[04:10] <asterismo> hi people
[04:10] <stlsaint> asterismo: sup
[04:10] <asterismo> is there anyway to get firefox scrollbar look like the other windows?
[04:10] <asterismo> say
[04:11] <asterismo> gnome-terminal?
[04:11] <asterismo> stlsaint > here i was reporting a couple of oneiric bugs
[04:11] <stlsaint> hrm maybe some ff themes around but im not a user of ff so im not sure
[04:11] <asterismo> overall very happy with oneiric
[04:11] <asterismo> what do u use?
[04:12] <asterismo> i tried epiphany-browser but it spectacularly crashed in gmail page...
[04:12] <asterismo> so i went back to ff
[04:13] <stlsaint> asterismo: i still run lucid
[04:14] <asterismo> but lucid still have firefox for main web browser
[04:14] <asterismo> what browser do u run?
[04:14] <stlsaint> chrome
[04:14] <stlsaint> chromium
[04:14] <asterismo> ok
[04:14] <ApOgEE> what's wrong with ff?
[04:14] <stlsaint> slow IMO
[04:15] <stlsaint> than chrome OR chromium
[04:16] <bioterror> chromium instead uses tons of RAM
[04:16] <asterismo> i was just asking if there is anyway to make firefoz scrollbar look like the other apps in oneiric ocelot
[04:16] <asterismo> like slick scrollbar
[04:16] <bioterror> asterismo, I think that depends on firefox's own theme
[04:16] <bioterror> just like in chromium, it's not tied into GTK
[04:17] <holstein> asterismo: its there still a global directory?
[04:18] <holstein> im reading that you should see scrollbar.css in there, and you can edit the look
[04:18]  * holstein looking for dir
[04:18] <marion> good evening everyone i have an fstab question i think i may have finally figured it out i just want to double check
[04:18] <asterismo> never heard of it
[04:19] <ApOgEE> asterismo: I don't think there is any... or yet
[04:19] <ApOgEE> marion: how can i help u?
[04:20] <asterismo> and i did not find any post about it
[04:20] <asterismo> it would be nice to have firefoz scrollbar looks like gnome-terminal's
[04:20] <marion> ok so i have a partition labeled sdb1 that i want mounted to media/c when I start so i want to know with this being an ntfs file system will "/dev/sdb1   /media/c   rw,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000" work correctly and give me read write access
[04:21] <holstein> asterismo: i found http://www.twistermc.com/1216/customize-firefoxs-scrollbar/
[04:21] <holstein> its old though
[04:21] <ApOgEE> +1 asterismo ... have you file a feature request?
[04:22] <bioterror> marion, that's easy
[04:22] <bioterror> mario: sudo blkid
[04:22] <bioterror> marion, pick that UUID of sdb1
[04:23] <bioterror> and then add line to fstab: UUID=insert-your-asdasd123-here /media/c ext4 defaults 0 1
[04:24] <holstein> marion: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive#Automatic_Mount_At_Boot
[04:25] <holstein> marion: its the "sudo chown -R USERNAME:USERNAME /media/mynewdrive" part i was talking about earlier
[04:25] <marion> holstein i have read it and i am still trying to figure it out
[04:25] <holstein> where /media/mynewdrive is whatever directory you are mounting
[04:25] <holstein> /media/c
[04:25] <holstein> marion: UUID is the way to do it too
[04:25] <bioterror> what's wrong with my guidance?
[04:26] <bioterror> it's that simple
[04:26] <marion> and by doing the uuid that will auto mount at boot?
[04:26] <bioterror> marion, just do as i wrote
[04:26] <holstein> refering to the drive by UUID is a good idea
[04:26] <marion> so does this look right ? "UUID="1644C98944C96BD5" /media/c ext4 defaults 0 1"
[04:26] <bioterror> no
[04:26] <bioterror> UUID=bfa41bd1-7e44-4f6a-ba1d-70914f53ea35 my UUID
[04:27] <bioterror> that looks right
[04:27] <marion> these are ntfs partitions
[04:27] <bioterror> okay, then change ext4 to NTFS
[04:28] <bioterror> and remove "" from the UUID
[04:28] <marion> does the defaults 0 1 do anything
[04:28] <bioterror> you want actually to use ntfs-3g
[04:28] <bioterror> instead of that ext4
[04:28] <bioterror> # NTFS ~ Use ntfs-3g for write access (rw)
[04:28] <bioterror> # /dev/hda1
[04:29] <bioterror> UUID=12102C02102CEB83  /media/windows  ntfs-3g  auto,users,uid=1000,gid=100,dmask=027,fmask=137,utf8  0  0
[04:29] <bioterror> that looks correct
[04:29] <bioterror> just replace UUID with your's and windows with c
[04:29] <bioterror> and you're ready to reboot and test ;)
[04:29] <holstein> bioterror: you need to chown /media/c ?
[04:29] <bioterror> now I'm off to take kids to daycare at grannies
[04:29] <marion> cause i have a second partition i want to mount to media/d so it would be "/dev/sdb1 UUID=1644C98944C96BD5 /media/c ntfs-3g defaults 0 1
[04:29] <bioterror> holstein, no need for chown
[04:29] <holstein> cool :)
[04:29] <holstein> bioterror: safe travels
[04:30] <bioterror> holstein, as you can see, the UUID GID DMAS FMASKadsasd does it ;)
[04:30] <bioterror> holstein, I'm gonna drive like a maniac!
