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ubuntuuk-planet[Laura Czajkowski] UDS-P Day 1 - http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/11/01/uds-p-day-1/04:02
MooDoomorning all08:52
Myrttimoin08:52
NET||abusehey guys.. ubuntu 11.10, can't find padevchooser08:57
NET||abusedoesn't seem to be in repos08:57
NET||abuseanyone know if it's been bundled into something else?08:57
NET||abuseonline manpages seems to think it should exist under oneiric08:58
NET||abusehttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man1/padevchooser.1.html08:58
NET||abusebut it's not showing up for me08:58
MooDoohttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+package/padevchooser08:58
TheOpenSourcererinfo !padevchooser08:58
TheOpenSourcerer!info padevchooser08:58
lubotu3`padevchooser (source: padevchooser): PulseAudio Device Chooser. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.3-2ubuntu4 (natty), package size 19 kB, installed size 132 kB08:58
NET||abusemaybe my sources aren't fully setup?08:59
NET||abusenope, seems i have universe and multiverse08:59
NET||abusebut that's a natty entry08:59
DJonesNET||abuse: Doesn't show up at all in a packages search for 11.1009:05
DJonesNET||abuse: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/padevchooser/+bug/85169509:06
lubotu3`Ubuntu bug 851695 in padevchooser (Ubuntu) "padevchooser is missing in Ubuntu 11.10" [Undecided,Confirmed]09:06
DJonesNET||abuse: It was unmaintained and has been replaced by pavucontrol09:06
DJonesBut then people have commented that its not a full replacement and the bug seems to be open and confirmed now09:07
NET||abusehmm, so can i stream my music from my no-speaker desktop to my laptop headphones easily wit pavucontrol?09:12
NET||abuseseems not09:14
DJonesLooks like you'll have to keep an eye on that bug09:16
bigcalmHiya peeps :)09:18
AlanBell!info gedit09:20
lubotu3`gedit (source: gedit): official text editor of the GNOME desktop environment. In component main, is optional. Version 2.30.4-2ubuntu1 (natty), package size 515 kB, installed size 1860 kB09:21
AlanBellhmm, bot thinks it should be returning natty info09:21
NET||abuseAlanBell: no, just the last change to the package was in May for natty09:22
NET||abusewell, possibly it just has that as the last record?09:22
NET||abuse!info subversion09:22
lubotu3`subversion (source: subversion): Advanced version control system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.6.12dfsg-4ubuntu2.1 (natty), package size 275 kB, installed size 1148 kB09:22
ali1234this happens every time09:22
NET||abuseor not,, :)09:22
AlanBellNET||abuse: yeah, separate issue, the bot should be pointing at oneiric09:22
NET||abusegotcha, i see now09:22
ali1234if you go into #ubuntu+1 you get oneiric packages09:22
ali1234at least you would do if it was open09:22
AlanBellthe lubottus have not been updated, will get that sorted09:23
AlanBellubottu has been, someone forgot the loco bots09:23
DJonesAlanBell: I thought +1 had been left open this time09:23
AlanBell+1 should be looking at precise now09:23
DJonesI guess it should be09:24
AlanBellnormally they just redirect to #ubuntu for a week or so to clear out people just interested in betas09:24
AlanBellthen open up for alpha level breakages09:25
TwinkletoesWhen using dpkg to install a .deb downloaded from a vendor (in this case, OpenVPN), and it needs dependencies, can dpkg do this for you or is it a manual install for each one using apt?09:26
awilkinsTwinkletoes, I think you can install it using dpkg, then do an apt-get install -f to fix missing pacakges09:30
dwatkinsapt-get -f install09:30
awilkinsOr that09:30
TwinkletoesAha... thank yu - sounds like a good idea09:30
TwinkletoesI know what you mean09:30
TheOpenSourcererHmm - My google reader seems to have lost it's tags09:32
TheOpenSourcerers/its09:33
daubersMorning09:40
* smittix is getting frustrated09:43
smittixCan't even create a button with quickly-create09:43
smittixheh09:43
matttmorning morning09:45
MooDoomorning09:45
dauberssmittix: Using quickly design?09:47
daubersWill run up glade for gui editing09:47
smittixYeah I have added a button its the coding side of things09:48
smittixKeep getting 'expected handler 'on_button1_clicked'09:48
daubersSo you haven't written an on_button1_clicked method yet?09:50
kirrusPlease tell me I'm not the only one thinking Google broke a perfectly-working reader? :(09:50
MooDookirrus: think TheOpenSourcerer has an issue as well09:51
Myrttiother than not finding the promised +1 button in the new reader, I don't really have a problem with it09:52
kirrusI always read full item content, can't find a way to turn it back on09:56
kirrusAt this rate I'm just gunna have to setup a planet..09:56
JamesTaitGoooood mooooorning all! :D09:56
Myrttioh man09:57
