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asterismohi people04:10
stlsaintasterismo: sup04:10
asterismois there anyway to get firefox scrollbar look like the other windows?04:10
asterismosay04:10
asterismognome-terminal?04:11
asterismostlsaint > here i was reporting a couple of oneiric bugs04:11
stlsainthrm maybe some ff themes around but im not a user of ff so im not sure04:11
asterismooverall very happy with oneiric04:11
asterismowhat do u use?04:11
asterismoi tried epiphany-browser but it spectacularly crashed in gmail page...04:12
asterismoso i went back to ff04:12
stlsaintasterismo: i still run lucid04:13
asterismobut lucid still have firefox for main web browser04:14
asterismowhat browser do u run?04:14
stlsaintchrome04:14
stlsaintchromium04:14
asterismook04:14
ApOgEEwhat's wrong with ff?04:14
stlsaintslow IMO04:14
stlsaintthan chrome OR chromium04:15
bioterrorchromium instead uses tons of RAM04:16
asterismoi was just asking if there is anyway to make firefoz scrollbar look like the other apps in oneiric ocelot04:16
asterismolike slick scrollbar04:16
bioterrorasterismo, I think that depends on firefox's own theme04:16
bioterrorjust like in chromium, it's not tied into GTK04:16
holsteinasterismo: its there still a global directory?04:17
holsteinim reading that you should see scrollbar.css in there, and you can edit the look04:18
* holstein looking for dir04:18
mariongood evening everyone i have an fstab question i think i may have finally figured it out i just want to double check04:18
asterismonever heard of it04:18
ApOgEEasterismo: I don't think there is any... or yet04:19
ApOgEEmarion: how can i help u?04:19
asterismoand i did not find any post about it04:20
asterismoit would be nice to have firefoz scrollbar looks like gnome-terminal's04:20
marionok so i have a partition labeled sdb1 that i want mounted to media/c when I start so i want to know with this being an ntfs file system will "/dev/sdb1   /media/c   rw,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000" work correctly and give me read write access04:20
holsteinasterismo: i found http://www.twistermc.com/1216/customize-firefoxs-scrollbar/04:21
holsteinits old though04:21
ApOgEE+1 asterismo ... have you file a feature request?04:21
bioterrormarion, that's easy04:22
bioterrormario: sudo blkid04:22
bioterrormarion, pick that UUID of sdb104:22
bioterrorand then add line to fstab: UUID=insert-your-asdasd123-here /media/c ext4 defaults 0 104:23
holsteinmarion: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive#Automatic_Mount_At_Boot04:24
holsteinmarion: its the "sudo chown -R USERNAME:USERNAME /media/mynewdrive" part i was talking about earlier04:25
marionholstein i have read it and i am still trying to figure it out04:25
holsteinwhere /media/mynewdrive is whatever directory you are mounting04:25
holstein/media/c04:25
holsteinmarion: UUID is the way to do it too04:25
bioterrorwhat's wrong with my guidance?04:25
bioterrorit's that simple04:26
marionand by doing the uuid that will auto mount at boot?04:26
bioterrormarion, just do as i wrote04:26
holsteinrefering to the drive by UUID is a good idea04:26
marionso does this look right ? "UUID="1644C98944C96BD5" /media/c ext4 defaults 0 1"04:26
bioterrorno04:26
bioterrorUUID=bfa41bd1-7e44-4f6a-ba1d-70914f53ea35 my UUID04:26
bioterrorthat looks right04:27
marionthese are ntfs partitions04:27
bioterrorokay, then change ext4 to NTFS04:27
bioterrorand remove "" from the UUID04:28
mariondoes the defaults 0 1 do anything04:28
bioterroryou want actually to use ntfs-3g04:28
bioterrorinstead of that ext404:28
bioterror# NTFS ~ Use ntfs-3g for write access (rw)04:28
bioterror# /dev/hda104:28
bioterrorUUID=12102C02102CEB83  /media/windows  ntfs-3g  auto,users,uid=1000,gid=100,dmask=027,fmask=137,utf8  0  004:29
bioterrorthat looks correct04:29
bioterrorjust replace UUID with your's and windows with c04:29
bioterrorand you're ready to reboot and test ;)04:29
holsteinbioterror: you need to chown /media/c ?04:29
bioterrornow I'm off to take kids to daycare at grannies04:29
marioncause i have a second partition i want to mount to media/d so it would be "/dev/sdb1 UUID=1644C98944C96BD5 /media/c ntfs-3g defaults 0 104:29
bioterrorholstein, no need for chown04:29
holsteincool :)04:29
holsteinbioterror: safe travels04:29
bioterrorholstein, as you can see, the UUID GID DMAS FMASKadsasd does it ;)04:30
bioterrorholstein, I'm gonna drive like a maniac!04:30
