steve__zyk do u know alot about linux? i cud use a patient brain to pik in pm?17:00
steve__i don't know what grub is lol17:00
GinoManok.... for some reason, ubuntu treates my external keyboard differently than my laptop keyboard17:00
shock99ercan anyone help me with my usb drive?17:00
lolzerwhat does it mean to allow indexes in apache configuration??17:00
GinoManit won't let it ctrl+alt+del ctrl+alt+bksp or ctrl+alt+F#17:00
brontosaurusrexE_Roc, #html ?17:00
shock99erI tried lsusb but received no detection17:01
shock99erfdisk -l does not detect it either..17:01
shock99erI worked before a couple of days ago17:01
gr33n7007hgrub is the bootloader for linux17:02
PinchiukasWhich log contains the output of cron jobs?17:02
steve__then dont i have to use it? .. lol can we pm or something?17:02
brontosaurusrexlolzer, showing folders with files, the index is apache generated17:02
ePiratllutz_, hm, this doesn't helped a lot… there are only some strange "none on /sys/kernel" things...17:03
brontosaurusrexlolzer, the usual behaviour is to generate one if no index.html is found17:03
lolzerbrontosaurusrex,  do you mean  the page has no index.html??17:03
brontosaurusrexexactly17:03
llutz_ePirat: how did you attach the usb-hdd?17:04
ePiratwhat?17:04
shock99ermaybe you're talking to me ;)17:04
llutz_ePirat: or wait, you want to copy remote /home to a local attached hDD?17:04
lolzerbrontosaurusrex," They keep everything open and allow indexes in their Apache configuration" from the social network film ... is this possible??17:05
ePiratllutz_, i am now physically on the machine, hdd is attached to it, i opened now shell with stag + F1 (cause everything is broken and UI stopped working) and want to backup my data...17:05
kerii have ubuntu 10.04 and Iphone 4 iso 5.0.  I need help getting them to sync17:05
llutz_ePirat: and how is ssh involded there?17:06
llutz_involved17:06
ePirati tried doing it via ssh before (because UI doesn't work)17:06
lolzerbrontosaurusrex,  if you want to take a look "http://www.williamegan.ie/blog/2010/original-markzuckerberg-drunken-blog-posts-from-the-night-of-facemash/"17:06
evonkeri. i don't have one but I've see plugins for Exaile for Iphones17:06
llutz_ePirat: still "mount" to get the mountpoint17:06
evonkeri. unforunately that's about all the help i can give sorry ;-)17:07
steve__can i have a private message with a pro please i'm a linux noob17:07
ePiratyes but i don't get anything helpful using mount, doesn't show up the hdd...17:07
meadhikariAny one knows where I can find libtorrent.py17:07
K4kHas anyone here had luck getting the Intel 4 series gfx chipset working with HDMI output in 11.10? It detects VGA and DVI just fine but my TV shows no signal on HDMI17:07
xangua!pm | steve__17:07
ubottusteve__: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.17:07
zykotick9ePirat, you could use "mount | grep sd" to only see Hard disks listed17:08
llutz_ePirat: "sudo fdisk -l"17:08
kerii have google it and http://askubuntu.com/questions/994/can-i-sync-with-my-iphone-4-and-ipad and i did this and no luck.  when i plug iphone it does nothing17:08
xanguakeri: better downgrade to iOS 4 ;) or upgrade to latest ubuntu 11.1017:08
llutz_ePirat: most likely its /dev/sdb or sdc, so "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt"17:08
keriok i can upgreade up17:08
kerii not sure how to down grade on iphone without itunes17:09
steve__ok how do i stop ubuntu 10.4 showing command line instead of my splash screen?17:09
kerimu update manger don't show 11.10 how do i get it17:10
zykotick9keri, upgrading from 10.04LTS would require 10.04->10.10->11.04->11.10 - are you SURE you want to upgrade?17:11
kerii want to sync my iphone.  if i don't have to upgrade it would be great17:11
K4kHas anyone here had luck getting the Intel 4 series gfx chipset working with HDMI output in 11.10? It detects VGA and DVI just fine but my TV shows no signal on HDMI17:12
ePiratllutz_, I get WARNING: GTP (GUID Partition Table) detected on /dev/sdc! The until frisk doesn't support GPT, Use GNU Parted17:12
petisnnakeHi, I have Ubuntu 10.04 and a Geforce 460gtx. Any ideas why my os doesn't find any proprietary drivers for my gpu automatically?17:12
llutz_ePirat: try "sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt"17:13
kerii got my iphone using straight talk and Wed I am goin to jailbreak it and it is legal to do.  so i have left is to sync.... zykotick9 can you help me sync my iphone 4 with ubuntu 10.04 without grading?17:13
ePiratllutz_, ok and now?17:13
llutz_ePirat: any error17:14
zykotick9keri, sorry i don't go near Apple issues - good luck17:14
llutz_?17:14
keridang17:14
steve__how do i stop ubuntu 10.4 showing command line instead of my splash screen? or change my login screen17:14
edbiansteve__: Does it show the splash screen at all during boot?17:14
llutz_ePirat: "cp -ax /home/you /mnt"  to copy17:14
happyfacesteve__, silent mode in grub17:15
zykotick9steve__, why does Splash or Login matter?  You see them for line a minute.  It's a lot of work to fix either of your "issues".  Good luck.17:15
zykotick9s/line/like/17:15
steve__i see it for about 2 seconds thats all and i don't anything about grub happyface17:15
zykotick9happyface, steve__ does see plymouth for a second, so it's not silent in grub17:15
Michiellllheh i have ubuntu on my laptop and updated it but it had an error and is fucked up now.... i didn't see it since my dad shut it off, any idea's where it keeps the logs?17:16
steve__zyk i hate not having customised things on comps17:16
edbiansteve__: Please use my name if you're talking to me17:16
steve__ok sorry edbian17:16
zykotick9steve__, lol and your switching to Ubuntu - that's funny17:16
edbiansteve__: that's ok17:16
steve__zykotick9 i had vista.. can u blame me?17:16
toumboHi!!Anyone knows how to make dash home be always on top of other applicationsq17:16
zykotick9steve__, umm, ya that would be an improvement then.17:17
ePiratllutz_, i get a lot of "The operation is not allowed" errors while copying17:17
ia9371where can i find documentation online for Ubuntu?!17:17
ia9371i mean ubuntu server 1117:17
meta-coderhttp://www.spielzeugz.de/html5/sticky-thing/  <- Addictive and sticky HTML5 experiment17:17
steve__i was basically told to get linux and this was the easiest to use lol so any help would be great i can't work it at all17:18
llutz_ePirat: ctrl-c   to stop. what filesystem on hdd?17:18
ia9371im llookin for llike official ubuntu documentation17:18
ia9371ununtu serve17:18
zykotick9ia9371, well here is some quasi-official stuff https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Servers17:18
ia9371i found it17:19
ia9371thank17:19
CodeWarI messed with compiz under Unity and now its completely un-usable .. unity --reset, didn't help, any suggestions17:19
[fields]had Ubuntu & Windows... removed Ubuntu partition... everything has been fine for a week until I rebooted and got "grub rescue>" no filesystem message.  I put in an Ubuntu thumbdrive to get an OS up, and can see all the data on the HDD, I plugged in an external 1TB HDD and can see the data on it, but why can't I create a folder and begin to backup/copy files?17:21
llutz_ePirat: mount |grep sdc1           what filesystem does it show?17:21
steve__ok failing that then is there a better linux os that is straight forward or has a program that will change it all for me?17:21
toumboCodeWar enter ubuntu with gnome shell and with compiz comfig manager make a tick to the unity plugin17:21
jasoxI am having problem with lag on ubuntu 11.10 (fglrx driver)17:22
gr33n7007hsteve__, sudo nano /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme17:22
ePiratllutz_, how i make the | ? (keyboard layout is not german anymore so I don't know)17:22
danslojasox: welcome to ATI on linux17:22
jasox:(17:22
gr33n7007hWALLPAPER=/path/to/you/picture17:22
edbian[fields]: You probably can as root17:22
jasoxdanslo, what is best solution17:23
[fields]edbian:  decent idea, I am running on thumbdrive.  I don't know how to access these windows partitions by terminal.17:23
llutz_ePirat: just type "mount" and watch the line containing sdc117:23
jasoxdanslo, delete fglrx ? :S17:23
danslojasox: to be honest, I've had more success just getting rid of fglrx, but that's me17:23
ePiratvfat (rw)17:23
edbian[fields]: gksudo nautilus will probably help :)17:23
ePiratllutz_17:23
steve__gr33n7007h i just did that just came up with loadsa crap in the terminal what do i do17:24
danslojasox: actually, the 'real' solution is to get an nvidia card and never look back :P17:24
jasoxdanslo, no more cube 2 sauerbraten on ubuntu17:24
mojo706hello anyone had a problem with installing Ubuntu One after upgrading to 11.10?17:24
llutz_ePirat: then you'll have to tar the files to preserve permissions etc. "sudo tar --one-file-system -cvf /mnt/home-backup.tar /home/user"17:24
jasoxdanslo, :D17:24
gr33n7007hwhere it says WALLPAPER change it to the path where your picture you want to use17:24
[fields]edbian:  all those words mean slight something to me.  But honestly I don't have a clue what you just said.  I just want to create a folder and drag & drop important files.17:24
[fields]i don17:25
[fields]I don't want to lose my porn17:25
edbian[fields]: gksduo nautilus (is a command) opens a nautilus GUI window as root.  Careful with it!17:25
edbian[17:25
steve__it doesnt say wallpaper anywhere jut got this ---------   GNU nano 2.2.2        File: /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme17:25
steve__else17:25
steve__EOF17:25
steve__fi17:25
steve__# otherwise, set a monochromatic theme for Ubuntu17:25
FloodBot1steve__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:25
steve__if ${use_bg} ; then17:25
edbian[fields]: open a terminal, type 'gksudo nautilus' without quotes, press enter, use that window to copy / paste whatever wherever17:25
ePiratllutz_, […] FAT: Directory bread(block 6334) failed17:26
steve__s17:26
llutz_ePirat: never seen, i have no idea what that means.17:26
ePirattra: /mnt/home-backup.tar: Kann open nicht ausführen: Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler17:26
ePirat*tar17:26
ePiratInout Output error17:26
[fields]edbian:  THANK YOU!!  YOU SAVED THE PORN!17:27
edbian[fields]: sure17:27
steve__never mind i'll have to search the thread again i suppoe17:27
ePiratthe Error is not recoverable: exiting now17:27
toumboSavior of porn!! Trollolol17:27
edbian[fields]: I'm thinking now the permissions are wrong on the copied version of the files.  Are you able to mv / cp / delete the files without using that special root nautilus window?17:27
llutz_ePirat: seems your system dislikes the external hdd, or the filesystem is broken ... or.. whatever17:28
rrvahi! I was upgrading to oneiric and accidentally answered no on question to replace /etc/init/networking.conf. How to get the oneiric version of that file? I tried apt-get --reinstall install17:28
rrvaI also tried dpkg-reconfigure ifupdown17:28
ePiratah works now17:28
llutz_ePirat: haeh, how comes?17:28
ePiratoh wait… only a bit...17:28
ePiratweird17:28
ePiratOnly wrote 6144 of 10240 Bytes17:29
llutz_ePirat: sounds not like a working backup17:29
ePiratand again the Error is not recoverable...17:29
CodeWartoumbo, thanks that helped17:29
toumboCodeWar :D17:30
llutz_ePirat: "df -h /" does it have enough free to take a copy of your /home?17:31
llutz_ePirat: same for "df -h /mnt"17:32
skoreyeah just joined linux family17:32
skoremy firs ubuntu17:33
jasoxskore, welcome17:33
rtyuiohello there17:33
skorethx17:33
rtyuiowhat type of cable we need to connect between 2 router  ?17:33
llutz_rtyuio: cat5/6 straight17:34
rtyuiolet me check llutz17:34
ePiratllutz_, / 17G Used, 88G Avail17:34
llutz_ePirat: and /mnt?17:35
ePiratllutz_ /mnt 197M used, 2.5K Avail17:35
ePiratthats weird17:35
llutz_ePirat ahhh, full it is17:35
ePiratit is a 1TB drive17:35
llutz_ePirat: not recognized correctly17:35
ePiratoh17:35
skoreguys how can i delelte and create new evolution mail profile? please pm17:35
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toumboWhat have to do to make my home dash appear always on top?17:36
ePiratllutz_, what can i do?17:36
ePiratllutz_, maybe format the whole hdd?17:36
llutz_ePirat: "sudo parted -l"17:36
RDok, so have decided to fix my resolution going to command line, is there a way to get to command line before resolution is set so i can see what i am doing, if not, going with a bootable cd that i can edit manyaly the file for it, what is a good cd bootable linux distro ?17:36
llutz_ePirat: does it list more than sdc1 for your external drive?17:37
WacemannVidia Legacy driver issues. Installed 71xx from nVidia website as this was the only pack which supports my GeForce 256 DDR. When my Ubuntu 10.04 reboots, screen flashes and gives error:17:37
Waceman(EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so17:37
Waceman(EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (loader failed, 7)17:37
ePiratllutz_, yes17:37
llutz_ePirat: anything bigger than 200MB?17:37
awantihow to setup local repository.17:38
xangua!offline | awanti17:38
ePiratDaten with 800GB17:38
ubottuawanti: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ - See also !APTonCD17:38
ePiratand Apple_HFS_Untitled_2 199 GB17:38
awantiyes17:38
llutz_ePirat: 800GB = /dev/sdc2? then: sudo umount /mnt && sudo mount /dev/sdc2 /mnt17:39
zykotick9awanti, depending on what you want to do, check out apt-cacher or apt-cacher-ng (if you have multiple computers locally, that you want to feed updates to)17:39
ePirat800GB = /dev/sdc, llutz_17:40
awantibecause i am having 10 ubuntu machines. 1 pc is connected to the internet, remaining pcs are connected locally17:40
ediberterror: incompatible licence17:40
edibertgrub rescue>17:40
edibertAnyone can help me how to fix this?17:40
llutz_ePirat: can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" please17:40
llutz_!paste | ePirat17:40
ubottuePirat: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:40
ePiratllutz_, I'll make a photo, now wy to copy paste atm17:41
awantiyes <zykotick9> i want to feed updates to local computers17:41
llutz_ePirat: shorter: does it really don't show a number in front of "Daten .. 800GB" row "Anzahl" ?17:42
zykotick9awanti, so apt-cacher would be an easy way to create a local mirror then17:42
ePiratllutz_, it does: 1 - EFI System Partition; 2- Apple_HFS_Untitled_2; 3- Recovery HD; 4 - Daten17:43
awantido you have any good docs or any links, so that i can refer17:43
llutz_ePirat: here we are, its "/dev/sdc4" then17:43
edibertePirat: can I ask you somethig?17:44
llutz_ePirat: thats a MAC HDD?17:44
ePiratit is17:44
llutz_ePirat: last attepmt: sudo umount /mnt && sudo mount /dev/sdc4 /mnt17:44
ePiratllutz_, can't find /dev/sdc4 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab17:45
ePirat:/17:45
llutz_ePirat: you missed the /mnt at the end of the line?17:45
llutz_ePirat: sudo mount /dev/sdc4 /mnt17:45
ePiratoh sorry17:45
ralf_lol17:45
llutz_ePirat: "df -h /mnt" should show some space available17:46
ePiratmount: /mnt is not a block device17:46
ePirat:o17:46
indy_hi folks17:46
llutz_ePirat: 1st: sudo umount /mnt17:47
indy_can anyone recommend a app that I can use to edit a metacity theme xml file?17:47
ePiratllutz_, not mounted @_@17:47
ePiratllutz_, I'll reboot the machine it's kinda messed up atm17:47
ePiratllutz_, same error, not a block oriented device or something (it's german so i translated it, original message may be different)17:51
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edibertI got this error message after my installation of ubuntu... error: incompatible licence ..  grub rescue>17:52
edibertCan anyone help me fix this?17:53
edibertPLEASE17:53
K4kCan someone help me figure out why I'm not getting HDMI output using the intel HDMI on my system?17:54
jpmhI have a laptop that I often use with an external monitor,  Is there a way that I can send a command to the external one to turn it off like the internal one does17:54
K4kI'm simply getting a black screen, I assume it's a resolution error but I'm unsure how to resolve it as the tv does not get detected17:55
llutz_ePirat: "sudo mount /dev/sdc4 /mnt"17:55
edibertCan someone help me to fix this error: incompatible licence..  grub rescue>  ..after install ubuntu  PLEASEEEE17:56
ePiratllutz_, this gives me the error mentioned above17:56
ePiratah now17:57
ePiratsorry forgot that after reboot it wasn't /dev/sdc4 but /dev/sdb417:57
llutz_ePirat: "df -h /mnt" should show now some space available17:58
ePirati got warning: /mnt seems to be mounted read-omly17:58
ePiratyes, Avail 681G17:58
llutz_ePirat: "mount" watch the sdb4 line, what filesystem?17:58
ePirathfs+17:58
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llutz_ePirat: super, i don't know if linux can write hfs+17:59
ePiratllutz_, ok mounted the sdb1, which is fat32 and seems to work17:59
llutz_ePirat: you should get a disk with a common filesystem like ext-fs/ntfs or maybe vfat17:59
ePiratk i will format it...17:59
llutz_ePirat: sdb1 has 10k free, what would you like to store?18:00
wweweanyone here use debian?18:00
llutz_wwewe: #debian18:00
wweweHow do I upgrade from wheezy to sid18:00
wweweI cant', I'm banned there18:00
edibertCan someone help me to fix this error: incompatible licence..  grub rescue>  ..after install ubuntu  PLEASEEEE18:00
llutz_wwewe: for a reason.18:00
ePiratllutz_, oh right may not be enough...18:00
ePiratllutz_, can i format the hdd with ubuntu or i have to use the mac?18:01
llutz_ePirat: you don't need the data on that disk anymore?18:01
ePiratllutz_, no this is just a backup of a backup18:01
ePiratit's ok do delete everything18:01
llutz_ePirat: "sudo parted /dev/sdb"18:01
llutz_ePirat: "mklabel msdos"18:02
llutz_ePirat: STOP, 1st umount /mnt18:02
ia9371h/j #math18:02
realpainI need help, during a Facebook like support! For my doggie, would you able to like it?18:02
