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zacariasThe "print to file" option in the "print" menu (from Firefox) is not working. When I try to save it, it says preparing, the box disappears and nothing is saved :-(01:34
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S_SubZerodoes xubuntu install by default with write access to ntfs?06:41
SysiS_SubZero: yes06:44
S_SubZerohmm hmmm i see.  Thought I did it somehow.06:45
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ochosiSysi: btw, you might be happy to hear that i implemented the "flat terminal" look in greybird (in git)08:40
Bjorn_hi, is there someone who can help me with a serious prob?10:06
well_laid_lawnBjorn_: it depends on what the problem is10:15
Bjorn_okay, i'll try to explaine10:17
Bjorn_sorry about my english sometimes, but i'm dutch10:17
Bjorn_i've a bit older computer, and i would like to install ubuntu10:20
Bjorn_i'll give some spec about it10:20
Bjorn_it's a amd 2.0Ghz 1Gb memory hdd 180Gb10:20
Bjorn_so normally it could no problem installing ubuntu10:21
Bjorn_but it's real slow10:21
Bjorn_but i mean really slow10:21
Bjorn_so tried the lightweight version Xubuntu10:22
Bjorn_it's a bit faster but still too slow when i hear people talking that you can run xubuntu on a 1Ghz an 512mb without a problem10:23
Bjorn_the say it works fast10:23
Bjorn_so i monitored some information10:23
Bjorn_the memory wasn't a problem10:24
Bjorn_stays low in use10:24
Bjorn_but when i perform some action like opening a browser fi10:24
Bjorn_my cpu goes within second to 50%10:24
Bjorn_??10:24
Bjorn_so is (x)ubuntu not compatible with this computer or is it just something wrong with some hardware?10:25
TheSheepBjorn_: what graphics card do you have?10:28
TheSheepBjorn_: you can see that with 'lspci | grep VGA' in terminal10:29
Bjorn_oh sorry forget to mention and correction of info above it's just 1.8Ghz and the graphics card is an ATI 128mb10:32
well_laid_lawnBjorn_: did you install the proprietry driver for the graphics card?10:37
Bjorn_i think so cause he can't find any additional drivers10:45
well_laid_lawnthe open source driver might be a better option10:47
Bjorn_how can i do that?10:48
well_laid_lawnI've never bothered with the proprietry drivers since I always use intel10:49
Bjorn_oh maybe this is also important, they onboard graphics cards broke, so now there's a PCI graphics cards10:49
well_laid_lawnif you have disabled the onboard in the bios then it shouldn't be affecting anything10:50
well_laid_lawnafaik pci is slower than agp10:51
Bjorn_what size of graphics card is recommended?10:52
well_laid_lawn128mb should be fine with the right driver10:53
Bjorn_i checked and the card is disabled10:58
Bjorn_and the videocard is on an AGP slot so it's not PCI just checked10:59
TheSheepBjorn_: can you check /var/log/Xorg.log and see which graphics driver it uses?11:01
Bjorn_just have the Xorg.0.log11:04
Bjorn_and the Xorg.0.log.old11:04
Bjorn_where in the Xorg.0.log can i find the driver i use11:06
TheSheepBjorn_: it gives you a detailed log where it tries to detect different drivers11:06
TheSheepBjorn_: you just need to read it, I'm afraid, I don't remember how the exact line looks like and I don't have xubuntu here to check11:07
TheSheepalternatively, maybe the 'xrandr' command will tell you what driver is being used11:08
andycIs there any way I can change the sound indicator applet in xubuntu 11.10 to take me to PulseAudio Volume Control, instead of the XFCE mixer when I select sound settings11:09
andycPulseAudio volume control is far more useful on a pulseaudio setup particularly with multiple cards/a USB headset11:09
Bjorn_TheSheep: i only see a list with al compatible resolutions and it's frequency that VGA is connected and DVI en Svideo is disconnected11:12
Bjorn_you guys could be right cause when xubuntu boots it shows first all colorized pixels and then turns in good resolution11:22
TheSheepBjorn_: if it fell back to the 'vesa' driver, it's going to be slow11:22
Bjorn_i do see some information about vesa driver11:23
TheSheep!ati11:23
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto11:23
Bjorn_there's a line : Falling back to old probe method for vesa11:24
Bjorn_so maybe tis will be the prob11:25
Bjorn_thnx ubottu i'm reading it11:25
TheSheep!bot11:26
ubottuHi! I'm #xubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots11:26
TheSheep:)11:26
Bjorn_haha i suck :D11:26
TheSheepthere is nothing wrong in being polite to a bot :)11:27
Bjorn_idd ^^11:27
Bjorn_on the info from our dear bot they say: Change Driver "ati" to "radeon" -> OK11:29
Bjorn_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsAti11:29
