[00:00] <Aleo> platzhirsch, open the program, then the icon will be there, use right mouse and set Keep in Launcher
[00:00] <WaltherFI> jalal: BT is not officially supported here, sorry
[00:00] <jalal> no brother i m not using bt
[00:01] <jalal> i m using simple ubuntu
[00:01] <jalal> i leave bt
[00:01] <ghostnik11> i have this file cdrtools-3.01a06.tar.gz which i got to install when i had ubuntu 11.04 and it allowed me to burn everything like cue image files to cds i want to install it back again on now this time ubuntu 11.10
[00:01] <platzhirsch> Aleo: I tried this already. It's for Eclipse, I unpacked it into my home folder, but it cannot be startet afterwards from the Launcher
[00:01] <Aleo> platzhirsch, I don't know then ....
[00:02] <jalal> any one solve my problem?
[00:02] <zeracca> jalal -> if you have a laptop, you might need to switch on wireless using the FN key
[00:02] <jalal> my wifi light blinking
[00:02] <yagoo> jalal, lsmod|grep b43 ?
[00:02] <yagoo> jalal, did u try modprobe ssb?
[00:03] <jalal> lsmod nothing gving
[00:03] <yagoo> jalal, modprobe ssb ?
[00:03] <firmevato> in ubuntu 10.04, all of a sudden my 10 punch number keys no longer print numbers, even when I use the number lock key. the arrows actually move my mouse cursor around the screen. how can I change it back to print numberS???
[00:03] <Aleo> platzhirsch, when you install by software center, there is an option also to put it on the launcher
[00:03] <jalal> yagoo do you prv8 email id?
[00:03] <firmevato> and pressing 5 is like a right click??
[00:03] <firmevato> i'm so confused righ tnow
[00:04] <heyitseric> !unity
[00:04] <syra> hmm, well 11.10 looks like a really nice OS, i'll keep it aside for when i can afford a new notebook :]
[00:04] <heyitseric> !nounity
[00:05] <dewanna> hmmm
[00:05] <dewanna> is this the only chat room
[00:06] <p1oooop> dewanna: nope.
[00:06] <beerios> Ok... anyone feeling particularly helpful today?
[00:06] <randomusr> if I have two kernels available, could I install a different video driver for each?
[00:07] <dewanna> how do you change rooms
[00:07] <beerios> with the /join command dewanna
[00:07] <p1oooop> dewanna: /join <somechanngel>
[00:07] <p1oooop> *channel
[00:07] <p1oooop> for example...
[00:07] <p1oooop>  /join ##hardware
[00:08]  * beerios is trying to put ubuntu onto a phone. Or more accurately, chroot into an ubuntu installation. Who's feeling particularly helpful today?
[00:08] <firmevato> my OS is Ubuntu 10.04.   My 10-punch keys are moving my mouse around my screen instead of typing numbers, even after pressing the NumLock key. How can I switch it back to print numbers instead of moving my mouse???
[00:08] <p1oooop> beerios: chroot into ubuntu on a phone? 0.o
[00:09] <stanmala> Hi, I've got a eeepc1001HA with a Ralink RT3090 wifi card, running Ubuntu 11.10. I managed to run a specific driver compiled for 11.04, but now iwconf doesn't show my card & my wifi module doesn't appear on lsmod. Any suggestions, please ?
[00:09] <beerios> yeah
[00:09] <yagoo> jalal, I'm not able to help you. Your english is not at the level we can understand each other. Sorry.
[00:09] <p1oooop> beerios: sounds possible.
[00:09] <jalal> i will try to  speak clear
[00:09] <p1oooop> beerios: what's your phone's arch?
[00:09] <firmevato> and then when I use the touchpad again, the mouse starts off in the bottom right corner at the trash bin?
[00:09] <beerios> I know it can be done, p1oooop, others have already done it. My only problem is that I don't have a valid ext2.ko module to insmod, and I need someone with the patience to talk me through making one or making one for me
[00:10] <zykotick9> firmevato, turn off "Mouse Keys" probably in Accessibility options somewhere.
[00:10] <platzhirsch> Aleo: yep, thank you :)
[00:10] <p1oooop> beerios: sorry, but I'm not the most patient person :P
[00:10] <yagoo> jalal, Your native language is not english. I suggested joining a conference of people speaking your native language.
[00:10] <jalal> yagoo please brother
[00:10] <jalal> i can speak
[00:10] <firmevato> zykotick9, thank you
[00:10] <jalal> brother just guide me what should i do for my wifi?
[00:11]  * yagoo asked jalal what was the last line of his paste. < and couldn't understand this concept -- "last line of" meant
[00:11] <wozz> anyone good with vnc server configs?  can't get any sort of taskbar/menus to show up when connecting to my 11.10 tightvncserver
[00:11] <nsd_> I have a wireless device that seems to only send packets at a rate of once per minute. It's brand new, and I don't think I had the issue prior to upgrading (it's not my machine, but being the designated Linux nerd of the house, I'm responsible for fixing it)
[00:11] <p1oooop> beerios: so, you need to install a module on the android kernel?
[00:11] <beerios> my phone's processor is an MT6516. Architecture is "armv5tejl" according to something I did.
[00:11] <jalal> brother you give me command
[00:11] <jalal> so i got following out put
[00:11] <jalal> so i paste in here
[00:12] <jalal> so i am confuse
[00:12] <grisen> hi chocolates
[00:12] <firmevato> zykotick9, I found it and fixed it, thank you very much.
[00:12] <firmevato> I have no idea how I accidentally turned on mouse keys tho
[00:12] <jalal> ok yagoo sorry to disturb you
[00:12] <jalal> have a nice day
[00:12] <jalal> bye
[00:13] <Madpilot> jalal, don't paste here, please. Paste to a pastebin, then just give us the pastebin URL.
[00:13] <p1oooop> firmevato: lots of people do things unintentionally. eg: me.
[00:13] <Madpilot> ubottu, pastebin | jalal
[00:13] <p1oooop> I remember deleting the entire OS once... oops.
[00:13] <p1oooop> rm -R / is never a good idea.
[00:13] <jalal> ok brother i got it
[00:13] <jalal> i was just hoping that you guys will help me
[00:13] <beerios> Something like that, p1oooop. I was hoping a linux whiz could help me with it. I don't need to have it automatically load during boot, I have root on the phone and busybox on it, and a terminal emulator, and the android debugger on my PC... If I can just get an ext2.ko that'll load when I try to insmod it, I'll be able to mount ext2 partitions, and I'll be all set to figure the rest out from there :)
[00:14] <jalal> i was wrong
[00:14] <syra> 'if you don't know what your looking for, you wont find it and if you don't know where you're going, i can't help you' ~Anonymous
[00:14] <jalal> i have to go
[00:14] <jalal> bye
[00:14] <drfrenzy> any one can help with firefox fonts?
[00:15] <yagoo> beerios, that's a grub issue.. by default u should always have ext2/3/4 grub support (grub2 has its own module system)-- u may ask #grub for this -- you're asking advanced things
[00:15] <p1oooop> beerios: I'm not necessarily a linux wiz, but I do have a little experience with modules... The only thing I that I don't know how to compile them separately from the linux kernel... nor do I know how to import them into android...
[00:15] <beerios> hrm
[00:16] <beerios> I'll ask around again with the Android people... That was my first stop a couple of days ago, but it didn't get me anywhere... yet :P
[00:16] <p1oooop> wow. that's... awful.
[00:16] <joao> beerios, you may want to get into the devs irc channel search google
[00:16] <yagoo> beerios, there's a whole android community out there.. dunno why you're asking here..
[00:16] <drfrenzy> guyyysss any one can help with firefox fonts?
[00:16] <vvor> drfrenzy: what is the Q.?
[00:17]  * p1oooop hasn't messed with firefox before. the defalt settings keep me satiated.
[00:17] <beerios> yagoo, the android community was my first stop, I couldn't seem to get anyone's attention
[00:17] <p1oooop> hold up a giant sign asking for help there... LOL
[00:17] <beerios> lol
[00:17] <joao> beerios, google then
[00:17] <beerios> I've been googling it for a week
[00:17] <yagoo> beerios, gimme a break.
[00:18] <joao> which brings me to my recent appalling discovery
[00:18] <yagoo> pff
[00:18] <stanmala> issue with my wifi card on 11.10, any help please ?... :-)
[00:18] <yagoo> sure u have..
[00:18] <beerios> I don't know enough to go compiling kernels and stuff unless someone can walk me through it step by step
[00:18] <yagoo> android is created by google..
[00:18] <joao> I think I am being constantly monitored
[00:18] <yagoo> jeesh
[00:18] <Aleo> platzhirsch, are you there ?
[00:18] <yagoo> stanmala, and what chipset
[00:18] <joao> I was about 2 months or so without using google
[00:19] <beerios> and I really don't want to go compiling a new kernel and probably turning my phone into a brick. I just want to get a kernel module that'll load when I try to load it with insmod :)
[00:19] <joao> and suddenly my search results are completely different
[00:19] <haylo-bot_> there is a good walkthrough on you tube for making kernel using a gui in linux mint- i forgot the name of the tool but i am sure you can DL it in ubuntu it is three parts and easy to find
[00:19] <stanmala> Ralink RT3090 on a netbook (Asus Eeepc 1001HA)
[00:19] <joao> getting a redirected page all the time
[00:19] <Aleo> platzhirsch, try open dash, then type main menu, it should appear an icon, click and then it opens a window to edit the programs you want to launch
[00:19] <stanmala> yagoo, Ralink RT3090 on a netbook (Asus Eeepc 1001HA)
[00:19] <joao> thought there isn't spyware in linux ;)
[00:20] <Candyman> hello all
[00:20] <platzhirsch> Aleo: yes, I found this already. Funny thing is (NOT) when I use the buttons nothings happens
[00:20] <platzhirsch> when I start this tool (alacarte) via terminal, I get some nasty errors
[00:20] <Candyman> I have a question.
[00:20] <Aleo> strange
[00:20] <yagoo> stanmala, (use sudo as nec), lsmod |grep rt3090sta
[00:21] <platzhirsch> Guess I have to figure out how to fix these errors :)
[00:21] <p1oooop> !ask > Candyman
[00:21] <beerios> I was going to try using the ext2.ko from jaunty for ARM, but then I don't know whether I would want the dove or i.mx51 version. I couldn't find an answer on the ubuntu forums about it, either. The only people asking were mistaken and actually just needed the i386 version. But I know I have an ARMv5 cpu in my phone, so...
[00:21] <p1oooop> beerios: hm, what compiler is android compiled by?
[00:22] <beerios> I really don't know about that stuff, p1oooop
[00:22] <Candyman> How can I add software to the ubuntu customization kit which is outside from the synaptic? (sorry for my english)
[00:22] <p1oooop> beerios: darn.
[00:22] <yagoo> beerios, #1 You have to know your hardware INSIDE-OUT. #2- You need to do your homework with an ARM-training book.  You can't do anything without knowing #1.
[00:22]  * p1oooop assumes GCC
[00:22] <beerios> errr
[00:22] <yagoo> errrr < nope. You learn. Go read a book about your hardware.
[00:22] <Aleo> anyway, hope they launch soon Ubuntu 12.0
[00:22] <Aleo> :)
[00:23] <Jeruvy> Next year ;)
[00:23] <platzhirsch> why?
[00:23] <joao> beerios, what is the purpose of your hacking? I did a couple of crazy things just for the fun of it but it was ages ago
[00:23] <p1oooop> Aleo: 12.4 ;)
[00:23] <beerios> look, I just want to be able to mount ext2 partitions to start with... I know I need an ext2.ko that doesn't fail when I try to load it with insmod
[00:23] <stanmala> yagoo, no answer on sudo lsmod |grep rt3090sta
[00:23] <Aleo> or that
[00:23] <Aleo> :)
[00:23] <platzhirsch> I mean 12 is a nice number, buts not even odd
[00:23] <p1oooop> or was it .4... hm
[00:23] <platzhirsch> "not even odd" hilarious
[00:23] <yagoo> stanmala, modprobe rt3090sta, then ..
[00:23] <p1oooop> I forgot when ubuntu makes its releasees again... darn it.
[00:23] <yagoo> stanmala, lsmod |grep rt3090sta
[00:23] <p1oooop> 04 & 10
[00:23] <yagoo> stanmala, lsmod simply lists btw.. and does nothing extraordinary
[00:23] <p1oooop> so, 12.04
[00:23] <Jeruvy> p1oooop, April and October
[00:24] <stanmala> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.old, it will be ignored in a future release.
[00:24] <stanmala> FATAL: Module rt3090sta not found.
[00:24] <beerios> joao, I figure if I can chroot into ubuntu on my phone, it'll be far more useful to me for everything other than just calls and SMS, seeing as I'd be able to use ubuntu's packages to install whatever I wanted
[00:24] <p1oooop> Jeruvy: yes, 4 and 10... names don't work very well for me for whatever reason
[00:25] <platzhirsch> Aleo: installing gnome-panel via packet manager fixed the problem :)
[00:25] <Name141> is it possible to get back to the actual Gnome look ('ubuntu-classic' another words) in 11.10 ?
[00:25] <platzhirsch> alacarte/main menu works now
[00:25] <Candyman> How can I add software to the ubuntu customization kit which is outside from the synaptic?
[00:25] <Aleo> platzhirsch, good :)
[00:25] <beerios> basically, really turn it into a fully-fledged handheld PC, software-wise.
[00:25] <stanmala> yagoo, modprobe rt3090sta returns :  WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.old, it will be ignored in a future release. FATAL: Module rt3090sta not found.
[00:26] <Jeruvy> Name141: before you login, select 'gnome-classic'
[00:26] <joao> beerios, so you want to chroot from ubuntu to the android file system, correct? or you want to chroot from android to your ubuntu?
[00:26] <Name141> Jeruvy: I thought it was taking out in 11.10 ?
[00:26] <beerios> from android into ubuntu
[00:27] <Aleo> brb
[00:27] <yagoo> stanmala, i think i can help u..
[00:27] <logicbomb> hey
[00:27] <stanmala> yagoo, great !! :)
[00:27] <Jeruvy> Name141, I don't think its removed, but I may be wrong.
[00:27] <stanmala> yagoo, 've been searching for hours...
[00:27] <beerios> I want to keep android, because I think I need it for some of the hardware in the phone to function properly. I'd like to be able to chroot into ubuntu too, though, for everything else other than calls and texting.
[00:28] <joao> beerios, and what your your connection? bluetooth? usb? do you know they work fine already I assume, no?
[00:28] <logicbomb> Anybody know if there is a way to disable only the dock part of unity, on Oneiric Ocelot?
[00:28] <Name141> Jeruvy: http://linux-software-news-tutorials.blogspot.com/2011/10/ubuntu-1110-oneiric-remove-unity-and.html , maybe this will do it ?
[00:28] <yagoo> stanmala, well this guy made a .deb for it (but i think its only i386-- not 64bit) https://launchpad.net/~markus-tisoft/+archive/rt3090 -- but i think the company has a tarball for it as well
[00:28] <beerios> yes, all the hardware seems to be working fine, I just can't mount ext2 partitions at the moment, is my major stumbling block.
[00:28] <joao> beerios, or you extracted a live image of ubuntu into the sd card?
[00:29] <Candyman> How can I add software to the ubuntu customization kit which is outside from the synaptic?
[00:30] <joao> well, is usb or have you tried internal SD card?
[00:30] <logicbomb> big large erect phallic objects
[00:31] <joao> I would try to extract a ubuntu image into an minisd card and then chroot from android, no? if you use VFAT (fat32) you don't have to worry about anything
[00:31] <beerios> joao, I have a .img file that I assume was created with dd, it's like a whole partition in the file. The file was on the SD card, but I couldn't mount it, although my loop devices seem to be fine. It's the ext2 support that I don't have. I dropped some binaries onto the phone, and I can run e2fsck on the image file, and on an ext2 partition I created on the SD card, and that works. I just can't *mount* the ext2 partitions.
[00:32] <yagoo> stanmala, good news?
[00:32] <stanmala> yagoo, I've already install his great compiled driver, that's the pb. It worked on 11.04 after blacklisting some of its modules. Then upgrading to 11.10, I had to "un-blacklist" the same modules. It worked for a while. Then a new upgrade made it all disappear...
[00:32] <Name141> Jeruvy: I think I'll check it out in a virtual machine first.  Then if I can't figure anything I'll go with Xubuntu or something more resonable than unity before I go ahead and do the partitions and dual boot .
[00:32] <stanmala> yagoo, what's a tarball
[00:32] <missPapaya> I created a package and I have a local repository. Can I add the package to the repository some how?
[00:32] <Candyman> No one know anything about ubuntu customization kit?
[00:33] <stanmala> yagoo, and yes I'm on a i386 chipset
[00:33] <Jeruvy> Name141, you could boot from livecd also (rather than VM), but same difference.
[00:33] <Archenom> mmm ubuntu customization kit
[00:33] <phong_> hi guys
[00:33] <phong_> clear
[00:33] <yagoo> stanmala, did u have any luck with the .deb ?
[00:33] <Name141> Jeruvy: I'm just trying to ween myself off of XP before 2014.. and thought I might as well anyway since it's so old.
[00:33] <beerios> I've narrowed the reason for being unable to mount the ext2 partitions down to not having a kernel module for them. I have no idea why I can run e2fsck on the ext2 partitions without the kernel module, but apparently, I can.
[00:33] <joao> ah!......
[00:34] <stanmala> yagoo, no, I've tried it twice, nothing new with it
[00:34] <Jeruvy> Name141, well you carry on then :)
[00:34] <home> I have a hp 1006 printer that used to work on ubuntu 10.10, now in 11.04 and 11.10 it wont print now.  shows its installed, needs a plugin but wont download the plugin, any suggestions?
[00:34] <joao> assuming android 2.1?
[00:34] <yagoo> stanmala, omg they have a tarball but their f tarball link is dead --> http://web.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html
[00:34] <yagoo> bastards..
[00:34] <beerios> 2.2.1, with kernel 2.6.32.9
[00:34] <Name141> Jeruvy: yeah lol.  I'm just wondering if this machine would be better running a 'smaller' one ?  (like xubuntu anyway)
[00:35] <stanmala> yagoo, when apt-get upgrade, this driver search for the oneiric version, but it has not been compiled yet
[00:35] <Archenom> can I ask questions about backtrack in here?
[00:35] <sol1x> ofc you can
[00:35] <joao> was this you? http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/huawei-ideos-s7-technical/17710-help-mounting-ext2-partition-2-2-2-a.html
[00:35] <Archenom> ok sweet
[00:35] <Jeruvy> Name141, Ubuntu today requires some decent hardware.  Lubuntu is the lightest weight of them all, Xubuntu would be next.
[00:35] <stanmala> yagoo, and I think my crash comes from here
[00:36] <Name141> Jeruvy: E2160 should be decent enough? Yet the CelronD single core in the living room seems faster sometimes :/
[00:36] <joao> beerios, http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f4/seeing-ext2-17355/
[00:36] <beerios> no, I haven't been posting on forums, I've just been reading them and scouring IRC, and searching the net for ext2.ko files, of which I found and tried about half a dozen with no success
[00:36] <kanada> irssi via ssh through my blackberry!
[00:36] <yagoo> stanmala, i found some interesting results.. if that .deb doesnt help.. _RT3090_Linux tarball
[00:36] <yagoo> stanmala, crash? what crash?
[00:36] <beerios> I think because mostly I was getting ones that were compiled for ARMv6 or ARMv7 when my processor is ARMv5
[00:37] <yagoo> stanmala, oh ya?
[00:37] <Jeruvy> Name141: thats a decent enough proc for sure.
[00:37] <yagoo> stanmala, what term did u search with apt?
[00:37] <stanmala> yagoo, no , not a real crash,
[00:37] <joao> I would also try my method because i have chrooted into vfat before and it worked fine
[00:37] <stanmala> yagoo, but can't see my wifi card anymore
[00:38] <yagoo> stanmala, dpkg -l|grep -i rt
[00:38] <yagoo> stanmala, did u try the .deb-- Yes or No ?
[00:38] <joao> beerios, there was a time I had time and patience for kernel modules but now I can't compile much of anything now
[00:38] <Name141> Jeruvy: Has ubuntu gotten any worse since hardy? in terms of needing processor/GPU power ? I was running that before I started getting in to PC gaming.
[00:38] <stanmala> yagoo, yes I've tried it
[00:38] <beerios> hrm
[00:38] <yagoo> stanmala, we can remove the script of the other thing later..
[00:38] <stanmala> yagoo, nothing
[00:39] <yagoo> stanmala, dpkg -Lp <debfilename>
[00:39] <beerios> I'm not sure I can extract the .img into a vfat partition properly. I think I tried and got errors about it not supporting special files, like device files
[00:39] <yagoo> stanmala, there wired net to this?
[00:39] <joao> just have a recent sneaky script that I changed to work with vpnc into cisco and then start remote desktop
[00:39] <yagoo> stanmala, nmind..
[00:39] <joao> I am not the original author though ;)
[00:40] <yagoo> beerios, do you know what "vfat" means?
[00:40] <toni> how do I install the cheese in the ubuntu 11:10
[00:40] <yagoo> beerios, there's no such thing as a vfat partition
[00:40] <beerios> I assumed it was just another name for FAT32
[00:40] <stanmala> yagoo, I'm a newbie, sorry it takes me longtime to type and search
[00:40] <yagoo> beerios, vfat is a linux module
[00:40] <Jeruvy> Name141, depends on your definition of worseu
[00:41] <Name141> Jeruvy: "needs more 'power'"
[00:41] <yagoo> stanmala, anything with "lib/modules" ?
[00:41] <yagoo> stanmala, u can grep that-- dpkg -lp <debfilename>|grep module
[00:41] <Jeruvy> Name141, then yes it does/is.
[00:41] <yagoo> stanmala, no actualyl use -Lp (not -lp)
[00:41] <beerios> Ok, well I got the impression it was another name for FAT32 from it being "vfat" in the type option when you mount a FAT32 partition
[00:41] <joao> yagoo, in my linux there is type
[00:42] <joao> yes
[00:42] <stanmala> yagoo, I'm still searching
[00:42] <Name141> Jeruvy: I guess the only thing to do is to try it..
[00:44] <yagoo> stanmala, btw did u try the rt3090-dkms_2.4.0.4-0ubuntu0~ppa0_all.deb package ?
[00:44] <stanmala> yagoo, yep
[00:44] <Rocky_^> hello
[00:44] <Rocky_^> i love ubuntu
[00:45] <Rocky_^> hello wor
[00:45] <Archenom> boo windows 8 and the cloud! backtrack5 forever
[00:46] <zykotick9> Rocky_^, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[00:46] <yagoo> stanmala, did u try installing the other dependency?
[00:46] <SKG> 'Ello~ I was wondering if it was possible to run Ubuntu 11.10 from a External Hard Drive? I tried looking around but other people had different answers... =\
[00:46] <stanmala> yagoo, what other one
[00:47] <yagoo> stanmala, well it says dkms is needed..
[00:47] <yagoo> stanmala, so i'm guessing it's already installed for you
[00:47] <yagoo> (dpkg -l dkms)
[00:47] <zykotick9> SKG, yes it's possible.  Be aware that during install Grub will probably default to installing onto your main HD, which you might not want.
[00:47] <stanmala> yagoo, rt3090-dkms_2.4.0.4-0ubuntu0~ppa0_all.debI think so
[00:47] <stanmala> yagoo, *sorry, I think so
[00:47] <vvor> SKG: no problem!
[00:47] <yagoo> stanmala, do-> apt-get install -f
[00:48] <SKG> Do you perhaps have a link to a guide I can use? Sorry for the trouble, and thanks for the earlier replies. ^^
[00:49] <vvor> SKG: regular install point to the ext. HD
[00:49] <SKG> Okay, so I just install to the external hdd when it's plugged in while in installation?
[00:49] <SKG> Sorry, but had to ask, kuz Grub was mentioned earlier...
[00:50] <vvor> SKG: setup bios to boot ext. HD
[00:50] <yagoo> stanmala, dude.. that package upon installing it should of start compiling the module
[00:50] <reisio> SKG: there is literally no extra step
[00:51] <SKG> Okay, thanks.
[00:51] <reisio> a disk is a disk
[00:51] <reisio> to Linux
[00:51] <stanmala> yagoo, nothing new involved after apt-get install -f
[00:51] <yagoo> stanmala, did u let the compile finish?
[00:51] <SKG> How do I get it to uh, boot the external hard drive? I know when you have two OS installed on one drive it usually asks which to boot, but I'm not sure in this instance.
[00:51] <yagoo> stanmala, what are the modules with it? find /lib/modules|grep -i rt3
[00:51] <SKG> Is that the bios to boot ext. hd thing?
[00:52] <reisio> SKG: GRUB should auto detect if you have multiple OSes
[00:52] <reisio> otherwise: no extra step
[00:52] <SKG> Okay, thank you very much.
[00:52] <stanmala> yagoo, I think I didn"t disturb the compile process
[00:52] <reisio> SKG: just pretend like it's inside your computer box
[00:52] <yagoo> stanmala, just a sec
[00:52] <SKG> Do habe a link for GRUB? If so it'd be appreciated, if not I can always look.
[00:53] <stanmala> yagoo, t/lib/modules/2.6.32-26-generic/kernel/drivers/staging/rt3090
[00:53] <stanmala> /lib/modules/2.6.32-26-generic/kernel/drivers/staging/rt3090/rt3090sta.ko
[00:53] <stanmala> /lib/modules/2.6.31-11-rt/kernel/drivers/staging/rt3070
[00:53] <stanmala> /lib/modules/2.6.31-11-rt/kernel/drivers/staging/rt3070/rt3070sta.ko
[00:53] <stanmala> he command returns
[00:53] <FloodBot1> stanmala: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:53] <stanmala> yagoo, oops, sorry
[00:54] <missPapaya> does anybody know how to work with apt mirrors?
[00:54] <vvor> SKG: you can set bios to boot from usb or any other ext. dev. and install linux AND Grub to that HD ie. if you have regular HD it will not boot if you do not swetch th bios seting
[00:54] <reisio> missPapaya: pay them a reasonable wage
[00:55] <missPapaya> reisio: hurr
[00:55] <reisio> right hurr
[00:55] <missPapaya> thurr?
[00:55] <missPapaya> or hurr?
[00:56] <reisio> the 't' is silent when you don't include it :p
[00:56] <missPapaya> reisio: do you know how to add a custom package to a local repository?
[00:57] <yagoo> stanmala, there's some hints in the readme of /usr/src/rt*/README* .. apparently the named module is 2860..
[00:57] <haylo-bot_> i think the repo chhoses the package and you choose the repo
[00:57] <yagoo> stanmala, find /lib/modules |grep 2860
[00:57] <vvor> SKG you can install Grub to the local HD and boot from the USB ext. HD that whay you do not need to change bios setup
[00:57] <yagoo> stanmala, i'm not sure if rt3090sta was from that .deb
[00:58] <TransX2> Is Ubuntu cool?
[00:58] <stanmala> yagoo, so I said        find /lib/modules|grep -i rt3        returns         /lib/modules/2.6.32-26-generic/kernel/drivers/staging/rt3090          /lib/modules/2.6.32-26-generic/kernel/drivers/staging/rt3090/rt3090sta.ko      /lib/modules/2.6.31-11-rt/kernel/drivers/staging/rt3070      /lib/modules/2.6.31-11-rt/kernel/drivers/staging/rt3070/rt3070sta.ko
[00:58] <yagoo> stanmala, i just checked.. ya this should be it
[00:58] <yagoo> stanmala, try that one..
[00:58] <yagoo> stanmala, modprobe rt3090sta
[00:58] <yagoo> stanmala, then see if its loaded really-- lsmod |grep rt3090
[00:59] <TransX2> No?
[00:59] <reisio> TransX2: it's um
[00:59] <reisio> TransX2: compared to Windows it is
[00:59] <reisio> and to nothing
[00:59] <stanmala> yagoo, lsmod for rt3090 returns nothing
[00:59] <reisio> and Mac OS
[01:00] <vvor> SKG: but inthis way you will not be able to take the ext. HD and use it on any other PC.
[01:00] <stanmala> yagoo, WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.old, it will be ignored in a future release.                FATAL: Module rt3090sta not found.
[01:00] <zykotick9> vvor, SKG has left (i think)
[01:00] <TransX2> What do you like about Ubuntu that windows or Mac can't do or doesn't have?
[01:00] <vvor> zykotick9: yep!
[01:00] <reisio> TransX2: take your pick
[01:00] <zykotick9> !ot | TransX2
[01:01] <yagoo> stanmala, depmod -a
[01:01] <yagoo> stanmala, then try the modprobe rt3090sta
[01:01] <sm1> stanmala: to load rt3030 , rt3070 must be unloadded and blacklisted as well.
[01:01] <TransX2> Fine, geeez, didn't even know there was such a channel. Sorry.
[01:01] <yagoo> sm1, he's not loading rt3030
[01:01] <stanmala> yagoo, I've picked this mod http://ppa.launchpad.net/markus-tisoft/rt3090/ubuntu/pool/main/r/rt3090/
[01:03] <yagoo> stanmala, i'm getting my miniitx soon-- and it'll be using a similar chipset..
[01:03] <mikodo> Hello, Can anyone point me towards a guide for no0bs for this probem:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/722797/
[01:03] <stanmala> yagoo, depmod returns      FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/3.0.0-13-generic/modules.dep.temp for writing: Permission denied
[01:04] <yagoo> stanmala, :)
[01:04] <yagoo> sorry too many compile warnings ..
[01:04] <reisio> mikodo: can't read all that, what's the problem
[01:04] <yagoo> hard to decipher..
[01:04] <stanmala> yagoo, OK, no pb, I can manage on wire for a moment, I will check on xchat after Haloween time :)
[01:05] <yagoo> stanmala, i can do it for you if u want..
[01:05] <mikodo> yag
[01:05] <yagoo> np
[01:05] <stanmala> yagoo, what... can u compile it, you mean ?...
[01:06] <mikodo> I reformatted my external Hard drive by mistake and now I don't know how to make a mount point for it and mount it
[01:06] <stanmala> yagoo, thanks already for your time ! ^_^
[01:07] <yagoo> mikodo, what's the problem? u can't mount the partition of format? (btw u formatted an ext4 without a label name)
[01:08] <yagoo> mikodo, btw e2label can volume rename ext4 filesystesm
[01:08] <zykotick9> mikodo, using "sudo mount LABEL="New Volume" /mnt" would mount your sdf1 to /mnt (using its Label)
[01:08] <stanmala> yagoo, night time in France, I'm logging out now, cheers!
[01:08] <yagoo> stanmala, bye bye
[01:09] <mikodo> yagoo, e2label .... I look for that
[01:09] <yagoo> e2lable /dev/sdf1
[01:09] <zykotick9> mikodo, e2label would just be for renaming the "New Volume" btw
[01:09] <yagoo> ,/e2label/
[01:11] <mikodo> zykotick9,  can you give me the command as Backup and have it mount to /media
[01:12] <vvor> mikodo: mount /dev/sdf1 /media
[01:13] <zykotick9> mikodo, <i don't recommend using /media> but 1st "sudo mkdir /media/Backup" then mount with "sudo mount LABEL=Backup /media/Backup"
[01:13] <mikodo> vvor, ok I'll play with tha
[01:13] <zykotick9> mikodo, DON'T use vvor's!
[01:13] <mikodo> zykotick9,  OK
[01:14] <miceiken> How do I check whether ubuntu supports my sd-card reader or not?
[01:14] <Tech-1> What i'm trying to do is change sudo time out for asking for password..shorten it.. how can i do that ?
[01:14] <zykotick9> miceiken, plug it in with a card, and check dmesg's output
[01:15] <reisio> miceiken: it does
[01:15] <zykotick9> Tech-1, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=763142
[01:16] <vvor> Tech-1: OR http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=sudo+time+out&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[01:16] <miceiken> zykotick9 just a bunch of tcp stuff
[01:16] <zykotick9> miceiken, did you just plug it in?
[01:16] <miceiken> yes
[01:17] <zykotick9> miceiken, then that might be a bad sign
[01:17] <Tech-1> ok, thanks
[01:17] <miceiken> well
[01:17]  * Tech-1 looks
[01:17] <miceiken> do i need to mount it or something
[01:17] <tlm> Weird can't get sound out of either the speakers or headphone jack on an Acer Travelmate 2413LCi, LSHW = http://pastebin.com/dT4aHNbk APLAY and LPCI = http://pastebin.com/1TtPGvAA
[01:17] <zykotick9> miceiken, mount requires a device, and dmesg would tell if the kernel sees the device...
[01:18] <miceiken> hmm
[01:18] <miceiken> i dont have any other sd card readers :<
[01:18] <Tech-1> cool, thanks zykotick9
[01:19] <miceiken> anything else i can do to make sure zykotick9
[01:19] <zykotick9> miceiken, with it still plugged in see if "sudo fdisk -l" shows it?
[01:19] <jam2011> I am getting disconnected from this channel... why is it so
[01:20] <AndroUser> hi
[01:20] <miceiken> http://pastebin.com/FE1tS32x zykotick9 doesnt appear so
[01:20] <RickAcces> My Spirit book is online thank Dr. Gaind the Magnificiant for Perfection and Dignity and the rest of the spiritual brothers and sisters worldwide: http://sourceforge.net/projects/centrybook/files/ Thanks ubuntu and java software dev on ubuntu.
[01:21] <zykotick9> miceiken, can you pastebin your dmesg output?
[01:22] <miceiken> zykotick9 wall of text is about to hit you
[01:22] <miceiken> http://pastebin.com/d1GB0Xem
[01:22] <miceiken> keep in mind that this is a server, am i missing a package perhaps?
[01:22] <miceiken> im a linux noobie
[01:23] <zykotick9> miceiken, i don't see ANYTHING about you connecting your card reader :(
[01:23] <miceiken> hmm, well, thanks for your help anyway :)
[01:23] <zykotick9> miceiken, can you unplug it, wait 3 seconds, plug it back in - then check if there is anything new in dmesg?
[01:23] <miceiken> sure
[01:23] <miceiken> hang on
[01:24] <miceiken> wow
[01:24] <miceiken> now something haddened
[01:24] <miceiken> happened
[01:24] <FloodBot1> miceiken: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:24] <miceiken> http://paste.ubuntu.com/722807/ zykotick9
[01:24] <miceiken> this just popped out
[01:24] <vvor> miceiken: do you have/had any USB dev work is USB inanled in bios
[01:24] <zykotick9> miceiken, "sudo mount /dev/sdd1 /mnt" should now work
[01:25] <miceiken> great
[01:25] <ga_pro1988> ux
[01:25] <qmanjr5> How do I find how much space I have and is taken on my drive?
[01:25] <miceiken> vvor, i dont understand your question :P
[01:25] <Mesaph> Hi, i need help. I installed kubuntu 11.10 yesterday on my netbook, but it crashed 4 times and i cant figure out why. The Screen turns black, a lot of text scrolls through the window and it ends with "panic occured; switching to text console". I cant find a log of any of the crashes, but im fairly new to linux, so i might miss something obvious. Google doesnt help much, there are various threads of people who get a similiar error message,
[01:25] <Mesaph> but it doesnt seem related as my crash isnt really reproducable..
[01:25] <zykotick9> qmanjr5, "df -h"
[01:25] <miceiken> anyway, regarding my other question. what commands are there to flush cache, remove old logs etc?
[01:26] <reisio> qmanjr5: baobab
[01:26] <qmanjr5> Thank you zykotick9 and reisio
[01:26] <zykotick9> miceiken, "sudo apt-get clean" deletes downloaded apt packages.
[01:27] <miceiken> that one i know of
[01:27] <vvor> miceiken: lookup log rotation
[01:28] <joao> ltr nit nit tx
[01:28] <miceiken> zykotick9, how do i unmount it again?
[01:28] <joao> umount
[01:28] <miceiken> vvor, thanks i will
[01:28] <zykotick9> miceiken, "sudo umount /mnt"
[01:29] <vvor> miceiken: I was thinking maybe your USB was desabled in the bios, as it may be in servers, but it looks like it's working now!
[01:29] <miceiken> vvor, yep, i got it working magicly now
[01:29] <miceiken> :D
[01:30] <vvor> miceiken: I would say zykotick9'ly ;-)
[01:30] <miceiken> haha
[01:31] <ghostnik11> hi are these the correct commands to burn a cue image using cdrecord in terminal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/722811/
[01:32] <msch> hi guys, stupid question, where did the ubuntu-base package go?
[01:32] <reisio> ghostnik11: the space between MEGAMAN and X4 alone is probably going to make it fail
[01:33] <zykotick9> ghostnik11, i didn't think cdrecord could burn bin/cue images???
[01:33] <miceiken> how come sometimes when i wget stuff
[01:33] <reisio> ghostnik11: type MEG, then hit TAB
[01:33] <miceiken> i get like the php file
[01:33] <reisio> miceiken: try with quotes around the URI
[01:33] <miceiken> still
[01:34] <reisio> miceiken: then it's a redirect, or the server is expecting more from the UA than wget gives by default
[01:34] <reisio> like possibly a cookie
[01:34] <reisio> or a referer
[01:34] <reisio> or sometimes it's just dumb
[01:34] <reisio> sometimes people send JPEG images as .php extensions with crazy query strings
[01:34] <ghostnik11> reisio; will try MEG and hit tab
[01:35] <zykotick9> ghostnik11, ya, you might require cdrdao for bin/cue
[01:35] <reisio> or just bin2iso
[01:36] <miceiken> im so bad with this stuff, the wiki isnt exactly great at explaining the frequently used commands - how do I copy stuff over? I had thought cp * /mnt/* would do
[01:36] <zykotick9> reisio, that would destory the origional disks image... you'd probably lose audio tracks then.  ghostnik11
[01:36] <bdrewery> miceiken: cp * /mnt/
[01:36] <ghostnik11> zykotick9: the thing is cdrdao didn't work to burn the files like cue when i tried with brasero and k3b back in 11.04 - ubuntu, and had to install cdrtools, but this time i went with the ppa by brandon snider
[01:36] <daeos> I recently upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and want to know why is it that when I installed zsnes that all of my other games were uninstalled (ex. OpenArena & Mana World) and when I try to install any other game, zsnes is said to be removed.
[01:37] <reisio> I guess it depends on what the image is of
[01:37] <xxiao> close any window will disable input to gnome-terminal, click outside the terminal will return it to normal, konsole has no such issue, am i the only one seeing this on 10.04/64bit?
[01:37] <zykotick9> ghostnik11, sorry my cdrecord/cdrdao knowledge might be out of date - i haven't used either in years.  Good luck.
[01:38] <ghostnik11> zykotick9: i am going to uninstall the brandon snider ppa of cdrtools and try to manually install cdrtools from another website from source, thanks for the help though bro
[01:39] <Tech-1> worked like a charm , zykotick9 , much appreciated
[01:39] <Clerisy> I just accidently deleted the wrong partition via gparted is there a way to restore it? please help
[01:39] <zykotick9> Tech-1, nice!
[01:39] <Tech-1> have a super day
[01:40]  * Tech-1 out
[01:40] <reisio> Clerisy: you actually did the 'apply' bit?
[01:40] <reisio> or whatever gparted calls its execut actions thing
[01:40] <Clerisy> reisio» i thought it was a different partition
[01:40] <reisio> Clerisy: that doesn't answer my question
[01:40] <Clerisy> reisio» yes
[01:40] <zykotick9> !info testdisk | Clerisy
[01:41] <meti_> I have Medion RIM2060 with Sigmatel Audio ..need a driver ,can anyone help me
[01:41] <meti_> ?
[01:41] <meti_> Medion Laptop
[01:41] <miceiken> bdrewery what if i want to move like a folder
[01:42] <bdrewery> miceiken: move or copy?
[01:42] <miceiken> copy
[01:42] <meti_> Is thre any Ubuntu expert?!!
[01:42] <happyface> why is xstartup using 99% cpu usage?
[01:42] <bdrewery> miceiken: cp -r /path/to/src /path/to/dst
[01:43] <bdrewery> miceiken: see also: man cp, man mv
[01:43] <newmar> wich codec i need use to my music songs when i pass the mouse above of the icon?
[01:43] <fugazi> anyone good at derivatives?  i find y = (x^(2/3))/(x-1) and y' = [(x^(2\3)(1))-(x-1)*(2\3)x^(-1/3)]/((x-1)^2) unsimplified.  anyone dissagree?
[01:44] <zykotick9> newmar, (i could be wrong) but i think if you install the mpg123 package that will happen for MP3 files
[01:44] <miceiken> okay guys thanks for your help
[01:44] <newmar> zykotick9, i tried but doesn t work
[01:45] <zykotick9> newmar, ? don't know then.  Good luck.
[01:45] <choco> help me....how to install lam/mpi,,,
[01:46] <Clerisy> zykotick9» do i append or create
[01:46] <meti_> hi
[01:46] <meti_> Need help about Audio Driver
[01:46] <zykotick9> Clerisy, sorry i don't know, i've used photorec from testdisk to recover files, but never used testdisk to recover partitions before.
[01:47] <choco> mpich2,,????
[01:47] <vvor> fugazi: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1414631532414244589
[01:48] <choco> gridmpi?????
[01:48] <WanderingEnder> Is there a CLI command, like iftop, that shows aggregate transfer rates for an interface?
[01:48]  * zykotick9 was hoping vvor's link would be for "waiting room" by fugazi
[01:48] <WanderingEnder> I don't want to see each conversation, just eth1 is using 1.2Mb/s at this time.
[01:50] <gevenux> habla alguien español?
[01:50] <zykotick9> !es | gevenux
[01:50] <gevenux> gracias
[01:51] <pdtpatrick_> WanderingEnder:  .. iftop can be used from CLI .. i think if u run sudo iftop eth0 .. it should work
[01:51] <WanderingEnder> Yeah, pdtpatrick_, I just found out what button I needed to push in iftop to get aggregates. Thanks.
[01:51] <WanderingEnder> (s and d)
[01:52] <enzopreme> hey, im having a little trouble with something, anyone willing to help??
[01:52] <WanderingEnder> !ask | enzopreme
[01:54] <enzopreme> i have my laptop displayed on my tv through hdmi with windows, but when i try to have it displayed on my tv with ubuntu, it only flashed on the screen for a second, then goes back to the laptop, its really annoying as i like to use my tv as my default display
[01:55] <Miodrag> hello
[01:56] <Miodrag> i have been trying in last couple of hours to install an script on ubuntu 11.10 [which have worked well on 11.04]
[01:57] <Miodrag> it seems to be a problem with libncurses5-dev and make menuconfig
[01:57] <vvor> enzopreme: http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ubuntu+hdmi+defaul+desplay&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#hl=en&client=ubuntu&hs=Nz0&channel=fs&sa=X&ei=xK6sTpH6MISzhAfai8nwDw&ved=0CBoQvwUoAQ&q=ubuntu+hdmi+default+display&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=aed0f713efd5a7d2&biw=1598&bih=791
[01:57] <corsairtux> enzopreme, what's your card? p.s. are you italian?
[01:57] <Miodrag> does anyone have idea what can i do?
[01:58] <zykotick9> !google > vvor
[01:58] <enzopreme> lol, yeah im italian
[01:58] <enzopreme> and im not sure what card i have, its stock in a dell vostro 3555
[01:58] <zykotick9> enzopreme, in terminal "lspci | grep -i vga"
[01:58] <enzopreme> corsair, why u ask if im italian?
[01:58] <enzopreme> lol
[02:01] <enzopreme> lol, bellisimo
[02:01] <benct> !patience | echo benct
[02:01] <benct> just to know.
[02:01] <corsairtux> enzopreme, pm
[02:02] <sysdoc> If smbclient gives you the shares on a server then how would you find the shares directory from the cli?
[02:02] <Miodrag> here is the pastebin of what i get when i do make menuconfig http://pastebin.com/VXczrCXD
[02:04] <Miodrag> does anyone have idea how to fix this?
[02:05] <enzopreme> i think mines nvidia as well... i think maybe it was a bad d/l, im gonna try to reintall ubuntu... maybe that'll work?
[02:06]  * reisio headdesks
[02:06] <enzopreme> im not fluent... lmao
[02:07] <Miodrag> enzopreme, by qiock search on google i found that yours card is ati radeon
[02:07] <corsairtux> enzopreme, ti ho scritto in privato
[02:07] <Miodrag> but you ptovided here only basic model name " dell vostro 3555" - if you turn computer upside down - you could type here whats exact model
[02:09] <zykotick9> enzopreme, to find your graphcis card, in terminal type "lspci | grep -i vga"
[02:09] <chid_s> is it possible to set up a shortcut to the messaging menu?
[02:09] <enzopreme> ok, Miodrag, it says dell 3550, i also have double boot, would that make a difference?
[02:10] <Miodrag> it seems that yours chipset has dual graphics
[02:10] <Miodrag> so disableing inboard graphics in bios may solve issue
[02:10] <_deXter_> Hi, is anyone here familiar with customizing awn's themes?
[02:11] <enzopreme> how do i do that?
[02:11] <s0nee> hmm my script has a command that only runs as root. i chown to root:root, set permission 4755 but it still fails to run because it doesnt run as root ?
[02:11] <enzopreme> im just learning all of this
[02:12] <Miodrag> enzo, when you restart computer you press F2 or del button - it may be different from model to model to enter bios
[02:12] <enzopreme> ok
[02:12] <Miodrag> if you are chatting now from other computer we can do this together on private
[02:13] <enzopreme> no im not, but im gonna shut this one down, sign back in from my phone, then ill let you know im back
[02:13] <enzopreme> thanks so much
[02:13] <Ibyss> s0nee: Which user runs the script?
[02:14] <crooks> s0nee, try sudo ./nameofyourscript
[02:14] <Ibyss> WAIT STOP HOLD UP!!1     Why must it be runned as root anyway? Server script?
[02:14] <Ibyss> it run as root*
[02:15] <crooks> has a command that only runs as root
[02:15] <smellydog> hi, I am using Ubuntu 11.10 Desktop edition, is there a way to temporary disable GUI? tried GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text" in /etc/default/grub, not work...
[02:16] <zykotick9> smellydog, if you just want to stop X for a specific purpose i think "sudo service lightdm stop" should work (if the service is actually called lightdm, which i'm not sure)
[02:16] <Miodrag> smellydog, i belive that you can install gnome-clasic and than logout and chose whatever X or without X interface you like
[02:16] <Miodrag> for that logon session
[02:16] <s0nee> Ibyss: the script uses wpa_supplicant and dhcpcd. one guy tells me that suid does not work with script ?
[02:17] <vvor> smellydog: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:17] <zykotick9> vvor, i doubt that would work for 11.10
[02:17] <reisio> smellydog: what for
[02:17] <ldz420> I made an modification to xorg file and want it to pick up the changes without restarting the machine is this possible. and if so how can it be done?
[02:18] <reisio> ldz420: you can start another X server
[02:18] <ldz420> what do I type in the command line? start X?
[02:18] <smellydog> reisio: I have limited memory, and want build a openwrt environment
[02:18] <s0nee> vvor: zykotick9 i think its "service lightdm stop" ?
[02:18] <ResQue> how can i add/install a tun module so i can use openvpn
[02:18] <reisio> smellydog: ah
[02:19] <reisio> ldz420: startx -- :1 -br
[02:19] <ResQue> TUN/TAP driver maybe?
[02:19] <reisio> ldz420: typically would start it on TTY8, your current will remain on 7
[02:19] <g0rs> are you playing games on ubuntu?
[02:19] <s0nee> smellydog: try "service lightdm stop" ?
[02:20] <zykotick9> s0nee, that would require sudo
[02:20] <s0nee> smellydog: in 11.10 its lightdm, not gdm anymore
[02:20] <smellydog> seems "service lightdm stop" works, thanks zykotick9, thanks all!
[02:21] <zykotick9> smellydog, with or without sudo?
[02:21] <s0nee> zykotick9: with sudo
[02:21] <ldz420> reisio: how to I switch the terminal? Do I use an F key on the top row of my keypad?
[02:21] <smellydog> with sudo
[02:21] <zykotick9> smellydog, ok, just checkin'
[02:22] <vvor> smellydog: zykotick9 s0nee Sorry it's: sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm stop on 11.10
[02:22] <Miodrag> zykotick9, vvor; whats wrong with installing gnome-panel an changing login session to non X?
[02:22] <zykotick9> vvor, using init.d is outdated!
[02:22] <vvor> yep old habets
[02:23] <s0nee> vvor: ubuntu now uses upstart, so its "sudo service <name> stop|start"
[02:23] <zykotick9> Miodrag, what does gnome-panel have to do with non-Xorg?  is "non X" an actual option?
[02:23] <vvor> Miodrag: the install
[02:23] <reisio> ldz420: CTRL+ALT+F#
[02:24] <vvor> s0nee: yep for now the two work but we should be upstarting from now on :-)
[02:25] <Canton> Hello, using Xubuntu 11.10, having trouble mounting external NTFS Drive it gives me a message "Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21:"
[02:25] <ResQue> How can i installed a Tun/Tap driver so i can use openVPN
[02:25] <Miodrag> zykotick9, vvor; sry i missunderstod - i am linux newbie, i tought he need non gui enviropment
[02:26] <reisio> Canton: after doing what
[02:27] <Canton> well I've plugged it in and that error pops up
[02:27] <ircdearia> On one ubuntu system I see several jre apps installed: default-jre, gcj-4.4-jre, openjdk-6-jre, gcj-4.5-jre, openjdk-7-jre, sun-java6-jre.  How can I force firefox to use sun-java6-jre when loading java applets?
[02:27] <Canton> I've tried different ports
[02:27] <Canton> and I've tried other NTFS external drives same thing
[02:27] <Canton> it mounts Fat32 and Fat16 drives fine
[02:27] <mrdeb> what error
[02:27] <zykotick9> ResQue, you could try "sudo modprobe tun" - but i haven't used tun/tap since Virtualbox fixed their network setup (quite a while ago now)
[02:28] <Miodrag> can anyone help me how to resolve this: http://pastebin.com/VXczrCXD
[02:29] <s0nee> ircdearia: when firefox loads java applet, i think it actually invoke "java". so you may need to look at environment variables or java settings ?
[02:29] <ircdearia> ah, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[02:30] <SiegeLord> What's up with 11.10 and libGL? GCC can't seem to find it in the standard location (I installed libgl1-mesa-dev which usually provided it fine)
[02:31] <ResQue> n but i still dont see a tun module loaded with lsmod
[02:32] <Abumaceo> Hello... I'm new to IRC but  I'm coming here with questions about lost files now that I've upgraded to 11:10.
[02:32] <mikodo> I need to start over! I have a usb drive hard drive used for backups that I re-formatted and when I turn it on it is not mounted. I want to turn it on; run a backup program and then turn it off. I't's path is: /dev/sdf1 Label: New Volume I have message stating: Unable to find mount point. Should I turn it off, before following any commans?
[02:32] <Firefishe> I'm using 11.10 on an Asus G50V laptop.  I want to know if there is a way to manually control fan speed on this, or any, laptop using this release.
[02:34] <zykotick9> ResQue, perhaps this will help http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man8/tunctl.8.html
[02:34] <s0nee> !ask | Abumaceo
[02:34] <Abumaceo> Thanks
[02:35] <ldz420> reisio: I tried to go into a different terminal and use startx but will not let me because socketCreatelistening funtion fails because server is still running any more ideas?
[02:35] <samsul> !patience
[02:35] <s0nee> mikodo: if it cant find the mount point, why dont you try to create it and run again ?
[02:36] <mikodo> s0nee, because I don't know what I am doing
[02:36] <s0nee> mikodo: "sudo mkdir /media/usb && sudo mount /dev/sdf1 /media/usb"      now the usb should be mounted in /media/usb
[02:37] <jadon> i need help setting up ssh so i can connect to a computer from anywhere
[02:37] <joemofkndot> hi i used computer janitor and i think is has broken my ability to go to ubuntu software center and synaptic
[02:37] <vvor> jadon: what's the Q.?
[02:37] <reisio> ldz420: sorry not familiar with that voodoo
[02:37] <qin> jadon: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[02:37] <s0nee> Abumaceo jadon whats your question ?
[02:37] <mrdeb> does ubuntu 1110 support usb #3
[02:38] <mrdeb> ?
[02:38] <jadon> done that
[02:38] <mikodo> s0nee, well I ran your command and it didn't throw any commands....
[02:38] <jadon> but the ssh login times out
[02:38] <zykotick9> jadon, from the local machine try "ssh localhost"
[02:38] <mikodo> errors I mean
[02:38] <jadon> that works
[02:38] <ldz420> reisio: that for the attempt.. i guess it is time to restart
[02:38] <zykotick9> jadon, firewall?
[02:38] <qin> jadon: In config it is grace time, or it is firewall
[02:38] <jadon> wait no
[02:39] <mikodo> s0nee, errors I meant
[02:39] <vvor> jadon: open FW router port
[02:39] <jadon> odd ssh localhost does not work
[02:39] <s0nee> mikodo: that means it works. now the usb is mounted at /media/usb
[02:39] <ResQue> i am haveing some issues with TUN devices, could someone please help point me in the right direction to install/manage tun devices
[02:39] <zykotick9> jadon, "sudo service ssh start"
[02:39] <samsul> jadon, what did you install?
[02:40] <mikodo> s0nee, so, do I just shut off the hard drive and turn it back on and all should be good?
[02:40] <jadon> let me rephase my info
[02:40] <samsul> i usually install this sudo apt-get install ssh << it will install both, openssh-server and openssh-client
[02:40] <jadon> ssh localhost works
[02:41] <jadon> ssh  computer@subnetip works from a different computer
[02:41] <jadon> ssh computer@publicip does not work
[02:41] <samsul> as a client you need openssh-client, and as a server you need openssh-server
[02:41] <zykotick9> jadon, on your router forward port 22 to your server ip
[02:41] <mikodo> s0nee, I will shut it off and turn it  back on to see where we are :)
[02:41] <jadon> already portforwarded
[02:41] <Canton> Need help with mounting an external NTFS hard drives, Im running Xubuntu 11.10, I try mounting any NTFS external but I get an error message each time
[02:42] <Clerisy> I just accidently deleted the wrong partition via gparted is there a way to restore it? please help
[02:42] <s0nee> mikodo: no its mounted and you can access it at /media/usb
[02:42] <reisio> Clerisy: zykotick9 gave you something like an hour ago
[02:42] <s0nee> mikodo: configure your backup program to copy files to /media/usb
[02:42] <samsul> Canton, what kind of error message did you get?
[02:42] <Clerisy> reisio» didn't work as expected
[02:43] <Canton> Mount Failed Error Mounting: mount exited with exit code 21:"
[02:43] <ultrixx> jadon: did i understand you correctly, that you tried to access your ssh server from inside your network with the public ip address?
[02:43] <jadon> i belive so
[02:43] <mikodo> s0nee, well i had shut it off, before you responsed, I have now turned it back on...
[02:43] <chris_> \q
[02:44] <samsul> Canton, did you mount it manually?
[02:44] <ultrixx> jadon: ok. not every router is smart enough to do NAT translation for requests from inside the network
[02:44] <ultrixx> jadon: at least not every router is configured for that
[02:44] <jadon> can u try and connect for me to see if it works?
[02:44] <ultrixx> jadon: ok
[02:44] <jadon> how do you wisper
[02:44] <Canton> Samsul: I right clicked and told it to mount
[02:45] <mikodo> s0nee, Well that messed it up, as you can suspect, /media/usb is now empty
[02:45] <ultrixx> jadon: that depends on the irc client you are using
[02:45] <ultrixx> jadon: on irc you don't whisper you open a dialog
[02:45] <samsul> Canton, did you try mount it manually?
[02:45] <bennis> hey, anybody know how to trick windows 2k's bootloader into booting from usb?
[02:46] <zykotick9> bennis, try ##windows
[02:46] <bennis> zykotick9 good call
[02:46] <bennis> thanks
[02:47] <zykotick9> ultrixx, use "/msg NICKYOUWANT message here"
[02:47] <zykotick9> jadon, ^
[02:47] <mikodo> s0nee, is there a way to configure so that the drive when turned on will automount at /media/usb?
[02:47] <vvor> bennis: goto bios first: usb boot
[02:47] <bennis> vvor: it's not that simple, it's an old machine :P
[02:48] <s0nee> mikodo: run "nautilus"  to open the file manager. then on the left pane there should be your device. click on it
[02:48] <zykotick9> vvor, don't support windows issues here
[02:48] <vvor> #winOLD ;-)
[02:49] <bennis> zykotick9: my issue is so that i can put ubuntu on it... i thought someone might know something about it :/
[02:49] <s0nee> zykotick9: vvor: the funny thing is theres actually #microsoft on this server and there are like 4 people there. lol
[02:49] <mikodo> s0nee, but will it be mounted when I do that?
[02:49] <zykotick9> s0nee, ##windows has 400+ people
[02:50] <s0nee> mikodo: it will automatically mounts your drive and open it
[02:51] <mikodo> s0nee,  you have been patient.  I will play with some more by myself Thanks
[02:51] <s0nee> mikodo: does it open the drive ?
[02:51] <newmar> anyhone knows some documents about librecad to learn it
[02:52] <mikodo> s0nee,  I am not sure what is there, maybe I need to mnt it each time I start it like you showed me before
[02:53] <mrdeb> how long is ubuntu 1004 supported
[02:53] <mrdeb> is it 13
[02:53] <zykotick9> !lucid | mrdeb
[02:54] <jadon> ultrixx you still on?
[02:54] <ultrixx> yes
[02:54] <ghostnik11> can anyone tell me what this means: "To use GNU make create a file called 'Gmake' in you search path
[02:54] <ghostnik11> that contains:
[02:54] <ghostnik11> #!/bin/sh
[02:54] <ghostnik11> MAKEPROG=gmake
[02:54] <ghostnik11> export MAKEPROG
[02:54] <FloodBot1> ghostnik11: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:54] <ghostnik11> exec gmake "$@"
[02:54] <talosT> Hey, guys there was a post a while back that changed the error message when you type in a wrong pass in terminal. Anyone have the link?
[02:54] <tlm> Weird can't get sound out of either the speakers or headphone jack on an Acer Travelmate 2413LCi, LSHW = http://pastebin.com/dT4aHNbk APLAY and LSPCI = http://pastebin.com/1TtPGvAA
[02:54] <share> ^
[02:56] <ghostnik11> can anyone tell me what this means: http://paste.ubuntu.com/722853/
[02:56] <Dougie187> Does anyone have any experience using a VPN from a chroot?
[02:56] <napalm54> Anyone know of where to get some great themes for Ubuntu 11.10?
[02:57] <jadon> does anyone here actually like "unity"
[02:57] <KyeRussell> Running Ubuntu 11.10 w/ encrypted home directories turned on;  got SSH keys working by putting the authorized_keys file somewhere outside of my home directory, but now my home directory isn't mounting upon connection.  I can mount if after, but that means my .bashrc.etc isn't read on logon.  Any ideas?
[02:57] <Dougie187> jadon: I do.
[02:57] <share> jadon: I don't.
[02:58] <russet> Hi, I'm trying to solve a GRUB booting issue and I'm having trouble finding a place to start.
[02:58] <ghostnik11> napalm54: i think you should check omgubuntu.co.uk
[02:58] <share> !nounity
[02:58] <napalm54> ghostnik11: Thanks, sure will
[02:59] <russet> I'd like to dual-boot XP and Linux, but my grub partition references are incorrect. I can boot Ubuntu, but not XP.
[03:00] <napalm54> So, I have a laptop with Nvidia Optimus.  Where there is both the intel gpu and nvidia gpu.  I don't think I am getting all of the great visual effects in Ubuntu 11.10 by default because it uses the Intel GPU, anyway to force the Nvidia GPU?
[03:00] <zykotick9> russet, have you tried running "sudo update-grub" yet?
[03:01] <Dougie187> russet: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[03:01] <Technicus> How can I enable hardware accelerated 3D graphics support on Ubuntu 11.04 for an Intel graphics processor?
[03:01] <russet> will that fix it automatically? zykotick9
[03:01] <zykotick9> russet, that's the hope
[03:02] <russet> It's rather convoluted, which is why I am skeptical.
[03:02] <Dougie187> Ok, so I have a vpn set up in a 32bit chroot, and I can connect and it works how I want. but I need to have access to the connection outside of the chroot. So does anyone have any idea how to do that?
[03:02] <zykotick9> Technicus, for intel, turn the computer on is all you should need.
[03:02] <russet> I'd like to find the path to Windows (for the boot) and mod grub to point to it
[03:03] <Technicus> zykotick9: That is not the case in this particular instance.  Do you have any troubleshooting suggestions?
[03:03] <zykotick9> Technicus, not really... what's happening?  what are you trying to run that's failing?
[03:04] <mrdeb> so 1110 is buggy
[03:04] <Technicus> zykotick9: Compiz will not start.
[03:04] <mrdeb> compared to 1004
[03:04] <Dougie187> mrdeb: mine's not.
[03:04] <mrdeb> like net manager
[03:04] <Dougie187> works fine for me.
[03:04] <urlin2u> russet, in ubuntu sudo update-grub should find it
[03:04] <mrdeb> no
[03:05] <zykotick9> Technicus, from terminal does "glxinfo | grep direct" report Yes?
[03:05] <Technicus> zykotick9: I believe there is a problem with some Nvidia driver moduel loading or something.
