[00:04] ochosi, shot? [00:05] sure, one sec [00:06] actually i'm trying to figure out why skype and most other qt-apps don't recognize my gtk-theme in oneiric [00:06] :/ [00:06] as long as i export GTK2_RC_FILES="$HOME/.gtkrc-2.0" it works [00:06] a-ha [00:06] so i guess i need to make an xinitrc [00:07] http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10312011-010656am.php [00:08] mm-hmm [00:09] doesn't look bad at all [00:09] i'm considering making the scrollbar a bit lighter [00:09] to stand out less [00:09] maybe like the resize-grip [00:09] ochosi, thats pretty much awesome [00:09] but i'm not sure [00:09] yeah, probably wise [00:10] with dark terminal-bg: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10312011-011007am.php [00:10] not bad [00:10] not bad at all [00:10] yeah, i think that works ok as well [00:11] * GridCube still wants embossed text :P [00:11] GridCube: i think that'd make the window-title stand out less... [00:11] the upper-right corner is a bit weird, but there's not much you can do about it.. [00:11] :P i know, but it would still be awesome [00:12] knome: believe me, that's even weirder when adding a new tab... [00:12] ochosi, lol [00:12] http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10312011-011228am.php [00:12] ahha [00:13] overlapping detected :P [00:13] yeah :) [00:13] otherwise, that's nice [00:13] we basically have that problem already [00:13] so it's not entirely new [00:13] mmh [00:13] it doesn't look that bad [00:13] GridCube: look closely at the resize-grip [00:14] yes and the top of the scroll bar too [00:14] knome: what do you think about adding a tiny border to the resize-grip, similar to what the scrollbar has. too obtrusive? [00:14] GridCube: yep [00:16] like this: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10312011-011557am.php [00:16] thats better [00:16] knome: i have to say i instantaneously like it :) [00:16] ochosi, yeah, it's good [00:16] k, i'll push that then [00:17] it also looks better in other windows [00:17] :) [00:17] you mean in vista too? [00:17] * knome hides [00:17] still not obtrusive and more like: "you can click me" [00:17] yes :) [00:18] meh, i hate that i have to always enter my credentials for zimagez in xfce-screenshoter [00:18] wonder whether there's a way around that [00:18] :) [00:18] probably is [00:18] using another imagehosting ? [00:18] or you can just use "sausage" as the password [00:19] yeah, maybe i'll just try something like that [00:19] GridCube: i think xfce-screenshooter only supports zimagez atm [00:19] :/ [00:19] REPORTING A WISHLISTBUG! [00:19] /caplocks OFF [00:23] another image with the new resize-grip: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10312011-012252am.php [00:25] mm-hmm [00:25] actually that makes me wonder whether we should try to make the window-controls look like that as well [00:25] or whether it'd be over-the-top [00:26] light-grey icons? [00:26] hard to accomplish i think, since you'd have to add 1px border to top-right-bottm-left.. [00:26] knome: yeah true [00:26] GridCube: was mostly referring to the border [00:26] ok [00:26] http://wiki.knome.fi/xubuntu:websitetodo [00:26] feel free to see if there is something that looks off [00:28] mhm [00:29] knome: hm, i think mostly the "x"-button would be hard to do, the others i can imagine working out. but i'm not sure it would look pretty... [00:29] yeah [00:30] ochosi, but what about people moving them around? [00:30] * GridCube hides [00:31] ? [00:31] me thinks maybe it's too late for him already to get jokes [00:31] +/ [00:33] ochosi, [00:33] http://sirupsen.com/a-simple-imgur-bash-screenshot-utility/ [00:35] GridCube: hmyeah, sure there are other ways, but i kinda like xfce4-screenshooter. probably i'll talk to jerome and see if he's willing to fix it [00:37] UAAH [00:37] i hate the ubuntu wiki [00:38] why is and set to be taller than a line? [00:38] that's retarded [00:41] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Website [00:42] someone just fixed the terminal-tabs :) http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10312011-014231am.php [00:42] hmm [00:43] can you have a gradient on the non-active tab? [00:43] or is that out of control [00:43] hm, tbh i don't know :) [00:43] it's slightly confusing [00:43] but i guess i can [00:44] the active tab mixing so much with the bh [00:44] *bg [00:44] in the tab-area too [00:44] if the gradient could start lower on the tab, it would be optimal [00:44] but i suppose it can't :P [00:44] yeah. that's the price you pay... [00:44] what if you added just a very slightly darker 1px border? [00:45] then it'd break the resize-grip again [00:45] huh? [00:45] i realized that what you see "behind" the resize-grip is the tab-frame [00:45] aha [00:45] so that border has to go... [00:45] :< [00:45] ochosi, what if you edit ~/.config/xfce4/xfce4-screenshooter/xfce4-screenshooter and add a "password=something" [00:46] me not likey [00:46] GridCube: already tried ;) [00:46] * GridCube doesn't know why he is so worried about this [00:46] worried about what? [00:46] XD about making it work [00:47] maybe worried is not tthe correct word [00:48] determined :P [00:48] meh, it's 3am [00:48] hehe [00:49] obsessed [00:53] oh yay [00:53] nuts [00:53] you broke the ubuntu wiki? [00:53] nope [00:54] i'm eating roasted and salted cashew nuts [00:54] i thought i could have a little something if i'm going to stay up longer :P [00:56] it's slowly getting better i think: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10312011-015553am.php [00:56] :D it is [00:56] dunno why the gradient is so clumsy though [00:57] now we're talking; some *very* hot chili sauces with minced meat and beans with nacho chips [00:57] ochosi, would that be because some gtk setting?:P [00:57] knome: some stupid murrine-setting, no clue which one :) [00:58] hehe [00:59] but tbh i can live with this [00:59] i mean it's not like i create a lot of tabs in my terminals [01:00] cant it be not gradiented? [01:00] well it has a gradient, it's just not very elegant :) [01:01] ochosi, i think we played with that setting in albatross, but can't remember what that was [01:02] yeah, albatross has a very intense glaze [01:02] hmmm... [01:02] * knome feels the 'after death' in his mouth [01:04] ochosi, :P can't you make it like firefox's tabs? [01:04] * ochosi thinks GridCube must be kidding [01:04] :) [01:04] XD [01:06] anybody else want some 50k scoville dip? [01:07] not knowing what that is,no [01:07] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoville_scale [01:08] D: no, thanks [01:08] last time i did one of those i puked [01:08] hah [01:12] think i'll stick with this for now: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10312011-021226am.php [01:13] definitely better than what we started out with imo [01:13] :) [01:15] it's even ok with a dark terminal [01:15] http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10312011-021507am.php [01:15] :) [01:15] so i think i'll push both the new resize-grip and the terminal stuff [01:17] :) [01:17] i like it very much [01:18] ok, both in git now [01:20] think i'll also update the gmb-version in our ppa [01:37] everyone gone? :P [01:37] nah, still waiting for the gmb-packages to build [01:37] so i can test them [01:37] heh [01:38] when it's already so late i tend to break things, so it's better to test the package :) [01:38] see image posted at #shimmer [01:38] ;) [01:38] you really think i'll click a link with such a title? :D [01:38] yeah [01:39] ok, i did, but i was a bit disappointed ;) [01:39] yeah [01:39] but what a lovely name [01:39] ! [01:39] indeed [01:39] i wonder how much scovilles there is :P [01:39] i mean, if it's >500k, the name is earned [01:39] if not, then BOO [01:39] :P [01:40] i don't know how to apply this [01:41] how to apply a hot sauce? :P [01:42] ah nice, package just started building [01:42] i saved the old terminal.rc to terminal.old and then created a new terminal.rc, choosed the greybird.rc both on appareance and windows decorations but no grey terminal [01:43] oh :D [01:44] manually changing it to #cecece [01:44] yes, the colors are not set by the gtk-theme [01:44] :D [01:51] ochosi, its possible to make round the bottom corners? [01:51] GridCube: for what? [01:51] like the top corners are when windowsed :p [01:51] for it to look nicer [01:52] SHINY!! [01:52] making them round would mean adding extra space in the bottom [01:52] http://wp.xubuntu.org/ [01:52] we got our changes pulled [01:52] one step closer to publishing it [01:52] nice [01:52] :D [01:58] okay, i'm off for tonight [01:58] see you later [01:58] nighty night [01:58] night [01:58] im gonna do the same [01:58] :) [01:58] work tomorrow [01:59] :D [01:59] yup, me too [01:59] later this week i hope to buy my new computer \o/ [01:59] what will you buy? [01:59] http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-125343930-netbook-exomate-1250-lcd-10-touchscreen-atom-450-2gb-320-gb-_JM [02:00] wow, pretty expensive stuff [02:00] yet very toy-ish in its aesthetics. that's a funny combination :) [02:00] (its on argentinian pesos, which is 700U$S [02:01] oh ok [02:01] but still, very expensive [02:01] yeo [02:01] yep [02:01] i could buy a 17" notebook for that, not touchy tho [02:02] looking forward to your xubuntu-touch-friendly review :) [02:02] this one i can make work lika a tablet and use at the uni or other places whitout calling too much attention :P [02:03] and its an intel classmate basically so it should work whit ubuntu [02:03] mhm [02:03] it has been reported to do so, except for the acelerometer [02:05] well now im gone :) good luck [10:07] hi, is there someone who can help me with a serious prob? === holstein_ is now known as holstein [14:56] hey madnick, you around? [15:02] GridCube: hi [15:08] is everyone at the UDS :| [15:10] GridCube: i read your email [15:10] apparently [15:10] :) [15:10] awesome [15:11] i wanted to talk to you about that [15:11] :P [15:11] i think theres a lot of redundancy on our database [15:11] date for example [15:11] Well, the design is getting there, but the types are a bit wrong [15:13] :P explain [15:13] Okay [15:14] For example, we might not want "active" to bea 256 varchar, [15:14] and i was thinking we put arch to 64 bit or 32 bit [15:14] we might even have an arch tble [15:14] table* [15:15] If its gonna be a not only xubuntu project [15:15] and ram could be unsigned int [15:16] and the schedule might need a bit more fields [15:17] Or infact, we could put arch on the test table [15:18] I have not really thought this through, because I was hoping we'd get more input on the mail [15:27] we might, we might not [15:28] i still do not understand what the "active" field stands for [15:28] if the testcase is active or not [15:28] the UserSpecs table needs a lotof work [15:28] i don't understand what that means madnick [15:29] well, lets say we have a test case "LiveCD Full Disk Install" [15:29] or similar [15:29] But we may want to make that inactive [15:29] So that it does not show up [15:30] But I also think that a test-schedule might be enough [15:31] yes [15:31] thats what i was thinking [15:31] because teh "active" status is defined by the schedule [15:32] Well, we can think more about the db, but lets wait a couple of days, because someone might come along with an idea that changes everything :D And then we need to do a complete redesign [15:32] And that is not fun :P [16:20] For the keeping the blog filled thing: just ran across this review >> http://goo.gl/6ug1D [16:28] mr_pouit: how come gvfs-backends isn't installed by default in 11.10? (as far as i can see now without it thunar can't do network-browsing) [18:08] I take it there's no meeting today [18:12] Doesn't look like it.... [18:17] well, wouldn't be for another hour [18:18] * drc hates time zones :( [18:18] heh [18:19] Never remember if it's -6 or -5 here. [18:19] drc: where are you? [18:19] Zulu Time Rocks! [18:19] probably -5 this week and -6 next :) [18:20] I used to have a dula face watch, one with local and one with zulu [18:20] micahg: yeah...one I stop and think, I remember...but thinking is not my strong suit. [18:21] drc: date -u :) [18:22] micahg: Sorry...Nebraska USA [18:23] I it's CDT now...so -5...this week... [18:23] yeah [19:08] micahg: yeah i think knome announced that the first team meeting would be after UDS [19:08] micahg: btw, has gmusicbrowser 1.1.8 been synced to debian yet? [19:09] ochosi: alessio imported it, but hasn't uploaded, he's here at UDS, so hopefully I'll get to chat with him [19:09] oh cool [19:09] micahg: if you meet some of the other mozilla people, please bug them about the thunderbird-toolbar buttons ;) [19:10] heh, I think I have someone to bug about that [19:10] awesome! :D === J21_ is now known as J21 === micahg_ is now known as micahg