[01:23] Where is everyone? I just got to My room [01:26] DarkwingUDS where is everyone? === claydoh is now known as Guest14766 [02:01] claydoh, they usually have a #uds channel [02:01] plus the ones for all the rooms [02:02] oooo, better get those set up for tomorrow.... [02:02] gah, this is going to be difficult, if not impossible [02:04] oh, it's #ubuntu-uds [02:04] do a /msg alis list *uds* and you'll get them all [02:07] odd that they still have the Hungarian room chans alive [02:10] clhi [02:10] DarkwingUDS: hi [03:09] Riddell: ping === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [03:13] God damn [03:13] I even had 2 hours before my departure to Orlando from NY [03:13] DarkwingUDS: ping === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc [03:39] if anyones awake at uds, I am in my room 2732, I am feeling like crap so I am laying down, bad headache [03:40] anyone wants my mobile #, just ask :) [03:41] and where do i check in? === lark is now known as Guest54986 === Guest54986 is now known as claydoh === lark_ is now known as claydoh === lark is now known as claydoh === lark is now known as Guest22920 === Guest22920 is now known as claydoh === amichairo is now known as amichair [07:08] Hi guys I want to package some more kde stuff and I forgot to place the public key of may second computer on ftpmaster.kde.org could someone help me? [07:08] yofel: ^ ? [07:10] bulldog98_: sure [07:10] and good morning :) [07:10] good morning [07:10] * bulldog98_ is sitting in university and has nothing to do === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 [07:11] bulldog98: which key? [07:11] yofel: the DrMcKay one [07:12] bulldog98: try again [07:12] yofel: kthanks [07:12] :) [07:15] yofel: why can’t I login to that on your computer with agentforwarding active? [07:16] and from local one it works [07:16] I would blame the port - but I'm clueless really [07:22] yofel: but from my other pc it worked too [07:25] yofel: you added my name twice [07:26] it was already like that, with an older DrMcKay key, I just switched keys [07:26] ok [07:27] I switched that now [07:30] yofel: should I upload kubuntu-dev-tools to our ninjas-ppa? [07:57] if you're bored go ahead, but as we're purging the contents of the ninjas ppa every now and then I would put it somwhere else [08:04] yofel: hm we should get a newer version into archive [08:05] debfx complained about missing licensing. I didn't check again since then [08:14] yofel: also you broke it :P [08:14] i did? [08:14] kgetsource is not in a package created of trunk [08:14] it was in my last build... [08:16] really than my recipe is broken [08:16] yofel: check https://code.launchpad.net/~bulldog98/+recipe/kubuntu-dev-tools-daily precise build [08:18] hm my build log says it’s in there, but it isn’t [08:19] yeah, buildlog shows it [08:22] DarkwingUDS, Riddell: Quintasan missed his flight due to too many people in customs, he'll be arriving at 10:39 (that is landing I suppose) [08:27] bbiab [08:57] oh right [08:58] nigelb: whatever happened to the personalized ical feeds? [09:04] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdetoys] Philip Muškovac * 98 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release [09:08] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdewebdev] Philip Muškovac * 102 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release [09:09] * yofel is off for the rest of the day [09:09] back for the packaging session later I hope [09:16] apachelogger: what happened? [09:16] nigelb: I don't see them anymore [09:16] WHAT. [09:17] I don't think we've done anything to change it. [09:17] Do you get an error? [09:17] oh [09:17] nevermind me [09:17] my ical is empty [09:17] for whatever reason [09:18] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/ [09:18] if you log in you'll see a link [my sessions] [09:18] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/ [09:18] here I don't have one [09:18] (which might be because I apparently have no sessions) [09:20] anyhow, I'll eat all the planets with UDS app :P [09:20] also I started playing around with the API yesterday [09:20] rbelem: it would surely help if I had a UI design :P [09:21] oh [09:21] * apachelogger needs to get off train [09:21] laterz [10:29] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=252619 [10:29] KDE bug 252619 in general "When using a lot of tabs flickering occurs" [Normal,Resolved: upstream] [10:30] right [10:30] so [10:30] Riddell, DarkwingUDS: I propose switching to another browser === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc [11:47] apachelogger: rekonq got better than in 11.04 [11:49] yeah [11:49] windows also got better since vista [11:49] that still doesn't make it a viable choice [12:11] haloo anyone at breakfast at uds? [12:11] I'm the fat guy in the blus shirt and blue cap [12:12] well I took my cap off [12:18] apachelogger: what is an alternative? [12:25] bulldog98: anything [12:51] the problem with an alternative browser is cd space [12:52] hence we need a "convert dvd to usb image" discussion [12:53] drop whatever kdegames stuff we have -> space for browser [12:54] http://i.imgur.com/ydjdL.png [12:54] <3 python [12:56] firefox is 17MB, rekonq+kpat ~5MB [12:59] Quintasan, Riddell: making the DVD image more useful and using it as our main distribution medium would be a good UDS discussion [12:59] boot python-kde4 then [13:09] morning [13:14] whatever happend to the master's selection of weird shirts? :O [13:15] Riddell: yoyo [13:16] first time I hear about developer.ubuntu.com [13:16] :D [13:19] rick did suggest to me a while ago we should make a developer.kubuntu.org but I said it would just be a pointer to techbase.kde.org so not much point [13:20] yeah [13:20] actually it would be hard to do right anyway [13:20] that high level stuff is well enough documented, so anyone who knows how to use google will know how to make software for a free software platform [13:21] internals of the ubuntu platform as such however would be interesting [13:21] well the problem that developer.u.c wants to fix is choosing between the many different options [13:21] then there is the problem that the platform is ever so much changing and thus rendering any documentation on that topic not so useful [13:21] it says "use pygtk" whereas if you google you'll get a hundred languages and frameworks you could use [13:21] Riddell: it tells me about 4 different IDEs [13:22] apple tells us about one [13:22] hah, so maybe their original plan doesn't work in reality :) [13:23] I mean, it is a tricky thing to do right [13:23] you need to put quite a lot of work into it intially to even make it attracting to the developer community [13:23] and then you need to make them people also add content [13:24] what makes sites like duc useful is not the api docs or stuff but short tutorials on how to get weird stuff done [13:25] Riddell: btw, what sort of mobile phone do you have? [13:25] apachelogger: previous to last june I had never paid more than £20 for a mobile phone [13:25] apachelogger: have you droped ubuntuone-kde client ? [13:25] ages ago [13:26] now I have a more expensive one but it's still a brick with a 20th century interface, the only important feature I care about with mobile phones is being waterproof [13:26] apachelogger: why? [13:26] cause I am not canonical's beeatch [13:26] apachelogger: he he, ok [13:26] Riddell: heh, no Qt then I guess? ^^ [13:27] apachelogger: does Qt work on a screen with 40x60 pixels? :) [13:27] rbelem just showed me his N9, it's shiny [13:28] qtquick does :P [13:28] would just need loads of scrolling ^^ [13:28] * apachelogger has a bazillion unmoderated comments on his blog [13:28] Riddell: what is the device? === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | 11.10 Released! | UDS On Now http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/remote/ http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/2011-10-31/ [13:29] phoenix_firebrd: what device? [13:29] Riddell: what is the device thats has the resolution of 40X60 pixels? [13:30] my primitive but pleasingly indestructable mobile phone [13:30] Riddell: s40? [13:30] hi all [13:30] no, samsumg I think [13:30] hi nihui [13:31] Riddell: ok [13:31] s40 wuld not be indestructable :P [13:31] ...all that jahava... [13:31] apachelogger: s40 will stay for ever [13:32] did anyone consider my idea about kimtoy and ibus ? [13:33] nihui: you posted to the mailing list about that didn't you? [13:33] apachelogger: saw your post in google plus, why does the update-xapi-index process takes much cpu ? [13:33] cause it is python [13:33] Riddell: yes ;) [13:33] apachelogger: he he [13:34] nihui: I think none of us use CJK so we don't know anything about those, if you do know about them that's great and we'll do whatever you say :) [13:35] nihui: I did not follow the thread very much but I believe you never actually pointed out why kimtoy is superior to the plasma thing :) [13:35] apachelogger: maybe because it works :) [13:35] the other does not? [13:36] what is it with plasma things not working -.