[05:38] morning nlsthzn nuvolari zeref bakuman and others [05:38] the fly is on holiday [05:39] Maaz, coffee on [05:39] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [05:40] Morning uncle Kilos [05:43] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [05:43] Maaz, ty [05:43] Enjoy Kilos [06:23] morning [07:00] good morning [07:01] is it really? [07:01] bakuman: yes, if not why not? [07:02] hiya inetpro [07:02] bakuman, had min sleep so he not too good today [07:02] cheerz, off to go print my report [07:03] Kilos: heh :-) [07:03] nlsthzn: wb [07:03] the internet is really getting bad [07:03] all over the world looks like [07:04] Thanks inetpro ... was able to NOT jump ship ... Unity almost caused me to murder somthing :p [07:04] nlsthzn: hmm... [07:04] nlsthzn: so what are you using now? [07:04] Still on Ubuntu [07:04] like I said, decided not to switch [07:05] I am really used to Unity now, like the way it works, but it still has some major buginess... [07:06] nlsthzn: well I guess it has improved a lot and will keep getting better, that's if I read what others have to say about it [07:09] True... [07:09] a tough experiment that they started but I hope that it pays off in the end [07:09] :) let me rather report and get them fixed than become like most and just throw all the toys from the cot :) [07:10] hehe [07:10] you scaring me now nlsthzn [07:10] maverick works so well [07:10] nlsthzn: that's the way to go, I see lots of unhappiness and division but maybe some day everyone will work together again [07:11] Kilos, nah, this isn't things that will make it useless to anyone... just annoys after certain things happen for the umpteenth time [07:12] or maybe each division will end up with something unique and beautiful that would not be around if it didn't start like this [07:12] the prob is if ordinary no IT peeps try ubuntu and have to struggle they just go back to windows [07:12] inetpro, sure... choice, our biggest boon and bane [07:13] Kilos: even windows benefits from all this [07:13] Kilos, this has always been the case... [07:13] and mac [07:13] ubuntu should only supply stable systems to non geeks [07:13] LTS ;) [07:13] Kilos: how much did you pay again? [07:14] for what inetpro ? [07:14] Kilos: for the ubuntu OS [07:14] lol [07:14] if you want stable then you should stick to LTS [07:14] Well in all fairness... Can't really play the you get what you paid for and in the same breath say you are aiming for 200 million users [07:14] without you guys help i wouldnt be on the pc anymore [07:15] i was lucky to be able to think geeky [07:15] most peeps cant [07:16] you forget how i sukkeled in the beginning [07:16] I think most can, they just haven't tried too [07:16] eish [07:17] * inetpro has work to do [07:17] enjoy, it will help you recover from the weekend [07:17] btw... talking about geek things, I don't seem to be able to keep alive my ssh connections... have added the standard lines to /etc/ssh/ssh_config and still it dies on me :( [07:17] Kilos: heh, I'll try to pop in more often [07:17] cheers inetpro [07:17] ty inetpro [07:18] * Kilos trying to fix sisters xp [07:18] works but first bitches it couldnt find this or that [07:18] grrr [07:23] * nlsthzn has had enough fun and games with ssh and servers for one day... [07:23] time for some time away from the PC... [07:23] cheers [08:55] More almal [10:11] hi hlubbe1 [10:11] hey Kerbero [10:11] hlubbe1, first time here? [10:14] LOL nee Kilos dit is eintlik Patriot [10:14] oh you skelm. gaan dit goed? [10:15] LOL baie goed en daar [10:15] goed dankie [10:15] hehe [10:15] LOL nee ek het maar die windows 7 masjien opgestel en toe moes ek als weer oor laai [10:15] En toe het ek nog nie my nick verander nie [10:15] ah [10:19] LOL maar ek het nog steeds nie my linux masjien reg nie [10:20] sukkel jy [10:20] wat is fout [10:28] Nee ek het nog nie verder gewerk daaraan nie [10:28] ah [10:29] En het nog nie weer iets gehoor van Celeste nie [10:29] eish [10:29] sy het seker vergeet [10:30] die mense is baie besig [10:40] Ek kan goed glo [10:40] jy moet haar net weer herriner [10:41] of stuur haar n epos [10:51] Ek het sopas [10:51] Maar ek moet se ek het ook nie nou tyd gehaat om eers te dink aan die server nie [10:54] lol [10:55] time is tight [10:55] mooi ow liedjie gewees [10:55] ou [11:05] LOL yup [11:32] howdy all [11:32] o/ magespawn [11:33] nlsthzn, do you know anything about sound in ubuntu? [11:38] magespawn, well I know it is nice when it works [11:38] more than that not really [11:39] really nice when it works [11:40] wrangling with a media centre pc got everything working except sound [11:41] sorry... I am not going to be any help... so far all my hardware has simply worked so I didn't even have to trouble shoot [11:42] same with me up till now [11:42] arrggh [11:49] hi Kilos [11:49] hiya magespawn [11:49] was it you with the serial mouse [12:50] lo kbmonkey sakhi [12:51] nlsthzn, is it near knock off or go to work time for you [12:51] Hard to believe but I am off today (have been for the last 4 days... first time in ages) :( [12:52] :) I mean [12:52] yay enjoy it [12:53] Thanks... want to try and watch the UDS opening keynote... [12:53] so far the live video is a no go :/ [12:53] UDS?? [12:53] ... and I don't know with that to listen to the audio [12:53] Ubuntu Developer Summit [12:53] ah [12:54] They getting together to plan 12.