[03:05] <mikodo> s0nee,  if I turn on the usb drive and mount it the way you showed me it works! Would the umount command be: sudo umount /dev/sdf1
[03:05] <zykotick9> Technicus, do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf?  you shouldn't, rename it to xorg.conf.OLD if you do.
[03:05] <Technicus> zykotick9: It reports a semgentation fault.
[03:06] <s0nee> mikodo: its "sudo umount /media/usb"
[03:06] <Technicus> zykotick9: The file is there but it is empty.
[03:06] <mikodo> s0nee,  Thank you, I will record that! :)
[03:06] <s0nee> mikodo: no problem
[03:07] <zykotick9> Technicus, do you have nvidia packages installed?  "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" for a list.
[03:07] <nac-godfather> Anybody here know how to have TeamViewer start on startup, as a service, not minimized?
[03:08] <Technicus> zykotick9: nvidia-current is installed.
[03:08] <reisio> nac-godfather: not sure teamviewer does as a service
[03:09] <nac-godfather> well what is the preferred way to start ssh as a startup daemon?
[03:09] <Technicus> zykotick9: Does that mean that it is installed?  If I look in synaptic package manager, it is not installed.
[03:09] <nac-godfather> I've added my own custom bash script for /etc/init.d/ssh start, but also /usr/bin/ssh
[03:10] <nac-godfather> not sure which is better, but I know the /etc/init.d/ssh start isn't working
[03:10] <zykotick9> Technicus, if dpkg says it's installed - it's installed.  you could use "sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current" to remove it (not sure that will help mind you)
[03:10] <Technicus> zykotick9: It will not uninstall!
[03:11] <russet> Technicus: sudo in
[03:11] <zykotick9> Technicus, just leave it then
[03:11] <zykotick9> Technicus, sorry i don't have any other suggestions, good luck.
[03:11] <Technicus> zykotick9: Ok . . . thanks.
[03:12] <Firefishe> Does anyone have a manner in which to control fan speed in a laptop?  I'm running ubuntu 11.10 on an asus g50v laptop.
[03:13] <reisio> g50v, interesting
[03:13] <reisio> you must be rich :p
[03:14] <reisio> Firefishe: http://www.linlap.com/wiki/asus+g50v http://monalisa.cern.ch/blog/2008/09/16/ubuntu-on-asus-g50v/
[03:14] <ResQue> how can i install the kernel module Tun.ko
[03:16] <Firefishe> reisio:  I got it at Best Buy in 2008, for 1299.00 plus tax.  It's not a custom job, although I would've liked that.  Those cost upwards of $3,000.00
[03:17] <reisio> Firefishe: does it have eSATA?
[03:18] <Firefishe> reisio: Yes, but with the advent of USB 3.0, it's kind of a moot point.
[03:18] <reisio> well if you could pop usb3 support into your laptop, it might be
[03:18] <linux> hi people
[03:18] <reisio> IIRC usb 3 isn't faster than all sata, anyways
[03:18] <linux> i need help
[03:18] <reisio> linux: whatup
[03:18] <linux> please
[03:18] <CaptWho> i'm installing 11.10 on a bare-bones netbook .  i've noticed that the filesystems /dev and /run/shm suck up a lot of disk space in the default installation.  i tried creating my / filesystem and then adding /dev and /run/shm, but i get the error saying that they must be in the root filesystem.   / won't let me install any filesystems inside it.  any idea where i go from here?
[03:18] <Firefishe> reisio:  let's go to ubuntu-offtopic if you want to chat
[03:18] <linux> reisio can you help me
[03:19] <reisio> I don't want to chat
[03:19] <linux> my wireless not connecting in ubuntu
[03:19] <reisio> I just respond
[03:19] <reisio> linux: did it work during install?
[03:19] <urlin2u> linux, the protocol is to state the problem for a best chance at help.
[03:19] <linux> before it was not detecting
[03:19] <briman0094> i need some grub help
[03:19] <linux> but now it solve
[03:19] <linux> it detecting now
[03:19] <linux> but not connecting
[03:19] <briman0094> i'm trying to install grub onto /dev/sda2
[03:19] <FloodBot1> linux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:20] <briman0094> so i booted into my ubuntu livecd
[03:20] <linux> hey guys any one can give my solution
[03:20] <briman0094> and when I run grub-install /dev/sda2, it says "cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)
[03:20] <urlin2u> briman0094, whay to a partition?
[03:20] <urlin2u> why*
[03:21] <robin0800> briman0094, are you sure it should be sda
[03:21] <zykotick9> CaptWho, /dev is a virtual file system, and takes up virtual NO space?
[03:21] <linux> any one can help me how to connect wireless
[03:21] <briman0094> i need a dual boot between MineOS and Windows 7
[03:21] <linux> my wireless not connecting
[03:21] <briman0094> i'll try sda
[03:21] <Polah> briman0094, GRUB has to go into the bootloader. /dev/sda. Specify --root-directory=/path/to/dir   for where configuration files and such go
[03:21] <briman0094> ok
[03:21] <briman0094> what would i put as --root-directory for real?
[03:22] <briman0094> it still give me that error
[03:22] <urlin2u> briman0094, follow this with a cd equal to the ubuntu install. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy_LiveCD_Files
[03:22] <Polah> briman0094, --root-directory=/ and you'll want to mount that partition at /boot
[03:22] <briman0094> ok
[03:22] <urlin2u> briman0094, no partitions mounted unmount all before running commands.
[03:22] <robin0800> briman0094, not sure you have to Iv'e never had to
[03:22] <Dougie187> Can someone help me make use of a dns from inside a chroot while I'm outside it on the host?
[03:23] <briman0094> it says /boot is already busy
[03:23] <briman0094> oh hold on
[03:23] <Dougie187> Or how to route traffic through a chroot?
[03:23] <zykotick9> Dougie187, it might not be possible... just sayin'
[03:23] <CaptWho> zykotick9, when i do a df, it says that it's occupying 200 megs and using 1%.  i'd like to  limit that to 50 megs
[03:23] <Dougie187> hmmm...
[03:24] <zykotick9> CaptWho, df reports my dev as using 2GB but "du -sh /dev" reports 292k
[03:25] <celltech> is Tar our version of 'Zip'?
[03:25] <CaptWho> is /run/shm the same?
[03:26] <zykotick9> CaptWho, i don't have /run (older system), my /dev/shm is the same though
[03:26] <zykotick9> celltech, tar and gz is similar to ZIP
[03:26] <CaptWho> okay...  i've never used the du command, so thanks for that
[03:26] <zykotick9> celltech, tar is uncompressed - just all files together
[03:27] <celltech> Good to know thank you.
[03:27] <briman0094> got grub installed
[03:27] <briman0094> but i forgot to update-grub
[03:28] <urlin2u> briman0094, you update it in the OS
[03:28] <briman0094> now i have to wait for the slow-as-heck ubuntu livecd to boot
[03:28] <briman0094> i know
[03:28] <briman0094> grub should be able to boot MineOS right?
[03:29] <briman0094> if it is installed on /dev/sda2 and windows is on /dev/sda4
[03:29] <CaptWho> does anyone know where i go to install a base system (no gnome)?
[03:30] <zykotick9> CaptWho, use the mini cd then (which is basically a debian netinstall)
[03:30] <reisio> zykotick9: alternate do that, too?
[03:30] <zykotick9> !mini | CaptWho
[03:30] <urlin2u> briman0094, what is the OS that is kinda hard to answer, most likely grub 2 booots most everything.
[03:30] <dano> CaptWho: have you considered the mini install?
[03:30] <briman0094> mineos is a Minecraft Server Operating System
[03:30] <zykotick9> reisio, alternate installs the regular packages, mini does not
[03:30] <briman0094> so the only thing it does is run a minecraft server
[03:30] <CaptWho> can i install gnome 2 on top of it?
[03:30] <zykotick9> CaptWho, no
[03:31] <zykotick9> CaptWho, if you want Gnome2 use Debian
[03:31] <RadioStar> anyone know of a good PHP/XML channel?
[03:31] <dano> Mini give you the option to customize your install at the end
[03:31] <dano> you can also leave it as a server without adding a desktop manager
[03:31] <urlin2u> briman0094, this is the ubuntu channel do you have a ubuntu imstall?
[03:32] <briman0094> i used to
[03:32] <CaptWho> is there a way to blow away gnome 3 on a standard install and reinstall gnome 2?
[03:32] <briman0094> im using an ubuntu cd to do my work tho
[03:32] <urlin2u> briman0094, good luck.
[03:32] <briman0094> thanks?
[03:32] <briman0094> any reason why "Try Ubuntu" just froze?
[03:32] <briman0094> its spinning the cursor
[03:32] <briman0094> and thats it
[03:32] <urlin2u> briman0094, I just have no idea there maybe others will.
[03:33] <dano> CaptWho, I'm guessing you can install without a desktop first then add Gnome 2 later
[03:33] <dano> haven't done it myself though
[03:33] <zykotick9> dano, gnome2 isn't in ubuntu repos - CaptWho forget gnome2 on ubuntu (or use 10.04LTS)
[03:33] <ghubish> oaa
[03:33] <CaptWho> dano, the standard install doesn't give me the option of installing without a desktop
[03:34] <dano> Right.  see earlier comment about mini
[03:34] <CaptWho> damn
[03:34] <CaptWho> okay
[03:35] <s0nee> CaptWho: or use arch instead ?
[03:35] <dano> Capt: zykotick9 makes a good point. Why are you trying to install Gnome2?
[03:36] <CaptWho> s0nee, what's arch?
[03:36] <briman0094> i'm getting "segmentation fault (core dumped)" when i do grub-setup
[03:36] <briman0094> and update-grub says something about the probe stuff
[03:36] <zykotick9> CaptWho, arch is another distro
[03:36] <Ivoz> how can I add eclipse as an application?
[03:37] <CaptWho> zykotick9, like debian and ubuntu?
[03:37] <briman0094> install it from ubuntu software center
[03:37] <Ivoz> its downloaded eclipse, not installed one
[03:37] <s0nee> CaptWho: google arch linux. it does not come with GUI default
[03:37] <Ivoz> installed one refused to update anything
[03:37] <zykotick9> CaptWho, NO!!! arch is terrible IMHO
[03:37] <Ivoz> which defeats half the purpose of eclipse
[03:37] <bazhang> s0nee, thats not ubuntu support. please stay on topic
[03:38] <Ivoz> yeah, well, that just like, your opinion, zykotick9.
[03:38] <s0nee> bazhang: sorry
[03:38] <urlin2u> briman0094, so what is the minecraft based on?
[03:38] <Ivoz> how can you add a custom executable file as a app in unity/gnome shell?
[03:38] <ultrixx> CaptWho: the ubuntu server edition comes without gui afaik
[03:39] <briman0094> java
[03:39] <zykotick9> ultrixx, that doesn't change anything regarding installing gnome2
[03:39] <CaptWho> ultrixx, can i add gnome 2 to that?
[03:39] <briman0094> ivoz: i recommend not using unity
[03:39] <zykotick9> CaptWho, no!
[03:39] <briman0094> your choise, but i recommend not using it
[03:39] <CaptWho> lol
[03:39] <Technicus|2> I figured it out . . . it was not the Nvidia driver conflicting, it was the Ati driver.  Thanks for the help.
[03:39] <CaptWho> i'm going for debian
[03:39] <Ivoz> briman0094: im actually not, using gnome hsell atm
[03:39] <zykotick9> CaptWho, Ubuntu 10.04LTS uses Gnome2 and is a supported version
[03:39] <briman0094> oh
[03:41] <ultrixx> CaptWho: sorry i misunderstood you. "does anyone know where i go to install a base system (no gnome)?" was what i read
[03:41] <TASK> Incredible power consumption with Ubuntu 11.10 here. Win7 = 9h, in contrast 11.10 = 1.5h :(
[03:41] <ultrixx> CaptWho: so i thought you just wanted a text based install
[03:41] <Ivoz> CaptWho: use gnome 3, it is the way of the futurez
[03:42] <CaptWho> that was the original question, but i just wanted to install gnome2 on top of it
[03:42] <CaptWho> and gnome3 reeks
[03:42] <newhoa> Hey everyone... I'm having a problem converting an SVG to PDF with inkscape. I think I'm hitting a RAM limit. Is there a way to force terminal commands to use swap instead?
[03:42] <s0nee> TASK: your laptop has a discrete graphic card ?
[03:42] <dano> CaptWho, the 10.04 LTS suggestion is a good one.
[03:42] <ultrixx> CaptWho: linux mint is based on ubuntu and comes with gnome 2. you can also install 10.04 or 10.10, which also come with gnome 2
[03:42] <TASK> s0nee: Asus Aspire 4830TG, yes
[03:42] <dano> Gnome 2 by defautl
[03:43] <mrmcgibby2> how do I change the window decoration style in 11.10?
[03:43] <ultrixx> CaptWho: and i read about some people who offer a ppa with gnome 2 for 11.10
[03:43] <Ivoz> gnome tweak tool can change that
[03:43] <s0nee> TASK: try the acpi_call method from http://linux-hybrid-graphics.blogspot.com/ it works for me
[03:43] <Ivoz> gnome 2 will stop getting updates
[03:43] <mrmcgibby2> where do I get that?
[03:43] <CaptWho> i had 10.10 installed and it kept breaking.  i lost my user interface devices and couldn't get them back.  i really don't want to run into that again
[03:44] <briman0094> somehow i need to chroot into my partition
[03:44] <briman0094> how?
[03:45] <ultrixx> CaptWho: how did you do that?
[03:45] <CaptWho> ultrixx, what's a ppa?
[03:45] <zykotick9> !ppa | CaptWho
[03:45] <CaptWho> and how did i do what?
[03:46] <ultrixx> CaptWho: break 10.10 ui
[03:46] <CaptWho> evil spirits?
[03:46] <Ivoz> mrmcgibby2: sudo apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool
[03:46] <mrmcgibby2> thanks
[03:46] <newhoa> Or... does anyone know how to convert an SVG to PDF without inkscape?
[03:46] <CaptWho> actually the user interface devices
[03:46] <urlin2u> CaptWho, sounds like your problems were user error it wont matter what OS you run, if you're not careful
[03:47] <mrmcgibby2> newhoa: You could open it in a browser, then print to PDF
[03:47] <newhoa> I tried that... it turned out very distorted.
[03:47] <TASK> s0nee: so I have to switch off the NV card? Ok, I try it thanks
[03:47] <mrmcgibby2> why don't you want to use inkscape?
[03:48] <s0nee> TASK: np.
[03:48] <CaptWho> i couldn't get the netbook keyboard and the touchpad to respond...  i tried some fixes off the net and borked the system
[03:49] <newhoa> mrmcgibby2: Inkscape keeps aborting on me. I think it's a RAM limit issue. I don't know how to force using swap, though.
[03:50] <zykotick9> newhoa, you can't (wouldn't want) to force swap to be used - it will be used when the kernel needs it.  Have you checked in "top" of "free -m" while running the program to even see if it uses much memory?
[03:51] <Aleo> hello all
[03:51] <Aleo> please help me
[03:51] <Aleo> :)
[03:51] <s0nee> !ask | Aleo
[03:51] <mrmcgibby2> newhoa: you could try doing it from the command line inkscapec -P out.pdf in.svg
[03:51] <Aleo> How I revert to Ubuntu original boot screen
[03:52]  * CaptWho passes Aleo a dime
[03:52] <KyeRussell> Running Ubuntu 11.10 w/ encrypted home directories turned on;  got SSH keys working by putting the authorized_keys file somewhere outside of my home directory, but now my home directory isn't mounting upon connection.  I can mount if after, but that means my .bashrc.etc isn't read on logon.  Any ideas?
[03:52] <jadon> im wanting to setup a ram disk for a minecraft server to hold the world any links to helpfull documentations?
[03:52] <Aleo> I have made a new install, then done some things on the site Things to tweak after install and don't know why I get a blue boot screen instead of the Ubuntu one
[03:53] <Iceicebaby> Is there a good alternative to "kontact"? It uses to much ressources for my computer.
[03:53] <s0nee> Aleo: you mean GRUB (where you choose OS) or the ubuntu screen with 4 dots ?
[03:53] <bazhang> Aleo, on what site
[03:53] <urlin2u> Aleo, you have a standard partitioned install or a wubi?
[03:53] <Aleo> I mean the Ubuntu login screen
[03:54] <Aleo> urlin2u, no I installed on a virtual box
[03:54] <bazhang> Aleo, some 3rd party website?
[03:54] <ultrixx> Iceicebaby: have you tried evolution or thunderbird with calendar extension?
[03:54] <Aleo> bazhang, yes, I will show you the site
[03:54] <bazhang> Aleo, no need
[03:54] <Iceicebaby> Aleo, go to the sessionmanager there you have to disable autologin.
[03:54] <newhoa> zykotick9, I watched in gnome-system-monitor... it uses up all the ram, and then the terminal outputs: GLib-ERROR **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.28.8/./glib/gmem.c:170: failed to allocate 2091325920 bytes
[03:54] <newhoa> aborting...
[03:54] <Aleo> but this is strange I have done the same things like install the gnome shell
[03:55] <s0nee> KyeRussell: if .bashrc isnt read, then check .bash_profile in your home folder ?
[03:55] <Iceicebaby> ultrixx: Does Evolution work on lxde?
[03:55] <zykotick9> newhoa, wow - good luck with that.
[03:55] <ultrixx> Iceicebaby: why not?
[03:55] <Aleo> Iceicebaby, where ? I have to put the pass and it like I want
[03:56] <ultrixx> Iceicebaby: i havent't tried it on lxde yet
[03:56] <newhoa> zykotick9, so it's not gonna happen without more ram?
[03:56] <Iceicebaby> ultrixx: Well, I will try it out now. Thank you :-)
[03:56] <ultrixx> Iceicebaby: you are welcome
[03:57] <zykotick9> newhoa, not sure - but that's isn't a friendly error message :(
[03:57] <TASK> If I switch from Unity to Gnome 3 shell, how much bandwidth do I really need... Softwarecenter shows me only a few MB..
[03:57] <Aleo> guess I have not explained well, sorry, the problem is that the login screen is not the Ubuntu original with the login on the left and the Ubuntu colors, it is a blue one with a background image, but I can log in as Gnome or Ubuntu or even KDE, and I have not installed KDE
[03:57] <Aleo> strange this
[03:58] <bazhang> Aleo, thats why following 3rd party websites is not a good idea
[03:58] <newhoa> zykotick9, I'm not sure what it means. I just assume it's ram because I can get up to 60dpi, then from there it just decides it doesn't want to do any more.
[03:58] <sandra_> Hello my fellow Ubuntu inmates :-)
[03:58] <sandra_> I trust you all are doing well.
[03:58] <urlin2u> sandra_, inmates lol
[03:59] <Aleo> bazhang, it is this one http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[03:59] <sandra_> I have what may seem like a large spectrum question.
[03:59] <trb> how do I know wif I have 32 or 64 bit version?
[03:59] <zykotick9> trb, in terminal "uname -m"
[03:59] <Aleo> but I have not done nothing different than I have done the other time I installed
[03:59] <bazhang> Aleo, and that is not supported here
[03:59] <Aleo> hmmm
[04:00] <briman0094> i still can't get this to work
[04:00] <Aleo> so where I choose the login screen to have again the Ubuntu default ?
[04:00] <sandra_> I have reloaded Ubuntu 11.04 on my HP-HDX-18-Notebook
[04:00] <trb> it returns i686
[04:00] <trb> what that mean?
[04:00] <ultrixx> trb: 32
[04:00] <KyeRussell> s0nee: it isn't read because it can't be accessed when I first SSH in, I have to mount my home directory each time I log in
[04:00] <ultrixx> trb: 32 bit
[04:01] <trb> ok thanks
[04:01] <sandra_> why is it 11.04 boots up faster and shuts down faster then 11.10 and I can see visible difference in speed as far as desktop performance goes.
[04:01] <trb> I am having trouble with a program MPLABX that runs in java netbeans
[04:01] <pipalo> How can I change how can I change the defualt player ?
[04:02] <trb> I am not getting the permissions to write all the files duriing a build
[04:02] <s0nee> KyeRussell: hmmm then you should check the ssh configuration files in /etc
[04:02] <trb> any ideas?
[04:02] <sandra_> I'm fairly new to Linux can someone please tell how long does it take for a new release to iron out it's bugs?
[04:02] <nac-godfather> hate the usb wireless support
[04:02] <sandra_> in this case 11.10 which seems slower then 11.04
[04:02] <nac-godfather> come on people, let's build some injection supported drivers for these puppies
[04:02] <urlin2u> sandra_, hard to say really, did you turn off some startup apps in Natty?
[04:03] <sandra_> Has anyone else found this to be the case for them ?
[04:03] <Aleo> where is session manager ?
[04:03] <sandra_> urlin2u, that's just it natty is much faster then Oneiric.
[04:04] <urlin2u> sandra_, it seemed a bit clunky to me as well so I went to precise
[04:05] <sandra_> urlin2u, what is precise ?
[04:05] <zykotick9> sander_, due to the cutting edge of ubuntu packages, you should always expect some bugs
[04:05] <s0nee> KyeRussell: check this http://superuser.com/questions/204787/how-can-i-mount-an-encrypted-home-directory-upon-ssh-login-using-private-public
[04:06] <urlin2u> sandra_, It is the next release, not really available yet.
[04:06] <ultrixx> sandra_: what hardware do you use? a netbook?
[04:07] <urlin2u> sandra_, I'm using Natty most of the time.
[04:07] <sandra_> urlin2u, Sadly I would have to say that Oneiric 11.10 is not ready for prime time or day to day use.
[04:07] <KyeRussell> Sweet s0nee, thanks.
[04:07] <sandra_> ultrixx, I have a fairly high end Laptop
[04:08] <julian_c> I'd say that lightdm needs a decent amount of work.
[04:08] <Aleo> guess nobody can help me on getting back the ubuntu original login screen
[04:08] <Aleo> ....
[04:08] <Aleo> did not want to install all again
[04:08] <ultrixx> sandra_: it should run 11.10 more than good enough if it is high end. i have 11.10 on my atom netbook and it works
[04:08] <s0nee> Aleo: try the forums ?
[04:08] <bazhang> Aleo, undo the changes from that 3rd party website
[04:08] <ultrixx> sandra_: have you installed the additional drivers?
[04:08] <pipalo> How can I integrate VLC or anyother player in 11.10 instead of banshee ?
[04:09] <sandra_> ultrixx, Oh I don't doubt it runs it on a netbook. But Oneiric is not faster then Natty as far start up and shut down and desktop speed.
[04:10] <ultrixx> sandra_: have you installed the graphics drivers?
[04:10] <sandra_> sadly even my image rendering is faster on natty then on oneiric
[04:10] <urlin2u> pipalo, vlc is in the repos
[04:11] <newhoa> Well... don't think this thing is going to happen on my PC. Thanks anyway everyone.
[04:11] <Aleo> s0nee, and bazhang I am trying to search for a solution
[04:12] <sandra_> ultrixx, I'm running nvidia's 290.03 video driver which runs extremly fast and well on natty but sadly Oneiric didn't handle my video drivers well.
[04:12] <ultrixx> sandra_: so they are not installed?
[04:12] <jam2011> how can I manually install a bootloader on my machine
[04:12] <Firefishe> I'm trying something unusual:  I have an asus g50v laptop.  I want to try my luck using the thinkpad_apci module and a small gtk-based fan-control program.  Here is the output of my modprobe commands: http://paste.ubuntu.com/722890/ -- My question is, is this because I'm not x86 based, but x86_64, or will this just not work on anything but a thinkpad?
[04:12] <zykotick9> !grub2 | jam2011
[04:13] <sandra_> ultrixx, I am running nvidia 290.3 as we speak on natty.
[04:13] <enzopreme> anyone know where i can find the drivers for intel hd graphics? i cant get the display to show on my tv via hdmi
[04:13] <newhoa> Before I go though... Would anyone here with 4GB+ of RAM be willing to help me with a file conversion?! I would appreciate it so much! But I know it's kind of going out of ones way, so if not it's understandable.
[04:14] <jam2011> ubottu: I got the message that there was an error in my bootloader and that I will have to manually install it, as I was completing my installation of ubuntu 11.10 after completing wiping out and partitioning my previous version
[04:15] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 jam2011 this link please
[04:15] <linus> since upgrading to 11.10 when I try and start pulse audio I keep getting this error  "[pulseaudio] module-combine.c: We will now load module-combine-sink. Please make sure to remove module-combine from your configuration." but I cant find module-combine in any configuration file. any tips on where to look?
[04:17] <sandra_> linus, what version of Ubuntu are you currently running?
[04:17] <Starminn> Why can't CTRL be used in a keyboard shortcut combination in Ubuntu 11.10?
[04:17] <linus> @sandra 11.10
[04:18] <sandra_> linus, pains me to say this but I don't think 11.10 is ready for prime time use.
[04:18] <sandra_> linus, I tried and struggled with 11.10 but wound up going back to 11.04 which is running faster and far more smoothly then 11.10 did.
[04:19] <haylo-bot_> 11.04 was ugly as sin i almost through my laptop out the window
[04:19] <linus> going back isnt really an option, too many packages to manually revert
[04:20] <haylo-bot_> pnobuntu but needs a supercomputer to run properly
[04:20] <haylo-bot_> phonebuntu
[04:20] <ultrixx> sandra_: ever thought about trying kubuntu 11.10? it is awesome
[04:20] <jam2011> i am in pretty bad shape... I am not able to boot at all into my desktop pc
[04:20] <s0nee> Starminn: you cant use combination or you cant create custom combination ?
[04:20] <linus> I find it is always a challenge to get thing reconfigured with a new release. but it is fun
[04:21] <sandra_> linus, how about a fresh install of 11.04 ? I use the Super OS which is Ubuntu with multimedia extensions  etc. etc. etc.
[04:21] <haylo-bot_> sry i like 11.04 not 11.10
[04:21] <linus> @jam2011 do you see the grub boot loader?
[04:21] <haylo-bot_> yeah 11.04 is working better tahn ever it is pretty awesome
[04:21] <jam2011> @linus: no
[04:21] <Starminn> s0nee, I wish to make gedit launch on CTRL+ALT+G; however when I press the combination for "Keyboard Shortcuts" to grab it, CTRL is never picked up on.
[04:21] <urlin2u> jam2011, did you look at the link bazhang gave you.
[04:21] <linus> Im not going to format my hard drive just to fix one error witj pulse audio
[04:21] <Starminn> s0nee, So, custom
[04:22] <jam2011> urlin2u: I already formatted the comp and am freshly installing the new version... I am parallely chatting from my laptop comp
[04:22] <s0nee> Starminn: hmm it works for me
[04:23] <urlin2u> jam2011, good then use the channel for help you aqctually need not a bait to chat, this is not a chat channel but ubuntu-offtopic is.
[04:23] <urlin2u> actually*
[04:23] <sandra_> ultrixx, I did try   Kubuntu. Also tried Xubuntu which I thought was very goo
[04:24] <jam2011> urlin2u: Does that mean that I cannot seek help in this channel
[04:24] <linus> i think lubuntu does a much better job of doing what xubuntu claims to do
[04:24] <urlin2u> jam2011, no it is just a that you just admitted that you aree reinstalling after clain=ming to still have a problem, or am I wrong here.
[04:24] <urlin2u> claiming*
[04:25] <reisio> linus: not sure Xubuntu claims to do that
[04:25] <Starminn> s0nee, Any suggestions?
[04:25] <s0nee> Starminn: edit config files or use tools
[04:26] <linus> google xubuntu "An official version of Ubuntu Linux that uses the XFCE desktop environment. Designed for low-specification computers."
[04:26] <jam2011> urlin2u: I had the problem after formatting and installing ubuntu... now I am stuck not able to startup or use my comp at all
[04:26] <s0nee> Starminn: you can use gconf-editor here. but it looks outdated http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-create-keyboard-shortcuts-in-gnome/
[04:27] <urlin2u> jam2011, then read this this as suggested, look in section 12 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Upgrading
[04:27] <sandra_> linus, Xubuntu does very well on a old pentium 4 I have.
[04:28] <reisio> GNOME can work on a pentium 4, too, though
[04:28] <Iceicebaby> xubuntu pretends to be less ressource hungry.
[04:29] <Iceicebaby> Back in the days it was, but nowadays not.
[04:29] <linus> @sandra if you think xubuntu does well try lubuntu and youll be blown away. "sudo apt-get install lxde" then select the appropriate session from litedm or gdm
[04:29] <MikeChelen> Iceicebaby: look at memory usage after boot compared with default ubuntu
[04:29] <Iceicebaby> You should use lxde instead.
[04:29] <MikeChelen> it depends what the system specs are
[04:30] <sandra_> reisio, I don't think it's a question of gnome or Xfce works they both do but Xfce and Xubuntu does run faster on my old pentium 4 then Ubuntu 11.10 does.
[04:30] <Iceicebaby> xubuntu still need about 300mb RAM its not much less than Ubuntu Unity (450mb RAM)
[04:30] <Iceicebaby> lxde needs about 80-110mb RAM
[04:31] <jam2011> urlin2u thanks
[04:31] <linus> yes xfce will run faster then gnome or unity or gnome3 but lxde is the fastest unless you only use a window manager like jwm or fluxbox
[04:31] <urlin2u> jam2011, no problem hope that is the answer.
[04:31] <ruybraga> lubuntu is good for old computers. I use it in virtual machines too.
[04:32] <Iceicebaby> I was using fluxbox too. It needs about 50-60mb RAM. But well, its difficult to get a good running menu (for a more or less newbie like me)
[04:33] <vladimir_> If I have my friend ssh'd into my box on pts/1, how can I get onto pts1 so we can goof off?
[04:34] <Starminn> sandra_, On my Pentium 4, Unity, GNOME Shell, and Xfce run all the same unless I've got more than 6 apps open at once. *shrug* Of course it's 3Ghz too, but still.
[04:34] <Starminn> sandra_, This is on Ubuntu 11.10 though not Xubuntu itself.
[04:35] <bazhang> sandra_, since you are not using ubuntu, it's not the issue
[04:35] <bazhang> sandra_, SUPER OS is not ubuntu, and thus not supported here
[04:35] <Iceicebaby> I have an 1GHz Pentium 3 and lxde is running well here.
[04:36] <Iceicebaby> Super OS? never hear about that. Is it a debian derivate too?
[04:36] <sandra_> bazhang, Excuse me your wrong I'm running Ubuntu 11.04 which is natty
[04:36] <goodnerd> hello
[04:36] <linus> ubuntu/xubuntu/lubuntu the difference is symantic. if you are claiming this is the wrong room for disscusion
[04:36] <goodnerd> hey what does this command do: which 5sh
[04:37] <MeganLWoulffe> Ubuntu 11.10 is not saving my brightness setting between sessions
[04:37] <share> goodnerd: that doesn't exist for me
[04:37] <sandra_> Iceicebaby, you can find it on Linuxfreedom.com
[04:37] <goodnerd> hmmm
[04:37] <Starminn> linus, There are dedicated channels of reach of those.
[04:38] <Starminn> for each*
[04:38] <zykotick9> goodnerd, "which foo" will show the path for a particular command, so 5sh would have to be an installed command
[04:38] <linus> if you can install the packages for lxde or xfce from ubuntu. then why arent you still using ubuntu?
[04:38] <Cheap_Scotsman> So I clean installed Win7 on my new HDD last night (fingers crossed) and am now hoping to set up a partition for Ubuntu and am hoping to have it hold half the drive. I have been reading that upwards of 4 partitions are wise for Ubuntu, does anyone have any advice on the best steps to complete this starting with Win7?
[04:39] <Aleo> is there any command to revert to the original ubuntu login screen ?
[04:39] <urlin2u> Cheap_Scotsman, upwards of 4 partitions?
[04:39] <Aleo> already searched and nothing
[04:39] <linus> are you going to limit the discusion in here to only unity windows manager? because I still like using gnome3 more because it is faster then unity2d
[04:39] <Aleo> don't know why mine have changed
[04:39] <xangua> linus: nonsense, unity uses gnome
[04:39] <Cheap_Scotsman> urlin2u: For swap, boot, etc. I have never done a partition before though so I could be quite off.
[04:40] <Starminn> linus, Because Xub* and Lb* come with different packages and slight variations. The channels for the derivatives are so that people especially knowledgable in that field may provide support.
[04:40] <Firefishe> Is there a way to control laptop fan speed when your laptop main board does not have pwm circuitry?
[04:40] <linus> @aleo you could try apt-get remove litedm and apt-get install gdm
[04:40] <Starminn> linus, If you are using "Ubuntu" with no prefix nor suffix, this is the place. Else, ask us to lead you where to go.
[04:40] <Aleo> linus, going to try thks
[04:40] <urlin2u> Cheap_Scotsman, no boot partition, just choose the install in the free space option.
[04:41] <Aleo> linus, don't know why this blue login screen with a background appeared
[04:41] <Aleo> :)
[04:41] <zykotick9> Cheap_Scotsman, i'd recommend you start with only 2 partitions, a root partition "/" and a swap partition -- easier to manage
[04:41] <MeganLWoulffe> Ubuntu 11.10 is not saving my brightness setting between sessions
[04:41] <Cheap_Scotsman> urlin2u, So all these tech blogs calling for manual partitions are full of crap?
[04:42] <Cheap_Scotsman> zykotick9, And should I set this up in the Win7 hard disc format tool or in the Ubuntu install cd after booting Win7?
[04:42] <Cheap_Scotsman> sykotick9 CD = process
[04:42] <linus> litedm has replace the gnome display manager as the default in 11.10 but you should still be able to switch back
[04:42] <zykotick9> Cheap_Scotsman, no, use the livecd installer
[04:42] <Aleo> linus, the commands did not worked
[04:42] <urlin2u> Cheap_Scotsman, not sure what you have been reading or when they were published, follow zykotick9 advice.
[04:43] <Cheap_Scotsman> urlin2u, appreciate yours as well thanks.
[04:43] <zykotick9> Cheap_Scotsman, are you planning to run the installer inside windows?  (called Wubi) if so, it doesn't use real partitions anyways [BTW i wouldn't recommend using Wubi]
[04:45] <Cheap_Scotsman> zykotick9: I was initially just going to partition everything through ubuntu on a clean install, but people here told me to do Win7 first then Ubuntu for the dual boot. I just intend on doing whatever proves easiest and most reliable
[04:46] <MeganLWoulffe> Ubuntu 11.10 is not saving my brightness setting between sessions
[04:46] <Cheap_Scotsman> zykotick9: The tech blogs are rather all over the map on this process in my reading thus far.
[04:46] <zykotick9> Cheap_Scotsman, is win7 installed now?
[04:47] <Cheap_Scotsman> zykotick9: Yes it is, and I have my 11.04 DVD
[04:47] <Firefishe> zykotick9: He may also want to read up on linux partitioning in general.  It's also wise to consider manual resizing and partitioning (in that order) if the Use Free Space option might do something weird.  If there's a ton of free space, it probably won't matter.
[04:47] <zykotick9> Cheap_Scotsman, good, then just boot the livecd and select the "install beside" (or similar worded) option.
[04:47] <Cheap_Scotsman> zykotick9: Okay, and this will give me an option for setting the amount of space to leave to ubuntu?
[04:47] <zykotick9> Cheap_Scotsman, yup
[04:48] <Cheap_Scotsman> zykotick9: Perfect. And do I set the two partitions for Ubuntu or does it do that itself?
[04:48] <MeganLWoulffe> Ubuntu 11.10 is not saving my brightness setting between sessions. any idea how to fix it?
[04:48] <zykotick9> Cheap_Scotsman, installer will do it for you
[04:48] <opticlove> i made an ubuntu live cd and its still booting up ubuntu even though the CD is out
[04:48] <opticlove> no, i didn't install ubuntu
[04:49] <xangua> !repeat | MeganLWoulffe
[04:49] <Cheap_Scotsman> zykotick9: Sounds deceptively simple. And after Ubuntu is installed how will I navigate between choosing which OS to boot? Or are there programs for that?
[04:49] <xangua> Cheap_Scotsman: yes, grub
[04:49] <zykotick9> Cheap_Scotsman, installer will look after that too.  Grub will allow you to choose windows or ubuntu
[04:49] <MeganLWoulffe> fair enough
[04:49] <Cheap_Scotsman> zykotick9, and grub launches in 7 or ubuntu?
[04:49] <Starminn> Cheap_Scotsman, You just restart your system and choose when you turn it on
[04:50] <zykotick9> Cheap_Scotsman, before either technically
[04:51] <zykotick9> Cheap_Scotsman, COMPUTER ON -> BIOS -> Grub -> Ubuntu or Windows
[04:51] <Cheap_Scotsman> zykotick9: Excellent. Thanks for the info I'm going to try it out shortly
[04:51] <Cheap_Scotsman> starminn: thanks
[04:51] <zykotick9> Cheap_Scotsman, good luck!
[04:52] <opticlove> oops, i forgot i had a usb drive attached...
[04:52] <opticlove> lol
[04:52] <opticlove> scared me for a second :{
[04:53] <Gskellig> where do icons go when i install something (like google chrome)
[04:53] <Gskellig> where can i find the icon for google chrome
[04:54] <ejv> what's the proper netstat option to list only active listening internet connections
[04:54] <rams_pandu> hi all, I have a usb pendrive. its not getting detected by ubuntu 10.04. I can see it got listed in "lsusb". but I cant use it. any help please?
[04:54] <_deXter_> rams_pandu, What brand is it?
[04:56] <rams_pandu> it is digimate pendrive, 1gb pendrive
[04:56] <zykotick9> Gskellig, try /usr/share/pixmaps/
[04:57] <rams_pandu> _deXter_, it is digimate pendrive, 1gb pendrive
[04:57] <s0nee> rams_pandu: try ls /dev to see if its in there ?
[04:58] <_deXter_> rams_pandu, insert the usb drive and then do a dmesg | tail
[04:58] <_deXter_> and see for any error messages
[04:59] <Gskellig> zykotick9, theres no google chrome in pixmaps
[04:59] <Gskellig> I can't even find the google chrome install directory
[04:59] <Gskellig> ANYWHERE
[04:59] <Gskellig> just cache and config
[04:59] <_deXter_> rams_pandu, But it sounds like it's a cheap chinese make drive; unfortunately some of them have issues in Linux .. and stability issues in general (I speak from experience)
[04:59] <rams_pandu> _deXter_, I donot find any error in the output
[04:59] <zykotick9> Gskellig, did you install with a DEB?  "dpkg -L NAME_OF_GOOGLE_CHROME" for a list of what it installed.
[04:59] <Gskellig> i used aptitude
[05:00] <zykotick9> Gskellig, it'll work then
[05:00] <_deXter_> rams_pandu, see if it's visible in GParted, and see if you can format it from there
[05:00] <rams_pandu> _deXter_, it is not visible in gparted
[05:02] <zykotick9> rams_pandu, what does dmesg say about the drive (if not an error)?
[05:03] <Gskellig> /opt/google/chrome
[05:03] <Gskellig> thats really weird
[05:03] <Gskellig> thanks zykotick9
[05:03] <Fudge> hi do english peole need language-pack-gnome-en-base
[05:03] <html> ?
[05:03] <zykotick9> Gskellig, actually /opt makes sense (i should have thought of that)
[05:04] <html> wow this is dead
[05:04] <html> in here
[05:04] <Gskellig> its the only thing installed in /opt
[05:04] <zykotick9> Gskellig, probably the only thing you've installed from outside of Ubuntu ;)
[05:04] <Gskellig> I did just reinstall ubuntu earlier today
[05:04] <Gskellig> i've installed quite a few things though...
[05:05] <BlackDalek> I just had to re-install everything (due to massive failure of oneiric).. anyway, I am back to the good old maverick 10.10 now.. howver, I was trying to configure an external display (tv) but I seem to have done something wrong, because now I can't get gdm to start. I am thrown into virtual terminal every login.  How do I reconfigure X again so that I can get out of terminal?
[05:05] <zykotick9> Gskellig, and why use chrome when there is chromium?  Like being tracked do you?
[05:05] <rams_pandu> zykotick9, here is the output of dmesg | tail...http://pastebin.com/9U0QgBhW
[05:05] <Gskellig> zykotick9, whats the difference?
[05:06] <zykotick9> Gskellig, google-chome is older version, and includes google tracking stuff.
[05:06] <Gskellig> ALL the same plugins work?
[05:06] <BlackDalek> I get "Ubuntu 10.10 dalek-laptop tty1" at startup now... how do I fix X so that gnome desktop will load again?
[05:07] <s0nee> BlackDalek: "sudo Xorg -configure"
[05:07] <zykotick9> rams_pandu, sorry - i don't see anything related to a HD there, did you plug a USB mouse in instead?  HID = Human Interface Device
[05:07] <zmbmartin> Is there any good reason to install the 3.1 kernel? Does it fix some of the power regressions that have happened?
[05:07] <s0nee> BlackDalek: then check for a file in the current dir "xorg.conf.new"
[05:07] <Starminn> Gskellig, Chromium is opensource (Chrome is not), and, as zykotick9 said, Chrome also contains a ton of things which Google can track you with, whereas the vast majority is disabled in Chromium. Chromium is always newer, and yes, all the same plugins work.
[05:08] <BlackDalek> ...and move it to replace old one.
[05:08] <s0nee> BlackDalek: yes
[05:08] <BlackDalek> I remember now
[05:10] <rams_pandu> zykotick9, when I insert this pendrive in a windows machine. it's getting detecting. but when I tried formatting it, windows says, windows cannot format the disk
[05:11] <haylo-bot_> youjust ned to get a pen drive that works and learn how to format it with winblowz
[05:11] <zykotick9> rams_pandu, sorry windows failures don't interest (or help) me at all.  try plugging it back into ubuntu and try the tail command again.
[05:13] <areichman> hello everybody. I just installed handbrake on ubuntu 11.04 and used the apple universal preset to try and rip some DVD's (in .iso format) to something itunes can understand. The process seemed to go find but quicktime won't play it and itunes silently fails when I try and add it to my library. Does anybody have any ideas
[05:13] <MikeChelen> fglrx is not working on my amd fusion chipset, even after trying fglrx, fglrx-updates, and direct download from amd
[05:13] <rams_pandu> zykotick9, does this helps???...http://pastebin.com/6THEagfw
[05:14] <zykotick9> rams_pandu, if this is a 1GB stick then that looks like it.
[05:15] <sudipta> ns2 does not work in 11.10?complains about a version conflict of tcl8.5...it needs exactly version 8.4.Any help?I have installed tcl8.4,but nothing
[05:15] <pumkinhed_> hi #ubuntu, love the new 11.10, i run it off a usb stick on my laptop with no internal HD (it died), but i have a minor problem on boot.  it complains that fd0 has io errors, but this machine has no floppy drive
[05:16] <dr_willis> pumkinhed_:  theres some options to not scan for floppy i recall in either the /etc/default/grub  or the /etc/grub.d/* files.
[05:16] <pumkinhed_> ah
[05:16] <dr_willis> pumkinhed_:  seen them mentioned ages ago. No floppies here either.
[05:17] <sudipta> ns2 does not work in 11.10?complains about a version conflict of tcl8.5...it needs exactly version 8.4.Any help?I have installed tcl8.4,but nothing
[05:17] <rams_pandu> zykotick9, I see the same output when I again try "dmseg|tail"
[05:17] <zykotick9> rams_pandu, so was that fdisk output from before then?  it wasn't current?
[05:18] <dr_willis> pumkinhed_:  i cant seem to find the option - i do recall there being some no-floppy options somewhere..
[05:19] <pumkinhed_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/568720 via google
[05:19] <pumkinhed_> ah it may be a bios tweak
[05:19] <pumkinhed_> i am going to try that brb
[05:19] <dr_willis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275  has some good grub docs.
[05:20] <MikeChelen> fglrx is still not working on amd fusion, even after trying fglrx package, fglrx-updates, and direct download from amd
[05:20] <zykotick9> dr_willis, "grub-install --no-floppy" ;)
[05:20] <sudipta> ns2 does not work in 11.10?complains about a version conflict of tcl8.5...it needs exactly version 8.4.Any help?I have installed tcl8.4,but nothing
[05:21]  * dr_willis wonders what 'ns2' is
[05:21] <urlin2u> dr_willis, a game
[05:21] <pompa> hi all. can you please teach me how can I clean my font cache?
[05:21] <dr_willis> sudipta:  perhaps you need to some how make  the tcl8.4 the default. or check/edit the game scripts and make it call tcl8.4 specifically
[05:21] <rams_pandu> zykotick9, here is the output of fsidk -l...http://pastebin.com/M2MzkksE
[05:22] <zykotick9> rams_pandu, looks like /dev/sdc: 1039 MB is empty?
what on earth is game script?
[05:23] <pompa> I have some hundred font in the download folder which I do not want to load. Unfortunately with fc-cache they have been cached and now I don't know how to remove them
[05:24] <rams_pandu> zykotick9, what shall I do now?
[05:24] <zykotick9> rams_pandu, does gparted see it now?
[05:24] <dr_willis> sudipta:  you said it was a game.. thats using/writtin in python.. so theres python scripts its using...
[05:24] <zykotick9> dr_willis, i'm not sure it's a game.  Network Simulator perhaps?
[05:25] <rams_pandu> zykotick9, it does not
[05:25] <zykotick9> rams_pandu, sorry i have no ideas.  hopefully someone else can lend you a hand.
it is not a game..network simulator
[05:25] <dr_willis> common issue is for programs to be calling for example /sbin/tcl8.6 then break with a newer version. where they should be calling  for example /sbin/tcl8.5
[05:26] <rams_pandu> zykotick9, ok. thank you for spending time with my problem:-)
[05:26] <zykotick9> rams_pandu, good luck
[05:26] <dr_willis> or they use the generic curent installed version like /sbin/tcl
[05:26] <dr_willis> !info ns
[05:26] <dr_willis> !info ns2
[05:27] <zaoul1> ubuntu
[05:27] <pumkinhed__> dr_willis, yes, bios tweak fixed the problem, which was painfully slow boot, ~5minutes.
[05:27] <dr_willis> ns2 here - is installing tk8.5 it seems
[05:28] <zaoul1> we are ON the Internet
yeah....but upon running it says it needs version 8.4
[05:29] <dr_willis> it did not say it here.. i just installed it.
[05:29] <zaoul1> what is the most Linux compatible cheese?
[05:29] <MikeChelen> fglrx is still not working on my amd fusion, even after trying fglrx package, fglrx-updates, and direct download from amd
[05:29] <dr_willis> did you install from a clean install or upgrade sudipta ?
[05:29] <dr_willis> !info cheese
clean install
[05:30] <dr_willis> sudipta:  no idea then.   ive never used the ns2 program. I just installed ns2, and ran it with 'ns' and got some Prompt. no error messages..
it needs a tcl script
[05:32] <jadon> how do i reconnect to a screen
[05:32] <dr_willis> a screen session ? theres the -r option i recall.
[05:32] <pumkinhed__> jadon screen -r
[05:32] <buff27> jadon, screen -r
[05:32] <dr_willis> screen --help
[05:33] <pumkinhed__> ouch, whats next, man screen?
[05:33] <pumkinhed__> lol
[05:33] <jadon> i already read the man page
[05:33] <dr_willis> pumkinhed__:  or reading the man pages to him...
[05:33] <jadon> There is no screen to be resumed.
[05:33] <dr_willis> screen --help -> -r            Reattach to a detached screen process.
[05:33] <dr_willis> -R            Reattach if possible, otherwise start a new session.
[05:34] <jadon> both sessions are attatched
[05:34] <pumkinhed__> jadon, perhaps you started screen as su, try w and seeing who is logged in
[05:34] <share> what is OTR for?
[05:34] <share> wrong channel.
[05:34] <jadon> There are screens on:
[05:34] <jadon>         1719.pts-0.owner-MCserver       (10/29/2011 10:22:18 PM)        (Attached)
[05:34] <jadon>         1540.pts-0.owner-MCserver       (10/29/2011 09:46:06 PM)        (Attached)
[05:34] <jadon> 2 Sockets in /var/run/screen/S-owner.
[05:34] <FloodBot1> jadon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:34] <jadon> sorry mr bot
[05:35] <dr_willis> -x            Attach to a not detached screen. (Multi display mode).
[05:35] <jadon> how do i resume one of those screens
[05:35] <dr_willis> eventually i will paste all of 'screen --help' :)
[05:35] <dr_willis> Multi display is nifty.
[05:36] <pumkinhed__> dr_willis, dont try to paste too much or floodbot...
[05:36] <jadon> woah
[05:36] <dr_willis> i also tend to use byobu instead of screen. seems tomake life easier.
[05:36] <jadon> i just disscovered --help
[05:37] <dr_willis> most commands have --help these days
[05:37] <dr_willis> you may want to explore byobu also jadon .
[05:37] <jadon> kthnks
[05:37] <jadon> Attaching from inside of screen?
[05:38] <jadon> how do i kill/exit a screen session
[05:38] <jadon> ?
[05:38] <jadon> im ssh'ed into a server
[05:39] <s0nee> jadon: take a look at this guide http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi
[05:39] <jadon> oh thanks
[05:39] <jadon> this looks good
[05:39] <dr_willis> i just use byobu which is screen on steroids. :) i ssh in and it auto reatatches for me
[05:40] <dr_willis> theres some other alternatives to screen also. but i havent used them much.
[05:40] <dr_willis> !info tmux
[05:41] <lcsolitary> hello , everyone
[05:41] <share> hi
[05:41] <s0nee> share: lcsolitary hello
[05:42] <lcsolitary> i am use this IRC first ,
[05:42] <lcsolitary> i use this IRC first ,
[05:42] <share> lcsolitary: don't run a program as root lol
[05:43] <share> !cn | lcsolitary
[05:43] <JusticeZero> Hey, does anyone have any tips on how I can diagnose my bad internet? It's not on my end, but I feel like I should be able to slap the network admin with statistics like a dead fish. This is the same guy who told me that my computer must be ancient from looking at me on the login list. :p
[05:43] <lcsolitary> oh , i see
[05:44] <lcsolitary> 试一下，中文
[05:46] <daeos> I recently upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and want to know why is it that when I installed zsnes that all of my other games were uninstalled (ex. OpenArena & Mana World) and when I try to install any other game, zsnes is said to be removed.
[05:46] <share> !english | lcsolitary
[05:46] <lcsolitary> share ，ok.
[05:46] <share> :)
[05:47] <jadon> @s0nee that link was awesome
[05:47] <s0nee> jadon: cool.
[05:47] <dr_willis> !info openarena
[05:47] <lcsolitary> i don't know how to use this program
[05:48] <dr_willis> zsnes did not remove openarena here.. or visa-versa
[05:48] <JusticeZero> whick program lcsolitary, the irc client?
[05:48] <dr_willis> daeos:  this a 32bit or 64bit system?
[05:48] <lcsolitary> yes
[05:49] <JusticeZero> lcsolitary, well, so far you're doing okay.. which client is it and what are you trying to do?
[05:49] <daeos> dr_willis: 64bit , this only occured after installing zsnes .. about 300mb of software was removed just to install zsnes and if I try to add any of them back I see that synaptic AND apt-get want to remove zsnes
[05:50] <lcsolitary> the GUI is so simple that i can't operate it for more action
[05:50] <dr_willis> daeos:  zsnes is a 32bit  only binary last i checked.. i couldent  even get it to install on 64bit installs.
[05:50] <MikeChelen> daeos: try pastebinning the output from apt-get before confirming install
[05:50] <dr_willis> i just tried it on a 32bit system.. let me fire up my other laptop.
[05:50] <JusticeZero> lcsolitary what do you mean 'more action'?
[05:52] <lcsolitary> such as , more info about someone and chat with him/her
[05:52] <daeos> http://pastebin.com/q8S2vKcY
[05:52] <JusticeZero> What client are you using, and did you try rightclicking their name..? Not that there is much information attached to anyone, this is irc.
[05:53] <dr_willis> !info snes9x
[05:53] <dr_willis> !info maverick snes9x
[05:54] <dr_willis> !info  snes9x maverick
[05:54] <lcsolitary> a client named xchat lite ....
[05:54] <MikeChelen> daeos: it looks like different, incompatible versions of libsdl1.2debian-alsa
[05:54] <dr_willis> Hmm. used to use that on my 64bit installs ages ago..
[05:54] <daeos> ah
[05:54] <MikeChelen> daeos: openarena wants 64 bit, zsnes wants 32bit
[05:55] <zykotick9> daeos, zsnes is 32bit only thus the libs are libsdl1.2debian:i386 but the other programs require the 64bit version and (i now guess) require removing the 32bit versions - and thus zsnes
[05:55] <daeos> yeah, jeeze.. so I can't have both installed?
[05:55] <JusticeZero> well, irc is not a very featureful system to begin with. that said did you try rightclicking on a name?
[05:55] <dr_willis> must be how the 11.10 is handleing the 32bit on 64 bit os feature i read about.
[05:55] <dr_willis> daeos:  you are lucky you can even install znes this way. :) befor this release. it was 32bit only.
[05:55] <zykotick9> dr_willis, this is NOT how i hoped multi-arch was going to work, that's for sure.
[05:55] <MikeChelen> daeos: try http://www.playdeb.net/software/bsnes ?
[05:55] <daeos> ahh, well i tell you it is working like a charm.. I can play zsnes just fine
[05:56] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  its a work in progress..
[05:56] <lcsolitary> JusticeZero , i will try ..
[05:56] <daeos> just .. have to uninstall it to play any of those others ;-D
[05:56] <dr_willis> i wonder where snes9x went.. it used to be in the repos
[05:56] <daeos>  bsnes then huh?
[05:57] <MikeChelen> idk if bsnes performance is ok but it should run at least
[05:57] <dr_willis> gsnes i recall was a 64 bit snes emulator.  or was it gtksnes.
[05:57] <randomusr> I've downloaded the Blender executables from blender.org - Where should I place them to maintain standards and how to I create a menu item under applications?
[05:58] <MikeChelen> daeos: could try running bsnes binary instead of using package manager
[05:58] <daeos> ok, I'll try that
[05:58] <Maple> hello
[05:59] <Maple> Bye
[05:59] <rypervenche> !compile | randomusr
[05:59] <dr_willis> !info  snes9x lucid
[06:00] <randomusr> rypervenche, I don't think they are source packages as they just work when I click on them?
[06:00] <lcsolitary> JusticeZero , thank you ... i will be familiar with this program after a couple of days..^_^
[06:00] <daeos> I may just stick with only being able to play one or the other till it breaks ;-D but thank you everyone for the great information
[06:00] <zykotick9> !info snes9x-x lucid
[06:00] <rypervenche> randomusr: Then put them in something like /usr/local/bin/
[06:00] <dr_willis> daeos:  thjeres other snes emulators out there. zsnes is just a popular one
[06:00] <rypervenche> !info znes
[06:01] <dr_willis> http://www.snes9x.com/
[06:01] <daeos> I used zsnes on windows and loved it
[06:01] <rypervenche> !info zsnes
[06:01] <daeos>  its a great program
[06:01] <s0nee> randomusr: is it a archive or a deb file ?
[06:01] <dr_willis> zsnes is showing its age compared to some of the others..
[06:01] <dr_willis> ie: its 32bit still.. and missing some features.
[06:01] <randomusr> s0nee, archive that I extracted to the download folder
[06:02] <s0nee> randomusr: whats the content in there ? is there any script ?
[06:02] <daeos> so I am going to have to install the other alsa driver in order for bsnes to work ... since I can't use apt to install .. unless I find a respository with it
[06:02] <yagoo> daeos, lol
[06:02] <yagoo> daeos, alsa doesnt work? pff.. it's in all linux's repositories..
[06:04] <daeos> yagoo: you should read the convo above about zsnes installing a 32 bit alsa lib while uninstalling my 64bit one
[06:04] <yagoo> lol
[06:04] <yagoo> daeos, it's illegal kid.
[06:04] <dr_willis> !info snes9x-x
[06:04] <rams_pandu> zykotick9, I got it done using windows
[06:05] <zykotick9> rams_pandu, nice.
[06:05] <randomusr> s0nee, 2 executable files and one script, although it doesn't seem to be an installer of any sort. The application recognizes the dependencies as I've installed those first
[06:05] <rams_pandu> zykotick9, my pendrive is working fine now
[06:05] <rams_pandu> exit
[06:05] <s0nee> randomusr: whats the name of the script ? try executing it
[06:05] <yagoo> rams_pandu, exit fail!
[06:05] <yagoo> rams_pandu, which one did u use btw?
[06:05]  * yagoo thinks unetbootin sux
[06:06] <randomusr> s0nee, blender-softwaregl and the blender how to states just to run the .exe
[06:06] <s0nee> yagoo: quick question how do you do that * yagoo thinks unetbootin sux
[06:06]  * dr_willis wonders what s0nee  means.
[06:06] <yagoo> s0nee, it's all bout me.
[06:06] <yagoo> s0nee, me myself and I
[06:06] <rams_pandu> yagoo, I used windows7. went to mycomputet->manage->storage. There i formatted my disk. and thats all.
[06:06] <dr_willis>  /me preforms an action
[06:07] <yagoo> ,/me-myself-I
[06:07] <yagoo> ^
[06:07] <yagoo> try that
[06:07]  * s0nee a
[06:07]  * s0nee thinks thats cool
[06:07] <randomusr> s0nee, I guess I'm just looking for the location to place the files. Wonder if someone else installed blender from synaptic and could tell me where it installs to
[06:07] <yagoo> dr_willis, you gave our secret away. Congratulations.
[06:08]  * yagoo invents /you
[06:08] <yagoo> I slash you!
[06:08] <s0nee> randomusr: did you try executing it ? take a look in the script to see what it does
[06:09] <zykotick9> randomusr, you should put things from outside ubuntu into /opt probably
[06:09] <randomusr> s0nee, it appears to do some type of software rendering but no install
[06:09]  * s0nee thanks yagoo and dr_willis
[06:11] <suppety> Does anyone know of a way to eaily rotate display 90 degrees? ie i start programming and wish to rotate the display to portraite mode? (idealy without restarting or loging out)
[06:11]  * pnorman only has a sarcastic non-useful answer
[06:12] <yagoo> suppety, either turn your head or the monitor sideways
[06:12] <yagoo> lol
[06:12] <zykotick9> suppety, check out xrandr
[06:12] <suppety> yagoo haha yeah i know how to physicaly turn it, i need to turn the resolution.
[06:12] <suppety> zykotick9: thanks
[06:13] <yagoo> suppety, the drver has to support it..
[06:13] <yagoo> suppety, if the driver supports it.. u should be able to with xrandr
[06:13] <suppety> im use twin view as well.
[06:13] <html> suppety,  in windows its control alt , right/left up /down ,         so wich you chosse
[06:13] <BlackDalek> What is video type "video/x-msvideo" - is t a DRM protected format (and is it unplayabvle in Ubuntu)?
[06:13] <yagoo> suppety, dunno.. if it doesn't work with all exhausted options with xrandr.. u may have to look at your driver's extension options for xorg.conf
[06:14] <zykotick9> suppety, nvidia propritary makes the xrandr thing more difficult (or perhaps won't work)
[06:14] <suppety> html: im not on windows
[06:14] <yagoo> zykotick9, oh really? there a doc for that?
[06:15] <suppety> zykotick9: yeah i dont htink it will work becuase srandr sees the displays as ony big one...
[06:15] <zykotick9> yagoo, you need to add some randr thing to xorg i believe, i don't have a link
[06:15] <Aleo> where to find good themes dark based for unity ?
[06:16] <Aleo> or not dark ones, but good
[06:17] <zykotick9> yagoo, xorg requires: Option	"RandRRotation"	"on"
[06:17] <BlackDalek> is x-msvideo a protected video format codec? or is there a way to play this type in Ubuntu?
[06:19] <zykotick9> BlackDalek, have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and w32codecs (or w64codecs) and are you trying with mplayer?
[06:19] <L1nuxRules> are you guys using ATI?
[06:20] <zykotick9> L1nuxRules, do you have an ATI question?  If so, ask it.
[06:20] <ultrixx> L1nuxRules: i have an ati gfx card
[06:21] <L1nuxRules> I will stop joining half way through I saw zykotiks post thought it was related to graaaaaaaphgics drivers but moe likely codecs by seeing more details
[06:22] <suppety> Thanks all, turns out it wont work with twinview, and xinerama is not great... thanks anyway
[06:22] <L1nuxRules> my a key is a bit sticky
[06:22] <zykotick9> L1nuxRules, two different issues actually ;)
[06:24] <L1nuxRules> service restrt :)
[06:25] <randomusr> how do I create and application icon/launcher for software not installed with synaptic?
[06:26] <zykotick9> randomusr, Unity or Gnome?
[06:26] <zykotick9> randomusr, for Gnome use alacarte (aka main menu), for Unity - i have no idea.
[06:26] <L1nuxRules> randomusr it will probbly be in /bin /sbin /or /usr prefix to those
[06:26] <randomusr> zykotick9, I have gnome installed, but I'm not sure I understand the difference in context
[06:27] <zykotick9> randomusr, for Gnome, use System / Preferences / Main Menu (or run alacarte)
[06:28] <L1nuxRules> zybotick9 a way to find it is tyupe the followig
[06:28] <L1nuxRules> updatedb
[06:28] <zykotick9> !tab | L1nuxRules
[06:28] <L1nuxRules> search packagename
[06:28] <L1nuxRules> otherway dpkg | greap serch
[06:29] <zykotick9> L1nuxRules, i don't think you understand what the original poster is asking...
