[01:34] <zacarias> The "print to file" option in the "print" menu (from Firefox) is not working. When I try to save it, it says preparing, the box disappears and nothing is saved :-(
[06:41] <S_SubZero> does xubuntu install by default with write access to ntfs?
[06:44] <Sysi> S_SubZero: yes
[06:45] <S_SubZero> hmm hmmm i see.  Thought I did it somehow.
[08:40] <ochosi> Sysi: btw, you might be happy to hear that i implemented the "flat terminal" look in greybird (in git)
[10:06] <Bjorn_> hi, is there someone who can help me with a serious prob?
[10:15] <well_laid_lawn> Bjorn_: it depends on what the problem is
[10:17] <Bjorn_> okay, i'll try to explaine
[10:17] <Bjorn_> sorry about my english sometimes, but i'm dutch
[10:20] <Bjorn_> i've a bit older computer, and i would like to install ubuntu
[10:20] <Bjorn_> i'll give some spec about it
[10:20] <Bjorn_> it's a amd 2.0Ghz 1Gb memory hdd 180Gb
[10:21] <Bjorn_> so normally it could no problem installing ubuntu
[10:21] <Bjorn_> but it's real slow
[10:21] <Bjorn_> but i mean really slow
[10:22] <Bjorn_> so tried the lightweight version Xubuntu
[10:23] <Bjorn_> it's a bit faster but still too slow when i hear people talking that you can run xubuntu on a 1Ghz an 512mb without a problem
[10:23] <Bjorn_> the say it works fast
[10:23] <Bjorn_> so i monitored some information
[10:24] <Bjorn_> the memory wasn't a problem
[10:24] <Bjorn_> stays low in use
[10:24] <Bjorn_> but when i perform some action like opening a browser fi
[10:24] <Bjorn_> my cpu goes within second to 50%
[10:24] <Bjorn_> ??
[10:25] <Bjorn_> so is (x)ubuntu not compatible with this computer or is it just something wrong with some hardware?
[10:28] <TheSheep> Bjorn_: what graphics card do you have?
[10:29] <TheSheep> Bjorn_: you can see that with 'lspci | grep VGA' in terminal
[10:32] <Bjorn_> oh sorry forget to mention and correction of info above it's just 1.8Ghz and the graphics card is an ATI 128mb
[10:37] <well_laid_lawn> Bjorn_: did you install the proprietry driver for the graphics card?
[10:45] <Bjorn_> i think so cause he can't find any additional drivers
[10:47] <well_laid_lawn> the open source driver might be a better option
[10:48] <Bjorn_> how can i do that?
[10:49] <well_laid_lawn> I've never bothered with the proprietry drivers since I always use intel
[10:49] <Bjorn_> oh maybe this is also important, they onboard graphics cards broke, so now there's a PCI graphics cards
[10:50] <well_laid_lawn> if you have disabled the onboard in the bios then it shouldn't be affecting anything
[10:51] <well_laid_lawn> afaik pci is slower than agp
[10:52] <Bjorn_> what size of graphics card is recommended?
[10:53] <well_laid_lawn> 128mb should be fine with the right driver
[10:58] <Bjorn_> i checked and the card is disabled
[10:59] <Bjorn_> and the videocard is on an AGP slot so it's not PCI just checked
[11:01] <TheSheep> Bjorn_: can you check /var/log/Xorg.log and see which graphics driver it uses?