ePiratllutz_, k done18:02
edibertCan someone help me to fix this error: incompatible licence..  grub rescue>  ..after install ubuntu  PLEASEEEE18:02
llutz_ePirat: "mklabel msdos"  done? "quit" then18:03
llutz_ePirat: "sudo fdisk /dev/sdb"18:03
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llutz_ePirat: sry my connection dropped18:07
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naftilos76Hi, has anyone lost data (emails) stored in Evolution? I am just thinking about using it as my email client.18:08
ePiratnp18:08
llutz_ePirat: "mklabel msdos"  done? "quit" then.  you did?18:08
varunanyone having any idea about channel where i can get info on SimpleScalar?18:09
ePiratllutz_, yep worked18:10
llutz_ePirat: "sudo fdisk /dev/sdb"18:10
ePiratk18:11
llutz_ePirat: "d" enter "4" when asking for partition-number,   "d" enter "3", "d" enter "2", "d"   and all partition are removed18:11
llutz_ePirat: "p" should list an empty drive18:12
idontgetthisis there any way to get my computer to drop everything in swap?18:12
joeC1!Time18:12
ubottuInformation about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)18:12
ePiratoh wait18:13
ePiratllutz_, have to reboot, brb18:13
idontgetthishtop tells me what process is taking up how much memory in a really nicely human-readable format18:13
idontgetthisis there anything like that for what process is taking up how much swap?18:14
idontgetthisi guess if i knew that i could just kill / pkill18:14
llutz_idontgetthis: not processes use swap, the kernel does18:14
KBentley57hey guys, has anyone had a look at the 3.1 kernel yet?18:14
idontgetthisllutz_: okay, i don't really care for semantics. swap is clearly the limiting factor for performance on my laptop at times. when swap is inevitably used, i want to figure out what instigated its use. how do i do that?18:15
JLuchello18:16
ePiratllutz_, yes empty18:16
ePiratshows no partition at all now18:16
jpmhidontgetthis:  you can't really say that a process is taking swap - the system is - you can look for the processes that are active when you get to that state18:16
KBentley57idontgetthis: how much ram do you have?18:16
idontgetthisKBentley57: 1 G18:17
llutz_ePirat: "n" "primary" "1" "start/end" just press enter18:17
carlosarliif i have any problems with my xubuntu have i to look for help here? cause i didn't understand very well the wiki18:17
ePiratllutz_, done18:17
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KBentley57idontgetthis:  it's using swap, with ram still available I'm guessing, right?18:17
idontgetthisKBentley57: yes18:17
llutz_ePirat: "p" should list now 1 primary nearly 1TB linux partition18:18
idontgetthisKBentley57: vm.swappiness = 0 as well btw18:18
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ePiratllutz_, doesn't show size, only "Blocks"18:18
LogicallyDashingI just upgraded my old 10.04 machine. Used to be, I used Network Manager to share the wireless connection with the wired. Now when I do that, the wired connection disconnects after a second or so. What should I do?18:18
llutz_ePirat: lots of blocks, so :) "w" to write,  make it permanent18:18
ePiratdone18:18
ralph_hey anyone familiar with dialog in bash under ubuntu??18:18
llutz_ePirat: q18:19
llutz_ePirat: "sudo mkfs.ext4 -m0 /dev/sdb1"18:19
idontgetthisKBentley57: any ideas?18:19
ePiratllutz_, how can u remember all those commands?18:20
KBentley57idontgetthis:  read this:  https://lwn.net/Articles/100978/  it would seem that the swappiness setting can be finiky18:20
llutz_ePirat: 16 yrs time to learn :)18:20
ePiratllutz_, ok it finished18:20
ralph_mugging makes it happen ,LOL18:20
llutz_ePirat: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt18:20
JLuci have many partitions on my disk. With grub they appear in this order : 2 for ubuntu 11.04,  2 for memtest,  2 for windows, 2 for mageia). But none is empty. I dont how how to empty ubuntu partitions so as to install 11.10 on it since it has no name when i look through windows disk manager. How can I be sure 11.10 install on right partition ?18:20
ePiratllutz_, done :)18:21
llutz_ePirat:  "sudo cp -ax /home/ /mnt"18:21
randoulfhello good fellas, will radeon hd 6xxx series work with ubuntu 11.10 or am I to face a series of random X crashes?18:21
llutz_ePirat: no need for tar since we have a linux-fs now18:21
ralph_Jluc use diskpart utility in windows 7 and bcd edit18:21
ralph_:)18:22
idontgetthisKBentley57: that article, though interesting, only seems to complain about the problem and shows various tests and results they got18:22
carlosarlido you know why when my computer goes stand by my screen shut down and i cant switch on it again? it happens also when i restart the computer: the computer restarts, but the screen remains black. when i had the 11.04 that didn't happen! anyway if there are any english mistakes... sorry but I'm italian:)18:22
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ePiratllutz_, k it's copying right now :)18:22
bindiWhen using ubuntu server, what's the best way of blocking certain countries from accessing it totally?18:22
idontgetthisKBentley57: but really, that is bullshit isn't it? you ask the kernel to not use swap and it does it anyway18:22
escottJLuc, use gparted on the livecd18:22
ePiratllutz_, can I open the hdd on my mac or only on ubuntu/linux now?18:22
idontgetthisKBentley57: i am hesitant to just destroy that partition18:22
KBentley57idontgetthis:  How much swap space is it using?18:23
llutz_ePirat:  i don't know if OS X can read ext418:23
JLucthe ubuntu partitions seem to have no name when looked at through windows (except windows one)...18:23
idontgetthisKBentley57: it was using it all (256 MB)18:23
JLuci try your hints howevr18:23
idontgetthisKBentley57: i had to kill off all my PDF viewers and other media players to get swap to not be used18:23
KBentley57idontgetthis:  Care to explain the program you were using, or what situation leads to full swap utilization?18:23
idontgetthisKBentley57: okular, vlc18:23
FreezingColdAlright, I need to get this stupid webcam working again.  It was working before I updated Ubuntu, now it doesn't work anymore18:24
FreezingColdvx-3000 linux18:24
KBentley57idontgetthis:  just using those eats 1 GB of ram and 256 MB of swap?18:24
idontgetthisKBentley57: 2 instances of okular, 1 instance of vlc (feynman lectures full pdf and david griffiths quantum physics djvu with my annotations and vlc with feynman's lectures on physics audio)18:24
idontgetthisKBentley57: not 1 GB of RAM, just 256 MB of swap18:24
idontgetthisKBentley57: and from a user's standpoint, my computer is unusable at that point18:25
KBentley57idontgetthis:  I see, physics major also btw?  What ubuntu are you using?18:25
idontgetthisKBentley57: i'm running practically nothing otherwise... fluxbox... xterm, that's it really18:25
zykotick9idontgetthis, you do understand (which you obviously don't) that swap makes your system faster right?  If you only have 1GB RAM that's your main issue, not the swap.18:25
idontgetthisKBentley57: EE grad student trying to learn physics to make cool nanoscale devices18:25
idontgetthisKBentley57: not using ubuntu actually. using archlinux, but i can't get into #archlinux or ##linux without registering and too lazy to do that18:26
idontgetthiszykotick9: lol, you don't know what you're talking about18:26
llutz_zykotick9: swap makes nothing faster, it just prevents apps from being killed when they run out of memory18:26
FreezingColdidontgetthis, what's the issue?18:26
KBentley57idontgetthis:  grad student?  I thought we were all grad slaves..lol.18:26
RoastedIs anybody familiar with grabbing an ISO off of a DVD? I have a live concert here on DVD I want in digital format on my HTPC but I keep erroring out with it.18:26
kontagioushow do i view a log file as it gets edited in terminal?18:26
zykotick9llutz, actually that is incorrect, the kernel will cache to swap to free physical memory for more important things (if physical memory is low)18:26
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Roastedkontagious, like syslog?18:26
ePiratllutz_, than you very very much for your help :)18:27
Roastedkontagious, I use tail -f /var/log/syslog18:27
carlosarlinobody knows?18:27
llutz_ePirat: np18:27
ePiratllutz_, do you have a flattr account?18:27
llutz_ePirat: nope18:27
kontagiousRoasted, thank you!! how do i display my running log file for httpd? tail -f /var/log/httpd/logs/error_log ?18:27
KBentley57idontgetthis:  what other hardware are you running?  Just trying to get a feel of your pc18:27
Roastedkontagious, tail -f is the key. whatever the log file is is where the path goes. I just use it for syslog a lot so thats why my example was /var/log/syslog :)18:28
idontgetthisFreezingCold: with just 2 instances of okular and 1 of vlc, swap is fully used, but memory is barely used (~150 MB roughly of 1 GB) and my system is unusable. kill all 3 of those applications gets it to work18:28
kontagiousRoasted, thank you very much :)18:28
Roastedkontagious, no problem!18:28
ralph_use firewalls kiddo,easy to implement,bindi18:28
ralph_;)18:28
idontgetthisKBentley57: i can post lshw if you want, but i think it's really telling that without those three applications running all at once, i have swap fully used18:29
KBentley57idontgetthis:  I suppose you could compile your own kernel without swap support and try that out?18:29
KBentley57idontgetthis:  Then boot to the previous kernel if stuff gets crazy18:29
idontgetthisKBentley57: i think a better understanding can be had from seeing what i did recently... this computer has been on for days (just hibernate when i leave lab and hibernate when i leave home). i left vlc and okular on overnight. if there was a memory leak then it would explain high memory usage... but where increasing swap usage comes from with time makes no sense...18:30
Darkenvycan somone help me with crontab?18:30
idontgetthisKBentley57: i could, but i have a life :p18:30
llutz_zykotick9: and since swap usually resides on horrible slow harddrives, it won't "speed up" anything18:30
KBentley57idontgetthis:  as an EE grad student?  Lies!18:30
RoastedIs handbrake available on 11.10 yet?18:31
escott!help | Darkenvy18:31
ubottuDarkenvy: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:31
idontgetthisKBentley57: well i don't consider compiling a kernel much fun. there's a lot simpler approaches i could take... i could destroy the swap partition and then reinstate it later18:31
rawfodogI had 2 OS's on my computer. I delete the other OS and I want ubuntu to be my primary. That went fine, except for that I still have grub when I boot my computer. How do I delete or hide grub ?18:31
idontgetthisKBentley57: also, making quantum cascade lasers is way more fun than ticking off "USB Mass Storage" support...18:31
Roastedrawfodog, grub is used to boot ubuntu. what OS is left on this computer? ubuntu?18:31
escottrawfodog, you cant delete grub, but you can hide it in /etc/default/grub18:31
rawfodogRoasted, ubuntu18:31
Darkenvyescott, yes but I desire a conversation18:32
TheEvilPhoenixrawfodog:  you need to have grub.  Boot into Ubuntu, run `sudo update-grub2`18:32
Roastedrawfodog, without grub, ubuntu won't boot.18:32
TheEvilPhoenixrawfodog:  Grub doesnt autoupdate after you change things on the partitions18:32
KBentley57idontgetthis:  read through this too, it looks as if you may be able to turn swap off https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Swap  Try # swapoff -a18:32
zykotick9llutz, idontgetthis perhaps you should both see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq - or check for some of Linus' comments about swap/virtual memory.18:32
TheEvilPhoenixrawfodog:  you need to manually update grub - once it detects only Ubuntu, it will probably skip the prompts18:32
escottDarkenvy, you aren't going to get one unless you explain your question first, because nobody knows if they can answer it until you ask18:32
idontgetthisKBentley57: i guess it's not a problem any more. i am wasting time. but hey thanks for the conversation and the links. i appreciate it. take care man18:32
maxagazare there widgets in gnome-shell ? if yes, how to use/configure it ?18:32
Darkenvyfine: I accidently had my crontab execute a backup once every minute causing my VPS to corrupt. How can I make my backups occure once every 3 hours and once every 12 hours respectively?18:32
rawfodogGenerating grub.cfg ...18:33
rawfodogFound linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-12-generic-pae18:33
rawfodogFound initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.0.0-12-generic-pae18:33
rawfodogFound linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-11-generic-pae18:33
rawfodogFound initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-11-generic-pae18:33
FloodBot1rawfodog: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:33
rawfodogFound memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin18:33
RoastedDoes anybody know if Handbrake is available for Ubuntu 11.10 yet? I'm getting errors on the PPA :(18:33
Darkenvycrontab : "* 1 * * * <command>" apparently means once a minute because thats what it did18:33
MenthaneGuys in the prevouos gnome that came with Ubuntu you could change the current themes colour (like the selected colour and the window background colour) how'd you do that in Unity?18:34
persu#backtrack-pl18:34
llutz_zykotick9: did you? i guess no18:34
escottDarkenvy, 0 /3 * * *18:34
zykotick9llutz, particularly the "Optimizing memory usage" section18:34
tonyyarussorawfodog: You can not delete grub, but you can hide it and make it faster.  If you look in /etc/default/grub you will find a few different settings, include some "timeout" values and "hidden" directives.  Setting those properly will allow you to make grub instantly boot Ubuntu rather than bringing up the menu and waiting a few seconds.  You will need to run update-grub after making any changes to that file to apply them.18:34
Darkenvyccan you please explain this escott?18:34
Darkenvydoesnt using a number without the backslash mean time? like "0 1 * * * *" = every day at 01:00?18:35
idontgetthisKBentley57: i forgot to mention... my original request is somewhat foolish... "what program can i execute to find out what is overloading my system?"... sure how am i going to execute it? i guess it'll have to be intelligent guesswork to figure it out in the future as well. i should get a bigger hard drive and more memory down the line, but being below the poverty line and constantly forced to make do is the story of my li18:35
escottDarkenvy, 0 1-24/3 * * * means the 0th minute of hours 1-24 that are divisible by 3, every day every month every year18:35
tonyyarussorawfodog: I *think* the choice about automatically setting the hidden and timeout values based on whether other operating systems are detected is only done within the original installer, not update-grub instances later, although I could be wrong about that.18:35
escottDarkenvy, the second could be */3 which is the same as 1-24/318:36
joeC1Hi all! :-)  On MS Windows, we can do ALT+(whatever number) to achieve a desired character(s)...  What is the equivalent keystroke(s) for us ()Ubuntu users??18:36
Darkenvyescott: so it wont do time that isnt divisible by three? like the fourth hour? (because 4/3= 1.3333)18:36
skorehow can i hack?18:36
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skorejoke18:36
KBentley57idontgetthis:  I hear that man, however, large pdf's can bring a system down too, try document viewer if ockular isn't cutting it18:36
rawfodogthanks everyone18:36
idontgetthisdocument viewer?18:37
tonyyarussoidontgetthis: aka Evince18:37
teemperori think he mean evince18:37
tonyyarussoidontgetthis: (It's just labeled "Document Viewer" in the menus)18:37
idontgetthisoh okay i'll check it out18:37
R3db3ardtonyyarusso, which file in /etc/default/grub do i edit to hide the grub menu?18:37
Darkenvythanks escott, Ill be back in 3 hours if it doesnt work :)18:38
escottDarkenvy, it can if you want hours 2,5,8 etc you do 2-24/3. so its really m-H/M and it will run every hour h that satisfies (h mod M=m) and (h<=H)18:38
tonyyarussoR3db3ard: /etc/default/grub *is* a file, not a directory.18:38
zykotick9tonyyarusso, idontgetthis is using Arch - it could use different labels18:38
R3db3ardah18:38
tonyyarussozykotick9: ah.  Then why are they asking here?18:38
zykotick9tonyyarusso, beats me18:39
o_portista17does ubuntu 11.10 have any firewall by default?18:39
Darkenvyescott, so it will only operate on round numbers though? So as long as I check my equations and it equals a round number?18:39
escottDarkenvy, sorry thats not really right its L-H/M and it does hours L,L+M,L+2M,... until L+kM>H18:39
tonyyarussojoeC1: I believe you're looking for Alt+U, then the number, then enter.18:39
rumpel1o_portista17, no and you usually don't need one18:40
tonyyarussojoeC1: There's also a Character Map application that lets you search for and copy them.18:40
escottDarkenvy, if you want it to be on the half our set the minutes to 3018:40
Darkenvyright18:40
DarkenvyIm just verifying I understand this right :P18:40
Darkenvycool thanks escott18:40
joeC1ok, thank you tonyyarusso!18:40
o_portista17rumpel1, ok, thank u18:40
escottDarkenvy, I would just read the wiki page, thats all I'm doing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cron18:40
tonyyarussoo_portista17: Yes, there is a firewall installed.  No, it does not have any rules loaded by default.  However, it doesn't need any by default because there are not listening services that need protecting by default.  (ie, by default the ports are closed, rather than filtered)18:41
Darkenvyescott: I was actually here: http://corenominal.org/howto-setup-a-crontab-file/18:41