kirrusJamesTait: you're rather exuberant this grey morning :)09:57
MyrttiI'm so demotivated09:57
Myrttiwell, feeling demotivated09:57
smittixdaubers: the code I have written is def on_button1_clicked(self, widget, data=None): print "OPEN"09:58
JamesTaitMyrtti: How come? Would a hug help?09:59
MyrttiJamesTait: flying from UK to Finland basically just to go say hi to jobcentre ladies and to hear "because Nokia" is a bit demotivating. Also the weather is dull and depressing09:59
dauberssmittix: Can you pastebin that whole file?10:00
smittixwill do10:00
smittixdaubers: http://pastebin.com/di7i1VyM10:01
bigcalmRead that as "whole file system"10:02
dauberssmittix: It needs to be part of the class (i.e. it needs indenting one more) :)10:02
smittixdaubers: heh thanks.10:04
smittixWhat a dumbass.10:04
JamesTaitMyrtti: I also struggle with the weather at this time of the year. It's bright outside at the moment, but I know it's not going to last, which kind of makes it worse.10:04
TheOpenSourcererkirrus: http://googlereader.blogspot.com/10:04
JamesTaitMyrtti: But I'm thankful for being a part of such a great community.10:05
smittixdaubers: Can I run bash commands from within python? ie; sed?10:06
dauberssmittix: You'll need to use one of the shell calling things (i.e. os.system)10:08
smittixdaubers: I'll read up on that thanks10:10
BigRedShosq10:10
BigRedSoops10:10
czajkowski*yawns*10:11
kirrusBigRedS: so, it's my turn to go to tesco and get coffee then?10:11
czajkowskiwith the rate I'm going I'll go back to UK and still wake up at stupid am10:11
tonytigerhah10:12
tonytigernice blog post czajkowski10:12
* MooDoo prods czajkowski wake up10:12
tonytigerIt's been too long since I went to a UDS: I almost wish I was there :)10:12
czajkowskiMyrtti: oi you quit it, Ihhave davmor2 poking and prodding me in RL10:12
czajkowskitonytiger: cheers tis a handy way of seeint what people do a s well10:12
MooDooczajkowski: you mean MooDoo don't you ;)10:12
czajkowskitodays sessions a bit harder not sure what I'll go to10:13
czajkowskiMooDoo: yes you stupid tab complete10:13
czajkowskiMyrtti: hi10:13
bigcalmHeh, I have a customer ID of 254 on somebody's system. This pleases me in a geeky way10:13
czajkowskitonytiger: tis ok you still have an action item :)10:13
tonytiger"great"10:16
czajkowskitonytiger: no no you need to say Thaaaat's Great like the realy kellogs Tiger10:18
czajkowski<---- maybe a slightly sleep deprivied10:19
tonytiger:)10:19
tonytigerYeah, you're making more sense than normal10:19
bigcalmBwuhaha10:20
czajkowski:/10:20
* bigcalm hugs czajkowski10:20
* MooDoo hugs bigcalm hugging czajkowski 10:20
czajkowskiwe had to explain the concet of poking and prodding and naughty step last night to people10:21
czajkowskidear gods they think it's entertaining10:21
MooDoopmsl10:21
* JamesTait was born on the 255th day of the year (256th in leap years).10:21
bigcalmHaha10:22
bigcalmczajkowski: it is :)10:22
* MooDoo was born on the 15 April 1972 as was my wife, son was born 10 09 08 and daughter was born 10 09 11 :) 4 family members 2 birthdays!10:22
bigcalmMooDoo: and just as expensive10:23
JamesTaitMooDoo: Wow, now that took some planning. :-P10:23
MooDoobigcalm: 18th and 21st on same day :)10:23
MooDooJamesTait: nah crap telly at christmas ;)10:23
czajkowskiMooDoo: you never have  an excuse that you forgot her bday10:24
JamesTaitMooDoo: More booze too!10:24
MooDooczajkowski: i know...10:24
JamesTaitMooDoo: Recently, February has been the time of rubbish TV. Hence my two boys' birthdays are within the same week in November.10:25
MooDoohehe10:25
MooDoojust think it's cool we have birthdays on the same day :)10:25
JamesTaitMooDoo: Extremely cool.10:26
bigcalmI like to forget my own b'day10:29
MooDoobigcalm: i'm forgetting mine next year10:29
JamesTaitbigcalm: At least I have something do deflect the attention every fourth year.  MooDoo has no excuse. ;)10:29
bigcalmMooDoo: Hayley and I are off to Ireland for her 40th nexy year10:30
bigcalmReally should save up a little more for it10:30
MooDoobigcalm: nice :)10:30
MooDoobigcalm: i'm hoping to go see les Mis in london but little un might be a bit too young to leave with people10:31
bigcalmAww10:31
czajkowskibigcalm: what parts?10:31
czajkowskithat has a massive effect on spending10:31
czajkowskiavoidnd dublin gives you more to spend elsewhere10:31
czajkowskigoing oto dublin very costly10:31
bigcalmczajkowski: we still haven't decided fully. Though we both want to see the Giant's Causeway10:32
czajkowskioh up in NI10:32
MooDooi might take bec to dublin for the weekend soon10:32
bigcalmYes, but we're not limiting outselves to IRE or NI10:32
bigcalmczajkowski: I think that the G'sC is the only thing that we've both decided upon so far. Everything else is an option :)10:34