[11:04] <Bjorn_> just have the Xorg.0.log
[11:04] <Bjorn_> and the Xorg.0.log.old
[11:06] <Bjorn_> where in the Xorg.0.log can i find the driver i use
[11:06] <TheSheep> Bjorn_: it gives you a detailed log where it tries to detect different drivers
[11:07] <TheSheep> Bjorn_: you just need to read it, I'm afraid, I don't remember how the exact line looks like and I don't have xubuntu here to check
[11:08] <TheSheep> alternatively, maybe the 'xrandr' command will tell you what driver is being used
[11:09] <andyc> Is there any way I can change the sound indicator applet in xubuntu 11.10 to take me to PulseAudio Volume Control, instead of the XFCE mixer when I select sound settings
[11:09] <andyc> PulseAudio volume control is far more useful on a pulseaudio setup particularly with multiple cards/a USB headset
[11:12] <Bjorn_> TheSheep: i only see a list with al compatible resolutions and it's frequency that VGA is connected and DVI en Svideo is disconnected
[11:22] <Bjorn_> you guys could be right cause when xubuntu boots it shows first all colorized pixels and then turns in good resolution
[11:22] <TheSheep> Bjorn_: if it fell back to the 'vesa' driver, it's going to be slow
[11:23] <Bjorn_> i do see some information about vesa driver
[11:23] <TheSheep> !ati
[11:24] <Bjorn_> there's a line : Falling back to old probe method for vesa
[11:25] <Bjorn_> so maybe tis will be the prob
[11:25] <Bjorn_> thnx ubottu i'm reading it
[11:26] <TheSheep> !bot
[11:26] <TheSheep> :)
[11:26] <Bjorn_> haha i suck :D
[11:27] <TheSheep> there is nothing wrong in being polite to a bot :)
[11:27] <Bjorn_> idd ^^
[11:29] <Bjorn_> on the info from our dear bot they say: Change Driver "ati" to "radeon" -> OK
[11:29] <Bjorn_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsAti
[11:29] <Bjorn_> i have the ati radeon 9200 pro rv280
[11:30] <TheSheep> here is the description on how to edit your xorg.conf to force a certain driver: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto#Xorg.conf.d
[12:11] <johnnyzero> holstein, thank you so much! :)
[12:12] <johnnyzero> Downgrading to Ubuntu 10.10 did the trick. It was kernel 3 which was the reason why I was having loads of issues. Maybe my hardware just doesn't get along with it.
[14:39] <babble> sigh. lag?
[15:02] <antnash> Hey guys. I'm trying to install from the alternate but it's hanging after the network detection and I've just got a blue screen with a little square in the bottom left corner
[15:03] <Sysi> how long it's been like that?
[15:03] <antnash> about 10 mins. No movement from the bar.
[15:11] <antnash> Sysi, would that happen if it can't find a driver to a piece of hardware?
[15:12] <Sysi> not at that point.. I'd guess bad image/burn/cd
[15:14] <antnash> argh
[15:14] <antnash> Hope this next one works, my last disc
[15:15] <Sysi> what kind of machine you're installing to?
[15:15] <antnash> home built file server
[15:17] <antnash> my board won't boot from usb either. MASSIVE pain in the arse
[15:22] <antnash> Nope. Bad image I think
[15:24] <holstein> antnash: this is kind of fun http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html
[15:24] <holstein> assuming the USB is fast enough to use to boot, you can burn one PLOP iso image to CD, and use that to boot the machine and boot USB sticks
[15:25] <antnash> Well I'm out of discs now
[15:26] <antnash> gonna have to get some on the way back home
[15:33] <chupito57> hi
[15:34] <chupito57> i have a fresh install of xubuntu and  i will not to autolock my cdrom
[15:35] <chupito57> i have put dev.cdrom.lock=0 in sysctl.conf but it dont work
[15:35] <chupito57> can you help me?
[15:35] <zacarias> quick help: how do you view the repostories list delete a repository with the command line?
[15:36] <holstein> zacarias: /etc/apt/source.list?
[15:37] <holstein> you can comment them out.. i wouldnt delete them
[15:37] <holstein> chupito57: you mean automount?
[15:38] <chupito57> no automount
[15:39] <chupito57> i want to eject my cdrom by buton
[15:40] <holstein> im not sure.. im letting CD's go the way floppies went... but i see some bug reports relating to dev.cdrom.lock
[15:41] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devicekit-disks/+bug/397734 for example
[15:41] <chupito57> ok thank you
[15:43] <chupito57> in my case i can eject after command 'eject -i off'
[15:43] <holstein> sounds like a 'work-around' to me
[16:14] <marion> happy halloween
[16:14] <marion> does anyone know how to permanently mount a partition
[16:16] <holstein> marion: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[16:18] <marion> thank you holstein
[16:20] <GridCube> also
[16:20] <GridCube> !fstab | marion
[16:24] <marion> i pretty much want this to be done every time i boot " mount -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 /dev/sdb1 /media/c"
[16:29] <marion> is there a way to do that?
