[01:46] <ejat> selamat malam ... eh silap selamat pagi malaysia 
[01:55]  * ejat pokes adlm
[01:55] <ejat> adlan: 
[03:24] <ApOgEE> KatieKitty: r u there?
[03:25] <ApOgEE> hi adlan 
[03:25] <ApOgEE> hi wis3voyag3r 
[03:25] <ApOgEE> hi sweemeng 
[03:25] <ApOgEE> hi SuMarDi 
[03:25] <sweemeng> hi ApOgEE 
[03:25] <ApOgEE> hi hyperair 
[03:26] <KatieKitty> ApOgEE: yup
[03:29] <ApOgEE> KatieKitty: larhost tu server kat mana?
[03:29] <KatieKitty> PA, US
[03:29] <ApOgEE> ooo.. aku ingatkan kat malaysia
[03:30] <sweemeng> no python support
[03:30] <sweemeng> :-(
[03:30] <sweemeng> nvm 
[03:30] <ApOgEE> sbb ko tulis based in Malaysia
[03:30] <KatieKitty> Owner based in Malaysia, accept RM
[03:30] <sweemeng> but i understand
[03:30] <KatieKitty> tu je...
[03:30] <KatieKitty> hahahaha
[03:30] <sweemeng> who else write code in python in malaysia anyway
[03:30] <sweemeng> lol
[03:31] <KatieKitty> sweemeng: need python, then better buy VPS. hahahahaha
[03:31] <sweemeng> who else in malaysia that code in python that can't setup own server or vps and don't have the money anyway
[03:31] <ApOgEE> sweemeng: me
[03:31] <sweemeng> lol
[03:32] <KatieKitty> hahahaha
[03:32] <ApOgEE> sweemeng: python on google app engine x cukup ke?
[03:32] <sweemeng> ApOgEE, tak
[03:32] <sweemeng> sebab susah nak bawa keluar google
[03:32] <ApOgEE> oooo
[03:32] <sweemeng> boleh guna django appengine
[03:32] <sweemeng> tapi itu beta sangat
[03:33] <sweemeng> lebih mudah setup kat vps 
[03:33] <ApOgEE> sweemeng: i don't have money to buy vps... but i code python
[03:33] <sweemeng> atau own server
[03:33] <ApOgEE> ;)
[03:33] <sweemeng> haha
[03:33]  * sweemeng saved some money
[03:33] <sweemeng> so that he can invest on a laptop and a vps for a year
[03:34] <sweemeng> so that i can invest on a laptop and vps 
[03:35] <ApOgEE> i even think about downsizing my shared hosting sites... to save some money. couldn't afford to pay it anymore LOL
[03:36] <sweemeng> yeah
[03:36] <sweemeng> appengine the thing is
[03:36] <sweemeng> once you reach the quota
[03:36] <sweemeng> it can be expensive
[03:36] <sweemeng> unless you do some optimization
[03:36] <sweemeng> i can't quite recommend appengine for prototying anymore
[03:38] <KatieKitty> ApOgEE: ur shared hosting, now u spend how much on it?
[03:46] <ApOgEE> KatieKitty: about RM99 a year
[03:47] <ApOgEE> with ssh (coz I use vim & grep alot)
[03:47] <KatieKitty> oic...
[03:47] <ApOgEE> KatieKitty: on zenpipe by r0kawa
[03:47] <KatieKitty> guna mana punye?
[03:48] <KatieKitty> oh
[03:48] <KatieKitty> RM99 included domain ar?
[03:48] <ApOgEE> no lah.. domain aku beli kat namecheap
[03:49] <KatieKitty> oh
[03:49] <ApOgEE> lebih kurang RM30 je
[03:50] <KatieKitty> RM99 with ssh access, dah kira murah lah
[03:51] <ApOgEE> KatieKitty: larhost RM40 setahun, looks promising...
[03:51] <KatieKitty> got no ssh access 1
[03:51] <ApOgEE> aik? kat situ tulis SSH Support?