FreezingColdTrying to get my darn webcam to work, trying to compile gspca but I get: /tmp/gspcav1-20071224/gspca_core.c:37:26: fatal error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory18:41
pycoderfdoes anyone know why ubuntu 11.10 server would stop accepting ssh connections from putty18:41
Darkenvyand ive been google searching but I thought to myself 'f*** it, IRC' lol18:41
escottIn 2003 on the 11th to 26th of each month in January to June every third minute starting from 2 past 1am, 9am and 10pm "2-59/3 1,9,22 11-26 1-6 ? 2003"18:41
innobluepycoderf: did you check your sshd_config file?18:41
pycoderfinnoblue: yes it has been working and i didnt change anything. i was testing dhcp configs but when i set it back to my network it didnt work18:42
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varuncan anybody please tell me on what channel i can learn/ask about SimpleScalar? :)18:42
MyrttiDarkenvy: mind the language, please :-)18:42
tonyyarussopycoderf: perhaps your sshd is listening on the wrong network and confused by the changes?  Does a restart (of the service or machine) fix it?18:42
pycoderftonyyarusso: no it does not i did not specify an address18:43
escott!alis | varun18:43
ubottuvarun: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu*18:43
R3db3ardtonyyarusso, thanks for that, i'd been needing to do that for a while. [hiding the grub at startup]18:43
DarkenvyMyrtti, I did thats why I self-censored18:43
DarkenvyI actually said "Flac-It" as in "give me those lossless music files"18:44
innoblueuhm so... anyone here familiar with i2p or know what irc room might be actually helpful in learing to config it?18:44
tonyyarussopycoderf: what's your output of `netstat -lt` look like?18:44
babblehey all: in Gnome Shell, is there a setting I'm missing to change the color of the text font for desktop items?18:44
pycoderftonyyarusso: what line did you need?18:44
babble(Gnome 3 gnome-shell)18:45
pycoderfproto was tcp and tcp618:45
tonyyarussopycoderf: grep for ssh, then either tcp or tcp6 depending on how you're trying to access it.  (tcp6 is the IPv6 version)18:45
pycoderfim using ipv4 andonly those two shows up when i did netstat -lt18:46
escottbabble, try either "dconf-editor" it might be in there18:46
tonyyarussopycoderf: 'k, then just the tcp line.18:46
pycoderfwhen i do ls /proc | grep ssh nothing shows up but the service is running18:46
babbleah, I can hunt through dconf. hehe.18:47
escottpycoderf, it won't show up as a directory entry in /proc do you mean ps aux | grep18:47
tonyyarussopycoderf: ls /proc wouldn't show you anything.18:47
tonyyarusso(for that)18:47
pycoderfok ps aux | grep ssh shows it18:47
pycoderfso its running18:47
tonyyarussopycoderf: can you paste the tcp netstat line?18:48
pycoderftonyyarusso: its not showing in netstat18:48
pycoderfand i cant the machine is virtual and i cant get files fromit18:48
tonyyarussopycoderf: eh?  I thought you just said it was a moment ago?18:48
escottpycoderf, have you looked at the putty log of the conversation. thats the best place to start18:48
pycoderftonyyarusso: netstat shows nothing really, but ps aux shows sshd running18:48
nullm0demhello, i have had this issue and have now run into another with the same. When transfering to a stock WD external drive formatted with NTFS directories trees and some files transfer. when viewing the drive everything looks as if the transfer went ok. but upon reinstalling the os and accessing the drive the transfer is incomplete. this si also after safely removeing the drive.18:48
pycoderfthis has been working all morning now it wont connect18:49
tonyyarussopycoderf: well, that line would be short enough to type manually.  It should look something like this:  tcp  0  0  *:ssh  *:*  LISTEN18:49
pycoderfneither line in netstat -lt shows ssh18:50
padmickhi18:50
tonyyarussopycoderf: what do they show in that fourth field?18:50
escottnullm0dem, the reinstall seems a red-herring. copy the files, eject the drive, plug it back in. are the files still there18:50
padmickcan any 1 help me??18:50
pycoderflocal address *:220018:50
escott!help | padmick18:50
ubottupadmick: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:50
tonyyarussopycoderf: Are you running ssh on port 2200, or port 22?18:50
pycoderf220018:51
padmicksorry18:51
tonyyarussookay, that's why then.  So it is listening properly.18:51
tonyyarussopycoderf: and you get no response whatsoever when you try to connect, correct?18:51
pycoderfit says it times out but i can ping the vm just fine and ping the host from the vm18:51
escottpycoderf, do you have a firewall running18:52
pycoderfon my host yes but it has not interfered all morning18:52
padmickim using wubi and every time 1 try to start ubuntu all i get is a purple screen can any 1 help?18:52
nullm0demescott: no there have been several reboots. i am assuming the files never transfered but remained in tmp. i accessed essential files from what i thought was the external and they displayed fine. this was a month ago i am in another channel trying to help someone with the same issue18:52
wmoxamIf I were to buy an SSD, what would be the best way to transfer my Ubuntu install over to it?18:52
FreezingColdWhere the heck did =/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so go?!18:53
elgatonwmoxam: booting from an Ubuntu CD and copying the files from the old drive to the new one18:53
FreezingColdI NEED that file!18:53
pycoderfi just added the mac address to the exceptions list of my firewall. no change18:53
tonyyarussopycoderf: do you see any useful entries in /var/log/auth.log?18:53
wmoxamelgaton: oh, so the CD has an option to copy everything over?18:53
padmickdoes anyone here use wubi?18:54
escottnullm0dem, that sounds strange to say the least, but i guess i can imagine a way it might happen, but it should be very easy to verify. plug in the drive. check the output of mount to figure out where it is mounted. browse to that location. eject the drive, check mount again. verify the folder is now emptied18:54
elgatonwmoxam: no, you will need to start Ubuntu from the CD and choose to "Run Ubuntu now". Open a terminal, mount the old and the new disks from there, then use the "cp" command to copy the contents.18:54
pycoderfok for some reason it stopped binding to an address18:55
pycoderfsays "fatal: cannot bind to any address"18:55
elgatonwmoxam: You can also use the standard file manager from the Ubuntu CD.18:55
nullm0demescott:18:55
tonyyarussopycoderf: intriguing.  And that error persists through a 'service ssh restart'?18:55
escottpadmick, not a lot of wubi users here. im afriad. the purple screen, can you tell if it is grub, or is it plymouth? ie is it after you selected to boot to wubi or before? If it is after have you tried pressing the up arrow?18:55
pycoderfi just have itthe ip of eth0 and am restarting servicenow18:55
wmoxamelgaton: AFAICT the ssd won't be bootable if I do that18:56
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padmickits grub i think18:56
padmickwhat does the up arrow do?18:56
nullm0demescott: i will have him try, i did try that when i encountered the issue. he has the same WD drive. i have never experienced this before with any other type of media18:56
froqUbuntu seems to really getting sluggish on my computer, is there any applications/ etc out there to increase efficiency?18:56
glebihan!find /usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so | FreezingCold18:56
ubottuFreezingCold: Package/file /usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so does not exist in oneiric18:56
escottpadmick, in plymouth the up arrow drops you back to the framebuffer so you can see kernel messages18:56
pycoderfservice restarted stillno connection18:56
FreezingColdI found out they moved it to LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so!18:56
FreezingCold*remove the LD_PRELOAD18:57
FreezingColdBut my damn webcam still won't work!18:57
wmoxamelgaton: and I'd guess that the fstab config would be wrong18:57
tonyyarussopycoderf: still the error also?  You might try doing 'invoke-rc.d networking restart', then restart ssh again, and if it's still not happy take a look at your sshd_config.18:57
escottpadmick, its helpful if there is some kind of issue with the hardware as you can usually see what is causing the kernel to get stuck. if the problem is grub not being able to find the wubi image file on the ntfs partition that i have no idea how to help with, except to suggest not using wubi18:57
pycoderfmy sshd_config has notbeen changed18:57
FreezingColdMan, I need to get this working, my family is flipping out on me cause the webcam doesn't work...18:58
padmickescott, whats happing is18:58
pycoderftonyyarusso: still not working18:58
elgatonelgaton: sorry, forgot to add that you will need to run "sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/newSSDmountpoint/boot/grub". For the fstab issue, I thought you would connect the SSD in place of the existing drive (using the same connector on the motherboard that was used for the original drive) and connect the old drive to a new connector.18:59
pycoderfshould i uninstall and reinstall ssh18:59
elgatonwmoxam: sorry, forgot to add that you will need to run "sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/newSSDmountpoint/boot/grub". For the fstab issue, I thought you would connect the SSD in place of the existing drive (using the same connector on the motherboard that was used for the original drive) and connect the old drive to a new connector.18:59
escottFreezingCold, before you start dealing with i386 and v4lcompat does it work with cheese18:59
tonyyarussopycoderf: could you recap for us what DID change?18:59
FreezingColdescott, no.... I think I need to install v4lcompat again or something18:59
FreezingColdBecause the module is gone\18:59
elgatonwmoxam: The latest versions of Ubuntu use UUIDs in the fstab file - you'll just need to find the new one (the one of the SSD) and replace it.19:00
pycoderftonyyarusso: well i tested a dhcp configuration, this vm is to test the config for a dhcp server i am goign to be building. when a config failed i set it back to the bridged network in vmware and gave it a static ip19:00
wmoxamelgaton: kk19:00
padmickok is there ant way i can break down the partation and retreve the files? i need them and then repair wubi19:00
pycoderfi can ping to and from it with my host19:00
escottFreezingCold, the v4lcompat is only for older applications like skype. you shouldnt need it for a modern application like cheese19:00
FreezingColdescott, well I need to get skype working later, but sure, let's try to get it working in cheese first19:00
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FreezingCold** (cheese:5688): WARNING **: Error starting streaming on device '/dev/video0'.19:01
escottpadmick, AFAIK the wubi image file is just an ext4 file you can loopmount. so boot your livecd and loop mount the wubi image file19:01
FreezingColdThe light actually started coming on for a second but flicks off19:01
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tonyyarussopycoderf: did the interface name change when you did that?19:02
pycoderfno19:02
padmick? am im new to this so if u could simpifly what u are sayin that would be great19:02
escottFreezingCold, so webcams can be finicky. i would remove it if you can/reboot if it is built in19:02
tonyyarussopycoderf: also, I assume you're sure this is the only system using that IP address, and you didn't dual-assign ;)19:02
FreezingColdescott, sorry, remove what?19:02
pycoderfyes i am sure19:02
pycoderfi even switched it to dhcp from static and same issue19:02
escottFreezingCold, the webcam. ie unplug the usb. if you cant reboot to have it reinitialize19:03
FreezingColdescott, done that 100 times by now19:03
FreezingColdThe crap still doesn't work19:03
escottFreezingCold, in case the v4lcompat stuff you were playing with has confused the webcam firmware19:03
FreezingColdIt's a vx-3000 btw19:03
padmickescott, could u simpifly what u are saying to me thanks19:04
FreezingColdI'm rebuilding v4l-dvb right now, after that I'll retry rebooting for the 101th time :P19:04
escottpadmick, wubi has a file which is an image file of the contents of wubi's / partition. the livecd can mount the ntfs partition to /media/NTFS or something, and then you can loop mount (just a fancy way to say mount this file as if it were a device) the wubi image file to /media/wubi19:04
escottpadmick, then you can recover your data/move it outside the wubi image file to the ntfs partition and have it accessible under windows19:05
tonyyarussopycoderf: okay, try this:  STOP the ssh server (no restart), run netstat again, and see if it still shows something listening on 2200.  Oh, and I also assume you are specifying that port number from your client, obviously.19:05
pycoderfyeah port is set19:05
escottFreezingCold, you might also want to check the v4l website to see if there are any known regressions with your hardware19:06
FreezingColdescott, it WAS working until I upgrade Ubuntu19:06
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FreezingCold*upgraded19:07
pycoderffor some reason the openssh-server package is broken so it wont remove or install. any ideaS? i may just restart the whole vm19:07
K4kI'm attempting to hook my computer up to my TV. I'm seeing the TV to show as an available display however. I'm using the Intel GMA video chipset, can someone try and help me with this please?19:08
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K4ker..I'm NOT able to see the TV as a display***19:08
padmickim sorry escott but i am a true beginner so if u could explain how to mount using a live cd and where i can find nfts and how to make it windows acceptable19:08
pycoderfi think this will be much easier to reinstall the vm19:09
LuciferoI need to test a simple script-fu for gimp, anyone can help?19:09
pycoderfwaste of time at this point in fixing it. thanksfor the help19:09
tonyyarussopycoderf: Did a dpkg get interrupted somehow?  Restarting the VM might help, but might not.  I say go for it and see.19:09
padmickbut i need the files19:09
escottpadmick, best to wait until you have booted the livecd then we can walk you through it.19:10
padmickproblem there ive only got 1 pc19:11
OnkeltemHow can I change umask for a PHP script (which I can't edit) running from using CLI?19:11
Onkeltems/using//19:12
pkkmIs the GNOME Color Manager going to make my whole desktop or just color-managed applications display in correct colors on a wide-gamut monitor?19:12
padmickcan 1 access irc on a live boot?19:12
ugurHi!19:12
ugurIs there anybody who uses unity panel transparent ?19:12
IMRANi want sexy girl for chatting19:12
IMRANANY ONE HERE19:13
froqugur, never heard of it. wha tis uit?19:13
idontgetthislol in #ubuntu19:13
IMRANI WANT HOT GIRL TO CHAT19:13
IMRANANY?19:13
tonyyarussoIMRAN: This is a support channel.19:13
IMRANOH SORRY19:13
idontgetthisIMRAN: how would allah feel about your behavior?19:13
updhei, i  have one problem, becouse of this stupid new gnome 3.0 there is no shutdown options, what i wan't to do is thet my laptop is closed will shutdown how can i do that ?19:13
padmickgo away imran19:13
Guest2919IMRAN: wtf?19:13
IMRANHMMM19:13
tonyyarussoupd: Hold the Alt key.  Shutdown will magically appear.19:13
jasoxIMRAN, get lost19:14
IMRANU R RIGHT19:14
escottpadmick, you may have to install a client, but yes as long as you can get online you can get to irc from the livecd19:14
tonyyarussoupd: oh, automatically on lid close?  No idea.19:14
IMRANSORRY19:14
idontgetthislol religion still good for controlling the masses19:14
escottupd, try the power settings19:14
IMRANOK19:14
tonyyarussoidontgetthis: That's not helpful either.19:14
IMRANTHIS CHANEEL IS FOR?19:14
padmickok ill be back once i get in though my live cd19:14
tMH-imran: ever heard of linux?19:14
tonyyarussoIMRAN: Ubuntu support.  Do you have an Ubuntu question?19:14
IMRANYES19:14
tMH-and - turn off capslock, MORON.19:15
IMRANok19:15
updtonyyarusso: yes, when lid is closed, i try under power settings but there is only suspend and hibernate options, but in previous gnome there was also shutdown options19:15
IMRANi knowubunto19:15
escottupd, nevermind not an option there. there are extensions for shell to have the shutdown option19:15
tMH-so ubuntu is linux.19:15
IMRANok19:15
IMRANgood19:15
tMH-pretty _strange_ place to seek gals19:15
IMRANthanis19:15
IMRANtake care19:15
IMRANbye19:15
FloodBot1IMRAN: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:15
updescott: so i  have to install those externsions ?19:15
nullm0demyes ubuntu is linux19:15
escottupd, yes19:15
adham_ykhhiiiiiiii19:16
updescott: aha okey thanks19:16
adham_ykhanybody here?19:16
tMH-btw, I did install xubuntu on p3-733/512mb ram PC, now update manager offers total upgrade to 11.10 version. I suppose to _not_ upgrade - otherwise this oldie hardware will lay down off the resources..19:16
BluesKajnope just 1606 hiding from you19:17
JasonntMH-: what version do yo uhave atm?19:17
tMH-Jasonn - lemme see, wait19:17
tonyyarussoJasonn: He has to have 11.04 or he wouldn't be offered 11.10.19:18
Jasonntonyyarusso: yeah, thought so too, but since I dont use ubuntu...19:18
JasonntMH-: go for it, if 11.04 doesnt crash it, 11.10 wont either :)19:18
escotttMH-, if you are using unity-2d that is still available in 11.1019:19
peterwiejaczka:)19:20
tMH-Jasonn - how to check out exact version?:)))19:20
tMH-uname will give out kernel ver etc..19:20
tMH-escott - xfce is in use..19:20
tonyyarussotMH-: lsb_release -a19:20
tMH-tonyyarusso - ok, will do now.19:21
tMH-w819:21
BluesKajlsb_release -a should19:21
JasonntMH-: You have 11.04, otherwise you wont be able to upgrade to 11.1019:21
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tMH-Description:    Ubuntu 11.0419:21
tMH-Release:        11.0419:21
tMH-Jasonn - yeah...19:21
virus_jpghowdy!19:21
