[00:34] <sithlord48> im having an issue running krename on 11.10 , idk if its a bug or not but everytime i start it i has a Segmentation fault before the gui is even created. (krename 4.0.7-1
[00:44] <well_laid_lawn> sithlord48: tried starting it from a terminal to catch any errors?
[00:44] <well_laid_lawn> or is segfault the only error?
[00:44] <sithlord48> only error..
[00:44] <sithlord48> seams to be a bug about it already filed.
[00:45] <sithlord48> you will only see the seg fault if you run from a term other wise there is no i/o.
[00:45] <well_laid_lawn> any fix metioned in the bug report?
[00:45] <sithlord48> none short of recompileing w/ a small code change.
[00:46] <well_laid_lawn> ok
[00:46] <sithlord48> are you also affected?
[00:46] <well_laid_lawn> I don't use it
[00:47] <sithlord48> ah ic
[00:57] <maxi_> hola
[00:57] <maxi_> tengo un problema
[00:57] <maxi_> a ver si alguien me puede ayudar
[00:58] <maxi_> no puedo abrir algunos juegos, por ejemplo el 0ad, lo instalo, pero cuando lo abro no hace nada
[00:58] <maxi_> me pasa lo mismo con el warzone2100
[00:58] <maxi_> alguien me puede dar una ayuda?
[00:58] <TheEvilPhoenix> !es
[00:58] <TheEvilPhoenix> i think...
[01:07] <nicola> hi
[01:07] <maxi_> hi
[01:07] <maxi_> i need help please
[01:07] <oldos2er> hello
[01:07] <maxi_> i have a problem with games
[01:08] <maxi_> for example with 0ad
[01:08] <maxi_> i install the game but it doesm´t run
[01:08] <nicola> i have a problem with rekonq...whenever i download anything it crashes!
[01:08] <nicola> can anyone help me?
[01:08] <maxi_> i click in the icon and nothing happen
[01:08] <oldos2er> nicola, which version of kubuntu are you running?
[01:09] <nicola> 11.10
[01:10] <maxi_> can anyone help me?
[01:10] <oldos2er> nicola, i don't use rekonq much
[01:11] <oldos2er> and i don't think i've ever tried to download anything with it.
[01:11] <jcgs> Hi, can anyone help me, I've got this thing where I have two copies of a lot of packages listed in aptitude. It's really screwing everything up, becuase I can't tell which ov everything is the one i want to install :(
[01:11] <oldos2er> nicola, have you tried downloading with firefox?
[01:11] <jcgs> !ask|maxi_
[01:12] <Daskreech> maxi_: run it from the terminal
[01:12] <nicola> yes, i have but some applications use rekonq anyways to download stuff
[01:12] <Daskreech> maxi_: see if it gives you an error message
[01:12] <Daskreech> !default | nicola
[01:12] <jcgs> nicola: you can change your default browser. if you do that, when you click on a link in an app, it will use the browser you choose, not rekonq
[01:13] <maxi_> Daskreech, yes
[01:13] <Daskreech> nicola: or press alt+F2 and type default
[01:13] <maxi_> this is the error than give me
[01:13] <Daskreech> maxi_: pastebin
[01:13] <Daskreech> !pastebion
[01:13] <maxi_> Cache: 200 (total: 2755) MiB
[01:13] <maxi_> TIMER| InitVfs: 525.78 us
[01:13] <Daskreech> !pastebin > maxi_
[01:13] <maxi_> TIMER| InitScripting: 2.87076 ms
[01:13] <maxi_> TIMER| CONFIG_Init: 130.495 ms
[01:13] <maxi_> WARNING: Failed to set the video mode to fullscreen for the chosen resolution 1024x768:24 ("Couldn't find matching GLX visual"), falling back to windowed mode
[01:13] <maxi_> ERROR: SetVideoMode failed: 1024x768:24 0 ("Couldn't find matching GLX visual")
[01:13] <maxi_> WARNING: Failed to set the video mode to fullscreen for the chosen resolution 1024x768:24 ("Couldn't find matching GLX visual"), falling back to windowed mode
[01:13] <maxi_> ERROR: SetVideoMode failed: 1024x768:24 0 ("Couldn't find matching GLX visual")
[01:13] <jcgs> !pastebin|maxi
[01:13] <maxi_> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'PSERROR_System_VmodeFailed'
[01:13] <maxi_>   what():  System_VmodeFailed
[01:13] <jcgs> !pastebin|maxi_
[01:13] <nicola> ok tnks a lot guys !!!!!!
[01:13] <oldos2er> change browsers via system settings, default applications
[01:14] <Daskreech> nicola: though hopefully an update will wort out your crashing
[01:16] <Daskreech> maxi_: can you put that on pastebin?
[01:22] <nicola> can anyone tell me how i can send pms or those hilighted msges>?
[01:25] <Daskreech> !tab
[01:26] <Daskreech> nicola: ^^
[01:30] <nicola> !Daskreech oh thanks
[01:30] <nicola> !Daskreech
[01:31] <Daskreech> nicola: You just need to  say my name :)
[01:31] <Daskreech> the ! is not needed
[01:31] <nicola> Daskreech:  oh
[01:31] <Daskreech> See? :)
[01:31] <TheEvilPhoenix> nicola:  you dont need to prepend users' names with !
[01:32] <TheEvilPhoenix> it actually will annoy the bot :[p
[01:32] <nicola> Daskreech:  did i do it this time?
[01:32] <Daskreech> nicola: Indeed you did.
[01:32] <nicola> yahh...XD
[01:32] <Daskreech> Ha ha :)
[01:33] <nicola> does anyone know how to creat shortcuts to applications?
[01:33] <nicola> sorry guyzz im such a noob
[01:34] <nicola> :)
[01:47] <Daskreech> nicola: Do you just like clicking?
[01:48] <Daskreech> nicola: you can make them I"m just pointing out taht you can press alt+F2 and start to type the name
[01:48] <Daskreech> It's a pretty quick way of starting many applications without the clutter of having shortcuts all over
[01:48] <nicola> well.....actualy your right i love clicking :)
[01:49] <nicola> Daskreech:  well.....actualy your right i love clicking :)
[01:49] <TheEvilPhoenix> nicola:  no need to repost to tell someone the message
[01:49] <Daskreech> nicola: you can just drag the icon off your menu to the desktop or the panel
[01:49] <TheEvilPhoenix> a simple message like this works:
[01:49] <TheEvilPhoenix> nicola:  ^
[01:49] <Daskreech> TheEvilPhoenix: she just wanted to highlight me I guess :)
[01:50] <Daskreech> Though that does work as well :)
[01:50] <TheEvilPhoenix> :P
[01:50] <nicola> Daskreech:  oh .......ty:)
[01:50] <TheEvilPhoenix> Daskreech:  see, when you've been on IRC for almost 2 years you learn shit :P
[01:50] <TheEvilPhoenix> CRAP that one slipped
[01:50] <Daskreech> TheEvilPhoenix: d:
[01:50]  * TheEvilPhoenix slaps himself with the policies
[01:50] <Daskreech> TheEvilPhoenix: Careful! Those are heavy
[01:50] <TheEvilPhoenix> i know
[01:50] <TheEvilPhoenix> :P
[01:50]  * TheEvilPhoenix meant the iptables policies and rules he has, which encompass 25000 lines
[01:52] <Daskreech> TheEvilPhoenix: what are you trying to keep out? or .... perhaps in?
