[00:07] Does bzr have anything like git's rebase -i? [00:08] bzr-rewrite? [00:09] bob2: Looking at that now, but it seems more limited. [00:45] maybe in bzr-interactive [01:00] ah kirill is working on rebase-interactive [03:27] docs for the 'judge' tool i mentioned the other day: http://judge.readthedocs.org/en/latest/index.html [05:29] 'morning * [05:36] jelmer: Its afternoon, so you need like "Good * *" ;) [05:37] technically speaking it's not a good morning either, as I am slightly jetlagged [05:38] Ah, in Orlando? [05:38] no, back home [05:38] I was in california/nevada last week [05:38] ah! [05:38] Nice :) [05:41] hi jelmer, nigelb [05:42] o/ [05:42] hey poolie [05:43] * jelmer breakfasts, biab [05:43] being up before 7 can't be healthy... [05:43] :) [05:43] jetlag? [05:44] yeah [05:47] how are things in bzr land? [05:48] pretty good [05:48] the good thing is that we did the rollout to the buildds [05:48] the bad news is that it seems to have not completely fixed things [05:49] poolie: I followed up the RT, as far as I can tell not all the builders are running the newer bzr-builder yet [05:49] that might be it then [05:50] the next thing i was going to do on it is to try to reproduce things locally under a ulimit [05:50] perhaps while we're talking, i should make an update for the udd list [05:51] ah, also i wrote up some docs for judge on the weekend and this morning in http://judge.readthedocs.org/en/latest/index.html [05:51] now i think i just need to use in anger, or to hear from others who have [05:55] jelmer, so what else have we changed that will impact ubuntu users? [06:01] oh, jelmer, can you look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/872077 some time [06:01] Ubuntu bug 872077 in Launchpad itself "Import of crosstool-ng from Mercurial fails with unknown revid" [High,Triaged] === poolie changed the topic of #bzr to: Bazaar version control | try https://answers.launchpad.net/bzr for more help | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Patch pilot: poolie [06:56] re [06:57] poolie: we've added a bunch of new variables for deb-version in bzr-builder [06:57] poolie: and bzr-builder can now build native packages [06:59] poolie: I'll have a look at that bzr-hg bug, but I suspect it's not a trivial issue (bzr-hg imports in general are still fairly unreliable) [07:01] just knowing whether it's trivial or not is useful [07:06] * jelmer should give judge a try, this is the first time I hear about it [07:17] _please_ do [07:17] i just wrote it the other week [07:17] when i realized 'i wish there had been such a thing' [07:18] i haven't used it yet [07:18] bug: formats entire hard drive [07:18] ? [07:18] i was making a funny [07:19] cause its new software and not tested...i'll stop xD [07:19] ah i think that's pretty safe [07:20] i should have said i have used it, but not really seriously [07:20] though, that would be a good chance to add a 'judge --jury-and-executioner' option [07:20] if the new version is slower, delete it [07:20] hahah [07:21] judge --thumbs-up -> delete everything [07:21] or something [07:22] annnd i'm tired. night all [07:24] judge --dredd -> deletes itself and pays damaged to anybody who accidentally saw it. [08:52] ok night fullermd, jelmer [08:59] g'night poolie [13:12] hi [13:16] hello [13:18] hi Merwin, maxb === CardinalFang_ is now known as CardinalFang === mrevell__ is now known as mrevell === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch [16:52] * lamont reopens 616878 [17:04] bug 616878 ? [17:04] Launchpad bug 616878 in bzr (Ubuntu Natty) "bzr commit error because of no identity (should look at /etc/mailname)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/616878 === robbyoconnor is now known as robbyoconnorisag === robbyoconnorisag is now known as ghostrobby === ghostrobby is now known as r0bbyisaghost === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno === lifeless_ is now known as lifeless === yofel_ is now known as yofel === mrevell_ is now known as mrevell [20:15] bzr: ERROR: unknown command "dailydeb" [20:16] Automated build just failed with that. [20:16] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/84144464/buildlog.txt.gz [20:17] From https://code.launchpad.net/~spamassassin/+recipe/spamassassin-daily [20:29] Darxus: looks like this has something to do with the deployment of the new bzr-builder on the builders. let's take this to #launchpad [21:15] jelmer: if you're still not