czajkowskibigcalm: cool, so at present you;'re going to NI not Ire :)10:34
czajkowskiMooDoo: dpending o where you are, you can fly into galway/knock or shannon and see west cost a lot prettier if you want a weekend away and see some sights10:35
smittixdoes anyone know how to open the startup applications app from the terminal?10:35
czajkowskihead to Galway sooo pretty10:35
bigcalmczajkowski: in the past you have nit-picked about me saying NI rather than just Ireland10:36
czajkowskino I always say there is a differrenciation, I will say I'm from ie, but I dont go to NI  it's when people say am I from the south of Ireland I nit pit10:37
tonytigerczajkowski: how long till stuff starts over there?10:37
czajkowskibreakine start now10:38
czajkowskisessions kick off aat 910:38
czajkowskileadershummit this afternoon will be interesting10:38
czajkowski*leadership summit10:38
tonytigerSo it's what time there now?10:38
czajkowskitonytiger: 6:3810:38
matttczajkowski: what do you do within ubuntu?10:38
AlanBell9 is 1pm here10:38
czajkowskibeen up since 510:38
bigcalmmattt: she just abuses their employees10:39
czajkowskimattt: I'm on the Ubuntu LocOc council EMEA membership board and the community council, I do Ubuntu advoacy and a lot of usability testing lately10:39
tonytigerOK so two and a bit hours to go10:39
czajkowskiI also tend to rant a a lot10:39
czajkowskimostly about rugby :)10:39
MooDoomattt: you don't know who czajkowski is?  shame on you ;)10:40
MooDoomattt: czajkowski does indeed rant....;)10:40
matttczajkowski: thank goodness you're not english, or the ranting would be never-ending10:40
czajkowskiwe're going to  have another loco council session as yesterdays was really good but we ran out of time10:40
matttMooDoo: vaguely :)10:40
jacobwsounds interesting :)10:41
bigcalmpopey is alive then10:48
DJonesSo it appears10:48
popey:D10:53
popeysucking internet in room10:53
bigcalmHello popey10:53
popeyhi10:53
tonytigers/internet/.../10:56
bigcalmtonytiger's head is full of slurping noises :S10:57
smittixCan "sed" change a line in all files within a directory?10:58
ali1234yes10:58
kirrussmittix: just change sed -i 'matching regex' filename to sed -i 'matching regex' file list or *11:00
smittixta11:00
AlanBellthere is a UDS session at 2PM called "Meet with the Ubuntu Desktop Designers"11:20
iclebyteanyone found heartbeat to be unreliable?11:20
bigcalmThink it will be a busy one?11:20
AlanBellvery probably11:21
bigcalmFull of angry/bewildered people?11:21
iclebytei'm angry and bewildered11:22
iclebytewith heartbeat11:22
iclebyteand the apprentice11:22
DJonesHeartbeat and The Apprentice? Sounds like too much tv :)11:24
NET||abuseHmm , anyone use Cloudmin before?11:26
NET||abusestuck it on a 11.10 server and all has worked out well so far.11:26
NET||abusesetting up some vm's for testing stuff here, but wanted a nice management tool11:26
NET||abuseseems relatively simple so far, anyone else got experience with it?11:27
kirrusiclebyte: Nope, never had any problems with reliability with heartbeat. It's always been rock-solid for me11:36
popeymorning all!11:55
bigcalmThe 2nd second awakening11:56
DJonesMorning (just about)11:57
=== fReD_ is now known as Guest38501
Guest38501g'day all. I have a general networking in linux question.12:10
Guest38501When I assign a static IP I lose connection to the domain and can not ping the domain server. When I use DHCP it works just fine12:11
Guest38501The DHCP server starts giving out addresses from 170 and up but the servers are int he 25 range12:12
Guest38501I need this box to be 25-40 range12:12
matttNET||abuse: never even heard of cloudmin12:15
matttif it's anything like webmin *puke*12:15
tonytigerGuest38501: is the domain controller on the same subnet?12:17
tonytigerAlso, you will need to manually specify DNS servers on the client as well as IP address, subnet mask and gateway12:17
Guest38501The company is in the middle of a merge. My address range is 10.30.60.0 and theirs is 192.168.1.0. Their domain controller is what we need to connect to is 192.168.1.612:26
Guest38501My OpenFire server is 10.38.60.27 locally but I can not ping the AD controller to get accounts12:27
Guest38501*their AD controller12:27
Guest38501I've set rosolv.conf to nameserver 192.12:34
Guest38501*192.168.1.6 and 10.38.60.812:35
Guest38501(my gateway)12:35
andysimonshow many people here are at UDS?12:44
MooDoowish i was12:45
=== Girly-Girl is now known as GirlyGIrl
gordHappy mailman day!13:16
MooDoooh crap yeah, forgot abotu that13:16
bigcalmI find it rare to get any mail from mailman these days, let alone on the 1st of each month13:25
smittixDoes anyone here use quickly?13:39
ali1234i used it once13:49
oimonMooDoo: ping14:03
MooDoooimon: no one here but us chickens14:04
oimonyay14:04
oimonhave a quick question sir if you have the time14:04