holsteinhehe04:30
bioterrorevery day I'm trying to make a BMW or Audi drive behind a truck :)04:30
bioterrormarion, forget that /dev/sdb04:31
bioterrormarion, use just UUID ;)04:31
marionbio with the defaults 0 1?04:31
bioterrormarion, you want to specify some magic words to NTFS -partitions04:31
bioterrormarion, those are just check thingies on boot04:31
marionwhat is this stuff you put "ntfs-3g users,uid=1000,gid=100,dmask=027,fmask=137,utf8  0  0"04:32
bioterrorthat's what you want to add to ntfs partition04:32
bioterrorntfs is more trouble some04:32
bioterrorI didnt first know you were talking about NTFS ;)04:33
marionso i need to add this? "UUID=1644C98944C96BD5 /media/c ntfs-3g users,uid=1000,gid=100,dmask=027,fmask=137,utf8  0  0"04:33
bioterrorbut now, I'm off04:33
bioterroryes04:33
bioterrornow you got it04:33
marionand just change the uuid and the mount point for the second partition?04:33
marionhey holstein when i use the command nano -w /etc/fstab how do i save what i add04:38
holsteincontol+O is "write out"04:39
holsteincontrol+o then control+x04:39
marionok heres hoping this works time to reboot04:40
mikodoHello, I have been using #ubuntu on Xchat. As I always have No0b questions, is this a better place to ask them? #ubuntu goes quite fast, it seems slower her.04:55
ApOgEEhi mikodo, how can i help you?04:56
mikodoAp0gEE, Hello ... just want to know if this a better place for newbies to ask questions than #ubuntu04:57
ApOgEEmikodo: yes it is04:57
philipballewthis is the best place :)04:58
mikodoAp0gEE, does this chat have the featue where you type the first three letters of the peson's nic and do something like hit <tab> for completion of it?04:59
ApOgEEmikodo: try it04:59
ApOgEEI'm currently using irssi, I can say yes. I can do that here.05:00
mikodoApOgEE: Oh, I was typing a 0 instead of a o in your nic...05:00
ApOgEEmikodo: nice05:00
stlsaintmikodo: that is client based...nothing to do with freenode or the channel05:00
* philipballew wonders what mikodo is using05:00
stlsaintphilipballew: xchat05:00
philipballewme to!05:00
philipballewif you need any xchat specific questions i can maybe answer05:01
ApOgEECTCP VERSION reply from mikodo: qwebirc v0.90, copyright (C) 2008-2010 Chris Porter and the qwebirc project -- Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20100101  Firefox/7.0.105:01
ApOgEEphilipballew: it is the web client for #ubuntu-beginners05:02
ApOgEEisn't it mikodo ?05:02
mikodoIt fits for me05:02
ApOgEEcool05:03
philipballewcool05:03
stlsaint07:55 < mikodo> Hello, I have been using #ubuntu on Xchat. As I always have No0b questions, is this a better place to ask them? #ubuntu goes quite fast, it  seems slower her.05:04
stlsaint^^ hence i thought you were using xchat05:04
mikodoWell, thanks everyone, I will be sure to be back with questions. I like the pace here a little better...05:04
mikodostlsaint: No worries05:05
mikodoWhat would the ubuntu default perms be for /home/user/Documents/  be? for Documents would it be 755? Same for any docs in Documents 755?05:13
mikodoHow about the perms for an external drive @ /media/UUID/backintime be /media 755 root:root ;>UUiD> user at user-desktop (755) and at /media/UUID/backintime), would it be 755 also?05:20
mikodowell, excuse me while I go out for a smoke and check to see if I see any witches around...05:23
mikodonope, not witches05:28
mikodofat figured that "No Witches"05:29
ChaciousHello everyone05:53
philipballewChacious, hello05:56
Chacioushey05:58
Chacioushow u doing?05:58
philipballewi am going good Chacious how are you doing?05:59
Chaciousgood just browsing the web and researching more boinc projects05:59
Chaciouswhat are you up to?06:00
philipballewoh cool. I am blogging. How is ubuntu working for you?06:00
Chaciousgood i have it running as a server06:01
Chacioushad ubuntu 11.10 server running but had issues getting boinc setup through command line so installed the desktop version instead06:01
philipballewhum. what kinds of issues?06:01
philipballewif you want to run a gui on a server i would recomend lxde or openbox06:02
Chaciouswindow maker doesnt work well for some reason haha06:03
Chacioushad issues getting it attatched, think it was just my inexpierence as of late with linux commands06:04
bioterrorholstein, he never came back, so it must have worked :)06:11
Chacioussweet i didnt think my boinc account manager was correctly working with my ubuntu setup but i just added a project through it and synced with ubuntu and it added it to the list06:17
