[00:00] <w30> kozal add to panel either indicator plugin or notification area ( I don't know which exactly)
[00:02] <w30> I have a question and you have to answer in two seconds before I log out, duh.....................
[00:03] <drc> w30: He waited a whole 5 minutes...plenty of time to feel ignored.
[00:19] <w30> drc, well, if he actually was here 5 minutes I suppose thats long enough if something is a pressing issue on his end.
[00:22]  * w30 has spent his whole lifetime being ignored *sniffle*
[00:24]  * drc looks the other way....
[00:27] <w30> agemoi100
[03:00] <tlm> How do I get the search icon back?
[03:54] <lackvoid> I just upgraded to Xubutu 11.10, Is mouse scrolling over sound indicator to change volume broken for everyone?
[03:57] <GridCube> yes
[03:58] <GridCube> *not a feature*
[04:04] <S_SubZero> i'm new to xubuntu and wondering why that's even there
[05:21] <johnnyzero> Hey guys I have another question. This one may be tricky. My USB Mic worked fine here: http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj47/JohnnyR0x0rz/Screenshot.png however now that I am using XUbuntu 11.10 I'm having an issue basically this: http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj47/JohnnyR0x0rz/Screenshot-10302011-011944AM.png As you can see I would like to get my USB Mic working on XUbuntu. Any ideas would be well appreciated, thanks in advance
[05:21] <johnnyzero>  guys :)
[05:22] <holstein> johnnyzero: try pavucontrol
[05:23] <holstein> johnnyzero: also, you are running kmix there it seems
[05:24] <holstein> johnnyzero: the microphone should show up in the terminal if you run...
[05:24] <holstein> arecord -l
[05:24] <johnnyzero> pavucontrol = http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/43/screenshot1030201101234.png/
[05:28] <holstein> johnnyzero: if you used a xubuntu live CD, you could use that to boot live, and try the mic... im suspicious since i see kmix
[05:30] <johnnyzero> Here is alsamixer: http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=2668 and upon selecting the camera microphone this is what occurs: http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=2669
[05:31] <holstein> johnnyzero: i would expect to see that
[05:31] <holstein> johnnyzero: but, you see that the device is presenting itself
[05:31] <holstein> the OS is seeing it... you'll just need to learn how to communicate with it using some different tools
[05:32] <johnnyzero> Yes and especially in a live boot of Ubuntu 10.10 to boot. I would assume Gnome 2 has something that XFCE is lacking. But that is likely obvious.
[05:33] <johnnyzero> I chose K Mix because I figured perhaps the mixer was the issue.
[05:33] <holstein> johnnyzero: those are different kernels too
[05:33] <holstein> but, it seems you have hardware support... just dont assume comparing 10.10 to 11.10 is not going to be different
[05:33] <johnnyzero> Hmm so it is possible that 11.10 with Unity would yield the same results
[05:34] <holstein> its not so much the ubuntu to xubuntu difference
[05:34] <holstein> its the kernels and ALSA that can break things
[05:34] <holstein> assuming something is broken
[05:35] <johnnyzero> The odd part is that the mic was also fine on 11.04. If it is 11.10 in and of itself I would likely have to check out a Unity Live CD to know for sure.
[05:35] <johnnyzero> Rather than jump to blaming XFCE
[05:35] <holstein> johnnyzero: good idea
[05:35] <holstein> i use live CD diagnostically like that often
[05:37] <johnnyzero> Yeah I suppose you're right. It doesn't make sense that Unity would have support for something that XFCE doesn't. Mostly everything else works that worked on Gnome 2 when I was using 11.04 except for that.
[05:38] <holstein> yeah, and you are not only trying a newer version with potentially different hardware support, you are also learning a new UI
[05:39] <holstein> either unity or XFCE, both have different tools to learn
[05:39] <holstein> try something common like skype, or something you used before
[05:39] <johnnyzero> Well I switched to XFCE because I hated Unity lol.
[05:39] <johnnyzero> I am mainly used to Gnome 2
[05:39] <holstein> see if you can get it to run in the live environment
[05:39] <holstein> johnnyzero: use gnome2
[05:39] <holstein> more precisely, use what you want
[05:40] <holstein> im here learning XFCE in hopes that i can migrate as well
[05:41] <johnnyzero> XFCE has a bit of a ways to go before it becomes as developed as Gnome 2 was IMO. For one it would be nice if you could move the applets on your taskbars wherever you want.
[05:41] <johnnyzero> I guess they will add things little by little as more support gets added.
[05:41] <holstein> eh... its a matter of opinion though
[05:42] <holstein> XFCE has no intention, or need, to emulate gnome2
[05:42] <holstein> gnome2 is gnome2
[05:42] <holstein> if you have suggestions, im sure the dev's might want to hear them
[05:42] <johnnyzero> They will likely just tell me to wait for Mate which is the Gnome 2 fork.
[05:42] <holstein> not sure how XFCE does bugs, but xubuntu wishlist bugs would go in LP
[05:43] <holstein> i think the most challenging thing for me is seperating what i am used to from what i want, and what XFCE *actually* is
[05:43] <holstein> most of it is just adjustment
[05:44] <holstein> some of it is personal preference
[05:45] <johnnyzero> XFCE to me is basically Gnome 2 anyways in what the shell design looks like. Maybe a few changes here and there.