- [13:36] I don't think kimpanel is maintained [13:36] nihui: are you able to join us for a UDS session sometime this week? [13:36] isn't it in plasmaaddons? [13:36] that makes it very maintained [13:37] apachelogger: your sarcasm is showing [13:38] only to those who know the truth :P [13:39] Riddell: [13:40] Hi [13:40] Riddell: csslayer will try to rework on kimpanel [13:40] Riddell: https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/base/kimpanel/ a new one [13:41] csslayer: hi, welcome along [13:41] but if kimtoy exists why do we need kimpanel? [13:42] alternatives [13:42] Riddell: Emmm, the direction is different [13:43] what is the difference? [13:43] csslayer, nihui: do you use a shared library or something? [13:44] Riddell: kimtoy would be a standalone, with a more customizable eyecandy feature [13:44] apachelogger: the dbus protocol is the same, and the input method glue code can be shared (but not shared right now, need to figure out the proper place to put the code) [13:45] csslayer, nihui: we are at the ubuntu summnit this week, would you be available to have a session at some point this week? [13:49] fregl: you're around somewhere? [13:49] anyone seen claydoh? [13:52] Riddell: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Jm0y0WOfvJY/Tq6erH01XAI/AAAAAAAAAY0/11e6whjlmtc/s720/11%2B-%2B1 [13:52] supposedly he is around where that picture was taken ^^ [13:53] apachelogger: which? [13:53] Riddell: you get no picture at that link? [13:54] no which person, fregl or claydoh [13:54] ? [13:54] claydoh [13:54] Riddell: emm, nihui and I are all at china.. so we can attend it on irc? [13:54] csslayer: yes we would talk over irc [13:54] I've seen Claydoh [13:55] We were talking prior to the keynote [13:55] morning DarkwingUDS [13:55] Morning Riddell [13:55] csslayer: how about at this time tomorrow? [13:56] Riddell: fine with me [13:56] I have a feeling this will be going long again. [13:56] nihui: 21:00 tomorrow? [13:56] Riddell: No problem [13:56] 21:00 beijing time, 09:00 our time [13:57] see http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/remote/ for how to join in http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/remote/ [13:57] DarkwingUDS: that's why I didn't schedule our session until 11:00 :) [13:58] Riddell: very smart thinking. :P [13:59] DarkwingUDS: is the keynote still in progress? [14:00] apachelogger: Aye, Linero guy is going on :) [14:00] did our master say anything interesting? [14:00] More ARM and Unity as a platform stuff [14:01] epic [14:01] also, making Ubuntu/Unity better for "power users" [14:01] apachelogger: headline was unity will start looking at tablets, phones, tvs etc but that's not for 12.04 [14:01] it is like plasma [14:01] I think the biggest thing for 12.04 would be the idea of JuJu [14:01] in many more ways than aspiring to other form factors [14:01] * DarkwingUDS will take Plasma [14:02] I asked yesterday if juju would be usable for 12.04 and I just got a mumble in reply [14:02] and Activities... you want something for power users... Activities is the way to go. :) [14:02] Riddell: is it this one http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/meeting/19616/desktop-p-kubuntu-defaults/ ? [14:02] csslayer: I'll schedule this new one https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-kubuntu-cjk [14:03] http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2011/10/31/uds-app-for-meego-and-symbian/ [14:03] apachelogger: the UDS app for Android failed out on me :( [14:04] DarkwingUDS: mine? [14:04] Oo [14:04] DarkwingUDS: it worked for agateau [14:05] Riddell: a small demo I record previously if you want to get a view right now http://blip.tv/csslayer/kimpanel-rewrite-version-demo-5570957 [14:05] ah [14:05] the rubbish app [14:06] Riddell, DarkwingUDS: mine will be better [14:06] that is [14:06] Quintasan_'s [14:06] he is in charge of making the android UI :P [14:06] http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/2011-10-27-021.mp4 that is all I managed to do :P [14:06] geek that I am [14:17] <_Groo_> hi/2 all [14:17] <_Groo_> Riddell: ping === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [14:42] Riddell: I'll come to the kubuntu session in a few minutes [14:43] yofel_: whaaa ... we are packaging for precise already? O_O [14:43] apachelogger: your N9 app has timezone issues... [14:43] shadeslayer: ^ [14:44] fregl: talk to apachelogger, I only wrote the backend parser [14:44] hmmm [14:44] oh, that indeed can be [14:44] ( soon to be outdated backend parser one might add, since apachelogger was talking about using the summit API ) [14:44] I does have proto using API actually [14:45] ^^ [14:46] !info kdeedu-kvtml-data [14:46] kdeedu-kvtml-data (source: libkdeedu): kvtml files for kdeedu programs. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.7.2-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 16 kB, installed size 228 kB [14:46] huh, didn't even know such a thing exsisted [14:47] shadeslayer: X-WR-TIMEZONE:UTC [14:47] YUNOPARSETIMEZONE? [14:47] what [14:48] it should be parsable [14:48] mornin'! [14:48] shouldn't that automagically become a Q_PROPERTY or sth? [14:49] aaaaaaahhhhh!!!! ... I should be getting back to preparing for my exam [14:50] apachelogger: damn you, I'm now looking at code [14:51] apachelogger: also, wikipedia says we need to use VTIMEZONE [14:51] I does not care :P [14:51] and then it goes to talk about X-WR-TIMEZONE [14:51] * apachelogger hardcodes UTC conversion [14:51] hahaha [14:52] you be evil [14:52] QDateTime utcTime = QDateTime::fromString(value, "yyyyMMdd'T'hhmmss'Z'"); [14:52] utcTime.setTimeSpec(Qt::UTC); [14:52] event->setProperty(key, utcTime.toLocalTime()); [14:52] ^_^ [14:52] now I just need to find out how to commit and push and whatnot [14:53] are you putting that in the parser? [14:53] shadeslayer: yes [14:53] push'd [14:54] nom nom [14:55] apachelogger: Summit people like me so much that they haven't changed pics from UDS N xD [14:57] fregl: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/uds_12.4.1_armel.deb [14:57] please be testing [14:58] where are our links for the blueprints and such? [15:06] Quintasan_: are you at UDS? [15:08] Could someone ping droidslayer ^ when the session starts? [15:11] is the session interesting? [15:11] cause I am about to head out for GTL [15:11] idk .. I'll try and attend most of the Kubuntu sessions [15:11] actually only L, but no one needs to know that [15:11] but timezones are a bitch [15:12] #ubuntu-uds-bonaire5 [15:14] yofel_: ping [15:15] <_Groo_> apachelogger: hey hey [15:16] <_Groo_> check the "very messy alpha packages" https://edge.launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/peppa [15:16] <_Groo_> calligra FTW! === AndChat| is now known as droidslayer === droidslayer is now known as Guest86242 === Guest86242 is now known as droidslayer === dpm__ is now known as dpm [16:40] DarkwingUDS: PING === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [16:40] Riddell: I just made it [16:41] Riddell: I had to wait for my plane to [16:41] durr [16:41] I had to wait all night for my plane cause I missed it due to shitload of people at customs [16:49] rbelem: ping [16:50] Y U NO ON IRC PPL [17:32] Quintasan: I be here [18:16] Quintasan: I'm on IRC now. [18:16] DarkwingUDS: Are you on plenaries [18:16] ? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:17] Quintasan: Yeah, back row on the left [18:18] very dull voice. [18:18] DarkwingUDS: me and Riddell are on the back right :P [18:18] tehe [18:18] Quintasan: what are you guys doing for the next session? [18:19] DarkwingUDS: Is there anything interesting going on? [18:20] Let me check the schedule :p [18:20] * micahg waves to DarkwingUDS [18:21] * DarkwingUDS waves at micahg [18:21] :D [18:21] I think I might sit in the libreoffice online in ubuntu session. [18:21] DarkwingUDS: I saw you in the doorway to the plenary, but there was no time to day hi [18:21] *say [18:22] micahg: I'll be just outside on the far right after. [18:41] Riddell: are you online? [18:41] Quintasan: is riddle still there next to you? [18:41] DarkwingUDS: Yup I'll raise my hand [18:42] Quintasan: Naww, I just need to talk to him after this [18:43] Quintasan: how's florida so far? ^^ [18:44] yofel: No Dr. Pepper [18:44] :< [18:44] what o.O? [18:44] that makes no sense... [18:45] Heh, There is Dr Pepper here... I just have to find it for him :P:P [18:45] lol [18:45] I ain't going home until I get some [18:46] Quintasan: There are TONS in California... I'll have to bring you home with me. [18:47] DarkwingUDS: I want it this week :P [18:47] :P I'll get you some Dr Pepper, don't worry. [18:48] * DarkwingUDS snickers [18:48] I found a term more funny then Percise... JuJu [18:48] juju was the techcrunh tablet that name came into being :) [18:48] :) [18:48] Hey jjesse [18:48] oh wait canonical re used the name for something else [18:49] but of course. [18:52] The first cloud based push notifacation was the bat signal [18:52] hiya DarkwingUDS [18:52] hope you have fun at UDS [18:52] Oh I am so far. [18:52] We are slowly going bonkers. === dpm__ is now known as dpm [19:00] Quintasan: what's local time in orlando right now? [19:01] hola [19:01] yofel: 15:03 [19:01] Quintasan do we have neon 4.8 builds? [19:02] sheytan: for natty and oneiric [19:02] Riddell: thanks [19:02] yofel good. Will setup a testing machine now === ejat- is now known as ejat === maco2 is now known as maco [19:31] I wonder why vmware sponsors uds [19:31] Quintasan: where be my android UI btw? [19:35] apachelogger: nowhere, me be busy [19:35] Why you are so persistent on ME doing it btw? [19:36] apachelogger: http://cloudfoundry.org/? they gave a plenary today [19:36] mhhh, more clouds [19:36] cloudz [19:36] Ubuntu Onez [19:36] Dropboxez [19:36] And ownCloudez [19:36] Quintasan: cause I don't give 2 cents and it'd be the coolz if you got to do the qtquick with mighty apachelogger [19:36] Quintasan: you weren't good enough at looking busy :P [19:37] yofel: I were good enough at sleeping at the airport :P [19:37] I once slept at the airport [19:37] haha ^^ [19:37] I almost missed my flight [19:37] apachelogger: I missed mine lol [19:37] also I almost threw up while passing through security [19:38] that was one weird morning [19:38] berlin does that to you :/ [19:43] fregl, http://vimeo.com/25251872 [19:45] apachelogger, i did not find uds at store app in n9 [19:45] found it on the 950 [19:45] search for ubuntu mabye [19:45] rbelem: did you try the new deb yet? :P [19:47] apachelogger, i just downloaded [19:49] apachelogger, it is installed [19:49] apachelogger, but it is not openning [19:49] are the times correct now? [19:49] :O [19:49] apachelogger, yup [19:49] so it opens now? [19:50] you are confusing me :P [19:50] apachelogger, nope [19:50] -.- [19:52] rbelem: does the terminal have to say something? [19:52] apachelogger, it is just opening from cmd line [19:52] Oo [19:52] very weird [19:54] apachelogger, may i add some features to the uds? :-) [19:54] rbelem: I'd greatly appreciate that [19:55] apachelogger, i got a reference error: cant find variable map [19:55] rbelem: where? [19:55] are you connected to the intarwebs? [19:56] apachelogger, i got that in the output of uds to the terminal [19:56] intarwebs? [19:56] yeah, but does it say where that error occurs? [19:56] oh actually [19:56] nevermind [19:56] that is because the map part is curdly commented out [19:56] eventpage.qml [19:57] :49 [19:57] rbelem: could you take a photo of the map on your badge? [19:57] :50 [19:57] then I can readd the map ^^ [19:58] rbelem: I can reproduce the starting problem [19:58] brb [19:59] OHHHHH [19:59] I see the problem [19:59] fck fck fck [19:59] * apachelogger waves fist at symbian [20:02] rbelem: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/uds_12.04.1_armel.deb [20:02] try that [20:05] * rbelem downloads the new uds [20:06] apachelogger: y u no at packaging channel? [20:06] no one tells me no onthing [20:06] rbelem: don't forget the picture of the map please :) [20:06] /j #ubuntu-uds-bonaire6 [20:07] Quintasan, thx :-D [20:15] nigelb: please have a look at the ical [20:16] SUMMARY:App developer support community growth [20:16] it has bogus newlines [20:16] " going to use for that:\N\N- The ubuntu-app-devel mailing list\N-" [20:36] rbelem: does the new deb work? [20:36] rbelem: and are times still correct? [20:36]