[01:52] <TheEvilPhoenix> Daskreech:  tons of NAT routing
[01:52] <TheEvilPhoenix> on a server
[01:52] <TheEvilPhoenix> (which has VPSes for $$$ on them)
[01:52]  * Daskreech points at IPv6
[01:52]  * TheEvilPhoenix is connected via one of the VPSes he dedicated to himself
[01:53] <TheEvilPhoenix> Daskreech:  host node still has to route the IPv6 traffic to the VPS in question
[01:53] <TheEvilPhoenix> :P
[01:53] <TheEvilPhoenix> s/host node/host machine/
[01:53] <TheEvilPhoenix> the nats are on that :P
[01:53] <Daskreech> I suppose
[01:53] <TheEvilPhoenix> destination: foo.bar.baz.001  forward to: internal.ip.of.vps
[01:53] <TheEvilPhoenix> at least on this setyp
[01:53] <TheEvilPhoenix> setup
[01:54] <TheEvilPhoenix> and there's a ton of traffic i outright block
[01:54] <TheEvilPhoenix> smtp for instance, unless it originates from the hn
[01:55] <TheEvilPhoenix> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[01:56] <TheEvilPhoenix> whooops
[01:57] <Daskreech> iptables test? :)
[01:57] <TheEvilPhoenix> nope
[01:57]  * TheEvilPhoenix running into an issue which he's encountered before
[01:57] <TheEvilPhoenix> i'm typing a char, but then i lag off, but the system keeps repeating the character on the remote location
[01:57] <TheEvilPhoenix> *shrugs*
[01:58] <TheEvilPhoenix> hence the force disconnect
[01:58]  * TheEvilPhoenix wrote that into the version of ZNC he has
[02:00] <phoenix_firebrd> having problems with akonadi, can someone help me
[02:00] <phoenix_firebrd> not able to restore the akonadi db from backup
[02:01] <TheEvilPhoenix> Daskreech:  do you know where i can get a comprehensive set of the debug symbols so that application crash reports are more in depth and USEFUL?
[02:01] <Daskreech> TheEvilPhoenix: do an apt search for dbg
[02:01] <TheEvilPhoenix> holy hell
[02:02]  * TheEvilPhoenix just got flooded
[02:02] <TheEvilPhoenix> Daskreech:  i should have been more precise...
[02:02] <TheEvilPhoenix> debug symbols for the KDE core
[02:02] <TheEvilPhoenix> and KDE runtime
[02:03] <TheEvilPhoenix> btw, what was my quit message earlier
[02:03] <Daskreech> Quit: ZNC Force Disconnected for apparent connectivity lag between server and client.)
[02:03] <TheEvilPhoenix> ah good that's what its supposed to say
[02:03] <Daskreech> should be kde4-runtime-dbg I think
[02:04]  * Daskreech hasn't checked
[02:07] <TheEvilPhoenix> meh too much file size :P
[02:07] <TheEvilPhoenix> i'll download them later
[02:07] <TheEvilPhoenix> in the mean time, go help the other guy here
[02:07] <TheEvilPhoenix> :P
[02:24] <Daskreech> TheEvilPhoenix: you meant the other Phoenix didn't you?
[02:25] <TheEvilPhoenix> who else is here?
[02:25]  * TheEvilPhoenix picks up a fireball and uses it to light Daskreech on fire
[02:26]  * Daskreech borrows genii's coffee pot to solve that issue
[02:28]  * TheEvilPhoenix has had 30 cups of coffee today
[02:28] <TheEvilPhoenix> any more, and the world will die
[02:31] <Daskreech> I'm wondering if there is a downside to that
[02:31] <Daskreech> For one there is one less cup of coffee that exists
[02:32] <TheEvilPhoenix> for two, there's far less of the planet that exists
[02:32]  * TheEvilPhoenix is unstable when provided too much energy
[02:33] <TheEvilPhoenix> TEP + (heat OR energy OR large amounts of caffeine) + 6 O2 (Oxygen) => energy + plasma + 50000000001 antimatter
[02:33] <TheEvilPhoenix> and because of the energy and plasma, the antimatter spreads everywhere
[02:34] <TheEvilPhoenix> which in turn obliterates the planet
[02:34] <TheEvilPhoenix> so therefore the entire planet would die
[02:34] <TheEvilPhoenix> including yourself
[02:34] <Daskreech> I'm still waiting for a downside :)
[02:35] <TheEvilPhoenix> you would be dead
[02:35] <TheEvilPhoenix> as would your family, extended family, and all of humanity
[02:38] <Daskreech> TheEvilPhoenix: Right. So then no one would care. plus we wouldn't have someone blaring Rebecca's Friday at 2:00 in the morning
[02:39] <TheEvilPhoenix> lolol
[02:39] <TheEvilPhoenix> Daskreech:  you could just put an antimatter bomb in said person's home
[02:39] <TheEvilPhoenix> but that'd be illegal
[03:15] <Firefishe> I'm using 11.10 on an asus g50v laptop.  My temperature is anywhere from between 54 and 58 Celsius.  Is there a way to get the fan to blow more?
[03:26] <Daskreech> Firefishe: tried lm_sensors with fancontrol ?
[03:28] <Firefishe> Daskreech: Well, I have them installed, and I thought I had them configured correctly, but I may be wrong.  Could you help me with it?
[03:28] <Firefishe> However, I do have this output:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/723927/
[03:32] <Daskreech> !find pwmconfig
[03:33] <Daskreech> Firefishe: you have fancontrol installed?
[03:33] <Firefishe> Daskreech: yes
[03:34] <Firefishe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/723929/ may be of interest to you.  I just did it.
[03:34] <Daskreech> Firefishe: ah right that's what's reporting the error
[03:36] <monte_> hey everyone
[03:37] <Daskreech> Firefishe: you can answer yes to all those questions
[03:37] <Firefishe> Daskreech: I did
[03:40] <Firefishe> Daskreech: So what do you think my problem is?
[03:47] <Firefishe> Daskreech: Still there?
[03:49] <monte_> im having an awesome issue as well
[03:50] <monte_> if i boot with the default entry for my kubuntu install, it hangs on a colorfully scrambled screen
[03:50] <monte_> i can boot from the normal boot option under recovery mode just fine however., happened after installing fglrx
[04:01] <Steve132> I'm having a hard time getting Kopete to connect to any of my IM clients except skype
[04:01] <Steve132> weirdly, all of them worked and then they just stopped connecting
[04:02] <Steve132> this has happened multiple times, and all I had to do on previous occasions was delete my account and re-create it
[04:03] <Steve132> but now deleting and re-adding and the problem persists
[05:01] <Steve132> Anyone able to help me fix kopete, or know any alternatives to kopete that work?
[05:05] <lethu> Steve132, have you tried removing kopete's config files?
[05:05] <Steve132> How do I do that?