[06:29] <L1nuxRules> sorry dpkg -l | grep packagename
[06:29] <Hdale85> he wants to make a shortcut to a program that's not in the GUI's applications menu
[06:29] <L1nuxRules> Hes asking how to see if something is installed no?
[06:30] <Hdale85> no
[06:30] <L1nuxRules> sorry find where its installed
[06:30] <zykotick9> L1nuxRules, not that either, are you going to keep guessing?
[06:30] <L1nuxRules> not using a package manager i.e by source
[06:31] <L1nuxRules> ^^
[06:31] <html> can someone help with me build a gaming computer?
[06:31] <share> !offtopic
[06:31] <share> !ot
[06:31] <zykotick9> html, install windows ;)
[06:31] <Hdale85> lol
[06:32] <L1nuxRules> html all though thats off topic and I mhate what Im dvising but Windows
[06:32] <share> zykotick9: he's talking about hardware lulz
[06:32] <Hdale85> just get an FX 8 core cpu, lots of ram, some nice video cards.....what else do you need to know
[06:32] <share> skills
[06:33] <Hdale85> bed time
[06:33] <CandyTiger> requires installation of untrusted packages ?? how do I avoid that message ???
[06:33] <CandyTiger> in this case just gegl and focuswriter update
[06:33] <html> linux, zykotick9  i want the hardware help not the sotfware , and i think it is on topic, cuz i dont want a gup or a motherboard not work out
[06:34] <CandyTiger> just wondering
[06:34] <share> html: obviously
[06:34] <share> but that's offtopic this is Ubuntu support channel
[06:34] <L1nuxRules> anyone here clued up with active directory and Linux/Ubuntu integration?
[06:34] <share> html: #defocus ##hardware
[06:34] <share> #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:34] <L1nuxRules> or got any pointers?
[06:35] <julian> hello
[06:35] <share> hello
[06:35] <julian> how to install x2go on ubuntu?
[06:35] <html> it is called wine ppl
[06:35] <newhoa> Hey guys, I'm in Inkscape. When I go to file > print > print to file and select PDF, and under the rendering tab I pick Vector instead of Bitmap. It doesn't ask me for DPI. Is this not necessary?
[06:35] <julian> any idea?
[06:35] <m477> for what other framework openoffice spit?
[06:35] <L1nuxRules> is there any reason ubuntu uses 3 php.ini files over the httpd opposite
[06:37] <m477> libraryoffice or something like that?
[06:37] <zykotick9> m477, libreoffice you mean?
[06:37] <ifvoid_> OK
[06:37] <ifvoid_> WTF people?
[06:37] <m477> yes
[06:37] <m477> zykotick9: is it better then openoffice?
[06:37] <ifvoid_> Gnome became even more unusable after upgrading to 11.10
[06:38] <html> share,  * #defocus :Cannot send to channel , what up with that?
[06:38] <zykotick9> m477, ? i don't know about better - it's not Oracle though, that's a plus
[06:38] <julian> any person have idea... (how to install x2go on ubuntu 11.)
[06:38] <m477> zykotick9: is it possible to instal it on lucid?
[06:38] <zykotick9> m477, i have no idea
[06:38] <share> html: ask in #freenode
[06:39] <L1nuxRules> you do know people if you learnt how Linux packagement worked yuou dont have to go with what your distro otfhers
[06:39] <zykotick9> !register | html
[06:39] <L1nuxRules> ofers*
[06:39] <L1nuxRules> offers*
[06:39] <zykotick9> L1nuxRules, that's actually BAD advice, but do what you want - but don't recommend it to others.
[06:40] <zykotick9> !wfm | L1nuxRules
[06:40] <L1nuxRules> zykotick9 sorry Im an old skool Linux user I started compiling from source and its the best way to learn!
[06:40] <zykotick9> L1nuxRules, so am i - but i've learned...
[06:41] <L1nuxRules> no you havent else you wouldnt be scared to break it
[06:41] <x2> exit
[06:41] <CandyTiger> still not able to update several packages. tried checking out options in update manager. still claims It needs packages from unauthenticated sources ???? how do I solve that ?
[06:42] <yagoo> L1nuxRules, if you're so smart then why are you not talking in a development channel? hmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
[06:42] <L1nuxRules> canyytiger try aptitude to upgrade your packages will at least give you reasons for conflicts
[06:43] <L1nuxRules> yagoo Im a sys admin and Linux not ubuntu skilled
[06:43] <L1nuxRules> and out of date
[06:43] <bazhang> !ot | L1nuxRules
[06:43] <yagoo> L1nuxRules, you don't need "ubuntu" skills to realize that dpkg is on more than just ubuntu.
[06:43] <yagoo> pff
[06:43] <bruno_brotspecht> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  im here because this page told me to... anybode got an idea what i can do to make ubuntu finding my hard-drive again?
[06:44] <L1nuxRules> yagoo I know its Debian what sways I said it wasd ubuntu?
[06:44] <bazhang> L1nuxRules, thats enough
[06:44] <ifvoid_> i mean, where did all the configuration options go?!
[06:44] <yagoo> L1nuxRules, ok we caught you with the pants down. Php.ini has your fears over httpd very good.
[06:44] <L1nuxRules> what Im responding to questions?
[06:45] <bazhang> L1nuxRules, this is not the chat channel. please stop
[06:45] <L1nuxRules> yagoo ok my experince was with an Ubuntu server I know its from Debian just wording nothing technical
[06:46] <L1nuxRules> last OT
[06:46] <bazhang> yagoo, lets move on please
[06:46] <yagoo> bazhang, My pants aren't down. Sorry.
[06:46] <yagoo> pff
[06:51] <L1nuxRules> is OT allowed when its quiet?
[06:51] <bazhang> L1nuxRules, no
[06:51] <golkeon> oh god
[06:52]  * yagoo thinks L1nuxRules should go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:52] <L1nuxRules> OT stilll Ubuntu related just not desktop support i.e server or Ubutu suggestions?
[06:52] <L1nuxRules> Im only asking btw
[06:54] <golkeon> I got a question, why has ubuntu live gotten progressively and exponentially slower since 9.10? 11.04 live is unbelievably slow even booting form flashdrive
[06:54] <golkeon> from*
[06:54] <L1nuxRules> can I say Ubuntu rules as out of the box desktop OS?
[06:55] <Madpilot> golkeon, really? 11.10 LiveCD has the fastest LiveCD boot yet. I can't stand Unity, but have no speed complaints, even on LiveCD.
[06:55] <L1nuxRules> or is that OT?
[06:55] <golkeon> no 9.10 was much quicker trust me
[06:55] <golkeon> I use it all the time for backing up machines
[06:56]  * yagoo cant wait for his miniitx to comein
[06:56] <L1nuxRules> I had a test server at work booted 10.04 in 3 secs
[06:56] <golkeon> live to desktpo not from HDD
[06:56] <L1nuxRules> Ubuntu fast booters :)
[06:58] <Efazati> hi all, i want download some package and then move to home to install ... for example i want install postgresql and mysql ,,, with simple apt i can install with all dependency . how i can download all pakage with dependency in other system and move to base system?
[06:59] <L1nuxRules> efazati sorry that isnt in computer english whats the issue and what do you need?
[07:00] <zykotick9> !aptoncd | Efazati
[07:00] <zykotick9> Efazati, other option is copy the all the DEBs from /var/cache/apt/archives
[07:00] <L1nuxRules> no where near hes asking a server issue at least
[07:00] <Efazati> zykotick9, oh thanks but i have debian hear
[07:00] <L1nuxRules> sql
[07:00] <Efazati> and ubuntu in home
[07:01] <Efazati> there is any cross way?
[07:01] <zykotick9> Efazati, i have no idea - but disregard my suggestions
[07:02] <Efazati> tnx
[07:03] <CaptWho> !nounity
[07:04] <zykotick9> CaptWho, "similar to GNOME 2" but it's NOT gnome2
[07:04] <dinexi> Hello. I am trying to find any city which is located in CDT timezone and can be added to the indicator applet's clock. Can anybody advice one? For my timezone (UTC+6) I am using Asia/Novosibirsk. What can I use for CDT?
[07:04] <yagoo> CaptWho, you should install these (sudo if nec)->apt-get install gnome-shell gnome-fallback-session gnome-classic
[07:04] <badapple> chicago
[07:04] <yagoo> CaptWho, and gnome-tweak-tool
[07:05] <yagoo> CaptWho, at the logon window.. you will then have to click the gear picture to get different desktops
[07:05] <badapple> that is what I use for CTZ
[07:05] <badapple> err CDT I mean
[07:06] <dinexi> badapple: thank you. so now it is midnight in CDT?
[07:06] <dinexi> Sorry!
[07:06] <dinexi> 2:00am
[07:06] <badapple> no 2:10
[07:07] <dinexi> Thank you very much.
[07:07] <badapple> yw :)
[07:09] <Hemebond> How do I run a Python script when I log in so it runs in the background until I log off?
[07:10] <WHAT_UP> question: how did i get to "Mem:  16379692k total, 16285912k used,    93780k free,  6739996k buffers" when i only have like 5 tabs in chrome and pidgin open?
[07:10] <zykotick9> !atemyram | WHAT_UP
[07:14] <chaos_> is this a helper channel?
[07:15] <WHAT_UP> zykotick9: would you happen to know how linux decides what to cache?
[07:15] <chaos_> hello
[07:15] <WHAT_UP> chaos_: at times
[07:15] <chaos_> yes it catches everything
[07:15] <chaos_> colds viruses
[07:15] <chaos_> everything man
[07:15] <maslen> How can I make a bash script not print out the command that is being ran?
[07:16] <zykotick9> WHAT_UP, what it's caching I don't specifically know.  everything i'd guess.
[07:16] <WHAT_UP> zykotick9: hmm
[07:16] <WHAT_UP> zykotick9: it can't cache everything, there simply isn't enough ram for that
[07:16] <zykotick9> WHAT_UP, sorry, perhaps "anything it can" would be more accurate
[07:17] <Hemebond> maslen: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/io-redirection.html
[07:17] <WHAT_UP> zykotick9: do you know if it does it in a reasonably smart way? like, that it won't cache things that have never been used before?
[07:17] <doctor_h> What if your os install is like 4gb and your ram is 8gb. Can you have it cache everything?
[07:17] <dr_willis> install to a ram drive. :)
[07:17] <chaos_> maslen: bash script output can be redirected to /dev/null if you wanted no output
[07:18] <zykotick9> WHAT_UP, i'd imagine the folks that do the kernel, know what they're doing.
[07:18] <maslen> Hemebond, chaos_: I'm running a python script as part of my bash script, and I don't want the output of the script to include the line of invoking the python script.
[07:18] <WHAT_UP> zykotick9: sounds about right. thanks!
[07:18] <maslen> However, I do want the output of the python script.
[07:19] <s0nee> maslen: bash script does not echo the command, just the output of it
[07:19] <doctor_h> Maybe the guys that make the kernal only are using 512mb to 1gb of ram. They prolly dont know people now have 8gb machines.
[07:19] <maslen> s0nee: This one appears to.
[07:19] <peppes1> ciao
[07:19] <peppes1> !list
[07:20] <zykotick9> doctor_h, you're funny.  Some of those kernel programs have access to hardware we probably couldn't even imagine
[07:20] <s0nee> maslen: how ?
[07:20] <zykotick9> s/programs/programmers/
[07:21] <Hdale85> zykotick9, it's not like linux developers are paid big bucks
[07:21] <wooter> doctor_h, ram still has to be loaded from a hard drive unless its constantly powered, defeats the purpose
[07:21] <Hdale85> a lot of them work for free
[07:21] <maslen> s0nee: It displays the full python command I invoke. Strangely enough, it does not print the commands above or below it.
[07:21] <doctor_h> I can donate to those kernal guys. I have a old 128mb stick laying around. Im sure they can put it to awesome use.
[07:21] <chaos_> i keep gettin gtk warnings about theme module pixmap.. does anyone know how to get some themage in ubuntu 11.10
[07:21] <zykotick9> Hdale85, and a lot of them work for HUGE companys and are getting HUGE salaries (in fact very few are volunteer anymore)
[07:21] <s0nee> maslen: then im pretty sure the problem is python
[07:22] <Hemebond> chaos_: There's a package for pixmap engine.
[07:22] <Waceman> nVidia Legacy driver issues. Installed 71xx from nVidia website as this was the only pack which supports my GeForce 256 DDR. When my Ubuntu 10.04 reboots, screen flashes and gives error:
[07:22] <Waceman> (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
[07:22] <Hdale85> I think you'd be surprised how many are volunteer, pretty much any program on linux is created by some open source community
[07:22] <Waceman> (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (loader failed, 7)
[07:22] <Waceman> (EE) No drivers available
[07:23] <Hdale85> but yeah there are still a lot htat are paid well, but I think most of the big paying jobs are in the unix/sun area
[07:24] <zykotick9> Hdale85, http://apcmag.com/linux-now-75-corporate.htm 75% paid
[07:24] <Hdale85> in something as big as linux 25% is still a lot
[07:24] <zykotick9> Hdale85, unix/sun is almost dead - linux is where it's at.
[07:26] <TheThing> hi. have gnome 2.20. wanna paint over desktop with my mouse. what program can help me?
[07:26] <badapple> use compiz
[07:27] <badapple> there is a plugin that allows this
[07:27] <Hdale85> can't decide if I want to put ubuntu on this desktop....
[07:27] <TheThing> badapple, have compiz. what's the name of plugin?
[07:27] <Hdale85> I know pretty soon I'll be playing some new games so I probably shouldn't
[07:28] <TheThing> badapple, found it. big thanks!
[07:28] <badapple> yw :)
[07:31] <hey_joe> i keep trying to use 'ssh -R 9999:localhost:22 user@remotehost' to tunnel an ssh connection for my locked up work machine.  this works, but I must first ssh to remotehost, then establish a connection to localhost on port 9999 to connect to my locked up work machine.
[07:31] <hey_joe> is there a way to make this bind to a specific up or interface on the remotehost side? so i can skip logging into the remote host, and ssh directly to remotehost:9999 ?  i have tried the typical remotehost:9999:localhost:22... howver it fails to bind on remotehost's wan ip.
[07:31] <hey_joe> any tips?
[07:31] <hey_joe> remotehost has a dedicated ip, and i can bind to ports.
[07:33] <timloveskim> How can i installed Nvidia drivers on 11.10?
[07:33] <yagoo> hey_joe, i don't think you're supposed to be doing that..
[07:33] <dr_willis> timloveskim:  i just use the package manger/addational-drivers/jockey-gtk tool for that...
[07:34] <timloveskim> wheres that at?
[07:34] <hey_joe> yagoo..
[07:34] <timloveskim> i got the linux driver package
[07:34] <hey_joe> its legit.
[07:34] <dr_willis> timloveskim:  you can run 'jockey-gtk' or look in the menus for 'addational drivers'
[07:34] <dr_willis> timloveskim:   what 'driver package' ?
[07:34] <yagoo> hey_joe, dunno.. you should check with your company policy?
[07:34] <yagoo> hey_joe, btw u would use another option
[07:34] <hey_joe> what option?
[07:34] <yagoo> ,/persay-- an additional option
[07:35] <hey_joe> ive tried fooling with sshd_config
[07:35] <hey_joe> to avail.
[07:35] <searching> Lubuntu 11.10 hang to install why?
[07:35] <hey_joe> hrm
[07:36] <dr_willis> theres a way from pc1, you can ssh to pc2 and have it just run a command, like whatever setup command you are using. hey_joe
[07:36] <ifvoid_> so
[07:36] <ifvoid_> how do I configrue a screensaver in 11.10?
[07:36] <dr_willis> ifvoid_:  seems they trimmed out that :)
[07:36] <hey_joe> dr_willis: i need a static mysql connection.
[07:37] <ifvoid_> dr_willis: indeed
[07:37] <dr_willis> hey_joe:  theres always the down and dirty use of /etc/rc.local
[07:37] <yagoo> hey_joe, there's actually a number of ways you can automate this-- probably 1 you'd be familar with is -c
[07:37] <ifvoid_> my god
[07:37] <hey_joe> and for some reason althou it works on the remotehost, mysql client automatically assumes localhost is on the default mysql port.
[07:37] <ifvoid_> thsi is really unbelievable
[07:37] <yagoo> hey_joe, if you're using putty, u can setup what command to run right away after login
[07:37] <dr_willis> ifvoid_:  i belive the webupd8 blog site mentioned  using the xscreensavers and replaceing gnomescreensavers
[07:37] <yagoo> pff
[07:37] <ifvoid_> yeah well
[07:37] <hey_joe> hrm
[07:37] <yagoo> mysql now
[07:37] <hey_joe> it all works on remotehow.
[07:37] <yagoo> geez WIZ
[07:38] <hey_joe> remotehost.
[07:38] <dr_willis> ifvoid_:  gnome2 dident really have much in the way of configuring screensavers either.
[07:38] <ifvoid_> I am just going to replace Gnoem and Ubuntu by something decent and usable, I think
[07:38] <yagoo> have a good day um hey_joe
[07:38] <hey_joe> problem is its binding to the remotehost on the local ip.
[07:38] <dr_willis> ifvoid_:  its your time.. have a nice day.
[07:38] <hey_joe> thus i have to ssh there first.
[07:38] <ifvoid_> that will give me a lot less frustration
[07:38] <dr_willis> changeing disrtos because of screensavers.. :)
[07:38] <ifvoid_> dr_willis: at least Iw as able to set the timeouts and disbale all the fancy crap
[07:38] <ifvoid_> dr_willis: not just screensavers
[07:39] <ifvoid_> dr_willis: its s symptom of the contempt that the Gnome people seem to treat their users withj
[07:39] <ifvoid_> and by extention, the Ubuntu developers
[07:39] <dr_willis> Gnome Devs are pushing the idiot-proofing of the gui. BUt thats what the people seem to demand...
[07:40] <dr_willis> but this is not really the right channel for the discussion of that.
[07:40] <searching> hey why I can't install Lubuntu ?
[07:40] <ifvoid_> dr_willis: right
[07:40] <ifvoid_> dr_willis: anyway, thanks for your help
[07:40] <dr_willis> searching:  whats the exact issue/where its stopping?
[07:41] <dr_willis> some how 'user friendly' became 'lack of options'
[07:41] <dr_willis> but thats all i have to say for that. :)
[07:41] <kleopatra> how can i cahge PATH permanently? cant find an entry in bashrc
[07:41] <searching> in the installation time hang at searching laptop desktop
[07:41] <dr_willis> kleopatra:  .profile perhaps.
[07:42] <dr_willis> .profile:    PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"
[07:42] <dr_willis> kleopatra:  for all users. i think it soulw be /etc/profile
[07:43] <zykotick9> kleopatra, one detail regarding .profile - be sure to create ~/bin if you use the line supplied by dr_willis
[07:44] <dr_willis> thats just a quote from the .profile  not a command :)
[07:44] <dr_willis> willis@BlackLaptop:~$ grep PATH .*
[07:44] <dr_willis> .profile:# set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
[07:44] <dr_willis> .profile:    PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"
[07:44] <zykotick9> dr_willis, there is a test directly above that PATH line - for if ~/bin then add the line you've given
[07:45] <celltech> Clearly there's a lot of things running in my background. My fan has been running full force for over 3hr's. It only does that when it's running like crazy. How do I shut down unused things on 11.01
[07:45] <zaoul1> whats the deal with apparmor, isnt selinux good enough? why reinvent the wheel? On top of apparmor bugs everything out so you end up disabling it anyway.
[07:45] <celltech> 11.04*
[07:46] <altin> hi, Im adding aliases but it seems that everytime I restart my computer they get removed
[07:46] <dr_willis> wonder what /etc/environment is used for. it seems to define the PATH also.
[07:46] <altin> is there any way of adding them permanently ?
[07:46] <fatboy21007> How do i install the nvidia linux drivers?
[07:46] <histo> celltech: ps aux  or top will give you a list of running pids
[07:46] <dr_willis> altin:  adding them where/how?
[07:46] <histo> !nvidia > fatboy21007
[07:46] <celltech> Do i have to install it?
[07:46] <dr_willis> altin:   put the definitions in the users home config files.
[07:46] <altin> dr_willis: till now I did $ alias altin='blla blla'
[07:47] <dr_willis> altin:  yes.. thats not permenet...
[07:47] <altin> ahh
[07:47] <altin> so how can I add permanent ?
[07:47] <zykotick9> altin, .bashrc
[07:47] <dr_willis> altin:  see the info in the .bashrc  they mention a file you can make to keep them in
[07:47] <altin> ok
[07:47] <dr_willis> bash fundamentals day here on irc. :)
[07:48] <dr_willis> # Alias definitions.
[07:48] <dr_willis> # You may want to put all your additions into a separate file like
[07:48] <dr_willis> # ~/.bash_aliases, instead of adding them here directly.
[07:48] <warm> Hi, I can't find startup application  in 11.10, and the $HOME/.xsession won't work either.
[07:49] <fatboy21007> not wat i was hopin for
[07:49] <fatboy21007> im tryon to get a mmo called Xsyon to work on 11.10 but it wont
[07:49] <altin> dr_willis: zykotick9 thnx :)
[07:49] <dr_willis> warm:  what are you trying to startup exactly? theres ~/.config/autostart/
[07:49] <fatboy21007> each time it starts i get an earror
[07:50]  * Waceman nVidia Legacy driver issues. Installed 71xx from nVidia website as this was the only pack which supports my GeForce 256 DDR. When my Ubuntu 10.04 reboots, screen flashes and gives error:  
[07:50] <fatboy21007> i got wine-playlinux and crossover (tryin crossover now)
[07:50]  * Waceman (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
[07:50]  * Waceman (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (loader failed, 7)
[07:50] <warm> dr_willis, then?
[07:50] <dr_willis> fatboy21007:  you did check the wine app database?
[07:50] <dr_willis> warm:  then... you may want to give us more details as to what you are trying to do...
[07:50] <warm> I'd like to autostart stardict on start
[07:50] <Hemebond> Waceman: Did you remove the Ubuntu packages?
[07:51] <dr_willis> make a script to start it in autostart, or find its .desktop file and copy it there.
[07:51] <hey_joe> stupid secondary gateway i had in my office under my desk.
[07:51] <hey_joe> the nat was messing it up.
[07:51] <Waceman> Hemebond: You mean nVidia packages?
[07:51] <Hemebond> Yes.
[07:51]  * hey_joe headdesk
[07:52] <warm> I am not sure what to do to autostart an app. like writing command into some files?
[07:52] <dr_willis>   #!/bin/bash
[07:52] <dr_willis> commandtostart &
[07:52] <Hemebond> I would also like to know what file should contain autostart commands when I login.
[07:53] <dr_willis> 2 lines. :) in a file.. make the file executable.. put it in autostart
[07:53] <dr_willis> Hemebond:  the autostart directory can contain scripts, links to executables, or .destop files
[07:53] <Hemebond> Hmm, cheers dr_willis
[07:53] <warm> dr_willis, oh.  I know, thanks~
[07:53] <dr_willis> some windowmanager/desktops might ignore the autostart directory.  depending on what you are using
[07:54] <Waceman> Hemebond: No I didn't, since only "nvidia-common" & the modaliases drivers are installed
[07:54] <Hemebond> dr_willis: Ah. Is there no standard file or directory?
[07:54] <warm> dr_willis, gnome3 on 11.10
[07:54] <Hemebond> Like .xsession?
[07:54] <Hemebond> Waceman: You need to remove them all.
[07:54] <dr_willis> .xsession is used when you select custome in the login/gdm screen
[07:54] <dr_willis> its NOT used if you select some other session.
[07:55] <awanti> Hello friends.. I'm not expert in ubuntu, i need u r help to setup local repository in our office. We are recently migrated to Ubuntu 10.04. Currently every pc is updating from internet. (we are having 10 pc's in our office)
[07:55] <dr_willis> at least thats how it used to work
[07:55] <Hemebond> What about .xinitrc?
[07:55] <dr_willis> .xsession  is not used in ADDATION to your selected session.. same for .xinitrc
[07:55] <dr_willis> You want to auto start stuff in gnome.. best to use the autostart dir.
[07:56] <Hemebond> I'm not using Gnome.
[07:56] <dr_willis> you want total controll of everything that starts. including the window manager - then theres .xinitrc/xsession
[07:56] <dr_willis> other wm's may have their own methods.
[07:56] <dr_willis> so it all 'depends' on what you are using
[07:56] <Hemebond> That's lame. I thought Linux had standardised this already.
[07:57] <dr_willis> Hemebond:  has nothing to do with 'linux' or any 'standard'
[07:57] <dr_willis> the wms can do what they want..
[07:57] <dr_willis> most desktops support the autostart directory as their standard.
[07:57] <Hemebond> When I say "Linux" I meant the Linux community.
[07:57] <dr_willis> theres also  system wide auto start directory.
[07:57] <dr_willis> but again.. the window manager/desktop has to use it.
[07:58] <Hemebond> I'll try using ~/.config/autostart/
[07:58] <Hemebond> with bash scripts.
[07:58] <dr_willis> what desktop/wm are you using?
[07:58] <Hemebond> Xubuntu.
[07:58] <Hemebond> Xfce
[07:58] <bahamas> hello. i keep trying to solve issues with my wireless and i stumbled onto this http://askubuntu.com/questions/12355/broadcom-bcm4313-working-but-terribly-slow/67806#67806 . where should i get that driver from though?
[07:58] <Waceman> Hemebond: Found this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseNotes#nVidia_"legacy"_video_support
[07:59] <dr_willis> check the xfce docs i gues.. I thought it also used autostart.
[07:59] <histo> Hemebond: linux does have standards however, if you are using gnome/kde they have differen't ways of controlling startup.
[07:59] <histo> Hemebond: if you are using just plain X then I would use your .xinitrc to control which apps are run on X starting.
[07:59] <mirrakor> hey there, when I want to upload a package to ppa it rejects it because I use the wrong distro attribute, but how is Oneiric Ocelot abbriviated?
[07:59] <dr_willis> I belive the use of .desktop files in autostart may be more flexiable. you can define apps to start or not for kde, or gnome and so on.
[08:00] <histo> Hemebond: What window manager or environment are you using?
[08:00] <Hemebond> histo: Nah, I'm using LightDM, I'm just trying to make my profile as WM independent as possible.
[08:00] <mirrakor> oneiric
[08:00] <Hemebond> histo: For example, I've switched to xbindkeys for all my keyboard shortcuts.
[08:01] <dr_willis>  /etc/xdg/autostart/ has system wide auto-starting stuff
[08:01] <histo> Hemebond: then I would go with .xinitrc since it gets called regardless of the environment. Stuff is starting to lean towards the .desktop files though now but it's not adopted accross the board.
[08:01] <histo> Hemebond: like openbox will use .desktop files etc...
[08:01] <histo> Hemebond: if you have xdg installed
[08:02] <fatboy21007> i have the addition drivers installed, however im still missing the 3d acceleration, Playlinux keeps saying i dont have it
[08:02] <fatboy21007> How can i get it?
[08:03] <histo> Hemebond: .xinitrc would be used to start the window manager of your choosing
[08:03] <fatboy21007> got a Evga gts 450, seems it doesnt have drivers yet even with addition drivers activated
[08:03] <histo> !nvidia > fatboy21007
[08:03] <dr_willis> i recall someone mentioning that  lightdm dident have a 'custome' session  that ran .xinitrc or .xsesion for some reason
[08:04] <histo> Hemebond: How are you invoking X with startx or are you using a login manager?
[08:04] <Hemebond> histo: I'm using a login manager. It's Ubuntu 11.10 with xubuntu-desktop installed.
[08:05] <histo> dr_willis: I thought lightdm was a login manager not a environment.
[08:05] <rasta1> holaaaaaa
[08:05] <rasta1> aslguien
[08:05] <histo> Hemebond: you'd have to read what xdm calls for it's session managment.
[08:05] <awanti> please any one can guide me to setup local repository on Ubuntu 10.04
[08:06] <histo> dr_willis: nvm i'm wrong i'm reading about it now
[08:06] <dr_willis> histo:  and it has a list of sessiont it can start for the user. :)
[08:07] <dr_willis>  for example /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop
[08:07] <dr_willis> more .desktop files. :) getting common heh.
[08:07] <histo> dr_willis: yeah it uses /usr/share/sessions/....
[08:09] <dr_willis> some package includes a 'custome.desktop' that runs the .xinitrc/.xsession (gdm most likely)
[08:09] <ravn2> folks, I removed the global menu packages, and that works well for all aplications I tried so far except thunderbird and firefox. Is there any additional package to remove get these menus back?
[08:09] <dr_willis> ravn2:  firefox has its own extension that you may need to remove.
[08:09] <dr_willis> No idea on thunderbird.
[08:10] <dr_willis> to get global menus on ff. you had to install some extension, so to remove the feature. you need to remove the extension i recall.
[08:10] <ravn2> dr_willis: ok, I suspected that, do you know what the package is called?
[08:10] <dr_willis> No idea. :) disable it in ff perhaps? i use chrome all the time now a days
[08:11] <s0nee> hey when i build from source "make" auto stops when a pkg is not installed. is there anyway to get it run all the way then report needed dependencies ?
[08:11] <dr_willis> webupd8 blog site had a few tweak articals on global menu/general 11.10+ tweaks
[08:11] <dr_willis> s0nee:  if the thing you are compiling is allready in teh repos (an older version perhaps) you can use the build-dep option to apt-get , to install all needed deps.
[08:11] <dr_willis> ie: sudo apt-get build-deps weechat
[08:12] <dr_willis> would pull in all needed -dev packages to compile weechat
[08:12] <s0nee> dr_willis: hmm but its not in the repo ... anyway thanks
[08:12] <dr_willis> s0nee:  that makes it harder then. :)
[08:13] <histo> s0nee: weechat is in the repo
[08:13] <maffelu> When installing Ubuntu on an XP-machine, can you create a partition via the installer or do you have to create a fresh partition before installing it?
[08:13] <dr_willis> histo:  it was an example....
[08:13] <s0nee> dr_willis: i have never built a pkg from source and i want to try it lol
[08:13] <histo> dr_willis: ohh
[08:13] <histo> s0nee: what package are you trying to build?
[08:13] <tdn> How do I install the non-free Java in 11.10?
[08:13] <histo> man i'm off
[08:13] <dr_willis> histo:  and if you wantd to compile a NEWER version.. build-dep makes it easier.
[08:13] <soss> hey this question might seem silly, setting up a basic kiosk for work using ubuntu, and ive managed pretty much everything i was needing, basically, i need to run an application at startup, but i only want it to run on the kiosk user when it logs on, but if i add it to startup applications it runs for every user at logon, how do i make it only run for one specific user?
[08:13] <dr_willis> !java
[08:14] <tdn> dr_willis, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java seems outdated. It mentions lucid mirrors.
[08:14] <histo> soss: how did you add it to startup?
[08:14] <dr_willis> soss:  each user has their own ~/.config/autostart/ directory
[08:14] <s0nee> histo: what pkg doesnt matter. is there any way to make "make" run all the way then report missing pkgs ? now it auto stops when a pkg is not installed
[08:15] <histo> s0nee: no how can it build with out having the needed tools
[08:15] <sqrl_gk> hi
[08:15] <soss> i added it to startup using the startup applications preferences
[08:15] <tdn> dr_willis, it says, for instance: sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner"   Should I really do that in 11.10? I already have deb http://archive.canonical.com oneiric partner
[08:15] <tdn> But sun-java packages are not available for install.
[08:16] <s0nee> histo: its configuring
[08:16] <histo> soss: then it should only run when that user logs in
[08:16] <sqrl_gk> i out of conscious removed my pmutils package frm 11.10
[08:16] <sqrl_gk> now i can't login to ubuntu.
[08:16] <histo> s0nee: i don't know what package you are trying to build so I can't really help nor do I know the error you are getting.
[08:16] <zaoul1> i was trying to use ubuntu and it didnt work, derp
[08:16] <soss> oh, ok, i must have done something stupid somewhere then, thanks
[08:18] <orated> Hello! I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 linux and from the packages I could find lyx package for latex. sudo apt-get install lyx suggests ~450MiB of data to be downloaded whereas sudo apt-get --no-install-recommend install lyx suggests 12MiB of data.. Is it sufficient to have these packages - http://pastebin.com/GzS5kcTi ?
[08:18] <dr_willis> tdn:  i just use the java in the repos.. i dont bother with orcal's java any more
[08:19] <tdn> dr_willis, well, I need the non-free one.
[08:19] <tdn> It is required to use government services.
[08:19] <dr_willis> check the forums and askubuntu.com perhaps.
[08:19] <tdn> Such as filling out IRS forms.
[08:19] <dr_willis> you need to download somthing from orcal now for their offical 'sun' java
[08:19] <dr_willis> due to them deciding you now MUST check their eula box to download it...
[08:20] <s0nee> histo: i found the solution. thanks though
[08:20] <histo> dr_willis: java packages have been removed then from the repos???
[08:21] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/5567/how-to-install-the-sun-java-jdk
[08:21] <dr_willis> histo:  the offical 'sun' java (orcal) did somthign to their licensing a few months back.. so THEIR java is not there.
[08:22] <histo> hrm.. I live under a rock
[08:22] <dr_willis> theres also unofficial-slightly-not-legal ppa's of the java7 i belive.
[08:23] <dr_willis> orcale just seems to really mess up anything they get their hands on. :()
[08:23] <s0nee> orated: if a pkg is "recommended" then its optional. if you can still run the program then recommended pkgs dont have to be installed
[08:28] <tdn> dr_willis, so there are no mirrors anymore?
[08:28] <dr_willis> tdn:   unoffical and perhaps less then legal ppa's i hear.. but i dont need the orcale java for anything i do. so i just use the icedtea java
[08:29] <tdn> dr_willis, is there a de-facto official PPA?
[08:30] <dr_willis> tdn:  orcale says   NO.. to such a thing i belive.
[08:30] <dr_willis> you have to get it from their web site, and check their eula. due to their licensing change.. (if i rember right)
[08:30] <dr_willis> was a big stink about it a few months back... I dont recall the details
[08:30] <tdn> dr_willis, ok, but you said that there is PPAs I can use, right?
[08:30] <dr_willis> I thought the !java factoid mentioned it.
[08:31] <user_> :o
[08:31] <tdn> dr_willis, maybe it should be updated.
[08:31] <dr_willis> unless they have been taken down..
[08:32] <tdn> dr_willis, not even sure how to download and install it from java.com? It does not provide a .deb. What to do?
[08:34] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html
[08:34] <ecthiender> hello, i am trying to connect my computer to a router but it fails. where can i look for error logs in order to troubleshoot?
[08:34] <dr_willis> tdn:  you use their installer like the guides say.
[08:34] <dr_willis> webupd8 site seems to have ppa's for it also..
[08:35] <tdn> dr_willis, ok.
[08:35] <tdn> Will try it. Thanks.
[08:37] <ecthiender> in dmesg i get link is down
[08:39] <tdn> dr_willis, http://p.adora.dk/P2210.html
[08:39] <tdn> dr_willis, think the ppa is down?
[08:39] <maubuntu> !chat
[08:39] <tdn> dr_willis, or not available for oneiric?
[08:40] <canihojr> buenas
[08:40] <tdn> http://ppa.launchpad.net/nilarimogard/webupd8/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[08:40] <tdn> It seems up...
[08:40] <dr_willis> tdn:  no idea.. i dont use it..
[08:41] <canihojr> Se me queda pillado ubuntu 11.10, y me he dado cuenta que siempre es por culpa de flash.... e
[08:41] <szal> !es | canihojr
[08:41] <html> what gpu known to work with wine , and unity?
[08:42] <canihojr> thanks :P
[08:42] <ecthiender> hello, i am trying to connect my computer to a router but it fails. where can i look for error logs in order to troubleshoot?
[08:42] <dr_willis> html:  unity needs 3d support unless you areusing unity 3d. so  most gpu's should work.
[08:42] <dr_willis> html: wine - depends on what you are running in wine
[08:43] <html> its a brand new gameing comuter
[08:43] <dr_willis> html:  that tells us very little about what GPU is actually in the machine
[08:43] <html> i need help picking the parts
[08:43] <dr_willis> now we are at the actual question. :)
[08:43] <dr_willis> go with nvidia.
[08:44] <html> ? why them?
[08:44] <dr_willis> you asked what ones are known to work.....
[08:44] <dr_willis> and you want a gameing machine..
[08:44] <html> i am thankful for you help , but i need to keep in mind the reason why
[08:45] <dr_willis> of course 'gaming machine' and 'linux box' are often  very differnt in its needs.
[08:45] <html> ? huh  whats that ?
[08:45] <dr_willis> html:  because ati stinks. :0  and intel dont have the power for gaming machine...
[08:45] <html> lol!!!!
[08:45] <html> "intel strinks"
[08:45] <dr_willis> if you have a dual-sli nvidia setip.. whats going to use it in  linux?  unless you are planing on using games in wine.
[08:46] <dr_willis> Intel works very well.. but its not for high end gameing.
[08:46] <html> wine hopefuly
[08:46] <dr_willis> If you re going to game in linux using wine... and want to  focus on gaming.. well.. you should be dual booting.
[08:46] <dr_willis> It depends on the games also.
[08:46] <html> 600$ to 750 is my limit
[08:47] <dr_willis> for the card or the whole system?
[08:47] <dr_willis> :)
[08:47] <dr_willis> i got a decent asus i7 system 8gb ram. nvidia card. essentio for $777 the other day.
[08:48] <dr_willis> runs linux decently well.. decent for games.. upgradeable later.
[08:48] <dr_willis> watch the sales this holiday season :)
[08:48] <zaoul1> yea c compilers are overrated
[08:49] <zaoul1> pffff silly programs
[08:49] <html> i dont know  im stuck with the whole thing,  i am going to make this for a buddy  to play "wow or like games"   and a media center ps tv tuner
[08:49] <html> dr_willis,  777? got lucky ?
[08:49] <html> dr_willis,  777? got lucky ? lol got milk?
[08:51] <dr_willis> on clearance, and they had an open box display. saved me like $120 that way
[08:52] <html> dr_willis,  so i am thininking  an   amd  cup min of 4cores thats all i got
[08:53] <dr_willis> I just got what i found on sale. :) was looking for an i5 - found an i7 on sale.
[08:54] <dr_willis> theres hardware review sites that have lists of whats the best value for the $$. thats what i target.
[08:54] <html> well if i did that then i cant get a kickass psu and case
[08:55] <html> well i did that, and im stuck , i forgot how to put the parts so they match
[08:55] <html> wow its  DEEAADDD lol in here
[08:57] <html> well if i did that then i cant get a kickass psu and case
[08:57] <TheBoxTheory> offtopic but i'll say it. AwwsomeWM Ftw!
[08:58] <html> dr_willis,  so have you put together a gaming lunix box
[08:59] <html> TheBoxTheory,  then join me in that off topic,  which #hardware is a near "Ghout townLOL
[09:00] <dr_willis> 'gaming linux box' when no games need the power.. :)
[09:00] <dr_willis> or the ones that do need the power.. would be crippled in wine..
[09:03] <rabbi1> what's the keyboard shortcut to open the terminal ?
[09:04] <pawan_tejwani> did anybody configured (private) cloud using xen ?
[09:15] <orated> Hello! I'm running a dual-boot OS with Ubuntu 11.10 and Windows 7. I noticed that Windows 7 during and after boot doesn't make any fan noise and remains quiet most of the time but only if certain applications are running or video editing or compiling, the fan may start to rev up. The temperature when Windows 7 is operating in idle conditions is ~60C. Now regarding Ubuntu linux, immediately after booting I can see the fan running at
[09:15] <orated> higher rpm and temperature I noticed is 74C when idle. Can anyone explain me such behavior? If the system is idle in both the cases, then with one the rpm is high and for other normal. I don't see any process running in linux with high CPU usage ...
[09:16] <nnx> where is the default instal folder for ubuntus softwarecenter ?
[09:16] <dr_willis> nnx:  what?
[09:16] <dr_willis> orated:  sadly power-management is often picky, and dosent work as well under linux for various reasons.
[09:17] <szal> dr_willis: add to that the "power drain" bug since kernel 2.6.38
[09:17] <nnx> im just wondering where the default install folder is, i downloaded a program from the ubuntu softwarecenter called bpython (trying to learn to program) and i want to keybind it so its easier to pull up but i dont know where the program is install so i can bind it to a key
[09:18] <orated> dr_willis: Well, that can drastically reduce the life of processor if its not operating as it should ..
[09:18] <szal> !info bpython
[09:18] <badbandit> what - the - F#%$
[09:18] <wooter> nnx, try /usr/bin
[09:18] <badbandit> I just updated to oneiric
[09:18] <nnx> thanks ill try
[09:18] <badbandit> I can no longer detect my 2nd display
[09:18] <szal> nnx: ncurses..  that runs in the terminal anyway
[09:18] <dr_willis> 'which bpython'
[09:18] <badbandit> dont even see my nvidia settings just ubuntu display
[09:18] <dr_willis> shows where its at in your PATH
[09:18] <badbandit> which doesnt work
[09:18] <badbandit> any help?
[09:19] <szal> !enter | badbandit
[09:19] <orated> dr_willis: Should I ask in #ubuntu-kernel? I just realised they may probably help better :)
[09:19] <badbandit> szal: ok, why the hell does updating ubuntu every 6 months break my computer/
[09:19] <dr_willis> orated:  you can try i guess..
[09:19] <zaoul1> thats a feature
[09:20] <wooter> badbandit, ya learn after awhile just to fresh install, its not worth the headstress
[09:20] <badbandit> who is in charge of ubuntu/gnome UI decisions seriously?
[09:20] <dr_willis> orated:  theres some nasty power-regressions bugs out at this time. I havent paid much attention to it lately
[09:20] <dr_willis> badbandit:  gome devs for gnome...
[09:20]  * szal doubts that upgrading breaks anyone's computers, hasn't heard of upgrades causing hardware malfunctions yet
[09:21] <badbandit> they are losing my interest every update, this is BS. top left with applications - system - etc worked perfectly and made sense
[09:21] <orated> dr_willis: Could you link me to any page which gives detailed info on it?
[09:21] <badbandit> now it's changed
[09:21] <badbandit> I have no idea wtf is going on or how to find stuff
[09:21] <badbandit> this is why microsoft failed
[09:21] <dr_willis> badbandit:  what are you going on about?
[09:21] <dr_willis> badbandit:  if you want a guide on using Unity. they exist..
[09:21] <llutz> badbandit: if it "worked perfectly ", why did you upgrade?
[09:21] <dr_willis> theres also gnome0-shell guides out there for gnome shell ussage
[09:22] <badbandit> llutz: because I saw the upgrade popup 100 times and thought maybe it would offer some cool new features, not complete UI changes
[09:22] <dr_willis> unity has been around since the last release...
[09:22] <llutz> badbandit: and you are not able to read some lines about all the changes before? they wereknown since a while and heavily discussed
[09:22] <badbandit> such as windows, why are window action items (min/max/close) now dispalyed at top right of entire screen?????? wtf
[09:23] <badbandit> er top left
[09:23] <dr_willis> thats been the default for some time.
[09:23] <dr_willis> and easially changed.
[09:23] <dr_willis> !controls
[09:23] <slack-m> anyone here have a WD caviar GREEN and know about the 4k sector stuff, and the alignment? i have a question about sectors per track... i think its supposed to be 64 instead of 63, but im unsure
[09:23] <CJMiller> I don't have one
[09:23] <badbandit> dr_willis: i dont care about changing, i want to know who thought that was a good idea
[09:23] <dr_willis> badbandit:  thats not really a support question then. You can discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:24] <badbandit> with any software app, let alone an operating system, you can't move shit around like that all the time
[09:24] <dr_willis> it was discussed in many blog/forum posts a year+ ago when they did the change
[09:24] <badbandit> esp with basic things that are more or less consistent across all os's
[09:25] <dr_willis> technicaly its a theme setting now. on a per-theme basis
[09:25] <badbandit> damn i had a feeling this would be a mistake upgrading
[09:25] <nnx> i cant still get it to work, ive found the program located at \usr\bin\bpython, and ive set the global_keybindings to cntrl alt b and the keybinding_commands is set to usr\bin\bpython.py but it still doesnt pop up
[09:26] <badbandit> i love ubuntu and have used it for years but i dont want to invest a second of time in relearning it's UI
[09:26] <dr_willis> nnx:  is it a console/text/terminal app?
[09:26] <nnx> yes its a terminal ap
[09:26] <afflicto> Hello everyone! just installed ubuntu 11.10. Are there any chat clients that connects to IRC and Skype(with voice\webcam support)?
[09:26] <dr_willis> nnx:  then you need to set up a terminal to launch it.
[09:26] <CJMiller> afflicto: Xchat and Skype
[09:26] <dr_willis> nnx:  ie:  xterm -e /path/to/command
[09:26] <CJMiller> There are no third-party Skype clients
[09:26] <maffelu> Uhm, I'm installing ubuntu on a computer as we speak and all I get is a black and white garble on my screen, anyone had that?
[09:26] <badbandit> btw how do I load in classic mode now? I can't even do that
[09:26] <dr_willis> !classic
[09:26] <badbandit> at least with the last upgrade I could do that
[09:27] <dr_willis> !nounity
[09:27] <badbandit> ftw
[09:27] <badbandit> btw
[09:27] <dr_willis> Unity is the default for the foreseable future for ubuntu, and gnome is now 'gnome-shell'   gnome2 is dead..
[09:27] <badbandit> where is my restart button!?
[09:27] <auronandace> !gnome2 | badbandit
[09:27] <badbandit> only shutdown
[09:27] <badbandit> htf is there no restart option1?
[09:28] <afflicto> CJMiller ok I was looking for more like 1 software that connects to both. for easier organization of chats, tabs.. etc. I know pidgin does it.
[09:28] <badbandit> I see suspend/hibernate/shutdown
[09:28] <pdq> badbandit, click shutdown and restart option is there
[09:28] <badbandit> pdq - that is TERRIBLE fucking diesng
[09:28] <badbandit> design
[09:28] <pdq> or so i hear, i never shutdown :P
[09:28] <dr_willis> enough ranting also...
[09:29] <badbandit> how the fuck is there no restart option, do they do usability testing with normal people?
[09:29] <llutz> you don't want to ask about " usability " when using gnome
[09:30] <szal> heheh
[09:30] <badbandit> this is ridiculous
[09:30] <badbandit> something so simple
[09:30] <dr_willis> nnx:  ie:  the launcher should run a command like       xterm -e /path/to/command
[09:30] <llutz> badbandit: and pls take your rants to #ubuntu-offtopic now, you are wrong here
[09:30] <badbandit> llutz: how do i restart?
[09:30] <badbandit> llutz: why is it not obvious?
[09:30] <llutz> badbandit: i don't know/care, i'm using 10.10
[09:31] <badbandit> how do i tell what verion im using?
[09:31] <szal> neither do I, I use KDE (Kubuntu)
[09:31] <dr_willis> I belive theres various tweaks at the webupd8 blog site about those menus
[09:31] <llutz> lsb_release -a badbandit
[09:31] <badbandit> since the whole UI changed
[09:31] <badbandit> w/o command line!
[09:32] <pdq> badbandit, gnome system monitor shows version/kernel
[09:32] <badbandit> my 2nd monitor isnt detected
[09:32] <s0nee> badbandit: open terminal, enter "sudo shutdown -P now". then BOOM, youre shutting down (or "reboot" for rebooting)
[09:32] <hvn> someone familiar with stuttering cable connection in 11.10?
[09:32] <badbandit> awesome
[09:32] <dr_willis> hvn:  by cable connection you mean?
[09:32] <hvn> well when I approach normal adresses it takes minutes to reach them
[09:32] <badbandit> s0nee: pretending Im not a computer scientist - how the hell does an average user know that? restart should be in the shutdown list by default
[09:33] <nnx> thanks dr
[09:33] <s0nee> badbandit: i understand that
[09:33] <dr_willis> !brainstorm
[09:33] <hvn> does it has something to do with the ipv6 settings?
[09:33] <pdq> badbandit, user discovery, when a user doesn't see option and is forced to clik shutdown the option is discovered, like easter egg :]
[09:33] <badbandit> does anyone know how to get my monitor to be detected in oneriric?
[09:33] <dr_willis> hvn:  ive not heard much about ipv6 issues in ages.
[09:34] <badbandit> pdq: users do not like to find easter eggs for simple tasks.
[09:34] <hvn> dr_willis: I had it in 11.4 aswell
[09:34] <s0nee> badbandit: "sudo Xorg -configure" to get new xorg.conf
[09:34] <badbandit> s0nee: server already running
[09:35] <badbandit> does not detect second display when I hit "detect" in "display"
[09:35] <s0nee> badbandit: kill it. "sudo pkill X". BE SURE to backup the old xorg.conf
[09:35] <dr_willis> actually monitor config is under 'monitors' isent it?
[09:35] <badbandit> s0nee: won't that kill my monitor
[09:35] <dr_willis> I dont have any dual monitor setups at the moment.
[09:35] <caroloseaves> hello to all. I have installed windows 7 on the first partition and then I installed ubuntu 11.10 on another partition afterwards. GRUB did not install it just boots ubuntu. the ubuntu partition was extended and included some swap partitions from ubuntu 10.04
[09:35] <s0nee> badbandit: switch to a tty
[09:35] <caroloseaves> how do I get grub to work?
[09:36] <badbandit> tty?
[09:36] <s0nee> badbandit: are you running a nvidia card ?
[09:36] <badbandit> s0nee: yes, how do i get to nvidia settings/
[09:36] <dr_willis> multi monitor setup and unity and gnome-shell - is still a work in progress.
[09:36] <s0nee> badbandit: if nvidia then its simpler. run "nvidia-settings"
[09:37] <xgt001> hello....i installed oss video drivers removing fglrx updates ... I am getting just the wallpaper when I select unity or unity 2d help please
[09:37] <dc5ala> caroloseaves, when it boots Ubuntu then grub is working, no?
[09:38] <badbandit> s0nee: thanks, got 2nd monitor up with nvidia-settings...
[09:38] <s0nee> badbandit: no problem
[09:38] <s0nee> xgt001: what do you mean by "just the wallpaper" ?
[09:38] <dr_willis> badbandit:  it may not work 100% correct untill you save the xorg.conf and restart the X server.. apps running befor you applied the cnages - can get confsed
[09:38] <caroloseaves> there is no menu.lst under boot/grub
[09:39] <dr_willis> caroloseaves:  grub2 dosent use a menu.lst -
[09:39] <dc5ala> caroloseaves, you have now grub2
[09:39] <xgt001> s0nee: I mean only wallpaper after I login from lightdm... if I select gnome fallback it works, but I have installed the radeon driver :(
[09:39] <dr_willis> caroloseaves:  you edit the /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/ files as needed
[09:39] <caroloseaves> dr_willis explain
[09:39] <dr_willis> !grub2 | caroloseaves
[09:40] <s0nee> xgt001: did you reconfigure the xorg.conf ?
[09:40] <dc5ala> caroloseaves, when you do not see grub at boot you may try holding shift key
[09:40] <dr_willis> grub2 auto hide setting is in /etc/default/grub - i always set it to always show.
[09:41] <caroloseaves> dc5ala I don't  it at all the monitor says "out of range" and then goes blank and then boots ubunt
[09:41] <caroloseaves> let me check that dr_willis
[09:42] <dr_willis> caroloseaves:  theres settings in /etc/default/grub for the res of the grub menu screen also.. it may be its trying a res your  monitor cant handle.
[09:42] <dr_willis> i always set it to use the simple text menu
[09:42] <innovate> Hello, i need some help configuring security on my ubuntu 10.04 servers. Because of the risk locking myself out i need some directions in changing port 22 ssh access, and disabling the root user
[09:42] <dr_willis> # Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only)
[09:42] <dr_willis> #GRUB_TERMINAL=console
[09:42] <dr_willis> I perfer to disable the grahical terinal :)
[09:43] <dr_willis> You can make it beep, or play a tune also. :) last lines in /etc/default/grub
[09:44] <dc5ala> caroloseaves, had that problem on another machine too, see dr_willis infos :)
[09:45] <dc5ala> caroloseaves, and read the top lines in that file too, is bit different than what you are used to
[09:45] <dr_willis> super mario grub init tune...  http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/8275/grub2-set-super-mario-as-startup-tune
[09:46] <jakes> gues when i am install software with software center one error will be diplay like "Requires installation of untrusted packages"
[09:46] <caroloseaves> dr_willis I set #timeout=0 to #timeout=25 and #hidden-timeout-etc=false
[09:46] <Ronnie> is there a good commandline program to replace x by y in a groep of files?
[09:46] <jakes> why this happen
[09:47] <dr_willis> Ronnie:  replace a  the text of 'foo' by 'bar' you mean?
[09:47] <jakes> The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.
[09:47] <Ronnie> dr_willis: yes
[09:47] <dr_willis> jakes:  i noticed that also today.. keys may have changed or somthing else going on.
[09:47] <jakes> what??
[09:47] <caroloseaves> dr_willis #grubterminal=console that is correct.
[09:47] <dr_willis> Ronnie:  awk/sed, i recall a 'gres' script command ages ago
[09:47] <dr_willis> caroloseaves:  you uncomment it.... remove the #
[09:48] <dr_willis> GRUB_TERMINAL=console
[09:48] <s0nee> innovate: edit the configuration file /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[09:48] <mrbrdomac> hey guys I have a problem with mysql not auto-starting at boot. i tried update-rc.d mysql defaults but it's still not starting at boot
[09:48] <caroloseaves> cool!!
[09:48] <mrbrdomac> even though the files are present in /etc/rc0.d/K20mysql
[09:48] <mrbrdomac> etc
[09:48] <caroloseaves> how about the timeouts?
[09:50] <dc5ala> mrbrdomac, does it start manually?
[09:50] <s0nee> mrbrdomac: hmm ubuntu now uses upstart so the traditional method using /etc/rcX.d does not work any more
[09:51] <s0nee> mrbrdomac: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[09:52] <dr_willis> the rc# stuff is sort of grandfathered in . by upstart scripts i belive.. but its best to learn how upstart works
[09:52] <dr_willis> its possible mysql is starting, then exiting. if networking is not up
[09:52] <xgt001> i am not able to start unity 3d .... i removed ati fglrx driver and installed radeon driver please help
[09:54] <`Abhijit> bbiab.
[09:55] <s0nee> xgt001: run "lspci | grep VGA" then post the output
[09:55] <xgt001> s0nee, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Robson CE [AMD Radeon HD 6300 Series]
[09:56] <caroloseaves> dr_willis it did not work. I went to terminal. went to etc/default/ typed sudo gedit grub. uncommented #GRUB_TERMINAL=console. rebooted still no grub menu
[09:56] <dr_willis> caroloseaves:  you did rerun 'sudo update-grub' like the grub2 docs/guides always mention?
[09:56] <s0nee> xgt001: ok. now are you in graphical mode ?
[09:56] <caroloseaves> haha sorry
[09:56] <mrbrdomac> s0nee: hm this could be a problem
[09:56] <xgt001> s0nee, i am in unity 2d
[09:56] <buharin> how to edit panel with battery etc. ?
[09:56] <mrbrdomac> s0nee: i am on VPS and i think there are problems with upstart and VPS
[09:57] <mrbrdomac> dc5ala: yes it starts manually just fine
[09:57] <dr_willis> buharin:  i think you can alt or control right click on them..
[09:57] <dr_willis> or was it alt-ctrl-rightclick
[09:57] <s0nee> xgt001: run "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" then look for lines that start with "Driver"
[09:57] <Afflicto> Hey all, I'm having problems. I can't play any music in Banshee. nothing happens when I doubleclick tracks :(
[09:57] <mrbrdomac> s0nee: is there a way to make it start with init.d instead of upstart?
[09:57] <mrbrdomac> s0nee: although apache starts fine tho
[09:57] <dr_willis> Afflicto:  i couldent get banshee to play anything at all the other day..
[09:57] <buharin> dr_willis, nothing from this
[09:58] <s0nee> mrbrdomac: i doubt that. what about writing a script that run "service mysql start" at bootup ?
[09:58] <ifvoid_> doesn anyone know which script mounts /run ?
[09:58] <mrbrdomac> s0nee: i can try
[09:58] <xgt001> s0nee, err...i opened it its all blank... i have the fglrx backup xorg.conf.... could it be of any use?
[09:58] <mrbrdomac> s0nee: do i put it in default?
[09:58] <ifvoid_> I want to reduce its size, but cant' find where is is mounted
[09:58] <dr_willis> buharin:  i recall seeing some info on tweaking the gnome classic panels at webupd8 blog site. I dont use the classic/failsafge stuff.. they sort of stink.
[09:58] <llutz> mrbrdomac: upstart should run the old rcX.d-scripts by default. check if the startscript isn't run or mysql fails to start
[09:59] <mang0> Is there a way I can get that sort of thing on my ubuntu desktop? Gnome, 11.04... http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/ycj3k2xm/Selection_001.png
[09:59] <mrbrdomac> llutz: how can i check if its ran
[09:59] <s0nee> xgt001: hmm then use the old one. look for the line "Driver <your old driver>" and replace it with "Driver <your new driver>"
[09:59] <llutz> mrbrdomac: add a line like "date >/tmp/mysql.run" and check
[09:59] <dr_willis> Hmm. neat info on /run --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/57297/why-has-var-run-been-migrated-to-run
[10:00] <ugur> hello. how can i change location of unity panel ?
[10:00] <llutz> mrbrdomac: check mysql-logs or daemon.log for errors related to mysql
[10:00] <xgt001> s0nee, hmmm thanks... anyone know how to make radeon driver auto generate xorg.conf file?
[10:00] <llutz> mrbrdomac: does mysql start if you call it manually? sudo service mysql start
[10:00] <caroloseaves> eureka dr_willis my boys thank you now they can play on windows
[10:01] <s0nee> xgt001: run "sudo Xorg -configure" to generate a new xorg.conf file
[10:01] <mrbrdomac> s0nee: adding an init script that starts mysql worked
[10:01] <dr_willis> caroloseaves:  you could set windows to be the default if you wanted
[10:01] <s0nee> xgt001: then replace it with the current one
[10:01] <mrbrdomac> llutz: yes it starts normally
[10:01] <alesan> hi; I have a sd card that is formatted as NTFS
[10:01] <mrbrdomac> llutz: i just added an init script that just starts mysql and added it to rc.d and it works now
[10:01] <alesan> I have a SD reader... how do I mount it? from the command line if possible
[10:01] <mrbrdomac> dat upstart is a piece of crap
[10:01] <s0nee> mrbrdomac: cool.
[10:01] <caroloseaves> dr_willis in the grub file?
[10:02] <mrbrdomac> i have only problems with upstart
[10:02] <caroloseaves> ok I will read the manual for that
[10:02] <xgt001> s0nee, i get this error Server is already active for display 0 .... should i do it in tty?
[10:02] <caroloseaves> you solved my problem now
[10:02] <s0nee> xgt001: switch to a tty then run "sudo pkill X" to stop X server. then run xorg -configure again
[10:02] <llutz> mrbrdomac: you have to get used to it, if you use *buntu. let's hope they will omprove documentation and tools
[10:03] <prophet> hi guys, is there any grub/multibooting expert in here? i'm trying to solve a problem that is not involving ubuntu but it's a linux-generic one
[10:03] <mrbrdomac> llutz: its not stable
[10:03] <RocketJoe> will bad things happen if I skip install of language packs during Ubuntu install ?
[10:03] <mrbrdomac> llutz: it seems to have hardcore issues with virtualization
[10:03] <Jordan_U> prophet: This is #ubuntu. For general grub support try #grub. For general Linux support try ##linux.
[10:03] <s0nee> prophet: check your grub configuration file /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[10:03] <mrbrdomac> llutz: cause ever since i got that upstart on my VPS ive been having loads of problems
[10:04] <mrbrdomac> anyway thanks, cu later
[10:04] <llutz> mrbrdomac: i don#t care, i only use it on my netbook. on all other systems i prefer debian
[10:05] <dr_willis> alesan:  sudo ntfs-3g /dev/THEdevicename /media/MakeaMountpoint
[10:05] <prophet> thanks s0nee, i will try that. Jordan_U ok, thanks
[10:05] <Jordan_U> prophet: You're welcome.
[10:06] <llutz> RocketJoe: no, you can/should install at least the one for your native language later. it might give warnings about locale setting
[10:06] <dr_willis> given how long upstart has been in use..  many people havent even noticed it has been changed from the sysv system. :)
[10:06] <s0nee> dr_willis: since 2006
[10:07] <alesan> dr_willis, it says it does not have valid NTFS; but the camcorder can see it and I can play videos out of it...
[10:07] <dr_willis> im suprised the sysv stuff hasent been totally removed yet. but guess its around for a reason
[10:07] <llutz> dr_willis: most users don't have to deal with personal start-/stop-scripts
[10:07] <dr_willis> alesan:  whats the exact command yu are using?
[10:08] <alesan> sudo ntfs-3g /dev/mmcblk0 /mnt/
[10:08] <alesan> sudo ntfs-3g /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt/
[10:08] <alesan> for both it says:
[10:08] <dr_willis> alesan:  what does fdisk -l say agbout it?