Bjorn_i have the ati radeon 9200 pro rv28011:29
TheSheephere is the description on how to edit your xorg.conf to force a certain driver: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto#Xorg.conf.d11:30
johnnyzeroholstein, thank you so much! :)12:11
johnnyzeroDowngrading to Ubuntu 10.10 did the trick. It was kernel 3 which was the reason why I was having loads of issues. Maybe my hardware just doesn't get along with it.12:12
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babblesigh. lag?14:39
antnashHey guys. I'm trying to install from the alternate but it's hanging after the network detection and I've just got a blue screen with a little square in the bottom left corner15:02
Sysihow long it's been like that?15:03
antnashabout 10 mins. No movement from the bar.15:03
antnashSysi, would that happen if it can't find a driver to a piece of hardware?15:11
Sysinot at that point.. I'd guess bad image/burn/cd15:12
antnashargh15:14
antnashHope this next one works, my last disc15:14
Sysiwhat kind of machine you're installing to?15:15
antnashhome built file server15:15
antnashmy board won't boot from usb either. MASSIVE pain in the arse15:17
antnashNope. Bad image I think15:22
holsteinantnash: this is kind of fun http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html15:24
holsteinassuming the USB is fast enough to use to boot, you can burn one PLOP iso image to CD, and use that to boot the machine and boot USB sticks15:24
antnashWell I'm out of discs now15:25
antnashgonna have to get some on the way back home15:26
chupito57hi15:33
chupito57i have a fresh install of xubuntu and  i will not to autolock my cdrom15:34
chupito57i have put dev.cdrom.lock=0 in sysctl.conf but it dont work15:35
chupito57can you help me?15:35
zacariasquick help: how do you view the repostories list delete a repository with the command line?15:35
holsteinzacarias: /etc/apt/source.list?15:36
holsteinyou can comment them out.. i wouldnt delete them15:37
holsteinchupito57: you mean automount?15:37
chupito57no automount15:38
chupito57i want to eject my cdrom by buton15:39
holsteinim not sure.. im letting CD's go the way floppies went... but i see some bug reports relating to dev.cdrom.lock15:40
holsteinhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devicekit-disks/+bug/397734 for example15:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 397734 in Baltix "can't eject cdrom with hardware button" [High,In progress]15:41
chupito57ok thank you15:41
chupito57in my case i can eject after command 'eject -i off'15:43
holsteinsounds like a 'work-around' to me15:43
marionhappy halloween16:14
mariondoes anyone know how to permanently mount a partition16:14
holsteinmarion: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions16:16
marionthank you holstein16:18
GridCubealso16:20
GridCube!fstab | marion16:20
ubottumarion: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions16:20
marioni pretty much want this to be done every time i boot " mount -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 /dev/sdb1 /media/c"16:24
marionis there a way to do that?16:29
Sysi!automount16:29
ubottuAutomount is the modern way to mount directories over a network. It is much easier to manage and  more economic in bandwidth than static mounts via fstab. For more info - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs16:29
Sysi!fstab16:29
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions16:29
Sysi(I've only used fstab)16:30
chupitohi16:32
GridCubehello16:33
marionSysi I installed it but i dont understand how to run it16:33
chupitoin xubuntu 11.10 i want to automount my removable media. I hve checked in system setting but nothing do16:34
Sysiread the help page16:34
Sysiusb drives should automount by default, normal xubuntu installation?16:34
marionspeaking of 11.10 is there a way to install it from the internet16:34
holsteinchupito: you can add it to fstab... its not trivial... i suggest knowing how to edit fstab from a live CD in case the machine doenst boot16:35
chupitook it is a good idea. It is for my cdrom16:36
Sysiholstein: mount -a FTW16:36
holsteini wouldnt add removables to fstab personally16:37
Sysidifferen't a16:38
Sysiguys asking you noticed?16:38
chupitoholstein: it don't work16:50
chupitountil my cdrom is mounted i can't eject16:51
chupitodo you have the same ?16:51
nilognaphey guys, what year did steve jobs invent ubuntu16:52
nilognapwhy is it free17:04
chupitogood by17:05
xrdodrxnilognap, Steve Jobs invented Ubuntu in the same year he invented the tablet computer, cell phone, television and PC :P17:10
nilognaphahaha17:11
nilognaphe was the thomas edison of our times!17:11
