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ochosihi everyone, when i try to dput my source.changes to my ppa, i get Unable to import paramiko (required for sftp support): No module named paramiko01:29
ochosidoes that mean that sftp doesn't work anymore in general with launchpad?01:29
ochosior am i missing something?01:29
TheEvilPhoenixthat seems to be on your end01:31
TheEvilPhoenixnot sure what causes that though01:31
* TheEvilPhoenix uses sftp to upload to ppas still01:31
ochosistrange. i used exactly the same setup in natty and it worked fine01:31
ochosihere's my dput.cf: http://pastebin.com/Y0hLPAm901:32
ochosiTheEvilPhoenix: would you mind comparing that ^ to your dput.cf?01:33
TheEvilPhoenixactually i would mind01:33
TheEvilPhoenixbecause this system i'm on is Windows01:33
ochosioh, i see :)01:33
* TheEvilPhoenix doesnt have his dput.cf in front of him01:33
wgrantochosi: Sounds like python-paramiko isn't installed.01:33
TheEvilPhoenixthe onyl reason i'm here is because of my ZNC :P01:33
TheEvilPhoenixbut listen to wgrant01:33
TheEvilPhoenixhe knows his things  ;P01:33
ochosiwgrant: ah, is that a new dependency for dput to work with sftp?01:34
ochosinow it works, thanks a bunch!01:34
wgrantochosi: No, it's been the case since sftp was introduced in dput.01:36
ochosiwgrant: i see, guess i missed it when doing my clean install of oneiric01:36
ochosianyway, thanks again and sorry to bother you with trivial stuff like this01:39
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odin_is there allowed/disallowed branching names ?  ~user/<what1>/<what2>/<project>/<branch> ?04:07
odin_I can't seem to make arbitrary names  like ~user/<project>/<branch>/<branch1>/<branch2>04:08
wgrantodin_: ~USER/+junk/BRANCH, ~USER/PROJECT/BRANCH or ~USER/DISTRIBUTION/DISTROSERIES/SOURCEPACKAGE/BRANCH04:09
odin_what is the relation between PROJECT and SOURCEPACKAGE ?04:09
wgrantThe last is for branches for a distribution.04:10
odin_~user/ubuntu/natty/<project>/<branch>  is fine to use, but how does <project> relate to <SOURCEPACKAGE>04:10
odin_the debian/control  Source: line ?04:11
wgrantNo, <project> is wrong. It's a source package name there, not a project name.04:11
wgrantRight.04:11
odin_so I have a dailydeb that works (i.e. I can build a source package on launchpad), how is the SOURCEPACKAGE resolved to my one ?04:12
odin_and how do I make a generic   DISTRIBUTION/DISTROSERIES   ubuntu/*/<project>/<branch>04:14
wgrantNo relationship is enforced. Normally it will match the Source field in debian/control, however.04:14
odin_is there a defacto default name for the branch which contains only debian/** files ?04:17
odin_"packaging" or "debian" ?04:17
odin_I use recipe, that pulls in launchpad git=>bzr mirror of main project tree04:17
odin_then I "nest debian lp:~owner/project/branch debian" to overlay debian/** tree04:18
odin_the bzr branch at lp:~owner/project/branch is not the main tree, just the debian/** files04:19
odin_so do I call this: lp:~owner/project/packaging  or lp:~owner/project/debian  or lp:~owner/project  (is this possible?)  or lp:~owner/project/?????04:20
wgrantpackaging and debian are both fairly common.04:20
CrypticfortuneHi, I'm trying to upload a package into a PPA (first time), and it came back with "Unable to find distroseries: unstable" what does does this mean and how do I specify something other than "unstable?" (the only place I know of that I specified "unstable" is in debian/changelog)06:53
CrypticfortuneOh, this may be relevant, if complicating... https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/16963006:55
CrypticfortuneOh, it actually it seems to pull the distro out of the changelog...that's weird... the debian/changelog out of 'apt-get source samtools' uses "unstable" in the distro field and gets away with it...06:58
CrypticfortuneI guess because they don't use launchpad =P06:58
wgrantCrypticfortune: Packages like that are copied straight from Debian. They don't go through the normal upload process, so the series in the changelog doesn't matter.06:59