tMH-Jasonn - will this upgrade keep xfce window manager or will install unity etc?19:22
JasonntMH-: I dont know if xubuntu has unity..19:22
tMH-Jasonn - I hope it hasn't;)19:22
aleksandrplease help19:23
JasonntMH-: :p19:23
GalvatronWait at least untill christmas, so Ubu 11.10 will be debugged and made usable enough.19:23
escott!help | aleksandr19:23
ubottualeksandr: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:23
aleksandrIn my computer, one hard drive on it once stood vindovz and the disk was divided into two parts, one of which served as a repository of useful information. Now, I put Linux during the installation, among other things, the installation program under Linux, I was asked to attach to the file system of the disk, which is the repository of personal files. In the installation window was entered a few names for such a disc (folder) to give a name invented by19:24
aleksandrme, it was not possible and I took the folder name (dos), so this part of the disk and I called. Now, for unknown reasons, have changed the folder permissions, as a result I can not create new folders in it, and move files to it.19:24
GalvatrontMH: Thre's no need to ruch, quite likely straight into trouble. Firt try it on a separate partotion to make sure it works fine enough for you.19:25
Galvatron*rush19:25
r0dr1g0Hi, guys. I can't mount my cdrom drive: mount: no medium found on /dev/sr019:25
curiousxaloha =P19:26
truemanGuys I have a question, I don't like Unity so I want to make the switch, should I go with Linux mint, or Xubuntu19:26
AndroidLoverInSFGalvatron: till xmas? it takes that long to make it 11.10 stable?19:26
AndroidLoverInSFtrueman: you can try kde, it works pretty fine19:27
quidnunc!nounity > trueman19:27
ubottutrueman, please see my private message19:27
quidnunc!nounity trueman19:27
quidnunc!nounity | trueman19:27
ubottutrueman: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic19:27
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nullm0demAnyone have any experience with those pico projectors?19:27
truemanyeah, I know It has shell, but for me it still isnt like the ubuntu classic.  Is there another way which I can restore it fully to the classical ubuntu?19:28
escottaleksandr, if your native language is not english you might want to try your native language channel. i cant understand what you just said19:28
quidnunctrueman: gnome fallback mode19:29
GalvatronAndroidLoverInSF: Might take shorter or longer. My point is simply not to rush, especially with making it the primary system.19:29
nac-godfatherLinux Mint still looks the same and so does LMDE19:29
truemanquidnunc: Will that fully bring it back to the old ubuntu classic just like the classic option in 11.04?19:30
nac-godfatherI was actually trying to change to gnome-shell gnome3 last night, but killed my LMDE install19:30
Galvatronnac-godfather: 11.10-based Mint is yet to come, with support both for GNOMe 2/Mate and GNOME 319:30
truemanquidnunc: I tried that but it still was diffrent.19:31
Galvatronnac-godfather: I've already made a few approached to GNOME Shell, both with 11.04 and 11.10, and all failed.19:32
Galvatronnac-godfather: In most cases I ended up without X19:32
persu2how to register?19:32
GalvatronRegister what?19:33
escott!register | persu219:33
ubottupersu2: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode19:33
AndroidLoverInSFi wanted to like linux mint, but prefer ubuntu for now. my desktop is 11.10 with both unity and kde. but my primary (laptop) still on 10.10 but maybe upgrade soon. maybe once you open up most of your apps, you wont have to fiddle with the silly unity as much. maybe bearable19:33
persu2!register | persu219:33
ubottupersu2, please see my private message19:33
persu2 /msg persu2 help19:34
nac-godfatherWell I was going to attempt again today, by simply adding SID's experimental repos to LMDE and then do a dist-upgrade and maybe gnome-shell, but have you already tried that as well Galvatron?19:34
o_portista17on ubuntu 11.10 i can't install "panflute-applet" , is there any other app like that one to control amarok?19:35
escottnac-godfather, Galvatron can you please take the mint related discussion to #mint19:35
GalvatronAndroidLoverInSF: You can safely make Ubuntu into Mint (and the other way round), by simply adding Mint repos to the list, updating the system and installing the whole Mint stuff,19:35
Galvatronescott: Since it's pretty much the same, with a very slight difference...19:36
escotto_portista17, panel applets are pretty much gone in 11.10 unity/gnome319:36
ugur 19:36
escottGalvatron, this is an ubuntu support channel. we don't support mint here19:36
scottjI added a ppa for latest emacs (package emacs-snapshot) but when I apt-get update/upgrade/install eamcs-snapshot it does't update it and I noticed during update it says Ign for the repo instead of Hit. ideas?19:36
o_portista17escott, i'm not using unity...19:36
Wolfsherzhello, how can i start the control panel from the console?19:37
bastidrazorscottj, apt-cache policy emacs-snapshot   pastebin the output19:37
Galvatronescott: The difference between Ubuntu-based mint and normal Ubuntu is just a few programs and artwork, so technically it's one and the same thing.19:37
nac-godfathermint mint mint linux-mint!  woohoo!19:37
escott!mint > Galvatron19:37
ubottuGalvatron, please see my private message19:37
Galvatronescott: OK19:38
Galvatronescott: Sorry19:38
escotto_portista17, what are you using then19:38
Wolfsherzi need to get to the system settings somehow. unity does not start correctly after deselecting the fglrx-driver.19:38
CarlFKWolfsherz: gnome-control-center19:39
escottWolfsherz, did you remove your /etc/X11/xorg.conf after removing the proprietary drivers?19:39
scottjbastidrazor: http://pastebin.com/rZGqEbsW19:39
Galvatronscottj: Make sure the repo contains packages dedicated for ypur system version.19:39
Wolfsherzescott: not by hand... i used the control center19:39
gnumuxhola19:40
bastidrazorscottj, you did an apt-get update before the apt-cache command?19:40
jc_benji_mxsaludos19:40
Wolfsherzescott: do you think that will solve my issues?19:40
o_portista17escott, gnome-session-fallback and installed gnome-panel19:40
scottjbastidrazor: yeah19:40
jc_benji_mxdesde mexico19:40
scottjGalvatron: it does I'm lucid and this is the repo https://launchpad.net/~cassou/+archive/emacs19:40
escottWolfsherz, if you aren't using proprietary drivers there should not be an xorg.conf so make sure there isnt one19:40
gnumuxdesde Paraguay19:40
bastidrazorscottj, that result shows apt-get is not seeing emacs-snapshot from the ppa19:40
scottjdesde chilangolandia19:40
escotto_portista17, fallback != classic19:40
escott!notunity | o_portista1719:41
ubottuo_portista17: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic19:41
jc_benji_mxnecesito ayuda Uregentemente con trendnet usb wireless19:41
jc_benji_mxalquien puede ayudarme??19:41
Wolfsherzescott: there is no xorg.conf19:41
Galvatronscottj: try aptitude (sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade) instead of the whole apt-xxx stuff.19:41
persu2 wpisz /query nickserv19:41
LargePrimeDear Sirs; I disabled/removed my proprietary graphics driver.  Upon reboot, no graphics.  ubuntu 11.10.  Thoughts (besides I am a moron)??19:41
jc_benji_mxes para alquien que se inicia en ubuntu19:41
escotto_portista17, gnome-session-fallback does not support applets. it is NOT gnome2 based, and it does NOT have a panel as you are accustomed to one19:41
escott!es | jc_benji_mx19:41
ubottujc_benji_mx: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.19:41
WolfsherzLargePrime: same problem here19:42
Galvatronscottj: You can install aptitude with "sudo apt-get install aptitude".19:42
jc_benji_mxok gracias19:42
scottjGalvatron: tried it, no diff19:42
LargePrimeok Wolf, i'll leach your fix19:42
escottWolfsherz, what does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log say19:42
Galvatronscottj: Then maybe try uninstalling emacs and installing it again, to see from where the new version will be taken.19:44
scottjGalvatron: bastidrazor: when I apt-get update all the ppa.lunchpad.net lines that have a /user/reponame give Ign, could that be part of it?19:44
Galvatronscottj: I doubt19:44
o_portista17escott, i also have install gnome-shell ;x19:44
Wolfsherzescott: there seems to be no error in that log... well the graphical interface is starting, but there is just the background image... from there how do i invoke the control panel?19:44
scottjGalvatron: removing/reinstalling didn't help19:44
escotto_portista17, i don't care what you have installed/will install the applets are gone19:45
o_portista17ok, thanks19:45
Galvatronscottj: Have you tried removing the PPA from /etc/apt/sources.list.d and re-adding it?19:45
persu2hello:)19:45
escottWolfsherz, so X is starting but you dont have any kind of shell. ctrl-alt-f1 and export DISPLAY=:0 and then try unity --replace or gnome-shell --replace according to preference19:46
haylo_would someone please help me get this game running from tarball- this is the filefile:///home/haylo/downloads/sauerbraten_2010_07_28_justice_edition_linux.tar.bz219:46
escotthaylo_, i think that game is in the repos19:46
scottjGalvatron: just tried, no change :(19:47
Katadorbuenas19:47
Katadorboa tarde19:47
haylo_i know but i want to have the latest releases i have usd the software center before but all linux users in game use tarball version19:47
escott!br | Katador19:47
ubottuKatador: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.19:47
LargePrimeWolfsherz: how did you get it to have any graphics19:48
escottLargePrime, what graphics driver did you disable. nvidia or ati19:48
WolfsherzLargePrime: it just came up with only my background-image19:48
LargePrimenvidia.19:48
escottLargePrime, make sure there isn't a /etc/X11/xorg.conf19:48
LargePrimehow?  I have nothing on boot19:49
escottLargePrime, ctrl-alt-f119:49
scottjGalvatron: how do I check to make sure the repo supports amd64?19:49
Wolfsherzescott: i used export display to open a gnome-control center with sudo. now re-activating the fglrx-driver19:49
AndroidLoverInSFi dont like the unity panel. it shows the frequent apps installed inline with open active apps, makes it more difficult to see whats open as they're mixed together along that panel19:50
Katadorops19:50
haylo_i just need to open a tar ball- will this channel gibe support to this linux related task?19:50
upfwnv03haylo_ tar -xvf to extract contents or tar -tvf to see whats in the archive19:51
nikihrhey i need to restore my iphone with a ipsw file, cant find idevicerestore anywhere19:51
deadlin0xwhy does shoutcast not work in banshee?19:51
escotthaylo_, to a limited extent. tar -xjvf; ./configure --prefix=/opt; make; make install. please be sure to use a prefix19:51
pnormanDoes anyone know if it's possible to flash a SiI3124 based sata card (syba 40008) from ubuntu? I know it's possible to *use* it, but I can't find any info on flashing it to the non-raid bios19:51
Galvatronscottj: Click on "View package details" and unroll the package list, but I've just checked and it contains "amd64" packages.19:53
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padmickhi im back19:54
Roastedis libdvdcss included in medibuntu?19:54
GalvatronRoasted; Yes.19:54
RoastedGalvatron, k, I thought I remember libdvdcss being a separate package19:54
RoastedGalvatron, but I just installed medibuntu and didnt see libdvdcss or libdvdcss2 anywhere19:55
scottjGalvatron: well that answers it. you see the build status failed but only on the lucid repo19:55
GalvatronRoasted: But be warned that contents of "Medibuntu" are pretty much illegal stuff, partially pirated from Windows (win32 codecs).19:55
scottjGalvatron: thanks for your help19:55
Galvatron:)19:55
randoulfpirated! obscenity!19:55
RoastedGalvatron, libdvdcss is not though, is it?19:55
padmickcan any 1 help me with my broken wubi19:55
randoulfwe only use purified and sanctified software!19:56
RoastedGalvatron, besides, coming from windows, it's hard to feel bad. :P19:56
GalvatronRoasted: i'm afraid it's too. The fully legal stuff is what you have in restricted extras.19:56
Katador\19:56
RoastedGalvatron, so let me throw this on the table...19:56
RoastedGalvatron, I have a live concert DVD here I paid for. I'd like to rip it to my linux based HTPC.19:57
RoastedGalvatron, how can I legally do that?19:57
escottRoasted, ubuntu-restricted-extras and then for libdvdcss you have to run a script in /usr/share/libdvdcss and indicate that you are legally allowed to use dvdcss19:57
Wolfsherzescott: reinstalling the fglrx solved the issue. thank you for your help.19:57
RoastedI thought as long as you own the content you're ripping you're free to do so?19:57
GalvatronRoasted: You would have to purchase some commercial DVD player and/or the codecs themselves.19:58
escottRoasted, its a felony in the USA19:58
jtrucksis postfixadmin no longer in the stock repo? (v. 10.04 lts)19:58
Roastedescott, even if you OWN the DVD?19:58
s0neeRoasted: you dont own the content. just a copy of it.19:58
escottRoasted, yes. DMCA19:58
Roasteds093294, right. But I thought owning a copy of it entitled you the right o make a personal backup of it.19:58
GalvatronRoasted: You need a license for the DVD codecs19:59
RoastedGalvatron, is that where powerdvd comes in?19:59
escottRoasted, there are a number of rippers and encoders, but you have to run that libdvdcss install script by hand first19:59
padmickescott u probeally dont remember me but i was talking to u earlyer and u said u would help me with my wubi when i get my live cd workin so here i am19:59
s0neeRoasted: hmmm you bought a book doesnt mean you are free to duplicate and sell it. thats why they have a line that reads "Illegal copy of any parts of this book ..."19:59
GalvatronRoasted: Or other commercial programs like it ;)19:59
escottpadmick, yes. are you in the livecd19:59
s0neeRoasted: same for DVD.20:00
padmickya i am20:00
Roasteds0nee, good point, I suppose. That said, it's hard to give a damn. I want my library of live concert DVDs on my HTPC for a reason.20:00
pnormanMind you, a court might view it differently - I don't think there's a lot of case law around home users making copies for backups20:00
escottpadmick, open the file browser and find and click on the windows drive until you can see its contents20:00
Roastedpnorman, it's not even so much for backups. It's more for organization.20:00
karaguellekowdy20:00
s0neeRoasted: anyway i rip all of my music CDs but I keep it for myself. I dont distribute those20:01
GalvatronRoasted: I'm sorry, but this stuff - DVD codecs -  isn't a freeware and there is no free alternative.20:01
DJredstarhi, is there a way that i can separate pages of a PDF file into a separate document?20:01
Roasteds0nee, hahaha well yeah, I don't intend to upload these or burn copies and sell them out of my trunk :P20:01
padmickok got it what am i lookin for?20:01
Roasteds0nee, I just want themt digitized and on my HTPC for simplicity.20:01
s0neeRoasted: then you will be ok i guess20:01
Roasteds0nee, ironically at that point, the physical DVD I have of them becomes my "backup" (hdd in HTPC crashes, etc)20:01
escottRoasted, the point is that US law is ridiculous, and forces free software users to commit felonies, but canonical cannot take the legal risk of distributing software that actively infringes US law, so you have to run the script20:01
RoastedGalvatron, I understand. But again, it's hard to give a damn with something so ridiculous. I just wasn't aware it was *this* ridiculous.20:02
padmickwould it be in a folder called ubuntu escott?20:02
escottpadmick, now open a terminal and type "mount" it should tell you what folder the windows partition is mounted to20:02
Roastedescott, yeah, I definitely hear what pickle canonical is in. I remember reading about it prior, whcih is why medibuntu came about for users who are in countries where there are no codec restrictions.20:02
Roastedescott, so it's not to say it's illegal period. it's just illegal here in the US.20:02
DJredstarumm, is there a way that i can separate pages of a pdf file into a separate document?20:03
Roastedescott, but what script were you referring to again? Is this something pre-installed or is this part of the post-install of libdvdcss?20:03
s0neeRoasted: i understand. also buying digital copies limits how many times you can copy it i think20:03
escottpadmick, after you have identified where the windows partition is rooted to you can try and find the wubi image file. i don't know where that would be20:03
Roasteds0nee, buying digital copies?20:03
peterrooney_Roasted, it's even more ridiculous than that.20:03
Roastedpeterrooney_, I wouldn't doubt it. :P20:03
DJredstarcan someone help me?20:04
RoastedIs this to say that using Handbrake on Windows/OSX is legal whereas using Handbrake on Linux is not legal?20:04
padmickescott all i am seein is a hole lade of gibberish in the termal that makes no sence20:04
escottRoasted, yes not illegal everywhere just the US, but canonical has servers and employees in the US and so must follow US law. similar to how you have to click through and say you live in the US before being able to download stuff like ssh/gpg (maybe the NSA dropped that requirement)20:04
escottRoasted, in any case the file is in /usr/share/libdvd something20:04
escott!dvd | Roasted20:05
ubottuRoasted: Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats20:05
GalvatronRoasted: Ubuntu Restricted Extras contain stuff "problematic" in the us, but Medibuntu is a different story, since it contains thing not being a freeware under any circumstances - pirates, in other words.20:05
s0neeescott: Roasted i suggest if you want to discuss copyright stuffs, use private msg.20:05
RoastedGalvatron, I fail to see how ANYBODY at all is committing a crime by simply digitizing their already-owned media for viewing on other sources, such as a HTPC.20:05