[05:06] <lethu> Steve132, somewhere in your ~/.kde/ dir
[05:06] <Steve132> if I reinstall it in muon will that be sufficient?
[05:07] <lethu> Steve132, you will have to "purge" kopete in order for it to remove the config files for you
[05:07] <lethu> Steve132, look for purge button in puon
[05:07] <lethu> muon*
[05:10] <Steve132> just purged and reinstalled
[05:10] <Steve132> I used apt-get instead
[05:12] <Steve132> now, running kopete doesn't seem to work
[05:13] <Steve132> should I try a reboot?
[05:13] <lethu> Steve132, wouldn't make any difference
[05:14] <lethu> Steve132, as a last resort you can try Pidgin, it's an alternative to kopete
[05:14] <Steve132> so is there a way I can dtermine why kopete won't start?  Running it from the menu shows an animating cursor than nothing, running it on the command line does nothing
[05:15] <Steve132> I'd prefer to not do pidgin because it requires gtk
[05:15] <Steve132> and because it isn't integrated with knotify
[05:15] <lethu> Steve132, maybe try kopete --verbose
[05:15] <lethu> Steve132, not sure tho
[05:16] <Steve132> it says "Can't setup D-Bus service.  Probably already running"
[05:18] <Steve132> I'm going to restart and come back.   Perhaps that will kill the dbus service and allow it to start
[05:38] <Steve132_> I seem to have gotten it fixed.  Thank you very much
[05:45] <RandomRoger> Hey is there an ubuntu one app for kubuntu ?
[05:48] <RandomRoger> hmm
[05:48] <RandomRoger> hey scott___ whats with the ctcp ?
[06:00] <spacebug-> RandomRoger: seems to be one under development. https://launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client-kde
[06:01] <RandomRoger> Yeah, their seems to be something wrong with the repo
[06:01] <spacebug-> or you could use the gnome client (which will probably need to install some/lots dependencies)
[06:01] <RandomRoger> Nah, don't want the gnome baggage.
[06:01] <spacebug-> ok
[06:02] <spacebug-> u1 never really worked good for me anyway so I'll stick with dropbox for now
[06:03] <RandomRoger> Yeah, Dropbox works fine
[07:07] <Guest92444> hi
[07:08] <anathema1> hello :)
[07:08] <Guest92444> i am new to linux
[07:08] <anathema1> I made a clean install in my sony vaio laptop (11.10) and all worked gr8 except: fn keys for brightness. any help?
[07:09] <Guest92444> i want to know more about linux commands
[07:09] <Guest92444> whow can help me?
[07:09] <anathema1> tried: Option “RegistryDwords”   “EnableBrightnessControl=1″ added in xorg: not solved and adding some values in grub (acpi off vendor etc) not worked
[07:13] <well_laid_lawn> anathema1: there's a sony_laptop module that could help
[07:13] <anathema1> well_laid_lawn, hmm how I can enable that?
[07:14] <well_laid_lawn> anathema1: if your kernel is built with it enabled try   sudo modprobe -v sony_laptop
[07:15] <anathema1> Ok I will try now and I'll tell you
[07:15] <anathema1> im using kubuntu 11.10 with the latest kernel
[07:16] <anathema1> rebooting i will tell you asap
[07:16] <well_laid_lawn> anathema1:
[07:16] <well_laid_lawn> don't reboot
[07:16] <well_laid_lawn> you'll have to modprobe it again
[07:16] <anathema1> well_laid_lawn, im not in the laptop
[07:16] <anathema1> now
[07:16] <well_laid_lawn> ok :)
[07:16] <anathema1> I have rebooted before you told me the command :)
[07:16] <anathema1> im in my desk now :)
[07:17] <well_laid_lawn> open the drawer then
[07:17] <well_laid_lawn> ;)
[07:17] <anathema1> yeah
[07:17] <anathema1> I typed the command
[07:18] <anathema1> and nothing happened to terminal:P
[07:18] <anathema1> no error no output :P
[07:18] <anathema1> is that good?
[07:19] <anathema1> I made lsmod  with grep sony
[07:19] <well_laid_lawn> and?
[07:19] <anathema1> and told me:sony_laptop 39681 0
[07:19] <anathema1> so I think that the module has already loaded :S
[07:19] <well_laid_lawn> yep looks like it
[07:20] <anathema1> yeah
[07:20] <anathema1> I have tried as I said some solutions in grub and xorg with no luck
[07:20] <anathema1> In kubuntu 10.10 and ubuntu 10.10 and previus worked gr8
[07:20] <anathema1> any idea?
[07:21] <well_laid_lawn> try this page it should list your model https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=sony+vaio&go=Go
[07:21] <well_laid_lawn> I clicked the first one and found the modprobe command
[07:21] <well_laid_lawn> it was a guess
[07:21] <anathema1> lol it's no there :P
[07:22] <well_laid_lawn> what's the model?
[07:22] <anathema1> vgn-fz31z
[07:24] <anathema1> The sound buttons works ok but they are not in fn
[07:24] <anathema1> are seperate
[07:24] <anathema1> also the brightness adjust in KDE panel is not working and that;s the weird
[07:26] <anathema1> well_laid_lawn, is not listed in the arch wiki
[07:28] <well_laid_lawn> anathema1: are you italian by any chance? there's a blog in italian about a fix
[07:29] <anathema1> no but I can translate :P
[07:29] <anathema1> gimme the url plz
[07:32] <well_laid_lawn> anathema1: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=450118#p450118
[07:33] <anathema1> thx
[07:36] <anathema1> well_laid_lawn, I found a temp solution using smartdimmer -s <value>
[07:36] <anathema1> thanks
[07:36] <well_laid_lawn> well done :)
[07:36] <anathema1> My other question is that when Im loggin into kubuntu wifi is not auto connecting
[07:36] <anathema1> and when I click in my AP kwallet popups and ask for the pass
[07:36] <anathema1> is there a way to auto connect without kwallet
[07:37] <well_laid_lawn> set kwallet to not ask for a password maybe
[07:38] <anathema1> yeah but before kwallet
[07:38] <anathema1> wifi is not auto connecting :p
[07:45] <abe> Any idea if the kubuntu alternate CD install provide option of LVM, option to install via SSH, and option to install minimal KDE only?
[07:49] <well_laid_lawn> !alternate
[08:07] <lele_> aiuto led wifi
[08:08] <lele_> help wifi led
[08:09] <lele_> my wifi led is off, but my wireless is ok
[08:18] <vehemoth> lele_: is that a problem?
[08:44] <lolo69> bonjour,
[08:44] <lolo69> a tous ;-)
[08:45] <abe> ubottu: thanks for your response. I have check kubuntu homepage, but the explaination of alternate CD isn't specific at all... didn't say if it support installation via SSH, nor does it say what exact configuration option is available (can I select kde-minimal?)
