[00:00] <reisio> Majere_Draven: http://askubuntu.com/questions/2792/how-do-i-get-multiple-workspaces-in-unity
[00:00] <Stereocaulon> !ot| _rep_
[00:00] <qin> Stereocaulon: That it is pusleaudio issue, btw, do pulse see wine alsa plugin?
[00:00] <jellow> I do not have sound when I install pulse audio , How can I enable sound + pulse audio
[00:00] <Majere_Draven> I love Reisio
[00:01] <reisio> he's okay
[00:01] <kamiccolo> Lauratika, very sorry :S
[00:01] <kamiccolo> jxshxx, have You added DNS servers to Connection Properties? Are You sure, that those DNS servers are not down? Have You tried pinging 173.194.32.16  (google) or other ip?
[00:01] <Stereocaulon> qin, I'm not sure how to check that, in winecf I see winealsa.drv as loaded driver if you mean that.
[00:01] <lauratika> anybody eles?
[00:02] <qin> _rep_: man zip, man rar
[00:02] <Ibis> What does chroot command does exactly in Ubuntu? Does it actually "switch" operating system installed to a certain directory?
[00:02] <lloyd> Trying to get multimedia working on 10.04  One issue is that FF tells me "
[00:02] <lloyd> Microsoft Media Server (MMS) protocol source"
[00:02] <reisio> Ibis: nope
[00:02] <reisio> Ibis: man chroot knows, though
[00:03] <dddbmt_> Hi guys. I just updated my Chromium browser as on http://www.ubuntu-corner.com/2011/06/chromium-12-available-in-stable-ppa/ and now it wont start. Any great ideas?
[00:03] <qin> Stereocaulon: more: pacmd list-sink-inputs
[00:03] <lloyd> And so http://viewers.multicastmedia.com/asx_files/EWTN_Channel55_English_DomesticEnglish_100k.asx  just leaves me with black screen.
[00:03] <reisio> dddbmt_: use something that's in the repos instead?
[00:03] <sasori> hi, is it possible to downgrade 11.10 -> 11.04 ?
[00:04] <mkultra> probably not
[00:04] <sasori> is it a delicate process ?
[00:04] <orp> lol for what ?
[00:04] <reisio> sasori: it'll probably take you more time than backing up and doing a fresh install is all
[00:04] <sasori> me wants ubuntu SE, it's not compatible with ubuntu 11.10 T_T
[00:04] <lloyd> So how do I get FF to play .asx video streams?
[00:04] <reisio> sasori: what's ubuntu se?
[00:04] <reisio> lloyd: install gecko-mediaplayer
[00:04] <sasori> satanic edition XD
[00:04] <lloyd> reisio: tnx
[00:04] <mkultra> lol
[00:04] <reisio> sasori: isn't that a whole separate distro?
[00:05] <dddbmt_> reisio, I was trying to install V12 for CSS purposes. Is that possible from repos?
[00:05] <sasori> according to their site, it can be installed over an existing ubuntu..i didn't saw it's not compatible with oneiric :S
[00:05] <mkultra> satan would probably build linux from scratch
[00:05] <mkultra> build it in a virtual machine sasori
[00:05] <reisio> dddbmt_: what's wrong with 14 or 15 that chromium-browser gives?
[00:05] <qin> mkultra: Rather bsd
[00:06] <fade_> anyone here major in computer science?
[00:06] <mkultra> me
[00:06] <_rep_> <--
[00:06] <reisio> sasori: I guess it's mostly a GNOME 2 theme/set, then
[00:06] <mkultra> 11.10 is gnome 3
[00:06] <reisio> fade_: #supernerds
[00:06] <mkultra> gnome 3 trickle down
[00:06] <sasori> i dunno i dunno http://www.ubuntusatanic.org/installation.php
[00:06] <Stereocaulon> qin, no as far as I can see it does not. I only see a sink for my VBOX process, not wine. care for a pastebin?
[00:06] <jxshxx> kamiccolo, I've got 2 other computer running fine, and the one I'm on now is also Lucid.  Where do I look for connection properties?
[00:07] <sasori> http://www.ubuntusatanic.org/releases.php here's the list of their compatibility
[00:07] <Ibis> reisio: At the moment, I'm following this tutorial: http://forum.ovh.co.uk/showthread.php?t=3787         I can't chroot from a 32bit set up to a 64bit set up. (the /ubuntu).        I'm trying t to understand what's going on here.
[00:07] <fade_> what server is that channel on
[00:07] <Ibis> reisio: I done this before, yea on a real 64bit machine, but I'm working on a virtual machine that supports 54.
[00:07] <Ibis> 64bit*
[00:07] <dddbmt_> reisio, even better - didn't know that is was that high. I suppose that is available? How should I update it as it seems now?
[00:07] <qin> Stereocaulon: So you know why it is not playing. I am not keen with pulse.
[00:08] <reisio> Ibis: you still need a 64-bit environment to chroot into a 64-bit environment
[00:08] <kamiccolo> jxshxx, right click network manager applet -> Edit Connection
[00:08] <reisio> dddbmt_: is it even installed?
[00:08] <reisio> dddbmt_: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[00:09] <Stereocaulon> qin, here you are : http://pastebin.com/T1cA0Q8B
[00:09] <jellow> Why would pulse audio break sound ?
[00:09] <mkultra> pulse audio is a bitch, thats why
[00:09] <dddbmt_> reisio, yes it is.
[00:10] <mkultra> pulse audio broke my sound on slackware for the longest time, crackling effects
[00:10] <OerHeks> jellow,  after upgrade, all i had to do is remove ~/.pulse and sound was back
[00:10] <Ibis> reisio: But it's not offered on the server I'm working on. So I wonder if theres a work around. Like if I can apt-get install some packages to a different directory, as though it's the root directory orsomething (Basically, using apt-get to install for another system that is mounted in a different directory).
[00:10] <Stereocaulon> mkultra, Oh, my the crackling. Yes I know that one all too well.
[00:10] <mikodo> So, for my /home, would this be the proper settings: http://imagebin.org/181786
[00:10] <reisio> Ibis: you can yes
[00:11] <jxshxx> kamiccolo, Got it.  Can you tell me how to add DSN?  Don't see that option, poking around.
[00:11] <Stereocaulon> OerHeks, did you have any sound outside of wine?, because I do. Everything works, except wine
[00:11] <mkultra> nothing worse than making a beautiful hand build distribution and pule audio crackling everything up
[00:11] <Ibis> reisio: So that's what I'm looking for. If this works out pretty well, I can happy dance and know what to do in the near future and not stand around looking "dumb".
[00:11] <reisio> mkultra: you hand built Ubuntu, did you?
[00:12] <reisio> Ibis: debootstrap is probably what you want
[00:12] <jellow> OerHeks: Will try that thank you.
[00:12] <Simon___> Hi, I started a program on over a ssh connection and now i want to close my ssh connection without killin the process. I didn't use nohup when I started it.. is there anway for me to safely move it to the background without it hanging up?
[00:12] <kamiccolo> jxshxx. Wireless -> Click Your Wireless Network -> Edit -> IPv4Settings -> Add
[00:12] <Stereocaulon> reisio, I believe mkultra meant Slackware, not Ubuntu...
[00:13] <mkultra> yes slackware pulse audio problems
[00:13] <OerHeks> Stereocaulon, did you check alsamixer ?
[00:13] <kamiccolo> jxshxx. no no no, not add. Just write those dns ip's on their input.
[00:13] <mkultra> and linux from scratch also
[00:13] <reisio> Stereocaulon: still begs the question
[00:13] <Stereocaulon> OerHeks, yes of course, all channels are there and reacting beautifully
[00:13] <dr_willis> Simon___:   This is when its a good time to learn to start using screen or byobu by default over ssh.
[00:14] <mkultra> yes screens a good idea to learn
[00:14] <dr_willis> Simon___:  i think theres a way you can ctrl-z then some how detatch it .. but ive not had to do it in ages...
[00:14] <dr_willis> !info byobu
[00:14] <Simon___> dr_willis: If I had planned to shut down my connection i would have used nohup..
[00:14] <qin> Simon___: if it is 32bit, there is retty, to attack process to tmux or screen, fail rate 50%
[00:15] <Simon___> :/
[00:15] <dr_willis> set up byobu to be the default shell... then it wont be an issue again.
[00:15] <qin> *attach
[00:15] <dr_willis> !info retty
[00:15] <Simon___> i'm ~70% through a process
[00:15] <reisio> you'd use um... dupx or reptyr
[00:15] <dr_willis> !info dupx
[00:15] <reisio> or retty apparently, seem to be so many these days
[00:15] <dr_willis> L()
[00:16] <dr_willis> I alwyas have weechat running in a screen session. :) so im always using screen
[00:16] <jellow> Simon___: Can't you use fg bg look at man pages ?
[00:16] <reisio> doesn't work that way
[00:16] <dr_willis> I think oncve you logout fg/bg would be killed..
[00:16] <Simon___> jellow: i think bg will still hangup the process
[00:17] <reisio> you want to bring it back in a screen
[00:17] <Simon___> no it can go to the background until it's finished
[00:18] <Simon___> would fg, bg, diswon work? i've never used disown..
[00:18] <Stereocaulon> qin, I already tried pasuspender, to disable pulse for that session. It did not work, still no audio.
[00:18] <oldschool> hi does anyone know how to install crashplan on ubuntu i just download it the CrashPlan_3.0.3_Linux.tgzand i dont know how to install new to ubuntu
[00:19] <jxshxx> kamiccolo, I must be trying to do the wrong thing because I have nothing to write.  I just need to connect to the net.  It says the wireless is there, but Chrome and FF disagree ...
[00:19] <reisio> you'd lose the output, though
[00:19] <reisio> oldschool: there're probably instructions inside the tarball
[00:20] <kamiccolo> jxshxx, does it ping 173.194.32.16 ?
[00:20] <qin> Stereocaulon: I do not know, onestly, my adice isto run wine in plain x (with or withuot pulseaudio running), form time to time to can spot sinks blocking each other, but again, i do not cope with pulseaudio, it is magic to me.
[00:21] <reisio> fade_: why do you ask
[00:21] <Stereocaulon> qin, black magic that does not work properly in wine...
[00:21] <jxshxx> kamiccolo, 5 packets transmitted and received
[00:21] <fade_> trying to get advice from someone with a cs degree
[00:22] <vadi2> Are there any workarounds to the software centre taking 2mins to start and eating all CPU resources while doing so?
[00:22] <pnorman> So, I've confirmed it - the partitioner on the ubuntu 11.10 server installer is hanging at 70%
[00:22] <kamiccolo> jxshxx, so i think, that there are no DNS servers set.
[00:24] <jxshxx> kamiccolo, I've put Lucid on several computers and never had to do anything manually.  Where to start?
[00:25] <oldschool> would crashplan run with wine?
[00:25] <reisio> oldschool: if there's a win32 version, maybe, yeah
[00:26] <reisio> oldschool: but if you have a .tgz, that'd probably be better
[00:26] <ghostnik11> hi i am trying to tell k3b a path where to look for  burning info in its gui in setting up permission options, but everytime i tell it to do it, it forgets the path
[00:26] <reisio> oldschool: this is a backup system?
[00:26] <sickfreeman> hi!
[00:26] <reisio> oldschool: honestly... just use something in the repos
[00:27] <oldschool> yes for backup
[00:27] <reisio> sickfreeman: hiyo
[00:27] <ghostnik11> i also get this error since i tried to run it with root privileges: k3b(8859)/kdeui (kdelibs): Attempt to use QAction "location_bar" with KXMLGUIFactory!
[00:27] <sickfreeman> hi
[00:28] <kamiccolo> jxshxx, try these google public dns servers: 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[00:28] <pnorman> Does anyone know where the hashes for the ubuntu server download .isos are? I want to verify that this has correctly downloaded
[00:28] <Guest11554> Question - I have two admin users on my Ubuntu box. User, and HTPC. When I'm in User and I try to unlock a system setting that requires root, "HTPC" shows up in the override box, NOT User. Why?
[00:28] <sickfreeman> hi reisio
[00:28] <dsnyders> !visor
[00:28] <dr_willis> !hash
[00:29] <dr_willis> !md5
[00:29] <scribus12>  whooa. just learned that ACER removes windows and gives you 60-65$ refund for IT if you use Linux. IMHo- more people should know about tis.
[00:29] <reisio> pnorman: http://mirror.yellowfiber.net/ubuntu/oneiric/SHA1SUMS
[00:29] <pnorman> reisio: Thanks.
[00:29] <pnorman> dr_willis: The page linked doesn't have 11.10 hashes
[00:30] <dr_willis> the md5 files are also at the ftp/download server i recall
[00:30] <dsnyders> !palm
[00:30] <jxshxx> kamiccolo, So I haven't done ANYTHING as far as I know, but suddenly it's working ....
[00:30] <reisio> pnorman: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors FFR
[00:30] <reisio> the checksum files are kept in the same dirs as the ISO images
[00:32] <kamiccolo> jxshxx, he he :) maybe Your default DNS servers there just down...
[00:32] <roasted> Question - I have two admin users on my system. Let's say it's Bob, and Fred. I'm logged in as Bob, but when I need to run as sudo, the dialog box that comes up has Fred's name in it. Why is it not Bob, who's currently logged in?
[00:32] <kamiccolo> jxshxx, or some kind of magic button... :)
[00:32] <reisio> roasted: what's the actual command you run?
[00:32] <gskellig> 64bit 11.10, flash player is not working on any browser, using the install file from http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/completion/?installer=Flash_Player_11_for_Ubuntu_(apt)
[00:33] <roasted> reisio, I'm not running a command. I'm trying the "unlock" setting in system settings.
[00:33] <reisio> gskellig: if you're getting it from adobe.com you're already doing it wrong
[00:33] <roasted> reisio, in particular I was in to add a new user, so I hit unlock to override and I noticed the wrong name.
[00:33] <gskellig> where should i be getting it from
[00:33] <reisio> roasted: it's probably whatever one you used during instlal
[00:33] <reisio> install*
[00:34] <dr_willis> !flash
[00:34] <dr_willis> Flash installer in the repos. i belive.
[00:34] <Tech-1> Haing a hard time w/flash...it plays but wont fast forward or reverse the video portion....what exactly has to be installed and uninstalled for this to work properly ?  ubuntu 10.10
[00:34] <dr_willis> I alwyas check enable 3rd party/restricted/updates  during install. :)
[00:34] <roasted> reisio, negative. However, the 2nd user I think claimed the 1st user spot, because I have deleted the user that once resided in spot 1.
[00:34] <roasted> reisio, if tha tmakes sense?
[00:34] <Stereocaulon> qin, thank you for putting me on the right track. It seems that in my current config, pulseaudio won't make a pulseaudio sink.
[00:34] <reisio> roasted: seems likely enough
[00:35] <roasted> reisio, User1 was created during install. User2 created after. I deleted User1 while logged in as User 2. Then, I created User3. When I'm in as User3, it doesn't come up as User3 to override - it comes up as User2.
[00:35] <reisio> I suppose this is what happens when you destroy the root paradigm
[00:35]  * Tech-1 looks
[00:35] <jdread> people living off free software only get to outspace by abusing dust in the GPU (LTS) :
[00:35] <reisio> normally you don't have an admin, you have root
[00:35] <jdread> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F0BvHuzIaU
[00:36] <Ibis> reisio: I've already used debootstrap command to set up a 64bit ubuntu into a MOUNTED directory (Specifically: /ubuntu),      but I do not know what to do about installing packages for: /ubuntu
[00:36] <dr_willis> I dont see what you gain by removing the first user really. :)
[00:36] <roasted> reisio, how did I destroy the "root paradigm"??
[00:36] <djjonex_> how i can change my external ip
[00:36] <reisio> roasted: you didn't, Ubuntu did :p
[00:37] <roasted> reisio, oh??
[00:37] <dr_willis> djjonex_:  depends on how you are connecting i imagine. the networkmnager has static ip settings
[00:37] <jobalcaen2> can anyone help me setup a fixed ip on a wireless interface?
[00:37] <reisio> normally there are normal users and root, and if you want to to admin-y things you become root
[00:37] <ghostnik11> how can you give a file permission like: 0755 root.root
[00:37] <reisio> ghostnik11: chmod, chown
[00:37] <jrib> reisio: this is not the ubuntu way
[00:37] <dr_willis> !permissions | ghostnik11
[00:37] <jxshxx> kamiccolo, Let's just say it was all you!  Thanks for your input :)
[00:37] <reisio> jrib: I just got done saying that
[00:38] <jrib> reisio: if you address your statements, it will be less confusing
[00:38] <ghostnik11> thanks
[00:38] <reisio> jrib: but I do
[00:38] <kraken> how can i work with wine -prefix [ looking for a wiki maybe ]
[00:38] <Tech-1> Flash IS installed...it still will NOT allow forwarding or reversing of video portion of video...whats wrong ??
[00:39] <reisio> kraken: what is it you want to accomplish?
[00:39] <jrib> roasted: how did you create and destroy users?
[00:39] <reisio> Tech-1: not all SWF players do that
[00:39] <Tech-1> its youtube
[00:39] <Tech-1> normal flash file
[00:39] <Tech-1> so, back to my question
[00:39] <dr_willis> youtube does support HTML5 for a lot of its videos now...
[00:39] <roasted> jrib, through the user accounts system setting
[00:39] <Ibis> djjonex_: Reset your router so it can then be assigned a new IP perhaps? (Are you running a remote server, or is this a desktop computer in your home?)
[00:40] <reisio> and by HTML5 he means WebM
[00:40] <jrib> roasted: does sudo work in a terminal
[00:40] <jobalcaen2> is anyone here using a fixed ip on a wireless interface, on ubuntu server?
[00:40] <roasted> jrib, et me check...
[00:41] <Tech-1> Does ubuntu use beta adobe ?, or is it the stable version
[00:41] <Ibis> !ask | jobalcaen2
[00:41] <kraken> reisio: i want to use wine with -prefix and i dont know how nothingelse dudue
[00:41] <Despair> So my Ubuntu 10.10 system all of the sudden stopped booting, throwing up a lot of numbers and ending with "plymouth splash terminating main process with status 1"
[00:41] <reisio> kraken: why do you want to use wine with "-prefix"
[00:42] <Despair> I tried here once before and a fellow gave me a tip that didnt work
[00:42] <jobalcaen2> Can someone look at my interfaces configuration? Its quite big and I dont want to spam the room
[00:42] <kraken> reisio: just to use different wine nothingelse
[00:42] <Ibis> jobalcaen2: Pastebin.com it
[00:42] <_r00t_> jobalcaen2: sure pastbin it
[00:42] <_r00t_> you could futurebin it too
[00:42] <AleXstX> #backtrack-linux irc room down?
[00:42] <AleXstX> #backtrack-linux irc room down?
[00:43] <reisio> kraken: WINEPREFIX=path/to/wherever wine foo
[00:43] <dsnyders> Hi all.  I fixed my visor problem.  Turns out the cradle was connected to a USB hub, but the hub wasn't plugged into the PC.
[00:43] <_r00t_> AleXstX: yep them could script kiddie hacked :)
[00:43] <qin> AleXstX: No.
[00:43] <AleXstX> lol really?
[00:43] <kraken> reisio: tnx
[00:43] <_r00t_> AleXstX: LOLsz
[00:43] <AleXstX> xD
[00:44] <AleXstX> actually im not able to join it...
[00:44] <Ibis> AleXstX: You might be banned from the room then.
[00:44] <qin> !ircroot | AleXstX
[00:44] <qin> !register | AleXstX
[00:45] <roasted> jrib, yes, it does.
[00:45] <roasted> jrib, its just the GUI brings up the wrong username
[00:45] <AleXstX> no way i naver even joined it from this netbook
[00:45] <jrib> roasted: what does /etc/passwd look like?  Has this persisted after reboot?
[00:45]  * _r00t_ used to have a nick on undernet ... Does that even still exist ? :)
[00:45] <jrib> roasted: and does the gui accept a password (which one?) and let you still unlock the settings?
[00:46] <roasted> jrib, it only lets me unlock via GUI if I use the other users password.
[00:46] <jrib> roasted: interesting
[00:46] <roasted> jrib, this must be a gnome shell thing
[00:46] <jrib> roasted: pastebin /etc/group too
[00:46] <roasted> jrib, in unity, I have a drop down box of available users
[00:46] <roasted> jrib, but in gnome shell, it has the user populated and I cannot change it
[00:47] <Tech-1> Despair-  from looking around 'Cntrl-Alt-F5 and logged in and "startx"
[00:47] <jrib> roasted: how does running « gksu gedit » and « gksudo gedit » compare?
[00:47] <AleXstX> wait a sec, on bt wiki is stated that @root is banned from channel immidiately, im root now...lol
[00:48] <Despair> Tech-1:  from looking around?
[00:48] <dr_willis> AleXstX:  one of the many reasons we dont really reccomend  Backtrack i think.,..
[00:48] <roasted> jrib, looks the same
[00:48] <Tech-1> ya:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1416872-p-3.html
[00:48] <jrib> roasted: in both cases?
[00:48] <roasted>  jrib gedit opens in both cases. *shrug*
[00:48] <jobalcaen2> how do I copy text that spans more than one page? I'm ssh'd into my ubuntu server
[00:49] <jrib> roasted: and both show username incorrectly?
[00:49] <jobalcaen2> I want to copy and pastebin it
[00:49] <dr_willis> jobalcaen2:  theres the pastebinit command you could try to use.. somehow
[00:49] <dr_willis> command | pastebinit
[00:49] <qin> jobalcaen2: file or command | pastebinit (have to be installed)
[00:49] <AleXstX> great pentesting capabillities..
[00:50] <jdread> my pentesting involves a fork in a socket
[00:50] <reisio> jobalcaen2: text from what?
[00:50] <AleXstX> ...
[00:50] <jdread> ...
[00:50] <AleXstX> lol
[00:50] <dr_willis> my Pens normally work fine.. or i get a new  one. :)
[00:50] <jdread> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F0BvHuzIaU
[00:50] <dr_willis> jdread:  and thats related to ubuntu support how exactly?
[00:51] <dr_willis> :)
[00:51] <jobalcaen2> jo@ubuntuserver:/etc/network$ interfaces | pastebinit
[00:51] <jobalcaen2> interfaces: command not found
[00:51] <jobalcaen2> You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[00:51] <qin> jobalcaen2: cat ...
[00:51] <Despair> Tech-1:  I'm trying to wade through this...I really have absolutely no idea what Im doing
[00:51] <AleXstX> ok, im sorry for off...
[00:52] <dr_willis> command thatmakesoutput | pastebinit :)
[00:52] <jdread> did u know that the gnu "dir" command on ubuntu doesn't show u file sizes? NOW thats crazy
[00:52] <Tech-1> trust me, i'm no expert either.
[00:52] <_r00t_> jobalcaen2: cat interfaces |  pastebinit
[00:52] <dr_willis> jdread:  the dir command as far as i know was an alias to ls.
[00:52] <jdread> try it urself ... open a terminal and typ dir
[00:52] <dr_willis> but i guess thats changeable..
[00:52] <jdread> ubuntu doesnt want you to see file sizes
[00:52] <dr_willis> $ alias dir
[00:52] <dr_willis> alias dir='dir --color=auto'
[00:52] <_r00t_> ps thanks for the  pastebinit heads up .... very neat
[00:52] <dr_willis> jdread:  most people should be using ls.. not dir
[00:53] <jrib> jdread: do you have a support question related to ubuntu?
[00:53] <kraken> reisio: can u suggest me something written for wineprifx ?
[00:53] <jdread> go to hell
[00:53] <_r00t_> alias tailall
[00:53] <_r00t_> alias tailall='find /var/log/ -type f | egrep -v "gz|kernel" | xargs tail -f'
[00:53] <jrib> ok...
[00:53] <AleXstX> ~banned
[00:53] <dr_willis> theres 'vdir' also.. if you really want dir..
[00:53] <jobalcaen2> does this configuration for a static ip on wireless interface look correct? http://paste.ubuntu.com/724827/
[00:53] <reisio> kraken: what?
[00:54] <zykotick9> jdretry "dir -lh"
[00:54] <qin> AleXstX: For love sake! adduser ircuser; su ircuser; irssi;
[00:54] <jobalcaen2> I'm using ubuntu server...I can connect to the network perfectly fine if I use dhcp...but with static I lose ssh and and cant ping any sites
[00:55] <dr_willis> jobalcaen2:  sounds like the default gateway, or dns server settings are incorrect
[00:55] <qin> !rootirc | AleXstX
[00:55] <zykotick9> jobalcaen2, check /etc/resolv.conf (both while using DHCP an not)
[00:55] <_r00t_> jobalcaen2: ifconfig -a | pastebinit
[00:57] <bekks> hi
[00:58] <bekks> What can I do about this error on 11.04?: http://nopaste.info/49305e269e.html
[00:58] <zykotick9> jobalcaen2, it wasn't an invite to PM, keep your issue here please
[00:58] <jobalcaen2> how do I chat at someone, without pming?
[00:58] <dr_willis> bekks:  at least give a little summary of the core of the problem.
[00:59] <qin> jobalcaen2: likewise
[00:59] <dr_willis> !tab | jobalcaen2
[00:59] <syoma> hello, I've problem with vino and ati driver in dual head mode ...
[01:00] <bekks> I'm having issues running aptitude upgrade, which errors out about /usr/lib/xorg/extra-modules is already managed by x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf.
[01:00] <syoma> I can not conenct to "remote dekstop" (vino) of another display
[01:00] <syoma> in ubuntu 10.04
[01:01] <reisio> syoma: how are you trying
[01:01] <Klojum> Any error messages, syoma ?
[01:05] <Pilif12p> i found a typo in GNOME/Ubuntu
[01:05] <Pilif12p> "114,026 items, totalling 13.2 GB"
[01:06] <mikodo> Hi, is this correct for /home  (755 root:root):  http://paste.ubuntu.com/724837/
[01:06] <SupaYoshi> Hi, I made my startup delay 0 seconds, at grub menu tried some guides on the internet using the live cd
[01:06] <bekks> mikodo: Yes.
[01:06] <SupaYoshi> how to get it back without reinstalling?
[01:06] <mikodo> bekks, Thank you :)
[01:07] <bekks> mikodo: /home should be owned by root, while /home/user should be owned by user.
[01:07] <mikodo> bekks, I check my /home/user too
[01:08] <_r00t_> SupaYoshi: keep hitting tab or esc whilst you're booting up ... you'll get into the menu
[01:09] <SupaYoshi> really? Oh ok
[01:09] <mikodo> bekks, should /home/user be 777
[01:09] <SupaYoshi> :D lemme try
[01:09] <bekks> mikodo: In ubuntu, thats default. Personally, disregarding the ubuntu way of life, I am setting /home/user to 0750.
[01:09] <sasori> is it possible to triple boot a machine? ..like e.g win7,ubuntu 11.10, ubuntu 11.04 ?
[01:09] <bekks> sasori: Sure.
[01:10] <mikodo> bekks, thanks
[01:10] <fictive> can anyone help me determine which gpu is actually running under ubuntu on my laptop? I'm having problems with battery consumption in ubuntu vs windows
[01:10] <bekks> mikodo: Caution: DONT set it like that if you dont now what you are doing there and what it implies _exactly_.
[01:10] <SupaYoshi> r00t: not working
[01:11] <dsnyders> sasori, absolutely.  You just add another entry in grub.
[01:11] <sasori> hmmn ok thanks
[01:11] <Ibis> Is there a way to apt-get install packages for ANOTHER filesystem?         You would have a system normally installed in: /,       But to install FOR /anothersystemDirectory      <--- Where that is actually a mounted harddrive.
[01:11] <SupaYoshi> i made it 0 with startupmanager...
[01:11] <qin> bekks: Default is 755 for /home/user
[01:11] <FrankJameso> is there anyone here that has experience doing a raid setup with ubuntu/
[01:11] <bekks> qin: ack.
[01:11] <mikodo> bekks, Then being a noob, maybe best to stay with the Ubuntu default for /home/user, yes?
[01:11] <FrankJameso> and is it possible to use hardware controllers for it with linux, or only software?
[01:11] <xangua> !anyone | FrankJameso
[01:11] <bekks> mikodo: Yes.
[01:12] <TheHackOps> Hey guys if anyone is on from last night i fixed my sound problem when i updated to 10.10 im happy larry now
[01:12] <mikodo> bekks, :)
[01:14] <dsnyders> FrankJameso, I think you're going to get more info from Google than you will here, unless you have specific issues.  But as a quick answer, yes, ubuntu can run both hardware and software RAID
[01:14] <syoma> reisio, Klojum , vino service only listed on localhost..
[01:14] <FrankJameso> thanks d
[01:14] <theborger> hey guys question. just installed 10.04 on a dual Opteron. and cpu usage is high on one. low on other, and they keep switching.
[01:14] <Ibis> TheHackOps: Can you post exactly how you did that?
[01:14] <Ibis> IT may help someone with your problem.
[01:14] <TheHackOps> Ibis, Fixed my sound?
[01:15] <Ibis> Yea that problem.
[01:15] <TheHackOps> Ibis, Sure
[01:15] <Ibis> And it wasn't me who assisted you. xD
[01:15] <theborger> xorg is using a crap load of cpu
[01:15] <TheHackOps> No BluesKaj helped me
[01:15] <syoma> Klojum and x11vnc when I connect on display 1, x11vnc only show me an dekstop of display 1 but the remote display is display 0
[01:15] <yigal> is there an error here or am I color blind http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_at_2011-10-31_20_10_19-uVHM7j3S.png
[01:16] <yigal> I chose pink
[01:16] <rumpe1> yigal, looks green to me
[01:16] <yigal> darn I'm color blind
[01:17] <TheHackOps> Ibis, Basicly i reinstalled alsa-base and pulseaudio and the indicator applet  i forget the package then i upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 and then i had sound
[01:17] <Ibis> Lol @ lapdance.
[01:17] <yigal> rumpe1: I like this application I don't know why it randomly fails
[01:17] <theborger> anyone? 32percent cpu usage for Xorg?
[01:18] <yigal> theborger: are you playing games, what is your graphics card?
[01:18] <TheHackOps> No your not color blind i would have said red
[01:18] <theborger> yigal fresh install. noting running but gnome
[01:18] <yigal> TheHackOps: red is a real dark red
[01:19] <yigal> theborger: which games?
[01:19] <TheHackOps> theborger, I would have said red also i had AC II running fine on my old install
[01:19] <rumpe1> yigal, maybe check the RGB-Values with gimp?
[01:19] <yigal> rumpe1: I dig that
[01:19] <TheHackOps> yigal, No its not the word "red" is yellow
[01:19] <theborger> yigal: ati rageXL
[01:19] <theborger> yigal, i am not playing games
[01:19] <theborger> onced again, fresh install, as i just installed it now
[01:20] <yigal> theborger: ah, no it sounds then that you aren't using the right driver
[01:20] <yigal> theborger: probably vesa
[01:20] <delac> it seems "Ubuntu One -> Hide Ribbon" doesn't have any effect. Is there a workaround?
[01:21] <tgelter_laptop> hello: according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro6-2/Oneiric there is a separate install CD for mactel computers, can anyone point me to the download? I can't find it.
[01:21] <Gopher``> okay, so installing 11 on a netbook, over external dvd drive connection(USB), and my netbook doesn't have a startup session where i can choose to boot from CD..rebooting with cd in drive doesn't show ubuntu on startup..
[01:21] <theborger> how do i get to run level 3?
[01:22] <theborger> does init 3 work in term?
[01:23] <yigal> theborger: sounds like safety mode safe mode, eg the second boot option
[01:23] <theborger> yigal: how do you get out of x?
[01:24] <theborger> just to a terminal window?
[01:24] <AleXstX> ok i cant join backtrack-linux room, can someone help me, i installed bt 5r1 x86 a few minutes ago so i want to install ati drivers(btw my card is hd5870), the problem is, last time i tried to install them, system was so slow after installation so i needed to reinstall...what should i do now...sory for offtopic...:)
[01:24] <theborger> no xorg runnig
[01:24] <mikodo> bekks, Might, this still be OK for /home/user:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/724848/
[01:24] <yigal> theborger: alt+ctrl + F1
[01:24] <yigal> theborger: in X that is
[01:24] <tgelter_laptop> nevermind, found it http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/11.10/release/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[01:24] <zykotick9> !runlevels | theborger
[01:24] <TheHackOps> I wish skype would push an update for linux like maybe up to 5.0 at least
[01:24] <bekks> mikodo: Yes - but I still do not advise to change the default.
[01:25] <zykotick9> theborger, stop your DM of choice - "sudo service lightdm stop" for new ubuntu
[01:25] <yigal> zykotick9: yes but in general init 3 is console mode only
[01:25] <yigal> right
[01:25] <zykotick9> yigal, not in ubuntu / debian
[01:25] <pnorman> Partial success - I'm into the partitioner now, I had to make another USB flash with partition magic and wipe the partitions on one of the drives
[01:25] <mikodo> bekks, I will try to set to default of 777 for home/user
[01:25] <yigal> zykotick9: they still emulate these levels
[01:25] <AleXstX> someone?
[01:25] <yigal> zykotick9: and they still have some baring on actual usage
[01:26] <bekks> mikodo: 777 is NOT the default - the default is 755.
[01:26] <zykotick9> !runlevels > yigal
[01:26] <bekks> mikodo: And dont change it unless you know what you are doing.
[01:26] <yigal> zykotick9: oh stop that
[01:26] <yigal> zykotick9: of course upstart is used
[01:26] <mikodo> bekks, 755 OK. Thanks!
[01:27] <yigal> zykotick9: it has to do with the init scripts used
[01:27] <yigal> zykotick9: they still are
[01:27] <bekks> mikodo: Again: dont touch it at all unless you know what you are doing.
[01:27] <qin> AleXstX: Once more time, for love sake! adduser ircuser; su ircuser; irssi; You using unsupported here distro, discusing *automatic* ban on channel which have nothing to do with ubuntu!
[01:28] <mikodo> bekks, Well before coming here, I messed it up; So, with you, I am trying to set it straight
[01:28] <yigal> qin: lol
[01:29] <qin> yigal: Backtrack installer should have obligaroty IQ and personality tests
[01:31] <Daskreech> Hello
[01:31] <Gopher``> my netbook won't even give me the option for ubuntu/windows at boot, it automatically loads windows every time
[01:31] <Daskreech> where is the notification area in Unity?
[01:31] <yigal> qin: :)
[01:31] <ar1and3r> are there any operators in this channel?
[01:32] <jrib> ar1and3r: why?
[01:32] <ar1and3r> @jrib: need help for password reset
[01:32] <jrib> ar1and3r: #freenode for that
[01:32] <ar1and3r> thanks
[01:33] <yigal> TheHackOps: yep it's pink
[01:34] <yigal> TheHackOps: it appears that my monitor isn't showing colors properly
[01:35] <jeeves_moss> how can I get my bluetooth headset to stop only accepting mono sound and use the A2DP protocol?
[01:35] <yigal> jeeves_moss: go to sound preferences
[01:35] <yigal> jeeves_moss: are you using 11.10?
[01:35] <jeeves_moss> yigal, I can see the option to select it, but when I do, nothing happens.
[01:35] <jeeves_moss> yigal, yes, I'm using 10.10
[01:36] <yigal> jeeves_moss: so no you're not :)
[01:36] <jeeves_moss> yigal, ??
[01:36] <yigal> jeeves_moss: interesting, what headset are you using?
[01:36] <jeeves_moss> Moto A805
[01:37] <sasori> help..i installed ubuntu 10.10 on a virtual machine...after installation/reboot all i can see is a pure terminal..how to view the gnome ? T_T
[01:37] <jeeves_moss> yigal, Make that a Moto S805
[01:37] <Guest74561> does anybody knows why I can't able visual effects?
[01:37] <twirm> sasori, try running "startx"
[01:38] <yigal> jeeves_moss: I'm sorry I'm not sure
[01:38] <yigal> jeeves_moss: usually it takes some tinkering :(
[01:38] <jeeves_moss> yigal, ok, thanks.  I have sound, but it sounds like crap.  LOL
[01:38] <sasori> twirm: now that works, thanks man :D
[01:38] <yigal> jeeves_moss: I know, this has happened to quite a lot
[01:39] <jeeves_moss> yigal, yea.  don't even get me started on Windows 7!
[01:39] <TheHackOps> yigal, Sucks mna
[01:39] <TheHackOps> yigal, Sucks man
[01:39] <yigal> TheHackOps: no worries, it's a bit odd
[01:40] <yigal> TheHackOps: I should watch a movie and see what's like to see green men :)
[01:40] <TheHackOps> yigal, Yeh go for it
[01:40] <yigal> :D
[01:40] <dr_willis> what if its a show about green men from mars....
[01:41] <yigal> dr_willis: then they'll prob. look red
[01:41] <dr_willis> Pink.
[01:41] <TheHackOps> Speaking of which does anyone know any codec packs that can playback 1080p lag free
[01:41] <yigal> dr_willis: right :
[01:41] <dr_willis> TheHackOps:  it would depend on the codec the video is encoded in. and your system specs..
[01:42] <yigal> TheHackOps: not sure, I'm playing with an i5 and with a bug in the current kernal it handles flash as well as my atom notebook
[01:42] <dr_willis> TheHackOps:  in general.. the bigger thefile is due to the codec.. the less compresison.. thus less cpu needed to play it back
[01:42] <sasori> hi, i went to system->administration-> and i found no "software sources" under ubuntu 10.10 , what's the alternative or where can i find that place ?
[01:42] <dr_willis> for my netbook - i always reencoded stuff to be xvid, and reduced the res tobe what the netbook could do natively.
[01:42] <TheHackOps> dr_willis, i know i should never make comparison but im talking about something like k-lite codec pack plays 1080p fine on my laptop on windows
[01:43] <xangua> sasori: software centre-edit-sources
[01:43] <dr_willis> a codec pac is just a collection of codecs.. it depends on the actual codec being used by the video
[01:43] <yigal> dr_willis: sounds reasonable I usually would just crank up the CPU and throw in all the mplayer switches I could
[01:43] <yigal> dr_willis: usually worked
[01:43] <TheHackOps> dr_willis, I now use ubuntu as my main os (windows was just on here when i got it)
[01:43] <cobalt237> Has anyone had issues with the Unity panel not accepting mouse clicks?
[01:43] <bsmith093> possible noob question but, does everything always accept wildcards or can that cause wierd behavior? ( specifically ebook-convert from calibre)
[01:43] <sasori> xangua: is that a command on the terminal ?
[01:43] <sasori> i tried , it says command not found
[01:43] <dr_willis> that  h.686 or whatver its called.. is more cpu intensive.. but makes smaller files. :)
[01:44] <yigal> bsmith093: everything?
[01:44] <xangua> sasori: go to software centre and clic on the edit menu
[01:44] <yigal> bsmith093: could you be more specific?
[01:44] <TheHackOps> dr_willis, I find it a bit odd that its so much harder to playback media on linux distros
[01:44] <bsmith093> the ubuntu cli stuff?
[01:44] <dr_willis> bsmith093:  the 'wildcards' on the command line are normally parsed by the shell. not the app. try 'echo *' for example
[01:44] <dr_willis> TheHackOps:  i find it easier to play stuff on linux.. :)
[01:44] <cobalt237> on open applications, I can click on an icon and it will go to it
[01:44] <sasori> xangua: there's no software centre option under the system->administration menu
[01:44] <TheHackOps> dr_willis, Yes and no, getting stuff not to lag is hard
[01:44] <cobalt237> However, for other icons like "Lock Screen" it does nothing
[01:45] <xangua> sasori: there is on the app menu
[01:45] <xangua> ......
[01:45] <dr_willis> TheHackOps:  cant say i really notice any lag.
[01:45] <dr_willis> vlc + that vpadu stuff for the nvidia systems i guess.. :)
[01:45] <TheHackOps> dr_willis, sounds like your setup is ace maybe i should copy it
[01:45] <yigal> I still like the mplayer and it's keyboard use
[01:45] <yigal> its
[01:45] <Pilif12p> stupid question - When I cp -R /home/tanner/ /media/ehdd, it'll copy the dotfiles too right?
[01:46] <bsmith093> so wildcards for input all these files would'nt necessarily always return those files as input ( ex. ebook-convert *.cbz .pdf)
[01:46] <dr_willis> only pc i got with any real tweaking needed to play things - is my netbook.
[01:46] <reisio> Gopher``: you need to install GRUB to sda, or from inside Windows use EasyBCD to setup Windows' loader to know where GRUB is on sdb
[01:46] <yigal> Pilif12p: yes in /home/tanner
[01:46] <sasori> xangua: are you referring to the ubuntu one?
[01:46] <Pilif12p> that's what I thought
[01:46] <dr_willis> bsmith093:  test with echo. see exactly what the * gets expanded to.
[01:46] <reisio> Pilif12p: but /home/tanner/* would not
[01:46] <yigal> Pilif12p: you are Correct!
[01:46] <reisio> Pilif12p: not from the top directory /tanner/ anyways
[01:47] <dr_willis> bsmith093:  the shell expands the * and sends the expanded list to the app.
[01:47] <Pilif12p> reisio: well, i actually did ~, not /home/tanner
[01:47] <TheHackOps> dr_willis, Thats what im talking about on my desktop with a good graphics card i cant make it lag if i try
[01:47] <reisio> Pilif12p: the difference being ~/ and ~/*
[01:47] <TheHackOps> except flash
[01:47] <reisio> Pilif12p: if you copy the directory, the . files are in it, and copied
[01:47] <reisio> Pilif12p: if you copy * that doesn't match . files
[01:47] <Pilif12p> reisio: So doing it without the *, it will copy dotfiles
[01:47] <Pilif12p> ah
[01:47] <reisio> will not, for the first directory
[01:47] <dr_willis> bbl
[01:48] <Pilif12p> but *.* will do that
[01:48] <pnorman> With the ubuntu server partitioner, is it possible to select *which* disk are mirrors for each other for RAID10?
[01:48] <reisio> Pilif12p: no
[01:49] <yigal> Pilif12p: yes, although it's kind wrong as you really don't want to copy ..
[01:49] <Benzooo> hai
[01:49] <yigal> Pilif12p: that will only copy dot files
[01:49] <yigal> excuse me no
[01:49] <Pilif12p> yigal: i see.
[01:49] <yigal> NO
[01:49] <reisio> :p
[01:49] <yigal> Pilif12p: .*
[01:49] <Pilif12p> that's what i meant
[01:49] <yigal> Pilif12p: not *.*
[01:49] <TheHackOps> to get flash not to lag i have to turn my screen res down
[01:49] <yigal> Pilif12p: ok, I missed that
[01:49] <reisio> but I'm only saying this fyi
[01:49] <reisio> you're fine if you end with a dir name or a dir name and a /
[01:49] <reisio> also if you tar
[01:49] <Benzooo> what a kiwinkidink that xchat automagically connected to a server i already had registered on
[01:49] <reisio> (a dir)
[01:50] <reisio> Benzooo: almost as if you've preconfigured it to do so!
[01:50] <Benzooo> almost
[01:50] <roasted> I just fired up Google Earth in 11.10 and WOW the font size is SUPER tiny. How can I adjust it?
[01:50] <sasori> i see, so the software sources is disabled by default in 10.10 ubuntu ..arghh :S
[01:50] <Benzooo> no, actually just installed ubuntu 10.11
[01:50] <karaguellek> hi guys can anyone help me?
[01:50] <yigal> Benzooo: never knew that one existed, sounds cool
[01:50] <yigal> Benzooo: jk
[01:50] <Benzooo> its my first install, ive used live disks before
[01:51] <karaguellek> yigal: could you maybe help me?
[01:51] <yigal> karaguellek: maybe, I hope I can
[01:51] <Benzooo> yeah its 11.10 ive got sexlexia
[01:51] <yigal> Benzooo: lol
[01:51] <yigal> Benzooo: you call your mom, pop?
[01:52] <Benzooo> is there like a sysinfo built into xchat?
[01:52]  * Pilif12p goes off to try to install Mint
[01:52] <Pilif12p> unless I can figure out how to fix the incredibly annoying issues I have run into the past week
[01:52] <yigal> Pilif12p: like what?
[01:53] <karaguellek> yigal: Well i want to install my graphic card from ati i read the whole wiki but i cant find the xorg.conf i looked in /etc/X11 but its not there .. i have to add the driver
[01:53] <yigal> karaguellek: cool, ya by default an xorg.conf won't exist
[01:54] <Pilif12p> yigal: When I unplug my laptop it thinks that the battery is critically low and shuts down, touchpad doesn't work when mousing over a link and typing when moused over link, very short (10 seconds or less) before it shuts down with a critically low battery...
[01:54] <Pilif12p> those are the 3 most annoying issues, there are more though
[01:54] <Pilif12p> 11.10 was not ready to be released imo
[01:54] <yigal> Pilif12p: sounds rough
[01:54] <karaguellek> yigal: i am on ubuntu 11.10 when i make one on my desktop and put the lines in i had to and when i drag it to X11 and restart it won't boot
[01:54] <Pilif12p> None of this happened on earlier versions of Ubuntu
[01:54] <yigal> Pilif12p: ya I'm primarily an Arch user but I enjoy playing 11.10 every once in a while
[01:55] <yigal> Pilif12p: see how the latest version is like
[01:55] <karaguellek> yigal: any ida?
[01:55] <roasted> I just fired up Google Earth in 11.10 and WOW the font size is SUPER tiny. How can I adjust it?
[01:55] <Pilif12p> yigal: and not supporting GNOME2 pissed me off a bit. Gnome-panel on 3 is pretty horrible
[01:55] <yigal> karaguellek: don't reboot
[01:55] <yigal> karaguellek: just restart X right
[01:55] <Pilif12p> (to make the touchpad work again, I have to kill xorg)
[01:55] <oldschool> hi in ubuntu how would i Use the terminal to navigate to folder from the terminal
[01:56] <Despair> Well I am not getting any farther on my plymouth problem.  I am thinkingit may just be a sympton of something larger.  Would anyone care to take a look at a photo of my laptop after attempting to boot?
[01:56] <Despair> where can I paste it?
[01:56] <yigal> oldschool: man cd
[01:56] <Pilif12p> oldschool: from Nautilus to a terminal?
[01:56] <karaguellek> yigal: can you help me via teamviewer i really try thhis a couple of days and found noo hel :/
[01:56] <yigal> oldschool: cd /the/directory/you/want
[01:56] <Pilif12p> or from folder to folder in a terminal
[01:56] <yigal> karaguellek: what driver are you using?
[01:56] <yigal> karaguellek: I'm too lazy for that
[01:56] <yigal> karaguellek: I think
[01:57] <karaguellek> yigal: it would be so nice from you :
[01:57] <karaguellek> yigal <3
[01:58] <yigal> karaguellek: just let me know what driver you have
[01:58] <karaguellek> fglrx
[01:58] <karaguellek> or smthn. like that
[01:58] <oldschool> yigal i trying to do this here but dont know how to use the terminal navigate to folder http://middleoftech.com/?p=215
[01:58] <yigal> karaguellek: sorry the card
[01:58] <karaguellek> ATI Xpress 200m
[01:59] <yigal> oldschool: sound like you will need to use ftp, ssh, or some other deal
[01:59] <qin> oldschool: man cd; man ls; that is good start.
[01:59] <yigal> oldschool: to mount that
[01:59] <yigal> oldschool: it's not really "mount" in a traditional sense
[01:59] <karaguellek> yigal: O.o multitasker :D u help 2 persons at once
[01:59] <vimojnguoi> !h61
[02:00] <yigal> karaguellek: it's my form of entertainment
[02:00] <oldschool> ok
[02:00] <karaguellek> yigal: yeah well i have ati xpress 200m any idea?
[02:01] <karaguellek> ati radeon xpress 200M* :D
[02:01] <yigal> karaguellek: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1748187&page=4 ?
[02:01] <yigal> karaguellek: did you try that one?
[02:02] <karaguellek> yigal: look at the first page thats not the problem i have
[02:02] <sasori> hi, if using command "startx" will show the gnome..how to bring back the environment to full terminal ?
[02:03] <yigal> karaguellek: oops, sorry one sec :)
[02:03] <karaguellek> yigal: :D Teamviewer would bee so nice :D
[02:03] <qin> sasori: Back to tty where you issued startx and Ctrl-c
[02:04] <joljam> I installed ubuntu 11.10. but my computer did not boot. I pressed shift until it booted finally. Think my GRUB has some issues. How can I repair it?
[02:04] <zykotick9> sasori, alt+sysrq+k would also work from inside Xorg
[02:06] <roasted> I just fired up Google Earth in 11.10 and WOW the font size is SUPER tiny. How can I adjust it?
[02:06] <Guest74561> How can I activate visual effects if it isn't able to select?
[02:06] <badbandit> how do I change to classic mode in 11.11?
[02:07] <zykotick9> !nounity | badbandit
[02:08] <yigal> karaguellek: please pastebin your xorg.conf
[02:08] <karaguellek> ok
[02:09] <TheHackOps> anyone else have a problem with skypes audio where it makes the correct noises but they are full of white noise
[02:09] <TheHackOps> i dont know how else to explain it
[02:09] <somsip> TheHackOps: do you sound like a chipmunk when you make a test call (seriously)
[02:10] <sasori> need help , when i clicked the "[4:3]" or "[widescreen]" link from this http://www.ubuntusatanic.org/releases.php ..the software center says, not found, is there a way to install this thing manually?
[02:10] <karaguellek> yigal: Section "Device"
[02:10] <karaguellek> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[02:10] <karaguellek> 	Driver		"radeon"
[02:10] <karaguellek> EndSection
[02:10] <yigal> somsip: here comes the chipmunk, jk TheHackOps
[02:10] <yigal> karaguellek: pastebin please
[02:10] <karaguellek> yigal: Section "Device"
[02:10] <karaguellek> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[02:10] <karaguellek> 	Driver		"radeon"
[02:10] <karaguellek> EndSection
[02:10] <yigal> karaguellek: oh man
[02:10] <karaguellek> yigal: wahtsup
[02:10] <TheHackOps> its like if you were to touch the end of a life speaker wire while its on and the speaker was 200% of its capacity
[02:10] <TheHackOps> its a horrible noise
[02:10] <somsip> TheHackOps: Ok - different bug then - nm
[02:11] <yigal> karaguellek: paste.ubuntu.com
[02:11] <TheHackOps> i could record the sound and then upload it
[02:11] <yigal> TheHackOps: reverb?
[02:11] <yigal> TheHackOps: no thanks :)
[02:12] <karaguellek> yigal u want the link?
[02:12] <yigal> karaguellek: cool :)
[02:12] <roasted> I just fired up Google Earth in 11.10 and WOW the font size is SUPER tiny. How can I adjust it?
[02:12] <karaguellek> yigal: sry i am a beginner dun now much about that
[02:12] <karaguellek> yigal: Section "Device"
[02:12] <karaguellek> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[02:12] <karaguellek> 	Driver		"radeon"
[02:12] <karaguellek> EndSection
[02:13] <karaguellek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/724877/
[02:13] <joljam> How do I repair my restore the old grub
[02:13] <yigal> karaguellek: we're all here to learn
[02:13] <yigal> karaguellek: all of it man
[02:13] <yigal> karaguellek: is that it?
[02:13] <karaguellek> yigal: actually i made this xorg.conf myself and just added there lines i have no xorg.conf file
[02:14] <joljam> how do I revert to the old GRUB (1.98) from GRUB 2
[02:14] <urlin2u> joljam, grub legacy or grub 2
[02:14] <karaguellek> yigal: and yes thats all
[02:14] <zykotick9> joljam, grub 1.98 is grub2
[02:14] <joljam> urlin2u I want to restore the legacy grub
[02:14] <joljam> urlin2u is it possible
[02:15] <urlin2u> joljam, I think so although I'm not familiar with grub legacy.
[02:15] <TheHackOps> LOLOL upon trying to record the problem i fixed it
[02:15] <TheHackOps> ahahahaha
[02:15] <TheHackOps> woot
[02:15] <yigal> karaguellek: try http://paste.ubuntu.com/724878/ tell us what happens?
[02:15] <yigal> TheHackOps: what was it
[02:15] <yigal> TheHackOps: ?
[02:16] <TheHackOps> I changeed it to Duplex 1out/1in
[02:16] <yigal> TheHackOps: nice
[02:16] <joljam> urlin2u: seems that my hard disk has some problems with GRUB2.. I have hold down SHIFT key for some time for my ubuntu11.10 to boot
[02:16] <karaguellek> yigaL: what if my laptop won't reboot?
[02:16] <TheHackOps> yigal, i wish skype would update linux users to the latest version
[02:17] <MrPocketz> So, i had this laptop with Ubuntu on it. It was an HP Compaq nx6110 , kinda busted keyboard, and the CPU fan died. I happened to have a nicer Compaw nx6325 without the aforementioned flaws.
[02:18] <TheHackOps> MrPocketz, Ok
[02:18] <MrPocketz> pulled the HDD out of the old one, threw it in the new. Boots, runs better, everythign is great, but the resolution seems worse on this one, and it's as high as i can set it
[02:18] <joljam> urlin2u, seems that my hard disk has some problems with GRUB2.. I have hold down SHIFT key for some time for my ubuntu11.10 to boot
[02:18] <TheHackOps> MrPocketz, Did you install the correct graphics dirvers
[02:18] <zykotick9> MrPocketz, what graphics card?  In terminal "lspci | grep -i vga"
[02:19] <TheHackOps> zykotick9, Reckon skype will ever update again for linux
[02:19] <MrPocketz> TheHackOps, I installed no graphics drivers. I checked the "hardware drivers' in System but it only installed the WiFi drivers
[02:19] <MrPocketz> zykotick9,      01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS482 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
[02:19] <TheHackOps> MrPocketz, same as mine, except i have 400
[02:19] <Ibis> Is there a way to apt-get install packages for ANOTHER filesystem?         You would have a system normally installed in: /,       But to install FOR /anothersystemDirectory      <--- Where that is actually a mounted harddrive.
[02:19] <karaguellek> yigal: I can't make a .conf data
[02:20] <zykotick9> TheHackOps, doubt it, but maybe?  It's proprietary MS garbage now (always was proprietary mind you).
[02:20] <MrPocketz> yeah, i can only set this to 1024x768
[02:20] <TheHackOps> MrPocketz, Go and install flgrx or go to the ati website and download the mobility drivers
[02:20] <MrPocketz> and 1280x1024 would be splendid.
[02:20] <ID414C4558535458> ok
[02:20] <TheHackOps> let  me check mine
[02:20] <MrPocketz> TheHackOps, will do!  Thankyuh
[02:21] <TheHackOps> MrPocketz, My max res is 1366x768
[02:21] <urlin2u> joljam, I doubt changing from grub 2 to grub legacy is the fix both are just a bunch of code. Have you tried just giving a detailed description on the Ubuntu Forums or here?
[02:21] <TheHackOps> MrPocketz, I am on the one you want though because of flash but 1336 looks amazing
[02:22] <MrPocketz> I believe it!
[02:22] <joljam> urlin2u, I think its the problem with the way my 640 GB hard disk is configured.
[02:22] <MrPocketz> i don't really care about graphical quality, i spend most of my time in CLi
[02:22] <MrPocketz> i just want the physical space
[02:23] <TheHackOps> MrPocketz, want a link to your drivers?
[02:23] <MrPocketz> TheHackOps, i can probably track it down, but if you've got it handy It'd be much appreciated.
[02:23] <joljam> urlin2u, how can I figure out the hard disk config from the command line
[02:23] <TheHackOps> MrPocketz, Yeah i have it hold on
[02:23] <brandel> hey there, does anyone happen to know how to rebind the super key in unity2d? All I could find was /com/canonical/unity-2d/super-key-enable
[02:23] <MrPocketz> (and thanks for your help and kindness. Such hospitality is becoming rare on the Internet)
[02:24] <TheHackOps> MrPocketz, 64bit or 32
[02:24] <urlin2u> joljam, a sudo fdisk -l will tell you the partitioning.
[02:24] <MrPocketz> 32
[02:24] <reisio> brandel: rebind to what
[02:24] <TheHackOps> k
[02:25] <brandel> anything other than super - I use that for xmonad
[02:25] <TheHackOps> MrPocketz, http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-11-9-x86.x86_64.run
[02:25] <sasori> hi, i typed "sudo dpkg --configure -a"  and now the terminal is displaying  something like 3500k...........27%  12.7k  14m38s  ..does that mean it is installing whatever software was interrupted before ?
[02:25] <TheHackOps> thats for the mobility radeon 200 which is urs
[02:25] <MrPocketz> Again, greatly appreciated!
[02:25] <joljam> urlin2u, this is what I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/724889/
[02:26] <TheHackOps> No problem
[02:26] <TheHackOps> Is about 79 mb so yeh
[02:26] <brandel> I know you can easily do this using compizsettings with unity3d, unity2d is a bit more mysterious
[02:27] <urlin2u> joljam, show the command run as well try agail the l is a small L
[02:27] <urlin2u> again*
[02:27] <TheHackOps> I feel that amd is setting the mark by allways keeping their drivers up to date for linux and windows
[02:28] <brandel> maybe trying to use unity and xmonad together is just a bad idea.
[02:28] <joljam> urlin2u, http://paste.ubuntu.com/724890/
[02:29] <urlin2u> joljam, are you on ubuntu m=now?
[02:29] <urlin2u> now*
[02:29] <joljam> urlin2u, what do you mean by ubuntu m?
[02:29] <urlin2u> joljam, it is a miss type are you running the command from ubuntu?
[02:30] <joljam> yes
[02:30] <joljam> urlin2u, yes
[02:30] <urlin2u> joljam, not sure seems like something is broken if that command wont work not sure  what.
[02:30] <Guest18867> Where is the default theme of gnome-shell
[02:32] <reisio> Guest18867: dpkg -L gnome-shell
[02:32] <roter1337> dpkg -i gnome-shell
[02:32] <Luminary> hi
[02:32] <Luminary> im having problems with my new ubuntu install
[02:32] <roter1337> 's goin on
[02:32] <Luminary> i cant install anything from apt
[02:33] <Guest18867> What dose that mean?
[02:33] <roter1337> What
[02:33] <Luminary> i cant install anything
[02:33] <Luminary> like
[02:33] <Luminary> hang on
[02:33] <roter1337> show me commands
[02:33] <Luminary> ok so like
[02:33] <Luminary> im REALLY
[02:33] <Luminary> out of date
[02:33] <Luminary> and
[02:33] <FloodBot1> Luminary: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:33] <Luminary> i try to dist-upgrade
[02:33] <roter1337> your not 11.10?
[02:33] <Luminary> no
[02:33] <roter1337> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:34] <Luminary> alright ill try that
[02:34] <Luminary> hm says to do apt-get -f install
[02:34] <Luminary> brb
[02:34] <roter1337> To it then
[02:34] <roter1337> sudo apt-get -f install
[02:34] <roter1337> That means some package dependencies are broken
[02:35] <Luminary> okay so i did dist-upgrade
[02:35] <Luminary> and i got this
[02:35] <Luminary> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:35] <roter1337> That means ur upgraded
[02:35] <roter1337> what version you running?
[02:35] <Luminary> 4.10
[02:35] <roter1337> Really?
[02:35] <Luminary> yes
[02:35] <roter1337> Just download iso file
[02:35] <Luminary> this install is really important to me
[02:35] <roter1337> itll take way to long to run the upgrade path from that far back
[02:36] <roter1337> are you trying to install 11.10?
[02:36] <pnorman> I did control-alt-f2 to bring up a console on the install - how do I get back to where I was before?
[02:36] <roter1337> because anything below 10.04 is not supported
[02:36] <Luminary> i dont know about all that, but im still stuck in 2004
[02:36] <bekks> Luminary: You ages too late. You can update to 5.04, then 5.10 ...
[02:36] <Luminary> bekks, dist upgrade doesnt work though
[02:36] <bekks> And since nothing else less 10.04 is supported anymore, you have to reinstall.
[02:36] <bekks> No chance to update.
[02:36] <Luminary> omg
[02:36] <Luminary> rly
[02:36] <roter1337> yup
[02:37] <dageriv> when i extract with tar -xzvf file.tar.gz, it create the whole hierarchy of folders /home/user/, but i simply wanted to tar a folder. how can i remove all that folder hierarchy?
[02:37] <bekks> Luminary: Yes.
[02:37] <roter1337> rm /*
[02:37] <bekks> roter1337: Stop that shit.
[02:37] <roter1337> sorry
[02:37] <psingh> Luminary, if you're concerned about your data, you can install from the iso and keep your files and data.  Going from 4.10 will mean your application settings/preferences will be useless in 11.10, any way.
[02:38] <xangua> !language | bekks
[02:38] <bekks> xangua: k.
[02:38] <dageriv> holy f, stuff is getting deleted
[02:38] <dageriv> what does rm /* do?
[02:38] <JeremyH> !language | dageriv
[02:38] <roter1337> deletes everything in a directory
[02:38] <roter1337> but the directory itself
[02:38] <h00k> dageriv: Please keep commands not dangerous in here.
[02:40] <kz> Hello all. I am having trouble with tftpd with my ubuntu 11.10 32bit install. I instalted tftpd-hpa with apt-get and it works fine locally. I can run "
[02:40] <MrPocketz> no dice
[02:40] <kz> Hello all. I am having trouble with tftpd with my ubuntu 11.10 32bit install. I instalted tftpd-hpa with apt-get and it works fine locally. I can run "tftp <ip> -c get <file>" sucesfully.  The same command hangs when I run it from a different machine
[02:40] <MrPocketz> installed, bounced
[02:40] <MrPocketz> shits still huge
[02:41] <h00k> MrPocketz: Please keep the langage appropriate in here
[02:41] <MrPocketz> sorry
[02:41] <reisio> kz: maybe it's a local IP to the first machine and the second isn't on the same network
[02:41] <kz> Any ideas why tftpd is not reachable from my other machines? I can reach my webserver from other machines
[02:41] <toltoltol> fuck
[02:41] <h00k> !language | toltoltol
[02:42] <roter1337> lol
[02:42] <kz> reisio: I think tftpd is bound to 0.0.0.0, the tftpd get I ran was on the public ip (not localhost)
[02:42] <kz> resisio: I can reach my apache server from teh second machine
[02:45] <dageriv> when I run tar -czf, it creates a tar with /home/user/Documents/files, so when I extract I get all those folders. how can I "just" tar the "files" folder?
[02:46] <reisio> dageriv: http://www.google.com/search?q=tar%20extract%20specific%20file welcome to the internet
[02:46] <Guest49105> -ichar-
[02:47] <h00k> !google | reisio
[02:47] <dageriv> reisio: i want to extract everything, but i dont want all those folders when i extract, i only want the "files" folder
[02:47] <reisio> h00k: this is how they get it
[02:47] <quixotedon> hi
[02:47] <dageriv> or rather, i dont want all those folders when i tar, i simply want to tar the "files" folder
[02:47] <reisio> dageriv: ah
[02:47] <h00k> reisio: we don't condone telling people to 'google' it in here. Please don't do so.
[02:48] <quixotedon> i'm using 11.10 but seems that this ver often crashes
[02:48] <reisio> dageriv: and it's too much trouble to cd there first?
[02:48] <dageriv> yes
[02:48] <reisio> h00k: I made no such statement
[02:48] <reisio> dageriv: heh, okay
[02:48] <dageriv> no, wait, im not clearly explaining what i want
[02:48] <reisio> dageriv: that'd be -C
[02:48] <reisio> dageriv: no you are
[02:50] <MrPocketz> SOH
[02:51] <dageriv> reisio: when i run tar -czf files.tar.gz ~/Documents/files, the tar contains all those folders /home/user/Documents/files, but i simply want the tarbaøø to contain the folder "files"
[02:51] <reisio> dageriv: yes I understood you eventually, you want -C
[02:51] <bekks> dageriv: tar -czf files.tar.gz ~/Documents/files/
[02:52] <bekks> Notice the / at the end.
[02:52] <Luminary> ok im downloading 3.0.4 kernel source to compile for my ubuntu 4.10 64 bit
[02:52] <bekks> Luminary: 4.10 isnt supported anymore...
[02:52] <h00k> Luminary: That's not going to be supported in here
[02:52] <xangua> Luminary: please download a suported ubuntu version ubuntu.com
[02:53] <reisio> bekks: not what he means :D
[02:53] <quixotedon> anyone here using 11.10?
[02:53] <reisio> dageriv: tar -czf files.tar.gz files -C ~/Documents
[02:53] <h00k> quixotedon: sure, people are.  Go ahead and ask your actual question
[02:53] <bekks> reisio: ah, ok. :)
[02:54] <dageriv> look here: http://folk.ntnu.no/dageriv/s.png i only want "files" to appear in the tarball
[02:54] <reisio> dageriv: see last
[02:57] <warriorforGod> I am running ubuntu 11.10 on a dell e6320 laptop.  I can run unity just fine, however when I log into gnome-shell I get only a desktop and the file menu.  The normal gnome-shell top bar appears for about a second and then disappears.  Anybody seen this?
[02:57] <Ibis> Hey reisio, I didn't understood you when you mentioned debootstrap. I've already installed a system to a directory. I can't chroot to it. And I do not know if I can apt-get install things to another directory and know it will work when I actually boot into that new system.
[02:58] <Ibis> warriorforGod: Nope. Mines works fine, jsut a little bit of graphic related issues though.
[02:58] <reisio> Ibis: should, if you do it right
[02:58] <MrPocketz> yeah man
[02:59] <Ibis> reisio: But I do not know if it's installing FOR my "current system" I'm running commands from.    OR if it's installing FOR a system that's in /anotherDirectory.
[03:00] <reisio> Ibis: that's what chroot is for
[03:00] <MrPocketz> So, ATI graphics card
[03:00] <MrPocketz> resolution is way horrible.  "Display manger" says it's 1024X768, but it looks more like 800x600
[03:00] <fatboy21007> Hello, can some1 assits me in installed Nvidia drivers inside Ubuntu 10.04? (and no their not in the additional drivers)
[03:00] <ChrisRJersey> has anyone gotten a DisplayLink USB to DVI card working under ubuntu??
[03:00] <fatboy21007> installing*
[03:00] <Ibis> But I can't chroot, it's archetechture mixmatch, and from what I was told, theres no available 64bit version of "rescue mode" That I can use to chroot FROM.
[03:01] <ChrisRJersey> i have an EVGA UV-16 Plus+ and all I get is a green screen
[03:01] <preecher> ordering a new laptop tomorrow    between radeon 6570m and nvidia  gt555m would there be a better of the two for ubuntu/linux
[03:01] <Ibis> I would simply ask someone to mount their 64bit to my remote server and chroot it, but I can't trust anyone.
[03:02] <dageriv> look at this tarball: http://folk.ntnu.no/dageriv/s.png why is home/dlinku there? i only want to tar the scripts folder
[03:02] <bekks> Ibis: Since you have an architecture mismatch, you cannot do what you want.
[03:02] <reisio> Ibis: you could do it from a VM
[03:02] <fatboy21007> ive tried every command and even did the killin x server way, nothin i do allows me to install the nvidia drivers i downloaded,  Can some1 assist me in manually installing them?
[03:02] <reisio> Ibis: but other ways would be simpler
[03:02] <reisio> like doing it from a liveOS
[03:03] <aeon-ltd> preecher: nvidia, for now. the gpu performance is greater than amd cards at the moment; though really either would be fine then just use windows for graphic heavy applications (games, heavy image editing, rendering)
[03:03] <Ibis> Problem is, in my current situation, I can't do that. :(
[03:03] <dageriv> reisio: -C is not what im looking for. i want tar -czf lal.tar.gz files to NOT include the whole folder hierarchy
[03:03] <preecher> aeon-ltd, thank you
[03:03] <dageriv> only files directory
[03:04] <fatboy21007> i need my driver installed, the system is not picking up the settings, and isnt allowing me to update to current, i have the driverm i just need to know wat im doin wrong, as everytime i try to install from root, it tells me it doesnt exist
[03:04] <Ibis> So  I was hoping for some magic hack for "installing FOR another filesystem".
[03:04] <reisio> dageriv: well then you need a shell script and an alias, have fun
[03:04] <reisio> tar simply does not work that way
[03:04] <reisio> dageriv: perhaps you could use 7z instead, it supports the same formats, AIUI
[03:04] <aeon-ltd> preecher: if you have time i'd google around for relevant problems with those cards compatibility with linux, some may have outstanding bugs that are unresolved
[03:05] <fatboy21007> googles not my friend today, all the tricks i seen has not worked ><
[03:05] <preecher> aeon-ltd, doing now   thks
[03:08] <fatboy21007> Can anyone, please help me manually install my nvidia drivers on ubuntu 10.04?