[10:08] <alesan> NTFS signature is missing.
[10:08] <alesan> Failed to mount '/dev/mmcblk0': Invalid argument
[10:08] <alesan> The device '/dev/mmcblk0' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS.
[10:08] <llutz> dr_willis: sysV would have been dropped if debian would have desided to use upstart too, i guess
[10:08] <alesan> /dev/mmcblk0p1               2       26683    63073280    7  HPFS/NTFS
[10:09] <alesan> dr_willis, ^^^ that was the relevant output of fdisk
[10:11] <s0nee> alesan: what about "sudo mkdir /media/mmc && sudo mount /dev/mmcblk0 /media/mmc"
[10:11] <dr_willis> alesan:  ive had laptops that for some reason couldent read the sdcards.. but that one seems to be seen correctly. I got no other ideas.
[10:12] <alesan> dr_willis, other SD cards work perfectly
[10:13] <alesan> for example I even use it to fsck cards with ext3 used by embedded boards etc
[10:13] <alesan> but this one... with NTFS...
[10:14] <erisuco> hi
[10:14] <s0nee> erisuco: hi
[10:14] <alesan> s0nee, it asks to specify the fs type
[10:16] <newhoa> Does anyone have any idea why when I try to chat in #Inkscape all I get is: Cannot send to channel
[10:16] <s0nee> alesan: then add option "-t <fs type>" to mount. "man mount" for the list of fs
[10:16] <alesan> yeah ok
[10:17] <_trine> newhoa, you probably need to have a registered nick and be identified
[10:17] <Jordan_U> alesan: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid"?
[10:17] <s0nee> alesan: if its ntfs then try "mount -t ntfs /dev/mmcblk0 /media/mmc"
[10:17] <newhoa> It doesn't give any information on that... and I'm not sure how to do it!
[10:18] <alesan> Jordan_U, it does not read anything from the SD card maybe I need some option?
[10:18] <antoinethewiz1> @newhoa http://wiki.freeculture.org/IRC_with_Pidgin
[10:19] <alesan> s0nee, the device "X" doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS. X is /dev/mmcblk0 or /dev/mmcblk0p1
[10:20] <s0nee> alesan: hmm then try both. if its not ntfs then look in "man mount" for different file systems
[10:20] <alesan> Jordan_U, if I do blkid /dev/mmcblk0 it does not print anything.
[10:20] <alesan> I tried both, I just told you
[10:20] <Jordan_U> alesan: Can you please pastebin the output of "sudo blkid" and "sudo parted -l"? (even if neither mentions mmvcblk0)
[10:21] <s0nee> alesan: then try different FS's if its not ntfs
[10:21] <dr_willis> actually wouldent it be -t ntfs-3g ?
[10:21] <laptopik> hi all
[10:21] <dr_willis> could be its vfat and getting miss-reported
[10:22] <laptopik> hi
[10:22] <antoinethewiz1> Hello laptopik
[10:22] <laptopik> first time here
[10:22] <s0nee> dr_willis: in the man page its ntfs
[10:23] <alesan> http://pastebin.com/T1krmyJy
[10:23] <alesan> Jordan_U, ^^^
[10:23] <dr_willis> s0nee:  ntfs-3g is not the same as 'ntfs'  :)
[10:23] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[10:23] <alesan> dr_willis, I tried forcing it to vfat but it's not work
[10:23] <dr_willis> ntfs is the read only fs.
[10:23] <laptopik> exit
[10:23] <s0nee> dr_willis: 3g is a driver and ntfs is a type :)
[10:23] <dr_willis> alesan:  im out of ideas then.
[10:24] <krasnozer> when i log in with unity all i get is an empty screen with the nautilus menu on top, how do i fix it ?
[10:24] <dr_willis> unless its some weird variant of ntfs/vfat
[10:24] <alesan> I will have to see if this card can be read on a regular computer
[10:25] <Halabund> Hi all!  I'd like to experiment with a web server, and setting up WordPress, on Ubuntu (novice).  But first things first: how can I make sure that it's only accessible from my own computer and not from any other computers? (for safety, until I actually manage to learn how these things work)
[10:25] <Afflicto> I just installed ubuntu 11.10. Why do windows lag like hell whenever I drag them? (I have installed ATI properitary drivers)
[10:25] <Halabund> Any help will be most appreciated
[10:26] <Jordan_U> alesan: I need the output of "sudo blkid" not "sudo blkid /dev/mmcblk0".
[10:26] <alesan> Jordan_U, that only has info about my first hard disk
[10:26] <s0nee> Halabund: how do you access your server ? ssh ?
[10:26] <alesan> ait a sec Jordan_U that I pastebin it
[10:27] <alesan> even if it's only 3 lines...
[10:27] <alesan> http://pastebin.com/VD0BekEj Jordan_U
[10:27] <Jordan_U> alesan: Can any other OS mount this filesystem?
[10:27] <alesan> Jordan_U, the camcorder one can...
[10:27] <alesan> I can record and playback videos.
[10:27] <Halabund> s0nee, I'm sitting in front of it.  I don't actually want to use this computer as a server.  I just want to learn how these things work, playing around a bit. And I'd like to make sure others can't access it as a webserver, to feel safe
[10:28] <alesan> I have not tried on another computer if that if what you mean
[10:28] <Jordan_U> alesan: Why do you think it's an ntfs filesystem?
[10:28] <drake01> Afflicto, open ccsm->openGL->uncheck SyncToVBlank...
[10:28] <newhoa> _trine, Thanks for that. It says I need a key to change password... not sure how to get this.
[10:29] <Afflicto> drake01: oh.. what's that? Vertical Sync?
[10:29] <antoinethewiz1> Halabund, just set up a localhost server.
[10:29] <alesan> Jordan_U, I do not think anything, I just followed instructions here on the channel. In any case, the output of fdisk -l includes:
[10:29] <s0nee> Halabund: it should be secure enough without any extra configuration
[10:29] <alesan> /dev/mmcblk0p1               2       26683    63073280    7  HPFS/NTFS
[10:29] <Halabund> s0nee, I still don't want anyone to access it.  I don't want anyone to see the site.
[10:29] <s0nee> alesan: hpfs is supported
[10:29] <pie_> my wiereless connection is losing all throughput after a few minutes(time varies wildly) after boot, i am still connected but i cant ping he router or anything
[10:29] <Jordan_U> alesan: Fdisk only knows what partition type was listed in the partition table, which isn't really worth much.
[10:29] <pie_> *wireless
[10:29] <Halabund> antoinethewiz1, how would I do that?
[10:29] <drake01> Afflicto, Not really.. First Let me know if it helps u..
[10:29] <s0nee> alesan: try "mount -t hpfs"
[10:30] <alesan> Jordan_U, how can I know for sure?
[10:30] <Halabund> antoinethewiz1, I installed apache.  Now typing 127.0.0.1 in the address bar gives me a page.  I don't want any other computers to be abelt oa access this page.
[10:30] <oCean> Halabund: do you have 2 separate machines? 1 is the webserver and 1 is your computer? Is the webserver connected to internet?
[10:30] <antoinethewiz1> 127.0.0.1 is localh
[10:30] <pie_> Halabund, can you access it with your internal ip?
[10:30] <antoinethewiz1> localhost*
[10:31] <Halabund> oCean, it's only my computer is it's connected to the internet.  I don't want any other computers to be able to access this one as a webserver.
[10:31] <pie_> also if the port isnt forwarded it shouldnt be a problem afaik
[10:31] <s0nee> Halabund: as long as the port is not forwarded, the computer shouldnt be accessible
[10:31] <pie_> oh wait you probably dont have a router nvm
[10:31] <newhoa> _trine, nm... got it! Thanks!
[10:31] <antoinethewiz1> Halabund, check your IP by enterting the command /sbin/ifconfig
[10:31] <oCean> Halabund: you can limit access by adding "Order Allow,Deny" lines in your vhost configuration.
[10:32] <dr_willis> the http configs can also allow connections from spefific ips only.. in your case it could be 127.0.0.1
[10:32] <oCean> Halabund: your vhost configuration is in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[10:32] <antoinethewiz1> Then enter that IP in the address bar
[10:32] <antoinethewiz1> if nothing comes up, then only you can see your page
[10:32] <s0nee> alesan: does "mount -t hpfs" work ?
[10:32] <Jordan_U> alesan: Try using it on another computer / OS. My guess is that the card is using a format proprietary to the camera, or possibly ExFAT. If it's the latter then there is experimental support available for Linux.
[10:33] <pie_> My wireless connection is losing all throughput after a few minutes(time varies wildly) after boot, I am still "connected" but I can't ping the router or anything. After rebooting it works fine again, any ideas whats happening?
[10:33] <Jordan_U> s0nee: I would be very surprised if it were hpfs. hpfs and ntfs just happen to share the same identifier in msdos partition tables.
[10:33] <Halabund> antoinethewiz1, I get the default page ("It works!")
[10:33] <Halabund> oCean, thanks, I'll look into that
[10:33] <alesan> Jordan_U, the card was bought separately from the camcorder.
[10:34] <s0nee> Jordan_U: idk but in the manpage of "mount" theres hpfs and ntfs
[10:34] <oCean> Halabund: there are many examples online. I can give you one: http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/133913/171/ (search for "allow from" on this site)
[10:34] <alesan> s0nee, out of desperation I tried hpfs but it did not work, same message as -t ntfs
[10:34] <dr_willis> -t auto   :)
[10:35] <Jordan_U> alesan: Try it on another OS, if that OS can mount it then check what filesystem that OS says it is.
[10:35] <antoinethewiz1> Alright, so it's public then... so you need open up the http.conf file in the Apache dir
[10:35] <alesan> problem is that on another computer I have... there is not SD card reader
[10:35] <Halabund> oCean, thanks!  I know it's a basic question, but I'm very new to this, just learning now
[10:35] <antoinethewiz1> look for "ServerName" and put "127.0.0.1" after it
[10:36] <antoinethewiz1> So that it looks like ServerName: 127.0.0.1
[10:36] <oCean> antoinethewiz1: that does not limit the access to that site
[10:36] <Semtex> Hey guys, I'm using firefox 7.0.1 on a 64bit version of ubuntu 11.10 and keep getting lag. Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[10:36] <cntrational> can you guys recommend me a terminal that supports both Arabic and Devanagari?
[10:36] <Semtex> its not network related btw
[10:36] <antoinethewiz1> then look for DNS
[10:36] <oCean> antoinethewiz1: I already told Halabund he has to use allow from/deny options in vhost
[10:36] <antoinethewiz1> and set that to 127.0.0.1
[10:36] <s0nee> alesan: then i suggest trying every file system listed in mount's manpage ...
[10:37] <Halabund> Thanks again to everyone for the answers!
[10:37] <Afflicto> drake01 - I disabled it. No difference.
[10:39] <antoinethewiz> is my name displaying as "antoinethe​wiz" or "antoinethe​wiz1"?
[10:40] <jrib> antoinethewiz: without the 1
[10:40] <A4> Hi
[10:40] <antoinethewiz> thanks jrib
[10:40] <s0nee> A4: hello
[10:41] <Slartibart> I get "Valid eCryptfs headers not found in file header region or xattr region" in kern.log when I try to resume from hibernation. I suppose it has to do with something on the /home partition, that's the only place with ecryptfs.. Resuming always fails(just stops) for me, could this be the cause? It's the last entry in log..
[10:41] <A4> how can i use wubi (the windows installer for ubuntu) to install ubuntu 10.04 instad of 11.10?
[10:42] <s0nee> A4: are you downgrading or doing a clean install ?
[10:42] <A4> clean
[10:42] <dr_willis> wubi can be a pain. :) you sure you want wubi.
[10:43] <A4> i only want ubuntu 10.4 :)
[10:43] <dr_willis> you cant do a normal install? with a 10.04 cd?
[10:43] <dr_willis> actually a 10.04 cd would have wubi for 10.04 on it.
[10:44] <A4> you mean if i burn the image on a cd?
[10:44] <Jordan_U> Slartibart: Hibernation is currently not supported with an encrypted swap (which is what you have if you installed with the encrypted /home option).
[10:44] <dr_willis> you can mount iso files...  and get to the contents f you dont want to burn
[10:44] <dr_willis> or put it on a flash drive
[10:44] <dr_willis> or burn it. :)
[10:46] <A4> gues i wil try to burn if ther is no way with wubi without pain
[10:46] <Slartibart> Jordan_U: Thanks. How do I remove it? Copy all the files on /home and then reformat /home and swap with no encryptions enabled?
[10:46] <s0nee> A4: mounting is enough. you dont have to waste a cd
[10:46] <dr_willis> A4:  i gave ways other then burning.. you can get the wubi instraller from the iso file. or perhaps other locations
[10:46] <dr_willis> wubi will want the iso file anyway..
[10:47] <mang0> How do I ping a website from terminal?
[10:47] <A4> ok than i mount the image
[10:47] <dr_willis> mang0:  ping www.bubba.com
[10:47] <mang0> dr_willis: *facepalm* should've guessed it would be that simple!
[10:47] <dr_willis> :)
[10:48] <s0nee> dr_willis: whats bubba ? a variation of foobar ? (lol)
[10:50] <maffelu> Whatever I do when I boot up to isntall Ubuntu it crashes into a antwar-chessboard, anyone had this issue?
[10:51] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[10:52] <maffelu> dr_willis, but I haven't even started the installation, how can I set parameters before installation? It gives me the "Coptyright" line, shows Ubuntu and the loading sequence animation and then crashes
[10:53] <Pinchiukas> Which log contains the output of cron jobs?
[10:53] <Afflicto> So anyone else have any ideas regarding laggy window-dragging @ 11.10 ?
[10:53] <dr_willis> nomodeset is used at the very first menu..  the url gives how to get to that menu. when you see the little man=keyboard logo...
[10:53] <Afflicto> Is my name freenode?....
[10:53] <s0nee> Afflicto: no
[10:53] <dr_willis> Afflicto:  some video drivers sort of suck with unity. :()
[10:53] <maffelu> dr_willis, and then I read some more, sorry :P
[10:54] <Afflicto> s0nee damnit pidgin made a local alias then
[10:54] <oCean> Afflicto: no, freenode is the name of the network
[10:54] <Afflicto> dr_willis well can I disable unity? I don't like unity anyway.
[10:54] <dr_willis> !freenode
[10:54] <Shirakawasuna> Afflicto: yes
[10:54] <dr_willis> Afflicto:  you can use whatever you want if you install it...
[10:54] <s0nee> !nounity | Afflicto
[10:54] <phatJoe> havent tried ubuntu in a long time.. what should i pink? kde or gnome?
[10:54] <hi_tux> !ff
[10:54] <dr_willis> phatJoe:  install both and try both.. you decide..
[10:54] <zezikcz> hello, I have a little problem, I can't set up different volume of speakers and headphones - http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6092/alsamixer.png (one year old screen but it looks similar now). Sorry for my english :(
[10:54] <Shirakawasuna> Afflicto: there's lots of options besides unity. GNOME3, KDE, XFCE, LXDE, etc.
[10:55] <dr_willis> phatJoe:  then theres lxde, and xfce...
[10:55] <hi_tux> !linux
[10:55] <phatJoe> oh ok thx
[10:55] <dr_willis> lxde/lubuntu = very good for low end systems
[10:55] <Shirakawasuna> Afflicto: all of those have their own ubuntu-tweaked versions that are pretty awesome. I used xfce (xubuntu)
[10:55] <Afflicto> ok what is the default one that was before unity was implementeD?
[10:55] <oCean> hi_tux: please use the bot in private: /msg ubottu !bot
[10:55] <Shirakawasuna> Afflicto: the default was gnome 2
[10:55] <hi_tux> sorry
[10:55] <dr_willis> Afflicto:  that was gnome2 and gnome2 is basically dead. its gnome-shell now
[10:55] <Shirakawasuna> Afflicto: but gnome 2 is no longer maintained, for the most part. You might want to try gnome 3.
[10:55] <dr_willis> !gnome-shell
[10:55] <A4> ok i mounted the image but now wubi thinks it is a cd and want to start ubuntu install he want to reboot my system...but if i reebot my virtual mount image ist available for install...
[10:55] <dr_willis> !gnomeshell
[10:56] <Afflicto> ok, what about xfce? what's the difference? (I'm all about smooth, organized workflow and window management).
[10:56] <dr_willis> A4:  you copy the wubi.exe installer somewhere outside the iso. wubi.exe will want the iso file when it starts up i recall.
[10:56] <Shirakawasuna> Afflicto: they're just different in little ways. XFCE doesn't have a 3-part menu like gnome 2 did ('places' and such), it has a more start menu-type thing, etc.
[10:56] <A4> oh ok thx
[10:56] <dr_willis> Afflicto:   you  are all about vague terms. :) heh..
[10:57] <Shirakawasuna> Afflicto: You can set it up to be almost exactly the same as gnome 2
[10:57] <Shirakawasuna> with small differences
[10:57] <dr_willis> try them all.. see what you like
[10:57] <skpl> Afflicto, gnome-shell works well, and it is easy to install in 11.10
[10:58] <Afflicto> mmkaay. sudo command for that? :P
[10:58] <Shirakawasuna> Afflicto: I agree with dr_willis. Try out several.
[10:58] <Shirakawasuna> Afflicto: the... cleanest way to try them out is to install ubuntu on a virtual machine (virtualbox), but playing with your main installation is also an option :)
[10:58] <Afflicto> skpl: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell? :P
[10:58] <skpl> yeah
[10:58] <Flynsarmy> Has anyone figured out how to set nautilus to be the default ftp manager in 11.10? the old method of ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/url-handlers/ftp/%gconf.xml no longer works
[10:58] <dr_willis> abd be sure to read the various gnome-shell and unity guides.
[10:59] <jiohdi> xfce seems to have issues with sessions at times.. every single time I have used it, after about 3 or 4 boots something seems to go wrong
[10:59] <Afflicto> awesomeness guys, gonna try gnome-shell. this will install Gnome 3 or whatever, right?
[10:59] <dr_willis> theres a lot to them both thats not obvious.
[10:59] <Shirakawasuna> Afflicto: pretty much
[10:59] <dr_willis> gnome3 is allreasy on 11.10
[10:59] <dr_willis> allready
[10:59] <jiohdi> if you want the lightness and stability, then LXDE is probably better
[10:59] <Shirakawasuna> Afflicto: unity is built on top of most of gnome 3. Gnome shell is the bit that unity replaces.
[11:00] <Afflicto> So I already have gnome3? o.O
[11:00] <Flynsarmy> Afflicto: if you're on 11.10 you do
[11:00] <Afflicto> I just did terminal command and it didn't say I already have it.. if it ever says that though.
[11:00] <Shirakawasuna> Afflicto: Just as a warning, people who like gnome 2 often say they prefer xfce to unity/gnome3 shell. I recommend trying everything :)
[11:00] <Flynsarmy> Shirakawasuna: doesn't gnome-session-fallback use gnome 3?
[11:01] <Shirakawasuna> I'm not sure
[11:01] <Shirakawasuna> I've never used it :)
[11:01] <Flynsarmy> I'm using it now but not sure how I test. GEdit 3 runs and it uses gnome 3 so I figure that's what i'm on :)
[11:01] <semipro> hello... i want to install gnome shell 3.2 in ubuntu... but is there any problems with ubuntu & gnome shell?? i want to be stable
[11:01] <Boffy> it does use gnome 3. unity also uses gnome 3. however it does not use gnome shell which is the official gnome interafce
[11:01] <semipro> *ubuntu 11.10
[11:01] <dr_willis> Unity and gnome-shell are shells on TOP of gnome-3
[11:01] <s0nee> Flynsarmy: Shirakawasuna fallback to gnome 3 is like unity 2d to unity
[11:02] <dr_willis> :) layers upon layers like a cake.
[11:02] <Afflicto> what are .so files? can I install them in ubuntu 64?
[11:03] <s0nee> Flynsarmy: Shirakawasuna to gnome shell i mean
[11:03] <Flynsarmy> s0nee: you wouldn't happen to know how to set compiz to be the default window manager in gnome-session-fallback would you? I ended up moving /usr/bin/metacity and softlinking compiz *hangs head in shame*
[11:03] <rabbi1> how to restart rhythmbox
[11:04] <s0nee> Flynsarmy: no i use awesome instead ...
[11:04] <Flynsarmy> s0nee: well how did you change to awesome as default?
[11:04] <semipro> does ubuntu 11.10 has problems with gnome shell 3.2? thanks
[11:04] <skpl> semipro, no
[11:04] <s0nee> Flynsarmy: theres a method that uses gconf-tool
[11:05] <s0nee> Flynsarmy: gconf-editor
[11:05] <rabbi1> how can i restart the audio ?
[11:05] <Flynsarmy> s0nee: do you happen to know whereabouts in gconf-editor? or could point me to a tutorial
[11:05] <Halabund> Is anyone having trouble with gVim on Oneiric?  It keep freezing for me.  E.g. do touch a.html , gvim a.html, then press i, and it freezes.  I don't have a personal vimrc, using the default configuration
[11:05] <Afflicto> all audio seems to be woking fine (flash player and banshee) but skype has this wierd noise! help! :(
[11:06] <s0nee> Flynsarmy: you mean how to set default wm or a general guide ?
[11:06] <semipro> skpl: in ubuntu 11.04 i 've installed gnome shell 3.0 but one day it made an update and the whole system broke... is this scenario prossible again?
[11:06] <Flynsarmy> s0nee: setting default WM
[11:06] <hoppipolla> Hey All, anyone can help. Getting really laggy flash player on google chrome via Ubuntu 11.10 X64 using ATI VIdeo Card.
[11:06] <Shirakawasuna> Halabund: I tried your steps and no freeze
[11:06] <jrib> Halabund: try starting gvim from a terminal and look for output
[11:07] <mang0> What's a good multi client messaging service? Preferably jabber, gtalk, facebook, maybe irc (if it's good), and msn. if skype is in it, fine, but I know that skype are really stroppy about their licensing
[11:07] <mang0> all in one ^
[11:07] <s0nee> Flynsarmy: open gconf-editor then go to /desktop/gnome/session/required_components . theres an entry called "windowmanager" in there
[11:07] <dr_willis> You are not going to find one with skype i bet. :)
[11:08] <dr_willis> !im
[11:08] <slack-m> Does anyone know how to format a drive using 4k blocks?
[11:08] <Flynsarmy> s0nee: is this 11.10? /desktop/gnome has no session folder
[11:08] <jacquesdupontd> hey
[11:08] <s0nee> Flynsarmy: dont know if it still works. i use gnome shell as default then switch to awesome
[11:08] <jacquesdupontd> i'm here for the same problem i was here yesterday
[11:09] <Flynsarmy> s0nee: creating teh folders and field won't explode my system if i give it a shot?
[11:09] <jacquesdupontd> i really like gnome 3 or gnome shell , and 11.10 but i'm really sad i can't even change the backround color of some windows
[11:09] <barabaka> Hi! anyone try to setup gnome 3 on computer with ati videocards?
[11:09] <jacquesdupontd> like the synaptic or nautilus
[11:09] <rabbi1> "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart"  is not helping in restarting my audio...
[11:10] <ubuntu> hi all, I've a problem with my ubuntu, I'm on live cd at the moment, I've my 4 partition on my hard disk (windows, ubuntu, swap and home), until this morning I haven't had any problem, but now I can just reach the login window, and then I cannot enter desktop
[11:10] <s0nee> Flynsarmy: the computer wont explode but that will have no effect
[11:10] <ubuntu> what can I do?
[11:10] <jacquesdupontd> it comes from settings i had made from the previous version of ubuntu but now it applied the color settings to the new update
[11:10] <jacquesdupontd> and i would just like to reset the settings in order to get the normal ambiance theme or any other one
[11:11] <rabbi1> try Ctlr+ALT+F6 and try to login from the terminal ubuntu
[11:11] <jacquesdupontd> but when i change a theme it does the same thing , i don't know what to do
[11:11] <jacquesdupontd> i've tried gnome color changer , or gnome tweak
[11:12] <ubuntu> it's not a problem of login, because with "passwd" I reset my password, and login windows doesn't says the password is wrong, just reload itself
[11:12] <jacquesdupontd> but it didn't resolved any of those problems , i deleted my old ./themes and it does nothing else
[11:12] <jacquesdupontd> how comes we can't change settings to reset to normal windows color
[11:13] <jacquesdupontd> i've seen that this problem is a lot discussed over internet since 11.10 but none of the thread resolved my problem
[11:13] <Flynsarmy> s0nee: that's interesting. the folder ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager already exists with a %gconf.xml file in it with the correct window manager. this doesn't appear in gconf-editor though. any ideas why?
[11:13] <s0nee> Flynsarmy: sorry but idk about those stuffs
[11:14] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:14] <Halabund> jrib, it doesn't say anything in the terminal.  It does go into insert mode eventually but only after about a 10-second delay.  I tried to re-install vim completely using synaptic, and also remove all systemwide vim-addons (it was only latex-suite), but the same thing still happens
[11:14] <s0nee> ubuntu: it seems like the problem is the window manager. try clicking the gear icon then choose another session
[11:14] <jacquesdupontd> highlighting is completely bad , black on black on nautilus , and highlighting is doing the same thing , i'm sure i could do something about it , it shouldn't be so hard , i'm on ubuntu for 5 years now
[11:14] <SalahGo> Hi people! i have some problem updating my cache, a lot of ign in translations & packages!
[11:14] <jrib> Halabund: which version of vim did you install? vim-gnome, vim-gtk, etc?
[11:14] <SalahGo> is it due to the upgrade?!
[11:14] <Halabund> Shirakawasuna, it does seem strange that such a common program would have issues.  Do you have any suggestions on how to debug it?  it does go into insert mode but only after about a 10 second delay.  The window turns grey while it's frozen
[11:15] <dario_> AAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
[11:15] <Halabund> jrib, vim-gnome
[11:15] <SalahGo> i changed the update server, deactivated a lot of depots
[11:15] <SalahGo> nothing
[11:15] <ubuntu> I've tried with gnome and it's been the same, but I can log in in the guest session
[11:15] <dr_willis> jacquesdupontd:  theres ubuntu-tweak that has some 'reset settings' feature. but its in alpha for 11.10 ,
[11:15] <SalahGo> same problem, update cache fails
[11:15] <jrib> Halabund: try uninstalling that and installing vim-gtk.  See if issue persists.  This is mainly just to narrow down the problem.  We can switch back to -gnome later
[11:16] <s0nee> ubuntu: press "ctrl alt f1" then log in
[11:16] <ubuntu> I did it, the login went well, but there was a message abount mount
[11:17] <ubuntu> *about mount
[11:17] <s0nee> ubuntu: whats the msg ?
[11:17] <ha> hi, does anyone know how to figure out which of the boot processes mentioned in bootchart can be removed (and the way  to do it) so as to decrease the boot time
[11:17] <jacquesdupontd> ubuntu tweak ? i think i tried it
[11:18] <Space-Duck> Whats the cmd to launch ubuntu one?
[11:18] <SalahGo> guys, any idea? why this update cache fails?
[11:18] <jacquesdupontd> but dr_willis  it didn't changed anything , i'm running gnome 3 but whatever it does the same thing on every possible session log
[11:18] <jacquesdupontd> ubuntu , unity , 2d or 3d
[11:18] <ubuntu> something about unable to mount
[11:19] <ubuntu> I suppose it referred to home partition
[11:19] <dr_willis> jacquesdupontd:  not sure then. make a new user.. see if it affects them perhaps? try somthing way out there like installing icewm :) see if its also messed up
[11:19] <ha> any one with an answer??
[11:19] <s0nee> ubuntu: can you copy and paste it here ? {if its short)
[11:20] <jacquesdupontd> i've tried to delete all files where color changes could be set i don't have any ideas any more , i reinstalled light themes completly
[11:20] <jacquesdupontd> i don't understand it at all , and i know linux for a long time
[11:20] <dr_willis> ha:  if you dont know what ones do what.. then its. prob best to leave them alone.
[11:20] <ubuntu> I need to reboot and try again
[11:20] <dr_willis> jacquesdupontd:  if a newly made user has identical problems.. then it may be a system setting issue..
[11:21] <jacquesdupontd> you understood the problem , i had made some window color changes on the older version , but instead of reseting theme for the new 11.10 update it kept it and applied it to the new theme
[11:21] <jacquesdupontd> s
[11:22] <jacquesdupontd> i'm sure this won't change anything if i create another user
[11:22] <ubuntu> I'm going to try, thank you s0nee
[11:22] <jacquesdupontd> there are tones of thread on that subject
[11:22] <jacquesdupontd> but no really good answer
[11:23] <fertile> hello
[11:23] <jacquesdupontd> just an example of a thread that doesn't work for me
[11:23] <jacquesdupontd> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75454.html
[11:23] <fertile> hello
[11:24] <Afflicto> Ok I have installed gnome3 now - how do I switch?
[11:24] <jacquesdupontd> ok i'm going to reload lightdm
[11:24] <jacquesdupontd> Afflicto, in session login
[11:24] <Afflicto> k thanks
[11:25] <Afflicto> brb then xP
[11:25] <wonderworld> hi, i removed pulseaudio to fix sound problems. i reinstalled it, everything works now, but the sound panel applet is missing
[11:25] <jacquesdupontd> you've got a button to change the session you want to enter in , gnome , unity , unity 2d etc ..
[11:25] <wonderworld> how can i reenable it?
[11:25] <jacquesdupontd> wonderworld, wich version of ubuntu are you on ?
[11:25] <wonderworld> i reinstalled "sound-indicator" but the applet doesn't show up in the panel
[11:25] <wonderworld> 11.10
[11:25] <Afflicto> jacquesdupontd: can I do it without logging off? :P
[11:26] <jacquesdupontd> http://askubuntu.com/questions/66414/how-to-add-applets-to-unity-or-classic-gnome-panel
[11:27] <wonderworld> jacquesdupontd: no it used to be in the indicator-area (where the email icon and networking icons are) you can't customize this area this way i think
[11:27] <jacquesdupontd> Afflicto, no you have to log out of a session by closing it and then login in again with the settings you wanted by changing the session you want to go in, gnome will make you go under gnome 3 (really cool) unity for unity 3d and unity 3d
[11:27] <jacquesdupontd> 2d sorry
[11:27] <jacquesdupontd> wonderworld, i gave you an adress http://askubuntu.com/questions/66414/how-to-add-applets-to-unity-or-classic-gnome-panel
[11:27] <jacquesdupontd> tell me if it helps you
[11:28] <Space-Duck> jacquesdupontd, do you know how I can launch ubuntu one under fluxbox?
[11:28] <jacquesdupontd> hmm
[11:28] <wonderworld> jacquesdupontd: no it doesn't...(maybe because i am using xubuntu atm.) let me change my session to unity
[11:28] <s0nee> Space-Duck: ubuntuone-launch ?
[11:28] <jacquesdupontd> never tried it , couldn't tell you something good make a google search cause i don't want to tell you something stupid
[11:28] <suldrun> salut
[11:29] <jacquesdupontd> suldrun, salut c'est pour #ubuntu-fr
[11:29] <jacquesdupontd> not for  #ubuntu
[11:29] <jacquesdupontd> ok guys lemme check if i resolved my problem i come back in a sec
[11:30] <ServerTechLaptop> My Ubuntu 11.10 computer is not booting up. The unlock hard drive screen has characters which look like blocks, and does not continue thereafter. Even in recovery mode, it doesn't continue after the component loading. Any ideas?
[11:30] <Space-Duck> s0nee, thank you.
[11:30] <s0nee> Space-Duck: no problem
[11:30] <Hoppipolla> Anyone can help me with flash player x64 11 performance is terrible Sound is way laggy after video, using Oneiric X64 with ATI VIdeo Card
[11:31] <s0nee> ServerTechLaptop: unlock hdd screen ?
[11:31] <fsDNBFcx> hey
[11:31] <Must`see1> can someone help me,q me
[11:31] <ServerTechLaptop> s0nee: oh my hdd is lvm encryped, so yea.
[11:32] <BluesKaj> Hoppipolla, on websites or flash files on the desktop?
[11:32] <scx> hello
[11:32] <s0nee> ServerTechLaptop: does it reports any errors ?
[11:32] <Must`see1> NBA LOCKOUT END's,finelly,chech more info in http://www.krepsininkas.net/invite.php?invite=5450
[11:32] <ServerTechLaptop> s0nee: nope
[11:32] <scx> Could you tell me result of this command:
[11:32] <scx> grep -H -R -i pam_gnome_keyring.so /etc/pam.*
[11:33] <scx> thanks in adv.
[11:33] <Hoppipolla> BluesKaj: On websites
[11:33] <jacquesdupontd> re
[11:33] <Hoppipolla> BluesKaj: For example on haxball if you knwo  it
[11:33] <jacquesdupontd> ok i'm loosing it , this problem is out of being understable
[11:33] <s0nee> ServerTechLaptop: you just installed ubuntu or upgraded or what ?
[11:33] <jacquesdupontd> understandable
[11:34] <ServerTechLaptop> s0nee: upgraded.
[11:34] <oCean> Must`see1: don't post that here
[11:34] <wonderworld> ok. it didn't work. do you know by any chance how to run the standard unity-mixer from console?
[11:34] <BluesKaj> Hoppipolla, not familiar , got a url?
[11:34] <Afflicto> Hey
[11:34] <Hoppipolla> BluesKaj: haxball dot com
[11:34] <jacquesdupontd> i will surely see soon an update resolving the problem cause i'm really not the only one , what is the purpose of updating a distro like ubuntu and forgetting about themes settings or even changing colors of background ... really bad
[11:35] <Afflicto> Ok I enabled Gnome now, logged in. ooooo..shit that notification in the bottom center is just epic!! - however, everything is bugged.. textures, text and buttons seems completely glitched!! :(
[11:35] <ubuntu> s0nee I'm back
[11:35] <d0hj> lol
[11:36] <s0nee> ServerTechLaptop: hmm i have not used lvm encryption before so idk the steps. it hangs there ? between GRUB and boot splash ?
[11:36] <ServerTechLaptop> s0nee, yep it hangs there with a black screen. Same in recovery mode.
[11:37] <s0nee> ubuntu: ok whats the error msg ? go to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and paste it
[11:37] <ubuntu> this is the output of the login: http://paste.ubuntu.com/723164/
[11:37] <bytexcode> desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install libssl0.9.6
[11:37] <bytexcode> Reading package lists... Done
[11:37] <bytexcode> Building dependency tree
[11:37] <bytexcode> Reading state information... Done
[11:37] <bytexcode> E: Couldn't find package libssl0.9.6
[11:37] <FloodBot1> bytexcode: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:37] <s0nee> ServerTechLaptop: can you press ctrl alt f1 and log in ?
[11:38] <bytexcode> ??
[11:38] <dr_willis> !info libssl
[11:38] <dr_willis> !find libssl
[11:38] <auronandace> !paste | bytexcode
[11:39] <ServerTechLaptop> s0nee, let me try
[11:39] <bytexcode> can someone help me to install yahoo messenger in ubuntu
[11:39] <ubuntu> and whats more form the live cd  I've just checked my partitions, and the swap one is not recognized
[11:39] <auronandace> bytexcode: can't you use pidgin?
[11:39] <dr_willis> bytexcode:   You install some IM client that can do yahoo...
[11:39] <dr_willis> bytexcode:  the offical yahoomessanger for linux hasent beenupdated in years last i looked.
[11:40] <Hoppipolla> BluesKaj: So have tou tryed ? :)
[11:41] <lhrlsg_> quit
[11:42] <plouffe> to avoid accidentally brushing touchpad and relocating text cursor to mouse position: is it possible to turn off the mouse click function on the touchpad itself, so that ONLY the actual touchpad buttons can be used for mouseclicks?
[11:42] <auronandace> plouffe: yes
[11:42] <dr_willis> plouffe:  i thought i saw settings for that in the control center's touchpad tool.
[11:42] <Sir_> Hi everyone
[11:42] <dr_willis> and a disable on type option
[11:43] <wonderworld> what is the console command for the standard unity audio mixer?
[11:43] <plouffe> dr_willis, I will look
[11:43] <BluesKaj> Hoppipolla, the whole site is flash driven , meaning on my big scrn tv/monitor the fonts etc are to small to read and can't zoom m but it seems very busy ...tried other sites likr youtube ?
[11:43] <Sir_> I have problem with dial up connection ubuntu 11.10
[11:43] <plouffe> dr_willis, is there a command line option, I am on xfce, and can't find a touchpad tool
[11:43] <Hoppipolla> BluesKaj: YouTube seems to work just fine, but that HaxBall maybe needs more performance and Flash Player for Linux seems to fail totaly while Windows 7 takes everything smoothly
[11:44] <dr_willis> plouffe:  no idea  other then to try gnome-*tab* and look. it might not be on xfce.
[11:44] <dr_willis> gnome-settings, gnome-control-center   :) not sure.
[11:44] <jacquesdupontd> ok i'm here with the same problem
[11:44] <auronandace> plouffe: http://www.mydellmini.com/forum/ubuntu/20631-how-disable-tap-click-xubuntu-xfce.html
[11:45] <jacquesdupontd> black background windows on black font
[11:45] <plouffe> auronandace, thx will have a look
[11:45] <auronandace> plouffe: add it at the startup items to make it permantant
[11:45] <Caveman> join #linuxon
[11:45] <jacquesdupontd> and no possibilities of setting it or even reseting themes in 11.10 , such a shame
[11:45] <BluesKaj> Hoppipolla, is it the  default linux flash plugin or did you install a proprietary flashplayer ?
[11:45] <d0hj> does  anyone know how to get gnome2 back in 11.10
[11:45] <d0hj> ?
[11:45] <Sir_> pppd[2607]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
[11:45] <auronandace> plouffe: this is the command you want: synclient MaxTapTime=0
[11:46] <Hoppipolla> BluesKaj: I downloaded flashplayer.so from Adobe Website, but tryed default Linux FLash PLugin too, the same result
[11:46] <plouffe> auronandace, great, thx
[11:46] <jacquesdupontd> d0hj, sure you just have to choose it from the lightdm login page
[11:46] <auronandace> plouffe: no worries :)
[11:46] <Sidewinder1> !nounity | d0hj
[11:46] <jacquesdupontd> d0hj, you can choose gnome , gnome classic , unity , unity 2d and so on
[11:46] <iceroot> jacquesdupontd: there is no gnome2 anymore just gnome3 with a "theme" for gnome2
[11:47] <jacquesdupontd> iceroot, true but it does pretty much the same thing except you've got to install to panel
[11:47] <d0hj> yeah im now on 11.04 so i can get on thanks!!
[11:47] <iceroot> jacquesdupontd: yes
[11:47] <plouffe> auronandace, this seems to do the job, thanks a lot
[11:47] <jacquesdupontd> iceroot, at the same time i don't know exactly why he wants to get gnome 2 i think this is about the appearance
 thx by the way
[11:47] <ServerTechLaptop> s0nee, it says Unable to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused. Apparently I can read the unlock screen now.
[11:48] <BluesKaj> Hoppipolla, did you remove the default plugin , if not it could still be the default
[11:48] <Hoppipolla> BluesKaj: Already check, I removed it properly :)
[11:48] <d0hj> bye!
[11:48] <dr_willis> The gnome-2 fallbackmode is - well.. rather lacking in ways. :)  may have been a beter idea if they had just left it out.
[11:49] <s0nee> ServerTechLaptop: then look for the errors from there. sorry idk about lvm encryption stuffs. aks others.
[11:49] <jacquesdupontd> iceroot, hey i'm getting crazy as i really know ubuntu and linux distrib and i've got a problem that i can't sort out , my windows are black on black font in synaptic or nautilus since the update 11.10 but you can't change the background color settings, yes i installed gnome color changer and gnome tweak took , didn't changed anything i deleted everything in ./themes and erased what was in .gtk , still no changes , how
[11:49] <jacquesdupontd> does it comes ?
[11:50] <Gentoo64> jacquesdupontd: try deleting dconf
[11:50] <bytexcode> i will try to install pidgin
[11:50] <Gentoo64> dno if that helps
[11:50] <jacquesdupontd> ok a new idea great Gentoo64
[11:50] <ServerTechLaptop> s0nee, okay i can login from command line.
[11:50] <ServerTechLaptop> Now how do i start gnome from here?
[11:50] <jacquesdupontd> ok gonna try this thanks , first new idea something is giving me
[11:51] <s0nee> ServerTechLaptop: startx
[11:51] <dr_willis> jacquesdupontd:  then theres .gconf* with settings
[11:51] <Afflicto> Ok guys I restarted and logged in with GNOME but it's very glitchy.. graphics are completely retarded. looks like it's using textures from unity or something i dno. please help! :(
[11:51] <s0nee> ServerTechLaptop: also run "dmesg" to display msgs
[11:51] <Sir_> people any idea with error: pppd[2607]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
[11:51] <jacquesdupontd> i know about it , the thing is i could maybe change the colors but i would just like original themes
[11:51] <jacquesdupontd> nothing more nothing less
[11:51] <dr_willis> Afflicto:  thats a little vague. :)  gnome-shell and unity Do share a lot of the same settings.
[11:52] <BluesKaj> Hoppipolla, not much of a gamer so my flash/java experience is rather limited...dunno how else to help , sorry....maybe some gamers can
[11:53] <ServerTechLaptop> s0nee, xauth: file /home/administrator/.Xauthority does not exist. Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyxinit: giving up. xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused. xinit: server error.
[11:53] <jacquesdupontd> ok so Gentoo64 i'm gonna delete the whole directory of dconf and will be able to log again after ?
[11:53] <Hoppipolla> BluesKaj: No problem, at least you tryed. Trying to ask for help every day for three days, and only one who answered  :)
[11:53] <dr_willis> jacquesdupontd:  you could just rename it. :)
[11:53] <s0nee> ServerTechLaptop: try "sudo service lightdm start"
[11:53] <jacquesdupontd> gonna backup it yeah :)
[11:53] <dr_willis> jacquesdupontd:  or move all the dirs to some 'archived-settings' dir
[11:54] <Gentoo64> jacquesdupontd: yeah but yoll have to redo a load of settings
[11:54] <Gentoo64> jacquesdupontd: move it to dconf.backup or somehting instead of delete in case it dont sort it
[11:54] <jacquesdupontd> yes
[11:54] <dr_willis> I do so much tweaking during beta testing.. i often reset everything back to defaults by vleaning out home. :)
[11:54] <|Long|> hi, is there away to remove or re-position sidebar on 11.10?
[11:55] <Gentoo64> |Long|: i read you can put it on the bottom
[11:55] <ServerTechLaptop> s0nee, well for starters it shows a complete black screen.
[11:55] <|Long|> can you show me Gentoo64 plz?
[11:55] <Gentoo64> http://goo.gl/tDA58
[11:55] <|Long|> thanks
[11:56] <ServerTechLaptop> s0nee, yup complete black
[11:56] <ServerTechLaptop> no response at all.
[11:56] <Sir_> Gentoo64, any idea with my problem?
[11:57] <ServerTechLaptop> s0nee, returned to command line using ctrl+alt+f1
[11:57] <byteXc0d3> ok i am sukses install pidgin
[11:58] <s0nee> ServerTechLaptop: hmm then no clue. maybe run "dmesg | less" then read the log, look for errors
[11:58] <Afflicto> dr_willis: ok. The textures, colors and text on the Panel\bar at the top is completely glitchy and has "File Edit View Tools Help" text which aren't even buttons. and it's also white. and the rest of the buttons are black bars. completely bugged.
[12:00] <dr_willis> the menu items in the top bar dont show as buttons.. just text as far as i kbow.
[12:00] <ServerTechLaptop> s0nee: don't really see any
[12:00] <dr_willis> Afflicto:  install gnome-tweak and perhaps play with the themes.
[12:01] <ServerTechLaptop> s0nee, anyways thanks for trying.
[12:01] <miyagi_> Hello
[12:01] <ServerTechLaptop> Okay anyone else has ideas? xauth: file /home/administrator/.Xauthority does not exist. Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyxinit: giving up. xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused. xinit: server error.
[12:01] <maffelu> Hm, this is the second computer I've tried to install Ubunto on where I've had to read "Sorry, with your graphics card Ubuntu doesn't work". I thought the point of Ubuntu was that it worked out of the box with most hardware, I mean, Nvidia GeForce 8800 isn't a noname product!
[12:02] <tester> hello
[12:02] <prophet> damn, has apple bought canonical or the ubuntu ui guys just copy osx hoping that apple "knows what is doing". from an UI perspective the new unity is a major usability/productivity drawback
[12:02] <dr_willis> maffelu:  did you check the install 3rd party stuff, and install updates during the install? at the beginning of the install?
[12:02] <miyagi_> Need some help compiling in Ubuntu 11.10
[12:02] <Gentoo64> prophet: old news
[12:02] <tester> there a brazlian room?
[12:03] <dr_willis> I dont find unity anything like OS-X.. its more windows7ish actually.
[12:03] <Gentoo64> miyagi_: do you have biuld-essentials installed?
[12:03] <BluesKaj> !br
[12:03] <Gentoo64> build-essentials?
[12:03] <prophet> Gentoo64: old news? meaning what exactly?
[12:03] <urbanlime> hi, i 'm having an issue with my computer.. every 30 minutes or so I have to reconnect my wireless, because when loading ne w pages it gives a server cannot be found error
[12:03] <Gentoo64> prophet: unitys been out for ages
[12:03] <tester> thanks
[12:03] <maffelu> dr_willis, I never get to the install. I followed the advice at the URL you gave me, but when I changed to nomode and started the install it just freezes
[12:04] <prophet> Gentoo64: ok, i'm talking about all this buttons-on-the-left and dock-style launcher in ubuntu
[12:04] <Sidewinder1> miyagi_, Have you checked: http://goo.gl/cgeXe
[12:04] <dr_willis> maffelu:  hmm. you did check the md5sum of the cd? i have had no issues on my 3 nvidia systems here.
[12:04] <Gentoo64> prophet: yeah, gnome shell is the same. you could try kde, xfce, lxde or whatever theyre "normal"
[12:05] <Gentoo64> prophet: gnome has a fallback mode that has 2 plain panels like gnome2
[12:05] <maffelu> dr_willis, I've used Debian before and I've never had a NVidia problem earlier. The last card wasn't a NVidia card, so I accepted that it wouldn't work, but this is standard issue. I don't know how to check the md5sum of the DVD, I'll google it
[12:05] <Sidewinder1> !md5sum | maffelu
[12:06] <Sidewinder1> !hashes | maffelu
[12:06] <miyagi_> Here the problem, checking whether setvbuf arguments are reversed... no
[12:06] <miyagi_> checking for non-blocking type... posix
[12:06] <miyagi_> checking for a list of signal names... yes
[12:06] <miyagi_> checking whether to enable GTK support... no
[12:06] <miyagi_> checking whether to enable Win32 GUI support... no
[12:06] <miyagi_> checking whether to enable OS/2 PM support... no
[12:06] <FloodBot1> miyagi_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:07] <jpmh> I installed sshpass and it seems to be ok - however, when I do: sshpass -p=password ssh name@myserver.com - it just seems to hang
[12:07] <dr_willis> !info sshpass
[12:07] <Sidewinder1> !pastebinit > miyagi_
[12:07] <Gentoo64> miyagi_: what are you trying to compile btw?
[12:07] <dr_willis> why not set up keys so you dont need to give a password?
[12:08] <prophet> Gentoo64: normal is when you do what you need to do in the fastest way
[12:08] <urbanlime> hi, i 'm having an issue with my computer.. every 30 minutes or so I have to reconnect my wireless, because when loading ne w pages it gives a server cannot be found error
[12:08] <jpmh> ubottu: I know what it is - so why is it not working
[12:08] <buharin> how to fully remove fglrx? I tried smth but it won't work
[12:08] <miyagi_> sorry , BitchX  but it's not specific to that .
[12:08] <urbanlime> is there any way I can fix it?
[12:08] <Gentoo64> prophet: yeah.. if you like using the mouse try openbox maybe its very fast. you just right click for a custom list of programs to open
[12:09] <Gentoo64> prophet: having to click panels then the programs is 10x slower
[12:10] <sly> I used to love using openbox and tint2
[12:10] <Gentoo64> i do prefer lxpanel but im using tint2 atm
[12:10] <prophet> having buttons on the left is normal when the taskbar is up but then again, this is anti-usability. i guess ubuntu is making its users to stay foolish
[12:10] <prophet> do one thing, don't multitask
[12:10] <prophet> anyway
[12:11] <Gentoo64> prophet: theyre all going the same way
[12:11] <sly> Infact
[12:11]  * sly runs off to install openbox
[12:12] <prophet> Gentoo64: all but windows
[12:12] <miyagi_> sorry, BitchX  not specific to that though.
[12:12] <maffelu> dr_willis, this was my md5sum: c396dd0f97bd122691bdb92d7e68fde5 *ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso, so it's listed at least
[12:12] <Gentoo64> miyagi_: isnt bitchx not maintained any more?
[12:13] <prophet> Gentoo64: open box looks good
[12:13] <Gentoo64> prophet: try it
[12:13] <hrolf> Anyone knows if installing Windows will mess up with grub (and probably mess with Ubuntu)?
[12:13] <Gentoo64> hrolf: yes
[12:13] <Gentoo64> youll need to redo grub
[12:13] <Gentoo64> to overwrite the windows loader
[12:14] <miyagi_> ya, it is but the problem is with any proggy i try to compile
[12:14] <hrolf> Gentoo64: Then, it'll pickup Ubuntu or do I have to add an entry manually for it?
[12:14] <MrElendig> hrolf: just reinstall grub to mbr after you are done
[12:14] <Gentoo64> hrolf: should pick up windows
[12:14] <cruxx> hallo zusammen
[12:14] <hrolf> Gentoo64: What about the existing Ubuntu?
[12:14] <hrolf> Will it get picked up too?
[12:14] <Gentoo64> hrolf: itll just boot it, youll get a choice
[12:14] <hrolf> Gentoo64: Perfect.
[12:15] <ssbpls> i want to ask to a question:when i want to use the tftp service,i install the tftp tftpd and xinetd, and i also configure the /etc/xinet.d/tftp,but the tftp does't start.why? I am using the Ubuntu 10.10
[12:15] <hrolf> Gentoo64: How can I check what version of grub do I have right now (without rebooting) ?
[12:15] <prophet> Gentoo64: right now i preffer linux mint but it have its problems (specially when installing in a multiboot pc - osx + win7). does ubuntu install allows puting grub on the / partition?
[12:15] <ssbpls> I also restart the xinetd : /etc/init.d/xinetd restart
[12:15] <Gentoo64> hrolf: what ubuntu is it?
[12:15] <hrolf> Gentoo64: Is it installed in my Ubuntu partition?
[12:15] <cruxx> hat jemand eine idee, woran es liegen kann, dass meine grfische oberfläche von ubuntu nicht mher startet? es kommt immer noch ubuntu... und dann wird das bils weiß bzw. lößt sich auF1
[12:15] <hrolf> Gentoo64: I'm on 11.10
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> !ge| cruxx
[12:16] <Gentoo64> prophet: no it has to be on the disk itself at the very first bit
[12:16] <theadmin> !de | cruxx
[12:16] <Gentoo64> hrolf: grub2
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> oops
[12:16] <cruxx> join #ubuntu-de
[12:16] <theadmin> cruxx: Sie haben einen
[12:16] <theadmin> cruxx: Sie haben einen "/" vergessen :P
[12:16] <prophet> Gentoo64: it's not mandatory, it can be on the root partition when having another bootloader
[12:16] <Sidewinder1> hrolf, This should help immensely: http://goo.gl/DIoMX
[12:17] <Sir_> join #ubuntu-ru
[12:17] <theadmin> Sir_: Не забывайте "/".
[12:17] <Gentoo64> prophet: you cant put grun on / partition
[12:18] <Gentoo64> prophet: i think grub2 can boot osx
[12:18] <theadmin> Gentoo64: You can, if you have another bootloader for your MBR
[12:18] <ssbpls> who can solve my problem?
[12:18] <Sir_> theadmin: да заметил спасибо
[12:18] <tomodachi> Gentoo64: prophet  yes it can
[12:18] <Gentoo64> but cant grub2 boot osx?
[12:18] <theadmin> Gentoo64: It can
[12:18] <Gentoo64> he might as well put in on /sda
[12:18] <Gentoo64> and boot al 3
[12:19] <tomodachi> Gentoo64: prophet it didnt work for me though. I use refit to boot my operatingsystems
[12:19] <miyagi_> Here's the problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/723203/
[12:21] <rikutake> i want to make a script to run after a fresh install to remove and install some packages
[12:22] <rikutake> id like for it to require entering sudo password just once and not require me to answer yes and no to questinos
[12:22] <hrolf> It might be a silly question, but how can I check where is grub installed?
[12:22] <bluenemo> rikutake, thats quite simpel. use -y with apt-get and when the script starts, let it start with sudo su
[12:23] <llutz_> "sudo -i" don't use sudo su
[12:23] <Sidewinder1> Indeed.
[12:23] <rikutake> bluenemo: not all the packages require sudo
[12:23] <||arifaX> miyagi_: try sudo apt-get install libncurses-dev maybe helps, saw that via google
[12:23] <bluenemo> security risk?
[12:23] <theadmin> bluenemo: What (s)he said, never use "sudo su"
[12:23] <rikutake> so it would be better if each line that requires it had it
[12:23] <bluenemo> ah ok why? didnt know that. been using it myself for some time now
[12:23] <dr_willis> rikutake:  thats how ive normally seen it done.
[12:23] <llutz_> bluenemo: it "might" have sideeffects, sudo -i   works correct and sets envoronment as expected.
[12:24] <bluenemo> ah ok thank you
[12:24] <llutz_> theadmin: still "he"
[12:24] <dr_willis> rikutake:  if the script takes a Long time.  the sudo timeout might kick in also..
[12:24] <theadmin> llutz_: Sorry, I do forget sometimes
[12:24] <rikutake> what is the best way to force install a package without requiring the user to answer yes to any questions?
[12:24] <bluenemo> apt-get -y install
[12:24] <theadmin> llutz_: Hard to keep people in head when you don't talk to them often, sorry, no offense meant
[12:24] <llutz_> at least last time i checked... theadmin
[12:24] <llutz_> theadmin: no worries
[12:24] <rikutake> oh i see, so e.g. sudo apt-get -y install <package>
[12:25] <rikutake> ?
[12:25] <bluenemo> yes rikutake
[12:25] <llutz_> hrolf: afaik you can't
[12:25] <dr_willis> of course if the package asks some question as part of its install.. it may still want some info.
[12:25] <bluenemo> or ... install <package> <package> ... if you have several
[12:25] <rikutake> aaah cool
[12:25] <rikutake> thanks
[12:26] <dr_willis> like if you install gdm, it may ask what xdm to use.
[12:26] <Morfeus^> Hello all !
[12:26] <bluenemo> same for apt-get -y purge
[12:26] <bluenemo> but be careful with -y and read the man ;)
[12:26] <rikutake> maybe using the -y option isnt so good after all then?
[12:26] <rikutake> lol
[12:26] <bluenemo> dr_willis, i thought -y would skip all those questions with default values?
[12:26] <neuronlunch> hi, does anyone know how to get mutitouch working on oneiric with macbook pro series?
[12:26] <bluenemo> well depends on what you want to do rikutake
[12:27] <rikutake> what about e.g. mysql? what happens if you run that with -y
[12:27] <hrolf> llutz_: I have two partitions, on one is Windows XP and on another I have Ubuntu. So on which partition does grub reside? (I installed Ubuntu after XP)
[12:27] <rikutake> it still asks yuo for options such as root password etc
[12:27] <bluenemo> well yeah, would be hard to install without those questions yes
[12:27] <llutz_> hrolf: the grub-files are on your /-fs, grub was most likely written into MBR
[12:28] <dr_willis> bluenemo:  not sure.. ive never really tried..
[12:28] <bluenemo> i thought it would do that stuff.. but i'm not sure for every packet either :)
[12:29] <bluenemo> dr_willis, --assume-yes
[12:29] <bluenemo>            Automatic yes to prompts; assume "yes" as answer to all prompts
[12:29] <bluenemo>            and run non-interactively. If an undesirable situation, such as
[12:29] <bluenemo>            changing a held package, trying to install a unauthenticated
[12:29] <bluenemo>            package or removing an essential package occurs then apt-get
[12:29] <bluenemo>            will abort. Configuration Item: APT::Get::Assume-Yes.
[12:29] <FloodBot1> bluenemo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:30] <bluenemo> sorry guys, reflex..
[12:30] <[Sanyi]> AHAHHA not relax? :P
[12:30] <bluenemo> lol :)
[12:31] <neuronlunch> has anyone had any sucess with compiling hid-dkms in oneiric?
[12:32] <pudger> could someone help me out
[12:32] <neuronlunch> whats up pudger?
[12:32] <bluenemo> pudger, !ask
[12:32] <bluenemo> or so.. :)
[12:32] <bluenemo> !ask
[12:32] <pudger> !ask how do I get the data between the quotes in this program http://pastebin.com/ybh6Zn91  I tried using quote and quote2 with subtraction to do find_first_of and find_last_of
[12:33] <hrolf> Is there any chance I get edit/remove my MBR when I'm partitioning my disk? (I'm assuming that the MBR needs to be on a partition)
[12:33] <hrolf> like with gparted
[12:34] <bluenemo> hrolf, no, mbr is first 512 byte on your hdd
[12:34] <bluenemo> not in a partition..
[12:34] <bluenemo> to be exact, the mbr defines your partitions :)
[12:34] <Migi32> if a process in your terminal intercepts Ctrl-C and doesn't shut down properly, is there a way to force kill it?
[12:34] <hrolf> bluenemo: I see.
[12:34] <bluenemo> kill -9 "pidof name"
[12:34] <genupulas> I have a 512Kbps new connection.When i am doing browsing anything with my two browsers(F,GC) its not doing fast and sometimes try again or reload warning messages but when i put download anything its good giving me a rate of 60KB/S , but browsing not good . if its a connection problem then both things not sounds good but download is good enough to me but why browsing have problem , please help me friends my OS is Ubuntu 11.10
[12:34] <Migi32> bluenemo, in another terminal then?
[12:35] <bluenemo> yes
[12:35] <Migi32> ok
[12:35] <llutz_> Migi32: pkill -9 part-of-processname
[12:35] <bluenemo> ps aux | grep -i firefox && kill -9 12345
[12:35] <theadmin> Weird idea, "killall -9 firefox" is simplier
[12:36] <miyagi_>  ||arifaX: Thanx, it worked
[12:36] <Migi32> lol. Assuming firefox is the frozen process :P
[12:36] <llutz_> until you do it on a non-linux system...
[12:36] <theadmin> llutz_: lol I know what you mean there :D
[12:36] <theadmin> llutz_: Okay, fine, kill $(pidof firefox)
[12:36] <llutz_> pgrep/pkill are to be prefered imho
[12:37] <hrolf> Ok after I install Windows (and it will modify the MBR and remove grub), how do i reinstall grub so that I can again be able to boot Ubuntu?
[12:37] <neuronlunch> hrolf: you need to boot into a live cd
[12:37] <neuronlunch> to fix the problem
[12:37] <llutz_> !grub2 | hrolf
[12:37] <AkivaII> hey, I updated, and now I have thunderbird and evolution installed. Was this a oversight in ubuntu, or should I get rid of one?
[12:38] <hrolf> llutz_: I don't have a live CD, I installed Ubuntu from a USB, will that work?
[12:38] <theadmin> AkivaII: Just keep whatever you use
[12:38] <iceroot> AkivaII: in 11.10 thunderbird is the default mailapp, but because ubuntu doesnt want to remove your old program you have both installed
[12:38] <AkivaII> iceroot: thank you, my regards
[12:38] <dr_willis> hrolf:  you could also install grub to a flash drive as a emeracncy boot loader :)
[12:38] <llutz_> hrolf:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub   if your usb-media offers live-cd functionality its fine
[12:38] <Riii> I
[12:38] <AkivaII> theadmin: nice try
[12:39] <dr_willis> hrolf:  put in a spare flash drive 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc' and let it install to the flash. then test it out.
[12:39] <theadmin> AkivaII: Huh? I'm rather serious, you don't have to keep all the nonsense that comes preinstalled in Ubuntu :/
[12:39] <kamidi> does anyone know why U1 uploads some files 100% but still never finishes?
[12:39] <dr_willis> hrolf:  a good use for those little bity flash drives :)
[12:39] <Adamantus> I'm trying to change the default option for the grub manager.  I found some instructions which say to go to boot/grub/grub.conf but it's not there.
[12:39] <dr_willis> kamidi:  theres the #ubuntu-one channel that may have better info. (or was it #ubuntuone
[12:39] <kamidi> dr_willis: thank you
[12:40] <llutz_> Adamantus: /etc/default/grub is to be changed
[12:40] <theadmin> Adamantus: It's grub.cfg, but you shouldn't edit it directly.
[12:40] <dr_willis> Adamantus:  it would be grub.cfg. and you dont edit that file by hand....
[12:40] <dr_willis> :)
[12:40] <Riii> I'm trying to install ubuntu on my HP Pavilion laptop. It seems that by default HP sets up the hard disk so there are 4 partitions. Is it not possible to have more than 4 partitions? I resized one using the Ubuntu installation tools, but it didn't allow me to install on the newly created space.