RoastedGalvatron, which is where I have to pull the LOL card, as immature as that may sound.20:06
DJredstaris there a way that i can separate pages of a PDF file into a separate document!?20:06
escottpadmick, mount will output stuff like /dev/sda3 on /path/to/folder type whatever. the point is to figure out where the ntfs partition is mounted so we can later get the full path to the wubi image file20:06
pnormanMy personal view is that the courts would take a dim view of some of the more restrictive provisions if applied to home users, but until that case law takes place, canonical has to take a conservative view.20:06
escottpadmick, you don't have to use mount to figure that out20:06
Roastedpnorman, I'm not blaming canonical at all for that.20:06
Roastedpnorman, I'm just speaking from a general standpoint.20:06
DJredstarwhy is nobody helping me?!?!?!!20:06
s0neeRoasted: technically digitalizing that way is illegal. but no one knows that youre doing it20:07
Roastedescott, I see nothing about libdvdcss in /usr/share20:07
froqI just set up a windows VM and use dvdfab.20:07
GalvatronRoasted: As you buy any DVD player, you automatically purchase the codecs, which are a part of it. Not so with getting them from Medibuntu.20:07
ssfdre38how can i get dual screen working on my system20:07
froqssfdre38, you got an nvidia card or ati?20:07
RoastedGalvatron, right. I get that. But it sounds like it's not even legal to make your own personal backup copy even on a properly licensed codec machine to begin with.20:08
RoastedGalvatron, which begs the question - if I buy powerdvd, am I committing a felony by ripping a dvd I own?20:08
froqRoasted, I think you are sir!20:08
ssfdre38nvidia and i have the driver installed but xorg is putting a white screen on my second screen20:08
DJredstari only am asking a simple question: is there a way that i can separate pages in a PDF file into20:08
Roastedfroq, then sign me up for the state pen! :D20:08
DJredstara separate document using evince?!20:08
escottDJredstar, install poppler-utils and use some tools there20:09
froqRoasted, i agree... I have XBMC running on multple computers throughout the house with over 600 movies dl20:09
DJredstarthank you!20:09
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froqssfdre38, you need to use nvidia xserver.20:09
Roastedfroq, I get Canonical's pickle with it. They just want to play smart. I just don't see the big deal unless I turn around and upload it.20:09
RoastedBut wahtever, done deal.20:09
RoastedThanks guys!20:09
GalvatronRoasted: I'm talking only about the legal stuff behind codecs. As I'm from Poland and we have pretty liberal coyright law, I'm not familiar with the US ridiculous laws.;)20:09
ssfdre38froq, do you know how i can change it over20:09
froqssfdre38, you can search for it via hitting windows key and then using the dash home search20:09
RoastedGalvatron, ahh I envy you at the moment. :P20:10
froqssfdre38, just open xserver and it will give you the option20:10
RoastedGalvatron, although you probably do not envy me, as I am "committing a felony" as we speak.20:10
RoastedGASP. Anyway, case closed. :P20:10
froqRoasted, I agree, however I don't think you purchase the right to make copies (regardless of the purpose) when you purchase a DVD.20:10
GalvatronRoasted: From ethical/moral point of view there's nothing wrong with ripping your legal stuff, unless you share it across the internet.;)20:10
froqssfdre38, where you able to find xserver20:10
Roastedfroq, that's what you would call "bull s..."20:11
ssfdre38no it doesnt show20:11
froqRoasted, you from US?20:11
RoastedGalvatron, I hear ya. And that's my intention. I just want to have my live concerts all on my HTPC set up in a que throughout the day instead of swapping DVDs. Failing to see the big deal :P20:11
Roastedfroq, yes20:11
QationHow can I remove a ppa I added?20:11
RoastedQation, go into software sources.20:11
RoastedQation, then under other software, youll see PPAs there20:12
ssfdre38nvm i have it but and its set up for dual screen but its still not working right cause when i move my mouse over i get an x20:12
Qationyou mean /etc/apt/sources.list?20:12
GalvatronRoasted: If I were you, I would simply ignore the seemingly stupid law.;)20:12
froqRoasted, me too! Lol... Yeah, I totally think it is crap and there really is no consequence to it because they will never be able to determine if I did it or not as long as I do not upload.  They will never had the option to invade my home and find out.  There would be no probable cause.20:12
RoastedQation, not really, its an actual GUI application called software sources.20:12
Roastedfroq, what gets me is even if I use licensed material with licensed codecs, I'm STILL Breaking the law.20:12
QationRoasted: Oh okay, thanks20:13
oldos2erkick me off, i'll just keep coming back.  :)20:13
bastidrazorQation, if you added it manually in your sources.list then you can just delete or comment the line, if added by a script then probably in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/20:13
Roastedfroq, whcih begs the obvious question. If I walk into anybody's house and I find a digitized copy of a video, movie, tv show, concert, anything anywehre in the computer, that person has subsequently committed a felony.20:13
s0neeQation: open "software-center" then list the sources20:13
QationAlright, I got it thanks20:13
oldos2ersorry, wrong channel20:13
froqRoasted, yes they have. :)  unfortunately.20:13
GalvatronRoasted: Not to menton the US patent law, which makes no sense at all (all this patent trolling and so).;P20:14
ssfdre38froq, do you know how i can get my second screen working?20:14
froqssfdre38, did you find xserver?  from dash search?20:14
ssfdre38yea i have it open and set up to use dual screen20:15
RoastedGalvatron, I hear ya. It's a sad world. :(20:15
GalvatronI'm falling asleep, so I'm going20:15
GalvatronSee ya20:15
s0neessfdre38: are you using a discrete graphic card ?20:15
froqssfdre38, go to display configeration20:15
froqssfdre38, set it up as a twinview configeration.20:16
ssfdre38this is what i get http://paste.ssfdre38.com/920:17
froqyou get this when you do what20:18
froq?20:18
ssfdre38set up twinview20:18
s0neefroq: if youre running a nvidia card then try "nvidia-settings" ?20:18
froqs0nee, through terminal?  that only opens nvidia x server settings.20:19
costrehttp://xkcd.com/963/20:19
tlvincein 11.10's login screen, can the keyboard layout be changed?20:20
s0neessfdre38: if youre running a nvidia card then try "nvidia-settings" ?20:20
s0neefroq: i set my dual screen set up that way20:20
ssfdre38s0nee, im doing that under root20:20
froqs0nee, yes!  I suspect you did...  that opens the same thing, and then you set it to twinview I ssupect, or seperate x.20:21
froqssfdre38, I don't know why you get such error dude... i am sorry20:21
Newtkillerhi, I've got a bit of a printer problem...20:21
NewtkillerI'm getting a missing print filter when I've installed my Cannon printer drivers20:21
danielcan anyone suggest how i can extract a list of installed packages on ubuntu, without actually being logged in to ubuntu20:21
danielmy ubuntu is messed up and i need to reinstall it20:21
s0neefroq: lol i didnt know you told him to open it up. nevermind20:21
ResQuehow can i minimize just the active window with the keyboad?20:22
froqs0nee, oo haha.. yep yep :)20:22
froqssfdre38, what card are you using?20:22
Newtkillerit's kinda a problem, I've tried everything i can find20:22
Newtkillerits the ufrii driver on 11.10 64 bit if that helps20:23
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ResQuei got it alt+spacebar" to bring up the active windows context menu, then "n" to select the minimize option20:23
NewtkillerI've tried installing the 32 bit drivers as one person suggested, but they give me a missing dependency error (even though I have all the dependencies installed)20:25
RoastedSo, one thing I'm not sure of, before I installed libdvdcss just now, I was still able to PLAY DVDs on my computer. How was I able to if libdvdcss was originally needed?20:25
LargePrimeescott: Ctl - Alt -F1 gets no response20:25
NewtkillerRoasted: It might have been a dvd that didn't have any DRM20:26
RoastedNewtkiller, oh, well, that's a LOT of DVDs that didn't have any DRM.........20:27
froqhow do you restart the xserver20:27
froq?20:27
RoastedNewtkiller, extra emphasis on a lot... I've wathced a ton on this computer without a single issue.20:27
Newtkillersame actually20:27
Newtkillersome just require it i guess20:27
Newtkillerso yeah, any suggestion toward my printer problem20:28
petisnnakeHi, I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 and I have a problem. When I run a speedtest my connection speed averages above 1 Mega / sec regardless of server. When I try loading a webpage via any browser, it takes super long for any website to load. About 20-30 seconds for an average website. Any ideas why? On Windows everything works perfectly20:29
aeon-ltdpetisnnake: try a differnet browser20:29
petisnnake" via any browser"20:29
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aeon-ltdsorry i skim-read20:30
petisnnakehehe np :)20:30
aeon-ltdpetisnnake: can you use terminal if so try pinging google.com20:30
murielgodoiAfter last update, the notification area on gnome-shell is always been showed, locking the bottom area. Any ideas?20:30
petisnnakeaeon-ltd: about 30-35 ms20:30
aeon-ltdpetisnnake: what about downloading something with wget? is it slow?20:31
petisnnakeaeon-ltd: I will try it out. Don't know what to download with wget20:32
tlvincecan you change keyboard layout in lightdwm?20:32
aeon-ltdpetisnnake: just try a webpage like ubuntus homepage20:32
tlvincehow about on the on-screen keyboard?20:33
kjeethi, X crashed on me so I rebooted my machine... now my mouse works in login screen but not anymore20:33
escottLargePrime, if you can't ctrl-alt-f1 then your system is probably locked up. does the capslock light work20:34
kjeet**not after i log in20:34
robin0800petisnnake, some iso is quite good20:34
petisnnakeI tried the ubuntu homepage, it took pretty long20:34
petisnnakeabout 10-13 seconds20:35
petisnnakeand the speed that is displayed is 200 KB/ s20:35
petisnnakeit sits a long time on the Resolving www.ubuntu.com...   part20:35
LargePrimesorry, escott I rebooted into recover and dropped to root and logged in20:35
petisnnakeand in the browser it gets stuck on the "Waiting for http://foo.bar" parts20:36
LargePrimeshould i reboot and see if the caps lock works20:36
petisnnakeany ideas aeon-ltd, robin0800?20:36
escottLargePrime, if you have a recovery console you should work from there20:37
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aeon-ltdpetisnnake: try disabling ipv620:37
aeon-ltdpetisnnake: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv420:37
petisnnakeaeon-ltd: entirely, or for a specific browser?20:37
aeon-ltdpetisnnake: entirely20:37
improveuponif anyone has a minute: is it possible to get a live cd of oneiric?20:38
robin0800petisnnake, have you tried an iso file20:38
reisioimproveupon: what's your processor?20:38
improveuponx6420:39
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reisiohttp://mirror.yellowfiber.net/ubuntu/oneiric/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso http://mirror.yellowfiber.net/ubuntu/oneiric/SHA1SUMS20:39
petisnnakeaeon-ltd: It seems I dont have it enabled at all, since lsmod | grep ipv6 doesn't return a thing20:39
LargePrimeescott: I m in the recover CLI, but i an a bit CLI disabled20:39
tziOmapt-get install package --reinstall does not actually reinstall!20:40
escottLargePrime, so first ls /etc/X11/*.conf and does it list any files there20:40
robin0800improveupon, you can download one is that what you mean?20:40
tziOmthat is .. I removed a etc dir, because some configs has errors (/etc/opennms) .. anyway, when running apt-get install opennms --reinstall, the files are not created.20:41
improveuponpetis: i am getting a 404 not found20:41
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improveuponthank you anyway20:41
LargePrimeescott:  after logging in the CLI does not respond20:41
vleranhi20:42
peterrooney_!confmiss20:42
escottLargePrime, so ls[ENTER] doesn't respond20:42
LargePrimenope.  no characters echo to the screen20:43
reisiovleran: hi20:43
vleranquit20:44
ResQuedoes anyone know the google keyboard shortcut to open a selected search result in a new tab20:44
ResQuethe 20:42 < escott> LargePrime, so ls[ENTER] doesn't respond20:44
ResQue20:43 ::: jsurfer [~mdesales@c-69-181-202-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined  #ubuntu20:45
peterrooney_tziOm: check out the apt/dpkg  option 'confmiss' - dpkg believes you deliberately want the configuration files that way20:46
LargePrime???20:46
escottLargePrime, but you had the login/password dialogs and they seemed to work20:46
peterrooney_tziOm: been a long time since I've seen THAT issue...20:46
phill.hi20:46
LargePrimethe did.  prefectaly.  once login happend the machine seems to lock up20:46
phillhi20:46
Dave888STFU!20:46
tziOmproblem is I think that it is mulltiple packages...20:46
tziOmand the "opennms" package does not contain the etc files...20:47
escottLargePrime, and this was the recovery console without the gui that locked up20:47
tziOmhmm -.. perhaps.20:47
philltrue20:47
LargePrimeyes.  booted recover CLI.  Logged in the CLI and it locked up.  still flashing cursor, but nothing responds/echos20:48
LargePrimeshould i just reinstall?20:48
escottLargePrime, im skeptical because this seems unlikely if you got past the login there isn't much that should be able to cause the system to lockup like that. but its going to be a pain to fix if it really isn't working from a recovery console20:49
tziOmI do not! understand this! .. when I run dpkg -l package.deb, I see /etc/opennms/files .. but when I install it, the etc files are not created!20:49
tziOmdpkg -c i mean.20:49
LargePrimethen reinstall.  I wont suck your time, when a reinstall is probably cheaper20:51
LargePrimethank you escott20:51
RoastedSo, one thing I'm not sure of, before I installed libdvdcss just now, I was still able to PLAY DVDs on my computer. How was I able to if libdvdcss was originally needed?20:51
reisioRoasted: already had it?20:52
reisioor the DVDs you played weren't encrypted20:52
robin0800Roasted, you can only play non encrypted dvd's without it20:53
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tziOmCan someone please tell me how to actually reinstall a package in ubuntu, since --reinstall _does not_ reinstall shit20:53
Roastedreisio, never had it. although, does installing restricted-extras enable me to play dvds similar to what libdvdcss does?20:53
reisioRoasted: I thought restricted-extras included libdvdcss20:53
Roastedreisio, I don't think it INCLUDES libdvdcss, unless I was doing something wrong. I was just ripping a live concert DVD I had for my HTPC and I had to install libdvdcss separately.20:54
aeon-ltdtziOm: you do the same for installing except it says you have it installed would you like to reinstall20:54
Roastedreisio, but once I installed libdvdcss I was able to rip it. That being said, I wonder if ubuntu-restricted-extras provided me with enough functionality to play DVDs without issue?20:54
escottRoasted, it includes it but doesnt copy the "illegal" files to the right place20:54
Roastedescott, can you elaborate? What do you mean it doesnt copy the illegal files?20:55
reisio"To play DVDs, you also need to install libdvdcss by opening a terminal and entering the following in addition to installing the restricted extras package: "20:55
Roastedreisio, so it is separate.20:55
reisiono...20:55
Roastedreisio, ah wait20:55
pangolinRoasted: more like not enabled20:56
Roastedreisio, read that wrong. I thought it said by entering it and the following... meaning... libdvdcss AND restricted extras.20:56
reisiodoesn't matter, it's simple logic as I already stated20:56
robin0800tziOm, sudo aptitude reinstall20:56
Roastedreisio, right, I just read it wrong.20:56
reisioRoasted: already had it?20:56
reisioor the DVDs you played weren't encrypted20:56
reisioone or the other20:56
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tziOmaeon-ltd: yeps.. apt-get install opennnms --reinstall20:57
Roastedreisio, I see. I must have had unencrypted DVDs then. A lot of them. In fact, a truckload of them, even new ones. Because I had restricted extars installed but I wa able to play DVDs fine. However once I tried to rip a DVD, I could not, and I had to install libdvdcss separately.20:57
tziOmit seems to be going fine, but it more or less does not do shit.20:57
MrJoneshello20:57
reisioif that's what you want to believe20:57
pangolintziOm: Please mind your language20:57
MrJonesipv6 in nginx seems to be broken20:57
escottRoasted, we went over this 20 minutes ago you have to run the script in !dvd20:57
MrJonesubuntu 10.04/nginx 0.8.520:57
escott!dvd | Roasted20:57
ubottuRoasted: Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats20:57
tziOmlanguage is influenced by --reinstall20:58
Roastedreisio, there's nothing to believe. that's the only explanation, as libdvdcss was not installed. otherwise it would have returned with it already being installed, whcih, it did not. Not to mention, once I installed it, handbrake operated predictably.20:58
escottRoasted, sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh20:58
MrJonesif I replace nginx's listen 80 with a listen [::]:80 to get ipv6, this happens: http://fpaste.org/N48J/ while netstat shows that port 80 isn't in use at all. and ipv4 (old listen 80 directive) works perfectly20:58
Roastedescott, got it20:58
Roastedescott, sounds like you still need to install libdvdcss, along with that command.20:58
