[01:04] <LaserJock> anybody know what happened to mozilla-mplyer in Oneric? I can't seem to find it
[01:17] <ajmitch> LaserJock: tried gecko-mediaplayer ?
[01:29] <LaserJock> ajmitch: no
[01:29] <LaserJock> I'm just trying to find a media player for Firefox
[01:29] <LaserJock> totem doesn't seem to want to play files
[01:29] <LaserJock> VLC crashes Firefox
[01:31] <ajmitch> gecko-mediaplayer is supposedly the replacement for mozilla-mplayer, according to its description
[01:32] <LaserJock> ok, I'll give that a try
[09:02] <Rhonda> huhm.
[09:03] <Rhonda> 197M hardy  284M lucid  281M maverick  340M natty  407M oneiric  411M precise
[09:03] <Rhonda> Either my cowbuilder chroots are strange, or there was a fair amount of expansion in the base packages?
[09:03] <lifeless> wow, yes
[09:05]  * Rhonda goes with --login --safe-after-login and tries to check what could get removed. :)
[09:06]  * Rhonda . o O ( --save-after-login works better )
[11:49] <dupondje> lets check what we can sync today :D
[12:30] <dupondje> Could somebody check if we still need http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=486899 ?
[12:49] <mok0> Hm, oneiric chat not working for me
[12:52] <azeem_> oh hi mok0
[12:53] <azeem_> long time no see
[12:53] <mok0> azeem_: yeah, not so active these days
[12:53] <azeem_> I finally uploaded qutemol to Debian, FYI
[12:53] <azeem_> I still have you as Uploader, but I can remove that if you prefer
[12:53] <mok0> azeem_: ah you did! Good for you!
[12:54] <mok0> azeem_: I am not a dm
[12:54] <azeem_> that's not necessary to be an Uploader
[12:54] <azeem_> in theory, you can prepare packages, and a DD sponsors
[12:54] <azeem_> (it's easier as DM, cause then you can upload directly)
[12:54] <azeem_> just saying
[12:55] <azeem_> also, I don't expect lots of activity on that packages :)
[12:55] <azeem_> package*
[12:55] <mok0> azeem_: I haven't looked at qutemol in quite a while... did you get a newer version?
[12:55] <azeem_> no, they stopped developing it
[12:56] <azeem_> maybe I updated to a couple later subversion revisions, don't remember
[12:56] <mok0> azeem_: ... but that's not prohibitive for uploading it`
[12:56] <mok0> ?
[12:56] <azeem_> yeah
[12:56] <azeem_> it's sorta complete :)
[12:56] <azeem_> if it works, it's pretty awesome - if your X driver isn't supported - tough luck
[12:57] <mok0> azeem_: those guys were computer scientists, not scientists :-)
[12:57] <mok0> azeem_: well, the application could use some work
[12:57] <azeem_> oh, I see there is an RC bug about the new -Werror=format-security
[12:58] <azeem_> and yeah, the UI isn't super
[12:58] <tumbleweed> dupondje: have you tried yourself? Youc na install pkgbinarymangler in your build environment (and you probably should, if you want to match the launchpad build environment)
[12:58] <mok0> azeem_: I have been talking to picca about Coot
[12:59] <azeem_> hui, that looks nice as well
[12:59] <mok0> azeem_: it might be good to get that into Debian as well
[13:00] <mok0> azeem_: but a number of dependencies need to go in first
[13:00] <azeem_> ok
[13:00] <azeem_> I'll add it to the Debichem todo when I get home
[13:01] <mok0> azeem, great
[13:07] <azeem_> mok0: I guess clipper, gpp4 and mmdb are crystollography packages as well, and should get maintained along coot
[13:08] <mok0> azeem_: indeed
[13:08] <mok0> I maintain all of them in Ubuntu
[13:09] <mok0> azeem_: but Coot is still in my PPA only
[13:09] <azeem_> ah, ok
[13:10] <azeem_> mok0: why didn't upload coot to Ubuntu then?
[13:11] <mok0> azeem_: There are a number of quirks in the package that need to be resolved...
