[07:20] <christoffer> Does anyone else experience problems with the launchpad mailinglists? I'm trying to send emails to "ubuntu-se-screencasts@lists.launchpad.net" but no email shows up on launchpad nor to any team member.
[07:20] <nigelb> Are you a member of the team?
[07:21] <nigelb> And are you sending it from the right email address?
[07:25] <christoffer> nigelb: Yes, owner of the team. Yes sending with the adress I'm registered with on launchpad
[07:26] <christoffer> I successfully sent 4 emails in september and october
[07:26] <christoffer> but since last sunday no emails arrive
[07:30] <wgrant> Nov 01 07:16:47 2011 (14613) post to ubuntu-se-screencasts from christoffer.holmstedt
[07:30] <wgrant> success
[07:30] <christoffer> wgrant: perfect
[07:30] <wgrant> christoffer: The archives are a bit behind.
[07:30] <christoffer> I suppose the public archive caches
[07:30] <christoffer> yea
[07:30] <wgrant> christoffer: But emails should be going out, and the web archives will update soonish.
[07:31] <christoffer> bit behind, is that more than a day so my email last sunday could very well have gone out?
[07:31] <wgrant> At the moment it could be even a few days behind.
[07:32] <christoffer> aha
[07:32] <christoffer> nigelb and wgrant thanks for your help, very much appreciated
[07:32] <wgrant> smtp to ubuntu-se-screencasts for 5 recips, completed in 6.344 seconds
[07:32] <wgrant> So the emails did go out.
[13:34] <mwhudson> suppose we want a ppa where superseded binaries don't expire
[13:49] <mwhudson> bigjools: hello
[13:57] <bigjools> mwhudson: hey
[13:57] <bigjools> we maintain a whitelist in code
[13:58] <mwhudson> bigjools: ah interesting, so with sufficient pleading we might be able to get a ppa onto the list?
[13:59] <bigjools> mwhudson: kneel before the losas
[13:59] <mwhudson> bigjools: :-)
[14:00] <bigjools> mwhudson: not in *that* way
[14:01] <mwhudson> bigjools: ew, my mind hadn't gone there
[14:01] <bigjools> mwhudson: maybe the same thing to get decent coffee at a UDS though
[14:02] <mwhudson> bigjools: this is why we need to hold a uds in au/nz, clearly
[14:02] <bigjools> +1
[14:02] <bigjools> flat white FTW
[14:03] <lifeless> \o/
[14:04] <mwhudson> although i guess it would be less effort to ship a barista and a tonne of coffee to uds...
[14:04] <jonathanj> what does a PasswordSetError mean?
[14:04] <jonathanj> oh that's keyring.backend.PasswordSetError apparently
[14:09] <jonathanj> trying to to bzr lp-propose (and then authorizing the device) results in bzr spewing that on Mac OS X 10.7.2
[14:51] <OdyX> Aye. Why can't I upload to my PPA anymore ("General error" when checking the GPG signature) ?
[14:52] <bigjools> OdyX: it will work, ignore the error
[14:53] <OdyX> bigjools:   Uploading pyside_1.0.8-1+py3~exp1~n1_source.changes: 4k/5k550 Changes file must be signed with a valid GPG signature: Verification failed 3 times: ['General error', 'General error', 'General error'] : Permission denied.
[14:53] <bigjools> OdyX: it will work, ignore the error
[14:54] <OdyX> bigjools: okay. Let's try "trust" then. :->
[14:54] <OdyX> Meh, it worked indeed.
[14:54] <OdyX> thanks!
[14:54] <bigjools> np
[15:11] <bnitz> Is there any documentation on how to document a project in launchpad?  Specifically I'm trying to provide epidocs in a rendered form rather than as raw HTML.
[16:46] <bnitz> How do I document projects on launchpad?
[19:08] <Darxus> Did the 'bzr: ERROR: unknown command "dailydeb"' problem get fixed?  Is there an open bug?
[19:13] <Darxus> Looks like it's fixed.
[19:21] <danhg> abentley
[19:21] <abentley> danhg: yes?
[19:21] <danhg> hey, just opened a pvt
[19:29] <Darxus> Yup, 'bzr: ERROR: unknown command "dailydeb"' looks fixed.