escottRoasted, its basically an additional step to make it like a legal click through to protect canonical20:59
reisioRoasted: only you can confirm that20:59
reisiothere's no point telling me20:59
Roastedreisio, I was just responding in reference to the "if that's what you want to believe." Point being, this isn't a religious discussion. It's how things happened on my system.21:00
Roastedescott, So by installing libdvdcss, then running that .sh command, you're thereby making libdvdcss legal to utilize for DVD playback?21:00
enix316anyone here familar with scp?21:00
Roastedescott, all thanks to running the .sh command afterwards?21:00
reisiothere's just no point stating that, only you can confirm it :p21:00
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TheEvilPhoenixenix316:  what about it?21:00
reisioenix316: I invented it21:00
escottRoasted, you are indicating that it is legal for you to circumvent css21:00
enix316TheEvilPhoenix: http://pastebin.com/xSPuP3eb21:01
Roastedescott, I'm indicating? I'm indicating nothing. I'm asking.21:01
reisioit is some places21:01
enix316reisio: http://pastebin.com/xSPuP3eb21:01
rumpel1enix316, the chances are high that one of the approx. 1500 user here know a bit about it :)21:01
enix316rumpel1: good, maybe i will figure this out. :)21:01
escottRoasted, by running that command you are indicating...21:01
Roastedescott, oh! gotcha...21:02
Roastedescott, I wonder what exactly that command does... and if it matters if I'd run it at all...21:02
escottRoasted, you can read the script it just copies some files around21:03
robin0800Roasted, its a fact here in the uk shop optained dvd's will not play in ubuntu with just restricted extras installed21:03
reisioenix316: what makes you think they move 100+GB21:03
escottRoasted, less /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh21:03
mauro_good evening21:03
reisioevening21:03
Roastedescott, yeah I'm reading over it now. Even still, I'm failing to see what the script even does, or what the point of it is. I mean, libdvdcss is the key ingredient. I just fail to see what relevance this script provides.21:04
mauro_how i can activate hdmi output on nvidia optimus laptop?21:04
enix316reisio: because it maxes out my HDD, thats how much data is in the folder.21:04
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reisioRoasted: it's not so much that it exists, rather that it isn't automatically run in some distros21:04
reisioenix316: in the copied folder21:04
reisioenix316: how did you determine it21:04
RoastedI mean, 6 years of Ubuntu, and only today I hear of this .sh script. Meanwhile restricted extras and libdvdcss I've heard about all along.21:04
enix316reisio: du -sh and df -h21:05
reisioenix316: du -sh /home/ev/backupev ?21:05
escottRoasted, it is there to protect canonical from a lawsuit in the US21:05
Roastedescott, but libdvdcss isn't installed by default in ubuntu. so how is it protecting anything?21:06
enix316reisio: right now that folder is empty. I just did df -h from / on the remote machine: 106GB free21:07
escottRoasted, because it could get installed without specific instruction by the user if they install something like a media player, and then canonical could get sued for facilitating felonious behavior21:07
reisiobut that's the commnad you ran?21:07
reisioand it was more than 21GB21:07
enix316reisio: yes21:07
reisioenix316: you might have some symlinks21:08
enix316reisio: much more, folder ev has ~33k files, when i delete folder on remote machine it removes ~999k21:08
Roastedescott, so you're saying a user can install a media player (for example) that might call for libdvdcss as a dependency, which would install libdvdcss as well. But then what? Does the script kick in and run after its installed to protect canonical?21:08
reisioenix316: either tar and pipe to scp, or use rsync (with -e ssh if you like)21:08
froqwell I found out something cool!!  when trying to isntall nvidia driver, I kept getting an error of nouveau driver already present.  I jus thad to set the vga=0 so prevent that from booting up.21:09
enix316reisio: vaguley familar with pipeing, will look into it more. and you are syaing tar the folder first/21:09
enix316reisio:21:09
enix316reisio: *?*21:10
reisioenix316: yes you can either tar it up and then scp the .tar, or tar and pipe to scp in one step21:10
reisiowhichever you're more comfortable with21:10
reisioor use rsync instead21:10
enix316reisio: right using a pipe to complete 2 functions in one command21:10
doomrobois it possible to install grub to my ubuntu partition, then install chameleon on the MBR of another disk and still have it recognize disk #1 to boot from?21:10
reisiodunno what chameleon is, besides something with a poor name21:11
doomrobobootloader for hackintoshes21:11
doomrobohere's the article: http://www.dailyblogged.com/1028/booting-ubuntu-with-the-chameleon-bootloader/21:11
escottRoasted, the script is NOT run without specific user interaction protecting canonical from the charge that a user installed a media player and unwittingly was induced into a violation of US law21:11
LargePrimeescott: have you a moment?21:11
ethern0thaillo21:11
reisiohi21:12
doomroboI have Windows and Ubuntu on one disk and OSX on another, how do I get a unified bootloader?21:12
escottLargePrime, sure21:12
ResQuehow can i see the dns server address sent via the networks dhcp server21:12
LargePrimeI am reinstalling.  this will be a minecraft server.  how shall i configer the Drive?21:12
LargePrimeentire disk with LVM?21:13
doomroboramdisk?21:13
Roastedescott, which begs the obvious question. Libdvdcss is not installed by default. This script is not ran without user interaction. In order to install libdvdcss, you must install it, requiring user interaction. So if running the script (or installing libdvdcss) requires user interaction, I just fail to see the point of it. I hate to sound like an idiot but I just don't understand the relevance of its existence.21:13
LargePrimeonly have 3 GB21:13
escottdoomrobo, yes i think chameleon can chain load grub, although having grub on a pbr is less stable than on the mbr21:13
reisiodoomrobo: you should be able to use GRUB(2) alone21:13
yeatsdoomrobo: you might ask in #grub21:13
doomrobook, thank you21:13
llutzRoasted: its the easiest way to get libdvdcss, unfortunately nearly nobody knows about the script21:14
escottRoasted, ask a US lawyer if it doesn't make sense to you. yes it is annoying, US law is annoying. im explaining the rationale for it21:14
ResQuedoomrobo: i would use refit21:14
Roastedllutz, that's just it. 6 years with Ubuntu, and I have NEVER heard of this script.21:15
escottLargePrime, LVM is useful if you plan to expand/shrink/move partitions, otherwise its not that useful21:15
behelithi. ok, new to ubuntu. if i want to install a package that is included, but of an old version, should i just compile from source, or are there other mirrors that are more up to date?21:15
LargePrimeis there a cost to LVM?21:15
escott!pinning | behelit21:15
ubottubehelit: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto21:15
escottbehelit, check the mirrors/your /var/cache/apt for the old deb, then pin21:16
behelitescott: will check it out, thanks!21:16
behelitit's odd that 11.04 would ship with almost two year old version of erlang :)21:16
escottLargePrime, makes booting a bit harder + some performance cost, but probably minimal performance issues21:17
llutzRoasted: problem is that it wasn't advertised since lots of forum-owners etc were afraid to get sued and so they censored everything css-related etc.pp.21:17
doomroboResQue: I use rEFIt for my mac, this is a desktop. Hackintosh baby!21:17
behelitescott: i can upgrade to a later version of ubuntu if the package i need is updated. i though 11.04 was the latest, apparently i was wrong. know where i can check what versions of packages are included in the later version?21:18
escottbehelit, you can /qry ubottu and then !info the package name on IRC or find the package list online21:19
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Polah!info erlang | behelit21:19
ubottubehelit: erlang (source: erlang): Concurrent, real-time, distributed functional language. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:14.b.2-dfsg-3ubuntu2 (oneiric), package size 19 kB, installed size 84 kB21:19
behelitthat's a more recent version. perfect. thanks!21:20
doomrobothis isn't working very well. In ubuntu there are 1500+ people. 84 in grub21:20
ResQuehow can i view edit my dns servers from the terminal?21:21
sbtehi, why does setting the default browser in oneiric not change the sensible-browser browser?21:21
escottResQue, /etc/resolv.conf, but network manager will overwrite the file contents21:21
ResQueescott: yes i have read the file, so how should i set or check my current dns servers?21:22
ResQuemaybe there is a terminal app i can use21:22
robin0800Roasted, you don't need a script the file in deb format is freely available from vlc site home page21:22
Roastedrobin0800, what deb?21:23
llutzResQue: you use networkmanager? rightclick on applet, edit connection, set dns21:23
ResQuellutz: how can i do this from the terminal21:23
flaguy48ResQue: cat /etc/resolv.conf21:23
ResQueflaguy48: and if i would like to edit my dns server, for example change it to openDNS?21:24
escottResQue, there is nmcli, but its mostly used for enabling/switching between established networkmanager profiles21:24
llutzResQue: what do you want to achieve, set your own fixed dns?" sudo apt-get install resolvconf " edit /etc/resolvconf/resolvconf.d/base  and add your nameserver there21:24
robin0800Roasted, libdvdcss2 and incidentally it actually cracks the encryption21:24
escottResQue, is there a reason why you want to do this from the cli instead of the gui21:24
CQNhi, i'm having trouble with using vdpau: http://askubuntu.com/questions/73448/all-of-screen-except-thin-bar-at-top-turns-black-when-vdpau-used21:25
CQNcan anyone help me out?21:25
fatboy21007Why do i keep getting an Error message in PlayOnLinux, keeps says i dont have 3d acceleration n tells me to install it, but additional drivers doesnt have that option21:25
Roastedrobin0800, it "cracks" the encryption by reading it as a block device, from what I understand. Not that it's any better, but it's different than Ie xpected.21:25
robin0800Roasted, correct21:26
ResQueescott: yes i dont like the GUI, also i plan on putting this into a script file that will be run by OpenVPN21:26
escottResQue, the suggested way to do this is to establish the profile with the gui, and then use nmcli to switch to that profile. otherwise you are going to be fighting network manager21:26
ResQueescott: i am planning on running my own local dns server with Bind to learn more about it, and i want to understand how to set/change the dns server of local computers on my network. maybe even have two running at once21:26
flaguy48ResQue: edit /etc/dhcp/shclient.conf Look at 'prepend'.21:27
ResQueescott: can you not call network manager from the CLI?21:27
escottResQue, nmcli is the tool to do that, but its mostly intended to switch profiles21:28
escottResQue, just look at man nmcli21:28
alex_____hey guys21:28
alex_____any one can help me?21:29
alex_____any one can help me with ubuntu21:29
escott!help | alex_____21:29
ubottualex_____: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:29
ResQueflaguy48: thanks whats the difference between /etc/dhcp and /etc/dhcp3 folder21:29
alex_____yeah21:30
ResQueescott: ok mate thanks for the adivce, i will look into this21:30
alex_____i cahnge my ubuntu teheme with magic icons21:30
alex_____i want to get my deafult theame21:30
flaguy48ResQue: Dunno :)21:30
alex_____how to restroe my deafuld themes?21:30
ResQueescott: seems odd to me there isnt a simpler way todo this. is there a reason why there is not just a simple dns server change command?21:30
ResQueflaguy48: ok i wil google it thanks for the advice21:31
GBABYhello21:32
escottResQue, there is. its a checkbox and a textbox in the gui :)21:32
GBABYany one familer with screensaver21:32
escott!anyone | GBABY21:32
ubottuGBABY: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.21:32
flaguy48ResQue: I think you can just change some lookups on the fly by editing /etc/resolv.conf21:32
GBABYhow can i run a screen saver as a videostream of a url???21:32
alex_____how to restore theme in ubuntu21:33
R3db3ard!register21:34
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode21:34
escottGBABY, there were screensavers to do that with xscreensaver. im not sure if they still exist or how they would be done with gnome-screensaver. i would find the screensaver name under xscreensaver and see if google suggests how to use it with gnome-screensaver21:34
GBABYhmm21:36
_X__hi, has anyone a gobi 3000 umts modem running?21:37
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miceikenzykotick9, hey, you here today too?21:38
Guest34655How do you change the Unity Sidebar Theme? (Example Download new ones and install them)? Website would be great too21:39
ResQueis rc.local the best place to run a command only once when the system starts up?21:39
escottResQue, yes21:39
diamondshi21:39
diamondswhen I right click in FF the menu disappears on mouse-move21:39
ResQueescott: thanks21:40
diamondsI see posts about this for FF 3 but I'm using... 7 I think21:40
diamondsperhaps here.... https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/75332921:40
miceikenYesterday, a while after I plugged in a SD-card in my reader it showed up in 'dmesg', but today it won't show after I plugged it in, any ideas?21:40
diamondsoh no that's within the menu bar menus, mine is on the page21:40
diamondsi.e. right click : open in new tab21:41
ultrav1oletcan someone running Ubuntu 11.10 and an SMP system show me the output of "ls /sys/devices/system/cpu/"?21:41
ultrav1oletany modern dual/quad core CPU will do21:41
zvacetin 11.10 in home directory all folders look like files I tried all themes but it is always the same21:43
escottultrav1olet, cpu0  cpu3     kernel_max  possible  release cpu1  cpufreq  offline     present   sched_mc_power_savings cpu2  cpuidle  online      probe     sched_smt_power_savings21:43
ultrav1oletescott: then please echo /sys/devices/system/cpu/sched_mc_power_savings /sys/devices/system/cpu/sched_smt_power_savings21:44
GBABYty sorry i was on the phone escott21:45
zvacetit was o.k until today how to fix this?21:45
ultrav1oletooops I meant cat instead of echo21:45
escottultrav1olet, 0 021:45
ultrav1oletescott: thank you!21:46
reise6If I open a window in workspace 1 it's decorated; if I open it in any other workspace it's not decorated. any ideas?21:46
escottreise6, workspace not monitor correct? gnome3 or unity21:47
reise6I use gnome321:47
zvacetI foget to say in it unity problem21:47
escottreise6, what happens if you shift-ctrl-alt-down_arrow does the window lose its decorations21:49
reise6nope, it keeps its decoration21:49
reise6what is that key combination supposed to do?21:49
escottreise6, drags the window down to the next workspace below21:50
reise6ahh that key combination is not doing that for me, but when I move the windows between workspaces decoration isn't lost21:50
reise6it only affects windows opened in workspaces other than the first one21:51
escottso if you have a terminal in worskapce 1 and run xclock & it is decorated, but if you then drag the terminal to workspace 2 and run xclock & you get a clock without decoration21:51
reise6that is correct based on my tests, but I'll confirm that with xclock right now21:52
diamondsis there any way to change the appearance of Empathy, or is it just permanently ugly?21:52
LargePrimeescott: can you recommend a ssh windows client for use with ubuntu21:53
diamondsI can't find any "preferences" or "settings" in the menu21:53
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escottLargePrime, putty21:53
reise6escott: It was decorated in workspaces 1 and 2, undecorated in workspaces 3 and 421:53
icerootis it possible to encrypt an already used ext4-partition without reformating the partiton?21:54
escottreise6, that is really strange. obviously mutter is screwed up somehow, but im not sure how. is this a fresh install of gnome-shell from 11.10? and does it persist across logouts21:54
escotticeroot, no, but you can use ecryptfs21:54
reise6this is 11.04 and persists between logouts21:54
dr_willisreise6:  how about making a new user. and seeing if it affects them also..21:55
reise6it's not exactly a fresh install, I've played with it a bit. but I haven't done that much to window management21:55
reise6okay, I'll give that a try21:55
icerootescott: i will have a look at it21:55
jowophello, i installed ubuntu natty (server) and selected only to auto install security updates. how can i change this to auto install all updates?21:55
dr_willisI cant imagine what could be the issue reise6  :) thats a very weird... thing.21:55
escottreise6, i would go to 11.10. i wouldn't trust the gnome3 ppa for 11.04. i intentionally skipped it and went beta for 3 months21:55
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reise6If making a new user doesn't work I'll try to upgrade then. This completely goes against my rule of avoiding system upgrades during midterm week. :)21:57
escottreise6, and i wouldnt recommend an upgrade, but a complete reinstall21:59
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diamondsdoes empathy really have NO configuration options?21:59
diamondsI just have to look at enormous user icons or get another client?22:00
adantehi22:00
adantehow can i stop my compute spamming me with "hard disk problems detected"22:00
ircdeariaI downloaded this flash player 10.1. How do I install it?  I am at pof22:01
adanteif i go to sleep and wake up there are tens of dialog boxes up with this message, to the point where my x session has locked up22:01
