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knomeochosi, shot?00:04
ochosisure, one sec00:05
ochosiactually i'm trying to figure out why skype and most other qt-apps don't recognize my gtk-theme in oneiric00:06
ochosi:/00:06
ochosias long as i export GTK2_RC_FILES="$HOME/.gtkrc-2.0" it works00:06
knomea-ha00:06
ochosiso i guess i need to make an xinitrc00:06
ochosihttp://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10312011-010656am.php00:07
knomemm-hmm00:08
knomedoesn't look bad at all00:09
ochosii'm considering making the scrollbar a bit lighter00:09
ochosito stand out less00:09
ochosimaybe like the resize-grip00:09
GridCubeochosi, thats pretty much awesome00:09
ochosibut i'm not sure00:09
knomeyeah, probably wise00:09
ochosiwith dark terminal-bg: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10312011-011007am.php00:10
GridCubenot bad00:10
GridCubenot bad at all00:10
ochosiyeah, i think that works ok as well00:10
* GridCube still wants embossed text :P00:11
ochosiGridCube: i think that'd make the window-title stand out less...00:11
knomethe upper-right corner is a bit weird, but there's not much you can do about it..00:11
GridCube:P i know, but it would still be awesome00:11
ochosiknome: believe me, that's even weirder when adding a new tab...00:12
knomeochosi, lol00:12
ochosihttp://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10312011-011228am.php00:12
knomeahha00:12
knomeoverlapping detected  :P00:13
ochosiyeah :)00:13
knomeotherwise, that's nice00:13
ochosiwe basically have that problem already00:13
ochosiso it's not entirely new00:13
knomemmh00:13
GridCubeit doesn't look that bad00:13
ochosiGridCube: look closely at the resize-grip00:13
GridCubeyes and the top of the scroll bar too00:14
ochosiknome: what do you think about adding a tiny border to the resize-grip, similar to what the scrollbar has. too obtrusive?00:14
ochosiGridCube: yep00:14
ochosilike this: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10312011-011557am.php00:16
GridCubethats better00:16
ochosiknome: i have to say i instantaneously like it :)00:16
knomeochosi, yeah, it's good00:16
ochosik, i'll push that then00:16
ochosiit also looks better in other windows00:17
knome:)00:17
knomeyou mean in vista too?00:17
* knome hides00:17
ochosistill not obtrusive and more like: "you can click me"00:17
ochosiyes :)00:17
ochosimeh, i hate that i have to always enter my credentials for zimagez in xfce-screenshoter00:18
ochosiwonder whether there's a way around that00:18
knome:)00:18
knomeprobably is00:18
GridCubeusing another imagehosting ?00:18
knomeor you can just use "sausage" as the password00:18
ochosiyeah, maybe i'll just try something like that00:19
ochosiGridCube: i think xfce-screenshooter only supports zimagez atm00:19
GridCube:/00:19
GridCubeREPORTING A WISHLISTBUG!00:19
GridCube/caplocks OFF00:19
ochosianother image with the new resize-grip: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10312011-012252am.php00:23
knomemm-hmm00:25
ochosiactually that makes me wonder whether we should try to make the window-controls look like that as well00:25
ochosior whether it'd be over-the-top00:25
GridCubelight-grey icons?00:26
knomehard to accomplish i think, since you'd have to add 1px border to top-right-bottm-left..00:26
ochosiknome: yeah true00:26
ochosiGridCube: was mostly referring to the border00:26
GridCubeok00:26
knomehttp://wiki.knome.fi/xubuntu:websitetodo00:26
knomefeel free to see if there is something that looks off00:26
ochosimhm00:28
ochosiknome: hm, i think mostly the "x"-button would be hard to do, the others i can imagine working out. but i'm not sure it would look pretty...00:29
knomeyeah00:29
GridCubeochosi, but what about people moving them around?00:30
* GridCube hides00:30
ochosi?00:31
ochosime thinks maybe it's too late for him already to get jokes00:31
ochosi+/00:31
GridCubeochosi, 00:33
GridCubehttp://sirupsen.com/a-simple-imgur-bash-screenshot-utility/00:33
ochosiGridCube: hmyeah, sure there are other ways, but i kinda like xfce4-screenshooter. probably i'll talk to jerome and see if he's willing to fix it00:35
knomeUAAH00:37
knomei hate the ubuntu wiki00:37
knomewhy is <b> and <a> set to be taller than a line?00:38
knomethat's retarded00:38
knomehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Website00:41
ochosisomeone just fixed the terminal-tabs :) http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10312011-014231am.php00:42
knomehmm00:42
knomecan you have a gradient on the non-active tab?00:43
knomeor is that out of control00:43
ochosihm, tbh i don't know :)00:43
knomeit's slightly confusing00:43