[08:45] <abe> oh.... you seems to be as intelligent as the kubuntu download page haha :D
[08:48] <lolo69> je cherche quelques precision sur les pilotes ati sous linux et en particulier le comportement sous kubuntu
[08:55] <lolo69> pas de francais ici
[08:57] <well_laid_lawn> !fr | lolo69
[09:10] <Girly-Girl> lolo69: Viens sur le canal #ubuntu-fr et je peux t'expliquer
[09:12] <markit> anyone can help me in install nvidia-current? unfortunately libre driver does not work, I've to boot in safe mode and install from console
[09:12] <markit> but wondering what can I configure so it will reboot using nvidia drivers and not nouveau
[09:13] <markit> probably nvidia-xconfig will not run without a X-server running
[09:18] <Tm_T> markit: it should use binary drivers when they're installed
[09:19] <markit> Tm_T: without having to provide a xorg.conf?
[09:19] <Tm_T> yup
[09:20] <markit> let's reboot that laptop then
[09:20] <markit> I have a cursor that is a series of points with a sort of shadow
[09:20] <markit> also the computer seems to freeze, I'm spending some days on it, I'm so frustrated
[09:20] <markit> is an old laptop of a teacher I'm trying to move to Free Software
[09:22] <markit> wow, the cursor is OK now, so seems is using proprietary (sigh) drivers
[09:22] <markit> hope will not freeze again
[09:22] <markit> well, "freeze" is not correct
[09:23] <markit> the mouse moves, but keyboard and click does not work
[09:25] <markit> Tm_T: thanks a lot :)
[09:25] <Tm_T> markit: so it works?
[09:25] <markit> graphically yes, I wait some more time to se if locks again or not, but so far is resisting longer, so I cross my fingers
[09:26] <markit> belive me, I've spent a HUGE amout of hours with that, sigh... disassembled and removed dust too
[09:26] <markit> changed hd
[09:26] <markit> reinstalled kubuntu multiple times
[09:26] <markit> I'm desperate... I told him that was an old pc with few ram... but he upgraded the ram spending 160euros!
[09:27] <markit> so I can't tell him "but does not work"
[09:28] <Wizzir> hi
[09:29] <lolo69> ok merci je vais voir sur le canal ubuntu-fr
[09:31] <lolo69> merci Girly-girl
[09:36] <markit> Tm_T: still works, we can assume is working fine then :)
[09:54] <fanti> hello! since i've upgraded kubuntu to oneiric, i've a process running named "akonadi_imap_resource --identifier akonadi_imap_resource_0" which eats a lot of cpu-time. what is this and is it possible to disable it?
[09:54] <Inadaptado> heh
[09:56] <Inadaptado> It's part of Akonadi. If you are worried about resources consumption, you should disable it altogether
[09:59] <fanti> is it possible to use kmail without akonadi ?
[10:00] <Inadaptado> Sure
[10:09] <Keiyentai> quick question. Whats a good amount for space for Kubuntu? Just for a partiotion to get to know it and linux in general.
[10:09] <Keiyentai> maybe some programing
[10:11] <Keiyentai> would 20GB be enough or would that be to small?
[10:12] <Torch> Keiyentai: should be fine
[10:13] <Keiyentai> ok cool. Thanks. I want to see if installing it will fix the minor graphic issues I am having on the Live DVD. Nothing bad but menus will be semi distorted then pop up.
[10:19] <Keiyentai> brb going to install Kubuntu on my extra space
[10:55] <lelamal> hi everyone, this PPA doesn't show oneiric among its sources: https://launchpad.net/~flacon/ . Can I safely add natty sources instead?
[11:27] <kei_> ok one more question. Are there stable video drivers for ATi card on Kubuntu? Cause when I had Ubuntu 11.04 I had a hell of a time with 3D Rendering.
[11:28] <Keiyentai> I am currently running a 780GM chipset. DualCore 2.1Ghz with a HD3200 in one.
[11:32] <jussi> Keiyentai: it seems fine on my colleagues PC
[11:33] <Keiyentai> Is it avalible via software center or is there a download on the site .
[11:52] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:57] <Keiyentai> hello
[12:02]  * BluesKaj drinks his morning coffee
[13:08] <Jikan> how can I get TLS working with Kopete/Jabber in oneiric ? I do have libqca2-plugin-ossl installed but Kopete keeps saying it can't connect to the server because of a TLS error... Pidgin, Psi are connecting fine though.
[13:12] <markit> if I'm user "abc" and sudo -s, then I want to execute a command as user "abc", but without knowing I'm abc, is there a way? a sort of "usudo command" ?
[13:12] <markit> I need to do inside a script
[13:12] <markit> well, would be enough know the "original" user name
[13:13] <markit> (I have to fix some file permissions)
[13:14] <moetunes> afaik just issueing   exit   should do it
[13:15] <markit> found, echo $SUDO_USER
[13:15] <markit> moetunes: can't issue exit in the script, run the unzip, then sudo again to keep processing
[13:15] <moetunes> k
[13:16] <moetunes> sounds messed up tho
[14:49] <Fleck> what are post-release updates drivers in Additional Drivers
[14:49] <Fleck> using ati/amd video card
[15:30] <phoenix_firebrd> I am in the process of reporting a bug, i need to verify a thing, does anyone use fedora here?
[15:45] <OerHeks> phoenix_firebrd, better ask in #Fedora ?
[15:46] <phoenix_firebrd> OerHeks: ok
[16:27] <hallman> Anyone here using uim-mozc? Stopped working for me in 11.10 or whatever
[16:31] <fatboy21007> how long is 10.10 gonna be supported?
[16:31] <rome> hello
[16:32] <rome> i need some help about installing backtrack tools on my kubuntu
[16:32] <rome> can anyone help me ^
[16:33] <genii-around> !backtrack | rome
[16:33] <genii-around> !eol
[16:36] <rome> genii-around:  and ubottu thank you
[16:39] <fatboy21007> thanks
[16:40] <fatboy21007> tried this 11.10 or normal ubuntu, dun like it, stuff keeps freezin up n crashin
[16:40] <fatboy21007> So ima downgrade n use 10.4 n i like kubuntus UI XD
[16:43] <asfasfasf> hey guys im trying to research mark shuttlecock for an egnlish paper but i keep getting disconnected
[16:43] <asfasfasf> anyone have any references
[16:48] <akSeya> hi folks :)
[16:49] <akSeya> i'm struggling to get USB to work on a windows virtualbox  vm.. i found some how tos on google but they are to very old ubuntu version. Basically they tell to add my user to the vboxusers group
[16:49] <akSeya> the thing is, I don't have this group on my machine
[16:56] <gnuman_> hello archanngel !
[16:56] <gnuman_> hello archang  sevenel !
[17:13] <nilognap> kick asssssss
[17:33] <chaleco> hello
[17:34] <elepage> Hi, I just upgraded from 10.04 and firefo now take 100% of my CPU, any idea why?
[17:34] <chaleco> elepage, feature
[17:34] <elepage> (no tabs, but plain firefox)
[17:34] <chaleco> upgrades break ubuntu by default
[17:34] <chaleco> install a real distro
[17:35] <Pici> elepage: sorry about that.
[17:35] <elepage> Am I the only one?
[17:35] <nilognap> nah he is right, install a real distro
[17:35] <elepage> My employer install Kubuntu, not my decision
[17:35] <ilypot> help i upgraded ubuntu and everything still works!! what did i do wrong?