mikodo_say, how do I read back to see if anyone answered a question?07:12
Chaciousyou mean in this channel?07:13
mikodo_Chacious: yes07:13
Chaciousyou could scroll up have you tried that?07:14
Chaciousnot being sarcastic07:14
Chaciousalso if you save your logs, you can look through them07:14
mikodo_Chacious: scrolling doesn't work for me; how does on save logs07:15
Chaciousitsi nthe settings its not something that can help with previously answered questions if you dont save logs but if you go into your settings there should be available settings to save the conversation that goes on07:16
mikodo_Thanks. I watch for that in the future:)07:17
Chaciousare you on a command line chat program?07:17
mikodo_Chacious: I am in Firefox07:19
ChaciousO ic07:19
Chaciousxchat has an app for linux07:20
Chaciousif you wanted to use that07:20
Chaciousit can save logs07:20
mikodo_Well I use Xchat for #ubuntu/xubuntu/Xfce, but followed to here from a link in Ubuntu Forums. I will look for it in Xchat07:21
Chaciousare you relatively new to linux? jus curious07:21
Chaciousim watching the show " through the wormhole" pritty interesting :)07:22
mikodo__Chacious, do see me here07:23
Chaciousyes07:24
Chacious:)07:24
mikodo__Great! now to remember what you said in earlier about being able to see earlier logs; what was that?07:24
Chaciousare you using xchat?07:25
mikodo__yes07:25
Chaciousit wont work retroactively, but for the future it will be handy07:25
mikodo__OK07:25
Chaciousgo into settings > preferences07:25
mikodo__yes07:26
Chaciousunder chatting go to logging07:26
mikodo__yes07:26
Chaciousmake sure display scrollback from previous session and enable logging of converstaions to disk is enabled07:26
mikodo__done! Where will it be saved07:27
Chaciousif you need to see where these logs are being kept click on the bottom left open data folder07:27
mikodo__Thanks a bunch Chacious07:27
Chaciousno problem :) im very glad to be of help :)07:28
Chaciousfeel free to ask away if you need more help07:29
Chaciousits quite helpful when yo usays omeones name as you have been doing because than it shows up in red text for them to show out of a bunch of text, helps single so they know someone is talking  specifically to them07:29
Chaciouswhen you say someones*07:29
mikodo__Chacious, I'll try to remember to do that. I am trying to find where in my computer this is saved. It keeps going off the page.07:31
Chaciousmikodo__, what do you mean it keeps going off the page?07:33
mikodo__Chacious, I have Focus Follows Mouse; and if i click anywhere else, other than the window for it it disappears07:34
Chaciouso, ic07:35
mikodo__Chacious, I'll get it figured out; I am just distracted with our conversation07:35
Chaciouslet me know if i can be of assistance07:35
mikodo__Chacious, This is going to be great help in the future. Thanks :)07:36
Chaciousno problem :) your very welcome07:36
mikodo__Chacious, OK; I got it, it is "FreeNode-#ubuntu-beginners and now I can save the text.07:46
Chacioussweet good job :)07:47
Chaciousglad to hear your making progress07:47
Chaciousdo you plan on chatting on this server in the future?07:47
mikodo__Chacious, Thanks07:47
mikodo__Chacious, it will be more asking how to's07:47
Chaciousmikodo__, k, I am sure I will be around as well07:48
mikodo__Chacious, Kool07:48
ChaciousI am also in a couple other rooms07:48
mikodo__Chacious, wher07:48
Chaciouson this server07:48
mikodo__Well, it's 01:53 in Canada; I better go to bed! See ya!07:49
Chaciousgood night, see you later mikodo__07:50
mikodo__Goodnite07:50
Chaciousanyone else have this issue in ubuntu 11? you login and no matter whether last time you were logged in you lowered the volume or not the volume is on full blast?08:18
hobgoblinChacious: no - but I don't think that's a new issue - seen a lot of those on the forum08:19
Chaciouso really? dang08:20
Chaciousif you leave it logged in and just let it lock and not logout will it do the same thing?08:20
hobgoblinI can't answer that as I've never had the problem ...08:21
Chaciousk08:21
Chaciousim going to try it08:21
hobgoblinhttp://www.google.com/cse?cx=012285703143635244993:i9yr8qlpb18&q=full+volume+sound+#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=full%20volume%20sound%20&gsc.page=108:21
hobgoblinhave a look through some of those08:21
hobgoblinI'll have a proper look in a short while08:23