[04:30] <holstein> hehe
[04:30] <bioterror> every day I'm trying to make a BMW or Audi drive behind a truck :)
[04:31] <bioterror> marion, forget that /dev/sdb
[04:31] <bioterror> marion, use just UUID ;)
[04:31] <marion> bio with the defaults 0 1?
[04:31] <bioterror> marion, you want to specify some magic words to NTFS -partitions
[04:31] <bioterror> marion, those are just check thingies on boot
[04:32] <marion> what is this stuff you put "ntfs-3g users,uid=1000,gid=100,dmask=027,fmask=137,utf8  0  0"
[04:32] <bioterror> that's what you want to add to ntfs partition
[04:32] <bioterror> ntfs is more trouble some
[04:33] <bioterror> I didnt first know you were talking about NTFS ;)
[04:33] <marion> so i need to add this? "UUID=1644C98944C96BD5 /media/c ntfs-3g users,uid=1000,gid=100,dmask=027,fmask=137,utf8  0  0"
[04:33] <bioterror> but now, I'm off
[04:33] <bioterror> yes
[04:33] <bioterror> now you got it
[04:33] <marion> and just change the uuid and the mount point for the second partition?
[04:38] <marion> hey holstein when i use the command nano -w /etc/fstab how do i save what i add
[04:39] <holstein> contol+O is "write out"
[04:39] <holstein> control+o then control+x
[04:40] <marion> ok heres hoping this works time to reboot
[04:55] <mikodo> Hello, I have been using #ubuntu on Xchat. As I always have No0b questions, is this a better place to ask them? #ubuntu goes quite fast, it seems slower her.
[04:56] <ApOgEE> hi mikodo, how can i help you?
[04:57] <mikodo> Ap0gEE, Hello ... just want to know if this a better place for newbies to ask questions than #ubuntu
[04:57] <ApOgEE> mikodo: yes it is
[04:58] <philipballew> this is the best place :)
[04:59] <mikodo> Ap0gEE, does this chat have the featue where you type the first three letters of the peson's nic and do something like hit <tab> for completion of it?
[04:59] <ApOgEE> mikodo: try it
[05:00] <ApOgEE> I'm currently using irssi, I can say yes. I can do that here.
[05:00] <mikodo> ApOgEE: Oh, I was typing a 0 instead of a o in your nic...
[05:00] <ApOgEE> mikodo: nice
[05:00] <stlsaint> mikodo: that is client based...nothing to do with freenode or the channel
[05:00]  * philipballew wonders what mikodo is using
[05:00] <stlsaint> philipballew: xchat
[05:00] <philipballew> me to!
[05:01] <philipballew> if you need any xchat specific questions i can maybe answer
[05:01] <ApOgEE> CTCP VERSION reply from mikodo: qwebirc v0.90, copyright (C) 2008-2010 Chris Porter and the qwebirc project -- Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20100101  Firefox/7.0.1
[05:02] <ApOgEE> philipballew: it is the web client for #ubuntu-beginners
[05:02] <ApOgEE> isn't it mikodo ?
[05:02] <mikodo> It fits for me
[05:03] <ApOgEE> cool
[05:03] <philipballew> cool
[05:04] <stlsaint> 07:55 < mikodo> Hello, I have been using #ubuntu on Xchat. As I always have No0b questions, is this a better place to ask them? #ubuntu goes quite fast, it  seems slower her.
[05:04] <stlsaint> ^^ hence i thought you were using xchat
[05:04] <mikodo> Well, thanks everyone, I will be sure to be back with questions. I like the pace here a little better...
[05:05] <mikodo> stlsaint: No worries
[05:13] <mikodo> What would the ubuntu default perms be for /home/user/Documents/  be? for Documents would it be 755? Same for any docs in Documents 755?
[05:20] <mikodo> How about the perms for an external drive @ /media/UUID/backintime be /media 755 root:root ;>UUiD> user at user-desktop (755) and at /media/UUID/backintime), would it be 755 also?
[05:23] <mikodo> well, excuse me while I go out for a smoke and check to see if I see any witches around...
[05:28] <mikodo> nope, not witches
[05:29] <mikodo> fat figured that "No Witches"
[05:53] <Chacious> Hello everyone
[05:56] <philipballew> Chacious, hello
[05:58] <Chacious> hey
[05:58] <Chacious> how u doing?
[05:59] <philipballew> i am going good Chacious how are you doing?
[05:59] <Chacious> good just browsing the web and researching more boinc projects
[06:00] <Chacious> what are you up to?
[06:00] <philipballew> oh cool. I am blogging. How is ubuntu working for you?
[06:01] <Chacious> good i have it running as a server
[06:01] <Chacious> had ubuntu 11.10 server running but had issues getting boinc setup through command line so installed the desktop version instead
[06:01] <philipballew> hum. what kinds of issues?