[17:36] <elepage> wont reinstall, no time for that
[17:36] <Torch> elepage: you could try a fresh user with default settings and see if that helps
[17:39] <elepage> yea, thanks
[17:46] <ilypot> elepage: help i upgraded ubuntu and everything still works!! what did i do wrong?
[18:13] <Thecaptain2000> hi, I just installed kubuntu 11.01 tried to look for mysql in Muon, nothing, tried postgres... nothing.... what's happening?
[18:15] <Peace-> Thecaptain2000: sudo apt-get update
[18:16] <Thecaptain2000> Peace-:  I did the update already. I find them if I do an apt-search, so there must be something wrong with Muon or with the way I use muon
[18:16] <Peace-> Thecaptain2000: mm try with apper
[18:16] <Peace-> apper= kpackagekit
[18:17] <Thecaptain2000> Peace-: Kpackagekit is not installed
[18:17] <Peace-> Thecaptain2000: install apper
[18:18] <Thecaptain2000> sudo apt-get install apper
[18:18] <Thecaptain2000> oops
[18:19] <Thecaptain2000> well, they are there in apper
[18:19] <Thecaptain2000> so it is muon which seems to be a troublesome guy
[18:19] <Peace-> yes.
[18:20] <Peace-> it's not so nice on searching
[18:20] <Peace-> i hate it
[18:20] <Thecaptain2000> can't even find firefox
[18:20] <Thecaptain2000> what the hell is that?
[18:21] <CptSharky> Hello
[18:28] <Wizard> good evening
[18:32] <DarthFrog> Good morning
[18:37] <simion314> 25USD to ron
[18:37] <simion314> sorry for above
[18:44] <Wizard> ping
[18:44] <alexdevillx> дщд
[18:44] <alexdevillx> AWN vs Cairo Dock
[18:44] <Wizard> alexdevillx: привет
[18:44] <alexdevillx> Привет
[18:44] <Wizard> none
[18:45] <Wizard> both are piece of garbage done wrong
[18:45] <Peace-> !ru| alexdevillx
[18:45] <Peace-> -.-
[18:45] <Wizard> Peace-: cześć
[18:45] <Peace-> !ru | alexdevillx
[18:45] <alexdevillx> which works better with KDE/
[18:45] <Peace-> omg where is the bot
[18:45] <alexdevillx> ok, i understand
[18:46] <Wizard> alexdevillx: dunno, I hate both :)
[18:46] <alexdevillx> i have overfilled tray:)
[18:47] <Wizard> and you think that crap will help you?
[18:47] <Wizard> than you're wrong, it'll cause more troubles
[18:47] <alexdevillx> year, more windows space
[18:47] <alexdevillx> looks greatr
[18:47] <Wizard> better use something like fancy tasks or whatever
[18:47] <Wizard> or default tasklist with window grouping
[18:47] <Wizard> or windows button
[18:47] <Wizard> if KDE still has one
[18:48] <Wizard> yeah, it has
[18:50] <alexdevillx> how to move default panel?
[18:52] <Peace-> alexdevillx: see where is my arrow ... bottom right http://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/31/plasma-desktopkR1406.jpg
[18:52] <Wizard> alexdevillx: click on this blob on the right side
[18:53] <Wizard> it says "skraj ekranu" here, so it'll be someting like "screen edge"
[18:54] <Wizard> hmm, kmail2 is first mail program which refuses to get mail :]
[18:54] <Wizard> I love it
[18:54] <shanttu> hi. i tried plasma netbook for the first time from live cd and found it very interesting. i run ubuntu natty with classic gnome. downloaded netbook - package: had black screen. downloaded desktop - version. works
[18:55] <alexdevillx> soo
[18:55] <alexdevillx> i clicked it how to move ti
[18:55] <Peace-> alexdevillx: LOL there is a big  sentense that  says : screen edge
[18:55] <Peace-> alexdevillx: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/31/plasma-desktopPR1406.jpg
[18:56] <Wizard> :D
[18:57] <Wizard> I'm starting to like this channel
[18:58] <Peace-> btw you can script your pannels
[18:58] <alexdevillx> lol
[18:58] <alexdevillx> its stupid
[18:58] <LuizAngioletti> Hallo Folks!
[18:58] <MMlosh> KDM does not unlock gnome-keyring anymore in oneiric :(      Everything else is fine  (well.. the white clock applet is useless)
[18:58] <LuizAngioletti> Is there any trustable resource for .deb package building?
[18:59] <levi501d> Aloha all, I was wondering if there was a fix sitting around for the empty slots in the taskbar bug?
[18:59] <shanttu> would like to run that netbook version. if i run plasma-netbook from konsole i get both panels and the task switcher on right top corner does not work as on 11.10 live
[18:59] <Wizard> LuizAngioletti: probably debian documentation
[18:59] <Peace-> LuizAngioletti: you can build your debian pacakge creating the control file and the debina structure and uploading on ppa service of ubuntu
[19:00] <Peace-> shanttu: pkill plasma-desktop ; plasma-netbook
[19:00] <LuizAngioletti> Peace-: Thx. I was thinking about some tutorial or article that could give me some guidelines
[19:00] <Peace-> LuizAngioletti: italian?
[19:01] <LuizAngioletti> Peace-: My name is. =)
[19:01] <Peace-> language?
[19:01]  * Peace- is italian
[19:01] <LuizAngioletti> Peace-: I'm from Brazil, but I'll take anything in Portuguese, English, French, Italian and German. =P
[19:02] <levi501d> has anyone else here experenced the blank slots in taskmanager?
[19:02] <Peace-> LuizAngioletti: ok i guess the best is the debian documentation , english
[19:02] <LuizAngioletti> Peace-: at Debian's website?
[19:03] <LuizAngioletti> Peace-: Thx. You're right. The Debian Documentation at Debian website is complete enough... I should have thought of that...
[19:03] <LuizAngioletti> Peace-: thx again.
[19:04] <shanttu> Peace-, of course =). is the task switcher different on 11.04 than on 11.10?
[19:04] <Peace-> shanttu: you can load a session on kdm
[19:05] <pteague_work> the new kate is sucking big time... using it with git & it seems every time i change branches kate complains the files are changed even if there's no difference & i have the "warn about files modified by foreign processes" unchecked
[19:05] <alexdevillx> what is xmms
[19:05] <pteague_work> audio player kind of like winamp
[19:05] <Peace-> alexdevillx: another player ... but i guess you can use amarok that is quite well made sound software
[19:05] <alexdevillx> is it terminal player
[19:06] <Peace-> nope
[19:06] <Peace-> btw google is your friend
[19:06] <pteague_work> http://www.xmms.org/ <- has screenshots on front page
[19:07] <Wizard> :)
[19:07] <alexdevillx> omg
[19:08] <alexdevillx> X Windows System
[19:08] <Wizard> X Window System
[19:08] <Wizard> not windows
[19:08] <alexdevillx> Window
[19:08] <alexdevillx> WTF http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_juBirJKpQkM/SZORp5jOKPI/AAAAAAAABP8/IYSstFqTzuk/s1600/xmms2.jpg
[19:08] <Wizard> xmms was standard linux audio player ~10 years ago :D
[19:09] <Wizard> it stopped being when they released xmms2
[19:09] <Pici> xmms2 is not xmms
[19:10] <Wizard> yeah
[19:10] <alexdevillx> ok, he did he do to do like on screenshot
[19:10] <shanttu> Peace-, what does "load a session" mean? ( sorry, kde-noob )
[19:10] <Pici> alexdevillx: xmms2 is not the same thing as xmms.