[12:40] <theadmin> Riii: You can't have more than 4 primary partitions with MBR, indeed.
[12:41] <Adamantus> llutz, Thanks got it
[12:41] <dr_willis> Riii:  'primary' is the key term.
[12:41] <llutz_> Adamantus: run "sudo update-grub" after changing the file to make changes active
[12:41] <dr_willis> Riii:  you could delete one of the primaries. and make it a extended to hold logicals.
[12:41] <pudger> How do I get the data between the quotes into a variable with this C++ program: http://pastebin.com/ybh6Zn91    For example: getting the data between <range rng=" and the second " /> being find_first_of("\"") and find_last_of("\"")
[12:41] <dr_willis> Riii:  its annoying how pc makers do that 4 primary thing these days.
[12:41] <Riii> Any suggested workarounds? I'd just reinstall Windows if HP had provided CDs...
[12:41] <Riii> but they didn't
[12:42] <jrib> pudger: ask ##c+=
[12:42] <dr_willis> Riii:  #1 - make a backup dvd set..
[12:42] <theadmin> pudger: You should ask in #c++ or #ubuntu-devel, definetly *not* here
[12:42] <jrib> pudger: ask ##c++
[12:42] <MrElendig> Riii: are you going to dualboot with windows?
[12:42] <Riii> And I'm left to guess which of these 4 is safe to delete
[12:42] <Riii> Indeed, plan is to dual boot
[12:42] <MrElendig> got uefi?
[12:42] <Riii> backup dvd set = ?
[12:42] <MrElendig> aparently not
[12:42] <Riii> What is that?
[12:42] <dr_willis> Riii:  if you got the spare ## - get a extra laptop hd.  :) use the backup set to restore to the new hd. and resize/tweak it as needed. and put ubuntu on it.
[12:42] <dr_willis> Riii:  every laptops these days come with an app to make a dvd backup set.
[12:43] <Riii> Ah, lol
[12:43] <dr_willis> Riii:  check the pc's docs/menus/help...
[12:43] <Riii> ok
[12:43] <Riii> i'll do that
[12:43] <neuronlunch> does anyone know how to downgrade after an update? I know this is a bit noobish.
[12:43] <dr_willis> Riii:  when i get a new laptop these days. i alweays buy a 2nd hd for it. to  make a hd clone. :)
[12:43] <theadmin> neuronlunch: You can not.
[12:43] <MrElendig> put windows on a primary partion or two, then make a extended and fill it with logical partions and put ubuntu on that
[12:43] <MrElendig> or just make a single partion for ubuntu and put lvm2 on it
[12:43] <jrib> neuronlunch: why do you want to?
[12:43] <neuronlunch> booo.... to launchpad, thanks theadmin:
[12:44] <neuronlunch> jrib: regression
[12:44] <Riii> MrElendig; this will wipe out windows though and require me to make this backup CD, correct?
[12:44] <jrib> neuronlunch: be more specific
[12:44] <theadmin> neuronlunch: Just wait till they fix it
[12:44] <miyagi_> O:-)
[12:44] <theadmin> neuronlunch: We're not Slackware, you can't downgrade.
[12:44] <MrElendig> not necesary
[12:44] <neuronlunch> jrib: my touchpad on my macbook is now recognised as a mouse
[12:44] <neuronlunch> theadmin: cannot
[12:44] <MrElendig> Riii: you got a windows partion filling the entire drive?
[12:44] <jrib> neuronlunch: what macbook version?
[12:44] <MrElendig> err most of it anyway
[12:44] <neuronlunch> 8,1 new one
[12:44] <neuronlunch> but same as Early 2011
[12:45] <Riii> Yes, that is how they set things up. i can take a screenshot so you can see what it looks like
[12:45] <jrib> neuronlunch: have you found relevant bug on launchpad?
[12:45] <neuronlunch> I have posted a bug report
[12:45] <MrElendig> Riii: shrink one and delete another windows partion, make a new extended on the free space, make a /boot, / and /home as logical inside the extended, done :)
[12:46] <MrElendig> swap too if you want to s2d
[12:46] <neuronlunch> seems to affect many different models
[12:46] <neuronlunch> not just apple
[12:46] <neuronlunch> just need to find a workaround
[12:46] <llutz_> no need for /boot on simple dualboot
[12:46] <hrolf> llutz_: The link you referred me to says that boot into Ubuntu CD and then install and run Boot-Repair disk. Can I install programs in the Live CD?
[12:46] <MrElendig> llutz_: can be handy, eg if he wants lvm2, crypto or similar later
[12:46] <llutz_> hrolf: yes
[12:47] <dr_willis> hrolf:  they install to ram. so yes
[12:47] <MrElendig> only takes up 100mb max anyway, and as logical there isn't a problem with max number of partions either
[12:47] <neuronlunch> jrib: any ideas?
[12:47] <jrib> neuronlunch: no
[12:48] <neuronlunch> very sad :(, thanks anyways
[12:48] <hrolf> llutz_, dr_willis: And installing Boot-Repair from a Live CD will require Internet, right?
[12:49] <VV> hello g33ks,anyone knw any best vpn providers?
[12:49] <jrib> !ot | VV
[12:50] <theadmin> hrolf: Yes, however there's an alternate way which won't require a connection.
[12:50] <hrolf> theadmin: What is it?
[12:50] <theadmin> hrolf: The good old grub-install method...
[12:50] <hrolf> theadmin: grub-install is available in the Live CD?
[12:50] <theadmin> hrolf: I beleive we had a wiki article on that, I forgot the place and factoid, though
[12:50] <Riii> Looks like this HP_Tools partition is a good candidate for deletion
[12:51] <theadmin> hrolf: Yes, it should be
[12:51] <jasonmsp> hey all.  Anyone know how I could control the music playing on my ubuntu machine from a mac laptop?
[12:51] <hrolf> theadmin: Alrighty
[12:52] <dr_willis> hrolf:  ive seen remasterd ubuntu cd;s with it allready installed.
[12:53] <th0r> jasonmsp: x-forwarding?
[12:54] <Adamantus> I did sudo nautilus and got "Could not register the application: Error connecting: Connection refused"
[12:54] <buharin> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/fglrx_2%3a8.881-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb: podproces nowy skrypt pre-installation
[12:54] <buharin> what to do?
[12:54] <dr_willis> jasonmsp:  vlc and other apps often have web-front ends also. then theres good old ssh.
[12:54] <theadmin> buharin: Do "gksu nautilus" instead.
[12:54] <theadmin> oops
[12:54] <theadmin> Adamantus: ^
[12:54] <theadmin> buharin: Ignore that.
[12:54] <Sidewinder1> gksudo for guis...
[12:55] <llutz_> buharin: repeat in english or use #ubuntu-pl
[12:55] <Dice-Man> hello
[12:55] <caesar> hi
[12:55] <buharin> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/fglrx_2%3a8.881-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb: podproces new script pre-installation
[12:55] <Dice-Man> is there a way to know the name of my audio devices?
[12:55] <buharin> apt-get -f installl not working
[12:56] <th0r> Dice-Man: lspci or lshw
[12:56] <jasonmsp> th0r: thanks
[12:56] <buharin> it looks like all broken : (
[12:56] <jasonmsp> dr_willis: thanks
[12:56] <caesar> my xchat requests sasl to connect.. i got the files just can't find the directory to put them into
[12:56] <caesar> the xchat directory
[12:57] <Dice-Man> th0r: well i'm asking the name like /dev/stuff
[12:57] <dr_willis> !find sasl
[12:57] <Dice-Man> th0r: it's because teamspeak can't access to them
[12:57] <llutz_> caesar: ~/.xchat2
[12:57] <theadmin> llutz_: Wouldn't really be a place to put libraries into
[12:57] <dr_willis> shouldent you be installing the libsasl2 stuff from teh repos?
[12:58] <Guest2201929> Hi? all
[12:58] <caesar> i got it from the freenode site
[12:58] <caesar> it says paste them into the xchat directory
[12:58] <oCean> !rootirc > Guest67945
[12:58] <llutz_> caesar: ~/.xchat2
[12:59] <llutz_> theadmin: those aren't libs
[12:59] <caesar> yes
[12:59] <dr_willis> those are some support scripts?
[12:59] <theadmin> llutz_: Oh, okay.
[12:59] <nio707> hello all
[13:00] <nio707> i am trying to install ubuntu on my laptop but the live session is asking for the username and the password i tried everypossibility please tell me the default username and the password
[13:00] <jrib> nio707: checksum your cd.
[13:01] <nio707> how to do that
[13:01] <JLuc> hello all
[13:01] <nio707> JLuc how to checksum my cd
[13:01] <jrib> nio707: there used to be an option at the beginning to "check cd for defects".  If that no longer exists, see ubottu
[13:01] <JLuc> i dunno im quite a newbe to linux !
[13:01] <jrib> !verify | nio707
[13:01] <caesar> what's the terminal download code
[13:01] <caesar> for a link
[13:01] <llutz_> wget caesar
[13:02] <nio707> JLuc yes the option comes when i press tab
[13:03] <JLuc> PLz, I have a ubuntu 11.04 working badly, and cannot use the proposed upgrade option. However I have a CDROM that would enable to install Oneiric 11.10. Is there a way to upgrade through the CD ?
[13:03] <JLuc> or i have to delete the partition and install from scratch ?
[13:03] <nio707> JLuc: why do you need to checksum the cd when only thing i need is the username and the password. Is there is an possibility that the ubuntu is importing the username and the password from my xp which is installed on that
[13:04] <JLuc> nio707 i think its not me you should be talking to
[13:04] <JLuc> either mistake or wicked brain
[13:04] <theadmin> nio707: The default username is "ubuntu", the default password is not set.
[13:04] <sudipta> how to install ns2 in ubuntu 11.10?the one the repo does not seem to work
[13:04] <theadmin> nio707: However, if the CD asks you for a password, it's likely damaged -- no good. This is why you haz to checksum.
[13:04] <Sidewinder1> nio707, You're trying to ask jrib for help. :-)
[13:05] <JLuc> jrib is not jluc
[13:05] <jrib> nio707: because you should not need username or password.
[13:05] <nio707> theadmin: can i change the default grub entry for the live session to boot as a single user
[13:05] <sudipta> how to install ns2 in ubuntu 11.10?the one the repo does not seem to work
[13:06] <theadmin> nio707: That'd be "single" I beleive. But you don't need that...
[13:07] <perlmonkey> hi, I have just installed Ubuntu 11.8 and have a couple of questions... I don't seem to be able to reverse my mouse buttons... if I select left handed under Mouse options it doesn't switch the buttons over it like it used to.  Perhaps I need to logout/in or restart?   Secondly, although I have installed my nvidia proprietory driver, I can't see how to access the nvidia control panel that lets you adjust the settings.
[13:07] <dr_willis> nio707:  eveyr time ive seen the live cd ask for a user/pass - its been due to a badly burnt live cd or bad iso file.
[13:07] <dr_willis> bbl.
[13:08] <JLuc> PLz, I have a ubuntu 11.04 working badly, and cannot use the proposed upgrade option. However I have a CDROM that would enable to install Oneiric 11.10. Is there a way to upgrade through the CD or i have to delete the partition and install 11.10 from scratch ?
[13:08] <theadmin> JLuc: You can only upgrade using an alternate CD.
[13:08] <perlmonkey> sorry I meant Ubuntu 11.10
[13:09] <theadmin> perlmonkey: As for the nvidia driver, first run "sudo nvidia-xconfig", after that reboot, you should be able to access the center through the settings thing
[13:09] <perlmonkey> ok I have found my nvidia settings
[13:09] <Sidewinder1> nio707, Since it appears that you've got a 'bad' CD, you may wish to start over; this site is invaluable and contains step by step instructions: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[13:10] <Afflicto> Ok I've been googling for a while - to no avail. Nobody knows how I can fix this -> running 11.10 and have installed Gnome3 but it's all glitchy white white text and it lags and buttons appear wierd etc. (only the top menu) the rest is fine. it lags whenever I hit Super key. (However, whenever there is a notification shown, it doesn't lag... for some strange reason). - Please help! thanks
[13:10] <perlmonkey> theadmin thanks, any idea about why the mouse buttons won't reverse? you reckon I might need to logout or reboot?
[13:10] <theadmin> perlmonkey: probably
[13:10] <perlmonkey> ok thanks
[13:10] <sudipta> how to install ns2 in ubuntu 11.10?the one the repo does not seem to work
[13:12]  * tolecnal envies those that get nvidia to work with 11.04 and 11.10
[13:14] <Sidewinder1> tolecnal, How 'bout 10.04?
[13:14] <tolecnal> Sidewinder1: works like a charm
[13:14] <Sidewinder1> Here too.
[13:14] <Sidewinder1> :D
[13:14] <tolecnal> with 11.04 and 11.10 I just get kernel oops as xorg starts up.. the nvidia kernel mode shits itself
[13:15] <tolecnal> s/mode/module/
[13:15] <Sidewinder1> !language :-)
[13:17] <Hoppipolla> Anyone can help me to get Flash Player X64 11 properly working on Oneiric X64  (P.S. ATI Mobility Radeon 5730 HD), getting flash player lag, sound is slower than video :)
[13:18] <Sir_> problem with dial-up connection
[13:21] <caesar> can someone running 11.10 with latests updates test something for me?
[13:21] <Sidewinder1> !modem > Sir_
[13:21] <no_gravity> Hello from Germany! I want to see the google results like people in other countries see them. So I played around with free proxies. I noticed, that when I put in a proxy in Chromes settings, its installed system wide! Even when I do click "Use system wide". So all my data goes through this shady proxy all of a sudden. Is there a way to use a proxy for just one application?
[13:21] <perlmonkey> whats with LibreOffice in 11.10, is it a rebrand of OpenOffice or a different software?
[13:22] <caesar> http://www.dafont.com/monarchbats.font // can someone try installing this font.. tell me if you have success or not
[13:22] <brontosaurusrex> perlmonkey, a fork
[13:23] <Sir_> Sidewinder1 yes modem: u.s.robotics 56k Faxmodem Com
[13:23] <hrolf> How can I check in 11.10 which type of CD/DVD I have. Need to know if I can burn DVDs (silly me, I'm new to Linux)
[13:24] <llutz_> hrolf: wodim -prcap
[13:24] <Sidewinder1> Hoppipolla, I can't really help with 11.10 (10.04 here), sorry, however, from your previous discussion, it might be an Ati Radeon driver issue as Ati's developers do not support *nix as well as Nvidia.
[13:24] <perlmonkey> if I want my system to auto mount my nfs partition, I assume I need an entry in /etc/fstab? should it look like this: 192.168.1.101:/home/user /home/user nfs 0 0 ?
[13:25] <Hoppipolla> Sidewinder1: But GLX gears works perfectly :)
[13:25] <Sidewinder1> Sir_, Have you thoroughly read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto ?
[13:25] <caesar> http://www.dafont.com/monarchbats.font // can someone try installing this font.. tell me if you have success or not
[13:26] <hrolf> llutz_: Thanks.
[13:26] <Sidewinder1> Hoppipolla, Understood; 'twas just a suggestion; is your problem exclusively with Flash applications?
[13:27] <Hoppipolla> Sidewinder1: Seems so, exclusively with flash games. Like HaxBall, or AngryBirds online
[13:27] <llutz_> perlmonkey: basically yes, you may want to add some options. (man 5 nfs)
[13:27] <perlmonkey> llutz_ thanks I will read
[13:28] <Afflicto> Hello everyone, back again. I followed some guide on the net and did some sudo commands, reinstalled gnome 3 and added some theme stuff or something. Now it looks like old ubuntu from a few months ago. it feels like gnome 2 maybe? - what am I doing wrong? I want gnome 3 it was so intuitive with the super button opening that window with all applications etc. - Please help!
[13:28] <Sidewinder1> hrolf, Did you have a look at the link that I gave you, a while ago? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[13:29] <Sidewinder1> hrolf, It should answer just about any questions that you may have..
[13:29] <llutz_> Afflicto: looks liek gnome2? isn't that excatly what the majority of 11.10-users want? scnr )
[13:30] <Afflicto> llutz I dno... I want gnome 3 it was epic. I love the thing that opens when u push the super button.
[13:30] <rns> I have 8 gigs of RAM - do I need the 64-bit version of Ubuntu to take advantage of all 8 gigs?
[13:30] <llutz_> rns: yes
[13:31] <rns> llutz, are there any known problems or hassles with the 64-bit version vs the 32-bit version?
[13:31] <llutz_> rns: afaik no
[13:31] <mang0> How can I get rid of this: http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/dqmuheid/Selection_004.png see the little triangle under the Ubuntu logo? it's so irratating....
[13:33] <caesar> can someone try installing this font.. tell me if you have success or not \/ http://www.dafont.com/monarchbats.font
[13:33] <jrib> caesar: ask your actual question
[13:33] <caesar> wont install for me
[13:34] <caesar> installed fine on 11.04
[13:34] <jrib> caesar: how are you trying?
[13:34] <caesar> double click on and then click install
[13:34] <caesar> ttf
[13:34] <jrib> caesar: is it in your ~/.fonts/ ?
[13:34] <||arifaX> caesar: it's shareware. I have no money, sorry
[13:34] <caesar> it's free for personal use
[13:35] <caesar> jrib: it's says install failed
[13:35] <jrib> caesar: is it in your ~/.fonts/ ?
[13:35]  * wh1zz0 Hi guys, I have a static IP but I do not have a router, can I still host my website on my computer?
[13:35] <caesar> how do i navigate to that directory
[13:35] <caesar> jrib:
[13:35] <jrib> wh1zz0: as long as your isp says it's ok, sure
[13:35] <jrib> caesar: /home/YOUR_USERNAME/.fonts
[13:35] <dr_willis> ctrl-h in nautilus to show hidden dirs
[13:36] <dr_willis> or use the command line. :)
[13:36] <Afflicto> how can I see if I'm using gnome 2 or 3?
[13:36] <wh1zz0> jrib: Yes, it's allowed, but they do not allow access to router.. Is is still possible for me to do this without having to do any port forwarding?
[13:36] <dr_willis> Afflicto:  if you are using 11.10 then you are using gnome3
[13:36] <jrib> wh1zz0: yes
[13:36] <brontosaurusrex> caesar, works here
[13:36] <dr_willis> Afflicto:  befor that it was gnome2
[13:36] <caesar> brontosaurusrex: what distro you using?
[13:37] <brontosaurusrex> natty
[13:37] <Afflicto> dr_willis ok well the epic window management and application launcher that opens when I pressed the Super button is gone now. and it looks like it did a few months ago on 10.4 or something.
[13:37] <wh1zz0> jrib: Please how can I go about this? I'd appreciate if you recommend a good tutorial as all the ones I have found so far have to do with port forwarding e.t.c
[13:37] <dr_willis> Afflicto:  what ubuntu did you install?
[13:37] <llutz_> wh1zz0: if you have no router, you don't need any portforwarding
[13:38] <jrib> wh1zz0: you don't have to do anything special.  You just omit the port-forwarding stuff.  i.e. you install apache2 and then you are done.
[13:38] <Afflicto> dr_willis I don't remember. it was an install I had on my hard drive from a few weeks ago. I upgraded to 11.10
[13:38] <brontosaurusrex> caesar, showing up in Abiword, what app are you after?
[13:38] <caesar> GIMP
[13:38] <dr_willis> Afflicto:  if you upgraded to 11.10  then...... you are using 11.10
[13:38] <brontosaurusrex> caesar, let me try
[13:38] <caesar> it's in .font
[13:38] <caesar> jrib:
[13:38] <caesar> just says install failed
[13:38] <caesar> let me try to open it in GIMP
[13:39] <Afflicto> dr_will k. so I'm using gnome 3?.. if so, how do I enable that super-button-goes-awesomeness function?
[13:39] <wh1zz0> jrib: llutz_: I have apache2 already installed but that only creates localhost.
[13:39] <dr_willis> if  the font is allready installed.. and you try to reinstall it.. it may be saying failed.
[13:39] <hotmedal> While upgrading to 11.10 ubuntu crashed and I ran apt-get dist-upgrade from a recovery xterm. Now when I boot, it gets stuck at the boot screen saying it will boot without network config (it has waited 60 secs). But it doesn't. Instead I do ctrl+alt+F1 to switch to a terminal
[13:39] <dr_willis> Afflicto:  if it crashed, try running 'unity --replace' in a terminal, or via alt-f2
[13:39] <llutz_> wh1zz0: change the config to make it listen on all ifaces
[13:39] <wh1zz0> jrib: llutz_: When someone goes to my static IP address, they say they do not see my website
[13:39] <hotmedal> how do I get it to work?
[13:39] <||arifaX> caesar: saved the zip to /tmp. unzipped it manually on the command line. klicked the .TTF in konqueror. selected install - no errors -worked!
[13:40] <wh1zz0> llutz_: How do I achieve this ?
[13:40] <brontosaurusrex> caesar, shows up in gimp as well
[13:40] <caesar> yea i noticed
[13:40] <llutz_> wh1zz0: edit your apache-config, ask in #httpd for help
[13:40] <jrib> wh1zz0: then either your isp blocks it or you have enabled firewall (by default you will not have firewall rules blocking apache)
[13:40] <Afflicto> dr_willis didn't change anything.. except I don't have any window toolbars now o.O
[13:40] <caesar> didnt think to check.. figured if it said install failed it just wouldnt be there
[13:41] <caesar> ||arifaX: what disto you using?
[13:41] <cellardoor> What is the password for the LiveCD root account?
[13:41] <llutz_> wh1zz0: "sudo lsof -i :80"
[13:41] <jrib> cellardoor: why?
[13:41] <||arifaX> caesar: KUbuntu 10.04.3 LTS
[13:42] <hotmedal> While upgrading to 11.10 ubuntu crashed and I ran apt-get dist-upgrade from a recovery xterm. Now when I boot, it gets stuck at the boot screen saying it will boot without network config (it has waited 60 secs). But it doesn't. Instead I do ctrl+alt+F1 to switch to a terminal. Also, mv /var/run/* /run/ fails.
[13:42] <cellardoor> jrib, I am writing a tutorial that may require people to boot into the ubuntu live cd, but they need to be root.
[13:42] <jrib> !root | cellardoor
[13:42] <cellardoor> Ahh
[13:42] <dr_willis> Afflicto:  the 2 main commands would be 'unity --replace' and 'compiz --replace'
[13:42] <caesar> i installed in 11.04 with no issues.. 11.10 says 'install failed'
[13:42] <dr_willis> Afflicto:  depending on what crashed.
[13:42] <caesar> weird
[13:43] <ikonia> cellardoor: if you're writing a tutorial, it's best to understand the basics of what you're doing
[13:43] <raven> how to start a vnc server during boot when no user is logged in?
[13:43] <wh1zz0> jrib: llutz_: Hummm.. Actually, I haven't touched any firewall setting. And here's the result of sudo lsof -i :80 http://paste.ubuntu.com/723276/
[13:43] <|Long|> my firefox keep crashing on 11.10, can someone plz help?
[13:43] <cellardoor> ikonia, it's for rooting the DesireHD, I did it through my installation of Ubuntu, but the developer says it can be done in the LiveCD too.
[13:43] <dr_willis> raven:  one way.. install vnc server, start it from /etc/rc.local
[13:43] <raven> dr_willis, which vnc server?
[13:44] <dr_willis> cellardoor:  sudo -i, gets you a root shell if you need one.
[13:44] <mang0> How can I get rid of this: http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/dqmuheid/Selection_004.png see the little triangle under the Ubuntu logo? it's so irratating....
[13:44] <dr_willis> raven:  any you like. theres like 5 of them i recall.
[13:44] <cellardoor> dr_willis, perfect, thanks!
[13:44] <raven> ok
[13:44] <ikonia> cellardoor again....if you're writiting a tutorial it's important to understand the basics of what you are doing,
[13:44] <llutz_> wh1zz0: its already bound to all ifaces. if people from WAN cannot reach it, check your firewall or your ISP might block it
[13:44] <cellardoor> ikonia, I do, and dr_willis just solved my problem.
[13:44] <dr_willis> cellardoor:  thats the same on a normal ubuntu install...
[13:44] <ikonia> cellardoor: sorry, it's clear you don't.
[13:45] <hotmedal> While upgrading to 11.10 ubuntu crashed and I ran apt-get dist-upgrade from a recovery xterm. Now when I boot, it gets stuck at the boot screen saying it will boot without network config (it has waited 60 secs). But it doesn't. Instead I do ctrl+alt+F1 to switch to a terminal. Also, mv /var/run/* /run/ fails.
[13:45] <llutz_> wh1zz0: sudo iptables -vL INPUT
[13:46] <cellardoor> ikonia, tyvm http://android.appstorm.net/how-to/customization/alpharevx-at-last-you-can-root-the-wildfire/
[13:46] <Hoppipolla> Is there anyone familiar with Flash Player Sound lag problem on Oneiric X64 ?
[13:46] <wh1zz0> llutz_: Okie I typed ifconfig and got this address 192.168.1.2 as my inet adr when I go there I see the default apache page saying it works.. But that IP looks very familiar, as I have seen this same IP address on other people's computers which makes me feel it's not a true IP.. When others visit it they don't see my site.. So not sure what's wrong here
[13:47] <ikonia> cellardoor: posting links doesn't mean anything. Again. If YOU are writing a tutorial it's important YOU understand the basics of what you are doing - it's clear you don't
[13:47] <llutz_> wh1zz0: its not your external ip
[13:47] <cellardoor> ikonia, I am the author of that.
[13:47] <wh1zz0> llutz_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/723280/ the result for sudo iptables -vL INPUT
[13:47] <ikonia> cellardoor so?
[13:47]  * cellardoor facepalms
[13:47] <wh1zz0> llutz_: Yeah, even when they visit my external IP, they don't see my website
[13:48] <hotmedal> ikonia: who cares about a guy who writs tutorials he doesn't understand?
[13:48] <hotmedal> ikonia: help me instead!
[13:48] <ikonia> cellardoor you're asking basic questions about the security model of the OS....that's not understanding what you are writing about
[13:48] <llutz_> wh1zz0: if you really don't have a router, your ISP NATs for you. if he refuses to setup portforwarding for you (and he won't do it) you cannot be reached from WAN
[13:49] <ikonia> hotmedal: it's important as there are too many nonsense tutorials that are written from a "works for me" perspecive
[13:49] <cellardoor> ikonia, all I was asking is for one thing I haven't had to do before. Hardly an issue.
[13:49] <hotmedal> ikonia: lol I know. But I was actually trying to draw attention to my problem
[13:50] <ikonia> hotmedal and I'm ignorng it
[13:50] <hotmedal> :(
[13:50] <wh1zz0> llutz_: Hmm I see.. I just did an nmap scan on my inet IP and got this... http://paste.ubuntu.com/723283/
[13:50] <ghabit> Hello. I have installed and uninstalled wine. But 'open with notepad' are still in context menu. How to dele it?
[13:51] <hotmedal> While upgrading to 11.10 ubuntu crashed and I ran apt-get dist-upgrade from a recovery xterm. Now when I boot, it gets stuck at the boot screen saying it will boot without network config (it has waited 60 secs). But it doesn't. Instead I do ctrl+alt+F1 to switch to a terminal. Also, mv /var/run/* /run/ fails.
[13:51] <llutz_> wh1zz0: addresses from 192.168.* are not routed through the internet, you cannot be reached. its NOT your real external IP
[13:51] <dr_willis> ghabit:  those are defined in the users setting files in their home dir. theres some .desktop files that add them to the menus
[13:52] <hotmedal> wh1zz0: go to whatismyip.com
[13:52] <wh1zz0> llutz_:  Yea.. very true..
[13:52] <ghabit> dr_willis, so I have to find something like notepad.desktop and just delete it, right?
[13:52] <dr_willis> ghabit:  .local/share/applications  i think
[13:52] <llutz_> wh1zz0: so get a cheap webhosting somewhere and put your stuff there.
[13:52] <wh1zz0> llutz_: I know that's my inet.. and that the IP i see when I visit whatismyip is my real external
[13:52] <dr_willis> ghabit:  yes. the .desktop file defines the menu entry
[13:55] <hrolf> What application should I use to burn DVDs/CDs in Ubuntu. The default Brasero has some negative reviews.
[13:55] <lolzer> wget -r -np -nH –cut-dirs=3 http://XXXXXX/XXXXX/XXXXX/
[13:55] <lolzer> with this i get a 400 error
[13:55] <wh1zz0> llutz_: oops.. Hummm... Thanks.. And I really really wanted to host my stuff.. :((
[13:55] <llutz_> wh1zz0: change your ISÜ
[13:55] <llutz_> ISP
[13:55] <lolzer> im just a starter .. is there a link that explains this??
[13:55] <llutz_> lolzer: "man wget"
[13:55] <wh1zz0> llutz_: Yeah.. I think that'd be my next option
[13:57] <lolzer> llutz,  but where will i get the reason for the 400 error i get ...
[13:57] <ghabit> dr_willis, bless you!
[13:57] <Sidewinder1> lolzer, Aren't 404 errors when a site is unavailable?
[13:58] <llutz_> thats 404
[13:58] <llutz_> 400 bad request
[13:58] <Sidewinder1> llutz, Thanx.
[13:58] <lolzer> wget works in subfolder files ...
[13:59] <lolzer> well i want to download the pictures in the server i hosted but i was banned .. and i want all my personal files back
[13:59] <daniel> Does anyone know anything about getting sound to work in Ubuntu 11?  I select the sound for my front speaker (Analog Output (LFE)) but it keeps going back to (Analog Headphones).
[14:00] <fxhp> lolzer: check out my python image grabber
[14:00] <daniel> I was running Ubuntu an earlier Ubuntu and sound worked before I upgraded my hard drive and Ubuntu.
[14:00] <fxhp> lolzer: http://russell.ballestrini.net/python-image-grabber-pig-py/
[14:01] <daniel> Also worked in Mint and PCLOS which are based on Ubuntu.
[14:01] <dr_willis> daniel:  and it may work if you did a clean install...
[14:01] <lolzer> daniel, analog stereo  Duplex is what i selected... i had that problem
[14:01] <daniel> I did a clean install.
[14:01] <dr_willis> daniel:  You said you upgraded your ubuntu :)
[14:01] <daniel> I am running Ubuntu 11.10
[14:02] <SinvalPinheiro> hi..  How to use Ubuntu 11.10 + proxy + autentic
[14:02] <dr_willis> so you did a clean install of 11.10, you did not upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10
[14:02] <daniel> Yes I took out my old HD and put in a new one, downloaded 11.10 and installed Ubuntu that way.  My old Ubuntu was 10,04
[14:02] <aHardyX> Hey there! I updated my ubuntu 10.10 with kernel 3.1 but now it boot in verbose only. Plymouth does not show up but the resolution fo the screen is correct (1600x900). How do I get plymouth working again?
[14:03] <xangua> aHardyX: use the kernel incluided on 10.10 repository ;)
[14:03] <daniel> I shouldn't of said upgraded I guess.
[14:03] <mang0> How can I get rid of this: http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/dqmuheid/Selection_004.png see the little triangle under the Ubuntu logo? it's so irratating....
[14:04] <aHardyX> xangua: It was working with the same kernel earlier. but then I updated initramfs and now it doesn't work.
[14:04] <ikonia> aHardyX: [rpbab;y becaise the plymouth files (theme) are not in the vanilla initrd
[14:04] <ikonia> aHardyX: why are you using te 3.0 kernel?
[14:05] <aHardyX> ikonia: thats becoz Belkin wifi drivers are not included in ver 2.x
[14:05] <ikonia> aHardyX: I'm pretty sure they are, what device exactly
[14:06] <Sidewinder1> Speaking of irritating triangles in the panel, does anyone know when openprinting, org will be back? I know it's related to the kernel.org intrusion but that was months ago. Perhaps I need to reset something in my sources?
[14:06] <SinvalPinheiro> Gnome-shell Rox - Unity is for gay
[14:06] <aHardyX> ikonia: its an belkin fd1101
[14:06] <ikonia> SinvalPinheiro: tone that down now
[14:06] <ikonia> SinvalPinheiro: no more homosexual comments please.
[14:07] <bluenemo> m)
[14:07] <jussi> bluenemo: 1
[14:08] <ikonia> aHardyX: that is in the 2.6 kernel
[14:08] <aHardyX> ikonia: I have kernel 2.6.35 with 3.1 and it does not detect it
[14:08] <stathis> hi
[14:08] <ikonia> aHardyX it uses the F7D1101 module
[14:09] <vincentk> Hello, not new to Linux / Ubuntu.  Have clean installed 11.10 after much effort on an Intel Atom D525 / NM10 motherboard based system.  This system installs and runs fine on Win7.  Had problems with Natty and Maverick to...installer crashing with graphical and alternative install.
[14:09] <vincentk> To install Oneiric Ocelot, I disabled hyperthreading and execute bit disabled in BIOS.  Finally managed to get install done but
[14:09] <vincentk> X crashes and Mozilla crashes as well.  The motherboard is ATNM10T-I.
[14:10] <aHardyX> ikonia: hmm......then why is it not working in 2.6.xx?
[14:10] <ikonia> aHardyX: I don't know without looking into it
[14:11] <daniel> Only problem I have is sound and I cannot use the latest graphics drivers on here.
[14:11] <Sidewinder1> !sound > daniel
[14:11] <written> is there an alternative webdav server for ubuntu? i don't like to use apache2, lighttpd just for providing webdav services
[14:12] <daniel> Everytime I check the right setting and test the speakers it changes back to default settings and no sound
[14:12] <ikonia> written what's wrong with apache2 or lighttpd
[14:12] <written> it's overkill
[14:13] <ikonia> written lighthttpd is very light
[14:13] <written> but please answer my question
[14:13] <aHardyX> ikonia: ok to be precise.....does kernel 2.6.35-28 have the F7D1101 module?
[14:14] <ikonia> written look in the repos for webdav servers, you will not find something lighter than lighthttpd though
[14:14] <ikonia> aHardyX yes
[14:14] <brontosaurusrex> written, nginx
[14:14] <written> nginx has some limitations
[14:14] <aHardyX> ikonia: now thats wierd.
[14:14] <rosstaylor> i have recently updated my ubuntu to 11.10, how do I change the desktop to the classic look?
[14:14] <daniel> When you log-in you choose Classic.
[14:15] <Sidewinder1> !nounity | rosstaylor
[14:15] <rosstaylor> sidewinder1: sudo apt-get instsall gnome-shell?
[14:15] <rosstaylor> sidewinder1: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell?
[14:15] <daniel> I installed Gnome then rebooted choosing Classic.
[14:16] <Sidewinder1> rosstaylor, That looks correct.
[14:17] <Sidewinder1> rosstaylor, I prefer the package mgrs. (Synaptic, Software Center) to CLI.
[14:17] <Sidewinder1> rosstaylor, My typing stinks. ;-)
[14:18] <rosstaylor> sidewinder1: ok it's installing, i will reboot and log back in with the gnome shell, if i don't come back, thank you very much
[14:18] <Sidewinder1> :D
[14:18] <xangua> (08:18:30) rosstaylor: sidewinder1: ok it's installing, i will reboot  - this is not windows ;)
[14:19] <written> okay. i think i'll use pywebdav since i need python anyway for pyload
[14:22] <daniel> I think I will go back to Ubuntu 10 or try 11.04.  Sound  just refuses to work.
[14:23] <Sidewinder1> daniel, All aspects of sound, video, etc. work flawlessly here; 10.04, :D
[14:23] <daniel> This computer has a front speaker that works in Windows and used to work in Ubuntu.
[14:24] <daniel> Yeah it was flawless here til I upgraded the HD and re-installed everything.
[14:24] <Sidewinder1> If it ain't broke don't fix it.. ;-)
[14:24] <johnyB1> does anybody know how to disable the displaying of who joined/left this channel in xchat?
[14:24] <Sidewinder1> But I know what you mean.
[14:25] <Shadow_7> 11.10.. ati.. fglrx... I get a real pretty blue loading screen... then a black one...
[14:25] <xangua> johnyB1: on it's preferences i belive, I don't use xchat
[14:25] <llutz_> Sidewinder1: rightclk on the channel-tab
[14:26] <daniel> I run nvidia buton this computer if I use the latest drivers in Win and Lin I get a black screen upon boot eventhough the PC is still working perfectly.
[14:26] <Sidewinder1> llutz, I beg your pardon.?
[14:26] <Shadow_7> And the usb keyboard becomes non-functional...  But the old style serial one still works...
[14:27] <llutz_> Sidewinder1: rightclk on the channel-tab -> settings
[14:27] <DasEi> daniel:tried :
[14:27] <DasEi> !nomodeset
[14:27] <llutz_> argh Sidewinder1 wrong nick, sry
[14:27] <Beast> hello
[14:27] <llutz_> johnyB1: rightclk on the channel-tab -> settings
[14:27] <matlock> so who else has been experiencing a problem with the graphics when you log out
[14:27] <johnyB1> llutz: thanks!
[14:28] <DasEi> daniel , which nvidia do you use ?
[14:28] <Beast> i originally installed 11.04 on one partition, then install 11.10 on another partition, now i deleted the 11.04 partition and now grub wont load. how do i repair or reinstall grub?
[14:28] <matlock> example, I log out, or switch user, it goes to the login screen but there's no user profiles listed, and the background is broken up into many squares
[14:28] <Shadow_7> I've been rebooting so much... I thought the distro was winbuntu
[14:28] <matlock> what causes thius?
[14:28] <DasEi> !grub | Beast
[14:28] <matlock> it happens every day
[14:29] <matlock> almost every time I log out
[14:29] <DasEi> Beast: first link
[14:29] <daniel> nvidia geforce 8400GS PCIe the problem is this computer cause I used this card in nmy old dell before it died on my.
[14:29] <Beast> thanks
[14:29] <daniel> me.
[14:29] <Sidewinder1> llutz, No prob. :D
[14:29] <DasEi> Beast: err second, grub2 oc
[14:30] <matlock> yee, i got an nvidia 9600GSM and cannot use nvidia drivers
[14:30] <daniel> I am using and HP/Compaq SFF computer now til I get a new computer.
[14:30] <matlock> cause with jockey they don't report they're in use
[14:30] <matlock> and i can't use my dual monitor setuyp
[14:30] <matlock> *setup
[14:30] <matlock> so is that related to my login screen problem?
[14:31] <matlock> sure would be nice if someone in here would actually help one of these times I come to this room
[14:31] <daniel> ,atlock try using the 173 version drivers not the current version drivers.
[14:31] <daniel> matlock
[14:31] <matlock> i've tried all versions
[14:31] <matlock> same results
[14:31] <daniel> Ah.
[14:31] <matlock> jockey reports activated but not inuse
[14:31] <matlock> can't setup dual monitors
[14:31] <matlock> so i'm forced to use the experimental driver
[14:31] <daniel> I am only running one monitor right now.
[14:32] <matlock> technically so am i because the default monitor in my laptop had the inverter go out
[14:32] <daniel> It is hard to find the 4:3 screens these days.  I refuse to use widescreen ones.
[14:32] <DasEi> daniel, ah 173 already said, 32 or 64 bit ? and did you run an sudo nvidia-xconfig / restarted x after driver's install ?
[14:32] <daniel> Ah you're on a lappy.
[14:32] <matlock> yep asus m70vm-x1
[14:33] <coggy9> Could anyone help me? I'm trying to install the proprietary drivers for my ATI card, it failed, and now Unity/Unity 2D won't come up at all.
[14:33] <matlock> haven't had any problems with it since 8.10
[14:33] <matlock> but starting with 11.04 it's like canonical decided to break everything
[14:33] <daniel> This is a 32bit system and yes DasEI
[14:34] <daniel> It installs the latest (Current) drivers for nvidia but upon restart it loads til the login screen and then monitor goes blank.  Same results in Windows XP.
[14:34] <daniel> I suspect the problem is this computer.
[14:34] <DasEi> daniel, so either the 173 from repo or http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-260.19.36-driver.html should do it fine, that's non exotic hardware at all
[14:35] <daniel> Yes 173 works flawlessly DasEI
[14:35] <DasEi> daniel,hmm other issues , onboard vga set as primary ?
[14:35] <DasEi> as same on win..
[14:35] <matlock> see for me, i install either of the nvidia drivers, reboot (or restart x)  and i get the nvidia rom bootscreen, goes to login screen and I can't use fn f8 to swap over to my external monitor to configure things
[14:35] <daniel> BIOS disabled the onboard video.
[14:36] <daniel> Right now my problem is sound not video.
[14:36] <matlock> if my backlight weren't borked i'd be able to configure things
[14:36] <daniel> In order to get sound I need to go out and get speakers.
[14:36] <matlock> and how do i report this damn ui to the devs as being a big bug
[14:36] <matlock> cause that's all it is
[14:37] <perlmonkey> I have just installed kdenlive under Ubuntu 11.10 and tried to start it, and got "Fatal Error - MLT's SDL module not found. Please check your MLT install" I have not been able to find out what this MLT is. Does anyone know?
[14:37] <matlock> here's a protip canonical, pc's aren't smartphones, don't design them as ones.
[14:37] <matlock> so designing a ui that depends on a touchscreen is retarded
[14:37] <Shadow_7> nomodeset was NOT a solution... ati... fglrx... black screen...
[14:37] <matlock> that's what the netbook remix is for
[14:37] <matlock> etc
[14:38] <matlock> YO IS ANYONE IN HERE HELPING PEOPLE OR IS THIS JUST A GIANT CIRCLEJERK??
[14:38] <matlock> !NVIDIA
[14:38] <matlock> too bad that won't help
[14:38] <Shadow_7> just a bot I think...
[14:39] <moljac024> omg
[14:39] <matlock> yea ubottu is a bot
[14:39] <Shadow_7> Have you tried the usuals... aticonfig --initial -f
[14:39] <toto> hy
[14:39] <SuprEngr> Q/  anyone know of a GUI ap for encypting files on a 10.04 machine to send to U1 & decrypting files on an 11.10 machine? {same app in both repositories, therefore]
[14:39] <moljac024> there are no screenshots for anything in software center and this issue is IMPOSSIBLE to google and get meaningful results
[14:39] <zaoul1> what is the latest kernel ubuntu is pushing?
[14:40] <matlock> all these questions but no 'pros' to answer
[14:40] <moljac024> zaoul1: /join #xubuntu
[14:40] <Shadow_7> 3.0.0.12-generic seems to be what my bootloader says..
[14:40] <matlock> it's like everyone knowledgable in ubuntu just took a vacation
[14:40] <zaoul1> moljac024: im not asking FOR the latest i am asking what IS the latest
[14:40] <zaoul1> matlock: its just another day in the neighborhood
[14:40] <matlock> not really
[14:40] <perlmonkey> I have just installed kdenlive under Ubuntu 11.10 and tried to start it, and got "Fatal Error - MLT's SDL module not found. Please check your MLT install" I have not been able to find out what this MLT is. Does anyone know?
[14:40] <zaoul1> 1544 people and on average 30 know wtf is going on
[14:41] <matlock> last time i was here, there were like 20-30 people that actually knew what they were talking about
[14:41] <xangua> !info linux | zaoul1
[14:41] <matlock> instead of two people taht just used ubottu triggers
[14:41] <Ibyss> jam2011: In here you ask for support, not The offtopic channel...
[14:41] <xangua> !attitude | matlock
[14:42] <zaoul1> thank you
[14:42] <matlock> you should really only pop that in when there's actually voulanteers helping people
[14:42] <moljac024> zaoul1: i'm sorry it was a misstype
[14:42] <moljac024> i meant to join xubuntu channel, didn't notice i pressed z TAB by mistake
[14:42] <Shadow_7> Is there anyway to set ubuntu to boot to console?  not X?
[14:43] <jam2011> I was installing ubuntu 11.10 (64 bit) on my desktop. At the end of the installation, I got the message that there was a error with the installation of the bootloader and I that I had to do it manually. Now I am stuck as ubuntu is not booting as there is no bootloader. I need help with manually installing the bootloader. I am ready to reinstall 11.10. I am online from my old laptop which I have alongside my desktop now.
[14:43] <xangua> !nox | Shadow_7
[14:44] <Sidewinder1> jam2011, Did you Md5sum the ISO, prior to burning?
[14:44] <Shadow_7> jam2011: you can chroot into the existing install and rerun grub that way...
[14:44] <matlock> heh
[14:45] <matlock> i really don't think you need to chroot
[14:45] <jam2011> Shadow_7 thanks for responding. How can I chroot into the existing install.. can you please explain a bit further
[14:45] <Shadow_7> with extra parms... In my case... multiple HDDs and one is an old IDE...  So I had to put grub on every MBR to solve it..
[14:45] <Shadow_7> there's a webpage with the steps... like 4x or 5x steps...
[14:45] <Shadow_7> mostly mount --bind... then chroot /path
[14:45] <matlock> jam2011, if you boot from your live cd, you can sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair
[14:45] <matlock> then sudo apt-get update
[14:45] <Veedee> hey guys
[14:45] <matlock> then sudo apt-get install boot-repair-ubuntu
[14:46] <Beast> DasEi, Thanks so much, i am back up and running. love it.
[14:46] <matlock> then run that and it'll fix things up
[14:46] <DasEi> !yay|Beast
[14:46] <Veedee> i have a little problem with my network-manager
[14:46] <Shadow_7> and run grub something or other with the --root option specified for the intended disk(s).
[14:46] <matlock> jam2011, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/boot-repair-fix-ubuntu-boot-issues.html   << one option
[14:46] <Veedee> it keeps shuttind down every 30 seconds or so
[14:46] <Beast> this chat forums kick add
[14:46] <Beast> ass*
[14:47] <matlock> http://www.noobslab.com/2011/10/install-grub2-from-live-cdusb-after.html << the chroot method
[14:47] <DasEi> !grub | jam2011
[14:47] <Veedee> so i have to run  "sudo service network-manager restart" every 30 seconds so i can reconnect
[14:47] <DasEi> second link
[14:47] <Shadow_7> 10.10 to 11.04 messed up grub... 11.04 to 11.10 didn't...
[14:48] <matlock> 11.xx messed up everything im
[14:48] <matlock> *imo
[14:48] <KM0201> mateu: only if you stuck w/ Unity.
[14:48] <KM0201> oops.. matlock ^
[14:48] <matlock> yea, true
[14:48] <matlock> still though there's problems deeper than unity
[14:49] <Shadow_7> classic looks is where it's at... but 11.10 seems to have removed the menus to select that.
[14:49] <matlock> example: jockey
[14:49] <Toph2> how do you use a classic ubuntu desktop in 11.10?
[14:49] <matlock> Toph2, install ubuntu-studio
[14:49] <KM0201> matlock: if you branch out beyond "ubuntu" to either xubuntu or lubuntu, you'l probably find 11.10 is quite solid
[14:49] <Sidewinder1> !nounity | Toph
[14:49] <matlock> except i can't install nvidia drivers KM0201
[14:49] <Toph2> matlock,,, thanks
[14:49] <Shadow_7> so in my haste to try out xfce4... My graphics driver suckage...
[14:49] <KM0201> matlock: which nvidia device? mine installed just fine
[14:49] <matlock> KM0201, and there's problems with logging out in
[14:49] <matlock> KM0201, nvidia 9600gsm
[14:50] <KM0201> hmm, did you use the driver from nvidia, or the one in the additional driver manager?
[14:50] <matlock> jockey reports "activated but not in use"
[14:50] <matlock> both
[14:50] <matlock> actually, all three
[14:50] <matlock> trust me, this has been happening since 11.04
[14:50] <matlock> there's a bug report on it that has yet to be resolved
[14:50] <felon> excuss me. i was wondering the easiest way to update my bios, which is HP through ubuntu.
[14:51] <matlock> felon, install windows, use the windows bios update utility
[14:51] <KM0201> matlock: did you try sudo nvidia-xconfig ?
[14:51] <matlock> that doesn't fix the issue that the driver isn't in use
[14:51] <laicool> no
[14:52] <matlock> and yes, i know how to configure my nvidia settings
[14:52] <laicool> can you speak Chinese?
[14:52] <KM0201> matlock: i didn't suggest nvidia-settings was the issue.
[14:52] <tziOm> How do I check what version of a package apt-get will eventually install?
[14:52] <laicool> my English is very poor
[14:52] <xangua> !cn | laicool
[14:53] <matlock> KM0201, bottom line is i gotta wait till 12.04 for this problem to be fixed
[14:53] <DasEi> tziOm: apt-cache show gedit, f.i.
[14:53] <matlock> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-common/+bug/771788
[14:54] <felon> well. im having problems. i have to update the bios cause i had a blue screen in vista, well ever since the bluescreen my sata drives fail detection on boot up. dvdrom and HD's. so i installed ubuntu on a external HD thro my sony 8 gig usb. went out and also bought a sata host controler thinking my sata is screwd. my drive is good i just think the bios are screwd
[14:54] <matlock> >vista
[14:54] <felon> now i have to flash them some how
[14:55] <tziOm> hmm..
[14:55] <Muiterz> morning!
[14:55] <Muiterz> I'm new here
[14:55] <matlock> felon, sounds to me like vista fried something
[14:55] <Muiterz> and new into Ubuntu, just started 3 weeks
[14:55] <felon> it most certainly did
[14:55] <felon> it fucked everything up
[14:55] <joshuap> My mouse keeps not working. Can someone tell me what's up with that?
[14:55] <KM0201> matlock: that says a fix has been released... maybe w/ any luck, it will get uploaded at some point.
[14:55] <matlock> if your sata drives aren't recognized by the bios, you're pretty much screwed and I'm guessing a bios update isn't going to fix it
[14:56] <matlock> KM0201, the fix is to upgrade to 12.04
[14:56] <matlock> please read things
[14:56] <Muiterz> I'm using 11.10, I'm using a quad boot , win xp/win  7/ubuntu 11.10/snow leopard
[14:56] <KM0201> lol, whatever, ok
[14:56] <DasEi> matlock: locked off after driver's install and from tty (no x running)did sudo nvidia-xconfig ? see here : http://askubuntu.com/questions/37590/nvidia-drivers-not-working-after-upgrade-why-can-i-only-see-terminal
[14:56] <Sidewinder1> felon, Does Live CD (ubuntu) run? I would save upgrading firmware in BIOS as a last resort.
[14:56] <Muiterz> how to access my snow leopard partition?
[14:56] <DasEi> logged off*
[14:56] <Muiterz> i can only read
[14:56] <felon> the pci e host controller i bought wrks and picks the dvdrom and HD up
[14:56] <Muiterz> i've installed hfsplus
[14:56] <felon> but it wont run a dvd on boot
[14:57] <felon> tried to start vista even
[14:57] <felon> loads windows then error
[14:57] <felon> i tried reseating the sata drives
[14:57] <felon> switching cables
[14:57] <felon> cleared cmos
[14:57] <felon> everything
[14:57] <FloodBot1> felon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:58] <ksum> felon:what do you get when you go into bios. Does it show drives
[14:58] <matlock> felon, have you tried placing the sata drives in another pc?
[14:58] <matlock> or have you tried placing other drives into this pc?
[14:58] <felon> thx to ubuntu being able to run on external saved me cause then i was able to get everything off the internal hp drive
[14:58] <DasEi> Muiterz: as far as I remember that lacks as linux can't cope with the way mac sets attributes
[14:58] <matlock> also, try removing ALL power
[14:58] <felon> no i dont have another pc using sata
[14:58] <Muiterz> but i should be possible
[14:59] <matlock> i.e. unplug from wall, remove cmos battery, press the power button, let it sit a minute, then replace the battery and replug it in
[14:59] <matlock> and try that way
[14:59] <Muiterz> http://dev-logger.blogspot.com/2010/07/write-access-to-hfs-drive-from-ubuntu.html
[14:59] <matlock> sometimes latent power issues can do conky things
[14:59] <DasEi> Muiterz: have an extra partition both can read ?!
[14:59] <D_Russ> Ok so now tht i have 2 unallocated partitions how to i add them to my 11.10 install to increase its space?
[14:59] <Muiterz> my second hdd has 2 mac os x partitions
[14:59] <D_Russ> muiterz, is that on a mac?
[15:00] <DasEi> Muiterz: no expert on that, hfsplus installed ?
[15:00] <Muiterz> no
[15:00] <Muiterz> yes
[15:00] <Muiterz> no hackintosh
[15:00] <Muiterz> so pavillion windows based pc
[15:00] <D_Russ> where can i find hackintosh
[15:00] <Muiterz> was workin
[15:00] <Muiterz> g
[15:00] <Muiterz> but stupid me updated to 10.6.8
[15:00] <Muiterz> and now i have to change the kernel from mac os
[15:01] <Muiterz> or i have to use an virtual machine
[15:01] <matlock> felon, i just diagnosed a dell with an issue regarding windows and chkdsk and it not fully checking the disk upon boot, i instructed the user to remove all sources of power and let it sit for a minute, problem resolved itself, so try what i suggested above, by removing all power, including the cmos battery and letting it sit for a minute, then replacing the battery and power plug and trying again
[15:01] <Muiterz> but i would like to have write access
[15:01] <D_Russ> Ok so now tht i have 2 unallocated partitions how to i add them to my 11.10 install to increase its space?
[15:01] <Muiterz> hackintosh is a term for a pc which is changed to a mac :P
[15:01] <matlock> felon that happens a lot with me and usb actually, I gotta remove my power sources and let it sit, replug and restart and it works.
[15:02] <DasEi> Muiterz: http://raamdev.com/mounting-hfs-with-write-access-in-debian looks promising, and also you need ownership on mountdir then
[15:02] <Sidewinder1> !enter > Muiterz
[15:02] <Muiterz> sorry
[15:02] <Muiterz> 1 moment
[15:03] <matlock> so, has anyone else been experiencing a problem when they log out or switch users??  my login screen fails to display the user list and the background is all broken up into one inch squares
[15:03] <matlock> i'm suspecting it's because i'm using the experimental video driver but I cannot confirm because i am unable to install the nvidia drivers
[15:03] <DasEi> Muiterz: reading that site, that's missing if you haven't had the mountdir under restricted useraccount/homefolder
[15:04] <shubbar> i m getting dbus error and startup hang ups, this bug specificly https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/811441 ,  will they fix it in an update or do i have to do it manually?
[15:04] <matlock> or if anyone knows how I can take a screenshot of my login screen so i can show people
[15:04] <Gup> Hi.  Just created a new "desktop user" user on my system, but whey they play videos in totem they have no video, just black but the audio is playing.  Do I need to grant them video permissions or something?  Videos play fine when logged in as me.
[15:05] <DasEi> Gup: adduser WhateverNewHere video
[15:05] <joshuap> My mouse keeps not working. Can someone tell me what's up with that?
[15:05] <DasEi> Gup: sudo adduser WhateverNewHere video
[15:06] <joshuap> I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 i386 Linux and my mouse will work after sartup, but when I start a program, it goes out and I can't move the mouse.
[15:06] <Shadow_7> Is it a usb mouse?
[15:06] <joshuap> No.
[15:06] <joshuap> It' a laptop trackpad mouse.
[15:06] <Gup> DasEi, "The user `john' is already a member of `video'."
[15:07] <matlock> ok imma try and take a screenshot of my issue, i'll be back
[15:07] <Shadow_7> any indicators in /var/log/dmesg?  or just dmesg on cli
[15:07] <MochaLatte> I'm trying to reinstall 11.04 over my 11.10 setup. I've got a pen drive with 11.04. However, when I boot from this pen drive, it takes me to the GRUB I typically see when I boot normally (albeit with a different color). I do not know where to go from there... Any suggestions?
[15:07] <joshuap> Should I check?
[15:07] <Shadow_7> it won't solve anything... but it might let you know where to look...
[15:08] <DasEi> Gup: login as the new user and try from terminal, maybe get a hint from there (like vlc blaah.mp4)
[15:08] <mang0> Is there a way to get my screenlets to be viewed on all workspaces? ATM they're just on #1, not #2, #3, or #4... thanks.
[15:08] <Sidewinder1> MochaLatte, Did you adjust your boot-order in BIOS to boot USB, first?
[15:08] <Gup> DasEi, totem from term give no output,  havent tried vlc yet, will do now
[15:09] <tziOm> how do I force an installed application to install again?
[15:09] <tziOm> I do not want to remove..
[15:09] <rafi> newly installed ubuntu 11.10. How do I switch to classic mode?
[15:09] <DasEi> tziOm: sudo apt-get install --reinstall
[15:09] <Shadow_7> tziOm: sudo apt-get -reinstall install <app>
[15:09] <Sidewinder1> !nounity | rafi
[15:09] <tziOm> great, thanks
[15:10] <MochaLatte> Not yet, I've been hitting F11 on startup to go to the boot menu, then selecting the USB drive. I assume this would accomplish the same end?
[15:10] <Shadow_7> or to remove it... my way... sudo dpkg --purge --force-all <app>
[15:10] <rafi> Sidewinder1, how to install gnome shell?
[15:10] <DasEi> tziOm: but if you want config deleted, need to purge it, either apt (dry-run before to see what else (might)get lost) or manually purge config
[15:10] <Sidewinder1> MochaLatte, It's worth a try.
[15:10] <DasEi> !nounity | rafi
[15:11] <Shinoby> Hello, I've bought a Mac Book Pro (2011 edition, not the brand new one) I'm considering using REFIT to install a triple boot, does any of you have tried this ? I read many stuff about problem around that and found no recent tutorial starting with OSX Lion and a recent macbook
[15:11] <Sidewinder1> rafi, Please see the link above, that ubottu gave you ^.
[15:11] <nb-ben> hi :P how do I mount a UFS filesystem?
[15:11] <nb-ben> -t ufs doesn't seem to cut it
[15:11] <matlock> wats wrong with this command?
[15:11] <matlock> sudo sh -c 'sleep 5s; xwd -display :0 -root | convert - screenshot.png
[15:11] <matlock> besides the missing closing '
[15:12] <nb-ben> I understand that I need to us -o ufstype=44ufs for freebsd, but it still doesn't work
[15:12] <DasEi> !iso | nb-ben
[15:12] <sykes> hi guyz, is there a way to extend vlc control panel in fulscreen mode?
[15:13] <zykotick9> DasEi, UFS = Unix File System
[15:13] <DasEi> zykotick9: yes, got it, utf-miss
[15:14] <eoss> Why is it when you block incoming connections for a specific port, but allow outgoing connections, a connection can still be established as incoming packets for that port still need to happen
[15:14] <Shadow_7> matlock: is your X configured for that?  you have that .Xauth issue if you're doing what I think you're doing...
[15:14] <DasEi> nb-ben: idk then , mount tells -t ufs as you stated
[15:15] <gaurav_tablet> empathy is giving me segmentation error i have reinstalled my ubuntu 3 times for that ...how i fix it
[15:15] <DasEi> nb-ben: you tried as root ?
[15:15] <gaurav_tablet> using ubuntu 11.10
[15:15] <MochaLatte> Yeah no luck. I guess I'll try burning a CD
[15:17] <salvatore> hi there
[15:17] <salvatore> i have a question anybody there?
[15:17] <gaurav_tablet> empathy is giving me segmentation error i have reinstalled my ubuntu 3 times for that ...how i fix it i am using ubuntu `11.10
[15:18] <salvatore> i installed ubuntu 10.04 lts on my computer
[15:18] <g0rs> !anybody | salvatore
[15:18] <matlock> can someone tell me what i'm doing wrong??   http://askubuntu.com/questions/43458/how-can-i-take-a-screenshot-of-the-login-screen
[15:18] <matlock> i'm trying to take a screenshot of the login screen
[15:18] <tomodachi> gaurav_tablet: I dont have any real solution for you. But maybe if the problem is in empathy instead of reinstalling ubuntu use another chat client? like pidgin? at least untill the problem is solved
[15:18] <salvatore> when my computer shut down it makes a sound
[15:19] <matlock> but i keep getting "no protocol specified" and "xwd unable to open display :0'
[15:19] <salvatore> like when you turn off hi-fi with high volumes....
[15:19] <salvatore> does it makes sense?
[15:19] <Sidewinder1> MochaLatte, Remember to Md5sum the ISO, prior to burning at the slowest speed possible.
[15:20] <matlock> can someone help me take a screenshot of my login screen?
[15:20] <gaurav_tablet> tomodachi, same problem is arising in bansee also
[15:20] <MochaLatte> Will do, thanks
[15:20] <salvatore> does anybody knows why my ubuntu machine makes this rumor when i shut it down?
[15:21] <Shinoby> salvatore: what kind of rumor ?
[15:21] <Shadow_7> it's an ubuntu feature... You can turn it off... some wikia somewhere with the details..  but it's the default behavior
[15:21] <salvatore> the same that you have if turn off an hifi with high volume
[15:22] <RD> anyone around for a bit of help, decided to update my ubuntu and now it looks like it turned my desktop into the size of a billboard, i can;t see a thing
[15:22] <Sidewinder1> matlock, In my 10.04 Take a Screenshot is found at:  Applications--->Accessories--->Take a Screenshot; sorry, may not help much if you're running a diff. ver.
[15:22] <Gup> DasEi, no real clue there, aprat from mplayer works, but same issue in vlc as totem
[15:22] <Shadow_7> studio monitors will do that regardless... computer independent.
[15:23] <DasEi> Gup: might also lock dmesg/syslog or even strace it, so far no idea here, too
[15:23] <salvatore> the same that you have if turn off an aoudio booster with high volume
[15:23] <DasEi> look*
[15:24] <matlock> can someone instruct me on how to take a screenshot of the login screen?