oimonregarding htc desire14:04
MooDooi''ll try14:04
MooDoook14:04
oimonit seems i ahve S-ON14:04
oimonalthough i have CM7 installed14:04
oimonwere you able to permanently choose S-OFF?14:04
MooDoooimon: i'm not sure what it is.....14:05
MooDoojust reading14:05
smittixali1234: ahh, just having problems publishing my app.14:05
oimonbasically it's stopping me frmo upgrading clockworkmod recovery14:05
oimonwhich i need before upgrading CM70.3.->7.1.014:05
MooDooyeah i'm just going to reboto mine and have a look14:05
ali1234smittix: publishing?14:05
oimonMooDoo: i thought you updated CM regualrly?14:06
Myrttiquick question, what's the VAT in UK at the moment?14:06
smittixali1234: Uploading to my ppa14:06
MooDoooimon: i normally do use the daily build, but just upload the zip to my phone and use the rom manager14:06
oimonyeah, even that isn't working for moi14:07
Myrtti2014:07
Myrttiok.14:07
OliYeah 20%. Just smashing.14:08
MooDoooimon: i'm not sure then, i'll have a read and see if i can find anything14:08
oimonah, don't worry , i'll try running unrevoked again14:08
MooDoook sorry14:08
oimonnp14:08
oimon:D14:08
MyrttiI can't fathom why this site displays engagement prices with £XXXX+VAT. Surely it's a b2c sales and nobody buys engagement rings without paying VAT?!?!?!14:09
Myrttibaffling14:09
NET||abusehmm, looking at new phone on contract, Samsung Galaxy SII or HTC Sensation?14:10
oimonboth are nice14:10
NET||abusedoes anyone know if they've had any issues with mounting the Samsung filesystem?14:10
Dave2in what way?14:10
tonytigerMyrtti: maybe some people buy and resell them..? Dunno, sounds odd to me!14:11
NET||abusei've heard the first galaxy S  use  Robust FAT File System14:11
Myrttitonytiger: I suppose, it still doesn't make any sense to me. Weird as hell.14:12
Dave2well, I've had no problems mounting my SII14:12
NET||abusecool, ok good to hear14:12
NET||abuseoh, then i see this... http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s2-international/313715-samsung-galaxy-s-2s-filesystem-confirmed-ext4-d.html14:12
Dave2The root's ext4, the USB mass storage is vfat14:17
Dave2at least, this is what `mount` tells me14:17
dwatkinsAre you connecting to it with a USB cable, or have you placed the SD card in an adapter, Dave2?14:18
Dave2I don't have an SD card.14:18
Dave2this is the internal storage14:18
NET||abuseDave2: who'd you get the phone with? O2, vodafone? here in uK?14:27
Dave2O2.14:27
NET||abusewondering what the internal storage is.14:27
NET||abusesome specs say 16GB internal14:27
Dave2I got it when it was free on a £27/month contract.14:27
Dave2It's 16GB internal, 12GB available as USB mass storage IIRC.14:27
Dave2It's also got a microSD slot.14:28
NET||abuseyeh, i'm looking at vodafone free on 30/month14:28
NET||abuseDave2: application space?14:28
NET||abusei'm on an old Desire, and it sucks, i can barely install 10 apps before it overloads14:28
NET||abuseI had to uninstall google+ and flash to get it working again 2 weeks ago14:28
NET||abuseDave2: so is that 12GB free for apps? or is only the 4GB (which is stil way more than the Desire :P)14:29
Dave2You can move apps to the SD card, I think.14:29
Dave2With the "SD card" in this case being the 12GB of internal space.14:30
NET||abuseyeh, i did that as much as possible, but alot of them still won't uninstall their bulk from main memory14:30
NET||abusethe HTC Sensation only seems to have the 1GB internal... i think that makes the decision for me.14:37
NET||abusesamsung it is, bigger battery, super amoled screen,14:37
NET||abusethey're winning it for me.14:37
NET||abusei like htc for the physical build though, i think the sensation looks prettier14:38
Azelphuranyone recommend a cheap ubuntu compatible scanner?14:39
Azelphurdoesn't need to be super hd or last very long14:39
gordHP14:41
NET||abusesvn st14:44
NET||abuseoops, sorry14:44
AlanBellAzelphur: you might find a multi-functional device is cheaper than a scanner14:45
Azelphuryea I was just thinking a printer/scanner might come in handy14:46
AlanBellso you get a scanner with feeder, and a printer as well14:46
Azelphurhttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hewlett-Packard-DeskJet-F4180-All-In-One-InkJet-Scanner-Printer-/180747501508?pt=UK_CamerasPhoto_Printers_Printers_JN&hash=item2a1563ffc4#ht_500wt_1156 maybe this? :)14:47
Azelphurubuntu wiki says it's known to work :D14:47
Azelphurand google shopping puts the ink at about 5 quid, so think that might do the job14:48
AlanBellAzelphur: sheet feeder is nice though14:51
Azelphursheet feeder?14:51
AlanBellhttp://www.ebay.co.uk/ctg/Hewlett-Packard-4500-All-In-One-InkJet-Printer-/97476091?_dmpt=UK_CamerasPhoto_Printers_Printers_JN&_pcategid=171962&_pcatid=561&_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A5251&_trksid=p3286.c0.m1414:51
