[00:00] and in 11.04 I disabled nepomuk as well, but with 11.10 it keeps telling me that is disabled with an annoying notification [00:00] also upgrading some other PC from 11.04 gives a lot of similar notification about email config problems (even if I don't use email there) [00:00] markit: i will say that, believe it or not, i think a full-blown kde would probably work fine on 640MB RAM [00:01] jmichaelx: not my experience, sorry... 1GB is the bare minimum [00:01] also that laptop is a celeron cpu [00:01] yea, it will keep warning you that the service you disabled has been disabled... [00:01] jmichaelx: I've seen the bug report, very disappointing [00:01] the developer's attitude I hate most: is there because is ok [00:02] even if no user and no logic can agree with that [00:02] markit: until recently i was running fedora 14 with kde on a machine with a 2GHz P4, and 512MB RAM, and had no problems at all [00:02] probably nepomuk dev want to force us to use it [00:02] sounds so much "vista-like" features [00:03] jmichaelx: I'm trying to help some school here to become Free. With LTSP thin client is ok, but fat or standalone boot and work really slowly with 512MB [00:03] wondering if you have a SSD disk ;P [00:03] nope, 5400rpm IDE [00:03] or maybe fedora 14 is much more optimized for low memory [00:04] i don't think so.... many of these systems runfine on lower than recommended RAM (within reason) [00:06] probably the most RAM-hungry components of KDE are akonadi/nepomuk/virtuoso.... and my impression is that many (if not most) KDE users wish those components were not there to begin with [00:07] (or that a person could at least easily opt out) [00:08] akonadi should be a fine job in providing a common way to store things... is it memory hungry? [00:08] nepomuk is scanning your hd to do index job I don't need or like instead [00:08] don't know about virtuoso... what is it? maybe an enemy I've not yet tried to fight [00:10] to be honest, i am not sure which does exactly what [00:10] but you can disable file indexing without getting complaints all the time, as long as akonadi is not completely disabled [00:11] sorry.... i meant nepomuk [00:12] I've disabled nepomuk in system settings but it complains [00:12] I've disabled also the "notify if nepomuk does not work" but still it complains [00:12] in 11.04 disabling it had no side effects [00:14] i have two computers here at my desk, and they both have intel atom CPUs... they run full-blown KDE without a hitch (they do each have 4GB RAM), but with file indexing enabled, it pulls down on the CPU noticeably.... maybe if i would let each index for a day or something, things would be fine afterward, don't know [00:14] markit: yep, i experienced the same thing [00:16] i just don't need nepomuk file indexing.... updatedb and locate do everything i need [00:19] well, really I would love to have it as an option to enable IF I need, not something to fight against [00:19] that's the central point [00:21] i totally agree, some of these components need to be optional.... same goes for pulseaudio (which can be removed in KDE far more easily than in gnome) [00:24] pulseaudio is fine, etc, IF it works well with your hardware, but WHY would something like pulse EVER be fully integrated into a DE as many issues as there are with it, i do not understand at all [00:26] i probably should have typed 'tightly' instead of 'fully'.... [00:29] jmichaelx: Interesting how that works [00:30] i realize that where there is software there are bugs and issues.... but that is all the more reason to allow for choice with some of this software [00:35] * Daskreech tries to weigh GNOME and choice on the scales [00:35] Hmm doesn't seem to be equivalent [00:35] that's for sure, but i won't say wish side is has the most weight :) [00:36] (mostly because it's so obvious) [00:36] i accidentally moved all my panel indicators to the left of the panel [00:37] and in trying to get them back, messed up other stuff [00:37] is there any way I can undo the changes I made in the last 5 minutes [00:38] semitones: i accidentally managed to do something like that once, and it took me a little bit to even realize what i'd done [00:38] yeah i don't know how I did it [00:38] and I remember deleting one of the icons in my indicator panel, but I don't remember which one [00:41] semitones: might just reset the plasma panele [00:41] how? [00:44] * jmichaelx also once wound up with two panels in the same place, and could not figure out what was wrong for several minutes [00:45] jmichaelx: Yeah I had them one on top of the other [00:45] semitones: easy way is kill your plasmarc easier way is remove all your panels and add them back [00:46] I figured it out -- this time. next time I