| khoover | DarwinSurvivor, why would it? only affecting this bloody thing. | 01:57 |
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| * FiReSTaRT trying to start a geek-fight and learn a bit from it.. here's the cause: | 02:00 | |
| FiReSTaRT | Unity 11.10 or Gnome 3.2? | 02:00 |
| DarwinSurvivor | khoover: did you have any other machines using wireless? | 03:29 |
| DarwinSurvivor | FiReSTaRT: Using gnome-shell here, but it's kind of glitchy (refresh stuff) | 03:30 |
| FiReSTaRT | thanks DarwinSurvivor.. i am almost tempted to give kde another shot.. but first.. sleep.. good night :) | 07:01 |
| khoover | DarwinSurvivor, yeah, they all seem to run fine | 10:53 |
| DarwinSurvivor | khoover: hmm. good for now, but things "fixing themselves" always make me nervous... | 10:54 |
| khoover | DarwinSurvivor, they're all windows boxes, and it's just this one ubuntu computer that's haywire. installed ubuntu as soon as i got it | 10:56 |
| DarwinSurvivor | well, there's not much you can do about it unless you can get the problem to come up again. | 11:08 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 11:34 |
| TheProf | Hello. I hope everyone is well. I need some help please with remote access for Ubuntu. I'm running 10.04 and the remote desktop manager says remote access can only be given from localhost. | 16:21 |
| TheProf | How can I access it from another Ubuntu machine on the same LAN? | 16:21 |
| dscassel | TheProf: What protocol? VNC? | 16:44 |
| Ve2dmn | The remote access client is VNC | 16:45 |
| dscassel | TheProf: If you're dealing with Windows, you need something that supports RDP. In 11.04, your best choice is probably a package called gnome-rdp. | 16:47 |
| dscassel | (gnome-rdp went away in 11.10 for some reason. So I've switched to a new thing called Remmina). | 16:48 |
| TheProf | Thanks for responding. Is this on the server I'm trying to access? | 16:48 |
| TheProf | better description: trying to access my laptop from my desktop. | 16:48 |
| TheProf | Both Ubuntu 10.04. I've been able to access other machines from the desktop no problem, just not this laptop. | 16:49 |
| dscassel | TheProf: You've turned on remote desktop sharing from the laptop? In Remote Desktop Preferences? | 16:51 |
| Ve2dmn | Did you enable the Remote desktop feature and did you check "ask for permission? | 16:51 |
| TheProf | In the remote desktop preferences I see it only allows connections from localhost | 16:51 |
| Ve2dmn | http://www.ubuntugeek.com/share-your-ubuntu-desktop-using-remote-desktop.html | 16:52 |
| Ve2dmn | That article was written in Dec 2006, but the basic concept is still valid :) | 16:53 |
| TheProf | Ve2dmn, Checking it now | 16:55 |
| TheProf | OK that is fairly straightforward. | 16:58 |
| TheProf | I have done it before successfully on other machines. The issue here is that it is rejecting the request. | 16:58 |
| TheProf | I'm not sure if it's a firewall issue or something else. | 16:58 |
| TheProf | Since it is indicating that it will only allow localhost connections. | 16:58 |
| TheProf | vncviewer from another machine is also showing the error 'connection refused' | 17:00 |
| TheProf | Ve2dmn, in that same article you sent me, there is an image under the heading 'For Security' -- in it there is a blue link 'vncviewer Ubuntu-desktop:0' - on mine it says localhost | 17:03 |
| Ve2dmn | Do you know what "localhost" means? | 17:27 |
| TheProf | Ve2dmn, I do yes. It is basically telling me I can only access it through itself. | 17:27 |
| TheProf | So therefore it's not reachable via the LAN | 17:28 |
| Ve2dmn | what did you used as a command on your desktop? | 17:28 |
| TheProf | vncviewer 192.168.1.201 | 17:29 |
| TheProf | which is the ping-able address of the laptop | 17:29 |
| Ve2dmn | Does it say localhost:0 or localhost:1 ? | 17:31 |
| TheProf | Ve2dmn, Neither actually. Just 'locahost' | 17:32 |
| Ve2dmn | and if you list process on the laptop is there any "vncserver" or anything similar? | 17:32 |
| TheProf | Ve2dmn, I'll check now | 17:35 |
| Ve2dmn | do a 'sudo netstat -anp' | 17:35 |
| TheProf | a 'ps aux | grep vnc' shows me nothing. | 17:36 |
| TheProf | I'll try netstat now | 17:36 |
| Ve2dmn | actually, more like a 'sudo netstat -anp | grep 590' | 17:36 |
| TheProf | Ve2dmn, nothing for port 590 | 17:38 |
| Ve2dmn | netstat -anp: | 17:38 |
| Ve2dmn | a for all | 17:38 |
| Ve2dmn | n for numeric ports | 17:38 |
| Ve2dmn | p for 'list process' | 17:38 |
| Ve2dmn | and you're looking for port 5900 | 17:38 |
| TheProf | Ve2dmn, nothing for port 5900 either | 17:38 |
| TheProf | could it be the actual server is not installed? | 17:38 |
| TheProf | I thought it was by default. | 17:38 |
| Ve2dmn | it's not starting, that's for sure | 17:38 |
| Ve2dmn | log-off and re-login just to be sure | 17:39 |
| Ve2dmn | (on the laptop) | 17:39 |
| willwh | hi guys :)) | 17:39 |