[13:11] <azeem_> ok
[13:11] <cjwatson> dupondje: if it still builds a nested package, you still need that change
[13:11] <mok0> azeem_: and second, I wasn't sure if anybody else were interested
[13:12] <azeem_> is e.g. mmdb used by other packages as well?
[13:12] <mok0> azeem_: coot users seem to want to compile it themselves
[13:12] <mok0> azeem_: it's a dependency of gpp4
[13:12] <mok0> azeem_: ... and clipper
[13:12] <azeem_> ok, is any of those used by other packages?
[13:13] <mok0> azeem_: no
[13:13] <mok0> azeem_: I don't think so :-)
[13:13] <mok0> azeem_: although some users might use them to link their own programs
[13:13] <azeem_> yeah
[13:14] <mok0> azeem_: ... if you don't want to download and install the 1Gb CCP4 distribution :-)
[13:14] <azeem_> heh
[13:15] <mok0> azeem_: which incidentally has it's own very peculiar idea of where to place programs and libraries
[13:36] <dupondje> err stupid question, but how can I check it builds a nested package?
[13:38] <Rhonda> What do you mean with nexted package? And what's "it"?
[13:38] <Rhonda> nested*
[13:38] <Laney> ghc up
[13:38]  * Laney hands the rebuilds to iulian :-)
[13:39] <Rhonda> ah, context is in lastlog.
[13:42] <dupondje> Rhonda: cfr cdebootstrap :)
[13:43] <Laney> or it would be if I knew how to type "-sa"
[13:52] <Laney> *now* it is up
[13:56] <Laney> cjwatson: ^ incase you want to score ppc up
[14:22] <cjwatson> dupondje: grep for dpkg-deb I guess
[14:22] <cjwatson> or peruse the build log
[14:22] <cjwatson> Laney: done
[14:58] <Amaranth> ep
[14:58] <Amaranth> err
[15:34] <Laney> ta
[18:01] <jtaylor> hyperair: please duplicate into the bug with the most info ._.
[18:03] <jtaylor> I wonder if something will be done about the broken gtk2 filechoser
[18:03] <jtaylor> its really annoying and not so easy to run of .7 from debian due to multiarch
[18:04] <jtaylor> ups wrong channel for that
[18:07] <zooko> Hello folks! If there is anyone here who loves Tahoe-LAFS and Ubuntu, you might want to update this wiki page to reflect the new arrival of Oneiric: https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/wiki/OSPackages
[18:07] <Laney> why us?
[18:08] <zooko> Laney: if you do not love Tahoe-LAFS and Ubuntu, then I didn't mean you. ;-)
[18:09] <Laney> :P
[18:21] <jtaylor> gna does the login for uds work for anyone?
[18:22] <jtaylor> I only get an unencrypted login, and I'm not going to use that, the regular one does not stick
[18:25] <tumbleweed> jtaylor: login to what?
[18:36] <jtaylor> meeting details
[18:37] <tumbleweed> you mean etherpad?
[18:38] <jtaylor> yes
[18:39] <tumbleweed> it's an https iframe inside an http page
[18:40] <tumbleweed> hit the "open pad in a separate window" link to break out the iframe
[18:42] <jtaylor> can't find that link
[18:42] <jtaylor> but I copied it from the source
[18:42] <jtaylor> still won't let me login ._.
[18:42] <jtaylor> though I'm logged in in the outer frame ..
[18:42] <tumbleweed> yeah, that's different, that's summit, this is pad
[18:43] <broder> you have to login separately because it's asking for permission to access some of your group memberships
[18:43] <tumbleweed> have a link: http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-p-plenary-dpl
[18:43] <tumbleweed> (not that you should edit that)
[18:44] <jtaylor> "Your page was stale."
[18:45] <tumbleweed> worksforme :/
[18:45] <jtaylor> ok now it worked in firefox, it didn't before
[18:45] <jtaylor> opera still gives me trouble :/
[18:45] <tumbleweed> non-free browsers, tsk tsk :)
[18:46] <jtaylor> I#d use a free one if they wouldn't suck so much ._.