might just do that [00:48] semitones: whoo What was it? [00:48] i had deleted the window manager withoug realizing it [00:49] without that taking up space, all my icons and indicators slid all the way to the left [00:49] I didn't realize why that was happening [00:51] btw, I've created a usb stick with a kubuntu 11.04 installation, but if I boot from a netbook, it uses the "netbook interface", where can I set it to use the classic one? [00:51] you mean you deleted your 'task manager', but yeam that would do it [00:56] found [00:58] finding what you want in the plasma widget selector widget (whatever it's called) is not always easy, since many of them have worthless/confusing labels [00:58] some gtk apps in kde dont use the selected widget/style, they use gtk default. Others use gtk-oxygen. ideas? [00:58] smiffel: gtk2 apps are following your settings, gtk3 apps are not [00:59] smiffel: that also puzzled me at first [00:59] bad because evolution looks ugly :( [01:00] smiffel: there may be something that can be done about that, but i am not sure what [01:00] in mandriva it worked well [01:02] another flaw, when i install google earth, there is no icon in the menu [01:02] smiffel: probably only because the version of mandriva you were using did not yet incorporate any gtk3 apps [01:03] jmichaelx: perhaps, 2010.2 didnt want to use 2011.0 [01:04] smiffel: that issue was not present in the previous version of kubuntu, either [01:05] correct, I use 10.04 on my Laptop, everything fine [01:07] any way to manually change single icons like in earlier times? [01:10] smiffel: yea, that has not changed, as far as i know [01:11] i can't right click icon and change it on the panel [01:12] i ask because google earth didnt install with icon, at least i dont see an icon [01:27] In Unity where is the notification manager? [01:41] the center panel in amarok is using a really small font (in a wikipedia article, for example)... would anyone here know how adjust these fonts? [01:57] jmichaelx: MIght be able to stretch it with the size of the area? [02:10] how do i use postgresql as my akonadi backend? [02:13] Edit akonadiserverrc I'd guess [02:15] Daskreech: does not seem to work... this font is miniscule [02:18] jmichaelx: hmm Boo [02:19] I know it's Halloween and all...but "Boo" should be "BOO!" [02:20] boo [02:20] no no... "BOO!" [02:21] heh [02:23] If only there were Braaaaaains around here :P [02:23] * TheEvilPhoenix drops SIR_Taco into a pit of dead bodies [02:24] if I were a zombie... that would be good :) [02:32] SIR_Taco: i'm disposing of zombies [02:32] zombies are technically dead [02:32] so... [02:32] * TheEvilPhoenix lowers in the nuclear explosive device [02:32] lol no i kid [02:32] but seriously, that would end a zombie invasion [02:32] s/invasion/apocalypse/ [02:33] I live 200 kms from a nuclear power plant... you think that might be the cause?! haha [02:33] nuclear power plant != thermonuclear explosion [02:34] ah, but what if it was just a goverment cover story that it was a nuclear power plant and it really wasnt? [02:35] TheEvilPhoenix: You would be a great defense general [02:35] We are under attack! [02:35] Daskreech: no i wouldnt. give me a nuke, and everyone dies. [02:35] Well kill everyoen on our side. Lets see how they will start a war then! [02:35] just out of my paranoia [02:35] :P [02:36] * TheEvilPhoenix believes there are terrorists around every corner [02:36] anyways... [02:36] The zombie hockey stick weilding Canadians are coming.... you've been warned... [02:36] !offtopic | TheEvilPhoenix [02:36] TheEvilPhoenix, please see my private message [02:36] no [02:36] :P [02:36] umode +g for the win [02:37] yea sorry... this has been way off topic haha === fishwithapipe is now known as f|shy [02:57] of the top of y'all's heads, what are the main shortcuts that use the super key? [03:07] semitones: in KDE? [03:08] Umm [03:08] Super+Q ? [03:28] Daskreech: what does it do? [03:28] semitones: manages Activities [03:28] what is this activity business? [03:30] it's like a collection of settings and applications that are kept together [03:31] so if you are doing photo work you can set up your Desktop to have Folderviews for your Photos Directories and it opens Digikam and GIMP [03:31] Then any time you want to work on your photos you jsut start the Photo Activity and you have all your things setup [03:31] When you are done for the night stop it and those go away [03:48] the oneiric dvd's boot menu doesn't have gparted and memtest listed in grub. is there a hidden way to get at them or it really can't book into those tools? [03:49] skomorokh: was gparted in the previous version of ubuntu's boot menu ? [03:53] i have no idea. [03:53] installed a while ago [03:54] memtest