[01:42] <Sarvatt> UDS lanyards this year have vmware on them :)
[01:42] <bjsnider> Sarvatt, can we discuss the libva packaging for a minute?
[01:42] <Sarvatt> bjsnider: sorry about that horrible upload, luckily it didnt build
[01:43] <bjsnider> well, i was going over it, and it looks like you packaged it like gwenole, but i think that's wrong
[01:43] <Sarvatt> it's a total PITA to update it with how it's packaged in debian, I used the intel upstream packaging
[01:43] <bjsnider> he's got all of the public libs together like they're private
[01:44] <Sarvatt> yeah its crazy, not sure why i uploaded it to the PPA
[01:44] <bjsnider> i sent a correct version into x-updates
[01:44] <bjsnider> i think it's correct anyway
[01:44] <Sarvatt> sweet!
[01:45] <bjsnider> i ran it with -list-missing, and it found some stuff. there are 4 bins that aren't installed by debian at all
[01:45]  * Sarvatt takes a look
[01:45] <bjsnider> fedora's packaging stakes the 4 bins and puts them into a package called libva-utils
[01:46] <bjsnider> they also put vainfo there
[01:46] <Sarvatt> bjsnider: have you tried pinging siretart about it?
[01:46] <bjsnider> no
[01:46] <bjsnider> i just noticed it now
[01:47] <Sarvatt> launchpad is extra slow on this hotel wifi
[01:47] <bjsnider> they've stripped the intel driver out so that will now have to be packaged separately
[01:47] <Sarvatt> oh didn't know you did a 1.0.14 too
[01:48] <bjsnider> that intel driver is going to become a big issue with sandy/ivy
[01:48] <bjsnider> imagine how many linux users will have that chipset within 2 or 3 years
[01:51] <Sarvatt> fallen out of love with video acceleration here. no GPU can do hi10p h264, everything I watch uses it so creates more headache because nothing falls back to software correctly :(
[01:52] <Sarvatt> just when everything started to be encoded at h264 profiles GPU's could accelerate this hi10p crap comes out and ruins it again :)
[01:52] <bjsnider> hi10p?
[01:55] <bjsnider> oh, 10-bit colour
[01:56] <Sarvatt> yeah 30 bit color, it looks much better when things are encoded with it and dithered down to 24 bits (especially animated content), can get rid of banding at lower bitrates
[01:57] <Sarvatt> dget is still trying to download the darn .dsc
[01:57] <bjsnider> you must watch a lot of anime
[01:58] <Sarvatt> what i did was build the two packages, tested it locally with vainfo to see if it works, it did, i assumed they used the actual debian packages and found out later they had their own stuff, was a bonehead move
[01:58] <Sarvatt> yep
[01:58] <bjsnider> it's basically nonexistent on anything else at this point
[01:59] <bjsnider> the change i made was a removed the i965-driver package and added a libva-egl1 package
[01:59] <Sarvatt> eww, intel one installs to non-multiarch paths too, so glad that failed to build
[02:02] <Sarvatt> ugh, they got rid of libva-x11-1 too, forces vlc to be removed
[02:02] <bjsnider> i don't know what the intel packaging is all about, what the story is behind that
[02:03] <Sarvatt> something for their own testing i guess
[02:08] <Sarvatt> oh, libva was never multiarched?
[02:09] <bjsnider> no
[02:09] <bjsnider> but how many libs in oneiric were multiarched?
[02:11] <Sarvatt> tons and tons and tons
[02:11] <bjsnider> that's not something i'm an expert on
[02:12] <bjsnider> multiarching
[02:14] <bjsnider> i thought most of them hadn't been multiarched yet
[02:17] <Sarvatt> bjsnider: this looks good to me, the *enc binaries might be useful to have packaged but you'd have to talk to siretart about what to name it without risking them naming it something else and screwing up people who install it with your package name :)
[02:18] <bjsnider> right
[02:18] <bjsnider> libva-utils sounds appropriate to me
[02:18] <Sarvatt> bjsnider: http://paste.ubuntu.com/723895/ might be worthwhile since i965 is gone
[02:19] <bjsnider> right, i forgot to change that
[02:20] <bjsnider> too bad it doesn't fail with unknown option, but i guess that's an oversight
[02:20] <Sarvatt> it would if you built on hurd (haha)
[02:20] <Sarvatt> oh nevermind it'd just silently keep going
[02:27] <Sarvatt> mpeg2vldemo shouldn't be installed
[02:27] <bjsnider> why not?
[02:28] <Sarvatt> its a test with test videos to use with it that arent shipped, not really useful..
[02:28] <Sarvatt> whee it kills compiz too :)
[02:28] <bjsnider> it's installed in fedora and rhel and opensuse
[02:41] <Sarvatt> oh i've been offline that long? lots a crapload of messages.. it looks like mpeg2-I.m2v has to be in the same directory as the binary to do anything, but even then it only pops up a tiny box here