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ZaragonWubi questions:  I just ain't getting it.  If I read correctly, Wubi (1) installs Ubuntu inside Windows (2) installs Grub 2.  Does Ubuntu then run inside Windows...Does Windows anti-virus still operate when running Ubuntu?  On Wubi uninstall does Grub get deleted?  Does Wubi install slow Win7 down enough to bother gaming?07:55
M0hiZaragon: Yes, Ubuntu runs inside windows like an application you install in your windows08:03
M0hiWubi install has no direct relationship with slowing down your machine. It depends on your machine capacity to load the Ubuntu OS08:04
Snicksienot anymore as far as I know M0hi :) it installes inside the windows-installation, but you can choose at boot-time what to boot08:04
M0hiI always prefer to install separately though08:04
Snicksienot anymore just a virtual machine... :)08:04
Snicksieit adds itself to the windows boot menu :)08:05
M0hiSnicksie: Ubuntu will boot. But still Ubuntu will be like an application which you can find listed in add/remove programs. (I am not sure. I've tried it before 2 years)08:05
Snicksie2 years ago, it was... :)08:06
M0hiOkay then. My bad ;)08:06
Snicksiei guess you can still remove it via the programs, it installs on the windows disk, but it boots completely seperately, NOT inside windows...08:07
Snicksiebut still a seperate installation is preferable ;)08:07
ZaragonI have tried Ubuntu several times before....Had trouble with Logitech drivers.....Also, Wubi page mentions Grub...08:07
ZaragonGrub installed in MBR...I didn't think Win7 has MBR08:09
M0hiWindows boot loader is there though. I think you can bring Win X back after removal08:09
M0hiI am not sure as I never tried removing my *Buntus =)08:10
ZaragonIt's better that way, M0hi....painful08:10
Zaragonand you can't sit down for about a week08:11
M0hiZaragon: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-system/how-do-you-remove-ubuntu-and-grub/42d3f550-bf5f-459d-94ed-4cbadd7c933c08:13
ZaragonI read that Wubi installs to a virtual disk...I thought one needed a running OS to have those...am I wrong?08:13
M0hiVirtual disk = some space in your C drive if you are using wubi. Snicksie any explanations? :P08:14
ZaragonThats why I was thinking Wubi, M0hi...to avoid that article08:14
M0hiBut why you have to remove Ubuntu from your machine?08:15
M0hioh! Logitech issues08:15
Zaragon20 years of rock cllimbing toasted the joints in my hands...now I use keyboard and mouse from Logitech....very programable.....makes typing doable08:17
M0hiI can understand08:21
ZaragonErgo, I want to see how far I can push Lolgitech with 3rd party progs available for linux...If I can't push it far enough, its useless on my machine...I would then want to get rid of it and still be able to sit down08:24
Zaragonto distill my questions......BIOS sees and mounts some drives...does it do that for virtual disks?  and could that be done from the bootloader?08:38
M0hiI hope BIOS finds the boot loader which is present before the MBR08:39
M0his/hope/believe08:39
ZaragonI know just enough about computers to confuse the hell out of myself08:40
M0hihe he. Its good to know something =)08:41
Zaragonwell time for me to go to bed...it is getting close to 2 AM here...good night and a thank you for your assist08:43
M0hiGood night Zaragon =)08:43
SnicksieM0hi, the disk is space in the C-drive indeedd...08:44
M0hiSnicksie: I'm glad that you responded immediately after I asked that :P :P JK08:45
Snicksiesorry, busy :$08:45
M0hihe he. I was JK08:45
Snicksieim lookin' for a simple pdf-editor like my mac-pdf-editor... that one can mark inside my pdf ^^08:45
Snicksiei like that08:45
M0hiPDF Import Extension for Openoffice is there08:48
M0hihttp://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pdfimport08:48
Snicksiethats too many options ^^ i only want to mark my text with a colored marker like 'this part is done' :p08:50
M0hithis channel is color disabled I believe08:51
Snicksiei guess so too, but i need to mark my pdf-text ;p08:51
M0hiWrite your own extension then :P :P08:51
Snicksiewhen i got time -- sure08:52
Snicksiebut i dont have the time now :p08:52
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fosburgLooking for pdf printing application that can be installed as a printer.16:01
holsteinfosburg: with openoffice, ive always just used the export as pdf option16:06
holsteini see that libreoffice has that functionality as well16:07
holsteinlet me google for a pdf printer for ubuntu...16:07
coalwaterpdf printer?16:07
coalwatercan't u just print any pdf16:08
holsteincoalwater: like.. you have a document, or anything open, and you print to a virtual printer that makes a pdf out of it16:08
holsteinwhatever "it" is16:08
holsteinits not to print, its to render a pdf... correct fosburg ?16:08
holsteinand im assuming its not a document or something easy...16:08
coalwatero ok, now i get it16:08
coalwaterthat sounds useful16:09
holsteini have used the 'draw' portion of openoffice for that16:09
holsteinlibreoffice woul provide the same functionality16:09
holsteini found it to have more options for saving, resizing... whatever else16:09
holsteinlooks like its easy though16:09
holsteinhttp://www.tohir.co.za/2009/06/15/installing-a-pdf-printer-on-ubuntu/16:09
holsteinyeah, cups-pdf is in the repos for 11.10 fosburg16:10
holsteini would start there16:10
fosburgMost applications have the 'export to..." but I have seen changes in the look of a document bases on the application used16:12
fosburgcup-pdf--can you tell me more about this?16:15
holsteinfosburg: sure... its a pdf printer16:16
fosburghow do I install?  what is the procedure?16:17
holsteinyou can see a screenshot at http://www.tohir.co.za/2009/06/15/installing-a-pdf-printer-on-ubuntu/16:17
holsteinfosburg: i would go to whatever package manager you use typically and search 'cups-pdf'16:17
fosburgthank you16:17
holsteinthere are command line instructions at that link, but you can use the software center, or synaptic, or whatever you are used to using16:18
fosburgThanks, I used 'software center' and downloaded the cups-pdf--it worked like magic and is now one of my printers.   thanks again.16:35
holsteinfosburg: enjoy :)16:35
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mariongood evening and happy halloween22:14
mariondoes anyone know how i would auto mount a partition with read write permissions through fstab22:15
holsteinmarion: you chown it afterward22:15
bodhi_zazenmarion: I know someone who wrote the book http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?&t=28313122:16
bodhi_zazenubuntu forums style22:16
bodhi_zazendepends on the partition, chown chmod will not work on fat or vtfs22:17
bodhi_zazenand chown does not affect auto / noauto mount22:18
marionbhodi may i pm you22:18
bodhi_zazensure22:18

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