Crypticfortunewgrant: Ya, I originally made my package for debian, but it works in Ubuntu unmodified so I was trying to make it available in a convenient way for Ubuntu users...07:00
CrypticfortuneAny recommendations for a better way to do that (short of a search and replace before uploading to Launchpad)?07:01
wgrantCrypticfortune: "works in Ubuntu unmodified" <- the source or binaries?07:02
Crypticfortunewgrant: I meant source07:04
wgrantCrypticfortune: Can you reuse the binaries between versions? eg. build on lucid, reuse the binaries on maverick/natty/oneiric/precise?07:05
Crypticfortunewgrant: not sure, but that seems unlikely, because it depends on boost libraries (which include the version number in the name, like libboost_iostreams.so.1.42.0)07:07
wgrantCrypticfortune: Ah.07:07
wgrantSo, in that case you'll need to upload a separate version for each Ubuntu release that you want to support.07:07
wgrantThe convention is to append something like ~lucid1 to the version.;07:07
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CrypticfortuneHmm... well, I don't see much of a need to support multiple Ubuntu releases... maybe I'll just automate retagging changelog for Ubuntu releases...07:11
RunePhilosofI'm trying to run the rocketfuel-setup script and I get this error:11:33
RunePhilosofMaking local branch of Launchpad trunk, this may take a while...11:33
RunePhilosofPermission denied (publickey).11:33
RunePhilosofbzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist.11:33
RunePhilosofERROR: Unable to create local copy of Rocketfuel trunk11:33
jelmerRunePhilosof: are you logged into launchpad on your local system?11:40
RunePhilosofno11:40
jelmerRunePhilosof: I think rocketfuel-setup assumes you are11:41
jelmerRunePhilosof: IIRC it also prompts for your launchpad username11:41
RunePhilosofthe Launchpad.net login is not ## strictly necessary, and you can just hit Return there if you ## want; see below for an explanation.11:41
RunePhilosofMaybe that text should be clarified then11:41
RunePhilosofhttps://dev.launchpad.net/Getting11:42
jelmeryeah, that seems wrong.. as by default I think it uses $LOGNAME rather than not logging in at all11:42
RunePhilosofI loaded a ssh agent with my cert and now it runs properly11:45
lifelessit doesn't assume you are logged in11:47
lifelessbut it assumes if you are, that your ssh setup is correct11:47
lifelessI thin thats a rasonable assumpton :)11:47
wgrantNo.11:48
wgrantprintf "What is your Launchpad username? [$whoami] "11:48
wgrantread lpusername11:48
wgrantif [ -z ${lpusername} ]; then lpusername=${whoami}11:48
wgrantfi11:48
wgrantbzr launchpad-login $lpusername11:48
lifelessgarh11:49
wgrantYes.11:49
lifelessokies diaf11:49
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danhgHey everyone at UDS, I'm Dan, the new Usability & Communications Specialist at Launchpad. I'm going to be doing lots of usability testing today, so please ping me if you're around, and would like to get involved!15:23
danhgAll week actually - so let me know when you're free guys!15:27
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czajkowskimrevell: danhg let me know when you want to get some feedback16:21
czajkowski:D16:21
matsubaraczajkowski, mrevell's computer is locked up and can't reply to you16:26
czajkowskiprobably running some dodgey OS :)16:27
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buzz_are i386 builders due back for ppa building soonish or ?17:23
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Ursinhaquick question: if I'm a member of a team and subscribe the team to a bug, any other members of the same team can unsubscribe it or only me?18:13
tumbleweedthey can18:14
DavieyUrsinha: are you talking about a speicifc bug subscription, or a package subscription?18:15
UrsinhaDaviey: specific bug subscription18:15
Davieyah, ok18:16
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odin_Syncing the system clock with the buildd NTP service....  4 Nov 15:01:52 ntpdate[3408]: step time server 10.211.37.1 offset -334888.07611 sec ?18:31
odin_what is the weather like there ?  on the 4th18:31
odin_maybe run /usr/sbin/ntpdc  "peers" and "sysinfo" on the buildd NTP service system at 10.211.37.1 ?18:34