ochosibut i guess i can00:43
knomethe active tab mixing so much with the bh00:44
knome*bg00:44
knomein the tab-area too00:44
knomeif the gradient could start lower on the tab, it would be optimal00:44
knomebut i suppose it can't :P00:44
ochosiyeah. that's the price you pay...00:44
knomewhat if you added just a very slightly darker 1px border?00:44
ochosithen it'd break the resize-grip again00:45
knomehuh?00:45
ochosii realized that what you see "behind" the resize-grip is the tab-frame00:45
knomeaha00:45
ochosiso that border has to go...00:45
knome:<00:45
GridCubeochosi, what if you edit ~/.config/xfce4/xfce4-screenshooter/xfce4-screenshooter          and add a "password=something"00:45
knomeme not likey00:46
ochosiGridCube: already tried ;)00:46
* GridCube doesn't know why he is so worried about this00:46
ochosiworried about what?00:46
GridCubeXD about making it work00:46
GridCubemaybe worried is not tthe correct word00:47
knomedetermined :P00:48
knomemeh, it's 3am00:48
ochosihehe00:48
GridCubeobsessed00:49
knomeoh yay00:53
knomenuts00:53
GridCubeyou broke the ubuntu wiki?00:53
knomenope00:53
knomei'm eating roasted and salted cashew nuts00:54
knomei thought i could have a little something if i'm going to stay up longer :P00:54
ochosiit's slowly getting better i think: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10312011-015553am.php00:56
GridCube:D it is00:56
ochosidunno why the gradient is so clumsy though00:56
knomenow we're talking; some *very* hot chili sauces with minced meat and beans with nacho chips00:57
knomeochosi, would that be because some gtk setting?:P00:57
ochosiknome: some stupid murrine-setting, no clue which one :)00:57
knomehehe00:58
ochosibut tbh i can live with this00:59
ochosii mean it's not like i create a lot of tabs in my terminals00:59
GridCubecant it be not gradiented?01:00
ochosiwell it has a gradient, it's just not very elegant :)01:00
knomeochosi, i think we played with that setting in albatross, but can't remember what that was01:01
ochosiyeah, albatross has a very intense glaze01:02
knomehmmm...01:02
* knome feels the 'after death' in his mouth01:02
GridCubeochosi, :P can't you make it like firefox's tabs?01:04
* ochosi thinks GridCube must be kidding01:04
ochosi:)01:04
GridCubeXD01:04
knomeanybody else want some 50k scoville dip?01:06
GridCubenot knowing what that is,no01:07
knomehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoville_scale01:07
GridCubeD: no, thanks01:08
GridCubelast time i did one of those i puked01:08
knomehah01:08
ochosithink i'll stick with this for now: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10312011-021226am.php01:12
ochosidefinitely better than what we started out with imo01:13
knome:)01:13
ochosiit's even ok with a dark terminal01:15
ochosihttp://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10312011-021507am.php01:15
knome:)01:15
ochosiso i think i'll push both the new resize-grip and the terminal stuff01:15
GridCube:)01:17
GridCubei like it very much01:17
ochosiok, both in git now01:18
ochosithink i'll also update the gmb-version in our ppa01:20
knomeeveryone gone? :P01:37
ochosinah, still waiting for the gmb-packages to build01:37
ochosiso i can test them01:37
knomeheh01:37
ochosiwhen it's already so late i tend to break things, so it's better to test the package :)01:38
knomesee image posted at #shimmer01:38
knome;)01:38
ochosiyou really think i'll click a link with such a title? :D01:38
knomeyeah01:38
ochosiok, i did, but i was a bit disappointed ;)01:39
knomeyeah01:39
knomebut what a lovely name01:39
knome!01:39
ochosiindeed01:39
knomei wonder how much scovilles there is :P01:39
knomei mean, if it's >500k, the name is earned01:39
knomeif not, then BOO01:39
knome:P01:39
GridCubei don't know how to apply this01:40
knomehow to apply a hot sauce? :P01:41
ochosiah nice, package just started building01:42
GridCubei saved the old terminal.rc to terminal.old and then created a new terminal.rc, choosed the greybird.rc both on  appareance and windows decorations but no grey terminal01:42
GridCubeoh :D01:43
GridCubemanually changing it to #cecece01:44
ochosiyes, the colors are not set by the gtk-theme01:44
GridCube:D01:44
GridCubeochosi,  its possible to make round the bottom corners?01:51
ochosiGridCube: for what?01:51
GridCubelike the top corners are when windowsed :p01:51
GridCubefor it to look nicer01:51
knomeSHINY!!01:52
ochosimaking them round would mean adding extra space in the bottom01:52
knomehttp://wp.xubuntu.org/01:52
knomewe got our changes pulled01:52
knomeone step closer to publishing it01:52
ochosinice01:52
GridCube:D01:52