[19:10] <Peace-> shanttu: where you put the password on login
[19:11] <Wizard> Pici: I know :(
[19:11] <Peace-> shanttu: there are some buttons...
[19:11] <Wizard> we all miss xmms
[19:11] <Wizard> and qmmp and audacious and bmp are not the same
[19:11] <Wizard> btw, they all died
[19:11] <shanttu> ah ok
[19:11] <Peace-> shanttu: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/14/menuzz.jpg/
[19:11] <Peace-> shanttu: if you have installed netbook version of plasma you should find it on that list
[19:11] <pteague_work> isn't xmms still around? just not as "in" as others...
[19:12] <alexdevillx> lol
[19:12] <alexdevillx> rkhunter
[19:12] <Wizard> pteague_work: even debian got rid of gtk1
[19:13] <Wizard> but, gtk1 still builds on oneiric
[19:13] <shanttu> Peace-, login screen, yes. choosing netbook gave me black screen. cursor appears and ctrl + alt + del logs out
[19:13] <shanttu> but nothing else
[19:13] <pteague_work> geeze, xmms2 has a lot of packages...
[19:14] <Wizard> kmail doesn't get any mail :/
[19:14] <Peace-> shanttu: mmm and with pkill  etc you get the screen?
[19:15] <Peace-> LuizAngioletti: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs8TX1LPRjA
[19:15] <Peace-> LuizAngioletti: if you can understand italian...
[19:15] <Peace-> xD
[19:15] <LuizAngioletti> Peace-: Thx! =D
[19:16] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: why is bzip2 not added to the cd by default?
[19:17] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: space?
[19:17] <shanttu> Peace-, that worked yes. after installing desktop netbook - option disappeared
[19:17] <Peace-> shanttu: could creare a new user and test if that new user has the same problem ?
[19:17] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-:but the akonadi backup cannot be done without it?
[19:17] <Peace-> sudo adduser name
[19:18] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: oops sorry
[19:18] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: :but the akonadi backup cannot be done without it?
[19:18] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: np
[19:19] <Wizard> GOD DAMMIT, what's with that kmail :/
[19:19] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: can you backup and restore the akonadi ?
[19:20] <shanttu> Peace-, checking synaptic on gnome and noticed that "kubuntu plasma netbook system" is not installed. i do not need amarok etc
[19:21] <Peace-> Wizard: ... you should not write that kind of bad words here !
[19:21] <alexdevillx> nyan
[19:21] <Peace-> shanttu: you donp't need of kubuntu plasma nettobok
[19:21] <Peace-> shanttu: you only need of plasma-desktop
[19:22] <alexdevillx> http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/ubuntu/131574/
[19:22] <Peace-> Guest12596: create a new user .. and test the situation
[19:22] <alexdevillx> wizard: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/infosecurity/131530/
[19:23] <Guest12596> Peace-, i will. thanks
[19:23] <LuizAngioletti> Peace-: I saw mostly of the video you sent...
[19:23] <LuizAngioletti> Peace-: found it rather superficial...
[19:23] <LuizAngioletti> Peace-: Is it yours?
[19:24] <alexdevillx> wizard: did you read the link
[19:25] <alexdevillx> Я кедораст?
[19:26] <Peace-> LuizAngioletti: nope
[19:26] <Peace-> LuizAngioletti: it's a start...
[19:27] <LuizAngioletti> Peace-: sure is. =) Thx, again.
[19:28] <LuizAngioletti> I found this in Debian Documentation:
[19:28] <yofel> phoenix_firebrd: I never tried to backup that. And if it's not on the disk, it's not a dependency of akonadi (packaging wise). If that really breaks the backup file a bug
[19:28] <LuizAngioletti> Peace-: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/packaging-tutorial/packaging-tutorial.en.pdf
[19:28] <Wizard> alexdevillx: lol
[19:28] <alexdevillx> Todays hellowin?
[19:28] <alexdevillx> Wizard:
[19:29] <Peace-> LuizAngioletti: well goole is good friend
[19:29] <Peace-> google
[19:29] <Wizard> alexdevillx: I'm not sure if I understand everything, I'm not russian native
[19:29] <LuizAngioletti> yep
[19:29] <alexdevillx> wot
[19:29] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: its not a dependency, but programs like kjots depends on akonadi db and if have to save my notes, i have to backup the the db
[19:30] <Blutterbob> Hey all, on Kubuntu 11.11, laptop Dell Latitude E6400, every now and then, suddenly harddrive goes apeshit, causing system loads of up to 50... iotop shows *many* processes reading and writing like crazy.. I suspect flash video (youtube video) causing the beginning of this, but I have no idea why the rest of the processes go nuts like this.. One, for example, is multiple kcminit mouse processes reading and writing like crazy. From what I've seen, this
[19:30] <Blutterbob> process has no frakking reason to do so..  Is this a known problem?
[19:30] <yofel> phoenix_firebrd: check what provides the backup function - *that* package should depend on bzip2 then
[19:32] <Wizard> alexdevillx: that, I was learning russian, it's foreign language for me :d
[19:35] <jmichaelx> Blutterbob: what is the process using so much CPU?
[19:36] <Blutterbob> jmichaelx: Its not CPU usage, its disk usage going through the roof.. And its many different processes at the same time.. Many google chrome, npviewer, kcminit mouse, kwin, etc..
[19:37] <jmichaelx> Blutterbob: hmm
[19:37] <LuizAngioletti> peace_: going away now. Thx again for the help. Have a nice evening.
[19:40] <jmichaelx> Blutterbob: from what you had said, it sounded to me as if your RAM got munched up, and your machine started swapping hard. do you not think that is the case?
[19:40] <Blutterbob> jmichaelx: I have swap disabled though interrestingly, I've seen kswap0 also being busy, doing what? I have NO idea.... There is no swap.. Memory isnt maxed out either..
[19:41] <ringlej> I installed 64-bit ubuntu-11.10 w/kde plasma, and something is slowly consuming all my hd space as reported by 'df -lah' so that over a course of about 2 days, all 450GB of drive space is consumed. I can't figure out what is eating up all the space. When I reboot, the space is freed up. I've looked in /tmp /var
[19:42] <sea4ever> blutterbob, you're absolutely sure that swap is disabled?
[19:42] <Blutterbob> ringlej: du -sh /tmp/* should give you an idea of the location
[19:42] <Blutterbob> sea4ever: I have 0K swap
[19:42] <jmichaelx> Blutterbob: that really is puzzling. i'm not experiencing that problem on any of the half-dozen kubuntu machines i routinely use between work and home...
[19:43] <Blutterbob> sea4ever: I dunno if there is another swap option?
[19:43] <Blutterbob> jmichaelx: Its puzzling to me too, I've been on ubuntu since 6... Never have had this happening
[19:43] <jmichaelx> ringlej: you might want to look into whether or not something has gone wrong with akonadi/file indexing
[19:44] <jmichaelx> Blutterbob: does your HDD seem to be in good shape?
