[00:07] <quotemstr> Does bzr have anything like git's rebase -i?
[00:08] <bob2> bzr-rewrite?
[00:09] <quotemstr> bob2: Looking at that now, but it seems more limited.
[00:45] <poolie> maybe in bzr-interactive
[01:00] <poolie> ah kirill is working on rebase-interactive
[03:27] <poolie> docs for the 'judge' tool i mentioned the other day: http://judge.readthedocs.org/en/latest/index.html
[05:29] <jelmer> 'morning *
[05:36] <nigelb> jelmer: Its afternoon, so you need like "Good * *" ;)
[05:37] <jelmer> technically speaking it's not a good morning either, as I am slightly jetlagged
[05:38] <nigelb> Ah, in Orlando?
[05:38] <jelmer> no, back home
[05:38] <jelmer> I was in california/nevada last week
[05:38] <nigelb> ah!
[05:38] <nigelb> Nice :)
[05:41] <poolie> hi jelmer, nigelb
[05:42] <nigelb> o/
[05:42] <jelmer> hey poolie
[05:43]  * jelmer breakfasts, biab
[05:43] <jelmer> being up before 7 can't be healthy...
[05:43] <poolie> :)
[05:43] <poolie> jetlag?
[05:44] <jelmer> yeah
[05:47] <jelmer> how are things in bzr land?
[05:48] <poolie> pretty good
[05:48] <poolie> the good thing is that we did the rollout to the buildds
[05:48] <poolie> the bad news is that it seems to have not completely fixed things
[05:49] <jelmer> poolie: I followed up the RT, as far as I can tell not all the builders are running the newer bzr-builder yet
[05:49] <poolie> that might be it then
[05:50] <poolie> the next thing i was going to do on it is to try to reproduce things locally under a ulimit
[05:50] <poolie> perhaps while we're talking, i should make an update for the udd list
[05:51] <poolie> ah, also i wrote up some docs for judge on the weekend and this morning in http://judge.readthedocs.org/en/latest/index.html
[05:51] <poolie> now i think i just need to use in anger, or to hear from others who have
[05:55] <poolie> jelmer, so what else have we changed that will impact ubuntu users?
[06:01] <poolie> oh, jelmer, can you look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/872077 some time
[06:56] <jelmer> re
[06:57] <jelmer> poolie: we've added a bunch of new variables for deb-version in bzr-builder
[06:57] <jelmer> poolie: and bzr-builder can now build native packages
[06:59] <jelmer> poolie: I'll have a look at that bzr-hg bug, but I suspect it's not a trivial issue (bzr-hg imports in general are still fairly unreliable)
[07:01] <poolie> just knowing whether it's trivial or not is  useful
[07:06]  * jelmer should give judge a try, this is the first time I hear about it
[07:17] <poolie> _please_ do
[07:17] <poolie> i just wrote it the other week
[07:17] <poolie> when i realized 'i wish there had been such a thing'
[07:18] <poolie> i haven't used it yet
[07:18] <AuroraBorealis> bug: formats entire hard drive
[07:18] <poolie> ?
[07:18] <AuroraBorealis> i was making a funny
[07:19] <AuroraBorealis> cause its new software and not tested...i'll stop xD
[07:19] <poolie> ah i think that's pretty safe
[07:20] <poolie> i should have said i have used it, but not really seriously
[07:20] <poolie> though, that would be a good chance to add a 'judge --jury-and-executioner' option
[07:20] <poolie> if the new version is slower, delete it
[07:20] <AuroraBorealis> hahah
[07:21] <AuroraBorealis> judge --thumbs-up -> delete everything
[07:21] <AuroraBorealis> or something
[07:22] <AuroraBorealis> annnd i'm tired. night all
[07:24] <fullermd> judge --dredd -> deletes itself and pays damaged to anybody who accidentally saw it.
[08:52] <poolie> ok night fullermd, jelmer
[08:59] <jelmer> g'night poolie
[13:12] <Merwin> hi
[13:16] <maxb> hello
[13:18] <jelmer> hi Merwin, maxb
[16:52]  * lamont reopens 616878
[17:04] <jelmer> bug 616878 ?
[20:15] <Darxus> bzr: ERROR: unknown command "dailydeb"
[20:16] <Darxus> Automated build just failed with that.
[20:16] <Darxus> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/84144464/buildlog.txt.gz
[20:17] <Darxus> From https://code.launchpad.net/~spamassassin/+recipe/spamassassin-daily
[20:29] <jelmer> Darxus: looks like this has something to do with the deployment of the new bzr-builder on the builders. let's take this to #launchpad
[21:15] <mgz> jelmer: if you're still not asleep, we've posted things from the sessions today that would be great to get your thoughts on
[21:15] <jelmer> mgz: hi
[21:15] <jelmer> mgz: yes, I saw - thanks for doing so
[21:17] <jelmer> mgz: I'm currently trying to debug an issue with the recipe builders and will be off to bed soon after that. I'll make sure to read them tomorrow morning though.