odin_can I configure a requirement for at least XYZ ram and XYZ total virtual memory, to build my package  (512Mb / 1536Mb) ?18:43
odin_any idea what those params are for "lakoocha.ppa - Intel 386 (virtual)"  and "hassium.ppa - Intel 386 (virtual)" might be ?18:44
shnatselhi everyone18:49
shnatselI have a problem with recipes18:49
shnatsellooks like one of the builds has hung up18:49
shnatselhttps://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-os/+recipe/beat-box-daily18:49
shnatselthere's no progress in days, while other recipes build fine18:50
shnatseland I can't cancel it or request a new build18:50
shnatselwhat shall I do?18:50
odin_maybe I make a pseudo-package which has pre/init scripts, that checks ram and virtual memory and reports and aborts18:52
odin_shnatsel, your control file?  has a blank line at an odd place ?18:53
odin_shnatsel, line 13 should be between line 15 and 16 ?18:53
odin_shnatsel, line 13 isn't actually blank, so it all looks like one block18:54
shnatselodin_: looks like libgtk-3-dev has the line break at the wrong place18:55
odin_shnatsel, yeah I would not do that either, you can put 1 per line like " libfoo-dev (>= 1.0),"  with a leading space, but no blank line at the end before Standards-Version18:56
shnatselodin_: OK, thanks, I'll fix this. Any suggestions about canceling the build or requesting a new one after I fix the packaging?18:57
odin_shnatsel, then a blank line before "Package: beatbox", since that is the binary package right ?  and separate, I am not 100% if you must have this blank line, but it seems right to me18:57
odin_shnatsel, apparently you can not cancel builds18:57
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gesershnatsel: to cancel a hung build you need an LP admin. perhaps the current help contact (benji) can help to get in contact with an LP admin.19:02
lifelessif its a recipe build, it may be in swap death - will recover.19:03
lifelessunless its on the binary package build already19:03
shnatselit's been there since the 26th19:04
czajkowskialoha19:04
shnatselso... I doubt it somehow.19:04
lifelessshnatsel: thats in needs-build, not actually building19:05
lifelessshnatsel: I will confer with a developer that knows the innards of this part of the system; we have some buildd-manager bugs that create inconsistent state19:05
lifelessthis may be an example of that19:05
lifelessStevenK: wgrant: ^19:05
lifelesshttps://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-os/+archive/daily/+recipebuild/10705619:06
shnatselOh, looks like I have one more mysterious thing for you to look into19:14
shnatselhttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/84139675/buildlog.txt.gz19:14
shnatselBuilding recipe:19:14
shnatsel# bzr-builder format 0.3 deb-version {debupstream}-0~{revno}19:14
shnatsellp:egtk19:14
shnatselmerge packaging lp:~elementary-os/egtk/deb-packaging19:14
shnatselbzr: ERROR: unknown command "dailydeb"19:14
shnatselfailed just now.19:15
afrankeHi. Can an admin of a moderated team change the status of an approved member to admin?19:17
madnickhehe, topic solved my question :)19:19
shnatselafranke: yes. Click "all members" on the team page. You'll get a list of people in the team, with "edit" icon next to each of them. Click it and there will be the permissions setting.19:22
afrankeshnatsel, that's the page where you change subscription date, right?19:23
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shnatselafranke: expiry date you mean?19:24
afrankeYes, sorry, that's what I meant.19:24
shnatselafranke: yes19:24
afrankeOk… well I can't change the admin status.19:24
shnatselafranke: there's an "Admin: (*) yes ( ) no" switcher19:25
afrankeI have "Administrator:No"19:25
afrankeBut that's just text.19:25
shnatselafranke: hmm... no idea, I have it working for me. I'm not the team owner, just an admin, and I can change status of other people.19:26
lifelessafranke: what team, and whats your lp username ?19:28
afrankeI'm the only admin of ubuntu-l10n-fr and my membership expires in 4 hours. I can't change it and the owner (seb128) is usually inactive (and even more now that he's at UDS). I contacted him one week ago to change my expiration date, but no news.19:28
