[01:34] The "print to file" option in the "print" menu (from Firefox) is not working. When I try to save it, it says preparing, the box disappears and nothing is saved :-( === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [06:41] does xubuntu install by default with write access to ntfs? [06:44] S_SubZero: yes [06:45] hmm hmmm i see. Thought I did it somehow. === antnash_ is now known as antnash [08:40] Sysi: btw, you might be happy to hear that i implemented the "flat terminal" look in greybird (in git) [10:06] hi, is there someone who can help me with a serious prob? [10:15] Bjorn_: it depends on what the problem is [10:17] okay, i'll try to explaine [10:17] sorry about my english sometimes, but i'm dutch [10:20] i've a bit older computer, and i would like to install ubuntu [10:20] i'll give some spec about it [10:20] it's a amd 2.0Ghz 1Gb memory hdd 180Gb [10:21] so normally it could no problem installing ubuntu [10:21] but it's real slow [10:21] but i mean really slow [10:22] so tried the lightweight version Xubuntu [10:23] it's a bit faster but still too slow when i hear people talking that you can run xubuntu on a 1Ghz an 512mb without a problem [10:23] the say it works fast [10:23] so i monitored some information [10:24] the memory wasn't a problem [10:24] stays low in use [10:24] but when i perform some action like opening a browser fi [10:24] my cpu goes within second to 50% [10:24] ?? [10:25] so is (x)ubuntu not compatible with this computer or is it just something wrong with some hardware? [10:28] Bjorn_: what graphics card do you have? [10:29] Bjorn_: you can see that with 'lspci | grep VGA' in terminal [10:32] oh sorry forget to mention and correction of info above it's just 1.8Ghz and the graphics card is an ATI 128mb [10:37] Bjorn_: did you install the proprietry driver for the graphics card? [10:45] i think so cause he can't find any additional drivers [10:47] the open source driver might be a better option [10:48] how can i do that? [10:49] I've never bothered with the proprietry drivers since I always use intel [10:49] oh maybe this is also important, they onboard graphics cards broke, so now there's a PCI graphics cards [10:50] if you have disabled the onboard in the bios then it shouldn't be affecting anything [10:51] afaik pci is slower than agp [10:52] what size of graphics card is recommended? [10:53] 128mb should be fine with the right driver [10:58] i checked and the card is disabled [10:59] and the videocard is on an AGP slot so it's not PCI just checked [11:01] Bjorn_: can you check /var/log/Xorg.log and see which graphics driver it uses? [11:04] just have the Xorg.0.log [11:04] and the Xorg.0.log.old [11:06] where in the Xorg.0.log can i find the driver i use [11:06] Bjorn_: it gives you a detailed log where it tries to detect different drivers [11:07] Bjorn_: you just need to read it, I'm afraid, I don't remember how the exact line looks like and I don't have xubuntu here to check [11:08] alternatively, maybe the 'xrandr' command will tell you what driver is being used [11:09] Is there any way I can change the sound indicator applet in xubuntu 11.10 to take me to PulseAudio Volume Control, instead of the XFCE mixer when I select sound settings [11:09] PulseAudio volume control is far more useful on a pulseaudio setup particularly with multiple cards/a USB headset [11:12] TheSheep: i only see a list with al compatible resolutions and it's frequency that VGA is connected and DVI en Svideo is disconnected [11:22] you guys could be right cause when xubuntu boots it shows first all colorized pixels and then turns in good resolution [11:22] Bjorn_: if it fell back to the 'vesa' driver, it's going to be slow [11:23] i do see some information about vesa driver [11:23] !ati [11:23] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [11:24] there's a line : Falling back to old probe method for vesa [11:25] so maybe tis will be the prob [11:25] thnx ubottu i'm reading it [11:26] !bot [11:26] Hi! I'm #xubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [11:26] :) [11:26] haha i suck :D [11:27] there is nothing wrong in being polite to a bot :) [11:27] idd ^^ [11:29] on the info from our dear bot they say: Change Driver "ati" to "radeon" -> OK [11:29] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsAti [11:29] i have the ati