[15:24] <matlock> an i even still here?
[15:24] <salvatore> does anybody knows why my ubuntu machine makes this rumor when i shut it down? the same that you have if turn off an aoudio booster with high volume
[15:24] <zykotick9> matlock, have you tried logging in and running "gdmflexiserver --xnest" then taking the screenshot of that window?
[15:24] <Sidewinder1> matlock, Yes, still here; sorry I can't help. :-(
[15:24] <matlock> sorry, i had my internet disconnect for a minute
[15:25] <matlock> ** (gdmflexiserver:6590): WARNING **: Not yet implemented
[15:25] <zykotick9> matlock, ah, sorry - guess that feature isn't in Gnome3?
[15:25]  * Sidewinder1 Couldn't take a screenshot of his log-in screen if his life depended on it.
[15:26] <matlock> Sidewinder1, also, i can't do apps>acc>screenshot when i'm at the login screen
[15:26] <MochaLatte> I knew a guy that took a screenshot of his login screen. Ten years later, to the day, hit by a street sweeper. Can't be a coincidence.
[15:26] <Sidewinder1> matlock, You'll need someone alot more knowledgeable than I; sorry
[15:26] <Sidewinder1> Heh,
[15:27] <salvatore> does anybody knows why my ubuntu machine makes this rumor when i shut it down? the same that you have if turn off an aoudio booster with high volume
[15:28] <Neosano> I need russian spellchecker. in synaptic package manager I can see aspell-ru, myspell-ru, irussian, libreoffice-l10n-ru - which one is better? O.o
[15:28] <salvatore> or the same when u force shut down pushing power button
[15:28] <Sidewinder1> matlock, This'll sound totally stupid but, caution to the wind, take a dig. pic with your camera of your log-in screen? It's finally come to this.. :-(
[15:29] <satty> hey guys
[15:29] <matlock> Sidewinder1, yep, seems like it huh
[15:29] <matlock> only problem is now i gotta wait till the problem happens
[15:30] <zykotick9> matlock, perhaps from a VT you could use "import -display :0.0 -window root screenshot.png"?
[15:30] <salvatore> does anybody knows why my ubuntu machine makes this rumor when i shut it down? the same that you have if turn off an aoudio booster with high volume
[15:30] <salvatore> or the same when u force shut down pushing power button
[15:31] <matlock> meh i'll just take a dig pic with my cam
[15:31] <Neosano> I need russian spellchecker. in synaptic package manager I can see aspell-ru, myspell-ru, irussian, libreoffice-l10n-ru - which one is better? O.o
[15:32] <Sidewinder1> matlock, I'm certainly no expert on video but what you've described sounds like artifacts/relics and driver related.
[15:32] <Shadow_7> salvatore: http://blog.websitestyle.com/index.php/2007/01/19/how-to-disable-ubuntu-startup-shutdown-sounds/
[15:32] <haylo-bot> you should do a review and come back and tell us
[15:32] <matlock> so even another reason to go back to 10.xx
[15:32] <matlock> great
[15:32] <matlock> i should have stuck with windows
[15:32] <xangua> Neosano: install russian language in Language Settings
[15:32] <matlock> at least there the drivers 'just work'
[15:32] <Sidewinder1> !who > haylo-bot
[15:33] <satty> how to solve power regression
[15:33] <satty> ubuntu 11.10
[15:34] <matlock> Sidewinder1, most likely, as i'm unable to use any of the nvidia drivers
[15:34] <haylo-bot> Sidewinder1 you should do a review and come back and tell us
[15:34] <Sidewinder1> matlock, Yes, but win brings with itself, it's own 'set' of problems; ot, I know.
[15:34] <matlock> lol
[15:34] <xangua> saw a 'trick' post a few minutes ago satty http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_i915_power&num=1
[15:34] <meowsus> I've got an external drive that automounts each time I boot, and I want it to stop. It's at /dev/sdc and it isn't listed in /etc/fstab. Do you know how this drive might be automounting and how i can stop it?
[15:34] <Sidewinder1> haylo-bot, What shall I review?
[15:34] <xangua> tweak*
[15:34] <zeroplusone> username _m are you in there
[15:34] <haylo-bot> woops wrong person im done talking now
[15:35] <Sidewinder1> haylo-bot, NP.
[15:35] <matlock> also ot question buit why in the hell does ubuntuforums require you to login to view solutions to issues?
[15:35] <xangua> !forums | matlock
[15:35] <Pinchiukas> Which log contains the output of cron jobs?
[15:35] <Sidewinder1> matlock, You should (register) and ask them? :-)
[15:35] <matlock> omg
[15:36] <matlock> i mention a keyword and these nubs are all over the triggers
[15:36] <matlock> im just going to ignore ubottu
[15:36] <matlock> so good luck with the triggers on me
[15:36] <xangua> matlock: please don't and stick to the topic
[15:36] <ikonia> window 22
[15:36] <ikonia> oops
[15:36] <thegladiator> is there a pdf viewer that can change the pdf colors ( not just invert colors ) like Evince does
[15:36] <matlock> did already
[15:37] <TheEvilPhoenix> what lines should i look for in the apt sources for the translation packages?  I'd like to remove the Translation ones
[15:37] <TheEvilPhoenix> s/ones/repos/
[15:38] <salvatore> thanks!
[15:38] <salvatore> but was not that sound
[15:38] <hrolf> What is some good software for burning CDs/DVDs. I have heard some negative reviews about the default CD/DVD burner, Brasero, in Ubuntu. Can suggest an alternative?
[15:38] <Neosano> hrolf, k3b
[15:39] <Shadow_7> too late... but pcspkr module does one too
[15:39] <Neosano> hrolf, also there's Xfburn, very simple and light application
[15:39] <hrolf> Neosano: Okie. Is Brasero really bad?
[15:39] <thegladiator> i cant install kpdf in ubuntu ?
[15:39] <thegladiator> it does not show up in apt
[15:40] <Neosano> hrolf, I have tried it once, didn't meet any problems
[15:40] <llutz_> thegladiator: isn't it dead and was replaced by okular?
[15:40] <xangua> thegladiator: you mean kde documents viewer, Okular¿
[15:40] <thegladiator> Okahy
[15:42] <Sidewinder1> hrolf, The funny thing about Brassero is it gives screwy error messages but burns the CD fine, with no problems; go figure.
[15:43] <m_rk> hi, does anybody know why my mouse right click might have stopped working? it is not due to the mouse, because I have tried replacing the mouse with another
[15:44] <Sidewinder1> hrolf, That's the beauty of FOSS; there's a ton of burning software, at your finger tips, try as many as you want and stick with what works best for you.
[15:44] <meowsus> I've got an external drive that automounts each time I boot, and I want it to stop. It's at /dev/sdc and it isn't listed in /etc/fstab. Do you know how this drive might be automounting and how i can stop it? I'm using LXDE.
[15:44] <xangua> tought it was floss :P
[15:44]  * xangua remember is FOSS, not FLOSS :/
[15:45] <Sidewinder1> Heh,
[15:46] <Shadow_7> meowsus: autofs or udev might be doing that...
[15:48] <meowsus> Shadow_7, it also, randomly, spins up for seemingly no reason... like I'll start a web browser or a new terminal, or just switch windows and it'll spin up, then die down again. It's my backups drive, so I don't want it mounted by default...
[15:49] <meowsus> Shadow_7, I don't have autofs installed, so maybe it's udev
[15:49] <Shadow_7> egrep is your friend...
[15:49] <Shadow_7> could be that dbus / hal / avahi stuff too
[15:50] <pond> try "Storage Divice Manager" ?
[15:50] <gianmarco> ciao a tutti!
[15:51] <Shadow_7> if only unity had a menu to select that from...
[15:52] <matlock> and btw, whoever said something about gnome 3??
[15:52] <matlock> you really need to lrn up on ubuntu
[15:52] <matlock> cause we don't use gnome 3
[15:52] <matlock> 2.32.1
[15:53] <Sidewinder1> !gnome3 > matlock
[15:53] <Sidewinder1> matlock, I thought you'd like that. :P
[15:54] <CountBlue> What terminal command would I use to list all connected USB devices?  I'm trying to identify the device name of my video capture card.
[15:54] <Shadow_7> lsusb
[15:54] <Shadow_7> or usbview
[15:55] <Shadow_7> not normally installed by default though
[15:55] <Shadow_7> dmesg will have connection / driver info on usb stuff too.
[15:55] <xubunturob> Anyone using xubuntu 10.04 having trouble with minitube?
[15:55] <CountBlue> Shadow_7: Thank you.
[15:56] <xangua> xubunturob: add minitube ppa ;)
[15:56] <Shadow_7> matlock: what I read online (haha), ubuntu uses gnome 3... as in you have to hold the alt key now when you right mouse the taskbar...
[15:57] <Shadow_7> And mine has no menus to select from either...  stupid upgrades...
[15:57] <xubunturob> I have ferramroberto's ppa for minitube 1.5 but somehow still have trouble. is there a different ppa other than the one I use?
[15:57] <xangua> xubunturob: already updated minitube from the ppa¿
[15:58] <nb-ben> is there a way to mount a ufs partition (freebsd) with rw permissions on Ubuntu?
[15:58] <xangua> xubunturob: if you have troubles you may need to wait for them to release a new version, you can also use totem or umplayer (mplayer gui) to view youtube videos
[16:00] <xubunturob> @xangua Yeah I have 1.5 but still have trouble with it I can download video with it but I can't watch or here video I just see the progress bar scroll back and forth it's weird.
[16:01] <xubunturob> xangua I will try Totem and umplayer though thanks
[16:02] <Dougie187> I'm trying to get a vpn from inside a chroot to be usable outside of the chroot. But currently the dns lookups outside the chroot don't follow the same route as inside. So I'm curious if anyone know how to make it work how I want.
[16:03] <Dougie187> If you want an explanation of my problem, it can be found here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1872037
[16:03] <Stronze> can anyone put me to a web page to run ubuntu classic like 11.04 had in 11.10?
[16:03] <perlmonkey> could someone tell me what has happened to wine in Ubuntu 11.10? How do you run wine apps now from the menu?
[16:03] <iceroot> !nounity | Stronze
[16:04] <roott> buon giorno a tutti
[16:04] <roott> ho virtualizzato backtrack
[16:05] <zykotick9> Stronze, FYI the fallback mode is only "similar" to Gnome2 - there is no way to turn back the clocks on this one
[16:05] <roott> ma come mai non riesco a vedere la miua interfaccia di rete?
[16:05] <zykotick9> !it | roott
[16:05] <llutz_> !it | roott
[16:05] <roott> i 'm sorry
[16:05] <Stronze> unity needs to die a very ugly death
[16:05] <roott> i think writing in other room
[16:05] <hrolf> I have an .iso which I want to burn and when I open it with Archive Manager, there is a README.txt which says that this contains a UDF file system and requires an OS which supports the UDF file system. What to do?
[16:05] <roott> sorry
[16:06] <zykotick9> Stronze, then stop supporting the distro that's creating it
[16:06] <Dougie187> hrolf: just use brasero
[16:06] <hrolf> Dougie187: I have installed k3b, should I burn it? Will it be written fine?
[16:06] <Dougie187> should be.
[16:06] <hrolf> Dougie187: Why can't I view the files?
[16:07] <Dougie187> Maybe because you don't have the cd mounted? I've never tried to open an iso in archive manager before
[16:07] <nb-ben> how do I change ubuntu kernel modules?
[16:07] <Stronze> zykoticks 9 - after upgrading last night to 11.10, im really thinking about.
[16:08] <llutz_> Stronze: you don'tlike unity? don't use it
[16:08] <xubunturob> hrolf  Have you tried acetoneiso it might allow you to look at you files
[16:08] <TheEvilPhoenix> Stronze:  so use gnomeshell or gnome fallback
[16:08] <TheEvilPhoenix> Stronze:  did you read the ubottu message you were sent?
[16:09] <TheEvilPhoenix> Stronze:  you can even uninstall Unity
[16:09] <Stronze> i tried gnome fallback and it is nothing like ubuntu classic.  trying to find sudo commands for gnome shell
[16:10] <Gentoo64> Stronze: because gnome 3 is different to gnoe 2
[16:10] <Stronze> also gnome fallback only displays apps and places. and i can move my app bar to the bottom
[16:10] <TheEvilPhoenix> ^
[16:10] <Stronze> cant*
[16:10] <Dougie187> Stronze: try kde, or lxde, or any of the other multitude of DE's.
[16:11] <Stronze> id like to get ubuntu 11.10 running the way i prefer before backing all my data and doing a clean install
[16:11] <stoneguy> @search chabon
[16:11] <TheEvilPhoenix> Stronze:  you can install the DEs on top of your Ubuntu
[16:11] <Stronze> really?
[16:11] <TheEvilPhoenix> Stronze:  yarly...
[16:11] <JIMOR> hello world
[16:12] <TheEvilPhoenix> Stronze:  if you want the Kubuntu software and the KDE stuff with it, kubuntu-desktop
[16:12] <TheEvilPhoenix> Stronze:  if you want just KDE, kde-standard
[16:12] <JIMOR>  i have a problem ubuntu 11.10 samba 4 error
[16:12] <TheEvilPhoenix> Stronze:  note though that you might not want KDE :P
[16:12] <auronandace> !gnome2 | Stronze
[16:12] <TheEvilPhoenix> Stronze:  fwiw, i'm running Ubuntu 11.04 with KDE on top of it
[16:12]  * TheEvilPhoenix got pissed at unity one day :P
[16:12] <Stronze> !nounity
[16:13] <xangua> ...
[16:13] <JIMOR> ola alguien me ayuda con una porblema ubuntu 11.10  y samba4
[16:13] <zykotick9> !es | JIMOR
[16:13] <Gentoo64> !language | JIMOR
[16:13] <TheEvilPhoenix> Stronze:  feel free to dump questions to me with my name prepended.
[16:13] <TheEvilPhoenix> i need something to eat, so i shall disappear, but i will return if you have questions
[16:13] <TheEvilPhoenix> :P
[16:14] <Stronze> theevilphoenix checking ubuntu software center for gnome shell
[16:14]  * Sidewinder1 Sighs..
[16:15] <Michiellll> i updated ubuntu on my laptop and asked my father to shut it off when it was done so i could go to bed and he told me afterwards that it had an error message. Where does it keep those?
[16:15] <Gentoo64> Stronze: gnome shell isnt much different to unity
[16:16] <Sidewinder1> Stronze, Another option would be to reinstall 10.04; that's what I use; no unity issues, here. :D
[16:16] <thegladiator> Yes Gnome shell almost looks like Unity
[16:16] <thegladiator> Any one here read pdf but prefers to have color options like in Ipad ?
[16:16] <Stronze> i REALLY do not want to back up data and fresh install but  do, i think ill try kubuntu. it looks nice
[16:17] <thegladiator> The plain black and white is heavy for my eyes
[16:17] <rc> i'm using the latest ubuntu. where can i find the "Keyboard Shortcuts applet"?
[16:17] <V-ille> any guidance on how to build gcc trunk on ia-32, 11.10, with the multiarch environment?
[16:17]  * Sidewinder1 Dreads 12.04 but as Teddy said, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
[16:17] <Gentoo64> Stronze: try it. i cant see kde making major changes to the ui
[16:17] <Dougie187> Stronze: you can just install kde without a fresh install.
[16:17] <Gentoo64> but kde is completely different
[16:17] <thegladiator> Sidewinder1, why so ?
[16:17] <Sidewinder1> unity
[16:18] <thegladiator> hmm yes Unity looks like a filed experiment to me too
[16:18] <Gentoo64> Sidewinder1: 11.04 and 11.10 have unity too though
[16:18] <Shadow_7> since ubuntu doesn't seem to come with a decent pdf reader... I just a2ps and the pdf and then gimp the image of it...
[16:18] <Gentoo64> comes with evince doesnt it?
[16:18] <thegladiator> Is unity still backing up the Unity project ? I used to like the Human login screen , but Ubuntu changed it
[16:18] <tomodachi> Shadow_7: do they support adding text comments to pdfs?
[16:19] <tensorpudding> shadow98, look up Document Viewer
[16:19] <Sidewinder1> Gentoo64, That's why I'm sittin' here, 10.04 happier than a pig wallowin' in slop.
[16:19] <zykotick9> rc, just look for Keyboard - i hear the shortcuts are in there
[16:19] <thegladiator> Evince is there , but the problem with Evince is that we dont have color options , just black and white and inverted
[16:19] <rc> anyone know how i can disable the system F1 and F10 keys (i need them for a terminal program)?
[16:19] <tensorpudding> Shadow_7, look up Document Viewer
[16:19] <Gentoo64> Sidewinder1: youll have to upgrade 1 day lol gnome 2 is dead now
[16:19] <AlicjaCzyliBasia> :D
[16:19] <Shadow_7> Never knew of Evince... just knew xpdf, gpdf, kpdf, .. the usual suspect lacked availability or ability...
[16:19] <Gentoo64> evince is the most common one
[16:20] <Polah> Shadow_7, tried Okular?
[16:20] <thegladiator> Gnome shell doesnt look as impressive bt it could be compiz in my system thats causing havoc
[16:20] <Gentoo64> theres epdfview and zathura too which are lighter
[16:20] <Shadow_7> I've always used xpdf... kpdf or gpdf are always broken or some such...
[16:20] <Sidewinder1> Gentoo64, Yes. I know but that'll be many, many months form now. At which time I'll be here askin' tons-o-questions.
[16:21] <Gentoo64> Sidewinder1: you might as well get used to it sooner than later.. or are you only planning on using lts releases?
[16:21] <Sidewinder1> LTS only. "D
[16:21] <Polah> 12.04 will probably still have Unity...
[16:21] <tony_> bcdsñ
[16:21] <happyface> of course it wil
[16:21] <V-ille> I went for xfce with compiz, gnome 3 or unity or kde4 didn't feel suitable
[16:21] <Gentoo64> i reckon they should ditch it and use gnome shell
[16:21] <Gentoo64> 99% of people hate unity
[16:21] <rc> anyone know where i can find the "keyboard shortcuts applet"?
[16:22] <brontosaurusrex> 10.04 is supported until 13.04?
[16:22] <Shadow_7> I tried going for xfce... but that only broke my video configuration... Now I'm consoling it...
[16:22] <Polah> Then that 99% can use another UI. A lot of people like it, some people don't. Their choice to use it or not, simple.
[16:22] <Gentoo64> but
[16:22] <iceroot> brontosaurusrex: yes (the desktop edition)
[16:22] <Gentoo64> more people than not like it
[16:22] <Stronze> i need to stop hiding under rocks and find out about next releases. i was praying they would kill unity in the 11.10 release so most dont like it
[16:23] <Polah> Then they don't need to use it. Like I said, easy.
[16:23] <tensorpudding> unity isn't going away
[16:23] <Sidewinder1> Polah, You're probably right but, with all of the major complaining that has and IMHO will continue, perhaps the devs will make it a little more intuitive. At least that's my hope.
[16:23] <Shadow_7> It's okay... but the ad icon anoys me... and the general waste of real-estate...
[16:23] <V-ille> the current environments don't feel right for keyboard navigation
[16:23] <tensorpudding> i think they should include gnome-shell in the default install
[16:23] <brontosaurusrex> so there you go, happy until 2013 and at that date unity will either improve drastically or die, or maybe mankind will change to approve it, either way a win :P
[16:23] <tensorpudding> but whatevs, it's just a download away
[16:23] <Polah> Unity more intuitive? Probably, it has only been around for a year (including development probably), it' still not finished
[16:24] <Stronze> i loved ubuntu classic option. i like a simple desktop with nothing fancy.
[16:24] <Gentoo64> i just think that because most users hate it, unity should be a download instead of gnome shell
[16:24] <Sidewinder1> brontosaurusrex, I'm with 'ya.
[16:24] <nb-ben> how do I run a kernel update on Ubuntu?
[16:24] <nb-ben> (no ui)
[16:24] <rc> midnight commander uses the F1 and F10 keys, but the system (i assume gnome) as taken over those bindings...
[16:24] <iceroot> nb-ben: security-update or major update?
[16:24] <goshawk> i really like unity
[16:24] <Sidewinder1> Stronze, If that's the case, why not go back to 10.04?
[16:24] <nb-ben> iceroot: major, I suppose
[16:24] <Gentoo64> is there much point at this date?
[16:24] <tensorpudding> F1 isn't used by GNOME
[16:24] <Stronze> sidewinder - i REALLY dont want fresh install
[16:25] <Gentoo64> 10.04 is old
[16:25] <nb-ben> iceroot: i want the newest
[16:25] <iceroot> nb-ben: why?
[16:25] <Shadow_7> I like having cpu and net meters in my task bar... lets me know when things have gone awry...  Unity doesn't seem to have those...
[16:25] <tensorpudding> it's use by a lot of programs though, for Help
[16:25] <goshawk> nb-ben, sudo apt-get install linux-image-VERSION YOU WANT
[16:25] <Polah> Gentoo64, a lot of people like it, Canonical supports it's use. They can get Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Lubuntu and avoid Unity altogether if they want those instead.
[16:25] <nb-ben> iceroot: i need to mount a ufs partition, and I think my kenel is too old for it
[16:25] <tensorpudding> F10 is bound by Unity for some silly thing related to menus
[16:25] <iceroot> goshawk: there is only one kernel in the repos
[16:25] <Sidewinder1> Stronze, Desktop version will be supported until 04/2013
[16:25] <x_> you can remove unity/ from 10.10 and install whichever one you want also.
[16:25] <goshawk> nb-ben, which version are u using_
[16:25] <goshawk> ?
[16:25] <iceroot> nb-ben: you can use backports, find a repo (ppa) with a newer kernel or build it from source
[16:26] <iceroot> !backports | nb-ben
[16:26] <goshawk> iceroot, yeah, one version but different revisions
[16:26] <Stronze> sidewinder im checking out lxde. it seems the type of desktop enviroment i like
[16:26] <RobertV> anyone else figured out how to re-map the F10 key?
[16:26] <Sidewinder1> Stronze, Well, then, there you are. :-)
[16:26] <llutz_> x_: there is no unity on 10.10 by default
[16:26] <nb-ben> 2.6.22 on andLinux (using it to mount parts on Windows)
[16:26] <tony_> hi
[16:26] <nb-ben> (and then access through SMB)
[16:26] <x_> RobertV, you need to make a ~/.Xmodmap file
[16:26] <iceroot> nb-ben: that is not ubuntu
[16:26] <Gentoo64> nb-ben: what release has that kernel
[16:26] <iceroot> nb-ben: and not supported here
[16:26] <mang0> I closed thunderbird from the menu buttons, but now if I try to open it i get an error telling me taht it's already open. How can I shut down the process tree of thunderbird and then stop this happing in future?
[16:27] <smw> x_, 11.10 is the first one  where you can't use the old gnome
[16:27] <nb-ben> it's andLinux ( a coLinux fork )
[16:27] <Stronze> reboot
[16:27] <nb-ben> and it's running Ubuntu on it
[16:27] <iceroot> nb-ben: not supported here
[16:27] <Sidewinder1> Stronze, You might also look at Xfce.
[16:27] <x_> llutz, I meant 11.10
[16:27] <tony_> y
[16:27] <xangua> mang0: use control+q ¿
[16:27] <nb-ben> iceroot: it's a fully functioning Ubuntu, I could install ubuntu on it without any modification
[16:27] <Shadow_7> mang0: the simple answer... reboot... or open a term... use ps to find the pid... use kill -9 pid to kill it... or killall appname... or other ways...
[16:27] <mang0> xangua: Thunderbird isn't open. Ubuntu just thinks it is
[16:27] <nb-ben> iceroot: it's like running it under virtualbox
[16:27] <goshawk> nb-ben, ok which ubuntu version_
[16:27] <goshawk> ?
[16:27] <Shadow_7> old school task manager.
[16:28] <mang0> Shadow_7: killall thudnerbird sounds good
[16:28]  * mang0 trys
[16:28] <smw> Sidewinder1, I tried xfce and it is amazing how much better it is than a year ago. I forget I am not using gnome2 :-).
[16:28] <gabriel_> hola
[16:28] <xangua> mang0: already check in the message indicator¿ (envelope)
[16:28] <x_> RobertV, xmodmap -pke > ~/.Xmodmap
[16:28] <nb-ben> goshawk: how do I check that
[16:28] <iceroot> nb-ben: but the kernel is coming from the host? and not from the vm?
[16:28] <goshawk> nb-ben, lsb-release -a
[16:28] <mang0> xangua: I don't use the msg envelope
[16:28] <iceroot> nb-ben: like xen?
[16:28] <Shadow_7> mang0: you might still need ps to find it's true name... thunderbird-bin or other nonsense
[16:28] <Michiellll> i updated ubuntu on my laptop and asked my father to shut it off when it was done so i could go to bed and he told me afterwards that it had an error message. Where does it keep those logs?
[16:28] <goshawk> nb-ben, lsb_release -a
[16:28] <goshawk> with _ instead of -
[16:28] <nb-ben> iceroot: I suppose, but natively running on Windows... it's not the same like those kind of virtualizations
[16:28] <Sidewinder1> smw, That's why I suggested it to him/her but I think he went off to reboot and missed it. :-(
[16:29] <toniypedro>  cf
[16:29] <zykotick9> Shadow_7, using -9 right away can lead to issues, you should recommend a regular "kill PIDNUMBER" first, before using a nuclear attack
[16:29] <mang0> Shadow_7, ps just gives me two entries....
[16:29] <mang0> ps and bash
[16:29] <toniypedro> hi
[16:29] <goshawk> iceroot, it's a paravirtualizzation method
[16:29] <iceroot> nb-ben: that is an important thing if you want to update the kernel
[16:29] <zykotick9> mang0, try "ps aux"
[16:29] <Shadow_7> ps -Al
[16:29] <Shadow_7> or ps fuwax
[16:29] <llutz_> mang0: pgrep thunder
[16:30] <toniypedro> i have a problem whit compix please help
[16:30] <nb-ben> waiting on lsb_release
[16:30] <x_> or ps die die die
[16:30] <x_> :-)
[16:30] <llutz_> mang0: pkill thunderb
[16:30] <goshawk> nb-ben, it's slow. mine return in less than one sec
[16:30] <mang0> llutz_: pgrep thunder didn't do anything...
[16:30] <nb-ben> goshawk: i know, no idea why that is though
[16:30] <llutz_> mang0: so its not running
[16:31] <toniypedro> i have install ubuntu 11.  and now i cannot
[16:31] <Shadow_7> normally if I need to use kill -9... it's far beyond needing a nuclear attack...
[16:31] <RD> anyone around to help me with a display issue by chance, upgraded to new distro, and it seems to have made myresolution large enough to fit on a billboard, and i cannot see anything
[16:31] <mang0> llutz_: Aha! I shut it with killall thunderbird
[16:31] <toniypedro> see the menu i only see the desktop
[16:31] <mang0> Thanks llutz_, xangua, Shadow_7 :)
[16:31] <goshawk> nb-ben, in general you can find kernel packages easily from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[16:31] <nb-ben> ubuntu 9.04 jaunty
[16:31] <goshawk> nb-ben, but be careful, u can break easily your system
[16:31] <nb-ben> that's what it says
[16:32] <goshawk> nb-ben, it's very old
[16:32] <goshawk> consider of update to a newest version
[16:32] <goshawk> *to
[16:32] <nb-ben> idc about breaking it, I don't actually store anything in it
[16:32] <Sidewinder1> !nounity | toniypedro
[16:32] <nb-ben> I store it in what used to be an ext3 partition (which now was changed to UFS)
[16:33] <nb-ben> I am beginning to think NTFS is the most universal fs to do this for lol
[16:33] <evon> Anyone know of any hardware diagnostic utilities?  I would like to test if an HD attached to my system still work properly.
[16:33] <nb-ben> s/for/with *
[16:33] <goshawk> nb-ben, i suggest u to update do at least 2.6.35-37
[16:33] <toniypedro> i try the command line unity-reset
[16:33] <xangua> nb-ben: neither andlinux and 9.04 are supported here
[16:33] <Shadow_7> haha... sessions dropdown... when I upgraded... those things went completely away...  thought they switched to plan 9 or something
[16:33] <Sidewinder1> evon, How 'bout Disk Utility?
[16:33] <toniypedro> please
[16:33] <nb-ben> goshawk: is there a way for me to do that?
[16:33] <nb-ben> goshawk: in a command, I mean
  Is that preinstalled in Ubuntu?
[16:34] <goshawk> nb-ben, pvt, it seems that people don't like old ubuntu discussions here
[16:34] <xangua> toniypedro: did you disabled the unity plugin on compiz settings¿
[16:34] <nb-ben> alright
[16:35] <Sidewinder1> evon, It is/was in my 10.04: System-->Administration-->Disk Utility.
 ok I am running it now and I am doing some benchmarks on it.  But will this tell me if the drive is faulty or not?
[16:35] <Sidewinder1> evon, It should.
[16:36] <Sidewinder1> evon, As well as a wealth of other info..
[16:37] <rabbi1> how to reset my rhythmbox ?
[16:37] <Sidewinder1> reset?
[16:37] <goshawk> rabbi1, install from software center
  Well i just did a read test and it came back fine but it can't do a read/write test because the drive has to be empty. are there any other tests?
[16:37] <goshawk> rabbi1, i understood that you want rythmbox instead of banshee
[16:38] <rabbi1> goshawk: i got RB, but its hung,  how to reset from the terminal ?
[16:38] <goshawk> RB?
[16:38] <xangua> rabbi1: pkill rhythmbox ¿
[16:39] <rabbi1> xangua: but can't find the process when i hit "top" in the terminal
[16:39] <Sidewinder1> evon, Within Disk Utility, did you click on Smart Data?
[16:39] <xangua> (10:38:52) goshawk: RB? - rabbi1: no one is charging you for letter ;)
[16:39] <pippo_69> salve a tutti
[16:39] <xangua> letters*
[16:39] <Sidewinder1> evon, If not, please try that.
[16:39] <pippo_69> !list
[16:39] <rabbi1> xangua: :) ha ha rhythmbox
[16:39] <jacob4815162342> how can I share my screen on ubuntu?
[16:39] <goshawk> xangua, :)
[16:39] <ePirat> I've a problem, after updating to new ubuntu version i can't boot anymore
[16:39] <Sidewinder1> !it | pippo_69
[16:40] <rabbi1> thanks guys
  I don't see anything that says smart data.  However I did install another program that gives me that info and the HD self-diag. tells me everything is fine
[16:40] <jacob4815162342> I mean, as a remote desktop
[16:41] <Sidewinder1> evon, Cool!
  So it's safe to assume then that the HD is good to go?
[16:42] <Sidewinder1> evon, Sounds like it; I'm a little confused why you didn't see the Smart Data to click on; 'tis certainly on mine.
[16:43] <scorpio1497> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/faenza-icons-mono_1.0_i386.deb: subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 2
[16:43] <scorpio1497> could someone help me with this problem?
  Yeah i don't know either
  thanks for the help
[16:44] <Sidewinder1> evon, My pleasure. :-)
[16:46] <Parameter> does anyone happen to know if there is a way to monitor I/O activity pertaining character special files such as /dev/ttyUSB0?
[16:47] <Mahmoud> damn. where does "ca-certificates" install its ca files?
[16:48] <llutz_> Mahmoud: dpkg -L ca-certificates
[16:48] <theadmin> Mahmoud: dpkg -L ca-certificates # will give you a full list of files in the package
[16:49] <steve__> hello?
[16:50] <steve__> wondering if someone can help me out
[16:50] <Sidewinder1> !ask
[16:50] <theadmin> steve__: ^ that
[16:50] <steve__> lol
[16:51] <Sidewinder1> :D
[16:51] <ethicalhack> hello i need some help with my Ubuntu pls
[16:51] <theadmin> ethicalhack: Help with what? Details, please, details
[16:51] <Sidewinder1> !ask | ethicalhack
[16:52] <oliphant> hi, why is it that when I start firefox in Ubuntu I get a blanco page while I have set goole in preferences? Can anybody tell me this?
[16:52] <steve__> ok kool, well i have a few problems, i basically linux noob, i have searched thread after thread on basically customisation with ubuntu 10.4, first off i managed new splash screen but i see it for about 2 seconds the rest of the time its black screen a bit like the command line
[16:52] <ethicalhack> i need to make sure that i have closed all unecessary ports and what the commands are, so that even if someone tries to nmap my ip, they wont get any open ports
[16:52] <theadmin> ethicalhack: They won't get any listening ports, true enough, however closing ports makes no real sense...
[16:52] <llutz_> ethicalhack: netstat -tulepn
[16:53] <shock99er> hi everybody!
[16:53] <oliphant> hi shock99er
[16:54] <ethicalhack> how come
[16:54] <ethicalhack> ok
[16:54] <amro> still experiencing bug #811441 on a fresh install after a first reboot, tried all the suggested fixes and none work. any ideas?
[16:54] <ePirat> how do i copy my home directory to a external HDD using SSH?
[16:54] <shock99er> can anyone give me some help with a failing USB drive?
[16:54] <negev> hi, im trying to run "top -n1" from crontab but it fails because it can't attach to a tty. anyone know a way around this?
[16:54] <llutz_> ePirat: cp -ax /home/whoever /mnt/yourhdd
[16:54] <theadmin> negev: Redirect the output to a file.
[16:55] <edgy> W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com oneiric Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[16:55] <edgy> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com oneiric Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192 Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[16:55] <theadmin> negev: I suppose, if that can even be done with top
[16:55] <FloodBot1> edgy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:55] <llutz_> negev: top -b
[16:55] <E_Roc> I have a problem with my HTML coding homework.
[16:55] <ePirat> llutz_, how i discover what i have to put there for yourhdd ?
[16:55] <shock99er> I tried lsusb but received no detection
[16:55] <ethicalhack> where can i find the C header files that match your running kernel?
[16:55] <edgy> sorry I thought two lines are normal ;)
[16:55] <E_Roc> Is there anyone here who can give me some advice as to whats wrong?
[16:55] <ethicalhack> my*
[16:55] <llutz_> ePirat: "mount" tells you what is mounted where
[16:56] <negev> llutz_: thanks :)
[16:56] <zykotick9> llutz, not if it's being mounted by gnome :(
[16:56] <llutz_> ethicalhack: i guess we are not supposed to do your homework
[16:57] <xangua> !gpgerr | edgy
[16:57] <ethicalhack> im trying to install a vmware server ,but i get that message
[16:57] <E_Roc> ok, have a nice day
[16:57] <E_Roc> Anyone else?
[16:58] <shock99er> fdisk -l does not detect it either..
[16:58] <steve__> can someone kind of train me please?  i have a few problems, im basically a linux noob, i have searched thread after thread on basically customisation with ubuntu 10.4, first off i managed new splash screen but i see it for about 2 seconds the rest of the time its black screen a bit like the command line
[16:58] <llutz_> ethicalhack: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[16:58] <zykotick9> E_Roc, HTML homework is not ontopic in this channel
[16:58] <ethicalhack> nice ,thanks
[16:58] <E_Roc> Can you please, direct me to a channel that is?
[16:58] <llutz_> ethicalhack: dpkg -L linux-headers-$(uname -r)  if your really need the path
[16:59] <edgy> xangua: sorry but the error is mentioning extra.ubuntu.com and this is not something I added, it's an official, no?
[16:59] <E_Roc> Or at least tell me how to find one?
[16:59] <zykotick9> steve__, plymouth (the splash screen) was buggy in 10.04 especially with proprietary drivers...
[16:59] <theadmin> E_Roc: You can PM me.
[17:00] <gr33n7007h> steve__, is it the grub splash screen?
[17:00] <steve__> zyk do u know alot about linux? i cud use a patient brain to pik in pm?
[17:00] <steve__> i don't know what grub is lol
[17:00] <GinoMan> ok.... for some reason, ubuntu treates my external keyboard differently than my laptop keyboard
[17:00] <shock99er> can anyone help me with my usb drive?
[17:00] <lolzer> what does it mean to allow indexes in apache configuration??
[17:00] <GinoMan> it won't let it ctrl+alt+del ctrl+alt+bksp or ctrl+alt+F#
[17:00] <brontosaurusrex> E_Roc, #html ?
[17:01] <shock99er> I tried lsusb but received no detection
[17:01] <shock99er> fdisk -l does not detect it either..
[17:01] <shock99er> I worked before a couple of days ago
[17:02] <gr33n7007h> grub is the bootloader for linux
[17:02] <Pinchiukas> Which log contains the output of cron jobs?
[17:02] <steve__> then dont i have to use it? .. lol can we pm or something?
[17:02] <brontosaurusrex> lolzer, showing folders with files, the index is apache generated
[17:03] <ePirat> llutz_, hm, this doesn't helped a lot… there are only some strange "none on /sys/kernel" things...
[17:03] <brontosaurusrex> lolzer, the usual behaviour is to generate one if no index.html is found
[17:03] <lolzer> brontosaurusrex,  do you mean  the page has no index.html??
[17:03] <brontosaurusrex> exactly
[17:04] <llutz_> ePirat: how did you attach the usb-hdd?
[17:04] <ePirat> what?
[17:04] <shock99er> maybe you're talking to me ;)
[17:04] <llutz_> ePirat: or wait, you want to copy remote /home to a local attached hDD?
[17:05] <lolzer> brontosaurusrex," They keep everything open and allow indexes in their Apache configuration" from the social network film ... is this possible??
[17:05] <ePirat> llutz_, i am now physically on the machine, hdd is attached to it, i opened now shell with stag + F1 (cause everything is broken and UI stopped working) and want to backup my data...
[17:05] <keri> i have ubuntu 10.04 and Iphone 4 iso 5.0.  I need help getting them to sync
[17:06] <llutz_> ePirat: and how is ssh involded there?
[17:06] <llutz_> involved
[17:06] <ePirat> i tried doing it via ssh before (because UI doesn't work)
[17:06] <lolzer> brontosaurusrex,  if you want to take a look "http://www.williamegan.ie/blog/2010/original-markzuckerberg-drunken-blog-posts-from-the-night-of-facemash/"
[17:06] <evon> keri. i don't have one but I've see plugins for Exaile for Iphones
[17:06] <llutz_> ePirat: still "mount" to get the mountpoint
[17:07] <evon> keri. unforunately that's about all the help i can give sorry ;-)
[17:07] <steve__> can i have a private message with a pro please i'm a linux noob
[17:07] <ePirat> yes but i don't get anything helpful using mount, doesn't show up the hdd...
[17:07] <meadhikari> Any one knows where I can find libtorrent.py
[17:07] <K4k> Has anyone here had luck getting the Intel 4 series gfx chipset working with HDMI output in 11.10? It detects VGA and DVI just fine but my TV shows no signal on HDMI
[17:07] <xangua> !pm | steve__
[17:08] <zykotick9> ePirat, you could use "mount | grep sd" to only see Hard disks listed
[17:08] <llutz_> ePirat: "sudo fdisk -l"
[17:08] <keri> i have google it and http://askubuntu.com/questions/994/can-i-sync-with-my-iphone-4-and-ipad and i did this and no luck.  when i plug iphone it does nothing
[17:08] <xangua> keri: better downgrade to iOS 4 ;) or upgrade to latest ubuntu 11.10
[17:08] <llutz_> ePirat: most likely its /dev/sdb or sdc, so "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt"
[17:08] <keri> ok i can upgreade up
[17:09] <keri> i not sure how to down grade on iphone without itunes
[17:09] <steve__> ok how do i stop ubuntu 10.4 showing command line instead of my splash screen?
[17:10] <keri> mu update manger don't show 11.10 how do i get it
[17:11] <zykotick9> keri, upgrading from 10.04LTS would require 10.04->10.10->11.04->11.10 - are you SURE you want to upgrade?
[17:11] <keri> i want to sync my iphone.  if i don't have to upgrade it would be great
[17:12] <K4k> Has anyone here had luck getting the Intel 4 series gfx chipset working with HDMI output in 11.10? It detects VGA and DVI just fine but my TV shows no signal on HDMI
[17:12] <ePirat> llutz_, I get WARNING: GTP (GUID Partition Table) detected on /dev/sdc! The until frisk doesn't support GPT, Use GNU Parted
[17:12] <petisnnake> Hi, I have Ubuntu 10.04 and a Geforce 460gtx. Any ideas why my os doesn't find any proprietary drivers for my gpu automatically?
[17:13] <llutz_> ePirat: try "sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt"
[17:13] <keri> i got my iphone using straight talk and Wed I am goin to jailbreak it and it is legal to do.  so i have left is to sync.... zykotick9 can you help me sync my iphone 4 with ubuntu 10.04 without grading?
[17:13] <ePirat> llutz_, ok and now?
[17:14] <llutz_> ePirat: any error
[17:14] <zykotick9> keri, sorry i don't go near Apple issues - good luck
[17:14] <llutz_> ?
[17:14] <keri> dang
[17:14] <steve__> how do i stop ubuntu 10.4 showing command line instead of my splash screen? or change my login screen
[17:14] <edbian> steve__: Does it show the splash screen at all during boot?
[17:14] <llutz_> ePirat: "cp -ax /home/you /mnt"  to copy
[17:15] <happyface> steve__, silent mode in grub
[17:15] <zykotick9> steve__, why does Splash or Login matter?  You see them for line a minute.  It's a lot of work to fix either of your "issues".  Good luck.
[17:15] <zykotick9> s/line/like/
[17:15] <steve__> i see it for about 2 seconds thats all and i don't anything about grub happyface
[17:15] <zykotick9> happyface, steve__ does see plymouth for a second, so it's not silent in grub
[17:16] <Michiellll> heh i have ubuntu on my laptop and updated it but it had an error and is fucked up now.... i didn't see it since my dad shut it off, any idea's where it keeps the logs?
[17:16] <steve__> zyk i hate not having customised things on comps
[17:16] <edbian> steve__: Please use my name if you're talking to me
[17:16] <steve__> ok sorry edbian
[17:16] <zykotick9> steve__, lol and your switching to Ubuntu - that's funny
[17:16] <edbian> steve__: that's ok
[17:16] <steve__> zykotick9 i had vista.. can u blame me?
[17:16] <toumbo> Hi!!Anyone knows how to make dash home be always on top of other applicationsq
[17:17] <zykotick9> steve__, umm, ya that would be an improvement then.
[17:17] <ePirat> llutz_, i get a lot of "The operation is not allowed" errors while copying
[17:17] <ia9371> where can i find documentation online for Ubuntu?!
[17:17] <ia9371> i mean ubuntu server 11
[17:17] <meta-coder> http://www.spielzeugz.de/html5/sticky-thing/  <- Addictive and sticky HTML5 experiment
[17:18] <steve__> i was basically told to get linux and this was the easiest to use lol so any help would be great i can't work it at all
[17:18] <llutz_> ePirat: ctrl-c   to stop. what filesystem on hdd?
[17:18] <ia9371> im llookin for llike official ubuntu documentation
[17:18] <ia9371> ununtu serve
[17:18] <zykotick9> ia9371, well here is some quasi-official stuff https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Servers
[17:19] <ia9371> i found it
[17:19] <ia9371> thank
[17:19] <CodeWar> I messed with compiz under Unity and now its completely un-usable .. unity --reset, didn't help, any suggestions
[17:21] <[fields]> had Ubuntu & Windows... removed Ubuntu partition... everything has been fine for a week until I rebooted and got "grub rescue>" no filesystem message.  I put in an Ubuntu thumbdrive to get an OS up, and can see all the data on the HDD, I plugged in an external 1TB HDD and can see the data on it, but why can't I create a folder and begin to backup/copy files?
[17:21] <llutz_> ePirat: mount |grep sdc1           what filesystem does it show?
[17:21] <steve__> ok failing that then is there a better linux os that is straight forward or has a program that will change it all for me?
[17:21] <toumbo> CodeWar enter ubuntu with gnome shell and with compiz comfig manager make a tick to the unity plugin
[17:22] <jasox> I am having problem with lag on ubuntu 11.10 (fglrx driver)
[17:22] <gr33n7007h> steve__, sudo nano /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme
[17:22] <ePirat> llutz_, how i make the | ? (keyboard layout is not german anymore so I don't know)
[17:22] <danslo> jasox: welcome to ATI on linux
[17:22] <jasox> :(
[17:22] <gr33n7007h> WALLPAPER=/path/to/you/picture
[17:22] <edbian> [fields]: You probably can as root
[17:23] <jasox> danslo, what is best solution
[17:23] <[fields]> edbian:  decent idea, I am running on thumbdrive.  I don't know how to access these windows partitions by terminal.
[17:23] <llutz_> ePirat: just type "mount" and watch the line containing sdc1
[17:23] <jasox> danslo, delete fglrx ? :S
[17:23] <danslo> jasox: to be honest, I've had more success just getting rid of fglrx, but that's me
[17:23] <ePirat> vfat (rw)
[17:23] <edbian> [fields]: gksudo nautilus will probably help :)
[17:23] <ePirat> llutz_
[17:24] <steve__> gr33n7007h i just did that just came up with loadsa crap in the terminal what do i do
[17:24] <danslo> jasox: actually, the 'real' solution is to get an nvidia card and never look back :P
[17:24] <jasox> danslo, no more cube 2 sauerbraten on ubuntu
[17:24] <mojo706> hello anyone had a problem with installing Ubuntu One after upgrading to 11.10?
[17:24] <llutz_> ePirat: then you'll have to tar the files to preserve permissions etc. "sudo tar --one-file-system -cvf /mnt/home-backup.tar /home/user"
[17:24] <jasox> danslo, :D
[17:24] <gr33n7007h> where it says WALLPAPER change it to the path where your picture you want to use
[17:24] <[fields]> edbian:  all those words mean slight something to me.  But honestly I don't have a clue what you just said.  I just want to create a folder and drag & drop important files.
[17:25] <[fields]> i don
[17:25] <[fields]> I don't want to lose my porn
[17:25] <edbian> [fields]: gksduo nautilus (is a command) opens a nautilus GUI window as root.  Careful with it!
[17:25] <edbian> [
[17:25] <steve__> it doesnt say wallpaper anywhere jut got this ---------   GNU nano 2.2.2        File: /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme
[17:25] <steve__> else
[17:25] <steve__> EOF
[17:25] <steve__> fi
[17:25] <steve__> # otherwise, set a monochromatic theme for Ubuntu
[17:25] <FloodBot1> steve__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:25] <steve__> if ${use_bg} ; then
[17:25] <edbian> [fields]: open a terminal, type 'gksudo nautilus' without quotes, press enter, use that window to copy / paste whatever wherever
[17:26] <ePirat> llutz_, […] FAT: Directory bread(block 6334) failed
[17:26] <steve__> s
[17:26] <llutz_> ePirat: never seen, i have no idea what that means.
[17:26] <ePirat> tra: /mnt/home-backup.tar: Kann open nicht ausführen: Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler
[17:26] <ePirat> *tar
[17:26] <ePirat> Inout Output error
[17:27] <[fields]> edbian:  THANK YOU!!  YOU SAVED THE PORN!
[17:27] <edbian> [fields]: sure
[17:27] <steve__> never mind i'll have to search the thread again i suppoe
[17:27] <ePirat> the Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[17:27] <toumbo> Savior of porn!! Trollolol
[17:27] <edbian> [fields]: I'm thinking now the permissions are wrong on the copied version of the files.  Are you able to mv / cp / delete the files without using that special root nautilus window?
[17:28] <llutz_> ePirat: seems your system dislikes the external hdd, or the filesystem is broken ... or.. whatever
[17:28] <rrva> hi! I was upgrading to oneiric and accidentally answered no on question to replace /etc/init/networking.conf. How to get the oneiric version of that file? I tried apt-get --reinstall install
[17:28] <rrva> I also tried dpkg-reconfigure ifupdown
[17:28] <ePirat> ah works now
[17:28] <llutz_> ePirat: haeh, how comes?
[17:28] <ePirat> oh wait… only a bit...
[17:28] <ePirat> weird
[17:29] <ePirat> Only wrote 6144 of 10240 Bytes
[17:29] <llutz_> ePirat: sounds not like a working backup
[17:29] <ePirat> and again the Error is not recoverable...
[17:29] <CodeWar> toumbo, thanks that helped
[17:30] <toumbo> CodeWar :D
[17:31] <llutz_> ePirat: "df -h /" does it have enough free to take a copy of your /home?
[17:32] <llutz_> ePirat: same for "df -h /mnt"
[17:32] <skore> yeah just joined linux family
[17:33] <skore> my firs ubuntu
[17:33] <jasox> skore, welcome
[17:33] <rtyuio> hello there
[17:33] <skore> thx
[17:33] <rtyuio> what type of cable we need to connect between 2 router  ?
[17:34] <llutz_> rtyuio: cat5/6 straight
[17:34] <rtyuio> let me check llutz
[17:34] <ePirat> llutz_, / 17G Used, 88G Avail
[17:35] <llutz_> ePirat: and /mnt?
[17:35] <ePirat> llutz_ /mnt 197M used, 2.5K Avail
[17:35] <ePirat> thats weird
[17:35] <llutz_> ePirat ahhh, full it is
[17:35] <ePirat> it is a 1TB drive
[17:35] <llutz_> ePirat: not recognized correctly
[17:35] <ePirat> oh
[17:35] <skore> guys how can i delelte and create new evolution mail profile? please pm
[17:36] <toumbo> What have to do to make my home dash appear always on top?
[17:36] <ePirat> llutz_, what can i do?
[17:36] <ePirat> llutz_, maybe format the whole hdd?
[17:36] <llutz_> ePirat: "sudo parted -l"
[17:36] <RD> ok, so have decided to fix my resolution going to command line, is there a way to get to command line before resolution is set so i can see what i am doing, if not, going with a bootable cd that i can edit manyaly the file for it, what is a good cd bootable linux distro ?
[17:37] <llutz_> ePirat: does it list more than sdc1 for your external drive?
[17:37] <Waceman> nVidia Legacy driver issues. Installed 71xx from nVidia website as this was the only pack which supports my GeForce 256 DDR. When my Ubuntu 10.04 reboots, screen flashes and gives error:
[17:37] <Waceman> (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
[17:37] <Waceman> (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (loader failed, 7)
[17:37] <ePirat> llutz_, yes
[17:37] <llutz_> ePirat: anything bigger than 200MB?
[17:38] <awanti> how to setup local repository.
[17:38] <xangua> !offline | awanti
[17:38] <ePirat> Daten with 800GB
[17:38] <ePirat> and Apple_HFS_Untitled_2 199 GB
[17:38] <awanti> yes
[17:39] <llutz_> ePirat: 800GB = /dev/sdc2? then: sudo umount /mnt && sudo mount /dev/sdc2 /mnt
[17:39] <zykotick9> awanti, depending on what you want to do, check out apt-cacher or apt-cacher-ng (if you have multiple computers locally, that you want to feed updates to)
[17:40] <ePirat> 800GB = /dev/sdc, llutz_
[17:40] <awanti> because i am having 10 ubuntu machines. 1 pc is connected to the internet, remaining pcs are connected locally
[17:40] <edibert> error: incompatible licence
[17:40] <edibert> grub rescue>
[17:40] <edibert> Anyone can help me how to fix this?
[17:40] <llutz_> ePirat: can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" please
[17:40] <llutz_> !paste | ePirat
[17:41] <ePirat> llutz_, I'll make a photo, now wy to copy paste atm
[17:41] <awanti> yes <zykotick9> i want to feed updates to local computers
[17:42] <llutz_> ePirat: shorter: does it really don't show a number in front of "Daten .. 800GB" row "Anzahl" ?
[17:42] <zykotick9> awanti, so apt-cacher would be an easy way to create a local mirror then
[17:43] <ePirat> llutz_, it does: 1 - EFI System Partition; 2- Apple_HFS_Untitled_2; 3- Recovery HD; 4 - Daten
[17:43] <awanti> do you have any good docs or any links, so that i can refer
[17:43] <llutz_> ePirat: here we are, its "/dev/sdc4" then
[17:44] <edibert> ePirat: can I ask you somethig?
[17:44] <llutz_> ePirat: thats a MAC HDD?
[17:44] <ePirat> it is
[17:44] <llutz_> ePirat: last attepmt: sudo umount /mnt && sudo mount /dev/sdc4 /mnt
[17:45] <ePirat> llutz_, can't find /dev/sdc4 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[17:45] <ePirat> :/
[17:45] <llutz_> ePirat: you missed the /mnt at the end of the line?
[17:45] <llutz_> ePirat: sudo mount /dev/sdc4 /mnt
[17:45] <ePirat> oh sorry
[17:45] <ralf_> lol
[17:46] <llutz_> ePirat: "df -h /mnt" should show some space available
[17:46] <ePirat> mount: /mnt is not a block device
[17:46] <ePirat> :o
[17:46] <indy_> hi folks
[17:47] <llutz_> ePirat: 1st: sudo umount /mnt
[17:47] <indy_> can anyone recommend a app that I can use to edit a metacity theme xml file?
[17:47] <ePirat> llutz_, not mounted @_@
[17:47] <ePirat> llutz_, I'll reboot the machine it's kinda messed up atm
[17:51] <ePirat> llutz_, same error, not a block oriented device or something (it's german so i translated it, original message may be different)
[17:52] <edibert> I got this error message after my installation of ubuntu... error: incompatible licence ..  grub rescue>
[17:53] <edibert> Can anyone help me fix this?
[17:53] <edibert> PLEASE
[17:54] <K4k> Can someone help me figure out why I'm not getting HDMI output using the intel HDMI on my system?
[17:54] <jpmh> I have a laptop that I often use with an external monitor,  Is there a way that I can send a command to the external one to turn it off like the internal one does
[17:55] <K4k> I'm simply getting a black screen, I assume it's a resolution error but I'm unsure how to resolve it as the tv does not get detected
[17:55] <llutz_> ePirat: "sudo mount /dev/sdc4 /mnt"
[17:56] <edibert> Can someone help me to fix this error: incompatible licence..  grub rescue>  ..after install ubuntu  PLEASEEEE
[17:56] <ePirat> llutz_, this gives me the error mentioned above
[17:57] <ePirat> ah now
[17:57] <ePirat> sorry forgot that after reboot it wasn't /dev/sdc4 but /dev/sdb4
[17:58] <llutz_> ePirat: "df -h /mnt" should show now some space available
[17:58] <ePirat> i got warning: /mnt seems to be mounted read-omly
[17:58] <ePirat> yes, Avail 681G
[17:58] <llutz_> ePirat: "mount" watch the sdb4 line, what filesystem?
[17:58] <ePirat> hfs+
[17:59] <llutz_> ePirat: super, i don't know if linux can write hfs+
[17:59] <ePirat> llutz_, ok mounted the sdb1, which is fat32 and seems to work
[17:59] <llutz_> ePirat: you should get a disk with a common filesystem like ext-fs/ntfs or maybe vfat
[17:59] <ePirat> k i will format it...
[18:00] <llutz_> ePirat: sdb1 has 10k free, what would you like to store?
[18:00] <wwewe> anyone here use debian?
[18:00] <llutz_> wwewe: #debian
[18:00] <wwewe> How do I upgrade from wheezy to sid
[18:00] <wwewe> I cant', I'm banned there
[18:00] <edibert> Can someone help me to fix this error: incompatible licence..  grub rescue>  ..after install ubuntu  PLEASEEEE
[18:00] <llutz_> wwewe: for a reason.
[18:00] <ePirat> llutz_, oh right may not be enough...
[18:01] <ePirat> llutz_, can i format the hdd with ubuntu or i have to use the mac?
[18:01] <llutz_> ePirat: you don't need the data on that disk anymore?
[18:01] <ePirat> llutz_, no this is just a backup of a backup
[18:01] <ePirat> it's ok do delete everything
[18:01] <llutz_> ePirat: "sudo parted /dev/sdb"
[18:02] <llutz_> ePirat: "mklabel msdos"
[18:02] <llutz_> ePirat: STOP, 1st umount /mnt
[18:02] <ia9371> h/j #math
[18:02] <realpain> I need help, during a Facebook like support! For my doggie, would you able to like it?
[18:02] <ePirat> llutz_, k done
[18:02] <edibert> Can someone help me to fix this error: incompatible licence..  grub rescue>  ..after install ubuntu  PLEASEEEE
[18:03] <llutz_> ePirat: "mklabel msdos"  done? "quit" then
[18:03] <llutz_> ePirat: "sudo fdisk /dev/sdb"
[18:07] <llutz_> ePirat: sry my connection dropped
[18:08] <naftilos76> Hi, has anyone lost data (emails) stored in Evolution? I am just thinking about using it as my email client.
[18:08] <ePirat> np
[18:08] <llutz_> ePirat: "mklabel msdos"  done? "quit" then.  you did?
[18:09] <varun> anyone having any idea about channel where i can get info on SimpleScalar?
[18:10] <ePirat> llutz_, yep worked
[18:10] <llutz_> ePirat: "sudo fdisk /dev/sdb"
[18:11] <ePirat> k
[18:11] <llutz_> ePirat: "d" enter "4" when asking for partition-number,   "d" enter "3", "d" enter "2", "d"   and all partition are removed
[18:12] <llutz_> ePirat: "p" should list an empty drive
[18:12] <idontgetthis> is there any way to get my computer to drop everything in swap?
[18:12] <joeC1> !Time
[18:13] <ePirat> oh wait
[18:13] <ePirat> llutz_, have to reboot, brb
[18:13] <idontgetthis> htop tells me what process is taking up how much memory in a really nicely human-readable format
[18:14] <idontgetthis> is there anything like that for what process is taking up how much swap?
[18:14] <idontgetthis> i guess if i knew that i could just kill / pkill
[18:14] <llutz_> idontgetthis: not processes use swap, the kernel does
[18:14] <KBentley57> hey guys, has anyone had a look at the 3.1 kernel yet?
[18:15] <idontgetthis> llutz_: okay, i don't really care for semantics. swap is clearly the limiting factor for performance on my laptop at times. when swap is inevitably used, i want to figure out what instigated its use. how do i do that?
[18:16] <JLuc> hello
[18:16] <ePirat> llutz_, yes empty
[18:16] <ePirat> shows no partition at all now
[18:16] <jpmh> idontgetthis:  you can't really say that a process is taking swap - the system is - you can look for the processes that are active when you get to that state
[18:16] <KBentley57> idontgetthis: how much ram do you have?
[18:17] <idontgetthis> KBentley57: 1 G
[18:17] <llutz_> ePirat: "n" "primary" "1" "start/end" just press enter
[18:17] <carlosarli> if i have any problems with my xubuntu have i to look for help here? cause i didn't understand very well the wiki
[18:17] <ePirat> llutz_, done
[18:17] <KBentley57> idontgetthis:  it's using swap, with ram still available I'm guessing, right?
[18:17] <idontgetthis> KBentley57: yes
[18:18] <llutz_> ePirat: "p" should list now 1 primary nearly 1TB linux partition
[18:18] <idontgetthis> KBentley57: vm.swappiness = 0 as well btw
[18:18] <ePirat> llutz_, doesn't show size, only "Blocks"
[18:18] <LogicallyDashing> I just upgraded my old 10.04 machine. Used to be, I used Network Manager to share the wireless connection with the wired. Now when I do that, the wired connection disconnects after a second or so. What should I do?
[18:18] <llutz_> ePirat: lots of blocks, so :) "w" to write,  make it permanent
[18:18] <ePirat> done
[18:18] <ralph_> hey anyone familiar with dialog in bash under ubuntu??
[18:19] <llutz_> ePirat: q
[18:19] <llutz_> ePirat: "sudo mkfs.ext4 -m0 /dev/sdb1"
[18:19] <idontgetthis> KBentley57: any ideas?
[18:20] <ePirat> llutz_, how can u remember all those commands?
[18:20] <KBentley57> idontgetthis:  read this:  https://lwn.net/Articles/100978/  it would seem that the swappiness setting can be finiky
[18:20] <llutz_> ePirat: 16 yrs time to learn :)
[18:20] <ePirat> llutz_, ok it finished
[18:20] <ralph_> mugging makes it happen ,LOL
[18:20] <llutz_> ePirat: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[18:20] <JLuc> i have many partitions on my disk. With grub they appear in this order : 2 for ubuntu 11.04,  2 for memtest,  2 for windows, 2 for mageia). But none is empty. I dont how how to empty ubuntu partitions so as to install 11.10 on it since it has no name when i look through windows disk manager. How can I be sure 11.10 install on right partition ?
[18:21] <ePirat> llutz_, done :)
[18:21] <llutz_> ePirat:  "sudo cp -ax /home/ /mnt"
[18:21] <randoulf> hello good fellas, will radeon hd 6xxx series work with ubuntu 11.10 or am I to face a series of random X crashes?
[18:21] <llutz_> ePirat: no need for tar since we have a linux-fs now
[18:21] <ralph_> Jluc use diskpart utility in windows 7 and bcd edit
[18:22] <ralph_> :)
[18:22] <idontgetthis> KBentley57: that article, though interesting, only seems to complain about the problem and shows various tests and results they got
[18:22] <carlosarli> do you know why when my computer goes stand by my screen shut down and i cant switch on it again? it happens also when i restart the computer: the computer restarts, but the screen remains black. when i had the 11.04 that didn't happen! anyway if there are any english mistakes... sorry but I'm italian:)
[18:22] <ePirat> llutz_, k it's copying right now :)
[18:22] <bindi> When using ubuntu server, what's the best way of blocking certain countries from accessing it totally?