ircdeariaCause mine worked on the other computer, the other laptop, but it doesn't work on this one.22:01
dr_willisircdearia:  its best to use the package mabnager tools to install flash..22:01
ahrimenI can't log into my ubuntu 11.10 system anymore. How do I find out what is happening?22:01
escottadante, sounds like it is crashing on suspend/hibernate. disable suspend/hibernate or try and debug it22:01
ircdeariadr_willis: so synaptic package manager?22:02
dr_willisircdearia:  any of the tools should work.22:02
dr_willis!flash22:02
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash22:02
ircdeariadr_willis, what do you mean?22:02
adanteescott: it is not, it is a dialog box that comes up periodically because one of my hard disks is failing22:02
escottadante, then replace the failing disk22:02
dr_willisircdearia:  software cenbter, apt-get, synaptic, aptitude....22:02
adanteescott: i do not want to i just want to not have x crash22:02
yeatsdiamonds: I would use pidgin - it's far more configurable22:02
diamondsyeats: downloading it now ;)22:03
anil_hey people22:03
ahrimeni get to the login screen but each time i try to log in it just goes back to the login screen22:03
ircdeariadr_willis, thanks, and excuse my questions... I'm relaying conversation between someone obnoxiously and overwhelmingly computer illiterate =/22:03
anil_how to reset ubuntu setting22:03
dr_willisahrimen:  go to the console, try to login there.22:03
anil_i want my ubuntu a deauft22:03
Polahanil_: Reinstalling would be the easiest way.22:03
anil_how to reset my ubuntu setting22:04
dr_willisanil_:  which defaults..  all the user settings are in various .* files int heir home dir.. you could move them all to some BackupDir. then log out/back in.22:04
anil_i dont want to reinstall22:04
anil_i install third party themse22:04
anil_but i change themse again22:04
ahrimendr_willis How do i private message?22:04
anil_but icon colour still in same colour22:04
dr_willisahrimen:  /pm foo22:04
anil_i want to restore my themese as deafult22:05
dr_willisahrimen:  or /msg foo22:05
familycan somone andswer a question on this site. http://tinyurl.com/ubuntu104Question22:05
dr_willisdepends on the clients.22:05
ahrimenirssi22:05
anil_how get dault themese22:05
dr_willistime to check the irssi docs :)22:05
ahrimenin irssi /msg and /pm not working22:05
dr_willisbbl off to work.22:05
ahrimendr_willis: I can not go into ubuntu 11.10 recovery console, I have to use the <ctrl><alt>F1 console to log in22:05
diamondsyeats: I'm really confused about empathy... perhaps it's just not working? http://i.imgur.com/87Iye.png22:06
ahrimendr_willis: using that is how I'm here.22:06
diamondsis it supposed to look like this? http://i.imgur.com/87Iye.png It looks totally unstyled22:06
miceikenYesterday, a while after I plugged in a SD-card in my reader it showed up in 'dmesg', but today it won't show after I plugged it in, any ideas?22:06
dr_willisahrimen:  theres no need to PM me   a question anyway. :)22:06
escottdiamonds, thats the empathy theme22:06
dr_willisbye all.. back later.22:06
diamondsescott: It's also the complete absence of styling :D22:06
escottdiamonds, and it does sound like your theme is messed up. go into preferences and select a different theme the default install comes with 3 or 4 of them22:06
IarryeIIisonseeya doc!22:07
diamondsescott: I have no preferences option22:07
diamondsescott: can you see my screenshot?22:07
ahrimenI can't log into my ubuntu 11.10 system anymore. How do I find out what is happening?22:07
diamondsescott: I can't find "preferences" in the options22:07
ahrimeni get to the login screen but each time i try to log in it just goes back to the login screen22:07
escottdiamonds, open the windows with all your contacts not the conversation window22:08
escottahrimen, try and install an alternate session such as unity-2d or gnome-shell and select that on login22:08
ahrimeni have, can't use any of them22:08
ahrimennot even recovery console22:08
ahrimeni can through a guest account22:09
diamondsescott: how do I even do that? There doesn't seem to be a "buddies" menu option22:09
MokilokHow do I mount a remote admin share?22:09
escottdiamonds, you closed it at some point, you just need to reopen it from the panel22:09
diamondsescott: yeah I closed the "buddies" list22:10
diamondsI'm clicking on the empathy icon on the panel, right clicking...22:10
escottahrimen, if you can get a guest session its almost certainly a screwed up .config which is causing gnome-session to crash. ctrl-alt-f1 and use that to move .config to .config.bak22:10
ahrimencool, gonna try that out now thank you22:11
dansloNow that I'm here anyway, looks like the latest 11.10 upgrade broke my nautilus styling (looks like GTK theme is not applied?) - anyone else had this issue? :)22:12
diamondsw/e, the fact that I can't easily figure out how to open the buddies menu is just a testament to this program's unacceptable usability22:12
diamondsIf someone even has to ask for help with such a simple task, the program is shite.22:13
Dark-Showyo22:13
diamondswhy ubuntu bundles such crap, which reflects so poorly on the OS, is a mystery to me.22:13
Dark-Showsup people?22:14
zvacet11.10  & unity in home directory instead of folders I see something like files how to fix that? tnx22:14
tableswhat must i install to get opengl?  i think i need the 'glxinfo' program22:14
escottdiamonds, is this in unity?22:14
hank_hello does anyone know how to enable bluetooth in jolicloud?!22:14
diamondsescott: yes, 11.1022:14
escotttables, you dont need the glxinfo command its just for debugging22:14
hank_or a shortcut22:14
tablesok i need it though22:15
tablesto make sure opengl is working or not22:15
ahrimenescott, do i need to restart the machine? nothin changed when I moved .config to .config.bak22:15
tablesunless there's another way?22:15
tablesescott,22:15
Dark-Showdoes anyone love free video sites? goto this new one: dark-show.ath.cx22:15
escottdiamonds, well it works in gnome-shell although they broke everything else about the shell integration with empathy22:15
zachrose\Could anybody what owner settings I should use to share my home directory on an Ubuntu VM to the mac that's hosting it?22:15
diamondsHuh! It looks like if I search the application name in the overlay thing and click that, THEN I can get a new contacts list22:15
ahrimenescott, when you say move .config you do mean ~/.config correct?22:15
diamondswhat a POS22:16
hank_anyone know the shortcut for bluetooth22:16
escottahrimen, yes. they may be some other config file that needs to be moved, but i would have picked .config as the most likely22:16
auronandacehank_: jolicloud isn't supported here22:16
escotttables, well glxinfo is provided by mesa-utils22:16
hank_oh22:16
t0bisHi there22:17
LargePrimeescott: do you have a VNC recommendation too?  Please and thank you.22:17
hank_but does anyone know lol22:17
diamondsescott: any clue as to why ubuntu bundles it rather than pidgin, if (as you say) integration is all messed up and as I say it looks like absolute ass?22:17
t0bisI looking for someone with some knowledge on Regex and shell scripting22:17
Jordan_U!anyone | t0bis22:18
ubottut0bis: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.22:18
diamonds!poll22:18
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.22:18
escottdiamonds, not 100% sure why the switch was from pidgin to empathy, but the integration with gnome3 looks like it could be very nice. i think they just messed it up trying to do their own integration with unity22:18
Dark-Showt0bis22:18
hank_whats the best channel for jolicloud support22:18
cronos10Hat jemand Erfahrung mit einem Linux Multiboot system?22:18
ahrimenescott, any idea what else i can move around?22:18
Jordan_U!de | cronos1022:18
ubottucronos10: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!22:18
diamonds!anyone | cronos1022:18
ubottucronos10: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.22:18
escottdiamonds, the shell integration is like 90% there. i just have trouble sometimes opening conversation windows when ive been having them through the shell22:19
t0bisDoes anyone have some knowledge on Regex and shell script ?22:19
thithibHello guys, i have a little bug with gnome-shell22:19
diamondsescott: empathy works from bash?22:19
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NerdsMGHey guys, I'm having a bit of a problem trying to boot the 11.04 LiveCD on my MacBookPro. Has anyone been able to do so? It looks like it's a bug in the kernel. :(22:19
diamondshuh! I've been using finch when I need such things22:19
escottahrimen, try .compiz and .compiz-1 .gconf .gnome2 etc22:19
Jordan_Ut0bis: Please just ask your actual question / state your end goal.22:19
diamondsbut frankly I prefer gui for chat applications22:19
escottdiamonds, no its gnome-shell notifications. you can type into the notifications and send recieve while having the convo window closed22:20
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Jordan_UNerdsMG: What happens when you try to boot it? Why 11.04 rather than 11.10?22:20
IarryellisonNerdsMG:you must use the right distro for your architecture22:21
NerdsMGJordan_U: I'm sorry, I've tried both. They load grub fine, but I get an error saying that it's unable to load a rootfs22:21
escottNerdsMG, did you check the md5sums22:21
NerdsMGescott:Yes, They matched22:21
escottNerdsMG, and the burn was good?22:21
NerdsMGIarryellison: I used the amd64 version, and escott: Yes, It boots on my desktop machine22:22
hank_well does anyone know how to get into jolicloud settings like preferences and adminstration like ubuntu22:22
Jordan_UNerdsMG: Somehow the kernel isn't able to access your CDROM drive, this can be worked around by using the minimal install CD (the entire installer is loaded into memory by the bootloader, before the kernel even starts).22:23
thithibHere's my problem : I usually shut down my laptop using the command "halt", but since I installed Ubuntu 11.10 and gnome-shell, the command "halt" causes a freeze of my screen while it's purple with the ubuntu logo. However when I use the GI to shut down, it works. Have you any idea ?22:23
NerdsMcG_Sorry about that guys, Thought I was on wireless.22:23
escottthithib, try shutdown -h now22:23
Jordan_Uhank_: You have already been told that jolicloud is not supported here. Please stop asking.22:24
NerdsMcG_Anyway, The burn was good, md5sums matched, and I used the right arch (amd64)22:24
hank_jheez i was only asking and i asked if there was a jolicloud channel22:25
Dark-Showanyone wana shoot me a invite for #php?22:25
LargePrimeescott: do you have a VNC client recommendation too?  Please and thank you.22:25
thithibok thanks, I gonna try this22:25
escottLargePrime, no i dont sorry22:26
LargePrimethanks anyway22:26
White--where do I best put user specific env variables? profile, bashrc?22:26
IarryellisonNerdsMG:does macbook pro uses powerpc cpu?22:26
NerdsMcG_Iarryellison: No, it has a Core i722:27
ahrimenescott, I made a back of the files you pointed out and nothing has changed. would it be safe to just mov my user directory and make a new one?22:27
TheBoxExtractionhmm22:27
escottahrimen, you will need to manually create the folder, and copy the contents of /etc/skel to that folder (and fix up permissions) but yes that should be ok22:27
escottWhite--, http://www.joshstaiger.org/archives/2005/07/bash_profile_vs.html22:28
w30ahrimen, I have created a new user then copy new users home to you and chmod you to you.you22:29
w30ahrimen, that gives yo the skel files22:30
w30yo/you22:30
BitWraithI have an ubuntu box here running the previous major version. I used to be able to print, but I can't now.22:31
gps_hi22:31
wolteris proftpd the famous simple ftp server?22:32
gps_using 11.10, how can i use hot corners with compiz?22:32
escott!ccsm | gps_22:32
ubottugps_: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' (or 'simple-ccsm' for pre-Oneiric). If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz22:32
ahrimenescott and w30, Thanks! that worked. now to figure out the offending files.22:32
escottgps_, be careful as you can easily break unity22:32
wolteror is pureftp simpler?22:32
KrazyKrivdamy wifi will not turn on.. rfkill shows it as hardblocked.. how can i unblock?  everything I've tried has failed22:32
BitWraiththe cups web interface is complaining that a sRGB Profile.icc file was not found22:32
gps_did that, seems not to work anymore, the scale plugin seems dead22:33
BitWraithhow do I fix that?22:33
rumpel1KrazyKrivda, I usually need to turn the laptop completely off for a second (no reboot)22:34
escottwolter, command line ftp is provided by a bunch of servers check /etc/alternatives, but i have netkit-ftp22:34
KrazyKrivdarumpel1: it just started acting up recently.. it's been off for a day.. problem persists22:34
rumpel1KrazyKrivda, hm.. or check bios.22:34
chaos_any 11.10 sharks out there wanna send me in the right direction with changing my theme in 11.1022:35
escottKrazyKrivda, if you have a physical switch make sure that is in the correct position, otherwise try the button22:35
chaos_i hate the color white its giving me a headache i need black on black on black22:35
chaos_please i have looked hard and cant find the settings for the theme in 11.1022:36
KrazyKrivdaescott: HP laptop with a touch button.. unresponsive but shows off (orange) and will not go on22:36
w30KrazyKrivda, My Dell can use a special fn key to turn off wifi but it won't toggle back on without going into bios and re-enabling it even though bios says it's enabled; go figure22:36
wolfman2_Afternoon/evening. If I wanted to install anything via the package manager, would I be able to manually configure it with options, or would it just give me the defaults?22:36
KrazyKrivdahow woudl I go about re-enabling.. i only have access to a teminal.. nothing via a typical user interface22:36
Jordan_UNerdsMcG_: Did you see my suggested work around of using the minimal CD?22:37
escottKrazyKrivda, if it is remembering across reboots you may need to go into windows to get the acpi calls done correctly22:37
wolterescott, do you use it? I can see I have it too22:37
chaos_defaults i would assume with a package manager.. not 1005 on that22:37
NerdsMcG_Jordan_U: No, I'm sorry, I got disconnected.22:37
robin0800BitWraith, in system settings there is now a colour apt see if your printer is there and that file is referenced22:38
chaos_help 11.10 theme help22:38
escottwolter, sorry you want the server. when on rare occasions I've used an ftp server it has been proftpd, but you should use openssh sftp instead22:38
Jordan_UNerdsMcG_: Somehow the kernel isn't able to access your CDROM drive, this can be worked around by using the minimal install CD (the entire installer is loaded into memory by the bootloader, before the kernel even starts).22:38
KrazyKrivdaescott: I am actually in a situation where i'm forced to do this through the tty screen22:38
NerdsMcG_Jordan_U: Now there's an idea. :)22:39
antnash_Hi guys, I've got a problem with my DVB-S2 USB tuner. I've got demux0, dvr0 and net0 fine but no frontend0. The drivers were supposed to be included in kernel 3.0 (which I'm on) but it's still not working. Anyone able to point me to a solution? It's a MyGica/Geniatech HD Star.22:40
escottKrazyKrivda, i mean windows as in MS windows22:40
chaos_could someone point in the right direction to changing my theme in 11.10. i know this is weak and lame but the white is hurting my head i really need a dark theme thats easy on my eyes for all the hours i spend looking at it daily22:40
escottchaos_, the appearance application22:40
KrazyKrivdaoh.. alright.  you think enabling it in windows will solve22:40
ActionParsnipantnash_: run:  lsusb   use the 8 character hex ID to find guides22:40
wolterescott, even if I want to allow anonymous ftp?22:40
wdd``http://i.imgur.com/FMTao.jpg22:41
escottwolter, no idea. haven't run ftp in years22:41
chaos_it does nothing. i feel like i got a lemon for settings in 11.10 very very basic to the 10.04 stuff22:41
bluecrispmanuhow to use pastebin22:41
antnash_ActionParsnip: 1f4d:3000, and I've tried that. Still not running.22:41
escott!paste | bluecrispmanu22:41
ubottubluecrispmanu: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.22:41
bluecrispmanuwould anyone be able to examine tiger log warnings here if put in pastebin22:41
ActionParsnipantnash_: did you download http://www.veitch.me.uk/~john/files/dvb-fe-ds3000.fw ?22:42
blz!offtopic | wdd``22:42
ubottuwdd``: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:42
chaos_escott: actually your right but there is only four themes there and cannot find the settings to tweak them..22:42
robin0800chaos_, install gnome-tweak-tool as a starting point22:42
chaos_yay! thanks will try22:42
escottwolter, https://singpolyma.net/2009/11/anonymous-sftp-on-ubuntu/22:43
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Der_TigerI need to figure out how I can disable highlight notifications in certain networks on my client.22:43
Der_TigerTwo highlights already... heh22:43
kpowellI screwed up my ATI display drivers, what's the easiest way to reset them from the tty console?22:43
ActionParsnipantnash_: a simple yes or no is fine....22:43
blzAre there any significant differences between openvpn and hammachi?22:43
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NerdsMcG_Jordan_U: Will I have networking support when I use the minimal CD?22:44
blzNerdsMcG_, ethernet definitely works.  wifi can be a bit tricky to set up22:44
palvenHOLA22:44
escott!es | palven22:45
ubottupalven: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.22:45
blz!1337|blz22:45
ubottublz, please see my private message22:45
bluecrispmanuhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/723754/22:45