[05:46] <holstein> when we were deciding where to go with ubuntustudio, we went with XFCE, since we felt it ws the most gnome2-like of the currently developed options
[05:46] <holstein> XFCE and xubuntu are both well developed, and active
[05:47] <johnnyzero> holstein, I actually really like the looks of ROX Desktop Environment.
[05:47] <holstein> and, open communities you can get involved in
[05:47] <johnnyzero> It has a KDE 2/3 feel to it
[05:47]  * holstein not a KDE fan
[05:47] <johnnyzero> I agree with you
[05:47] <johnnyzero> Actually my fav Ubuntu distro was Fluxbuntu
[05:47] <johnnyzero> But it is no longer maintained
[05:48] <holstein> i thought there was going to be an 11.04 release, but it didnt happen
[05:49] <johnnyzero> Fluxbox is an interesting WM and when you add in all of the cool apps with it it becomes a really nice DE in and of itself.
[05:50] <johnnyzero> I would assume though if you wanted a Fluxbox environment from the ground up with Ubuntu, you would have to get Ubuntu Server Edition and do loads of modifying.
[05:50] <holstein> you can, or sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[05:50] <johnnyzero> Something which would basically be an Ubuntu install with X only and start from the ground up.
[05:52] <johnnyzero> Fedora has that option if you get the DVD edition and modify all the packages to what you want and don't want before an install. I don't know if there are any Ubuntu installs which will give you that added option of customizing the packages installed including getting rid of all the DEs and WMs and choosing your own set up.
[05:55] <holstein> johnnyzero: in the alternate CD's, theres a command line install option
[06:03] <johnnyzero> That works :). I am thinking perhaps even taking Compiz with X and just throwing something together from the ground up. I remember at one point doing that with Arch. Though thats a ton of work. You need docbar apps and file managers and all sorts of things to get it going. Its doable but just takes a ton of work.
[06:05] <holstein> i read about that... never tried it
[06:07] <johnnyzero> Well basically you start off with just a cursor moving around the screen and some compiz and emerald stuff (window borders etc.). You need to start X with a terminal window from the command prompt and perhaps even a Web Browser like Fire Fox and pretty much go from there downloading like crazy and finding the best stuff you want.
[06:08] <johnnyzero> its like completely Frankensteining it into a DE.]
[06:09] <johnnyzero> Though I suppose it would be nice for an experiment.
[08:10] <johnnyzero> holstein, you were right
[08:10] <johnnyzero> Its the kernel
[08:10] <johnnyzero> I found a thread which leads me to believe that
[08:10] <johnnyzero> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1870462
[08:21] <dirtycookie> hi people, i have freshly isntalled xubuntu on my eeepc and started to work with it yestersay. now when i start my eeepc my usb stick gets labeled with wierd chars that i havent labled at all. any ideas how to restore the problem???
[08:23] <TheSheep> dirtycookie: it's not labeled, the stick doesn't have a label so it uses uuid instead
[08:24] <TheSheep> dirtycookie: set a label and it will use it
[08:36] <johnnyzero> Does anyone else have issues with Kernel 3 and using USB Mics or any Mic devices?
[08:36] <johnnyzero> I just want to see if its just me
[08:37] <johnnyzero> brb in a bit
[09:43] <dirtycookie> TheSheep: well where do i set a label??
[09:44] <well_laid_lawn> I use   e2label
[09:44] <well_laid_lawn> I have ext4 partitions tho
[09:44] <dirtycookie> well they are both vfat partitions
[09:45] <well_laid_lawn> I know nothing about them...
[10:30] <csenger41> hello everyone :)
[10:39] <babble> :)
[10:48] <Vlyn> What the fuck!? I got an error here with Xubuntu. Sometimes when I type there are black “pixelerrors” on top of the screen. When I hold one button it gets more and more and form patterns!? Then I wanted to come here (With those errors on the screen) and bam! Login Screen again and everything is fine + data is lost O.o
[10:48] <well_laid_lawn> !language | Vlyn
[10:48] <Vlyn> Sorry ^^
[10:49] <well_laid_lawn> Vlyn: what graphics card?
[10:49] <Vlyn> Nvidia GTX 580
[10:50] <well_laid_lawn> Vlyn: using nouveau or the proprietry driver?
[10:50] <csenger41> Vlyn: there are many hardware-related problems with those VGAs, I heard
[10:51] <Vlyn> Proprietry (Nvidia X Server)
[10:51] <Vlyn> Hm… I got VGA
[10:52] <well_laid_lawn> I know nothing about nvidia but I guess the X log stills tells you what is happening
[10:52] <Vlyn> Let me find that…
[10:52] <well_laid_lawn> s/ills/ill/
[10:52] <Shirakawasuna> Vlyn: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:53] <incorrect> what do i need to startup so i get the nice ssh-agent key-ui from gnome?
[10:53] <Vlyn> Uhm… is [   1801.062] some timestamp?
