[06:42] <sagaci> daily isos for precise seem to be generating
[06:54] <head_victim> blahdeblah: I just hit the update cron last night, sorry that was probably my bad
[06:55] <head_victim> sagaci: I've had 12.04 running in a VM since 11.10 was released :P
[06:55] <head_victim> blahdeblah: doesn't appear to be running automatically. BUT they are currently working on the upgrade to drupal 6 finally (or so the email I got says)
[06:55] <sagaci> I prefer to take it from a fresh start, ala on my main laptop :)
[06:56] <head_victim> It was a fresh start, I only installed 11.10 in the VM so I can update the sources.list to precise ;)
[06:56] <blahdeblah> head_victim: I thought i added a cron hit to my server a while back
[06:56] <head_victim> blahdeblah: hadn't run in several hundred days according to the admin bit when I looked at it so thought I'd do a manual and see what happened
[06:57] <blahdeblah> when i get a chance, i'll add it to my list so it gets hit regularly
[06:57] <head_victim> I'd hold up, in case it needs to be changed when they do this update
[06:58] <head_victim> The only things we need the website for that loco.u.c can't do is the news feed on the main page, an about us page, a contact us page and the planet.
[06:59] <sagaci> head_victim: did you end up getting that mechanical keyboard?
[06:59] <head_victim> The calendar and stuff we should really shut off unless it can pull an RSS feed off the loco.u.c but I'm holding off making too many decisions and thoughts until I see what it looks like done.
[06:59] <head_victim> sagaci: nah got a cherry linux. When i started down the mechanical keyboard slope it quickly got prices out of my market.
[06:59] <head_victim> The only mechanical keyboard I ended up wanting was one of the Decks.
[07:00] <sagaci> what's a cherry linux
[07:00] <head_victim> Cheery Cymotion Master Linux keyboard, has linux logos instead of windows, etc.
[07:02] <sagaci> oh ok
[07:02] <sagaci> like 100 bucks or something
[07:02] <head_victim> Sent you a link in pm so I didn't spam the channel 
[07:02] <head_victim> I g+'d it
[07:03] <sagaci> was it compatible, like keymapped, with ubuntu out of the box
[07:03] <sagaci> USB?
[07:03] <head_victim> Yep
[07:03] <sagaci> are you going to LCA?
[07:06] <head_victim> Nah can't afford it.
[07:07] <sagaci> I've got a wedding to go to in QLd then a similar thing at sydney the week before and after, respectively
[07:08] <head_victim> We're looking at running the installation fest on the 7th or 8th if that coincides iwth the wedding ;)
[07:11] <sagaci> it's in mackay, which is the 14th, a day before the sunday before
[07:11] <head_victim> Ah, not quite the right part of Qld then or the right time :)
[07:12] <sagaci> the daily looks bootabl
[07:13] <head_victim> I've not had any real issues yet but it is going to be an LTS so I'm not expecting huge dramas.
[07:14] <sagaci> nah they seem to want it stable for most uses by alpha1+a week
[07:14] <sagaci> whether that will happen will need to be seen
[07:21] <sagaci> head_victim: were you meant to send that to the list
[07:21] <head_victim> Which one?
[07:21] <sagaci> don't worry, I just got an email about it
[07:22] <sagaci> at first it seemed like it was from the ubuntu-au list
[07:23] <head_victim> I'm lost :)
[07:23] <sagaci> never mind
[07:23] <sagaci> :)
[07:26] <head_victim> blahdeblah: in talks with the Canonical folk about the upgrade. Other than theming to the new look and adding openid login (via launchpad) is there any major advancement's you would be looking fore?
[07:36] <head_victim> WB
[07:42] <head_victim> If anyone knows of a drupal module that will allow an ical feed into some sort of read only calendar sing out
[09:32] <airtonix> head_victim: tried using views ? 
[10:00] <head_victim> airtonix: no idea what that even is :)
[10:01] <airtonix> head_victim: what version of drupal are you using
[10:01] <head_victim> It's been decided to focus on core components first to get it going. The ubuntu.org.au is moving from 5 to 6
[10:01] <airtonix> then it's understandable that you don't know
[10:01] <head_victim> So they're going to set up openid login and the ubuntu theme
[10:01] <airtonix> views is a default component of 7
[10:01] <airtonix> and to be honest
[10:01] <head_victim> Well there you go :)
[10:01] <airtonix> anyone running a version less than 6 is asking to be hacked
[10:02] <head_victim> If you can find a ubuntu theme for drupal 7 I'm happy to ask we go straight to that.