[03:52] <KatieKitty> just via the AJAX terminal emulator only actually
[03:52] <KatieKitty> port 22 is blocked 1
[03:52] <ApOgEE> aduh
[03:53] <KatieKitty> heheheh
[03:53] <KatieKitty> can still wget mah
[03:53] <KatieKitty> hahahhahaha
[03:53] <ApOgEE> KatieKitty: sbnrnya by default kat zenpipe pun xde ssh, tapi r0kaWa bukak utk aku.
[03:53] <KatieKitty> hmm...
[03:53] <KatieKitty> i think it is best if u stay with zenpipe
[03:54] <KatieKitty> coz the price u get, is already good enough
[03:54] <KatieKitty> :)
[03:55] <ApOgEE> ya loh... but, tengah selampit ni... kene abandon satu host, bye2 jiwakreatif.com ... unless aku berjaya balik modal jual t-shirt Ubuntu Oneiric Ocelot
[03:56] <ApOgEE> renewal bulan 12
[03:56] <KatieKitty> hosting account tu, hanye boleh guna 1 domain je ke?
[03:56] <ApOgEE> ya, kalo nak tambah domain kene tambah duit
[03:57] <KatieKitty> berapa kena tambah?
[03:58] <ApOgEE> RM20 satu domain
[03:58] <KatieKitty> untuk 1 tahun lar?
[03:58] <ApOgEE> ya
[03:59] <KatieKitty> oic
[03:59] <KatieKitty> consider cheap also ar
[03:59] <ApOgEE> aku mmg suka zenpipe, rokawa punya support pun superb
[03:59] <ApOgEE> server pun kat msia
[04:00] <ApOgEE> KatieKitty: bila ko pacak server kat msia?
[04:00] <ApOgEE> ;)
[04:00] <KatieKitty> yeah, since u pernah ssh masuk, guna server malaysia memang penting...
[04:00] <KatieKitty> kalau ko dapat 1 rack bagi I, price cukup murah, I pacak server kat malaysia lah
[04:00] <KatieKitty> hahahaha
[04:00] <ApOgEE> *bila ko nak pacak server kat msia
[04:00] <KatieKitty> bandwidth kat malaysia ni mahal gile lah....
[04:01] <ApOgEE> ooo
[04:01] <ApOgEE> mesti zenpipe kaya kan?
[04:01] <KatieKitty> sebab tu i punye semua kat US...
[04:02] <KatieKitty> i dunno... lol
[04:02] <KatieKitty> tapi I tau exabytes memang kaya lah
[04:02] <ApOgEE> KatieKitty: server luar slow la
[04:02] <KatieKitty> sebab exabytes, berani masuk 1k users dlm 1 biji Pentium D
[04:02] <ApOgEE> KatieKitty: camne dia boleh kaya?
[04:03] <KatieKitty> exabytes oversell sampai macam ni, mane boleh x kaya
[04:03] <KatieKitty> betul x?
[04:03] <ApOgEE> KatieKitty: tapi aku nak cuba gak la host kat ko... tunggu aku ada projek website yg baru. skang ni takde projek lagi
[04:03] <KatieKitty> ok, hehehe
[04:03] <ApOgEE> projek lama semua aku guna zenpipe
[04:04] <KatieKitty> sebenarnye, server luar x slow
[04:04] <KatieKitty> is laju sebenarnye
[04:04] <KatieKitty> just latency, tinggi sikit
[04:04] <KatieKitty> sebab jauh
[04:04] <KatieKitty> kalau download speed, memang jauh lebih bagus drp malaysia server
[04:04] <ApOgEE> cet... maksud aku slow tu latency dia la... hahaha
[04:05] <KatieKitty> sebab malaysia punye server, port kecil, 1mbps atau 10 mbps je...
[04:05] <KatieKitty> oh... latency...