[03:08] <reisio> fatboy21007: should be explained here somewhere: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:08] <reisio> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[03:09] <fatboy21007> http://eddieringle.com/how-to-install-official-nvidia-drivers-in-linux/     i tried this guide, but no go their :-(
[03:09] <fatboy21007> ill try the ones ya linked, thanks
[03:10] <reisio> ah, learning by random blog post
[03:10] <reisio> I wonder if it will be the doom of this century
[03:12] <SrPx> are there any text editors in ubuntu with level folding like notepad++?
[03:12] <reisio> SrPx: heh
[03:13] <reisio> SrPx: yes, try geany
[03:15] <Luminary> LOL adding debian 5 sources to ubuntu 4.10 worked
[03:16] <SrPx> reisio: he has syntax lightning for the common languages and level folding just like notepad++ where you can collapse/expand by level with hotkeys
[03:16] <reisio> lol
[03:16] <dageriv> reisio: but i have seen other tarballs which does not contain the home folder neither the user folder. they simply contain the folder which was tarballed. how can i do this? each time i tar something, my /home and my user folder, and all other directories leading to the folder i want to tar
[03:16] <reisio> SrPx: probably
[03:16] <reisio> SrPx: notepad++ isn't exactly amazing, except compared to notepad
[03:17] <reisio> dageriv: I already told you
[03:17] <reisio> in fact I gave you two different solutions
[03:17] <reisio> actually I gave you at least two and a half
[03:17] <somsip> dageriv: http://www.unix.com/unix-dummies-questions-answers/15182-extract-tar-files-without-creating-directory.html
[03:17] <SrPx> reisio: I just need that feature to work. its beautiful to have every function definition aligned with 1 click.
[03:18] <reisio> SrPx: my guess is it's something you can manage with geany, but I don't personally use that program enough to tell you for sure
[03:18] <reisio> SrPx: #geany might know for sure, or you could just take a chance and find out on your own
[03:18] <SrPx> ill try it,  this really frustrated me
[03:19] <SrPx> and thank you reisio
[03:19] <reisio> SrPx: if not there are tons of other GUI text editors that do code folding
[03:19] <Acoustyk> Haven't used Ubuntu since Karmic. Things have really changed.
[03:19] <SrPx> unfortunatelly i found none that has level folding by hotkeys
[03:19] <reisio> Acoustyk: that is what she articulated
[03:19] <bekks> SrPx: even vim does that.
[03:19] <reisio> SrPx: which did you check?
[03:20] <reisio> what do you mean 'even vim'? :p
[03:20] <reisio> Vim is arguably the most advanced text editor known
[03:20] <bekks> vim does code folding
[03:20] <reisio> of course it does, Vim does everything
[03:20] <dageriv> reisio: are you sure you understand what i am trying to do? it seems to me, that you think, that i want to extract parts of a tarball. i only want to create a tarball containg onlt the folder which i tarballed, not a tarball containg home/user/folder_to_be_tarballed
[03:20] <dr_willis> vim cured my dogs  mange.
[03:20] <reisio> dageriv: that was somsip not me
[03:21] <reisio> dageriv: I already told you how to get what you want, in various ways
[03:21] <reisio> Vim did my laundry and baked me a pie
[03:21]  * babble does laundry in emacs. 
[03:22] <dr_willis> reisio:  but the cake is a lie.
[03:22] <reisio> Emacs is also arguably the most advanced text editor known
[03:22] <duar> I beg to differ ;D
[03:22] <dr_willis> emas
[03:22] <aeon-ltd> ok this be a great war...
[03:22] <dr_willis> emacsOS
[03:23] <reisio> dr_willis: indeed, it was brioche
[03:23] <duar> Emacs is a great operating system... If only it has a good text editor...
[03:23] <reisio> duar: yeah but you missed the beginning of this conversation
[03:23] <Majere_Draven> uhg
[03:24] <Majere_Draven> progress quest refuses to load on the newest ubuntu, just clickin on it just makes the unity thing dissapear
[03:25] <dageriv> reisio: after rereading your chat, i finally understood how it worked. thank you
[03:25] <SrPx> reisio: bekks: just wondering, if you dont use code folding how do you browse though the functions of your source? if you have to find a function called foo in a source with thousands of functions you just... ctrl+F? ;x
[03:26] <SrPx> i mean folding enables me to visualize every function of a class one per line. i cant figure out how to live without it. is there a replacement for that?
[03:27] <osubuck_> so hows the reception to unity been these days? haven't tried it since 11.04
[03:27] <bekks> SrPx: Using vim, I'll just type esc : /foo enter
[03:27] <reisio> SrPx: folding doesn't help you find something unless you're using a mouse to find it
[03:27] <reisio> SrPx: which is the slow way
[03:27] <Majere_Draven> Best thing about unity? You can use it till Gnome shell is done downloading
[03:27] <reisio> Majere_Draven: heh
[03:27] <reisio> dageriv: :D
[03:27] <randomusr> If i re-compile my kernel with the intel compiler, will I still be able to use it with my Ubuntu install or do I need to use gcc?
[03:28] <reisio> osubuck_: seen people come down on both sides
[03:28] <Toph2> i still can't get my sound functioning after upgrading to 11.10.. Any ideas?
[03:28] <osubuck_> hmm, guess i'll install virtualbox and put it in VM and test it myself
[03:28] <reisio> randomusr: easy way to find out
[03:28] <Majere_Draven> i used to know all the tricks back in the dapperdrake thing, but not anymore, sorry Toph2
[03:28] <randomusr> right
[03:28] <reisio> osubuck_: might not get the hardware acceleration in a VM
[03:30] <SrPx> reisio: not exactly finding but visualizing. you can have an overview of the entire source. at any moment you can see every namespace 1 per line. then every object of a namespace. when every function of any given object. but ok nvm :/
[03:30] <Majere_Draven> Still unable to get progress quest working
[03:30] <osubuck_> just curious to try it, ubuntu has still seemed to keep its popularity, whether it be marketing or just a good product
[03:31] <IdyllThought> In Gwibber I would like to see only the tweets of the people I follow and not all the other random people who comment or reply to the people I'm following.  Is there a way to do that?
[03:31] <zykotick9> osubuck_, i doubt unity/gnome3 is going to work "very" well in VBox - it'll work (assuming 3d support) but not well
[03:32] <reisio> SrPx: dunno man :p
[03:32] <osubuck_> hmm well maybe i'll boot the live cd then
[03:32] <reisio> SrPx: you sound like a Python guy
[03:32] <SrPx> why
[03:33] <osubuck_> just wondering if it would be worth it to install on here, upgrading every 6 months and all
[03:33] <reisio> SrPx: admit it :)
[03:33] <reisio> osubuck_: I think booting the live CD would tell you
[03:33] <buckwyld> currently running 11.04, curious if i upgrade using update manager to 11.10 will I lose all my adds and settings?  like a new install
[03:34] <reisio> buckwyld: certainly not the ones that are separate from Unity/GNOME, anyways
[03:34] <Lach987> Can anyone help me install lighttpd ?
[03:35] <Lach987> when I do "apt-get install lighttpd" it says "Package lighttpd is not available"
[03:36] <Majere_Draven> do you have the right resources set up for it?
[03:36] <buckwyld> ok, ty. so just basic unity settings change then. not a big change.
[03:36] <reisio> l-i-g-h-t-t-p-d
[03:36] <aeon-ltd> Lach987: do you have universe repos?
[03:36] <Majere_Draven> what is lighttpd?
[03:36] <Lach987> erm I dunno :)
[03:37] <Majere_Draven> I want to make an OS like progress quest.
[03:37] <aeon-ltd> Lach987: see ubuntu software tab https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding_Repositories_in_Ubuntu
[03:37] <SrPx> reisio: nop unfortunatelly
[03:37] <zykotick9> !info lighttpd
[03:37] <SrPx> reisio: but id like to learn it too
[03:37] <reisio> SrPx: I bet you would! :p
[03:37] <SrPx> lal
[03:38] <reisio> Majere_Draven: it's a light httpd
[03:38] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lighttpd
[03:38] <Lach987> Thanks aeon, I'll have a read of that page, looks good.
[03:38] <SrPx> okay
[03:38] <Majere_Draven> I get it now
[03:42] <IdyllThought> Anyone able to answer a Gwibber question here tonight?
[03:43] <Lach987> Aeon-ltd: Thanks!!!! Needed to add multiverse
[03:44] <aeon-ltd> Lach987: it worked?
[03:44] <nplus> Hi, I'm setting up backups for a small server. The software I'm using is fairly simple, I can list files/directories to include and exclude and it will back them up for me (those details aren't important). My question is... what is what should I be backing up and what should I omit? My first run through, the backup got hung up with /proc, so I ecluded /proc and /tmp Next time it had problems...
[03:44] <nplus> ...with /dev
[03:44] <nplus> any thoughts?
[03:45] <Lach987> Aeon-ltd: Yeah looks good!!! I added multiverse and now apt-get found the package
[03:45] <Lach987> Aeon-ltd: Now I need to stop apache and figure out lighttpd :)
[03:46] <SrPx> trying to install sourcecodebrowser gedit's plugin. asked me to type git clone blablabla. okay, worked. then asked me to copy sourcecodebrowser.plugin to certain folder. where the fuck is sourcecodebrowser.plugin? ¬¬
[03:46] <reisio> nplus: for a server?  Everything
[03:46] <reisio> nplus: oh sorry you want to avoid virtual stuff
[03:46] <h00k> !language | SrPx
[03:46] <SrPx> oh really, really sorry.
[03:46] <Takyoji> Is there any workaround from keeping the Unity interface from being overlaid upon a fullscreen game?
[03:47] <nplus> reisio: I think the virtual stuff causes problems with the software I'm using... I sent them an email to see what they say. How important is the virtual stuff?
[03:47] <reisio> nplus: mnt, tmp, proc, sys, dev
[03:47] <reisio> nplus: it's virtual, it doesn't really exist
[03:47] <reisio> you don't need it or want it in a backup
[03:48] <nplus> ok, fair enough. so it's safe to omit those 5 directories?
[03:48] <reisio> nplus: yup
[03:48] <nplus> I'm going to take a disc image - in case of a system failure I plan on restoring the image, then doing a full system restore from the backups.
[03:49] <nplus> reisio: Thanks
[03:49] <SrPx> anyone?
[03:49] <reisio> nplus: well, their contents, anyways, you might want to include the directories themselves in your archive, though they'd be easy to recreate
[03:49] <nplus> reisio: the directories would exist in the system image
[03:49] <reisio> yup
[03:49] <nplus> the backups would take care of any changes
[03:50] <Majere_Draven> system image << This guy when he started with computeres, wondered why he was taking a photo of his system
[03:50] <reisio> SrPx: find . -iname '*source*plugin*'
[03:50] <nplus> lol
[03:50] <confoosed_user> Hello world, I am having issues upgrading from lucid to oneric. I downloaded every cd, and put the oneiric one in first. now do-dist-upgrade asks for the oneiric cd and says it doesn't have the right package. Anyway to flush the list?
[03:51] <confoosed_user> I already did apt-get clean, that didn't work
[03:51] <Majere_Draven> No idea how to get progress quest to work
[03:52] <nplus> reisio: should I exclude /var/tmp and /vat/cache ?
[03:53] <Majere_Draven> Tried reinstalling it
[03:53] <Majere_Draven> maybe i should try the gnome shell
[03:54] <seidell> dont do that lol
[03:55] <Majere_Draven> why not?
[03:55] <seidell> it sucks
[03:55] <seidell> get xfce
[03:55] <Majere_Draven> it sucks?
[03:55] <Majere_Draven> Thats your reason?
[03:55] <seidell> ofcourse, haent u noticed everyone disslike it?
[03:55] <Majere_Draven> why does it suck? what are the common bugs?
[03:55] <Majere_Draven> thats unity seidell
[03:55] <seidell> no its just horrible ugly and hard to use
[03:55] <Majere_Draven> ubuntu has been using gnome before that for decades
[03:56] <seidell> gnome shell sucks also
[03:56] <aeon-ltd> seidell: that's subjective
[03:56] <Majere_Draven> very subjective
[03:58] <Majere_Draven> HEllo all youy people.
[03:58] <quixotedon> hi
[03:58] <seidell> hi
[03:59] <TheCowboy> When you type when there are no open or focused windows, and it brings up the text entry box in the lower right hand corner, what is that called?
[04:00] <Majere_Draven> find menu
[04:00] <Majere_Draven> helps you find stuff
[04:00] <TheCowboy> ahh, thanks
[04:00] <Majere_Draven> note, its not a menu
[04:01] <Acoustyk> I cannot get synergy to work
[04:01] <Acoustyk> I've been trying for 3 hours
[04:01] <Acoustyk> W7 host to Ubuntu client
[04:01] <Majere_Draven> Synergy is what again?
[04:02] <Acoustyk> Uses mouse and keyboard for multiple computers
[04:02] <TheCowboy> I can't find any documentation for 'find menu', do you know where I could look it up?
[04:02] <Majere_Draven> .. nope
[04:02] <Majere_Draven> on both parts
[04:02] <rabbi1> guys, looking for a theme, where i can can get more screen space. any suggestion ? currently i can reduce the size of the panel with 19px i want it more smaller. any themes i can still get max size of the screen
[04:04] <nplus>  /lib/udev/devices caused problems as it was symlinked to /dev :/
[04:05] <alazare619> anyone know how i can make a usb install for seven under a ubuntu/debian based distro
[04:05] <alazare619> just looking for a name of a program not assistance
[04:05] <bekks> whats "seven"?
[04:06] <iam8up> is there any way to take a ubuntu desktop install and translate it into server without reinstalling the OS?
[04:06] <Majere_Draven> the number between 6.9 and 7.1
[04:06] <iam8up> something like installing all the server packages while remove all the desktop ones?
[04:06] <zykotick9> iam8up, install services - done
[04:06] <iam8up> zykotick9, what do you mean?
[04:07] <zykotick9> iam8up, desktop and the server version are basically the same, just install services onto the desktop version.
[04:08] <alazare619> im looking for a program that will make a usb install of windows seven that will work under linux via wine or something similar
[04:08] <zykotick9> iam8up, check out "sudo tasksel" to get some general server type options
[04:08] <iam8up> zykotick9, but the desktop has all kinds of things installed, like X and firefox...
[04:08] <zykotick9> iam8up, you could uninstall them if you wished
[04:09] <dalton2345> hello everyone :)
[04:09] <iam8up> zykotick9, is there any alternative to uninstalling every package one by one?
[04:09] <dalton2345> is it safe to do an upgrade 11-04 > 11.10 ?
[04:09] <zykotick9> iam8up, removing meta packages like "ubuntu-desktop" will take care of most of it
[04:10] <quixotedon> once i saw an app that mounts the media on the start-up(windows hard drive), well for dual boot users, this is really helpful since you don't have to mount it manually.. but unfortunately i forget the app name.. any clue?
[04:10] <zykotick9> !fstab | quixotedon
[04:10] <iam8up> i think it'll be faster to just reinstall, in centos there are group lists of packages - simply remove/add the ones to "change roles"
[04:10] <iam8up> didn't realize the server distro was on a totally different set of mirrors as the desktop os...been a while since i've touched ubuntu
[04:10] <quixotedon> ubottu: thanks a bunch!!!
[04:11] <zykotick9> quixotedon, FYI fstab is a file, not an application
[04:11] <Majere_Draven> Ubottu: You rock!
[04:11] <iam8up> is there any command line in the GUI or do i have to switch with ctrl/alt/fX?
[04:12] <quixotedon> aarh?? so what do we do to activate it?? just like startup boot file on windows??
[04:12] <zykotick9> !terminal | iam8up
[04:12] <Majere_Draven> theres no fx button
[04:12] <rabbi1> #gnome is in which node?
[04:12] <iam8up> where the hell is applications?
[04:13] <iam8up> i just installed the latest ubuntu, no idea if this is gnome or kde..or something else
[04:13] <evil_server> if ur on kde try under the main menu icon.
[04:13] <zykotick9> iam8up, guess the direction haven't been updated for Unity
[04:13] <iam8up> got it, click "dash home"
[04:13] <muesli> anyone living in amsterdam?
[04:14] <dalton2345> is it safe to do an upgrade 11.04> 11.10
[04:14] <quixotedon> daiton2345: anything to do with upgrade is safe
[04:14] <zykotick9> quixotedon, lol
[04:15] <dalton2345> quixotedon, are you being sarcastic?
[04:16] <zykotick9> dalton2345, it is a safe as it will ever be
[04:16] <somsip> dalton2345: a recent GoUbuntu poll put safe upgrades at about 90%. Doesn't mean you won't be one of the 10% who has prblems...
[04:16] <dalton2345> ok thank you...i remember people were warning me over doing updates
[04:16] <dalton2345> they were advising me to do fresh install
[04:17] <quixotedon> dalton: i mean, everything i do is just upgrade when necessary, every time the update manager pops up, i'll immediately update without unchecking any update listed.. this is what i've been doing :)
[04:17] <dalton2345> ok great
[04:17] <dalton2345> i just installed 11.04 a week ago
[04:17] <dalton2345> i dont mind upgrade it to 11.10...how long does it take?
[04:18] <iam8up> depends on your downstream bandwidth and processing power of the machine
[04:19] <dalton2345> ok
[04:19] <dalton2345> i'll do it while i sleep ;)
[04:19] <SeaPhor> and how many repos you've enabled, and how many 3rd party apps you've installed
[04:20] <quixotedon> dalton: my own made upgrade problem was i turned the computer off when it was in the middle of the progress and when i turned it on again, it turned out that it was unable to log in, but then i downloaded the iso, burned it to a cd and did an upgrade through the cd and done!
[04:20] <quixotedon> for the upgrade, most of my apps are deleted, so i have to reinstall them
[04:21] <dalton2345> why you turned it off?
[04:22] <dalton2345> it doesn't upgrade the apps???
[04:22] <quixotedon> dalton: just for a matter of curiousity.. :)
[04:22] <quixotedon> the core apps are upgraded whenever possible, but 3rd apps are deleted
[04:22] <dalton2345> haha quixo...curiosity can hurt :)
[04:23] <zykotick9> !tab
[04:23] <dalton2345> 3rd apps is like vlc?
[04:23] <quixotedon> that time i also tried wubi (ubuntu on windows)
[04:23] <zykotick9> dalton2345, thing in the ubuntu repo will be updated
[04:23] <quixotedon> dalton: yeah
[04:23] <quixotedon> ubottu: you ROCK! SHEN SEI!
[04:24] <quixotedon> :)
[04:24] <quixotedon> ubottu: yet you repeat the same humble reply
[04:24] <dalton2345> i'm scared of one thing
[04:24] <quixotedon> wubi on windows takes about 5 GB on your hard disk
[04:24] <somsip> dalton2345: it will upgrade any app that has an entry in the Oneiric repo. You may have problems with apps that do not have an Oneiric package. VLC was fine for me. It was not deleted.
[04:25] <dalton2345> i have a usb tuner...didn't work in lucid but actually works great in 11.04
[04:25] <dalton2345> i'm scared to jump to 11.10 for that...if it stop working :o
[04:26] <bcohen> Is it possible to download compiz fusion from one PC and install it on another? As opposed to downloading from the command line (ubuntu)
[04:26] <quixotedon> dalton2345: prepare for a backup, but i think 11.10 works better than 11.04
[04:26] <ChogyDan> bcohen: what exactly are you trying to do?
[04:26] <zykotick9> bcohen, you could copy the DEBs from /var/cache/apt/archive or see "/msg ubottu aptoncd"
[04:27] <dalton2345> true quixo
[04:27] <quixotedon> all: any ebooks available for download to learn Terminal/bash command line from the very basic?? I'm still a newbie on terminal stuff.. thanks
[04:28] <dalton2345> i think its time i try an upgrade lol it will save me a cd ;)
[04:28] <somsip> quixotedon: the ubuntu manual might be a place to start
[04:28] <quixotedon> somsip: where can i find it?
[04:28] <bcohen> ChogyDan, my internet at home is very slow currently and I want to download all the files I need while Im at my girl's place
[04:28] <zykotick9> !manual | quixotedon
[04:28] <dalton2345> will it keep my setting?
[04:28] <bcohen> and then copy the files to USB and install on ubuntu on my home PC
[04:28] <somsip> zykotick9: thanks
[04:29] <quixotedon> hey guys, i found out 11.10 dash responses bit second latter than 11.04
[04:30] <quixotedon> thanks ubottu and somsip, this chat is surely next thing to hang out to learn things.. :)
[04:30] <dalton2345> quixo you using gnome classic?
[04:30] <quixotedon> unity i supposed
[04:30] <dalton2345> i use gnome classic :)
[04:30] <iam8up> is unity another desktop manager like gnome or kde?
[04:31] <zykotick9> !nounity | dalton2345
[04:31] <dalton2345> so the upgrade keep my setting?
[04:31] <quixotedon> i started using ubuntu since 10.10
[04:31] <zykotick9> dalton2345, consider your gnome2 settings useless
[04:31] <flynn> Is there an Ubuntu desktop room?
[04:31] <somsip> dalton2345: I found it forced Unity3d on me, but it was a simple case of changing the default session back again
[04:31] <arooni-mobile> hi folks;  it seems on ubuntu 11.10; the wireless icon causes the computer to temporarily lock up a bit.  anyway to fix that?
[04:31] <dalton2345> ohhhhhhh zykotick...you got me scarred now
[04:31] <zykotick9> flynn, you're there ;)
[04:32] <dalton2345> i'll have to do some reading about that...i'll wait for the upgrade
[04:32] <MrCartel> So I have a dir A which contains a symlink B that points back to A. When I try to rm B, it says it is a dir. When I do an ls it says its a symlink. Any idea why?
[04:32] <zykotick9> !tab > dalton2345
[04:32] <ejv> MrCartel: why not remove A
[04:32] <dalton2345> thanks ubottu :)
[04:32] <flynn> zykotick9:  My bad it says Ubuntu Servers"
[04:32] <quixotedon> the problem i found was the ghost like of the menu when you click on the top right corner icons
[04:33] <MrCartel> ejv: because it contains my data
[04:33] <MrCartel> I just dont understand why I cant delete the symlink
[04:33] <ejv> MrCartel: if you wanna kill just the symlink, a simple rm should suffice
[04:33] <quixotedon> (menus are unreadable or i can say gone, but still with the transparent box right there)
[04:33] <dalton2345> so i have to install gnome classic in 11.10 :(
[04:34] <flynn> Will a genuine dual boot "non-wubi" install give me less trouble?
[04:34] <MrCartel> ejv: Right, however it claims it is a directory. What would/could cause this?
[04:34] <ejv> MrCartel: rm B/ != rm B
[04:34] <ejv> understand?
[04:34] <zykotick9> flynn, wubi is a terrible idea
[04:34] <dalton2345> do it with a cd flynn
[04:34] <dalton2345> its the best way
[04:34] <MrCartel> ejv: arg that would be it
[04:35] <flynn> dalton2345, I don't have a drive.
[04:35] <quixotedon> zykotick9: are u sure?? then i gotta delete wubi on my hard disk
[04:35] <zykotick9> dalton2345, gnome2 is done, you can't install it - there is a gnome3 fallback that is similar to gnome2, but not the same
[04:35] <ejv> MrCartel: and knowing is half the battle ;)
[04:35] <zykotick9> quixotedon, use wubi if you wish!
[04:35] <MrCartel> ejv: thanks for help
[04:35] <ejv> np
[04:35] <quixotedon> dalton2345: why not give gnome3 a shot???
[04:35] <dalton2345> ouch flynn
[04:35] <test> can someone tell me what the difference between ubuntu and xubuntu is?
[04:36] <zykotick9> test desktop environments used: ubuntu = unity, xubuntu = xfce
[04:36] <quixotedon> zykotick9: i just tried installing it for an addition, now i'm using ubuntu
[04:36] <dalton2345> i dont want all the gadget quixo...i want it simple and fast
[04:36] <flynn> test, less 'fancy dancyness
[04:36] <x_> xfce is much faster than unity ;-)
[04:37] <test> okay thanks
[04:38] <flynn> dalton2345 is there a flash drive install
[04:38] <dalton2345> yes there is flynn...but i never done it
[04:38] <zykotick9> flynn, yes, the 11.10 is a hybrid iso/flash image to begin with - you can dd or cat it to a USB
[04:39] <x_> or use the startup disk creator so he doesn't kill his whole machine with dd ;-)
[04:39] <pnorman> my ubuntu raid resync seems to be going at sync_action_min even though iostat reports no other sigificant IO activity on the box, and I"m not running anything. Any suggestions as to causes?
[04:39] <zykotick9> flynn, see x_'s comment above
[04:39] <flynn> zykotick9, dd or cat?  What's that?  I'm such a newb.
[04:40] <lvidal> hi
[04:40] <pnorman> I upped _min from 1 MB/s to 10 MB/s and it increased, so it wasn't limited by drive speed.
[04:40] <x_> someone quick get me an lsd iv drip
[04:40] <zykotick9> flynn, the answer is yes - and Startup Disk Creator (as x_ recommended) is a GUI tool to create the USB
[04:41] <flynn> OK, but I'm having trouble file sharing.  Do you think it could be just a bad install?
[04:41] <x_> flynn, define file sharing
[04:41] <x_> samba or nfs?
[04:42] <flynn> x_, samba.  I can't mount shared windows folders.
[04:42] <lvidal> ho can I get the uptime from terminal
[04:42] <pnorman> Got it - for some reason it wasn't picking up the system-wide defaults
[04:42] <zykotick9> lvidal, type "uptime"
[04:42] <pnorman> ivixor: "uptime"
[04:42] <l1nuxman> I'm using metasploit console but I'm having trouble because when I list exploits the list is so long that I can only see the bottom last page. I don't know how to do a 'more' or some other method?
[04:43] <lvidal> zykotick9, pnorman thanks
[04:43] <lvidal> the top command can give me the uptime too?
[04:43] <ultrixx> yes
[04:43] <ultrixx> and htop is even nicer
[04:44] <lvidal> how it is don with top?
[04:44] <ultrixx> type top in the terminal
[04:44] <lvidal> *done sorry
[04:45] <x_> flynn, got smbclient installed ?
[04:45] <zykotick9> lvidal, the 1st line of top should be like "top - 00:44:50 up 6 days,  3:58, 16 users,  load average: 6.13, 6.22, 6.19"
[04:45] <flynn> x_, I dont know.
[04:45] <x_> flynn, sudo apt-get install smbclient smbfs
[04:46] <lvidal> zykotick9: my first line is Processes: 103 total, 3 running, 2 stuck, 98 sleeping, 698 threads
[04:46] <zykotick9> lvidal, interesting - different versions of top then.
[04:46] <lvidal> hmmm
[04:47] <guddu> somebody tell me how to setup proxy server in ubuntu
[04:47] <x_> flynn, here is the official ubuntu guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[04:47] <lvidal> I'm trying to figure it out if top can give me a result like this: top - 20:33:57 up 13 days,
[04:47] <flynn> x_, "already newest version"
[04:48] <guddu> hi somebody tell me how to setup proxy server in ubuntu
[04:48] <w30> what the he......! I have 0 users in top. Don't I count?
[04:48] <ScottE> lvidal: that's uptime
[04:49] <zykotick9> ScottE, actually - that's the output i get with top (not using ubuntu though)
[04:49] <flynn> x_, I don't want to mount the shares permanently.
[04:49] <lvidal> ScottE: hmmm.
[04:49] <ScottE> zykotick9: but everything wanted there is available via uptime
[04:49] <lvidal> here' the thing guys, for you to clear me some doubts I have...
[04:50] <x_> flynn, then can you just browse them through the file manager under network?
[04:50] <zykotick9> ScottE, i agree, and lvidal already knows about uptime
[04:50] <lvidal> I have a technical support for some web servers I have...
[04:50] <ScottE> zykotick9: sure, just trying to help lvidal if the uptime info is what was wanted
[04:51] <guddu> will you plz tell me how to setup proxy server in ubuntu
[04:51] <flynn> x_, Nope
[04:51] <zykotick9> !patience | guddu
[04:51] <lvidal> today we had a 503 MySQL connect error and the website didn't load for some time
[04:51] <x_> flynn, some problem on the windows side then i'd guess. folders not shared correctly some how.
[04:51] <sasori> how to launch the ccsm via terminal? :S
[04:52] <zykotick9> sasori, type "ccsm"
[04:53] <lvidal> when I asked him about the MySQL server he told me that the server was always online and show me this "top - 20:33:57 up 13 days" line
[04:53] <lvidal> but,
[04:53] <flynn> x_, they share fine if I use windows.  I'm trying to phase windows off my machine.
[04:53] <lvidal> for me, that's just the linux uptime, that doesn't show me nothing about MySQL server
[04:53] <lvidal> am I wrong?
[04:54] <x_> flynn, wait... are the shared folders your trying to access on a windows machine or ?
[04:55] <zykotick9> x_, i think you should perhaps ask "remove windows machine" ;)
[04:55] <zykotick9> s/remove/remote/
[04:55] <lvidal> MySQL it's just a software on the machine, so… I think the top uptime doesn't help a lot
[04:55] <x_> zykotick9, always the best option of course ;-P
[04:56] <lvidal> am I right or this guy is kidding with me?
[04:56] <flynn> Yeah, on this machine I can use windows or Ubuntu.  But, I'm trying to share files (browse files) on another machine that just has windows on it.
[04:57] <x_> lvidal, yea, just cause the machine is powered on doesn;t mean mysql is running correctly.
[04:57] <ScottE> lvidal: yes, the top uptime is useless for monitoring mysql
[04:57] <x_> flynn, the SERVER (shared files) are on a windows machine, or the files are on a linux machine your answer is confusing me.
[04:58] <somsip> lvidal: in that format, top is displaying total uptime of the server. Top also shows uptime of particular process, such as "1260 mysql     20   0  236m  28m 3672 S    1  0.7   1:44.17 mysqld  "
[04:58] <lvidal> x_, ScottE: ok, just as I though.
[04:59] <flynn> x_,  I want access to files/folders on a windows machine.
[05:00] <x_> flynn, smbclient -L ip-of-machine
[05:00] <_0spacetime0_> irssi is the best
[05:00] <flynn> x_, ip of windows machine
[05:01] <flynn> ?
[05:01] <x_> -_-
[05:01] <SrPx> okay im gonna cry
[05:01] <x_> flynn, i don't know what the ip of your machine is man.
[05:01] <SrPx> 1 hour trying to install a plugin
[05:02] <SrPx> had to read tutorials even to move a file
[05:02] <SrPx> :/
[05:04] <SrPx> how do I install the source code browser plugin for gedit? they say download the plugin and paste it in ~/.local/share/gedit/plugins. i had to create that folder because it didnt exist. pasted the stuff there, restarted gedit. nothing of the plugin appaering on the list.
[05:05] <SrPx> so i searched for the other plugins i had. found the folder where they were. copied the stuff there. nothing again
[05:05] <joshwebb> I recently upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and ever since when I vnc into my server there is no way to display the dashboard, I get one icon and a weird menu that has options for "creating new windows", do I need to change vnc settings to correct this?
[05:05] <flynn> x-,  it's showing info on printers and then...  "session request to 192.168.x.x failed (Called name not present)
[05:05] <flynn> session request to 192 failed (Called name not present)
[05:05] <flynn> Domain=[SCOOBY1] OS=[Windows 5.1] Server=[Windows 2000 LAN Manager]
[05:05] <flynn> "   I put x's in Ip.
[05:06] <flynn> x_, oh, and it has shared docs in there too.
[05:06] <Evanescence> I find some package install like this "gem install packagename" , how can I install this "gem" on ubuntu ?
[05:06] <SrPx> nobody knows?
[05:07] <zykotick9> !info gem | Evanescence perhaps this?  but I'm not sure.
[05:07] <|ntegra|> SrPx: you may have to just log out and then log in again (restart gnome)
[05:07] <Evanescence> zykotick9: gem is a command from Ruby.
[05:08] <zykotick9> Evanescence, i've seen references to gem before, but never used it myself.  Good luck.
[05:08] <Evanescence> zykotick9: thanks still
[05:09] <x_> flynn, you will need to mount using the link I gave earlier using cifs.
[05:09] <flynn> x_, ok
[05:09] <r4f4zr4> hello all..
[05:11] <SrPx> okay ill try that ...
[05:12] <SrPx> by the way do I have to open nautilus as su and browser the entire path to a file everytime i need to move it??
[05:12] <SrPx> browse*
[05:13] <zykotick9> SrPx, how are you opening nautilus with su exactly?  are you using gksu?  (it's not the greatest idea anyways, but don't use su or sudo with graphical apps!)
[05:14] <srjang> hi
[05:15] <zykotick9> SrPx, users only have read/write permission to there home folder (and /tmp) by default, so elevated privileges are required for modifying files outside of /home/USERNAME - but should only RARELY be required.
[05:18] <fubar> Hello everyone, I am running into an issue with plymouth boot loader, can I ask here?
[05:18] <zykotick9> fubar, are you using ubuntu?  if so, ask away.
[05:19] <zykotick9> fubar, and plymouth isn't technically a "boot loader" it's a splash screen
[05:19] <fubar> Yes, I am. The issue I am having is really strange it just started today after a system update. I have a LUKS encrypted LVM that no longer unlocks on boot.
[05:19] <fubar> When I take the drive out and boot from an older ubuntu machine it works fine
[05:22] <SrPx> zykotick9: for instance I just had to move some files to a folder to enable a gedit plugin. how am I supposed to do that? i used to go to the folder where the files are, ctrl+c them, go to the destination folder, ctrl+v. it doesnt work on ubuntu because of privileges.
[05:22] <zykotick9> SrPx, correct.  I understood what you where doing.  My question was how did you start nautilus to make it work?
[05:23] <SrPx> sudo nautilus but you said i shouldnt do this way?
[05:23] <fubar> The exact error message I get on boot is "No key available with this passphrase"
[05:23] <zykotick9> SrPx, ya, use "gksu nautilus" if you have to
[05:23] <zykotick9> !gksu | SrPx
[05:24] <iam8up> i have this package that has all of these dependencies, including java - it keeps saying these have dependencies of their own - is there any easy arguement to install them with apt-get or do i have to specify it to install every last one?
[05:25] <zykotick9> iam8up, if your talking command line, and a DEB file, you might want to check out gdebi (never used it myself, but i believe it can do dependency downloading)
[05:25] <SrPx> zykotick9: hmm okay, I'll do that, thanks. but is this the right way to do this (move things around to install a plugin?) because its kinda worky if I have to do this everytime
[05:25] <iam8up> zykotick9, http://pastebin.com/h3FPhMdn
[05:26] <zykotick9> SrPx, technically "not really".  Using your home folder was the "proper" way to do it actually.
[05:26] <iam8up> zykotick9, http://pastebin.com/CfJMFFXb
[05:26] <iam8up> see what i mean?
[05:27] <zykotick9> iam8up, i don't think gdebi will help.  java6-runtime-headless might be an issue.
[05:27] <zykotick9> !info java6-runtime-headless
[05:27] <iam8up> i'm very unfamiliar with debian and hence its package management, i'm much more familiar with rhel
[05:27] <iam8up> unfortunately...this airvision software only has a deb
[05:28] <SrPx> zykotick9: but arent things usually installed outside my home folder? im still lost on how ubuntu organizes its folders.
[05:29] <zykotick9> SrPx, when you use a package manager (as you should), yes it will install outside home dir - and that's fine.  "technically" YOU shouldn't be playing with those folders however.
[05:29] <SrPx> for instance the lib and include folders are outside my home folder and il usually have to move files around those
[05:30] <zykotick9> SrPx, you really shouldn't be manually altering those folders at all
[05:31] <iam8up> zykotick9, apt-get install -f apparantly makes it do its thing...
[05:32] <SrPx> how not . i should install my libs there souldnt I? also xampp and thus apache were installed outside my home folder. all my web work go under there in a folder called htdocs.
[05:32] <zykotick9> iam8up, good call!
[05:32] <zykotick9> !xampp | SrPx
[05:33] <zykotick9> SrPx, you should try to stick to using software from ubuntu repos
[05:33] <SrPx> wasnt aware of lamp, okay
[05:33] <SrPx> by the way is its 'htdocs' folder installed on my home folder?
[05:33] <zykotick9> SrPx, nope
[05:34] <SrPx> ...
[05:34] <SrPx> so how i am supposed to work on it if i cant move files there
[05:34] <SrPx> :/
[05:34] <zykotick9> SrPx, there are obviously 1000+ exceptions to the rule ;)
[05:35] <zykotick9> SrPx, but for libraries it's not a good idea
[05:35] <grateful> is there a program similar maybe to EasyTAG that automatically fetches album art?
[05:36] <SrPx> okay seriously isnt there just a way to login as su? i wont really mess things up and if I do its okay as my work is backupped...
[05:36] <zykotick9> SrPx, that's FAR more likely to mess things up
[05:36] <zykotick9> !noroot | SrPx
[05:37] <SrPx> !root
[05:37] <zykotick9> SrPx, fyi you can use "/msg ubottu FACTOIDNAME" to get messages privately from ubottu.  She's very helpful ;)
[05:38] <SrPx> wops sry.
[05:38] <pnorman> zykotick9: How was ubottu's gender determined?
[05:38] <zykotick9> SrPx, no need to be sorry ;)
[05:38] <zykotick9> !gender
[05:38] <grateful> is there a program similar maybe to EasyTAG that automatically fetches album art?
[05:38] <zykotick9> pnorman, by her creator i imagine
[05:40] <Operaist2> hello. i updated to 11.10 and now half my programs dont work...
[05:40] <Operaist2> what should i do?
[05:41] <quixotedon> what ;programs?
[05:41] <Operaist2> blender
[05:41] <Operaist2> heroes of newerth
[05:41] <Operaist2> wine
[05:42] <quixotedon> have you reinstall them?
[05:42] <Operaist2> blender doesnt have install
[05:42] <zykotick9> grateful, try waiting 15-30 minutes before repeating questions.  I'm unaware of one BTW, but i love EasyTag (album art downloads would be a nice feature).
[05:43] <quixotedon> Operaattori: indeed you should reinstall it through ubuntu software centre
[05:43] <zykotick9> Operaist2, are you sure your 3D is still working?
[05:43] <iam8up> so what is ubuntu orchestra?
[05:44] <Operaist2> zykotick9: im not sure,
[05:45] <Operaist2> zykotick9: how do i check?
[05:45] <zykotick9> Operaist2, does "glxinfo | grep direct" report YES?
[05:45] <grateful> zykotick9, im sorry, i lack patience
[05:45] <zykotick9> Operaist2, what graphics card?  "lspci | grep -i vga" if you aren't sure.
[05:45] <Madpilot> grateful, Muine fetches album art from Amazon when it can. Nice little music player.
[05:45] <Operaist2> zykotick9: nvidia 7600gt
[05:46] <grateful> banshee used to be able to do it, but no longer do i see the option
[05:46] <zykotick9> Operaist2, open nvidia-settings what driver does it report using?  (i'm just interested if it's nvidia or not)
[05:46] <grateful> ill give muine a try
[05:46] <grateful> clementime has a feature that does it but its one at a time
[05:47] <KnownSQASHED> Hey guys - I'm having trouble enabling usb support for virtualbox.  Should I move to the vbox channel, or can someone here help me?
[05:47] <Operaist2> zykotick9: command not found...
[05:47] <Madpilot> grateful, muine is a very, very simple little album player. It's great, none of the clutter Rhythmbox and others have. It just plays music.
[05:47] <zykotick9> Operaist2, install the nvidia driver then
[05:48] <Operaist2> zykotick9: how? i cant find the additional driver program any more
[05:48] <zykotick9> Madpilot, to bad it's mono infected ;)
[05:48] <zykotick9> Operaist2, you'd have to ask someone using 11.10 then.  sorry i don't know.
[05:48] <somsip> grateful: I like deadbeef which apparently supports album art though I don't use it myself.
[05:49] <grateful> deadbeef never heard of it
[05:49] <Madpilot> zykotick9, meh. I'll pick other fights, that's one that has never bothered me.
[05:49] <zykotick9> KnownSQASHED, are you using vbox from ubuntu repo?
[05:50] <zykotick9> KnownSQASHED, oh ignore my question (if you're using 11.10)
[05:50] <SrPx> okay, the plugin didnt work because my version of gedit was too old
[05:51] <SrPx> trying to install gedit 3.2. have to build. got error libxml2.0, glib2.0, gthread2.0 and 6 others not found. solution is to install each one?
[05:52] <KnownSQASHED> I am running 11.10.
[05:52] <Majere_Draven> I was thinking floodbot was something else at first
[05:53] <zykotick9> KnownSQASHED, then VBox from the repo will support USB (the old VBox-OSE didn't, thus my question).  If no one else answers, you could ask in #vbox
[05:53] <Madpilot> it's not *actually* a bot that floods. it just acts that way sometimes. :)
[05:53] <Operaist2> how do i install nvidia driver with 11.10??
[05:54] <KnownSQASHED> Okay.  I've asked in vbox as well, and the entire channel is pretty much silent.  I believe my issue my be usergroup related.
[05:55] <kakashi__> Buenas nochees
[05:55] <kakashi__> Alguien sabe cual es el Puerto que debo desbloquear en Firestarter para usar el chat de Facebook en Empathy?
[05:55] <KnownSQASHED> I'm not sure if my account is even in the vboxusergroup.  I ran "getent group vboxusers" and it returned "vboxusers:x:125:".  The example online had a username following the rest of that.
[05:56] <zykotick9> KnownSQASHED, as your user type "groups". and you're right, vboxusers group doesn't currently have any members.
[05:57] <KnownSQASHED> Could that be my issue?
[05:57] <zykotick9> KnownSQASHED, i'm not sure if that is your issue or not however
[05:57] <KnownSQASHED> Okay.  I'll do a little more research.  Last time I tried to figure this out, I seem to remember that it was necessary to be in that group in order to get usb input.  I'll see if I can find a reference to it online somewhere.
[05:58] <zykotick9> !es | kakashi__ sorry i'm not sure if you're spanish or not.
[05:58] <Madpilot> ubottu, es | kakashi__
[05:58] <kakashi__> any of you knows what is the port to be open on Firestarter to use the Facebook chat on Empathy?
[05:58] <Madpilot> gah, sorry
[05:58] <KamikazeAndy> Im trying to install Enlightenment E17 on 11.11, and apt-get returns that there are unmet dependencies and "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[05:59] <SrPx> even after installing libxml-2.0 the ./configure command of gedit tells me libxml2.0 is missing. please help. :/
[05:59] <zykotick9> KamikazeAndy, broken packages... you could try running "sudo apt-get -f install" to fix those - or provide pastebin of what's failing.  Sorry, I've never personally used E17 so can't help there.
[06:00] <Planetic> Hey all! I've got a problem with apt-get. While trying doing anything with apt-get I constantly have the same error. I can't google any sollution. Details are here: ~$ sudo apt-get remove mc
[06:00] <Planetic> Reading package lists... Error
[06:00] <Planetic> E: Malformed 1st word in the Status line
[06:00] <KnownSQASHED> This article seems to indicate that it's necessary to be in that usergroup, however I don't think it tells how to join it within 11.10.  Any thoughts?https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/USB
[06:00] <SrPx> zykotick9: you dont know the answer for that do you :/
[06:00] <zykotick9> SrPx, you might need the -dev version?
[06:01] <Planetic> I am sorry details are here: http://www.friendpaste.com/4ZvYLixMPPLXfNq6o7gn4W
[06:01] <KamikazeAndy> Zykotick9, I'll try apt-get -f. If that doesn't work, I'll use pastebin
[06:01] <SrPx> got both libxml2 and libxml2-dev
[06:01] <zykotick9> SrPx, sorry, no idea then.
[06:01] <SrPx> perhaps its being installed in a folder gedit isnt aware of?
[06:01] <zykotick9> SrPx, what verion of gedit are you trying to install BTW?
[06:02] <SrPx> 3.2 the latest
[06:02] <SrPx> 3.2.1*
[06:05] <KamikazeAndy> apt-get -f didn't work. Here's pastebin.com/i2dPs15k
[06:05] <zykotick9> SrPx, i've been searching for a PPA with that version, but can't find one.  Good luck.
[06:06] <KnownSQASHED> Can anyone tell me how to join the vbox user group in 11.10?  I can't find any information online.
[06:07] <zykotick9> KamikazeAndy, have you added some other repo/ppa to your system?
[06:07] <zykotick9> !info e17
[06:07] <larry_> Please help me connect wirelessly to my 2wire router
[06:08] <KamikazeAndy> Zykotic9, just the official repo for e17
[06:08] <zykotick9> KnownSQASHED, the old school method would be "sudo usermod -aG vboxusers YOURUSERNAME"
[06:08] <zykotick9> !tab > KamikazeAndy
[06:09] <KnownSQASHED> Awesome, I'll give it a shot
[06:09] <zykotick9> KamikazeAndy, but e17 appears to be in the default repo with 11.10?  why.
[06:09] <KnownSQASHED> Is my username case sensitive?
[06:09] <KamikazeAndy> Zykotick9, what do you mean?
[06:09] <zykotick9> KnownSQASHED, FYI you need to log out/in for group changes to take effect.
[06:10] <zykotick9> KnownSQASHED, i don't think usernames can have upper case can they?  If your user does, then yes assume case sensitive.
[06:10] <zykotick9> KamikazeAndy, did you add some e17 repo to your system?
[06:11] <KnownSQASHED> Hmm.  Where should I go to check my username?
[06:11] <KamikazeAndy> Yes. One
[06:11] <zykotick9> KamikazeAndy, then "I" can't personally help.  Good luck.
[06:11] <KnownSQASHED> Nevermind. I found it.
[06:11] <zykotick9> KnownSQASHED, "grep YOURUSERNAME /etc/passwd"
[06:12] <pnorman> My ubuntu machine is periodically crashing (dropping connections and not responding to local input), requiring a reboot. What files should I look at for logs that may help to identify the problem?
[06:12] <larry_> This is my first xchat. How should I get help about wireless connection?
[06:13] <Planetic> my /var/lib/dpkg/status file is massively corrupted. There is no way to fix it by hand! How to fix it?
[06:13] <zykotick9> pnorman, i'd start with /var/log/messages
[06:14] <iceroot> Planetic: there should be /var/lib/dpkg/status-old
[06:14] <iceroot> Planetic: replace it
[06:14] <pnorman> zykotick9: not found
[06:14] <zykotick9> pnorman, try tab completion perhaps ubuntu uses a messages.0 or something?
[06:14] <Planetic> zykotick9: Thanks
[06:15] <zykotick9> Planetic, wasn't me ;)
[06:15] <zykotick9> !cookie | iceroot
[06:17] <Planetic> iceroot: Thanks
[06:17] <pnorman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/724998/ is the directory listing - i already checked syslog, nothing unusual before the hang (just cron jobs running which had run successfuly the few times before)
[06:17] <Planetic> facepalm.jpg
[06:18] <zykotick9> pnorman, i guess ubuntu just uses syslog (vs debian's messages) sorry to lead you astray
[06:18] <zykotick9> pnorman, humm, i have both a syslog and a messages?  (not ubuntu though)
[06:21] <pnorman> Maybe I should change what syslog logs and wait for it to happen again
[06:30] <kontagious> how do i make a rotating wallpaper?
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> kontagious: in which release?
[06:31] <pnorman> argh - it crashed again
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> kontagious: nd which DE
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> *and
[06:31] <kontagious> 11.10 unity
[06:32] <stephni> ok guys how can i go to applications without using dash cos i want to use the edit menus
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> kontagious: unity isn't a DE, do you mean Gnome?
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> !notunity | stephni
[06:32] <soreau> kontagious: What do you mean by rotating?
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> kontagious: I'll assume gnome: http://askubuntu.com/questions/67218/how-do-i-create-a-desktop-wallpaper-slideshow-in-oneiric
[06:34] <SrPx> zykotick9: oh my cant believe i managed to compile it. thanks for helping me
[06:34] <SrPx> :D
[06:34] <kontagious> thank you ActionParsnip, i found the xml file
[06:35] <zykotick9> SrPx, glad you figured it out
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> kontagious: all I did was websearch.....    no worries :)
[06:35] <stephni> how can i edit an application property?
[06:35] <kontagious> ActionParsnip, i tried but was missing the proper keywords to search for i think
[06:36] <SrPx> linux is such a strange world for me but i feel itll be worth the effort...
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> kontagious: http://www.google.co.uk/search?ix=aca&sourceid=chrome&client=ubuntu&channel=cs&ie=UTF-8&q=oneiric+changing+wallpaper   worked for me :)
[06:36] <stephni> how can i edit an application property?
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> stephni: how do you mean?
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> stephni: do you mean the options used when it gets executed?
[06:39] <stephni> i have an application that requires i run as root so i want to add gksu in the command line. how do i get to the launcher properties window
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> stephni: you can edit the file in /usr/share/applictions    edit the Exec= line
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> SomeoneWeird: please don't away like that
[06:43] <Math^> hello all, I'm looking for some free/open music to use for my video's, anyone know a good site for that?
[06:44] <N9tShadow> what kind of videos are you making.?
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> Math^: http://www.legittorrents.info/
[06:44] <Math^> N9tShadow: any kind, atm I'm making one from my dog as a little puppy :)
[06:44] <Math^> ActionParsnip: ty
[06:45] <zykotick9> Math^, you might want to try http://www.jamendo.com/ as well
[06:46] <Math^> thnx, I'll take a look there also
[06:47] <Virus_jpg> wecamstudio test
[06:47] <stephni> ok
[06:48] <Evilkiss> HI!
[06:48] <Virus_jpg> hi i am broadcsting this chat using linux webcamstudio at blogtv.com/people/analyzingfunny if you want to see it
[06:48] <Evilkiss> Need help, how to install pulseaudio version 1.0 or 1.1 to ubuntu 10.04?
[06:49] <dalton2345> virus what you using to broadcast
[06:49] <Virus_jpg> webcamstudio, it is Linux only
[06:49] <dalton2345> oh yeahhh...i tried it
[06:49] <Virus_jpg> It runs real nice
[06:49] <dalton2345> i broadcast too but with vlc
[06:49] <Virus_jpg> ooo teach me!
[06:49] <Virus_jpg> lol
[06:49] <dalton2345> i'm trouble with it right now tough
[06:50] <Virus_jpg> i know its not easy
[06:50] <dalton2345> i can do movies in my sleep
[06:50] <Virus_jpg> the webcamstudio IRC feature wels very well
[06:50] <Virus_jpg> works
[06:50] <dalton2345> but live tv it stop 30-40mn after i start
[06:51] <dalton2345> webcamstudio cant do movies
[06:51] <digitaldrown> sup yall im running u buntu on pentium 4 virtualbox 1gb ram windows 7
[06:51] <digitaldrown> p4 2.26 ghz
[06:51] <digitaldrown> it is slow but fun
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> Evilkiss: let me see
[06:51] <Virus_jpg> I have used VLC to see my vid camera
[06:51] <dalton2345> i tried i couldnt do movies in 16.9
[06:51] <dalton2345> virtualbox 1gb digital of course its slow
[06:51] <Amdpc> Hi..How can I know when Ubuntu was installed on my pc ?
[06:51] <digitaldrown> yeah...
[06:52] <digitaldrown> i had to use gnome-shell
[06:52] <digitaldrown> old gnome
[06:52] <dalton2345> digital try it on live cd
[06:52] <digitaldrown> to speed it up
[06:52] <dalton2345> you will get a better experience
[06:52] <digitaldrown> hmm
[06:52] <digitaldrown> does it save files tho
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> dalton2345: using a light DE in the virtual system like LXDE will free up more resources
[06:53] <digitaldrown> apt-get install LXDE???
[06:53] <Evilkiss> ActionParsnip: I just red that version 1.0 support passtrough that i need in the optical/coaxial output
[06:53] <Amdpc> Anyone ?
[06:53] <dalton2345> yes true...but not with 1gb ram
[06:53] <dalton2345> virtualbox need at least 3gb
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> Amdpc: could look at the create time of the /home folder or something like that
[06:53] <digitaldrown> hmmm
[06:54] <digitaldrown> its not THAT bad
[06:54] <digitaldrown> i allocate 448mb
[06:54] <dalton2345> i use virtualbox for very light linux just for fun
[06:54] <dalton2345> arch/puppy
[06:54] <digitaldrown> yeah puppy
[06:54] <digitaldrown> hmm
[06:54] <Raac> is linux better than windows or is it simply the customization
[06:54] <dalton2345> iyes digital but you got only 1gb
[06:55] <digitaldrown> i know
[06:55] <dalton2345> ubuntu hardly run on a 1gb...so on virtualbox
[06:55] <dalton2345> use a light linux
[06:55] <dalton2345> i'm just saying ;)
[06:55] <zykotick9> Raac, are apples better then oranges?
[06:55] <Raac> yes
[06:56] <zykotick9> Raac, some might disagree ;)
[06:56] <dalton2345> raac....its 20x better :)
[06:56] <Raac> haha :)
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> Raac: it depends on situation entirely
[06:56] <Raac> I was joking.. but my point was that.. it is simply the customization
[06:57] <Raac> linux lets users customize more widely and windows doesn't.
[06:57] <dalton2345> linux is so much faster
[06:57] <Raac> that is my take
[06:57] <pratz> hey guys whats the best tool for ubuntu / linux to create wireframe ?
[06:57] <dalton2345> i really appreciate it
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> Raac: people whom are wanting to play the latest games will be disappointed and WIndows is the better choice. For standard browsing and stuff there is not much in it but Linux is free
[06:57] <Math^> zykotick9: nice website, thnx :)
[06:58] <Raac> so hardcore gamers can't use linux? interesting
[06:58] <dalton2345> i was going to say unless you are a gamer
[06:58] <Raac> i thought some gamers were linux users
[06:58] <pratz> hey guys whats the best tool for ubuntu / linux to create wireframe ?
[06:58] <dalton2345> yes you can play some games in it but not all
[06:58]  * phlak_user on standby
[06:59] <Raac> linux might be free . but windows 7 is not bad. pretty graphics, relatively fast.. aero, transparent themes...
[06:59] <dalton2345> blue screen too lol
[06:59] <Raac> hehe haven't got it yet on w7
[06:59] <Madpilot> Raac, Linux is much lower maintenance than Windows. No real worry about viruses, malware, etc, harder to install random crap that clogs up the system.
[06:59] <phlak_user> !offtopic
[07:00] <dalton2345> raac you need to try it :)
[07:00] <digitaldrown> im going to do freebsd 7.1 with xfce
[07:00] <Raac> interesting.. so viruses don't work on linux because their platforms are different
[07:00] <digitaldrown> that should be quick enough with 1gb
[07:00] <zykotick9> !virus | Raac
[07:01] <pratz> hey guys whats the best tool for ubuntu / linux to create wireframe ?
[07:01] <Raac> I don't use antivirus. I own a comodo firewall. that works =)
[07:01] <pratz> hey guys whats the best tool for ubuntu / linux to create wireframe / mockups  ?
[07:01] <dalton2345> digital i never tried freebsd
[07:01] <chaospsychex> blender
[07:01] <digitaldrown> do you guys like MonoDevelop?
[07:01] <digitaldrown> i have dalton it is nice
[07:01] <digitaldrown> and FAST
[07:01] <digitaldrown> pure unix
[07:01] <FloodBot1> digitaldrown: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:01] <Raac> I might give linux a shot sometime in the future when I get time.. seems like something worth trying at least.
[07:01] <chaospsychex> pratz: blender, in the software center
[07:01] <digitaldrown> Raac you def should
[07:01] <digitaldrown> you can put it on a usb stick for petes sake
[07:01] <dalton2345> isn't bsd different than linux
[07:01] <digitaldrown> and run live
[07:02] <digitaldrown> yes
[07:02] <digitaldrown> and the same
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> Raac: not all the latest games for Windows run in Wine
[07:02] <digitaldrown> saem terminal commands
[07:02] <FloodBot1> digitaldrown: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:02] <zykotick9> dalton2345, yes - bsd is unix, linux is linux ;)
[07:02] <digitaldrown> its halfway downloaded :)
[07:02] <chaospsychex> gnu/linux
[07:02] <Joakal> I'm trying to perform an upgrade of nginx binary that's being supervised by runit. Anyone have tips? Or where I can look for help with Runit? /confused
[07:02] <dalton2345> ohhh i may try it :) too
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> Raac: you mean a distro. Linux is on ly the kernel ;)
[07:02] <dalton2345> hahaha
[07:03] <zykotick9> chaospsychex, my bad.  bsd is unix, linux is gnu/linux (most of the time)
[07:03] <Raac> haha yah I only know linux.
[07:03] <digitaldrown> unix is the same
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> Evilkiss: still searching PPAs
[07:03] <digitaldrown> as far as i can tell
[07:03] <digitaldrown> you can run gnome
[07:03] <chaospsychex> linux is gnu, gnu is linux
[07:04] <digitaldrown> and the packaging system on freebsd is amazing
[07:04]  * phlak_user gnu aint unix
[07:04] <dalton2345> digital u know puppy/arch ?
[07:04] <zykotick9> chaospsychex, not always true - android has nothing to do with gnu
[07:04] <digitaldrown> yeah ive used it once or twice i think.. or at lesast had install screen
[07:04] <dalton2345> i installed arch on an old pc with 300mo ram and it works lol
[07:04] <digitaldrown> ncie
[07:04] <chaospsychex> freebsd package system is called what?
[07:04] <digitaldrown> i forget :P
[07:04] <zykotick9> chaospsychex, ports is one option
[07:04] <dalton2345> i can play video, browse the web and everything, i was surprised
[07:04] <digitaldrown> but i remember it was awesome
[07:04] <dirkle> hello, can someone help me. I'm trying to setup a bridge with a virtual machine without modifying the interfaces file
[07:05] <digitaldrown> i'll be back in BSD later
[07:05] <dirkle> I can't find any good documents through google that fit this
[07:05] <phlak_user> dirkle, use bridge-utils ; commands like brctl help you control on the fly
[07:05] <phlak_user> !info bridge-utils | dirkle
[07:05] <chaospsychex> digitaldrown: why was it so awesome
[07:06] <dirkle> phlak_user, thanks, I'll take a look into that
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> dirkle: if its in virtualbox, you can set the interface to be bridged in the config
[07:07] <dirkle> well, we tried just setting up the bridge, but it borked the network card such that we could no longer send or receive anything through the card
[07:07] <Operaist2> how do i check my nvidia driver version with 11.10?
[07:07] <dirkle> so we haven't gotten to setting the interface in virt-manager
[07:07] <zykotick9> Operaist2, open nvidia-settings is one method
[07:07] <harsh343> I am not able to copy or create an file in www directory in ubantu ????
[07:08] <Operaist2> zykotick9: there is no such thing as nvidia-settings for me
[07:08] <phlak_user> harsh343, use sudo
[07:08] <harsh343> phlak_user, hows ?
[07:08] <zykotick9> Operaist2, then my guess is you don't have the proprietary nvidia driver installed (unless it's become a separate package)
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> Operaist2: nvidia-settings tells you on the first screen
[07:09] <zykotick9> !info nvidia-settings | Operaist2
[07:09] <phlak_user> harsh343, sudo cp file1 /var/www/ or sudo vi /var/www/file1.html
[07:10] <harsh343> phlak_user, I want to create a file in www
[07:10] <harsh343> or copy if required
[07:10] <phlak_user> harsh343, im sorry, i am not able to help you beyond this
[07:11] <dr_willis> groups can be used to allow avcess to the www dir also i recall
[07:11] <zykotick9> dr_willis, www-data i believe
[07:11] <ultrav1olet> can anyone running Intel Core 2600K CPU show their 'cat /proc/cpuinfo'?
[07:11] <ultrav1olet> or 2600
[07:11] <harsh343> phlak_user, ok not an issue thanks
[07:12] <chaospsychex> hard343: from the terminal as root, you can use 'sudo gedit <foo.file>'
[07:12] <dr_willis> i never need to do it. but i see that www questiin asked a lot
[07:12] <stephni> an app i want to run as root after adding gksu it won't save what should i do
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: gksudo for gedit
[07:12] <zykotick9> !gksudo | chaospsychex
[07:12] <chaospsychex> ahhh
[07:12] <pnorman> I was too slow to say that
[07:12] <chaospsychex> didn't know that
[07:12] <dr_willis> i bet its covered on askubuntu.com in detail
[07:12] <pipalo> !debian
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> stephni: use gksudo instead, worth a try
[07:14] <stephni> i go to app properties i put but if i close it returns to the previous state won't save
[07:14] <dalton2345> gksudo works great :)
[07:16] <phlak_user> stephni, what app?
[07:16] <kookycookie> i downloaded a tar package with no script or build file..
[07:16] <kookycookie> how do i install in?
[07:16] <kookycookie> it*
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> kookycookie: what is the filename you downloaded?
[07:17] <phlak_user> stephni, you need to save wireshark config explicitly
[07:17]  * pnorman has actually never needed to run gksudo
[07:17] <stephni> where will i find it
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> pnorman: you'll need it for GUI apps like gedit and nautilus
[07:17] <phlak_user> kookycookie, did the page that you downloaded it from tell you? is there a INSTALL or README file inside the exploded tarball?
[07:17] <kookycookie> libva_1.0.12.dedbian.tar.gz
[07:17] <pnorman> ActionParsnip: GUI? :P
[07:17] <kookycookie> i got it from laucnhpad
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> pnorman: indeed. I assume you edit text in terminal
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> pnorman: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[07:18] <phlak_user> kookycookie, what does it do?
[07:18] <pnorman> I oneiric. I'm running ubuntu server - no gui
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> pnorman: then you won't even have it installed :D
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> kookycookie: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> pnorman: helps if I ask the right dude, huh
[07:20] <pnorman> I did wonder
[07:20] <kookycookie> maverick..
[07:20] <zykotick9> !info libva1 | kookycookie
[07:20] <MrGizmo757> dose anybody in here know how to set up  fglrx drivers in terminal using aticonfig?      i installed the drivers using synaptic and i can figure out how to get them working
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: nice
[07:20] <chaospsychex> use the open source radeon ones instead
[07:20] <zykotick9> MrGizmo757, #debian's answer didn't work for you ;)
[07:21] <kookycookie> I need it as a dependancy(sort of) for another app
[07:21] <chaospsychex> is the b43-firmware module included with 11.10 ?
[07:21] <MrGizmo757> nope dead end
[07:21] <MrGizmo757> i have bad 3d support with the opensource driver.
[07:21] <zykotick9> kookycookie, "sudo apt-get install libva1" should install it for you
[07:21] <MrGizmo757> i am as far an aticonfig--initial.    dont know what to do next.  :-(
[07:22] <kookycookie> I need tat specific version x_x
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> Evilkiss: still going, there are 170 PPAs with pulseaudio in them
[07:22] <phlak_user> kookycookie, did you download source? in that case, you might have to compile it (configure; make ; make install)
[07:23] <zykotick9> kookycookie, oh sorry, ya different version in maverick
[07:23] <pnorman> It figure - when I set up ssh to watch the some log files, it no longer crashes
[07:23] <kookycookie> yea, but it doesnt have any make or configure file
[07:23] <kookycookie> zykotick9, thanks tho
[07:24] <Evilkiss> ActionParsnip: oho, no much :)
[07:24] <harsh343> how can i give permissions to create and edit the file in ubantu ??
[07:24] <chaospsychex> sudo nano <foo.file>
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> harsh343: it's ubuntu, not ubantu
[07:25] <chaospsychex> man chown
[07:25] <chaospsychex> man chmod
[07:25] <ultrav1olet> Anyone with Intel Core 2600(K) here?
[07:25] <chaospsychex> !chmod
[07:25] <chaospsychex> !chown
[07:25] <ultrav1olet> can you show your 'cat /proc/cpuinfo'?
[07:25] <harsh343> ActionParsnip, yes sorry
[07:25] <chaospsychex> 0_o
[07:26] <zykotick9> !anyone | ultrav1olet
[07:26] <zykotick9> ultrav1olet, why do you want to see the cpuinfo?
[07:27] <ultrav1olet> zykotick9: I'm investigating some issue but I don't have access to a HT enabled system at the moment
[07:27] <harsh343> please help me
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> harsh343: if you run;  gksudo gedit filename     you will get write access to filename
[07:27] <phlak_user> harsh343, is it so difficult to click on the link that is pasted above and learn?
[07:28] <zykotick9> ultrav1olet, well this is my AMD cpuinfo http://paste.ubuntu.com/725038/
[07:29] <chaospsychex> sudo apt-get install hardinfo
[07:29] <chaospsychex> nice program
[07:29] <kookycookie> if i did manage to install libva 1.0.12, what are the chances it will break the system?
[07:29] <ultrav1olet> zykotick9: that's not 2600
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: lshw-gtk   isn't bad either ;)
[07:30] <zykotick9> ultrav1olet, did i not say "... my AMD ..."
[07:30] <chaospsychex> ActionParsnip: will have to try that one
[07:30] <JetBoyJetGirl> I keep getting this error message "Failed to download package Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tzdata/tzdata_2011l-0ubuntu0.10.10_all.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.176 80] " ... it downloaded 184/185 Mgb sucessfully but keeps erroring at the end. Any suggestions?
[07:31] <phlak_user> JetBoyJetGirl, change mirrors and check again
[07:31] <zykotick9> JetBoyJetGirl, "sudo apt-get update" first, or try changing your mirror
[07:31] <harsh343> if i want to create a file then ?
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> !info pulseaudio lucid
[07:31] <chaospsychex> gksudo gedit <filename.file>
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> JetBoyJetGirl: the server is up and files are there, the sudo apt-get update should sort you
[07:33] <phlak_user> harsh343, when i type "How to create a file in Ubuntu" in google, I get 11 Mn results and the first one is this -> http://www.ehow.com/how_5804442_create-new-file-ubuntu-terminal.html
[07:33] <JetBoyJetGirl> how do i change mirrors?
[07:33] <stephni> having problem running wire shark as root somebody pls help
[07:34] <JetBoyJetGirl> i just tried sudo-aptget update to no avail
[07:34] <chaospsychex> !doc
[07:34] <phlak_user> JetBoyJetGirl, edit software-sources
[07:34] <chaospsychex> :-P
[07:34] <linuxuz3r> hey
[07:34] <pnorman_desktop> JetBoyJetGirl: was it what you typed, or sudo apt-get update?
[07:35] <harsh343> phlak_user, yes o got it
[07:35] <phlak_user> harsh343, great :)
[07:36] <vishwas> hi
[07:36]  * phlak_user throws the spoon away
[07:37] <Sterist> anyone know if i can shrink-off unallocated space from the beginning of an extended partition?
[07:37] <Sterist> without issue
[07:37] <chaospsychex> yeah, use gparted
[07:37] <vishwas> Any one from INDIA
[07:37] <chaospsychex> me
[07:37] <Sterist> chaospsychex it wont cause any problems?
[07:37] <chaospsychex> no
[07:37] <chaospsychex> !gparted
[07:38] <vishwas> Any Gubals here
[07:38] <chaospsychex> make sure you don't shrink it over any data
[07:38] <chaospsychex> data will be represented as a color on the partition
[07:38] <Sterist> chaospsychex yes i have it and invoking our bot didnt help lol but this space is at the beginning the partition...
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> Evilkiss: I can't find a ppa dude, sorry
[07:39] <chaospsychex> Sterist: sudo fdisk -l and paste the output to pastie.org
[07:39] <Evilkiss> ActionParsnip: It's ok...thanks anyway
[07:39] <SupaYoshi> Hi I was here yesterday, I want my grub timeout changed, but I can only boot into Windows
[07:39] <SupaYoshi> How do I do it from Live CD without reinstalling the whole OS
[07:39] <SupaYoshi> :p
[07:40] <vishwas> Which is the best torrent downloader for UBUNTU
[07:40] <chaospsychex> deluge
[07:40] <vishwas> Thanx
[07:40] <vishwas> Any alternate
[07:40] <chaospsychex> transmission, lol
[07:40] <vishwas> lol
[07:40] <WeberEInc> Hello all!  Anyone have any success getting an iPhone 3GS with iOS 5 to talk to Ubuntu 10.04?  Since the iOS 5 upgrade, the phone no longer auto-mounts like it used to in Ubuntu.  I can no longer see the photos like a USB device as it used to.