xrdodrxa true revolutionary17:11
Myrttinilognap: you're a boring troll, go play elsewhere17:11
nilognapMyrtti: hmm?17:12
nilognapMyrtti: are you bored?17:12
nilognapMyrtti: try trolling ubuntu fags17:12
nilognapits fun17:12
drcnow he's in -offtopic17:13
likemindeadHow do I get Jupiter to show up in my tray? It says it is whitelisted.17:31
likemindeadMeh. Just going to remove it.17:36
xrdodrxlikemindead, try adding the notification area to the panel17:36
xrdodrxor not17:36
ballDoes Xubuntu ship with some sort of podcast catcher thinggy?17:42
pangolinI just installed miro17:44
pangolinnot sure if that is what you want17:44
Myrttievince has a podcast thing, IMO17:44
PiciI thought evince was the pdf reader.17:45
Myrttievince...17:45
MyrttiEXAILE17:45
Myrttithere we go17:45
MyrttiI've been doing too much work with pdflatex17:45
ballAh, thanks.17:46
ballI don't see a tab for 'Podcasts'.  Perhaps they're tucked away under 'Radio'.17:47
Myrttiah, requires a plugin17:49
drcball you want audio or video podcasts or both?17:50
PTBDhallo. can somebody tell me which login manager is used in xubuntu?20:31
drcby default LDM20:35
PTBDdrc, thank you20:35
lrussellhello20:53
lrussellwould xubuntu 10.10 run on a pc with the following "6GB HD, 233MHZ Processor, and 384MB of ram". I don't care how fast/slow. I just wanna know if it would run.20:53
andyclrussell, The Xubuntu website seems to think so20:57
andycTry the alternate install CD20:58
andycIf I were you I would try it and see what happens - Possibly try a lighter window manager like fluxbox or openbox if it's too slow20:59
madnickthat CPU :(21:00
lrussellikr21:00
lrussell'96 pc man21:00
andycWhat is it? a PII?21:01
andycYikes must be a PI from 9621:02
lrussellyep, a PI21:03
lrussellits supposed to be a crappy home server21:03
lrussellotherwise its to the dumb21:03
lrussell*dump21:03
andycAh right21:03
andycIn that case don't worry about a window manager21:03
* lrussell wonders how well it will work21:03
lrussella server with php and asp.net21:04
lrussellI'm gonna put another hd in it i think21:04
lrusselllol21:04
lrussellis there another os lighter than xubuntu that functions similar?21:05
lrussellmaybe damn small linux21:05
lrussellbut does it run ubuntu/xubuntu software?21:05
drclrussell: Several...I'd check out Distrowatch, they have listings of most distros.21:05
lrussellkk, thanks21:06
lrussellwait, it has a PII, not 1, lol21:06
andyclrussell, if you only want a few servers running on it I'd look at debian - you'll be familar with it because it uses apt for package management, but it doesn't install a lot of the stuff that comes with xubuntu21:08
w30lrussell, lubuntu is geared toward lightness all the way not just window manager but also application choices like chrome, abiword, paint instead of firefox gimp and libreoffice. I works great on my 8.6 gig netbook (although it does have an atom cpu. not a PII)21:08
lrusselllol21:09
andycdebian server that is not the desktop version21:09
andycYou need to be pretty comfortable on a command line though21:09
lrussellim going lubuntu21:09
lrussellon my other server, its running php and abyss web server21:10
lrussellabyss is pretty good21:10
drclrussell: http://distrowatch.com/search.php?category=Old+Computers21:10
w30lrussell, I think you can get pretty much the functionality of ubuntu but you have to add it from the repos21:10
w30lrussell, carefully...21:11
lrussellcarefully what?21:11
lrussellidc about file managers or crap. it just needs to have networking and take server software21:11
w30lrussell, what you add otherwise you might as well stick with xubuntu or a non GUI server21:12
lrusselli want gui, lol21:12
drclrussell: server?  with 6gig HDD (half of which will be taken bu the OS)?  Good luck.21:12
lrusselli have external memory21:13
lrussellfor the server  data21:13
andyclrussell you don't need a window manager if all you're doing is serving a few files and running apache or lighttpd21:14
drcMy guess is:  He'll be back moaning about how slow his "server" is :)21:16
w30a few bucks or a contact at some back dock at a corporation where they are throwing out stuff might be a better use of labor hours unless you are located in Tibet21:25
yomihow can I run fsck21:35
holsteinyomi: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SystemAdministration/Fsck21:36
holsteini typically just get a live CD... something like http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/21:36
yomithank you...also...I just had to shut it down. the Caps Lock and Scroll Lock LED's were flashing, is that kernel panic?21:37
holsteinmaybe21:37
holsteindoesnt sound good... could be some hardware issue too21:37