radeon 9200 pro rv280 [11:30] here is the description on how to edit your xorg.conf to force a certain driver: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto#Xorg.conf.d [12:11] holstein, thank you so much! :) [12:12] Downgrading to Ubuntu 10.10 did the trick. It was kernel 3 which was the reason why I was having loads of issues. Maybe my hardware just doesn't get along with it. === holstein_ is now known as holstein [14:39] sigh. lag? [15:02] Hey guys. I'm trying to install from the alternate but it's hanging after the network detection and I've just got a blue screen with a little square in the bottom left corner [15:03] how long it's been like that? [15:03] about 10 mins. No movement from the bar. [15:11] Sysi, would that happen if it can't find a driver to a piece of hardware? [15:12] not at that point.. I'd guess bad image/burn/cd [15:14] argh [15:14] Hope this next one works, my last disc [15:15] what kind of machine you're installing to? [15:15] home built file server [15:17] my board won't boot from usb either. MASSIVE pain in the arse [15:22] Nope. Bad image I think [15:24] antnash: this is kind of fun http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html [15:24] assuming the USB is fast enough to use to boot, you can burn one PLOP iso image to CD, and use that to boot the machine and boot USB sticks [15:25] Well I'm out of discs now [15:26] gonna have to get some on the way back home [15:33] hi [15:34] i have a fresh install of xubuntu and i will not to autolock my cdrom [15:35] i have put dev.cdrom.lock=0 in sysctl.conf but it dont work [15:35] can you help me? [15:35] quick help: how do you view the repostories list delete a repository with the command line? [15:36] zacarias: /etc/apt/source.list? [15:37] you can comment them out.. i wouldnt delete them [15:37] chupito57: you mean automount? [15:38] no automount [15:39] i want to eject my cdrom by buton [15:40] im not sure.. im letting CD's go the way floppies went... but i see some bug reports relating to dev.cdrom.lock [15:41] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devicekit-disks/+bug/397734 for example [15:41] Launchpad bug 397734 in Baltix "can't eject cdrom with hardware button" [High,In progress] [15:41] ok thank you [15:43] in my case i can eject after command 'eject -i off' [15:43] sounds like a 'work-around' to me [16:14] happy halloween [16:14] does anyone know how to permanently mount a partition [16:16] marion: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions [16:18] thank you holstein [16:20] also [16:20] !fstab | marion [16:20] marion: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions [16:24] i pretty much want this to be done every time i boot " mount -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 /dev/sdb1 /media/c" [16:29] is there a way to do that? [16:29] !automount [16:29] Automount is the modern way to mount directories over a network. It is much easier to manage and more economic in bandwidth than static mounts via fstab. For more info - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs [16:29] !fstab [16:29] The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions [16:30] (I've only used fstab) [16:32] hi [16:33] hello [16:33] Sysi I installed it but i dont understand how to run it [16:34] in xubuntu 11.10 i want to automount my removable media. I hve checked in system setting but nothing do [16:34] read the help page [16:34] usb drives should automount by default, normal xubuntu installation? [16:34] speaking of 11.10 is there a way to install it from the internet [16:35] chupito: you can add it to fstab... its not trivial... i suggest knowing how to edit fstab from a live CD in case the machine doenst boot [16:36] ok it is a good idea. It is for my cdrom [16:36] holstein: mount -a FTW [16:37] i wouldnt add removables to fstab personally [16:38] differen't a [16:38] guys asking you noticed? [16:50] holstein: it don't work [16:51] until my cdrom is mounted i can't eject [16:51] do you have the same ? [16:52] hey guys, what year did steve jobs invent ubuntu [17:04] why is it free [17:05] good by [17:10] nilognap, Steve Jobs invented Ubuntu in the same year he invented the tablet computer, cell phone, television and PC :P [17:11] hahaha [17:11] he was the thomas edison of our times! [17:11] a true revolutionary [17:11] nilognap: you're a boring troll, go play elsewhere [17:12] Myrtti: hmm? [17:12] Myrtti: are you bored? [17:12] Myrtti: try trolling ubuntu fags [17:12] its fun [17:13] now he's in -offtopic [17:31] How do I get Jupiter to show up in my tray? It says it is whitelisted. [17:36] Meh. Just going to remove it. [17:36] likemindead, try adding the notification area to the panel [17:36] or not [17:42] Does Xubuntu ship with some sort of podcast catcher thinggy? [17:44] I just installed miro [17:44] not sure if that is what you want [17:44] evince has a podcast thing, IMO [17:45] I thought evince was the pdf reader. [17:45] evince... [17:45] EXAILE [17:45] there we go [17:45] I've been doing too much work with pdflatex [17:46] Ah, thanks. [17:47] I don't see a tab for 'Podcasts'. Perhaps they're tucked away under 'Radio'. [17:49] ah, requires a plugin [17:50] ball you want audio or video podcasts or both? [20:31] hallo. can somebody tell me which login manager is used in xubuntu? [20:35] by default LDM [20:35] drc, thank you [20:53] hello [20:53] would xubuntu 10.10 run on a pc with the following "6GB HD, 233MHZ Processor, and 384MB of ram". I don't care how fast/slow. I just wanna know if it would run. [20:57] lrussell, The Xubuntu website seems to think so [20:58] Try the alternate install CD [20:59] If I were you I would try it and see what happens - Possibly try a lighter window manager like fluxbox or openbox if it's too slow [21:00] that CPU :( [21:00] ikr [21:00] '96 pc man [21:01] What is it? a PII? [21:02] Yikes must be a PI from 96 [21:03] yep, a PI [21:03] its supposed to be a crappy home server [21:03] otherwise its to the dumb [21:03] *dump [21:03] Ah right [21:03] In that case don't worry about a window manager [21:03] * lrussell wonders how well it will work [21:04] a server with php and asp.net [21:04] I'm gonna put another hd in it i think [21:04] lol [21:05] is there another os lighter than xubuntu that functions similar? [21:05] maybe damn small linux [21:05] but does it run ubuntu/xubuntu software? [21:05] lrussell: Several...I'd check out Distrowatch, they have listings of most distros. [21:06] kk, thanks [21:06] wait, it has a PII, not 1, lol [21:08] lrussell, if you only want a few servers running on it I'd look at debian - you'll be familar with it because it uses apt for package management, but it doesn't install a lot of the stuff that comes with xubuntu [21:08] lrussell, lubuntu is geared toward lightness all the way not just window manager but also application choices like chrome, abiword, paint instead of firefox gimp and libreoffice. I works great on my 8.6 gig netbook (although it does have an atom cpu. not a PII) [21:09] lol [21:09] debian server that is not the desktop version [21:09] You need to be pretty comfortable on a command line though [21:09] im going lubuntu [21:10] on my other server, its running php and abyss web server [21:10] abyss is pretty good [21:10] lrussell: http://distrowatch.com/search.php?category=Old+Computers [21:10] lrussell, I think you can get pretty much the functionality of ubuntu but you have to add it from the repos [21:11] lrussell, carefully... [21:11] carefully what? [21:11] idc about file managers or crap. it just needs to have networking and take server software [21:12] lrussell, what you add otherwise you might as well stick with xubuntu or a non GUI server [21:12] i want gui, lol [21:12] lrussell: server? with 6gig HDD (half of which will be taken bu the OS)? Good luck. [21:13] i have external memory [21:13] for the server data [21:14] lrussell you don't need a window manager if all you're doing is serving a few files and running apache or lighttpd [21:16] My guess is: He'll be back moaning about how slow his "server" is :) [21:25] a few bucks or a contact at some back dock at a corporation where they are throwing out stuff might be a better use of labor hours unless you are located in Tibet [21:35] how can I run fsck [21:36] yomi: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SystemAdministration/Fsck [21:36] i typically just get a live CD... something like http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ [21:37] thank you...also...I just had to shut it down. the Caps Lock and Scroll Lock LED's were flashing, is that kernel panic? [21:37] maybe [21:37] doesnt sound good... could