| LLStarks | bryceh, why would ironhide be chosen over bumblebee at uds? | 03:50 |
|---|---|---|
| LLStarks | ironhide is a dying project with zero transparency | 03:51 |
| tjaalton | LLStarks: nothing is being chosen | 03:52 |
| LLStarks | "Ironhide (formerly known as Bumblebee) is currently the best/only way to provide MUXless systems support." | 03:52 |
| LLStarks | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/meeting/19359/desktop-p-hybrid-graphics/ | 03:52 |
| tjaalton | yeah i'll remove that part | 03:53 |
| LLStarks | really? ironhide's dev doesn't talk to devs and his project is dead. | 03:53 |
| LLStarks | i'd really shy away from any solution that relies on virtualgl | 03:55 |
| LLStarks | we at the bumblebee team are trying to transition away from it and towards a more native approach like hybrid-windump, but run it through a secondary x server created by bumblebee | 03:56 |
| tjaalton | neither is going to be used | 03:57 |
| LLStarks | the virtualgl performance penalty is not trivial | 03:57 |
| LLStarks | i wouldn't mind waiting until 12.10 or 13.04 for proper nouveau support of optimus | 03:58 |
| LLStarks | i just find it disappointing that the uds notes would favor a piece of software while not consulting the wider hybrid graphics community that is eager to be actively involved. | 04:00 |
| tjaalton | uh | 04:00 |
| LLStarks | if you guys need guidance or documentation, we're here to help | 04:02 |
| LLStarks | i generally hang out in #bumblebee and #bumblebee-dev | 04:04 |
| LLStarks | not to belabor the point, but ironhide screws up a few things. it uses a needlessly cumbersome x server, it uses xv instead of proxy for image transport, and the acpi_calls it uses are not only incorrect, but dangerous for the machine | 04:08 |
| LLStarks | i should've been in antigua. my own damn fault for not attending in person or online. | 04:09 |
| tjaalton | it wasn't even discussed | 04:10 |
| LLStarks | then i guess i should just say lolphoronix | 04:10 |
| LLStarks | need to stop reading that crap | 04:11 |
| tjaalton | like i said, we're just going to focus on fixing the bugs where having a hg system will mess things up | 04:11 |
| LLStarks | there's only problems if you use nvidia blob | 04:12 |
| LLStarks | nouveau should be fine with optimus gpus as of 3.1 | 04:12 |
| LLStarks | *kernel 3.1 | 04:12 |
| LLStarks | imho, nvidia-current shouldn't be offered since the gl_conf settings get screwed up | 04:13 |
| tjaalton | oh geez, don't think michael was there either, my bad for pasting old notes with not enough time to clean them up first | 04:13 |
| bjsnider | LLStarks, what do you mean by "fine"? | 04:14 |
| bjsnider | only a few crashes? | 04:14 |
| LLStarks | no crashes. | 04:14 |
| bjsnider | no crashes at all | 04:14 |
| LLStarks | none, that i've encountered | 04:15 |
| LLStarks|Dell | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrCIpHvQRyQ (720p or up or will disply green) | 04:18 |
| LLStarks|Dell | sorry my internet cut out | 04:20 |
| LLStarks | not sure if the url went through | 04:20 |
| LLStarks | www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrCIpHvQRyQ (720p or higher needed or will render green) | 04:21 |
| LLStarks | what do you think, bjsnider? | 04:39 |
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| Sarvatt | any chance we could get the general xorg requirements session moved to a later day when we actually have some kind of idea how the lts backports are going to work? | 17:12 |
| Sarvatt | aka is it a new archive, or will we have to screw with package names to do it like the lts backport kernels | 17:15 |
| === broder_ is now known as broder | ||
| kusznir | Hi all: I'm having trouble getting 11.04 to use the intel driver instead of the vesa driver with I945GM hardware. Intel driver is installed. | 22:08 |
| kusznir | (so far, just booting "stock"; haven't tried any manual overrides; I don't know how to best override in current versions of Ubuntu) | 22:09 |
| kusznir | (I don't know if its related, but in order to get ubuntu to boot on this hardware I had to add the boot options acpi=off nolapic | 22:10 |
| kusznir | Actually, come to think of it, the reason I needed to do that was the entire box hard-locked when it would ordinarily set the font on boot (eg, shortly after the transition to the initrd). | 22:11 |
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