Chaciousthanks for the info08:23
Chaciousi gotta get a couple hours of sleep at least, new version of boinc is available so ill probably update it tomorow and i have that page pulled up so i will look at it, again thanx for the info08:23
hobgoblinit'd help to know what sound card08:23
Chaciousac97 audio08:30
alexandertohi, anyone around, I'm new here, need answers to some quick questions08:52
alexandertoI joined Ubuntu just for a few days, I read several links on Ubuntu website and wiki, like UbuntuDevelopers, QuickStart, MOTU etc...08:53
alexandertobut yet I still have no clue how do I start to contribute by writing code to fix a bug ??08:54
alexandertoI read the BugSquad link as well and also come to this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags08:55
alexandertoalso tried to visit https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=bitesize08:55
alexandertobut do I just assign myself to a bug and start digging into it?? how does it work?08:55
hobgoblinalexanderto: have you gone to this channel and asked?   #ubuntu-bugs09:01
alexandertolet me try, I was suggested by the wiki that I should ask in the #...beginners channels09:02
Chacioushello alexanderto09:11
alexandertohello09:11
ChaciousI was showering and heard your messages09:12
Chacioushow are you this morning/evening/afternoon09:12
alexandertoI'm good, it's 5PM here, I am in Singapore09:12
alexandertoand how are you Chacious?09:12
Chaciousdoing good alexanderto  im in the usa its 410am here09:13
alexanderto4AM ? haha staying up so late09:13
Chaciousya been working on some stuff09:15
Chaciousneat win 7 task manager has computer uptime09:15
Chacious2d 7h :D09:15
alexandertoare you saying you've been working on stuffs 2d straight?09:15
Chaciousno my computer has hehe09:16
alexandertoright, someone in #ubuntu-bugs given me some links09:16
Snicksieubuntu has uptime too ^^09:16
Chaciousyup 2 days there too09:17
Chaciousim running a week long trial of boinc crunching seeing how i will do and if i can expand from the projects i have right now a decent bit without sacrificing the current projectsi m running right now09:17
Chaciousprojects im*09:18
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Chaciouswell you guys have fun please excuse me, i must continue my research on some stuff I heard will be back shortly09:19
hobgoblinalexanderto: glad you got some links09:19
alexandertoyeah09:19
alexandertothanks hobgoblin, I got it from ubuntu-bugs09:19
hobgoblincool - glad I could help - even if it was just a point to somewhere else :)09:20
alexandertoyeah09:21
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bioterrorawww, bodhi is now one of those sherlock holmes guys ;)15:00
wisevoyagerDoes anyone here would recommended, which desktp environment most suitable for notebook or netbook with low spec?15:12
bdfhjkhi wisevoyager15:13
bdfhjkhow 'low' is your spec15:13
bdfhjk256Mhz ?15:13
bdfhjkless/more?15:13
wisevoyagerdun know how to check..15:13
bdfhjkMhz/RAM15:13
wisevoyagerRAm 1 GiB15:14
bdfhjkthat is not bad15:14
wisevoyagerintel Atom N45015:14
bdfhjkDid You try Gnome 3.0 ?15:14
bdfhjkI have similar spec15:14
wisevoyageryes, but running slower on my machine15:14
holsteinlubuntu has an interesting and easy to get to netbook interface15:15
wisevoyagerafter fresh install 11.10 I update to Gnome-shell15:15
holsteinKDE too, but i wouldnt call it light15:15
wisevoyagerholstein, why?15:16
holsteinwisevoyager: because i found it to be heavy15:16
holsteinbut, i typically just run a full desktop on my netbooks15:16
wisevoyagerso, what's ur suggestion?15:17
holsteini use 10.04 LTS with gnome215:17
holsteini recently install xubuntu and im just using full XFCE on my netbook right now15:17
wisevoyagerlol.. 10.04? why you still stick on this?15:17
holsteinwisevoyager: well, im just saying lubuntu has an easy to get to netbook interface that is very light weight15:18
holsteinand you can see it from the live CD15:18
holsteinwisevoyager: i consider the non-LTS releases testing15:18
holsteini have 11.10 installed on one netbook right now though15:18
wisevoyagerholstein, OK thx..15:18
holsteinand i'll install 12.04 early and see if can help test15:18
holsteinwisevoyager: if its a speed issue, i would go with lubuntu's netbook interface15:19
holsteinif its the UI, unity is really making headway in being that UI15:19
holsteinunified UI for everything15:19
wisevoyageryes, I'll get it now, :D15:19