AlanBellput in a stack of paper and simple-scan pulls them all in and makes a PDF of the lot14:51
AlanBellif you don't want to do that then fine, but now is the time to decide :)14:52
AzelphurAlanBell: nah I don't particularly, I very rarely print or scan, probably a couple times in a year14:53
Azelphurno point in spending an extra 40 quid speeding the process up14:53
AlanBellyup14:53
Azelphurjust that for 15 quid there ain't much point in going to the shop and paying like £2 for it, when I could do it from the comfort of my home \o/14:53
Azelphurrighto then, I shall go for the F4180 I guess14:54
AzelphurI believe I've checked most of the common pitfalls, ubuntu wiki says it's supported and the inks seem to be around £514:55
ubuntuuk-planet[Jono Bacon] Leadership @ UDS - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/11/01/leadership-uds/15:02
oimonMooDoo: fyi i found something called revolution.io . my hboot was too new for unrevoked :-S15:03
KrisDouglasHello, has anyone else noticed if you start typing the name of a file in nautilus and delete some of the text, it moves back through the folders, using backspace as a nav button15:09
KrisDouglaswow that is terribly written15:09
KrisDouglasWhat I mean to say, is when you delete text from the "start typing search", it navigates back through the folders instead of deleting...15:11
MooDoothanks oimon15:12
ali12341i haven't noticed it but it doesn't really surprise me15:14
* oimon has spent too long fannying around with his phone today15:14
theashmanHi. How can I set a directory so that all files created under it inherit it's permissions?15:17
MooDoooimon: get some work done :)15:18
oimonyes dad15:19
MooDoohehe15:19
BigRedStheashman: use the setuid and setgid bits15:21
BigRedSif you check docs for each, you'll get a better explanation than I can manage :)15:22
BigRedSoh. those'll let it inherit its ownership, not permissions.15:22
BigRedSfor permissions you need to check umasks, but those are per-process rather than per-directory15:23
theashmanahh15:23
oimonanyone recommend a place to buy compatible ink15:24
czajkowskihttp://lococouncil.ubuntu.com/2011/11/01/loco-council-oneiric-cycle-review/15:26
* czajkowski waves at gord 15:26
gordczajkowski, i forgot what this session was about about 15 minutes ago =\15:35
czajkowskigord: TEA BAGS15:35
czajkowskimug of hot tea curled up with a jammy dodger and being back in UK is all you can think about15:35
* czajkowski stabs davmor2 15:35
gordonly one more day and i can go home :)15:36
czajkowskihope you're snowed in15:36
* davmor2 shaves czajkowski head15:36
ballOooh!  I should stick the kettle on.15:36
* czajkowski kicks davmor2 in the shins15:36
gordfound a picture of ducks though http://i.imgur.com/LPjQ5.jpg15:37
ballThat's ducking excellent!15:37
MooDoodavmor2: czajkowski stop fighting or go to #naughtystep15:44
Dave2(##)15:45
* Dave2 hides a bit15:45
davmor2MooDoo: I'm not fighting I'm shaving czajkowski head15:45
MooDoodavmor2: well stop picking on her and behave....15:45
davmor2MooDoo: I didn't start it :D15:46
MooDoodavmor2: czajkowski well i'm ending behave :D15:46
oimonMooDoo: did you flash your radio when upgrading to cm7.1?15:48
MooDoooimon: not that i'm aware of.  i did read somewhere i should of but i don't use radio15:49
MooDooso i didn't15:49
oimonit's not for radio though15:49
bigcalmMooDoo: if you use wifi or 3g, then you do15:49
oimoncontrols main functions of the phone15:49
MooDoohmmmmmm15:49
MooDooas you can see i just plowed into it and didn't take any notice of what i should be doing :D)15:49
buzz_sudo apt-get install sox; echo "main(t){for(t=0;;t++)putchar((t>>6|t|t>>(t>>16))*10+((t>>11)&7));}" >m1.c; make m1; ./m1 | play -c 1 -b 8 -u -r 8000 -t raw -15:50
bigcalmHeh15:50
buzz_from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtQdIYUtAHg (3 parts)15:50
oimonapparently it's a requirement for 7.115:50
MooDoooimon: i must of as 3g and wiress on my phone work ok15:50
oimonbluetooth?15:51
MooDoonot tried that15:51
oimonhehe15:51
MooDooone sec15:51
oimondon't ;)15:51
oimonthere's no all-encompassing wiki page for this stuff :(15:52
bigcalmI found that I had to install the bt file transfer app to be able to connect to my car's bt. Without it, you don't have an option of what pin number is used when pairing15:52
bigcalmIt worked when I had stock on the phone. I guess CM changed the default pin used from 1234 to 000015:52
oimonah, i might have that prob too15:53
bigcalmSince getting it connected, it works perfectly :)15:54
oimonbigcalm: what phone u have?15:55
oimoni can't find a safe site to tell me which radio to update to15:55
bigcalmoimon: Nexus One15:56
* daubers makes some coffee16:00
bigcalmWhere the flip are British Gas?16:01
davmor2MooDoo: no come over here and make us :P16:02