[06:02] <philipballew> if you want to run a gui on a server i would recomend lxde or openbox
[06:03] <Chacious> window maker doesnt work well for some reason haha
[06:04] <Chacious> had issues getting it attatched, think it was just my inexpierence as of late with linux commands
[06:11] <bioterror> holstein, he never came back, so it must have worked :)
[06:17] <Chacious> sweet i didnt think my boinc account manager was correctly working with my ubuntu setup but i just added a project through it and synced with ubuntu and it added it to the list
[07:12] <mikodo_> say, how do I read back to see if anyone answered a question?
[07:13] <Chacious> you mean in this channel?
[07:13] <mikodo_> Chacious: yes
[07:14] <Chacious> you could scroll up have you tried that?
[07:14] <Chacious> not being sarcastic
[07:14] <Chacious> also if you save your logs, you can look through them
[07:15] <mikodo_> Chacious: scrolling doesn't work for me; how does on save logs
[07:16] <Chacious> itsi nthe settings its not something that can help with previously answered questions if you dont save logs but if you go into your settings there should be available settings to save the conversation that goes on
[07:17] <mikodo_> Thanks. I watch for that in the future:)
[07:17] <Chacious> are you on a command line chat program?
[07:19] <mikodo_> Chacious: I am in Firefox
[07:19] <Chacious> O ic
[07:20] <Chacious> xchat has an app for linux
[07:20] <Chacious> if you wanted to use that
[07:20] <Chacious> it can save logs
[07:21] <mikodo_> Well I use Xchat for #ubuntu/xubuntu/Xfce, but followed to here from a link in Ubuntu Forums. I will look for it in Xchat
[07:21] <Chacious> are you relatively new to linux? jus curious
[07:22] <Chacious> im watching the show " through the wormhole" pritty interesting :)
[07:23] <mikodo__> Chacious, do see me here
[07:24] <Chacious> yes
[07:24] <Chacious> :)
[07:24] <mikodo__> Great! now to remember what you said in earlier about being able to see earlier logs; what was that?
[07:25] <Chacious> are you using xchat?
[07:25] <mikodo__> yes
[07:25] <Chacious> it wont work retroactively, but for the future it will be handy
[07:25] <mikodo__> OK
[07:25] <Chacious> go into settings > preferences
[07:26] <mikodo__> yes
[07:26] <Chacious> under chatting go to logging
[07:26] <mikodo__> yes
[07:26] <Chacious> make sure display scrollback from previous session and enable logging of converstaions to disk is enabled
[07:27] <mikodo__> done! Where will it be saved
[07:27] <Chacious> if you need to see where these logs are being kept click on the bottom left open data folder
[07:27] <mikodo__> Thanks a bunch Chacious
[07:28] <Chacious> no problem :) im very glad to be of help :)
[07:29] <Chacious> feel free to ask away if you need more help
[07:29] <Chacious> its quite helpful when yo usays omeones name as you have been doing because than it shows up in red text for them to show out of a bunch of text, helps single so they know someone is talking  specifically to them
[07:29] <Chacious> when you say someones*
[07:31] <mikodo__> Chacious, I'll try to remember to do that. I am trying to find where in my computer this is saved. It keeps going off the page.
[07:33] <Chacious> mikodo__, what do you mean it keeps going off the page?
[07:34] <mikodo__> Chacious, I have Focus Follows Mouse; and if i click anywhere else, other than the window for it it disappears
[07:35] <Chacious> o, ic
[07:35] <mikodo__> Chacious, I'll get it figured out; I am just distracted with our conversation
[07:35] <Chacious> let me know if i can be of assistance
[07:36] <mikodo__> Chacious, This is going to be great help in the future. Thanks :)
[07:36] <Chacious> no problem :) your very welcome
[07:46] <mikodo__> Chacious, OK; I got it, it is "FreeNode-#ubuntu-beginners and now I can save the text.
[07:47] <Chacious> sweet good job :)
[07:47] <Chacious> glad to hear your making progress
[07:47] <Chacious> do you plan on chatting on this server in the future?
[07:47] <mikodo__> Chacious, Thanks
[07:47] <mikodo__> Chacious, it will be more asking how to's
[07:48] <Chacious> mikodo__, k, I am sure I will be around as well
[07:48] <mikodo__> Chacious, Kool
[07:48] <Chacious> I am also in a couple other rooms
[07:48] <mikodo__> Chacious, wher
[07:48] <Chacious> on this server
[07:49] <mikodo__> Well, it's 01:53 in Canada; I better go to bed! See ya!
[07:50] <Chacious> good night, see you later mikodo__
[07:50] <mikodo__> Goodnite
[08:18] <Chacious> anyone else have this issue in ubuntu 11? you login and no matter whether last time you were logged in you lowered the volume or not the volume is on full blast?
[08:19] <hobgoblin> Chacious: no - but I don't think that's a new issue - seen a lot of those on the forum
[08:20] <Chacious> o really? dang
[08:20] <Chacious> if you leave it logged in and just let it lock and not logout will it do the same thing?
[08:21] <hobgoblin> I can't answer that as I've never had the problem ...