holsteinunity is the default UI in 11.10 (normal ubuntu)15:19
wisevoyagerlubuntu15:19
holsteinwisevoyager: i installed normal buntu when i got this new-ish netbook (last week)15:20
holsteini tried unity (again) and checked out KDE and the KDE netbook... lubuntu and lubuntu netbook... i ran gnome3 and unity2d and XFCE15:21
wisevoyager0wh, really..15:21
holsteini tried some other things and really tweaked out a lot of stuff15:21
holsteinthen i reinstalled xubuntu 4 days later :)15:21
holsteinyou dont have to do it that way though15:21
holsteinwisevoyager: all of these share the same repos15:22
holsteinwhich means you dont have to choose between them15:22
holsteinyou can have the different UI's and choose between them at boot15:22
holsteinlubuntu = ubuntu = xubuntu = ubuntustudio... pretty much... for all intents a purposes15:22
wisevoyageryeah, I'm gonna try lubuntu 1st by now..15:22
wisevoyagerthx holstein :D15:23
holsteinthey are just customized versions of ubuntu with different UI's and different package sets, and some customizations15:23
holsteinwisevoyager: sure :)15:23
holsteinwisevoyager: also, try them live15:23
holsteinyou can see how the hardware works, and what the UI is going to be like15:23
wisevoyagerokay, I'll takes some times for both..15:24
wisevoyageri've try KDE yesterday and found that my mobile broadband dead15:25
wisevoyagermy usb dongle by Zte inc > k3565-z was not detected at all..15:26
wisevoyagernow at home I have wireless, still can go online..15:28
holsteinwisevoyager: right... but you can sort that out15:32
holsteinkubuntu = ubuntu15:32
holsteinso, all the pacakges that give you functionality are there, and useable (in theory)15:33
rathahi there16:24
rathaI just tried to install ubuntu 11.10 on VMware 4.0, and I get this message: "Software virtualization is incompatible with long mode on this platform. Disabling long mode.Without long mode support, the virtual machine will not be able to run 64 bit code"16:25
rathacould please anyone help ?16:25
Matt123123Hi, I'm new to linux and trying to install dropbox.  I've downloaded nautilus-dropbox and installed etc but when i try to ruin dropbox it tells me i need to proprietary daemon.  Any ideas?16:25
bdfhjkhi ratha and Matt12312316:26
rathahi16:26
Matt123123hi16:26
nlsthznMatt123123, did you install the deb from the dropbox site?16:26
Matt123123i went through the application installer in teh os16:26
Matt123123and also tried downloading from the site i think (might not have been dropbox itself16:26
Matt123123jsut tried drom dropbox and same story16:28
nlsthznMatt123123, typically as part of the install nautilus has to be restarted and the dropbox daemon gets downloaded and started... not sure why this wouldn't have happened in your case...16:28
Matt123123also, when i click 'ok' on the alert box telling em top get the daemon16:28
Matt123123it jams16:28
Matt123123and will only shut with xkill16:28
holsteinMatt123123: the installer?16:29
holsteinmabye the package you downloaded is bad16:29
Matt123123no, jsut the box saying 'go download the daemon'16:29
rathano ideas in my case ?16:29
Matt123123the installer doesn't launch16:29
holsteini would re-donnload16:29
holsteinmake sure you are actually launching the installer16:29
holsteinand try again from scratch16:29
Matt123123done several times :/16:30
holsteinMatt123123: maybe we can instigate this from the terminal so we get some feedback.. maybe an error message16:30
Matt123123removed fully using application manager and re-downlaoded16:30
holsteinMatt123123: i think its important to accept that it *will* work, you just need to aquire the skill :)16:30
nlsthznholstein, +a for terminal... maybe purge and re-install16:30
holsteinMatt123123: link me/us where you are getting the .deb from16:30
nlsthzn+1 I mean >.<16:30
* holstein high-fives nlsthzn :)16:31
Matt123123firstly i went through software manager16:31
Matt123123then16:31
Matt123123http://www.dropbox.com/downloading?os=lnx16:31
holsteinMatt123123: software center?16:31
holsteinMatt123123: are you 32bit or 64?16:31
Matt1231236416:31
holsteinso, let open a terminal and run...16:32
holsteinwget http://www.dropbox.com/download?dl=packages/ubuntu/nautilus-dropbox_0.7.0_amd64.deb16:32
Matt123123--2011-11-01 16:32:50--  http://www.dropbox.com/download?dl=packages/ubuntu/nautilus-dropbox_0.7.0_amd64.deb Resolving www.dropbox.com... 199.47.216.170, 199.47.216.171, 199.47.217.170, ... Connecting to www.dropbox.com|199.47.216.170|:80...16:33