[18:22] <idontgetthis> KBentley57: but really, that is bullshit isn't it? you ask the kernel to not use swap and it does it anyway
[18:22] <escott> JLuc, use gparted on the livecd
[18:22] <ePirat> llutz_, can I open the hdd on my mac or only on ubuntu/linux now?
[18:22] <idontgetthis> KBentley57: i am hesitant to just destroy that partition
[18:23] <KBentley57> idontgetthis:  How much swap space is it using?
[18:23] <llutz_> ePirat:  i don't know if OS X can read ext4
[18:23] <JLuc> the ubuntu partitions seem to have no name when looked at through windows (except windows one)...
[18:23] <idontgetthis> KBentley57: it was using it all (256 MB)
[18:23] <JLuc> i try your hints howevr
[18:23] <idontgetthis> KBentley57: i had to kill off all my PDF viewers and other media players to get swap to not be used
[18:23] <KBentley57> idontgetthis:  Care to explain the program you were using, or what situation leads to full swap utilization?
[18:23] <idontgetthis> KBentley57: okular, vlc
[18:24] <FreezingCold> Alright, I need to get this stupid webcam working again.  It was working before I updated Ubuntu, now it doesn't work anymore
[18:24] <FreezingCold> vx-3000 linux
[18:24] <KBentley57> idontgetthis:  just using those eats 1 GB of ram and 256 MB of swap?
[18:24] <idontgetthis> KBentley57: 2 instances of okular, 1 instance of vlc (feynman lectures full pdf and david griffiths quantum physics djvu with my annotations and vlc with feynman's lectures on physics audio)
[18:24] <idontgetthis> KBentley57: not 1 GB of RAM, just 256 MB of swap
[18:25] <idontgetthis> KBentley57: and from a user's standpoint, my computer is unusable at that point
[18:25] <KBentley57> idontgetthis:  I see, physics major also btw?  What ubuntu are you using?
[18:25] <idontgetthis> KBentley57: i'm running practically nothing otherwise... fluxbox... xterm, that's it really
[18:25] <zykotick9> idontgetthis, you do understand (which you obviously don't) that swap makes your system faster right?  If you only have 1GB RAM that's your main issue, not the swap.
[18:25] <idontgetthis> KBentley57: EE grad student trying to learn physics to make cool nanoscale devices
[18:26] <idontgetthis> KBentley57: not using ubuntu actually. using archlinux, but i can't get into #archlinux or ##linux without registering and too lazy to do that
[18:26] <idontgetthis> zykotick9: lol, you don't know what you're talking about
[18:26] <llutz_> zykotick9: swap makes nothing faster, it just prevents apps from being killed when they run out of memory
[18:26] <FreezingCold> idontgetthis, what's the issue?
[18:26] <KBentley57> idontgetthis:  grad student?  I thought we were all grad slaves..lol.
[18:26] <Roasted> Is anybody familiar with grabbing an ISO off of a DVD? I have a live concert here on DVD I want in digital format on my HTPC but I keep erroring out with it.
[18:26] <kontagious> how do i view a log file as it gets edited in terminal?
[18:26] <zykotick9> llutz, actually that is incorrect, the kernel will cache to swap to free physical memory for more important things (if physical memory is low)
[18:26] <Roasted> kontagious, like syslog?
[18:27] <ePirat> llutz_, than you very very much for your help :)
[18:27] <Roasted> kontagious, I use tail -f /var/log/syslog
[18:27] <carlosarli> nobody knows?
[18:27] <llutz_> ePirat: np
[18:27] <ePirat> llutz_, do you have a flattr account?
[18:27] <llutz_> ePirat: nope
[18:27] <kontagious> Roasted, thank you!! how do i display my running log file for httpd? tail -f /var/log/httpd/logs/error_log ?
[18:27] <KBentley57> idontgetthis:  what other hardware are you running?  Just trying to get a feel of your pc
[18:28] <Roasted> kontagious, tail -f is the key. whatever the log file is is where the path goes. I just use it for syslog a lot so thats why my example was /var/log/syslog :)
[18:28] <idontgetthis> FreezingCold: with just 2 instances of okular and 1 of vlc, swap is fully used, but memory is barely used (~150 MB roughly of 1 GB) and my system is unusable. kill all 3 of those applications gets it to work
[18:28] <kontagious> Roasted, thank you very much :)
[18:28] <Roasted> kontagious, no problem!
[18:28] <ralph_> use firewalls kiddo,easy to implement,bindi
[18:28] <ralph_> ;)
[18:29] <idontgetthis> KBentley57: i can post lshw if you want, but i think it's really telling that without those three applications running all at once, i have swap fully used
[18:29] <KBentley57> idontgetthis:  I suppose you could compile your own kernel without swap support and try that out?
[18:29] <KBentley57> idontgetthis:  Then boot to the previous kernel if stuff gets crazy
[18:30] <idontgetthis> KBentley57: i think a better understanding can be had from seeing what i did recently... this computer has been on for days (just hibernate when i leave lab and hibernate when i leave home). i left vlc and okular on overnight. if there was a memory leak then it would explain high memory usage... but where increasing swap usage comes from with time makes no sense...
[18:30] <Darkenvy> can somone help me with crontab?
[18:30] <idontgetthis> KBentley57: i could, but i have a life :p
[18:30] <llutz_> zykotick9: and since swap usually resides on horrible slow harddrives, it won't "speed up" anything
[18:30] <KBentley57> idontgetthis:  as an EE grad student?  Lies!
[18:31] <Roasted> Is handbrake available on 11.10 yet?
[18:31] <escott> !help | Darkenvy
[18:31] <idontgetthis> KBentley57: well i don't consider compiling a kernel much fun. there's a lot simpler approaches i could take... i could destroy the swap partition and then reinstate it later
[18:31] <rawfodog> I had 2 OS's on my computer. I delete the other OS and I want ubuntu to be my primary. That went fine, except for that I still have grub when I boot my computer. How do I delete or hide grub ?
[18:31] <idontgetthis> KBentley57: also, making quantum cascade lasers is way more fun than ticking off "USB Mass Storage" support...
[18:31] <Roasted> rawfodog, grub is used to boot ubuntu. what OS is left on this computer? ubuntu?
[18:31] <escott> rawfodog, you cant delete grub, but you can hide it in /etc/default/grub
[18:31] <rawfodog> Roasted, ubuntu
[18:32] <Darkenvy> escott, yes but I desire a conversation
[18:32] <TheEvilPhoenix> rawfodog:  you need to have grub.  Boot into Ubuntu, run `sudo update-grub2`
[18:32] <Roasted> rawfodog, without grub, ubuntu won't boot.
[18:32] <TheEvilPhoenix> rawfodog:  Grub doesnt autoupdate after you change things on the partitions
[18:32] <KBentley57> idontgetthis:  read through this too, it looks as if you may be able to turn swap off https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Swap  Try # swapoff -a
[18:32] <zykotick9> llutz, idontgetthis perhaps you should both see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq - or check for some of Linus' comments about swap/virtual memory.
[18:32] <TheEvilPhoenix> rawfodog:  you need to manually update grub - once it detects only Ubuntu, it will probably skip the prompts
[18:32] <escott> Darkenvy, you aren't going to get one unless you explain your question first, because nobody knows if they can answer it until you ask
[18:32] <idontgetthis> KBentley57: i guess it's not a problem any more. i am wasting time. but hey thanks for the conversation and the links. i appreciate it. take care man
[18:32] <maxagaz> are there widgets in gnome-shell ? if yes, how to use/configure it ?
[18:32] <Darkenvy> fine: I accidently had my crontab execute a backup once every minute causing my VPS to corrupt. How can I make my backups occure once every 3 hours and once every 12 hours respectively?
[18:33] <rawfodog> Generating grub.cfg ...
[18:33] <rawfodog> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-12-generic-pae
[18:33] <rawfodog> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.0.0-12-generic-pae
[18:33] <rawfodog> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-11-generic-pae
[18:33] <rawfodog> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-11-generic-pae
[18:33] <FloodBot1> rawfodog: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:33] <rawfodog> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[18:33] <Roasted> Does anybody know if Handbrake is available for Ubuntu 11.10 yet? I'm getting errors on the PPA :(
[18:33] <Darkenvy> crontab : "* 1 * * * <command>" apparently means once a minute because thats what it did
[18:34] <Menthane> Guys in the prevouos gnome that came with Ubuntu you could change the current themes colour (like the selected colour and the window background colour) how'd you do that in Unity?
[18:34] <persu> #backtrack-pl
[18:34] <llutz_> zykotick9: did you? i guess no
[18:34] <escott> Darkenvy, 0 /3 * * *
[18:34] <zykotick9> llutz, particularly the "Optimizing memory usage" section
[18:34] <tonyyarusso> rawfodog: You can not delete grub, but you can hide it and make it faster.  If you look in /etc/default/grub you will find a few different settings, include some "timeout" values and "hidden" directives.  Setting those properly will allow you to make grub instantly boot Ubuntu rather than bringing up the menu and waiting a few seconds.  You will need to run update-grub after making any changes to that file to apply them.
[18:34] <Darkenvy> ccan you please explain this escott?
[18:35] <Darkenvy> doesnt using a number without the backslash mean time? like "0 1 * * * *" = every day at 01:00?
[18:35] <idontgetthis> KBentley57: i forgot to mention... my original request is somewhat foolish... "what program can i execute to find out what is overloading my system?"... sure how am i going to execute it? i guess it'll have to be intelligent guesswork to figure it out in the future as well. i should get a bigger hard drive and more memory down the line, but being below the poverty line and constantly forced to make do is the story of my li
[18:35] <escott> Darkenvy, 0 1-24/3 * * * means the 0th minute of hours 1-24 that are divisible by 3, every day every month every year
[18:35] <tonyyarusso> rawfodog: I *think* the choice about automatically setting the hidden and timeout values based on whether other operating systems are detected is only done within the original installer, not update-grub instances later, although I could be wrong about that.
[18:36] <escott> Darkenvy, the second could be */3 which is the same as 1-24/3
[18:36] <joeC1> Hi all! :-)  On MS Windows, we can do ALT+(whatever number) to achieve a desired character(s)...  What is the equivalent keystroke(s) for us ()Ubuntu users??
[18:36] <Darkenvy> escott: so it wont do time that isnt divisible by three? like the fourth hour? (because 4/3= 1.3333)
[18:36] <skore> how can i hack?
[18:36] <skore> joke
[18:36] <KBentley57> idontgetthis:  I hear that man, however, large pdf's can bring a system down too, try document viewer if ockular isn't cutting it
[18:36] <rawfodog> thanks everyone
[18:37] <idontgetthis> document viewer?
[18:37] <tonyyarusso> idontgetthis: aka Evince
[18:37] <teemperor> i think he mean evince
[18:37] <tonyyarusso> idontgetthis: (It's just labeled "Document Viewer" in the menus)
[18:37] <idontgetthis> oh okay i'll check it out
[18:37] <R3db3ard> tonyyarusso, which file in /etc/default/grub do i edit to hide the grub menu?
[18:38] <Darkenvy> thanks escott, Ill be back in 3 hours if it doesnt work :)
[18:38] <escott> Darkenvy, it can if you want hours 2,5,8 etc you do 2-24/3. so its really m-H/M and it will run every hour h that satisfies (h mod M=m) and (h<=H)
[18:38] <tonyyarusso> R3db3ard: /etc/default/grub *is* a file, not a directory.
[18:38] <zykotick9> tonyyarusso, idontgetthis is using Arch - it could use different labels
[18:38] <R3db3ard> ah
[18:38] <tonyyarusso> zykotick9: ah.  Then why are they asking here?
[18:39] <zykotick9> tonyyarusso, beats me
[18:39] <o_portista17> does ubuntu 11.10 have any firewall by default?
[18:39] <Darkenvy> escott, so it will only operate on round numbers though? So as long as I check my equations and it equals a round number?
[18:39] <escott> Darkenvy, sorry thats not really right its L-H/M and it does hours L,L+M,L+2M,... until L+kM>H
[18:39] <tonyyarusso> joeC1: I believe you're looking for Alt+U, then the number, then enter.
[18:40] <rumpel1> o_portista17, no and you usually don't need one
[18:40] <tonyyarusso> joeC1: There's also a Character Map application that lets you search for and copy them.
[18:40] <escott> Darkenvy, if you want it to be on the half our set the minutes to 30
[18:40] <Darkenvy> right
[18:40] <Darkenvy> Im just verifying I understand this right :P
[18:40] <Darkenvy> cool thanks escott
[18:40] <joeC1> ok, thank you tonyyarusso!
[18:40] <o_portista17> rumpel1, ok, thank u
[18:40] <escott> Darkenvy, I would just read the wiki page, thats all I'm doing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cron
[18:41] <tonyyarusso> o_portista17: Yes, there is a firewall installed.  No, it does not have any rules loaded by default.  However, it doesn't need any by default because there are not listening services that need protecting by default.  (ie, by default the ports are closed, rather than filtered)
[18:41] <Darkenvy> escott: I was actually here: http://corenominal.org/howto-setup-a-crontab-file/
[18:41] <FreezingCold> Trying to get my darn webcam to work, trying to compile gspca but I get: /tmp/gspcav1-20071224/gspca_core.c:37:26: fatal error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory
[18:41] <pycoderf> does anyone know why ubuntu 11.10 server would stop accepting ssh connections from putty
[18:41] <Darkenvy> and ive been google searching but I thought to myself 'f*** it, IRC' lol
[18:41] <escott> In 2003 on the 11th to 26th of each month in January to June every third minute starting from 2 past 1am, 9am and 10pm "2-59/3 1,9,22 11-26 1-6 ? 2003"
[18:41] <innoblue> pycoderf: did you check your sshd_config file?
[18:42] <pycoderf> innoblue: yes it has been working and i didnt change anything. i was testing dhcp configs but when i set it back to my network it didnt work
[18:42] <varun> can anybody please tell me on what channel i can learn/ask about SimpleScalar? :)
[18:42] <Myrtti> Darkenvy: mind the language, please :-)
[18:42] <tonyyarusso> pycoderf: perhaps your sshd is listening on the wrong network and confused by the changes?  Does a restart (of the service or machine) fix it?
[18:43] <pycoderf> tonyyarusso: no it does not i did not specify an address
[18:43] <escott> !alis | varun
[18:43] <R3db3ard> tonyyarusso, thanks for that, i'd been needing to do that for a while. [hiding the grub at startup]
[18:43] <Darkenvy> Myrtti, I did thats why I self-censored
[18:44] <Darkenvy> I actually said "Flac-It" as in "give me those lossless music files"
[18:44] <innoblue> uhm so... anyone here familiar with i2p or know what irc room might be actually helpful in learing to config it?
[18:44] <tonyyarusso> pycoderf: what's your output of `netstat -lt` look like?
[18:44] <babble> hey all: in Gnome Shell, is there a setting I'm missing to change the color of the text font for desktop items?
[18:44] <pycoderf> tonyyarusso: what line did you need?
[18:45] <babble> (Gnome 3 gnome-shell)
[18:45] <pycoderf> proto was tcp and tcp6
[18:45] <tonyyarusso> pycoderf: grep for ssh, then either tcp or tcp6 depending on how you're trying to access it.  (tcp6 is the IPv6 version)
[18:46] <pycoderf> im using ipv4 andonly those two shows up when i did netstat -lt
[18:46] <escott> babble, try either "dconf-editor" it might be in there
[18:46] <tonyyarusso> pycoderf: 'k, then just the tcp line.
[18:46] <pycoderf> when i do ls /proc | grep ssh nothing shows up but the service is running
[18:47] <babble> ah, I can hunt through dconf. hehe.
[18:47] <escott> pycoderf, it won't show up as a directory entry in /proc do you mean ps aux | grep
[18:47] <tonyyarusso> pycoderf: ls /proc wouldn't show you anything.
[18:47] <tonyyarusso> (for that)
[18:47] <pycoderf> ok ps aux | grep ssh shows it
[18:47] <pycoderf> so its running
[18:48] <tonyyarusso> pycoderf: can you paste the tcp netstat line?
[18:48] <pycoderf> tonyyarusso: its not showing in netstat
[18:48] <pycoderf> and i cant the machine is virtual and i cant get files fromit
[18:48] <tonyyarusso> pycoderf: eh?  I thought you just said it was a moment ago?
[18:48] <escott> pycoderf, have you looked at the putty log of the conversation. thats the best place to start
[18:48] <pycoderf> tonyyarusso: netstat shows nothing really, but ps aux shows sshd running
[18:48] <nullm0dem> hello, i have had this issue and have now run into another with the same. When transfering to a stock WD external drive formatted with NTFS directories trees and some files transfer. when viewing the drive everything looks as if the transfer went ok. but upon reinstalling the os and accessing the drive the transfer is incomplete. this si also after safely removeing the drive.
[18:49] <pycoderf> this has been working all morning now it wont connect
[18:49] <tonyyarusso> pycoderf: well, that line would be short enough to type manually.  It should look something like this:  tcp  0  0  *:ssh  *:*  LISTEN
[18:50] <pycoderf> neither line in netstat -lt shows ssh
[18:50] <padmick> hi
[18:50] <tonyyarusso> pycoderf: what do they show in that fourth field?
[18:50] <escott> nullm0dem, the reinstall seems a red-herring. copy the files, eject the drive, plug it back in. are the files still there
[18:50] <padmick> can any 1 help me??
[18:50] <pycoderf> local address *:2200
[18:50] <escott> !help | padmick
[18:50] <tonyyarusso> pycoderf: Are you running ssh on port 2200, or port 22?
[18:51] <pycoderf> 2200
[18:51] <padmick> sorry
[18:51] <tonyyarusso> okay, that's why then.  So it is listening properly.
[18:51] <tonyyarusso> pycoderf: and you get no response whatsoever when you try to connect, correct?
[18:51] <pycoderf> it says it times out but i can ping the vm just fine and ping the host from the vm
[18:52] <escott> pycoderf, do you have a firewall running
[18:52] <pycoderf> on my host yes but it has not interfered all morning
[18:52] <padmick> im using wubi and every time 1 try to start ubuntu all i get is a purple screen can any 1 help?
[18:52] <nullm0dem> escott: no there have been several reboots. i am assuming the files never transfered but remained in tmp. i accessed essential files from what i thought was the external and they displayed fine. this was a month ago i am in another channel trying to help someone with the same issue
[18:52] <wmoxam> If I were to buy an SSD, what would be the best way to transfer my Ubuntu install over to it?
[18:53] <FreezingCold> Where the heck did =/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so go?!
[18:53] <elgaton> wmoxam: booting from an Ubuntu CD and copying the files from the old drive to the new one
[18:53] <FreezingCold> I NEED that file!
[18:53] <pycoderf> i just added the mac address to the exceptions list of my firewall. no change
[18:53] <tonyyarusso> pycoderf: do you see any useful entries in /var/log/auth.log?
[18:53] <wmoxam> elgaton: oh, so the CD has an option to copy everything over?
[18:54] <padmick> does anyone here use wubi?
[18:54] <escott> nullm0dem, that sounds strange to say the least, but i guess i can imagine a way it might happen, but it should be very easy to verify. plug in the drive. check the output of mount to figure out where it is mounted. browse to that location. eject the drive, check mount again. verify the folder is now emptied
[18:54] <elgaton> wmoxam: no, you will need to start Ubuntu from the CD and choose to "Run Ubuntu now". Open a terminal, mount the old and the new disks from there, then use the "cp" command to copy the contents.
[18:55] <pycoderf> ok for some reason it stopped binding to an address
[18:55] <pycoderf> says "fatal: cannot bind to any address"
[18:55] <elgaton> wmoxam: You can also use the standard file manager from the Ubuntu CD.
[18:55] <nullm0dem> escott:
[18:55] <tonyyarusso> pycoderf: intriguing.  And that error persists through a 'service ssh restart'?
[18:55] <escott> padmick, not a lot of wubi users here. im afriad. the purple screen, can you tell if it is grub, or is it plymouth? ie is it after you selected to boot to wubi or before? If it is after have you tried pressing the up arrow?
[18:55] <pycoderf> i just have itthe ip of eth0 and am restarting servicenow
[18:56] <wmoxam> elgaton: AFAICT the ssd won't be bootable if I do that
[18:56] <padmick> its grub i think
[18:56] <padmick> what does the up arrow do?
[18:56] <nullm0dem> escott: i will have him try, i did try that when i encountered the issue. he has the same WD drive. i have never experienced this before with any other type of media
[18:56] <froq> Ubuntu seems to really getting sluggish on my computer, is there any applications/ etc out there to increase efficiency?
[18:56] <glebihan> !find /usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so | FreezingCold
[18:56] <escott> padmick, in plymouth the up arrow drops you back to the framebuffer so you can see kernel messages
[18:56] <pycoderf> service restarted stillno connection
[18:56] <FreezingCold> I found out they moved it to LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so!
[18:57] <FreezingCold> *remove the LD_PRELOAD
[18:57] <FreezingCold> But my damn webcam still won't work!
[18:57] <wmoxam> elgaton: and I'd guess that the fstab config would be wrong
[18:57] <tonyyarusso> pycoderf: still the error also?  You might try doing 'invoke-rc.d networking restart', then restart ssh again, and if it's still not happy take a look at your sshd_config.
[18:57] <escott> padmick, its helpful if there is some kind of issue with the hardware as you can usually see what is causing the kernel to get stuck. if the problem is grub not being able to find the wubi image file on the ntfs partition that i have no idea how to help with, except to suggest not using wubi
[18:57] <pycoderf> my sshd_config has notbeen changed
[18:58] <FreezingCold> Man, I need to get this working, my family is flipping out on me cause the webcam doesn't work...
[18:58] <padmick> escott, whats happing is
[18:58] <pycoderf> tonyyarusso: still not working
[18:59] <elgaton> elgaton: sorry, forgot to add that you will need to run "sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/newSSDmountpoint/boot/grub". For the fstab issue, I thought you would connect the SSD in place of the existing drive (using the same connector on the motherboard that was used for the original drive) and connect the old drive to a new connector.
[18:59] <pycoderf> should i uninstall and reinstall ssh
[18:59] <elgaton> wmoxam: sorry, forgot to add that you will need to run "sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/newSSDmountpoint/boot/grub". For the fstab issue, I thought you would connect the SSD in place of the existing drive (using the same connector on the motherboard that was used for the original drive) and connect the old drive to a new connector.
[18:59] <escott> FreezingCold, before you start dealing with i386 and v4lcompat does it work with cheese
[18:59] <tonyyarusso> pycoderf: could you recap for us what DID change?
[18:59] <FreezingCold> escott, no.... I think I need to install v4lcompat again or something
[18:59] <FreezingCold> Because the module is gone\
[19:00] <elgaton> wmoxam: The latest versions of Ubuntu use UUIDs in the fstab file - you'll just need to find the new one (the one of the SSD) and replace it.
[19:00] <pycoderf> tonyyarusso: well i tested a dhcp configuration, this vm is to test the config for a dhcp server i am goign to be building. when a config failed i set it back to the bridged network in vmware and gave it a static ip
[19:00] <wmoxam> elgaton: kk
[19:00] <padmick> ok is there ant way i can break down the partation and retreve the files? i need them and then repair wubi
[19:00] <pycoderf> i can ping to and from it with my host
[19:00] <escott> FreezingCold, the v4lcompat is only for older applications like skype. you shouldnt need it for a modern application like cheese
[19:00] <FreezingCold> escott, well I need to get skype working later, but sure, let's try to get it working in cheese first
[19:01] <FreezingCold> ** (cheese:5688): WARNING **: Error starting streaming on device '/dev/video0'.
[19:01] <escott> padmick, AFAIK the wubi image file is just an ext4 file you can loopmount. so boot your livecd and loop mount the wubi image file
[19:01] <FreezingCold> The light actually started coming on for a second but flicks off
[19:02] <tonyyarusso> pycoderf: did the interface name change when you did that?
[19:02] <pycoderf> no
[19:02] <padmick> ? am im new to this so if u could simpifly what u are sayin that would be great
[19:02] <escott> FreezingCold, so webcams can be finicky. i would remove it if you can/reboot if it is built in
[19:02] <tonyyarusso> pycoderf: also, I assume you're sure this is the only system using that IP address, and you didn't dual-assign ;)
[19:02] <FreezingCold> escott, sorry, remove what?
[19:02] <pycoderf> yes i am sure
[19:02] <pycoderf> i even switched it to dhcp from static and same issue
[19:03] <escott> FreezingCold, the webcam. ie unplug the usb. if you cant reboot to have it reinitialize
[19:03] <FreezingCold> escott, done that 100 times by now
[19:03] <FreezingCold> The crap still doesn't work
[19:03] <escott> FreezingCold, in case the v4lcompat stuff you were playing with has confused the webcam firmware
[19:03] <FreezingCold> It's a vx-3000 btw
[19:04] <padmick> escott, could u simpifly what u are saying to me thanks
[19:04] <FreezingCold> I'm rebuilding v4l-dvb right now, after that I'll retry rebooting for the 101th time :P
[19:04] <escott> padmick, wubi has a file which is an image file of the contents of wubi's / partition. the livecd can mount the ntfs partition to /media/NTFS or something, and then you can loop mount (just a fancy way to say mount this file as if it were a device) the wubi image file to /media/wubi
[19:05] <escott> padmick, then you can recover your data/move it outside the wubi image file to the ntfs partition and have it accessible under windows
[19:05] <tonyyarusso> pycoderf: okay, try this:  STOP the ssh server (no restart), run netstat again, and see if it still shows something listening on 2200.  Oh, and I also assume you are specifying that port number from your client, obviously.
[19:05] <pycoderf> yeah port is set
[19:06] <escott> FreezingCold, you might also want to check the v4l website to see if there are any known regressions with your hardware
[19:06] <FreezingCold> escott, it WAS working until I upgrade Ubuntu
[19:07] <FreezingCold> *upgraded
[19:07] <pycoderf> for some reason the openssh-server package is broken so it wont remove or install. any ideaS? i may just restart the whole vm
[19:08] <K4k> I'm attempting to hook my computer up to my TV. I'm seeing the TV to show as an available display however. I'm using the Intel GMA video chipset, can someone try and help me with this please?
[19:08] <K4k> er..I'm NOT able to see the TV as a display***
[19:08] <padmick> im sorry escott but i am a true beginner so if u could explain how to mount using a live cd and where i can find nfts and how to make it windows acceptable
[19:09] <pycoderf> i think this will be much easier to reinstall the vm
[19:09] <Lucifero> I need to test a simple script-fu for gimp, anyone can help?
[19:09] <pycoderf> waste of time at this point in fixing it. thanksfor the help
[19:09] <tonyyarusso> pycoderf: Did a dpkg get interrupted somehow?  Restarting the VM might help, but might not.  I say go for it and see.
[19:09] <padmick> but i need the files
[19:10] <escott> padmick, best to wait until you have booted the livecd then we can walk you through it.
[19:11] <padmick> problem there ive only got 1 pc
[19:11] <Onkeltem> How can I change umask for a PHP script (which I can't edit) running from using CLI?
[19:12] <Onkeltem> s/using//
[19:12] <pkkm> Is the GNOME Color Manager going to make my whole desktop or just color-managed applications display in correct colors on a wide-gamut monitor?
[19:12] <padmick> can 1 access irc on a live boot?
[19:12] <ugur> Hi!
[19:12] <ugur> Is there anybody who uses unity panel transparent ?
[19:12] <IMRAN> i want sexy girl for chatting
[19:13] <IMRAN> ANY ONE HERE
[19:13] <froq> ugur, never heard of it. wha tis uit?
[19:13] <idontgetthis> lol in #ubuntu
[19:13] <IMRAN> I WANT HOT GIRL TO CHAT
[19:13] <IMRAN> ANY?
[19:13] <tonyyarusso> IMRAN: This is a support channel.
[19:13] <IMRAN> OH SORRY
[19:13] <idontgetthis> IMRAN: how would allah feel about your behavior?
[19:13] <upd> hei, i  have one problem, becouse of this stupid new gnome 3.0 there is no shutdown options, what i wan't to do is thet my laptop is closed will shutdown how can i do that ?
[19:13] <padmick> go away imran
[19:13] <Guest2919> IMRAN: wtf?
[19:13] <IMRAN> HMMM
[19:13] <tonyyarusso> upd: Hold the Alt key.  Shutdown will magically appear.
[19:14] <jasox> IMRAN, get lost
[19:14] <IMRAN> U R RIGHT
[19:14] <escott> padmick, you may have to install a client, but yes as long as you can get online you can get to irc from the livecd
[19:14] <tonyyarusso> upd: oh, automatically on lid close?  No idea.
[19:14] <IMRAN> SORRY
[19:14] <idontgetthis> lol religion still good for controlling the masses
[19:14] <escott> upd, try the power settings
[19:14] <IMRAN> OK
[19:14] <tonyyarusso> idontgetthis: That's not helpful either.
[19:14] <IMRAN> THIS CHANEEL IS FOR?
[19:14] <padmick> ok ill be back once i get in though my live cd
[19:14] <tMH-> imran: ever heard of linux?
[19:14] <tonyyarusso> IMRAN: Ubuntu support.  Do you have an Ubuntu question?
[19:14] <IMRAN> YES
[19:15] <tMH-> and - turn off capslock, MORON.
[19:15] <IMRAN> ok
[19:15] <upd> tonyyarusso: yes, when lid is closed, i try under power settings but there is only suspend and hibernate options, but in previous gnome there was also shutdown options
[19:15] <IMRAN> i knowubunto
[19:15] <escott> upd, nevermind not an option there. there are extensions for shell to have the shutdown option
[19:15] <tMH-> so ubuntu is linux.
[19:15] <IMRAN> ok
[19:15] <IMRAN> good
[19:15] <tMH-> pretty _strange_ place to seek gals
[19:15] <IMRAN> thanis
[19:15] <IMRAN> take care
[19:15] <IMRAN> bye
[19:15] <FloodBot1> IMRAN: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:15] <upd> escott: so i  have to install those externsions ?
[19:15] <nullm0dem> yes ubuntu is linux
[19:15] <escott> upd, yes
[19:16] <adham_ykh> hiiiiiiii
[19:16] <upd> escott: aha okey thanks
[19:16] <adham_ykh> anybody here?
[19:16] <tMH-> btw, I did install xubuntu on p3-733/512mb ram PC, now update manager offers total upgrade to 11.10 version. I suppose to _not_ upgrade - otherwise this oldie hardware will lay down off the resources..
[19:17] <BluesKaj> nope just 1606 hiding from you
[19:17] <Jasonn> tMH-: what version do yo uhave atm?
[19:17] <tMH-> Jasonn - lemme see, wait
[19:18] <tonyyarusso> Jasonn: He has to have 11.04 or he wouldn't be offered 11.10.
[19:18] <Jasonn> tonyyarusso: yeah, thought so too, but since I dont use ubuntu...
[19:18] <Jasonn> tMH-: go for it, if 11.04 doesnt crash it, 11.10 wont either :)
[19:19] <escott> tMH-, if you are using unity-2d that is still available in 11.10
[19:20] <peterwiejaczka> :)
[19:20] <tMH-> Jasonn - how to check out exact version?:)))
[19:20] <tMH-> uname will give out kernel ver etc..
[19:20] <tMH-> escott - xfce is in use..
[19:20] <tonyyarusso> tMH-: lsb_release -a
[19:21] <tMH-> tonyyarusso - ok, will do now.
[19:21] <tMH-> w8
[19:21] <BluesKaj> lsb_release -a should
[19:21] <Jasonn> tMH-: You have 11.04, otherwise you wont be able to upgrade to 11.10
[19:21] <tMH-> Description:    Ubuntu 11.04
[19:21] <tMH-> Release:        11.04
[19:21] <tMH-> Jasonn - yeah...
[19:21] <virus_jpg> howdy!
[19:22] <tMH-> Jasonn - will this upgrade keep xfce window manager or will install unity etc?
[19:22] <Jasonn> tMH-: I dont know if xubuntu has unity..
[19:22] <tMH-> Jasonn - I hope it hasn't;)
[19:23] <aleksandr> please help
[19:23] <Jasonn> tMH-: :p
[19:23] <Galvatron> Wait at least untill christmas, so Ubu 11.10 will be debugged and made usable enough.
[19:23] <escott> !help | aleksandr
[19:24] <aleksandr> In my computer, one hard drive on it once stood vindovz and the disk was divided into two parts, one of which served as a repository of useful information. Now, I put Linux during the installation, among other things, the installation program under Linux, I was asked to attach to the file system of the disk, which is the repository of personal files. In the installation window was entered a few names for such a disc (folder) to give a name invented by
[19:24] <aleksandr> me, it was not possible and I took the folder name (dos), so this part of the disk and I called. Now, for unknown reasons, have changed the folder permissions, as a result I can not create new folders in it, and move files to it.
[19:25] <Galvatron> tMH: Thre's no need to ruch, quite likely straight into trouble. Firt try it on a separate partotion to make sure it works fine enough for you.
[19:25] <Galvatron> *rush
[19:25] <r0dr1g0> Hi, guys. I can't mount my cdrom drive: mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0
[19:26] <curiousx> aloha =P
[19:26] <trueman> Guys I have a question, I don't like Unity so I want to make the switch, should I go with Linux mint, or Xubuntu
[19:26] <AndroidLoverInSF> Galvatron: till xmas? it takes that long to make it 11.10 stable?
[19:27] <AndroidLoverInSF> trueman: you can try kde, it works pretty fine
[19:27] <quidnunc> !nounity > trueman
[19:27] <quidnunc> !nounity trueman
[19:27] <quidnunc> !nounity | trueman
[19:27] <nullm0dem> Anyone have any experience with those pico projectors?
[19:28] <trueman> yeah, I know It has shell, but for me it still isnt like the ubuntu classic.  Is there another way which I can restore it fully to the classical ubuntu?
[19:28] <escott> aleksandr, if your native language is not english you might want to try your native language channel. i cant understand what you just said
[19:29] <quidnunc> trueman: gnome fallback mode
[19:29] <Galvatron> AndroidLoverInSF: Might take shorter or longer. My point is simply not to rush, especially with making it the primary system.
[19:29] <nac-godfather> Linux Mint still looks the same and so does LMDE
[19:30] <trueman> quidnunc: Will that fully bring it back to the old ubuntu classic just like the classic option in 11.04?
[19:30] <nac-godfather> I was actually trying to change to gnome-shell gnome3 last night, but killed my LMDE install
[19:30] <Galvatron> nac-godfather: 11.10-based Mint is yet to come, with support both for GNOMe 2/Mate and GNOME 3
[19:31] <trueman> quidnunc: I tried that but it still was diffrent.
[19:32] <Galvatron> nac-godfather: I've already made a few approached to GNOME Shell, both with 11.04 and 11.10, and all failed.
[19:32] <Galvatron> nac-godfather: In most cases I ended up without X
[19:32] <persu2> how to register?
[19:33] <Galvatron> Register what?
[19:33] <escott> !register | persu2
[19:33] <AndroidLoverInSF> i wanted to like linux mint, but prefer ubuntu for now. my desktop is 11.10 with both unity and kde. but my primary (laptop) still on 10.10 but maybe upgrade soon. maybe once you open up most of your apps, you wont have to fiddle with the silly unity as much. maybe bearable
[19:33] <persu2> !register | persu2
[19:34] <persu2>  /msg persu2 help
[19:34] <nac-godfather> Well I was going to attempt again today, by simply adding SID's experimental repos to LMDE and then do a dist-upgrade and maybe gnome-shell, but have you already tried that as well Galvatron?
[19:35] <o_portista17> on ubuntu 11.10 i can't install "panflute-applet" , is there any other app like that one to control amarok?
[19:35] <escott> nac-godfather, Galvatron can you please take the mint related discussion to #mint
[19:35] <Galvatron> AndroidLoverInSF: You can safely make Ubuntu into Mint (and the other way round), by simply adding Mint repos to the list, updating the system and installing the whole Mint stuff,
[19:36] <Galvatron> escott: Since it's pretty much the same, with a very slight difference...
[19:36] <escott> o_portista17, panel applets are pretty much gone in 11.10 unity/gnome3
[19:36] <ugur>  
[19:36] <escott> Galvatron, this is an ubuntu support channel. we don't support mint here
[19:36] <scottj> I added a ppa for latest emacs (package emacs-snapshot) but when I apt-get update/upgrade/install eamcs-snapshot it does't update it and I noticed during update it says Ign for the repo instead of Hit. ideas?
[19:36] <o_portista17> escott, i'm not using unity...
[19:37] <Wolfsherz> hello, how can i start the control panel from the console?
[19:37] <bastidrazor> scottj, apt-cache policy emacs-snapshot   pastebin the output
[19:37] <Galvatron> escott: The difference between Ubuntu-based mint and normal Ubuntu is just a few programs and artwork, so technically it's one and the same thing.
[19:37] <nac-godfather> mint mint mint linux-mint!  woohoo!
[19:37] <escott> !mint > Galvatron
[19:38] <Galvatron> escott: OK
[19:38] <Galvatron> escott: Sorry
[19:38] <escott> o_portista17, what are you using then
[19:38] <Wolfsherz> i need to get to the system settings somehow. unity does not start correctly after deselecting the fglrx-driver.
[19:39] <CarlFK> Wolfsherz: gnome-control-center
[19:39] <escott> Wolfsherz, did you remove your /etc/X11/xorg.conf after removing the proprietary drivers?
[19:39] <scottj> bastidrazor: http://pastebin.com/rZGqEbsW
[19:39] <Galvatron> scottj: Make sure the repo contains packages dedicated for ypur system version.
[19:39] <Wolfsherz> escott: not by hand... i used the control center
[19:40] <gnumux> hola
[19:40] <bastidrazor> scottj, you did an apt-get update before the apt-cache command?
[19:40] <jc_benji_mx> saludos
[19:40] <Wolfsherz> escott: do you think that will solve my issues?
[19:40] <o_portista17> escott, gnome-session-fallback and installed gnome-panel
[19:40] <scottj> bastidrazor: yeah
[19:40] <jc_benji_mx> desde mexico
[19:40] <scottj> Galvatron: it does I'm lucid and this is the repo https://launchpad.net/~cassou/+archive/emacs
[19:40] <escott> Wolfsherz, if you aren't using proprietary drivers there should not be an xorg.conf so make sure there isnt one
[19:40] <gnumux> desde Paraguay
[19:40] <bastidrazor> scottj, that result shows apt-get is not seeing emacs-snapshot from the ppa
[19:40] <scottj> desde chilangolandia
[19:40] <escott> o_portista17, fallback != classic
[19:41] <escott> !notunity | o_portista17
[19:41] <jc_benji_mx> necesito ayuda Uregentemente con trendnet usb wireless
[19:41] <jc_benji_mx> alquien puede ayudarme??
[19:41] <Wolfsherz> escott: there is no xorg.conf
[19:41] <Galvatron> scottj: try aptitude (sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade) instead of the whole apt-xxx stuff.
[19:41] <persu2>  wpisz /query nickserv
[19:41] <LargePrime> Dear Sirs; I disabled/removed my proprietary graphics driver.  Upon reboot, no graphics.  ubuntu 11.10.  Thoughts (besides I am a moron)??
[19:41] <jc_benji_mx> es para alquien que se inicia en ubuntu
[19:41] <escott> o_portista17, gnome-session-fallback does not support applets. it is NOT gnome2 based, and it does NOT have a panel as you are accustomed to one
[19:41] <escott> !es | jc_benji_mx
[19:42] <Wolfsherz> LargePrime: same problem here
[19:42] <Galvatron> scottj: You can install aptitude with "sudo apt-get install aptitude".
[19:42] <jc_benji_mx> ok gracias
[19:42] <scottj> Galvatron: tried it, no diff
[19:42] <LargePrime> ok Wolf, i'll leach your fix
[19:42] <escott> Wolfsherz, what does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log say
[19:44] <Galvatron> scottj: Then maybe try uninstalling emacs and installing it again, to see from where the new version will be taken.
[19:44] <scottj> Galvatron: bastidrazor: when I apt-get update all the ppa.lunchpad.net lines that have a /user/reponame give Ign, could that be part of it?
[19:44] <Galvatron> scottj: I doubt
[19:44] <o_portista17> escott, i also have install gnome-shell ;x
[19:44] <Wolfsherz> escott: there seems to be no error in that log... well the graphical interface is starting, but there is just the background image... from there how do i invoke the control panel?
[19:44] <scottj> Galvatron: removing/reinstalling didn't help
[19:45] <escott> o_portista17, i don't care what you have installed/will install the applets are gone
[19:45] <o_portista17> ok, thanks
[19:45] <Galvatron> scottj: Have you tried removing the PPA from /etc/apt/sources.list.d and re-adding it?
[19:45] <persu2> hello:)
[19:46] <escott> Wolfsherz, so X is starting but you dont have any kind of shell. ctrl-alt-f1 and export DISPLAY=:0 and then try unity --replace or gnome-shell --replace according to preference
[19:46] <haylo_> would someone please help me get this game running from tarball- this is the filefile:///home/haylo/downloads/sauerbraten_2010_07_28_justice_edition_linux.tar.bz2
[19:46] <escott> haylo_, i think that game is in the repos
[19:47] <scottj> Galvatron: just tried, no change :(
[19:47] <Katador> buenas
[19:47] <Katador> boa tarde
[19:47] <haylo_> i know but i want to have the latest releases i have usd the software center before but all linux users in game use tarball version
[19:47] <escott> !br | Katador
[19:48] <LargePrime> Wolfsherz: how did you get it to have any graphics
[19:48] <escott> LargePrime, what graphics driver did you disable. nvidia or ati
[19:48] <Wolfsherz> LargePrime: it just came up with only my background-image
[19:48] <LargePrime> nvidia.
[19:48] <escott> LargePrime, make sure there isn't a /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:49] <LargePrime> how?  I have nothing on boot
[19:49] <escott> LargePrime, ctrl-alt-f1
[19:49] <scottj> Galvatron: how do I check to make sure the repo supports amd64?
[19:49] <Wolfsherz> escott: i used export display to open a gnome-control center with sudo. now re-activating the fglrx-driver
[19:50] <AndroidLoverInSF> i dont like the unity panel. it shows the frequent apps installed inline with open active apps, makes it more difficult to see whats open as they're mixed together along that panel
[19:50] <Katador> ops
[19:50] <haylo_> i just need to open a tar ball- will this channel gibe support to this linux related task?
[19:51] <upfwnv03> haylo_ tar -xvf to extract contents or tar -tvf to see whats in the archive
[19:51] <nikihr> hey i need to restore my iphone with a ipsw file, cant find idevicerestore anywhere
[19:51] <deadlin0x> why does shoutcast not work in banshee?
[19:51] <escott> haylo_, to a limited extent. tar -xjvf; ./configure --prefix=/opt; make; make install. please be sure to use a prefix
[19:51] <pnorman> Does anyone know if it's possible to flash a SiI3124 based sata card (syba 40008) from ubuntu? I know it's possible to *use* it, but I can't find any info on flashing it to the non-raid bios
[19:53] <Galvatron> scottj: Click on "View package details" and unroll the package list, but I've just checked and it contains "amd64" packages.
[19:54] <padmick> hi im back
[19:54] <Roasted> is libdvdcss included in medibuntu?
[19:54] <Galvatron> Roasted; Yes.
[19:54] <Roasted> Galvatron, k, I thought I remember libdvdcss being a separate package
[19:55] <Roasted> Galvatron, but I just installed medibuntu and didnt see libdvdcss or libdvdcss2 anywhere
[19:55] <scottj> Galvatron: well that answers it. you see the build status failed but only on the lucid repo
[19:55] <Galvatron> Roasted: But be warned that contents of "Medibuntu" are pretty much illegal stuff, partially pirated from Windows (win32 codecs).
[19:55] <scottj> Galvatron: thanks for your help
[19:55] <Galvatron> :)
[19:55] <randoulf> pirated! obscenity!
[19:55] <Roasted> Galvatron, libdvdcss is not though, is it?
[19:55] <padmick> can any 1 help me with my broken wubi
[19:56] <randoulf> we only use purified and sanctified software!
[19:56] <Roasted> Galvatron, besides, coming from windows, it's hard to feel bad. :P
[19:56] <Galvatron> Roasted: i'm afraid it's too. The fully legal stuff is what you have in restricted extras.
[19:56] <Katador> \
[19:56] <Roasted> Galvatron, so let me throw this on the table...
[19:57] <Roasted> Galvatron, I have a live concert DVD here I paid for. I'd like to rip it to my linux based HTPC.
[19:57] <Roasted> Galvatron, how can I legally do that?
[19:57] <escott> Roasted, ubuntu-restricted-extras and then for libdvdcss you have to run a script in /usr/share/libdvdcss and indicate that you are legally allowed to use dvdcss
[19:57] <Wolfsherz> escott: reinstalling the fglrx solved the issue. thank you for your help.
[19:57] <Roasted> I thought as long as you own the content you're ripping you're free to do so?
[19:58] <Galvatron> Roasted: You would have to purchase some commercial DVD player and/or the codecs themselves.
[19:58] <escott> Roasted, its a felony in the USA
[19:58] <jtrucks> is postfixadmin no longer in the stock repo? (v. 10.04 lts)
[19:58] <Roasted> escott, even if you OWN the DVD?
[19:58] <s0nee> Roasted: you dont own the content. just a copy of it.
[19:58] <escott> Roasted, yes. DMCA
[19:58] <Roasted> s093294, right. But I thought owning a copy of it entitled you the right o make a personal backup of it.
[19:59] <Galvatron> Roasted: You need a license for the DVD codecs
[19:59] <Roasted> Galvatron, is that where powerdvd comes in?
[19:59] <escott> Roasted, there are a number of rippers and encoders, but you have to run that libdvdcss install script by hand first
[19:59] <padmick> escott u probeally dont remember me but i was talking to u earlyer and u said u would help me with my wubi when i get my live cd workin so here i am
[19:59] <s0nee> Roasted: hmmm you bought a book doesnt mean you are free to duplicate and sell it. thats why they have a line that reads "Illegal copy of any parts of this book ..."
[19:59] <Galvatron> Roasted: Or other commercial programs like it ;)
[19:59] <escott> padmick, yes. are you in the livecd
[20:00] <s0nee> Roasted: same for DVD.
[20:00] <padmick> ya i am
[20:00] <Roasted> s0nee, good point, I suppose. That said, it's hard to give a damn. I want my library of live concert DVDs on my HTPC for a reason.
[20:00] <pnorman> Mind you, a court might view it differently - I don't think there's a lot of case law around home users making copies for backups
[20:00] <escott> padmick, open the file browser and find and click on the windows drive until you can see its contents
[20:00] <Roasted> pnorman, it's not even so much for backups. It's more for organization.
[20:00] <karaguellek> owdy
[20:01] <s0nee> Roasted: anyway i rip all of my music CDs but I keep it for myself. I dont distribute those
[20:01] <Galvatron> Roasted: I'm sorry, but this stuff - DVD codecs -  isn't a freeware and there is no free alternative.
[20:01] <DJredstar> hi, is there a way that i can separate pages of a PDF file into a separate document?
[20:01] <Roasted> s0nee, hahaha well yeah, I don't intend to upload these or burn copies and sell them out of my trunk :P
[20:01] <padmick> ok got it what am i lookin for?
[20:01] <Roasted> s0nee, I just want themt digitized and on my HTPC for simplicity.
[20:01] <s0nee> Roasted: then you will be ok i guess
[20:01] <Roasted> s0nee, ironically at that point, the physical DVD I have of them becomes my "backup" (hdd in HTPC crashes, etc)
[20:01] <escott> Roasted, the point is that US law is ridiculous, and forces free software users to commit felonies, but canonical cannot take the legal risk of distributing software that actively infringes US law, so you have to run the script
[20:02] <Roasted> Galvatron, I understand. But again, it's hard to give a damn with something so ridiculous. I just wasn't aware it was *this* ridiculous.
[20:02] <padmick> would it be in a folder called ubuntu escott?
[20:02] <escott> padmick, now open a terminal and type "mount" it should tell you what folder the windows partition is mounted to
[20:02] <Roasted> escott, yeah, I definitely hear what pickle canonical is in. I remember reading about it prior, whcih is why medibuntu came about for users who are in countries where there are no codec restrictions.
[20:02] <Roasted> escott, so it's not to say it's illegal period. it's just illegal here in the US.
[20:03] <DJredstar> umm, is there a way that i can separate pages of a pdf file into a separate document?
[20:03] <Roasted> escott, but what script were you referring to again? Is this something pre-installed or is this part of the post-install of libdvdcss?
[20:03] <s0nee> Roasted: i understand. also buying digital copies limits how many times you can copy it i think
[20:03] <escott> padmick, after you have identified where the windows partition is rooted to you can try and find the wubi image file. i don't know where that would be
[20:03] <Roasted> s0nee, buying digital copies?
[20:03] <peterrooney_> Roasted, it's even more ridiculous than that.
[20:03] <Roasted> peterrooney_, I wouldn't doubt it. :P
[20:04] <DJredstar> can someone help me?
[20:04] <Roasted> Is this to say that using Handbrake on Windows/OSX is legal whereas using Handbrake on Linux is not legal?
[20:04] <padmick> escott all i am seein is a hole lade of gibberish in the termal that makes no sence
[20:04] <escott> Roasted, yes not illegal everywhere just the US, but canonical has servers and employees in the US and so must follow US law. similar to how you have to click through and say you live in the US before being able to download stuff like ssh/gpg (maybe the NSA dropped that requirement)
[20:04] <escott> Roasted, in any case the file is in /usr/share/libdvd something
[20:05] <escott> !dvd | Roasted
[20:05] <Galvatron> Roasted: Ubuntu Restricted Extras contain stuff "problematic" in the us, but Medibuntu is a different story, since it contains thing not being a freeware under any circumstances - pirates, in other words.
[20:05] <s0nee> escott: Roasted i suggest if you want to discuss copyright stuffs, use private msg.
[20:05] <Roasted> Galvatron, I fail to see how ANYBODY at all is committing a crime by simply digitizing their already-owned media for viewing on other sources, such as a HTPC.
[20:06] <Roasted> Galvatron, which is where I have to pull the LOL card, as immature as that may sound.
[20:06] <DJredstar> is there a way that i can separate pages of a PDF file into a separate document!?
[20:06] <escott> padmick, mount will output stuff like /dev/sda3 on /path/to/folder type whatever. the point is to figure out where the ntfs partition is mounted so we can later get the full path to the wubi image file
[20:06] <pnorman> My personal view is that the courts would take a dim view of some of the more restrictive provisions if applied to home users, but until that case law takes place, canonical has to take a conservative view.
[20:06] <escott> padmick, you don't have to use mount to figure that out
[20:06] <Roasted> pnorman, I'm not blaming canonical at all for that.
[20:06] <Roasted> pnorman, I'm just speaking from a general standpoint.
[20:06] <DJredstar> why is nobody helping me?!?!?!!
[20:07] <s0nee> Roasted: technically digitalizing that way is illegal. but no one knows that youre doing it
[20:07] <Roasted> escott, I see nothing about libdvdcss in /usr/share
[20:07] <froq> I just set up a windows VM and use dvdfab.
[20:07] <Galvatron> Roasted: As you buy any DVD player, you automatically purchase the codecs, which are a part of it. Not so with getting them from Medibuntu.
[20:07] <ssfdre38> how can i get dual screen working on my system
[20:07] <froq> ssfdre38, you got an nvidia card or ati?
[20:08] <Roasted> Galvatron, right. I get that. But it sounds like it's not even legal to make your own personal backup copy even on a properly licensed codec machine to begin with.
[20:08] <Roasted> Galvatron, which begs the question - if I buy powerdvd, am I committing a felony by ripping a dvd I own?
[20:08] <froq> Roasted, I think you are sir!
[20:08] <ssfdre38> nvidia and i have the driver installed but xorg is putting a white screen on my second screen
[20:08] <DJredstar> i only am asking a simple question: is there a way that i can separate pages in a PDF file into
[20:08] <Roasted> froq, then sign me up for the state pen! :D
[20:08] <DJredstar> a separate document using evince?!
[20:09] <escott> DJredstar, install poppler-utils and use some tools there
[20:09] <froq> Roasted, i agree... I have XBMC running on multple computers throughout the house with over 600 movies dl
[20:09] <DJredstar> thank you!
[20:09] <froq> ssfdre38, you need to use nvidia xserver.
[20:09] <Roasted> froq, I get Canonical's pickle with it. They just want to play smart. I just don't see the big deal unless I turn around and upload it.
[20:09] <Roasted> But wahtever, done deal.
[20:09] <Roasted> Thanks guys!
[20:09] <Galvatron> Roasted: I'm talking only about the legal stuff behind codecs. As I'm from Poland and we have pretty liberal coyright law, I'm not familiar with the US ridiculous laws.;)
[20:09] <ssfdre38> froq, do you know how i can change it over
[20:09] <froq> ssfdre38, you can search for it via hitting windows key and then using the dash home search
[20:10] <Roasted> Galvatron, ahh I envy you at the moment. :P
[20:10] <froq> ssfdre38, just open xserver and it will give you the option
[20:10] <Roasted> Galvatron, although you probably do not envy me, as I am "committing a felony" as we speak.
[20:10] <Roasted> GASP. Anyway, case closed. :P
[20:10] <froq> Roasted, I agree, however I don't think you purchase the right to make copies (regardless of the purpose) when you purchase a DVD.
[20:10] <Galvatron> Roasted: From ethical/moral point of view there's nothing wrong with ripping your legal stuff, unless you share it across the internet.;)
[20:10] <froq> ssfdre38, where you able to find xserver
[20:11] <Roasted> froq, that's what you would call "bull s..."
[20:11] <ssfdre38> no it doesnt show
[20:11] <froq> Roasted, you from US?
[20:11] <Roasted> Galvatron, I hear ya. And that's my intention. I just want to have my live concerts all on my HTPC set up in a que throughout the day instead of swapping DVDs. Failing to see the big deal :P
[20:11] <Roasted> froq, yes
[20:11] <Qation> How can I remove a ppa I added?
[20:11] <Roasted> Qation, go into software sources.
[20:12] <Roasted> Qation, then under other software, youll see PPAs there
[20:12] <ssfdre38> nvm i have it but and its set up for dual screen but its still not working right cause when i move my mouse over i get an x
[20:12] <Qation> you mean /etc/apt/sources.list?
[20:12] <Galvatron> Roasted: If I were you, I would simply ignore the seemingly stupid law.;)
[20:12] <froq> Roasted, me too! Lol... Yeah, I totally think it is crap and there really is no consequence to it because they will never be able to determine if I did it or not as long as I do not upload.  They will never had the option to invade my home and find out.  There would be no probable cause.
[20:12] <Roasted> Qation, not really, its an actual GUI application called software sources.
[20:12] <Roasted> froq, what gets me is even if I use licensed material with licensed codecs, I'm STILL Breaking the law.
[20:13] <Qation> Roasted: Oh okay, thanks
[20:13] <oldos2er> kick me off, i'll just keep coming back.  :)
[20:13] <bastidrazor> Qation, if you added it manually in your sources.list then you can just delete or comment the line, if added by a script then probably in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[20:13] <Roasted> froq, whcih begs the obvious question. If I walk into anybody's house and I find a digitized copy of a video, movie, tv show, concert, anything anywehre in the computer, that person has subsequently committed a felony.
[20:13] <s0nee> Qation: open "software-center" then list the sources
[20:13] <Qation> Alright, I got it thanks
[20:13] <oldos2er> sorry, wrong channel
[20:13] <froq> Roasted, yes they have. :)  unfortunately.
[20:14] <Galvatron> Roasted: Not to menton the US patent law, which makes no sense at all (all this patent trolling and so).;P
[20:14] <ssfdre38> froq, do you know how i can get my second screen working?
[20:14] <froq> ssfdre38, did you find xserver?  from dash search?
[20:15] <ssfdre38> yea i have it open and set up to use dual screen
[20:15] <Roasted> Galvatron, I hear ya. It's a sad world. :(
[20:15] <Galvatron> I'm falling asleep, so I'm going
[20:15] <Galvatron> See ya
[20:15] <s0nee> ssfdre38: are you using a discrete graphic card ?
[20:15] <froq> ssfdre38, go to display configeration
[20:16] <froq> ssfdre38, set it up as a twinview configeration.
[20:17] <ssfdre38> this is what i get http://paste.ssfdre38.com/9
[20:18] <froq> you get this when you do what
[20:18] <froq> ?
[20:18] <ssfdre38> set up twinview
[20:18] <s0nee> froq: if youre running a nvidia card then try "nvidia-settings" ?
[20:19] <froq> s0nee, through terminal?  that only opens nvidia x server settings.
[20:19] <costre> http://xkcd.com/963/
[20:20] <tlvince> in 11.10's login screen, can the keyboard layout be changed?
[20:20] <s0nee> ssfdre38: if youre running a nvidia card then try "nvidia-settings" ?
[20:20] <s0nee> froq: i set my dual screen set up that way
[20:20] <ssfdre38> s0nee, im doing that under root
[20:21] <froq> s0nee, yes!  I suspect you did...  that opens the same thing, and then you set it to twinview I ssupect, or seperate x.
[20:21] <froq> ssfdre38, I don't know why you get such error dude... i am sorry
[20:21] <Newtkiller> hi, I've got a bit of a printer problem...
[20:21] <Newtkiller> I'm getting a missing print filter when I've installed my Cannon printer drivers
[20:21] <daniel> can anyone suggest how i can extract a list of installed packages on ubuntu, without actually being logged in to ubuntu
[20:21] <daniel> my ubuntu is messed up and i need to reinstall it
[20:21] <s0nee> froq: lol i didnt know you told him to open it up. nevermind
[20:22] <ResQue> how can i minimize just the active window with the keyboad?
[20:22] <froq> s0nee, oo haha.. yep yep :)
[20:22] <froq> ssfdre38, what card are you using?
[20:22] <Newtkiller> it's kinda a problem, I've tried everything i can find
[20:23] <Newtkiller> its the ufrii driver on 11.10 64 bit if that helps
[20:23] <ResQue> i got it alt+spacebar" to bring up the active windows context menu, then "n" to select the minimize option
[20:25] <Newtkiller> I've tried installing the 32 bit drivers as one person suggested, but they give me a missing dependency error (even though I have all the dependencies installed)
[20:25] <Roasted> So, one thing I'm not sure of, before I installed libdvdcss just now, I was still able to PLAY DVDs on my computer. How was I able to if libdvdcss was originally needed?
[20:25] <LargePrime> escott: Ctl - Alt -F1 gets no response
[20:26] <Newtkiller> Roasted: It might have been a dvd that didn't have any DRM
[20:27] <Roasted> Newtkiller, oh, well, that's a LOT of DVDs that didn't have any DRM.........
[20:27] <froq> how do you restart the xserver
[20:27] <froq> ?
[20:27] <Roasted> Newtkiller, extra emphasis on a lot... I've wathced a ton on this computer without a single issue.
[20:27] <Newtkiller> same actually
[20:27] <Newtkiller> some just require it i guess
[20:28] <Newtkiller> so yeah, any suggestion toward my printer problem
[20:29] <petisnnake> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 and I have a problem. When I run a speedtest my connection speed averages above 1 Mega / sec regardless of server. When I try loading a webpage via any browser, it takes super long for any website to load. About 20-30 seconds for an average website. Any ideas why? On Windows everything works perfectly
[20:29] <aeon-ltd> petisnnake: try a differnet browser
[20:29] <petisnnake> " via any browser"
[20:30] <aeon-ltd> sorry i skim-read
[20:30] <petisnnake> hehe np :)
[20:30] <aeon-ltd> petisnnake: can you use terminal if so try pinging google.com
[20:30] <murielgodoi> After last update, the notification area on gnome-shell is always been showed, locking the bottom area. Any ideas?
[20:30] <petisnnake> aeon-ltd: about 30-35 ms
[20:31] <aeon-ltd> petisnnake: what about downloading something with wget? is it slow?
[20:32] <petisnnake> aeon-ltd: I will try it out. Don't know what to download with wget
[20:32] <tlvince> can you change keyboard layout in lightdwm?
[20:32] <aeon-ltd> petisnnake: just try a webpage like ubuntus homepage
[20:33] <tlvince> how about on the on-screen keyboard?
[20:33] <kjeet> hi, X crashed on me so I rebooted my machine... now my mouse works in login screen but not anymore
[20:34] <escott> LargePrime, if you can't ctrl-alt-f1 then your system is probably locked up. does the capslock light work
[20:34] <kjeet> **not after i log in
[20:34] <robin0800> petisnnake, some iso is quite good
[20:34] <petisnnake> I tried the ubuntu homepage, it took pretty long
[20:35] <petisnnake> about 10-13 seconds
[20:35] <petisnnake> and the speed that is displayed is 200 KB/ s
[20:35] <petisnnake> it sits a long time on the Resolving www.ubuntu.com...   part
[20:35] <LargePrime> sorry, escott I rebooted into recover and dropped to root and logged in
[20:36] <petisnnake> and in the browser it gets stuck on the "Waiting for http://foo.bar" parts
[20:36] <LargePrime> should i reboot and see if the caps lock works
[20:36] <petisnnake> any ideas aeon-ltd, robin0800?