[10:54] <Vlyn> [  1801.068] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module nv
[10:56] <Vlyn> I have no clue where to search…
[10:56] <Vlyn> A real timestamp would be great -.-
[11:02] <well_laid_lawn> Vlyn: if it goes on to load a diff driver that error is ok
[11:02] <well_laid_lawn> warning not error sorry
[11:02] <Vlyn> Yeah, I think so
[11:02] <Vlyn> But I can’t pin my error down
[11:03] <Vlyn> Without any timestamps at all
[11:03] <paulep> look for "(EE)"
[11:03] <Vlyn> I have no clue if I’m even looking on the right day O.o
[11:04] <well_laid_lawn> if it is Xorg.0.log it is from the current X session
[11:04] <Vlyn> [  1801.068] (EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0)
[11:04] <paulep> the [    1801.062] and so on are the uptime in seconds
[11:04] <Vlyn> This one is the same as up, bit EE
[11:04] <Vlyn> That’s the only EE
[11:05] <Vlyn> *but
[11:05] <well_laid_lawn> but does it find another module to load?
[11:06] <Vlyn> It just loads the next module
[11:06] <Vlyn> There is no “loading instead” or something like that
[11:07] <Vlyn> Hm, gotta eat, afk for some minutes
[11:22] <Vlyn> So, I’m back and still angry about Unity *Wants Ubuntu back* :-(
[11:25] <csenger41> hey there I'm back
[11:26] <csenger41> anyone could help me with a theme-related issue? I installed VLC player, but it does not use the greybird theme. I can show a picture of it too if needed.
[11:28] <well_laid_lawn> vlc is a qt app so try qtconfig in a terminal
[11:28] <well_laid_lawn> or use cvlc which has nothing but the movie showing
[11:28] <csenger41> The program 'qtconfig' can be found in the following packages:
[11:28] <csenger41>  * qt3-qtconfig
[11:28] <csenger41>  * qt4-qtconfig
[11:28] <csenger41> Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
[11:29] <well_laid_lawn> try qt4-qtconfig then
[11:31] <ochosi> hm, to be honest i have a similar problem with skype in oneiric
[11:31] <ochosi> there seem to be some qt-gtk issues in oneiric
[11:31] <ochosi> (vlc looks ok here)
[11:32] <ochosi> qt4-qtconfig didn't change anything for me
[11:35] <well_laid_lawn> is skype still qt3?
[11:35] <csenger41> ok, qtconfig is working now, but it says
[11:35] <csenger41> QGtkStyle was unable to detect the current GTK+ theme.
[11:35] <well_laid_lawn> it says that sometimes - does vlc look better?
[11:36] <csenger41> nope :(
[11:36] <csenger41> there is no xfce theme option
[11:36] <well_laid_lawn> all I can suggest is try qt3-qtconfig then
[11:37] <well_laid_lawn> I use mplayer
[11:39] <csenger41> qt3-qtconfig: command not found
[11:39] <csenger41> qt4-qtconfig: command not found
[11:39] <csenger41> only simply "qtconfig" is working
 The program 'qtconfig' can be found in the following packages:
  * qt3-qtconfig
  * qt4-qtconfig
[11:40] <well_laid_lawn>  sudo apt-get install
[11:40] <well_laid_lawn> csenger41: you know about installing packages from the command line?
[11:41] <csenger41> installed both ones and now qtconfig is working, but there is no option using xfce greybird theme
[11:41] <csenger41> well_laid_lawn: yeah, installed them from terminal
[11:41] <well_laid_lawn> it won't let you pick the gtk - it will use the current one if it finds it
[11:41] <well_laid_lawn> or it uses default options
[11:42] <well_laid_lawn> either way vlc should look different
[11:42] <csenger41> Desktop Settings (Default) is set now and it looks like this:
[11:42] <csenger41> https://picasaweb.google.com/115258614198791545895/Others#5666651135232372770
[11:44] <well_laid_lawn> xfce's desktop settings don't affect qt apps
[11:44] <well_laid_lawn> qt apps won't look like everything else
[11:44] <csenger41> well_laid_lawn: yes they do
[11:45] <well_laid_lawn> which ones do?
[11:45] <well_laid_lawn> if they do then vlc would
[11:45] <csenger41> on 11.04 i had no such problem with either VlC or qBittorrent
[11:46] <csenger41> but on 11.10 both ones do not follow system scheme
[11:47] <well_laid_lawn> that should be mentioned in a bug report then
[11:47] <well_laid_lawn> !bugs
[11:48] <well_laid_lawn> I like a light system so I stay away from qt apps
[11:49] <csenger41> yay problem solved
[11:49] <well_laid_lawn> how did that happen?
[11:50] <csenger41> sudo apt-get install glabels
[11:50] <well_laid_lawn> !info glabels
[11:50] <well_laid_lawn> seems strange
[11:52] <csenger41> yeah i know, but it's working fine! :)
[11:52] <well_laid_lawn> well done :)
[11:53] <csenger41> well_laid_lawn: are you using global-menu applet on Xubuntu?
[11:54] <well_laid_lawn> I don't even know what that is...
