| project2501b | hey guys. i am reading the "getting started" page. this makes no sense, syntactically speaking:You can change the settings for where a job's output goes, and where its input comes from, with the console stanza. This should be one of output (input and output from /dev/console), owner (as output and Control-C also sent the process) | 18:20 |
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| project2501b | as output and control-c also sent the process? | 18:20 |
| jhunt | project2501b: if you don't have any special requirements, just don't specify the console stanza which will discard any output from the job. | 18:21 |
| jhunt | project2501b: there's a new feature that will be available soon that adds 'console log' such that any output from a job can be logged to a file. | 18:22 |
| jhunt | project2501b: You may want to see the cookbook rather than the (dated) "Getting Started" page: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ | 18:22 |
| project2501b | jhunt: cool beans, dude | 18:23 |
| project2501b | jhunt: i am using upstart in a 20k core bioinformatics cluster. | 18:23 |
| project2501b | great way to test if the node is within required parameters :D | 18:23 |
| project2501b | jhunt: but i am talking about the wording in the page | 18:23 |
| jhunt | project2501b: now *that* sounds like cool beans to me! :) | 18:24 |
| project2501b | it might be my english, but to me that sentence makes no sense | 18:24 |
| project2501b | "also sent the process"? | 18:24 |
| project2501b | you mean "are also sent to the process"? | 18:24 |
| jhunt | project2501b: try "man 5 init" and searching for "console". init(5) is "the bible" for Upstart. | 18:24 |
| project2501b | jhunt: with a raid 6+0 over ssds, i managed to reduce the boot up time of the entire cluster from 5 hours down to 40 minutes :p | 18:25 |
| project2501b | jhunt: i get it about init. i am saying that the wording on the page, might be erroneous | 18:26 |
| project2501b | jhunt: and i am asking, i guess, for confirmation, if you think the wording is also wrong or not. | 18:26 |
| project2501b | http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html | 18:27 |
| jhunt | project2501b: fixed. | 18:29 |
| project2501b | ok! :D | 18:30 |
| project2501b | beer, bacon, linux and cute german women around me. what else could i ask? | 18:30 |
| project2501b | thanks man :) | 18:30 |
| jhunt | project2501b: np. are you running Ubuntu on this cluster? | 18:31 |
| project2501b | no. Debian | 18:31 |
| jhunt | so, you're probably using a pretty old version of upstart. We're trying to rectify that atm... | 18:31 |
| project2501b | i do not agree with the Ubuntu philosophy nor do i agree with the philosophy of its users. | 18:32 |
| project2501b | neither do i think that canonical is doing a good job | 18:32 |
| project2501b | jhunt: no prob, i am running wheezy | 18:32 |
| project2501b | but upstart is the right way out of the monolithic age, for sure. | 18:33 |
| project2501b | with so many cores, why not put them to use? | 18:33 |
| project2501b | jhunt: if i make another suggestion, you are saying at the end of the page "Events can taken arguments (passed on the emit command-line) in the form of environment variables." | 18:34 |
| jhunt | project2501b: of course. if you're allowed to (?), maybe you could blog about that setup? | 18:34 |
| project2501b | you might want to put an example there to clarify it, and leave everything else for the full guide. | 18:35 |
| project2501b | other than that, i think the getting started guide is quite excellent. | 18:35 |
| project2501b | jhunt: love to, not allowed to. | 18:35 |
| project2501b | uni i work for is kinda hush hush for its resources. | 18:35 |
| project2501b | but you may see me in SC11 | 18:35 |
| jhunt | project2501b: the material on upstart.ubuntu.com needs to be folded into the cookbook since this is where we are concentrating our efforts. You can download a pdf of the entire cookbook if you want to read offline. Rest assured we will tidy up that top-level site "real soon now" :) | 18:36 |
| jhunt | project2501b: noted. | 18:36 |
| project2501b | cookbook? do i smell an oreilly cookbook? :D | 18:36 |
| jhunt | That wasn't the original plan, but who knows? | 18:36 |
| project2501b | heh. | 18:37 |
| project2501b | upstart and gnu parallel. let's see if we can make a map reduce function in shell. | 18:37 |
| project2501b | jhunt: thank you :) | 18:37 |
| jhunt | project2501b: np - any time. | 18:37 |
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