| neale | I just did a "bzr co lp:mixxx/1.10" and it put it in ./1.10/mixxx. Is there a way to get that into ./mixxx instead, without doing a new 15-minute checkout? | 03:09 |
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| lifeless | mv 1.10/mixxx ./mixxx | 03:09 |
| neale | that would lose 1.10/.bzr though; wouldn't that be, like, bad? | 03:10 |
| lifeless | is 1.10 a shared repo ? | 03:10 |
| neale | I don't know what that means, sorry. | 03:10 |
| lifeless | if so then: | 03:10 |
| lifeless | neale: can you run bzr info 1.10/mixxx | 03:10 |
| lifeless | neale: and pastebin ? | 03:10 |
| neale | sure | 03:10 |
| neale | http://woozle.org/~neale/tmp/pb.txt | 03:11 |
| lifeless | neale: that looks like its entirely independent to me | 03:11 |
| lifeless | neale: try mving it | 03:11 |
| lifeless | neale: if you can run bzr log afterwards, its ok. | 03:12 |
| lifeless | neale: if you can't, mv it back. | 03:12 |
| neale | so I did "mv 1.10/mixxx . && cd mixxx ** bzr log" | 03:12 |
| neale | and it said: bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "/home/neale/src/mixxx/". | 03:12 |
| neale | so, apparently it's not. | 03:12 |
| lifeless | oh, I see whats going on | 03:13 |
| lifeless | the thing you checked out has the 1.10 directory in it ? odd | 03:13 |
| neale | yeah, 1.10 is the top level directory | 03:13 |
| lifeless | so put the mixx back | 03:13 |
| lifeless | then | 03:13 |
| lifeless | mv 1.10 mixxx | 03:14 |
| lifeless | that won't get rid of the included subdir that is on LP | 03:14 |
| neale | right, that's what I want to do. | 03:14 |
| lifeless | if you are a developer of it you can remove that | 03:14 |
| lifeless | its a versioned directory: | 03:15 |
| neale | oh, that's in the upstream source that way? | 03:15 |
| lifeless | bzr mv mixxx/* . | 03:15 |
| lifeless | bzr rm --delete mixxx | 03:15 |
| lifeless | bzr commit -m "move everything to the root" | 03:15 |
| lifeless | would accomplish this, if you want to do that | 03:15 |
| lifeless | yeah - you can see http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mixxxdevelopers/mixxx/release-1.10.x/files that its in the upstream source that wayt | 03:15 |
| neale | a versioned directory, like subversion? | 03:15 |
| lifeless | kindof | 03:16 |
| lifeless | yes its a directory and yes its versioned | 03:16 |
| lifeless | unlike subversion though, the root of the tree isn't a matter of convention, its part of the core data structure | 03:16 |
| neale | huh. | 03:17 |
| neale | I thought I'd done something wrong :) | 03:17 |
| lifeless | not at all | 03:17 |
| neale | okay, I can cd ~/src/mixxx/mixxx I guess | 03:17 |
| neale | thank you! | 03:19 |
| lifeless | anytime | 03:21 |
| BlindWolf8 | hello? | 07:43 |
| poolie | hi | 07:43 |
| BlindWolf8 | Hi poolie! | 07:43 |
| BlindWolf8 | do you know about bzr dedicated servers? (only using bzr:// protocol) | 07:44 |
| poolie | yes | 07:44 |
| BlindWolf8 | do you mind if I ask you a question? | 07:44 |
| poolie | just ask | 07:44 |
| BlindWolf8 | well, I setup a bzr server on Ubuntu. It's dedicated, so it just uses the bzr protocol...how secure is this compared to bzr+ssh? | 07:45 |
| poolie | it's much less secure | 07:45 |
| poolie | it's much better to run over ssh | 07:45 |
| poolie | unless there's some really compelling reason | 07:45 |
| BlindWolf8 | hmmm.... | 07:46 |
| BlindWolf8 | understood, but I'm not sure how pleased my clients who run Windows will be when they need to install PuTTy Agent | 07:46 |
| poolie | it would be better for them to have an ssh key with no passphrase | 07:48 |
| poolie | then they don't need a putty agent | 07:48 |