[08:21] <Chacious> k
[08:21] <Chacious> im going to try it
[08:21] <hobgoblin> http://www.google.com/cse?cx=012285703143635244993:i9yr8qlpb18&q=full+volume+sound+#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=full%20volume%20sound%20&gsc.page=1
[08:21] <hobgoblin> have a look through some of those
[08:23] <hobgoblin> I'll have a proper look in a short while
[08:23] <Chacious> thanks for the info
[08:23] <Chacious> i gotta get a couple hours of sleep at least, new version of boinc is available so ill probably update it tomorow and i have that page pulled up so i will look at it, again thanx for the info
[08:23] <hobgoblin> it'd help to know what sound card
[08:30] <Chacious> ac97 audio
[08:52] <alexanderto> hi, anyone around, I'm new here, need answers to some quick questions
[08:53] <alexanderto> I joined Ubuntu just for a few days, I read several links on Ubuntu website and wiki, like UbuntuDevelopers, QuickStart, MOTU etc...
[08:54] <alexanderto> but yet I still have no clue how do I start to contribute by writing code to fix a bug ??
[08:55] <alexanderto> I read the BugSquad link as well and also come to this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags
[08:55] <alexanderto> also tried to visit https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=bitesize
[08:55] <alexanderto> but do I just assign myself to a bug and start digging into it?? how does it work?
[09:01] <hobgoblin> alexanderto: have you gone to this channel and asked?   #ubuntu-bugs
[09:02] <alexanderto> let me try, I was suggested by the wiki that I should ask in the #...beginners channels
[09:11] <Chacious> hello alexanderto
[09:11] <alexanderto> hello
[09:12] <Chacious> I was showering and heard your messages
[09:12] <Chacious> how are you this morning/evening/afternoon
[09:12] <alexanderto> I'm good, it's 5PM here, I am in Singapore
[09:12] <alexanderto> and how are you Chacious?
[09:13] <Chacious> doing good alexanderto  im in the usa its 410am here
[09:13] <alexanderto> 4AM ? haha staying up so late
[09:15] <Chacious> ya been working on some stuff
[09:15] <Chacious> neat win 7 task manager has computer uptime
[09:15] <Chacious> 2d 7h :D
[09:15] <alexanderto> are you saying you've been working on stuffs 2d straight?
[09:16] <Chacious> no my computer has hehe
[09:16] <alexanderto> right, someone in #ubuntu-bugs given me some links
[09:16] <Snicksie> ubuntu has uptime too ^^
[09:17] <Chacious> yup 2 days there too
[09:17] <Chacious> im running a week long trial of boinc crunching seeing how i will do and if i can expand from the projects i have right now a decent bit without sacrificing the current projectsi m running right now
[09:18] <Chacious> projects im*
[09:19] <Chacious> well you guys have fun please excuse me, i must continue my research on some stuff I heard will be back shortly
[09:19] <hobgoblin> alexanderto: glad you got some links
[09:19] <alexanderto> yeah
[09:19] <alexanderto> thanks hobgoblin, I got it from ubuntu-bugs
[09:20] <hobgoblin> cool - glad I could help - even if it was just a point to somewhere else :)
[09:21] <alexanderto> yeah
[15:00] <bioterror> awww, bodhi is now one of those sherlock holmes guys ;)
[15:12] <wisevoyager> Does anyone here would recommended, which desktp environment most suitable for notebook or netbook with low spec?
[15:13] <bdfhjk> hi wisevoyager
[15:13] <bdfhjk> how 'low' is your spec
[15:13] <bdfhjk> 256Mhz ?
[15:13] <bdfhjk> less/more?
[15:13] <wisevoyager> dun know how to check..
[15:13] <bdfhjk> Mhz/RAM
[15:14] <wisevoyager> RAm 1 GiB
[15:14] <bdfhjk> that is not bad
[15:14] <wisevoyager> intel Atom N450
[15:14] <bdfhjk> Did You try Gnome 3.0 ?
[15:14] <bdfhjk> I have similar spec
[15:14] <wisevoyager> yes, but running slower on my machine
[15:15] <holstein> lubuntu has an interesting and easy to get to netbook interface
[15:15] <wisevoyager> after fresh install 11.10 I update to Gnome-shell
[15:15] <holstein> KDE too, but i wouldnt call it light
[15:16] <wisevoyager> holstein, why?
[15:16] <holstein> wisevoyager: because i found it to be heavy
[15:16] <holstein> but, i typically just run a full desktop on my netbooks
[15:17] <wisevoyager> so, what's ur suggestion?
[15:17] <holstein> i use 10.04 LTS with gnome2
[15:17] <holstein> i recently install xubuntu and im just using full XFCE on my netbook right now
[15:17] <wisevoyager> lol.. 10.04? why you still stick on this?
[15:18] <holstein> wisevoyager: well, im just saying lubuntu has an easy to get to netbook interface that is very light weight
[15:18] <holstein> and you can see it from the live CD
[15:18] <holstein> wisevoyager: i consider the non-LTS releases testing
[15:18] <holstein> i have 11.10 installed on one netbook right now though
[15:18] <wisevoyager> holstein, OK thx..