daubersbigcalm: Having a brew?16:02
DJonesbigcalm: Probably in manchester dealing with a burst water main that flooded the gas pipes, local radio has been talking about it for the last week, residents have been withough gas for about a week16:03
MooDoodavmor2: i wish i bloody could young man, czajkowski punch him for me will you :D16:03
bigcalmDJones: :(16:05
davmor2MooDoo: :P you wouldn't like the rain honest :D16:06
MooDoodavmor2: i'd get the wettest me being tall and all that :D16:07
mfraz74Just done an update and I'm getting this http://paste.ubuntu.com/725456/16:14
MooDootried apt-get -f install to install files that it's missing?16:17
mfraz74MooDoo: I've tried that, looks like it could be this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/83384116:17
lubotu3`Ubuntu bug 833841 in mesa (Ubuntu) "libgl1-mesa-glx alternative link" [Undecided,Invalid]16:17
oimonMooDoo: i decided that my radio version was new enough16:18
MooDoomfraz74: you going to try #5?16:18
mfraz74MooDoo: that's what i'm doing now16:19
mfraz74odd that i've never come across it before16:19
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* bigcalm demands British Gas!16:39
* BigRedS produces some16:42
* bigcalm cracks a window16:42
NET||abusehmm, last mobile question i swear,, any reason to go with vodafone or O2 over the other?16:43
AzelphurNET||abuse: depends what your after16:43
bigcalmThe both do nice television adverts16:43
NET||abuseboth are offering ~£35 / month with free galaxy sII, so that's all well and good16:43
bigcalmI like the bees16:43
NET||abusenetowrk wise i suppose, data speed16:44
NET||abusesecondarily call quality.16:44
DJonesWhich one has the best reception in your area16:44
bigcalmT-Mobile and Orange will give you the greatest UK coverage16:44
NET||abusemy cousin has moved to vodafone and swears he found it better the last year.16:44
NET||abusehmm,16:45
mfraz74Orange coverage is patchy around here16:45
bigcalmSo you want the sII rather than waiting for the Nexus?16:45
NET||abuseone other reason is that vodafone and O2 are back in ireland, and i can get the addons to ring people back home too.16:45
NET||abusebigcalm: how long for nexus?16:45
bigcalmSome time this month apparently.16:45
NET||abusebigcalm: i've just gotten to london and am in need of phone for work and various othe rthings16:46
bigcalmNET||abuse: I can't pin down a date other than this month16:47
shaunoI wouldn't trust o2-uk and o2-ie to pretend they're the same company.  it's going to be international minutes either way16:47
NET||abusenah, they aren't the same company sure, but they have a deal that my cousin uses and is free calls to named phones16:48
NET||abusebut they have to be coda-ie16:48
NET||abuseuh,, voda-ie16:49
NET||abusei'm not sure if O2 has a similar deal, but at least there's more chance16:49
NET||abusehmm, that's annoying,, what's better on this nexus than galaxy sII?16:49
bigcalmI hear mutterings of the 16th in the UK16:51
DJonesMost review/comparison's I've read suggest that the SII was slightly better than the nexus prime16:52
DJonesBut not much in it16:52
DJoneshttp://www.pocket-lint.com/news/42623/galaxy-nexus-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-216:52
bigcalmBut when will the SII get ICS?16:53
DJonesJan 12 apparanetly16:54
NET||abusebigcalm: what's ICS?17:05
MooDooNET||abuse: ice cream sandwich17:05
NET||abuse3.0?17:05
MooDoocode name for the latest version of android17:05
NET||abuseor 2.4?17:05
NET||abuseit's got 2.3 preloaded yeh?17:05
bigcalmNET||abuse: 4.017:05
NET||abuseah,17:05
NET||abuseright, i'm behind the times.17:05
MooDoohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history17:06
bigcalm3.0 is honeycomb, used by some tablets17:06
MartijnVdSMy tables has 3.2 now I think17:10
MartijnVdStablet*17:10
bigcalmMine has 2.3 and not very well implemented either17:11
MartijnVdS2.3? that's the phone version right?17:12
bigcalmYes17:12
MartijnVdSscary17:12
* MartijnVdS ordered a Galaxy Nexus though \o/17:12
sevistÏðèâåò íàðîä17:22
sevistíóæíà ïîìîùü17:22
sevistïîäñêàæèòå êàê äîáàâèòü íàáîð ïîëèòèê, ðàçðåøàþùèõ Power Management17:23
mfraz74I'm happy with my HTC sensation :)17:24
daubers!by17:24
DJones!ru17:24
lubotu3`Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.17:24
daubersDJones: Beat me to it17:25
DJones(Belarus ip, I'm assuming russian language)17:25
DJonessevist: The uk in ubuntu-uk is for United Kingdom17:27
MartijnVdS!uk17:28
lubotu3`Join us for a discussion using the Queen's English in #ubuntu-uk17:28
k3nz0Nigga stole my bike.17:41
bigcalm:(17:42
bigcalmWhy do trolls troll?17:42
smittixrandom17:43
AlanBelllooking for attention maybe17:43
smittixor the person that stole his bike17:44
bigcalmTsk17:44
AlanBellanyhow, anyone been following the UDS sessions?17:44