Jordan_UNerdsMcG_: I think wifi is supported, but I'm not sure and if you can connect via ethernet that would be easier.22:45
bluecrispmanusomeone give me advice on that paste22:45
late_niteany one got idea why my nvida pc , keeps dropping into Busy box22:45
late_nitedone the googleing running out of sugestions22:45
blzlate_nite, it's kind of hard to have any ideas when you don't give us anything to work with =/22:46
Jordan_UNerdsMcG_: Did you use the regular amd64 iso or the +mac iso? To be clear, the +mac iso will *not* help with the problem you're having, but the fact that you got as far as you did without the +mac iso (if you in fact did) means that something has changed with Apple's firmware and that information would be useful for Ubuntu developers to know, see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/63398322:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 633983 in linux (Ubuntu) "Can't boot amd64 live cd on Mac (EFI)" [High,Confirmed]22:46
bluecrispmanunething to fix here that is urgent22:47
escottbluecrispmanu, it is misparsing the files. not sure what you want to say about it. if you system works your auditing tool is broken22:47
ResQuecan i set certain interfaces (eth0/wlan0) to use certain dns servers. say if i am connected to two networks (both with internet access) at the same time?22:47
bluecrispmanuhi thanks. is that serious?22:47
bluecrispmanutiger is the auditing tool?22:48
Der_Tiger:(22:48
bluecrispmanusystem works fine22:48
bluecrispmanui think!!22:48
late_nite<blz> been useing ubuntu 10.04 for a year or two, upgraded to 11.10 and it fails install with my Nvida Gforce6  , so went back to 10.10 all i get is at boot up drops into busybox22:48
svipIs there any new USB issue in 10.11?  I cannot get xsane with artec_eplus48 to work.22:48
svipAnd it has never been a problem before.22:49
ActionParsniplate_nite: read /var/log/Xorg.0.log    see if it gives clues22:49
ActionParsnipsvip: any bugs reported?22:49
late_nite<blz> latest drivers installed . and blacklisted the intel onboard . and also run x-config as well22:49
svipActionParsnip: Not seen one.  But it says 'no device available'.22:49
chaos_ya 11.10 gtk -> pixmap gives gay warnings22:49
svipActionParsnip: That's not the error I tend to get, if I get one.22:49
svipAlso 11.1022:49
svipI keep mixing them up.22:49
Jordan_Usvip: Does simple scan work?22:49
danilohello22:50
ActionParsnipsvip: boot to liveCD and reinstate grub, may help22:50
blzlate_nite:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GettingAnswers  That's not anything we can work with.  You need to give us specifics, including terminal output for the things you run (that are returning erroneous results)22:50
svipJordan_U: simple scan?22:50
chaos_me simple man22:50
daniloexcuse me... where i could find a list of channels?22:50
Jordan_UActionParsnip: I don't see how this relates to grub.22:50
escottActionParsnip, not sure the grub comment was meant for svip his problem was scanning22:50
Jordan_U!alis | danilo22:51
ubottudanilo: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu*22:51
ActionParsnipah yeah, crossed wires :(22:51
bluecrispmanu--WARN-- [lin003w] The process `avahi-dae' is listening on socket UDP (0t0 on22:51
bluecrispmanu         UDP interface) is run by avahi.22:51
bluecrispmanu?22:51
svipActionParsnip: Don't worry, I wasn't gonna reboot anyway! :P22:51
daniloubottu tnx22:51
calixteSalut, vous connaitriez un canal sur la langage C ?22:51
Jordan_Usvip: It's the default scanning GUI in Ubuntu. (uses Sane as a backend, but is simpler than XSane).22:52
escott!fr | calixte22:52
ubottucalixte: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.22:52
wolterthanks escott22:52
svipJordan_U: What is it called?22:52
wolterI think I will use proftpd though22:52
Jordan_Usvip: "Simple Scan".22:52
BitWraithrobin0800: I don't see an exllicit reference to that file, just a choice of color models22:52
svipJordan_U: That's not a valid command.22:52
Jordan_Usvip: From the terminal, "simple-scan".22:52
BitWraithexplicit*22:52
svipJordan_U: Not working.22:52
svipJordan_U: My scanner indicates that it is connected.22:53
svipWhen I insert my scanner, dmesg picks up on it.22:53
Jordan_Usvip: "Not working" is rarely a sufficient description of a problem. What happens when you try to run/use Simple Scan?22:53
ActionParsnipsvip: does it show in lsusb  output?22:54
KrazyKrivdaescott: wow.. reboot into windows and back was the easiest fix ever.. thanks again22:54
NerdsMcG_Jordan_U: I'm going to try it. I'll be back on my tablet22:54
robin0800BitWraith, do you see your printer?22:54
antnash_Hey ActionParsnip, sorry. Had to step away. No, didn't find that. Where was it?22:55
escottKrazyKrivda, there some model specific acpi call that windows knows that linux evidently doesn't which is the cause of the problem22:55
svipJordan_U: Sorry about that.22:55
svipJordan_U: Accidentially hit the restart button.  I've never done that before.22:55
ActionParsnipantnash_: found a guide online. Thought you would have found it in your searchings.....22:55
svipActionParsnip: Strange, I see nothing like the scanner on the list.22:56
svipLet me try another hole.22:56
antnash_I'll test that one out22:56
hourdeauhello?22:56
ActionParsnipantnash_: try:  cd /lib/firmware; sudo wget http://www.veitch.me.uk/~john/files/dvb-fe-ds3000.fw22:56
svipActionParsnip: Now lsusb crashes.22:57
ActionParsnipantnash_: http://notes.veitch.me.uk/?p=3722:57
compdochello22:57
svipJordan_U: Simple Scan says 'No scanners available, please connect a scanner.'22:57
svipFurther more, it says 'Please check your scanner is connected and powered on'.22:58
svipThose I am sure of.22:58
Jordan_Usvip: Does it still work in another OS? "lsusb" hanging is surprising and makes me more suspicious of a hardware fault.22:59
svipJordan_U: It worked before I upgraded.22:59
antnash_hmm. I'm on that page now, I thought I got that one22:59
nerdsmgIts working Jordan_U :)22:59
Jordan_Unerdsmg: Great :). Did you see my message asking if you had originally used the +mac iso or the standard AMD64 one?23:00
nerdsmgNo. I used amd6423:01
svipJordan_U: http://pastebin.com/7KMJvEM823:01
Jordan_UNerdsMcG_: (repeating) To be clear, the +mac iso will *not* help with the problem you're having, but the fact that you got as far as you did without the +mac iso (if you in fact did) means that something has changed with Apple's firmware and that information would be useful for Ubuntu developers to know, see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/63398323:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 633983 in linux (Ubuntu) "Can't boot amd64 live cd on Mac (EFI)" [High,Confirmed]23:02
danilogood evening... this is my first time here... and i'm afraid...  i didn't understand a lot...23:02
nerdsmgGotcha. Ill get this working and see whatsup.23:02
nerdsmgThanks Jordan_U :)23:04
Jordan_Unerdsmg: You're welcome :)23:04
nerdsmgWhat a pain. lol23:05
miceikenYesterday, a while after I plugged in a SD-card in my reader it showed up in 'dmesg', but today it won't show after I plugged it in, any ideas?23:05
Jordan_Udanilo: Welcome to #ubuntu. If you have any questions feel free to just ask them.23:06
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daniloJordan_U: thank you... this is my first time with smuxi... my first time with ubuntu... so... there are a lot of first time for me tonight!23:07
Jordan_Udanilo: You're welcome.23:08
[fields]how can I make ubuntu 11.10 look more like (without unity?)  I've already tried removing unity through the software center.  I don't like the left side icons... I miss the top bar navigation to my programs and places.23:08
antnash_ActionParsnip, nope. No luck23:08
daniloJordan_U: :D23:08
daniloJordan_U: to find a list of channels... what i have to do?23:09
Jordan_U!alis | danilo23:09
ubottudanilo: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu*23:09
daniloubottu: but here in this channel i have to write the command? or directly in the #freenode?23:10
ubottudanilo: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:10
svipJordan_U: Yeah, it is a hardware issue.23:14
svipJordan_U: They suggest I get a new USB cable.23:15
nerdsmgJordan_U:23:15
svipWhich is not a bad idea, because this one was getting dirty.23:15
ActionParsnipantnash_: well that link was pretty much the first link I found. What were you searching for??????23:15
nerdsmgI can still pick the partition for grub, right?23:15
Jordan_Unerdsmg: Grub's boot sector should always be installed to the mbr, even on intel macs.23:16
nerdsmgSorry. Fat fingers plus tablet is bad typing. lol23:16
nerdsmgI thought it was supposed to be on the / partition23:17
nerdsmgEspecially with rEFIt23:17
Jordan_Unerdsmg: No. It's a common myth that grub's boot sector needs to be installed to a partition on intel macs. I don't know how it started, or why it's so prevalant, but it is completely false.23:17
ActionParsnipantnash_: try:  cd /lib/firmware; sudo wget http://www.otit.fi/~crope/v4l-dvb/af9015/af9015_firmware_cutter/firmware_files/4.95.0/dvb-usb-af9015.fw23:18
nerdsmgAnd I can still boot my win partition?23:18
antnash_Cheers ActionParsnip. rebooting.23:19
antnash_Where did you find that one?23:19
Jordan_Unerdsmg: Yes.23:19
ActionParsnipantnash_: what have you been searching for?23:19
ActionParsnipantnash_: I'm finding all this stuff with near zero effort....23:19
antnash_1f4d:3000, HDStar, everything.23:20
nerdsmgThanks for the clarification. I knew I liked IRC for a reason. ;)23:20
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ActionParsnipantnash_: try:    1f4d:3000 ubuntu23:21
antnash_ActionParsnip, still no frontend found in dmesg23:21
antnash_Yeah, tried that23:21
ActionParsnipantnash_: http://www.vdr-portal.de/board60-linux/board61-hardware/p1008439-terratec-cinergy-s2-usb-hd-1f4d-3000-hat-die-jemand/23:21
ActionParsnipantnash_: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/dvb-s-satbox-mini-auf-ubuntu/2/#post-278313123:21
antnash_I'm sure 've been to both of them23:21
antnash_And I s2-liplanian seems to have vanished.23:22
Jordan_Unerdsmg: You're welcome. It's also interesting to note that there are some myths presented as facts on http://refit.sourceforge.net/myths/ .23:23
ActionParsnipantnash_: http://linuxdvb.org.ru/wbb/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=763&pageNo=1    also try23:23
nerdsmgInteresting. Hopefully I'll be in Ubuntu in a few minutes here.23:25
madoocan eny one hellp me please23:27
madooi need hellp23:27
_spt_hello Madoo23:27
madoohello23:27
_spt_private chat?23:27
Jordan_Umadoo: Just ask your question and if anyone can help they will.23:27
Jordan_U!pm | _spt_23:27
ubottu_spt_: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.23:27
madooi have xubuntu i need to be have ubuntu 10.10 but my pc wont setup the u b 10.10 what i have to do23:28
sven_madoo, why does it not set it up? did you try alternative installer cd?23:28
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anon4698Added a idea for here: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/26927 pointing it out so people do vote on it. (it's the one with 1 vote)23:30
Jordan_Umadoo: Why are you trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 rather than 10.04 or 11.10? Please try to form your sentences more clearly and using proper capitalization and punctuation, it will make it much easier for us to understand and help you.23:30
Jordan_U!ot | anon469823:30
ubottuanon4698: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!23:30
reisioanon4698: do these have a tendancy to accomplish anything at all?23:31
Iarryellisoni wish all of the contents on the repositrory should be made on several.iso so it can be downloaded and then can be created as an offline repository23:33
SolarisBoyi wish i could list what packages where installed from a certain repository on the command line =(23:34
madoohello23:35
madooi need hellp23:35
madoocan i find here23:35
edbianmadoo: yes23:35
ActionParsnipSolarisBoy: you can but it'll take some clever awk and greppin23:35
SolarisBoy=) figured... sometimes thats more fun though hehe23:36
SolarisBoyActionParsnip: thanks for confirming23:36
ActionParsnipSolarisBoy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/5976/how-can-i-list-all-packages-ive-installed-from-a-particular-ppa23:36
madooi have xubuntu and i wanna change to ubuntu10.10 what i can do23:36
madoocause when i try to burn the cd of23:37
ActionParsnipmadoo: which versio of Ubuntu do you have now?23:37
chaos_madoo: download 11.04 and install with a boot and boot from cd option23:37
wolfman2_...I don't think my question was answered. If I want to install something from Ubuntu's package manager, do I have to accept its defaults or is there a way I can configure it ala --flags similar to ./configure?23:37
SolarisBoyActionParsnip: nice!! thanks again23:37
madooxubuntu 10.1023:37
madoono i cant do thats23:37
chaos_use a usb stick to install it23:38
madoocan you tell me  abut some thing like sudo apt-get ,,,,,,,, can you23:38
zykotick9wolfman2_, regular packages cannot be customized23:38
ActionParsnipmadoo: you want to change to maverick, but  which Ubuntu version do you have now?23:38
wolfman2_zykotick9: sounds like a balance between ease and power then. Alright, I'll adapt.23:38
madooxubuntu 10.1023:39
Iarryellisonmaddo:you must be sayin you want to install the gnome environment23:39
zykotick9madoo, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"23:39
ActionParsnipmadoo: so you want to switch from XFCE to Gnome?23:39
chaos_wolfman2_: you could always build us a sweet package manager like that!23:40
nerdsmgJordan_U: grub can go on /dev/sda?23:40
s0neeis there any program that prints various system status like conky but in a terminal ?23:40
wolfman2_chaos_: I'm not that skilled in programming yet I'm afraid.23:40
Jordan_Unerdsmg: Can and should. And Ubuntu's installer should do this by default.23:41
reisios0nee: top23:41
s0neereisio: i want to print other statistics like battery etc23:41
nerdsmgIm using the minimal install. ;)23:41
ActionParsnipminimal ftw23:41
nerdsmgHaveto. Dang mbp23:42
nerdsmgUh oh. I froze. It doesn't like kernel modesetting.23:43
rillian_is dualbooting hard?23:46
doctor_hrillian_: nope23:46
Iarryellisoncya latr everyone   .^(.)(.)^.23:46
rillian_doctor_h, ok thanks23:47
chromaticwtunity > gnome323:47
reisiochromaticwt: impossible23:47
antnash_I'm trying to run make menuconfig and it's telling me I need to install ncurses. I've already installed libncurses5-dev23:47
s0neeawesome > gnome shell > unity23:47
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Trizinixxmonad > awesome > gnome shell > unity23:48
Jordan_U!ot23:48
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!23:48
s0neeTrizinix: xmonad ~ awesome, i have not used xmonad. maybe some day i will try23:48
antnash_ActionParsnip, any idea on my ncurses problem?23:49
ActionParsnipantnash_: no idea dude, sorry23:49
madoohello23:50
antnash_bugger. fair play23:50
madoocan eny one hellp me23:50
madoohello23:50
madooi need hellp23:51
madoohello23:51
s0nee!ask | madoo23:51
ubottumadoo: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:51
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miceikenI need some help, yesterday ubuntu discovered my sd-card a while after I plugged it in, but now it doesn't discover it23:52
miceikenany ideas?23:52
miceikenor commands i can run23:52
madooi have kubuntu 11.10 i need to change to 10.10 please23:52
madooi need ubuntu .101023:52
BlouBlou!downgrade | madoo23:52
ubottumadoo: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.23:52
madoomy pc cant do enything i need to change23:53
wdonkeyhello dear people !23:53
madoobut like sudo apt-get,,,,,,,,,, please23:53
Jordan_Umadoo: Is English your first language?23:54
ActionParsnipmadoo: install ubuntu-desktop23:54
ActionParsnipmadoo: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop23:54
madooi did but its not work23:54
[fields]earlier today I copied files from a windows filesystem to an ubuntu filesystem on an external drive.  Now the computer is running ubuntu 11.10 and I've reconnected the external drive with my data, I can browse to my files, but when trying to copy to my computer I get a permissions error.  I tried going to a terminal and 'gksudo nautilus' but I still get the same permissions error when copying.23:54
reisio[fields]: try from a terminal23:55
wdonkeyheres the question, im trying to charge an ipad on my laptop, but it wont work, so i searched and i came up with a bunch of command line, but i must be doing something wrong because it wont work23:55
ActionParsnipmadoo: you need to log off, then select the gnome session when you log in. It doesn't change the desktop automatically23:55
ZeitFightHello! Im trying to add coretemp to /etc/modules but can't find the file on Ubuntu 11.10. Please help!23:56
[fields]reisio:  I don't know how to access (or get to) the external drive23:56
ravenhow to setup an openvpn-server that provides the clients to keep their lan ips also in vpn-network?23:56
reisio[fields]: run 'mount'23:56
ActionParsnipZeitFight: I have t, I suggest you just make it23:56
s0neeZeitFight: hmm try installing lm_sensors ?23:56
madoohello23:57
wdonkeyZeitFight: im using the screenlet manager and i think there is a screenlet by default that can do what you ask23:58
ActionParsnipZeitFight: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72380523:58
Jordan_Umadoo: Is English your first language?23:58
reisioJordan_U: arabic23:58
Jordan_U!arabic | reisio23:59
ubottureisio: For Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية23:59
Sovek|LappyHelp..... I upgraded to 11.10 but now I'm stuck with the unity Gui....23:59
* reisio headdesks :p23:59
reisioSovek|Lappy: mission accomplished?23:59
Sovek|Lappynot entirely, I don't like Unity23:59

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