Matt123123sitting on that16:33
holsteinthen, sudo dpkg -i whatever the package is called...16:33
holsteinMatt123123: right, so that makes me think you have an internet issue16:33
holsteinthat package needs internet to go out, after its installed, and *actually* install dropbox16:33
Matt123123hm16:34
holsteinhmmm indeed...16:34
holsteinMatt123123: run this...16:34
Matt123123well firefox connects, and after soem drama i managed to get the os to update16:34
holsteinping -c 8 google.com16:34
holsteinMatt123123: what drama? this is probably related16:34
* nlsthzn tested link and download works16:34
rathaholstein? i hope u can help me as well, after u're done with Matt12312316:34
Matt123123PING google.com (209.85.227.104) 56(84) bytes of data.16:34
Matt123123PING google.com (209.85.227.104) 56(84) bytes of data.  --- google.com ping statistics --- 8 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 7000ms16:35
Matt123123yeah that looks like a problem16:35
holsteinratha: take a look at this, and see if its familiar/relevant http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/cant-create-64-bit-guest-after-upgrade-to-vmware8-910353/16:36
rathamh16:36
holsteinMatt123123: thats not goo16:36
rathak16:36
holsteinand that is going to be the issue, im about 98% sure16:36
nlsthznratha, I don't know vmware that well but humor me a moment, the host is it 32-bit or 64-bit (and the version of Ubuntu your installing, is it 32-bit or 64)?16:36
Matt123123no idae about vmware, the machine came with windows 32-bit preinstalled, and to be honest i'm actually runnign Mint but as far as i could work out it's based off ubuntu so i assumed here woudl be as good a place to ask as any16:37
Matt123123but it si 64 bit16:37
holsteinMatt123123: the vmware stuff is for ratha :)16:37
Matt123123got it so the computer could actually see all its'ram16:38
rathavmware 4.o needs 64bit16:38
holsteinyour issue is the network Matt12312316:38
Matt123123ah, ok16:38
Matt123123sorry16:38
rathai try to install ubuntu 11.10 64b16:38
rathaand i have an i716:38
ratha2600k16:38
rathaso it should be able to run 64b16:38
ratha-.-16:38
holsteinMatt123123: that package just goes out and downloads the proprietary dropbox stuff16:38
holsteinratha: ability is not the issue16:38
holsteinratha: the error could be compatibilty related16:39
rathai installed the same vmware client and ubuntu on my notebook16:39
holsteinratha: you could install virtualbox from the software center, and try your luck16:39
rathaand didnt had any problems with that16:39
rathabut on my desktop pc ... i get that message16:39
Matt123123I set my proxies using: sudo gedit /etc/apt/apt.conf16:40
rathai run windows ... as OS16:40
Matt123123and saving: Acquire::http::proxy "http://snsproxy.nottingham.ac.uk:8080/"; Acquire::ftp::proxy "ftp://snsproxy.nottingham.ac.uk:8080/"; Acquire::https::proxy "https://snsproxy.nottingham.ac.uk:8080/";16:40
rathaand there I installed VMware Player16:40
Matt123123to teh file16:40
holsteinratha: thats helpful... the difference between the installations should tell us what the issue is16:40
rathai did the same things on both machines ..16:40
rathaLaptop has Win7 ultimate16:41
rathaDesktop win7 pro16:41
holsteinratha: im not familiar with either really16:41
holsteinvirtualbox is open and free and easy to try16:41
* nlsthzn doesn't know Windows virtualization either...16:41
rathawell VMware is just a virtualization software ..i supposed ..16:42
rathaand i installed ubuntu from the iso16:42
rathastrange ..16:42
holsteinratha: yeah, not sure... if windows is the host, you should try vbox, because i have first hand experience with vbox working on windows 7 home 64bit with ubuntu 32 as guest16:43
rathaah ... i know the difference16:43
holsteini cant speak for vmware on windows, though im sure its just something like that... something picky16:43
rathanotebook win7 ult ... is 32b16:43
holsteinratha: there we go :)16:44
rathawin7 pro on desktop is 64b16:44
holsteinthats what it seems to me, something 32/64 bit related16:44
holsteinjust from googling around a bit though16:44
holsteinnot positive16:44
rathacould it be ... that vmware doesnt  like 2 64b OS ?16:44
rathai mean ... it would let me install ubuntu either way16:45
holsteinor you need to emulate, or its a config setting on the host16:45
rathabut it says .... "no 64b funtionality"16:45
holsteinnot sure16:45