| BlindWolf8 | they would still need to load putty agent to keep their private key in memory to macth up with their public key on the server though | 07:49 |
| BlindWolf8 | righ...? | 07:49 |
| BlindWolf8 | been awhile since I've done this... | 07:49 |
| Peng | Think of bzr:// as plain HTTP security-wise. Completely unencrypted. | 07:56 |
| BlindWolf8 | looks like I'll be using bzr+ssh then as I have in the past | 07:59 |
| BlindWolf8 | for the "serve" command, is bzr+ssh a legit protocol? | 08:10 |
| BlindWolf8 | I ask since it's not documented in "bzr help serve" | 08:11 |
| fullermd | You wouldn't run 'serve' for bzr+ssh, just have bzr on the server. | 08:12 |
| BlindWolf8 | ok, thanks | 08:14 |
| poolie | jelmer: hi? | 09:13 |
| jelmer | poolie: hi, sorry | 09:20 |
| jelmer | poolie: mumble, skype? | 09:20 |
| jelmer | poolie: nevermind, just saw your email | 09:28 |
| BlindWolf8 | hello? | 09:41 |
| jelmer | hi BlindWolf8 | 09:44 |
| BlindWolf8 | Hi jelmer | 09:45 |
| BlindWolf8 | I have another Bazaar question | 09:45 |
| BlindWolf8 | is bzr_ssh_path_limiter included in builds yet? I'm using 2.4.1 on Linux and it looks like it's still not included | 09:45 |
| BlindWolf8 | looking at builds logs on launchpad, it looks like it sould be included | 09:46 |
| BlindWolf8 | I go Bazaar via PPA | 09:46 |
| BlindWolf8 | *should | 09:46 |
| BlindWolf8 | *got | 09:46 |
| jelmer | BlindWolf8: it should be in 2.4.1, but I think it's probably only included in the source package, as it's in contrib/ | 09:49 |
| BlindWolf8 | where would I find it on launchpad? | 09:49 |
| BlindWolf8 | is there a direct link to the file or do I have to go download a zip? | 09:49 |
| jelmer | BlindWolf8: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bzr-pqm/bzr/bzr.dev/view/head:/contrib/bzr_ssh_path_limiter | 09:49 |
| BlindWolf8 | Thanks! Do I chmod this file to 755, or...? | 09:50 |
| jelmer | yep | 09:51 |
| BlindWolf8 | I was planning on using "bzr serve" instead of this route, but it doesn't support ssh, (e.g., bzr+ssh) right? | 09:52 |
| jelmer | BlindWolf8: yeah, bzr serve doesn't do ssh at the moment | 09:55 |
| jelmer | that'd be a nice feature actually | 09:55 |
| BlindWolf8 | it would...just a single line via a startup script and BAM! | 09:56 |
| BlindWolf8 | jelmer: do you know how secure bzr_ssh_path_limiter is vs the --directory flag for "bzr serve"? | 09:58 |
| jelmer | BlindWolf8: isn't bzr_ssh_path_delimiter implemented using the directory option of bzr serve? | 09:59 |
| BlindWolf8 | they seem to serve the same functionality, but I didn't write the code :-) | 10:00 |
| BlindWolf8 | didn't know if extra security features were implemented in one vs the other | 10:01 |
| BlindWolf8 | all I know is that I can't use bzr serve since it lacks ssh support | 10:01 |
| jelmer | BlindWolf8: you can't use bzr serve to start a ssh server, but you can if you're already running openssh or something similar on the remote machine | 10:02 |
| jelmer | BlindWolf8: there is no need for bzr_ssh_path_delimiter in that case, just something like "bzr branch bzr+ssh://host/path/on/host" should work if host is running a ssh server | 10:03 |
| jelmer | and has bzr instaled | 10:03 |
| BlindWolf8 | oh...I just point clients towards the SSH port instead of the bzr port, i.e., 22 vs 4511? | 10:06 |
| jelmer | if you use bzr+ssh:// in the URL it will automatically use the SSH port | 10:07 |
| BlindWolf8 | ...unless I don't use the default SSH server port... :-P | 10:09 |
| jelmer | BlindWolf8: right | 10:09 |
| BlindWolf8 | do I need to specify --protocol or --bzr when using bzr serve if I want to use bzr+ssh? | 10:09 |