[07:41] <tsak_> how i can restric linux kernel files to be updated. my friends is now using ubuntu a lot but hes laptop wireless works only with earlier version of linux kernel. so he doesnt like that when he does updates the system "brokes"
[07:41] <vishwas> How to install Nvidia Graphics driver in UBUNTU
[07:41] <chaospsychex> don't
[07:42] <zykotick9> !pinning | tsak_
[07:42] <Sterist> chaospsychex sorry i like pastebin better lol http://pastebin.com/0Kb1C1XE
[07:42] <vishwas> Nvidia GeForce Graphics driver in UBUNTU
[07:42] <tsak_> hmm wait i will read that :)
[07:43] <Choconut> Hello, anybody can help me?
[07:43] <vishwas> Need some help?
[07:43] <pnorman_desktop> !ask | Choconut
[07:43] <Choconut> Yes, but I'm a french people.
[07:43] <chaospsychex> Sterist: which one do you want to expand/shrink ?
[07:43] <zykotick9> Sterist, you run without a swap partition? humm.
[07:43] <Sterist> chaospsychex mind you that isn't showing the unallocated space in question
[07:44] <Sterist> zykotick9 yes and no, long story
[07:44] <vishwas> How to get microphone working in UBUNTU 10.04?
[07:44] <zykotick9> Sterist, there does appear to be a gap between the NTFS and Extended
[07:44] <silv3r_m00n> the desktop that I see , is that an X session ?
[07:44] <Choconut> Okay, I'm going to install Ubuntu. But when I boot to the CD. How many new partition musst I do for Ubuntu. One /swap One /racine ?
[07:45] <zykotick9> silv3r_m00n, currently, any GUI that you see is running on top of Xorg yes.
[07:45] <chaospsychex> Sterist: you shouldn't have a problem extending the extended over the gap
[07:45] <Sterist> zykotick9 then that's the one. it's part of the extended partition (beginning of)
[07:45] <chaospsychex> do sudo update-grub when ur done to be sage
[07:45] <tonio> xdcc send #20
[07:45] <chaospsychex> *safe
[07:45] <Sterist> chaospsychex again lol it is PART of the extended. i wasn to undo that
[07:46] <Sterist> want
[07:46] <Shirakawasuna> Choconut: I would go with the default, it should choose one automatically.
[07:46] <soreau> silv3r_m00n: What you see is your desktop environment and window manager but they're running in X, yes
[07:46] <zykotick9> Sterist, oh - maybe not?
[07:46] <silv3r_m00n> hmm ok
[07:46] <Shirakawasuna> Choconut: in general I think it makes / and /swap
[07:46] <Choconut> Okay Shirakawasuna, thank you.
[07:46] <silv3r_m00n> so a webhosting server does not have a X session running , right ?
[07:46] <Choconut> Have a good day.
[07:47] <Choconut> :)
[07:47] <Sterist> zykotick9 maybe not what :P
[07:47] <chaospsychex> Stearist paste screen capture from gparted showing partitions of dev/sda
[07:47] <JetBoyJetGirl> great, the update finished! thanks to all for the help!
[07:47] <zykotick9> Sterist, no maybe about this - i was making a mistake.  I'm not sure there is a gap.
[07:47] <JetBoyJetGirl> this chan is pretty awesome :-)
[07:47] <vishwas>  I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :
[07:47] <WeberEInc> Hello all!  Anyone have any success getting an iPhone 3GS with iOS 5 to talk to Ubuntu 10.04?  Since the iOS 5 upgrade, the phone no longer auto-mounts like it used to in Ubuntu.  I can no longer see the photos like a USB device as it used to.
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> silv3r_m00n: usually no
[07:49] <rodhash> Hello guys.. how can I disable the paste function from middle clicking to double click (left and right button) pls ??
[07:49] <tsak_> zykotick9: thanks! that hold:ing is what i need. i dont have to use pinning :) good page :)
[07:51] <rodhash> anyone?
[07:51] <chaospsychex> !doc
[07:51] <Sterist> chaospsychex zykotick9 notice the position of the mouse. that's what i want to shrink OUT of the extended http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/804/74479431.png/
[07:53] <chaospsychex> Sterist: you want /dev/sda5 to cover the grey space to the left of it?
[07:53] <zykotick9> Sterist, well you can try with gparted.  good luck.
[07:53] <Sterist> chaospsychex zykotick9 scratch that, looks like mouse is removed from screenshot lol
[07:53] <phlak_user> WeberEInc, phones generally have an option that you can set for showing up as storage device; check if this is the case with your phone
[07:53] <chaospsychex> i cant see the mouse cursor
[07:53] <suse_newbee> does anyone know why mobile broadband unable to connect on ubuntu 11.10 with KDM dsktop environment
[07:53] <phlak_user> suse_newbee, without any further details, my crystal ball cant
[07:54] <pnorman_desktop> crashed again :( running memtest, hope it turns up something since that's a cheap and easy fix
[07:54] <chaospsychex> sterist?
[07:54] <Sterist> chaospsychex no no no lol i want that grey space to be removed from the light blue outline (removed from extended partition)
[07:55] <suse_newbee> phlak_user: my uname - output > Linux anonymez 2.6.38-10-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 28 15:05:41 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[07:55] <harsh343> due to some mistake my www folder deleted not how can i restore this www files
[07:55] <WeberEInc> phlak_user, I don't see anything like that in the iPhone 3GS using iOS 5
[07:55] <ndairou> hi all
[07:55] <chaospsychex> then resize the extended partition
[07:55] <Sterist> chaospsychex so that i can format sda4 and have it consolidated with that space in question
[07:56] <chaospsychex> yeah
[07:56] <ndairou> i need a help
[07:56] <chaospsychex> can u even resize a extended partition that has logical containers in it?
[07:56] <chaospsychex> i've never done it
[07:56] <zykotick9> chaospsychex, i believe it's the logical inside the extended that needs resizing.  Sterist
[07:56] <chaospsychex> no
[07:56] <chaospsychex> he wants sda4 to have that space to use
[07:56] <phlak_user> WeberEInc, have you done this -> sudo apt-get install libimobiledevice-utils;idevicepair unpair && idevicepair pair
[07:56] <Sterist> chaosphsychex zykotick9 well technically unallocated isnt logical or primary lol
[07:56] <chaospsychex> and you would have to resize the extended to do that
[07:57] <Sterist> chaosphsychex zykotick9 correct me if im wrong
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> ndairou: ask away
[07:57] <phlak_user> suse_newbee, and how are you connecting to the mobile broadband?
[07:57] <chaospsychex> resizing the partitions INSIDE the extended does not change the size of the extended partition
[07:57] <zykotick9> Sterist, sda3 is the extended - and both unallocated bits are inside that
[07:57] <ndairou> i have ubuntu ultilmate editioin 2.9
[07:57] <harsh343> I am using this command  "sudo rm -rf /var/www" and my files got deleted now i want to store again ??? please please help me
[07:57] <chaospsychex> changing sda5 will not change sda3
[07:58] <chaospsychex> you need to resize sda3
[07:58] <phlak_user> harsh343, restore from the backup that you should have taken
[07:58] <pipalo> How can I edit the shortcats in unity ?
[07:58] <ndairou> after updating, i lose the animation of booting
[07:58] <WeberEInc> phlak_user, the second command returned the following:  QueryType failed, error code -256
[07:58] <zykotick9> ndairou, not supported here
[07:58] <vishwas> Yavanige Enu Gothila
[07:58] <pipalo> context menu has nothing :(
[07:58] <phlak_user> WeberEInc, that is ok (since it wasnt paired)
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> pipalo: shortcuts in wht way??
[07:59] <zykotick9> !ultimate | ndairou
[07:59] <phlak_user> !cn| vishwas
[08:00] <pipalo> ActionParnsip: the shortcuts in the menu bar.
[08:00] <Sterist> zykotick9 understood, i want to essentially shrink the beginning of extended to match the beginning of sda5, if that makes sense
[08:00] <nibalizer> !ming
[08:00] <nibalizer> !mint
[08:00] <ndairou> ok thankx
[08:01] <zykotick9> Sterist, i don't think that makes sense, just increase the logical inside to take up the entire extended (unless you're after something else?)
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> pipalo: those are arrnged by how you order the apps on the unity launcher
[08:01] <harsh343> phlak_user, can u plz give me the command for this
[08:01] <chaospsychex> zykotick9: he is after something else, he wants sda4 to have that little gray block to the left of sda5
[08:01] <pipalo> ActionParnsip: The menu where you can see the open programs, not Dash home
[08:02] <Sterist> zykotick9, what he said lol
[08:02] <chaospsychex> and to do that he has to resize sda3
[08:02] <Sterist> bingo!
[08:02] <pipalo> ActionParsnip: How can I edit a shortcut ?
[08:02] <pipalo> like to change the link in it.
[08:02] <phlak_user> harsh343, its simple; if you backed up your files to say /media/backup; you run this command sudo cp /media/backup /var/www
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> pipalo: the only way I personally know is to edit the .desktop file /usr/share/applications
[08:03] <chaospsychex> even though that space is unallocated it is only avilable to sda3
[08:03] <chaospsychex> because it is INSIDE sda3
[08:03] <zykotick9> harsh343, there is no undelete from "rm"
[08:03] <pipalo> ActionParnsip: CHeers I will give it a try
[08:03] <WeberEInc> phlak_user, I tried re-installing all of the libmobiledevice pkgs and libipod - anything else you can think of?
[08:03] <Sterist> chaospsychex are you saying that the beginning boundary of sda3 is permanent?
[08:03] <chaospsychex> as long as sda3 exists, yes
[08:03] <Guest49732> ciao sono giuseppe
[08:04] <harsh343> zykotick9, now what can i do i want my www folder again and some files also which are kept in under www
[08:04] <Jan31415> I just wanted to update my Ubuntu to version 11. Now it doesnt start anymore. I need the data from my home directory. Nut in there thers just a readme.txt file and an Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop file. HELP!!!
[08:04] <suse_newbee> phlak_user: now I'm using linux mint can but on ubuntu 11.10(KDE) no joy..
[08:04] <chaospsychex> i'm not sure you can even resize sda3 once created
[08:04] <zykotick9> harsh343, sorry i can't help
[08:04] <phlak_user> !info libimobiledevice
[08:04] <chaospsychex> only can delete, add partitions and delete partitions inside of it
[08:05] <chaospsychex> u can resize partitions inside sda3, does you no good though
[08:05] <harsh343> zykotick9, means it is not possible to restore again yes or no ?
[08:05] <zykotick9> harsh343, you deleted it - you've lost those files
[08:05] <phlak_user> WeberEInc, there is a thread somewhere which says to upgrade libimobiledevice to latest here -> http://www.libimobiledevice.org/
[08:05] <pipalo> ActionParnsip: Yup did the trick! cheers.
[08:05] <chaospsychex> harsh343: google 'testdisk'
[08:05] <harsh343> zykotick9, now what can i do ???
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> Jan31415: did you use an encrypted home folder or encrypted file systems
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> pipalo: i'm not sure if they survive updates
[08:05] <zykotick9> harsh343, you could recreate the directory and start again
[08:06] <chaospsychex> harsh343: sudo apt-get install testdisk and google how to use it
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> pipalo: but its the only way I know how to edit them
[08:06] <chaospsychex> can recover deleted files using testdisk
[08:06] <phlak_user> suse_newbee, you need to give more info; is it a phone or a usb dongle; if phone, is it paired via bluetooth or data cable and so on
[08:06] <harsh343> zykotick9, ok thanks
[08:06] <Kage> I followed the steps on the wiki to get flash working, but now instead of missing plugin, it says it is out of date
[08:07] <zykotick9> chaospsychex, photorec doesn't support ext4 though
[08:07] <Sterist> chaospsychex zykotick9 i'm going to check something from my other install when the extended is unmounted. brb
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> Kage: can you give a PASTEBIN of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'          thanks
[08:07] <chaospsychex> k
[08:08] <pipalo> ActionParnsip: all I can do now is hope they survive and other then that it's no big deal I will get gimp instead of gimpbox.
[08:09] <Kage> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/e21rZFhR
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> Kage: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-downloader:i386           then restart your browser, should help
[08:11] <Kage> ActionParsnip: works perfectly now :)
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> Kage: sweet :)
[08:11] <suse_newbee> phlak_user: it's a usb dongle by zte inc i.e k3565-z
[08:11] <Kage> now for Java >.<
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> Kage: you have a 64bit OS. You had a 32bit flash and a 64bit flash installed.
[08:11] <phlak_user> suse_newbee, have you created an entry for it in network manager under mobile broadband?
[08:12] <Kage> ActionParsnip: I see
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> Kage: so we removed one and all is good. Having more than one flash plugin causes conflicts
[08:12] <suse_newbee> phlak_user, yes I did..
[08:13] <phlak_user> suse_newbee, can you tail -f /var/log/syslog when you click on connect in network manager and pastebin the output of that?
[08:13] <phlak_user> !pastebin | suse_newbee
[08:16] <Sterist> chaospsychex zykotick9 gparted will happily let me move the boundaries (beginning and end) of sda3. i didnt hit apply. before i do this, is there any reason i shouldnt?
[08:16] <chaospsychex> no, life is too short
[08:16] <Sterist> lol
[08:16] <zykotick9> Sterist, do you have any important information backed up?  if not, i'd do that first - there is always a risk to this sort of thing
[08:16] <swebo> hi
[08:16] <chaospsychex> just do sudo update-grub
[08:17] <chaospsychex> check the output of the command, should show your operating systems being detected
[08:17] <Sterist> zykotick9 even though the space is unallocated? it wont let me adjust the beginning further than the grey
[08:17] <chaospsychex> your good then
[08:17] <phlak_user> !who | chaospsychex
[08:17] <zykotick9> Sterist, I don't know sorry?
[08:18] <chaospsychex> Sterist: make sure you back-up your erotic medai files!
[08:18] <swebo> i can't connect to a WEP "secured" wifi network here. my system is a dell vostro 1000 with a bcm4311 wifi card. networkmanager just keeps asking for a password. it worked until yesterday with the same configuration. i don't know what has changed. signal strength can't be the problem, i would say.
[08:18] <mattest> yep
[08:18] <Sterist> lol okay
[08:18] <Sterist> thanks so very much :)
[08:18] <swebo> can somebody please help me? i'm running out of ideas ...
[08:18] <chaospsychex> np
[08:18] <Sterist> nothing important is on this hard drive, i'm just going to give it a shot
[08:19] <phlak_user> swebo, someone changed the WEP key
[08:20] <chaospsychex> Sterist: make sure you do the 'sudo update-grub' command after resizing the partition
[08:20] <doxin> logitech m100 mouse, it no work. what gives?
[08:20] <swebo> phlak_user, i'm still connected to the network, with another notebook ...
[08:20] <swebo> and i can connect with the same key here
[08:20] <chaospsychex> swebo: huh?
[08:21] <chaospsychex> swebo: how are you connected to the network, on eth0 ?
[08:22] <swebo> chaospsychex, on wlan0
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> swebo: if you run:   dmesg | grep -i firm    do you see anything about firmware missing?
[08:22] <chaospsychex> swebo: oh
[08:23] <phlak_user> swebo, if you tail -f /var/log/syslog , you might get some clues
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> swebo: also try disabling ipv6 if you don't use it
[08:23] <chaospsychex> swebo: you have 1 wlan0 or 2?
[08:24] <swebo> chaospsychex, only one
[08:25] <swebo> ActionParsnip, the firmware is successfully loaded, as i can see
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> swebo: coolies
[08:25] <swebo> ActionParsnip, how can i disable ipv6?
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> swebo: add the boot option:  ipv6.disable=1
[08:26] <chaospsychex> can gnome3 be used with ubuntu 11.10? which kernel version does it ship with ?
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: gnome3 is default in gtk based Oneiric desktops
[08:27] <chaospsychex> is the b43-firmware module in the 3.1 kernel ?
[08:27] <chaospsychex> no unity right?
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image-generic | chaospsychex
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: yes unity, ubuntu classic is replaced by Unity2D lthough you can install the gnome fallback, or switch desktops
[08:28] <chaospsychex> ActionParsnip: can i use the regular gnome3 desktop ?
[08:28] <swebo> this is my syslog while connecting: http://pastebin.com/sLRi0B1R
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> !notunity
[08:28] <doxin> logitech m100 mouse, it no work. what gives?
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> doxin: probably config
[08:29] <doxin> ActionParsnip: what config and where?
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> doxin: let me websearch
[08:30] <doxin> ActionParsnip: i tried that :I
[08:30] <swebo> phlak_user, this is my syslog while connecting: http://pastebin.com/sLRi0B1R
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> doxin: let me have a go. I'm blackbelt googlefu and 2nd Dan DuckDuckGo-ism
[08:31] <doxin> ActionParsnip: yaaaay!
[08:31] <chaospsychex> wow 11.10 works!
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> doxin: seen this one: http://techvisionblog.in/activate-additional-tilt-buttons-on-you-mouse-in-ubuntu/
[08:31] <chaospsychex> and in a vm
[08:31] <chaospsychex> 11.04 wouldn't display correctly
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> doxin: or this: http://adventuresinswitching.blogspot.com/2008/04/logitech-mx1000-mouse-on-ubuntu-804.html
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: yeah compiz in Natty wasn't brilliant
[08:31] <doxin> ActionParsnip: the mouse doesn't move either
[08:31] <chaospsychex> i might have to come 'home' lol, i've been using fedora 15
[08:32] <chaospsychex> 11.10 is lts?
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> doxin: the specification nd driver loading may make the mouse lod
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: no, but 12.04 is
[08:32] <doxin> ActionParsnip: hmmm
[08:32] <chaospsychex> when does 12.04 comes out?
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: guess
[08:32] <chaospsychex> december 4th?
[08:32] <chaospsychex> or april 2012?
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: look at the version that just came out and when it was actually released
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: april 2012 is correct
[08:33] <chaospsychex> ahhh
[08:33] <gogeta> chaospsychex: wow 11.10 just came out and you whant 12
[08:33] <chaospsychex> gogeta: lol
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: makes it esier to know when  release was out and when it is EOL
[08:33] <gogeta> chaospsychex: someone needs to just eable rolling relese
[08:33] <gogeta> enable
[08:34] <chaospsychex> what does that do?
[08:34] <chaospsychex> updates to every new version ?
[08:34] <gogeta> chaospsychex: always the latest stuff no releses
[08:34] <cielo> ciao
[08:34] <chaospsychex> how do you enable it?
[08:35] <gogeta> chaospsychex: dunni debion and arch do it
[08:35] <Slartibart> Hi. Ok to ask about dnsmasq here?
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> doxin: little sidenote. Logitech hate Linux and refuse to support it
[08:35] <doxin> ActionParsnip: as such. how odd.
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Slartibart: sure, its in the ubuntu repos
[08:35] <Slartibart> Ok, thanks.
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> doxin: the M100 looks like  stndrd POS mouse though....
[08:36] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: sense when my legitec stuff has always loved linux
[08:36] <chaospsychex> arch does it out of the box though
[08:36] <mamoul> I never got arround to trying arch
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: oh there are projects to sort their stuff out but logitech don't make it
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> doxin: seems you need the files outlined in the links I gave. Have you made those files before?
[08:37] <gogeta> chaospsychex: if you can handel a command line and reading a wiki arch is easy enough to setup or you can use a easy to use project like chakra
[08:38] <Slartibart> Right now I have dnsmasq setup listening on 127.0.0.1 to point some subdomain.dev back to my local apache server. But I need to be able to test webserver contents with internete explorer as well which is why I have virtualbox. Problem is that ie can only access the server from the computer's 192.168.* address, so I have to reconfigure dnsmasq somehow.
[08:38] <Kartagis> hi
[08:39] <cielo> !list
[08:39] <gogeta> lol list
[08:39] <Kartagis> I have a problem. when I first start my desktop, network is enabled but there's no connection. I have to stop and start it to get connection. why is that?
[08:40] <ikonia> Kartagis: define stop and start
[08:41] <Kartagis> ikonia: I click the Enable Networking icon twice
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> Slartibart: may help http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/buci-dnsmasq.html
[08:41] <Kartagis> s/icon/menu item/
[08:41] <ikonia> Kartagis: is this wired or wireless
[08:41] <Kartagis> ikonia: wired
[08:41] <Slartibart> If I don't set a listen-address for dnsmasq it listens on all adresses, right? But what to I enter in /etc/dnsmasq.d/dev ? Right now it contains address=/dev/127.0.0.1 , can I just add a similar line for the 192.168.* address? Extra: My 192.168.* changes as I'm connected to different wireless networks, can I use ranges somehow?
[08:41] <ikonia> Kartagis: odd, it should auto detect and start up if you have a valid network setup
[08:42] <Slartibart> ActionParsnip: Right away. thanks.
[08:42] <ikonia> Kartagis: where have you configured the network card, in the interfaces file, or the gnome network manager
[08:42] <Kartagis> ikonia: everything was set up, this began happening after I upgraded to 11.10
[08:43] <sorush20> hi
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: could add a line in /etc/resolv.conf   to run: modprobe -r module; modprobe module          obviously change module to the actual module name, add it above the exit 0 line
[08:43] <ikonia> Kartagis: not what I asked
[08:43] <pipalo> !bot
[08:43] <ikonia> Kartagis: where is this setup, in the interfaces file, or the gnome network manager
[08:43] <Kartagis> ikonia: gnome network manager
[08:44] <sorush20> When I upgraded to 11.04 the kernel that I select shows a dim screen and the login screen is barely visible. So I have to select an older version of the kernel to start.
[08:44] <Kartagis> ikonia: hmm, there's nothing in /etc/network/interfaces, except lo
[08:45] <ikonia> Kartagis: that sounds normal.
[08:45] <ikonia> Kartagis: have a look in the syslog, when you put the network card in do you see the device come up, eg: link detected eth0 connected at 100mbs etc
[08:45] <ikonia> Kartagis: wording simlar to that
[08:47] <qotsa> I have a very weird problem. Suddenly when I press and hold a key (like Backspace) it acts like a single key press. I.e. Backspace only deletes one character instead of continously deleting characters when holding it. It's the same for all other keys too.
[08:47] <pipalo> !botsnack
[08:47] <antnash> someone's put blu-tac under your keys
[08:48] <Kartagis> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/EKP5BFdZ
[08:48] <antnash> individually. I would suggest commending them on their dedication to practical jokes.
[08:50] <qotsa> I somehow disable X11 autorepeat. (Can be enabled with xset r)
[08:50] <ikonia> Kartagis: that looks like it got an ip address just fine
[08:52] <dbugger> Hey guys. I have a small business and I was looking for some billing software to manage things like automatic invoices at the end of the month, and such. Do you know anything?
[08:53] <taraduffy> hi, anyone know how to run siggen in after install?
[08:53] <dr_willis> !info siggen
[08:53] <dr_willis> try the cli?
[08:55] <sorush20> wow there is no real help here..
[08:55] <dspstv> hi all, i upgraded to 11.10 but the theme seems to inherit settings i had from before, it makes my menus unreadable
[08:55] <taraduffy> dr-willis: can you help?
[08:55] <dspstv> sorush20: are you new to irc?
[08:55] <Kartagis> ikonia: so? do I need my syslog when I first book my PC?
[08:56] <Kartagis> boot*
[08:56] <sorush20> dspstv: no just a little impatient today
[08:56] <dr_willis> taraduffy:  with what?
[08:56] <ikonia> Kartagis: no, I'd look (use ifconfig) to see if the eth0 device has an IP
[08:57]  * dr_willis is on his break also.. so nit a lot if time
[08:57] <taraduffy> dr_willis: sorry, I thought you were answering me: "hi, anyone know how to run siggen in after install?"
[08:57] <dspstv> is anyone aware of a way to customize the appereance under 11.10? the themes seem to keep that old background color i had for the menus.. i cant read anything
[08:57] <dr_willis> taraduffy:  not all apps have menus.. so have you explored siggins docs and clu commands?
[08:57] <dspstv> i dont see a way to cstomize that under unity
[08:58] <dspstv> the user evva is sending private messages with sex spam
[08:59] <dr_willis> www.comp.leeds.ac.uk/jj/linux/siggen.html
[09:00] <taraduffy> dr_willis: OK, looking thanks.
[09:00] <dr_willis> all i did was loik for its docs ;)
[09:02] <dspstv> really sucks this user interface
[09:03] <dr_willis> got unity working fine here.
[09:04] <dr_willis> been playing with gnome shell also
[09:04] <dspstv> dr_willis: this is the second machine where it makes the user completely lost
[09:04] <dspstv> i cant read the name of the dirs in the desktop
[09:05] <systemparadox> how do I set a static IP address in 11.04? I've set it in /etc/network/interfaces, which works when I manually do ifup eth0, but on boot eth0 isn't even up
[09:05] <dspstv> the font color is to close to the desktop background
[09:05] <dspstv> but theres no way to choose font color
[09:05] <dspstv> before it was
[09:06] <dr_willis> dspstv:  havent noticed. using dfferent bg ane themes here nit the defaults.
[09:06] <dspstv> i dont understand why it inherits from before this settings if one cant tweak them anymore
[09:06] <dr_willis> gnome tweak  has some settings also.
[09:06] <dspstv> in the Appereance panel one cant do customize
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> dspstv: then use a different UI. Gnome isn't the only desktop
[09:07] <dspstv> ActionParsnip: of course, i will go back to awesome
[09:07] <dspstv> but this is just none-sense
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> dspstv: problem solved
[09:07] <dr_willis> settings and thems have bwen revamped in gnome3
[09:07] <dspstv> revamped or impaired
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> dspstv: I've been using LXDE for the last 4 releases, no issues here
[09:07] <sam595> Hello all.
[09:08] <dr_willis> howdys
[09:08] <dspstv> ActionParsnip: is not about the issues with LXDE, is about removing thinsgand making it difficult for the user
[09:08] <dspstv> but, i guess you arealso just a user
[09:08] <sam595> I have a question. I am installing Ubuntu for the first time now but I think it's hanging. I'm at the point that it says "doelsysteem install" (set target disk) and I see no progress
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> dspstv: I'm an ubuntu member, but technically yes
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> dspstv: lots grab the gnome based ubuntu and either love or hate the UI
[09:09] <dspstv> ActionParsnip: i had gnome before,
[09:09] <sam595> So should I just be patient or am I in troubles?
[09:10] <dspstv> ActionParsnip: is not a question of love or hate
[09:10] <dspstv> i just want to be able to customize the font color in menus and folder names
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> sam595: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[09:10] <Javid> !ssh
[09:11] <sam595> ActionParsnip: No I did not
[09:11] <sam595> I have it on a usb stick
[09:11] <Javid> what package do I need to install to have an ssh server on my computer?
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> sm595: then how do you know the ISO ws complete and consistent?
[09:11] <Javid> openssh and sshd weren't found.
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> Javid: openssh-server
[09:11] <Javid> thanks
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> !md5 \ sam595
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> !md5
[09:11] <sam595> ActionParsnip: No clue, having faith I guess :) So I have problems?
[09:12] <systemparadox> ifup -a doesn't start eth0 either, but ifup eth0 does
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> sam595: until we know the ISO is good we cannot really move on. Get it tested and see what you get
[09:12] <systemparadox> oh found it. Yey for man pages (ifup) - I forgot to add the auto keyword
[09:13] <sam595> ok ActionParsnip Is it safe to just get out the install now? How do I cancel or do I just push the on/off button for a few seconds?
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> sam595: did the installation start?
[09:14] <sam595> yes
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> sam595: ah, let me search
[09:14] <sam595> I got quite far I think. But now it hangs on "doelsysteem instellen"
[09:14] <sam595> ActionParsnip: sure. great
[09:15] <systemparadox> on boot, the KDE wallet and the gnome keyring both ask for my password at the same time- they both try and grab the keyboard and this causes things to get stuck. How can I fix this?
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> sam595: did you partition the disk and setup a user?
[09:15] <sam595> ActionParsnip: yes
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> sam595: is this to be a dual boot?
[09:15] <sarthor> HI, Using Ubuntu, Network-manager can not see my wlan, iwlist and iwconfig results are here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/725087/
[09:15] <sam595> ActionParsnip: yes
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> sam595: is the ISO on the same system you are installing to?
[09:16] <sam595> ActionParsnip: no it's on a usb I made from the ubuntu website
[09:16] <Slartibart> Is it possible to use environment variables in config files? Like, export computer's current 192.168.* ip address to a variable, and then use it in a dnsmasq.d config file that dnsmasq loads when it starts?
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> sam595: yes but did you keep the ISO you downloaded from the site?
[09:16] <sam595> ActionParsnip: I think it should be in downloads in Windows still yes
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> sam595: cool, then you can md5 test that. Ubuntu can access NTFS partitions
[09:18] <qiyong> anyone running lucid here?
[09:18] <sam595> ActionParsnip: sounds good, but I just have this install screen full screen atm. I do have a top bar and am connected to wifi
[09:18] <qiyong> do me a favor
[09:18] <sven_> Slartibart, i dont think dnsmasq would accept variables, but you can just rewrite, or sed -i the config file right before the service starts (or restart/reload it afterwards)
[09:18] <qiyong> ops
[09:18] <qiyong> !ops
[09:18] <dr_willis> unity font color   askubuntu.com/questions/33050/how-do-you-change-the-font-color-in-the-unity-panel
[09:18] <qiyong> spammers
[09:18] <qiyong> 17:17 -!- Irssi: Starting query in freenode with evva
[09:18] <qiyong> 17:17 <evva> hii sex http://livetube.net.ms/
[09:18] <Myrtti> too late
[09:18] <qiyong> !ops
[09:19] <FloodBot1> qiyong: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:19] <Myrtti> klined already
[09:19] <qiyong> who did the k-lined?
[09:19] <qiyong> nice job
[09:19] <Myrtti> freenode staff
[09:19] <mrmist> qiyong: for future info, it's best not to re-paste spam into the channel :)
[09:20] <qiyong> mrmist: heh
[09:20] <qiyong> anyone running lucid here?
[09:20] <Slartibart> sven_: Yeah, I guess that's the way to go. Thanks.
[09:20] <ar3ac> hi there
[09:20] <ar3ac> i have a little problem
[09:20] <soreau> ! anyone | qiyong
[09:21] <qiyong> i want someone to check his /lib/init/upstart-job file
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> sam595: CTRL+ALT+T should run a terminal
[09:21] <ar3ac> sometimes when unity start ( i have the autologin ) the usb keyboard doesn't work
[09:21] <ar3ac> i have to unplug & plug to make it works
[09:21] <ar3ac> any advice ?
[09:21] <sam595> ActionParsnip: Ok let me write it down. I am on the neighbors pc
[09:21] <qiyong> i want someone to check his /lib/init/upstart-job file on lucid. mine is corrupted, i wonder if it should be a shell script.
[09:21] <sam595> ActionParsnip: when I have the terminal what should I do
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> ar3ac: you may want to unload then reload the driver module
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> sam595: mount the NTFS and you can access the data there. I suggest you run:  nautilus &
[09:22] <TheExplorer> Hello, please save me: My front microphone jack has wanted to auto-mute itself since the introduction of these pulse audios. How do i nullify that and go back to old alsa mixer
[09:23] <sarthor> HI, Using Ubuntu, Network-manager can not see my wlan, iwlist and iwconfig results are here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/725087/
[09:23] <ar3ac> ActionParsnip, which module exactly ?
[09:23] <soreau> qiyong: yes: # Symlink target for initscripts that have been converted to Upstart.
[09:24] <sam595> ActionParsnip: Ok I will google the things and try. Will be back later
[09:24] <sam595> ActionParsnip: thank you very much
[09:25] <TheExplorer> ahh its doing it again, wont even get through a song before it cuts out and mutes for no reason... Im very confused.
[09:25] <almoxarife> TheExplorer: auto mute, and you know this how?
[09:25] <qiyong> soreau: could you run file /lib/init/upstart-job?
[09:26] <TheExplorer> almoxarife, well you see... ill be listening to something, then it will mute. Then i have to click the icon and "unmute"
[09:26] <soreau> qiyong: /lib/init/upstart-job: POSIX shell script text executable
[09:26] <qiyong> soreau: was it always a script?
[09:27] <soreau> qiyong: I never took notice but I assume it has always been
[09:27] <TheExplorer> almoxarife, It seems to have something to do with other applications wanting to use the sound card as well. like when i pulled up this window just now. It muted.
[09:27] <almoxarife> TheExplorer: well, perhaps you don't have a fucking idea on how to control a process?
[09:27] <qiyong> soreau: thanks
[09:27] <Tm_T> almoxarife: language, please
[09:28] <almoxarife> TheExplorer: I am assumimg you don't have an issue
[09:28] <soreau> ! language | almoxarife
[09:28] <almoxarife> soreau: lagging?
[09:29] <soreau> almoxarife: Just keep it down please
[09:29] <TheExplorer> almoxarife, You assume incorrectly. The sound will mute itself... without prompt. Most dramatically when i try to unmute my "line in" so that i can make use of my aux audio equipment.
[09:29] <almoxarife> soreau: fair enough
[09:30] <dr_willis> TheExplorer:  so you run xchat and the volume just goes muted on the mixer
[09:30] <almoxarife> TheExplorer: sounds(a pun) like yu need  really espensive speakers
[09:30] <TheExplorer> Ah just now i see a new pattern. every time something on xchat scrolls, like your message just now dr_willis, the output mutes
[09:31] <almoxarife> can we think of of a really expensive sound system?
[09:32] <almoxarife> for fucking al queda skiptkiddies
[09:32] <psycho_oreos> !language| almoxarife
[09:32] <almoxarife> make it difficult
[09:33] <TheExplorer> Yeah so rather than solve the pulse audio problem. What must i do to remove all of that, and go back to what i had in edgy
[09:33] <almoxarife> not that I don't want the muslim wannabees to have a fair chance
[09:33] <Myrtti> almoxarife: seriously, tone it down
[09:34] <GeorgeJ> Is there a development channel for Ubuntu? I'm interested in making a simple app in python that has an  icon in the notification area.
[09:34] <soreau> GeorgeJ: #ubuntu-devel
[09:34] <GeorgeJ> soreau: Thanks
[09:34] <TheExplorer> Almox, i understand youre not as "quick" as some other people, but your hatred only reinforces your inferiority.
[09:35] <dr_willis> TheExplorer:  xchat has a beep on nick feature i thinkn
[09:35] <almoxarife> Myrtti: I want to, are we killing ourselves? you know? we allowing the bad guys to win? I am one of the 99%
[09:35] <Slartibart> Any ideas as to why I get the right adress from dnsmasq when I query for the name I added from bash, but not from my virtualbox windows? nslookup there has the right dns server ip, and other real names seem fine to query about..
[09:35] <Myrtti> almoxarife: the topic of this channel is Ubuntu support. Please keep to it.
[09:35] <Math^> does anyone know how I can use smooth scaling in OpenShot?
[09:35] <TheExplorer> dr_willis i believe you are correct, this could go one step to figuring out why its cutting out my sound when interacting with something else.
[09:35] <almoxarife> Myrtti: yes, it is
[09:36] <TheExplorer>  this is the first time ive seen a troll in ubuntu
[09:36] <almoxarife> TheExplorer: you must be new
[09:37] <almoxarife> troll on though
[09:37] <Myrtti> can you guys just move on?
[09:37] <TheExplorer> ive been playing with ubuntu since breezy
[09:38] <dani288> Hello, I've installed Ubuntu on my Gigabyte laptop and I facing some problem: headphones won't mute internal speakers?
[09:39] <DysonReturns> Greets, using latest Xubuntu - my laptop's screen is stuck on dim (think after I hibernated) and the settings doesn't have an effect. Any ideas?
[09:39] <TheExplorer> Yeah cant even finish one song before the audio up and mutes on me.
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> dani288: run:   gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf    and add the line: options snd-hda-intel position-fix=1     reboot to test. If that is no good, change it to: options snd-hda-intel model=laptop
[09:40] <TheExplorer> I just want alsa and the mixer. How do i kill the rest?
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> dani288: if that is no good, try:   options snd-hda-intel position-fix=1 model=laptop
[09:40] <Klojum> dani288: that could also be a mechanical problem, the socket should disconnect the internal speakers via the headphone plug. If that doesn't work, the socket may be faulty, not the software..?
[09:40] <sskniranjan>  the explore: it may be ur ower savings settings that u ave done in the system properties
[09:41] <sskniranjan> s/ower/your
[09:41] <sskniranjan> s/ower/power
[09:41] <Math^> anyone using openshot...?
[09:42] <Math^> I saw this blog: http://www.openshotvideo.com/2011/01/its-smooth-scaling-from-here.html - but does this mean smooth scaling should just work when scaling, or is it an extra plug-in or something?
[09:46] <Operaist2> how do you remove shortcuts from the top bar in gnome 3?
[09:46] <Math^> nvm, it's in preferences - found it
[09:46] <DysonReturns> nevermind. xfce4-power-manager-plugins -> brightness applet allowed me to set brightness back
[09:48] <Klojum> Is it possible to cleanly re-install Unity in Ubuntu 11.10? After two Unity crashes due to the Compiz Manager, and after which the "unity --reset" didn't help out (Some error messages had statements like "This shouldn't happen" in them..), I'm kinda wondering if there is an good alternative to a total reinstall of Oneiric Ocelot...
[09:48] <obert> hmf how to positioning the toolbar at bottom of screen instead have it hidden on the left?
[09:48] <toek> Hi there, could there be any advantage to having a graphics card for ubuntu server version ?
[09:49] <testi> Ubuntu coming for smartphones? True?
[09:49] <_ruben> toek: being able to connect a monitor sure comes in handy every now and then
[09:50] <testi> Got to leave the train, means shutting down the device (still no Ubuntu smartphone)
[09:50] <vyciook> hi everyone :) any ideas how to on wireless not trought button? on loptop
[09:51] <toek> _ruben: =) besides that, the onboard vga would suffice?
[09:51] <obert> ...
[09:51] <Slartibart> Where does dnsmasq store its logs?
[09:52] <_ruben> toek: usualy? yes
[09:53] <_ruben> toek: the only exception i can think of is the use of specialized computation software which could make use of a highend gpu
[09:53] <toek> Reason i ask is im geting a HP xw8400 Workstation but the fella selling has a GTX 460 in it. Im thinking this only draws electricity
[09:54] <Hot> Hi
[09:55] <Hot> join #mint
[09:56] <nixmaniack> Unable to attach flash drive. Can anyone help me with this?? http://paste.ubuntu.com/725112/
[09:56] <ronzino1983lecce> ciao
[09:56] <almoxarife> Hot: because?
[09:56] <ronzino1983lecce> aiuto
[09:56] <Legend_Xeon> How do i proxify ubuntu terminal? I used "ssh username:sshserver -D 127.0.0.1:1080" to create a proxy on localhost port 1080.
[09:56] <Legend_Xeon> Now what?
[09:57] <ronzino1983lecce> italiano
[09:57] <Hot> almoxarife, nothing ,my keyboard error..
[09:58] <wl> Привет всем
[09:58] <wl> есть тут кто &
[09:58] <almoxarife> don't be afraid, say it, I have a problem and I want a gui way to fix it
[09:58] <wl> &
[09:58] <nixmaniack> Legend_Xeon, perhaps ` export http_proxy="http://myproxy.com" `
[09:58] <almoxarife> this is wh ubuntu works for me
[10:00] <almoxarife> we should expect a gui fix, the home office has decided that gui is the answer
[10:00] <Hot> I hate unity guys.... is unconfortable.... it seems like a game for children...
[10:01] <epic__> I seem to have trouble with my ssh server, i can only log in from local host.. "ssh user@<public-ip>" only works from <public-ip> .. ?
[10:01] <Legend_Xeon> nixmaniack, are you sure its http_proxy? I think its SSH
[10:02] <Legend_Xeon> btw i use socks entry 127.0.0.1 and port 1080 to proxify firefox
[10:02] <Legend_Xeon> And its working fine
[10:02] <almoxarife> if you hate 'unity' , then you know how to either stay in it or out of it, the bitch is mute
[10:02] <Legend_Xeon> The one you posed isn't working
[10:02] <Legend_Xeon> *posted
[10:02] <nixmaniack> Legend_Xeon, well there might be others but i used this one before so just told you
[10:03] <almoxarife> don't like unity? gnome? d0nt like either? fuck off, you just want to bitch
[10:04] <almoxarife> I use gnome
[10:04] <sarthor> HI, Using Ubuntu, Network-manager can not see my wlan, iwlist and iwconfig results are here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/725087/
[10:05] <sarthor> HI, Using Ubuntu, Network-manager can not see the available network ..., iwlist and iwconfig results are here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/725087/ Help please.
[10:08] <Slartibart> When I do nslookup from my virtualbox windows to dnsmasq on my ubuntu host it has to go via the local network, 192.168.*. In windows I query about dev, but the dnsmasq logs contain dev.companyname.int . Could it be that the domain is added along the way? How do I configure dnsmasq to account for this? One live with dev and another line with this? Is it possible to make a wildcard assignment, as
[10:08] <Slartibart> I'm using several 192.168.* nets?
[10:09] <Slartibart> *line
[10:09] <phlak_user> sarthor, is Enable Wireless checked on network-manager?
[10:10] <lharwood> almoxarife: gnome 3 is cool ;)
[10:10] <sarthor> phlak_user: yes. enabled.
[10:10] <sarthor> also i checked with fn+F5 key.
[10:11] <ultrixx> lharwood: and there is kde, too
[10:11] <phlak_user> sarthor, can you pastebin the output of sudo lshw -C network ?
[10:11] <alex-11> HI, I am have Ubuntu 11.10  but it log Out automatic after around 10 min, what should I do?
[10:12] <vyciook> any ideas how to on wireless not trought button? on loptop
[10:12] <vyciook> sudo iwconfig wlan0 up not work
[10:12] <tomodachi> vyciook: what happens?
[10:12] <sarthor> phlak_user: here is the output, http://paste.ubuntu.com/725123/
[10:13] <lharwood> ultrixx: yea, kde is alright used to use it a while ago. Liking gnome atm though, especially how you can display all the windows.
[10:13] <vyciook> iwconfig: unknow command 'up'
[10:14] <phlak_user> sarthor, it shows the wireless as disabled ->  *-network DISABLED
[10:14] <tomodachi> vyciook: i think it would be ifconfig ethx up
[10:14] <ultrixx> lharwood: i like ubuntu 11.10 very much, but the latest kubuntu is so great i can really recommend it
[10:14] <lharwood> ultrixx: k may try it out one day in virtualbox ;)
[10:14] <phlak_user> vyciook, you need wpa_supplicant if the network uses any encryption above WEP
[10:15] <vyciook> hm.. :) i new at this
[10:15] <phlak_user> vyciook, cant you use network manager if you're new to Ubuntu?
[10:16] <vyciook> maybe ;D
[10:16] <sarthor> phlak_user: Yes. and now i did fn+F5 key. and again i lshw -C network, but same result, still it shows, Network=Disabled.
[10:16] <phlak_user> sarthor, has it ever worked on this laptop before?
[10:16] <karaguellek> Hi is there anyone who can help me with the graphic driver pleas i really read everything but found no solutions :/
[10:17] <sarthor> phlak_user: yes. i am using this laptop since 3 months. and same os. Just yesterday i created one dsl account. with pppoeconf command...  after that it is not working
[10:17] <vyciook> karaguellek, system -> admin -> addition drivers?
[10:17] <phlak_user> sarthor, what flavor of Ubuntu?
[10:18] <histo> karaguellek: what card?
[10:18] <sarthor> phlak_user: it is linuxMint.
[10:18] <phlak_user> sarthor, sorry this channel is only for Ubuntu support
[10:18] <vyciook> phlak_user, maybe i can just change key combination for disabling enabling wireless?
[10:18] <phlak_user> sarthor, you might want to look here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10057878
[10:19] <phlak_user> vyciook, why?
[10:19] <vyciook> becose it dosnt work
[10:19] <karaguellek> histo: Ati Radeon Xpress 200M
[10:19] <histo> !ati | karaguellek
[10:19] <vyciook> thats why i cant turn on wireless
[10:19] <sarthor> phlak_user: OK.
[10:19] <karaguellek> vyciook: there is no detected card
[10:20] <phlak_user> vyciook, that isnt a logical way of reasoning. you need to find out the reason for wifi not to work and im sure it is not due to your key combination. that is only to turn on+off the wifi interface.
[10:20] <phlak_user> vyciook, can you pastebin the output of sudo lshw -C network
[10:20] <karaguellek> i am on ubuntu 11.10 btw
[10:20] <sarthor> HI, Using linuxMint 11 Katya, Network-manager can not see the available network ..., iwlist and iwconfig results are here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/725087/ Help please.
[10:21] <sarthor> sorry.... wrong paste.
[10:21] <skore> i can connect to wifi but i mozilla and some others seems to not see network. can that be becouse i didnt send that comp mac adress to my internet provider?
[10:22] <phlak_user> skore, does your ISP require mac address authentication?
[10:22] <skore> the problem is i dont know.
[10:22] <skore> just moved in
[10:23] <skore> trying to guess by symptoms
[10:24] <phlak_user> !pastebin | vyciook
[10:25] <vyciook> !pastebin   *-network
[10:25] <vyciook>        description: Ethernet interface
[10:25] <vyciook>        product: MCP77 Ethernet
[10:25] <vyciook>        vendor: nVidia Corporation
[10:25] <vyciook>        physical id: a
[10:25] <FloodBot1> vyciook: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:25] <vyciook>        bus info: pci@0000:00:0a.0
[10:26] <harsh343> How can i give all permissions to admin like copy, paste, create, move and all those tasks, right now i m only the admin but not able to do that graphically, it is only possible through commands and i m newbie in ubuntu so plz help me
[10:26] <histo> sarthor: what type of wifi card?
[10:27] <phlak_user> harsh343, you dont need to explicitly grant permissions to admin accounts. it is already there
[10:27] <vyciook> phlak_user, u recieve my paste? :)
[10:27] <histo> !sudo | harsh343
[10:27] <phlak_user> vyciook, i asked to paste in pastebin not in my PM
[10:27] <histo> !gksu > harsh343
[10:28] <vyciook> !pastebinit   *-network
[10:28] <vyciook>        description: Ethernet interface
[10:28] <vyciook>        product: MCP77 Ethernet
[10:28] <vyciook>        vendor: nVidia Corporation
[10:28] <vyciook>        physical id: a
[10:28] <FloodBot1> vyciook: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:28] <vyciook>        bus info: pci@0000:00:0a.0
[10:28] <stimpie> harsh343 you can give someone admin rights via the user controlpanel
[10:30] <vyciook> sorry how tu use pastebin..
[10:31] <soreau> ! pastebin | vyciook
[10:31] <karaguellek> cvyciook: copy the text in the file and paste it into the site than press the paste at the bottom of the site
[10:32] <vyciook> http://paste.ubuntu.com/725145/
[10:32] <vyciook> :) thx
[10:33] <phlak_user> vyciook, that shows the wireless card as disabled. is the wifi light on?
[10:33] <GeorgeJ> Is there any way of programaticaly adding an application to systray-whitelist trough an API(I'm using python)
[10:33] <vyciook> like i said my wi-fi button dosnt work i cant enable it
[10:33] <histo> vyciook: don't you have a function button or switch that you can enable wireless/
[10:34] <vyciook> the switch dosent work so i want to change the switch to key combination
[10:34] <tyska> guys, i need really help im desperate!!!!
[10:34] <private_meta> Is there a list which kinds of file systems fdisk supports at the moment?
[10:34] <tyska> accidentally deleted files on my ubuntu
[10:34] <tyska> what is the option to recover them?
[10:34] <tyska> extundelete?
[10:35] <phlak_user> private_meta, once inside fdisk you can press L to see
[10:35] <tyska> please someone give me a hand
[10:35] <wisevoyager> tyska, try Testdisk to recover the files
[10:35] <tyska> Testdisk?
[10:35] <histo> vyciook: have an idea
[10:35] <vyciook> ?
[10:35] <tyska> apt-get install Testdisk?
[10:36] <tyska> It recover files from ext4 partition?
[10:36] <histo> vyciook: try sudo rfkill unblock all
[10:36] <histo> vyciook: see if it enables your card
[10:36] <Guest67945>      
[10:37] <vyciook> :) nice
[10:37] <vyciook> its enabled
[10:37] <harsh343> phlak_user, if already there so why it become impossible to me ??
[10:38] <vyciook> histo, and the wifi switch start to work :O
[10:38] <phlak_user> harsh343, i dont know what you are aiming to do and how you are going about it
[10:38] <vyciook> what this command done?
[10:38] <Ycarene> Is there a way to set the kernel so that after an amount of total time used the kernel shuts down or halts?
[10:38] <phlak_user> Ycarene, by that do you mean the PC itself?
[10:38] <stimpie> Ycarene, man shutdown
[10:38] <Ycarene> phlak_user - Yes
[10:39] <phlak_user> Ycarene, you can pass a time to the shutdown command like stimpie pointed out
[10:39] <Ycarene> phlak_user - so that, after say, two weeks of use the kernel will shut down or halt the system and subsequent reboots halt or shut down.
[10:40] <phlak_user> Ycarene, you mean it should never start again after 2 weeks?
[10:40] <Ycarene> phlak_user - right
[10:40] <phlak_user> Ycarene, why?
[10:40] <tyska> guys, how i do a umount in the root partition???
[10:40] <histo> vyciook: cool you should be good to go then
[10:40] <Ycarene> phlak_user - can it be done within the kernel without using a helper application?
[10:41] <Ycarene> tyska - you don't
[10:41] <histo> vyciook: man rfkill if you want to learn about it. I found it doing a google search for your problem and wireless chipset.
[10:41] <vyciook> ok thank you ;)
[10:41] <histo> tyska: are you trying to remount it?
[10:41] <private_meta> so, when using fdisk and using "l" to list the known file systems supported by fdisk, how can I show some sort of long name of these support file system names?
[10:41] <phlak_user> Ycarene, not sure i understand;
[10:41] <tyska> =( i need to recover my files that was deleted in the root partition
[10:41] <smittix> Does anyone know how to launch the "startup applications" app from the terminal
[10:42] <Ycarene> phlak_user - suppose I want to make a distribution that expires after a certain amount of time.
[10:42] <histo> tyska: hard poweroff the machine and boot a live cd
[10:42] <tyska> histo: great, i will do this
[10:42] <histo> tyska: I would just pull the plug to prevent the files from being over written
[10:42] <stimpie> Ycarene, then you should modify the kernel
[10:42] <neure> i have 10.04 and ntpdate 0.pool.ntp.org complains no server suitable for synchronization found
[10:42] <harsh343> phlak_user, see right now i m not able to copy and paste  my file from one location to another location
[10:42] <phlak_user> Ycarene, self-destruct?
[10:42] <tyska> histo: do you know if the extundelete is the best option to recover files from a ext4 partition?
[10:42] <harsh343> so how can i do that ?
[10:42] <neure> meanwhile host 0.pool.ntp.org finds 3 ip addresses
[10:42] <Ycarene> phlak_user - kinda
[10:43] <neure> what could be the problem?
[10:43] <phlak_user> harsh343, i remember you from before; you need to understand file and user permissions
[10:43] <histo> tyska: I would follow the factoids from ubottu
[10:43] <histo> !undelete > tyska
[10:43] <vyciook> histo, btw evry time when i restart my pc i have to enter the command?
[10:43] <harsh343> phlak_user, how can i give permissions ???
[10:44] <histo> vyciook: I don't know you'll have to try and see. If so you can write a script that will execute it for you on boot.
[10:44] <phlak_user> Ycarene, hmm; you could issue a timed format or some such command that destroys the OS ; I dont think its in the scope of this channel
[10:44] <phlak_user> !chown | harsh343
[10:45] <phlak_user> harsh343, the objective of this channel is to help you if you encounter issues *after* trying out something on your own
[10:45] <harsh343> phlak_user, ok thanks i m going to read now
[10:45] <phlak_user> harsh343, ok
[10:45] <vyciook> hm, and where do i need enter this that it can load on boot?
[10:46] <vyciook> srry for my bad eng :)
[10:47] <histo> vyciook: are you sure you'll need to? did you try rebooting?
[10:47] <neure> hello?
[10:47] <neure> http://codepaste.net/g1bmn8
[10:47] <phlak_user> GeorgeJ, take a look at this for your solution -> http://developer.gnome.org/gio/2.28/GSettings.html
[10:47] <vyciook> no, i just want to now in future if me need this :)
[10:47] <neure> why is ntpdate not working?-(
[10:47] <vyciook> to other scripts
[10:48] <GeorgeJ> phlak_user: Thanks, the indicator shows now, I just had an invalid icon name, no need to whitelist
[10:48] <phlak_user> GeorgeJ, ok
[10:48] <GeorgeJ> phlak_user: I'm looking into the default list of icons for Ubuntu 11.10 that I can use, or how to use custom items
[10:49] <Ycarene> phlak_user - I don't really want it to destroy anything, just shutdown and stop booting after a certain amount of time.
[10:49] <phlak_user> Ycarene, sorry cant help you there;
[10:50] <smittix> Does anyone know how to launch the "startup applications" app from the terminal
[10:51] <histo> smittix: gnome-session-properties
[10:51] <smittix> histo: Thankyou!
[10:53] <nnx> how do i get the id number for a program i want to kill ?
[10:53] <histo> nnx: with ps  or top
[10:54] <histo> nnx: ps aux | grep program name
[10:55] <nnx> ty
[10:56] <rnqlover> ку
[10:59] <catphish> it seems ubuntu 10.04 running mysql crashes with a divide by zero after 200 days :)
[10:59] <catphish> quite unpleasant :)
[11:00] <fanta01> when trying to play back a DVD under on new 11.10 install,  I can hear the sound, but the screen is black -  is there any additional packaga I need to install? I already have restricted extras and libdvdcss
[11:02] <phlak_user> fanta01, using which program? totem?
[11:02] <fanta01> yes
[11:02] <fanta01> same happens with VLS as well
[11:02] <fanta01> *VLC
[11:02] <_r00t_> can anyone help me diagnose why speedstep is not working ? The appropriate directories under /sys/devices/system/cpu/ are never set up no matter what kernel I use. On the same machine with same BIOS settings - windows 7 and windows 8 speedstep works as expected
[11:07] <kaboom12_yyt> hola amigos
[11:08] <phlak_user> !es| kaboom12_yyt
[11:08] <sorush20> one of the kernels that I login with give me a blank screen. Can anyone help?
[11:08] <japro> phlak_user, grüezi
[11:09] <phlak_user> fanta01, look inside the messages panel of VLC, it might complain about something
[11:09] <catphish> sorush20: you get a blank screen after logging in? on the console or gui?
[11:09] <fanta01> phlak_user: will take a look, thanks
[11:10] <sorush20> catphish: no not when I log in .. when I start and select the kernel to start ubuntu
[11:10] <catphish> oh, what kernel?
[11:10] <private_meta> http://imgur.com/8utZh <-- can someone tell me how to differentiate between the marked file systems when doing fdisk and listing supported systems?
[11:11] <sorush20> catphish: how do I bring up a list of kernels?
[11:11] <luist> just installed tor and /etc/init.d/tor start will give me: Not starting tor daemon (Disabled in /etc/default/tor)  which is a lie, cuz my /etc/default/tor has RUN_DAEMON="yes"    any help?
[11:11] <private_meta> sorush20: kernels that are in the repository?
[11:11] <catphish> sorush20: surely you have a list of kernels if you're choosing one?
[11:12] <sorush20> catphish: sorry I got to go now..
[11:13] <catphish> ok
[11:13] <phlak_user> luist, does that file also have Enable=yes
[11:14] <phlak_user> luist, you could paste the output of cat /etc/default/tor to paste.ubuntu.org
[11:15] <luist> phlak_user: ok
[11:16] <phlak_user> private_meta, look here -> http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/partitions/partition_types-1.html
[11:16] <private_meta> ahahaha
[11:16] <luist> phlak_user: http://pastie.org/2792872
[11:17] <private_meta> phlak_user: read that already, for example, doesn't help for the NTFS one
[11:17] <private_meta> phlak_user: the marked NTFS entry has two types and nowhere is it explained what the difference is
[11:17] <private_meta> phlak_user: the page doesn'T explain it ieither
[11:18] <phlak_user> luist, that file looks fine; are you doing sudo /etc/init.d/tor start ? or you could even do sudo service tor start
[11:19] <luist> phlak_user: yep both give the same message
[11:20] <phlak_user> private_meta,  sudo sfdisk -T gives you a better looking list
[11:20] <phlak_user> luist, do you have vidalia installed?
[11:20] <luist> phlak_user: heres an strace that might give a hint: http://pastie.org/2792889
[11:21] <luist> phlak_user: yes
[11:21] <private_meta> phlak_user: ah ok... thanks, that explains SOME of the entries, but not all of them
[11:21] <private_meta> phlak_user: but still thank you
[11:21] <luist> phlak_user: ops i used restart in the strace
[11:22] <luist> phlak_user: well it opens /etc/default/tor and /etc/default/tor.vidalia
[11:22] <biga> how do i cd to Downloads subdirectory in the home directory? cd Downloads doesnt do it?
[11:23] <phlak_user> luist, ah gotcha :) well vidalia doesnt let tor start as a daemon; so starting vidalia should suffice
[11:23] <phlak_user> luist, look here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1651263
[11:23] <jrib> biga: cd ~/Downloads
[11:23] <luist> phlak_user: ooooh and /etc/default/tor.vidalia has RUN_DAEMON=no
[11:23] <luist> phlak_user: dang it
[11:23] <luist> phlak_user: works now :P
[11:23] <jrib> biga: « cd Downloads » would only work if you are currently in home
[11:25] <biga> jrib: that did it. why is ~ needed?
[11:25] <raven_> lvm pvcreate: cannot setup pv: Can't open /dev/sdc exclusively.  Mounted filesystem?
[11:25] <jrib> biga: ~ is short for your home
[11:25] <jrib> biga: if your home directory is /home/biga then ~ means /home/biga
[11:26] <raven_> any suggestions?
[11:26] <biga> jrib: cool. thanks for the help!
[11:31] <raven_> lvm pvcreate: cannot setup pv: Can't open /dev/sdc exclusively.  Mounted filesystem?
[11:34] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:36] <raven_> lvm pvcreate: cannot setup pv: Can't open /dev/sdc exclusively.  Mounted filesystem?
[11:36] <White--> Anyone got an idea why chrome keeps aksing for beeing the default browser?
[11:39] <RubenHaan> hi i know that there is an easy way to share your internetconnection on ubuntu. (wifi) but i cant find it. i just want it without password. can someone tell me how to do this?
[11:39] <dr_willis> White--: perhaps some of your setting files are owned by root, so it cant set  the setting to tell it to not ask.. (just a guess)
[11:39] <dr_willis> !ics
[11:40] <White--> dr_willis, that makes sense, gotta check this, thanks
[11:43] <Promille> Is there any good _free_ dictionary for linux(pref not through wine)..?
[11:43] <BridgeCollapse> Open Oxford Dictionary, I think
[11:44] <Promille> BridgeCollapse: thanks i'll check it out
[11:44] <histo> White--: because it's not set as default
[11:45] <RubenHaan> i wonder why the option of sharing internet is so much more complex then keeping it for yourself. (i wonder if a bot can answer this to)
[11:45] <White--> just playing around with it, when setting it as the prefered browser in the settings chrome comes up
[11:45] <White--> when than selecting to have it as default browser, in the preffered apps, it is no longer set
[11:46] <kornez> hi! where should i install java on ubuntu?
[11:46] <kornez> which folder is better? does it make any difference?
[11:46] <karaguellek> Hey how can i make my own hotkeys in ubuntu 11.10
[11:47] <White--> kornez, easiest is probably to use Lffl repository
[11:47] <SwedeMike> kornez: how are you planning to install it? Use the repositories using dpkg or alike.
[11:47] <kornez> i want to have sun java
[11:48] <kornez> how to install - i don't know yet
[11:48] <kornez> trying to understand
[11:48] <kornez> i think i'd type ./javasource.bin   - is that good?
[11:48] <posix> no no kornez
[11:48] <posix> use the software center
[11:49] <CyborgSmurf> I need help with installing graphics driver 11.10
[11:49] <kornez> is has no sun java.....
[11:49] <kornez> :(
[11:49] <Promille> BridgeCollapse: Cant find any open version of OED =/
[11:49] <SwedeMike> kornez: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[11:49] <posix> just google it, yes
[11:50] <White--> kornez, read my message :) use the lffl repository
[11:50] <CyborgSmurf> BTW I have no drivers displayed in "Additional Drivers" section... Help please!
[11:50] <posix> cyborg download the driver from manufacturers page
[11:50] <posix> and istall it manually
[11:51] <histo> CyborgSmurf: what type of card?
[11:51] <posix> you will get the latest version
[11:51] <histo> !google | posix
[11:51] <CyborgSmurf> histo: nVidia i think
[11:51] <posix> google-fu, lol :)
[11:52] <histo> !nvidia | CyborgSmurf
[11:52] <posix> lspci
[11:52] <posix> @CyborgSmurf user "lspci" command to find out
[11:52] <histo> posix: also you can't get sun's java from the software center
[11:52] <raven_> lvm pvcreate: cannot setup pv: Can't open /dev/sdc exclusively.  Mounted filesystem?
[11:53] <CyborgSmurf> ubottu: thanks
[11:53] <posix> @histo not by default
[11:53] <histo> kornez: you have to get java from oracle it's no longer in the software center. Or you can use openjdk and icedtea
[11:53] <histo> posix: not by any legal means it shouldn't be
[11:53] <posix> @histo yes
[11:53] <histo> posix: oracle's restrictions on it.
[11:54] <posix> i hope this will change soon...
[11:54] <histo> posix: doubtfull
[11:54] <posix> well, i'm voting the pirate party
[11:54] <histo> I only suspect things will get much worse for linux users
[11:54] <CyborgSmurf> ubottu: Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[11:54] <posix> histo: i think it will be better
[11:55] <histo> CyborgSmurf: Is there any other graphics cards listed?
[11:55] <histo> CyborgSmurf: if not that is an intel card and your drivers are already installed
[11:55] <CyborgSmurf> histo: no none
[11:55] <histo> CyborgSmurf: then your drivers are good. they are already present
[11:57] <CyborgSmurf> histo: but when I view the system info, the driver is unknown...
[11:57] <histo> CyborgSmurf: what system info?
[11:58] <CyborgSmurf> histo: system settings...> system info
[11:59] <kornez> may i use manual installation from a bin file from java.com?
[11:59] <kornez> i don't understand a thing in all these repositories
[12:00] <raven_> lvm pvcreate: cannot setup pv: Can't open /dev/sdc exclusively.  Mounted filesystem?
[12:00] <histo> kornez: is there a reason you don't want to use openjdk?
[12:00] <kornez> i don't know if it's good
[12:01] <kornez> and my friend told me it's buggy also. he is 10 years linux user
[12:03] <BluesKaj> kornez, what are you going use java for, just ordinary webcontent or are you going to some creative stuff wiith it
[12:03] <BluesKaj> ?
[12:03] <kornez> i'd use eclipse
[12:04] <kornez> at least. don't know for more
[12:05] <neure> uh
[12:05] <neure> my nfs mount just blocks
[12:05] <neure> nfs server does not mount on boot, i need to manually execute "exportfs -a"
[12:05] <neure> but still i cant mount those :*
[12:05] <neure> :/
[12:06] <harsh343> alternate of Filezilla FTP server for ubantu ???
[12:06] <harsh343> 11.04
[12:06] <harsh343> ubuntu*
[12:07] <harsh343> sry 11.10 version
[12:09] <iceroot> harsh343: filezilla is not a server, its a client
[12:10] <harsh343> ok
[12:10] <iceroot> harsh343: so you need a client or a server?
[12:12] <harsh343> iceroot, yes but how i m newbie in ubuntu 11.10
[12:12] <harsh343> ???
[12:13] <iceroot> harsh343: hm, "yes" does not make sense to the question if you need a server or a client
[12:14] <harsh343> yes i need server or a client but how ?
[12:14] <iceroot> harsh343: or?
[12:14] <albech> anyone else experience problems with gnome shell recently. when going to the overview it does not render correctly
[12:14] <iceroot> harsh343: i dont get what you need exactly
[12:15] <albech> wish i could have stayed with the old gnome 2 :(
[12:15] <harsh343> i need an ftp server like filezilla for ubantu ???
[12:15] <histo> !ftp | harsh343
[12:15] <histo> !ftpd > harsh343
[12:16] <iceroot> harsh343: filezilla is NOT a server
[12:16] <iceroot> harsh343: if you want filezilla as a client use "sudo apt-get install filezilla"
[12:16] <histo> harsh343: you can use filezilla in ubuntu
[12:17] <harsh343> histo, no i can use filezilla on windows
[12:17] <harsh343> only
[12:18] <iceroot> harsh343: can you please write a complete sentecne what you want, what is not working and so on? we dont understand what you want
[12:18] <iceroot> harsh343: if english is not your language, there are channels with other languages too
[12:18] <deej1976> harsh343: start a terminal and run:
[12:18] <deej1976> sudo apt-get install filezilla
[12:19] <harsh343> deej1976, ok
[12:19] <jasonpft> hi i installed compiz how can i remove it and go back to unity and reset everything
[12:19] <harsh343> iceroot, i know english
[12:19] <jasonpft> hello?
[12:19] <keithclark> I don't seem to be able to format my usb memory stick with Disk Utility.  When I do it gives me an error message that the drive is busy.  No other programs are accessing the drive.  I have tried unmounting and mounting several times, any ideas?
[12:20] <harsh343> deej1976, now what next i installed ?
[12:20] <scarleo> How do I change the credentials for an "Online account"? I have changed password on my gmail and it says I need to login, however clicking Login does nothing, nor can I edit my password anywhere
[12:20] <jasonpft> hi i installed compiz how can i remove it and go back to unity and reset everything
[12:20] <jasonpft> ^
[12:20] <bekks> jasonpft: Please be patient - if someone knows the answer, he/she will tell it to you. And do not ask every two minutes please.
[12:20] <deej1976> in the terminal type filezilla
[12:20] <kornez> i've got a view directly in cmd, displaying licence agreement, i can pageup, pagedown, but what do i do to continue?
[12:20] <kornez> now i'm installing sun java from repo
[12:21] <azedmint> how can I get ride of the cam icon on gmail when using pidgin for gtlak?
[12:21] <harsh343> deej1976, okkkk
[12:21] <iceroot> kornez: there is no sun-java in the repos anymore
[12:21] <kornez> anybody knows which controls availiable there?
[12:21] <jasonpft> is unity the same as compiz?
[12:21] <Myrtti> jasonpft: no
[12:21] <crizzy> jasonpft: unity is a compiz plugin
[12:21] <jasonpft> does it require compiz?
[12:21] <jasonpft> ah
[12:21] <jasonpft> so removing compiz won't help
[12:21] <iceroot> crizzy: even for gnome3?
[12:22] <crizzy> iceroot: yes
[12:22] <jasonpft> I want to get back to my standard ubuntu unity desktop
[12:22] <iceroot> crizzy: i thought its just compiz on gnome2
[12:22] <jasonpft> as I bought the pc
[12:22] <jasonpft> can u help?
[12:22] <kornez> iceroot - well, i'm using one..... it's actually from that link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[12:22] <scarleo> Also, to what should I target my bug report?
[12:22] <crizzy> gnome2/3 doesn't have anything to do with compiz, really
[12:22] <crizzy> compiz is a window/composite manager
[12:22] <kornez> i've added a repo location sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner"
[12:22] <iceroot> kornez: hm, normally that is not allowed, dont know why it is still in the repos for lucid
[12:23] <jasonpft> ok so how do I get back to default unity desktop?
[12:23] <iceroot> !info sun-java6-jdk lucid
[12:23] <iceroot> ah !info is not searching partner-repo
[12:23] <crizzy> jasonpft: what you mean by 'standard unity desktop'?
[12:23] <kornez> well, i see this http://pastebin.com/AAS4V4nY
[12:24] <iceroot> kornez: space
[12:24] <iceroot> kornez: should enable the "OK"
[12:24] <kornez> pace not working
[12:24] <jasonpft> crizzy:  well when I installed ubuntu i had a standard unity desktop
[12:24] <jasonpft> then i fucked it up
[12:24] <jasonpft> how can I revert back?
[12:25] <kornez> ok is not clickable
[12:25] <crizzy> jasonpft: define 'fooked up'? :D
[12:25] <kornez> *space not working
[12:25] <jasonpft> crizzy:  Installed the compiz package and everything changed
[12:25] <jasonpft> :X
[12:25] <crizzy> jasonpft: compiz is installed by default? O_o unity _is_ a compiz plugin
[12:25] <jasonpft> well I managed to install compiz and then uninstall it
[12:26] <jasonpft> should I just purge compiz and unity and install unity?