[15:18] <holstein> and i'll install 12.04 early and see if can help test
[15:19] <holstein> wisevoyager: if its a speed issue, i would go with lubuntu's netbook interface
[15:19] <holstein> if its the UI, unity is really making headway in being that UI
[15:19] <holstein> unified UI for everything
[15:19] <wisevoyager> yes, I'll get it now, :D
[15:19] <holstein> unity is the default UI in 11.10 (normal ubuntu)
[15:19] <wisevoyager> lubuntu
[15:20] <holstein> wisevoyager: i installed normal buntu when i got this new-ish netbook (last week)
[15:21] <holstein> i tried unity (again) and checked out KDE and the KDE netbook... lubuntu and lubuntu netbook... i ran gnome3 and unity2d and XFCE
[15:21] <wisevoyager> 0wh, really..
[15:21] <holstein> i tried some other things and really tweaked out a lot of stuff
[15:21] <holstein> then i reinstalled xubuntu 4 days later :)
[15:21] <holstein> you dont have to do it that way though
[15:22] <holstein> wisevoyager: all of these share the same repos
[15:22] <holstein> which means you dont have to choose between them
[15:22] <holstein> you can have the different UI's and choose between them at boot
[15:22] <holstein> lubuntu = ubuntu = xubuntu = ubuntustudio... pretty much... for all intents a purposes
[15:22] <wisevoyager> yeah, I'm gonna try lubuntu 1st by now..
[15:23] <wisevoyager> thx holstein :D
[15:23] <holstein> they are just customized versions of ubuntu with different UI's and different package sets, and some customizations
[15:23] <holstein> wisevoyager: sure :)
[15:23] <holstein> wisevoyager: also, try them live
[15:23] <holstein> you can see how the hardware works, and what the UI is going to be like
[15:24] <wisevoyager> okay, I'll takes some times for both..
[15:25] <wisevoyager> i've try KDE yesterday and found that my mobile broadband dead
[15:26] <wisevoyager> my usb dongle by Zte inc > k3565-z was not detected at all..
[15:28] <wisevoyager> now at home I have wireless, still can go online..
[15:32] <holstein> wisevoyager: right... but you can sort that out
[15:32] <holstein> kubuntu = ubuntu
[15:33] <holstein> so, all the pacakges that give you functionality are there, and useable (in theory)
[16:24] <ratha> hi there
[16:25] <ratha> I just tried to install ubuntu 11.10 on VMware 4.0, and I get this message: "Software virtualization is incompatible with long mode on this platform. Disabling long mode.Without long mode support, the virtual machine will not be able to run 64 bit code"
[16:25] <ratha> could please anyone help ?
[16:25] <Matt123123> Hi, I'm new to linux and trying to install dropbox.  I've downloaded nautilus-dropbox and installed etc but when i try to ruin dropbox it tells me i need to proprietary daemon.  Any ideas?
[16:26] <bdfhjk> hi ratha and Matt123123
[16:26] <ratha> hi
[16:26] <Matt123123> hi
[16:26] <nlsthzn> Matt123123, did you install the deb from the dropbox site?
[16:26] <Matt123123> i went through the application installer in teh os
[16:26] <Matt123123> and also tried downloading from the site i think (might not have been dropbox itself
[16:28] <Matt123123> jsut tried drom dropbox and same story
[16:28] <nlsthzn> Matt123123, typically as part of the install nautilus has to be restarted and the dropbox daemon gets downloaded and started... not sure why this wouldn't have happened in your case...
[16:28] <Matt123123> also, when i click 'ok' on the alert box telling em top get the daemon
[16:28] <Matt123123> it jams
[16:28] <Matt123123> and will only shut with xkill
[16:29] <holstein> Matt123123: the installer?
[16:29] <holstein> mabye the package you downloaded is bad
[16:29] <Matt123123> no, jsut the box saying 'go download the daemon'
[16:29] <ratha> no ideas in my case ?
[16:29] <Matt123123> the installer doesn't launch
[16:29] <holstein> i would re-donnload
[16:29] <holstein> make sure you are actually launching the installer
[16:29] <holstein> and try again from scratch
[16:30] <Matt123123> done several times :/
[16:30] <holstein> Matt123123: maybe we can instigate this from the terminal so we get some feedback.. maybe an error message
[16:30] <Matt123123> removed fully using application manager and re-downlaoded
[16:30] <holstein> Matt123123: i think its important to accept that it *will* work, you just need to aquire the skill :)
[16:30] <nlsthzn> holstein, +a for terminal... maybe purge and re-install
[16:30] <holstein> Matt123123: link me/us where you are getting the .deb from
[16:30] <nlsthzn> +1 I mean >.<
[16:31]  * holstein high-fives nlsthzn :)
[16:31] <Matt123123> firstly i went through software manager
[16:31] <Matt123123> then
[16:31] <Matt123123> http://www.dropbox.com/downloading?os=lnx
[16:31] <holstein> Matt123123: software center?
[16:31] <holstein> Matt123123: are you 32bit or 64?
[16:31] <Matt123123> 64
[16:32] <holstein> so, let open a terminal and run...