[16:29] <Sysi> !automount
[16:29] <Sysi> !fstab
[16:30] <Sysi> (I've only used fstab)
[16:32] <chupito> hi
[16:33] <GridCube> hello
[16:33] <marion> Sysi I installed it but i dont understand how to run it
[16:34] <chupito> in xubuntu 11.10 i want to automount my removable media. I hve checked in system setting but nothing do
[16:34] <Sysi> read the help page
[16:34] <Sysi> usb drives should automount by default, normal xubuntu installation?
[16:34] <marion> speaking of 11.10 is there a way to install it from the internet
[16:35] <holstein> chupito: you can add it to fstab... its not trivial... i suggest knowing how to edit fstab from a live CD in case the machine doenst boot
[16:36] <chupito> ok it is a good idea. It is for my cdrom
[16:36] <Sysi> holstein: mount -a FTW
[16:37] <holstein> i wouldnt add removables to fstab personally
[16:38] <Sysi> differen't a
[16:38] <Sysi> guys asking you noticed?
[16:50] <chupito> holstein: it don't work
[16:51] <chupito> until my cdrom is mounted i can't eject
[16:51] <chupito> do you have the same ?
[16:52] <nilognap> hey guys, what year did steve jobs invent ubuntu
[17:04] <nilognap> why is it free
[17:05] <chupito> good by
[17:10] <xrdodrx> nilognap, Steve Jobs invented Ubuntu in the same year he invented the tablet computer, cell phone, television and PC :P
[17:11] <nilognap> hahaha
[17:11] <nilognap> he was the thomas edison of our times!
[17:11] <xrdodrx> a true revolutionary
[17:11] <Myrtti> nilognap: you're a boring troll, go play elsewhere
[17:12] <nilognap> Myrtti: hmm?
[17:12] <nilognap> Myrtti: are you bored?
[17:12] <nilognap> Myrtti: try trolling ubuntu fags
[17:12] <nilognap> its fun
[17:13] <drc> now he's in -offtopic
[17:31] <likemindead> How do I get Jupiter to show up in my tray? It says it is whitelisted.
[17:36] <likemindead> Meh. Just going to remove it.
[17:36] <xrdodrx> likemindead, try adding the notification area to the panel
[17:36] <xrdodrx> or not
[17:42] <ball> Does Xubuntu ship with some sort of podcast catcher thinggy?
[17:44] <pangolin> I just installed miro
[17:44] <pangolin> not sure if that is what you want
[17:44] <Myrtti> evince has a podcast thing, IMO
[17:45] <Pici> I thought evince was the pdf reader.
[17:45] <Myrtti> evince...
[17:45] <Myrtti> EXAILE
[17:45] <Myrtti> there we go
[17:45] <Myrtti> I've been doing too much work with pdflatex
[17:46] <ball> Ah, thanks.
[17:47] <ball> I don't see a tab for 'Podcasts'.  Perhaps they're tucked away under 'Radio'.
[17:49] <Myrtti> ah, requires a plugin
[17:50] <drc> ball you want audio or video podcasts or both?
[20:31] <PTBD> hallo. can somebody tell me which login manager is used in xubuntu?
[20:35] <drc> by default LDM
[20:35] <PTBD> drc, thank you
[20:53] <lrussell> hello
[20:53] <lrussell> would xubuntu 10.10 run on a pc with the following "6GB HD, 233MHZ Processor, and 384MB of ram". I don't care how fast/slow. I just wanna know if it would run.
[20:57] <andyc> lrussell, The Xubuntu website seems to think so
[20:58] <andyc> Try the alternate install CD
[20:59] <andyc> If I were you I would try it and see what happens - Possibly try a lighter window manager like fluxbox or openbox if it's too slow
[21:00] <madnick> that CPU :(
[21:00] <lrussell> ikr
[21:00] <lrussell> '96 pc man
[21:01] <andyc> What is it? a PII?