[11:55] <csenger41> http://cdn.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Screen-Shot-2011-10-18-at-19.09.46.png
[11:55] <well_laid_lawn> I like a light system so I remove more than I install ;)
[11:56] <well_laid_lawn> I mostly right click the desktop for the menu
[11:57] <csenger41> well_laid_lawn: so ur a Xubuntu-poweruser :D
[11:57] <well_laid_lawn> and always have thunar open on desktop2 for my nfs mounts
[11:58] <csenger41> i don't use more desktops then one
[11:58] <well_laid_lawn> I just do what I do - it's very configurable
[11:58] <well_laid_lawn> built that way
[11:58] <well_laid_lawn> I never minimise apps :)
[12:00] <csenger41> i liked the workspaces management useful on gnome3 only
[12:00] <csenger41> *liked = found
[12:03] <paulep> right: my mute button mutes the pulseaudio server, but then won't unmute it
[12:03] <paulep> xubuntu 11.10
[12:04] <beardygnome> paulep: i have the same issue
[12:04] <well_laid_lawn> a few ppl have mentioned that happens
[12:04] <well_laid_lawn> checked bug reports ?
[12:06] <paulep> aha! i tried looking for the bug report section earlier, it seemed to redirect to all ubuntu bugs, but got the xubuntu one now
[12:07] <paulep> and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-mixer/+bug/882837
[12:07] <well_laid_lawn> link pls
[12:07] <well_laid_lawn> cheers
[12:07] <paulep> it's easy enough to put together a script to unmute the server
[12:11] <csenger41> well thanks for the infos, I'm leaving now
[12:11] <csenger41> bye :)
[12:55] <[h4wk]> hi 2 all
[12:55] <[h4wk]> I have a question...:)
[12:55] <[h4wk]> Can I somehow change right-click menu in Xubuntu 11.10 ?
[13:31] <lrussell> how do I MAKE a samba share on linux (xubuntu)? I managed to connect to a windows samba share, but how do I create a share under linux that windows can use?
[13:33] <holstein> lrussell: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ComprehensiveSambaGuide in particular
[13:34] <lrussell> well, I just don't know what software to use... lol
[13:34] <holstein> i use windows so little that i just go the other way, and have windows connect with sftp in filezilla or something to ssh
[13:34] <holstein> lrussell: its all in the samba config AFAIK... i set it up once just to see... it ws a pain, but i have heard that are GUI's to make it easier
[13:35] <babble> there's system-config-samba if you want a gui to set up your shares. (that's what I'm using)
[13:36] <lrussell>  i know,. I tried a million gui's for connecting to a samba share, but none of them wanted to work. I tried Gigolos, Smb2k (i think) and a few others. I restored to terminal and bang... it works! geh...
[13:36] <holstein> SWAT too is said to be a bit tricky to get running, but easy to use and configure samba afterward
[13:36] <holstein> http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=2985#
[13:37] <lrussell> maybe ftp would just be easier...
[13:37] <lrussell> -_-
[13:37] <lrussell> but i hate it considering its local
[13:38] <lrussell> brb, getting on my linux pc
[13:38] <holstein> lrussell: ssh then
[13:39] <holstein> i have also had good luck with http://www.swish-sftp.org/ though i think it says beta, and i really havent used it enough to comment on stability
[13:39] <lrussell> back
[13:39] <holstein> lrussell: you see http://www.swish-sftp.org/ ??
[13:39] <lrussell> babble, pm me
[13:39] <babble> did :)
[14:29] <artag> anybody here using gdm with xubuntu 11.10 ?
[14:30] <holstein> artag: i have... whats up?
[14:33] <artag> I've just upgraded to 11.10, and initially chose lightdm. but there was no shutdown button, and it ignored the power button (on a laptop)
[14:33] <artag> so I have recnfigured to gdm
[14:34] <artag> this works, but all the time it's ready for a login, it shows a busy icon (whatever the ubuntu name for an hourglass is)
[14:34] <artag> is this normal ?
[14:34] <artag> i didn't get this on 11.04
[14:34] <artag> rotating cursor thingy
[14:35] <artag> doesn't stop me selecting anything, or logging in .. it just looks wrong.
[14:36] <holstein> i say, choose your battles... maybe look for a bug, make sure you are up to date
[14:36] <artag> so it doesn't do that for you ?
[14:37] <holstein> i dont have it setup that way right now, so im not sure.. but i dont recall
[14:37] <holstein> that would be something i wouldnt notice though...
[14:38] <artag> and yes, i'm sure there are more important bugs, but i've got past the worst :-)
[14:40] <moljac024> hi everyone
[14:40] <moljac024> i have a problem
[14:40] <moljac024> a minor one but still annoying
[14:40] <moljac024> there are no screenshots for anything in the software center
[14:40] <moljac024> also, REALLY ANNOYING is the fact that its IMPOSSIBLE to google
[14:43] <holstein> moljac024: i was under the impression that those are on the way
[14:44] <holstein> i typically just go to google though and google the package name, and ttry and go to the maintainer site and look... and i also dont use the software center
[14:44] <holstein> moljac024: i would look for a bug to add yourself to though
[14:45] <artag> does bug 675186 in launchpad help at all ?