smittixI wish i could implant programming knowledge into my brain.17:44
smittixI watched the first live session17:47
BigRedSwhat's the name of that pub-on-a-train phenomenon?17:48
AlanBellrat17:48
AlanBellooooh they have opened up 2012 dates17:49
AlanBellhttp://www.watercressonline.co.uk/section.php?xSec=19117:49
AlanBellTheOpenSourcerer: popey ^^17:50
TheOpenSourcerer:D17:50
ali1234AlanBell: how do i access UDS sessions?17:51
AlanBellhttp://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/2011-11-01/ this is the schedule for today17:52
AlanBellif you click the little pen+pad image on a session slot it will take you to a page like this http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/meeting/19587/community-roundtable-tuesday/17:53
BigRedSAlanBell: Ta!17:53
AlanBellwhich is a shared notepad when you log in to it (launchpad password)17:53
AlanBelland below the pad is a link to the live audio for the room, whcih you can play with vlc17:53
AlanBellto talk back to people in the room, each room has an IRC channel which is projected to the room17:54
AlanBellso for that example the IRC channel is #ubuntu-uds-bonaire317:54
AlanBellhttp://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/meeting/19239/plenary-rackspace/ is starting now17:55
* bigcalm remembers how the on stage twitter fall was abused at the last lrl :D17:55
AlanBellvlc http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/grandsierra-d.ogg.m3u will play the audio stream17:56
smittixooh a quickly session.17:56
smittixSome of the user ideas are interesting17:56
ali1234do i have to sign in to every single meeting individually or does it remember?17:56
smittixespecially push ssh and pgp.17:56
AlanBellstarting here you can view the schedule by track or by day http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/17:56
AlanBellali1234: should be a one off thing (unless you have a paranoid security setup in your browser)17:57
ali1234blah it doesn't work17:57
ali1234i have to join ubuntu-etherpad group17:57
AlanBellok17:57
AlanBellI will approve you17:57
AlanBellmost people will be members of a loco team and pre-approved17:57
ali1234i haven't even signed the CoC17:58
AlanBellyou don't need to17:58
bigcalmI haven't even read the CoC17:58
ali1234ok i applied to join17:58
* AlanBell already added you17:58
smittixCoC?17:59
AlanBell!coc17:59
lubotu3`The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere, and can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct17:59
smittixahh duh17:59
smittixSigned it today :)17:59
bigcalmAlanBell: apparently there are already a few things booked in December. Any way we can kick start this thing so we might secure some dates? :)17:59
smittixfor use with quickly17:59
AlanBellsmittix: ah yes, you need it for a ppa18:00
AlanBellbigcalm: the RAT you mean?18:00
bigcalmAlanBell: na, the meal18:00
AlanBellbigcalm: yes, working on that18:00
bigcalmOk, great :)18:01
bigcalmHayley has told me to go on my own if she is already booked for the same date. Let loose in London on my own? Oh my18:01
AlanBellali1234: pad working now?18:02
smittixAlanBell: I'm having trouble using quickly uploading my project.18:04
bigcalmIs it well known that track changes in a word document do not show correctly in Libre Office?18:05
AlanBellsmittix: with the quickly share bit?18:05
smittixAlanBell: Yeah, I don't know how to set what ppa to upload to? Can't find any information on it.18:06
smittixLooks like it auto chooses /ppa but I kind of messed up by creating a ppa called "ppa" then deleted it thinking I could recreate it18:07
smittixWhich you can't, and you can't reinstate a deleted ppa :(18:07
AlanBelloops18:07
AlanBellI haven't used quickly for ages, that bit worked for me when I did it though18:08
AlanBellum, the people who can help get that fixed are going to be at UDS at the moment18:09
smittixYeah thought so. I will try and figure it out. It will give me something to do.18:09
AlanBellI would suggest taking some names at the quickly sessions then bugging those people next week18:09
popeyaquarius: seen jono?18:09
smittixAll this app does at the minute is easily unhides hidden startup programs from gnome-session-properties.18:10
AlanBellRick Spencer and didrocks are the main people I think18:10
aquariuspopey, not since well before lunch18:10
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Myrttiyou people and your UDS18:17
Myrttiyou depress me :-(18:18
* bigcalm hugs Myrtti18:18
* AlanBell presses Myrtti18:18
bigcalmHeh18:18
MyrttiOY18:18
* AlanBell undepresses Myrtti. Better?18:19
smittixYay got it on the project page anyway https://launchpad.net/autostart-changer18:20
smittixand messed the version number up in the process.18:20
AlanBellyay18:20
smittixDon't know if anyone else will find it usefull. It's one of the first things I head to on a new install.18:21