[21:02] <andyc> Yikes must be a PI from 96
[21:03] <lrussell> yep, a PI
[21:03] <lrussell> its supposed to be a crappy home server
[21:03] <lrussell> otherwise its to the dumb
[21:03] <lrussell> *dump
[21:03] <andyc> Ah right
[21:03] <andyc> In that case don't worry about a window manager
[21:03]  * lrussell wonders how well it will work
[21:04] <lrussell> a server with php and asp.net
[21:04] <lrussell> I'm gonna put another hd in it i think
[21:04] <lrussell> lol
[21:05] <lrussell> is there another os lighter than xubuntu that functions similar?
[21:05] <lrussell> maybe damn small linux
[21:05] <lrussell> but does it run ubuntu/xubuntu software?
[21:05] <drc> lrussell: Several...I'd check out Distrowatch, they have listings of most distros.
[21:06] <lrussell> kk, thanks
[21:06] <lrussell> wait, it has a PII, not 1, lol
[21:08] <andyc> lrussell, if you only want a few servers running on it I'd look at debian - you'll be familar with it because it uses apt for package management, but it doesn't install a lot of the stuff that comes with xubuntu
[21:08] <w30> lrussell, lubuntu is geared toward lightness all the way not just window manager but also application choices like chrome, abiword, paint instead of firefox gimp and libreoffice. I works great on my 8.6 gig netbook (although it does have an atom cpu. not a PII)
[21:09] <lrussell> lol
[21:09] <andyc> debian server that is not the desktop version
[21:09] <andyc> You need to be pretty comfortable on a command line though
[21:09] <lrussell> im going lubuntu
[21:10] <lrussell> on my other server, its running php and abyss web server
[21:10] <lrussell> abyss is pretty good
[21:10] <drc> lrussell: http://distrowatch.com/search.php?category=Old+Computers
[21:10] <w30> lrussell, I think you can get pretty much the functionality of ubuntu but you have to add it from the repos
[21:11] <w30> lrussell, carefully...
[21:11] <lrussell> carefully what?
[21:11] <lrussell> idc about file managers or crap. it just needs to have networking and take server software
[21:12] <w30> lrussell, what you add otherwise you might as well stick with xubuntu or a non GUI server
[21:12] <lrussell> i want gui, lol
[21:12] <drc> lrussell: server?  with 6gig HDD (half of which will be taken bu the OS)?  Good luck.
[21:13] <lrussell> i have external memory
[21:13] <lrussell> for the server  data
[21:14] <andyc> lrussell you don't need a window manager if all you're doing is serving a few files and running apache or lighttpd
[21:16] <drc> My guess is:  He'll be back moaning about how slow his "server" is :)
[21:25] <w30> a few bucks or a contact at some back dock at a corporation where they are throwing out stuff might be a better use of labor hours unless you are located in Tibet
[21:35] <yomi> how can I run fsck
[21:36] <holstein> yomi: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SystemAdministration/Fsck
[21:36] <holstein> i typically just get a live CD... something like http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[21:37] <yomi> thank you...also...I just had to shut it down. the Caps Lock and Scroll Lock LED's were flashing, is that kernel panic?
[21:37] <holstein> maybe
[21:37] <holstein> doesnt sound good... could be some hardware issue too
[21:40] <yomi> I turned it on when I had gotten back and I tried to remove a package via Synaptic, but Synaptic crashed out...then it started telling me it couldn't find any applications....then the language went all weird...blocks instead of letters. So I shut it down, and it displayed...Ext4 fs error device sda1
[21:41] <genii-around> yomi: Yes, all three keys blinking on/off in unison is a symptom of kernel panic
[21:46] <yomi> according to the link I should type this "fsck -F file_system_type partition" so I put this " sudo fsck -F ext4 /dev/sda1" but it outputs the help
[21:48] <holstein> yomi: check out http://www.howforge.com/how-force-fsck-ubuntu ... and again, i like to use a live CD for that
[21:49] <yomi> I'll try that.
[21:59] <yomi> okay...seems stable, is there a way I can check the output of fsck?