[12:26] <jasonpft> :P
[12:26] <jasonpft> to start over?
[12:26] <kornez> tabs work
[12:26] <kornez> ))
[12:26] <crizzy> jasonpft: you probably managed to remove 'ubuntu-desktop' package too, so install that back, it should install all the required stuff back
[12:26] <jasonpft> crizzy:  ubuntu-desktop will over write whatever I have on there now?
[12:26] <jasonpft> and also use unity?
[12:26] <crizzy> it will install all default packages back
[12:27] <Loptr> I created a "mount --bind" symlink and now i cant delete it even as root
[12:27] <Loptr> Do someone know a way?
[12:27] <bekks> Loptr: "umount".
[12:27] <crizzy> jasonpft: unity --reset will also reset unity back to default settings
[12:27] <Leao> How do i set the default anchoring location of a program when i start it up ?
[12:27] <Leao> i.e: Gedit
[12:28] <harsh343> deej1976, ok now i am able to enter in filezilla, but not able to download any particular file
[12:28] <Loptr> bekks, it tells me that the device is budy
[12:28] <Loptr> and i don't use it for anything
[12:28] <bekks> Loptr: Then stop all processes using it. It doesnt lie :)
[12:28] <harsh343> they shown me failed to open "something" for writing
[12:28] <Loptr> I'll check for something in the background, thanks
[12:29] <pocata> I have a problem with ubuntu 11.10 I am with my laptop and when I close the laptop lid it sleeps and then open it again and press any button is included but it stays black screen anyone can help
[12:29] <kornez>  how can i check that java is installed?
[12:29] <harsh343> File transfer failed
[12:29] <icewaterman> how can i use gdm to autologin a user?
[12:31] <pocata> ??:)
[12:32] <jasonpft> hi what's the best way to ensure apt-get is clean and there are no failed installs lurking
[12:32] <jasonpft> or broken things
[12:32] <Guest21654> hi. I upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 and then install gnome-shell to get back to Gnome2. But GRID plugin on CCSM doesn't work anymore. Not catching key combo Ctrl-Alt-KB9. It does capture Ctrl-Alt-rarrow to switch workspaces. What's up?
[12:34] <harsh343> I am using filezilla ftp but not able to download any file, error display: file transfer failed
[12:34] <glebihan> Guest21654, 1) gnome-shell is not gnome2, 2) gnome-shell does not use compiz so ccsm is useless
[12:34] <aaa_> before upgrading to 11.10, i had 3 menus on the top of the screen (applications, locations, system) and a bar at the bottom that showed me what windows are open (similar to windows XP). now i have a sidebar on auto-hide instead. how can i get back (especially to the open windows bar)?
[12:35] <Guest21654> glebihan: how can I activate window positioning key combos then?
[12:35] <harsh343> what can i do for downloading????
[12:35] <Guest21654> harsh343: firefox
[12:36] <deej1976> harsh343: Can you ping the server you are trying to connect to?
[12:36] <rubla> Oneric has XDG "Desktop" folder not localized for some reason. I want to fix that for all users on the system, but changing /etc/skel doesn't work for new users. Where exactly in the code the untranslated "Desktop" dir is created?
[12:36] <pocata> I have a problem with ubuntu 11.10 I am with my laptop and when I close the laptop lid it sleeps and then open it again and press any button is included but it stays black screen anyone can help???
[12:36] <glebihan> Guest21654, no idea sorry (not sure there is an equivalent to that in gnome-shell)
[12:37] <Guest21654> drat, what a loss
[12:37] <Guest21654> pocata: did you move mouse?
[12:37] <rubla> If I run xdg-user-dirs-update, it's fixed, but again, not for users not created yet.
[12:38] <glebihan> Guest21654, you could install gnome-panel and gnome-fallback-session, that will give you a gnome2-like environment in which you'll be able to use compiz if you want
[12:38] <bobbaluba> does anyone have some experience with apple bluetooth mice/keyboards?
[12:38] <bobbaluba> i spent a lot of time just connecting them, and after i restarted, they seem unable too reconnect
[12:39] <kornez> what does 'headless' for jre mean?
[12:39] <pocata> Guest21654 : and do not want
[12:39] <Loptr> How to change the permissions of automount HDD on ubuntu, i tried with chmod but it doesnt work
[12:39] <Guest21654> glebihan: if that's the only way to get back to sane windows then I'm in. moving windows to sections of the screen was everything I needed. thanks, I try now
, headless usually means that the computer have no screen/keyboard/mouse attached. it should only be used on servers that you want to manage from another computer (mostly using web-interface)
[12:41] <Guest21654> pocata: closing lid was a problem with my mom's laptop. she had to shutdown and wait for it to shutdown before closing, otherwise it would stay and you'd have to open it again and click button (shuts down immediately) and close again. it was just that last step ubuntu got stuck on
[12:41] <aaa_> before upgrading to 11.10, i had 3 menus on the top of the screen (applications, locations, system) and a bar at the bottom that showed me what windows are open (similar to windows XP). now i have a sidebar on auto-hide instead. how can i get back (especially to the open windows bar)?
[12:42] <Guest21654> glebihan: E: Unable to locate package gnome-fallback-session
[12:42] <glebihan> aaa_, on unity I don't think you can. The way to switch between opened windows is to use the sidebar
[12:43] <glebihan> Guest21654, sorry it's gnome-session-fallback
[12:43] <qmanjr5> How do I find the mountpoint of something mounted with Archive Mounter?
[12:43] <Guest21654> aaa_: they thought everyone wants to keep everything they own in one bag - pens, bananas, tissues, CDs. It sucks, i know.
[12:44] <phlak_user> qmanjr5, type mount in a terminal
[12:44] <aaa_> so how do i use something else?
[12:44] <qmanjr5> phlak_user, it's not listed
[12:44] <Guest21654> aaa_: follow me! hahahaa
[12:44] <phlak_user> qmanjr5, did you mount an iso?
[12:45] <qmanjr5> Yeah
[12:45] <glebihan> aaa_, just as I said to Guest21654, you can install gnome-panel and gnome-session-fallback to get a gnome2-like environment. Otherwise you could try another desktop environment (such as kde, xfce, lxde...)
[12:45] <Guest21654> Gnome3 also has the same thing. Only reasonable option is Gnome2 in my opinion. Other interfaces like XFCD L... aren't mature enough. aaa_
[12:46] <aaa_> thanks guys
[12:46] <glebihan> Guest21654, keep in mind that it's not gnome2 anyway. It looks like gnome2 but it's still gnome3 and gnome-panel in gnome-session-fallback has less functionalities than in gnome2
[12:46] <phlak_user> qmanjr5, typically loop devices are mounted on /mnt
[12:47] <Guest21654> glebihan: right. ok, well it seems I already have it all in front of me. Not what I was hoping for.
[12:47] <dr_willis> gnome2 is dead.. time to move on.. :()
[12:48] <_peteris___> havent you noticed that ubuntu 11.10+gnome-session-fallback= some shortcuts doesnt work(like alt+f2 or alt+f1)
[12:49] <_peteris___> has anyone had this problem and hat it solved?
[12:49] <Guest21654> dr_willis: I'm open to change, but why Unity and Gnome got to be so dang similar. They both have that stupid thing on the left cramping my style
[12:50] <babble> (double post, sorry)
[12:50] <babble> hey all: I've been trying to make a bootable system backup with relinux (fork of remastersys, which had the *same* problem, I'll get to); either one would hang at the 'scanning cdrom' apt stage leaving the system unconfigured (dpkg and update-grub wouldn't run). I've worked around THAT by copying dists and pool from a livecd - apt runs as it needs to and everything works, *sort of* but Ubiquity now crashes at the END of the install. I have the output of its
[12:50] <babble> debug log.
[12:50] <qmanjr5> phlak_user, it's not.
[12:50] <qmanjr5> :(
[12:50] <FloodBot1> babble: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:50] <Guest21654> who's idea was that anyway? Does Apple use on of those?
[12:50] <babble> (sorry, Floodbot. heh)
[12:50] <scwizard> hello, if I wget http://wordpress.org/latest.tar.gz then the downloaded file is named "latest.tar.gz"
[12:51] <scwizard> however if I download the file in firefox the file is named wordpress-3.2.1.tar.gz
[12:51] <scwizard> what is the reason for this difference?
[12:51] <scwizard> and how can I get wget to behave more like firefox when it comes to naming downloads?
[12:51] <phlak_user> qmanjr5, look in your .gvfs folder
[12:51] <qmanjr5> Where's that? ~ or /
[12:52] <pbt> scwizard: read the man page
[12:52] <scwizard> I'm reading it again
[12:52] <Guest95894> Hi, is there a way to map backspace to alt + esc using xmodmap?
[12:52] <dr_willis> qmanjr5:  / would be the system 'root' directory.. users stuff is in their own home dir. ie: ~ or /home/username
[12:52] <bobbaluba> my bluetooth keyboard fails to reconnect after reboot, any suggestions? Q&A posts claiming this is a bug causing the pairing keys to not get saved and that the only solution is to build the bluetooth daemon from scratch. To me this seems rather drastic and too much of a hassle, any suggestions?
[12:52] <qmanjr5> Got it, thanks.
[12:53] <JadedJacob> When I put my laptop into standby, the screen doesn't come back on when I wake it, fans spin up but no screen
[12:53] <JadedJacob> It's an Asus F5R
[12:53] <scwizard> pbt: I can't find anything about this in the man page, it doesn't mean its not there though
[12:54] <bobbaluba> if i press buttons on the keyboard, the bluetooth applet shows my keyboard as connected for a brief moment, then disconnects after a short interval
[12:54] <LK-> Is it possible to make adduser not prompt for setting user info?
[12:55] <phlak_user> LK-, useradd
[12:55] <LK-> phlak_user: I'm aware of useradd. but I was asking about adduser
[12:55] <scwizard> LK-: the whole point of adduser is that it prompts for everything
[12:55] <scwizard> so no
[12:56] <phlak_user> LK-, either use it or dont
[12:56] <LK-> I see. Thought there may have been a conf option or something of the likes.
[12:56] <pbt> scwizard: download by wget and output to another name. It has option for that. u can also using perl to parse the url to get whatever file name u want :)
[12:56] <scwizard> no such thing in this case
[12:57] <scwizard> pbt: here's the thing, the url is http://wordpress.org/latest.tar.gz
[12:57] <bhavesh> Can I add icons to GNOME 3.2 shell like I did in GNOME 2?
[12:57] <cablop> hello ubunteers
[12:57] <scwizard> I have no ida how firefox is figuring out to name it wordpress-3.2.1.tar.gz
[12:57] <bhavesh> or shortcuts?
[12:57] <cablop> simple question
[12:57] <scwizard> so I wouldn't know how to go about writing a script to get it named wordpress-3.2.1.tar.gz
[12:57] <scwizard> clearly something more is going on than parsing the url
[12:58] <cablop> i plan to install ubuntu 64 bits on my desktop, any recommended size for the root partition?
[12:58] <histo> cablop: 10gi
[12:58] <histo> cablop: or smaller. It hold all your apps and system wide configs. Your /home is where all your user data is
[12:58] <cablop> histo: just 10! o.O
[12:58] <cablop> ?
[12:59] <Virus_jpg> hehe
[12:59] <bhavesh> cablop, I gave it 140GB.. just 50GB would be enough with all extra apps.
[12:59] <cablop> mmm, i don't know how to set up the things nowadays, lol
[12:59] <Virus_jpg> cablop hello
[12:59] <cablop> hello
[12:59] <cablop> all extra apps?
[13:00] <cablop> i just want normal usage, and development, maybe a little gaming
[13:00] <cablop> as for he swap, i know the rule of 2x ram or 2.5 ram is not exactly what we need now
[13:00] <Virus_jpg> i am broadcasting on Blogtv this chatroom right now
[13:00] <scwizard> cablop: it depends on how big your hd is
[13:00] <scwizard> I wouldn't worry about it, you can always resize the partion later
[13:00] <cwl> do you use lubuntu?
[13:00] <cablop> but willing to go for 1.5x~2x size of ram for the swap
[13:00] <histo> Virus_jpg: what is blogtv?
[13:01] <bhavesh> cablop, I installed a lot of "Extra apps" and still just 31GB got used
[13:01] <cablop> lol
[13:01] <cablop> maybe i'll give it just 50 GB
[13:01] <bhavesh> use zram if u wanna use your swap efficiently
[13:01] <scwizard> you can always resize it later
[13:01] <bhavesh> yes u can
[13:01] <cablop> and no resize, because i am going to run it on top of a LUKS encryption
[13:01] <Virus_jpg> blogtv.com/analyzingfunny. I am using Ubuntu with Webcamstudio to broadcast this chat and my desktop
[13:01] <scwizard> cablop: resizing shoudl still be theoreticalyl possible, but yeah lol
[13:01] <cablop> bhavesh: zram? what is that?
[13:01] <scwizard> I guess not
[13:02] <bhavesh> cablop, http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=webupd8%20zram&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.webupd8.org%2F2011%2F10%2Fincreased-performance-in-linux-with.html&ei=2u2vTr3fMJHRrQfu98Bt&usg=AFQjCNGg9L0A9J1uBp936ALpu3sU0ywl2Q&sig2=5qnbBXFHJBTTcMsldDBJEA
[13:02] <cablop> scwizard: yes, i dfound some guides so long to resize encrypted partitions
[13:02] <bhavesh> that was a long url.. here's a short one: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/increased-performance-in-linux-with.html
[13:02] <buharin> who knows about wireless on macbook g4? can I work with it?
[13:03] <cablop> i was willing to use lvm on top of luks, but.... but i am afraid the encruption thing is still using just one thread per encrypted block device
[13:04] <JadedJacob> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/721795
[13:04] <amisotis> /dns mail.softvision.ro
[13:04] <Virus_jpg> thats a nice ram
[13:04] <scwizard> pbt: I found the answer https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=239351
[13:05] <Virus_jpg> i am starting to like this room, it is great to see thing I have NO idea what they are, I am just a user
[13:05] <amisotis> HELO
[13:05] <amisotis> So nerds
[13:05] <dp> is there a way to properly change from python2.7 to python2.6?
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[13:05] <FloodBot1> amisotis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:05] <cablop> lol amisotis xD
[13:06] <zsolt> hi there.got a serious problem.my debian installation is on a logical partition.I made a new partition with gparted.now my os is useless.the only soultion was to boot with recovery and to remount my root fs
[13:06] <glebihan> dp, you can install both versions at the same time
[13:06] <dp> glebihan: right, but the default points to 2.7
[13:06] <pbt> scwizard: ah ha. thats it.
[13:06] <dp> is there a way to switch that to 2.6?
[13:07] <dp> because gcalcli is broken against 2.7
[13:07] <cablop> anyone using luks here?
[13:07] <bekks> cablop: Feel free to just ask.
[13:08] <cablop> i did, and no answer bekks
[13:08] <iceroot> cablop: just ask the real question
[13:08] <glebihan> dp, you can just change the symlink (/usr/bin/python is a symlink to /usr/bin/python2.7)
[13:08] <amisotis> What's the best VRML software?  I need it to view http://www.astronautica.com/owds.html
[13:08] <afeijo> hi guys, I need to install a email server, with pop3, imap and smtp. Shall I use postfix + dovecot + mysql ?
[13:09] <cablop> i asked if is luks still not multiprocess or multithread ?
[13:09] <dp> glebihan: but that won't update python-dbg and python-dbg-config; hence my question
[13:09] <ortsvorsteher> amisotis, please do not go unasked in private channel
[13:09] <ortsvorsteher> !pm | amisotis
[13:09] <Gentoo64> he spammed everyone
[13:09] <Gentoo64> kick him
[13:09] <vytenis> how to turn on vga on my laptop in ubuntu? :/
[13:09] <iceroot> cablop: i guess that king of question is better in #luks (or what there channel is)
[13:09] <cablop> hmmm
[13:09] <vytenis> keyboard combination dosent work
[13:10] <raptor67682> hello
[13:10] <raptor67682> how to wget something and let wget check the size of the file on ftp and does download if  different?
[13:10] <zsolt> how is it possible to fix this problem?I need to use my rootfs normally
[13:10] <vytenis> histo, u here?
[13:11] <glebihan> dp, you'll have to install python2.6-dbg
[13:13] <iceroot> raptor67682: are there md5 files for the file?
[13:13] <dp> glebihan: not quite my point ;) in gentoo, I can 'eselect python set python2', I didn't know if there was a built-in way to do that in ubuntu
[13:14] <raptor67682> iceroot> nope. no md5
[13:14] <zsolt> the fstab file is ok,but don't know why is it read only
[13:14] <digitalfiz> hey guys I have a remote VM I need to resize the partitions on how can I do this?
[13:14] <digitalfiz> I don't have access to console but I had the IT department make the drive larger in VMWare
[13:14] <glebihan> dp, not that I know of. But replacing the symlink will do the exact same thing
[13:14] <digitalfiz> they refuse to work on linux so I have to resize it myself
[13:15] <dp> ok, apparently, I was wrong. gcalcli against 2.6 *or* 2.7 is broken
[13:16] <histo> digitalfiz: you'd have to unmount the partitions and grow them somehow
[13:16] <digitalfiz> histo, I can't do that from SSH though can I?
[13:16] <guntbert> digitalfiz: did you employ LVM?
[13:16] <digitalfiz> no I didn't do LVM
[13:16] <iceroot> raptor67682: best would be md5 the file on the server, md5 the file localy, check if different then download
[13:16] <histo> digitalfiz: hrm....
[13:16] <raptor67682> I was thinking either : wget -nc or wget -N, but it seems that it does not work
[13:16] <amisotis> What makes people use Ubuntu, I mean, why use something that's basically a ripoff of Debian sid
[13:16] <dp> but it works under debian python
[13:17] <iceroot> raptor67682: files can have the same size but may be different
[13:17] <amisotis> just because some rich coon gives discs through the mail for free
[13:17] <raptor67682> iceroot> I have no chances to get md5 :(
[13:17] <compdoc> amisotis, its much better than debian
[13:17] <iceroot> amisotis: you have a support-question?
[13:17] <histo> digitalfiz: can you boot the vm to a live cd?
[13:17] <digitalfiz> histo, I don't access to console
[13:17] <amisotis> /dns user-31-175-45-178.play-internet.pl
[13:17] <iceroot> amisotis: and remeber, sid is changing every day, ubuntu not
[13:17] <babble> amisotis: how can an open source project that encourages forking have any derivative be a 'ripoff?'
[13:17] <Ixan> hi, i'm having an issue installing from the alternate cd. using an usb-cdrom and it boots fine. later in the installer though, it stops saying it cant detect the cdrom. anyone know a fix?
[13:18] <szal> amisotis: that is not a support question, please continue w/ such topics in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:18] <histo> amisotis: ubuntu is not debian
[13:18] <pbt> :o
[13:18] <histo> digitalfiz: how'd you install the distro on the vm?
[13:18] <amisotis> histo: Yes it is.  It uses aptitude, it has packages that end in .deb, and it works almost exactly like debian
[13:18] <amisotis> the only difference is that there is a different configuartion utility and that there are more packages
[13:19] <digitalfiz> histo I built it locally and sent the vm files to my support department and they booted it
[13:19] <amisotis> configuration utility
[13:19] <guntbert> amisotis: stop that please
[13:19] <amisotis> Ubuntu's debian
[13:19] <histo> !troll | amisotis
[13:19] <p5yx> is the netbook remix not available anymore?
[13:19] <Myrtti> amisotis: take the discussion elsewhere, please.
[13:20] <histo> !unr | p5yx
[13:20] <vytenis> how to turn on vga ?
[13:20] <histo> digitalfiz: without booting the vm to a live cd or something I can't think of a way to do it. Perhaps someone else can.
[13:21] <histo> digitalfiz: what partitions are you planningon resizing?
[13:21] <digitalfiz> histo its ext3
[13:22] <digitalfiz> histo it was originally a 10gb partition I want to make 40gb
[13:22] <szal> vytenis: define 'turn on vga'
[13:22] <histo> digitalfiz: is everything on one / partition?
[13:22] <vytenis> i want to see my screen trought pc
[13:22] <digitalfiz> histo yes
[13:23] <someone-noone> Hello i
[13:23] <vytenis> when i connect cable nothing happneds
[13:23] <vytenis> and keyboard combination dosent work
[13:24] <vytenis> szal, any ideas? :/
[13:24] <someone-noone> Hello. i'm having a trouble using flash on latest ubuntu. I can't click "Allow" button in Security settings in any browser. Does anybody know how to solve such problem?
[13:25] <someone-noone> Or probably someone will tell me better channel to ask such question
[13:25] <SrPx> so im trying to compile something. this thing has several dependencies. the package manage versions are older. so i have to downoad every dependency and compile. but they have even more dependencies and this goes on. a
[13:25] <p5yx> ubottu: thx man
[13:25] <SrPx> is there a fastest way of installing those?
[13:25] <bekks> SrPx: No.
[13:26] <scarleo> someone-noone: I have the same, do you get the Flash settings when pressing windows button and searching for Flash? If so then set that site you're having trouble with to allow
[13:26] <histo> digitalfiz: you could create a seperate partition with the freespace then mount that to part of the filesystem.
[13:26] <bekks> SrPx: Not if the packages/version you need are not available by the repos.
[13:26] <glebihan> SrPx, is the package you're trying to compile in the repositories ?
[13:27] <dp> can anyone confirm that gcalcli on oneiric is broken, no matter python 2.6 or 2.7?
[13:27] <histo> digitalfiz: can't you have them boot the vm to an iso and then go fromthere?
[13:27] <albert__> Hey, can anybody link me a guide for how to setup an ati graphics card in the new ubuntu (11.10). i really don't get anything in google
[13:27] <someone-noone> scarleo: i have webpage on localhost. I have inserted "local", "/home/user/pathtohtml", "*", "/home/user/pathtohtml/test.html" into Global settings and it didn't help :(
[13:27] <histo> !ati | albert__
[13:27] <cgrs> plz someone knows how to start ubuntu without unity, and use gnome instead?
[13:28] <chroot> is ubuntu-10.04.3-server-amd64.iso can work on intel 64 machine
[13:28] <albert__> kek, ty
[13:28] <histo> chroot: yes
[13:28] <histo> chroot: that's what it's for 64bit cpus
[13:28] <SrPx> pardon what are repositories (you mean the ubuntu packages)? im trying to compile gedit 3+ (because the version 2.3, thats on ubuntu package manager. doesnt allow certain plugin)
[13:28] <glebihan> cgrs, which version of ubuntu are you running ?
[13:28] <chroot> histo, but it's amd64?
[13:28] <histo> SrPx: yes repositories hold the packages for ubuntu
[13:28] <chroot> my cpu is intel
[13:28] <cgrs> glebihan 11.10
[13:29] <lloyd> Multi-meida question on 10.04-LTS:  How can get DVD player to play a DVD.  Totem comes up but says it needs to search for "suitable" plugin, (it says that the required software to play the file is not installed).
[13:29] <histo> chroot: it's not for just amd cpus its for 64bit cpus
[13:29] <bekks> SrPx: Which ubuntu version do you have? Oneiric ships with gedit 3.2.0
[13:29] <histo> !amd64 | chroot
[13:29] <cgrs> ive got oneiric (11.10)
[13:29] <chroot> how about ubuntu-10.04.3-server-x86_64.iso
[13:29] <scarleo> someone-noone: Ok...? So did you do what I suggested? Or try visit this page to change your settings: http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager03.html
[13:29] <SrPx> im not sure whats the version, i just downloaded the one available on the site a few weeks ago. how can i know?
[13:30] <histo> chroot: yes that's the intel one
[13:30] <kacung> !ebox
[13:30] <bekks> SrPx: By looking it up? :)
[13:30] <glebihan> cgrs, in that case, there isn't gnome2 anymore. If you don't like unity, you can try gnome-shell or another desktop environment (kde, xfce, lxde...)
[13:30] <SrPx> ..
[13:30] <bekks> SrPx: Open up a terminal and type: lsb_release -r
[13:30] <cgrs> ok, then i'll return to 10.04, thanx !
[13:30] <chroot> oh, but ubuntu-10.04.3-server-x86_64.iso has a desktop when i installed it ?
[13:30] <SrPx> 11.04
[13:31] <lloyd> MSG TO SELF: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:31] <histo> chroot: no it shouldn't
[13:31] <someone-noone> scarleo: i've already added path to directory with htmls and swfs at webpage you've sent to me. But it didn't help
[13:31] <chroot> ubuntu server dosen't have desktop, right?
[13:31] <histo> chroot: right
[13:31] <cgrs> but, unity and gnome3 are the same???
[13:31] <SrPx> :/
[13:31] <histo> cgrs: no
[13:31] <Tricen> Q: Have a duel head Radeon (DVI and VGA).  Got a stretched desktop working great.  However, the the monitor attached to the DVI head (converted into a VGA with an adaptor) randomly blinks on and off and sometimes goes off for up to 15 seconds before coming back on.  Any ideas?
[13:31] <chroot> histo, ok, i got it, thanks.
[13:31] <histo> cgrs: you can switch to classic mode
[13:31] <cgrs> whats the difference???
[13:31] <SrPx> seems like im not getting gedit 3 :/
[13:32] <bindi> Tricen: the monitor is probably dying
[13:32] <bekks> SrPx: You could update your entire ubuntu....
[13:32] <cgrs> oh, i know, but how can i return to gnome2 in 11.10??
[13:32] <histo> !notunity | cgrs
[13:32] <bindi> Tricen: unless you can confirm it working in another system
[13:32] <cgrs> ok!!!
[13:32] <dp> can anyone confirm that gcalcli on oneiric is broken, no matter python 2.6 or 2.7?
[13:32] <cgrs> thanx
[13:32] <glebihan> cgrs, you can't
[13:32] <Tricen> When I switch monitors to the other head, the problem switches monitors
[13:32] <cgrs> ok
[13:32] <Tricen> It can't be that
[13:32] <bindi> Tricen: faulty VGA cable?
[13:33] <SrPx> bekks: :/
[13:33] <raptor67682> bekks>     lsb_release -a | grep Codename | awk ' { print $2 } ' | tail -n 1
[13:33] <histo> Tricen: power management issue?
[13:33] <digitalfiz> histo I am going to walk the IT department through a live cd/gparted solution on a few test servers then go with the live server
[13:33] <Tricen> bindi: hadn't considered that, I'll try that.  Thanks
[13:33] <Tricen> histo: how so?
[13:33] <histo> Tricen: is it constantly blinking or just after some period of time?
[13:34] <rj_> hi
[13:34] <Tricen> histo: randomly after some time
[13:34] <rj_> hw aaare pyyu?
[13:34] <histo> Tricen: i'd first look at the vga cable and or the dvi/vga adapter as maybe being the issue first.
[13:34] <cgrs> gnome 3 "gnome-shell" is like gnome2 ui??
[13:34] <bekks> cgrs: No.
[13:35] <histo> Tricen: if it happens after say 5min of inactivity everytime then i'd look at power management maybe blanking the monitor then bringing it back etc...
[13:35] <cgrs> oh, then its like unity 2d, right?
[13:35] <histo> cgrs: no you wan the classic look then
[13:35] <histo> !classic | cgrs
[13:35] <Tricen> histo:  I'll look into that.  thanks
[13:35] <histo> cgrs: which I believe in 11.10 to enable classic mode you have to go to preferences and login manager then enable classic as the session.
[13:36] <SrPx> bekks: i almost managed to compile the version 3.0.3, i could install every dependency using the package manager, but when i try to build i get the error *** No rule to make target `Gedit-3.0.typelib'. Do you have an idea what that could be?
[13:36] <histo> cgrs: that will make it look like the previous version of ubuntu at the top with applications > sytem > etc...
[13:36] <cgrs> but in my version it shows only "Unity" and "Unity 2d"
[13:37] <cgrs> there is no classic mode :(
[13:37] <glebihan> cgrs, gnome-shell is very different from both gnome2 and unity. The only way to get a gnome2-like interface on oneiric is to use gnome-panel+gnome-session-fallback (but it won't have as many functionalities as gnome-panel in gnome2 and is only intended as a fallback)
[13:37] <cgrs> yes, then i use ubuntu 11.04 with Classic mode??
[13:38] <histo> cgrs: blogtv.com/analyzingfunny
[13:38] <lloyd> there's always xfce
[13:38] <histo> cgrs: ignore that wrong link hold up
[13:38] <cgrs> ok
[13:38] <histo> cgrs: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/08/return-to-ubuntu-classic-desktop-in-ubuntu-11-10/
[13:38] <jiltdil> suppose i have Data mounted under media, to go to Data i use   amit@amit:~$cd /media/Data after this it looks like  amit@amit:/media/Data$     But i want to look it like amit@amit Data$     as like in fedora . Any idea how to do that?
[13:38] <glebihan> cgrs, you can. But keep in mind that gnome2 is heading to the end of its life
[13:38] <cgrs> thanx i'll take a look
[13:39] <chroot> histo, can you give me some advice?
[13:39] <cgrs> OMG!!!! thanx so much!
[13:39] <histo> chroot: on what?
[13:40] <sjihs> Is there a way to install the glider gtk theme?
[13:40] <chroot> i got a machine with 8GB mem and intel xen cpu,
[13:40] <chroot> and i want to install ubuntu server on it , which one should i install . the version?
[13:41] <Mafeki> can someone tell me how to configure your ipod as a flash drive for FAT32?
[13:41] <lloyd> chroot: 10.04-LTS
[13:41] <jiltdil> Any idea guys?
[13:41] <Gentoo64> chroot, any
[13:41] <histo> chroot: I would use 10.04LTS for a server
[13:41] <histo> chroot: LTS is long term support. Then next LTS is due out next April
[13:42] <histo> chroot: however 10.04 will be supported for sometime.
[13:42] <cbfarrand> want to try a printing question?
[13:42] <pbt> !ask
[13:42] <lloyd> chroot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[13:42] <chroot> but 10.04LTS is 32 bit, it can't handle 8GB mem, right?
[13:43] <lloyd> chroot: Sure it can
[13:43] <histo> chroot: no you can install 64bit 10.04LTS server
[13:43] <cbfarrand> did the upgrade to the latest version, now printer spitting out blank pages?
[13:43] <histo> lloyd: 32bit can not handle 8gig of ram
[13:43] <cbfarrand> sorry
[13:43] <chroot> histo, so 64bit is amd64 , that is for AMD cpu, not intel?
[13:43] <SrPx> im trying to compile gedit 3.0.3, but when i try to build, at the end i get the error *** No rule to make target `Gedit-3.0.typelib'. what that could be?
[13:43] <iceroot> chroot: amd and intel
[13:43] <histo> chroot: on the download page just select 10.04LTS server 64bit
[13:44] <ikonia> SrPx: it's not correctly configured
[13:44] <lloyd> histo: Well, I guess any more than 4G will be a waste.  Right?
[13:44] <cgrs> bye! plz follow me: twitter.com/63677273
[13:44] <deej1976> linux-generic-pae will allow 32-bit to use more memory
[13:44] <ikonia> SrPx: is there a reason you are trying to build it
[13:44] <albert__> hey, how do i change my used graphics driver? i seem to have installed all the necessary ati stuff, but catalyst tells me, the driver isn't there and/or used
[13:44] <ikonia> cgrs: please don't spam/advertise in this channel. Clear ?
[13:44] <histo> deej1976: no it won't
[13:44] <chroot> ok, thank you
[13:44] <deej1976> hmmm
[13:44] <histo> chroot: use 64 bit
[13:44] <chroot> thank you all guys
[13:44] <karaguellek> how can install sun java on my ubuntu 11.10??????????
[13:44] <histo> deej1976: anything over 4gigs won't be addressed in 32bit
[13:44] <SrPx> yes i need gedit 3+ but on software manager the latest version is 2.3
[13:45] <histo> karaguellek: you can use openjdk
[13:45] <histo> karaguellek: if you want sun's version then you have to get it from oracle
[13:45] <SrPx> how can i configure it properly? i ran ./configure and seemed like everything went allright
[13:45] <karaguellek> hista: i want to get minecraft to work and everybody says i need sun java
[13:45] <ahong> hi,everyone!
[13:45] <myka_l> hi
[13:45] <lloyd> histo: ... unless you install Physical Address Extension (PAE) kernel.
[13:45] <histo> SrPx: you may have to ask the gedit people as your question isn't related to ubuntu
[13:45] <albert__> hey, how do i change my used graphics driver? i seem to have installed all the necessary ati stuff, but catalyst tells me, the driver isn't there and/or used
[13:46] <Gentoo64> lloyd, afaik that gives you 4gb
[13:46] <ikonia> PAE will allow to over 16GB
[13:46] <deej1976> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-4gb-ram-limitation-solution/
[13:46] <cbfarrand> upgraded to 11.10, now my printer is spitting out blank pages?
[13:46] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[13:46] <ikonia> infact over 32GB
[13:46] <histo> lloyd: deej1976 sry didn't see pae
[13:46] <iceroot> Gentoo64: pae can handle more then 4gb but only ~1gb for earch process
[13:46] <lloyd> histo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[13:46] <SrPx> histo: where i can find gedit people?
[13:46] <karaguellek> histo: which one there is the sun java=?
[13:46] <deej1976> no probs
[13:46] <karaguellek> histo : http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
[13:46] <Gentoo64> doubt anyone would use pae though
[13:47] <histo> karaguellek: I don't know
[13:47] <lloyd> chroot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[13:47] <iceroot> histo: but if possible, reinstall with amd64 instead of installing pae-kernel
[13:47] <undefined_infini> Hello everyone! I am planning to set up a home file server. Is it ok to use core i5 processor for my server? If not what is your recommended processor.
[13:47] <BluesKaj> albert__, do your "desktop effects" work?
[13:47] <iceroot> undefined_infini: overkill
[13:47] <iceroot> undefined_infini: intel atom is enough
[13:47] <histo> iceroot: i'm not the one with the issue
[13:47] <Gentoo64> undefined_infini, any cpu
[13:47] <SrPx> ikonia: yes i need gedit 3+ but on software manager the latest version is 2.3. how can i configure it properly? i ran ./configure and seemed like everything went allright
[13:47] <chroot> lloyd, ok , i know that , with it os will search more address space
[13:47] <iceroot> histo: sorry
[13:48] <undefined_infini> iceroot, woah why?
[13:48] <histo> chroot: just use 64bit instead of 32bit trust me
[13:48] <Pici> SrPx: Your're probably not going to be able to get gedit 3.x in anything before 11.10, as it likely requires gnome3 things.
[13:48] <ikonia> SrPx: did you read the compile instructions and dependencies
[13:48] <histo> chroot: there is absolutely no reason to use 32bit server
[13:48] <iceroot> undefined_infini: because a file-server doesnt need a cou like i5
[13:48] <windparadise> hello, pls can someone tell me what does this command do ? getent passwd. any use >= UID 1000
[13:48] <Gentoo64> undefined_infini, you wont need a powerful cpu for just getting files
[13:48] <ikonia> SrPx: why do you "need" gedit3
[13:48] <iceroot> undefined_infini: wasted ressources
[13:48] <cbfarrand> did the update to 11.10, now printer printing blank pages?
[13:48] <lapion> In a virtualbox, I just tried to convert my home fs to btrfs, only to find out there is no tool to change the uuid of btrfs-fses
[13:48] <ikonia> windparadise: nothing of any value
[13:48] <SrPx> ikonia: because source browser plugin is only compatible for 3.0.0+
[13:48] <chroot> histo, lloyd just remind there is pae , but i will use 64bit too. for this will be faster
[13:48] <windparadise> ok,I want to list number of users in my account
[13:49] <windparadise> I mean list users
[13:49] <Gentoo64> chroot, just use 64 bit
[13:49] <windparadise> apart from root,
[13:49] <scottj> best service for seeing pictures people have taken at a specific location (or range) with a better UI than google maps photos?
[13:49] <windparadise> how do i check?
[13:49] <undefined_infini> iceroot & Gentoo64, ah i see.. so how much RAM is recommended for my server?
[13:49] <iceroot> scottj: #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:49] <Gentoo64> undefined_infini, anything
[13:49] <iceroot> undefined_infini: depending what you want to do
[13:49] <SrPx> ikonia: yes they just tell me to type ./configure, make and make install..
[13:49] <Gentoo64> undefined_infini, for stuff like that you can use like 50mb ram if the os can boot it
[13:50] <ikonia> SrPx: pastebin the output of ./configure
[13:50] <Gentoo64> most people use junk boxes for that
[13:50] <cbfarrand> did the upgrade to 11.10, now printing blank sheets?
[13:50] <_r00t_> lapion: why do yo need btrfs ?
[13:51] <lapion> does anyone know which tool can be used to change uuid of btrfs
[13:51] <histo> windparadise: check your /etc/passwd file
[13:51] <iceroot> undefined_infini: i am running a fileserver with xmbc, sabnzbplusd, lxde and i need 230mb (most is eaten by xbmc) so i guess 128mb is a very very igh value for something you want to do
[13:51] <Gentoo64> lapion, i wouldnt use btfs for important data btw
[13:51] <lapion> _r00t_, it's for experimenting..
[13:51] <Gentoo64> its very dodgy
[13:51] <iceroot> undefined_infini: cpu is the first intel atom
[13:51] <undefined_infini> Gentoo64, maybe 1gb will do.. it is hard to find 50mb nowadays
[13:51]  * _r00t_ agrees with Gentoo64 
[13:51] <lapion> it's in a virtuaslbox on top of ubuntu
[13:51] <Gentoo64> undefined_infini, yeah.. just saying i wouldnt go spending out for it
[13:52] <cbfarrand> updated to 11.10 now printing blank sheets?
[13:52] <histo> undefined_infini: what do you plan on doing with the server?
[13:52] <Loptr> I added my ntfs partition to fstab but on restart ubuntu itself add them to another location and use fuseblk
[13:52] <undefined_infini> histo, just a file server :)
[13:52] <asrskz> What channel is best for getting help with Unity
[13:52] <lloyd> histo: windparadise Maybe a little simplier to look at /home/
[13:52] <Loptr> it just ignores my settings in the fstab
[13:52] <histo> undefined_infini: minimal ram then
[13:52] <lapion> since in place conversion is possible I want to try it, however if the uuid cannot be changed this cannot be done on a "working boot"
[13:52] <SrPx> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/rKPkxBKk
[13:52] <Gentoo64> asrskz, here
[13:52] <Gentoo64> probably
[13:53] <asrskz> thanks
[13:53] <histo> lloyd: true lol
[13:53] <_r00t_> lol ... probably we all hate unity in here
[13:53] <lloyd> _r00t_: DOn't count on it.
[13:53] <undefined_infini> histo, Gentoo64 & iceroot, thanks for the replies
[13:53] <lapion> Gentoo64, it's in a virtuaslbox on top of ubuntu
[13:53] <ikonia> SrPx: looks pretty reasonable, did it create a makefile
[13:53] <lapion> lloyd, exception to the r00le
[13:54] <cbfarrand> printing blank pages after 11.10 update?
[13:54] <asrskz> It is taking me a lot longer to do the things I used to do.  Maybe it is just a new paradigm.
[13:54] <lloyd> cbfarrand: What printer?
[13:54] <cbfarrand> Brother laser
[13:54] <undefined_infini> histo, Gentoo64 & iceroot, I'll go for atom with 1gb ram :)
[13:54] <lloyd> cbfarrand: What model?
[13:54] <SrPx> ikonia: this is the output http://pastebin.com/H3wb4c3Y
[13:54] <lloyd> cbfarrand: Check toner.
[13:54] <cbfarrand> HL-5340D, was working fine with previous version
[13:55] <ikonia> SrPx: ok - so the key there is not the last lime
[13:55] <_r00t_> undefined_infini: I run xbmc on a dual core SU2300 / ION and it flys
[13:55] <ikonia> line
[13:55] <asrskz> For instance I ssh to several computers in my home network.  I used to have a separate launcher on the top panel for each.  Each has it's own profile the color is different on each so when I see the terminal I know which computer I am on.
[13:55] <asrskz> How do I do that in Unity.
[13:55] <SrPx> ikonia: ?
[13:55] <undefined_infini> _r00t_, wow cool!
[13:55] <cbfarrand> lloyd: printer working fine with other computers
[13:56] <ikonia> SrPx: the makefile is there and has valid entries, but because something is failing to build (typlib plugin by the looks of it) it's complaining about the target defined in the makefile, or lack of it
[13:56] <windparadise> how do I add a new user to my system?
[13:56] <windparadise> using command line
[13:56] <bekks> windparadise: By using "adduser", for instance.
[13:56] <ikonia> SrPx: it probably wasn't created at configure due to a lack of typelib support
[13:56] <_r00t_> undefined_infini: Here she is http://goo.gl/AEAfR
[13:56] <lloyd> cbfarrand: localhost:631  and check what driver it is using.
[13:56] <cgrs> i have a wireless pcmcia card (Linksys Wireless-G Notebook Adapter WPC54G V3) which oneiric (11.10) doesn't recognize, even with windows drivers (ndiswrapper)! how can i connect internet with this s**t?? plz help
[13:57] <SrPx> ikonia: lack of typelib support? so can i fix this?
[13:57] <ikonia> cgrs: tone down the language
[13:57] <lloyd> cbfarrand: localhost:631  Administration -> Modify printer
[13:57] <ikonia> SrPx: check the configure options, however I suspect it's a bug with the automake process
[13:57] <cgrs> ok sorry
[13:57] <cablop> zram, sounds prettty interesting
[13:57] <lloyd> cbfarrand: Take Firefox to: localhost:631    Administration -> Modify printer
[13:57] <ikonia> cgrs: also you did a hit and run spam of your twitter account earlier - please do not do that again, clear ?
[13:58] <bindi> are there any graphical traceroute programs for ubuntu?
[13:58] <ikonia> bindi: why do you want something graphical
[13:58] <ikonia> bindi: all it does is display a list of IP's in the route
[13:58] <SrPx> ikonia: so theres nothing i can do? its weird for it to be a bug as its happening with all 3.0.x versions
[13:58] <bindi> ikonia: i mean uh
[13:58] <bindi> ikonia: geographical :p
[13:58] <ikonia> SrPx: not really seeing as 3.0 is development
[13:58] <josephseraos> I have a problem in Ubuntu 11.10, in Nautilus when I type to search a file or a directory it doesn't work correctly.
[13:58] <undefined_infini> _r00t_, cute setup lol..
[13:58] <lloyd> bindi: traceroute can run in a GUI terminal  :)
[13:58] <bindi> lloyd: yeah I meant geographical
[13:58] <_r00t_> undefined_infini: thanks
[13:59] <ikonia> SrPx: I find it hard to believe an application you want to use depeds on a development (version 3) build of gedit
[13:59]  * _r00t_ brb
[13:59] <cgrs> ok
[13:59] <cgrs> i have a wireless pcmcia card (Linksys Wireless-G Notebook Adapter WPC54G V3) which oneiric (11.10) doesn't recognize, even with windows drivers (ndiswrapper)! how can i connect internet with this?? plz help
[13:59] <cbfarrand> OK, driver is same as before
[14:00] <undefined_infini> _r00t_, wow nice! you're using low-powered processor.. I like it! :D
[14:00] <glebihan> ikonia, version 3 of gedit is not a development one (it's in the oneiric repos)
[14:00] <SrPx> ikonia: unfortunatelly it does. https://github.com/Quixotix/gedit-source-code-browser
[14:00] <lloyd> bindi:  What is it you really want to do?
[14:00] <ikonia> glebihan: it's listed 2.3 as "stable"
[14:00] <bindi> lloyd: see which countries connection goes through
[14:01] <rbb> dear friends my dvd wont play automaticaly on the default player when inserted,as it used to do ,please help ,im using xubuntu lucid LTS
[14:01] <rbb> hello my dvd wont play auto
[14:01] <rbb> anybody to help
[14:01] <cgrs> can someone help me please??? i have a wireless pcmcia card (Linksys Wireless-G Notebook Adapter WPC54G V3) which oneiric (11.10) doesn't recognize, even with windows drivers (ndiswrapper)! how can i connect internet with this?? plz help
[14:01] <lloyd> bindi: You will just need to look up the IP addresses to see who/where they are assigned.
[14:01] <bindi> lloyd: or use a program that likely exists, you're not really helping :f
[14:01] <SrPx> ikonia: im really sad with all this . i just spent 2 days trying to make something as trivial as finding a good text editor with a feature to navigate though the functions of my source code as i got huge files. so this is necessary. this is all i need. do you know if theres another editor or something that has this?
[14:01] <bindi> lloyd: i know i could manually geoip them, cba
[14:01] <iceroot> SrPx: you not use a real editor instead of fighting with gedit? learning vim/emacs is much easier then fighting with the compile-process of gedit3
[14:01] <ikonia> SrPx: why not ask the gnome developers ?
[14:02] <ikonia> SrPx: it's there development project that's not building/working for you
[14:02] <SrPx> iceroot: really? im using gedit because they said it was the best editor available in ubuntu
[14:02] <iceroot> SrPx: depending which person you ask
[14:02] <iceroot> SrPx: for development and profi-stuff of course vim/emacs are way better
[14:03] <cgrs> hey! please!!
[14:03] <iceroot> SrPx: if you need something like notepad use gedit, if you want a real editor use vim/emacs (and i suggest vim)
[14:03] <SrPx> iceroot: good to hear that. of the 2 what has a good feature to browsing large source codes? could be level folding function listing etc?
[14:03] <SrPx> hmm
[14:03] <iceroot> SrPx: vim can do everything (like emacs)
[14:04] <histo> seconds vim
[14:04] <tensorpudding> SrPx, you can consider geany, i think it has code-folding
[14:04] <deej1976> SrPx: vim, geany for GUI
[14:04] <iceroot> SrPx: e.g. a standard joke is, that emacs is an os with a buildin editor :)
[14:04] <forloop> did I walk into an IDE discussion? :D
[14:04] <iceroot> SrPx: ah sorry, "emacs is a os without a good editor" that was the joke :)
[14:05] <windparadise> hello, pls I made adduser username
[14:05] <windparadise> how do I add a password to it ?
[14:05] <tensorpudding> passwd username
[14:05] <forloop> passwd <username>
[14:05] <tensorpudding> as root
[14:05] <iceroot> windparadise: useradd username
[14:05] <tensorpudding> well
[14:05] <SrPx> iceroot: haha allright ll try vim
[14:05] <deej1976> sudo passwd userid
[14:06] <iceroot> SrPx: try vim, also have a look at the command "vimtutor"
[14:06] <windparadise> ok
[14:06] <josephseraos> Doesn't anybody have the same problem?
[14:06] <iceroot> SrPx: and remeber, vim is not installed by default on ubuntu so run "sudo apt-get install vim"
[14:06] <cgrs> i have a wireless pcmcia card (Linksys Wireless-G Notebook Adapter WPC54G V3) which oneiric (11.10) doesn't recognize, even with windows drivers (ndiswrapper)! how can i connect internet with this ?? plz help
[14:06] <lloyd> bindi:  apt-cache search traceroute
[14:07] <iceroot> cgrs: does "dmesg" show the card when you plug it into the system?
[14:07] <SrPx> iceroot: allright thank you very much (: lets see
[14:08] <iceroot> SrPx: trust me, with some learning vim/emacs are the most powerfull editors out there
[14:08] <cgrs> i don't know, but it shows "firmware it's not installed" or something like that in the top panel
[14:08] <iceroot> cgrs: because the firmware is not free and because of that not part of the standard ubuntu system
[14:09] <iceroot> cgrs: seems like you need to download the firmware
[14:09] <cgrs> where?
[14:09] <lloyd> cgrs: lspci  #Look to see if anything about it shows there.
[14:09] <SrPx> iceroot: is vim the same as Gvim
[14:09] <iceroot> SrPx: gvim is a gui for vim
[14:09] <iceroot> SrPx: vim is text based
[14:09] <binta1> hello
[14:09] <tensorpudding> SrPx, you want gvim probably
[14:10] <Kolt> Hi! I'm running ubuntu. I have dual monitors. One of the monitors have a wrong display. Its right side is blank and the left ofthe image is out of the display area. What can I do about it?
[14:10] <tensorpudding> it'll get both
[14:10] <BangBusRUs> hi i just installed ubuntu 11.10 lastnight, on my thinkpad t61, just need help with the touchpad and mouse buttons..
[14:10] <bindi> lloyd: nothing there.. there's xtraceroute but it's dropped since hardy
[14:10] <lake> Is there a program/heuristic for identifying the className of windows in X?
[14:10] <SrPx> iceroot: tensorpudding: what do you mean with a text editor being text based? it doesnt have a gui? what?
[14:10] <cgrs> ok i'll try it, cuz i'm not on ubuntu
[14:11] <iceroot> SrPx: vim doesnt have a gui, its for the shell
[14:11] <halomom> hey all. I have a problem with a dx8 application in wine
[14:11] <lake> How would one find the className of the window running "gnome-terminal"?
[14:11] <tensorpudding> SrPx, it has a gui, it doesn't run in the terminal
[14:11] <iceroot> SrPx: gvim is a gui for vim
[14:11] <cablop> ok
[14:11] <tensorpudding> SrPx, it'll have an icon that you can click, in the applications
[14:11] <cablop> then 50 GB would be ok for a root partition?
[14:11] <tensorpudding> SrPx, the interface is similar though
[14:11] <cablop> or in better words
[14:11] <cablop> more than enough
[14:11] <bekks> cablop: About 30GB wasted ;) 20GB will be more than enough.
[14:12] <iceroot> cgrs: more then enough
[14:12] <lloyd> cgrs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsLinksys#WPC54G
[14:12] <cgrs> thanx! i'll try!
[14:12] <iceroot> cgrs: wrong nick, sorry
[14:12] <lloyd> bindi: You could still probably find xtraceroute
[14:12] <cablop> ok i am reading that dm-crypt has multithreading
[14:12] <Loptr> I mounted a ntfs drive with ntfs-3g with options auto,users,uid=1000,gid=100,dmask=027,fmask=137,utf8  0  0
[14:12] <iceroot> cablop: yes, more then enough and maybe a waste like bekks said
[14:12] <Loptr> but it still doesnt allow me to change chmods on files and folders
[14:12] <cablop> for kernels above 2.6.30
[14:12] <iceroot> Loptr: ntfs doesnt support unix-acls
[14:13] <bindi> lloyd: trying to
[14:13] <cablop> so i can use LVM on top of that
[14:13] <bekks> Loptr: Because ntfs doesnt support it at all.
[14:13] <cablop> and then play with the root size
[14:13] <Loptr> bekks, i need to change permission on folder to 750 so i can add it as vhost on apache
[14:13] <Loptr> isn't there some way?
[14:13] <bekks> No.
[14:14] <lloyd> cgrs: From:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsLinksys#WPC54G "open the restricted drivers management and enable bcm43xx."
[14:14] <cablop> ok
[14:14] <SrPx> tensorpudding: iceroot no, but i mean... without gvim it has no gui? so what does it do at all? are there people developing using the shell? you do?
[14:14] <cablop> if i plan to have 8GB of RAM, then is a swap of 16 GB a bad idea?
[14:14] <tensorpudding> SrPx, some people do
[14:14] <cablop> consider that swap is used to store the RAM when hibernating
[14:14] <tensorpudding> SrPx, you don't have to
[14:14] <bekks> cablop: Yes. It is unneeded nowadays. Even for suspend you need just 8GB swap maximum.
[14:15] <lloyd> cablop: No, but 8 is prolly all you need
[14:15] <tensorpudding> SrPx, having both is useful, because you can use shell vim over an ssh session
[14:15] <cgrs> @lloyd thanx!
[14:15] <tensorpudding> SrPx, so you can use it to do remote admin
[14:15] <cablop> well disk is 1 TB so i prefer to waste a few GBs and not to fix it a lot
[14:16] <bekks> cablop: Even 30GB will be more than enough.
[14:16] <compdoc> 30GB?
[14:16] <iceroot> SrPx: of course i am developing using vim on the shell
[14:16] <cablop> ok, then 12GB swap and 30 GB root is a good idea
[14:16] <cablop> mmm
[14:16] <mario_> Hi, anyone can help me with an ATI card on Ubuntu 11.10?
[14:16] <lloyd> bekks: 30G is definately MORE than enough.
[14:16] <bekks> cablop: 8GB swap. 30GB /.
[14:16] <cablop> compdoc: i think he refers to the root partition
[14:16] <drake01> cablop, swap twice that of available RAM was an approximation used when RAMs more than 1 GB was rare.
[14:16] <iceroot> SrPx: no need for a gui or a mouse, much faster with real vim then any mouse-movers out there
[14:17] <bekks> lloyd: I know. But I dont knwow what he is going to install ;)
[14:17] <tensorpudding> SrPx, the power of vim is overstated, i recommend using geany
[14:17] <SrPx> oh my..
[14:17] <cablop> bekks: i 'll attempt to use some extra swap due to a virtual machine i use so i don't want to be unable to hibernate for a few mbs in use on swap
[14:17] <bekks> drake01: That time is gone for 15y now.
[14:17] <tensorpudding> SrPx, or probably better, try several things and pick the one that you like most
[14:17] <Can> how difficult is it to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu? and will it screw up grub?
[14:17] <SrPx> thats what im doing
[14:17] <jpds> !kde | Can
[14:17] <cablop> Can no grub affected
[14:17] <tensorpudding> SrPx, real development is easier with emacs than vim
[14:17] <bekks> cablop: That has nothing to do with vms at all. You cannot use more RAM than you have. So 8GB will be enough for swap.
[14:18] <cablop> Can: but you are going to adjust the GDM to KDM
[14:18] <Sandbro> ?
[14:18] <drake01> bekks, Exactly that's what my point...
[14:18] <SrPx> i serioulsy only need a way to browse large source codes without having to scroll them all, both folding or class listing does it
[14:18] <tensorpudding> SrPx, you asked about code folding, i doubt that vim supports it, and it surely wouldn't support it in the shell
[14:18] <SrPx> ill try both
[14:18] <SrPx> and iceroot are you serious? why that ? how do you do a ctrl+f for instance
[14:18] <cablop> bekks: yes, but if swap has, let's say 512 MB in use then there's not enough to save the RAM when hibernating
[14:18] <tensorpudding> SrPx, geany would be the most logical first though, since it's less of a stretch
[14:18] <Can> i should rephrase i think, i want to completely remove unbuntu and install kubuntu instead, ub just runs way to slow on my old lappy and ive read kub is alot more forgiving on older machines
[14:18] <iceroot> SrPx: what should ctrl +f do?
[14:18] <bekks> tensorpudding: Dont tell things that are entirely wrong please. http://smartic.us/2009/04/06/code-folding-in-vim/
[14:19] <iceroot> SrPx: searching? do /string
[14:19] <nDuff> tensorpudding, vim certainly does support code folding7
[14:19] <nDuff> ...oh, bekks already got there
[14:19] <cablop> can wrong, the one for old machines is xubuntu
[14:19] <tensorpudding> that's gvim
[14:19] <Can> cablop: yes thank you thats what i meant
[14:19] <bekks> tensorpudding: No.
[14:19] <SrPx> iceroot: o.o
[14:19] <nDuff> tensorpudding, it's not limited to gvim
[14:19] <iceroot> tensorpudding: of course vim is supporting it
[14:19] <iceroot> SrPx: /foobar
[14:20] <iceroot> SrPx: so search for foobar
[14:20] <kylealbrecht> .
[14:20] <nDuff> tensorpudding, it _is_ limited to vim as opposed to vi emulation mode, but so are most of the useful features.
[14:20] <iceroot> SrPx: much easier then ctrl + f
[14:20] <tensorpudding> SrPx, just go geany, it's simpler and iirc is available by default
[14:20] <Can> cablop: any ideas on how to go about doing that without screwing up my laptop?
[14:20] <SrPx> im liking the idea actually
[14:20] <cablop> can, then same thing, install it, then switch to xdm and done, but it is gtk too, so speed is the same, what you are going to get as an improvement is less ram usage
[14:20] <bekks> tensorpudding: http://vibol.hou.cc/code-folding-in-vim-60
[14:20] <kylealbrecht> i recently installed ubuntu on my laptop, got an intel graphics card and i got no graphics acceleration.
[14:21] <kylealbrecht> if i remember correctly i got it in an earlier version of ubuntu
[14:21] <SrPx> but iceroot you dont really care about syntax lightning?
[14:21] <iceroot> SrPx: look at youtube for "vim videos" to see the power of that editor
[14:21] <SrPx> hmm
[14:21] <SrPx> i will
[14:21] <iceroot> SrPx: of course vim has syntax-highlighting
[14:21] <iceroot> SrPx: as i said, vim is the most powerfull editor out there
[14:21] <SrPx> hmm
[14:22] <iceroot> SrPx: it has 10000000000000 more features then gedit
[14:22] <Jimmio> Could someone explain to me why sticking the output of "yes" into the input of ls causes.. I don't even know what to call it? I figure it's a race condition that uses up all memory.. but I'm not sure, and I won't type the command here as someone will surely run it >.>
[14:22] <tensorpudding> SrPx, take what they say with a big grain of salt
[14:22] <mario_> Hi, anyone can help me with an ATI card on Ubuntu 11.10?
[14:22] <iceroot> SrPx: syntax highlight is not worth to mention as a vim feature
[14:22] <SrPx> tensorpudding: pardon?
[14:22] <halomom> hey all. I have a problem with a dx8 application in wine
[14:22] <share> !ask | mario_
[14:22] <tensorpudding> SrPx, regarding vim being "the most powerful"
[14:22] <iceroot> tensorpudding: vim and emacs
[14:22] <nDuff> tensorpudding, gives as you clearly don't know vim, you're not really in a strong position on the subject.
[14:22] <tensorpudding> SrPx, editor advocacy is a contentious are
[14:22] <cablop> Can: i don't put my hands on fire, but what i'd do is to install the whole xubuntu then switch gdm to xdm and then run it for a while, but to remove the gnome will be a hard task, xfce and gnome share some components
[14:22] <BluesKaj> mario_, more details pls
[14:22] <mario_> thank you ubottu!
[14:23] <share> anyone | mario_
[14:23] <kylealbrecht> does anybody know how to fix no acceleration with an intel graphics card on ubuntu 11.10?
[14:23] <share> !anyone | mario_
[14:23] <share> :)
[14:23] <iceroot> tensorpudding: but maybe you know an editor which is more powerfull then vim/emacs? i would be really interested in something like that
[14:23] <tensorpudding> nDuff, i used vim for quite a while, and i know how disingenuous recommending vim to people just looking for an IDE is
[14:23] <nDuff> tensorpudding, the major thing I see vim missing is refactoring functionality and strong subprocess-buffer support, both things which emacs does better; aside from those, it's up with the best of them
[14:24] <Loptr> Is there a way to change ntfs to ext3 without formating it?
[14:24] <SrPx> iceroot: ok then waht are some of the features that makes it so powerfull? and again, about source code browsing, large file, thousands of functions and classes, having to browse though them very far from each other, and needing to have a good visualization of them, how can vim help me with that?
[14:24] <tensorpudding> they got caught up in having to memorize backwards keybindings
[14:24] <iceroot> SrPx: what about trying vim? it can all you mentioned
[14:24] <mario_> ati drivers installed but system reports VESA. How to know which driver is in use?
[14:25] <nDuff> tensorpudding, SrPx isn't asking for an IDE, but for a "more powerful" editor.
[14:25] <nDuff> tensorpudding, ...and that's exactly what vim is.
[14:25] <tensorpudding> nDuff, depends what you mean by powerful
[14:25] <kylealbrecht> does anybody know how to fix no acceleration with an intel graphics card on ubuntu 11.10?
[14:25] <SrPx> iceroot: but id like to hear from someone who likes it what are the key features that makes it so powerful so i can time them
[14:25] <iceroot> SrPx: also you can use vim-script, load plugins, interacte directly with the shell and its programs, svn and gut integration, syntax highlight, auto complete, syntax check, compile directly, use as a file browser, write markos, call it from the shell with commands, regex and so on and so on
[14:25] <nDuff> tensorpudding, ...I think that's pretty well-defined -- amount of utility readily available through the tool to a user who has already learned it exhaustively.
[14:26] <iceroot> SrPx: #vim, youtube and type in there "vim", vim.org
[14:26] <SrPx> hm ok ok
[14:26] <nDuff> tensorpudding, ...certainly not the same thing as having a tool with an easy learning curve, but such is the nature of going for tools optimized to be useful to experts rather than easy to learn
[14:26] <iceroot> SrPx: just trust me, you can do so powerfull (and sometimes crazy) things with vim/emacs
[14:27] <aaa_> on user account settings, it tells me password:none, but when i want to unlock the settings, it still asks me to authenticate, and doesn't accept blank password (your authentication attempt was unsuccessful). how can i authenticate? do i really need to set a password? how can i do that (again, it need a password to authenticate..)?
[14:27] <tensorpudding> nDuff, i used vim for years and could never remember how to do anything complicated, because of how unintuitive it was
[14:27] <Can> cablop: what would be the best linux environment for a 6 year old laptop with 1.4 ghz single core celeron with 768 ram and a 60gig hard drive?
[14:27] <nDuff> tensorpudding, *shrug* -- you get out what effort you're willing to put in.
[14:27] <tensorpudding> nDuff, yeah, there doesn't seem any value in more effort
[14:27] <cablop> can i will go for xubuntu
[14:27] <nDuff> tensorpudding, ...says the person who cares about code folding but never bothered to learn how to use it.
[14:28] <iceroot> SrPx: just type in the shell "vimtutor" after installing vim. its a tutorial for the vim basics
[14:28] <elgaton> Hi everyone, I have noticed that the page <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes> is missing the hashes for the latest Ubuntu release (11.04). I cannot edit it as I haven't got the necessary permissions. I asked for help on #ubuntu-doc but received no reply. Should I try again on that channel, file a bug in Launchpad or ask on #ubuntu-devel? Thanks.
[14:28] <iceroot> SrPx: best way to learn vim (imo)
[14:28] <cablop> can but i was able to run a full gnome with 3d acceleration in a netbook with 1 GB of RAM and 1.8GHz Atom cpu
[14:28] <tensorpudding> nDuff, cold-folding in vim is probably newer than my last vim experience
[14:28] <aaa_> anyone on?
[14:28] <tensorpudding> SrPx, if you are really going to try vim, you should try emacs too
[14:28] <Can> cablop: it runs ubuntu right now its just REALLY slow
[14:28] <cablop> can i heard that l ldxe or something like that is ok
[14:28] <tensorpudding> SrPx, i regretted not trying emacs and saving myself the trouble of learning vim
[14:28] <Loptr> Is there a way to change ntfs to ext3 without formating it?
[14:28] <iceroot> cablop: i like it much and its worth a look
[14:29] <cablop> lxde... i guess it is the name, and its distro is, of course, lubuntu
[14:29] <iceroot> tensorpudding: as it seems you never learned vim
[14:29] <iceroot> cablop: correct
[14:29] <cablop> iceroot: like what of ll? lxde?
[14:29] <nDuff> tensorpudding, folding support dates to 2001
[14:29] <tensorpudding> iceroot, i learned it well enough to write code in it
[14:29] <elgaton> aaa_: Currently, Ubuntu seems not to accept empty passwords (anyway, it's a bad security practice). There is a Launchpad bug about that, if you give me a second I'll tell you the workaround.
[14:29] <iceroot> tensorpudding: that is not hard, pressing i writting code, pressing :wq
[14:29] <cablop> can, yep, afaik, some people use lubuntu even in arm netbooks (i think the arm processor is a joke xD)
[14:30] <tensorpudding> iceroot, i learned more than that
[14:30] <tensorpudding> iceroot, basically everything you can do with gedit plus some extra
[14:30] <Can> cablop: alright that sounds like it might work so whats the route i take to switch over?
[14:30] <brontosaurusrex> Can, possibly cruncbang or something openbox based, unless you just love lxde that is
[14:30] <godbod> Hay everybody anyone familiar with modelio here
[14:30] <drake01> tensorpudding, U shud have tried learning editing a codebase too using vim.. then you'd have realised what vim really is!!!
[14:31] <cablop> can what i'll do is install lxde and xfce and use both depending on the task at hand
[14:31] <tensorpudding> drake01, a pain? confusing? not as good as emacs?
[14:31] <Can> sudo apt-get install ?
[14:31] <nDuff> Heh.
[14:31] <tensorpudding> i know vim/emacs is a matter of taste
[14:31] <iceroot> tensorpudding: no need for an editor-flamewar
[14:31] <tensorpudding> i just don't like vim
[14:31]  * nDuff has been on both sides of the vim-vs-emacs debate; each for its purpose
[14:31] <brontosaurusrex> Can lubuntu-desktop
[14:31] <tensorpudding> yes
[14:31] <Calinou> vim sux. :P
[14:31] <brontosaurusrex> Can and xubuntu-desktop
[14:31] <nDuff> ...personally, I reach for emacs every time I'm writing code in a LISP variant, vim otherwise
[14:31] <Can> so lubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop?
[14:32] <BluesKaj> !u | drake01
[14:32] <Can> ok brb firing up the lappy
[14:32] <tensorpudding> i used to relegate vim to quick edits
[14:32] <SrPx> tensorpudding: of course ill try the 3 mentioned here
[14:32] <tensorpudding> but i switched to emacs for that too
[14:32] <devilevil> so
[14:32] <iceroot> tensorpudding: and it doesnt matter if you like vim or emacs more but my sentecne "vim/emacs are the most powerfull editors" should be true
[14:32] <tensorpudding> vim starts faster
[14:32] <devilevil> http://www.astronautica.com/nearprev.jpg <-- What X3D plugin is this
[14:32] <iceroot> tensorpudding: depending on your .vimrc :)
[14:32] <devilevil> http://www.astronautica.com/nearprev.jpg <-- What X3D plugin is this
[14:33] <drake01> U BluesKaj, Ha ha!!
[14:33] <devilevil> http://www.astronautica.com/stars.wrl How do I view it
[14:33] <tensorpudding> devilevil, we have no idea
[14:33] <tensorpudding> devilevil, this isn't a good place to ask
[14:33] <tensorpudding> devilevil, also you get better results not spamming channels
[14:33] <aaa_> on user account settings, it tells me password:none, but when i want to unlock the settings, it still asks me to authenticate, and doesn't accept blank password (your authentication attempt was unsuccessful). how can i authenticate? do i really need to set a password? how can i do that (again, it need a password to authenticate..)?
[14:34]  * BluesKaj pretends he's a correction troll :)
[14:34] <halomom> hey all. I have a problem with a dx8 application in wine It refuses to show any output, ad it's a fullscreen application (please pm, I am multi-tasking on several PCs)
[14:35] <godbod> hey
[14:35] <godbod> up
[14:35] <godbod> I need to use modelio
[14:35] <brontosaurusrex> so what is the correct answer if anybody ask if vim or emacs is better? (i never really use any of those)
[14:35] <tensorpudding> devilevil, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeWRL
[14:35] <Can> cablop, brontosaurus: so once there installed how do i go about switching between them? or will it update my grub with the different desktops?
[14:35] <tensorpudding> devilevil, claims to be able to browse VRML/X3D
[14:35]  * drake01 thinks, its good to have a correction troll..
[14:35] <brontosaurusrex> Can, at the login screen you can select
[14:36] <tensorpudding> brontosaurusrex, the polite answer is to say that it's a matter of taste and off-topic
[14:36] <cablop> can, it is managed by the graphic daemon, either gdm, ldm or xdm
[14:36] <brontosaurusrex> tensorpudding, ok :)
[14:36] <elgaton> aaa_: sorry for the late reply. The bug report is this: <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pam/+bug/104957>.
[14:36] <brontosaurusrex> Can, nothing to do with grup
[14:36] <brontosaurusrex> grub*
[14:36] <cablop> can, so don't worry about the grub, the grub just launch the system and then the system takes the control and it depends from that point
[14:36] <BluesKaj> drake01, we have too many,..they lurk without helping unless a helper gives some mistaken advice , then they correct the helper rather trying to help the person who's asking
[14:37] <Can> can i install both at once with sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop or should i do them one at a time?
[14:37] <elgaton> aaa_: At present, the only "stable" fix is to set a password. You may want to try logging in from a terminal (press Ctrl+Alt+F1), login as usual and type "passwd" to set your new password.
[14:37] <cablop> can it doesn't matter
[14:37] <elgaton> aaa_: Then press Ctrl+Alt+F7 to switch to the graphic mode again.
[14:37] <Can> cablop: ill do one at a time just to be safe
[14:38] <cablop> can, yep
[14:38] <jerware> moin.