holsteini would use a 32bit guest on a 32bit host though16:45
rathabut on a 64b ?16:45
holsteindepends16:45
rathai mean..16:45
rathai got 16b memory16:46
holsteini still only have 2 64bit installs16:46
holsteinone server and one desktop16:46
holsteinnot a ton of personal experience16:46
rathaso u mean i should try installing ubuntu 32b instead of the 64b version ?16:46
holsteinwouldnt hurt16:46
holsteinits going to take some troubleshooting and trial and error to see whats going on16:47
rathaany idea what that "longmode" is ?16:47
holsteini thought it was relating to 64bit16:48
holsteinbut again, im learning from this as well :)16:48
rathacould be ...16:48
rathacause when i try to install..16:48
rathait just says "longmode is disabled for this virtual machine. Continue without 64b-support?"16:48
holsteincan you?16:49
holsteinthat makes me think its a settings16:49
holsteinsetting*, a config16:49
rathait askes me ..16:49
rathayes or no ..16:49
holsteinfor the host that allows 64bit guests16:49
holsteinratha: say yes this time, and no next time ;)16:49
rathai could take a look in my bios16:49
holsteinor, try and find out how to enable longmode in vmware16:49
rathamaybe vm support is not enabled there16:50
holsteinlongmode is a CPU feature?16:50
rathaif i choose yes .. it would install16:50
rathai have no idea ?!16:50
holsteinnot totally sure16:50
rathanotebook has a C2D CPU16:51
holsteinyeah, those are the kind of questions though, that will tell you16:51
rathaso actually way beyond i72660k16:51
ratha-.-16:51
rathai7 2600k16:51
holsteingotta run for a bit... good luck ratha :) ..i think you are on the right track16:52
rathaok, thx 4 ur help16:53
fosburgIs there an application to check the Ubuntu OS for problems and fix the problem(s)?17:40
hobgoblinin respect of what fosburg ?17:40
hobgoblindo you mean the OS or your installation?17:40
fosburgI get a message that something failed when shutting down.  its there for less then a second--no time to read!17:47
urlin2ufosburg, I would not worry you will see that sort of thing in streams of text on shutdowns, no biggie.17:49
fosburgIt's what I installed and kept updated17:49
urlin2uhuh17:49
urlin2udetails please17:49
fosburgNot to worry--in encouraging.  Thanks17:50
fosburgis encouraginf17:51
mariongreetings people18:22
marioni have something i have been trying to research i need to completely dissable my screen saver and the ability for my pc to go into power saving mode18:25
lalatenduMmarion: didn't get ur question18:45
hobgoblinlalatenduM: they've gone18:46
lalatenduMi didn't see that. Thanks hobgoblin18:46
hobgoblinwelcome - I was about to answer - got disconnected and then they were gone18:47
deper29Hey guys, I'm having trouble installing 11.10. When I boot from USB(or DVD, doesn't seem to matter) I get three options: Install, try, or check disc. No matter which option I choose, I get a black screen after and nothing happens. I have a GeForce GTX 550 Ti Video Card and an Asus P8Z68-V LE Motherboard with a 750 W PS. Help?18:58
lalatenduMdeper29: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=159276319:06
lalatenduMseee if it helps19:06
Chaciousafternoon everyone19:14
Chaciousany ideas?19:25
Chaciousoops wrong channel19:25
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stlsaintChacious: yo19:53
Chaciouswhats up stlsaint19:54
tenachIn Unity, how does one get alt-tab to work only on windows on a certain virtual desktop?20:28
Chaciouswhat version?20:32
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tenachChacious: 11.1021:07
tenachReloading brb21:08
nhrHi folks, my desktop is not starting at all after fresh install23:13
nhrLast message on the screen is Checking Battary state... [ OK ]23:13
holsteinnhr: did you get to the desktop with the live CD?23:20
nhrYes23:21
nhrActually this machine used to work with 11.10 earlier23:21
nhrBut since yesterday this problem started.23:21
holsteinnhr: might want to confirm its not a hardware issue then23:21
nhrSo I did a fresh install - and after fresh install it does not even start23:21
holsteini typically test the ram/hard drives23:22
nhrholstein: What do you want me to check?23:22
holsteinnhr: want?... you can check what you'd like.. if the motherboard is failing, or the graphics card, you might see behavior like that23:22
holsteinotherwise, its going to probably be the kernel verion, or you graphics hardware compatibility23:23
nhrHmm, I do remember getting a big update yesterday23:23