[22:09] <yomi> when I try to uninstall framework-4.0.0, when I try to execute the "uninstall" from the folder,  I get this "uninstall: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected" is there a way to fix that? I still have the .run file, it outputs the same thing.
[22:20] <holstein> yomi: from what folder?
[22:20] <yomi> /opt/
[22:20] <holstein> if you install things that are not from the repos, its hard to say
[22:20] <holstein> typically, you install with a package manger, and also, you can remove with a package manager
[22:20] <holstein> yomi: how did you install it?
[22:21] <yomi> from a .run file that I had to...chmod +x? to install it
[22:21] <holstein> right, so there will be instructions on how to uninstall there as well
[22:23] <babble> or libcurl, rather.
[22:23] <babble> (wrong window, sorry)
[22:24] <yomi> but if I try to use the .run file, it gives the same error as the uninstall.
[22:24] <holstein> what .run?
[22:24] <holstein> yomi: did you install? or did that fail as well?
[22:25] <holstein> what are you trying to install? can you find it in the repos?
[22:25] <holstein> i suggest looking there first... going with what is in ubuntus repos first, then i typically try adding a PPA, then i go for a deb or build/install a custom package like you are using
[22:25] <yomi> this;  framework-4.0.0-linux-full.run
[22:26] <yomi> I'm trying to uninstall
[22:27] <holstein> yomi: libmono-microsoft-build-framework4.0-cil - Mono Microsoft.Build.Framework library (for CLI 4.0) ?
[22:27] <holstein> yomi: right... but you'll need to reference whoever maintains the package for how to remove it
[22:28] <yomi> framework for metasploit and armitage ? that's what I used it for.
[22:28] <holstein> if you want to be doing things like that, you'll want to figure out how to remove that application
[22:29] <holstein> it should be in the documentation somewhere
[22:29] <holstein> i do not have access to it, and its not the pacakge from the repos, so i dont konw how it works
[22:30] <holstein> yomi: if you are running a command, and getting an error, pastebin the error
[22:30] <yomi> okay
[22:31] <holstein> yomi: its the .run you got from here?
[22:31] <holstein> http://metasploit.com/download/
[22:33] <yomi> yeah
[22:34] <holstein> http://www.backtrack-linux.org/forums/beginners-forum/29888-how-uninstall-metasploit-framework.html
[22:47] <yomi> Well I've just told it to remove the directory...I'll see what happens.
[22:47] <yomi> looks like its gone.
[22:47] <yomi> Thank You.
[23:46] <astartoth> hi all, recently installed xubuntu via a pen drive (unetbootin) in a friends laptop. Plymouth wasn't working after the install completed, i.e., on shutdown the splash screen was shown but during boot-up it wasn't.
[23:47] <astartoth> has anyone had the same problem?
[23:49] <madnick> Yes, it seems to be common
[23:50] <madnick> It seems to happen with certain drivers
[23:50] <astartoth> i think the laptop was equipped with an nvidia but i'm not sure
[23:51] <madnick> There is, workarounds, but quite annoying work arounds :)
[23:51] <madnick> editing boot lines etc
[23:51] <astartoth> is it possible to fix? or should one just disable plymouth for the time being
[23:51] <astartoth> ?
[23:51] <astartoth> you mean in grub?
[23:51] <madnick> yes
[23:51] <astartoth> hmm
[23:52] <madnick> I just got a question
[23:52] <madnick> Was the computer shutdown properly?
[23:52] <astartoth> I might try to see what happens.. any resourse on the matter so I can test it out?
[23:52] <astartoth> it was
[23:52] <madnick> oh okay
[23:52] <madnick> ill look 1 sec
[23:54] <madnick> http://askubuntu.com/questions/54880/plymouth-and-grub-do-not-show-at-all
[23:54] <astartoth> btw, let me tell you that I was quite impressed with xubuntu. very fast install process, everything working out of the box, good looking XFCE
[23:54] <madnick> I recgonize the setup at the bottom comments
[23:54] <madnick> :)
[23:56] <astartoth> ah, askubuntu
[23:59] <astartoth> ok, I think that, by default, vt.handoff=7 is already enabled.