[16:32] <holstein> wget http://www.dropbox.com/download?dl=packages/ubuntu/nautilus-dropbox_0.7.0_amd64.deb
[16:33] <Matt123123> --2011-11-01 16:32:50--  http://www.dropbox.com/download?dl=packages/ubuntu/nautilus-dropbox_0.7.0_amd64.deb Resolving www.dropbox.com... 199.47.216.170, 199.47.216.171, 199.47.217.170, ... Connecting to www.dropbox.com|199.47.216.170|:80...
[16:33] <Matt123123> sitting on that
[16:33] <holstein> then, sudo dpkg -i whatever the package is called...
[16:33] <holstein> Matt123123: right, so that makes me think you have an internet issue
[16:33] <holstein> that package needs internet to go out, after its installed, and *actually* install dropbox
[16:34] <Matt123123> hm
[16:34] <holstein> hmmm indeed...
[16:34] <holstein> Matt123123: run this...
[16:34] <Matt123123> well firefox connects, and after soem drama i managed to get the os to update
[16:34] <holstein> ping -c 8 google.com
[16:34] <holstein> Matt123123: what drama? this is probably related
[16:34]  * nlsthzn tested link and download works
[16:34] <ratha> holstein? i hope u can help me as well, after u're done with Matt123123
[16:34] <Matt123123> PING google.com (209.85.227.104) 56(84) bytes of data.
[16:35] <Matt123123> PING google.com (209.85.227.104) 56(84) bytes of data.  --- google.com ping statistics --- 8 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 7000ms
[16:35] <Matt123123> yeah that looks like a problem
[16:36] <holstein> ratha: take a look at this, and see if its familiar/relevant http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/cant-create-64-bit-guest-after-upgrade-to-vmware8-910353/
[16:36] <ratha> mh
[16:36] <holstein> Matt123123: thats not goo
[16:36] <ratha> k
[16:36] <holstein> and that is going to be the issue, im about 98% sure
[16:36] <nlsthzn> ratha, I don't know vmware that well but humor me a moment, the host is it 32-bit or 64-bit (and the version of Ubuntu your installing, is it 32-bit or 64)?
[16:37] <Matt123123> no idae about vmware, the machine came with windows 32-bit preinstalled, and to be honest i'm actually runnign Mint but as far as i could work out it's based off ubuntu so i assumed here woudl be as good a place to ask as any
[16:37] <Matt123123> but it si 64 bit
[16:37] <holstein> Matt123123: the vmware stuff is for ratha :)
[16:38] <Matt123123> got it so the computer could actually see all its'ram
[16:38] <ratha> vmware 4.o needs 64bit
[16:38] <holstein> your issue is the network Matt123123
[16:38] <Matt123123> ah, ok
[16:38] <Matt123123> sorry
[16:38] <ratha> i try to install ubuntu 11.10 64b
[16:38] <ratha> and i have an i7
[16:38] <ratha> 2600k
[16:38] <ratha> so it should be able to run 64b
[16:38] <ratha> -.-
[16:38] <holstein> Matt123123: that package just goes out and downloads the proprietary dropbox stuff
[16:38] <holstein> ratha: ability is not the issue
[16:39] <holstein> ratha: the error could be compatibilty related
[16:39] <ratha> i installed the same vmware client and ubuntu on my notebook
[16:39] <holstein> ratha: you could install virtualbox from the software center, and try your luck
[16:39] <ratha> and didnt had any problems with that
[16:39] <ratha> but on my desktop pc ... i get that message
[16:40] <Matt123123> I set my proxies using: sudo gedit /etc/apt/apt.conf
[16:40] <ratha> i run windows ... as OS
[16:40] <Matt123123> and saving: Acquire::http::proxy "http://snsproxy.nottingham.ac.uk:8080/"; Acquire::ftp::proxy "ftp://snsproxy.nottingham.ac.uk:8080/"; Acquire::https::proxy "https://snsproxy.nottingham.ac.uk:8080/";
[16:40] <ratha> and there I installed VMware Player
[16:40] <Matt123123> to teh file
[16:40] <holstein> ratha: thats helpful... the difference between the installations should tell us what the issue is
[16:40] <ratha> i did the same things on both machines ..
[16:41] <ratha> Laptop has Win7 ultimate
[16:41] <ratha> Desktop win7 pro
[16:41] <holstein> ratha: im not familiar with either really
[16:41] <holstein> virtualbox is open and free and easy to try
[16:41]  * nlsthzn doesn't know Windows virtualization either...
[16:42] <ratha> well VMware is just a virtualization software ..i supposed ..
[16:42] <ratha> and i installed ubuntu from the iso
[16:42] <ratha> strange ..
[16:43] <holstein> ratha: yeah, not sure... if windows is the host, you should try vbox, because i have first hand experience with vbox working on windows 7 home 64bit with ubuntu 32 as guest
[16:43] <ratha> ah ... i know the difference
[16:43] <holstein> i cant speak for vmware on windows, though im sure its just something like that... something picky
[16:43] <ratha> notebook win7 ult ... is 32b
[16:44] <holstein> ratha: there we go :)
[16:44] <ratha> win7 pro on desktop is 64b
[16:44] <holstein> thats what it seems to me, something 32/64 bit related
[16:44] <holstein> just from googling around a bit though
[16:44] <holstein> not positive
[16:44] <ratha> could it be ... that vmware doesnt  like 2 64b OS ?