yomiI turned it on when I had gotten back and I tried to remove a package via Synaptic, but Synaptic crashed out...then it started telling me it couldn't find any applications....then the language went all weird...blocks instead of letters. So I shut it down, and it displayed...Ext4 fs error device sda121:40
genii-aroundyomi: Yes, all three keys blinking on/off in unison is a symptom of kernel panic21:41
yomiaccording to the link I should type this "fsck -F file_system_type partition" so I put this " sudo fsck -F ext4 /dev/sda1" but it outputs the help21:46
holsteinyomi: check out http://www.howforge.com/how-force-fsck-ubuntu ... and again, i like to use a live CD for that21:48
yomiI'll try that.21:49
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yomiokay...seems stable, is there a way I can check the output of fsck?21:59
yomiwhen I try to uninstall framework-4.0.0, when I try to execute the "uninstall" from the folder,  I get this "uninstall: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected" is there a way to fix that? I still have the .run file, it outputs the same thing.22:09
holsteinyomi: from what folder?22:20
yomi/opt/22:20
holsteinif you install things that are not from the repos, its hard to say22:20
holsteintypically, you install with a package manger, and also, you can remove with a package manager22:20
holsteinyomi: how did you install it?22:20
yomifrom a .run file that I had to...chmod +x? to install it22:21
holsteinright, so there will be instructions on how to uninstall there as well22:21
babbleor libcurl, rather.22:23
babble(wrong window, sorry)22:23
yomibut if I try to use the .run file, it gives the same error as the uninstall.22:24
holsteinwhat .run?22:24
holsteinyomi: did you install? or did that fail as well?22:24
holsteinwhat are you trying to install? can you find it in the repos?22:25
holsteini suggest looking there first... going with what is in ubuntus repos first, then i typically try adding a PPA, then i go for a deb or build/install a custom package like you are using22:25
yomithis;  framework-4.0.0-linux-full.run22:25
yomiI'm trying to uninstall22:26
holsteinyomi: libmono-microsoft-build-framework4.0-cil - Mono Microsoft.Build.Framework library (for CLI 4.0) ?22:27
holsteinyomi: right... but you'll need to reference whoever maintains the package for how to remove it22:27
yomiframework for metasploit and armitage ? that's what I used it for.22:28
holsteinif you want to be doing things like that, you'll want to figure out how to remove that application22:28
holsteinit should be in the documentation somewhere22:29
holsteini do not have access to it, and its not the pacakge from the repos, so i dont konw how it works22:29
holsteinyomi: if you are running a command, and getting an error, pastebin the error22:30
yomiokay22:30
holsteinyomi: its the .run you got from here?22:31
holsteinhttp://metasploit.com/download/22:31
yomiyeah22:33
holsteinhttp://www.backtrack-linux.org/forums/beginners-forum/29888-how-uninstall-metasploit-framework.html22:34
yomiWell I've just told it to remove the directory...I'll see what happens.22:47
yomilooks like its gone.22:47
yomiThank You.22:47
astartothhi all, recently installed xubuntu via a pen drive (unetbootin) in a friends laptop. Plymouth wasn't working after the install completed, i.e., on shutdown the splash screen was shown but during boot-up it wasn't.23:46
astartothhas anyone had the same problem?23:47
madnickYes, it seems to be common23:49
madnickIt seems to happen with certain drivers23:50
astartothi think the laptop was equipped with an nvidia but i'm not sure23:50
madnickThere is, workarounds, but quite annoying work arounds :)23:51
madnickediting boot lines etc23:51
astartothis it possible to fix? or should one just disable plymouth for the time being23:51
astartoth?23:51
astartothyou mean in grub?23:51
madnickyes23:51
astartothhmm23:51
madnickI just got a question23:52
madnickWas the computer shutdown properly?23:52
astartothI might try to see what happens.. any resourse on the matter so I can test it out?23:52
astartothit was23:52
madnickoh okay23:52
madnickill look 1 sec23:52
madnickhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/54880/plymouth-and-grub-do-not-show-at-all23:54
astartothbtw, let me tell you that I was quite impressed with xubuntu. very fast install process, everything working out of the box, good looking XFCE23:54
madnickI recgonize the setup at the bottom comments23:54
madnick:)23:54
astartothah, askubuntu23:56
astartothok, I think that, by default, vt.handoff=7 is already enabled.23:59

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