[10:02] <airtonix> i wouldn't
[10:02] <airtonix> not yet anyway
[10:02] <airtonix> v6 is the happy medium ground
[10:02] <airtonix> all the usefull addons aren't properly migrated to v7 yet
[10:03] <airtonix> but then v7 is great out of the box as is
[10:03] <airtonix> content creation kit is core in 7
[10:03] <airtonix> as is views
[10:03] <head_victim> Ok good to know. I personally know nothing about drupal except point and click admin after it's set up (even then there isa lot of trial and error)
[10:03] <airtonix> yeah i spent alot of time in drupal
[10:03] <airtonix> coding, theming, and admin
[10:04] <airtonix> i was waiting for the module: Panels to move to v7 but then i discovered Django
[10:04] <airtonix> now i don'
[10:04] <airtonix> don't care about anything php
[10:04] <head_victim> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-drupal-theme is the project we're going to borrow the themes from.
[10:05] <head_victim> Details also at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDrupal
[10:05] <head_victim> THe main move for the update was so we can theme the website with current Ubuntu branding instead of the old school browns.
[10:05] <airtonix> yeah that won't work for v7
[10:05] <airtonix> v7 theming is more streamline than it was for 6
[10:06] <head_victim> I've made a request for openid logins as well so it's not another account you need to make.
[10:06] <airtonix> good idea
[10:06] <head_victim> Lowering the bar for contributions is a good thing.
[10:06] <airtonix> consider "not hosting comments" too
[10:06] <airtonix> let disqus or facebook do it
[10:06] <airtonix> disquss preferrably
[10:07] <head_victim> Tempting. Leave it as a news feed, planet, about us and contact us and to the rest elsewher4e
[10:07] <head_victim> We already have a large-ish fb account so that seems appropriate.
[10:07] <airtonix> yeah the point is that someone else handles the bandwidth for spam and all that
[10:08] <head_victim> Yeah, the team website is hosted by Canonical.
[10:08] <airtonix> and more people can contribute too
[10:08] <airtonix> no its not a case of bandwidth cost
[10:08] <airtonix> it's a case of speed
[10:08] <head_victim> Saving them both is a good thing, means they can use the bandwidth elsewhere and we get quicker loads.
[10:08] <airtonix> all coming from the one server... you'd wanna hope your server and it's pipe is freakn awesomesauce 
[10:09] <airtonix> but that's beyond the scope of something like ubuntuau ? 
[10:09] <airtonix> it's not really going to be intense bandwidth usage?
[10:10] <head_victim> The main thing is if we host it ourselves and the person providing the hosting goes awol (which does happen even with the best of intentions) we're stuck. Having Canonical host it means the team will ALWAYS have access to it.
[10:10] <head_victim> There is no major bandwidth use from my knowledge but I don't see the stats.
[10:11] <head_victim> I just know the user list is out of control with spam users so the idea of open id authorisation sounds pretty nice.
[10:13] <head_victim> Hmmm https://code.launchpad.net/~michealh/ubuntu-drupal-theme/7.x
[10:15] <head_victim> Anyway, I'll bbl. Gotta head off for a bit. Feel free to chime in suggestions on the ML if you want everyone to see/consider it. Or just leave messages in here. I read scrollbacks, probably a little too much.
[11:22] <jaddi27> head_victim, I saw your email about the website upgrade
[11:24] <head_victim> jaddi27: happy days :)
[11:24] <jaddi27> Yes, certainly. One thing we might want to do is display the calendar data from l.u.c on the website
[11:25] <head_victim> I was debating just a button that links to the meetings and events list or if we should ical feed it in
[11:26] <jaddi27> Yes, I am not entirely sure what is best. My thought was that if we can have the events listed on the website, it might lead to more people seeing them
[11:27] <jaddi27> I know quite a few people don't like having to follow lots of links to get information
[11:28] <head_victim> Ok, basically the Canonical person said they'd focus on the core of the upgrade first and this can be added later. mainly because I didn't have the info on hand. If you know a drupal module that will do it let me know and we'll suggest it
[11:31] <jaddi27> Ok. I will try to get a demo working in a couple of weeks, after my exams are finished
[11:31] <jaddi27> At least we are getting a theme upgrade
[11:31] <head_victim> jaddi27: also - http://www.facebook.com/apps/application.php?v=info&id=164414672850
[11:31] <head_victim> jaddi27: as for the drupal module, they will test and install it if they know what one "works"
[11:32] <jaddi27> The facebook app - I started using it a while ago,but it didn't actually do everything I wanted
[11:33] <head_victim> Ah ok, I wasn't sure if that was the one you tried or not
[11:33] <head_victim> I just found it googling about
[11:33] <jaddi27> The main thing is that creating group events will invite everyone in the group to the event, whereas that application does not do that at the moment
[11:33] <jaddi27> I will keep watching it to see if they have any updates
[11:35] <head_victim> http://drupal.org/project/gcal_events is looking something like what we'd want on the website.