nhrStrange - it was working fine before that with 11.1023:23
holsteinmaybe you got to the desktop live, and when you install, you say 'install updates while installing' and the kernel is not jiving with your hardware23:24
holsteinnhr: i would have liked to have had you boot an older kernel *before* wiping23:24
nhrIt's same os23:24
holsteinnhr: ?23:24
holsteinthen where is the fresh install?23:24
nhrSince my machine started failing, I decided to try wiping out and try a fresh install23:25
holsteinregardless, when booting, hit the shift key to make grub show up, and see if you have an older kernel there to boot23:25
nhrlet me try that23:25
holsteinnhr: right, so the old failed install is not there any longer for the older kernels to be in23:25
holsteinbut... thats just one option23:25
nhrTried rebooting - I do get ubuntu splash screen and then it moves to text mode23:27
holsteinnhr: yup... you'll need to hit the shift key23:27
holsteinor edit grub to be unhidden23:27
nhrInteresting, if I keep the shift key pressed, machine does not start - dont have anything on the screen at all23:29
holsteinnhr: i would get a 10.04 live CD, i would also probably just install 10.0423:29
holsteinbut... im fairly sure this is graphics card related23:29
holsteinnhr: nvidia?23:30
nhrYes23:30
holsteinim surprised you can get to the desktop from the live CD23:30
holsteinanyways, thats going to be the deal23:30
holsteinnhr: can you get to another TTY?23:30
nhryes, I can23:30
holsteincontrol+alt+F1 or F223:30
holsteinnhr: OK23:30
holsteinso, i would try upgrading from there23:31
holsteinsudo apt-get update23:31
nhrDid that23:31
holsteinsudo apt-get upgrade23:31
holsteini would look for an xorg.conf file23:31
holsteinnhr: did you install a proprietary driver?23:31
nhrNope - I just keeping hitting next23:31
holsteincheck out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia23:32
holsteinyou should be able to try installing that from the CLI23:32
nhrDo you happen to know the package name for drivers?23:33
nhrI dont have graphical window23:33
nhrAnd that guide does not mention the package name23:34
nhrBTW xorg.conf has almost nothing - 4 lines defining the section - this one is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf23:34
holsteinnhr: you should be able to change the driver portion to vesa and get to the desktop23:35
nhrin xorg.conf?23:35
nhrIt does not mention driver at all23:36
* holstein says in a mechanics voice "theres you're problem"23:37
holsteinnhr: im not sure why you have an xorg.conf23:37
holsteinnhr: you can get to the live desktop from the installer disc?23:38
nhryes, thats how I installed it23:38
holsteinnhr: right, but from the desktop?23:38
holsteinor just the installer GUI?23:38
nhrit was just installer gui, let me boot from cd again23:39
holsteinright, thats the trick23:39
holsteinwhatever you get from the live CD's as far as a desktop is generally what you can expect to get otherwise23:39
nhrok, booting now - should be up in next 3-4 minutes time based on last experience23:40
holsteinhttp://itbubbles.wordpress.com/2011/10/19/ubuntu-11-10-onericocelot-ubuntu-does-not-start-after-upgrade-new-kernel-not-installed-lightdm-not-installed/23:41
holsteinis it just nvidia-current?23:41
holsteini havent tried it, and cant without having the hardware in front of me23:41
holsteinbut, im 98% sure you'll find the nvidia hardware is the issue23:41
nhrholstein: Yes, the pc is around 6 months old and as I said earlier, it was working fine with 11.10, have been using 11.0423:53
nhrAnd yes, I do get desktop with live cd23:53
nhrwith unity and all23:54
Chacioustenach, you ever get help on alt tab to control certain virtual desktop windows?23:54
holsteinnhr: not sure whats going on then.. i would probably either just go back to what works, or i would install, and *not* install upgrades while installing23:54
holsteini might even pop the network cable out23:54
nhrok23:54
holsteinthen, i would make a note of what upgrade breaks what23:55
holsteinand work from there with that knowlege23:55
nhrinteresting problem, tried looking at the logs - nothing interesting there as far as I can see23:55
holsteinwho *should* be dealing with the bugs for that is nvidia.. but that wont happen23:58
holsteinyou can get it working again though...23:58
nhrok, I'll log the question to forums also23:59
nhrAt least get the thread started23:59

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