[16:45] <ratha> i mean ... it would let me install ubuntu either way
[16:45] <holstein> or you need to emulate, or its a config setting on the host
[16:45] <ratha> but it says .... "no 64b funtionality"
[16:45] <holstein> not sure
[16:45] <holstein> i would use a 32bit guest on a 32bit host though
[16:45] <ratha> but on a 64b ?
[16:45] <holstein> depends
[16:45] <ratha> i mean..
[16:46] <ratha> i got 16b memory
[16:46] <holstein> i still only have 2 64bit installs
[16:46] <holstein> one server and one desktop
[16:46] <holstein> not a ton of personal experience
[16:46] <ratha> so u mean i should try installing ubuntu 32b instead of the 64b version ?
[16:46] <holstein> wouldnt hurt
[16:47] <holstein> its going to take some troubleshooting and trial and error to see whats going on
[16:47] <ratha> any idea what that "longmode" is ?
[16:48] <holstein> i thought it was relating to 64bit
[16:48] <holstein> but again, im learning from this as well :)
[16:48] <ratha> could be ...
[16:48] <ratha> cause when i try to install..
[16:48] <ratha> it just says "longmode is disabled for this virtual machine. Continue without 64b-support?"
[16:49] <holstein> can you?
[16:49] <holstein> that makes me think its a settings
[16:49] <holstein> setting*, a config
[16:49] <ratha> it askes me ..
[16:49] <ratha> yes or no ..
[16:49] <holstein> for the host that allows 64bit guests
[16:49] <holstein> ratha: say yes this time, and no next time ;)
[16:49] <ratha> i could take a look in my bios
[16:49] <holstein> or, try and find out how to enable longmode in vmware
[16:50] <ratha> maybe vm support is not enabled there
[16:50] <holstein> longmode is a CPU feature?
[16:50] <ratha> if i choose yes .. it would install
[16:50] <ratha> i have no idea ?!
[16:50] <holstein> not totally sure
[16:51] <ratha> notebook has a C2D CPU
[16:51] <holstein> yeah, those are the kind of questions though, that will tell you
[16:51] <ratha> so actually way beyond i72660k
[16:51] <ratha> -.-
[16:51] <ratha> i7 2600k
[16:52] <holstein> gotta run for a bit... good luck ratha :) ..i think you are on the right track
[16:53] <ratha> ok, thx 4 ur help
[17:40] <fosburg> Is there an application to check the Ubuntu OS for problems and fix the problem(s)?
[17:40] <hobgoblin> in respect of what fosburg ?
[17:40] <hobgoblin> do you mean the OS or your installation?
[17:47] <fosburg> I get a message that something failed when shutting down.  its there for less then a second--no time to read!
[17:49] <urlin2u> fosburg, I would not worry you will see that sort of thing in streams of text on shutdowns, no biggie.
[17:49] <fosburg> It's what I installed and kept updated
[17:49] <urlin2u> huh
[17:49] <urlin2u> details please
[17:50] <fosburg> Not to worry--in encouraging.  Thanks
[17:51] <fosburg> is encouraginf
[18:22] <marion> greetings people
[18:25] <marion> i have something i have been trying to research i need to completely dissable my screen saver and the ability for my pc to go into power saving mode
[18:45] <lalatenduM> marion: didn't get ur question
[18:46] <hobgoblin> lalatenduM: they've gone
[18:46] <lalatenduM> i didn't see that. Thanks hobgoblin
[18:47] <hobgoblin> welcome - I was about to answer - got disconnected and then they were gone
[18:58] <deper29> Hey guys, I'm having trouble installing 11.10. When I boot from USB(or DVD, doesn't seem to matter) I get three options: Install, try, or check disc. No matter which option I choose, I get a black screen after and nothing happens. I have a GeForce GTX 550 Ti Video Card and an Asus P8Z68-V LE Motherboard with a 750 W PS. Help?
[19:06] <lalatenduM> deper29: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1592763
[19:06] <lalatenduM> seee if it helps
[19:14] <Chacious> afternoon everyone
[19:25] <Chacious> any ideas?
[19:25] <Chacious> oops wrong channel
[19:53] <stlsaint> Chacious: yo
[19:54] <Chacious> whats up stlsaint
[20:28] <tenach> In Unity, how does one get alt-tab to work only on windows on a certain virtual desktop?
[20:32] <Chacious> what version?
[21:07] <tenach> Chacious: 11.10
[21:08] <tenach> Reloading brb
[23:13] <nhr> Hi folks, my desktop is not starting at all after fresh install
[23:13] <nhr> Last message on the screen is Checking Battary state... [ OK ]
[23:20] <holstein> nhr: did you get to the desktop with the live CD?
[23:21] <nhr> Yes
[23:21] <nhr> Actually this machine used to work with 11.10 earlier
[23:21] <nhr> But since yesterday this problem started.
[23:21] <holstein> nhr: might want to confirm its not a hardware issue then
[23:21] <nhr> So I did a fresh install - and after fresh install it does not even start
[23:22] <holstein> i typically test the ram/hard drives
[23:22] <nhr> holstein: What do you want me to check?