[20:03] <danhg> flacoste
[23:26] <meebey> hiya, I am trying to import a git branch into lp but have issues because it thinks I am using submodules but I migrated the repo to use merged subtrees instead. how is lp detecting if submodules are used?
[23:27] <jelmer> meebey: are there submodules in the history perhaps?
[23:28] <jelmer> meebey: it raises that exception if it finds submodule entries in one of the Git Tree objects it's importing
[23:28] <meebey> in the history? I thought its just the .gitmodules file, see the repo: https://gitorious.org/~meebey/smuxi/meebeys-smuxi-subtree-mirror/commits/master and http://launchpadlibrarian.net/84220088/meebey-smuxi-subtree-mirror.log
[23:28] <meebey> jelmer: hm ic, I didnt filter anything
[23:29] <jelmer> meebey: yep, anywhere in the branch history
[23:29] <meebey> IMHO it should just check HEAD for submodules, or is that how modules work? putting commitids somewhere in the history
[23:30] <meebey> I wondered already why the .gitmodules file is not listing the linked commitids
[23:30] <jelmer> meebey: the problem is that it needs to be able to reproduce Git objects byte-for-byte because git servers send deltas
[23:31] <jelmer> meebey: in other words, it needs to convert submodules to *something* - it doesn't do lossy imports
[23:31] <meebey> so how can I convince lp that I no longer use submodules?
[23:31] <meebey> ah ic
[23:31] <meebey> each object, gotcha
[23:31] <meebey> or each commit to be precise
[23:31] <jelmer> meebey: unfortunately the only way to do that at the moment is to not actually have any submodules in your history
[23:32] <jelmer> this is by far the no 1 reason for git import failures on Launchpad
[23:32] <meebey> filtering is allright with me, I made a special repo for this
[23:32] <meebey> just not sure how to that yet though
[23:33] <meebey> or I just do a history-less import
[23:33] <meebey> HEAD
[23:33] <meebey> + the merged subtrees
[23:33] <meebey> that would be submodule commit free then
[23:33] <jelmer> yeah, a history less import would work too, indeed
[23:34] <jelmer> meebey: btw, while you're here... has the new smuxi RPC mechanism landed yet?
[23:34] <meebey> ok thanks
[23:35] <meebey> jelmer: new RPC meachism? the new sync code?
[23:35] <meebey> making the connect 4 times faster and allows to use the frontend while it is still syncing
[23:35] <jelmer> meebey: yeah, the mechanism for communication between the frontend and the smuxi server.. it caused my frontend to hang on high-latency connections
[23:36] <meebey> thats in git master
[23:36] <jelmer> sweet, I'll give it another go
[23:36] <meebey> working on development snapshots thus the need for lp branches :)
[23:36] <jelmer> heh
[23:36] <meebey> we have a windows auto builder now
[23:37] <meebey> each push triggers a new build
[23:38] <meebey> jelmer: basic xmpp support is also now officially merged, allows to connect to jabber, gtalk and facebook and can send and receive messages
[23:39] <jelmer> I'm more looking for something that is focussed on IRC
[23:40] <meebey> hehe ic
[23:41] <meebey> I need more than IRC because I have to use shitty web or gui interfaces for communication with regular people
[23:41] <meebey> the best web interface is still half as good as a proper desktop one
[23:44] <jelmer> IRC and IM are two vastly different things for me, I don't really want them in one app
[23:45] <jelmer> empathy works well here for IM stuff, and I like the fact that if I disconnect I go offline (as that's what others who try to talk to me expect)..
[23:45] <jelmer> still, I have the choice of ignoring IM support in smuxi I guess...
[23:45] <meebey> yes you do, you can even disable the code :)
[23:46] <meebey> by passing --disable-engine-xmpp to configure for example
[23:46] <wgrant> Is there a console frontend?
[23:46] <meebey> only an experimental one
[23:46] <wgrant> I've been looking for an irssi+screen replacement for quite a few years :)
[23:46] <wgrant> But console access is handy sometimes.
[23:46] <wgrant> Hmm.
[23:46] <wgrant> Might have to try it anyway.
[23:47] <meebey> experimental as in, the code builds and should work but probably has bugs
[23:47] <meebey> used it for a while on my android
[23:47] <meebey> via IrssiConnectBot
[23:48] <meebey> wgrant: I started the project 6 years for exactly that purpose, replacing my irssi+screen which I was using for some years
[23:48] <meebey> +ago