[14:45] <holstein> and maybe try and load up the normal ubuntu live CD and see if you see the same issue there moljac024
[14:45] <artag> haha
[15:10] <semmel> hey guys i try to set up m debian sqeeze xfce4 with pulseaudio, on my fluxbox all works fine but on the xfce4 i just have no sound, no mixers are muted or 0
[15:16] <paulep> semmel: does the output of 'pacmd info|grep mute' contain any yeses?
[15:18] <semmel> hm paulep the output is german, but it says that there is no pulseaudio-service is running or it isnt running as a sessionservice
[15:20] <paulep> semmel: have you got xfce to autostart the pulseaudio server?
[15:22] <semmel> semmel: i have pulseaudio run at bootup
[15:23] <semmel> i mean paulep instead of semmel :)
[15:23] <paulep> semmel: so the server is running then? and teehee :p
[15:24] <semmel> yes paulep running pulseaudio puts "E: pid.c: Daemon already running."
[15:26] <paulep> semmel: have you checked all the sound cards available in xfce-mixer? (i assume you're using it/have it installed)
[15:29] <paulep> semmel: there was a cheeky one that muted my system without me realising - it began with "playback"
[15:29] <semmel> the xfce4-mixer shows an oss-mixer and a couple of pulseaduio playbacks and captures, the pulseaudio playbacks shows only a "Master" the oss shows more options, but all is up to 100% and nothing has been muted
[15:30] <paulep> semmel: righto, that's the extent of my knowledge after having been grappling with a similar problem - afraid i can't help you any more than that :/
[15:31] <semmel> hm alright, but thank you for your help so far
[15:35] <semmel> hm i tried to set the mpd and smplayer sound to alsa and oss instead of pulseaudio, it both worked and i have sound with it, but the browser sound stoll wont work
[15:40] <caps> hey guys i got a question
[15:49] <mariusx> hello
[15:51] <holstein> feel free to just fire away caps & mariusx
[15:51] <mariusx> how i change default session to autostart xubuntu (from ubuntu 11.10)?
[15:51] <GridCube> autostart?
[15:51] <holstein> mariusx: i did that in the login manager... i just chose xubuntu-session, and it automagically worked
[15:52] <GridCube> yes, you should log-off and choose the xubuntu session
[15:52] <caps> when im installing xubuntu it trys to read packages from cdrom but im installing from usb?
[15:52] <mariusx> yes, but when i reboot my default session is unity
[15:52] <GridCube> oh
[15:52] <GridCube> then:
[15:52] <holstein> caps: i would probably look at the sources list... you can do that in synaptic if you want a GUI for it
[15:52] <GridCube> gksu leafpad /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf         and change user-session=xubuntu
[15:52] <paulep> caps: an easy way to solve that is to open up a terminal
[15:53] <mariusx> ok. thank i try it now.
[15:53] <paulep> caps: mount /dev/sd(wherever your partition is) /cdrom
[15:53] <caps> ok so do that on live xubuntu off usb then run the install as normal?
[15:54] <paulep> caps: yupyup
[15:54] <GridCube> cap what are you using for the usb?
[15:54] <GridCube> unetbootin?
[15:55] <caps> yep
[15:55] <caps> like im runnin live atm
[15:56] <caps> just cause of the problem i had with the install it will not boot into xubuntu
[15:56] <caps> ok im going to try the suggestion given and if i have a problem ill be back :)
[15:56] <mariusx> well it worked. Many thanks
[15:57] <GridCube> mariusx, :) no prob
[15:59] <mariusx> this is new (xubuntu). I have to dig in
[16:00] <GridCube> :)
[16:00] <caps> says special device does not exist when trying to mount
[16:01] <paulep> caps: have you put exactly what i wrote? :S
[16:01] <GridCube> caps, i have used unetbooting for alternate cd's only, and it worked fine
[16:01] <caps> its weird this is the first time it has given me this error
[16:01] <caps> as far as failed to find cdrom
[16:01] <caps> im on a netbook so
[16:02] <paulep> caps: type 'ls /dev |grep sd' and work out which partition contains the files (probably /dev/sdb1, but depends how many hdds you have)
[16:03] <caps> ok i see a few options sda, sda1,sda2,sda5,sdb,sdb1
[16:04] <GridCube> caps, it shouldn't ask for it
[16:04] <paulep> GridCube: I know, but this is a quick and easy solution
[16:05] <paulep> caps: unless your USB stick has more than one partition, it's sdb1 you want
[16:05] <caps> ok
[16:05] <caps> it only has one so
[16:05] <caps> sdb1 it is
[16:05] <GridCube> caps, actually
[16:05] <GridCube> open gparted and mount it manually
[16:05] <paulep> GridCube: whoops, reading failure on my end :p
[16:07] <caps> alright opened up gparted and it says  mount Point /cdrom
[16:07] <GridCube> the problem is that if you are using the livecd from the usb, then the usb is already mounted
[16:07] <GridCube> yes you see
[16:14] <GridCube> caps, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11198125&postcount=13
[16:15] <GridCube> caps, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9086256&postcount=29
[16:19] <paulep> oh yes, dammit, you're doing it right. i was mixing the solution to two different errors that /I/ was having when installing
[16:20] <caps> Im going to look at those posts, but Here is the Error : An attempt to configure apt to install additional packages from the CD Failed.