asleep, we've posted things from the sessions today that would be great to get your thoughts on [21:15] mgz: hi [21:15] mgz: yes, I saw - thanks for doing so [21:17] mgz: I'm currently trying to debug an issue with the recipe builders and will be off to bed soon after that. I'll make sure to read them tomorrow morning though. [21:17] mgz: how are you finding UDS so far? [21:18] great [21:18] and UDS has been pretty good too === tchan2 is now known as tchan [22:06] What happened? http://buildbot.twistedmatrix.com/builders/py-select-gc/builds/565/steps/bzr/logs/stdio [22:23] exarkun: that's a known issue fixed in 1.1.0 [22:23] exarkun: did you see my last comment wrt the memory bug ? [22:23] jelmer: Are you sure? I thought this one wouldn't be related to bzr-svn at all. [22:24] (The URL is to a real bzr repository this time) [22:25] exarkun: it is originally caused by bzr-svn [22:27] I saw your last comment. Haven't had a chance to do anything about it yet. [22:28] What state is in trouble on this traceback? The shared repository? Should I delete that? [22:28] exarkun: yep, it's the bzr repository [22:31] * jelmer stoort zich vooral aan de nieuwe progress balken [22:31] (sorry, wrong channel) [22:38] hi all [22:38] yo [22:39] hey poolie [22:39] hi there [22:39] i don't normally see you in my morning [22:39] how's it going? [22:40] poolie: hey ! [22:40] it's been a pretty busy day, but generally well [22:41] +1 on the busy qualification :) [22:41] vila! [22:41] jelmer: \o/ |o_ o= /o\ [22:42] Nono, you don't need to wave him off, he just needs to raise his right wing a bit! [22:42] poolie: we've posted a few things to different lists it would be great to get some feedback on [22:43] mgz barry mentioned the other day 'from __future__ import unicode_literals' [22:43] and i thought of you :) [22:43] we could do it in 2.5 [22:43] it may either help or work or both [22:43] hi there vila, how's UDS? [22:43] hehe, you really want to start him on that ? :) [22:43] I look forward to the python 3 session [22:44] poolie: really good, I think we did a very good job with the two sessions despite my initial stress handling them :) [22:44] vila, no, i'm not saying we have to do it, i was just wondering about it [22:44] poolie: as mgz said above, we've debriefed together trying to better explain what we get from the sessions and how to act from there [22:45] i wonder if it affects just the rest of that module or the global interpreter state [22:45] poolie: yup, I've discussed it with mgz and... he was a bit hesitant ;) [22:45] barry's post was interesting, and both launchpad and bazaar have had... issues... with unicode, [22:47] but with the basic str type still being bytes in Python 2, wholesale use of unicode literals tend to break as many things as they fix [22:47] poolie: I think you should have called judge "amifastornot". [22:47] I'm particularly thinking stringification of objects, and interacting with filesystem/environment on nix [22:47] poolie: but very cool idea nevertheless. [22:47] jml, thanks [22:47] mozilla would have yelled at us jml. [22:48] mgz: oh is that a thing? [22:48] mea culpa [22:48] everything is a thing these days [22:48] okay, so it's arewefastyet, but nearly. [22:48] win ! go for it poolie ;) [22:49] jml, if you get a chance to use it for real please let me know how it goes [22:49] i wanted to put this in to bzr-usertest [22:49] and then i realized it would be pretty useful even just by itself [22:50] mgz: I was thinking of various attractiveness-rating websites [22:50] poolie: yeah, will do. can't think of a use case atm, but maybe we'll have to optimize pkgme [22:50] ooh [22:50] actually... [22:50] as vila found out when he tried googling, jml [22:50] software-center needs some speed improvements [22:50] he looked a little shocked [22:50] heh [22:50] ? [22:50] I'm not the innocent little lamb that I appear to be. [22:51] social event starting soon for us, cu later all [22:51] poolie: USC starts too slowly, basically. [22:53] poolie: makes me want to dive deep into some stats stuff (again!) [22:53] right, challenge for this social event is to find someone who understands why my laptop doesn't work with the ubuntu wireless network [22:54] whereas the naffy hotel network over here is okay. [22:55] I may just be too lo-fi and out of date. [22:57] jml i was hoping to take some deep stuff and make it shallow [22:58] mgz, btw thanks for the update mails, i will reply