is most important at the moment.. guess i could just burn it but i was pretty sure there'd be a way with this [03:55] well i thought memtest was available [03:55] but i've never seen gparted as part of the boot menu [03:57] there was a "repair" optiont that wasn't, normal install and advanced install... repair and advanced didn't seem to have a way to load memtest [04:11] 请问怎么安装kubuntu ati驱动 [04:12] !cn | yuqiqi [04:12] yuqiqi: 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw [04:15] what is the system clock called in kubuntu? I just realized it's not on my taskbar anymore [04:16] Daskreech: that's pretty cool about activities -- I'll have to set some up someday [04:17] semitones: There are loads of clocks [04:18] what's the default one on the taskbar called? I just want the old one back [04:18] semitones: You can filter applets by time so that should be easy to find [04:18] i can see the date and time ones [04:18] but not how to add it to the bar -- dragging does not work. maybe they are only desktop ones [04:19] oh hang on [04:19] i only have to click on it [04:19] man [04:19] i wish this DE behaved consistently :P [04:21] it will eventually, it's harder to achieve since the people making each plasmoid / program are different [04:22] it's not like gnome where there is a small tight group of people directing the flow [04:22] but on the plus side it means you get more powerful features quicker [04:37] semitones: Yeah it's fiddly at times :0/ [04:38] it is still good though -- i really like how it looks and feels much better than gnome === michael is now known as Guest19366 [04:40] semitones: quite a bit :) === max is now known as Guest21723 === richard is now known as Guest62299 [07:07] i edited an app by right clicking laucher, filled in info for it and saved it in the app launcher menu. but it doesnt show up in the proper group. i later reopen the menu editor and look for it and its not there. i try again and save it but it never really "saves". this is kde in 11.10 === 17SABTHSE is now known as Num83rGuy [09:12] hello [09:13] How do you change the kdm background image? Systemsettings says you can't do that when using a theme, but I removed them all. [09:23] cousin_luigi: I am using the german version, but I think in in english it should be: Systemsettings -> KDM -> General -> Checkbox: using Desgin, or so on.. [09:28] MondoBizarro: great, thank:) [09:28] thanks* [09:29] MondoBizarro: what about the background shown right after login? [09:29] (which, incidentally, is the same picture by default) [09:36] cousin_luigi: i must search i bit, i believe the login is configured at an other point in systemsettings... [09:41] cousin_luigi: Systemsettings -> Workspace Appearance -> Spash Screen [09:42] MondoBizarro: thanks! [09:46] Hi all, after upgrading to Kmail 2 my trash bin has just disapeared. ;-( [09:46] any ideas? === niels_ is now known as nielsbusch [10:56] Hi All. I just applied some updates and broke kdm. I do not see KDE as an option. What is it that causes KDM to have KDE or plasma as an option? I'm on oneiric. [10:57] I do see in muon package manager that kde still seems to be installed. === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc [11:34] Hi folks [11:40] hi BluesKaj [11:41] hey Wizard [11:56] can I synchronize the kde-configuration between computers? [11:57] so when configure an option on my workstation, I don't have to do it on my Notebook. [11:58] Hi, can i use HDMI on an netbook with Kubuntu? [11:59] Euathlus, I would think so [12:01] is kubuntu the best choise for an netbook? [12:05] Euathlus: I use it on a netbook [12:05] so far so good [12:05] Euathlus, lots of ppl use kubuntu very successfully on netbooks..."best" is always a matter of taste and preference [12:05] like Torvalds would say: I realy, realy like it [12:05] ;P [12:06] BluesKaj is right [12:06] with amd or intel? i wonder who has better linu support intel atom or amd C or E Series [12:08] Wizard [12:08] dunno, both are x86 crap === Girly-Girl is now known as GirlyGIrl === yofel_ is now known as yofel === canis is now known as Guest18424 [13:04] I have I have a panel I added that seems to pop up where ever it wants to on the desktop when using various applications, or even on restart. [13:04] I'm guessing that this isn't normal [13:40] I need to change the akonadi backend from mysql to postgresql === djallu is now known as D_74_LU [13:59] need a kde frontend to manage postgresql [14:03] phoenix_firebrd, do some research , that's rather specialized question . much more than normal [14:04] BluesKaj: i am meddling and googling about this for the past 2 days, no progress, i am continuing the search === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [14:15] phoenix_firebrd: i don't think there's any, at least not anything powerful and mature. personally, i use phppgadmin [14:16] Torch: are you using akonadi? [14:19] phoenix_firebrd: not really. i don't use my KDE desktop for PIM stuff [14:20] Torch: i need it only to backup and restore my kjots notes in a proper way [14:22] phoenix_firebrd: the "proper" way to backup pg databases is documented in their (fine, IMHO) manual [14:22] Torch: postgresql is not working for me right now [14:23] Torch: i am now trying to find the problem in msql restore and backup [14:23] postgre had some nice ui tool [14:27] Wizard: any kde frontend? [14:27] it was written with wx [14:27] also, there was some qt db tool, more for developers, but I think it had support for postgre [14:29] also, SquirrelSQL is quite nice, I use it daily at work [14:29] depends what kind of tool you need [14:33] Wizard: i found that there is a bug in the akonadi backup restore tool [14:34] ah, and you want to dump db? [14:34] Wizard: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=96285 [14:34] ok, I have other problem: I'm looking for Kubuntu for PPC :> [14:35] Wizard: ppc? [14:35] Wizard: whats PPC? [14:35] PowerPC? [14:35] PowerPC [14:35] ok [14:35] Wizard: for future reference, PowerPC is *not* usually abbreviated as PPC [14:35] its usually called just PowerPC [14:35] heh [14:35] strange [14:36] most of linux distros use ppc abbrevation [14:37] ah! "More ports (unsupported!)" sounds like I'm home [14:38] (yes, unsupported is the keyword, scr*w you, Apple!) === mgagne is now known as wftl [14:41] Need help finding my desktop. My 2 yo decided to punch keys on keyboard and somehow changed my customized desktop to the standard kubuntu 11.04. Ibelieve the old one is still there somewhere, i just can't get to it. I rebooted and it loaded the new(old) desktop but kontact said there is another instance running on another desktop, so..... how do I revert to my custom desktop? thanks [14:45] Bortune: o_O [14:45] yea!?! [14:45] amazing, I don't even have an idea what might have happen [14:46] maybe you logged in as another user? guest or something? [14:46] so after rebooting, my firefox windows reloaded. when i clicked them it took me to my old desktop. but when i clicked on quassel, it took me back to the default desktop and I cant find my open firefox anymore [14:47] same loggin. I am totally confused and puzzled as to how she can find these "shortcuts"! [14:47] hmm [14:48] maybe it enabled activities or something [14:48] does anybody have any idea? [14:48] obviously there is another desktop instance running, just dont know how to revert to the other one [14:49] it isnt the virtual desktops. what else could it be? [14:49] hmm [14:49] ps ax | grep plasma | grep -v grep | wc -l [14:49] paste it on console [14:51] Bortune, do you have different widgets activated for different desktops in sys settings>workspce behaviour>virtualdesktops ? [14:51] BluesKaj: lemmi check [14:52] BluesKaj: nope [14:54] Bortune, maybe previous sessions were saved and that's what you're seeing when you suse differnt desktops with different apps...just guessing [14:54] suse=use ..oops :) [14:54] :) [14:55] i dont Suse! [14:55] :P [14:55] neither do I [14:56] the weird thing is, when i clicked on firefox in panel it took me to my old settings, then i came back to IRC and the old desktop is back [14:56] now the firefox in panel is no longer there, so I think it is another instance, I just dont know how to switch back to it [14:57] yeah , i had that happen along time ago , can't recall what fixed it tho [15:00] Bortune, try desktop settings > layout, right click on the panel [15:00] err the desktop rather [15:03] Hello guys! Can someone help me with the kubuntu installation? [15:03] well, gotta go ...stuff to do [15:03] BluesKaj: thank you [15:03] Wizard: can you tell me what that will do? [15:05] I habe problems with kubuntu installation (Write acess errors). Can someone help? [15:11] reuabreliz: probably not until you give more details [15:30] Bortune: count plasma desktops [15:30] you're not familiar with bash scripting, right? === spacebug is now known as spacebug- [15:35] basic knowledge of terminal, thats it Wizard === HomeRoey is now known as EvilRoey [15:36] so, ps ax list processes, grep plasma will look for plasma and print lines containing them, grep -v grep will look for grep and remove lines containing it, wc -l will count the lines [15:37] I just wanted to know if you have only one plasma running [15:37] ok thanks Wizard. I just found ctrl + f8 can switch back and forth but something is still off [15:37] let me check [15:38] Wizard: 2 [15:38] nah [15:38] should be one :/ [15:38] hmm [15:38] at least I have one [15:38] how did this happen? any