[14:38] <iceroot> i dont see why this "no login without a password" should be a bug, for me its a security-featu
[14:38] <jerware> I forgot which version of ubuntu I'm running.
[14:38] <jerware> where can I look?
[14:38] <elgaton> iceroot: I agree.
[14:38] <soreau> jerware: lsb_release -a
[14:39] <jerware> Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanx!
[14:39] <cablop> iceroot: for some machines, like light terminal to conusult a catalog in a library, for kiosk mode, for internet cafes... YES login with NO password is required
[14:40] <deej1976> Why no setup with autologin?
[14:41] <SrPx> iceroot: didnt see emacs yet but vim is wonderful, from yt videos.
[14:41] <iceroot> SrPx: as i said :)
[14:41] <iceroot> cablop: guest-session
[14:42] <iceroot> cablop: instead of a real user
[14:42] <cablop> iceroot: mmm nope, guest is tooooo limited
[14:42] <cablop> iceroot: the first problem guest has is that it is nooooo customizable
[14:42] <SrPx> iceroot: but why you ingnore that question? do it have a plugin to visualize the symbols on a file. like the command ls, but for listing classes, functions etc
[14:42] <sevith> Im having issues with executables on a flash drive. Why does'nt this support +x on files? Do I need to remount it ?
[14:43] <iceroot> SrPx: :syn on
[14:43] <dsirijus> will "iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 9933 -j ACCEPT" and "iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 9933 -j ACCEPT" make bidirectional traffic allow on 9933?
[14:43] <iceroot> SrPx: if you mean syntax-highlight on classes and functions
[14:43] <glebihan> sevith, because the file system on the flash drive probably doesn't support linux permissions
[14:43] <iceroot> cablop: hm but i dont think it should be enabled by default in ubuntu
[14:44] <sevith> glebihan, re format with ext4 should fix?
[14:44] <glebihan> sevith, ie if the flash is partitioned as fat or ntfs, you can't change permissions on it
[14:44] <glebihan> sevith, yes
[14:44] <iceroot> cablop: so for me the bug is invalid, if someone wants login without password, he should edit pam.conf, gdm.conf or whatever but not as default
[14:44] <devilevil> What's the best VRML/X3D plugin for Linux/Windows? I need it to view the worlds linked from http://www.astronautica.com/owds.html Octaga, BS Contact and Cosmo Player don't work.
[14:44] <sevith> glebihan, Alright thanks. I thought that might have been the issue. Figured Id ask. I thought i might have to remount it too. :/ Thanks though! You help alot!
[14:44] <devilevil> Also, what's a good place for blubbers
[14:44] <glebihan> sevith, you're welcome
[14:45] <SrPx> iceroot: no i mean, for instance, i type 'listfunctions' and it outputs a list of every function in a cpp file one per line, even better if it then allows me to jump to them
[14:45] <iceroot> devilevil: whitedune
[14:45] <Wavesonics> can I easily have my SSH daemon listen on a 2nd port?
[14:45] <iceroot> SrPx: auto-completion
[14:45] <iceroot> SrPx: opening a menu and showing you what objects are in that class and so on
[14:46] <iceroot> SrPx: writing std:: and it will show you std::cout std::cin and so on
[14:46] <sevith> glebihan, Fat32 ;) Is there a file system that I can use to work on windows too? Or does windows now recognize ext FS? hah. I formatted with fat32 so I can move between my DOZ and nix...
[14:46] <brontosaurusrex> devilevil, what does software center say about that?
[14:46] <brontosaurusrex> devilevil, wrl, wrml
[14:46] <SrPx> iceroot: will it? automatically? where, bellow my input?
[14:46] <glebihan> sevith, I don't think windows handles ext4, so afaik there is no filesystem that both windows and linux will handle and that'll let you use linux permissions
[14:47] <sevith> glebihan, Lame. :(
[14:47] <iceroot> SrPx: below your input but not as default
[14:47] <cablop> glebihan: uniue solution afaik is to use a linux on top of windows or maybe just cygwin
[14:47] <iceroot> SrPx: i think its possible without an extra plugin but dont know the function needed to enable it
[14:47] <cablop> and access that file system from it
[14:47] <cablop> xD
[14:48] <glebihan> sevith, there used to be a way to mount ext3 partitions on windows. I'm not sure whether it still exists and I wouldn't trust it
[14:48] <brontosaurusrex> there are ext2 drivers for windows
[14:48] <iceroot> SrPx: have a look at #vim, also you can place your config in ~/.vimrc to have it for the future
[14:49] <sevith> glebihan, Yeah. Im not too worried. I can always use another flashdrive I guess. Thinking about the issue. I need the perms on this drive because I have TONS of homebrewed scripts on there.....Its a * to run em constantly having to move the fils ha
[14:49] <SrPx> iceroot: ill
[14:49] <sevith> Sweeet. Only gonna take an hour to move my files!
[14:49] <brontosaurusrex> sevith, check http://www.fs-driver.org/
[14:49] <iceroot> SrPx: also have a look at "vimdiff" a very nice diffviewer
[14:49] <glebihan> sevith, well if the files you want to execute are scripts you can also run "sh filename" rather than directly executing the file, that way you don't have to worry about permissions
[14:50] <iceroot> SrPx: you can also diff directly into vim
[14:50] <devilevil> pu
[14:50] <SrPx> iceroot: i dont know what is a diff actually ?
[14:50] <devilevil> 65.206.0.1
[14:50] <iceroot> SrPx: :diff TAB
[14:50] <devilevil> What's the best VRML/X3D plugin for Linux/Windows? I need it to view the worlds linked from http://www.astronautica.com/owds.html Octaga, BS Contact and Cosmo Player don't work.
[14:50] <FloodBot1> devilevil: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:50] <sevith> glebihan, Yeah. Some are C apps though :/
[14:50] <iceroot> SrPx: you want to program and dont know what a diff is? :)
[14:50] <iceroot> SrPx: showing you the difference between two ore more textfiles
[14:50] <cablop> i rephrase my question
[14:50] <iceroot> devilevil: i gave you an answer already
[14:50] <cablop> is dm-crypt multi-threading in *ubuntu*?
[14:50] <SrPx> iceroot: yes i have programmed several programs for years, earned money and i dont know what a diff is (:
[14:51] <SrPx> iceroot: whats that used for
[14:51] <cablop> SrPx: meaning you programmed in windows xD
[14:51] <SrPx> cablop: yep, new to ubuntu
[14:51] <SrPx> to linux*
[14:51] <iceroot> SrPx: create a file, write some text, save it, edit it on some places, save it to another file and call "vimdiff file1 file2" to see
[14:51] <cablop> SrPx afaik a diff is a file holding the differences between two versions of a text file
[14:52] <soreau> SrPx: If you want to know the differences between two files, you can use 'diff file1 file2'
[14:52] <iceroot> SrPx: use vimdiff instead of diff (because its much easier to read)
[14:52] <soreau> SrPx: It compares the files line by line
[14:52] <deej1976> SrPx: meld is a good graphical diff program
[14:53] <soreau> SrPx: A diff is similar to a patch in that it shows exactly what has changed
[14:53] <SrPx> seems like you guys love it lol. looks interesting
[14:53] <brontosaurusrex> so whats the diff between diff and patch?
[14:53] <ubuntu> hey guys. i can't get skype to recognise my webcam on ubuntu 11.10. just get a blank screen. cheese shows it perfectly. is this a well known problem or am i just unlucky with my camera?
[14:54] <soreau> brontosaurusrex: Typically a patch contains information specific to the target package, user info and can contain several diffs in a single patch
 Loptr: mount it so that directories are 755, and files 644.
 Loptr: ask #Ubuntu to see how
[14:55] <jerware> is /etc/init.d/<service> start    replaced with invoke-rc.d <service> start   ?
[14:55] <Loptr> Now in fstab i have UUID=B6E86EB7E86E7591	/media/1TB ntfs-3g   users,rw,umask=000 0 1
[14:55] <Loptr> how should i change it?
[14:55] <brontosaurusrex> soreau, right, so basically a patch is one or more diffs with the target info and submiter info? and other metadata possibly?
[14:55] <karaguellek> hi how can i add more objects to my panel?
[14:56] <karaguellek> guys any ida?
[14:57] <Gruenkohl> karaguellek, use the rih
[14:57] <iceroot> SrPx: its just a very usefull feature the diff
[14:57] <cablop> karaguellek: right clic on the panel, except on gnome 3 or unity... then switch to xfce or kde
[14:57] <soreau> brontosaurusrex: Yes, or could be as simple as a single diff
[14:57] <cablop> ok, then 28 GB still to much to root?
[14:57] <sevith> Any Ops in here I can talk priv. with in -ops?
[14:57] <cablop> ok...
[14:57] <cablop> so no answer
[14:58] <cablop> is dm-crypt multi-threading in *ubuntu*?
[14:58] <deej1976> cablop: what are you deploying?
[14:58] <karaguellek>  cablop:i am on ubuntu 11.10 with gnome-session-fallback i want to know if theres more panel objects like tic tac toe or smtn like that
[14:58] <cablop> afaik gnome 3 is a joke, and a bad one
[14:59] <sevith> cablop, Just like unity.
[14:59] <cablop> so, karaguellek they removed many things
[14:59] <cablop> sevith: oh, no, unity is a desktop wannabe
[14:59] <karaguellek> cablop: actually there are a bunch of stoff
[14:59] <karaguellek> stuff*
[14:59] <sevith> cablop, I dont like unity or GN3. :( Makes me wanna go straight command line.
[14:59] <cablop> i never got to understand why they decided the desktop designed for a netbokk will be the best thing for a desktop environment
[14:59] <d0h> hello i need little help with my script,it wont work with using keys,but with runing in terminal works perfectly... so script is on ... http://shrib.com/1nXyDEjD
[15:00] <qin> sevith: sudo service lightdm stop
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[15:00] <graingert> I can't seem to find any vpn settings on gnome-shell
[15:00] <sevith> qin what is lightdm ?
 Loptr: ask #Ubuntu to see how
[15:00] <sevith> google..
[15:00] <Loptr> Now in fstab i have UUID=B6E86EB7E86E7591	/media/1TB ntfs-3g   users,rw,umask=000 0 1
[15:01] <qin> sevith: new gdm replacement
[15:01] <brontosaurusrex> cablop, I cant use unity on netbook either, so its a mistery
[15:01] <graingert> oh found it
[15:01] <lapion> how do I get the classical recovery menu back?
[15:01] <sevith> qin mmk thanks Ill look into it ;)
[15:01] <cablop> brontosaurusrex: to tell the truth i used full gnome with autohide panels to get the best of my small screen, that was soooo much better than unity
[15:01] <qin> d0h: [ "$state" == "true" ]
[15:02] <brontosaurusrex> same here + docky (and i think ill stick to that)
[15:02] <simgunz> I'm tring installing ubuntu on a second sata HD. The disk is seen by the live ubuntu but not seen by the ubuntu installer, how can I fix it?
[15:02] <d0h> qin no difference..
[15:03] <d0h> it works perfectly if i run in terminal,but if i want to toggle with fn + f9 wont work..
[15:03] <root> bonjour
[15:03] <Guest87803> quelqun est francais ?
[15:03] <lapion> I am talking about the single user commandline menu with 7 or 8 options to fix apt and other stuff
[15:03] <sevith> lol
[15:03] <sevith> root log off irc as root ...bad idea :/
[15:03] <Guest87803> qui est francais ???????
[15:04] <qin> !fr
[15:04] <afeijo> !br
[15:04] <RaTTuS|BIG> Guest87803 - log in as a user not root
[15:04] <sevith> What the egg
[15:04] <sevith> Thats 2 in like. 30 seconds.
[15:04] <msp3k_> Can anyone tell me: Are network interfaces brought up in series or parallel?
[15:04] <sevith> !op
[15:04] <sevith> Oosp.
[15:05] <pangolin> sevith: We see you in the ops channel. Please be patient
[15:05] <brontosaurusrex> so how would you log as root user on ubuntu?
[15:05] <sevith> pangolin, I know sorry. :/
[15:05] <d0h> soo anybody have ideas?
[15:05] <sevith> brontosaurusrex, sudo su -
[15:06] <varikonniemi> hello, ati released new fglrx drivers, is it safe to try updating with ubuntu yeT?
[15:06] <platzhirsch> What program can I use on the console to track changes made to a text file?
[15:06] <brontosaurusrex> sevith, and xchat will run as root? mkay
[15:06] <varikonniemi> when i first installed the "past release upgrades" it spewed errors and broke system
[15:06] <zykotick9> brontosaurusrex, don't use sevith's suggestion.  If you NEED to use "sudo -i"
[15:06] <sevith> I wouldnt run xchat as root anyway.
[15:06] <zykotick9> brontosaurusrex, running xchat as root is dumb
[15:07] <brontosaurusrex> of course, i just wonder how would you actually do in on buntu
[15:07] <sevith> zykotick9,Whats wrong with sudo su - ? Being root as opposed to running one command as root ..or?
[15:07] <p1ruj3>  hey, so had a entry in deny.hosts I needed to remove (local printer who freaked out) how do i rehash that file so the printer is no longer banned?
[15:07] <zykotick9> sevith, the proper way is "sudo -i" sets environment better
[15:08] <sevith> zykotick9, I see.;)
[15:08] <p1ruj3> If I reboot it will work... I have tried force-reload, stopping and starting denyhosts..
[15:08] <sevith> zykotick9, I see reading the man pages ;) Good to know
[15:09] <go87654> can anybody help me with libreoffice impress here?
[15:09] <AcidX_> I need some help with the following issue on Ubuntu 11.10: I work with two user accounts and switch between them every once in a while. But if I logoff a user one or two times and logon as the other user, the Login screen will stop working and you can't do anything anymore, not even shutdown/reboot. Is there anything I can do?
[15:09] <sevith> Man. This flash drives moving sloooww!
[15:09] <Leao> Why is my desktop environment different than the one in gnome 3s webpage ?
[15:09] <Leao> I have 11.10 installed, isnt it activated by default ?
[15:10] <zykotick9> go87654, if it's a libreoffice useage question you might want to try #libreoffice
[15:10] <deej1976> platzhirsch: RCS ( revision control system )
[15:10] <graingert> !unity | Leao
[15:10] <windparadise> hello, pls I add a user via adduser, how do I edit the added user or remove it ?
[15:10] <zykotick9> !nounity | Leao
[15:11] <platzhirsch> deej1976: I am sorry, I stated my question unclear, what I meant was "watch cat <file>"
[15:11] <will123> windparadise: userdel
 Loptr: mount it so that directories are 755, and files 644.
 Loptr: ask #Ubuntu to see how
[15:11] <Loptr> Now in fstab i have UUID=B6E86EB7E86E7591	/media/1TB ntfs-3g   users,rw,umask=000 0 1
[15:11] <sevith> windparadise, https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/user-management.html
[15:11] <windparadise> ok
[15:11] <Leao> then whats the shell seen in the homepage of gnome 3 ?
[15:11] <Leao> isnt it unity ?
[15:11] <go87654> zykotick9, ok. thks
[15:11] <zykotick9> Leao, no, gnome-shell
[15:12] <KrisDouglas> Hello, my Xorg is currently using 1.9GB ram, I am pretty sure that's not right...
[15:12] <zykotick9> Leao, Unity is Ubuntu's interface
[15:12] <sevith> lol...
[15:12] <sevith> I have 3 M
[15:13] <vivanov> my oneiric box is really slow with window dragging and chromium.i dont have graphics card.use unity 2d and gnome no effects.any idea how to improve performance?
[15:13] <frankie`n> In GNOME 2 what pannel does istanbul attach to?
[15:13] <bluenemo> vivanov, use xfce
[15:13] <frankie`n> (the screen recorder)
[15:13] <bluenemo> or lxde
[15:14] <bluenemo> or something even smaller ;)
[15:14] <sevith> frankie`n, I tried using instanbull I had issues. I downloaded gtk-recordmydesktop (Way better) sudo apt-get install gtk-recordmydekstop
[15:14] <sevith> frankie`n, Its alot better IMHO.
[15:14] <bluenemo> i'm using recordmydesktop too, nice tool
[15:15] <frankie`n> sevith: I've tried that before, is there any way to be more specific on the capture area?
[15:15] <bluenemo> you can use that linux fraps thing (google for it)
[15:15] <bluenemo> maybe that can do what you're looking for
[15:15] <sevith> frankie`n, It lets you select the area to capture?
[15:15] <frankie`n> yeah you drag on the preview box
[15:16] <sevith> frankie`n, Instanbull....I'd use it...If it didnt freeze and wasnt choppy on my system....
[15:16] <frankie`n> oh no I've never had istanbul working at all
[15:17] <okCPU_> is there a vim channel?
[15:17] <zykotick9> okCPU_, try #vim
[15:17] <AcidX_> Am I the only one having a broken login screen in Ubuntu 11.10?
[15:17] <frankie`n> sevith: On recordmydesktop, how do I select a specific area?
[15:18] <frankie`n> A lot of the time I'll be recording VirtualBox sessions
[15:19] <brontosaurusrex> frankie`n, http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/rug/p1_2b.php
[15:20] <jazz> i
[15:20] <jasox> Hi ppl, I need advice, I want to become ubuntu developer.
[15:20] <jazz> is anbody hear?
[15:20] <jasox> any references ?
[15:20] <frankie`n> brontosaurusrex: that sounds like what I'm looking for but I don't have any of these tray icons
[15:20] <jazz> xxx
[15:20] <frankie`n> I'm on Mint btw
[15:21] <share> !mint
[15:21] <jazz> is anbody from poland?
[15:21] <jazz> Lol
[15:21] <deej1976> jasox: http://developer.ubuntu.com/
[15:21] <share> yes lots of users
[15:22] <frankie`n> oh awesome, I found it
[15:22] <share> !pl | jazz
[15:22] <Leao> Just installed Gnome shell, its incredibly buggy
[15:22] <frankie`n> well thanks for the help everyone
[15:22] <jasox> deej1976, is there channel for developers
[15:22] <_r00t_> !kfreebsd
[15:22] <Leao> all the texts are bugged
[15:22] <share> Leao: yeah it sucks. :\
[15:22] <jasox> deej1976, i found ubuntu-motu and -uds
[15:22] <Leao> how awful
[15:22] <deej1976>  #ubuntu-devel
[15:22] <jasox> deej1976,  tnx bro
[15:23] <Leao> it doesnt make sense why would they announce g3 shell like this ?
[15:23] <zykotick9> _r00t_, for kfreebsd you'd need debian
[15:25] <devian> I see a lot of kernels in /src
[15:25] <devian> do you need to keep them all?
[15:25] <devian> or can you remove all the out dated ones?
[15:25] <SrPx> iceroot: by the way hjkl for navegating? seriously? whats wrong with jkli (arrow design)?
[15:26] <zykotick9> devian, you can remove them if you wish "dpkg -l | linux-image" to list your installed kernels
[15:27] <zykotick9> devian, sorry "dpkg -l | grep linux-image"
[15:29] <holger> dws
[15:30] <holger> help
[15:30] <Spartakus> Hi, I want to view PNG file with GNOME Image Viewer. But, why does there many brown boxes in the background of the image?
[15:30] <Spartakus> Any PNG files I open always show boxes in the background
[15:30] <Spartakus> I want to open the file with shotwell, but it says that it does not support the file type
[15:31] <Spartakus> My Ubuntu is Lucid Lynx
[15:31] <Spartakus> What suppose I have to do, so I can view the images perfectly?
[15:31] <KrisDouglas> Spartakus, the reason for the boxes is that the image has transparent elements in the background
[15:32] <Spartakus> KrisDouglas, what I have to do to view it just like the rest of any other images?
[15:33] <pooky1> Hi guys, i have problem with ubuntu log. I had a fatal kernel error (black sreen and i must force shutdown), there was some error log on screen and i want watch kernel log, which should be in "/var/log/kernel.log" bat there is not file like this
[15:34] <okCPU_> vim channel is dead... does anyone have a good closetag plugin for HTML that works with mustache templates?
[15:35] <Leao> Is there a solution to the graphics twitching of Gnome shell ?
[15:35] <xangua> i see 718 people on #vim okCPU_
[15:35] <Leao> itd be a shame if there wasnt, its such a functional and good looking shell
[15:35] <Leao> ._.
[15:36] <sevith> okCPU_, You might need to register your nick in order to get into the chan?...?
[15:36] <xangua> Leao: wich graphic card¿ do we have to guess¿ ;)
[15:36] <okCPU_> sevith, that might be it! forgot that "_" isn't registered
[15:36] <sevith> About time! My files a finally moved from my USB! hah.
[15:37] <Uplink> NDIS
[15:37] <Spartakus> Leao, I do not agree with your opinion about GNOME Shell. In my own opinion, the traditional GNOME is just great :D
[15:37] <Uplink> windows ndis
[15:37] <VEndix> hello how to switch to the gnome 3 enviroment on ubuntu 11.10
[15:37] <VEndix> ?
[15:38] <OerHeks> pooky1, /var/log/kern.log maybe ?
[15:38] <pooky1> I'm stupid, i just found it
[15:38] <auronandace> !gnome3 | VEndix
[15:38] <Uplink> Ëµ¼¦°ÍÄØ
[15:38] <OerHeks> pooky1, after reboot, kern.log.1
[15:38] <pooky1> i found it, now i study this log
[15:38] <Leao> Spartakus,  ATI Radeon 4650
[15:38] <devian> zykotick9 how do I remove all old unused linux images/headers with one command?
[15:39] <Wavesonics> hhmmm Port 22 outgoing seems to have been blocked. I was using it to tunnle HTTP traffic securely home, any other ideas for secure browsing from a work computer?
[15:39] <Uplink> ÈÕÄãÃÇ
[15:39] <VEndix> ubottu: i use 11.10
[15:40] <brontosaurusrex> VEndix, 11.10 is fine for gnome-shell
[15:41] <zykotick9> devian, not possible
[15:41] <coocha> has anyone experienced system freezes after entering screensaver/suspend on older P4 Dell Optiplexes?
[15:41] <brontosaurusrex> Wavesonics, move your ssh port to 80 or 21 maybe
[15:42] <coocha> (in 11.04)
[15:42] <devian> you can't like use a * and then use like some kind of an exception command to not remove this one? zykotick9
[15:42] <VEndix> brontosaurusrex: so how to switch on it? is it inside the package of ubuntu 11.10?
[15:42] <Wavesonics> brontosaurusrex, hhmmm it may just got blocked again though... can i do it over HTTP perhaps?
[15:42] <zykotick9> devian, not that i'm aware of.
[15:43] <brontosaurusrex> VEndix, yes, just install, log out and select at login prompt
[15:44] <VEndix> brontosaurusrex: thank uou
[15:46] <dsirijus> hey, this is my iptables -L output http://pastie.org/2793990
[15:47] <doki_pen> I need to install rsyslog 4.7.3+. What is the best way to do that?
[15:47] <dsirijus> but i cannot telnet to either 8080, 9933, or 9399
[15:47] <dsirijus> *8080, 9933, 9339
[15:47] <philwong> Hey whatsup guys
[15:47] <doki_pen> natty has 4.6.4
[15:48] <philwong> Should I get Ubuntu or Mint?? since they are basically almost the same, except mint is better looking and closer to windows
[15:48] <sevith> philwong, Which is why you should use ubuntu. No one likes windows ;)
[15:48] <philwong> sevith: hahahahaa
[15:48] <brontosaurusrex> Wavesonics, no idea, maybe Squid or similar
[15:48] <bluenemo> philwong, if you're new to linux you should use ubuntu.
[15:48] <philwong> I am very new
[15:48] <bluenemo> (imho)
[15:49] <philwong> Is ubuntu the easiest linux?
[15:49] <philwong> or is debian
[15:49] <dsirijus> should i find ubuntu server support on som eother channel?
[15:49] <zykotick9> philwong, debian is NOT
[15:49] <brontosaurusrex> dsirijus, #ubuntu-server
[15:49] <Wavesonics> brontosaurusrex, ya I think tonight when I'm home I'll set my server up to do standard http proxying
[15:49] <dsirijus> thanks
[15:49] <sevith> philwong, Try slackware ;)
[15:49] <philwong> haha
[15:50] <philwong> good one
[15:50] <bluenemo> hm linux is basicly not what you're asking for at the moment :) i think what you want is an easy to use graphical system so far. when you got that, get into the command line
[15:50] <bluenemo> debian is ok too but you want a non professional distribution (like ubuntu)
[15:50] <philwong> Actually i dont like graphical environment
[15:50] <philwong> Even now I am using a win2000 theme on XP
[15:51] <brontosaurusrex> mint main edition is good at this point (imho), since it lags behind ubuntu and doesnt use gnome-shell or unity, so id go with that philwong
[15:51] <bluenemo> if you want to use the command line only i'd recommend debian
[15:51] <sevith> philwong, Try slackware then...I learned alot when I started using it..
[15:51] <doki_pen> philwong: slackware is easiest to understand
[15:51] <p1ruj3> I removed an entry from hosts.deny, restarted denyhosts, and the removed entry still cannot connect, what am I missing? If I reboot it will work.... How can I rehash this entry removal without rebooting?
[15:51] <bluenemo> is slack debian based?
[15:51] <bluenemo> or slack based :) ?
[15:51] <philwong> slackware I heard was one of the hardest
[15:51] <doki_pen> bluenemo: no, it predates debian
[15:51] <philwong> You have to build everything.... :(]
[15:51] <doki_pen> philwong: it's the simplest system
[15:51] <philwong> Yes, after youi have learned it
[15:51] <doki_pen> philwong: what is your goal?
[15:52] <bluenemo> well there is no hard, just distributions for special requirements
[15:52] <philwong> nothin really just a solid operating system that can do what windows does
[15:52] <doki_pen> philwong: people think slackware is hard because it doesn't have GUIs
[15:52] <bluenemo> as you are an beginner you should choose a beginners distribution. if you want to get right into linux's internals, you should use a professional distribution for servers (like slack or deb)(
[15:52] <deej1976> p1ruj3: http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/faq.html#3_19
[15:52] <vivanov> bluenemo: thanks
[15:52] <bluenemo> np
[15:53] <doki_pen> philwong: ubuntu is probably the easiest overall if you just want a working system
[15:53] <p1ruj3> deej1976 I have done so.
[15:53] <vivanov> :)
[15:53] <sevith> Grr Gparted wont let me format this USB.
[15:53] <sevith> !
[15:53] <philwong> I had mint.. but wine works horrible on it
[15:53] <bluenemo> sevith, try dd'ing it first with random or zeros
[15:53] <philwong> also no supoprt for it
[15:53] <sevith> bluenemo, Alright.
[15:53] <bluenemo> if that doesnt work, maybe it is to old and it cant be written to anymore (some usb sticks get that..)
[15:54] <conntrack> Hi
[15:54] <doki_pen> philwong: why don't you use windows if you want the windows experience?
[15:54] <bluenemo> :)
[15:54] <sevith> Question: Somone told me a HDD is limited to 4 partitions. I dont believe this. Am I wrong?
[15:54] <sbarcteam> hi.
[15:54] <bluenemo> sevith, 4 primary partitions
[15:54] <philwong> Linux was faster
[15:54] <sevith> bluenemo, Only 4 primary but as many others as youd like?
[15:54] <glebihan> philwong, wine will work the exact same way on ubuntu and mint
[15:54] <bluenemo> you can declare an extended partition in one of those 4, which then basicly is a partitionable partition
[15:54] <philwong> ran far more smoother than windows
[15:54] <doki_pen> philwong: it's not going to be faster if you are running windows programs on linux
[15:54] <sbarcteam> I am on lucid. and its driver of e1000e is too old for my NIC.
[15:54] <bluenemo> extremly simple said yes sevith
[15:54] <area51pilot> philwong... I agree that ubuntu is prob one of the best beginner distro's to work with...my pref is 10.10
[15:55] <sbarcteam> I have to run lucid. there are backports.
[15:55] <zykotick9> sevith, using extended+logical partitions gives you more then 4
[15:55] <sbarcteam> I don't know how to verify which version of specific driver is shipped with a kernel package.
[15:55] <philwong> Its still on 10.10?
[15:55] <sevith> MMk
[15:55] <glebihan> area51pilot, 10.10 ? it's getting to end of life soon
[15:55] <philwong> thats what I thought
[15:55] <doki_pen> does anyone know how I can install rsyslog 4.7.3+ on natty?
[15:55] <bluenemo> well the newer ones have this raped gnome thing :)
[15:55] <sbarcteam> is there some kind of description file that includes the versions of the kernel modules ?
[15:55] <bluenemo> you can use xubuntu..
[15:55] <philwong> Would have thought it would be at 12.00 now
[15:55] <area51pilot> philwong: 11.04 is out, but i have instability issue in the office environment
[15:55] <bluenemo> or just install another gui..
[15:56] <doki_pen> philwong: if you love windows, I'd try something that uses KDE
[15:56] <Chelsea_>  
[15:56] <bluenemo> my gf is running 11.10 quite fine with gnome shell
[15:56] <area51pilot> philwong: I prefer the 10.10, no annoying issues for me
[15:56] <osubuck_> funny how many people dislike unity
[15:56] <philwong> ok
[15:57] <signal0> hrm. whats the newest virtualbox version for ubuntu?
[15:57] <osubuck_> glad i saved the cd-r
[15:57] <philwong> will it recognize quad core i5?
[15:57] <sevith> The real question is: Who does like unity?
[15:57] <glebihan> area51pilot, 10.10 is not a good choice right IMO. it's either 10.04, 11.04 or 11.10
[15:57] <area51pilot> bluenemo: I dont care for unity and I had some printing issues on the network
[15:57] <zykotick9> !info virtualbox | signal0
[15:57] <qin> !info virtualbox
[15:57] <bluenemo> i have met very few ppl untill now sevith :)
[15:57] <signal0> zykotick9: oh, thanks!
[15:57] <sevith> bluenemo, What do you mean lol
[15:58] <bluenemo> ppl who like unity :D
[15:58] <urupica> i am trying to run a ruby script which requires libglade2 but fails to load it.
[15:58] <sevith> lol
[15:58] <urupica> libglade2-0 is installed, libglade2-ruby has been removed from oneiric repositories. any ideas?
[15:58] <osubuck_> curious to see if ubuntu's popularity will stay after a year or so
[15:58] <bluenemo> urupica, #ruby (or so)
[15:58] <osubuck_> or if everyone flocks to a fork
[15:58] <area51pilot> glebihan: My 10.10 works great, I have no issues with it...use it to administer a windows network LAN/WAN
[15:58] <raven> pvcreate problem - possible that a previous lvm setup denies me to initiate the drive for another? how to delete that config on the drive?
[15:59] <glebihan> area51pilot, I didn't say it didn't work, just that it's close to EOL
[15:59] <sevith> Cool
[15:59] <sevith> Got my USB working :)
[15:59] <bluenemo> :)
[15:59] <bluenemo> sevith, for such things i recommend #digital-forensic
[16:00] <maslen> What is the best way for me to be able to continue my gnome session from a windows machine(with all of its open programs). I already have ssh set up, and xming on the windows machine.
[16:00] <sevith> haha I dont need to recover data ;)
[16:00] <sevith> Ahh quiz time
[16:00] <sevith> fml
[16:00] <kingplop> lol
[16:00] <brontosaurusrex> maslen, check nx nomachine
[16:00] <deej1976> maslen:  vncserver, second nomachine
[16:01] <randy2009> Hi, is this normal: rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 8.369/9.170/13.689/0.848 ms (ping google.com)
[16:01] <neure> hello
[16:01] <area51pilot> glebihan: gotcha, I agree. I dont have time to mess with some of the bugs for 11...letting the community work them out before i upgrade myself. Im running it on another sys in the office but its not required to do as much. Plus Im not much for the unity interface (I am aware of the non-unity login)
[16:01] <neure> how can i see which kernel config i am currently running?
[16:01] <share> neure: uname -r
[16:01] <neure> i am trying to figure out why nfs complains my kernel has no support for it
[16:02] <share> neure: in the terminal.
[16:02] <maslen> I'm reading up on nomachine now; I've used VNC when I had windows, but I can't seem to tie the server to use 'my' display.
[16:02] <TheProf> Hello.  I hope everyone is well.  I am unable to remotely access my 10.04 installation.  The remote desktop manager says it will only allow access from local host.  I am trying to reach it from another Ubuntu machine on the LAN.  What should I do please?
[16:02] <randy2009> if i ping it pings every 5 seconds, or is this an ubuntu feature? (centons pings every1 second)
[16:02] <glebihan> area51pilot, I can understand that, but in that case I'd go with 10.04 rather than 10.10 for a new install
[16:02] <neure> grepping /boot/config for my kernel version has this in it: http://codepaste.net/8mewwn
[16:03] <neure> share: how can i make sure that the config in /boot/config-version is the one i am actually using?
[16:03] <share> neure: I dont know.
[16:03] <neure> :/
[16:03] <brontosaurusrex> maslen, nx worked well for me (clients for win, osx and ubuntu)
[16:04] <area51pilot> glebihan: when is EOL for 10.10? It was released last Oct
[16:04] <maslen> ok, I'll run it soon. ty
[16:04] <glebihan> area51pilot, next April
[16:06] <zykotick9> area51pilot, non-lts releases are supported for 18 months
[16:06] <llutz> randy2009: 11.10 pings every second here, unless ping -i  is used
[16:06] <area51pilot> glebihan...OK thx. My biggest issue with 11 besides unity is network printing to copier...spits out garbage. Im sure its a driver issue
[16:07] <Ratha> hello there
[16:07] <area51pilot> glebihan: being the only it guy in my company, i dont have much time to play around with my own stuff. It need to work consistently.
[16:08] <maslen> area51pilot: How many `users` do you need to support?
[16:09] <Ratha> I just tried to install ubuntu 11.10 on VMware 4.0, and I get this message: "Software virtualization is incompatible with long mode on this platform. Disabling long mode.Without long mode support, the virtual machine will not be able to run 64 bit code"
[16:10] <Ratha> anyone an Idea why i get this?
[16:10] <area51pilot> Its a windows network, I just hate using windows, only when i must. I support 2 Win (2008/2011) servers and over 100 local/remote XP & 7 clients
[16:11] <area51pilot> maslen: I get by just fine without Win
[16:11] <Ratha> noone any ideas? :(
[16:11] <area51pilot> maslen: ...but 100+ users on Win network
[16:11] <LjL> i have problems with my EeePC 901's wifi on Oneiric. it works for a while, but after minutes it disconnects, asks for my passkey again, and never connects until i reboot.
[16:12] <maslen> area51pilot: Ouch.
[16:14] <Gibbs> Having a problem with installing the latest version of HPLIP (3.11.10) on Ubuntu 10.04. Keeps saying "Configure failed with error: python-devel not found" although python-dev is installed!? Any suggestions?
[16:14] <area51pilot> maslem: Its not too bad. A lot of repetitive "User" induced issues!  :P
[16:14] <krZy> hi.. i just installed oneiric kubuntu, now i need to use my android phone's usb tethering with it I have just no way of getting this to work. Need help.
[16:15] <maslen> I accidentally got the x86 nxserver, now Ubuntu software center give me the installer windows for that instead of the x64. How can I remove the x86 version from the cache?
[16:16] <area51pilot> krZy: what form of tethering are u using
[16:16] <krZy> USB
[16:16] <area51pilot> APP or Native
[16:16] <krZy> i had used it before... on 10.04, gnome
[16:16] <krZy> native
[16:16] <area51pilot> i use EasyTether
[16:17] <Leao> Gnome-Shell is not working with fglrx, should i change to Opensource drivers ?
[16:17] <krZy> how i remember using it on Ubuntu(not kubuntu) is that i plugged it in, and network-manager showed it right away.. not working now
[16:17] <krZy> what's changed?
[16:17] <brontosaurusrex> maslen, just "sudo dpkg -i package.deb" might do it
[16:18] <area51pilot> krZy: let me plug mine in and see, im running 10.10 though
[16:18] <quark> ?
[16:18] <krZy> I think this works even on 11.04
[16:18] <jacquesdupontd> Leao there are plenty of thread on that subject , you've got to compile the new catalyst just make a google search ubuntu 11.10 ati catalyst
[16:19] <swick> hi, I want to build a project which requires the imagemagick dev files. I found libmagickcore-dev but there are 96 packages which needs to be removed to install it.
[16:19] <krZy> @area51pilot: I'll be waiting
[16:21] <area51pilot> krZy: what model Android phone and OS ver.
[16:21] <blueyy> does anyone know a solution for alternating row colors in g/vim? can't find anything that works ....
[16:21] <FlexGuy> anybody can help for problem after Active directory sid to gui with ubuntu server 10.04
[16:21] <paulone> hy all
[16:22] <maslen> brontosaurusrex: Thanks, it installed them now. I'll test it on the windows box soon. Gotta run now.
[16:22] <brontosaurusrex> maslen, np
[16:23] <krZy> area51pilot : galaxy S i9003 , gingerbread 2.3.5
[16:24] <sbarcteam> hmmm.
[16:24] <sbarcteam> the good news is that the latest kernel from backports did support my nic.
[16:24] <neure> i bumped into this issue in 10.04: http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=5549
[16:25] <sbarcteam> the bad thing is I didn't find a proactive way to determine what version a specific module is.
[16:25] <neure> does ubuntu have a bug tracker somewhere i could see if this bug is registered and tracked?
[16:25] <sbarcteam> except bugging maintainers or developers.
[16:25] <neure> this was rather annoyning to debug
[16:25] <glebihan> !launchpad | neure
[16:26] <neure> where in launchpad can i find ubuntu 10.04 related bugs?
[16:27] <poison> Sony Xperia X10 mini. Want to be able to connect to internet on Ubuntu 11.4. Help me. Thanks in advance
[16:27] <glebihan> neure, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid
[16:27] <krZy> sorry was disconnected.. area51pilot : did you say anything
[16:27] <krZy> ?
[16:28] <area51pilot> unfortunately no :P
[16:28] <area51pilot> krZy: are you using and App or paid service on your Galaxy S
[16:29] <poison> Sony Xperia X10 mini. Want to be able to connect to internet on Ubuntu 11.4. Help me. Thanks in advance
[16:30] <llutz> poison: android phone? usb - share network to PC (windows).  networkmanager should use something like "usb0" then
[16:31] <Leao> How do install an opensource ATI driver on my laptop ?
[16:31] <blueyy> wtb solution for g/vim alternating line color
[16:31] <poison> llutz: Yes, Android 2.1, I can connect to internet using Easy Tether, but can't surf https: sites, I would like to know alternate way, so that I can surf https: sites too
[16:32] <systemclient> how can I, as root, send a notification to the currently logged in user?
[16:32] <krZy> area51pilot: I'm not sure I follow
[16:33] <Olson_> hello
[16:33] <MrPockets> HI
[16:34] <Olson_> i need help installing google earth on Ubuntu 10..04
[16:35] <area51pilot> krZy: how do u share your internet FROM your phone, is there an APP u are using on it?
[16:35] <area51pilot> Olson_:http://www.google.com/earth/download/ge/agree.html
[16:35] <deej1976> systemclient: write
[16:35] <Olson_> can anyone help with my installation of google earth?
[16:36] <area51pilot> Olson_: Choose 32 or 64 bit for Debian/Ubunut
[16:36] <sevith> Bye guys
[16:36] <systemclient> deej1976: is that going to the kind of message I see when I connect to a wifi and stuff?
[16:36] <systemclient> deej1976: or where does this appear?
[16:37] <deej1976> From the man page "man write" it would go to their tty session, I've not used it myself
[16:37] <area51pilot> Olson_: once downloaded, install through the Software Center or using something like GDebi
[16:38] <deej1976> systemclient: try notify-send
[16:38] <catphish> i've had 3 10.04 servers crash today :(
[16:39] <systemclient> deej1976: It works, but not with sudo …
[16:39] <area51pilot> catphish: sounds like a bad day
[16:39] <systemclient> deej1976: the message just does not appear at all
[16:39] <catphish> area51pilot: u'd say so
[16:39] <area51pilot> catphish: u know the cause?
[16:39] <catphish> one crashed with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/824304
[16:40] <catphish> the other 2 i'm really not sure
[16:40] <catphish> they had cpu lockups but didnt panic
[16:41] <deej1976> systemclient: it worked for me, with sudo the message appeared as from the user running sudo
[16:41] <oiiii> hi if I'm doing  'sudo  apt-get blah && sudo apt-get moo'
[16:41] <oiiii> is the second sudo required?
[16:41] <oiiii> :)
[16:42] <systemclient> deej1976: I gotta try again … I use 11.10 with Unity
[16:42] <systemclient> deej1976: huh … it works now
[16:42] <systemclient> deej1976: thanks!
[16:42] <bekks> oiiii: Yes.
[16:42] <brontosaurusrex> oiiii, i think you can sudo apt-get foo,bar
[16:42] <mneptok> oiiii: no.
[16:42] <Potatoe> #nagios
[16:42] <glebihan> systemclient, once logged in as root (with sudo -i or sudo -s) you should be able to use : su username -c "notify-send message"
[16:42] <mneptok> oiiii: sudo apt-get install $PACKAGE1 $PACKAGE2
[16:42] <oiiii> no that's not the question
[16:43] <systemclient> glebihan: oh, I did not think about that either. Thanks!
[16:43] <oiiii> i didn't say install
[16:43] <oiiii> :)
[16:43] <glebihan> sysadamin, you're welcome
[16:43] <oiiii> mneptok:
[16:43] <oiiii> && sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get clean all && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get clean all && sudo apt-get autoremove'
[16:43] <lauratika> cryptkeeper is not recognizing my passwrod after reinstalling ubuntu 11.10 how can i restart my passwrod so i can access my files
[16:43] <oiiii> is this correct?
[16:43] <mneptok> oiiii: you specified no operator for apt-get. what do you want the app to do?
[16:43] <FloodBot1> oiiii: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:43] <jacquesdupontd> hey
[16:43] <oiiii> mneptok: to make that shorter?
[16:43] <systemclient> glebihan: I think you did not press tab often enough ;-)
[16:44] <glebihan> systemclient, oups you're right ;)
[16:44] <mneptok> oiiii: && is a command seperator. unless you run it from a sheel as root, you'll need sudo for each command.
[16:44] <pvh_sa> hey there, i'm on 11.10 and i've got this problem that when my laptop suspends and unsuspends i get really weird routing problems. like no route to www.google.com. anyone seen this?
[16:44] <mneptok> oiiii: the easier way is to alias it.
[16:44] <oiiii> mneptok: so even though sudo has been unlocked i still need to specify it for ALL commands?
[16:44] <oiiii> i thought it give u 15 minutes
[16:45] <oiiii> and then timed out
[16:45] <oiiii> and asked again
[16:45] <jacquesdupontd> is there anyway to reconf dconf to default for all settings ? i can't get back to normal color since the maj , i tried ubuntu tweak , deleted all themes and reinstalled them , deleted all conf files in ./home directory , i can't get to even change the color of nautilus within gnome color chooser , i've got a black on black really annoying , where is that damn conf file to get back to normal color after a fresh install , it sh
[16:45] <jacquesdupontd> ould be easily possible
[16:45] <Mene-Mene> I'm trying to run gprof, but the output is getting cut off, I think that 'less' is the tool for the job, but I don't seem to be able to run it off an executable with options.
[16:45] <glebihan> oiiii, you have 15 minutes without needing to type the password again
[16:45] <jacquesdupontd> it makes now 3 days i'm on it , and i'm getting crazy
[16:45] <mneptok> oiiii: it will prompt for a password once. but you need to run those commands as root, and that's what sudo is doing.
[16:45] <oiiii> glebihan: but it still requires sudo?
[16:45] <glebihan> oiiii, you still need to use the sudo command each time you want to run a command as root
[16:45] <oiiii> ok
[16:45] <oiiii> so my command is correct? ^^
[16:45] <systemclient> glebihan: or do the "sudo su -" and you are root
[16:45] <bekks> useless use of su.
[16:46] <bekks> sudo -i
[16:46] <glebihan> systemclient, no never use "sudo su"
[16:46] <mneptok> oiiii: never seen or used "clean all" (just "clean"), but yes
[16:46] <glebihan> systemclient, sudo -i or sudo -s
[16:46] <nDuff> Mene-Mene, it'd help if you showed us how you were trying to do this
[16:46] <systemclient> bekks: interesting. never seen it, make sense
[16:46] <systemclient> glebihan: u 2 ^^
[16:46] <lauratika> anyone?
[16:46] <Mene-Mene> I'm trying "less gprof Debug/glAnim2"
[16:47] <oiiii> so clean all is wrong?
[16:47] <oiiii> it's just sudo apt-get clean?
[16:47] <mneptok> oiiii: what is it you want this command to do, exactly? look for all updates, apply them, and then clean the downloaded packages?
[16:47] <glebihan> oiiii, that's right, just "sudo apt-get clean"
[16:48] <oiiii> mneptok: well I have a user with a E: _cache->open() failed error
[16:48] <krZy> area51pilot : I want to use the "Tether" option available on the phone to SHARE 3g between phone and the PC
[16:48] <Mene-Mene> Which says "gprof: no such file or directory (newline) "Debug/glAnim2" may be a binary file. See it anyway?"
[16:48] <krZy> no app
[16:48] <oiiii> mneptok: so I want it to finish any failed downloads, install updates and clean everything
[16:48] <mneptok> oiiii: ensure that Synaptic and all package management apps are closed.
[16:49] <jacquesdupontd> anyone please
[16:49] <oiiii> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[16:49] <oiiii> no package managers open
[16:49] <oiiii> mneptok:
[16:50] <glebihan> jacquesdupontd, the color of what exactly are you talking about ?
[16:50] <jacquesdupontd> i don't want to insist but it makes 3 days i'm doing everything myself by searching on google
[16:50] <mneptok> oiiii: did you run "sudo dpkg –configure -a"
[16:50] <jacquesdupontd> glebihan, in fact i think it applied some themes settings i had made on the older version but on the new version of Ubuntu
[16:50] <oiiii> mneptok: yes
[16:50] <mneptok> oiiii: and?
[16:51] <jacquesdupontd> glebihan, now i've got all windows black , highlight colors are horrible and it gives an horrible contrast with any theme except highcontrast
[16:51] <brontosaurusrex> jacquesdupontd, so if you make a new user the behavior is the same?
[16:51] <jacquesdupontd> i know a bit ubuntu for 5 years now , been helping a lot of people and i've really tried everything i could think about
[16:51] <jacquesdupontd> brontosaurusrex, exactly , first thing i've tried
[16:51] <oiiii> mneptok: still the error
[16:51] <oiiii> .....
[16:52] <Mene-Mene> nvm, I found it...
[16:52] <Leao> Can somebody PLEASE tell me how to install Open source Radeon drivers  ?
[16:52] <glebihan> jacquesdupontd, then it probably has nothing to do with dconf
[16:52] <jacquesdupontd> i've seen that i was not alone in that case but all thread didn't helped me that much
[16:53] <jacquesdupontd> glebihan, you bet it , but if you read upper what i've tried you'll understand that i've got nowhere to search anymore
[16:53] <mneptok> oiiii: where are you seeing this message?
[16:54] <jacquesdupontd> font colors , background color of windows and highlight buttons , on synaptic , gedit , nautilus (horrible) and gedit , sometimes with some themes i can't even see the text , white on white
[16:54] <oiiii> mneptok: in terminal
[16:54] <oiiii> mneptok: when i try to update
[16:54] <mneptok> oiiii: yes ... when you run *what* command?
[16:55] <oiiii> mneptok: apt-get install somepackage
[16:55] <deej1976> jacquesdupontd: gconf-editor, look at Defaults windows and Mandatory, run with sudo
[16:55] <mneptok> oiiii: have you trid just updating the package lists? (sudo apt-get update)
[16:55] <jacquesdupontd> deej1976, gonna try it , but as i even tried to delete all gconf files (didn't changed anything plus the new user session , should makes no difference but i'm gonna take a look at it)
[16:55] <dmb__> hi
[16:56] <dmb__> I recently upgraded to 11.10, and I'm trying to get gnome back ;-)
[16:56] <dmb__> for some reason, right mouse click on the gnome pannel doesn't work as before
[16:56] <Guest61811> hellow, does anybody know how to install "conky" on ubuntu 10.10?
[16:56] <dmb__> I want to add a few launchers to the pannel
[16:56] <area51pilot> jacquesdupontd: creating a new user has the same issue?
[16:56] <dmb__> Guest61811: apt-get not working?
[16:56] <jacquesdupontd> yes sir
[16:57] <jacquesdupontd> if you can look uper i've tried a lotta thing
[16:57] <Guest61811> it's working, just won't start
[16:57] <jacquesdupontd> is there anyway to reconf dconf to default for all settings ? i can't get back to normal color since the maj , i tried ubuntu tweak , deleted all themes and reinstalled them , deleted all conf files in ./home directory , i can't get to even change the color of nautilus within gnome color chooser , i've got a black on black really annoying , where is that damn conf file to get back to normal color after a fresh install , it sh
[16:57] <jacquesdupontd> ould be easily possible
[16:57] <dmb__> I'm finding xfce too annoying ... window borders are too small for my touchpad
[16:57] <jacquesdupontd> (reposted my first post)
[16:57] <TransX2> Why does Ubuntu run slower on my machine than windows did?
[16:58] <deej1976> jacquesdupontd: no luck with gconf-editor
[16:58] <dmb__> basically, I liked gnome the way I had it... I've added it to the install, but as I said, I can't seem to add launchers to the gnome pannel
[16:58] <dmb__> right mouse click on teh pannel has no effect
[16:58] <jacquesdupontd> deej1976, don't think so
[16:58] <dmb__> is this intentional, or is something borked?
[16:58] <jacquesdupontd> deej1976, gconf-editor is applying things on the user home dir right ?
[16:58] <dmb__> ok, here goes... can anyone hear me? (please say 'no' if you can't)
[16:59] <brontosaurusrex> jacquesdupontd, so i guess the default templates are borken somehow, so find where are those stored and somehow compare to official ones
[16:59] <Guest61811> dmb__, no, i can't...
[16:59] <deej1976> jacquesdupontd: if you sudo gconf-editor it will set the system defaults and mandatory settings
[16:59] <okCPU_> where are the default vim files located?
[16:59] <sileni> hello everyone
[16:59] <dmb__> oneric ... is that like as in ... onin?
[16:59] <dmb__> Guest61811: ty
[16:59] <Guest61811> dmb__, this is internet... not audio
[16:59] <Guest61811> ;)
[16:59] <dmb__> hehe
[16:59] <deej1976> jacquesdupontd: you might need to delete the users .gconf directories still
[16:59] <jacquesdupontd> deej1976, could you tell me exactly how ?
[16:59] <Guest61811> dmb__, and how do i get that conky started?
[17:00] <jacquesdupontd> deej1976, i've deleted all of them deej1976 as said upper
[17:00] <sileni> I'm trying to ssh into a linux machine... and i get "Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer"
[17:00] <deej1976> sudo gconf-editor
[17:00] <dmb__> Guest61811: I have no idea about conky, but in general, use apt-get to install stuff
[17:00] <jacquesdupontd> deej1976, i'm on it
[17:00] <jacquesdupontd> but then
[17:00] <dmb__> Guest61811: 'apt-cache search conky'
[17:00] <glebihan> dmb__, gnome-panel in gnome-session-fallback has a lot less functionalities than in gnome2, I'm not sure you can add applets to the panels
[17:00] <sileni> does anyone know what might be causing that problem?
[17:00] <dmb__> glebihan: wow, that sucks
[17:00] <Guest61811> dmb__, hmm... it's installing normal...
[17:00] <jacquesdupontd> to make a bit set to default deej1976
[17:00] <sileni> I have disabled iptables...ufw everything
[17:01] <dmb__> glebihan: I think I've installed gnome 2 though...
[17:01] <glebihan> dmb__, it's a *fallback* session, not intended for daily usage
[17:01] <mneptok> sileni: 'ssh -vvvv user@host' will tell you more
[17:01] <sileni> i also brought up virtualbox with windows guest and i was able to putty from there
[17:01] <dmb__> glebihan: oh
[17:01] <sileni> mneptok: one second
[17:01] <harsh343> whenever I m trying to install anything in ubuntu 10.04 i got an error like this
[17:01] <harsh343> http://pastebin.com/uGbuc4Ny
[17:01] <lotus> hey
[17:01] <jacquesdupontd> deej1976, how could i do that easily as you can imagine i can't see certain sentences in gconf-editor because of the color problem :)
[17:01] <dmb__> glebihan: I've tried the 'ubuntu' desktop, and the 'gnome classic'
[17:01] <glebihan> dmb__, and how did you install gnome 2 ?
[17:01] <default__> Can I help me change Ubuntu 32 bits to Ubuntu 64bits 11.10
[17:01] <osubuck_> wonder if shuttleworth is starting to see the trend against unity yet, or if he doesn't care
[17:01] <deej1976> jacquesdupontd:  File -> New Default Windows, delete all default settings
[17:01] <dmb__> glebihan: not sure if I have ... I just picked it from the 'desktop-base' package in the pk-mngr
[17:01] <jacquesdupontd> deej1976, gonna try it thanks a lot
[17:02] <brontosaurusrex> osubuck_, hehe
[17:02] <deej1976> jacquesdupontd: Then same with Mandatory Windows
[17:02] <japro> hmm, how would i enumerate the physical HDs/SSDs in the system?
[17:02] <Chelsea_> osubuck_, I think he has his own vision ;)
[17:02] <sileni> http://pastebin.com/be8Qyf74 that is the result of my ssh -vvv command
[17:02] <dmb__> glebihan: I'm in xfce now, but I fired up gnome-pannel... can't add apps to it
[17:02] <sileni> mneptok: http://pastebin.com/be8Qyf74 sorry
[17:02] <japro> not the partitions, the device? i just want to check if the new ssd works
[17:02] <lotus> I'm trying to install 2.6.38.8 kernel in ubuntu 11.10 -- it's installed and I can pick it from the grub boot menu.  However, my OS freezes before I get to the Ubuntu Loading screen (with the dots) -- I need wireless and 2.6.38.8 is apparently the latest kernel that works.  I've tried 2.6.38.11 which does boot, but I still have no wireless functionality
[17:02] <dmb__> sorry... can't right click it
[17:02] <glebihan> dmb__, in that case you didn't install gnome2 (it's incompatible with oneiric)
[17:02] <osubuck_> his own vision that almost nobody else shares :)
[17:02] <dmb__> glebihan: ok
[17:02] <jacquesdupontd> deej1976, what do you mean by the mandatory windows ?
[17:02] <dmb__> glebihan: should I be able to see a menu when right clicking the 'gnome-pannel' started in xfce?
[17:03] <dmb__> or how about in the regular 'ubuntu' desktop?
[17:03] <jacquesdupontd> deej1976, i'm doing this in the upper part of the tree right deej1976 ?
[17:03] <glebihan> dmb__, not sure about gnome-panel in xfce never tried it
[17:03] <Chelsea_> osubuck_, Maybe in about a year we'll be wondering why we didn't see it...
[17:03] <glebihan> dmb__, the "regular" ubuntu desktop is unity
[17:03] <dmb__> glebihan: it behaves like in gnome, as far as I can tell
[17:03] <sileni> mneptok: the wierd part is my windows guest on virtualbox on same machine is able to putty into that host
[17:03] <mneptok> sileni: it looks like the connection actually fails. is port 22 open to the outside? do you need to forward that port in your router? does your ISP allow port 22?
[17:03] <deej1976> jacquesdupontd: Look under the File menu should new three option one defaults one mandatory defaults that the user can/can't change ( can never remember which )
[17:03] <dmb__> glebihan: is unity not based on gnome then?
[17:03] <dmb__> (sorry for ignorance)
[17:04] <sileni> mneptok: i"m pretty sure it is open..i can ssh into other systems
[17:04] <glebihan> dmb__, yes it is, but it's based on gnome3 not gnome2
[17:04] <jacquesdupontd> ho right
[17:04] <mneptok> sileni: "same machine" which? the one you are using as a client, or V-box on the ssh server box?
[17:04] <harsh343> whenever I m trying to install anything in ubuntu 10.04 i got an error like this Errors were encountered while processing:
[17:04] <brontosaurusrex> Chelsea_, like a "sudden realization" wow, yeah, now i can see the coolness of it
[17:04] <harsh343>  crossplatformui
[17:04] <deej1976> jacquesdupontd: yes Delete the right settings should be a subset of all options
[17:04] <dmb__> ok, in the gnome arena, I've got gnome, gnome-classic, gnome-classic-no-effects, ubunut, ubuntu-3d
[17:04] <deej1976> jacquesdupontd: Good luck got to leave now.
[17:04] <sileni> mneptok: the one I'm using as client, I bring up vbox with windows guest
[17:04] <l33tch> anyone tried dual booting win7 and ocelot on a striped raid? I tried but when done, ubuntu wouldn't load and grub did not pick up win7... i've since put the grub bootloader on a seperate single drive and it picks up windows on teh raid... but was just hoping to have all the os related stuff on the raid itself
[17:04] <jacquesdupontd> deej1976, it created a new conf window with only gnome in the tree
[17:04] <dmb__> I can't add launchers to the pannel in any of them...
[17:04] <jacquesdupontd> deej1976, is that what i had to do ?
[17:05] <mneptok> sileni: ah, OK. did you install fail2ban or anything that would monitor and disallow ssh connections?
[17:05] <glebihan> dmb__, gnome-panel is the same in all of them
[17:05] <japro> how would i enumerate the physical HDs/SSDs in the system?
[17:05] <deej1976> jacquesdupontd: See what settings are under gnome
[17:05] <jacquesdupontd> deej1976, got / desktop and gnome
[17:05] <sileni> mneptok: nope
[17:05] <dmb__> glebihan: ok, is my gnome-pannel broken then? I can't right click on it
[17:05] <sileni> mneptok: i added the server to /etc/hosts too
[17:05] <dmb__> or rather, right click yeilds nothing
[17:05] <Chelsea_> brontosaurusrex, right... I also couldn't get used to win3.11.
[17:05] <glebihan> dmb__, and it's the one associated to the fallback session, so it's limited (it's  not broken)
[17:05] <zykotick9> japro, you mean list them?  "sudo fdisk -l"
[17:05] <jacquesdupontd> deej1976, seeing it ok
[17:05] <jacquesdupontd> deej1976, and then ?
[17:05] <harsh343> help me pelase
[17:06] <dmb__> glebihan: ok, beginning to understand now
[17:06] <deej1976> jacquesdupontd: right click delete I think
[17:06] <rocco> sono  italiano
[17:06] <jacquesdupontd> deej1976, i take it and apply it to the older window of gconf ?
[17:06] <jacquesdupontd> ok
[17:06] <zykotick9> !it | rocco
[17:06] <deej1976> jacquesdupontd: Just delete should do it.
[17:06] <japro> zykotick9, yes, i wanted to see if i installed the ssd correctly, fdisk -l says /dev/sda doesn't contain a valid partition table... i guess that is the ssd then
[17:06] <nww> Hello All
[17:07] <dmb__> glebihan: ok, here is the quetion I didn't know I needed to ask... how do I add application launchers to unity?
[17:07] <mneptok> sileni: are you using key-based authentication?
[17:07] <Chelsea_> harsh343, if you don't describe your problem, it's difficult for ppl to help.
[17:07] <mneptok> sileni: or passwords?
[17:07] <zykotick9> japro, i'd guess sda is what you are currently booted off of
[17:07] <dmb__> when I want a terminal, I dont' want to search through all aplications and select terminal... I just want to click it
[17:07] <sileni> mneptok: no. My friend from another machine can get to the computer and it prompts for pw
[17:07] <glebihan> dmb__, actually I don't know, never used it
[17:08] <dmb__> glebihan: what wm do you use?
[17:08] <japro> zykotick9, hmm, sdb is identified as the 750gb hd that i had originally and where all the stuff is installed
[17:08] <glebihan> dmb__, I'm using gnome-shell
[17:08] <sileni> mneptok: passwords is the answer to your last question i guess
[17:08] <lotus> Anyone know how to get 2.6.38.8 kernel to work in ubuntu 11.10?
[17:08] <brontosaurusrex> dmb__, rmb on the dock and select "pin here" or similar?
[17:08] <japro> i guess pluged them into the sata ports the wrong way
[17:08] <mneptok> sileni: are you logged-in to that machine in a way other than ssh?
[17:08] <sileni> mneptok: no
[17:08] <mneptok> sileni: because PAM may limit the number of sessions you can create.
[17:09] <dmb__> brontosaurusrex: rmb doesn't pull up a menu on the doc :(
[17:09] <sileni> mneptok: No, I just created the machine on cloud
[17:09] <rocco> non  conosco  l'inglese
[17:09] <dmb__> let me go into unity, so I can follow suggestions directly, I'll be back shortly
[17:09] <dmb__> thanks for help so far
[17:09] <brontosaurusrex> dmb__, just start terminal and the icon should appear in the dock right? (or maybe i dont understand the question)
[17:10] <mneptok> sileni: what are you using to connect from Windows?
[17:10] <dmb__> brontosaurusrex: oh, one moment
[17:10] <lelamal_> rocco: connettiti al canale #ubuntu-it
[17:10] <sileni> mneptok: putty
[17:10] <mneptok> sileni: OK, so it's not that you do not have a shell
[17:10] <sileni> mneptok: no
[17:10] <windparadise> Hello, pls anyone used DTC from GPLhost before? I am under fire
[17:10] <mneptok> sileni: bizarre
[17:11] <mneptok> sileni: look at the server's ssh logs and see what they say
[17:11] <lafon> anyone know what the tp-link usb wireless drivers are?
[17:11] <emera> Hey guys
[17:12] <mneptok> lafon: they're drivers for USB wireless devices?  O:)
[17:12] <lafon> mneptok: yup
[17:12] <neckoox> hi all . does anybody know how how i can  forward DNS requests incoming to my computers' local network IP ( and port 53 ) to another port on 127.0.0.1 ?
[17:12] <lafon> mneptok: I don't have a hardwire connection
[17:12] <emera> Can anybody give me a little help with an issue I am having with installing libgtksourceview 1.0-0
[17:13] <glebihan> emera, if I'm not mistaken this has been deprecated for quite some time now
[17:13] <Pici> emera: Why 1.0-0?
[17:13] <emera> @gleb, I need it to run a certain program.
[17:14] <emera> None of the others will work
[17:14] <emera> The program is 99% unheard of to most of you here though D:
[17:14] <dmb__> hihi
[17:14] <dmb__> irssi in screen :-)
[17:14] <sbguy> Hi everyone.
[17:14] <oneq> Hello! Are there any programs for Ubuntu like the Osx grapher? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grapher)
[17:14] <dmb__> OK, I see the 'keep in launcher' option
[17:14] <jolaren> HellHello. Can someone please help me on how to make a file undeleteable? I'm running Pessulus in a kiosk and I want to make a .desktop file on my desktop undeleteable.. how to?
[17:14] <dmb__> clicked on the terminal icon
[17:15] <jacquesdupontd> guys , do you think it should be possible to dpkg reconfigure gconf ?
[17:15] <brontosaurusrex> dmb__, solved?
[17:15] <dmb__> brontosaurusrex: I think so
[17:15] <dmb__> just expected something on right mouse click ;-)
[17:15] <sbguy> Simple question really, can anyone explain why my copying to flash drives are getting slower and slower on 10.04LTS?
[17:15] <dmb__> can I put the launcher elsewhere?
[17:16] <glebihan> emera, I cannot be sure, but I think you have very little change of making it work
[17:16] <dmb__> what is it called, the thing on the right by default?
[17:16] <glebihan> s/change/chance
[17:16] <emera> D: Hmmz
[17:16] <dmb__> sorry, its left by default
[17:16] <dmb__> the dash?
[17:16] <jolaren> How do I protect file from beeing thrown in paper bin by current user?
[17:17] <Dark_Apostrophe> Hello, I'm planning to do a dual boot install of Ubuntu on this Win7 laptop. I'm assuming the installer has automatic GRUB MBR installation and configuration, right? Also, this laptop has nVidia Optimus GPU switching (doesn't really work well, even in Windows) - how will this affect the outcome? I don't use it for heavy 3D or anything, so I'd be fine running on just the Intel GPU
[17:17] <windparadise> hello, pls how do I locate a folder name?
[17:17] <Fredman> Hi Guys! I just installed Ubuntu 11.10 on my Macbook 1,1 using an SSD I had lying around. Pretty nice, but the only problem seems to be the iSight webcam. The installation guides are fine and the firmware has been extracted, but the thing doesn work. And isn't visible via lsusb...any ideas?
[17:17] <windparadise> like locate /foldername
[17:17] <windparadise> ?
[17:17] <windparadise> what is the appropraite command for it ?
[17:17] <lafon> so anyone know where i can find the tp-link drivers from another computer?
[17:17] <brontosaurusrex> dmb__, that would be sin, must stay on the left
[17:18] <dmb__> ok, next bugbear^H^H^H^H^H^H^H quetstion, I like to use ctrl-f and ctrl-b in the terminal to move around my command line, to do this, I have to switch off the menu
[17:18] <lantizia> Can I check a users password is correct via a script without hashing it and comparing it to shadow somehow?
[17:18] <zykotick9> windparadise, you could use "find / -iname foldername" to get rid of the errors you could use "find / -iname foldername 2>/dev/null"
[17:18] <dmb__> brontosaurusrex: just wondering if I could have two, one showing open windows, and one showing menus, application launchers and gadgets
[17:18] <dmb__> one at the top and one at the bottom
[17:18] <dmb__> bot vis all the time... etc... basically... gnome-pannel, which wasn't broken
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[17:18] <sbguy> Simple question really, can anyone explain why my copying to flash drives are getting slower and slower on 10.04LTS?
[17:19] <emera> I stupidly pressed the remove windows option when installing ubuntu
[17:19] <dmb__> sbguy: bites get old
[17:19] <Dark_Apostrophe> Anyone?
[17:19] <dmb__> how do I 'turn off the menu' on terminals?
[17:19] <dmb__> cus I want to use ctrl-f/b to move around the cli
[17:19] <sbguy> I understand that, but I can plug in a brand new flash, and it's still slow.
[17:20] <dmb__> rmb->profiles->preferences->...
[17:20] <dmb__> that is where 'turn off the menu' used to live
[17:20] <emera> @anyone Is there any method I can follow to reinstall windows on my PC, since I have an ISO on my ubuntu pc atm
[17:20] <dmb__> hrm... I see 'show menubar by default in new terminals' and it's unchecked
[17:20] <beefman> question on openvpn: i got the config file from new employer, and when i start it, all my inet stuff goes through it (or tries) and i can't get anything else.  how do i tell it to use my normal connection for everything not on the vpn?
[17:20] <dmb__> but still ctrl-f/b seem to open the menu
[17:21] <dmb__> how do I disable this behaviour?
[17:21] <dmb__> in gnome-terminal(?)?
[17:21] <Luminary> gnome terminal r rly ＼(　*¯∇¯)ノ ☆ＦＡＧＧＯＴ～☆
[17:21] <dmb__> checking 'show menubar by default in new terminals' actually has no effect
[17:21] <Luminary> plz use roxterm it r ＼(　*¯∇¯)ノ ☆ＦＡＢＵＬＯＵＳ～☆
[17:22] <dmb__> Luminary: what should I use?
[17:22] <dmb__> oh
[17:22] <dmb__> yup, toggling 'show menubar' has no effect
[17:22]  * dmb__ takes silence to be a tacit admision of failure ;-)
[17:22] <glebihan> dmb__, I think it's a known bug in gnome-terminal
[17:22] <dmb__> glebihan: ty
[17:23] <dmb__> got ticket id?
[17:23] <sbguy> So, no real help then? Thank you for patronising me!!!!
[17:23] <dmb__> where is the tracker to begin with?
[17:23] <glebihan> dmb__, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appmenu-gtk/+bug/787465
[17:23] <JasonGriffee> has anyone been able to make skype run under 11.10?
[17:24] <dmb__> glebihan: ty
[17:24] <sevist> Ïðèâåò íàðîä
[17:24] <dmb__> how do I re-order launchers in the panel?
[17:24] <dmb__> glebihan: that workaround looks scary...
[17:24] <dmb__> what does it do?
[17:25] <[_miT_]> dmb__: you should just be able to click and drag/drop
[17:25] <dmb__> [_miT_]: what?
[17:25] <dmb__> also... how do I stop focus follows mouse also triggering autoraise?
[17:25] <[_miT_]> <       dmb__> | how do I re-order launchers in the panel?