be some hardware issue too [21:40] I turned it on when I had gotten back and I tried to remove a package via Synaptic, but Synaptic crashed out...then it started telling me it couldn't find any applications....then the language went all weird...blocks instead of letters. So I shut it down, and it displayed...Ext4 fs error device sda1 [21:41] yomi: Yes, all three keys blinking on/off in unison is a symptom of kernel panic [21:46] according to the link I should type this "fsck -F file_system_type partition" so I put this " sudo fsck -F ext4 /dev/sda1" but it outputs the help [21:48] yomi: check out http://www.howforge.com/how-force-fsck-ubuntu ... and again, i like to use a live CD for that [21:49] I'll try that. === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [21:59] okay...seems stable, is there a way I can check the output of fsck? [22:09] when I try to uninstall framework-4.0.0, when I try to execute the "uninstall" from the folder, I get this "uninstall: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected" is there a way to fix that? I still have the .run file, it outputs the same thing. [22:20] yomi: from what folder? [22:20] /opt/ [22:20] if you install things that are not from the repos, its hard to say [22:20] typically, you install with a package manger, and also, you can remove with a package manager [22:20] yomi: how did you install it? [22:21] from a .run file that I had to...chmod +x? to install it [22:21] right, so there will be instructions on how to uninstall there as well [22:23] or libcurl, rather. [22:23] (wrong window, sorry) [22:24] but if I try to use the .run file, it gives the same error as the uninstall. [22:24] what .run? [22:24] yomi: did you install? or did that fail as well? [22:25] what are you trying to install? can you find it in the repos? [22:25] i suggest looking there first... going with what is in ubuntus repos first, then i typically try adding a PPA, then i go for a deb or build/install a custom package like you are using [22:25] this; framework-4.0.0-linux-full.run [22:26] I'm trying to uninstall [22:27] yomi: libmono-microsoft-build-framework4.0-cil - Mono Microsoft.Build.Framework library (for CLI 4.0) ? [22:27] yomi: right... but you'll need to reference whoever maintains the package for how to remove it [22:28] framework for metasploit and armitage ? that's what I used it for. [22:28] if you want to be doing things like that, you'll want to figure out how to remove that application [22:29] it should be in the documentation somewhere [22:29] i do not have access to it, and its not the pacakge from the repos, so i dont konw how it works [22:30] yomi: if you are running a command, and getting an error, pastebin the error [22:30] okay [22:31] yomi: its the .run you got from here? [22:31] http://metasploit.com/download/ [22:33] yeah [22:34] http://www.backtrack-linux.org/forums/beginners-forum/29888-how-uninstall-metasploit-framework.html [22:47] Well I've just told it to remove the directory...I'll see what happens. [22:47] looks like its gone. [22:47] Thank You. [23:46] hi all, recently installed xubuntu via a pen drive (unetbootin) in a friends laptop. Plymouth wasn't working after the install completed, i.e., on shutdown the splash screen was shown but during boot-up it wasn't. [23:47] has anyone had the same problem? [23:49] Yes, it seems to be common [23:50] It seems to happen with certain drivers [23:50] i think the laptop was equipped with an nvidia but i'm not sure [23:51] There is, workarounds, but quite annoying work arounds :) [23:51] editing boot lines etc [23:51] is it possible to fix? or should one just disable plymouth for the time being [23:51] ? [23:51] you mean in grub? [23:51] yes [23:51] hmm [23:52] I just got a question [23:52] Was the computer shutdown properly? [23:52] I might try to see what happens.. any resourse on the matter so I can test it out? [23:52] it was [23:52] oh okay [23:52] ill look 1 sec [23:54] http://askubuntu.com/questions/54880/plymouth-and-grub-do-not-show-at-all [23:54] btw, let me tell you that I was quite impressed with xubuntu. very fast install process, everything working out of the box, good looking XFCE [23:54] I recgonize the setup at the bottom comments [23:54] :) [23:56] ah, askubuntu [23:59] ok, I think that, by default, vt.handoff=7 is already enabled.