[16:20] <caps> i just got it :P
[16:27] <GridCube> :)
[16:29] <mariusx> where i found volume control?
[16:33] <GridCube> oh the small speaker near the date?
[16:34] <mariusx> yep
[16:34] <drc> mariusx: I should be on the indicator plugin...right where GridCube said (on a default install)
[16:34] <mariusx> or shortcut key
[16:34] <mariusx> default install you mean directly xubuntu?
[16:35] <GridCube> yes
[16:35] <mariusx> because my default install was ubuntu
[16:35] <GridCube> :^P
[16:35] <mariusx> ok. i will reinstall
[16:36] <GridCube> :P
[16:36] <GridCube> ofcourse
[16:36] <GridCube> you could install pavucontrol
[16:36] <mariusx> but a shrtcut?
[16:36] <mariusx> shortcut key?
[16:36] <GridCube> you can bind any key to anything you want
[16:37] <edward> hello!
[16:37] <mariusx> of course but i am on keyboard window , add buton and ... what command i enter?
[16:37] <edward> If I install the latest xubuntu, that means i can escape from unity, doesn't it? :O
[16:37] <GridCube> xfce4-mixer
[16:38] <drc> edward: yes...run fast, run far.
[16:38] <GridCube> edward, Xubuntu >X >XFCE =/= unity > gnome
[16:38] <edward> yeah and I will run over gnome 3 if I meet him on the way :O
[16:39] <edward> anyway, there are 3 bugs in ubuntu 11.10 that I am pulling my hear out over, 1 of which is unity
[16:39] <edward> however I have an other problem
[16:40] <edward> Whenever I try to play a MKV file (a.k.a anime, and I'm a total otaku :O), it
[16:41] <edward> gives an error about missing h264 or somethign and refuses to play. Is this also a problem in xubuntu? :O https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gstreamer0.10/+bug/879066
[16:41] <edward> yeah
[16:42] <edward> http://kawaiineko101.deviantart.com/art/APH-Otaku-Rage-160534518 (well it's anime but okay. This is how I feel about it XD)
[16:42] <drc> edward: Tried vlc?  I have no problems with mkv (but not anime...real video :)
[16:42] <edward> any known fix?
[16:42] <edward> VLC only gives green screen
[16:42] <edward> except for the nightly build which I compiled from source
[16:43] <edward> but then it can't use VDPAU so my 1080P movie was too slow to watch :-(
[16:43] <edward> Thanx for the tip tough ;-)
[16:43] <drc> edward: when ou installled, did you check the "Third Party..." block during the setup scren(s)?
[16:43] <edward> yep :D
[16:43] <edward> it plays all videos
[16:43] <drc> ok..then you have gremlins :)
[16:43] <edward> except mkv
[16:43] <edward> like the bug says...
[16:44] <edward> gremlins? Nah, tsundere catgirls! D:
[16:44] <drc> edward: I just re-checked, I had no problems with vlc and Chrono Crusade in mkv :)
[16:45] <edward> well it has to be 10-bit video ;-)
[16:45] <drc> edward: You do know there are meds for otaku-ism?
[16:45] <edward> maybe there are but I don't want them! :D
[16:45] <edward> I do have a great happy-med : I am a Japanology student D:
[16:46] <edward> and offcourse, at cons XD https://picasaweb.google.com/114730589893508500362
[16:46] <edward> Anyway, no fix? Because then I will just go back to ubuntu 11.04 ;-)
[16:46] <edward> ( it worked there XD)
[16:47] <drc> edward: Just a wild guess...have you installed Restricted Extras?
[16:47] <edward> yup :D
[16:47] <edward> Also
[16:47] <drc> Then I'm out of WAG's :(
[16:48] <edward> Yeah I even tried installing mplayer 2 and smplayer this solved it, but
[16:48] <edward> when I upgraded the nvidia driver it stopped working again (also this nearly blew ubuntu 11.10 to kingdom come :O)
[16:49] <edward> Anyway, thanx for the help, I guess I will watch on my laptop for now (no 26 inch screen *tears*) and reinstall 11.04 :D // BTW, you do seem to know something about anime... ever been to a con? ;-)
[16:50] <drc> edward: Me? Never, I really dome't like "anime" as a genre...just a few isolated series.
[16:52] <edward> oh okay www I have the same thing with 3d videos XD
[16:52] <edward> My fav. series is lucky star, have you seen that one by any chance? Anyway, these cons are great fun even if you aren't a very diehard fan like me, and they are usually quite cheap! ;-)
[16:53] <drc> edward: Nope...and this is getting a bit Off-topic.
[16:53]  * drc looks around for knome :)
[16:53] <edward> yeah I was thinking the same thing XD // I am going to watch fate/zero on lappy :3 BYe! *waves*
[16:56] <knome> drc, hmmh?