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davmor2czajkowski: prod, prod, proddy, prod, prod, prod18:26
ali1234AlanBell: thanks18:34
OliWow. BBC Tech just got the news that floods in Thailand have affected manufacturing. Shameful how behind the curve they are sometimes. You'd expect somebody there to subscribe to Slashdot (who were themselves a day behind the rest)18:39
AlanBellali1234: and anyone else not joined the launchpad team feel free to add yourself here https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-uk18:53
AlanBellnot that it does a great deal18:53
bigcalmThat's a lot of names18:59
MartijnVdSCan I turn off the "half-maximize" if I move the window to the right/left edge of the screen19:00
MartijnVdSI tend to do what with Chrome and it's almost impossible to restore the window to its previous size19:01
AlanBellMartijnVdS: look in the setings of the grid plugin in ccsm19:02
AlanBelledges tab19:02
MartijnVdSAlanBell: running ccsm crashes Unity/compiz for me19:02
AlanBellyeah, it is delicate19:03
AlanBellooh, you can set it to 1/4 maximise stuff19:03
AlanBellin the corners19:03
MartijnVdSooh you can tell it to do it only on bottom corners19:04
MartijnVdSwin19:04
MartijnVdSooh it worked without crashing19:05
smittixYeah when I change the launcher size it does nothing the first time. I have to logout and in again then change it again and it finally does it.19:07
czajkowskiohh thats laney19:20
Laneyallegedly19:20
MartijnVdSSome say... ;)19:21
Laneyso tempted to cowsay in the room's irc channel19:21
czajkowskiface <~> name19:21
Laney:-)19:22
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MartijnVdSLaney: Upstream banshee fixed "our" bug (dbus/gconf restarts)!20:31
Laneyyeah i was following it20:31
Laneywas a gconf bug20:31
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daubersHello20:53
MattJHowdy daubers21:07
MartijnVdSDoctor Who & Minecraft people: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTWaa2FCq-M21:19
cheekychappyhello21:23
MartijnVdS\o21:23
cheekychappyis this working ?21:24
tonytigeryup21:24
cheekychappycool never done this before21:24
tonytigerwelcome :)21:24
matttcheekychappy: keep your hands on the wheel21:24
cheekychappyhow do i find out who i can chat to?21:25
cheekychappyprivate message and all that jazz21:25
tonytigerWho do you want to chat to?21:26
cheekychappya bird with a brain21:26
tonytigerSomeone in particular?21:27
tonytigerThis isn't really a dating channel21:27
cheekychappyive just turned single after 15 years and would like a nice lady to chat21:27
cheekychappyi know that21:27
cheekychappyits just a conversation21:28
tonytigerThis is a channel to talk about Ubuntu software21:29
matttlolz21:29
cheekychappylol is it21:30
bigcalmSeems an odd channel to choose21:30
cheekychappyooopps21:30
cheekychappyjust looking for a chat with a few females my mistake21:31
mattt:/21:31
matttwould imagine freenode as a whole would be a bad destination for that21:31
tonytiger:)21:31
tonytigerYeah21:31
bigcalmNothing wrong with that, not sure freenode is where you'll find what you seek21:31
bigcalmtonytiger: has Laura stopped blinking?21:32
bigcalmWouldn't want her to disappear21:33
cheekychappyok happy chatting ta21:33
bigcalmchalcedony: good luck with your search21:33
cheekychappylol cheers21:34
bigcalmHow odd21:35
dutchiei suspect this is the "xchat joins #ubuntu-uk by default" thing again21:35
bigcalmOh21:35
XbertApparmor is not showing Firefox as enforced when it running, Firefox is set to be enforced, can anyone help me?21:36
matttdutchie: haha!21:37
daubersWhy is it glue fumes smell like pink elephants?21:42
bigcalmo.O21:43
bigcalmHow long have you been sniffing them for?21:43
Myrttipink?21:43
daubersbeen sticking stuff together for about an hour21:43
bigcalmMyrtti: do you have pink on highlight? :)21:44
Myrttibigcalm: yes.21:44
bigcalmHehe, cool21:44
Myrttioh dear god, take away this pain of new Gmail themes21:54
MyrttiI know I could revert to old gmail, but that would only postpone the pain21:55
XbertApparmor is not showing Firefox as enforced when it running, Firefox is set to be enforced, can anyone help me?21:56
ali1234Myrtti: there's a version of the new theme with less whitespace22:02
Myrttiali1234: I hate the colours22:07
ali1234but they have pink22:07
MyrttiI hate the pink one22:07
ali1234i got used to the new colours after about 2 days22:08
MyrttiDusk is closest to what I like22:08
Myrttithe pink needs to be more gray for me to like it22:08
ali1234they've put the ads back at the top of the page, good22:09
andylockran:)22:10
ali1234on the preview they were stuck to the bottom of the window and moved when you scrolled22:10
ali1234it was really annoying22:10

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