ideas [15:38] ps ax | grep plasma [15:39] paste this somewhere [15:39] AHHA, I have an extra activity, think that might be the problem [15:41] I know nothing about activities [15:41] but meta+q allows me to switch between the two [15:42] Wizard: thank you for your time. meta+tab is my saving grace [15:43] I don't use activities at all [15:43] but that was my first guess ;) [15:43] iirc [15:43] me either! but apparently my daughter likes them :) [15:43] :D === annalee_ is now known as annalee [16:07] Guys, I think we have a problem. [16:07] I just checked apper to see if I had any updates, and under the legacy section it mentions python-gobject2, which is deprecated [16:08] So since it's deprecated, i went to remove it, and it wanted to take another 14 packages with it, including apper itself :) === iamkrazee is now known as krZy [16:15] BarkingFish: so, what does that mean? [16:15] and what apper is? [16:15] apper is what replaced kpackagekit in the new version of Kubuntu, Wizard [16:15] hi.. i just installed oneiric kubuntu, now i need to use my android phone's usb tethering with it I have just no way of getting this to work. Need help. [16:16] and what it means is, we have a package which sudo apt-get autoremove will take off, but it will also require other packages which we NEED to go at the same time [16:19] nah, does autoremove get rid of deprecated packages? [16:19] BarkingFish: here apper does not depend on python-gobject [16:19] strange [16:19] yofel: Well if I try and take the legacy package off, apper tries to remove itself too [16:20] why is it legacy btw. ? [16:20] no idea [16:21] I don't see any apper installed o_O [16:21] Wizard: not installed by default [16:21] if you open apper, and go to the legacy section, it's in there - python-gobject-2: deprecated static Python bindings for the GObject library [16:21] ah [16:21] * yofel goes installing apper [16:24] can Google Docs open iWork files? [16:24] but if you click to remove it, and then apply your pending changes, it comes up with this, yofel: [16:24] http://i42.tinypic.com/hrla9w.jpg [16:24] BarkingFish: ah, legacy is what dpkg calls oldlibs - just because they're old doesn't mean nothing uses them [16:24] ah [16:24] Wizard: How would we know? Ask google support :P [16:25] Quintasan: very funny [16:25] your answers are allways pretty useful ;P [16:25] I suggest that you try it and report a bug to Google if you belive it's needed [16:25] yofel - i was confused because of people calling Kpackagekit "legacy" when i was asking about resurrecting it a while ago - it gave me the impression that legacy = deprecated = not used anymore [16:27] you're not supposed to use it anymore, but you 'can' [16:27] and they're used by packages that simply weren't updated to not use them [16:28] obsolete would probably be a better name for kpackagekit [16:29] i've always had the same complaint with terminology, yofel - it helps if everyone uses the same words to mean the same things :) [16:29] !info mol [16:29] Package mol does not exist in oneiric [16:29] Hm [16:29] to me, legacy means "in the past, old, antiquated" - obsolete means "dead, history, gone, never coming back" [16:30] * yofel agrees [17:07] hello, i am new to kubuntu, can you tell me how can i add My Computer and trash bin icon on desktop? [17:11] Waste bin - click on the icon in the top right corner, select add widgets and then drag the waste bin icon to wherever you want it [17:12] mfraz74, how about "My Computer" icon ? [17:12] where do you want the "my computer" icon to point to? [17:12] since its weird that in kubuntu , the desktop is the home folder but not desktop folder [17:13] /home/saeed/ [17:14] SaEeDIRHA: go to the menu, drag "Dolphin" to the desktop, rename it to "My computer" [17:15] also the icons are too big , is there any way to make them smaller ? [17:16] SaEeDIRHA: what do you mean by 'that in kubuntu, the desktop is the said folder but not desktop folder' ? By default the KDE desktop is a set of widgets - not any folder [17:17] are you using the desktop view or folder view? [17:18] mfraz74, yofel , i have changed the folder view to specific folder and , my desktop view shows items in my desktop folder [17:19] so it's now set to what you want? [17:19] SaEeDIRHA: if you right click and select folder view settings, there is a slider where you can change the icon view [17:20] mfraz74, i used to work with ubuntu in gnome desktop, KDE is way different :D feel like i am lost :D [17:21] SaEeDIRHA: I'm the other way round - I've always used KDE since moving over to Linux, Gnome seemed odd to me [17:22] mfraz74, i have been learning to Qt programming these days , thats why i decided to migrate to KDE desktop :) [17:22] and please excuse me if