[16:57] <drc> Was beginning to verge on off-topic...You've got me gun-shy now :)
[16:57] <knome> heh
[16:57] <knome> well, now that the -offtopic channel is active, no reason why not to point people there
[16:58] <knome> (you can tell them too to join there ;))
[16:59] <drc> Active, but still doesn't show up in my listings :(
[17:02] <zezik> hello, xubuntu!
[17:02] <knome> drc, can you see it now?
[17:02] <GridCube> edward, what video card do you have?
[17:03] <knome> hey zezik
[17:03] <drc> knome: It just showed up (I almost said "no", but it automagically showed up in the listing)
[17:04] <knome> yes, very manualmagically
[17:06] <drc> If I do it it's manual-, if you do it it's auto- :)
[17:09] <edward> oh sorry I didn't see someone talked to me :-(
[17:09] <edward> XD It's a 512 MB DDR3 Geforce GTS 250
[17:14] <GridCube> oh do you have the correct drivers installed edward ?
[17:15] <edward> yeah well the problem is solved now because I reinstalled ubuntu 11.04 ;-)
[17:15] <edward> But yes, I did
[17:16] <edward> and then I installed mplayer2 and smplayer as per instructions
[17:16] <GridCube> :P
[17:16] <GridCube> ok
[17:16] <edward> and it worked, untill I tried to upgrade my nvidia driver which blew the whole installation to kingdom come...
[17:17] <GridCube> :P
[17:17] <edward> Just wondering, why did they release ubuntu 11.10 in this state? Can't play 10bit mkv, can't update graphics drivers, unity making windows disappear....
[17:17]  * GridCube shrugs this was xubuntu the lasst time he check
[17:17] <edward> it's worse (literally, at least for me! ) than windows millenium and vista combined! :O
[17:18] <edward> true, but the reason I came looking for xubuntu were all the ubuntu bugs XD
[17:18] <drc> edward: 6 months was up...and MarkS is real insistent about meeting the schedule.
[17:18] <zezik> I liked Ubuntu with Gnome 2 :(
[17:18] <edward> ... I love schedules, but not if it leads to this... :-(
[17:19] <edward> Yeah me too! Gnome 2 is the best! Which is why I put my new 11.04 installation on classic gnome XD
[17:19] <edward> (with moebuntu XD)
[17:19] <drc> edward: IMO, it's not about 11.04 or 11.10...the real driver is 12.04, an LTS.
[17:20] <edward> agreed, but I do want something usable in between in order not to have 2 year old versions of all software in the repos ...
[18:02] <StormStrikes> Has anyone got a Gobi 3000 WWAN card working in Xubuntu?
[18:37] <joeC1> .
[18:40] <Marion> Is there any body here
[18:40] <knome> yes.
[18:40] <Marion> Hi knome
[18:41] <Marion> Do you know how to get xubuntu to recognize my secondary hdd
[18:42] <knome> what filesystem is it formatted in?
[18:42] <Marion> I can't remember it was from an xp system
[18:42] <holstein> you might want to open a terminal and run "sudo fdisk -l" and paste that over at http://paste.ubuntu.com/ Marion
[18:48] <joeC1> How can I go about setting up my 'xgamma' settings to automatically start when I'm logged in to my account?
[18:49]  * holstein has xubuntu 11.10... any ideas about disabing the touchpad while typing
[18:50] <holstein> joeC1: i would just add it in 'settings - settings manager - sessions and startup'
[18:50] <Marion> Paste.ubuntu.com/723558
[18:51] <holstein> Marion: /dev/sdb1   *           1       12160    97675168+   7  HPFS/NTFS is your xp partition
[18:52] <joeC1> thanks Hols!
[18:52] <holstein> Marion: i would check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab#ntfs , and know how to edit that file from a live CD if you break something and cant boot in
[18:53] <holstein> Marion: there are more temporary ways to mount as well... is it listed in the filemanager? usually they just show up and you can click and mount them (they = hard drives)
[18:54] <Marion> I'm gonna be dumb and ask how to get to the file manager
[18:55] <holstein> Marion: no worries... should be 'accessories - filemanager'
[18:56] <Marion> I dont see any hdd listed
[18:58] <holstein> OK... you should try mounting it manually then
[18:58] <Marion> And how do I do that
[18:59] <holstein> Marion: this looks pretty much like what i would dl
[18:59] <holstein> do*
[18:59] <holstein> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/mounting-windows-partition-onto-ubuntu-linux/
[19:20] <peterwiejaczka> :)
[19:21] <knome> :O
[19:25] <Marion> Ok so now that I got that done how do I get my old ass soundblaster audigy to output sound
[19:28] <Marion> holstein you still there
[19:51] <paulep> names
[20:00] <holstein> Marion: check to see if its showing up when you run lspci... if you see it there, then open a terminal and run these 2 commands
[20:00] <holstein> aplay -l
[20:00] <holstein> arecord -l
[20:00] <holstein> ^^ seeing the sound device in those 2 places is a great signe
[20:00] <holstein> sign*
[20:02] <Marion> Audigy unknown is what it says
[20:03] <holstein> it?
