[01:20] well :P [01:21] i think this last structure of the database is pretty cool, tho the specs table needs work http://imagebin.org/181483 [18:37] . [18:44] joeC1, ? [19:20] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings updated [19:33] I never understood what "blueprints" are in this context [20:07] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-team [20:07] for example [20:12] okay :) [20:14] proposed specifications [20:14] one could say [20:14] I think is weird the use of "blueprints", but i guess thats because im not a native speaker [20:23] hi everyone [20:23] i'm currently workin on theming the datetime plugin a bit for 12.04 [20:23] this is where i'm at: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10302011-091547pm.php [20:24] thats nice [20:24] but whats that grey triangle? [20:24] that's a resize-grip [20:24] :/ [20:26] calendar has resize? [20:27] it's ubuntu's stupid default setting [20:27] resize-grip in *every* window [20:27] i see [20:27] question: why the default clock need two clics to open orage? [20:30] ochosi, if you make that white border a little more grey it would look better imho [20:34] GridCube: currently working on removing border and resize-grip [20:35] :) [20:53] GridCube: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10302011-095152pm.php [20:54] much better [20:54] can't you force the triangle to be black? [20:55] or the same dark grey? [20:56] also plug your computer, your batery is runing out [20:56] hehe [20:57] http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10302011-095653pm.php [20:57] there you go :) [20:57] :D awesome [20:57] you still need to plug your computer tho [20:58] maybe he uses a netbook, so there's still 1h30 left ;-) [20:58] the triangle stills there buts grey? or just not there anymore [20:58] GridCube: removed the triangle (*and* plugged in my ac-adapter ;) ) [20:58] GridCube: not there (the triangle comes from an ubuntu specific patch of gtk2 anyway) [20:59] oh [20:59] i think the next thing i'll do is flat terminals [20:59] :D [20:59] mr_pouit: i know you use something different, but have you got any opinion on that? [21:00] I'm not sure what that means actually :p [21:00] screenshot coming up... [21:01] http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10302011-100111pm.php [21:02] obviously the scrollbar would have to be fixed [21:03] oh! :D i asked you to do that once [21:03] yeah i know, there were a few people asking about it [21:03] :P [21:03] so i'm considering doing it now [21:03] especially since a few people complained about the dark scrollbar [21:03] i think its pretty cool [21:04] :D [21:04] oh, interesting [21:04] it would look better on albatross tho :P [21:05] or if font where "embossed"like the titlebar [21:05] but greybird is teh future :P [21:05] :P [21:05] :) [21:05] it would be like working on an aluminium plate :P [21:06] yeah, the font-effect could be set specifically for the terminal [21:06] say ochosi what color is this grey on RGB? [21:07] GridCube: #cecece [21:12] ochosi, http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturadepantalla-301011-181049.php [21:12] :P [21:13] mmm [21:15] ochosi, why i don't see the dots arrows on the desplacement(?) bars? [21:15] s/desplacement/scroll/ [21:16] i removed them from greybird in one of the later revisions [21:16] they're only there on firefox and openoffice [21:17] yes [21:17] :/ why? [21:18] it didn't work so well with the changed scrollbar-stlye [21:19] style [21:26] ochosi, http://es.zimagez.com/zimage/thing2.php [21:26] that thing appears where the pseudo dock is [21:26] right, i guess it's its "shadow" [21:27] i don't use the launcher-panel atm so i can't check [21:27] what you can do is set alpha transparency to 100% on leave [21:30] oh [21:30] that fixed it [21:30] :D [21:30] if what i did is what you told me to do [21:30] :P [21:31] :) [21:44] terminal theming update: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10302011-104356pm.php [21:44] mr_pouit: so, do you now have an opinion on "flat terminals"? ^ [21:46] yeah, they look great [21:49] mr_pouit, can we create a new image-posting website for the xfce-screenshooter in xubuntu? [21:50] xubuntu-shots.org [21:50] :P [21:50] that'd be awesome [21:50] but who pays for the storage? :) [21:50] that would be awesome, not only for the users, but also for use, since we would see the variety of desktops [21:50] sabdfl? [21:50] :P [21:50] lol [21:50] just set up with a REALLY crappy hosting [21:50] it doesn't need to work 24/7 [21:51] and it doesn't matter if we hit the upload/download limits [21:51] even a homeserver would go, if you ask me [21:51] if it'd only work most of the time [21:51] knome: any opinion about the flat terminals? [21:51] ochosi, they look good, though i'm not particularly fond of the grey bg [21:52] (i like my terminal black) [21:52] but yeah, it doesn't mean one shouldn't implement that or that it'd look bad [21:52] knome: hm, not sure there's a way to do that. unless you wanna drop the window-borders :) [21:52] i don't [21:52] i'm waiting for darkgreybird [21:52] :P [21:53] that would be just awesome, not only because the termianl [21:53] *terminal [21:53] yeah, guess that's gonna take a little longer [21:54] sure [21:54] tbh the development time has increased a lot since gtk3 was added to the palette [21:54] if gtk3 wasn't there, i'd just rush for darkgreybird [21:54] to have a "complete" theme we'd at least need: xfwm, gtk2, gtk3, xfce-notifyd [21:54] as in just creating loads of images quickly [21:54] and see how that looks [21:55] i'd be willing to do some experimenting with xfwm stuff soonish [21:55] another question is: how dark should it be. i mean albatross isn't even *that* dark [21:55] i'd personally go for something like NOX [21:55] hm, i guess for now i'd just port the current window-borders to a dark theme [21:56] i'd just actually use the greybird gtk2/3 [21:56] like albatross [21:56] dark/light theme [21:57] knome, :P we can always use madnick's servers [21:57] * GridCube hides [21:57] and yeah, it could be something like nox, or even darker [21:57] GridCube, ha [22:09] terminal update: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10302011-110907pm.php [22:09] mr_pouit, http://xubuntu.org/mission [22:09] mr_pouit, we *did* say Xfce on our website!!! [22:09] mr_pouit, that page is just not linked to from anywhere... [22:10] ;-) [22:11] think i'll test these terminal settings for a while and probably push them later [22:11] if any of you want to try/test them as well let me know [22:11] i can either push them to a testing-branch or pastebin it [22:21] pleia2, http://wiki.knome.fi/xubuntu:websitetodo updated [22:22] * pleia2 looks [22:22] just checked in to UDS hotel, bumped into charlie on my way in :) [22:22] hehe [22:23] hopefully neither of you hurt yourself while bumping [22:23] hah [22:29] pleia2, once you've had a look at it (no rush!!) tell me what you think [22:29] bbl [22:30] will be eaten by uds these next few days, but I'll take some time [22:30] later :) [22:37] GridCube: if you wanna use the datetime plugin you can add the shimmer ppa, a fixed package (without the ugly border and the resize-grip) is there (thanks to mr_pouit) [22:38] ochosi, i have the ppa [22:40] bbl [22:40] yup, bbl [23:32] btw, the terminal scrollbar also works with dark/black terminal [23:32] it doesn't blend in, but it looks ok [23:33] :) [23:34] i finally managed to make the scrollbar-trough blend in 100% :)