afrankeI'm afranke (Alexandre Franke).19:29
lifelessafranke: which user were you trying to promote to admin?19:29
afrankeparoz19:30
afrankeClaude Paroz19:30
lifelessshnatsel: I think you are the team owner19:31
shnatsellifeless: no, I am not.19:31
lifelessafranke: please open a ticket on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad19:31
lifelessshnatsel: which team ?19:31
shnatsellifeless: I used to be one for 2 hours19:31
shnatsellifeless: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-os19:31
lifelessshnatsel: this could be a fun bug :)19:31
shnatsellifeless: It's raining cats and bugs XD19:32
afrankelifeless, what should I open the ticket for? Not being able to promote, idle owner and my membership expiring, both, something else?19:32
lifelessshnatsel: and when you click on the edit link beside (say) cody, it will let you toggle the admin flag ?19:33
lifelessafranke: your membership I'd suggest19:33
afrankelifeless, ok.19:33
lifelessafranke: and admin can probably extend it without any issue, for a couple months19:33
shnatsellifeless: yes19:33
lifelessshnatsel: weird19:33
shnatsellifeless: never tried, but the switcher is active.19:33
lifelessshnatsel: that means the form thinks you can,19:34
afrankelifeless, how does ownership transfer work? Does the owner do it himself or does he ask someone else to do it?19:34
lifelessafranke: vastly prefer them to do it themselves19:34
lifelessafranke: which they can do19:34
afrankeOk.19:34
lifelessafranke: if they are nonresponsive and the person to whom the transfer should go is in good standing and there is some evidence that its appropriate, then we can do it, but thats the exception.19:35
afrankelifeless, I guess seb128 is still active enough to handle that.19:36
shnatselafranke: the funny thing is that after I made an admin a commoner, I can't toggle it back.19:36
lifelessshnatsel: heh you tested on prod data did you?19:36
shnatsellifeless: exactly.19:36
shnatsellifeless: totally forgot about staging.19:37
lifeless:)19:37
sinzuilifeless, shnatsel I do not follow the conversation: I see ~seb128 is the owner of  ubuntu-l10n-fr andonlu he can appoint admins19:37
shnatsellifeless: the funny thing is I'm developing a staging environment for desktop apps XD19:37
lifelesssinzui: shnatsel, admin not owner of another team, can promote other members to admin.19:37
sinzuiadmins cannot promote.19:38
lifelesssinzui: afranke, admin not owner of u-*fr cannot promote other members to admin.19:38
shnatselyeah they can only defrock19:38
lifelessshnatsel: *oh* - you were looking at an admin were you ?19:38
lifelesssinzui: now I get it; admins can unadmin other admins, but not the reverse ?19:39
sinzuiright19:39
lifelessshnatsel: I thought you were looking at a member19:39
sinzuiand they cannot extend th membership either19:39
lifelesssinzui: sorry for the distraction then!19:39
lifelesssinzui: perhaps they should be able to do some of this ?19:39
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lifelesssinzui: I'm thinking owner-is-not-in-team scenarios19:40
sinzuibug 206058 and bug 474419:40
ubot5Launchpad bug 206058 in Launchpad itself "Team Administrators cannot change their membership expiration date" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20605819:40
ubot5Launchpad bug 4744 in Launchpad itself "Team admins aren't encouraged to promote other members." [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/474419:40
sinzuiand bug 10218019:40
ubot5Launchpad bug 102180 in Launchpad itself "administration of who is a team administrator is inconsistent and lacking documentation" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/10218019:40
afrankequestion 17702119:41
lifelesssinzui: legend19:41
lifelesssinzui: ah, admins are only prohibited from changing their *own* date ?19:41
afrankeubot5, I wonder what keyword triggers "answers" links… :)19:41
ubot5afranke: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:41
afrankeanswer 17702119:43