[20:03] <holstein> which?
[20:03] <holstein> aplay?
[20:04] <Marion> Both
[20:04] <holstein> cool... seeing it in aplay is good
[20:04] <GridCube> Marion, are you using pavucontrol?
[20:05] <Marion> What is that
[20:05] <holstein> pavucontrol is a good idea as well... check in the terminal too in alsamixer and make sure levels look as expected there
[20:05] <holstein> Marion: pavucontrol is a package you can install
[20:05] <holstein> !info pavucontrol
[20:07] <holstein> anyone have any ideas about disbling touchpad taps while typing?
[20:08] <Marion> I'm doing that now its installing how do I enabler thesound card
[20:09] <holstein> Marion: thats the thing... its probably 'enabled' and you are just on the path to aquiring the skill to control it.. the skill and the package that will work for you
[20:16] <babble> ok, so, hmm.
[20:16] <babble> I gave unity a 6 month try
[20:16] <babble> I dunno if I can do that for gnome shell.
[20:17]  * GridCube shrugs
[20:17] <holstein> babble: you dont have to.. although, now is probably a better 6 months to try unity... each release its going to become more customizable and tolerable and stable
[20:18]  * holstein gave them both about 6 days
[20:18] <babble> oh, I know I don't *have* to
[20:18] <babble> I just don't want to dismiss it out of hand without really trying to live in it
[20:19] <babble> I tried KDE4 for about a month before giving up. heh.
[20:20] <marion> ok so i have that installed but when i open the mixer it says that the unknown sb audigy is in thae alsa mixer
[20:21] <holstein> marion: dont let the term 'unknown' throw you off... thats likely just a label... also, trust no labels.. tweak all knobs and try tweaking everything in alsamixer from the terminal as well
[20:22] <marion> how do i go about doing that
[20:22] <marion> i promise i wont be retarded in about a week
[20:23] <holstein> marion: i would litereally open whatever mixer you have
[20:23] <holstein> and start messing with any fader
[20:23] <holstein> make sure you are playing something that can be played
[20:23] <holstein> an ogg file or something
[20:24] <madnick> holstein: how do you mean "disable", because you can disable it, but not reenable it quickly enough, unless you write a program for it
[20:24] <holstein> then, open the terminal and run alsamixer
[20:24] <marion> it shows there being an intel ich5 that im guessing is the mother board sound card how can i dissable that
[20:24] <holstein> you hit f5 and you see *all* settings
[20:24] <holstein> marion: you can disable that in the bios i would think
[20:25] <holstein> personally the audigy is not enough of an improvement in quality over the internal card to lose sleep over it
[20:25] <holstein> i would use which ever one 'just works'
[20:25] <holstein> but, im an audio guy...
[20:27] <holstein> its likely that you are playing and controlling the internal card, while having speakers hooked up to the SB
[20:27] <holstein> i would check both
[20:27] <holstein> getting *any* sound would help you learn the tools... the software, the mixer... the UI
[20:27] <holstein> then, you can go on to troubleshooting which ever card you want to be using
[20:31] <marion> i need to set the card to be used
[20:31] <holstein> marion: prolly... but, for the time being, you could look in the bios and see if its easy to disable the internal, or pop out the SB for a bit, and learn the tools on hardware that is easy, and then in a few days go for switching cards :)
[20:33] <marion> i cant believe there isnt an easy way i sware when i did ubuntu a year ago it just recognised
[20:33] <holstein> sure, and that version is still available.. you could download it and check it out live, and take note of the steps you do to select it
[20:33] <holstein> you can check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=922860
[20:34] <marion> it wont work on my system it freezes
[20:34] <holstein> marion: thats not good and maybe a symptom
[20:34] <holstein> maybe that card is not recognized in this newer kernel... or something about the rev'd alsa
[20:35] <holstein> marion: anyways... i suggest taking the SB out for a while... kick the tires on xubuntu, and relax a bit... enjoy, then get dirty if you need to with the SB :)
[20:35] <marion> ok so apparently the card works but my on screen audio control wont controll it
[20:35] <marion> any ideas
[20:37] <holstein> marion: theres not really 'on screen audio'... not sure what you mean
[20:37] <holstein> alsamixer should control it
[20:37] <marion> how do i make it so also mixer only controlls it
[20:38] <holstein> marion: you dont need to
[20:38] <holstein> just control it with alsa mixer if you want
[20:38] <marion> ok when i hit the volume keys on my keyboard its controlling the on motherboard sound card
[20:39] <holstein> marion: sure, and thats probably going to be the case
[20:39] <holstein> you *can* change that, im just not sure how.. the easy way is to look in the bios and disable the internal card
[20:39] <marion> ok how do i do that?
[20:39] <holstein> marion: depends... for me, when the machine is booting, i hit F2, and enter the bios where i can disable some devices
[20:40] <holstein> but, i have to run.. you can always google it... "entery bios asus eeepc 900" for example... good luck
[23:31] <vlyn> Seriously, I found right after starting Libre Office / Open Office some bugs. How is that possible? Open Office works like a charm in Windows -.-