| jelmer | BlindWolf8: you don't need to invoke bzr serve yourself if you're relying on e.g. openssh | 10:10 |
| BlindWolf8 | oh...it'll auto-run if it's installed and onvoked remotely via a client? | 10:10 |
| BlindWolf8 | *invoked | 10:10 |
| jelmer | yep | 10:11 |
| BlindWolf8 | yeah, but then I don't get to limit direcory access when it runs, right? | 10:11 |
| BlindWolf8 | ...unless I use bzr_ssh_path_limiter of course | 10:14 |
| BlindWolf8 | anyone here? | 10:47 |
| jelmer | BlindWolf8: limiting the directory access in what way? It doesn't really provide additional security. | 10:48 |
| BlindWolf8 | I just really wanted to make paths short in the bazaar interface | 10:49 |
| BlindWolf8 | so path limiter should do that | 10:49 |
| BlindWolf8 | however...I'm trying to create a new repo through the GUI on Windows when using bzr+ssh on the Linux box...I'm able to auth correctly, but I'm getting a 123 error | 10:50 |
| BlindWolf8 | the command passed to the server is "bzr new --colocated-branches --format 2a" | 10:51 |
| jelmer | BlindWolf8: in that case you would indeed want to use bzr_ssh_path_delimiter | 10:51 |
| jelmer | BlindWolf8: do you have bzr colo installed on the server? | 10:51 |
| BlindWolf8 | "new" and "--colocated-branches" don't seem to exist | 10:51 |
| BlindWolf8 | I simply installed bazaar through PPA...the last time I did this I don't remember having to install colo | 10:52 |
| BlindWolf8 | so I guess that's a "no" | 10:52 |
| jelmer | BlindWolf8: you don't need it, but bzr-explorer apparently relies on it | 10:53 |
| BlindWolf8 | why wasn't it included in the PPA package for 2.4.1? | 10:53 |
| jelmer | BlindWolf8: it's not a part of core bzr | 10:55 |
| BlindWolf8 | ah | 10:55 |
| BlindWolf8 | how would I go about installing that? | 10:55 |
| jelmer | BlindWolf8: install the bzr-colo package (not sure if it's in the PPA) | 11:01 |
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| sohmestra | I'm using bzr 2.4.1, and bzr-git 0.6.2. When attempting to serve my bzr branch using bzr serve --git, I don't seem to be able make it listen on anything other than localhost. | 15:22 |
| sohmestra | I've tried bzr serve --git --port myhosthere:9418 | 15:23 |
| sohmestra | bzr serve --bzr works as expected | 15:23 |
| sohmestra | Is this a bug, or am I doing something silly? | 15:24 |
| jelmer | hi sohmestra | 15:27 |
| jelmer | sohmestra: let me have a look | 15:29 |
| jelmer | sohmestra: you have to specify the port as well for it to work, but the --git support in "bzr serve" is still very experimental at this point. | 15:32 |
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| poolie | hi all | 21:45 |
| jml | jam: can you please unplug my cable? | 22:04 |
| fullermd | Now that's distributed development! | 22:14 |
| poolie | hi jml, fullermd | 22:31 |
| mgz | hey poolie | 22:32 |
| poolie | hi there, how's uds? | 22:32 |
| mgz | good, had quite a bit of variety today | 22:33 |
| mgz | couple of testing related sessions, canonical new starter intro, python 3 planning, and qt future | 22:37 |
| jelmer | hi mgz, poolie | 22:55 |
| mgz | hey jelmer | 22:56 |
| Noldorin_ | hey jelmer | 23:05 |
| jelmer | hi Noldorin_ | 23:06 |
| Noldorin_ | jelmer, hey. saw you made a new release for bzr-git, and fixed the rmbranch stuff at least? | 23:18 |
| jelmer | Noldorin_: yep | 23:21 |
| Noldorin_ | cool | 23:22 |
| Noldorin_ | jelmer, any closer to solving the 'database item not found' issue ? | 23:23 |
| jelmer | Noldorin_: not looked at that one yet | 23:23 |
| Noldorin_ | ok sure | 23:24 |
| Noldorin_ | fair enough | 23:24 |
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