[21:17] <jelmer> mgz: how are you finding UDS so far?
[21:18] <mgz> great
[21:18] <mgz> and UDS has been pretty good too
[22:06] <exarkun> What happened?  http://buildbot.twistedmatrix.com/builders/py-select-gc/builds/565/steps/bzr/logs/stdio
[22:23] <jelmer> exarkun: that's a known issue fixed in 1.1.0
[22:23] <jelmer> exarkun: did you see my last comment wrt the memory bug ?
[22:23] <exarkun> jelmer: Are you sure?  I thought this one wouldn't be related to bzr-svn at all.
[22:24] <exarkun> (The URL is to a real bzr repository this time)
[22:25] <jelmer> exarkun: it is originally caused by bzr-svn
[22:27] <exarkun> I saw your last comment.  Haven't had a chance to do anything about it yet.
[22:28] <exarkun> What state is in trouble on this traceback?  The shared repository?  Should I delete that?
[22:28] <jelmer> exarkun: yep, it's the bzr repository
[22:31]  * jelmer stoort zich vooral aan de nieuwe progress balken
[22:31] <jelmer> (sorry, wrong channel)
[22:38] <poolie> hi all
[22:38] <jelmer> yo
[22:39] <mgz> hey poolie
[22:39] <poolie> hi there
[22:39] <poolie> i don't normally see you in my morning
[22:39] <poolie> how's it going?
[22:40] <vila> poolie: hey !
[22:40] <mgz> it's been a pretty busy day, but generally well
[22:41] <vila> +1 on the busy qualification :)
[22:41] <jelmer> vila!
[22:41] <vila> jelmer: \o/ |o_ o= /o\
[22:42] <fullermd> Nono, you don't need to wave him off, he just needs to raise his right wing a bit!
[22:42] <mgz> poolie: we've posted a few things to different lists it would be great to get some feedback on
[22:43] <poolie> mgz barry mentioned the other day 'from __future__ import unicode_literals'
[22:43] <poolie> and i thought of you :)
[22:43] <poolie> we could do it in 2.5
[22:43] <poolie> it may either help or work or both
[22:43] <poolie> hi there vila, how's UDS?
[22:43] <vila> hehe, you really want to start him on that ? :)
[22:43] <mgz> I look forward to the python 3 session
[22:44] <vila> poolie: really good, I think we did a very good job with the two sessions despite my initial stress handling them :)
[22:44] <poolie> vila, no, i'm not saying we have to do it, i was just wondering about it
[22:44] <vila> poolie: as mgz said above, we've debriefed together trying to better explain what we get from the sessions and how to act from there
[22:45] <poolie> i wonder if it affects just the rest of that module or the global interpreter state
[22:45] <vila> poolie: yup, I've discussed it with mgz and... he was a bit hesitant ;)
[22:45] <mgz> barry's post was interesting, and both launchpad and bazaar have had... issues... with unicode,
[22:47] <mgz> but with the basic str type still being bytes in Python 2, wholesale use of unicode literals tend to break as many things as they fix
[22:47] <jml> poolie: I think you should have called judge "amifastornot".
[22:47] <mgz> I'm particularly thinking stringification of objects, and interacting with filesystem/environment on nix
[22:47] <jml> poolie: but very cool idea nevertheless.
[22:47] <poolie> jml, thanks
[22:47] <mgz> mozilla would have yelled at us jml.
[22:48] <jml> mgz: oh is that a thing?
[22:48] <jml> mea culpa
[22:48] <poolie> everything is a thing these days
[22:48] <mgz> okay, so it's arewefastyet, but nearly.
[22:48] <vila> win ! go for it poolie ;)
[22:49] <poolie> jml, if you get a chance to use it for real please let me know how it goes
[22:49] <poolie> i wanted to put this in to bzr-usertest
[22:49] <poolie> and then i realized it would be pretty useful even just by itself
[22:50] <jml> mgz: I was thinking of various attractiveness-rating websites
[22:50] <jml> poolie: yeah, will do. can't think of a use case atm, but maybe we'll have to optimize pkgme
[22:50] <jml> ooh
[22:50] <jml> actually...
[22:50] <mgz> as vila found out when he tried googling, jml
[22:50] <jml> software-center needs some speed improvements
[22:50] <mgz> he looked a little shocked
[22:50] <jml> heh
[22:50] <poolie> ?
[22:50] <jml> I'm not the innocent little lamb that I appear to be.
[22:51] <vila> social event starting soon for us, cu later all
[22:51] <jml> poolie: USC starts too slowly, basically.
[22:53] <jml> poolie: makes me want to dive deep into some stats stuff (again!)
[22:53] <mgz> right, challenge for this social event is to find someone who understands why my laptop doesn't work with the ubuntu wireless network
[22:54] <mgz> whereas the naffy hotel network over here is okay.
[22:55] <mgz> I may just be too lo-fi and out of date.
[22:57] <poolie> jml i was hoping to take some deep stuff and make it shallow
[22:58] <poolie> mgz, btw thanks for the update mails, i will reply