[11:38] <jaddi27> The only issue with that is that it must be a google calendar feed, not an ics feed
[11:40] <head_victim> Hmm might wait for the upgrade, maybe built into 6.x
[11:41] <jaddi27> no, it isn't unfortunately
[11:42] <jaddi27> We might be able to use that module by importing using the XML link for the calendar in Google Calendar
[11:43] <head_victim> http://www.drupalove.com/drupal-video/ical-events-nodes watching that now
[11:43] <jaddi27> Does your google calendar show the upcoming Translations meeting at the correct time? Mine shows it at 4pm on Friday
[11:43] <head_victim> Yeah there's a bug for that hang on I'll link
[11:44] <jaddi27> ok
[11:44] <head_victim> Bug 786322
[11:44] <head_victim> That's it I think
[11:50] <jaddi27> Ok. Thanks for that link
[11:51] <head_victim> I thought it was daylight savings issues but doesn't appear to be
[11:52] <jaddi27> No, it is in the formatting of the ical file
[11:52] <jaddi27> I think it is a similar issue to what we had in Thunderbird a while ago
[11:53] <head_victim> Regressions with the update that happened recently?
[11:55] <jaddi27> I think the update might not be correctly done
[11:55] <jaddi27> I have a feeling there was an issue where the timezone was incorrectly defined or something
[11:56] <head_victim> Ah ok, I wasn't using the ical last time this happened I don't think
[11:56] <jaddi27> Ok
[11:57] <jaddi27> The ical shows the event as starting at 0600 on 2011-11-05 UTC
[11:57] <jaddi27> (that is the translations meeting)
[11:57] <head_victim> And that is wrong, should be 0800 :/
[11:57] <jaddi27> yes
[11:58] <jaddi27> the timezone data is alright - set to UTC, which is the easiest way to do it
[11:58] <jaddi27> but when it is generating the ical file, it is not making the correct times
[12:00] <jaddi27> I think the drupal modules http://drupal.org/project/date and http://drupal.org/project/calendar will do the ics work we want
[12:00] <head_victim> So it's got to do with the ical generation on the loco.u.c end
[12:00] <jaddi27> but I have not tried it yet
[12:00] <jaddi27> I think it is, yes
[12:00] <head_victim> That's ok I can make the suggestions to the admin doing the update and see if they have time after the core upgrade.
[12:01] <jaddi27> Ok, that would be great
[12:01] <jaddi27> I think the timezone implementation for l.u.c needs to be changed
[12:01] <head_victim> Well add comments to the bug :) Doing the troubleshooting for them to that level might help prod them to fix the regression :)
[12:02] <jaddi27> A team can set a default timezone, but users can also set a timezone, and all pages they visit will have events shown in that timezone
[12:02] <jaddi27> Yes, that sounds good
[12:02] <jaddi27> Oh, my last comment meant that is what I think they should do, not what can already be done
[12:05] <head_victim> Nah I think events should be set at a specific date and time with mention of what tz it's in. If you import an ical it should auto convert to whatever tz you've specified.
[12:05] <head_victim> Too confusing otherwise.
[12:07] <jaddi27> Yes, that could be done
[12:08] <jaddi27> I think all data should be stored in UTC in the database - all of the timezone conversion is done on the fly using PyTz (I looked that much up, but couldn't understand where the rest of the code was)
[12:36] <head_victim> jaddi27: the website modules have been passed on :) 
[12:36] <head_victim> Well I'm off for the night, cheerio
[12:37] <jaddi27> thanks for that. speak to you later