[17:25] <[_miT_]> <     [_miT_]> | dmb__: you should just be able to click and drag/drop
[17:25] <dmb__> [_miT_]: ah, ty
[17:26] <dmb__> [_miT_]: when I click on a specific item (lmb), the whole stack of items moves when I drag
[17:26] <RiXtEr-Home> hey guys, is there anyway to downgrade the kernel?
[17:27] <RiXtEr-Home> without manually recompliling it
[17:27] <dmb__> also... how do I stop focus follows mouse also triggering autoraise? Tried gnome-tweak-tool, but no joy
[17:27] <[_miT_]> dmb__: stack? what do you mean stack?
[17:27] <[_miT_]> dmb__: for instance, i just moved my chrome web browser icon to the bottom of the "list"
[17:28] <[_miT_]> click - hold - drag - release
[17:28] <dmb__> [_miT_]: the whole set of 'launchers' from 'Dash home' at the top to 'Workspace switcher' at the bottom
[17:28] <dmb__> yes
[17:28] <dmb__> everything moves
[17:28] <dmb__> oh
[17:28] <dmb__> hehe
[17:28] <JasonGriffee> has anyone been able to make skype run under 11.10?
[17:28] <dmb__> how do I change the delay on that behaviour?
[17:28] <dmb__> JasonGriffee: yes
[17:28] <dmb__> I have it running now
[17:28] <JasonGriffee> how?
[17:29] <gvfs-R0AR> anyone in here well versed with gvfs ?
[17:29] <dmb__> JasonGriffee: no idea, installed under the previous version and now it still works
[17:29] <dmb__> my camera is borked though... not sure why
[17:29] <dmb__> it was working 'out of the box' but when I tried to kill unity and get a sensible wm, it died
[17:30] <haploid> so, after installing 11.10, I no longer have access to the system settings I used to.  in appearance, for instance, I can alter baxkground and theme - that's it.  not fonts or animations, or effects, or anything.  why was configurability REDUCED ?
[17:30] <bekks> haploid: You have to ask the gnome devs ;)
[17:30] <dmb__> haploid: you don't want to do that
[17:30] <dmb__> unity has decided what you want
[17:31] <devian> zykotick9 found a way http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2011/01/08/ubuntu-cleanup-how-to-remove-all-unused-linux-kernel-headers-images-and-modules/
[17:31] <brontosaurusrex> dmb__, haploid thats actually a gnome part of the story i think
[17:31]  * dmb__ blames whoever is at hand ;-)
[17:32] <haploid> damn, ok
[17:32] <JasonGriffee> dmb_, It just is that I couldn't get it to work in 11.04 and 11.10, which is why i dont use ubuntu at the moment. I would love to use it, but skype is the one "mission critical" app that I need.
[17:32] <dmb__> JasonGriffee: what did you try, tbh I forgot how I got it working
[17:33] <dmb__> but I don't remember it being a big problem
[17:33] <JasonGriffee> dmb_, what?
[17:33] <dmb__> JasonGriffee: how have you tried to install Skype?
[17:34] <JasonGriffee> dmb_, ubuntu software center
[17:34] <dmb__> JasonGriffee: and what error did you see?
[17:34] <dAnjou> hi, i use xfce (previously gnome 2). in gnome 2 i had chromium as default browser, now i switched over to firefox. although i set "x-www-browser" and "gnome-www-browser" and the setting in this fancy GUI dialog to firefox, guake still opens links in chromium. any ideas?
[17:35] <dmb__> skype --version # Skype 2.2.0.35
[17:35] <JasonGriffee> dmb_, it wasn't a error problem, the GUI refused to respond
[17:35] <dmb__> JasonGriffee: the skype gui? hrm... what wm?
[17:36] <JasonGriffee> dmb_, wm?
[17:36] <dmb__> JasonGriffee: can I try calling you now?
[17:36] <dmb__> what windows manager? Ubuntu 3D?
[17:36] <RiXtEr-Home> JasonGriffee, window manager... default is unity
[17:36] <dmb__> try Ubuntu 2D
[17:36] <RiXtEr-Home> 2d or 3d ;)
[17:37] <RiXtEr-Home> dmb__, on your camera issue, have you tried to go back a kernel?
[17:37] <dmb__> RiXtEr-Home: no I haven't
[17:37] <dmb__> I'm amazed its 3.0 already
[17:37] <lacrymology> I'm trying to restore grub, but my old install is 64bits and the livecd I have is 32 bits, and I cannot chroot into it, can someone give me a hand
[17:37] <RiXtEr-Home> dmb__, I am trying that right now to see if it helps my 3d issues
[17:37] <lacrymology> ?
[17:37] <dmb__> It's like we're living in the future!
[17:37] <RiXtEr-Home> dmb__, i remember 2.2 still..
[17:38] <dmb__> RiXtEr-Home: let me know if your camera starts working
[17:38] <dmb__> Could it have been 1.8 when I started linuxing?
[17:38] <JasonGriffee> dmb_, I don't have ubuntu atm, I was hoping to see if there was a easy fix. I need skype on saturday so i can't have massive downtime.
[17:38] <dmb__> I guess 1997
[17:38] <dmb__> JasonGriffee: sorry, I can't really help. It works here on 11.10 for me
[17:38] <RiXtEr-Home> dmb__, I don't have a cam, I am downgrading to see if compiz keeps taking quite a bit of cpu, and see if my opengl games work any better.
[17:39] <dmb__> RiXtEr-Home: yeah, just killed compiz here
[17:39] <dmb__> vowed away from 3D ;-)
[17:39] <japro> so i want a dual boot setup with windows and ubuntu and have a fresh system with an SSD and a HD... is the preferred route still to first install windows and then repartition in the ubuntu install?
[17:39] <RiXtEr-Home> heh
[17:39] <dmb__> vowed away from unity... but seems I've been bashed with a digital cudgil
[17:39] <RiXtEr-Home> dmb__, I am more doing it to see if my games start working again.
[17:39] <dmb__> RiXtEr-Home: did you look into getting your drivers working?
[17:40] <dmb__> RiXtEr-Home: I'ts been ages since I compiled a kern, but it's fun
[17:40] <RiXtEr-Home> dmb__, they work, the 3d stuff is just VERY choppy
[17:40] <dmb__> hrm
[17:40] <urlin2u> japro, do a custom install with windows you wont have to resize it, otherwise resize it with its partitioner.
[17:40] <RiXtEr-Home> dmb__, I am grabbing the deb from natty for the kernel
[17:40] <fosburg> Is there an application to check the Ubuntu OS for problems and fix the problem(s)?
[17:40] <JasonGriffee> dmb_, do you know anyone that installed it on a fresh install of ubuntu 11.10 and it worked out of the box?
[17:40] <RiXtEr-Home> dmb__, http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty-updates/amd64/linux-image-2.6.38-12-generic/download
[17:40] <dmb__> fosburg: not that I know of
[17:41] <dmb__> JasonGriffee: I'm willing to try uninstalling it now
[17:41] <dmb__> JasonGriffee: if you like
[17:41] <RiXtEr-Home> JasonGriffee, don't be misled, 11.10 is a HUGE step in the right direction
[17:41] <urlin2u> japro, W7 has a partitioner, if that's is your install
[17:41] <RiXtEr-Home> JasonGriffee, They may have jumpped the gun a bit on releasing it though.
[17:41] <Deformative> For some reason my entire synaptic now has duplicates with the suffix :i386.
[17:41] <Deformative> Why?
[17:41] <fosburg> dmb--thanks for the good news
[17:42] <dmb__> Removing skype ...
[17:42] <arooni-mobile> for gnome-shell; how do i switch the number of workplaces
[17:42] <urlin2u> arooni-mobile, they exspand as you fill them.
[17:42] <dmb__> fosburg: about the 'fix any problem' app ;-)
[17:43] <dmb__> fosburg: you should write it, it would be great
[17:43] <urlin2u> arooni-mobile, fill 4 and a 5th will appear
[17:43] <dmb__> JasonGriffee: works
[17:43] <JasonGriffee> RiXtEr-Home, i'm not arguing, I played with it on release day i those it was neat. I just have to ensure that skype will function
[17:43] <JasonGriffee> dmb_, ty
[17:43] <BangBusRUs> hi i just installed ubuntu 11.10 on my thinkpad t61, but the touchpad isnt working, what should i do?
[17:43] <fosburg> I'm a user of applications--not to computer smart
[17:43] <dmb__> BangBusRUs: install the drivers
[17:44] <RiXtEr-Home> BangBusRUs, buy a mouse.
[17:44] <dmb__> fosburg: oh
[17:44] <RiXtEr-Home> BangBusRUs, ;)
[17:44] <BangBusRUs> How where from?
[17:44] <dmb__> BangBusRUs: right, what RiXtEr-Home said
[17:44] <RiXtEr-Home> haha
[17:44] <urlin2u> BangBusRUs, have you looked in the mouse control there are pad controls there?
[17:44] <dmb__> a usb or ps2 mouse is usefull when upgrading
[17:44] <BangBusRUs> i have i mouse
[17:44] <BangBusRUs> but i want to learn how to use ubuntu..
[17:44] <RiXtEr-Home> o_O
[17:45] <BangBusRUs> let me look
[17:45] <dmb__> BangBusRUs: go for a less bleating edge release, you may have better look
[17:45] <dmb__> BangBusRUs: but seriously, someone here should be able to help you get your hardware working
[17:45] <dmb__> how do I start a gnome-shell session?
[17:46] <urlin2u> dmb, you have it installed?
[17:46] <urlin2u> dmb__, you have it installed?
[17:46] <BangBusRUs> brb
[17:46] <dmb__> urlin2u: yes
[17:46] <dmb__> I don't see it listed at login though...
[17:46] <JasonGriffee> dmb_, my main issue though was not it loading, but rather i couldn't make or receive calls. chatting was impossible
[17:46] <urlin2u> dmb__, at the login you have a desktop choice.
[17:47] <dmb__> urlin2u: what is it called?
[17:47] <urlin2u> dmb__, it look like a big asterix
[17:47] <Chofoteddy> Puro idioma inglés xD en Ubuntu existe algún programa de apoyo ?
[17:47] <dmb__> urlin2u: right, but what is gnome-shell called?
[17:47] <urlin2u> dmb__, gnome
[17:47] <dmb__> JasonGriffee: makeing a test call now, seems to work fine
[17:47] <iceroot> dmb__: gnome3
[17:47] <dmb__> urlin2u: ok
[17:48] <dmb__> wut
[17:48] <BarkingFish> !es | Chofoteddy
[17:48] <dmb__> JasonGriffee: yup
[17:48] <dmb__> JasonGriffee: chatting is fine too
[17:48] <dmb__> JasonGriffee: don't use Ubuntu 3D wm, and see if it improves
[17:48] <wxl> hey folks trying to get an ubuntu virtual machine's (virtual box) virtual console working. i have this problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/72867/help-fixing-virtual-console-tty1-6-under-virtualbox .. did some troubleshooting with #vbox and no issues there.. no problems with debian.. problem lies in ubuntu somewhere
[17:48] <Chofoteddy> ubottu: Gracias
[17:48] <JasonGriffee> dmb_, on linux-winows call?
[17:49] <dmb__> JasonGriffee: I'm on 11.10, and I just called the test call center
[17:49] <dmb__> so... on gnome-shell.... how do I add launchers to the panel?
[17:49] <wxl> and for that matter "debug nosplash" results in a blank screen until the display manager pops up
[17:49] <JasonGriffee> dmb_, and it was issue free?
[17:49] <dmb__> how do I disable graphical boot?
[17:49] <dmb__> JasonGriffee: yes, more or less
[17:49] <bahamas> hello. i'm trying to setup my wireless card to work properly with ubuntu 11.04. it's a broadcom 4313. at the moment, the listed driver is brcm80211 and a dmesg | tail gives me wl0: fifo 0: descriptor error
[17:50] <bahamas> [  324.975149] wl0: fatal error, reinitializing
[17:50] <dmb__> some quality drop out in teh call, but nothing too bad
[17:50] <bahamas> [  324.975149] wl0: fatal error, reinitializing
[17:51] <bahamas> wl0 is what showed up as my driver before i uninstalled Broadcom STA
[17:51] <MrGizmo757> i am having an error when i open Kden live.    File '/home/matt/%i' is not readable        dose anybody know how to fix it?      Kdenlive seems to be working i just have this error.
[17:51] <urlin2u> ! broadcom | bahamas
[17:51] <dAnjou> hi, i use xfce (previously gnome 2). in gnome 2 i had chromium as default browser, now i switched over to firefox. although i set "x-www-browser" and "gnome-www-browser" and the setting in this fancy GUI dialog to firefox, guake still opens links in chromium. any ideas?
[17:52] <urlin2u> !broadcom
[17:52] <BangBusRUs> Ok thanks i got it working thanks
[17:52] <thomas__> Hi everyone. Have a problem with Oneiric. I dont have the left menu (see : http://postimage.org/image/a3isjuro7/). I have an ati radeon HD 4870. Did you see something similar ?
[17:52] <RiXtEr-Home> BangBusRUs, http://friendly.ubuntu.com/11.10/LENOVO/ThinkPad%20T61/I:Bq8Bop:RL:BHe:CLc:B9ip:EZS:I8g:BEV:I8g/devices/
[17:53] <RiXtEr-Home> looks like the trackpoint is unkown
[17:53] <RiXtEr-Home> they typically function like a ps2 mouse though
[17:53] <urlin2u> thomas__, fresh install upgrade did it ever work?
[17:53] <wxl> no one running ubuntu in virtualbox?
[17:53] <BangBusRUs> Now one last thing, would it be possible to move the bar at the top to the bottom? And the side bar somehow integrated with the other bar?
[17:54] <dmb__> how do I stop 'focus follows mouse' also 'auto-raise'ing windows?
[17:54] <bahamas> urlin2u: that page is telling me to install Broadcom STA which is not recommended by an answer i found on askubuntu
[17:54] <dmb__> unity...
[17:54] <KNUBBIG> Hey, my ubuntu doesn't boot and won't give me any error message. How to disable the graphical boot in the GRUB cmd?
[17:55] <thomas__> urlin2u, i did it but nothing change :s
[17:55] <urlin2u> bahamas, you going to believe askubuntu a 3rd party or the ubuntu wiki, personally I would follow the wiki you can remove what you have done, not sure  myself never had a broadcom card,
[17:55] <BangBusRUs> thanks RiXtEr-Home I got it working...
[17:55] <RiXtEr-Home> BangBusRUs, what did you do?
[17:56] <BangBusRUs> just restarted, i downloaded the updates, just didnt restart my t61 after the updates were finished lol
[17:56] <RiXtEr-Home> ah :)
[17:57] <conntrack> yes ah :)
[17:57] <gulzar> what is middle-click? I have mouse with 2 buttons and one wheel in center.
[17:57] <gulzar> what is middle-click? I have mouse with 2 buttons and one wheel in center.
[17:57] <wxl> gulzar: try the wheel
[17:57] <KNUBBIG> gulzar: click the wheel
[17:57] <jrib> gulzar: sometimes you can click the wheel.  If you have the setting enabled, you can right click and mouse click at the same time
[17:57] <KNUBBIG> Hey, my ubuntu doesn't boot and won't give me any error message. How to disable the graphical boot in the GRUB cmd?
[17:57] <jrib> gulzar: sometimes you can click the wheel.  If you have the setting enabled, you can right click and left click at the same time
[17:57] <japro> how can i show the actual cpu frequencies?
[17:57] <BangBusRUs> the 11.10  build is really cool... no messing about it just gets it done in no time lol
[17:58] <nagappan> any one noticing this ?
[17:58] <nagappan> W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_oneiric_main_binary-amd64_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[17:58] <KNUBBIG> No messages at all and it just stops booting, nice
[17:58] <gulzar> jrib: Thank You
[17:59] <gulzar> KNUBBIG: wxl : Thank You
[17:59] <BangBusRUs> Is there a way to move the bar at the top to the bottom?
[17:59] <tobi_> Hi
[17:59] <tobi_> I have a problem with my X settings
[17:59] <brontosaurusrex> wxl, works here, i did an install with guest os: win7 and OSX
[18:00] <japro> can i show the actual cpu frequencies somehow?
[18:00] <tobi_> I only have 640x480 but my monitor can 1920x1200
[18:00] <japro> powertop just tells me "turbo mode"
[18:00] <perlsaiyan> is there a good channel to help troubleshoot pam_check_host_attr using ldap authentication?
[18:00] <pooky1> Guys, did anyone see this fatal error before? "Kernel panic: not syncing - fatal exception in interrupt"
[18:00] <tobi_> and I cant change that in the GUI
[18:01] <brontosaurusrex> wxl, check the settings maybe, give it more than 512 megs of ram and such
[18:01] <tobi_> where can I find informations how to fix it
[18:01] <EuroNerd> Do some of you guys use two monitors with your Ubuntu?  I just switched from one to two and responsiveness suffered pretty badly.
[18:01] <KNUBBIG> Is there any way to disable the splash screen and see the textual output?
[18:01] <zykotick9> tobi_, what graphics card are you using?  "lspci | grep -i vga" if you aren't sure.
[18:02] <japro> EuroNerd, it always worked flawlessly for me
[18:02] <japro> well apart from some applications behaving slightly weird with multiple x-screens
[18:02] <xrdodrx> EuroNerd, of course it did, you're now asking your GPU to do double what it did before, how old is it?
[18:02] <zykotick9> KNUBBIG, remove "quiet splash" from /etc/default/grub then run "sudo update-grub"
[18:02] <EuroNerd> xrdorx, poor excuse, in Windows 7 it works fine.
[18:02] <KNUBBIG> zykotick9: thanks!
[18:03] <tobi_> japro: nvidia GeForce FX 5200 (old)
[18:03] <dAnjou> kind of solved the guake/xfce/browser problem: http://guake.org/ticket/262
[18:03] <japro> do you have nvidia drivers installed?
[18:03] <EuroNerd> japro, do you use two monitors of the same resolution?
[18:03] <tobi_> japro: and I have instaled the nvidiadriver
[18:03] <EuroNerd> xrdodrx, poor excuse, in Windows 7 it works fine.
[18:04] <mordonez> hi guys
[18:04] <japro> EuroNerd, well it depends i use multi monitors in all kinds of configurations
[18:04] <mordonez> how can I add a workspace on ubuntu 11.10?
[18:04] <ForXDoY> Hello :) I'm sorry for the bother, but can you tell me if there is any difference to using Ctrl+Alt+SysRq+K and plain old Ctrl+Alt+Backspace? (in case of a system freeze)
[18:04] <mordonez> I would like to have 6 instead of 4
[18:04] <thomas__> Hi everyone. Have a problem with Oneiric. I dont have the left menu (see : http://postimage.org/image/a3isjuro7/). I have an ati radeon HD 4870. My system is updated/upgraded. Did you see something similar ?
[18:04] <xrdodrx> EuroNerd, I heard you the first time ;)
[18:04] <zykotick9> mordonez, ccsm / General / Desktop Size tab
[18:04] <japro> i have a 1080 p screen that works ok with my big laptop (GTX260) and even with my netbook
[18:04] <EuroNerd> xrdodrx, ok, wanted to make sure, cuz i misspelled your nick
[18:05] <xrdodrx> EuroNerd, here's a trick for you: type the first few letters of anyone's nickname and press the tab key and it will be autocompleted :)
[18:05] <KNUBBIG> Is there an issue with the up-to-date 11.10 and the non-free radeon drivers?
[18:05] <EuroNerd> xrdodrx, cool, thx
[18:05] <mordonez> perfect man , thank you so much!
[18:05] <mordonez> thanks zykotick9
[18:05] <halomom> anyone know how to make an ISO and turn it into a directory?
[18:06] <tobi_> japro: I've installed the driver version 173.14.30
[18:06] <zykotick9> halomom, mount the iso then copy the files to a directory you create (to mount ISO see "/msg ubottu iso")
[18:06] <Can> halomom: you can extract it with a program like power iso
[18:06] <jwtiyar> its possible to run .dmg file in ubuntu?
[18:06] <japro> i think that is pretty old (285 is current or so)
[18:06] <bekks> jwtiyar: No.
[18:06] <japro> tobi_, do you use unity/compiz?
[18:06] <ForXDoY> halomom: you can also make an ISO using Brasero Disc Burner
[18:07] <wxl> brontosaurusrex: you mean your HOST os is win or os x?
[18:07] <tobi_> japro: yes
[18:07] <jwtiyar> bekks, why? they both based on linux/FreeBSD
[18:07] <brontosaurusrex> wxl, yes
[18:07] <bekks> jwtiyar: Why not? It is an Apple Inc. proprietary format nowadays.
[18:07] <brontosaurusrex> wxl, guest is 11.10 of course (64 bit)
[18:08] <halomom> ForXDoY, and to make it a directory?
[18:08] <wxl> brontosaurusrex: technically i'm trying to run a lubuntu guest
[18:08] <xrdodrx> jwtiyar, :| FreeBSD has absolutely nothing to do with dmg (Apple's Disk Image), and Linux is not BSD...
[18:08] <japro> tobi_, i use metacity, since compiz tends to mess with my opengl stuff
[18:08] <xrdodrx> And OS X is hardly BSD either :P
[18:08] <wxl> brontosaurusrex: alloted 512mb to it which should be sufficient
[18:08] <japro> also it makes my netbook WAY more responsive
[18:08] <jwtiyar> bekks, its not Apple its FreeBSD
[18:08] <tobi_> japro: how can I change it?
[18:08] <bekks> jwtiyar: And BSD isnt Linux.
[18:08] <zykotick9> xrdodrx, oh OSX is an offical BSD
[18:09] <brontosaurusrex> wxl, also disable 3d and 2d acceleration
[18:09] <japro> tobi_, try logging with classic - no effects or so to try it
[18:09] <wxl> brontosaurusrex: there's a though
[18:09] <zykotick9> xrdodrx, darwin i think they call it
[18:09] <ForXDoY> halomom: you mean mounting it to a directory? Just try what zykotick9 said
[18:09] <wxl> uhhh
[18:09] <wxl> s/a/that :D
[18:09] <nww> Hello can I run a email server on ubuntu 11.10, that does not need a password for the email account, I have some network smnp that does email alerting but the software does not have a place for password just un  ?.... p.s. I'm new to ubuntu thank you
[18:09] <perlsaiyan> I have pam_check_host_attr set to yes, but it does not seem to matter -- any ldap user can login to any host
[18:10] <wxl> brontosaurusrex: they're both disabled
[18:10] <bekks> nww: That is called an "open relay" and you are adviced to NOT do so.
[18:10] <jwtiyar> bekks, so both are UNIX
[18:10] <nww> ohhh.
[18:10] <wxl> bekks what are you doing here? :D
[18:10] <xrdodrx> jwtiyar, this page might help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManageDiscImages#DMG_Images , you can access the files in the DMG archive but of course cannot install it :)
[18:10] <hdon-> hi all :) i want to dump the class name of the active X window. but i cannot put my cursor over it. need a timer or a keyboard shortcut. can anyone help?
[18:10] <salah> Hi, a quick question: is there any way to install a minimal Unity? (without shotwell, libreoffice etc)
[18:10] <brontosaurusrex> wxl, and #vbox people said what?
[18:10] <bekks> wxl: The same as you do ;)
[18:10] <reisio> hdon-: sleep 3s &&
[18:10] <zykotick9> jwtiyar, technically neither BSD or Linux are Unix
[18:10] <halomom> ForXDoY zykotick9, I a amking an ISO of a CD, and I want to mount the image I'm creating, not burn it
[18:11] <hdon-> reisio, i know how to do that i don't know how to capture the X window info i want :(
[18:11] <hdon-> thanks anyway
[18:11] <bekks> brontosaurusrex: It might be a framebuffer/splash issue for him.
[18:11] <zykotick9> !iso | halomom
[18:11] <reisio> hdon-: oh, um, wmctrl or xdpyinfo or something
[18:11] <salah> !minimal
[18:11] <ForXDoY> halomom: I'll quote the bot for you: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[18:11] <wxl> brontosaurusrex: what bekks said (he's the #vbox person) :D
[18:11] <EuroNerd> another multi-monitor question:   When I watch a movie on screen A and start doing something on screen B, on screen A the top Ubuntu bar appears (the one with clock and off switch etc.), obstructing part of the image. Can I prevent it?
[18:11] <reisio> hdon-: xdpyinfo | grep -i focus
[18:12] <reisio> hdon-: what're you up to?
[18:12] <hdon-> reisio, thanks :)
[18:12] <EuroNerd> (on screen A the movie is in full-screen)
[18:12] <brontosaurusrex> bekks, wxl ok.
[18:12] <skoreme> hi ppl. any idea how can i boost my graphic card i think it doesnt works fine. i got radeon 9600 with 128mb and even small games i freezes
[18:12] <reisio> skoreme: what driver are you using
[18:12] <hdon-> reisio, i am using Firebug, and it open a sort of tool tip window, and steals focus, which makes my mouse hovers not be detected anymore (the window is essentially a tool tip related to what i am mousing over, and it is seriously cramping my style right now)
[18:12] <hdon-> reisio, so i want to configure compiz to never focus on the window
[18:13] <skoreme> i downloaded some ati tools and opengl tools
[18:13] <reisio> hdon-: I thought firebug only ran in Firefox
[18:13] <[_miT_]> hmm, just started getting a "could not call home" info msg in my console
[18:13] <skoreme> referendet by ubuntu
[18:13] <[_miT_]> er, wrong chan!
[18:13] <[_miT_]> lol
[18:13] <bekks> nww: Please dont open unasked private chats. Ask in this room.
[18:13] <wxl> brontosaurusrex, bekks it is interesting that there are other ubuntu users with the same problem in 11.10 .. something in the change from 11.04 for them. mine was a fresh 11.10 install so can't make a connection there.
[18:13] <skoreme> i cant find any info in sysytem setting
[18:13] <reisio> skoreme: run sudo lspci -k | less, then type '/VGA' and hit enter
[18:13] <skoreme> thank iam fresh thx for help
[18:14] <zykotick9> reisio, FYI lspci doesn't need sudo
[18:14] <thomas__> any idea about this -> http://postimage.org/image/a3isjuro7/
[18:14] <hdon-> reisio, yes i am running firefox
[18:14] <halomom> ForXDoY, I just figured I'd grab the both of you at once. thanks guys (I've never mounted an ISO o linux, just windows)
[18:14] <hdon-> reisio, but it does create other windows sometimes
[18:14] <ForXDoY> halomom: you're welcome :)
[18:14] <reisio> zykotick9: I try not to store all the Ubuntu irregularities in my head
[18:14] <skoreme> GA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AQ [Radeon 9600]
[18:14] <skoreme> 	Subsystem: C.P. Technology Co. Ltd Device 2075
[18:14] <skoreme> 	Kernel driver in use: radeon
[18:14] <skoreme> 	Kernel modules: radeon, radeonfb
[18:14] <reisio> hdon-: huh
[18:14] <reisio> skoreme: okay, radeon
[18:15] <zykotick9> reisio, well, try not to suggest sudo unless it's needed
[18:15] <reisio> skoreme: you could try fglrx instead, possibly
[18:15] <reisio> zykotick9: what does it matter?
[18:15] <skoreme> reisio mind if i pm?
[18:15] <zykotick9> reisio, you should learn to use the system properly (and you should give proper advice)
[18:15] <reisio> skoreme: why would I
[18:15] <hdon-> reisio, want to hear something even stranger? i just really looked at that window for the first time and realized it had all the information i wanted to see, and was doing it a stupider way. not doing it that way anymore, this problem is 99% less annoying. good day!
[18:15] <reisio> zykotick9: there's nothing improper about sudo lspci
[18:16] <EuroNerd> what do you call the top bar in ubuntu - the one with clock, the off switch etc. ?
[18:16] <reisio> hdon-: :D
[18:16] <zykotick9> reisio, expect for the fact that you are using sudo unnecessarily
[18:16] <ForXDoY> In case of a system freeze, where xkill doesn't help, is there any difference to using Ctrl+Alt+SysRq+K instead of plain old Ctrl+Alt+Backspace? Which is preferred?
[18:16] <wxl> sudo luke i am your father
[18:16] <reisio> zykotick9: the end result being nothing bad
[18:16] <zykotick9> ForXDoY, it's just ALT+SYSRQ+K
[18:17] <zykotick9> ForXDoY, and xkill is to kill an app - not all Xorg... you can sometimes use kill/killall when xkill fails
[18:17] <ForXDoY> zykotick9: I sometimes have to use Ctrl as well. But anyway, which of the two would be preferred or are they the same?
[18:17] <wxl> just make sure you disconnect your computer frmo the network before you start sudoing everything under the sun, reisio .. at least if you value it
[18:17] <reisio> ForXDoY: backspace is disabled by default these days is all
[18:17] <reisio> ForXDoY: stopping gdm would probably be simplest/kindest
[18:17] <zykotick9> ForXDoY, same difference
[18:18] <reisio> wxl: lspci is not everything under the sun
[18:18] <ForXDoY> zykotick9 and reisio: thank you guys :)
[18:18] <wxl> reisio: by extension you might as well sudo ls and sudo cd, too
[18:18] <reisio> wxl: not really
[18:18] <salah> is there any way to install a minimal Unity? (without shotwell, libreoffice, 100 000 unused drivers etc)
[18:19] <xrdodrx> ForXDoY, You can do `sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration` to make ctrl-alt-backspace kill the X server again [it's the last question] :)
[18:19] <wxl> oh i know! sudo login!
[18:19] <reisio> wxl: ls and cd do not require root in other distros, lspci does
[18:19] <Jinxed-> whats the best guide to follow for a lamp install on ubuntu 11.04
[18:19] <reisio> salah: if you install from the alternate install image, I think you might have the option of installing without the preinstalled desktop stuff
[18:19] <wxl> reisio: oh get really fancy and start sudoing gui apps; that's always fun
[18:20] <zykotick9> Jinxed-, you could check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[18:20] <halomom> ForXDoY, it doesn't work, it ees it as a USB drive, not a CD
[18:20] <halomom> sees*
[18:20] <reisio> wxl: what's funny about this conversation is that between us I'm the only one who's used more than one distro
[18:20] <ForXDoY> xrdodrx: thanks, I already found the GUI for enabling it though :)
[18:20] <carl_> lu
[18:20] <wxl> reisio: that's interesting. your psychic abilitities are failing you, unfortunately.
[18:20] <salah> reisio, I have already done that, but now I want to install Unity. And I am not interested in installing so much drivers and applications I never will need :)
[18:20] <reisio> wxl: psychic abilities don't factor into it
[18:21] <reisio> salah: which ones don't you want, exactly?
[18:21] <reisio> salah: I doubt unity itself deps in libreoffice...
[18:21] <ForXDoY> halomom: I thought you wanted to see it as a  directory?
[18:21] <lordjj> Any drawbacks to using Ubuntu 64-bit?
[18:21] <halomom> ForXDoY, oh, sorry, no I want it mounted like a CD, in a dirctory
[18:21] <reisio> lordjj: nope
[18:22] <salah> for example: installing unity gives you xorg, xorg gives you... I don't know how many, but drivers for intel, nvidia etc etc I never will need
[18:22] <lordjj> Why does the Ubuntu website recommend 32-bit to 64 bit?
[18:22] <Leao> Help me please, i installed new Radeon graphics drivers and my ubuntu is not starting up (writing from win 7)
[18:22] <zykotick9> salah, does installing the "unity" package pull in the stuff you don't want?
[18:22] <reisio> lordjj: so they don't have to explain the difference
[18:22] <zykotick9> lordjj, easier for most people
[18:22] <Leao> i can only switch to CTRL F1
[18:22] <Leao> at startup
[18:22] <wxl> reisio: well then you've just assumed incorrectly
[18:22] <reisio> lordjj: so people don't ask which to use
[18:22] <salah> zykotick9, I am installing it now, i'll see :)
[18:22] <reisio> wxl: it's important to you for me to think that, isn't it :p
[18:22] <zykotick9> Leao, ctrl+alt+f1 while in X
[18:23] <ForXDoY> halomom: I would try the command: sudo mount isoimage.iso /media/cdrom0 -o loop
[18:23] <Leao> and then ?
[18:23] <ForXDoY> where isoimage.iso is the name of your ISO file
[18:23] <zykotick9> halomom, /media/cdrom0 would have to exist for ForXDoY's command to work
[18:23] <wxl> reisio: i think it's important that you don't lead people towards insecure systems-- that's the point
[18:23] <reisio> wxl: there's nothing insecure about sudo lspci
[18:24] <zykotick9> reisio, it's NOT needed - so don't use sudo there
[18:24] <Leao> Oh I get it, i have to debug the problem myself. But I'm not good with system commands.
[18:24] <Leao> How can i fix this ?
[18:24] <pcpower> I'm trying to boot the ubuntu installer off a USB drive but after the kernel messages go by, the display goes blank and nothing happens after that. what can I do?
[18:24] <Leao> There is obviously a problem with graphics drivers.
[18:24] <reisio> zykotick9: if I remember it
[18:24] <pcpower> I've tried changing the vga= kernel parameter to different values but it hasn't helped so far
[18:24] <reisio> otherwise I'll continue to put sudo before things most distros need root for
[18:24] <wxl> reisio: how many minutes is a sudo good for? i.e. how long do you retain superuser privs after one command?
[18:24] <zykotick9> pcpower, vga= is actually deprecated
[18:25] <wxl> reisio: for that matter, what is sudo?
[18:25] <halomom> zykotick9, so cd media && mkdir cdrom0 ?
[18:25] <reisio> wxl: you tell me what sudo is
[18:25] <pcpower> zykotick9: then this page should be updated: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[18:25] <halomom> zykotick9, or could I use another number, like cdrom2
[18:25] <pcpower> that's where I saw it
[18:25] <zykotick9> halomom, i'd just use " sudo mount isoimage.iso /mnt -o loop" instead
[18:25] <iceroot> reisio: wxl man sudo  says 15 minutes
[18:25] <wxl> reisio: super user do, baby. ultimate power.
[18:26] <reisio> heh
[18:26] <wxl> exactly 15 minutes.. a big 15 minute security hole. good on ya, reisio
[18:26] <halomom> zykotick9, it's for use in wine, not for linux itself. and it's being picky
[18:26] <iceroot> wxl: change it in sudoers (see man sudo)
[18:26] <reisio> iceroot: ha
[18:26] <wxl> yep!
[18:26] <pcpower> zykotick9: any ideas?
[18:26] <wxl> which your average user who accepts sudo lspci won't do..
[18:26] <reisio> wxl: and if Ubuntu users weren't constantly running sudo, I'm sure that'd matter
[18:26] <wxl> so let's perpetuate the notion
[18:26] <pcpower> I cannot find any help on the ubuntu website for how to fix it
[18:27] <halomom> pcpower, what's the ssue?
[18:27] <halomom> issue*
[18:27] <reisio> pcpower: no CD/DVD drive?
[18:27] <pcpower> halomom: I lose video when the installer boots, using USB
[18:27] <zykotick9> pcpower, have you tried nomodeset yet?
[18:27] <pcpower> zykotick9: no, how do I do that?
[18:27] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | pcpower
[18:27] <pcpower> oh it's just a kernel parameter
[18:27] <pcpower> ok
[18:27] <mfaroukg> I have many problems in the network connections in all the VPN, PROXY and the wireless ? what is going on with ubuntu 11.10???
[18:28] <halomom> zykotick9, do you think wine will accept that directory?
[18:29] <halomom> it didn't accept ~/cdmount
[18:29] <zykotick9> halomom, don't know.  I don't do wine stuff, good luck.
[18:29] <_platypus_> Could someone possibly point me in the direction of a good Unity users manual? It will be much nicer when I figure out how to use it properly.
[18:29] <mfaroukg> there are many missing packages in ubuntu 11.10
[18:29] <reisio> halomom: can change those in winecfg
[18:29] <pcpower> zykotick9: that worked, thanks
[18:30] <pcpower> just wish it was on that BootOptions page on the website
[18:30] <pcpower> I wouldn't have to ask here :)
[18:30] <halomom> reisio, I did, still wouldn't accept it, that's what the problem was
[18:30] <zykotick9> pcpower, as you've already noticed - that page needs updating
[18:30] <reisio> halomom: #winehq
[18:32] <x3qt0r> hello
[18:32] <reisio> hi
[18:32] <x3qt0r> I am not able to get  my dual monitors to run
[18:32] <x3qt0r> in separate X screen mode
[18:32] <xrdodrx> _platypus_, https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-help/index.html is the offical documentation, also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity and http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2011/04/21/the-power-user%E2%80%99s-guide-to-unity/
[18:32] <reisio> x3qt0r: with nvidia-settings?
[18:33] <x3qt0r> yes
[18:33] <x3qt0r> I adjust it like I did in 10.04
[18:33] <x3qt0r> but in 11.10
[18:33] <x3qt0r> it seems impossible
[18:33] <x3qt0r> one of the monitor stays black
[18:33] <x3qt0r> with a cross as a mouse pointer
[18:33] <lordjj> what's the difference between Ubuntu-alternate and Ubuntu-desktop?
[18:33] <reisio> fair amount of people have been having dual monitor issues with 11.10
[18:33] <halomom> 11.10 is natty, right?
[18:34] <x3qt0r> hmm
[18:34] <x3qt0r> is it unsolvable?
[18:34] <ForXDoY> halomom: no, it's oneiric
[18:34] <reisio> lordjj: less graphical, slightly more options exposed
[18:34] <Pici> lordjj: Just the installer.
[18:34] <reisio> x3qt0r: nothing's unsolvable
[18:34] <halomom> ForXDoY, ten why didn't update manager request it? *blinks*
[18:35] <x3qt0r> So whats the solution
[18:35] <reisio> x3qt0r: I'd check ubuntuforums.org first
[18:35] <x3qt0r> i did!
[18:35] <x3qt0r> I am on about it
[18:35] <halomom> x3qt0r, patience and perserverence?
[18:35] <x3qt0r> since the reslease
[18:35] <x3qt0r> release
[18:35] <x3qt0r> I know I know
[18:35] <x3qt0r> !
[18:35] <FloodBot1> x3qt0r: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:35] <mfaroukg> x3qt0r, I PRESSS CTL+F4 THEN CTL+F7 AS workaround
[18:35] <ForXDoY> halomom: request what? The update to 11.10?
[18:35] <x3qt0r> been on ubuntu since 6. 04
[18:35] <halomom> ForXDoY, yes
[18:35] <mads> question:  do i need to have "enter" of new line after inserting a command or module to be loaded en config files like  "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf" or "/etc/modules"
[18:36] <h00k> if I were to file a bug against the 'process' of using the user-switcher in the upper right corner, would I file it against one of the indicators?
[18:36] <reisio> mads: doubt it
[18:36] <salah> zykotick9, installing unity-package did not install lightdm. installing lightdm gives me xorg and all of the unnecessary package. is there any ways to skip all the drivers and just install the required vesa package?
[18:36] <x3qt0r> mfaroukg, ?
[18:36] <x3qt0r> nothing happened
[18:36] <mads> reisio i the old days it was...
[18:36] <ForXDoY> if you're not using the latest buntu, then it should be offered up in the Update Manager
[18:36] <ForXDoY> halomom: ^
[18:36] <reisio> mads: if you used vim it'd add a newline on its own
[18:37] <mfaroukg> x3qt0r, try it when screen gets blank
[18:37] <halomom> now it tells me.. when was it released?
[18:37] <mads> reisio i just use gedit
[18:37] <zykotick9> salah, doubt it.  Is storage space some a HUGE concern for you or something?  I doubt Xorg drivers will take up to much room.
[18:37] <reisio> mads: :p
[18:37] <x3qt0r> mfaroukg,  it is blank
[18:37] <x3qt0r> one of my screen IS blank
[18:38] <zykotick9> mads, i highly doubt it would matter
[18:38] <mfaroukg> x3qt0r, press ctl+F4 then ctl+F7 it will get back working
[18:38] <x3qt0r> it isnt
[18:38] <x3qt0r> =/
[18:38] <Leao> im using ubuntu 11.10 and i was trying to get my Gnome 3 shell working, i switched from unity to it but graphics were glitchy. So I uninstalled it and tried to install opensource graphics drivers. But now the OS isnt starting up. Gives [failed] loading errors on gnome display manager and a few other processes. I only have access to terminal (to everything :P)
[18:38] <Leao> Any idea on how to fix ?
[18:38] <halomom> salah, you can always rm the ones you don't need after they download
[18:38] <ForXDoY> halomom: somewhere in the middle of October, I think
[18:39] <Somelauw> Hi, I am using evince, but I usually displays pdf's black on white (high contrast) since this hurts my eyes I wonder if there is a way to make the colors easier on my eyes.
[18:39] <mads> zykotick9 thanks trying to help somebody by mailt with something that should have worked
[18:39]  * nDuff notes that when in X, it can need to be ctrl+alt+F4, not just alt+F4 as when already in a text console
[18:39] <reisio> Leao: which driver?
[18:39] <halomom> ForXDoY, odd.. cause I just installed this PC with natty last night from LTS
[18:39] <Somelauw> I only have this problem since I use this computer a lot.
[18:39] <reisio> Somelauw: evince can invert the colors
[18:40] <Leao> hmm im looking it up reisio one second
[18:40] <reisio> Somelauw: CTRL+i, or View > Inverted Colors
[18:40] <ForXDoY> halomom: might be by design, if some packages needed to be transitionally updated (in my lack of better words for it), but I'm just guessing here
[18:40] <reisio> Somelauw: also if you install the program 'xcalib', the command xcalib -i -a should toggle color inversion for your entire X
[18:40] <dikidera> Hi all
[18:41] <lordjj> I've been hearing about some motherboards overheating with newer kernel versions, can someone provide a list of affected models and tell me more about it?
[18:41] <reisio> dikidera: hiyo
[18:41] <dikidera> can anyone tell me in 11.10 how i can enable hidden files?
[18:41] <halomom> ForXDoY, eh.. no big deal I'll get around to t later then
[18:41] <halomom> dikidera, CTRL + H ?
[18:41] <lordjj> dikidera cntrl+h ??
[18:41] <reisio> lordjj: probably where ever you heard about it...
[18:41] <Somelauw> reisio: I would prefer grey on black, but maybe that is not possible yet.
[18:41] <aarkerio> hi! what is the MTA by default in Ubuntu 11.10? Exim4?
[18:41] <Somelauw> White on black is slightly better, I think.
[18:41] <reisio> Somelauw: oh I'm sure some app can do that
[18:41] <slinzex> why eye of gnome fails to remove pic? It says Cannot access to trash. Help please
[18:41] <dikidera> thanks guys, it works
[18:42] <reisio> Somelauw: if you decrease gamma with xgamma, it will become gray on black eventually
[18:42] <mfaroukg> I have many problems in the network connections in all the VPN, PROXY and the wireless ? what is going on with ubuntu 11.10??? and there are many missing packages in ubuntu 11.10 ??? and the flash blugins are missing
[18:42] <reisio> Somelauw: hrmm, no actually that doesn't seem to work
[18:43] <halomom> mfaroukg, 1: wait for people to get to you. 2: gnash works well for flash
[18:44] <lordjj> So no one's heard of the overheating problem in the new kernel...
[18:44] <reisio> I'm not sure even you have
[18:45] <lordjj> Was mentioned in an article
[18:45] <reisio> what article?
[18:45] <mfaroukg> halomom, please try http://live.sis.gov.eg/live if you have that gnash
[18:45] <lordjj> Don't recall
[18:45] <Somelauw> I just figured out pdftotext /tmp/srw11_2_solutions.pdf - | less works nice.
[18:45] <reisio> Somelauw: heh
[18:45] <ForXDoY> speaking of new kernel, are there serious known issues with Virtualbox and linux kernel 3?
[18:46] <ForXDoY> I heard of the linux devs marking VBox drivers as "crap", but don't know if there are any real issues with it
[18:46] <halomom> zykotick9, no luck, still wants the cd in the drive (mounted to cdrom1 as a cd-rom)
[18:46] <mfaroukg> halomom, it works with VLC no problem.
[18:47] <zykotick9> halomom, sorry, i don't/won't help with wine issues.  Good luck.
[18:47] <halomom> mfaroukg, video on the link?
[18:47] <Somelauw> Actually it has some problems. Nevermind I will continue reading it in inverted colors.
[18:47] <mfaroukg> halomom, it is streaming with voice only
[18:47] <Somelauw> I am too much spoiled anyway.
[18:47] <Somelauw> :P
[18:47] <halomom> mfaroukg, I heard the voice no problem
[18:47] <reisio> ForXDoY: Linux 3 is basically Linux 2.6.40
[18:48] <R_____> Has anyone been able to get wireless working properly with the HP Pavilion DV6-6140US?
[18:48] <reisio> ForXDoY: it's not magically unstable because they call it 3
[18:48] <ForXDoY> oh
[18:48] <R_____> When I scan for available wireless connections, nothing shows up
[18:48] <ForXDoY> I'll show the link of the article if I can find it
[18:48] <reisio> they're usually pretty concerned with stability regardless
[18:48] <R_____> But when I was at home it was able to connect to the wireless at my house
[18:49] <ForXDoY> reisio: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/10/11/1845226/linux-kernel-developer-declares-virtualbox-driver-crap
[18:49] <halomom> mfaroukg, where is that from?
[18:49] <mfaroukg> halomom, are you using ubuntu 11.10? and are you having the restricted packages installed for ubuntu 11.10
[18:49] <halomom> (I don't recognise the eg region)
[18:49] <mfaroukg> halomom, it is EGYPT
[18:49] <reisio> ForXDoY: that doesn't surprise me
[18:49] <ForXDoY> since that happened around the time linux 3 came out, I assumed it was related to that
[18:49] <reisio> ForXDoY: we have kvm now anyways, VirtualBox isn't going to last outside of win32 and osx
[18:50] <ForXDoY> reisio: I haven't tried kvm, but other's suggested it's a hell of a bother to get it working
[18:50] <reisio> nah
[18:50] <halomom> mfaroukg, ah.. explains why I couldn't understand a word. it is working though
[18:50] <reisio> you might want to use the frontend virt-manager, however
[18:51]  * reisio prefers the commandline
[18:51] <mfaroukg> halomom, lol hehehe :P
[18:51] <ForXDoY> reisio: I'm guessing you're probably running Arch or something like that than?
[18:51] <mfaroukg> halomom, trying to spread the ubuntu there
[18:52] <reisio> ForXDoY: from an Ubuntu user POV, I suppose something like that is accurate
[18:52] <ForXDoY> lol
[18:52] <dweez> !offtopic
[18:52] <halomom> mfaroukg, ?
[18:52] <ForXDoY> sorry
[18:52] <halomom> mfaroukg, explain plz?
[18:53] <mang0> How do i find out what version of ffmpeg I've got?
[18:53] <reisio> mang0: ffmpeg -version
[18:53] <mfaroukg> halomom, I love ubuntu that's why I like to have solutions for the problems I am facing so I tell friends about it, and make more use of it there
[18:53] <halomom> mang0, ffmpeg -v?
[18:53] <mang0> reisio: Thanks
[18:53] <mang0> halomom: reisio got it ;)
[18:53] <reisio> mang0: of course that might not do you much good :p
[18:54] <xrdodrx> reisio, what is the `something like that'? LFS? Gentoo? Slackware? :P
[18:54] <reisio> since it's all git snapshots these days
[18:54] <halomom> mfaroukg, ah.. learning so you can tech support
[18:54] <halomom> mfaroukg, smrt idea :)
[18:54] <reisio> xrdodrx: doesn't matter
[18:54] <lordjj> reisio http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/linux-kernel-power-issue-fix.html   and   http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_mobile_uffda&num=1
[18:54] <mfaroukg> halomom, of course because I am a big fan but for free :(
[18:55] <xrdodrx> reisio, well pardon me for being curious then
[18:55] <reisio> lordjj: 2.6.38
[18:55] <lordjj> (onwards)
[18:55] <reisio> xrdodrx: easy enough to find out from google
[18:55] <reisio> lordjj: has a workaround on the page, sounds like a nonissue
[18:55] <halomom> mfaroukg, oh I got a set of issues myself for my mother's pc (I'm on right now)
[18:56] <lordjj> does the workaround seem safe?
[18:56] <reisio> lordjj: http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Power_Management_Guide/ASPM.html
[18:56] <mfaroukg> halomom, good I guess you do it for free too :P
[18:57] <_platypus_> What's the easiest way to drop straight to your desktop? I used to remember the command but can't for the life of me know.
[18:57] <_platypus_> *now
[18:57] <halomom> mfaroukg, I shouldn't.. bt yea.. I do lol
[18:57] <panfist> i'm trying to enable/test/troubleshoot hdmi audio and i'm not sure where to start
[18:57] <wildc4rd> good evening all
[18:58] <reisio> hi
[18:58] <mfaroukg> halomom, do you have problem with wireless ?
[18:58] <halomom> mfaroukg, I did untill I got to maveric
[18:58] <halomom> natty works wonderfully
[18:59] <mfaroukg> halomom, should I downgrade to maveric ?
[18:59] <halomom> the LTS was bad for this pc. later versions had drivers for the hardware
[18:59] <halomom> mfaroukg, what ae you on right now?
[18:59] <dikidera> just to ask...is it possible by trying to install older linux headers, i've messed up my environment in such a way so that a compiler is saying it cant find iostream.h?
[18:59] <japro> is there some place to download 11.04 isos?
[18:59] <dikidera> and afaik, iostream.h is standard
[19:00] <xangua> japro: google ubuntu 11.04 download
[19:00] <mfaroukg> halomom, i am on ubuntu 11.10 i386
[19:00] <Leao> How do I install latest radeon drivers for ubuntu 11.10 from main terminal (the one you get at loading screen with CTRL ALT F1)
[19:00] <halomom> mfaroukg, my advice: try natty but I promise nothing
[19:01] <deper29> Hey guys, I'm having trouble installing 11.10. When I boot from USB(or DVD, doesn't seem to matter) I get three options: Install, try, or check disc. No matter which option I choose, I get a black screen after and nothing happens. I have a GeForce GTX 550 Ti Video Card and an Asus P8Z68-V LE Motherboard with a 750 W PS. Help?
[19:01] <mfaroukg> halomom, there is a problem with pppd package, I think it routs to wrong interface
[19:01] <IsmAvatar> hey folks. I have an ATI radeon x1300, but glxgears is running at 55 fps. I think the driver's no installed right. Can someone help me get it installed right?
[19:01] <japro> xangua, whoops :d i was like frantically clicking through the ubuntu website and missed the obvious :D
[19:01] <Leao> How do I install latest radeon drivers for ubuntu 11.10 from main terminal (the one you get at loading screen with CTRL ALT F1)
[19:01] <halomom> mfaroukg, linux is not my area of expertiese, I'm learning still
[19:01] <xangua> !latest | Leao
[19:02] <mfaroukg> halomom, all releases were awesome till I get this 11.10 it looks nice but lots of bugs
[19:02] <halomom> mfaroukg, then try natty
[19:02] <Leao> well except for Gnome 3.0 shell everything is perfectly fine
[19:02] <lauratika> does any body knows where is language support in 11.10 under gnome?
[19:03] <halomom> mfaroukg, I don't know if that will fix theissue, but if 11.10 is causing issues, try natty which is fine for me
[19:03] <mfaroukg> halomom, my configurations :((
[19:03] <mfaroukg> halomom,it is too much customized
[19:04] <deper29> anyone?
[19:04] <xangua> lauratika: tried from the dash to type language¿
[19:04] <halomom> mfaroukg, try doing what I've done, einstalled and reconfigured linux 4 times this month because he can't make up her mind
[19:04] <reisio> deper29: I'm a one
[19:05] <mfaroukg> halomom,oh my god, so I have one more try left to get 4 times in 2 weeks, joking
[19:05] <lauratika> xangua: im on gnome no dash option
[19:05] <jasox> hi guys , need help to install manually ati propriatery driver.
[19:05] <IsmAvatar> I have an ATI radeon x1300, but glxgears is running at 55 fps. I think the driver's not installed right. Can someone help me get it installed right?
[19:05] <deper29> reisio: Suggestions?
[19:05] <mfaroukg> halomom,but I will feel so wanting to upgrade soon when they fix the problems
[19:06] <reisio> deper29: regarding?
[19:06] <reisio> jasox: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[19:07] <jasox> reisio, txt bro
[19:07] <halomom> mfaroukg, t may take a while, but you may be better off skipping 11.10 as well
[19:07] <mfaroukg> does any one know the best way to back up my configurations and packages because I am going to downgrade to 11.04
[19:07] <reisio> mfaroukg: have you changed anything?
[19:07] <deper29> resio: I am having trouble installing 11.10. I am on windows 7. when i boot from usb or dvd I get the options to try, install or check disc
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> !clone
[19:07] <dikidera> I am getting a compilation error saying iostream.h
[19:07] <dikidera> this has never happened before
[19:07] <deper29> when I select any of them, my screen goes black
[19:07] <reisio> deper29: try using the alternate install image, then
[19:07] <dikidera> iostream.h is missing
[19:07] <WrkWatchr> HI everyone...I have a problem with my Dell 2950 server. I allowed the system to install the normal package updates now I cannot get a network connection (Lucid 10.04 LTS)
[19:08] <deper29> reisio: alternate install image? Sorry, i'm new to some of this stuff
[19:08] <reisio> deper29: what's your processor?
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg: if you backup the hidden folders in $HOME you should be able to restore them after the install. Some configs may cause issues
[19:09] <deper29> reisio: intel i5 2500K
[19:09] <reisio> deper29: ah
[19:09] <reisio> deper29: http://ftp.ucsb.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/ubuntu/11.10/ubuntu-11.10-alternate-amd64.iso http://ftp.ucsb.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/ubuntu/11.10/MD5SUMS
[19:09] <mfaroukg> halomom, I have changed many things because I use my laptop in many places in the two offices, and home and are coffee shop, I need the get them all working as they were
[19:09] <reisio> deper29: uses less complex graphics, should have a higher chance of working
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> deper29: what GPU do you use?
[19:09] <skomorokh> EFI partitioning help? I've got Win7 installed w/EFI and am setting up 11.10 with LUKS. Do I need to create an EFIboot partition or will it use the one from Windows somehow? I'm not clear if it replaces /boot or it's just for the bootloader---if I do need a second one, does that mean I don
[19:09] <skomorokh> t need /boot?
[19:09] <deper29> reisio: video card is GeForce GTX 550 Ti if that matters?
[19:10] <deper29> thanks!
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> deper29: yes it does
[19:10] <lordjj> so the alternate install actually has graphics? Not just a command line?
[19:10] <mfaroukg> ActionParsnip, how about the new packages I installed ? shall I select them one by one ?
[19:10] <reisio> but does it matter in a way that he as a newbie can do anything about, short of using the alternate image? :p
[19:10] <IsmAvatar> I have an ATI radeon x1300, but glxgears is running at 55 fps. I think the driver's not installed right. Can someone help me get it installed right?
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> deper29: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[19:10] <xangua> lordjj: is a text installer
[19:11] <reisio> IsmAvatar: glxinfo | grep rendering
[19:11] <deper29> ActionParsnip: How do I do that?
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg: those are oneiric packages so aren't to be used in Natty. What is your issue in oneiric?
[19:11] <reisio> lordjj: it's framebuffer, like the beginnings of a Windows install
[19:11] <IsmAvatar> reisio: direct rendering: Yes
[19:11] <reisio> lordjj: y'know, big blocky color blocks
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | deper29
[19:12] <h00k> if I were to file a bug against the 'process' of using the user-switcher in the upper right corner, would I file it against one of the indicators?
[19:12] <mfaroukg> ActionParsnip, I have many problems in the network connections in all the VPN, PROXY and the wireless ? what is going on with ubuntu 11.10??? and there are many missing packages in ubuntu 11.10 ??? and the flash blugins are missing
[19:12] <reisio> h00k: go ahead and file the bug, the wranglers will sort it out
[19:12] <lordjj> Is it easy to repartition on those, or does it require bash?
[19:12] <reisio> lordjj: it's pretty easy
[19:13] <reisio> lordjj: and superior in some respects
[19:13] <deper29> thanks guys :)
[19:13] <olabvii> hello
[19:13] <reisio> hi
[19:13] <share> howdie
[19:13] <reisio> how-d
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg: works great here. Try installing kde, see if its a gnome thing. Worth a look considering you are about to format
[19:13] <olabvii> so whats up?
[19:13] <reisio> el nada
[19:13] <reisio> and with you?
[19:13] <olabvii> trying to get virtual box working with backtrack 5
[19:14] <mfaroukg> ActionParsnip, can you do more proxy profiles ?
[19:14] <reisio> olabvii: shouldn't have said that :p
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> deper29: some nvidia gpus don't like the nouveau driver. The option
[19:14] <conntrack> \o/
[19:14] <olabvii> why ?
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> deper29: makes it
[19:14] <glebihan> !backtrack | olabvii
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> Damn this bus
[19:15] <reisio> ActionParsnip: is it very yellow?
[19:15] <IsmAvatar> reisio: it said "direct rendering: Yes", and that's it.  What's that tell us?
[19:15] <olabvii> olol
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> olabvii: only canonical official release are supported here
[19:15] <mfaroukg> ActionParsnip, gnome proxy is dropped and I can't install it, also readpst is also dropped, these are examples
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> reisio: its gonna be a fireball soon. Get my bazooka
[19:16] <WrkWatchr> has anyone else experienced network problems after routine pkg updates?
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg: kde doesnt use gnome so may work
[19:16] <reisio> heh
[19:17] <mfaroukg> ActionParsnip, I wish
[19:17] <reisio> IsmAvatar: that it's using your card
[19:17] <brontosaurusrex> WrkWatchr, someone reported that 3 lucid servers got problems, i dont recall details (today)
[19:17] <WrkWatchr> I lost 4 at once...no clue how to fix
[19:18] <IsmAvatar> reisio: ok. I kinda assumed so, because otherwise, the display probably wouldn't turn on. So why's glxgears running at 55 fps? I've seen chipsets do better than that..
[19:19] <japro> hmm, i have installed a windows on the second HD
[19:19] <japro> the first one is a SSD
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg: i jumped to lxde and kde long ago. Not had an issue. Sidesteps the gnome debarkle
[19:19] <japro> the ubuntu installer now says " not detected operating systems"
[19:20] <agentgasmask> Hi all. I'm trying to install sun-java, does anyone know what the current package is called? google comes up with sun-java-6-jre  but apt-get says it isn't available.
[19:21] <japro> so i don't really dare to just have ubuntu auto install and possibly damage the windows install
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> agentgasmask: its not packaged
[19:21] <lordjj> look in synaptic
[19:21] <japro> what partitions do i have to create manually?
[19:21] <xangua> agentgasmask: openjdk should be enought, really want oracle/sun java¿¿
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> agentgasmask: oracle changed the licensing and don't want their java product packaged
[19:21] <japro> i suppose i need a /boot and / on the ssd and /usr on the hd?
[19:22] <lordjj> what's sun-jav6-jre then?
[19:22] <glebihan> lordjj, an old package that isn't in the repos anymore
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> japro: /usr is fine on ssd. Keep /var /tmp and swap on the platter based drive.
[19:23] <agentgasmask> Ok, Thanks all.
[19:23] <Mike9863> Certain applications are using different theme settings for some reason. Here is an example: http://i.imgur.com/DMbSl.png In the first image, the file menu and menu bar look different from the second image. Is there anyway I can make them consistent?
[19:24] <japro> ActionParsnip, any advice on how big i should make stuff?
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> Japro: also put your browser cache on in tempfs
[19:24] <JetBoyJetGirl> would anyone happen to know if there is a way in Ubuntu 10.10 to set all wireless networks to not auto-connect without having to click on each network & uncheck the auto-connect box
[19:25] <glebihan> Mike9863, if an application overrides theme settings, there's nothing you can do (unless you want to go into the application's code)
[19:25] <Urchin> what's the replacement for fsview in Ubuntu 10.04?
[19:25] <japro> 40gb root and 80gb /usr on ssd and the rest on the HD
[19:25] <japro> does that sound reasonable?
[19:25] <WrkWatchr> Thanks Bronto...Guess I will keep looking
[19:25] <xangua> Mike9863: pidgin still ises gtk2
[19:25] <danub> what is the program that converts dos files to unix files?
[19:26] <Pici> danub: tofrodos
[19:26] <danub> i thought it was dos2unix, but that isn't available/installed
[19:26] <wonderworld> hi, i wanto to customize some nautilus settings as in older versions with the -gtkrc-2.0 file. nautilus3 doesn't seem to honor my changes. where would i do such changes in current ubuntu?
[19:26] <danub> thats that it was, thank you Pici
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> Japro: 10gb /, 1xRam for swap (assuming more than 2gb Ram). Rest for /home. I'd personally put /home on the platter too
[19:26] <RiXtEr-home> dmb__
[19:26] <RiXtEr-home> dmb, you there.
[19:26] <japro> ActionParsnip, thnkx
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> japro: depending on use. A normal desktop user will be fine with that :)
[19:27] <obert> well.i try once again: how to change the launcher toolbar from to be hidden on the left of screen to be positioned fixed at bottom of it,please?
[19:28] <japro> 16 hmm, do i want swap on the SSD or the HD? I have 16gb ram, so i assume there won't be a whole lot of swapping going on anyway and SSD space is precious?
[19:28] <sskniranjan> obert: via combiz
[19:28] <RiXtEr-home> dmb, downgrading my kernel fixed my opengl coppyness.
[19:28] <BangBusRUs> Is there a way to set the top bar at the bottom of my screen? 11.10
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> Obert: unity launcher bar isn't movable presently
[19:28] <Mike9863> xangua: I was using GNOME Shell before I switched back to Compiz, and in GNOME Shell Pidgin did not have this issue.
[19:28] <IsmAvatar> I have an ATI radeon x1300, but glxgears is running at 55 fps. I think the driver's not installed right. Can someone help me get it installed right?
[19:28] <obert> aka?
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> japro: probably wont need swap unless you want hibernate
[19:29] <obert> sskniranjan: no combiz here. ActionParsnip: no idea
[19:29] <ModusPwnens> Can someone tell me if there is a risk for race-conditions when running scripts in /etc/rc0.d? What I mean to say is, does ubuntu make sure all those scripts finish before initiating shutdown?
[19:29] <japro> so i guess i can put it on the Hd then
[19:29] <Prophet> I need help trying to install Linux onto a laptop. When ever I put the disk in and linux loads up the lighting on the laptop turns off and prevents me from being able to see anything without using a flashlight on the screen. Is there a way to fix this?
[19:29] <sskniranjan> obert:actually the launcher can't be moved as it was the case with the dock in the windows
[19:30] <RiXtEr-home> IsmAvatar, i was having a similar issue with nvidia, downgraded the kernel to 2.6.38-12-generic and my fps got a whole bunch better.
[19:30] <danub> any reason why i shouldn't upgrade? im on 10.10 currently. using a netbook.
[19:30] <obert> sskniranjan: get it fixed at least?
[19:30] <danub> will i be forced to use unity or can i still have kde/gnome/flux?
[19:30] <ModusPwnens> danub: didn't they remove gnome in the latest ubuntu?
[19:30] <RiXtEr-home> IsmAvatar, I wouldn't recomend doing that though.
[19:30] <sskniranjan> i couldn't undersyand ur statement
[19:30] <Um_cara_qualquer> bonjour folks... does anybody here uses "conky"?
[19:30] <iceroot> danub: never touch a running system
[19:30] <RiXtEr-home> rixter@therix:~$ glxgears
[19:30] <RiXtEr-home> 18930 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3785.980 FPS
[19:31] <IsmAvatar> RiXtEr-home: I think that's overkill. All I need to do is install the driver, but I haven't found anywhere that shows how to do it
[19:31] <iceroot> ModusPwnens: gnome2 was replaced with gnome3
[19:31] <Pici> IsmAvatar: There are no proprietary drivers for that card, you'll need to use the open source 'radeon' drivers.
[19:31] <zykotick9> RiXtEr-home, 52380 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10475.956 FPS
[19:31] <danub> lol this update is that screwed up iceroot?
[19:31] <RiXtEr-home> IsmAvatar, the 3.0 kernel that 11.10 uses has issues (clearly) but you can search around for fglrx (iirc)
[19:32] <iceroot> danub: no but why change something if there is everything fine?
[19:32] <sskniranjan> obert u can install compiz from software centre to customise ur launcer
[19:32] <Pici> RiXtEr-home: fglrx does not support the x1300
[19:32] <sskniranjan> lil bit
[19:32] <danub> latest and greatest i suppose
[19:32] <obert> sskniranjan: i'll try that way then. thanks for clarifications
[19:32] <RiXtEr-home> Pici, ah... then radeon drivers.
[19:32] <obert> sskniranjan: this sounds a freakky setting anyway
[19:33] <obert>  i dont like this default setting
[19:33] <RiXtEr-home> I am getting better performance overall with the 2.6.x kernel here (IMO)
[19:33] <japro> hmm, ok i dont really get this, i now have partitions for / and /usr on the SSD and i want all the rest including /var and /tmp on the hd right? do i have to make extra partitions for those or can i just have som catchall partitions? and how do i set that up in the partitining tool
[19:33] <Guest62256> hello
[19:33] <IsmAvatar> How do I install the open source radeon driver? I'm assuming it's not supposed to be running glxgears at 55 fps
[19:34] <zykotick9> IsmAvatar, actually that "might" be matching your display refresh some how.  glxgears is a terrible benchmark - do you have working compiz or 3d games?
[19:35] <IsmAvatar> zykotick9: I was also benchmarking by fullscreen videos on youtube, which slowed to a crawl
[19:35] <warlock_handler> hi guys.. If I want to run a cron job... from 9am - 4pm, on Monday to friday for every 10 mins in an hour ..... is this the correct way? [19:36] <zykotick9> IsmAvatar, Flash doesn't use the graphics card - another poor test
[19:36] <Um_cara_qualquer> does anybody here uses "conky"?
[19:36] <IsmAvatar> not to mention significant tearing and such
[19:36] <zykotick9> !anyone | Um_cara_qualquer
[19:36] <RiXtEr-home> IsmAvatar, you might give this a try.
[19:36] <RiXtEr-home> IsmAvatar, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.29
[19:37] <brontosaurusrex> Um_cara_qualquer, !ask
[19:37] <japro> should i have separate partitions for /var and /tmp ?
[19:37] <riffautae> japro: mount --bind will let you map one directory to another accross partitions, I dont know how to do that in the installer or from a gui
[19:37] <IsmAvatar> RiXtEr-home: trying that now
[19:37] <japro> riffautae, ok, so i can just create one big partition and then sort that out later
[19:38] <RiXtEr-home> IsmAvatar, scroll up and read that big red box.
[19:38] <riffautae> japro: yes though you'll prolly want to do it before yo urestart into the system
[19:38] <riffautae> japro: copy everything over to the catcll partition from inside the live cd then put the bind in your fstab
[19:39] <nww> rrr
[19:39] <IsmAvatar> RiXtEr-home: don't think that pertains to me. I didn't go to the Radeon website or anything. This is essentially a fresh install of Oneiric
[19:39] <zykotick9> japro, i don't have an SSD, but "personally" i'd but / on the SSD and SWAP and /home on your HD - a little easier.
[19:39] <ModusPwnens> does anyone know if init makes sure all the shutdown scripts complete before shutting down?
[19:39] <warlock_handler> If I want to run a cron job... from 9am - 4pm, on Monday to friday for every 10 mins in an hour ..... is this the correct way? [19:39] <RiXtEr-home> IsmAvatar, alright, just be aware that if your card won't run with the fglrx driver, you may end up with a cli system only
[19:39] <riffautae> japro: yea it would prolly be easier the other way around / on the ssd and then take /home and /var out onto the hdd
[19:40] <riffautae> japro: perhaps just make tmp a 'tmpfs' so its in ram
[19:40] <riffautae> japro: also you might set noatime or relatime on the ssd partitions
[19:40] <japro> so do i need the distinction between / and /usr on the ssd?
[19:40] <RiXtEr-home> japro, not if you do it the way riffautae suggests.
[19:41] <Travis-42_> after some period of time it seems like my notification area crashes and new app icons don't show up there. has anyone experienced this?
[19:41] <zykotick9> japro, that's up to you (and the different advice you've been given)
[19:41] <IsmAvatar> v_v
[19:41] <riffautae> japro: prolly not, if you make / on the ssd that will catch /usr /lib and others
[19:41] <slashuer> japro i would just do /   and  /home
[19:41] <riffautae> japro: be aware if you want /usr on the ssd you might as well put /lib there too
[19:41] <DrGamut2> why
[19:41] <DrGamut2> so stuff runs faster?