-4 [12:54] thats nice [12:54] hello hello [12:54] go tumbles [12:57] cool video is up :) [12:58] http://video.ubuntu.com/live/ for those so inclined with the bandwidth :( [12:58] * tumbleweed waves [12:59] lol [12:59] there's also an audio stream if you have less bandwidth [12:59] can one of you record the audio for me please [12:59] no ascii video for the rest of us? ;D [12:59] i will get it when data grows [12:59] Kilos: I'm recording the audio http://mirrors.tumbleweed.org.za/uds-p/ [12:59] (all the audio) [13:00] ty tumbles if you can just give me the size at the end [13:00] Kilos: you can look at the previous UDS to get an idea of sizes: http://mirrors.tumbleweed.org.za/uds-o/ [13:01] ty [13:02] links saved ty [13:02] lo JabberwockyA19 [13:02] well the video is just loading for me... not playing >.< [13:03] yeah audio is more reliable, I suggest streaming both [13:03] and can't seem to get the audio going either lol [13:03] so you see some video occasionally :) [13:03] brb, heading to the net cafe... [13:03] :) [13:05] tumbleweed, know anything about audio in ubuntu. i have got no sound [13:05] magespawn: check your mixer levels [13:05] done theu are all at 100% [13:05] flash can also lock pulseaudio out from yoru soundcard, so logging out and in again may help [13:06] this new install of xubuntu [13:06] trying to set up media centre [13:06] plays dvd fine just no sound [13:06] or sound for anything [13:07] see the via controller fine [13:08] aw i had the same prob with xubuntu [13:08] thats why its shelved i think [13:10] then how are you supposed to get mythbuntu to work [13:10] ? [13:10] uses xcfe as the desktop [13:11] so should I just use ubuntu and be done with it? [13:11] kilos have you used the text only browser? [13:12] magespawn: XBMC > MythTV [13:13] (Unless you want to use a TV tuner card.) [13:13] no magespawn [13:14] is it in repos? [13:14] cocooncrash, i used the mythbuntu cd originally got no sound and nothing seemed to work [13:14] so tried xubuntu and no sound either [13:15] Kilos, not sure [13:15] Kilos, just saw something online about it [13:15] will see what i can find now [13:16] * nlsthzn finally got the right stream to banshee... [13:17] methinks kbuses it [13:17] grrr [13:17] where the monkey went [13:18] lol [13:18] kbmonkey, wb [13:18] walked to the net cafe Kilos :] [13:18] aaaah, wired connections [13:18] called Lynx [13:18] you use the text only browser hey [13:18] i use lynx [13:18] elinks :] [13:18] I like its menu and dialogs [13:18] its like elink and links2 [13:19] even read slashdot with it [13:19] kbmonkey, whats that new thing you were playing with other night [13:19] you and nuvolari i think [13:20] alpine? [13:21] text mail client. linked it up to my gmail [13:21] ya whats that [13:22] lo Kerbero [13:22] ah [13:23] we are becoming cli nerds :D [13:23] magespawn, did you get the seriel mouse working [13:23] serial [13:23] also checked out orpheus, a cli music player [13:23] lol [13:23] no man you gotta drag and drop sometimes [13:24] or right click and open with [13:24] I go crazy fiddling with the trackpad [13:24] go? [13:24] okay then how about a cli music ripper [13:24] methinks you been crazy long time now just getting worse [13:25] magespawn, the mouse??? [13:25] you gave up [13:25] no have not even got there yet [13:25] still trying to work the sound on the mythbuntu/media pc [13:26] lol i found old notes [13:26] took hours to find [13:26] let me know when then i burn them later [13:26] sure, mpeg123, ffmep and mencoder can rip cd's cli :D [13:27] had 2 reems of notes [13:27] ffmpeg* [13:27] or use crip, [13:27] but I hardly rip discs nowadays [13:27] buy online or use jamendo when bandwidth allows [13:28] jamendo is cool [13:28] so much that I donate to artists I love [13:30] have not used any of the music yet [13:30] they playing queen in the net cafe :D [13:33] okay guys going to try ubuntu on this machine brbr\ [13:37] howdy all [13:38] magespawn, wb [13:38] that was a fast install [13:38] nah now i am on my laptop [13:38] lol [13:39] you got too many toys [13:39] trying to gey more [13:39] gey=get [13:39] boys need toys [13:40] man and getting them all to work together [13:40] that is some serious work [13:40] and most of them have been given to em [13:40] just had a thought maybe the sound card on the board is blown [13:42] someone pumping the death metal too loud, eh. [13:42] Blow your speakers! darr darra dum dum bam! [13:43] nah the speakers are fine [13:44] it's a Manowar song [13:44] old school glamrock :p [13:44] glam metal [13:45] the kind who sings about dragons and swinging broadswords and victorious battles [13:45] ... and blowing up speakers, of course [13:45] hah [13:45] missed that [13:46] why does flash insist on capturing focus? >: [13:57] excited, going to see the new place tonight! [13:57] moving in tomorrow [14:12] i think i need to move to cape town [14:14] kbmonkey, awesome news, congrats :) [14:15] nice one [14:27] So an IEEE engineer walks into a bar and orders 1.00000000001000000 082740370999090373516082763671875 root beers. The bartender says, “I’ll have to charge extra; that’s a root beer float”. And the engineer says, “In that case, make it a double”. [14:28] >.< [14:28] :p [14:29] okay i do not get that eithere [14:34] float point numbers have arbitrary precision, [14:34] so we convert them to double to get accurate results :p [14:37] okay i think that is a little beyond my maths grade at the moment [14:38] lol [14:39] next time I'll tell a van der merwe joke :] [14:40] ouch [14:42] kbmonkey: LOL [14:43] i only did maths at school on std grade and that was in '93 [14:44] same here magespawn [14:44] then how do you know about that? [14:45] programming also teaches you about data types like floats and doubles [14:45] also only just starting with that. [14:45] I did a lot of accounting package integration and costing systems, so I had to know which dta type to use [14:45] * kbmonkey cringes at those days [14:46] I found so many bugs in quickbooks, and pastel, I was even responsible ffor them delaying some releases because of their bugs. lol [14:46] you have no idea how flaky qbooks is, shocking. [14:47] http://xkcd.com/236/ [14:47] why do they do it that way? [14:48] ha ha ha magespawn ! that hover-over is nasty [14:48] what coding are you keen on magespawn ? [14:49] busy reading a book on python [14:49] also dabbling in html and css [14:49] that reminds me, to install... um Kilos what what that bot you talked about? [14:50] supybot! [14:50] its a python irc bot [14:53] which book magespawn? Dive Into Python is pretty good [14:56] Guide to programming with Python by Michael Dawson, hard copy too. [14:56] I have pdf of the other and others [14:58] who made Maaz ? [14:58] Maaz who made you? [14:58] kbmonkey: Excuse me? [14:58] lo [14:58] lol [14:58] same response if you ask me that [14:58] wondering what recommended irc server I can run for testing [14:58] ha ha! [14:59] kbmonkey: http://ibid.omnia.za.net/ [14:59] kbmonkey: but Maaz is not really a IRC server [14:59] it's just a bot [15:00] kbmonkey: I've used ngircd in the past [15:00] kbmonkey: I wrote the first parts of Maaz, but haven't been involved recently. [15:01] thanks inetpro, yes I know she's a bot, but to test I need a server in case no net [15:01] kbmonkey: Not necessarily [15:01] I guess unit tests would work too [15:01] * inetpro uses ngircd for internal usage [15:01] http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/browse/8200 [15:01] kbmonkey: There's a script to communicate with the command line [15:02] thanks cocooncrash ! [15:02] kbmonkey: And it can do telnet [15:03] and xmpp, nice [15:03] Maaz: sources [15:03] cocooncrash: Sources: atrum (irc://Maaz@eu.atrum.org:7000), freenode (irc://Maaz@chat.eu.freenode.net:7000), http (http://maaz.mene.za.net/), jabber (xmpp://maaz@mene.za.net/source), pb, silcza (silc://Maaz@spider.web.za:706), smtp (mailto:maaz@mene.za.net), telnet and timer [15:13] kbmonkey, ibid [15:13] in the repos [15:13] sorry was asleep [15:13] thanks Kilos [15:13] got that and supybot [15:14] yw [15:14] just curious [15:14] ibid is maaz [15:14] if i member right [15:15] wow you guys have been chatting the hind leg off a donkey here [15:15] ok gotta run again, bbl! [15:19] happens sometimes when it is a slow day at work for ppl [15:19] lol [15:28] or if something sparks their interest [15:33] later all [15:33] toods magespawn [16:08] Hi ubuntu-za [16:12] hi zeref [16:14] Bye ubuntu-za, xD [16:18] oh my [16:27] Guys, will there b a 10.04.4 release before 12.04 [16:29] zeref-c: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PreciseReleaseSchedule [16:40] ? [17:51] * nuvolari tiptoes in [17:51] o/ [17:54] evening nuvolari [17:55] hallo oom Kilos [17:55] hoe gaan dit vandag oom? [17:56] goed dankie en self seun [17:56] kan nie kla nie oom! [19:03] whew you guys hopping in and out [19:18] Maaz, coffee on [19:18] * Maaz washes some mugs [19:22] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [19:23] Maaz, ty [19:23] Enjoy Kilos [20:12] tumbleweed: [20:12] zeref: [20:16] ummm, when LTS version are released (server editions) are they stable? [20:16] rather, stable enough be be used in production [20:18] they have more stability effort than other releases [20:18] if you want real stability, wait for .1 We don't announce LTS-to-LTS upgrades until .1 [20:23] hmmm [20:52] night all. sleep tight