[23:22] <holstein> nhr: want?... you can check what you'd like.. if the motherboard is failing, or the graphics card, you might see behavior like that
[23:23] <holstein> otherwise, its going to probably be the kernel verion, or you graphics hardware compatibility
[23:23] <nhr> Hmm, I do remember getting a big update yesterday
[23:23] <nhr> Strange - it was working fine before that with 11.10
[23:24] <holstein> maybe you got to the desktop live, and when you install, you say 'install updates while installing' and the kernel is not jiving with your hardware
[23:24] <holstein> nhr: i would have liked to have had you boot an older kernel *before* wiping
[23:24] <nhr> It's same os
[23:24] <holstein> nhr: ?
[23:24] <holstein> then where is the fresh install?
[23:25] <nhr> Since my machine started failing, I decided to try wiping out and try a fresh install
[23:25] <holstein> regardless, when booting, hit the shift key to make grub show up, and see if you have an older kernel there to boot
[23:25] <nhr> let me try that
[23:25] <holstein> nhr: right, so the old failed install is not there any longer for the older kernels to be in
[23:25] <holstein> but... thats just one option
[23:27] <nhr> Tried rebooting - I do get ubuntu splash screen and then it moves to text mode
[23:27] <holstein> nhr: yup... you'll need to hit the shift key
[23:27] <holstein> or edit grub to be unhidden
[23:29] <nhr> Interesting, if I keep the shift key pressed, machine does not start - dont have anything on the screen at all
[23:29] <holstein> nhr: i would get a 10.04 live CD, i would also probably just install 10.04
[23:29] <holstein> but... im fairly sure this is graphics card related
[23:30] <holstein> nhr: nvidia?
[23:30] <nhr> Yes
[23:30] <holstein> im surprised you can get to the desktop from the live CD
[23:30] <holstein> anyways, thats going to be the deal
[23:30] <holstein> nhr: can you get to another TTY?
[23:30] <nhr> yes, I can
[23:30] <holstein> control+alt+F1 or F2
[23:30] <holstein> nhr: OK
[23:31] <holstein> so, i would try upgrading from there
[23:31] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[23:31] <nhr> Did that
[23:31] <holstein> sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:31] <holstein> i would look for an xorg.conf file
[23:31] <holstein> nhr: did you install a proprietary driver?
[23:31] <nhr> Nope - I just keeping hitting next
[23:32] <holstein> check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[23:32] <holstein> you should be able to try installing that from the CLI
[23:33] <nhr> Do you happen to know the package name for drivers?
[23:33] <nhr> I dont have graphical window
[23:34] <nhr> And that guide does not mention the package name
[23:34] <nhr> BTW xorg.conf has almost nothing - 4 lines defining the section - this one is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:35] <holstein> nhr: you should be able to change the driver portion to vesa and get to the desktop
[23:35] <nhr> in xorg.conf?
[23:36] <nhr> It does not mention driver at all
[23:37]  * holstein says in a mechanics voice "theres you're problem"
[23:37] <holstein> nhr: im not sure why you have an xorg.conf
[23:38] <holstein> nhr: you can get to the live desktop from the installer disc?
[23:38] <nhr> yes, thats how I installed it
[23:38] <holstein> nhr: right, but from the desktop?
[23:38] <holstein> or just the installer GUI?
[23:39] <nhr> it was just installer gui, let me boot from cd again
[23:39] <holstein> right, thats the trick
[23:39] <holstein> whatever you get from the live CD's as far as a desktop is generally what you can expect to get otherwise
[23:40] <nhr> ok, booting now - should be up in next 3-4 minutes time based on last experience
[23:41] <holstein> http://itbubbles.wordpress.com/2011/10/19/ubuntu-11-10-onericocelot-ubuntu-does-not-start-after-upgrade-new-kernel-not-installed-lightdm-not-installed/
[23:41] <holstein> is it just nvidia-current?
[23:41] <holstein> i havent tried it, and cant without having the hardware in front of me
[23:41] <holstein> but, im 98% sure you'll find the nvidia hardware is the issue
[23:53] <nhr> holstein: Yes, the pc is around 6 months old and as I said earlier, it was working fine with 11.10, have been using 11.04
[23:53] <nhr> And yes, I do get desktop with live cd
[23:54] <nhr> with unity and all
[23:54] <Chacious> tenach, you ever get help on alt tab to control certain virtual desktop windows?
[23:54] <holstein> nhr: not sure whats going on then.. i would probably either just go back to what works, or i would install, and *not* install upgrades while installing
[23:54] <holstein> i might even pop the network cable out
[23:54] <nhr> ok
[23:55] <holstein> then, i would make a note of what upgrade breaks what
[23:55] <holstein> and work from there with that knowlege
[23:55] <nhr> interesting problem, tried looking at the logs - nothing interesting there as far as I can see
[23:58] <holstein> who *should* be dealing with the bugs for that is nvidia.. but that wont happen
[23:58] <holstein> you can get it working again though...
[23:59] <nhr> ok, I'll log the question to forums also
[23:59] <nhr> At least get the thread started