[19:41] <RiXtEr-home> i'd put /lib on there... nothing wrong with faster loading libraries
[19:42] <slashuer> japro do you have a ssd and an hdd
[19:42] <riffautae> DrGamut2: yes usr and lib are both important for the loading speed of programs
[19:42] <DrGamut2> k
[19:42] <japro> just that i get this right, if i put / on the ssd and /home on the hd, everything that isn't in home will end up on the SSD?
[19:42] <japro> slashuer, yes
[19:42] <riffautae> japro: yes
[19:42] <RiXtEr-home> japro, yep
[19:42] <zykotick9> japro, be sure to put SWAP on the HD!
[19:42] <riffautae> japro: yes listen to zykotick9 about swap
[19:42] <japro> zykotick9, that i already did
[19:42] <RiXtEr-home> indeed. :)
[19:43] <RiXtEr-home> longer life of your ssd
[19:43] <japro> so i guess i'll put / on the ssd, /home and /var on the hd
[19:43] <slashuer> japro if you want the solid state to last i would put /var /tmp and swap on the hdd
[19:43] <japro> what a reasonable sizes for var and tmp?
[19:44] <IsmAvatar> RiXtEr-home: if that happens, I'm doing a fresh install of oneiric and we'll be right back to where we started, minus a couple hours lost, so no biggy
[19:44] <RiXtEr-home> tmp normally doesn't require much hdd, var on the otherhand...
[19:44] <zykotick9> slashuer, i doubt there is a huge mount of write to /var and /tmp?  Why bother relocating those?
[19:44] <RiXtEr-home> IsmAvatar, just letting you know you may end up with a hosed system ;)
[19:44] <riffautae> zykotick9: logs are in /var
[19:44] <slashuer> yeah i guess
[19:45] <zykotick9> riffautae, good point!  sorry slashuer - you make a good point ;)
[19:45] <RiXtEr-home> zykotick9, yeah constant writing there.
[19:45] <riffautae> zykotick9: caches and such as well
[19:45] <IsmAvatar> you'd think I'd be used to it by now v_v
[19:45]  * RiXtEr-home is afk.
[19:46] <saintbasil> Excuse me, anyone good with SED?
[19:46] <IsmAvatar> RiXtEr-home: I got stuck. "sudo: aticonfig: command not found"
[19:46] <riffautae>  /var is for long term runtime data, /tmp is for short term
[19:46] <japro>  /var on my laptop is like 500mb
[19:46] <zykotick9> saintbasil_, i know the #bash people ususally are ;)
[19:46] <slashuer> my /var is 4gb
[19:46] <brontosaurusrex> var can also hold /www, which can be huge, but i guess that wont happen
[19:46] <riffautae> japro: you could just make /tmp a tmpfs, ubuntu clears /tmp every boot anyway
[19:47] <saintbasil_> zykotick9: ty
[19:47] <riffautae> japro: that means it is not a disk partition but instead in ram
[19:47] <japro> well, since it's on the hdd i guess i can make it like 20gb and not worry about it
[19:47] <japro>  /var i mean
[19:47] <riffautae> japro: haha that is a bit exessive let me check all the machines i have access to to see how much they use
[19:48] <brontosaurusrex> japro, id go with about 2 gigs (blindly)
[19:48] <slashuer> well you should not have much problems insept on updates becausse /var/apt/cache
[19:48] <slashuer> all the software on your computer downloads to here
[19:48] <JetBoyJetGirl> how does one disable auto-connecting to wireless networks on ubuntu 10.10 without actually disabling wireless?
[19:49] <riffautae> brontosaurusrex: right now on this machine i am using i have 1gb and on an ubuntu server there is 512mb
[19:49] <riffautae> brontosaurusrex: used
[19:49] <brontosaurusrex> riffautae, so 2 gigs is reasonable i guess
[19:50] <cablop> riffautae: what is your question?
[19:50] <riffautae> japro: yea so 2->4gb is prolly fine
[19:50] <slashuer> jetboyjetgirl  right click network and click on your connt¥ection type and then click edit and unselect auto connect
[19:50] <riffautae> cablop: ? i dont have one
[19:50] <cablop> lol
[19:50] <zykotick9> japro, until you try to upgrade to the next release ;)
[19:50] <cablop> then what is 2 gb enough
[19:50] <riffautae> cablop: well sorta, we are trying to figure out how big to make /var
[19:51] <brontosaurusrex> cablop, the question is how to partition a new install with ssd and normal hd disks
[19:51] <cablop> riffautae: it depends, var holds things like webpages if you use apache and tomcat servers and also databases,so for web development 2 gb is probably too few
[19:52] <japro> i use it for desktop stuff and non-web-development
[19:52] <brontosaurusrex> cablop, yes, but the www can be set somewhere else as well
[19:52] <cablop> did anyone tested that btrfs?
[19:52] <bdrewery> anyone know a workaround for this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/803943
[19:52] <riffautae> cablop: however that can all be relocated
[19:52] <cablop> brontosaurusrex: not that true, because security is managed by aparmor to move things like mysql databases is aPITA
[19:52] <zykotick9> bdrewery, don't use unity ;)
[19:52] <riffautae> cablop: especially if he has a catch all partition for data on the hdd
[19:53] <japro> right now i have / on ssd, /var on hdd and /home on hdd
[19:53] <riffautae> cablop: just make a www and db folder on his hd partition and tell them to use that
[19:53] <cablop> riffautae: or partition the thing using LVM
[19:54] <cablop> by the way
[19:54] <brontosaurusrex> cablop, your cms or whatever databases are over a gig ?
[19:54] <riffautae> japro: another option for the hdd is make a partition and mount it to like /space then make a var and home subfolder
[19:54] <riffautae> japro: then use a bind to map them to root
[19:54] <riffautae> japro: then you have tons of space and dont have to worry
[19:55] <japro> i guess i'll try like this, nothing too fancy :D
[19:55] <cablop> nope, but if you are using the machine for webdevelopment you are going to need things like a subversion|git|bazaar repository, plus dev, test, user acceptance environments, and so on
[19:55] <cablop> and if you develop in thins like tomcat, you are going to reach the 1GB SO fast
[19:55] <riffautae> japro: are you going to tmpfs /tmp ?
[19:55] <riffautae> japro: you might be able to do that in the installer
[19:55] <japro> yep, but i'll first have to google how to do that
[19:56] <brontosaurusrex> cablop, he will not
[19:56] <cablop> anyone using btrfs?
[19:56] <japro> in the partitioning tool I don't see an option for tmpfs
[19:56] <riffautae> japro: ok i wasnt sure
[19:56] <slashuer> any one here a software developer?
[19:56] <riffautae> slashuer: i imagine there are a few around >.>
[19:57] <twirm> slashuer, I am
[19:57] <japro> slashuer, sort, of, depends on what kind of development
[19:57] <slashuer> i am also a software developer
[19:58] <RiXtEr-home> IsmAvatar, did  sudo dpkg -i fglrx*.deb complete?
[19:58] <brontosaurusrex> ok, my /var/lib/mysql is holding 22megs of data (several wordpress. joomla and whatnot installs...)
[19:58] <japro> not sure if i'm allowed to already call myself that... i'm still studying and my "work" is mostly for academic hpc stuff
[19:58] <slashuer> right now i'm trying to get libclang to work with my program to parse
[19:58] <slashuer> C++ code
[19:58] <brontosaurusrex> nope, actually 37 megs
[19:59] <twirm> slashuer, Sorry, I don't know much about libclang
[20:00] <riffautae> slashuer: prolly want to go to a dev #room
[20:00] <cablop> i am developer also, but... what specifically
[20:00] <riffautae> slashuer: or #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:00] <cablop> slashuer: a channel of c++ but unsure if #c++ soes exist
[20:00] <cablop> *does
[20:00] <slashuer> sorry off topic
[20:01] <go8765{off|away}> hello. I have little question: if some online skanner scan my compyter for opened ports, that I close with iptables and show that this porst is open? what does this mean? p.s. I go in internet under provider NAT. Does this mean that open ports is in provider machine?
[20:01] <systemclient> is there some autostart directory for gnome/unity so that I can just throw some shell scripts in there?
[20:01] <twirm> cablop, it's a haskell lib he needs help with
[20:01] <japro> o...k... skype just went to 100% cpu for now apparent reason
[20:01] <twirm> slashuer, #haskell (if it exists)
[20:02] <slashuer> 948 files are open in /var
[20:02] <RiXtEr-home> haskell exists.
[20:02] <riffautae> go8765: your router is the likely culpret
[20:02] <RiXtEr-home> err #haskell does.
[20:02] <riffautae> go8765: or even the modem
[20:02] <japro> seriously, wtf, skype brought my cpu temp to 75°C...
[20:03] <japro> not even linpack does that
[20:03] <cablop> twirm: sigh, pretty hardcore, haskell + c++
[20:04] <go8765> riffautae: what does mean "culpret" ?
[20:04] <riffautae> japro: :o it crashed
[20:04] <IsmAvatar> RiXtEr-home: yes
[20:04] <riffautae> go8765: the thing that has the open port. its probably what is responsible for your issue
[20:04] <riffautae> go8765: also i spelled it wrong
[20:04] <japro> riffautae, so i guess if i ever overclock something i will cash skype on it to see if the cpu stays stable :D
[20:05] <riffautae> japro: ha
[20:05] <cablop> mmm
[20:05] <cablop> 256 MB too much for /boot?
[20:05] <primeras> hi. i using ubuntu 11.10. how to changing unity to gnome classic "with console"?
[20:05] <darius> Hello, acn someone help me with wine?
[20:05] <darius> can*
[20:05] <primeras> sorry my english isn't very well
[20:06] <go8765> riffautae: sorry... english not my native - can you simply explain - is this pors my or provider?
[20:06] <darius> I want to run some windows programs but I don't know how to use WINE.
[20:06] <riffautae> cablop: no since most distros dont remove old kernel packages
[20:06] <riffautae> cablop: they will pile up
[20:06] <cablop> sigh
[20:06] <brontosaurusrex> go8765, yours, provider should have all ports open (i think)
[20:06] <cablop> ok, then 256
[20:06] <japro> darius, you can pretty much just set the exec bit and doubleclick them
[20:06] <cablop> and manual clean up from time to time
[20:07] <go8765> brontosaurusrex: and what about NAT ?
[20:07] <brontosaurusrex> go8765, it might be a router set to certain other machine in your network?
[20:07] <go8765> brontosaurusrex: I am under NAT
[20:07] <cablop> in your opinion what is best
[20:07] <riffautae> go8765: you probably have a device at your house that directs internet from your provider into your computers, that is what may have open ports
[20:07] <darius> japro, it attempts to open, it shows it trying to on the unity dock, then it just goes away and nothing happens. This with ALL .exe files.
[20:07] <slashuer> 地用なら
[20:08] <cablop> ext3 on top of LVM on top of dm-crypt
[20:08] <brontosaurusrex> go8765, yes, then it might be some other machine returning xyz port request
[20:08] <japro> darius, try running from the console "wine ./myprogram" or somilar
[20:08] <cablop> ext3 on top of dm-crypt, and multiple partitions...
[20:08] <japro> that should tell you more about the why's
[20:08] <dwarder> hello
[20:09] <dwarder> is there a way to prevent ubuntu from syncing with time server?
[20:09] <darius> japro, like say it's on the desktop I do. "wine /Desktop/minecraft.exe"?
[20:09] <japro> darius, i guess so
[20:09] <brontosaurusrex> go8765, ubuntu shouldnt have any ports open by default i think
[20:09] <japro> in the worst case it will tell you that it doesn't work :D
[20:09] <BangBusRUs> Hey is there a way to move the bar on the top?
[20:09] <go8765> riffautae: now I use dial-up internet - about what devise you said ? :)
[20:09] <darius> japro, when I do that nothing happens, I get no output from terminal either.
[20:09] <danslo> BangBusRUs: nope, at least not without unity plugins
[20:10] <brontosaurusrex> BangBusRUs, the top is menu/info area
[20:10] <BangBusRUs> I want to move it down
[20:10] <slashuer> for working with wine i would recamend Q4Wine
[20:10] <riffautae> go8765: oh i see, then if you have iptables or some firewall set up then it is likely your provider causing the ports to be open
[20:10] <danslo> BangBusRUs: same thing. not possible without plugins
[20:10] <japro> darius, i hope minecraft was only an example :D
[20:10] <VSpike> Anyone got a clue why when I start byobu I get a brief message saying "Sorry, screen was compiled without -DDEBUG option"
[20:10] <brontosaurusrex> BangBusRUs, there was hack on google, let me find it
[20:10] <japro> you can run that perfectly fine on linux without the windows version
[20:11] <cablop> does nowadays puting the swap in another hard disk really improve performance?
[20:11] <riffautae> darius: yea you can run minecraft 'native' on linux
[20:11] <darius> Yes, I use the .jar for that. I'm trying to install Diablo II and world craft.
[20:11] <llutz> cablop: no
[20:11] <brontosaurusrex> BangBusRUs, http://askubuntu.com/questions/33605/can-i-move-the-unity-launcher
[20:11] <darius> warcraft i mean
[20:11] <darius> Although minecraft does not work at all on this computer.
[20:11] <riffautae> cablop: i never do, the os doesnt usualy thrash since ram is so cheap
[20:12] <azert> hello there
[20:12] <azert> i just connect an usb pen on my pc
[20:12] <azert> from cli how to locate my pendrive ?
[20:13] <riffautae> azert: ls /media   or try /mnt
[20:13] <go8765> riffautae: so its possible - when I scan ports in online servese - in results see ports of some_device/provider_machine what I use to go in internet ?
[20:13] <darius> It should show up on your unity dock if its mounted.
[20:13] <azert> there is no file on my pendrive riffautae
[20:13] <bekks> azert: "df -h" should show it.
[20:13] <slashuer> ok bye every one
[20:13] <riffautae> azert: is it formatted/partitioned? if not you will have to do that
[20:13] <azert> it is formatted in fat32
[20:13] <riffautae> go8765: yes if your isp is a jerk that might happen
[20:14] <wildbat> !mount > azert , if df-h didn't show it you have to mount it.
[20:14] <riffautae> azert: does the following line show anything (do NOT post the results!)? dmesg | grep "New USB"
[20:15] <llutz> azert: if it isn't automounted: "sudo fdisk -l" check what partition it is. then "sudo mount  -o uid=1000,umask=007 /dev/sdXY /mnt"
[20:15] <darius> Does anyone here know anything about Minecraft? It will not connect to minecraft.net to let me sign in
[20:15] <riffautae> darius: sometimes minecraft.net goes down, if you can access other sites try again later
[20:16] <riffautae> darius: the login server on minecraft that is
[20:16] <ubuntun00b> can someone tell me how to change my machine's domain name? Currently it is jon@studio-xps-1640, and I would like it to be something a little easier to type
[20:16] <zykotick9> !hostname | ubuntun00b
[20:16] <bekks> ubuntun00b: Thats your host name, not your domain name.
[20:16] <darius> It works fine on all of my other computers, it's just this one that won't connect and it's always been lke this since day one
[20:16] <go8765> riffautae: I (and google translate) dont understand what does mean "jerk" :) can you explain plese?
[20:16] <ubuntun00b> ok thanks peoplez
[20:17] <reisio> IsmAvatar: you seen _that_ chip do better?
[20:17] <riffautae> go8765: haha it was a joke, I just meant that they were mean to do that
[20:18] <azert> ok thanks all
[20:18] <matyy> Hey, flash sometimes, I cannot reproduce it, freezes my computer. I can’t find anything on google, because there are thousands of crashes with flash. The screen flickers a few time, than everything is frozen – music continues tough. I can’t even use CTRL+ALT+F1 to change to a terminal... any ideas? Ideas what I could search for?
[20:18] <riffautae> darius: that is odd
[20:18] <riffautae> darius: can you ping minecraft.net?
[20:18] <brontosaurusrex> ubuntun00b, or/and make an alias
[20:18] <darius> yes i can
[20:19] <go8765> riffautae: so... its to hard for me anyway undertand - is this my ports was open or not...
[20:19] <riffautae> go8765: yes that is why
[20:19] <cablop> i need to encrypt the disk, for performance issues i am not sure if go for just one encrypted partition, then LVM on top, then filesystems on top or to go for multiple encrypted partitions with filesystems on top of that... the reason is one year ago, dm-crypt just spawned one thread per block device no matter what creating a bottleneck... any idea, suggestion or knowledge?
[20:20] <riffautae> cablop: i'd prolly do one encry partition with lvm but i have not benchmarked it
[20:20] <riffautae> cablop: its what i have on my laptop
[20:20] <cablop> and how is performance?
[20:21] <brontosaurusrex> riffautae, why do you need lvm on laptop ? (just courious)
[20:21] <cablop> i had that on a netbook, i had to use many partitions... to spawn a process per block device, vitual machines and swap were making of it a real bottleneck
[20:21] <riffautae> cablop: i didnt notice any drops but i didnt get to play with it much. compiles and such never had an issue
[20:22] <darius> I'm trying to install the .exe with Q4WINE and it says wow.exe finished for prefix:"Default". Exit code is:"0"
[20:22] <riffautae> brontosaurusrex: i didnt really see a better way to put multiple partitions on a dm-crypt block device
[20:22] <go8765> riffautae: sorry... that is why - what? I cant translate it correct... what you mean? is this ports my or provider ? how I can understand this?
[20:22] <riffautae> darius: which java are you ising
[20:22] <MarcosAraujo> Hi!!
[20:22] <riffautae> go8765: I think it is your provider
[20:23] <darius> For the Q4Wine or Minecraft?
[20:23] <riffautae> darius: as in, sun/orical or the openjdk
[20:23] <darius> Sun
[20:23] <darius> I have both versions though.
[20:23] <riffautae> darius: hm dunno then
[20:24] <riffautae> darius: well double check that it is executing with the sun one, the openjdk one isnt really supported and sometimes acts weird
[20:24] <Hapz> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Packages
[20:24] <Hapz>   404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.181 80]
[20:24] <Hapz> what do i do about this
[20:24] <Hapz> (new to ubuntu)
[20:24] <riffautae> darius: i tried running a server with it but switched to the sun one and it was fine
[20:24] <FloodBot1> Hapz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:24] <riffautae> Hapz: can you reach google and such?
[20:25] <Hapz> yes.
[20:25] <go8765> riffautae: thanks! спасибо :)
[20:26] <riffautae> go8765: your welcome
[20:26] <Hapz> riffautae also 64 bytes from 91.189.92.181: icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=109 ms
[20:27] <riffautae> Hapz: 404 means their web server isnt giving you the page actually, something is wrong with that mirror
[20:27] <brontosaurusrex> probably jaunty is not supported anymore
[20:27] <Hapz> riffautae how do i turn to another mirror
[20:28] <friskd> Hey all, i just installed Ubuntu on a rackspace cloud server. I install ubunut-desktop and gdm
[20:29] <friskd> But i can't access the internet from the server.
[20:29] <friskd> also i can't do pings when i ssh into it..
[20:30] <friskd> These are my iptable configuations: http://fpaste.org/TUNJ/
[20:30] <cablop> any known issue of using a symlink to set the /home in another place like/home->/other_partition/home ???
[20:30] <friskd> Why might i not be able to connect to the internet
[20:30] <lauratika> how to change themes in ubuntu 11.10 seems i cant change from gnome to anything else... help!
[20:31] <arash> At occasions all windows disappear, so I see my wallpaper. ~5 seconds later the windows all reappear, but they get totally rearranged across different workspaces!! Which logs could give me a clue? This happened even before with 11.04, Now I run 11.10.
[20:31] <Hapz> riffautae any idea then?
[20:32] <rhizmoe> how can i run gedit2 on oneiric?
[20:32] <dikidera> I like the control panel
[20:32] <dikidera> but how can i find the old System drop down menu?
[20:32] <rhizmoe> cablop: no. historically it's been common to symlink /home -> /usr/home/
[20:32] <dikidera> so i can like launch system monitor
[20:32] <riffautae> Hapz: you should update to a newer linux, that one does not get security fixes anymore.
[20:32] <riffautae> Hapz: in the mean time...
[20:33] <riffautae> Hapz: replace archive.ubuntu.com with old-releases.ubuntu.com in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:33] <go8765> dikidera: try top or htop
[20:33] <llutz> cablop: better to use bind-mounts or just mount /home from different partition
[20:33] <iceroot> i want to add a dependency to "lubuntu-meta" but i dont get the logic from that package, inside debian/control there is just Depends: ${germinate:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}
[20:33] <Hapz> riffautae can you tell me the whole line/content of that file should be?
[20:33] <trism> lauratika: install gnome-tweak-tool to change the themes
[20:33] <riffautae> cablop: other then you cant use symnlinks across partitions, i dont think so
[20:33] <cablop> llutz: how does bind-mounts work?
[20:34] <go8765> dikidera: or try cardapio. if I right understood you
[20:34] <riffautae> Hapz: sorry you have to replace ALL instances of the first string with the second one in the file yourself. its not just one line
[20:34] <llutz> cablop: mount -o bind /existing/derectory /newmountpoint
[20:34] <llutz> directory*
[20:34] <cablop> riffautae: yes they work, but they are just softlinks, if the target dissapears you end with a wrong symlink
[20:34] <riffautae> Hapz: you could use gedit and search replaces if you dont know vim
[20:34] <lauratika> also why i cant see cryptkeeper icon in unity??
[20:34] <Hapz> i know vim. i messed with that file trying to fix this already
[20:35] <riffautae> cablop: oh i see
[20:35] <dikidera> what is cardapio?
[20:35] <trism> iceroot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement
[20:35] <cablop> llutz: then... mount -o bind /other_partition/home /home , right?
[20:35] <go8765> dikidera: try to googl it :)
[20:35] <teage> Hi, How do I get my desktop file system icons back? like when I plug a usb in the icon used to show on my desktop. im using Lucid. thanks
[20:35] <riffautae> Hapz try this including the ':' while in command mode->   :%s/archive.ubuntu.com/old-releases.ubuntu.com/g
[20:36] <Hapz> riffautae ... i know vim. i messed with that file trying to fix this already
[20:36] <go8765> dikidera: and higlight - if you asked something :)
[20:36] <llutz> cablop: yes, but as i said, just mount complete /home from that other partition without bind
[20:36] <Hapz> and i replaced its content.
[20:36] <lauratika> trism: but im using uinity
[20:36] <riffautae> Hapz: if you did that, then run apt-get update and it should pull down the new repo info
[20:36] <trism> lauratika: yes, but unity uses the same gsettings keys for the themes
[20:37] <go8765> dikidera: https://launchpad.net/cardapio
[20:37] <cablop> llutz, this is the question, how to not to waste the space on the /home partition
[20:37] <asslowashell> how do i install a package that is available for "lucid" but not in "hardy" -- I'm using hardy
[20:37] <trism> lauratika: you can also use dconf-editor, but it is a bit of work to track down all the keys
[20:37] <lauratika> trism: know why but i cant change icons
[20:37] <dikidera> To be honest
[20:37] <Mike9863> Back in GNOME 2, certain aspects of themes could be changed such as the color with the Theme Manager. How can I go about doing this in GNOME 3?
[20:37] <Hapz> riffautae should i re-set it to after i apt-get update?
[20:37] <dikidera> 11.10 is much more ram consuming and slow in general than 11.04
[20:38] <lauratika> gnome still on no matter which icon set i use gnome still there and it's quite horrible
[20:38] <bekks> Mike9863: Ask the gnome3 devs - the didnt implemented it.
[20:38] <portwolf> hi guys!
[20:38] <portwolf> I am trying to setup my IPOD Nano 5th generation (8GB)
[20:38] <Mike9863> bekks: I asked #gnome, but i haven't gotten a response.
[20:38] <portwolf> I am using banshee to sync my msic, but that somhow doesnt wokr
[20:38] <go8765> dikidera: try openbox :)
[20:39] <dikidera> i'd prefer something as lite as openbox
[20:39] <dikidera> oops
[20:39] <llutz> cablop: you mean, you want to use that partition for more than just /home? in that case bind-mount would be a handy way
[20:39] <bekks> Mike9863: That doesnt change what I said ;)
[20:39] <dikidera> brain fart
[20:39] <dikidera> i meant xfce
[20:39] <portwolf> it shows, that the music is being synced, but the sync process never ends, so I just disconnect it (after hit "disconnect" in banshee)
[20:39] <trism> lauratika: the icon theme key is org.gnome.desktop.interface icon-theme (gsettings get/set can change it as well)
[20:39] <portwolf> but the music isnt being synced, ipod shows: no music
[20:39] <ederico> hello, I'm running 11.10 using Unity and I have a problem. Basically, apps aren't appearing in the dash, this doesn't always happen but I notice it has happened repeatedly. Is this a known problem and/or is there a solution?
[20:40] <portwolf> I am using ubuntu 11.04 here
[20:40] <cablop> llutz: yep, i want to archive files and hold some shared projects, but i know things like evolution or thunderbird will fill the /home just with the email copies, just to name one thing
[20:40] <cablop> llutz: can i use that bind in the fstab?
[20:40] <emmoss> what is the best way to install ubuntu 11* without a CD, USB or floppy?
[20:40] <cablop> emmoss: usb
[20:40] <ubuntu> hello to everyone
[20:41] <llutz> cablop: you can "/sourcedir /target none    bind    0 0"
[20:41] <lauratika> trsim: is this via terminal??
[20:41] <emmoss> cablop you didn't even read my question now did you?
[20:41] <dikidera> im installing programs
[20:41] <trism> lauratika: yes
[20:41] <dikidera> which i cant find
[20:41] <mjk5> hello to everyone i need some help with my wifi on ubuntu 11.10
[20:41] <lauratika> command not found
[20:41] <go8765> dikidera: so use xface or lxde :) this is not a problem :) nobody force you to use kde or unity or gnome3 :)
[20:42] <riffautae> Hapz: you mean to the old values? no you should update to a more recent ubuntu sorry.Your distro is no longer supported so you are not getting anymore software updates
[20:42]  * AKQJ10 deseja um excelente feriado.
[20:42] <trism> lauratika: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface icon-theme ubuntu-mono-dark;
[20:42] <dikidera> Right, but i've switched the topic long ago ;)
[20:42] <cablop> emmoss: lol i gave another meaning o that comma there, re-read it and it makes sense, you said with no CD, then between USB or floppy what is the best xD
[20:42] <dikidera> How do i find the system monitor?
[20:42] <llutz> emmoss: do you already have a running linux on that machine? yes, use debootstrap
[20:42] <berasa> anyone have an idea why changes to my filesystem might be getting rolled back after a reboot?
[20:42] <vulnerox> Is there a certain type of linux that WINE works better in?
[20:42] <cablop> emmoss: well, then can you put the disk in another computer?
[20:42] <vulnerox> like distro I mean
[20:42] <lauratika> trism: done, but icons wont change
[20:42] <bekks> berasa: Because you are not using a "real" computer but a virtual machine?
[20:43] <riffautae> vulnerox: 32bit distros might work better but other then that any major one should be fine
[20:43] <lauratika> do i have to restart
[20:43] <go8765> dikidera: try to print in terminal gnome-system-monitor
[20:43] <berasa> bekks: I am using a real computer.
[20:43] <cablop> if you can, then create a first partition, make it /boot place the iso on it, then adjust the gruo to launch the iso and voilá
[20:43] <cablop> emmoss:  if you can, then create a first partition, make it /boot place the iso on it, then adjust the gruo to launch the iso and voilá
[20:43] <go8765> dikidera: or try top or htop
[20:43] <trism> lauratika: is this unity-3d or 2d?
[20:43] <vulnerox> riffautae: is it neccessary to put an anti-virus on wine
[20:43] <lauratika> 3d
[20:43] <vulnerox> so that a virus does not attach your WINE
[20:44] <cablop> thanks llutz
[20:44] <trism> lauratika: I will go take a look, (you may just need to restart the session)
[20:44] <riffautae> vulnerox: no, most virii cant really do anything to wine
[20:44] <dikidera> go8765:ok that works
[20:44] <dikidera> but how do i make a shortcut of some sorts on the desktop?
[20:44] <lauratika> it is odd that icon wont change
[20:44] <mjk5> can someone help with wifi card keep disconnecting?
[20:44] <vulnerox> ok
[20:44] <lauratika> let me restart be back in a minute
[20:44] <cablop> ah, llutz, how does permissions work in that kind of mount? depending on the /sourcedir partition one, right?
[20:44] <vulnerox> I rememebr I once had wine
[20:45] <vulnerox> I installed a windows program and it suddenly stopped working'
[20:45] <vulnerox> all programs stopped working
[20:45] <Jilly> does anyone know why muon doesn't ask for my root password? It just complains that it can't update.
[20:45] <japro> can i have grub automatically detect other oses on other HDs?
[20:45] <graingert> emmoss: netboot
[20:45] <hilarie> Bleh, just bought a seagate goflex desk 2tb external HD, and it doesn't want to mount for me... any ideas? can't find any first step troubleshooting to do
[20:46] <bekks> japro: Grub does that by default.
[20:46] <go8765> dikidera: sorry, but I dont know - I use openbox now :)
[20:46] <japro> i have windows on the HD and ubuntu on the SSD and it didn't find the windows
[20:46] <riffautae> Jilly: I dont know what muon is but most software cant 'upgrade' themselves to have root access
[20:46] <riffautae> Jilly: even with the password
[20:46] <japro> bekks, apparently not, it at least didn't do it for me
[20:46] <sasori> hi, how to install ubuntu from a flash drive?...i have an ubuntu 64 bit in my flashdrive, when i booted my machine from usb, it did booted ubuntu..after that, i don't know what to do next in order to fully install ubuntu without using usb flashdrive again
[20:46] <cablop> japro: two options, if you can boot windows from the bios then do that, but in the other hand try sudo update-grub to see if it detects your windows disk
[20:46] <llutz> cablop you can change some things like ro/rw etc.
[20:46] <hilarie> sasori click install ubuntu on your desktop
[20:47] <lelamal_> Jilly: you'd be better off asking in #kubuntu
[20:47] <go8765> dikidera: may be in /usr/share/applications - you can find shourtcut and copy it where you want....
[20:47] <graingert> emmoss: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[20:47] <cablop> llutz ah, thanks
[20:47] <sasori> hilarie: is that an option from the usb booted ubuntu ?
[20:47] <hilarie> yar
[20:47] <sasori> ok...lemme try :)
[20:47] <graingert> sasori: there should be an icon on the desktop
[20:47] <hilarie> Install, its on your usb booted ubuntu desktop
[20:47] <graingert> saying install ubuntu
[20:47] <graingert> or similar
[20:48] <sasori> ok, rebooting now
[20:48] <graingert> (might be worth making that icon a mite biger)
[20:48] <graingert> sasori: ?
[20:48] <graingert> wait
[20:48] <graingert> sasori: are you on the live system now?
[20:48] <hilarie> Yeah, doesn't 11.10 get rid of that icon?
[20:48] <graingert> hilarie: nope afaik
[20:48] <sasori> yes im on a live system
[20:48] <graingert> sasori: you don't need to reboot
[20:49] <sasori> it's an 11.04 distro...
[20:49] <graingert> sasori: oh I see lol
[20:49] <graingert> sasori: okay, do you have anything else on the pc's disk?
[20:49] <graingert> any other OS?
[20:49] <hilarie> anyone? if the drive doesn't mount out of the box, return and try another brand?
[20:49] <graingert> you've backed up all your files/folder/wallet.dat's
[20:49] <go8765> dikidera: you find shortcut here ?
[20:50] <graingert> hilarie: depends is it an external drive
[20:50] <sasori> i have the iso file from the win7 os, before i placed it inside a flash drive
[20:50] <Jilly> lelamal_, thanks...I'll try in kubuntu
[20:50] <genii-around> hilarie: If the drive is fresh out of a box, it likely has no filesystem to mount as of yet.
[20:50] <seidell> hey how do i login
[20:50] <graingert> or is it a mass storage
[20:50] <hilarie> graingert: yes
[20:50] <sasori> ok, it not booted to ubuntu again
[20:50] <sasori> where will i see that desktop option?
[20:50] <hilarie> genii-around even for an external?
[20:50] <vulnerox> bit
[20:50] <sasori> ok i saw it :D
[20:50] <vulnerox> is there ubuntu 64 bot?
[20:50] <bekks> vulnerox: Yes.
[20:50] <graingert> hilarie: okay does it show up in gparted
[20:50] <vulnerox> ohh
[20:50] <hilarie> no :(
[20:50] <vulnerox> interestin
[20:50] <graingert> sasori: awesome
[20:50] <riffautae> sasori: after you installed did you remove the usb drive before rebooting? if you dont it will boot the usb drive instead
[20:51] <riffautae> sasori: or did i misread?
[20:51] <graingert> when it says "continue testing" that's a reference to portal2
[20:51] <emmoss> the ubuntu 11 sys req says I need 15GB, is the OS 15GB or is it just an recommendatation cause I have 16GB
[20:51] <sasori> currently installing..i just clicked the install ubuntu
[20:51] <sasori> ..but wait..will this automatically dual boot? or will it wipe out my win7 os ?
[20:51] <riffautae> sasori: it will ask what you want to do
[20:52] <sasori> kewl :D
[20:52] <graingert> emmoss: try a light version
[20:52] <w30> hilarie, I have a 1 tb goflex usb drive; no problems here except you have to install some stuff for mac and windows off the drive.
[20:52] <riffautae> emmoss: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[20:52] <graingert> emmoss: maybe lubuntu
[20:52] <Leao> These documents are not written for naabz. How can i change from FGLRX to Open source drivers ?
[20:52] <graingert> 16GB is high memory
[20:52] <graingert> :p
[20:52] <hilarie> w30  did it just mount for you?
[20:52] <emmoss> I have lots of space just one free partition with 16GB
[20:52] <japro> cablop, argh, there is something wrong anyway. it automatically boots to windows and i can't seem to change the boot order
[20:52] <riffautae> graingert: i think he means hard drive space
[20:53] <graingert> I know
[20:53] <w30> hilarie, Linux gives me no static, no troubles
[20:53] <riffautae> graingert: kk
[20:53] <graingert> but you linked to LowMem~1
[20:53] <cablop> japro: mmm weird, different disks or just one physical disk?
[20:53] <riffautae> graingert: it talks about low hdd space as well
[20:53] <graingert> emmoss: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
[20:53] <w30> hilarie, yes
[20:53] <japro> different disks
[20:53] <meowsus> I have an external USB hard drive i use purely for RSYNC backups. I'm setting it up in /etc/fstab to not automatically mount, yada yada, but I'm curious if i should set SYNC or ASYNC on the device.
[20:53] <japro> according the the installers the one that ubuntu sits on is "HD0"
[20:53] <japro> or similar
[20:53] <bekks> meowsus: sync is much slower.
[20:53] <cablop> i think ext4 is not as reliable as ext3
[20:54] <cablop> what do you think?
[20:54] <hilarie> w30 its not even showing up in gparted, is there some specific drivers to download?
[20:54] <NvrBst> Hello.  Question if I may.  If I start a screen, and start a x11 program, exit the screen, and re-enter the screen.  Is there a way to attach to the x11 program that is still running?
[20:54] <bekks> cablop: Any proof for that?
[20:54] <japro> and the asus bios shows me these uefi things one is called ubuntu the other windows boot manager, but putting the "ubuntu" one first will still boot windows
[20:54] <meowsus> bekks, and because this is a permanently connected drive it shouldn't matter that i use ASYNC since i'm not going to be unplugging it right after an RSYNC command
[20:54] <meowsus> ... i assume
[20:54] <riffautae> meowsus: sync will reduce the chances of disconnect while mounted corrupting
[20:54] <cablop> they said that because they write in some asynchronous way then it could lead to data corruption because it said to the system, that data was written but i wasn't
[20:54] <riffautae> meowsus: if you are not going to disconnect it use async it will be faster
[20:55] <sasori> hey, the screen says, allocate drive space by dragging the divider below.."files(82.0GB) 165.3GB" .. "Ubuntu 86.2 GB" ..does that mean 86.2GB , what does 86.2GB mean ?
[20:55] <bekks> cablop: Who are "they"?
[20:55] <riffautae> meowsus: that means the OS has more time to sort commands before writing
[20:55] <cablop> bekks: users, testers, dunno, i remembered that was the big issue when it was launched
[20:55] <meowsus> riffautae, bekks, awesome thank you guys
[20:55] <bekks> cablop: Which is ages ago now.
[20:55] <cablop> bekks: anyway, any improvement by using it instead of ext3?
[20:55] <bekks> cablop: Yes. Much more performance.
[20:56] <tunisian_lover> bonsoir à tous
[20:56] <sasori> hey, the screen says, allocate drive space by dragging the divider below.."files(82.0GB) 165.3GB" .. "Ubuntu 86.2 GB" ..does that mean 86.2GB , what does 86.2GB mean ?
[20:57] <cablop> bekks: even on top of lvm on top of dm-crypt?
[20:57] <sasori> is 86.2GB the whole size of ubuntu ?
[20:57] <bdrewery> NvrBst: no
[20:57] <riffautae> sasori: you will get fussed at if you repeat yourself. I wont be able to tell you without a screen shot
[20:57] <japro> cablop, in the bios there is a "boot override" option that allows me to boot into ubuntu but i can't put that drive into the boot ordre -.-
[20:57] <bekks> cablop: I never messed with dmcrypt, since I am not paranoid enough ;)
[20:57] <sasori> riffautae: 1 sec..uploading a screenshot now
[20:57] <cablop> bekks: lol xD
[20:57] <tunisian_lover> where c i can found a french chat for ubunto ?
[20:58] <bekks> tunisian_lover: #ubuntu-fr
[20:58] <tunisian_lover> thx
[20:58] <occupant> So I'm in a three monitor setup and I can't seem to specify the position of the launcher. Everything I read says that it's supposed to follow whatever the primary display is, but mine is staying on the leftmost display (whatever display I configure to be left) instead of the primary. anyone know if I can override this somehow?
[20:58] <NvrBst> bdrewery: okay thanks
[20:58] <gigastress_> hello guys
[20:58] <friskd> Hey all i just installed ubuntu desktop and gdb on a rackspace cloud server and am now trying to run Firefox, and it can't connect to the internet.
[20:58] <friskd> Why might that be
[20:59] <gigastress_> is there anyone who can help me with lvm and lucid
[20:59] <riffautae> occupant: are you on gnome2 or unity
[20:59] <riffautae> friskd: does it have a static ip? if so you need to set the default gatewayu
[20:59] <sasori> riffautae: here it is http://i.imgur.com/26nOt.png what to do next ?
[20:59] <occupant> riffautae: unity
[20:59] <friskd> riffautae:  yes it has a static ip.
[21:00] <riffautae> sasori: the thing on the right is how much space for ubuntu, the thing on the left is how mouch it leaves for windows
[21:00] <friskd> riffautae:  i can't ping from the server either...
[21:00] <friskd> or wget
[21:00] <riffautae> sasori: ubuntu will make all its partitions in that 86.2gb space area
[21:00] <riffautae> friskd: can you ping things on the same subnet?
[21:00] <riffautae> the gateway will let you out of the subnet
[21:00] <sasori> how to alter the space ? because, when I clicked the "advancedpartitioning tool" link at the bottom, nothing is happening
[21:01] <gigastress_> is there anyone who can help me with lvm and lucid
[21:01] <friskd> riffautae:  not sure what to test pinging .
[21:01] <riffautae> sasori: if you drag the line between the two areas it will let you adjust it
[21:01] <gigastress_> cant login on full disk encryption
[21:01] <friskd> riffautae:  its just a rackspace cloud server.
[21:01] <sasori> riffautae: lol..awesome :D
[21:01] <viliny> Hello!
[21:01] <hilarie> sup
[21:01] <riffautae> friskd: you might send them an email and ask what network settings to use so that you server can access the internet. other wise you have to guess what the gateway IP is
[21:01] <gigastress_> hello!
[21:02] <sasori> riffautae: what's the usual size of an ubuntu distro ?
[21:02] <occupant> riffautae: thinking I should try something other than unity?
[21:02] <gigastress_> is there anyone who can help me with lvm and lucid, > cant login on full disk encryption
[21:02] <viliny> i just installed amd64 version of the ubuntu server software, i installed ubuntu-desktop and startx:ed myself to a desktop. Now im having trouble with mounting a internal 2TB HD thats on this machine, it tells me:  Unable to mount 2.0 TB Filesystem Not authorized
[21:02] <NvrBst> Another Question: Is there a method/program to let a x11 app run, but, also be able to exit SSH?  VNC best/only option?
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> occupant: or a differnet ubuntu fork
[21:03] <viliny> any ideas?
[21:03] <riffautae> sasori: you can go as small as 20 prolly but that wont leave much for your own files
[21:03] <sasori> ok cool...thanks riffautae  :)
[21:03] <bekks> viliny: Then try mounting it manually.
[21:03] <IRsee> viliny: by what method are you mounting the device?
[21:03] <riffautae> sasori: you could figure ou what the minimum you need for windows fiels in the future will be and give the rest to ubuntu if you reallyt like linux :)
[21:03] <sasori> i gave it 80GB :D
[21:04] <riffautae> sasori: nice
[21:04] <viliny> IRsee, not in any particular manner, trying to access it on what i believe is nautilus on this abomination that is unity
[21:05] <gigastress_> is there anyone who can help me with lvm and lucid, > cant login on full disk encryption
[21:05] <friskd> riffautae: could it be something more simple.  I can't even do pings or wget and that stuff normally just works after a basic rackspace install.
[21:05] <friskd> could installing ubuntu desktop and gdb have caused something to stop this.
[21:05] <IRsee> gigastress: Do you know the password to unlock the disk?
[21:05] <riffautae> friskd: run ifconfig and see if eth# has an ip
[21:05] <grampass0> 2
[21:06] <gigastress_> riffautee> yez I have I even see the pw prompt after mz upgrade to lucid, but i wont accept
[21:06] <friskd> riffautae:  it does
[21:06] <viliny> also, why is the user accounts utility completely useless with everything greyed out here in unity?
[21:06] <friskd> and i can ping the server from the outside.
[21:06] <friskd> riffautae:  both eth0 and eth1 have ipts.
[21:07] <friskd> *ip;s.
[21:07] <friskd> ! ip's.
[21:07] <bekks> friskd: "ips".
[21:07] <spacebug-> in oneiric when trying to use a keyboard sortcut to run "soffice mydocument.ods" it sometimes (like 50%) of the times does not appear in the dock and there for is not in my alt+tab list. This worked perfectly in natty. (the program always launched though with my file as expected).
[21:07] <riffautae> friskd: run 'route' there should be an entry with 0.0.0.0 as the gen mask
[21:08] <friskd> riffautae:  there is
[21:08] <riffautae> friskd: huh, weird
[21:08] <japro> ok, i looks like grub still doesn't see my windows install
[21:08] <riffautae> friskd: try pinging 8.8.8.8 [thats a google dns server\
[21:08] <japro> can i manually tell it how to boot to windows?
[21:08] <friskd> riffautae:  that works.
[21:08] <riffautae> japro: did you reboot after the install to see this
[21:09] <riffautae> friskd: its a dns issue
[21:09] <gigastress_> IRsee[21:09] <friskd> rfolco:  pingin google.com doesn't work
[21:09] <japro> riffautae, yep, rebooted multiple times
[21:09] <friskd> but the ips do work.
[21:09] <japro> also "update-grub" doesn't mention windows
[21:09] <riffautae> japro: does the ubuntu one work? if so you might have to manually put in the entry
[21:09] <kraken> friskd:try ping -c 5 8.8.8.8
[21:10] <friskd> kraken: that works.
[21:10] <japro> yes i sorted that out, i get the list and see the linux kernels and the usual memtest stuff
[21:10] <friskd> i just pinged the actuall address of another server and that works.
[21:10] <friskd> it appears   doing the actual names doesn't work.
[21:10] <kraken> friskd: now ifconfig -a
[21:10] <friskd> kraken: then what?
[21:10] <riffautae> friskd: the windows thing is in grub but the entry doesnt work?
[21:11] <japro> riffautae, nono, it isn't there in the first place
[21:11] <friskd> if i ping 8.8.8.8 it works. if i ping google.com it doesn't.
[21:11] <riffautae> japro: ok just making sure
[21:11] <riffautae> friskd: you need to set up your name server
[21:12] <friskd> locally?
[21:12] <friskd> how?
[21:12] <riffautae> friskd: err not sure
[21:12] <riffautae> friskd: oh /etc/resolve.conf
[21:12] <riffautae> friskd: oh /etc/resolv.conf !!
[21:13] <wayne> I have a question, I installed xubuntu on a pc thats from 2003 was this the best idea.
[21:13] <riffautae> wayne: i dont see why not
[21:13] <wayne> Linux mint doesn't run correctly on this machine, I thought xubuntu was the best
[21:13] <wayne> I tried puppy dog linux but didn't like it...
[21:13] <go8765_off_away> wayne, you may try crunchbanglinux.org too
[21:13] <riffautae> wayne: if thats too slow as well you might try pure debian or something
[21:13] <reisio> why would you
[21:14] <cablop> wayne: xubuntu or lubuntu, but a full ubuntu is very good for that, even kubuntu works on it
[21:14] <gigastress_> IRsee, did you see my message?
[21:14] <redlion> hello
[21:14] <wayne> I have the debian iso but.. It doesn't seem setup for wifi so I took it off and went to xubuntu 10.4 or something I hope this is correct
[21:15] <cablop> wayne, can you give us the specs of that computer?
[21:15] <wayne> Hold on one sec.
[21:16] <wayne> Is there a command I can to tell me the details?
[21:16] <reisio> wayne: grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo
[21:16] <wayne> I can run* sorry I just got off work typos are killing me
[21:16] <friskd> If i just shared the output of ifconfig -A with kraken... then he took off.  Is he going to try and hack me?
[21:17] <friskd> riffautae: I looked in /etc/resolv.conf
[21:17] <lauratika> some how i cant change icons and fonts in all my browsers shows very ugly... any idea what can be the issue... ubuntu 11.10 unity
[21:17] <wayne> cpu MHz		: 2131.884
[21:17] <friskd> just one line in there
[21:17] <viliny> how do i go about going back to gnome on 10.10?
[21:17] <reisio> wayne: free -m, under total
[21:18] <reisio> viliny: from what?
[21:18] <riffautae> friskd: not if you have iptables set up ;)
[21:18] <viliny> from unity i guess
[21:18] <viliny> this is cumbersome
[21:18] <reisio> viliny: you're using unity on 10.10?
[21:18] <riffautae> friskd: add 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' to it and see if you can ping google
[21:18] <viliny> yes reisio
[21:18] <friskd> riffautae:  that worked!
[21:18] <wayne> http://pastebin.com/j9REYeX4
[21:18] <friskd> So what do i need to do. get the rackspace name servers?
[21:19] <friskd> or can i just use googles?
[21:19] <riffautae> friskd: :D ok so you can just use that or you can ask rackspace if they have a local nameserver for you to use
[21:19] <friskd> any reason not to use googles?
[21:19] <riffautae> friskd: no not really, but remember google is under no obligation to keep them running
[21:19] <friskd> gotcha
[21:19] <reisio> wayne: pretty good so far
[21:19] <reisio> wayne: lspci | grep -i vga
[21:20] <cablop> wayne, i was using this computer, pretty old too, 2GB RAM DDR, Athlon XP 1.9 GHz 32 bit, and 160 GB disk using Gnome or Kubuntu it was ok, i used a nVidia graphics card, to cope with graphics, and it was pretty ok, better than xubuntu or lubuntu
[21:20] <riffautae> friskd: you can add 8.8.4.4 as well for their other one
[21:20] <riffautae> friskd: if one goes down it will use the other
[21:20] <viliny> i need to either be able to configure my user to be allowed to mount stuff or get gnome back on this thing... right now im getting very frustrated with this joke that is unity
[21:20] <Ethern0T> haillo
[21:20] <wayne> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
[21:20] <riffautae> wayne: D: s3
[21:20] <viliny> so please, if anyone can give any tips on how to get gnome back on this thing i'd be more than greatful
[21:20] <cablop> wayne: it was able to run compiz and the common stable effects of it, so, i think ubuntu or xubuntu would be ok on that machine
[21:21] <wayne> It only plays resident evil 2 and 3
[21:21] <wayne> Its really old, I wanna new one but I have too many bills so I must use this
[21:21] <lauratika> anyone?
[21:21] <reisio> wayne: pretty decent, though, you could probably take your pick, but if you like Xubuntu there's no particularly reason to stop using it
[21:21] <templet> viliny, simple run 11.04 and choose gnome instead of unity -- i think that works ?
[21:21] <reisio> lauratika: I'm a one
[21:21] <wayne> Sweet. For some reason Linux Mint wasn't stable on this machine.
[21:22] <reisio> templet: said he's on 10.10
[21:22] <cablop> wayne, cannot you get an external AGP card? it is the only problem of your computer, but besides that use it with ubuntu 10.04 or ubuntu 10.10 and use matacity, it will be ok
[21:22] <lauratika> oneness
[21:22] <cablop> wayne: how much ram do you have?
[21:22] <reisio> wayne: that's odd, but in the past
[21:22] <pcpower> people still have AGP cards?
[21:22] <wayne> I have 2 GB/s off DDR I think
[21:22] <reisio> people with AGP slots have
[21:22] <gigastress_> is there anyone who can help me with lvm and lucid. cant login on full disk encryption
[21:22] <friskd> Thank you riffautae
[21:23] <riffautae> wayne: :D
[21:23] <wayne> Its not DDR2 I don't really know the type I took it out of another pc for this one
[21:23] <qcode> hi
[21:23] <reisio> hi q
[21:23] <riffautae> wayne: you can try a local good will, there are some that keep electronics and computer stuff and might have a better card for like 10$
[21:24] <riffautae> wayne: i think i have seen older radeons in there before
[21:24] <wayne> I have 3 hard drives (First Master Slave) Second Master (Third Secondary Slave) My Master Slave is 500 GB/s and has 18 Bad spots
[21:24] <Uns0b1ll> what was command to view specifics of Nic card forgot
[21:24] <riffautae> Uns0b1ll: ifconfing ?
[21:24] <reisio> Uns0b1ll: lspci | grep -i net
[21:25] <Uns0b1ll> yes lspci thanks
[21:25] <cablop> wayne: as far as SMART says it is ok, you canlive with those 18 bad spots, it is harder to live with a dead pixel on the screen
[21:25] <wayne> I/O errors
[21:25] <Uns0b1ll> any1 had good luck enabling QinQ on Adaptec Nics ?
[21:25] <Uns0b1ll> or vlan tagging
[21:25] <cablop> and... i see that computer pretty similar to mine except the AGP, but i was running ubuntu and kubuntu on it and being able to run a VM with WinXP on it too
[21:26] <wayne> I have my OS on the 500 GB hdd, it goes up to almost 400 GB/s then I/O ERROR
[21:26] <riffautae> wayne: 400 GB/s????
[21:26] <reisio> yes a 2+GHz proc and 2+GB RAM is quite decent
[21:26] <wayne> Its a 500 gb hdd
[21:26] <wayne> Old IDE
[21:26] <wayne> for like almost 3 years ago
[21:26] <wayne> from*
[21:26] <riffautae> wayne: GB/s is a speed measurement
[21:26] <riffautae> wayne: i am not sure what you meant there
[21:26] <reisio> obviously he meant GBs
[21:26] <wayne> woops
[21:26] <cablop> yup
[21:27] <riffautae> wayne: oh you mean when formating it?
[21:27] <riffautae> wayne: try badblocks on it
[21:27] <wayne> I mean like data wise onto the hdd its 500 gbs and only stores like 380 somewhere close to 400gbs
[21:27] <reisio> uhuh
[21:28] <reisio> outside of starting a media collection, you really only need like... 30
[21:28] <wayne> After it hits that marker it says I/O ERROR
[21:28] <wayne> But now I know the bad sectors are their can they be removed or fixed?
[21:28] <riffautae> wayne: i think bad blocks can avoid them
[21:29] <bekks> wayne: Neither nor. They can be avoided.
[21:29] <wayne> I see, you have to just push them to the very back, probably why it doesn't work to the end
[21:29] <cablop> wayne except if the damage is about the circuits
[21:29] <cablop> i suggest you to use the other two disks if you can until you're able to buy a better disk replacement
[21:30] <riffautae> wayne: in the mean time use this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badblocks
[21:30] <cablop> if you are in a bad shape and needing to pay bills don't put your wallet onto that disk
[21:30] <wayne> It was an external drive and man was it loud
[21:30] <wayne> WD isn't the best
[21:30] <cablop> (bad economic shape, of course xD)
[21:30] <riffautae> wayne: WD, like all manufacturers is hit and miss
[21:31] <reisio> older externals are louder than newer
[21:31] <reisio> supplies supplies
[21:31] <japro> what exactely do i have to do to change the grub configuration? i edited 40_custom and did grub-mkconfig but now the list is gone alltogether
[21:31] <wayne> Would you know if linux needs a wifi card or not? I have this netgear usb card and linux seems to not pick it up as well.
[21:31] <reisio> wayne: which one?
[21:31] <riffautae> japro: sorry i dont know, maybe #grub exists and has friendly people? if so i bet they can help
[21:31] <wayne> Which linux or wifi card?
[21:31] <reisio> wayne: ...wifi card
[21:32] <wayne> Wireless N USB Adapter NetGear
[21:32] <adrellias> japro: ubuntus just is not a standard way of doing grub config
[21:32] <adrellias> i edited the file but will have to look which one i edited
[21:32] <adrellias> to get my windows partition to boot
[21:32] <reisio> well, Ubuntu uses GRUB2 is all
[21:32] <adrellias> 2 seconds
[21:33] <reisio> and GRUB2 is a little less straightforward than 1
[21:33] <adrellias> reisio: with non standard config files
[21:33] <reisio> adrellias: no they're standard
[21:33] <adrellias> doesnt look standard in the sense off my centos or gentoo server
[21:33] <adrellias> but in anycase
[21:33] <reisio> adrellias: how is your Gentoo different?
[21:33] <adrellias> will look for which ones i edited
[21:33] <adrellias> /boot/grub.conf or menu.lst is all i needed to edit with ubuntu that was not the case
[21:34] <reisio> that's because that's GRUB1
[21:34] <wayne> Wireless-N USB Adapter > WN111 v2
[21:34] <reisio> Ubuntu uses GRUB2
[21:34] <adrellias> ahhhhh
[21:34] <adrellias> havent updated my grub then hehehe
[21:34] <reisio> and GRUB2, again, is a little... strange :p
[21:34] <gigastress_> is there anyone who can help me with lvm and lucid. cant login on full disk encryption
[21:34] <reisio> adrellias: it's not stable in Gentoo yet, arguably for good reason
[21:34] <adrellias> reisio: thanks for putting me right :)
[21:34] <cablop> wayne i sugest you to test that 500 GB drive before with a live CD, and your computer is pretty able to run a live CD
[21:35] <reisio> even in Ubuntu it is still version 1.99, which signifies a version still in development, as you probably know
[21:35] <Xbert> Apparmor is not showing Firefox as enforced when it running, Firefox is set to be enforced, can anyone help me?
[21:36] <japro> yeah, grub is really unreasonable atm
[21:36] <japro> first i at least managed that it showed the list
[21:36] <japro> but now it again just boots straight to ubuntu
[21:36] <japro> argh
[21:36] <reisio> adrellias: be a little less confusing in Gentoo, because nothing automagickally runs the commands that update the config files, you do it yourself
[21:37] <lauratika> i have a mayor issue in here, i cant change fonts or icon set, or themes on ubuntu 11.10 unity and gnome... but in guest account things are working perfect. what can be wrong?? any ubunturette with the know how?
[21:37] <adrellias> reisio: yep i had to edit the file myself
[21:37] <adrellias> japro: to show grub you need to hold in the shift key after your pc does its post
[21:37] <jsstn> question : is there a way to configure three monitors on ubuntu using a display card and uv++
[21:37] <reisio> adrellias: I mean for GRUB2, you'll still have to do that, basically, in Gentoo
[21:37] <japro> do i have to run grub-mkconfig or update-grub to "upload" the config file?
[21:38] <wayne> So I just boot my live disk and scan the hard drive?
[21:38] <sasori> hi, where to change the settings of this 11.04 ubuntu's auto lockdown?..because it automatically locks out after a few minutes of being idle :S
[21:38] <riffautae> sasori: the screensaver should have options for that
[21:39] <japro> adrellias, shift doesn't help
[21:39] <japro> i just get the pink screen and then the ubuntu login prompt
[21:39] <sasori> ok
[21:39] <japro> maybe i already screwed something up, can i "reload" the default config?
[21:40] <Malgorath> hey all, was wondering if I install the xfce4 desktop on ubuntu (xfce-desktop package) will that mess up my ability to play games and do 3d animation? I'm just not liking this unity stuff so much.
[21:40] <adrellias> japro: you need to hold shift before the pink screen.
[21:40] <adrellias> japro: what i usually do is smack it alot after the post screen
[21:40] <adrellias> japro: this is how i added a custom entry to my grub list
[21:40] <adrellias> http://pastebin.com/5wtrFz71
[21:40] <adrellias> not saying its right but its worked for me
[21:41] <riffautae> Malgorath: no it should not mess with any of that at all
[21:41] <Malgorath> riffautae, okay thanks i'm gonna try it now
[21:42] <lauratika> ideas please?
[21:42] <bsmith093> for scripting, how do i tell the shell to do for all with cbz extension
[21:42] <bbbbbbbb> how do i mount my usb card reader? the card doesnt show up in fdisk, but the reader is in lsusb
[21:43] <adrellias> reisio: ahh yeah havent used grub too until ubuntu :) so yeah i was missinformed
[21:43] <adrellias> hehe
[21:43] <adrellias> japro: did you get the past bin ?
[21:43] <cablop> noob, but necessary question, can i chroot a 64bit linux from a 32bit linux?
[21:43] <bekks> bbbbbbbb: If the card doesnt show up, there is something wrong.
[21:43] <jsstn> @  cablop  : yes
[21:44] <japro> adrellias, yep, saw it
[21:44] <bbbbbbbb> bekks: i have had this issue with this reader all along. the last time someone here helped me and i got it running in the end - only i forgot how
[21:45] <Gskellig> whats a good (basic) paint program for ubuntu
[21:45] <Gskellig> i want less functionality than GIMP but more than mspaint
[21:45] <adrellias> nways im off reisio thanks for the chat :)
[21:45] <riffautae> bbbbbbbb: is there a line in dmesg giving it a /dev/sd* ?
[21:46] <bbbbbbbb> riffautae: no, then i wouldn't ask ^^
[21:46] <riffautae> bbbbbbbb: hey you never know, many people here are pretty new
[21:46] <zykotick9> jsstn, are you "sure" about that?
[21:47] <kusznir> Hi all: Can anyone tell me how to force ubuntu 11.04 to to use the intel driver instead of vesa on X?
[21:47] <kusznir> (preferably the "ubuntu way")
[21:47] <jsstn> @ Gskellig : Gnome-paint 
[21:47] <Gskellig> thankyou
[21:48] <vick> how do I get my ubuntu  web server to stop swapping?
[21:48] <bekks> vick: By bying more RAM.
[21:48] <vick> bekks, I have 768 mb of ram, should be enough for a web server no?
[21:49] <bekks> vick: Depending on the load - maybe. Maybe not. In your case, it isnt enough, right? :)
[21:49] <templet> vick, may i pm you ?
[21:49] <vick> bekks, almost no load, maybe 100 visitors a day in total.
[21:49] <vick> templet, sure
[21:49] <[conrad]> vick: That's a pretty loose statement. You have load, the potential for other processes like SQL servers to be using the memory, and others that could be getting in the way.
[21:50] <bbbbbbbb> here, this is what dmesg tells me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/725770/
[21:50] <zykotick9> cablop, i know it's possible to chroot from 64to32, but i don't think 32to64 is possible (i could be wrong)
[21:50] <riffautae> vick: what other software do you have running on your server
[21:51] <t_pol> hey there, i need to make a partial installation but i am getting errors, lots "failed to fetch ... "deb packets, and then i am asked to check my "installation media" could somebody help me through that?
[21:51] <bekks> zykotick9: cablop: chrooting into 32bit from 64bit is possible. Vice versa isnt.
[21:51] <[conrad]> Hello everyone.  I'm using the latest Ubuntu ( 11.10 )'s OMAP port. I'm trying to change the resolution at the boot level from the default 1280x720, to 1024x768. I've tried issuing what seems to be the proper setenv commands and running mkimage, but the next boot is still at 1280x720. Does anyone have any other suggestions for getting this change in place?
[21:51] <zykotick9> bekks, ya - that was my understanding as well
[21:51] <savid> Is there a way to trigger a script to be executed when a new monitor is plugged in?
[21:52] <vick> riffautae, just the lamp stack, didn't install anything else.
[21:52] <savid> I currently don't have a way to make my LCD display the primary screen by default. I always have to set it with XRandr.  I'm hoping there's a way to automate that.
[21:52] <gigastress_> anyone who can help with luks lvm and lucid????
[21:52] <riffautae> vick: X or anything? how do you knwo it is swapping? linux always uses a litle
[21:53] <vick> no X
[21:53] <vick> just a pure install on linode VPS
[21:53] <vick> pure install of ubuntu 10.04 and then lamp stack on top
[21:54] <riffautae> vick: k how do you know it is swapping? bad performance or is top listing some swap used?
[21:54] <vick> I get notifications on high IO
[21:54] <riffautae> vick: from linode? or is this the system logging that
[21:54] <vick> disk IO rate high
[21:54] <vick> linode sends automatic notifcations when the disk IO is high
[21:54] <bobweaver> Hello there I am trying "key word" to make a gtl interface for some perl that I have modified. I am using Glade to do this there is only one button. that is it that needs to react when pressed. I have entered in the command when clicked. and I have run it with glade-preview -f <filename>  and it is still not working any tips or hints ?
[21:54] <bobweaver> gtk *
[21:55] <vick> and high IO comes from swapping right?
[21:55] <riffautae> vick: not necissarily though it can
[21:55] <bbbbbbbb> i don't get my card reader working. this is what dmesg tells me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/725776/
[21:55] <Uns0b1ll> how can i install advanced utlities software for my adaptec nic cards on ubuntu ?  thanks !
[21:55] <vick> riffautae, I think in this case it is ... when I reboot it goes back to being normal.
[21:55] <vick> this server used to be 256 and was running fine!! now it's 768.
[21:55] <vick> should be enough
[21:55] <riffautae> vick: check top to see if your mem is full and swap has a lot
[21:55] <vick> riffautae, I just restarted, so I can't do that now.
[21:56] <Dark_Apostrophe> Hello, how does one disable NotifyOSD notifications?
[21:56] <Xbert> Apparmor is not showing Firefox as enforced when it running, Firefox is set to be enforced, can anyone help me?
[21:56] <riffautae> vick: you'll have to monitor the system to see whats doing it then. it might also be a bug in some script you are running on the web server
[21:57] <vick> riffautae, ok, how do I monitor? I run top and see what processses are consuming most ram?
[21:57] <riffautae> vick: the correct way to fix trashing on something like that is to find out whats using all your ram and tell it to cut it out
[21:57] <riffautae> vick: yea
[21:57] <vick> im gonna try jmeter :)
[21:57] <riffautae> vick: thrashing*
[21:57] <B0g4r7> I ran Update Manager on my one Lucid vm that hasn't been updated in a while, and it downloaded like 280 updated packages, but 9 of the downloads failed with 404 errors.
[21:57] <riffautae> vick: thats fine i assume, i think there are io watchers but i dont know any
[21:57] <augustl> hi. How do I create a bootable USB stick when I don't already have ubuntu...?
[21:57] <B0g4r7> Is it OK to let it "continue" or will those missing packages cause a problem?
[21:57] <cablop> what is that ahci thing on a SATA port?
[21:58] <theshadow> Ubuntu Natty, Dell Vostro 3750, Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[21:58] <Xbert> augustl, use unetbootin on withdows
[21:58] <theshadow> ack sorry, it's freezing randomly
[21:58] <riffautae> B0g4r7: no dont force it
[21:58] <augustl> Xbert: I only have Linux, though
[21:58] <reisio> augustl: you can use unetbootin in Linux, too
[21:58] <Xbert> augustl, there is a linux version  as well
[21:58] <olewolf> I've created a Debian package that I'd like to propose for inclusion in one of the Ubuntu repository, probably multiverse. Where do I find information on how to propose a package for Ubuntu?
[21:58] <augustl> ah, cool
[21:58] <riffautae> cablop: a replacement protocol thingy over ide style
[21:58] <B0g4r7> It says "Some of the packages could not be retrieved from the server(s).  Do you want to continue, ignoring these packages?"
[21:59] <Dark_Apostrophe> How does one disable NotifyOSD notifications?
[21:59] <skyball> Is there a channel for Ubuntu One ?
[21:59] <reisio> skyball: #ubuntuone
[21:59] <B0g4r7> It's looking for things that don't exist on the server
[21:59] <B0g4r7> For instance, http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/e/empathy/empathy_2.30.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[21:59] <reisio> skyball: ffr: /msg alis list *ubun*one*
[21:59] <skyball> thanks
[21:59] <bobweaver> no one uses Glade areound here ?
[21:59] <gigastress_> is there someone who has expereince with lvm fulldiskencryption and lucid 10.4?
[21:59] <bobweaver> around *(
[22:00] <riffautae> B0g4r7: I dont know that its a good idea to do that, you might try again later or change which mirror you are using
[22:00] <lauratika> help a sis...
[22:00] <bobweaver> gigastress_,  I have nbothing on that but would true crypt work ?
[22:00] <riffautae> bobweaver: true crypt is slower
[22:00] <jsebean> hello
[22:00] <B0g4r7> Well, I had let it run overnight when it initially failed.  Now 16h later it's still failing.
[22:01] <reisio> jsebean: hi
[22:01] <riffautae> gigastress_: i have done it on arch linux
[22:01] <bobweaver> riffautae,  like I said I have nothing on that :>)
[22:01] <jsebean> I'm having a problem installing ubuntu 11.10 and it's getting to be frustrating. I've installed Ubuntu (successfully) but when I boot my monitor says the resolution is bad and to use 1440x900 so I can't even see anything. How can I fix this?
[22:02] <theshadow> Alright, let's try again. I'm having an issue where the laptop will randomly hang. It completely locks up can't even ssh in to look at logs/state http://paste.ubuntu.com/725779/ Can anyone help me figure it out? It started recently, exactly? I don't know but within the last two weeks.
[22:02] <cablop> how can i install the gnome3 full on ubuntu via cli?
[22:02] <B0g4r7> I think I'll take a VM snapshot and then let it proceed.  If it dies I can roll back.
[22:02] <reisio> cablop: what version
[22:02] <cablop> ubuntu 11.10, gnome 3
[22:02] <jsebean> I'm having a problem installing ubuntu 11.10. I've installed Ubuntu (successfully) but when I boot my monitor says the resolution is bad and to use 1440x900 so I can't even see anything. How can I fix this?
[22:03] <zykotick9> !nounity | cablop
[22:03] <kusznir> Hi all: Can anyone tell me how to force ubuntu 11.04 to to use the intel xorg driver instead of vesa?
[22:03] <jsebean> I'm having a problem installing ubuntu 11.10. I've installed Ubuntu (successfully) but when I boot my monitor says the resolution is bad and to use 1440x900 so I can't even see anything. How can I fix this?
[22:03] <cablop> thanks zykotick9
[22:04] <zykotick9> !patience | jsebean
[22:04] <bobweaver> I will put togeather a source package maybe some one will look  at it for me :>)      http://www.mediafire.com/?ac8efsylw4k9b7p
[22:04] <cablop> for some stupid reason it is not recognizing the swap on the encrypted device, sigh
[22:05] <jsebean> I'm having a problem installing ubuntu 11.10. I've installed Ubuntu (successfully) but when I boot my monitor says the resolution is bad and to use 1440x900 so I can't even see anything. How can I fix this?
[22:06] <j3n5> exit
[22:06] <zykotick9> jsebean, stop it.  Wait 15-30 minutes before repeating your question
[22:06] <cablop> anyone here liking gnome 3?