knomeokay, i'm off for tonight01:58
knomesee you later01:58
ochosinighty night01:58
GridCubenight01:58
GridCubeim gonna do the same01:58
GridCube:)01:58
GridCubework tomorrow01:58
GridCube:D01:59
ochosiyup, me too01:59
GridCubelater this week i hope to buy my new computer \o/01:59
ochosiwhat will you buy?01:59
GridCubehttp://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-125343930-netbook-exomate-1250-lcd-10-touchscreen-atom-450-2gb-320-gb-_JM01:59
ochosiwow, pretty expensive stuff02:00
ochosiyet very toy-ish in its aesthetics. that's a funny combination :)02:00
GridCube(its on argentinian pesos, which is 700U$S02:00
ochosioh ok02:01
GridCubebut still, very expensive02:01
ochosiyeo02:01
ochosiyep02:01
GridCubei could buy a 17" notebook for that, not touchy tho02:01
ochosilooking forward to your xubuntu-touch-friendly review :)02:02
GridCubethis one i can make work lika a tablet and use at the uni or other places whitout calling too much attention :P02:02
GridCubeand its an intel classmate basically so it should work whit ubuntu02:03
ochosimhm02:03
GridCubeit has been reported to do so, except for the acelerometer02:03
GridCubewell now im gone :) good luck02:05
Bjorn__hi, is there someone who can help me with a serious prob?10:07
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GridCubehey madnick, you around?14:56
madnickGridCube: hi15:02
madnickis everyone at the UDS :|15:08
madnickGridCube: i read your email15:10
GridCubeapparently15:10
GridCube:)15:10
GridCubeawesome15:10
GridCubei wanted to talk to you about that15:11
madnick:P15:11
GridCubei think theres a lot of redundancy on our database15:11
GridCubedate for example15:11
madnickWell, the design is getting there, but the types are a bit wrong15:11
GridCube:P explain15:13
madnickOkay15:13
madnickFor example, we might not want "active" to bea 256 varchar, 15:14
madnickand i was thinking we put arch to 64 bit or 32 bit15:14
madnickwe might even have an arch tble15:14
madnicktable*15:14
madnickIf its gonna be a not only xubuntu project15:15
madnickand ram could be unsigned int15:15
madnickand the schedule might need a bit more fields15:16
madnickOr infact, we could put arch on the test table15:17
madnickI have not really thought this through, because I was hoping we'd get more input on the mail15:18
GridCubewe might, we might not15:27
GridCubei still do not understand what the "active" field stands for15:28
madnickif the testcase is active or not 15:28
GridCubethe UserSpecs table needs a lotof work15:28
GridCubei don't understand what that means madnick 15:28
madnickwell, lets say we have a test case "LiveCD Full Disk Install"15:29
madnickor similar15:29
madnickBut we may want to make that inactive15:29
madnickSo that it does not show up15:29
madnickBut I also think that a test-schedule might be enough15:30
GridCubeyes15:31
GridCubethats what i was thinking15:31
GridCubebecause teh "active" status is defined by the schedule15:31
madnickWell, we can think more about the db, but lets wait a couple of days, because someone might come along with an idea that changes everything :D And then we need to do a complete redesign 15:32
madnickAnd that is not fun :P15:32
ablomenFor the keeping the blog filled thing: just ran across this review >> http://goo.gl/6ug1D16:20
ochosimr_pouit: how come gvfs-backends isn't installed by default in 11.10? (as far as i can see now without it thunar can't do network-browsing)16:28
micahgI take it there's no meeting today18:08
drcDoesn't look like it....18:12
micahgwell, wouldn't be for another hour18:17
* drc hates time zones :(18:18
micahgheh18:18
drcNever remember if it's -6 or -5 here.18:19
micahgdrc: where are you?18:19
drcZulu Time Rocks!18:19
micahgprobably -5 this week and -6 next :)18:19
drcI used to have a dula face watch, one with local and one with zulu18:20
drcmicahg: yeah...one I stop and think, I remember...but thinking is not my strong suit.18:20
micahgdrc: date -u :)18:21
drcmicahg: Sorry...Nebraska USA18:22
drcI <think> it's CDT now...so -5...this week...18:23
micahgyeah18:23
ochosimicahg: yeah i think knome announced that the first team meeting would be after UDS19:08
ochosimicahg: btw, has gmusicbrowser 1.1.8 been synced to debian yet?19:08
micahgochosi: alessio imported it, but hasn't uploaded, he's here at UDS, so hopefully I'll get to chat with him19:09
ochosioh cool19:09
ochosimicahg: if you meet some of the other mozilla people, please bug them about the thunderbird-toolbar buttons ;)19:09
micahgheh, I think I have someone to bug about that19:10
ochosiawesome! :D19:10
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