[20:37] <escott> LargePrime, if you have a recovery console you should work from there
[20:37] <aeon-ltd> petisnnake: try disabling ipv6
[20:37] <aeon-ltd> petisnnake: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[20:37] <petisnnake> aeon-ltd: entirely, or for a specific browser?
[20:37] <aeon-ltd> petisnnake: entirely
[20:38] <improveupon> if anyone has a minute: is it possible to get a live cd of oneiric?
[20:38] <robin0800> petisnnake, have you tried an iso file
[20:38] <reisio> improveupon: what's your processor?
[20:39] <improveupon> x64
[20:39] <reisio> http://mirror.yellowfiber.net/ubuntu/oneiric/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso http://mirror.yellowfiber.net/ubuntu/oneiric/SHA1SUMS
[20:39] <petisnnake> aeon-ltd: It seems I dont have it enabled at all, since lsmod | grep ipv6 doesn't return a thing
[20:39] <LargePrime> escott: I m in the recover CLI, but i an a bit CLI disabled
[20:40] <tziOm> apt-get install package --reinstall does not actually reinstall!
[20:40] <escott> LargePrime, so first ls /etc/X11/*.conf and does it list any files there
[20:40] <robin0800> improveupon, you can download one is that what you mean?
[20:41] <tziOm> that is .. I removed a etc dir, because some configs has errors (/etc/opennms) .. anyway, when running apt-get install opennms --reinstall, the files are not created.
[20:41] <improveupon> petis: i am getting a 404 not found
[20:41] <improveupon> thank you anyway
[20:41] <LargePrime> escott:  after logging in the CLI does not respond
[20:42] <vleran> hi
[20:42] <peterrooney_> !confmiss
[20:42] <escott> LargePrime, so ls[ENTER] doesn't respond
[20:43] <LargePrime> nope.  no characters echo to the screen
[20:43] <reisio> vleran: hi
[20:44] <vleran> quit
[20:44] <ResQue> does anyone know the google keyboard shortcut to open a selected search result in a new tab
[20:44] <ResQue> the 20:42 < escott> LargePrime, so ls[ENTER] doesn't respond
[20:45] <ResQue> 20:43 ::: jsurfer [~mdesales@c-69-181-202-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined  #ubuntu
[20:46] <peterrooney_> tziOm: check out the apt/dpkg  option 'confmiss' - dpkg believes you deliberately want the configuration files that way
[20:46] <LargePrime> ???
[20:46] <escott> LargePrime, but you had the login/password dialogs and they seemed to work
[20:46] <peterrooney_> tziOm: been a long time since I've seen THAT issue...
[20:46] <phill> .hi
[20:46] <LargePrime> the did.  prefectaly.  once login happend the machine seems to lock up
[20:46] <phill> hi
[20:46] <Dave888> STFU!
[20:46] <tziOm> problem is I think that it is mulltiple packages...
[20:47] <tziOm> and the "opennms" package does not contain the etc files...
[20:47] <escott> LargePrime, and this was the recovery console without the gui that locked up
[20:47] <tziOm> hmm -.. perhaps.
[20:47] <phill> true
[20:48] <LargePrime> yes.  booted recover CLI.  Logged in the CLI and it locked up.  still flashing cursor, but nothing responds/echos
[20:48] <LargePrime> should i just reinstall?
[20:49] <escott> LargePrime, im skeptical because this seems unlikely if you got past the login there isn't much that should be able to cause the system to lockup like that. but its going to be a pain to fix if it really isn't working from a recovery console
[20:49] <tziOm> I do not! understand this! .. when I run dpkg -l package.deb, I see /etc/opennms/files .. but when I install it, the etc files are not created!
[20:49] <tziOm> dpkg -c i mean.
[20:51] <LargePrime> then reinstall.  I wont suck your time, when a reinstall is probably cheaper
[20:51] <LargePrime> thank you escott
[20:51] <Roasted> So, one thing I'm not sure of, before I installed libdvdcss just now, I was still able to PLAY DVDs on my computer. How was I able to if libdvdcss was originally needed?
[20:52] <reisio> Roasted: already had it?
[20:52] <reisio> or the DVDs you played weren't encrypted
[20:53] <robin0800> Roasted, you can only play non encrypted dvd's without it
[20:53] <tziOm> Can someone please tell me how to actually reinstall a package in ubuntu, since --reinstall _does not_ reinstall shit
[20:53] <Roasted> reisio, never had it. although, does installing restricted-extras enable me to play dvds similar to what libdvdcss does?
[20:53] <reisio> Roasted: I thought restricted-extras included libdvdcss
[20:54] <Roasted> reisio, I don't think it INCLUDES libdvdcss, unless I was doing something wrong. I was just ripping a live concert DVD I had for my HTPC and I had to install libdvdcss separately.
[20:54] <aeon-ltd> tziOm: you do the same for installing except it says you have it installed would you like to reinstall
[20:54] <Roasted> reisio, but once I installed libdvdcss I was able to rip it. That being said, I wonder if ubuntu-restricted-extras provided me with enough functionality to play DVDs without issue?
[20:54] <escott> Roasted, it includes it but doesnt copy the "illegal" files to the right place
[20:55] <Roasted> escott, can you elaborate? What do you mean it doesnt copy the illegal files?
[20:55] <reisio> "To play DVDs, you also need to install libdvdcss by opening a terminal and entering the following in addition to installing the restricted extras package: "
[20:55] <Roasted> reisio, so it is separate.
[20:55] <reisio> no...
[20:55] <Roasted> reisio, ah wait
[20:56] <pangolin> Roasted: more like not enabled
[20:56] <Roasted> reisio, read that wrong. I thought it said by entering it and the following... meaning... libdvdcss AND restricted extras.
[20:56] <reisio> doesn't matter, it's simple logic as I already stated
[20:56] <robin0800> tziOm, sudo aptitude reinstall
[20:56] <Roasted> reisio, right, I just read it wrong.
[20:56] <reisio> Roasted: already had it?
[20:56] <reisio> or the DVDs you played weren't encrypted
[20:56] <reisio> one or the other
[20:57] <tziOm> aeon-ltd: yeps.. apt-get install opennnms --reinstall
[20:57] <Roasted> reisio, I see. I must have had unencrypted DVDs then. A lot of them. In fact, a truckload of them, even new ones. Because I had restricted extars installed but I wa able to play DVDs fine. However once I tried to rip a DVD, I could not, and I had to install libdvdcss separately.
[20:57] <tziOm> it seems to be going fine, but it more or less does not do shit.
[20:57] <MrJones> hello
[20:57] <reisio> if that's what you want to believe
[20:57] <pangolin> tziOm: Please mind your language
[20:57] <MrJones> ipv6 in nginx seems to be broken
[20:57] <escott> Roasted, we went over this 20 minutes ago you have to run the script in !dvd
[20:57] <MrJones> ubuntu 10.04/nginx 0.8.5
[20:57] <escott> !dvd | Roasted
[20:58] <tziOm> language is influenced by --reinstall
[20:58] <Roasted> reisio, there's nothing to believe. that's the only explanation, as libdvdcss was not installed. otherwise it would have returned with it already being installed, whcih, it did not. Not to mention, once I installed it, handbrake operated predictably.
[20:58] <escott> Roasted, sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[20:58] <MrJones> if I replace nginx's listen 80 with a listen [::]:80 to get ipv6, this happens: http://fpaste.org/N48J/ while netstat shows that port 80 isn't in use at all. and ipv4 (old listen 80 directive) works perfectly
[20:58] <Roasted> escott, got it
[20:58] <Roasted> escott, sounds like you still need to install libdvdcss, along with that command.
[20:59] <escott> Roasted, its basically an additional step to make it like a legal click through to protect canonical
[20:59] <reisio> Roasted: only you can confirm that
[20:59] <reisio> there's no point telling me
[21:00] <Roasted> reisio, I was just responding in reference to the "if that's what you want to believe." Point being, this isn't a religious discussion. It's how things happened on my system.
[21:00] <Roasted> escott, So by installing libdvdcss, then running that .sh command, you're thereby making libdvdcss legal to utilize for DVD playback?
[21:00] <enix316> anyone here familar with scp?
[21:00] <Roasted> escott, all thanks to running the .sh command afterwards?
[21:00] <reisio> there's just no point stating that, only you can confirm it :p
[21:00] <TheEvilPhoenix> enix316:  what about it?
[21:00] <reisio> enix316: I invented it
[21:00] <escott> Roasted, you are indicating that it is legal for you to circumvent css
[21:01] <enix316> TheEvilPhoenix: http://pastebin.com/xSPuP3eb
[21:01] <Roasted> escott, I'm indicating? I'm indicating nothing. I'm asking.
[21:01] <reisio> it is some places
[21:01] <enix316> reisio: http://pastebin.com/xSPuP3eb
[21:01] <rumpel1> enix316, the chances are high that one of the approx. 1500 user here know a bit about it :)
[21:01] <enix316> rumpel1: good, maybe i will figure this out. :)
[21:01] <escott> Roasted, by running that command you are indicating...
[21:02] <Roasted> escott, oh! gotcha...
[21:02] <Roasted> escott, I wonder what exactly that command does... and if it matters if I'd run it at all...
[21:03] <escott> Roasted, you can read the script it just copies some files around
[21:03] <robin0800> Roasted, its a fact here in the uk shop optained dvd's will not play in ubuntu with just restricted extras installed
[21:03] <reisio> enix316: what makes you think they move 100+GB
[21:03] <escott> Roasted, less /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[21:03] <mauro_> good evening
[21:03] <reisio> evening
[21:04] <Roasted> escott, yeah I'm reading over it now. Even still, I'm failing to see what the script even does, or what the point of it is. I mean, libdvdcss is the key ingredient. I just fail to see what relevance this script provides.
[21:04] <mauro_> how i can activate hdmi output on nvidia optimus laptop?
[21:04] <enix316> reisio: because it maxes out my HDD, thats how much data is in the folder.
[21:04] <reisio> Roasted: it's not so much that it exists, rather that it isn't automatically run in some distros
[21:04] <reisio> enix316: in the copied folder
[21:04] <reisio> enix316: how did you determine it
[21:04] <Roasted> I mean, 6 years of Ubuntu, and only today I hear of this .sh script. Meanwhile restricted extras and libdvdcss I've heard about all along.
[21:05] <enix316> reisio: du -sh and df -h
[21:05] <reisio> enix316: du -sh /home/ev/backupev ?
[21:05] <escott> Roasted, it is there to protect canonical from a lawsuit in the US
[21:06] <Roasted> escott, but libdvdcss isn't installed by default in ubuntu. so how is it protecting anything?
[21:07] <enix316> reisio: right now that folder is empty. I just did df -h from / on the remote machine: 106GB free
[21:07] <escott> Roasted, because it could get installed without specific instruction by the user if they install something like a media player, and then canonical could get sued for facilitating felonious behavior
[21:07] <reisio> but that's the commnad you ran?
[21:07] <reisio> and it was more than 21GB
[21:07] <enix316> reisio: yes
[21:08] <reisio> enix316: you might have some symlinks
[21:08] <enix316> reisio: much more, folder ev has ~33k files, when i delete folder on remote machine it removes ~999k
[21:08] <Roasted> escott, so you're saying a user can install a media player (for example) that might call for libdvdcss as a dependency, which would install libdvdcss as well. But then what? Does the script kick in and run after its installed to protect canonical?
[21:08] <reisio> enix316: either tar and pipe to scp, or use rsync (with -e ssh if you like)
[21:09] <froq> well I found out something cool!!  when trying to isntall nvidia driver, I kept getting an error of nouveau driver already present.  I jus thad to set the vga=0 so prevent that from booting up.
[21:09] <enix316> reisio: vaguley familar with pipeing, will look into it more. and you are syaing tar the folder first/
[21:09] <enix316> reisio:
[21:10] <enix316> reisio: *?*
[21:10] <reisio> enix316: yes you can either tar it up and then scp the .tar, or tar and pipe to scp in one step
[21:10] <reisio> whichever you're more comfortable with
[21:10] <reisio> or use rsync instead
[21:10] <enix316> reisio: right using a pipe to complete 2 functions in one command
[21:10] <doomrobo> is it possible to install grub to my ubuntu partition, then install chameleon on the MBR of another disk and still have it recognize disk #1 to boot from?
[21:11] <reisio> dunno what chameleon is, besides something with a poor name
[21:11] <doomrobo> bootloader for hackintoshes
[21:11] <doomrobo> here's the article: http://www.dailyblogged.com/1028/booting-ubuntu-with-the-chameleon-bootloader/
[21:11] <escott> Roasted, the script is NOT run without specific user interaction protecting canonical from the charge that a user installed a media player and unwittingly was induced into a violation of US law
[21:11] <LargePrime> escott: have you a moment?
[21:11] <ethern0t> haillo
[21:12] <reisio> hi
[21:12] <doomrobo> I have Windows and Ubuntu on one disk and OSX on another, how do I get a unified bootloader?
[21:12] <escott> LargePrime, sure
[21:12] <ResQue> how can i see the dns server address sent via the networks dhcp server
[21:12] <LargePrime> I am reinstalling.  this will be a minecraft server.  how shall i configer the Drive?
[21:13] <LargePrime> entire disk with LVM?
[21:13] <doomrobo> ramdisk?
[21:13] <Roasted> escott, which begs the obvious question. Libdvdcss is not installed by default. This script is not ran without user interaction. In order to install libdvdcss, you must install it, requiring user interaction. So if running the script (or installing libdvdcss) requires user interaction, I just fail to see the point of it. I hate to sound like an idiot but I just don't understand the relevance of its existence.
[21:13] <LargePrime> only have 3 GB
[21:13] <escott> doomrobo, yes i think chameleon can chain load grub, although having grub on a pbr is less stable than on the mbr
[21:13] <reisio> doomrobo: you should be able to use GRUB(2) alone
[21:13] <yeats> doomrobo: you might ask in #grub
[21:13] <doomrobo> ok, thank you
[21:14] <llutz> Roasted: its the easiest way to get libdvdcss, unfortunately nearly nobody knows about the script
[21:14] <escott> Roasted, ask a US lawyer if it doesn't make sense to you. yes it is annoying, US law is annoying. im explaining the rationale for it
[21:14] <ResQue> doomrobo: i would use refit
[21:15] <Roasted> llutz, that's just it. 6 years with Ubuntu, and I have NEVER heard of this script.
[21:15] <escott> LargePrime, LVM is useful if you plan to expand/shrink/move partitions, otherwise its not that useful
[21:15] <behelit> hi. ok, new to ubuntu. if i want to install a package that is included, but of an old version, should i just compile from source, or are there other mirrors that are more up to date?
[21:15] <LargePrime> is there a cost to LVM?
[21:15] <escott> !pinning | behelit
[21:16] <escott> behelit, check the mirrors/your /var/cache/apt for the old deb, then pin
[21:16] <behelit> escott: will check it out, thanks!
[21:16] <behelit> it's odd that 11.04 would ship with almost two year old version of erlang :)
[21:17] <escott> LargePrime, makes booting a bit harder + some performance cost, but probably minimal performance issues
[21:17] <llutz> Roasted: problem is that it wasn't advertised since lots of forum-owners etc were afraid to get sued and so they censored everything css-related etc.pp.
[21:17] <doomrobo> ResQue: I use rEFIt for my mac, this is a desktop. Hackintosh baby!
[21:18] <behelit> escott: i can upgrade to a later version of ubuntu if the package i need is updated. i though 11.04 was the latest, apparently i was wrong. know where i can check what versions of packages are included in the later version?
[21:19] <escott> behelit, you can /qry ubottu and then !info the package name on IRC or find the package list online
[21:19] <Polah> !info erlang | behelit
[21:20] <behelit> that's a more recent version. perfect. thanks!
[21:20] <doomrobo> this isn't working very well. In ubuntu there are 1500+ people. 84 in grub
[21:21] <ResQue> how can i view edit my dns servers from the terminal?
[21:21] <sbte> hi, why does setting the default browser in oneiric not change the sensible-browser browser?
[21:21] <escott> ResQue, /etc/resolv.conf, but network manager will overwrite the file contents
[21:22] <ResQue> escott: yes i have read the file, so how should i set or check my current dns servers?
[21:22] <ResQue> maybe there is a terminal app i can use
[21:22] <robin0800> Roasted, you don't need a script the file in deb format is freely available from vlc site home page
[21:23] <Roasted> robin0800, what deb?
[21:23] <llutz> ResQue: you use networkmanager? rightclick on applet, edit connection, set dns
[21:23] <ResQue> llutz: how can i do this from the terminal
[21:23] <flaguy48> ResQue: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[21:24] <ResQue> flaguy48: and if i would like to edit my dns server, for example change it to openDNS?
[21:24] <escott> ResQue, there is nmcli, but its mostly used for enabling/switching between established networkmanager profiles
[21:24] <llutz> ResQue: what do you want to achieve, set your own fixed dns?" sudo apt-get install resolvconf " edit /etc/resolvconf/resolvconf.d/base  and add your nameserver there
[21:24] <robin0800> Roasted, libdvdcss2 and incidentally it actually cracks the encryption
[21:24] <escott> ResQue, is there a reason why you want to do this from the cli instead of the gui
[21:25] <CQN> hi, i'm having trouble with using vdpau: http://askubuntu.com/questions/73448/all-of-screen-except-thin-bar-at-top-turns-black-when-vdpau-used
[21:25] <CQN> can anyone help me out?
[21:25] <fatboy21007> Why do i keep getting an Error message in PlayOnLinux, keeps says i dont have 3d acceleration n tells me to install it, but additional drivers doesnt have that option
[21:25] <Roasted> robin0800, it "cracks" the encryption by reading it as a block device, from what I understand. Not that it's any better, but it's different than Ie xpected.
[21:26] <robin0800> Roasted, correct
[21:26] <ResQue> escott: yes i dont like the GUI, also i plan on putting this into a script file that will be run by OpenVPN
[21:26] <escott> ResQue, the suggested way to do this is to establish the profile with the gui, and then use nmcli to switch to that profile. otherwise you are going to be fighting network manager
[21:26] <ResQue> escott: i am planning on running my own local dns server with Bind to learn more about it, and i want to understand how to set/change the dns server of local computers on my network. maybe even have two running at once
[21:27] <flaguy48> ResQue: edit /etc/dhcp/shclient.conf Look at 'prepend'.
[21:27] <ResQue> escott: can you not call network manager from the CLI?
[21:28] <escott> ResQue, nmcli is the tool to do that, but its mostly intended to switch profiles
[21:28] <escott> ResQue, just look at man nmcli
[21:28] <alex_____> hey guys
[21:29] <alex_____> any one can help me?
[21:29] <alex_____> any one can help me with ubuntu
[21:29] <escott> !help | alex_____
[21:29] <ResQue> flaguy48: thanks whats the difference between /etc/dhcp and /etc/dhcp3 folder
[21:30] <alex_____> yeah
[21:30] <ResQue> escott: ok mate thanks for the adivce, i will look into this
[21:30] <alex_____> i cahnge my ubuntu teheme with magic icons
[21:30] <alex_____> i want to get my deafult theame
[21:30] <flaguy48> ResQue: Dunno :)
[21:30] <alex_____> how to restroe my deafuld themes?
[21:30] <ResQue> escott: seems odd to me there isnt a simpler way todo this. is there a reason why there is not just a simple dns server change command?
[21:31] <ResQue> flaguy48: ok i wil google it thanks for the advice
[21:32] <GBABY> hello
[21:32] <escott> ResQue, there is. its a checkbox and a textbox in the gui :)
[21:32] <GBABY> any one familer with screensaver
[21:32] <escott> !anyone | GBABY
[21:32] <flaguy48> ResQue: I think you can just change some lookups on the fly by editing /etc/resolv.conf
[21:32] <GBABY> how can i run a screen saver as a videostream of a url???
[21:33] <alex_____> how to restore theme in ubuntu
[21:34] <R3db3ard> !register
[21:34] <escott> GBABY, there were screensavers to do that with xscreensaver. im not sure if they still exist or how they would be done with gnome-screensaver. i would find the screensaver name under xscreensaver and see if google suggests how to use it with gnome-screensaver
[21:36] <GBABY> hmm
[21:37] <_X__> hi, has anyone a gobi 3000 umts modem running?
[21:38] <miceiken> zykotick9, hey, you here today too?
[21:39] <Guest34655> How do you change the Unity Sidebar Theme? (Example Download new ones and install them)? Website would be great too
[21:39] <ResQue> is rc.local the best place to run a command only once when the system starts up?
[21:39] <escott> ResQue, yes
[21:39] <diamonds> hi
[21:39] <diamonds> when I right click in FF the menu disappears on mouse-move
[21:40] <ResQue> escott: thanks
[21:40] <diamonds> I see posts about this for FF 3 but I'm using... 7 I think
[21:40] <diamonds> perhaps here.... https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/753329
[21:40] <miceiken> Yesterday, a while after I plugged in a SD-card in my reader it showed up in 'dmesg', but today it won't show after I plugged it in, any ideas?
[21:40] <diamonds> oh no that's within the menu bar menus, mine is on the page
[21:41] <diamonds> i.e. right click : open in new tab
[21:41] <ultrav1olet> can someone running Ubuntu 11.10 and an SMP system show me the output of "ls /sys/devices/system/cpu/"?
[21:41] <ultrav1olet> any modern dual/quad core CPU will do
[21:43] <zvacet> in 11.10 in home directory all folders look like files I tried all themes but it is always the same
[21:43] <escott> ultrav1olet, cpu0  cpu3     kernel_max  possible  release cpu1  cpufreq  offline     present   sched_mc_power_savings cpu2  cpuidle  online      probe     sched_smt_power_savings
[21:44] <ultrav1olet> escott: then please echo /sys/devices/system/cpu/sched_mc_power_savings /sys/devices/system/cpu/sched_smt_power_savings
[21:45] <GBABY> ty sorry i was on the phone escott
[21:45] <zvacet> it was o.k until today how to fix this?
[21:45] <ultrav1olet> ooops I meant cat instead of echo
[21:45] <escott> ultrav1olet, 0 0
[21:46] <ultrav1olet> escott: thank you!
[21:46] <reise6> If I open a window in workspace 1 it's decorated; if I open it in any other workspace it's not decorated. any ideas?
[21:47] <escott> reise6, workspace not monitor correct? gnome3 or unity
[21:47] <reise6> I use gnome3
[21:47] <zvacet> I foget to say in it unity problem
[21:49] <escott> reise6, what happens if you shift-ctrl-alt-down_arrow does the window lose its decorations
[21:49] <reise6> nope, it keeps its decoration
[21:49] <reise6> what is that key combination supposed to do?
[21:50] <escott> reise6, drags the window down to the next workspace below
[21:50] <reise6> ahh that key combination is not doing that for me, but when I move the windows between workspaces decoration isn't lost
[21:51] <reise6> it only affects windows opened in workspaces other than the first one
[21:51] <escott> so if you have a terminal in worskapce 1 and run xclock & it is decorated, but if you then drag the terminal to workspace 2 and run xclock & you get a clock without decoration
[21:52] <reise6> that is correct based on my tests, but I'll confirm that with xclock right now
[21:52] <diamonds> is there any way to change the appearance of Empathy, or is it just permanently ugly?
[21:53] <LargePrime> escott: can you recommend a ssh windows client for use with ubuntu
[21:53] <diamonds> I can't find any "preferences" or "settings" in the menu
[21:53] <escott> LargePrime, putty
[21:53] <reise6> escott: It was decorated in workspaces 1 and 2, undecorated in workspaces 3 and 4
[21:54] <iceroot> is it possible to encrypt an already used ext4-partition without reformating the partiton?
[21:54] <escott> reise6, that is really strange. obviously mutter is screwed up somehow, but im not sure how. is this a fresh install of gnome-shell from 11.10? and does it persist across logouts
[21:54] <escott> iceroot, no, but you can use ecryptfs
[21:54] <reise6> this is 11.04 and persists between logouts
[21:55] <dr_willis> reise6:  how about making a new user. and seeing if it affects them also..
[21:55] <reise6> it's not exactly a fresh install, I've played with it a bit. but I haven't done that much to window management
[21:55] <reise6> okay, I'll give that a try
[21:55] <iceroot> escott: i will have a look at it
[21:55] <jowop> hello, i installed ubuntu natty (server) and selected only to auto install security updates. how can i change this to auto install all updates?
[21:55] <dr_willis> I cant imagine what could be the issue reise6  :) thats a very weird... thing.
[21:55] <escott> reise6, i would go to 11.10. i wouldn't trust the gnome3 ppa for 11.04. i intentionally skipped it and went beta for 3 months
[21:57] <reise6> If making a new user doesn't work I'll try to upgrade then. This completely goes against my rule of avoiding system upgrades during midterm week. :)
[21:59] <escott> reise6, and i wouldnt recommend an upgrade, but a complete reinstall
[21:59] <diamonds> does empathy really have NO configuration options?
[22:00] <diamonds> I just have to look at enormous user icons or get another client?
[22:00] <adante> hi
[22:00] <adante> how can i stop my compute spamming me with "hard disk problems detected"
[22:01] <ircdearia> I downloaded this flash player 10.1. How do I install it?  I am at pof
[22:01] <adante> if i go to sleep and wake up there are tens of dialog boxes up with this message, to the point where my x session has locked up
[22:01] <ircdearia> Cause mine worked on the other computer, the other laptop, but it doesn't work on this one.
[22:01] <dr_willis> ircdearia:  its best to use the package mabnager tools to install flash..
[22:01] <ahrimen> I can't log into my ubuntu 11.10 system anymore. How do I find out what is happening?
[22:01] <escott> adante, sounds like it is crashing on suspend/hibernate. disable suspend/hibernate or try and debug it
[22:02] <ircdearia> dr_willis: so synaptic package manager?
[22:02] <dr_willis> ircdearia:  any of the tools should work.
[22:02] <dr_willis> !flash
[22:02] <ircdearia> dr_willis, what do you mean?
[22:02] <adante> escott: it is not, it is a dialog box that comes up periodically because one of my hard disks is failing
[22:02] <escott> adante, then replace the failing disk
[22:02] <dr_willis> ircdearia:  software cenbter, apt-get, synaptic, aptitude....
[22:02] <adante> escott: i do not want to i just want to not have x crash
[22:02] <yeats> diamonds: I would use pidgin - it's far more configurable
[22:03] <diamonds> yeats: downloading it now ;)
[22:03] <anil_> hey people
[22:03] <ahrimen> i get to the login screen but each time i try to log in it just goes back to the login screen
[22:03] <ircdearia> dr_willis, thanks, and excuse my questions... I'm relaying conversation between someone obnoxiously and overwhelmingly computer illiterate =/
[22:03] <anil_> how to reset ubuntu setting
[22:03] <dr_willis> ahrimen:  go to the console, try to login there.
[22:03] <anil_> i want my ubuntu a deauft
[22:03] <Polah> anil_: Reinstalling would be the easiest way.
[22:04] <anil_> how to reset my ubuntu setting
[22:04] <dr_willis> anil_:  which defaults..  all the user settings are in various .* files int heir home dir.. you could move them all to some BackupDir. then log out/back in.
[22:04] <anil_> i dont want to reinstall
[22:04] <anil_> i install third party themse
[22:04] <anil_> but i change themse again
[22:04] <ahrimen> dr_willis How do i private message?
[22:04] <anil_> but icon colour still in same colour
[22:04] <dr_willis> ahrimen:  /pm foo
[22:05] <anil_> i want to restore my themese as deafult
[22:05] <dr_willis> ahrimen:  or /msg foo
[22:05] <family> can somone andswer a question on this site. http://tinyurl.com/ubuntu104Question
[22:05] <dr_willis> depends on the clients.
[22:05] <ahrimen> irssi
[22:05] <anil_> how get dault themese
[22:05] <dr_willis> time to check the irssi docs :)
[22:05] <ahrimen> in irssi /msg and /pm not working
[22:05] <dr_willis> bbl off to work.
[22:05] <ahrimen> dr_willis: I can not go into ubuntu 11.10 recovery console, I have to use the <ctrl><alt>F1 console to log in
[22:06] <diamonds> yeats: I'm really confused about empathy... perhaps it's just not working? http://i.imgur.com/87Iye.png
[22:06] <ahrimen> dr_willis: using that is how I'm here.
[22:06] <diamonds> is it supposed to look like this? http://i.imgur.com/87Iye.png It looks totally unstyled
[22:06] <miceiken> Yesterday, a while after I plugged in a SD-card in my reader it showed up in 'dmesg', but today it won't show after I plugged it in, any ideas?
[22:06] <dr_willis> ahrimen:  theres no need to PM me   a question anyway. :)
[22:06] <escott> diamonds, thats the empathy theme
[22:06] <dr_willis> bye all.. back later.
[22:06] <diamonds> escott: It's also the complete absence of styling :D
[22:06] <escott> diamonds, and it does sound like your theme is messed up. go into preferences and select a different theme the default install comes with 3 or 4 of them
[22:07] <IarryeIIison> seeya doc!
[22:07] <diamonds> escott: I have no preferences option
[22:07] <diamonds> escott: can you see my screenshot?
[22:07] <ahrimen> I can't log into my ubuntu 11.10 system anymore. How do I find out what is happening?
[22:07] <diamonds> escott: I can't find "preferences" in the options
[22:07] <ahrimen> i get to the login screen but each time i try to log in it just goes back to the login screen
[22:08] <escott> diamonds, open the windows with all your contacts not the conversation window
[22:08] <escott> ahrimen, try and install an alternate session such as unity-2d or gnome-shell and select that on login
[22:08] <ahrimen> i have, can't use any of them
[22:08] <ahrimen> not even recovery console
[22:09] <ahrimen> i can through a guest account
[22:09] <diamonds> escott: how do I even do that? There doesn't seem to be a "buddies" menu option
[22:09] <Mokilok> How do I mount a remote admin share?
[22:09] <escott> diamonds, you closed it at some point, you just need to reopen it from the panel
[22:10] <diamonds> escott: yeah I closed the "buddies" list
[22:10] <diamonds> I'm clicking on the empathy icon on the panel, right clicking...
[22:10] <escott> ahrimen, if you can get a guest session its almost certainly a screwed up .config which is causing gnome-session to crash. ctrl-alt-f1 and use that to move .config to .config.bak
[22:11] <ahrimen> cool, gonna try that out now thank you
[22:12] <danslo> Now that I'm here anyway, looks like the latest 11.10 upgrade broke my nautilus styling (looks like GTK theme is not applied?) - anyone else had this issue? :)
[22:12] <diamonds> w/e, the fact that I can't easily figure out how to open the buddies menu is just a testament to this program's unacceptable usability
[22:13] <diamonds> If someone even has to ask for help with such a simple task, the program is shite.
[22:13] <Dark-Show> yo
[22:13] <diamonds> why ubuntu bundles such crap, which reflects so poorly on the OS, is a mystery to me.
[22:14] <Dark-Show> sup people?
[22:14] <zvacet> 11.10  & unity in home directory instead of folders I see something like files how to fix that? tnx
[22:14] <tables> what must i install to get opengl?  i think i need the 'glxinfo' program
[22:14] <escott> diamonds, is this in unity?
[22:14] <hank_> hello does anyone know how to enable bluetooth in jolicloud?!
[22:14] <diamonds> escott: yes, 11.10
[22:14] <escott> tables, you dont need the glxinfo command its just for debugging
[22:14] <hank_> or a shortcut
[22:15] <tables> ok i need it though
[22:15] <tables> to make sure opengl is working or not
[22:15] <ahrimen> escott, do i need to restart the machine? nothin changed when I moved .config to .config.bak
[22:15] <tables> unless there's another way?
[22:15] <tables> escott,
[22:15] <Dark-Show> does anyone love free video sites? goto this new one: dark-show.ath.cx
[22:15] <escott> diamonds, well it works in gnome-shell although they broke everything else about the shell integration with empathy
[22:15] <zachrose\> Could anybody what owner settings I should use to share my home directory on an Ubuntu VM to the mac that's hosting it?
[22:15] <diamonds> Huh! It looks like if I search the application name in the overlay thing and click that, THEN I can get a new contacts list
[22:15] <ahrimen> escott, when you say move .config you do mean ~/.config correct?
[22:16] <diamonds> what a POS
[22:16] <hank_> anyone know the shortcut for bluetooth
[22:16] <escott> ahrimen, yes. they may be some other config file that needs to be moved, but i would have picked .config as the most likely
[22:16] <auronandace> hank_: jolicloud isn't supported here
[22:16] <escott> tables, well glxinfo is provided by mesa-utils
[22:16] <hank_> oh
[22:17] <t0bis> Hi there
[22:17] <LargePrime> escott: do you have a VNC recommendation too?  Please and thank you.
[22:17] <hank_> but does anyone know lol
[22:17] <diamonds> escott: any clue as to why ubuntu bundles it rather than pidgin, if (as you say) integration is all messed up and as I say it looks like absolute ass?
[22:17] <t0bis> I looking for someone with some knowledge on Regex and shell scripting
[22:18] <Jordan_U> !anyone | t0bis
[22:18] <diamonds> !poll
[22:18] <escott> diamonds, not 100% sure why the switch was from pidgin to empathy, but the integration with gnome3 looks like it could be very nice. i think they just messed it up trying to do their own integration with unity
[22:18] <Dark-Show> t0bis
[22:18] <hank_> whats the best channel for jolicloud support
[22:18] <cronos10> Hat jemand Erfahrung mit einem Linux Multiboot system?
[22:18] <ahrimen> escott, any idea what else i can move around?
[22:18] <Jordan_U> !de | cronos10
[22:18] <diamonds> !anyone | cronos10
[22:19] <escott> diamonds, the shell integration is like 90% there. i just have trouble sometimes opening conversation windows when ive been having them through the shell
[22:19] <t0bis> Does anyone have some knowledge on Regex and shell script ?
[22:19] <thithib> Hello guys, i have a little bug with gnome-shell
[22:19] <diamonds> escott: empathy works from bash?
[22:19] <NerdsMG> Hey guys, I'm having a bit of a problem trying to boot the 11.04 LiveCD on my MacBookPro. Has anyone been able to do so? It looks like it's a bug in the kernel. :(
[22:19] <diamonds> huh! I've been using finch when I need such things
[22:19] <escott> ahrimen, try .compiz and .compiz-1 .gconf .gnome2 etc
[22:19] <Jordan_U> t0bis: Please just ask your actual question / state your end goal.
[22:19] <diamonds> but frankly I prefer gui for chat applications
[22:20] <escott> diamonds, no its gnome-shell notifications. you can type into the notifications and send recieve while having the convo window closed
[22:20] <Jordan_U> NerdsMG: What happens when you try to boot it? Why 11.04 rather than 11.10?
[22:21] <Iarryellison> NerdsMG:you must use the right distro for your architecture
[22:21] <NerdsMG> Jordan_U: I'm sorry, I've tried both. They load grub fine, but I get an error saying that it's unable to load a rootfs
[22:21] <escott> NerdsMG, did you check the md5sums
[22:21] <NerdsMG> escott:Yes, They matched
[22:21] <escott> NerdsMG, and the burn was good?
[22:22] <NerdsMG> Iarryellison: I used the amd64 version, and escott: Yes, It boots on my desktop machine
[22:22] <hank_> well does anyone know how to get into jolicloud settings like preferences and adminstration like ubuntu
[22:23] <Jordan_U> NerdsMG: Somehow the kernel isn't able to access your CDROM drive, this can be worked around by using the minimal install CD (the entire installer is loaded into memory by the bootloader, before the kernel even starts).
[22:23] <thithib> Here's my problem : I usually shut down my laptop using the command "halt", but since I installed Ubuntu 11.10 and gnome-shell, the command "halt" causes a freeze of my screen while it's purple with the ubuntu logo. However when I use the GI to shut down, it works. Have you any idea ?
[22:23] <NerdsMcG_> Sorry about that guys, Thought I was on wireless.
[22:23] <escott> thithib, try shutdown -h now
[22:24] <Jordan_U> hank_: You have already been told that jolicloud is not supported here. Please stop asking.
[22:24] <NerdsMcG_> Anyway, The burn was good, md5sums matched, and I used the right arch (amd64)
[22:25] <hank_> jheez i was only asking and i asked if there was a jolicloud channel
[22:25] <Dark-Show> anyone wana shoot me a invite for #php?
[22:25] <LargePrime> escott: do you have a VNC client recommendation too?  Please and thank you.
[22:25] <thithib> ok thanks, I gonna try this
[22:26] <escott> LargePrime, no i dont sorry
[22:26] <LargePrime> thanks anyway
[22:26] <White--> where do I best put user specific env variables? profile, bashrc?
[22:26] <Iarryellison> NerdsMG:does macbook pro uses powerpc cpu?
[22:27] <NerdsMcG_> Iarryellison: No, it has a Core i7
[22:27] <ahrimen> escott, I made a back of the files you pointed out and nothing has changed. would it be safe to just mov my user directory and make a new one?
[22:27] <TheBoxExtraction> hmm
[22:27] <escott> ahrimen, you will need to manually create the folder, and copy the contents of /etc/skel to that folder (and fix up permissions) but yes that should be ok
[22:28] <escott> White--, http://www.joshstaiger.org/archives/2005/07/bash_profile_vs.html
[22:29] <w30> ahrimen, I have created a new user then copy new users home to you and chmod you to you.you
[22:30] <w30> ahrimen, that gives yo the skel files
[22:30] <w30> yo/you
[22:31] <BitWraith> I have an ubuntu box here running the previous major version. I used to be able to print, but I can't now.
[22:31] <gps_> hi
[22:32] <wolter> is proftpd the famous simple ftp server?
[22:32] <gps_> using 11.10, how can i use hot corners with compiz?
[22:32] <escott> !ccsm | gps_
[22:32] <ahrimen> escott and w30, Thanks! that worked. now to figure out the offending files.
[22:32] <escott> gps_, be careful as you can easily break unity
[22:32] <wolter> or is pureftp simpler?
[22:32] <KrazyKrivda> my wifi will not turn on.. rfkill shows it as hardblocked.. how can i unblock?  everything I've tried has failed
[22:32] <BitWraith> the cups web interface is complaining that a sRGB Profile.icc file was not found
[22:33] <gps_> did that, seems not to work anymore, the scale plugin seems dead
[22:33] <BitWraith> how do I fix that?
[22:34] <rumpel1> KrazyKrivda, I usually need to turn the laptop completely off for a second (no reboot)
[22:34] <escott> wolter, command line ftp is provided by a bunch of servers check /etc/alternatives, but i have netkit-ftp
[22:34] <KrazyKrivda> rumpel1: it just started acting up recently.. it's been off for a day.. problem persists
[22:34] <rumpel1> KrazyKrivda, hm.. or check bios.
[22:35] <chaos_> any 11.10 sharks out there wanna send me in the right direction with changing my theme in 11.10
[22:35] <escott> KrazyKrivda, if you have a physical switch make sure that is in the correct position, otherwise try the button
[22:35] <chaos_> i hate the color white its giving me a headache i need black on black on black
[22:36] <chaos_> please i have looked hard and cant find the settings for the theme in 11.10
[22:36] <KrazyKrivda> escott: HP laptop with a touch button.. unresponsive but shows off (orange) and will not go on
[22:36] <w30> KrazyKrivda, My Dell can use a special fn key to turn off wifi but it won't toggle back on without going into bios and re-enabling it even though bios says it's enabled; go figure
[22:36] <wolfman2_> Afternoon/evening. If I wanted to install anything via the package manager, would I be able to manually configure it with options, or would it just give me the defaults?
[22:36] <KrazyKrivda> how woudl I go about re-enabling.. i only have access to a teminal.. nothing via a typical user interface
[22:37] <Jordan_U> NerdsMcG_: Did you see my suggested work around of using the minimal CD?
[22:37] <escott> KrazyKrivda, if it is remembering across reboots you may need to go into windows to get the acpi calls done correctly
[22:37] <wolter> escott, do you use it? I can see I have it too
[22:37] <chaos_> defaults i would assume with a package manager.. not 1005 on that
[22:37] <NerdsMcG_> Jordan_U: No, I'm sorry, I got disconnected.
[22:38] <robin0800> BitWraith, in system settings there is now a colour apt see if your printer is there and that file is referenced
[22:38] <chaos_> help 11.10 theme help
[22:38] <escott> wolter, sorry you want the server. when on rare occasions I've used an ftp server it has been proftpd, but you should use openssh sftp instead
[22:38] <Jordan_U> NerdsMcG_: Somehow the kernel isn't able to access your CDROM drive, this can be worked around by using the minimal install CD (the entire installer is loaded into memory by the bootloader, before the kernel even starts).
[22:38] <KrazyKrivda> escott: I am actually in a situation where i'm forced to do this through the tty screen
[22:39] <NerdsMcG_> Jordan_U: Now there's an idea. :)
[22:40] <antnash_> Hi guys, I've got a problem with my DVB-S2 USB tuner. I've got demux0, dvr0 and net0 fine but no frontend0. The drivers were supposed to be included in kernel 3.0 (which I'm on) but it's still not working. Anyone able to point me to a solution? It's a MyGica/Geniatech HD Star.
[22:40] <escott> KrazyKrivda, i mean windows as in MS windows
[22:40] <chaos_> could someone point in the right direction to changing my theme in 11.10. i know this is weak and lame but the white is hurting my head i really need a dark theme thats easy on my eyes for all the hours i spend looking at it daily
[22:40] <escott> chaos_, the appearance application
[22:40] <KrazyKrivda> oh.. alright.  you think enabling it in windows will solve
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> antnash_: run:  lsusb   use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[22:40] <wolter> escott, even if I want to allow anonymous ftp?
[22:41] <wdd``> http://i.imgur.com/FMTao.jpg
[22:41] <escott> wolter, no idea. haven't run ftp in years
[22:41] <chaos_> it does nothing. i feel like i got a lemon for settings in 11.10 very very basic to the 10.04 stuff
[22:41] <bluecrispmanu> how to use pastebin
[22:41] <antnash_> ActionParsnip: 1f4d:3000, and I've tried that. Still not running.
[22:41] <escott> !paste | bluecrispmanu
[22:41] <bluecrispmanu> would anyone be able to examine tiger log warnings here if put in pastebin
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> antnash_: did you download http://www.veitch.me.uk/~john/files/dvb-fe-ds3000.fw ?
[22:42] <blz> !offtopic | wdd``
[22:42] <chaos_> escott: actually your right but there is only four themes there and cannot find the settings to tweak them..
[22:42] <robin0800> chaos_, install gnome-tweak-tool as a starting point
[22:42] <chaos_> yay! thanks will try
[22:43] <escott> wolter, https://singpolyma.net/2009/11/anonymous-sftp-on-ubuntu/
[22:43] <Der_Tiger> I need to figure out how I can disable highlight notifications in certain networks on my client.
[22:43] <Der_Tiger> Two highlights already... heh
[22:43] <kpowell> I screwed up my ATI display drivers, what's the easiest way to reset them from the tty console?
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> antnash_: a simple yes or no is fine....
[22:43] <blz> Are there any significant differences between openvpn and hammachi?
[22:44] <NerdsMcG_> Jordan_U: Will I have networking support when I use the minimal CD?
[22:44] <blz> NerdsMcG_, ethernet definitely works.  wifi can be a bit tricky to set up
[22:44] <palven> HOLA
[22:45] <escott> !es | palven
[22:45] <blz> !1337|blz
[22:45] <bluecrispmanu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/723754/
[22:45] <Jordan_U> NerdsMcG_: I think wifi is supported, but I'm not sure and if you can connect via ethernet that would be easier.
[22:45] <bluecrispmanu> someone give me advice on that paste
[22:45] <late_nite> any one got idea why my nvida pc , keeps dropping into Busy box
[22:45] <late_nite> done the googleing running out of sugestions
[22:46] <blz> late_nite, it's kind of hard to have any ideas when you don't give us anything to work with =/
[22:46] <Jordan_U> NerdsMcG_: Did you use the regular amd64 iso or the +mac iso? To be clear, the +mac iso will *not* help with the problem you're having, but the fact that you got as far as you did without the +mac iso (if you in fact did) means that something has changed with Apple's firmware and that information would be useful for Ubuntu developers to know, see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/633983
[22:47] <bluecrispmanu> nething to fix here that is urgent
[22:47] <escott> bluecrispmanu, it is misparsing the files. not sure what you want to say about it. if you system works your auditing tool is broken
[22:47] <ResQue> can i set certain interfaces (eth0/wlan0) to use certain dns servers. say if i am connected to two networks (both with internet access) at the same time?
[22:47] <bluecrispmanu> hi thanks. is that serious?
[22:48] <bluecrispmanu> tiger is the auditing tool?
[22:48] <Der_Tiger> :(
[22:48] <bluecrispmanu> system works fine
[22:48] <bluecrispmanu> i think!!
 been useing ubuntu 10.04 for a year or two, upgraded to 11.10 and it fails install with my Nvida Gforce6  , so went back to 10.10 all i get is at boot up drops into busybox
[22:48] <svip> Is there any new USB issue in 10.11?  I cannot get xsane with artec_eplus48 to work.
[22:49] <svip> And it has never been a problem before.
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> late_nite: read /var/log/Xorg.0.log    see if it gives clues
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> svip: any bugs reported?
 latest drivers installed . and blacklisted the intel onboard . and also run x-config as well
[22:49] <svip> ActionParsnip: Not seen one.  But it says 'no device available'.
[22:49] <chaos_> ya 11.10 gtk -> pixmap gives gay warnings
[22:49] <svip> ActionParsnip: That's not the error I tend to get, if I get one.
[22:49] <svip> Also 11.10
[22:49] <svip> I keep mixing them up.
[22:49] <Jordan_U> svip: Does simple scan work?
[22:50] <danilo> hello
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> svip: boot to liveCD and reinstate grub, may help
[22:50] <blz> late_nite:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GettingAnswers  That's not anything we can work with.  You need to give us specifics, including terminal output for the things you run (that are returning erroneous results)
[22:50] <svip> Jordan_U: simple scan?
[22:50] <chaos_> me simple man
[22:50] <danilo> excuse me... where i could find a list of channels?
[22:50] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: I don't see how this relates to grub.
[22:50] <escott> ActionParsnip, not sure the grub comment was meant for svip his problem was scanning
[22:51] <Jordan_U> !alis | danilo
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> ah yeah, crossed wires :(
[22:51] <bluecrispmanu> --WARN-- [lin003w] The process `avahi-dae' is listening on socket UDP (0t0 on
[22:51] <bluecrispmanu>          UDP interface) is run by avahi.
[22:51] <bluecrispmanu> ?
[22:51] <svip> ActionParsnip: Don't worry, I wasn't gonna reboot anyway! :P
[22:51] <danilo> ubottu tnx
[22:51] <calixte> Salut, vous connaitriez un canal sur la langage C ?
[22:52] <Jordan_U> svip: It's the default scanning GUI in Ubuntu. (uses Sane as a backend, but is simpler than XSane).
[22:52] <escott> !fr | calixte
[22:52] <wolter> thanks escott
[22:52] <svip> Jordan_U: What is it called?
[22:52] <wolter> I think I will use proftpd though
[22:52] <Jordan_U> svip: "Simple Scan".
[22:52] <BitWraith> robin0800: I don't see an exllicit reference to that file, just a choice of color models
[22:52] <svip> Jordan_U: That's not a valid command.
[22:52] <Jordan_U> svip: From the terminal, "simple-scan".
[22:52] <BitWraith> explicit*
[22:52] <svip> Jordan_U: Not working.
[22:53] <svip> Jordan_U: My scanner indicates that it is connected.
[22:53] <svip> When I insert my scanner, dmesg picks up on it.
[22:53] <Jordan_U> svip: "Not working" is rarely a sufficient description of a problem. What happens when you try to run/use Simple Scan?
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> svip: does it show in lsusb  output?
[22:54] <KrazyKrivda> escott: wow.. reboot into windows and back was the easiest fix ever.. thanks again
[22:54] <NerdsMcG_> Jordan_U: I'm going to try it. I'll be back on my tablet
[22:54] <robin0800> BitWraith, do you see your printer?
[22:55] <antnash_> Hey ActionParsnip, sorry. Had to step away. No, didn't find that. Where was it?
[22:55] <escott> KrazyKrivda, there some model specific acpi call that windows knows that linux evidently doesn't which is the cause of the problem
[22:55] <svip> Jordan_U: Sorry about that.
[22:55] <svip> Jordan_U: Accidentially hit the restart button.  I've never done that before.
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> antnash_: found a guide online. Thought you would have found it in your searchings.....
[22:56] <svip> ActionParsnip: Strange, I see nothing like the scanner on the list.
[22:56] <svip> Let me try another hole.
[22:56] <antnash_> I'll test that one out
[22:56] <hourdeau> hello?
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> antnash_: try:  cd /lib/firmware; sudo wget http://www.veitch.me.uk/~john/files/dvb-fe-ds3000.fw
[22:57] <svip> ActionParsnip: Now lsusb crashes.
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> antnash_: http://notes.veitch.me.uk/?p=37
[22:57] <compdoc> hello
[22:57] <svip> Jordan_U: Simple Scan says 'No scanners available, please connect a scanner.'
[22:58] <svip> Further more, it says 'Please check your scanner is connected and powered on'.
[22:58] <svip> Those I am sure of.
[22:59] <Jordan_U> svip: Does it still work in another OS? "lsusb" hanging is surprising and makes me more suspicious of a hardware fault.
[22:59] <svip> Jordan_U: It worked before I upgraded.
[22:59] <antnash_> hmm. I'm on that page now, I thought I got that one
[22:59] <nerdsmg> Its working Jordan_U :)
[23:00] <Jordan_U> nerdsmg: Great :). Did you see my message asking if you had originally used the +mac iso or the standard AMD64 one?
[23:01] <nerdsmg> No. I used amd64
[23:01] <svip> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/7KMJvEM8
[23:02] <Jordan_U> NerdsMcG_: (repeating) To be clear, the +mac iso will *not* help with the problem you're having, but the fact that you got as far as you did without the +mac iso (if you in fact did) means that something has changed with Apple's firmware and that information would be useful for Ubuntu developers to know, see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/633983
[23:02] <danilo> good evening... this is my first time here... and i'm afraid...  i didn't understand a lot...
[23:02] <nerdsmg> Gotcha. Ill get this working and see whatsup.
[23:04] <nerdsmg> Thanks Jordan_U :)
[23:04] <Jordan_U> nerdsmg: You're welcome :)
[23:05] <nerdsmg> What a pain. lol
[23:05] <miceiken> Yesterday, a while after I plugged in a SD-card in my reader it showed up in 'dmesg', but today it won't show after I plugged it in, any ideas?
[23:06] <Jordan_U> danilo: Welcome to #ubuntu. If you have any questions feel free to just ask them.
[23:07] <danilo> Jordan_U: thank you... this is my first time with smuxi... my first time with ubuntu... so... there are a lot of first time for me tonight!
[23:08] <Jordan_U> danilo: You're welcome.
[23:08] <[fields]> how can I make ubuntu 11.10 look more like (without unity?)  I've already tried removing unity through the software center.  I don't like the left side icons... I miss the top bar navigation to my programs and places.
[23:08] <antnash_> ActionParsnip, nope. No luck
[23:08] <danilo> Jordan_U: :D
[23:09] <danilo> Jordan_U: to find a list of channels... what i have to do?
[23:09] <Jordan_U> !alis | danilo
[23:10] <danilo> ubottu: but here in this channel i have to write the command? or directly in the #freenode?
[23:14] <svip> Jordan_U: Yeah, it is a hardware issue.
[23:15] <svip> Jordan_U: They suggest I get a new USB cable.
[23:15] <nerdsmg> Jordan_U:
[23:15] <svip> Which is not a bad idea, because this one was getting dirty.
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> antnash_: well that link was pretty much the first link I found. What were you searching for??????
[23:15] <nerdsmg> I can still pick the partition for grub, right?
[23:16] <Jordan_U> nerdsmg: Grub's boot sector should always be installed to the mbr, even on intel macs.
[23:16] <nerdsmg> Sorry. Fat fingers plus tablet is bad typing. lol
[23:17] <nerdsmg> I thought it was supposed to be on the / partition
[23:17] <nerdsmg> Especially with rEFIt
[23:17] <Jordan_U> nerdsmg: No. It's a common myth that grub's boot sector needs to be installed to a partition on intel macs. I don't know how it started, or why it's so prevalant, but it is completely false.
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> antnash_: try:  cd /lib/firmware; sudo wget http://www.otit.fi/~crope/v4l-dvb/af9015/af9015_firmware_cutter/firmware_files/4.95.0/dvb-usb-af9015.fw
[23:18] <nerdsmg> And I can still boot my win partition?
[23:19] <antnash_> Cheers ActionParsnip. rebooting.
[23:19] <antnash_> Where did you find that one?
[23:19] <Jordan_U> nerdsmg: Yes.
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> antnash_: what have you been searching for?
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> antnash_: I'm finding all this stuff with near zero effort....
[23:20] <antnash_> 1f4d:3000, HDStar, everything.
[23:20] <nerdsmg> Thanks for the clarification. I knew I liked IRC for a reason. ;)
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> antnash_: try:    1f4d:3000 ubuntu
[23:21] <antnash_> ActionParsnip, still no frontend found in dmesg
[23:21] <antnash_> Yeah, tried that
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> antnash_: http://www.vdr-portal.de/board60-linux/board61-hardware/p1008439-terratec-cinergy-s2-usb-hd-1f4d-3000-hat-die-jemand/
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> antnash_: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/dvb-s-satbox-mini-auf-ubuntu/2/#post-2783131
[23:21] <antnash_> I'm sure 've been to both of them
[23:22] <antnash_> And I s2-liplanian seems to have vanished.
[23:23] <Jordan_U> nerdsmg: You're welcome. It's also interesting to note that there are some myths presented as facts on http://refit.sourceforge.net/myths/ .
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> antnash_: http://linuxdvb.org.ru/wbb/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=763&pageNo=1    also try
[23:25] <nerdsmg> Interesting. Hopefully I'll be in Ubuntu in a few minutes here.
[23:27] <madoo> can eny one hellp me please
[23:27] <madoo> i need hellp
[23:27] <_spt_> hello Madoo
[23:27] <madoo> hello
[23:27] <_spt_> private chat?
[23:27] <Jordan_U> madoo: Just ask your question and if anyone can help they will.
[23:27] <Jordan_U> !pm | _spt_
[23:28] <madoo> i have xubuntu i need to be have ubuntu 10.10 but my pc wont setup the u b 10.10 what i have to do
[23:28] <sven_> madoo, why does it not set it up? did you try alternative installer cd?
[23:30] <anon4698> Added a idea for here: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/26927 pointing it out so people do vote on it. (it's the one with 1 vote)
[23:30] <Jordan_U> madoo: Why are you trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 rather than 10.04 or 11.10? Please try to form your sentences more clearly and using proper capitalization and punctuation, it will make it much easier for us to understand and help you.
[23:30] <Jordan_U> !ot | anon4698
[23:31] <reisio> anon4698: do these have a tendancy to accomplish anything at all?
[23:33] <Iarryellison> i wish all of the contents on the repositrory should be made on several.iso so it can be downloaded and then can be created as an offline repository
[23:34] <SolarisBoy> i wish i could list what packages where installed from a certain repository on the command line =(
[23:35] <madoo> hello
[23:35] <madoo> i need hellp
[23:35] <madoo> can i find here
[23:35] <edbian> madoo: yes
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> SolarisBoy: you can but it'll take some clever awk and greppin
[23:36] <SolarisBoy> =) figured... sometimes thats more fun though hehe
[23:36] <SolarisBoy> ActionParsnip: thanks for confirming
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> SolarisBoy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/5976/how-can-i-list-all-packages-ive-installed-from-a-particular-ppa
[23:36] <madoo> i have xubuntu and i wanna change to ubuntu10.10 what i can do
[23:37] <madoo> cause when i try to burn the cd of
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> madoo: which versio of Ubuntu do you have now?
[23:37] <chaos_> madoo: download 11.04 and install with a boot and boot from cd option
[23:37] <wolfman2_> ...I don't think my question was answered. If I want to install something from Ubuntu's package manager, do I have to accept its defaults or is there a way I can configure it ala --flags similar to ./configure?
[23:37] <SolarisBoy> ActionParsnip: nice!! thanks again
[23:37] <madoo> xubuntu 10.10
[23:37] <madoo> no i cant do thats
[23:38] <chaos_> use a usb stick to install it
[23:38] <madoo> can you tell me  abut some thing like sudo apt-get ,,,,,,,, can you
[23:38] <zykotick9> wolfman2_, regular packages cannot be customized
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> madoo: you want to change to maverick, but  which Ubuntu version do you have now?
[23:38] <wolfman2_> zykotick9: sounds like a balance between ease and power then. Alright, I'll adapt.
[23:39] <madoo> xubuntu 10.10
[23:39] <Iarryellison> maddo:you must be sayin you want to install the gnome environment
[23:39] <zykotick9> madoo, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> madoo: so you want to switch from XFCE to Gnome?
[23:40] <chaos_> wolfman2_: you could always build us a sweet package manager like that!
[23:40] <nerdsmg> Jordan_U: grub can go on /dev/sda?
[23:40] <s0nee> is there any program that prints various system status like conky but in a terminal ?
[23:40] <wolfman2_> chaos_: I'm not that skilled in programming yet I'm afraid.
[23:41] <Jordan_U> nerdsmg: Can and should. And Ubuntu's installer should do this by default.
[23:41] <reisio> s0nee: top
[23:41] <s0nee> reisio: i want to print other statistics like battery etc
[23:41] <nerdsmg> Im using the minimal install. ;)
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> minimal ftw
[23:42] <nerdsmg> Haveto. Dang mbp
[23:43] <nerdsmg> Uh oh. I froze. It doesn't like kernel modesetting.
[23:46] <rillian_> is dualbooting hard?
[23:46] <doctor_h> rillian_: nope
[23:46] <Iarryellison> cya latr everyone   .^(.)(.)^.
[23:47] <rillian_> doctor_h, ok thanks
[23:47] <chromaticwt> unity > gnome3
[23:47] <reisio> chromaticwt: impossible
[23:47] <antnash_> I'm trying to run make menuconfig and it's telling me I need to install ncurses. I've already installed libncurses5-dev
[23:47] <s0nee> awesome > gnome shell > unity
[23:48] <Trizinix> xmonad > awesome > gnome shell > unity
[23:48] <Jordan_U> !ot
[23:48] <s0nee> Trizinix: xmonad ~ awesome, i have not used xmonad. maybe some day i will try
[23:49] <antnash_> ActionParsnip, any idea on my ncurses problem?
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> antnash_: no idea dude, sorry
[23:50] <madoo> hello
[23:50] <antnash_> bugger. fair play
[23:50] <madoo> can eny one hellp me
[23:50] <madoo> hello
[23:51] <madoo> i need hellp
[23:51] <madoo> hello
[23:51] <s0nee> !ask | madoo
[23:52] <miceiken> I need some help, yesterday ubuntu discovered my sd-card a while after I plugged it in, but now it doesn't discover it
[23:52] <miceiken> any ideas?
[23:52] <miceiken> or commands i can run
[23:52] <madoo> i have kubuntu 11.10 i need to change to 10.10 please
[23:52] <madoo> i need ubuntu .1010
[23:52] <BlouBlou> !downgrade | madoo
[23:53] <madoo> my pc cant do enything i need to change
[23:53] <wdonkey> hello dear people !
[23:53] <madoo> but like sudo apt-get,,,,,,,,,, please
[23:54] <Jordan_U> madoo: Is English your first language?
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> madoo: install ubuntu-desktop
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> madoo: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:54] <madoo> i did but its not work
[23:54] <[fields]> earlier today I copied files from a windows filesystem to an ubuntu filesystem on an external drive.  Now the computer is running ubuntu 11.10 and I've reconnected the external drive with my data, I can browse to my files, but when trying to copy to my computer I get a permissions error.  I tried going to a terminal and 'gksudo nautilus' but I still get the same permissions error when copying.
[23:55] <reisio> [fields]: try from a terminal
[23:55] <wdonkey> heres the question, im trying to charge an ipad on my laptop, but it wont work, so i searched and i came up with a bunch of command line, but i must be doing something wrong because it wont work
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> madoo: you need to log off, then select the gnome session when you log in. It doesn't change the desktop automatically
[23:56] <ZeitFight> Hello! Im trying to add coretemp to /etc/modules but can't find the file on Ubuntu 11.10. Please help!
[23:56] <[fields]> reisio:  I don't know how to access (or get to) the external drive
[23:56] <raven> how to setup an openvpn-server that provides the clients to keep their lan ips also in vpn-network?
[23:56] <reisio> [fields]: run 'mount'
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> ZeitFight: I have t, I suggest you just make it
[23:56] <s0nee> ZeitFight: hmm try installing lm_sensors ?
[23:57] <madoo> hello
[23:58] <wdonkey> ZeitFight: im using the screenlet manager and i think there is a screenlet by default that can do what you ask
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> ZeitFight: http://paste.ubuntu.com/723805
[23:58] <Jordan_U> madoo: Is English your first language?
[23:58] <reisio> Jordan_U: arabic
[23:59] <Jordan_U> !arabic | reisio
[23:59] <Sovek|Lappy> Help..... I upgraded to 11.10 but now I'm stuck with the unity Gui....
[23:59]  * reisio headdesks :p
[23:59] <reisio> Sovek|Lappy: mission accomplished?
[23:59] <Sovek|Lappy> not entirely, I don't like Unity