[19:44] <Blutterbob> jmichaelx: ahhh, akonnadi and nepomuk.. Any idea how I can strangle those and make sure they dont ever come back to life? these two actually are known culprits (though not in this instance) that caused more then one migraine..
[19:45] <Blutterbob> jmichaelx: akonadi starts and any and all laptop will die
[19:45] <ringlej> Blutterbob: du -sh /tmp/* doesn't show anything bigger than 60K
[19:46] <Blutterbob> ringlej: Next time that this happens, try du-sh /*, when you find the  biggest dir, do du -sh /biggestdir/*, etc, until you find where this comes from
[19:46] <jmichaelx> Blutterbob: that's pretty much been my experience as well...   you can try disabling things (at least file indexing) by right-clicking on the icon is the system tray and checking/unchecking the appropriate boxes
[19:47] <jmichaelx> Blutterbob: it really does not easily let you disable akonadi altogether (unfortunately)... if you try , you will get notifications all the time warning you that akonadi is not running
[19:47] <Blutterbob> jmichaelx: Done so, but every now and then, they get themselves checked again.. updates maybe? I dunno.. I've tried to forcibly remove them, but I cant uninstall the packages without uninstalling entire KDE.. This is a MAJOR problem for me, really.. Whenever it starts, I can not even restart my laptop, I have to press OFF for 4 secs to cut it off.. I HATE akonadi and Nepomuk, they must go..
[19:48] <Blutterbob> jmichaelx: yeah, my experience exactly.. But not the problem now, because whenever I have this, first thing I check is akonadi, and its not guilty this time, wonxder o wonder..
[19:48] <jmichaelx> Blutterbob: i am with you.... so far i have not felt any great need for a "semantic desktop"
[19:49] <Blutterbob> So what could it be now?
[19:49] <shanttu> ok my netbook does not get recognised as netbook? loads default desktop
[19:50] <shanttu> tried on multiple users
[19:50] <jmichaelx> Blutterbob: if you cannot trace this to a particular process going crazy, it makes me wonder about things like SATA drivers, or possibly a defective HDD
[19:51] <jmichaelx> Blutterbob: have you tried possibly booting into older kernels, and seeing whether or not the process persists
[19:51] <jmichaelx> ?
[19:51] <Blutterbob> jmichaelx: I've experienced this a few times with 11.04, but 11.11 made it happen every few days..
[19:51] <Wizard> at least!
[19:51] <Wizard> kmail got my mail!
[19:51] <Wizard> \o/
[19:51] <Blutterbob> jmichaelx: Nope, might give that a try
[19:51] <jmichaelx> s/process/problem/
[19:51] <Wizard> all hail Megatron!
[19:52] <Blutterbob> eh..
[19:52] <Blutterbob> *kneels*
[19:53] <Wizard> too bad it got only recent mail - no history
[19:53] <Wizard> that'll be a looong night
[19:55] <jmichaelx> who is this Almighty Megatron... i have a lot of network/system admin problems for him to fix.....
[19:57] <Blutterbob> Let him start with my laptop please..
[19:58] <Wizard> jmichaelx: he was the leader of Decepticons in Transformers comics ;)
[19:58] <jmichaelx> Blutterbob: alright, just as long as he has enough time left over to fix my problems....
[20:02] <Wizard> jmichaelx: what is your problem?
[20:03]  * jmichaelx doesn't even know where to begin
[20:03] <ringlej> Blutterbob: If I add up the sizes of all the directories shown by 'du -shx' it's about ~80G, but 'df -lah' shows that 312G is used: -> http://pastebin.com/eJPqr3uK
[20:04] <Wizard> ringlej: alot of small files?
[20:06] <ringlej> Wizard: what the heck could possibly be writting files like that, and where to find them to prove your theory?
[20:07] <khaos> hi guys
[20:07] <khaos> do you know how to fix plymouth? i m using nouveau drivers
[20:08] <Wizard> ringlej: where did you run du with -x?
[20:10] <Wizard> how can I tell kmail 2 to get *all* imap headers from server, not last 14? :/
[20:11] <ringlej> Wizard: from I directory that is under /
[20:12] <Wizard> do you have other filesystems than /?
[20:12] <Wizard> like /home or /usr or /var?
[20:13] <ringlej> no. The pastebin shows.
[20:13] <timothycnx> Hi, I'm having doubts about the right approach: when using tunnelier to connect to ubuntu server, I do this with a regular user name. but then I can't delete files in the web directory. I prefer not to change file permissions because of possible effects on the website(vtiger crm). But then again using root for ssl connections would be even worse...
[20:14] <timothycnx> whats the best approach in this case?
[20:17] <ringlej> Wizard: to be sure I ran the 'du -shx' from / and got the same result
[20:22] <timothycnx> Hey guys, anyone here who can help me with a very small principal question?
[20:24] <ringlej> Wizard: to be sure I ran the 'du -shx' from / and got the same result
[20:52]  * genii-around smacks the bots a bit
[21:05] <bobweaver> has anyone got simon to install on 11.10 kubuntu ? if so where to get libqt4-multimedia & khelpcenter here is a paste of what I am dealing with http://paste.ubuntu.com/724684/
[21:09] <bobweaver> seems to me that qt is all messed up in 11.10 any links to fix ?
[21:10] <genii-around> !info simon
[21:10] <genii-around> Hm
[21:11] <bobweaver> !info khelpcenter
[21:11] <bobweaver> ! libqt4-multimedia
[21:11] <bobweaver> !info  libqt4-multimedia
[21:12] <bobweaver> this is not first qt "fall out " that i have had with 11.10
[21:14] <genii-around> bobweaver: Where did you get "simon_0.3.0-1ubuntu3_amd64.deb" from?
[21:15] <bobweaver> source forge
[21:15] <bobweaver> I tried compile and also deb package
[21:19] <genii-around> bobweaver: From the thread titles at http://sourceforge.net/projects/speech2text/forums/forum/672427 looks like quite a few people are having similar issues
[21:19] <bobweaver> yes
[21:19] <bobweaver> that is not all that has been going on with qt front end stuff it is a nightmare
[21:20] <bobweaver> genii-around: thanks for helping me :>)
[21:26] <genii-around> bobweaver: Since it's not an official package of some sort, it will probably be difficult to track down where the issue is. Looks like there has not been an update to this program in about a year.
[21:27] <genii-around> ( conceivably it could be using 10.04/KDE3 stuff )
[21:27] <bobweaver> yes I seen that sux for people like me with dyslexia
[21:31] <bobweaver> wonder if dragon will run in wine
[21:31] <rvb> hello, is there a program in linux where in i can download a particular website for later use?
[21:32] <bobweaver> rvb:  wget ?
[21:32] <TheEvilPhoenix> rvb:  i think you should be careful with that...
[21:32] <TheEvilPhoenix> rvb:  wget won't download an entire site for later use
[21:32] <rvb> bobweaver: no quite..