[22:06] <bobweaver> what the program does is look for flash still in browser and puts it in your Videos folder
[22:06] <jsebean> @zykotick9 i have been waiting
[22:07] <reisio> jsebean: hit CTRL+ALT+F2, run DISPLAY=:0 xrandr
[22:07] <reisio> jsebean: DISPLAY=:0 xrandr -s # to change
[22:07] <reisio> jsebean: CTRL+ALT+F7 to get back to X
[22:07] <bbbbbbbb> i don't get my card reader working. this is what dmesg tells me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/725776/
[22:08] <augustl> unetbootin doesn't seem to be able to install the bootloader on Arch Linux
[22:08] <augustl> why aren't there hybrid and/or plain imgs for ubuntu? Kinda strange.
[22:08] <reisio> augustl: ?
[22:08] <B0g4r7> jsebean, How is the monitor connected?  vga?  dvi?  hdmi?
[22:09] <augustl> reisio: the files on ubuntu.com are only for CDs
[22:09] <jsebean> B0g4r7: VGA
[22:09] <cablop> think things this way, i am on Gnome 2.x and moving ahead to another GUI, what is the best option, Gnome3, KDE or XFCE?
[22:09] <reisio> augustl: no they aren't
[22:09] <augustl> unetbootin is currently stuck at 33% on "Installing Bootloader"
[22:09] <zykotick9> augustl, 11.10 is hybrid
[22:09] <augustl> ah!
[22:09] <reisio> augustl: give it time
[22:09] <augustl> if they're hybrid then I'm all good :)
[22:09] <augustl> dd happy time
[22:09] <jsebean> the Ctrl+alt+f2 not working for me either
[22:09] <augustl> thanks folks
[22:09] <wayne> Hey I can't get my sound to work on xubuntu
[22:10] <B0g4r7> jsebean, is it possible to use DVI or HDMI, or is VGA the only option?
[22:10] <reisio> jsebean: how about CTRL+ALT+PrntScrn+k
[22:10] <jsebean> B0g4r7: hi afraid not
[22:10] <jsebean> reisio: sorry
[22:10] <wayne> Anybody know anything about xubuntu
[22:11] <reisio> wayne: yes
[22:11] <xdhausx> anybody has been tried bodhi linux here?
[22:11] <zykotick9> wayne, i'd bet the people in #xubuntu do
[22:11] <wayne> Its not muted I dunno whats going on
[22:11] <bbbbbbbb> i don't get my CF card mounted. this is what dmesg tells me about the reader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/725776/
[22:11] <zykotick9> !ot > xdhausx
[22:11] <bobweaver> Is there something that I can use to make a gui applications that is wrintin in bash ?
[22:11] <augustl> who's responsible for the web page on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download ? That site doesn't say they're hybrid images
[22:12] <bobweaver> or made for bash I should say
[22:12] <jsebean> im not sure what's going on :S
[22:12] <windparadise> hello, pls I am in trouble, can you please assist? I am trying to set up a control panel which requires a valid fqdn. meanwhile when I typed     hostname --fqdn  I had berylhost.com instead of expecting to have mx.berylhost.com    what should I do please ?
[22:12] <wayne> Doesn't seem possible to use sound
[22:12] <B0g4r7> jsebean, it sounds like the monitor is being driven wrong by the video card.  What kind of monitor is it, and what kind of video card?
[22:12] <cablop> wayne: xubuntu uses xfce that is based on gtk like gnome is, so if your poor performance is due to graphics it is not going to help too much, run gnome with metacity instead of other things and it will be the same in your machine
[22:12] <nsl> hi
[22:13] <cablop> wayne: anyway if you insist on moving to a lihter GUI then try LXDE instead
[22:13] <jsebean> B0g4r7: Dell monitor and Nvidia
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> wayne: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[22:13] <reisio> bobweaver: #bash would know
[22:13] <chaospsychex> what is the package name of ubuntu 3?
[22:13] <Dark_Apostrophe> How does one disable NotifyOSD notifications?
[22:13] <zykotick9> !nounity | chaospsychex
[22:14] <[_miT_]> Dark_Apostrophe: why would you want to do that? lol
[22:14] <glebihan> bobweaver, depends on what you need exactly
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: there is no ubuntu 3
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> Dark_Apostrophe: for what app?
[22:14] <Dark_Apostrophe> mit: because they're annoying :P
[22:14] <nsl> i just installed ubuntu 11.10 and im reading guide how to move x, minimise and maximise buttons to the right like on wihdows... it says to press alt+f2 and to write gconf-editor, but i cant open it :S
[22:14] <[_miT_]> Dark_Apostrophe: awwww
[22:14] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip, i assumed chaospsychex must mean gnome3
[22:14] <B0g4r7> jsebean, if you can switch it to a lower resolution it may become happy.  ...I don't know  how to do that myself, blind.
[22:14] <Dark_Apostrophe> Across the board, the lot. Though if there is an app I can adjust them selectively, that might work, too
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> nsl: try dconf-editor
[22:15] <jsebean> B0g4r7: I'm not even sure if it's booting
[22:15] <wayne> http://pastebin.com/CMvY2dyK <<<
[22:15] <[_miT_]> i just hit my knee so hard on the desk > <
[22:15] <jsebean> B0g4r7: ive been searching around
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> Dark_Apostrophe: you may be able to remove notify-osd package, not sure what else it will remove
[22:15] <nsl> still nothing
[22:15] <Tunix> How do I boot into a gnome enviroment in . instead of unity???\
[22:15] <B0g4r7> jsebean, what if you use crtl-alt-f1 to switch to text mode?
[22:15] <reisio> Tunix: what version
[22:15] <Tunix> 11.10
[22:15] <Tunix> reisio
[22:16] <nsl> it's like run application isn't working for me
[22:16] <reisio> Tunix: you have to install gnome-shell / gnome-tweak-tool / gnome-panel
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: did you mean Gnome3? If so, what is the outut of:  lsb_release -sc
[22:16] <reisio> Tunix: then it'll be an option from the cog next to your name on the login screen
[22:16] <jsebean> B0g4r7: computer acts dead, no hdd activity, nothing, simple message on monitor Cannot display this video mode use 1440x900 60hz and no buttons does everything
[22:16] <Tunix> thank you ill dpo that now
[22:16] <Tunix> do*
[22:16] <jsebean> B0g4r7: anything*/everything
[22:16] <glebihan> Tunix, if by gnome you mean gnome2, you can't
[22:17] <Tunix> sooo
[22:17] <Tunix> Gnome 3?
[22:17] <reisio> Tunix: what I said
[22:17] <reisio> Tunix: you might feel the same way about it as you do about Unity, though
[22:17] <Tunix> got it ill open snaptic now
[22:17] <wayne> Should I install another linux ?
[22:17] <reisio> wayne: why?
[22:17] <pp7> NO!!
[22:17] <Tunix> reisio: Should I just stick with unity then?
[22:17] <Tunix> I really dont like it
[22:18] <wayne> why ? What?
[22:18] <reisio> Tunix: I'm personally not a big fan of using things I don't like
[22:18] <pp7> Tunix: what's wrong with unity?
[22:18] <glebihan> Tunix, try gnome-shell then you'll see if you like it better
[22:18] <B0g4r7> jsebean, you can try changing the boot options to boot into verbose text mode to see what's going on.  Hold the shift key on boot to get to the GRUB menu.  Edit the options there and remove the "quiet" and "splash" options.
[22:18] <nsl> shit now i did something and i dont see x, minimise buttons if window isn't maximised lol :S
[22:19] <reisio> Tunix: if it's old GNOME you want, your options are these: install an older version of Ubuntu and hope that before it hits EOL GNOME 2 will be maintained again, or GNOME 3 will be transformable into being like GNOME 2, or use Xfce
[22:19] <reisio> Tunix: or you could personally take on making GNOME 3 be like GNOME 2, of course
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> wayne: if you give the output of the command I gave, we may be able to resolve your sound issue
[22:19] <Tunix> reisio: Can I install Xfce like I would Gnome-shell?
[22:19] <reisio> Tunix: yes: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[22:19] <wayne> http://pastebin.com/CMvY2dyK
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> Tunix: yes
[22:20] <reisio> Tunix: technically it's just the xubuntu-desktop package, but if you don't remove the other things your menus and the like end up being confusing
[22:20] <wayne> ^ I did the pastebin thing
[22:20] <IsmAvatar> Hey guys, can I get a little sound help? I'm trying to copy over the LiveCD sound settings to my working install, because my working install plays static, but the LiveCD doesn't. Where do I find these settings?
[22:20] <reisio> wayne: sound isn't working?
[22:20] <Tunix> reisio: It looks like the commands you sent me do all that
[22:20] <reisio> IsmAvatar: did you try lowering PCM?
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> wayne: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ricotz/unstable;  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:20] <reisio> Tunix: yes precisely
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> wayne: source: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> wayne: did you ever see that page?
[22:21] <daniel_> i have just installed ubuntu (dual boot, i also have an arch install) and my bootloader is all messed up
[22:21] <IsmAvatar> reisio: yes. It lowered the volume, but the speaker volume knob couldn't compensate sufficiently. LiveCD, however, works perfectly, even with PCM at 100%.
[22:22] <wayne> I think so
[22:22] <daniel_> should be on its own partition /dev/sda1  (/boot)
[22:22] <daniel_> i have ubuntu /dev/sda5  and arch /dev/sda3
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> wayne: then you would have added the PPA and got a significantly later Alsa version which can help lots
[22:22] <daniel_> can someone tell me how to reinstall grub so that it detects these two and brings up the menu? i managed to boot this time from the grub command prompt
[22:22] <chaospsychex> i meant the gnome 3 desktop-standard
[22:23] <wayne> still no sounds, I think I'll just pick another linux
[22:23] <chaospsychex> how do i install it
[22:23] <chaospsychex> not gnome 2
[22:23] <chaospsychex> gnome 3
[22:23] <wayne> What linux is the best for this 2003 pc
[22:23] <reisio> wayne: any
[22:23] <reisio> chaospsychex: gnome-shell / gnome-tweak-tool / gnome-panel
[22:23] <reisio> Tunix: oh and there's
[22:24] <wayne> Not really I've found Mint to be rather slow
[22:24] <wayne> and unstable
[22:24] <Tunix> reisio: Getting errors with that command
[22:24] <glebihan> reisio, no need for gnome-panel
[22:24] <reisio> Tunix: gnome-session-fallback
[22:24] <Tunix> whats that?
[22:24] <chaospsychex> i installed gnome-shell how do i boot into it
[22:24] <Tunix> A window management system?
[22:24] <reisio> glebihan: no need for a lot of things
[22:24] <reisio> chaospsychex: log out, hit the cog next to your name
[22:24] <glebihan> reisio, I meant that gnome3 does not use gnome-panel
[22:24] <BetaArc> Hi... questionm, my Intel N570 Dual core cpu is getting hot.. like 76C.. I have watched some streams, etc.
[22:24] <reisio> Tunix: supposed to make GNOME 3 more like GNOME 2, or something
[22:24] <BetaArc> Is this normal
[22:24] <chaospsychex> reisio: and choose which one?
[22:24] <chaospsychex> gnome?
[22:25] <chaospsychex> that is gnome 2
[22:25] <reisio> glebihan: and I meant that there's no need for a lot of things
[22:25] <reisio> chaospsychex: what Ubuntu version?
[22:25] <glebihan> reisio, but why telling him to install a package he surely won't need ?
[22:25] <napalm54> Has anyone tried out bumblebee on ubuntu for nvidia optimus laptops?
[22:25] <IsmAvatar> So, where do I find the sound settings to copy over from LiveCD to working install?
[22:25] <reisio> glebihan: he doesn't need any of them
[22:25] <reisio> napalm54: some people have
[22:25] <glebihan> reisio, nvm
[22:26] <Tunix> reisio: Im not seeing Gnome Panel
[22:26] <BetaArc> napalm54: yes on Archlinux
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: press ALT+F2 and run:  gnome-shell --replace
[22:26] <reisio> Tunix: where?
[22:26] <napalm54> Ok cool, I been having some issues with using the Intel HD 3000 gpu, or atleast that is what I think the problem lies
[22:27] <Tunix> reisio: You told me to install Gnome shell / gnome tweak tool and gnome-panel im only seeing the first two in the package manager
[22:27] <Tunix> or "software center"
[22:27] <napalm54> Many things programs that use OpenGL say that I do not have opengl
[22:27] <BetaArc> napalm54: what is the problem?
[22:27] <Uns0b1ll> is there better tool for NIC's troubleshooting then nictools-pci ???
[22:27] <reisio> Tunix: what version of Ubuntu?
[22:27] <Tunix> 11.10
[22:27] <napalm54> I was wondering if using Bumblebee would help any
[22:27] <BetaArc> you mean on wine?
[22:27] <Tunix> Gnome shell and tweak tool are now installed
[22:27] <reisio> Tunix: well it's there, perhaps use apt-get install instead
[22:27] <reisio> Tunix: can try those first
[22:28] <napalm54> Like launching Stellarium
[22:28] <reisio> Tunix: and if they don't suffice, gnome-panel and gnome-session-fallback
[22:28] <wunnle> hello there.
[22:28] <Tunix> reisio: sudo apt-get remove adium-theme-ubuntu apg appmenu-gtk appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-qt at-spi2-core bamfdaemon banshee banshee-extension-soundmenu banshee-extension-ubuntuonemusicstore baobab binfmt-support bluez-gstreamer branding-ubuntu brasero brasero-cdrkit brasero-common checkbox checkbox-gtk cli-common compiz compiz-core compiz-gnome compiz-plugins-default compiz-plugins-main-default compizconfig-backend-gconf deja-dup duplicity dv
[22:28] <Tunix> reisio: Ignore that sorry
[22:28] <reisio> wunnle: hi
[22:28] <reisio> Tunix: I had no intention to do otherwise :D
[22:29] <Tunix> lol thank you
[22:29] <wunnle> i'm looking for a download manager works with file sharing sites like rapidshare, megaupload etc. do you have any suggestions?
[22:29] <Tunix> im going to relog and see if that works
[22:29] <chaospsychex> http://debianhelp.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/screenshot-at-2011-10-08-153214.png <---- this is what i want to use on 11.10
[22:29] <kerv> Ive got a pretty unusual question for anyone familiar with wireless routers and command line.. Anyone fancy?
[22:29] <napalm54> glxinfo is printing out some errors for me too like: Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[22:29] <napalm54> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[22:29] <napalm54> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[22:29] <chaospsychex> kerv: ?
[22:29] <reisio> wunnle: jdownloader
[22:30] <Uns0b1ll> Hello how can i enable 802.q taging on ubuntu ?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: that's gnome shell
[22:30] <kerv> chaospsychex: Ive got a router that requires a username/password prompt on an HTML homepage before you can gain actual access to the internet
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> wunnle: fatrat does it too
[22:31] <chaospsychex> kerv: ok, what's the problem
[22:31] <BetaArc> napalm54: http://www.google.nl/search?q=Xlib%3A+extension+%22GLX%22+missing+on+display&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#sclient=psy-ab&hl=nl&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=VsN&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&source=hp&q=Xlib:+extension+%22GLX%22+missing+on+display+intel+hd&pbx=1&oq=Xlib:+extension+%22GLX%22+missing+on+display+intel+hd&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=5736l7862l0l8020l9l9l0l0l0l0l184l
[22:31] <IsmAvatar> Where do I find the sound settings to copy over from LiveCD to working install?
[22:31] <chaospsychex> kerv: donate that router to 'antique hardware' web portals suck!
[22:31] <qin> BetaArc: goo.gl
[22:31] <kerv> chaospsychex: Now the issue is I need to download X server on a computer connected to the router
[22:31] <BetaArc> qin: sorry.. to fast
[22:31] <chaospsychex> kerv: ok, and you only have command prompt access?
[22:31] <kerv> Exactly
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> kerv: set the router IP as a proxy and you may be able to set the username and password there
[22:31] <chaospsychex> kerv: sudo apt-get install links
[22:32] <kerv> links is a no go.. unless Im missing a menu on it
[22:32] <chaospsychex> kerv:  ?
[22:32] <kerv> wont display anything
[22:32] <qin> chaospsychex: links is oldish, links2 or elinks (have tabs)
[22:32] <kerv> ActionParsnip: almost like port forwarding? How do I do that?
[22:32] <reisio> IsmAvatar: check the alsa files in /etc/ for 'model' info
[22:32] <chaospsychex> kerv: then log into your routers web-shell and disable that draconian feature
[22:32] <kerv> Its not my router.
[22:33] <chaospsychex> kerv: whose is it?
[22:33] <kerv> Im... located in a middle eastern country.
[22:33] <kerv> Its a local Cafe` ISP sorta deal.
[22:33] <chaospsychex> kerv: find the router and smash it to a million pieces then rage a jihad on all your neighbors for implementing such a tool
[22:33] <kerv> Haha... if only that was politically correct and wouldnt land me in the brig :P
[22:33] <chaospsychex> kerv: call al-qaeda and get them to hand this 'situation'
[22:34] <chaospsychex> *jandle
[22:34] <chaospsychex> *handle
[22:34] <chaospsychex> lol
[22:34] <Guest42359> how to choses ubuntu very
[22:34] <Taj> k, question, anyone hav exp getting ie7+ running in ubuntu 11.10?
[22:34] <chaospsychex> Taj: omg dude
[22:34] <kerv> ^^ atleast that wasnt my question
[22:34] <Guest42359> ubuntu 11.10?
[22:34] <Taj> i know.
[22:34] <chaospsychex> first of all IE sux
[22:34] <Taj> its fucking awful
[22:34] <payman_> i wanna run an application like firefox browser!!! how can i do that in linux terminal??
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Taj: check the wine appdb, there is ies4linux too, both run badly
[22:34] <Taj> and i don't wanna do it
[22:34] <chaospsychex> !windows
[22:34] <FloodBot1> Taj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> !proxy | kerv
[22:34] <wayne> Anybody know where I can find an IRC for linux puppy I can't find the Linux Puppy ISO on the site
[22:35] <iceroot> payman_: firefox&
[22:35] <chaospsychex> get the hell outta here with that bs, no IE!
[22:35] <Taj> but my other option is to fucking install windows. and I *REALLY* dont wanna do that
[22:35] <chaospsychex> ie is for noobs
[22:35] <iceroot> payman_: & to not block the shell with firefox
[22:35] <chaospsychex> ie sux
[22:35] <iceroot> chaospsychex: you have a support question?
[22:35] <payman_> thanks iceroot
[22:35] <bobweaver> !conduct | Taj
[22:35] <Taj> i agree. but unfortuantly some corporations are micro$oft brainwashed into only allowing it
[22:35] <chaospsychex> iceroot: yes
[22:35] <kerv> ActionParsnip: You were talking about setting the connection as a proxy, can you explain? Is it a conf file?
[22:35] <iceroot> wayne: #puppy (or what there channel is)
[22:35] <Taj> and masking in firefox/opera isn't working
[22:36] <IsmAvatar> Hey, quick sound question: Where do I find the sound settings to copy over from LiveCD to working install?
[22:36] <Taj> which is my usual work-around
[22:36] <chaospsychex> iceroot: i want to use the default gnome shell with 11.10 and remove unity
[22:36] <chaospsychex> gnome 3
[22:36] <iceroot> chaospsychex: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[22:36] <chaospsychex> i did that
[22:36] <chaospsychex> that's not it
[22:36] <iceroot> chaospsychex: sudo apt-get remove unity
[22:36] <glebihan> Taj, you might find some help there : http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=4195
[22:36] <kerv> Taj: Download TOR.. Then set FireFox's proxy to "SOCKS" and "localhost:9050"
[22:36] <iceroot> !nounity | chaospsychex
[22:36] <napalm54> Ok I currently have the nVidia drivers installed on my optimus laptop.  Is it better to have nvidia or nouveau when using Bumblebee?
[22:36] <Taj> thats not gonna help kerv
[22:37] <Taj> it has to do w/ certificates
[22:37] <Taj> an bs
[22:37] <iceroot> chaospsychex: you have to choose gnome-shell in the login-manager as a session
[22:37] <bobweaver> Taj you have tried spoofing it ?
[22:37] <nhr> hi there, need help - ubuntu 11.10 fails to start on fresh installation. No gui window at all.
[22:37] <kerv> nhr: try startx
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> kerv: you can export the variables http_proxy and ftp_proxy in ~/.bashrc  then it may work
[22:38] <BetaArc> napalm54: nvidia gives more fps, nouveau is slow at the moment
[22:38] <rojj> Quit
[22:38] <nhr> I can login from other terminals - ctrl-alt f2 etc, but dont get anything graphical
[22:38] <Taj> yes in opera
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> kerv: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1575
[22:38] <napalm54> BetaArc: Ok thanks
[22:38] <iceroot> nhr: any errors when running "sudo service gdm start"?
[22:38] <bobweaver> Taj:try in chromium might work ..
[22:38] <kerv> ActionParsnip: I'll check it out, thanks.
[22:38] <iceroot> is it still called gdm in 11.10?
[22:38] <Taj> k
[22:38] <glebihan> iceroot, nope it's lightdm
[22:38] <iceroot> glebihan: ok
[22:39] <nhr> kerv:  get error connection refused - unabled to connect to x server
[22:39] <Monotoko> iceroot: why are you starting gdm with root? o.o
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: default is lightdm but you can use gdm if you wish, or slim or kdm
[22:39] <iceroot> Monotoko: because you handle upstart with root
[22:39] <azert> hi
[22:39] <nhr> Module nvidia_173 not found
[22:39] <azert> is it possible to install a package on a particular partion ? using apt ?
[22:39] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: but gdm is not the default anymore for unity/gnome3?
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> nhr: the module is nvidia not nvidia_173
[22:39] <BetaArc> napalm54: if you need more information, you could also join the bumblebee channel, don't know if they are active at the moment
[22:39] <iceroot> azert: no
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: lightdm is default but others are available
[22:40] <nhr> ActionParsnip: Just repeating the message I see on the screen
[22:40] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: ok, thx
[22:40] <azert> like apt-get install  /mnt ?
[22:40] <iceroot> azert: not possible
[22:40] <napalm54> BetaArc: Oh didn't know they had a channel, will do just that. Thanks
[22:40] <azert> why ?
[22:40] <iceroot> azert: by design of deb
[22:40] <IsmAvatar> Hey, quick sound question: Where do I find the sound settings to copy over from LiveCD to working install?
[22:40] <Grundoko> Hey, I have a bit of a predicament here. I just ran sudo rm /*/*/*, and deleted everything 3 directories down from root. I was hoping I could get to the Trash and restore the files, but since I just deleted gnome-terminal and xterm, I can't use those. And I used Ctrl+Alt+F1 to enter the fallback terminal, but it turns out /usr/bin/python, /usr/bin/sudo are gone, so I can't perform any commands. My computer is currently only useful 
[22:40] <azert> i don't  have space on local
[22:41] <iceroot> azert: mount something in there
[22:41] <azert> i got lots of space on external hard drive
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> Grundoko: you could copy the files from the liveCD but it will take a long time
[22:41] <iceroot> azert: but its not possible to change the installation dir
[22:41] <azert> i allready mount my hard drive
[22:41] <kerv> --- Links2 + listing as Proxy worked! Not sure which it was but kudos to both of you! ---
[22:41] <azert> the question is why we can't write on external hard drive after mounting it ?
[22:41] <Monotoko> Grundoko: I think you'll have to just give it up as a bad mistake and reinstall
[22:42] <tle_can> anyone else have any problems installing on Dell Vostro 3350? I get a cannot find initramfs error in the installer
[22:42] <iceroot> Grundoko: its no problem to use that command, its easy to restore
[22:42] <iceroot> Grundoko: just use your BACKUP!
[22:42] <Liam> Hey all
[22:42] <Liam> how can I identify what touchpad my system has?'
[22:42] <iceroot> Grundoko: but because you dont have a backup, you have to reinstall
[22:42] <Liam> it's not being automatically identified
[22:42] <Grundoko> iceroot: Implying I have enough sense to backup :p
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> Grundoko: what if your drive motor fails, where is your data?
[22:43] <azert> my question is
[22:43] <iceroot> Grundoko: now you know why it is good to have a backup and why it is good to not use rm with sudo
[22:43] <iceroot> Grundoko: normally there is no reason to use rm with sudo
[22:43] <azert> after mounting can we transfer every system file and folder to the external hard drive ?
[22:44] <azert> if yes what option i have to check for ?
[22:44] <iceroot> azert: how big is the internal drive?
[22:44] <the3nigm4> iceroot: sometimes there is
[22:44] <azert> 2T
[22:44] <iceroot> the3nigm4: normally not
[22:44] <azert> 2 tera bit
[22:44] <histo> Grundoko: pull the plug imediately. boot a live cd and follow the directions from ubottu
[22:44] <iceroot> azert: you have 2tb drive internal and dont have space for your ubuntu-installation?
[22:44] <histo> !undelete | Grundoko
[22:45] <histo> Grundoko: it's important that you pull the plug and not shutdown normally
[22:45] <azert> no i just only got 8GB internal hard drive
[22:45] <Grundoko> ubottu: It's ext4, does that make a difference?
[22:45] <azert> 2TB for external hard drive
[22:45] <histo> Grundoko: no you can still undelete files
[22:45] <iceroot> Grundoko: you cant recover the data
[22:45] <azert> that's why my questiion
[22:45] <root> hello
[22:45] <histo> iceroot: that's not true
[22:45] <iceroot> Grundoko: doesnt matter what ubottu said, files are gone
[22:45] <Daekdroom> Is there any way to force a resolution if my monitor is not detected by ubuntu, but it displays?
[22:45] <Liam> how can I identify the brand / model of my touchpad?
[22:45] <chaospsychex> i don't have 'gnome shell' as a option in the login manager
[22:45] <Guest25995> german here?
[22:45] <azert> what option i have to check for ?
[22:45] <Daekdroom> !de | Guest25995
[22:45] <iceroot> !de | Guest25995
[22:45] <chaospsychex> only gnome and gnome classic and gnome isn't the gnome shell
[22:46] <Grundoko> iceroot: So there's no way it's in the trash? I can probably use a thumbdrive, and drop the bin files I need back in, so I can get access to Trash
[22:46] <histo> !notunity | chaospsychex
[22:46] <the3nigm4> is there a key to reply to someone specifically? or do you just type their name?
[22:46] <iceroot> Grundoko: there is no trash on the shell
[22:46] <IsmAvatar> Grundoko: no, rm does not put files in the trash
[22:46] <chaospsychex> Grundoko: install testdisk
[22:46] <histo> Grundoko: Boot a live cd and backup your files from /home
[22:46] <chaospsychex> Grundoko: will let u recover deleted files
[22:46] <azert> i recommend to not to use ext4
[22:46] <Guest25995> how one can help me?
[22:46] <azert> taking lots of space
[22:46] <iceroot> azert: not true
[22:46] <histo> Grundoko: either way you have to boot a live cd
[22:46] <histo> !ask | Guest25995
[22:46] <Liam>  /nick rufsketch1
[22:46] <azert> yes its true
[22:47] <IsmAvatar> Hey, quick sound question: Where do I find the sound settings to copy over from LiveCD to working install?
[22:47] <chaospsychex> i installed gnome-shell and the weak tool, didnt work
[22:47] <iceroot> azert: its not true, please dont tell lies here
[22:47] <azert> comparing other filesystem
[22:47] <iceroot> azert: like?
[22:47] <histo> Grundoko: the longer you use the system the longer you are overwritting files
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> azert: ext4 is great, there are great speed improvements over ext3
[22:47] <azert> listen
[22:47] <azert> yes of course
[22:47] <Grundoko> I'll just reinstall then. Disappointing, but I have all my important data elsewhere :p
[22:47] <HackerII> what lib do i need for zip files ?
[22:47] <the3nigm4> does anybody actually like unity?
[22:47] <azert> but the problem is it taking more space on disk comparing ext3
[22:47] <rypervenche> the3nigm4: Not I.
[22:47] <histo> Grundoko: I would just recover the files but whatever do what you want.
[22:47] <iceroot> azert: no
[22:47] <Guest25995> i have installed loic on linux
[22:48] <bekks> HackerII: For doing what exactly with zip files?
[22:48] <rufsketch1> how can identify the make/model of my touchpad?
[22:48] <Grundoko> the3nigm4: I don't personally, however I know people who do.
[22:48] <HackerII> opening them
[22:48] <azert> i just check on router
[22:48] <iceroot> azert: and now stop that lie please
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> azert: do you mean per file?
[22:48] <rufsketch1> how can I*
[22:48] <Guest25995> and now dont start this programm
[22:48] <bekks> HackerII: "unzip".
[22:48] <azert> that's why i m telling, why i have to lie
[22:48] <HackerII> k..thnx
[22:48] <the3nigm4> ive never met anybody that does, its always either KDE or XFCE
[22:48] <azert> why do you feel that i lie
[22:48] <iceroot> Guest25995: you are using puppy-linux?
[22:48] <the3nigm4> or a wm
[22:48] <Guest25995> bt5
[22:48] <histo> azert: more than likely had to do with your block size when you checked that comparison.
[22:48] <iceroot> Guest25995: not supported here
[22:48] <Guest25995> i use BT5
[22:48] <eein> ubuntu 11 installer on eeepc = fail
[22:48] <iceroot> !backtrack | Guest25995
[22:48] <histo> Guest25995: what is the problem?
[22:49] <azert> what the gain for me ?
[22:49] <the3nigm4> Guest25995: why?
[22:49] <azert> or are you selling your ext4 ?
[22:49] <azert> i m just a simple user
[22:49] <histo> the3nigm4: netbook people might like unity
[22:49] <iceroot> azert: there is no reason to not use ext4
[22:49] <histo> azert: use what you want.
[22:49] <azert> don't tell that i lie w/o
[22:49] <stevecam> does anyone else think ubuntu 11.10 is buggy?
[22:49] <histo> !best | azert
[22:49] <azert> knowing what i try explaing
[22:50] <chaospsychex> do any of those derivitaes use the gnome 3 shell by default?
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> Guest25995: you are also running your IRC client as root which is a REALLY bad idea
[22:50] <iceroot> azert: saying "dont use ext4 because its taking much more space" is a lie
[22:50] <the3nigm4> histo: i only know one guy that has a netbook and uses unity, and thats because hes to ignorant to know how to remove it
[22:50] <IsmAvatar> Hey, quick sound question: Where do I find the sound settings to copy over from LiveCD to working install?
[22:50] <histo> ActionParsnip: not on a live cd it's not
[22:50] <azert> i just made a test
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> azert: any journalized file system will waste space for the journal. The jounal is no bigger size for size over ext3
[22:50] <chaospsychex> is unity going to be used on 12.04 ?
[22:50] <histo> ActionParsnip: he's booted bt5 from a live cd and joined irc
[22:50] <iceroot> chaospsychex: yes
[22:50] <histo> chaospsychex: yes
[22:50] <chaospsychex> omg
[22:51] <the3nigm4> chaospsychex: probably, but i hope not
[22:51] <histo> chaospsychex: just use fall back or install gnome-shell
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> histo: sure, the root account could be infiltrated and the local partitions accessed ;)
[22:51] <azert> hey do a test right now
[22:51] <azert> you will see the difference
[22:51] <iceroot> chaospsychex: feel free to use gnome3, kde, xfce4, lxde
[22:51] <chaospsychex> gnome classic is better than unity
[22:51] <Daekdroom> It seems Ubuntu doesn't recognize my monitor's EDID, so I can't change its resolution through xrandr and passing video=1920x1080 to the boot only changes the terminal resolution. Any tips?
[22:51] <pycoderf> hey all how would i route traffic on ubuntu server from one nic to the other
[22:51] <iceroot> !who | azert
[22:51] <Grundoko> I'm actually kind of glad I screwed my system. Been looking for an excuse to try out Xubuntu 11.10
[22:51] <azert> what is the gain for me liying here  iceroot
[22:51] <glebihan> chaospsychex, it will be the default but you can use whatever desktop environment you want
[22:51] <logo> hello guys
[22:51] <bekks> pycoderf: By setting up a router.
[22:51] <histo> Daekdroom: what video card?
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> azert: can you give a link to backup your claim?
[22:52] <iceroot> azert: you dont know the technical details, so your statement is wrong
[22:52] <histo> !ot | azert iceroot
[22:52] <Daekdroom> histo, ATI HD5430
[22:52] <pycoderf> bekks: cant a route be setup since its a server between the two or use the gateway of one interface for the second nic
[22:52] <iceroot> histo: no need for that
[22:52] <azert> okay i m not an expert
[22:52] <histo> Daekdroom: did you install ati drivers?
[22:52] <azert> i m agree
[22:52] <logo> any help me?
[22:52] <bekks> pycoderf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[22:52] <chaospsychex> where is 'synaptic' in 11.10 ?
[22:52] <azert> but can do a demo
[22:52] <iceroot> azert: so the statement about ext4 is wrong
[22:52] <histo> iceroot: yes there is you guys arguing over ext4 vs. ext3 is offtopic
[22:52] <Daekdroom> histo, It's not about the drivers. The issue is not limited to linux, however I can work around it on Windows.
[22:53] <azert> very simple format your  pen drive from fat32 to ext4 8GB
[22:53] <iceroot> histo: ext4 is of course not offtopic here
[22:53] <histo> Daekdroom: I would gander that it maybe driver related in linux.
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: its not default installed, it is in the repos though
[22:53] <azert> you can see the difference
[22:53] <iceroot> azert: and should we know use fat32 to install ubuntu on it?
[22:53] <logo> how i start loic on bt5?
[22:53] <Daekdroom> histo, it is not. Drivers are alright. It's a cable/monitor problem, but I can't test them, so I prefer setting my resolution manually for the meantime.
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> azert: yes, that's the journal. Which you will get with Ext3 as well
[22:53] <histo> !backtrack > logo
[22:53] <iceroot> azert: and what about files bigger then 4gb on fat32? (or was it 2gb?)
[22:53] <Dark_Apostrophe> How would I set up 4 different Firefox profiles to all have their own separate icon in the dock?
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> azert: fat32 doesn't have a journal but is slower and not nearly as robust as ext4
[22:53] <geomaster> logo: you may want to consider something less lame than loic
[22:54] <gundy> iceroot, 4G
[22:54] <azert> but for ext4 it taking 2GB
[22:54] <Squiffy> lost_the_game <3
[22:54] <azert> that's too much
[22:54] <lost_the_game> Squiffy: i <3 u moar
[22:54] <the3nigm4> so how difficult is it to set up your own irc channel? would it be worth the time if there were never going to be more than 10 people?
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> azert: then make the journal smaller... not hard
[22:54] <azert> comparing others
[22:54] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: create 4 launchers which will call firefox -P profile
[22:54] <Squiffy> kick niles|iPod! HE SPAMS
[22:54] <lordjj> the executables Code::blocks is producing are denying permission to be run. I have to manually do chmod +x to be able to run them in a terminal. The result is that I can't easily debug programs in code::blocks. Why is this happening?
[22:54] <histo> Daekdroom: the opensource drivers may not support the resolution you are trying.
[22:54] <Daekdroom> histo, they do.
[22:54] <iceroot> azert: the journal is of course not 2gb when your drive is 8gb
[22:55] <azert> my question is simply why by default acting like that ?  taking more space ?
[22:55] <Dark_Apostrophe> iceroot: How do I create a launcher? (Sorry, while I have used Linux for ages, I'm new to Unity)
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> azert: format it ext2 and the space will be usable as Ext2 doesn't have a journal. But the device storage will fragment
[22:55] <stevecam> IIRC, firefox will be removing the profile function and enabling it through a plugin
[22:55] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: sorry i am not using unity
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> azert: its the journal
[22:55] <Dark_Apostrophe> Oh, then what were you referring to?
[22:55] <iceroot> azert: you can disable journal on ext3/4
[22:55] <pycoderf> why dont i have a /etc/default/dhcp3-server file when i freshly installed dhcp3-server
[22:55] <iceroot> azert: but there is a good reason for the journal
[22:55] <chaospsychex> Dark_Apostrophe: remove unity is first thing
[22:55] <glebihan> the3nigm4, it takes no more than a few minutes, but you should ask on #freenode about that
[22:55] <Daekdroom> histo, it's 1920x1080@60hz. It used to work alright until this EDID issue, and reinstalling didn't fix it, so I have to set the resolution manually and xrandr doesn't let me.
[22:55] <logo> any can help me ?
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> azert: the journal is what stops linux file systems fragmenting and slowing
[22:56] <azert> the maximum capacity for ext2 AFAIK is 4GB
[22:56] <iceroot> pycoderf: is "dpkg -L dhcp3-server" showing that there must a file like that
[22:56] <Dark_Apostrophe> chaospsychex: Nah.. it's either that or KDE (GNOME is out of the question), and I'm fine with either.
[22:56] <iceroot> azert: stop it please
[22:56] <Squiffy> My friend said he got arrested using Ubuntu?
[22:56] <iceroot> azert: you dont know anything about what you are talking
[22:56] <stevecam> how do i go about removing unity, it freezes up a lot
[22:56] <Squiffy> Can someone tell me why?
[22:56] <pycoderf> iceroot: no
[22:56] <chaospsychex> Dark_Apostrophe: your crazy if you choose KDE and unity over gnome, thats crazy
[22:56] <pycoderf> but the docs say it should exist
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> azend: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext2  try 32Tb
[22:56] <chaospsychex> kde sux
[22:56] <lost_the_game> Squiffy, I heard ubuntu is an illegal OS
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> azend: basically you have no idea what you are taling about
[22:57] <Squiffy> lost_the_game: Thats what i'm thinking
[22:57] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: as i said earlier
[22:57] <chaospsychex> kde is the worst desktop of all of them
[22:57] <lost_the_game> Squiffy, I saw this article a few years ago
[22:57] <Dynamit> Ubuntu illegal OS where?
[22:57] <iceroot> chaospsychex: stop flaming please
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: there are lots of other DEs. Try LXDE, XFCE and so on
[22:57] <Daekdroom> lost_the_game, it is very legal.
[22:57] <the3nigm4> xfce is the best
[22:57] <logo> any can help me whit LOIC on backtrack5 ?
[22:57] <Dynamit> Ubuntu illegal OS where?
[22:57]  * ActionParsnip loves LXDE
[22:57] <PCPDCG> Ubuntu's legal
[22:57] <lost_the_game> talking about how linux was an illegal operating system...
[22:57] <Squiffy> I hear sony wants to boycott ubuntu cause of PS3 Exploits
[22:57] <iceroot> !backtrack | logo
[22:57] <Dark_Apostrophe> Does anyone know how would I set up 4 different Firefox profiles to all have their own separate icon in the dock (Unity)?
[22:57] <Dynamit> LOL Linux illegal never
[22:57] <iceroot> !ot | Squiffy
[22:57] <zenloop> hi
[22:58] <zenloop> Trying to start autofs and I get the following
[22:58] <zenloop> :
[22:58] <lost_the_game> created by this soviet hacker called linus turvuld. I could be wrong tho
[22:58] <chaospsychex> microsoft is trying to make it illegal via UEFI
[22:58] <logo> pls any help me
[22:58] <Dynamit> LOL Linux illegal never
[22:58] <iceroot> logo: i already helped you
[22:58] <iceroot> logo: its not supported here
[22:58] <mahir256> the only thing illegal about linux is the millions of binary blobs present in the source, blatant violations of the gpl
[22:58] <stevecam> Dynamit, according to SCO?
[22:58] <iceroot> logo: read the message from ubottu
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: not illegal, just that the firmware will not allow it due to 'unsecure OS'
[22:59] <chaospsychex> they will use the law to make it illegal
[22:59] <squidly> I've got a server that is having issues with it's networking issues. I have serveral ipv6 and ipv4 aliases on a bonding device but the aliase doe not activate. I have step them up manually but not though the /etc/network/interfaces
[22:59] <chaospsychex> just like sony does
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: Linux peeps are talking with folks to say why it should be ok to run and such (doc on omgubuntu)
[22:59] <lost_the_game> hmm
[22:59] <logo> any can learn me
[22:59] <chaospsychex> a windows 8 comp will be the same as a sony playsation 3, security wise
[22:59] <iceroot> logo: again, your system is not supported here
[22:59] <mahir256> uefi will be a threat UNLESS all software is free software, or people can modify the SoC with legal tools
[22:59] <iceroot> !ot | chaospsychex
[22:59] <Uns0b1ll> where loader.conf ?
[22:59] <the3nigm4> windows 8 is HORRIBLE
[23:00] <eein> chaospsychex: whew i was getting nervous it would be locked down
[23:00] <lost_the_game> how can I open a .torrent file? a friend of mine just sent me windows, but it's a torrent... how can I burn that to a CD? I want to install window.
[23:00] <lost_the_game> *windows
[23:00] <stevecam> i must say that windows is much more secure then it used to be
[23:00] <geomaster> anyone did an upgrade to 11.10? (not reinstall but dist-upgrade)
[23:00] <iceroot> lost_the_game: ask microsoft where to get a legal copy of that
[23:00] <squidly> lost_the_game: that is illegale.. if you have a copy of windows legally then you should have a disk for it
[23:00] <Uns0b1ll> wheres loader.conf on buntu ?
[23:00] <bekks> lost_the_game: You cannot burn a torrent file. You have to download the thing(s) that file refers to first, using a torrent client.
[23:00] <mahir256> lost_the_game: 1...dammit! 2...you suck! 3...go to http://qbittorrent.sf.net/
[23:01] <lordjj> Anyone know's about this: the executables Code::blocks is producing are denying permission to be run. I have to manually do chmod +x to be able to run them in a terminal. The result is that I can't easily debug programs in code::blocks. How can I fix this?
[23:01] <Loptr> the3nigm4, windows 8? Is there such a thing ? :D
[23:01] <bekks> Loptr: There is.
[23:01] <logo> iceroot: what you mean?
[23:01] <squidly> Loptr: yes there is.. it's in development
[23:01] <chaospsychex> an endangered species
[23:01] <FloodBot1> Squiffy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:01] <chaospsychex> a cellphone os, lolol
[23:01] <iceroot> logo: you are using backtrack but this channel is for ubuntu only
[23:01] <Loptr> win 7 isnt "stable" yet and they are making 8. typical :D
[23:02] <zenloop> no valid automount entries defined.
[23:02] <bekks> Loptr: W7 is stable for years now. Lets get back to Ubuntu now. :)
[23:02] <lordjj> "cellphone os" lol
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> lost_the_game: install a client like bitlord or utorrent
[23:02] <geomaster> lordjj: are there any logs suggesting that it failed to set the executable bit?
[23:02] <Squiffy> Sorry 'bout that
[23:02] <geomaster> and try also editing preferences
[23:03] <lordjj> geomaster , hm where should I look for logs
[23:03] <Daekdroom> Where can I add commands I want to run during the boots?
[23:03] <Squiffy> k
[23:03] <Squiffy> k
[23:03] <the3nigm4> so, i dont understand whatsoever how to configure awesomewm
[23:03] <Squiffy> k
[23:03] <iceroot> !boot | Daekdroom
[23:03] <Squiffy> k
[23:03] <Squiffy> !boot | Squiffy
[23:03] <Squiffy> !boot | Squiffy
[23:03] <iceroot> Squiffy: stop it
[23:03] <geomaster> lordjj: after compiling, does the linker complain?
[23:03] <Daekdroom> iceroot, I think I'm looking for /etc/rc.local . Thank you.
[23:03] <the3nigm4> anywhere good to learn? /g/ does nothing but argue
[23:03] <geomaster> try calling gcc/g++ manually and see what happens
[23:04] <Uns0b1ll> hello !!! how can i boot drivers in my loader.conf ?
[23:05] <bekks> Uns0b1ll: The loader.conf isnt for booting drivers.
[23:05] <logo> what chat is for linux or bt ?
[23:05] <stevecam> how do i get back to my normal desktop, unity keeps on freezing
[23:05] <bekks> logo: #linux ?
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> !bt | logo
[23:05] <bekks> stevecam: Ubuntu 11.10?
[23:05] <chaospsychex> how do i completely remove gnome? sudo apt-get remove <???>
[23:05] <stevecam> bekks, yes
[23:05] <glebihan> logo, #backtrack-linux
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> logo: #backtrack-linux
[23:05] <IsmAvatar> chaospsychex: --purge gnome ?
[23:05] <bekks> stevecam: Unity is the normal desktop.
[23:06] <bobweaver> logo, BT = #backtrack-linux
[23:06] <geomaster> chaospsychex: gnome-shell?
[23:06] <Uns0b1ll> bekks, i need to enable 802.1q tagging and vlan options to my Adaptec nic card
[23:06] <IsmAvatar> Hey, quick sound question: Where do I find the sound settings to copy over from LiveCD to working install?
[23:06] <chaospsychex> sudo apt-get --purge gnome doesn't work
[23:06] <nhr> I see failed to load nvidia kernel module after fresh install
[23:06] <bobweaver> logo,#off-sec  is classroom I think ?
[23:06] <augustl> how do I change the workspace layout in 11.10? I want 4 horizontally aligned ones.
[23:06] <nhr> Live CD worked fine
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: ~/.pulse is the user settings#
[23:07] <chaospsychex> what ist he package name of the gnome desktop?
[23:07] <iceroot> !purelxde | chaospsychex (just use the remove-part)
[23:07] <Uns0b1ll> or at least to check which driver i have in my ubuntu for this device
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: you may have a different module or options on the module in the CD if it's a different release
[23:07] <geomaster> chaospsychex: i bet it's gnome-shell
[23:07] <iceroot> chaospsychex: ubuntu-desktop but its a metapackage so use the text from ubottu i posted you
[23:07] <chaospsychex> i want to remove ALL desktops
[23:07] <iceroot> chaospsychex: read the link from ubottu
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: then remove xorg and the rest will come tumbling down, it will also remove graphical apps
[23:08] <IsmAvatar> ActionParsnip: ~/.pulse is empty on the LiveCD. Both LiveCD and Install are 11.10, but the install was an upgrade. At any rate, I want to overwrite, because the install's sound is all staticky, and LiveCD is fine.
[23:08] <stevecam> bekks, what am i supposed to do about all the problems that come along with it, my keyboard wont always type properly, my tray is annoying me when it wont let me click on things, and the unity sidebar is hiding behind other windows when something is fullscreen
[23:08] <riveram> hey what does it mean when i try to run diablo in wine, and the screen just goes black. i can hear the sound and music but there's nothing on the screen. then when it gets to a menu screen, like after the opening videos, it shrinks to a smaller black swuare and i can see some of my wallpaper? help
[23:08] <nhr> Anyone please - my desktop is completely not usable after fresh install. Window manager does not start at all
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: ~/.pulse-cookie maybe
[23:08] <chaospsychex> what's the pkg name of unity?
[23:09] <iceroot> chaospsychex: unity
[23:09] <nhr> Last message I see on the screen is checking battery state
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> riveram: have you checked the appdb?
[23:09] <lordjj> geomaster, if I use "g++ file.cpp -o file", it runs finr, and has normal permissions. When I build through codeblocks it dsnt run unless I chmod +x it first. Here's the build log in codeblocks http://paste.ubuntu.com/725834/
[23:09] <riveram> appdb?
[23:09] <stevecam> bekks, are you using unity?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | riveram
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> riveram: may need some tweaks to run
[23:09] <kerv> ActionParsnip: Still here? Cause I'm not done yet :P hahaha
[23:09] <geomaster> riveram: probably some graphics glitch
[23:10] <bekks> stevecam: No.
[23:10] <riveram> is it just pretty much a diablo update for wine?
[23:10] <IsmAvatar> ActionParsnip: I'm sorry, .pulse was a directory and I was trying to vi it, lol. It's not empty after all. Got about 6 files in it. I just copy them over?
[23:10] <geomaster> lordjj: i see your problem. you compile onto a mounted ntfs partition, maybe that's why it refuses to set the exec bit?
[23:10] <stevecam> bekks, what do you use?
[23:10] <bekks> stevecam: KDE.
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: possibly
[23:11] <lordjj> geomaster , well, I used to do this without problems on a previous install
[23:11] <stevecam> bekks, i tried installing KDE, but it was impossible to read when everything was tiny
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> kerv: sup?
[23:11] <bekks> stevecam: You can change the font size in the settings...
[23:11] <kerv> my username/password prompt.. cant get past it.. should I be enabling cookies or something somehow?
[23:11] <geomaster> lordjj: tried tweaking preferences in code::blocks?
[23:11] <the3nigm4> stevecam: nothing looks good default, it all takes customuzing
[23:12] <stevecam> i tried that, but some fonts didn't change
[23:12] <kerv> Generally I would get an image displayed of "Bad Auth" or "Only one user sesh at a time"
[23:12] <kerv> No luck, just get returned to empty prompts every time.
[23:12] <stevecam> it is impossible to read anything, i can't work my way around the system because the writing is too small
[23:12] <lordjj> geomaster , I don't remember anything particular that I changed last time this used to work. I don't see anything particular now either
[23:13] <bekks> stevecam: Then you didnt change all fonts. :)
[23:13] <the3nigm4> as i said before, xfce is the best de out there, with lxde as a close second ( imo)
[23:13] <stevecam> bekks, how do i change all the fonts?
[23:13] <geomaster> lordjj: hmm, i don't know what can that be. what permissions does the file have when compiled (do a `stat your-executable-file`)
[23:13] <bekks> stevecam: BY going through the settings and resize everything you want to resize.
[23:14] <stevecam> bekks, there is a problem there, my eyes can not read something that is 5 pixels tall
[23:14] <Dark_Apostrophe> When I try to access Facebook via HTTPS on this Ubuntu machine on Firefox, I get an invalid certificate from VeriSign. I know Facebook use DigiCert. When I check it on Firefox on my Win7 computer, it shows DigiCert. Why does it show a different certificate on Ubuntu?
[23:15] <lordjj> geomaster http://paste.ubuntu.com/725839/
[23:15] <stevecam> Dark_Apostrophe, is your date and time correct?
[23:15] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: any entrys in " /etc/hosts" with facebook?
[23:15] <Dark_Apostrophe> Yes, but that doesn't explain the different CA
[23:15] <Haaggis> can i post in here about C .... the other channel wont let me connect for some reason
[23:15] <Dark_Apostrophe> iceroot: I'll check
[23:15] <Dark_Apostrophe> iceroot: nope
[23:16] <stevecam> Haaggis, are you registered?
[23:16] <Haaggis> i doubt it...
[23:16] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: nslookup facebook.com  is showing your nameserver?
[23:16] <Haaggis> u got a site to register to ?
[23:16] <geomaster> lordjj, well there is something horribly wrong with the permissions but i have no idea why would code::blocks do that... sorry.
[23:16] <geomaster> you could try removing and purging
[23:16] <geomaster> and then reinstalling
[23:16] <glebihan> !register | Haaggis
[23:16] <stevecam> some channels block unregistered users, i can't recall which ones
[23:16] <the3nigm4> where can i go to understand how to use awesomewm's method of coniguring its rc.lua?
[23:17] <Dark_Apostrophe> iceroot: mind if we talk in PM, there's a lot of people talking here at once
[23:17] <stevecam> bekks, did you get the same incredibly small writing i am talking about?
[23:17] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: because of that we put names infront of the text .)
[23:17] <bekks> Dark_Apostrophe: The intermediate certificate may be invalid.
[23:17] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: nslookup www.facebook.com
[23:17] <sqqqrly> #wiki
[23:18] <Dark_Apostrophe> hold on, pastebin
[23:18] <qcode> dig www.facebook.com
[23:18] <IsmAvatar> ActionParsnip: first thing I notice is that the filenames differ. They all start with some hex - the same for all files on the LiveCD, and the same for all files on the install, but different between the two. LiveCD starts with f4a1, install starts with 0982
[23:18] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: just look if the first address is your nameserver you normally use
[23:18] <Dark_Apostrophe> http://pastebin.ca/2092835
[23:18] <IsmAvatar> I guess I could back them up, copy over the liveCD counterparts, and see if it fixes it
[23:19] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: invalid
[23:19] <Dark_Apostrophe> iceroot: I usually don't tinker with nameservers on my own, leave that up to the OS (if there were reasons to do so, such as subverting DNS censorship attempts, I might, but there aren't to my knowledge)
[23:19] <Dark_Apostrophe> iceroot: Alright... the nameserver's entry is outdated?
[23:20] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: the pastebin url is invalid
[23:20] <the3nigm4> how can you configure hotkeys in xfce? such as if i want fn up to make my volume go up, what do i do? is there a program to do this? or just edit config files?
[23:20] <Dark_Apostrophe> Odd... works for me
[23:20] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: my facebook cert is from digicert inc and shown as valid
[23:20] <bekks> iceroot: It works for me too.
[23:20] <Dark_Apostrophe> Just reloaded the url, still works
[23:20] <Almindor> anyone else with HP mini has disconnecting wifi connection?
[23:20] <Almindor> I get connected ok but it always falls out after 1-2minutes
[23:20] <Almindor> no indication, just apps don't get data
[23:21] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: bekks pastebin.ca is not working here
[23:21] <Almindor> if I reconnect it works again for 1-2m
[23:21] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: bekks no server found
[23:21] <Dark_Apostrophe> oh, got a pastebin that you know works?
[23:21] <Almindor> worked in 11.04
[23:21] <arooni-mobile__> hi folks;  running 11.10 on lenovo t420.  suspend will bring the computer back; but all programs will have closed!!! how can i fix?
[23:21] <Almindor> is this a known issue?
[23:21] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: doesnt matter i dont need the paste
[23:21] <Dark_Apostrophe> Alright
[23:21] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: you just have to look if it is the default dns you are using
[23:21] <Dark_Apostrophe> So, what do you suggest? I switch to OpenDNS or something like that?
[23:22] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: can you try a different browser?
[23:22] <Dark_Apostrophe> Have no others installed that the moment
[23:22] <Dark_Apostrophe> at*
[23:23] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: and you are using https://facebook.com directly?
[23:23] <Dark_Apostrophe> yes
[23:24] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: https://69.171.228.13/  is this offering a cert from digicert inc.?
[23:24] <Dark_Apostrophe> yes
[23:24] <Dark_Apostrophe> Serial no. ending in DB:E6
[23:25] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: then it seems that "https://facebook.com" is not using the real facebook-servers, maybe a wrong/old dns-entry
[23:25] <Dark_Apostrophe> Hum... so I should try switching DNS servers, then
[23:25] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: is nslookup www.facebook.com 69.171.228.13 as ip?
[23:26] <Dark_Apostrophe> Address: 69.171.229.16
[23:26] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: my dns is offering me a different ip with the correct cert
[23:27] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: so i guess your dns is directing you to a wrong/faked facebook-server
[23:27] <Dark_Apostrophe> Alright... Does Ubuntu have its own nameserver configuration system of some kind?
[23:27] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: you are using dhcp?
[23:27] <Dark_Apostrophe> Yep
[23:28] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: then its just reading the dns from your router/isp
[23:28] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[23:28] <Dark_Apostrophe> Hmm.. odd that the Win7 desktop, which does the same, has no such problem :/
[23:28] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: thats the dns ubuntu is using
[23:28] <MeXTuX> I have a GeForce 8400 GS and Ubuntu 11.04 installed. I just installed 2.6.38-12 and the pc hangs during splash screen. If I choose 2.6.38-11 the Pc boots normally. I installed the nvidia propietary driver (NVIDIA-Linux-x86-285.05.09.run). Any idea??
[23:28] <Dark_Apostrophe> nameserver 192.168.0.1 <-- Yep, router.
[23:29] <escott> MeXTuX, did you manually install it or was it installed by jockey
[23:29] <Zoohouse> Hello guys
[23:29] <Loptr> Dark_Apostrophe, looks like someome dns spoofed you
[23:29] <MeXTuX> The driver or the kernel???
[23:29] <Zoohouse> What would happen if I were to completely remove python 2.7?
[23:29] <escott> MeXTuX, the driver
[23:29] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: and "nslookup www.facebook.com" is showing 192.168.0.1 as dns?
[23:30] <escott> MeXTuX, presumably you arent building your own kernels and that is coming from apt
[23:30] <Dark_Apostrophe> yes
[23:30] <iceroot> Zoohouse: if there is no other python installed  i guess a broken system
[23:30] <Zoohouse> What would happen if I were to completely remove python 2.7 from Ubuntu 11.10? Would Unity stop working on reboot?
[23:30] <histo> MeXTuX: reinstall the nvidia driver on .12
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> MeXTuX: uninstall the driver then reboot to use the open driver
[23:30] <Zoohouse> ekk
[23:30] <Loptr> Dark_Apostrophe, is the problem only with facebook?
[23:30] <Hamder> Anyone got the time to help out with  installing Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 drivers?
[23:30] <Zoohouse> iceroot, any easy way to fix it?
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> MeXTuX: you can get the 285 driver using the xorg edgers updates ppa
[23:30] <iceroot> Zoohouse: yes, not removing python
[23:30] <Dark_Apostrophe> Loptr: Haven't tried any others
[23:31] <Zoohouse> What if I already did?
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> MeXTuX: not the xorg edgers ppa itself, they have a slightly stabler branch
[23:31] <iceroot> Zoohouse: reinstall python
[23:31] <iceroot> Zoohouse: and dont reboot
[23:31] <MeXTuX> So everytime a install a new kernel I will need to reinstall the driver??
[23:31] <iceroot> Zoohouse: before it is fixed
[23:31] <arooni-mobile__> hi folks;  running 11.10 on lenovo t420.  suspend will bring the computer back; but all programs will have closed!!! how can i fix?
[23:31] <Dark_Apostrophe> Loptr: Just tried a different site on both computers, this time they got the same cert
[23:32] <Loptr> Dark_Apostrophe, if it's only facebook you can add the ip for facebook manually but it doesnt fix the problem
[23:32] <Zoohouse> iceroot, I a lot of sys files seemed to be removed. Those wouldn't be reinstalled if I just reinstalled Python2.7, would it?
[23:32] <Hamder> Help Pls. I need to run WoW on ubuntu but can't due to generic weak drivers.
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> MeXTuX: no, if you use the packages instead of the driver from the nvidia site it will do it for you
[23:32] <iceroot> Zoohouse: how you removed python?
[23:33] <iceroot> Zoohouse: with apt-get?
[23:33] <Zoohouse> Synaptic iceroot
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> MeXTuX: you will need to do it each time with the manual install as you have done
[23:33] <iceroot> Zoohouse: ok then just reinstalling python is enough
[23:33] <Zoohouse> ok
[23:33] <martian> My /boot is at 90%. Is there any potential harm in simply destroying old vmlinuz, vmcoreinfo, System.map, initrd.img, config, and abi's?
[23:33] <iceroot> Zoohouse: it will pull everything back needed
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> MeXTuX: the packages add dkms data which will generate the module each time, you have bypassed this
[23:33] <iceroot> martian: remove old kernels with apt-get
[23:33] <Dark_Apostrophe> I'll be back soon, gonna try something - thanks for your help so far, folks :)
[23:34] <martian> iceroot: oh, and that will purge their /boot counterparts?
[23:34] <iceroot> martian: yes
[23:34] <martian> iceroot: nifty! thanks
[23:34] <iceroot> martian: just dont remove the metapackage only old kernels (packages with versions)
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> MeXTuX: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current    and you'll be fine and have no issues. Why did you use the manual method in the first place??
[23:36] <arooni-mobile__> hi folks;  running 11.10 on lenovo t420.  suspend will bring the computer back; but all programs will have closed!!! how can i fix?
[23:36] <Hamder> OK... Is there a World of Warcraft (ubuntu) chan? Anyone?
[23:38] <martian> iceroot: hmm, dpkg shows that I only have 2.6.32-34, 33, and 32 installed, but my /boot has files going back to 21
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> Hamder: #winehq more than likely
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> martian: try:  sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[23:38] <Hamder> thanks ActionParsnip
[23:38] <arooni-mobile__> can someone help me with my suspend issue?
[23:39] <martian> iceroot: yep, nothing to remove
[23:39] <iceroot> martian: hm
[23:39] <robinson> evening...
[23:39] <iceroot> martian: yes --purge should remove the rest
[23:39] <robinson> How can I reset the default window sizes in 11.10? If I try to save something in any program, the window that spawns for me to select where to save it is WAY too big...
[23:40] <martian> iceroot: should is the keyword :)
[23:40] <iceroot> martian: as always :)
[23:40] <martian> iceroot: should I just remove them?
[23:40] <iceroot> martian: yes, but not the one you are using at the moment
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> martian: the command I gave will do it for you
[23:41] <martian> ActionParsnip: that is not removing them
[23:41] <theMAVERICK> is there a way to freeze your version of ubuntu so no upgrade or kernel updates take place?
[23:41] <theMAVERICK> because whenever I run Maverick Meerkat Ubuntu 10.10
[23:41] <bekks> theMAVERICK: Dont run apt-get update then...
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> martian: if you run:  dpkg -l | grep linux-image-     can you PASTEBIN the output please
[23:41] <theMAVERICK> everything is working PERFECTLY off the fresh install, but I have had 2 computer crashes
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> !pin | theMAVERICK
[23:42] <theMAVERICK> I will check that out thanks
[23:42] <theMAVERICK> Natty and Oneiric have made me a sad panda
[23:42] <iceroot> theMAVERICK: remember, normally updates are for security-issues
[23:42] <theMAVERICK> iceroot: what do you mean?
[23:42] <robinson> In 11.10, what controls windows sizes? Unity, Metacity, Gnome3, or something else?
[23:43] <iceroot> theMAVERICK: if you dont update your system (update != upgrade) you dont get security fixes
[23:43] <martian> ActionParsnip: THat about sums it up: http://pastebin.com/Yi46Bbw6
[23:44] <iceroot> theMAVERICK: you dont have to go to 11.04 or 11.10 but you should install updates for 10.10 (which is the default option)
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> martian: can you grep for linux-image   as I asked
[23:44] <iceroot> theMAVERICK: these updates dont change functions, just fixing security issues
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> martian: :)
[23:46] <theMAVERICK> iceroot: okay, so as long as sources.list points to maverick and I don't upgrade, I shouldn't get new kernel versions?
[23:46] <martian> ActionParsnip: oops! ahh, there they are!
[23:46] <dircheck> Hi all, I noticed a probable little bug in the bash autocompletion for gdbus-bash-completion.sh and gsettings-bash-completion.sh: the files is installed wrong in /etc/etc/bash_completion.d/
[23:46] <dircheck> they should be in /etc/bash_completion.d/
[23:46] <iceroot> theMAVERICK: correct only patchlevel-kernel-updates
[23:47] <dircheck> I had found a bug report on that issue in lauchpad yesterday, but I cannot find it anymore
[23:47] <martian> ActionParsnip: iceroot mentioned to be careful to not remove the meta, only the literal; is linux-image-2.6.32-21-server the right package to nuke?
[23:47] <histo> dircheck: hrm.. there not installed that way here on debian squeeze
[23:47] <robinson> can anyone tell me how to reset window size settings in 11.10?
[23:47] <iceroot> theMAVERICK: e.g. 2.6.35-13 instead of 2.6.35-12 but never 2.6.38-x
[23:47] <iceroot> martian: yes
[23:47] <dircheck> histo: it is on ubuntu oneiric
[23:47] <iceroot> martian: linux-image-server is the metapackage
[23:47] <dircheck> probably a small error in the package
[23:47] <robinson> My save dialogs are opening WAY too big. I can resize the window, but the last opened size is not saved..
[23:47] <histo> dircheck: i'd see if anyone else can confirm here
[23:48] <martian> ActionParsnip, iceroot: as always your help has been great and xoxo :)
[23:49] <theMAVERICK> iceroot: ah, okay so that is what those mean...I can do that via synaptic or aptitude?
[23:49] <dircheck> histo: I hope any oneiric-users are on here
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> martian: can you pastebin the output of the command please
[23:49] <iceroot> theMAVERICK: both
[23:50] <iceroot> theMAVERICK: doesnt matter if you use synaptic, software-center,apt-get or aptitude, all of them are only installing sec-updates (but asking if you want 11.04)
[23:51] <iceroot> theMAVERICK: so a normal "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" will NOT change your ubuntu-version and is recommend for the security updates
[23:51] <martian> ActionParsnip: oh I didn't think you'd want that any more. Here: http://pastebin.com/Un6xFERe
[23:51] <Arcademan> Hey is xwinwrap supported on ubuntu still?
[23:51] <l3d> was wondering what is the best  media player and burning app ?
[23:51] <iceroot> !best | l3d
[23:51] <granjero-working> hi, where is "connect to server" on 11.10
[23:52] <l3d> k ty
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> martian: ok and what is the output of:  uname -a
[23:52] <theMAVERICK> iceroot: I am currently setting synaptic to prefer version maverick-security, that shoudl do the trick, right?
[23:52] <iceroot> theMAVERICK: yes
[23:52] <theMAVERICK> iceroot: thanks a bunch
[23:52] <robinson> #rehash   How can I reset default window sizes in 11.10? Got a weird issue with windows opening too large and needing to be resized, like when I need to save a file.
[23:52] <iceroot> theMAVERICK: also there is something like "dont look for release-upgrades"
[23:52] <Arcademan> ActionParsnip, is xwinwrap supported on ubuntu still?
[23:52] <martian> ActionParsnip: Linux ehs-n52 2.6.32-34-server #77-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 13 20:54:38 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:52] <iceroot> Arcademan: supported like? its not in the repos of 11.10
[23:53] <Arcademan> iceroot, im trying to find a good way on making my desktop animated :)
[23:53] <iceroot> Arcademan: play a video
[23:54] <iceroot> Arcademan: what about compiz?
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> martian: http://pastebin.com/40ut00bq
[23:54] <dircheck> histo: I've managed to find the bug again: Bug 819171
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> Arcademan: not used it in ages. I believe there is a PPA
[23:54] <dircheck> Bug #819171
[23:54] <martian> ActionParsnip: Thanks again for your help
[23:55] <jamescarr> I've been googling... where's that apt sources.list for ubuntu 9?
[23:55] <Arcademan> iceroot, how would I do that in compiz :)
[23:55] <jamescarr> I have an old desktop and I have too much on my plate to update until next week
[23:55] <iceroot> jamescarr: /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:55] <jamescarr> in the meantime, I just need to get stuff done :)
[23:55] <iceroot> jamescarr: 9.x is no longer supported
[23:55] <jamescarr> iceroot, duh
[23:55] <jamescarr> iceroot, duh
[23:55] <jamescarr> iceroot, there is some backport repo you can use though
[23:55] <iceroot> !eol | jamescarr
[23:55] <jamescarr> iceroot, DUH!!
[23:55] <jamescarr> iceroot, can you hear me!?
[23:55] <jamescarr> iceroot, can you!?
[23:55] <FloodBot1> jamescarr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> martian: makes sense if you read it, you're going to get a lot of free space back
[23:56] <jamescarr> iceroot, I want to just use the backport repo that can still be used. I admin several ubuntu boxes and they are upgraded
[23:56] <theMAVERICK> iceroot: the only options I saw under "prefer cersions from: were: maverick, maverick-security, and maverick updates
[23:56] <jamescarr> I just have a desktop that I don't have time to upgrade, and I remember there is some repo you can use with 9 still
[23:56] <iceroot> jamescarr: 9.x is no longer supported, no sec-updates doesnt matter if you use backports
[23:56] <jamescarr> iceroot, i know!
[23:56] <brahem> saludos / hello :)!
[23:56] <jamescarr> sigh... I'll go back to googling
[23:56] <brahem> how are you my friends? :D
[23:56] <jamescarr> I was just hoping someone here knew
[23:56] <iceroot> jamescarr: so what is your question?
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> jamescarr: there are no official repos for Jaunty / Karmic
[23:57] <theMAVERICK> ActionParsnip: anywhere?
[23:57] <jamescarr> iceroot, there are unofficial apt repos that mirror what the 9 repos had
[23:57] <iceroot> jamescarr: i told you its out of support and the normal repos are down
[23:57] <jamescarr> trying to find them
[23:57] <iceroot> jamescarr: read the link from ubottu
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> theMAVERICK: not official ones, there are PPAs supporting old releases
[23:57] <theMAVERICK> ActionParsnip: ah
[23:57] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: there are the archive-repos
[23:58] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: which hold the packages from eol releases
[23:58] <jamescarr> iceroot, I do not feel like spending 2 hours upgrading tonight. I will when my plate is clear
[23:58] <iceroot> jamescarr: but googling 2 hours for eol-repos?
[23:58] <eboyjr> How do I get the microphone file?
[23:58] <eboyjr> (since everythings a file)
[23:58] <eboyjr> This is for VLC
[23:58] <theMAVERICK> eboyjr: what is a microphone file?
[23:58] <eboyjr> So I can stream it
[23:58] <eboyjr> theMAVERICK: The location of the audio device
[23:59] <escott> eboyjr, sound doesn't work the same way, but the dev files are in /dev/snd
[23:59] <theMAVERICK> eboyjr: does audacity not list the device under the preferences menu?