[04:05] <ApOgEE> kene lak time cable putus la, apa la
[04:05] <ApOgEE> lagi kaput
[04:05] <KatieKitty> kalau x host game server, masalah x besar sebenarnye
[04:05] <KatieKitty> hahahaha
[04:05] <KatieKitty> kalau cable putus, nasib lah
[04:05] <KatieKitty> hahahaha
[04:05] <KatieKitty> kena blame TM 
[04:05] <KatieKitty> hahahaaha
[04:06] <ApOgEE> KatieKitty: takpe, next projek aku try
[04:06] <KatieKitty> Tapi sekarang ni TM pun dah banyak peer yg baru
[04:06] <ApOgEE> boleh aku jual murah2... wahahahaa
[04:06] <KatieKitty> hanye mase dia screw up, dia org cakap cable putus je
[04:06] <KatieKitty> hahaha
[04:07] <ApOgEE> KatieKitty: apsal email limit 5 je?
[04:07] <KatieKitty> mane satu?
[04:07] <KatieKitty> larhost atau cs-squad?
[04:08] <ApOgEE> larhost
[04:08] <KatieKitty> hahaha
[04:08] <KatieKitty> u guna banyak email account ke?
[04:10] <ApOgEE> KatieKitty: hahaha, biasanya aku forward ke gmail je
[04:10] <ApOgEE> sbb malas nak delete inbox
[04:10] <KatieKitty> lol
[04:11] <KatieKitty> kalau pasal larhost, u tanye Fariz
[04:11] <ApOgEE> dan aku encourage customer aku pun forward ke gmail dia je
[04:11] <KatieKitty> sebab I dah bagi dia in charge semua pasal larhost
[04:11] <KatieKitty> :)
[04:11] <ApOgEE> sbb bila inbox dia penuh, email x masuk, bising kat aku
[04:11] <KatieKitty> I focus kat cs-squad.net je sekarang
[04:11] <ApOgEE> hahahaha
[04:11] <KatieKitty> :)
[04:12] <KatieKitty> hari tu yg kecoh-kecoh pasal dia merajuk, sebab larhost ni lah
[04:12] <ApOgEE> aku x pakai banyak email, tapi customer aku kampeni2 banyak staff meh
[04:12] <KatieKitty> dia x buat kerja...
[04:12] <KatieKitty> bini i marah dia, then dia merajuk
[04:12] <KatieKitty> hahahaha
[04:12] <ApOgEE> hahahaha...
[04:13] <KatieKitty> dia tu x buat marketing langsung...
[04:13] <KatieKitty> haih
[04:13] <ApOgEE> cs-squad harga sama ke?
[04:13] <KatieKitty> x, cs-squad punye mahal sikit
[04:13] <KatieKitty> sebab cs-squad.net punye server, users x banyak punye
[04:14] <KatieKitty> sebab xnak oversell
[04:14] <sweemeng> is thinking between linode or zencloud
[04:14] <sweemeng> lol
[04:14] <KatieKitty> sweemeng: u go see cs-squad.net price 1st lah
[04:14] <KatieKitty> hahahaha
[04:14] <sweemeng> easy to pay vs wel known name
[04:14] <ApOgEE> KatieKitty: satu server ko guna share berapa user?
[04:15] <KatieKitty> setakat ni, users x lebih 50 org 1 server
[04:16] <KatieKitty> tapi kat cs-squad.net, i lebih focus buat VPS je
[04:16] <KatieKitty> sebab VPS punye customer, lebih mudah nak layan
[04:16] <KatieKitty> hehehehe
[04:23] <ApOgEE> oho
[04:24] <KatieKitty> anyway, u tengok plans & price kat larhost, agak menarik, kan?
[04:25] <sweemeng> man
[04:25] <sweemeng> one is openvz
[04:25] <sweemeng> the other is xen
[04:25]  * sweemeng can have crazy process, like running lucense
[04:25] <sweemeng> lucene
[04:25] <KatieKitty> :)
[13:09] <ejat> elop2
[13:09] <ejat> sape ade nie