[21:32] <genii-around> !info julius
[21:32] <TheEvilPhoenix> if you mean offline stuff or not
[21:33] <TheEvilPhoenix> rvb:  also, some sites block such systems
[21:33] <rvb> TheEvilPhoenisx : why?
[21:33] <TheEvilPhoenix> to which?
[21:33] <TheEvilPhoenix> :P
[21:33] <rvb> TheEvilPhoenix: is it illegal to download a website for offline use?
[21:33] <TheEvilPhoenix> rvb:  it depends on the site
[21:33] <TheEvilPhoenix> rvb:  some sites actually have it written in the web server to deny certain requests
[21:33] <rvb> I used a tool in window before but i forgot the name of the program. im sure there's something like it on linux
[21:33] <TheEvilPhoenix> such as wget download requests
[21:34] <rvb> TheEvilPhoenix : i see
[21:34] <bobweaver> genii-around: sweet
[21:35] <genii-around> bobweaver: I haven't used it but there may be some tutorial to be found... also it is already of course packaged natively
[21:37] <MMlosh>  KDM does not unlock gnome-keyring anymore in oneiric :(      Everything else is fine  (well.. the white clock applet is useless)
[21:50] <lucasa-arg> hello, is there any way to install kde desktop from ubuntu repos without using kubuntu-desktop? Ive found kde-standard but that metapackage doesnt install all plasma widgets...
[22:15] <smiffel> Hi, my evolution looks bad in kubuntu 11.10, only default gtk-widget. Other gtk-apps look fine like this XChat
[22:17] <smiffel> gedit also has this bad look, gqview looks fine O_o
[22:26] <Jasmin_> hello
[22:26] <nicola_> can anyone help me ? Whenever i use rekonq to download it crashes
[22:27] <darthanubis> Jasmin_: hello
[22:27] <darthanubis> nicola_: I use a browser that works
[22:28] <natman> I am having a muon problem, it never informs me there are updates out there - can anyone help?
[22:28] <Jasmin_> darthanubis, hi
[22:28] <darthanubis> natman: never let me know either, so I use a package manager that works
[22:29] <natman> darthanubis: i have been using  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, but Muon should work, given that its a fresh install
[22:30] <darthanubis> go into muon settings and make it so
[22:30] <darthanubis> I just realized my setting were not set to check and notify
[22:31] <natman> i have tried all the settings, and re-installed the muon notifer, makes no difference
[22:31] <darthanubis> which muon app did you run exactly
[22:31] <darthanubis> the package manager or the software manager?
[22:32] <darthanubis> er sotware center
[22:32] <natman> amm i think its the package manager, i just typed muon into terminal
[22:32] <natman> ya says Package Manager on the title bar
[22:34] <darthanubis> natman: and notifications says ?
[22:34] <darthanubis> sorry to be redundant
[22:36] <natman> darthanubis:  ya so Muon Package manager -> settings -> configure -> notifications : Availiable updates, distribution upgrades and Use both popups and tray icons are all ticked
[22:37] <darthanubis> natman: I'm stumped. The next thing I'd do is a google search to see if others are experiencing that or if a bug report has already been filed?
[22:38] <darthanubis> google not sowing anything useful
[22:38] <darthanubis> showing
[22:38] <natman> darthanubis:  thanks, already posted on Kubuntu forums, one other guy says he has the problem
[22:39] <darthanubis> well thats good I guess:)
[22:39] <natman> ya see nothing similar on google, 11.10 still a bit new i guess
[22:39] <darthanubis> I like to know I'm not the only one when I have an issue
[22:39] <natman> dont we all!
[22:40] <darthanubis> I just updated from terminal myself when I got home. I never give the software a chance to warn me
[22:40] <natman> i do so miss that little green gear icon!
[22:41] <darthanubis> So,...wait, I think I turned it off for muon because I have other package managers installed, I was was getting duplicate notifications
[22:42] <natman> ya, just after seeing another option under configure software sources, for updates, i was left unchecked but i think it was checked before and still was not working
[22:43] <natman> currently im up to date, is there anyway to test to see if the icon works, by adding some repo thats safe
[22:44] <darthanubis> I have update-manager-kde installed
[22:44] <darthanubis> I think that gives the green gear
[22:44] <natman> KpackageKit gave the green gear, i think muon will give a little deb box icon
[22:45] <darthanubis> aslo muon-updater  and muon-notifier
[22:45] <darthanubis> I have all three installed
[22:50] <natman> darthanubis: ya its weird, always seems to be at least one thing not working in my kubuntu
[22:51] <darthanubis> especially with a clean install it is weird
[22:52] <natman> yup
[22:52] <darthanubis> update-manager-kde<< have you tried that?
[22:53] <natman> is that a different package manager?
[22:53] <darthanubis> its not a manager, just the update notifier with the green gear
[22:54] <natman> ok, if i install that , can i ever go back to the muon one? ie the default one
[22:55] <darthanubis> they should work at the same time
[22:55] <darthanubis> you are not uninstalling the muon one
[22:56] <darthanubis> your muon just is not working atm. they don't conflict
[22:57] <natman> ok
[22:57] <natman> sudo apt-get install update-manager-kde
[22:57] <natman> Reading package lists... Done
[22:57] <natman> Building dependency tree
[22:57] <natman> Reading state information... Done
[22:57] <natman> update-manager-kde is already the newest version.
[22:57] <natman> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[22:57] <natman>   linuxdoc-tools sp
[22:57] <natman> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[22:57] <natman> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:58] <genii-around> !pastebin | natman
[22:58] <natman> opps sorry :)
[22:58] <darthanubis> natman: looks like you are all set or should be
[22:59] <natman> ummmm this seems odd so
[23:07] <natman> darthanubis:  I just ran update via terminal and got the following " The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: linuxdoc-tools sp" would that be effecting anything?
[23:26] <ShadowsFellow> Hello folks.
[23:27] <ShadowsFellow> Anything ever going on in here?
[23:53] <markit> hi, I've run a livecd with 11.10, upated sources apt-get update and looked for kubuntu-low-fat-settings package, but there is none. Any tip? Will it be present if I install on HD?
[23:53] <markit> I need to install in a laptop with 640MB ram
[23:53] <markit> (btw, how to disable nepomuk and not having all the annoying messages about it not be working???)
[23:56] <jmichaelx> markit: as to your first question, i *think* a better way would be to maybe do a server install (or any other kind of install without a GUI) and then install the lowfat package
[23:56] <markit> jmichaelx: the problem is that "aptitude search low-fat" gives NO result
[23:57] <markit> (or aptitude search kubuntu-low-fat-settings if you prefer)
[23:57] <markit> so wondering if it really exists
[23:57] <jmichaelx> markit: i am not sure, but if you would type out the whole package name, i believe you would see it
[23:57] <Pici> !info kubuntu-low-fat-settings
[23:58] <Pici> markit: make sure that universe is enabled
[23:58] <markit> oh, I see... would love to see what settings it does (I mean, the source code)
[23:59] <jmichaelx> markit: i would also be interested in knowing whether or not it leaves out all of the akonadi/nepomuk gargage
[23:59] <jmichaelx> garbage*
[23:59] <markit> yep, I've installed akonadi sqlite3 backend and removed the 500MB mysql stuff from all the homes