afrankeAnyway… https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/17702119:43
lifelessif benji is still around, he'll look at it I'm sure, otherwise someone else will fairly soon19:43
sinzuilifeless, yes I think that is the case, but we have a few other bugs where users are blocked renewing and I suspect there are cases where the admin is blocked19:43
afrankeThank you all for your help.19:44
benjiyep, I'm just off a phone call and about to do a CHR run19:47
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afrankeI have to go, see you!19:50
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Pendulumdanhg: hey, I'm at UDS and would be more than happy to do some testing for you (I'm the woman in the wheelchair so pretty easy to spot ;) )19:52
odin_Syncing the system clock with the buildd NTP service....  4 Nov 15:01:52 ntpdate[3408]: step time server 10.211.37.1 offset -334888.07611 sec ?  maybe run /usr/sbin/ntpdc  "peers" and "sysinfo" on the buildd NTP service system at 10.211.37.1 ?19:53
odin_can I use pbuilder to build but then not cleanup, so I can --login and try commands myself ?20:03
odin_try --debug20:05
gesere.g. when a build failed to examine why it failed?20:14
odin_bzr: ERROR: unknown command "dailydeb", is this correct thing to see from a build worker ?20:15
gesersorry I've no experience with the recipe builds20:16
tumbleweedthat sounds likea a problem with the daily build chroots, (assiming you are pasting that from a launchpad build log, not something local)20:17
odin_yup but its lucid, maybe it did not come with bzr-builder by default ?20:17
lifelesshats the build url20:18
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odin_84143266 (sorry different machine no c'n'p)20:19
tumbleweedno ubuntu release comes with bzr-builder by default20:19
odin_so I add to Build-Depends20:19
lifelessodin_: well, I suspect you've got something odd going on20:20
odin_can I run pbuilder locally (on oneiric, but not have it delete anything on failure)20:20
lifelessodin_: your build rules shouldn't be calling bzr dailydeb or anything like that20:20
odin_I think it picks it up from the recipe  "# bzr-builder ...."20:20
lifelessrecipe builds are special, they run in an environment with bzr and bzr builder installed.20:21
lifelessyour build deps won't affect recipe builds at all.20:21
odin_well I have one battle that some peoples VMs are too small, and initializing Java JDK errors, would be nice to configure minimum ram/virtual size hints into debian/control and/or blacklist some workers by name20:23
lifelessthe intel VM's all have 2G, if you can't build in that I think its your software needs the fix :)20:24
odin_I have seen VMs with 512Mb RAM20:24
odin_unfortunately it is not my software/package that needs fixing, the install for a build dependency needs fixing and that is beyond my control20:25
odin_I'm not going to fork and maintain it just for that20:25
odin_the packages I have seen fail (due to lack of Java heap, is openjdk-6-jre-headless and ca-certificates-java both run the JVM, I guess without using -Xmx256 to place a heap restriction on it), but I don't know the real cause and I don't maintain those packages20:27
odin_the option -Xmx256M would restrict the max heap to 256Mb and would probably fix the problem if the pre/post/install/configure scripts were fixed20:28
jelmerlamont: ping20:29
lamontmorning20:29
jelmerhi20:29
jelmerit seems like some builders now no longer have the dailydeb command (from bzr-builder) available20:30
lamontand how are you today?20:30
lamontjelmer: sorted.  see also bug 61687820:30
ubot5Launchpad bug 616878 in Bazaar "bzr commit error because of no identity (should look at /etc/mailname)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61687820:30
jelmerlamont: did you see my last comment on that bug?20:30
jelmerlamont: great, so the bzr-builder issue should now be fixed? was that just recently?20:31
lamontjelmer: read it now, and I suspect that the answer is "not yet" - the commit is occurring at the tail end of the late_command in debian-installer, before the reboot20:32
lamontthe current user is root20:32