| willwh | you're trying to connect between ubuntu machines? | 17:39 |
| TheProf | Yes I am. | 17:40 |
| TheProf | Just logging in again. | 17:40 |
| Ve2dmn | yeah, but his vncserver (the ubuntu remote desktop) is not starting | 17:40 |
| Ve2dmn | found something online (in a forum): | 17:41 |
| Ve2dmn | " | 17:41 |
| Ve2dmn | I had this problem on my wife's laptop. Drove me batty for hours. In the end it turned out I didn't have the remote desktop service starting at boot. | 17:41 |
| Ve2dmn | I pulled up the start up apps menu and clicked the box to allow remote desktop to start at boot. | 17:41 |
| Ve2dmn | " | 17:41 |
| willwh | sounds about right. | 17:41 |
| TheProf | Isn't that the remote desktop manager? | 17:43 |
| TheProf | What's the specific name of the service? I'll check with chkconfig to see if the service is set to launch. | 17:44 |
| Ve2dmn | probably something related to 'vnc' or 'vino'. Can't remember which one... | 17:44 |
| TheProf | Vino | 17:45 |
| TheProf | just found it using apt - that's the one installed | 17:45 |
| TheProf | No service listing for vino | 17:45 |
| willwh | is it started? | 17:46 |
| Ve2dmn | it should be started at logon, not boot | 17:46 |
| willwh | http://www.ubuntugeek.com/share-your-ubuntu-desktop-using-remote-desktop.html | 17:47 |
| willwh | just to be sure | 17:47 |
| Ve2dmn | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers | 17:48 |
| TheProf | willwh, same link Ve2dmn gave me a bit earlier :) | 17:48 |
| Ve2dmn | in the vino section | 17:48 |
| willwh | ah ok | 17:48 |
| Ve2dmn | try 'netstat -anp | grep vino' | 17:49 |
| TheProf | Ve2dmn, Eww...you've got to use gconftool to activate remote access according to that wiki | 17:49 |
| Ve2dmn | sadly, that might be your only choise | 17:50 |
| TheProf | Ve2dmn, netstat vino shows 8 options, none of the the port we need | 17:50 |
| TheProf | Argh. | 17:55 |
| TheProf | gconfigtool did not work. | 17:55 |
| TheProf | iptables --list shows everything being accepted | 17:56 |
| Ve2dmn | 'netstat -anp | grep vino' | 17:57 |
| Ve2dmn | sudo that command, sorry | 17:57 |
| TheProf | Ve2dmn, Yup - 8 entries. | 17:58 |
| TheProf | But not for port 5900 | 17:58 |
| TheProf | Bingo! | 18:00 |
| TheProf | Some progress. | 18:00 |
| TheProf | I had to manually run the vino-server | 18:00 |
| TheProf | /usr/lib/vino/vino-server | 18:00 |
| TheProf | then the remote desktop preferences showed that I can access it using the IP of the laptop | 18:01 |
| Ve2dmn | thus, it should be started at log-on | 18:01 |
| TheProf | ...and I was able to access it from the desktop. Well that was horrible. | 18:01 |
| TheProf | Ve2dmn, right. | 18:02 |
| TheProf | But it doesn't seem to be. What's the best way to run that command each time on login? | 18:02 |
| Ve2dmn | Not sure what is wrong then... sorry | 18:02 |
| TheProf | Ve2dmn, essentially it's not autostarting. Which is fine as I can start it manually for now. Is there a recommended way to have a program automatically start? | 18:03 |
| Ve2dmn | http://jakeyoon.com/2008/11/19/enable-vino-vnc-server-for-login-manager-gdm-in-ubuntu/ ? | 18:04 |
| TheProf | Ve2dmn, great. Thanks very much for all your help! | 18:05 |
| Ve2dmn | Thank my boss for not giving me a hard time doing this at work... | 18:06 |
| TheProf | My thanks to your boss also! | 18:06 |
| dscassel | Thanks from me too, Ve2dmn :) | 18:08 |
| Ve2dmn | bah... I sort of do this for a living.... | 18:09 |
| TheProf | I am a biology person so I don't at all. | 18:10 |
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| tboy9999 | Good afternoon! | 21:11 |
| tboy9999 | has anyone tried accessing this channel from an iPad with an IRC client? | 21:12 |
| willwh | tboy9999: iSSH is your friend :P | 21:15 |
| willwh | I run screen & irssi on my server - and simply connect to it using iSSH :) | 21:16 |
| willwh | on ipod, ipad, iphone etc | 21:16 |
| willwh | I don't see why what kind of device you are using has ANYTHING to do with it | 21:16 |
| willwh | the only thing that matters is your IRC client works ; | 21:16 |
| tboy9999 | What about Colloquy | 21:17 |
| tboy9999 | Looked up iSSH - thanks! looks good | 21:19 |
| willwh | uh | 21:23 |
| willwh | uh oh | 21:23 |
| BobJonkman | 20 minutes to the IRC meeting. | 23:41 |
| BobJonkman | Can /you/ hold your breath that long? | 23:41 |
| dscassel | Uh... no. | 23:50 |
| * BobJonkman is in Kwartzlab for the Ubuntu-ca IRC | 23:50 | |
| * BobJonkman forgot to bring the 11.04 Ubuntu disks again... | 23:50 | |
| BobJonkman | Q: Who distributes the System76 Ubuntu stickers? | 23:52 |
| dscassel | Oh, yeah. I've got 11.10 CDs at home. Need to bring those to the Hour on Friday. | 23:52 |
| dscassel | BobJonkman: Me. :D | 23:52 |
| dscassel | Hakimsherriff should have some too. | 23:52 |
| BobJonkman | Five minutes... | 23:55 |
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