i ask very naive questions [17:23] learning C++ Qt* [17:23] you're not the only one - so don't worry about that :) [17:24] still cannot find how to change icons size , they are too big on my desktop [17:24] have you gone to the settings window? [17:25] and what is that + sing on files when you move your cursor over them ? [17:25] mfraz74, where is that ? [17:25] mfraz74, Folder view settings ? [17:25] mfraz74, ok got it , tnx :) [17:27] what is that + sign over files when you move the mouse cursor over them ? [17:28] SaEeDIRHA: select the file - you'll notice it's marked when you click on the +, and the + changes into a - [17:29] yofel, correct , but what is that for ? [17:29] selecting files? Like you would do by single-clicking on them in gnome [17:29] as single-click in kde will OPEN the file [17:30] yofel, ahhh , i see :) [17:30] by default at lesat [17:30] *least [17:31] i managed to resize icons for files , but i the icon for waste bin which is a widget doesnt change [17:31] its still too big [17:32] SaEeDIRHA: go onto the widget, a small panel will slide out - dragging the topmost button will change the widget size [17:34] yofel, i can click on it , but it doesnt change any thing , when i drag it and move the mouse nothing happens either [17:35] meh, you can make that widget only larger, not smaller for some reason... [17:35] yofel, i see [17:36] thank you [17:43] how is it possible to add network location to Dolphin sidebar when they are mounted ? [17:44] this automatically happens when you mount network drives to /media/ location [17:49] anyone know a good guide to installing oneiric with dmcrypt? === b_ is now known as Guest89243 [18:36] hi there [18:37] on certain websites firefox causes Xorg to eat up 100% of my cpu. This also happens with a add-ons disabled [18:37] *all [18:46] serenity: Do you have the Adobe flash plugin, or one of the free ones? [18:47] genii-around: these pages are non-flash [18:48] serenity: Ah. Often Adobe's npviewer.bin occupies the cpu. Are you certain there are no ads on the pages which are using it? [18:49] ( the top command would show npviewer.bin as using a lot of resources ) === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech [18:49] ciao... [18:49] genii-around: i am. One of this pages is my owncloud installation ;) [18:51] ciao alessagiar, do you need help in italian? [18:55] serenity: If you go to Tools...Add-Ons... Plugins .... you can selectively disable those as well, then to try refreshing the page and see if one of those is the issue [19:00] genii-around: no change [19:08] serenity: Which video driver does your (k)ubuntu use? [19:12] genii-around: nvidia prop. [19:13] would i find kde4 too heavy on my 1gb atom netbook? [19:13] test it, in oneiric there is a package called kubuntu-low-fat-settings which reduces the cpu/ram usage [19:14] genii-around: 173.14.30 [19:14] i think i should upgrade to 2gb [19:15] serenity: Have you considered replacing it with nvidia-current ? [19:15] genii-around: this is the version which was installed via nvidia-current [19:15] Hm [19:15] !info nvidia-current [19:15] nvidia-current (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers): NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library. In component restricted, is optional. Version 280.13-0ubuntu6 (oneiric), package size 30824 kB, installed size 90500 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia) [19:16] oh [19:16] i might be wrong [19:16] *installing* [19:17] should i install kubuntu-full or -netbook? [19:19] oh i will just do full [19:20] hum, slightly annoying how some trivial conflicts in the libreoffice ppa can "lock out" the user from updating the rest of his system [19:20] ( http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3119100.0 ) [19:20] incorrect: You can always add the netbook desktop layout later by installing plasma-netbook [19:20] thanks [19:21] lnostdal: Yes, you should give the owner or team responsible for the PPA proper heck [19:24] i've not tried kde4 since 4.0 [19:27] incorrect: a lot happend, believe me [19:30] how can I make more than one VPN connection show up on the left (connected side) of the widget when they're connected with the networkmanager [19:48] Whoohoo! Equalizer in Dragon Player :) === andy_ is now known as Guest3093 [20:28] how do i enable the low-fat mode? [20:31] incorrect: install the package kubuntu-low-fat-settings but it will change the look and feel a bit as well as turn off the autostart of a number of potentially useful things [20:31] but if you havea low spec or really old system it is good [20:32] if you dont like, just uninstall it and reboot [20:33] well i will go back to xubuntu [20:33] shame it is so heavy [20:37] hola? [20:37] owo [20:38]