lamontif we really think it's limited to the d-i world, that'd be cool20:32
jelmerlamont: I don't think there is a regression of bug 616878, but this a situation we just didn't try to cover in our fix20:33
ubot5Launchpad bug 616878 in Bazaar "bzr commit error because of no identity (should look at /etc/mailname)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61687820:34
lamontjelmer: /etc/mailname was not present on the machine at the time of the commit20:34
lamont cat /etc/mailname20:34
lamontcat: /etc/mailname: No such file or directory20:34
lamontyep.  definitely wasn't there at install time... it still isn't20:34
jelmerok20:35
lamontand yeah, new case20:36
lamontsorry for not getting that one in initially20:36
lamontthe ticket has a bit of my grumbling, fwiw20:36
odin_how do I stop pbuilder from deleting /var/cache/pbuilder/build/** on error ?20:42
jelmerlamont: Thanks I'll try to put as much info as I can in a new bug report20:43
* jelmer spits out a comma20:44
jelmerodin_: #ubuntu-packaging is perhaps a better place for that sort of question20:45
shnatselI have more of those recipe errors20:45
shnatselhttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/84145718/buildlog.txt.gz20:45
jelmerlamont: ^20:47
jelmerlamont: I'm also still getting command not found errors20:47
jelmermost recently on dubnium20:47
lamontit would be good if you did a dpkg -l bzr-builder in there... maybe you already do20:48
jelmerlamont: I had the same though, I filed a bug against Launchpad about doing exactly that this morning.20:49
lamontii  bzr            2.4.0-0ubuntu2 easy to use distributed version control syst20:50
lamontii  bzr-builder    0.7.1-0ubuntu1 construct a bzr branch from a recipe20:50
lamont(dubnium)root@dubnium:~#20:50
lamontlooks current to me...20:50
shnatseljeblair: bug number?20:50
lamontmachine has been up for 2:3020:50
lamont150 minutes20:50
jelmerlamont: does 'bzr plugins' list 'builder' as one of the entries/20:51
jelmer?20:51
lamontnope20:52
lamonthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/724693/20:52
jelmerlamont: those version numbers suggest it's not running one of the backports - is it using post-lucid, or did the version numbers change after the upload to the cat archive?20:53
lamonthrmpf20:53
lamontii  bzr                                          2.4.0-0ubuntu2~11.IS.8.04                    easy to use distributed version control system20:54
lamontii  bzr-builder                                  0.7.1-0ubuntu1~6.IS.8.04                     construct a bzr branch from a recipe20:54
lamonthelps if dpkg -l doesn't make it fit20:54
lamontamusing place it chose to truncate the version at though20:54
jelmerah, heh20:55
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jelmeroh fuck. the hardy-cat bzr-builder package has a python namespace issue because it's using python-support rather than python-central20:59
jelmerso the plugin doesn't get picked up by bzr21:00
lamontjelmer: wonderful. :(21:01
lamontjelmer: I'll see if I can corner someone who might have a better answer than "sucks to be you".  meanwhile, wanna work on that python-central version?21:02
jelmerlamont: already on it21:02
lamontjelmer: the definitive answer is "use the same one as the distro does for namespace packages".  IOW, sucks to be you21:06
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jelmerlamont: thanks, that does indeed mean switching bzr-builder to -central21:12
jelmerlamont: I wonder how this ever worked in QA though, or was that perhaps with an old version of the packages as well?21:13
lamontquite possibly.  dunno21:14
odin_when does the dailydeb fix go live across the workers ?21:45
jelmerlamont: still there?21:54
lamontsure21:57
jelmerlamont: see privmsg22:10
jelmerlamont: to summarize - there is a package with pycentral in the PPA, would it be possible to deploy that soon?22:20
jelmerlamont: ping?23:07
wgrantlifeless: Ah, that's from the build farm vs. dogfood incident last week.23:15
wgrantlifeless: We fixed binary builds, but not recipes.23:15
lifelesswgrant: thanks23:18
lamontjelmer: ack23:26

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