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[00:05] is there a reason this was issued twice? === hunter is now known as Guest93416 [01:21] hi [01:28] hi [01:31] hiya, i'm having some issues upgrading to 11.10 [01:32] er [01:32] actually its in upgrading kernel to 3000 [01:33] the issue is that apt is not installing it as far as i can tell [01:35] hi [01:35] hi sebsebseb === kai_ is now known as |Kai| [01:36] uname and grub shows i have kernel 2.6.38-8-generic, in apt / software manager it shows a 32kb package called linux-image-generic which is v 3.00.12.14, and another that is 2.6.38-8.42 installed [01:37] does this mean i have the latest kernel or not, the larger 3.00 package is not installing [01:37] uname will show you the running kernel [01:37] right [01:37] grub will show you which kernel is set to be your next booting kernel [01:38] yes [01:38] if apt is having trouble installing a new kernel it will tell you why [01:38] 3.00 does not show in this list [01:38] in grub [01:38] well grub won't be updated till the new kernel is installed [01:40] i agree [01:40] this is the issue, kernel is not instalilng [01:40] right so that is the problem you need to fix [01:40] right which is why i'm here :) [01:40] it gives no error message [01:40] how do you know it's not installing then ? [01:41] how are you trying to install it ? [01:41] because its not appearing in grub, not running, and the other 3.0.00(not 32kb one) are not showing as installed in package manager (apper) === ross is now known as Guest43155 [01:41] i've tried through apt-get as well as apper [01:41] right but what is the command that you are issuing to have it install ? [01:42] sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.0.0-12-generic [01:43] and what does it output ? [01:43] can you pastebin it some where [01:43] https://gist.github.com/3323a634f5c818e9227a [01:44] SaleLLama: it's already installed === kai_ is now known as |kai- === |kai- is now known as |kai [01:45] mase_work tehre is a 145.3MB 3.0.0.12-generic package which does not install after this [01:45] the 143MB 2.6.38-8 remains === tinkerbell is now known as tinkerbell^ [01:45] what do you mean does not install...it's been installed [01:45] dpkg -l | grep linux-image [01:47] https://gist.github.com/289002e16bf3843f3f0d [01:47] ii linux-image-3.0.0-12-generic 3.0.0-12.20 [01:47] why it doesn't replace then [01:49] why does this not appear in grub and load then mase_work ? [01:49] perhaps that package it's self doesn't issue grub-update [01:49] it may be in the linux-image metapackage [01:50] i am not a packaging expert so i am unsure why grub hasn't been updated but the kernel it's self looks like it's been installed [01:50] you should have the image in /boot [01:50] and modules in /lib/modules [01:51] yes it appears there [01:51] so i manually update grub then [01:51] well you should update the config file and run grub-update [01:52] mmk [01:52] i ran update-grub [01:52] found kernel and updated menu.list [01:52] i will reboot now ye? [01:52] sure. i don't know what your end game is so it's up to you [01:52] what do you mean end game [01:53] i'm not sure what you are trying to achieve. [01:53] trying to update kernel :X [01:53] do-release-upgrade should install that for you [01:53] if you are moving to 11.10 [01:53] i thought i had moved to 11.10 which would use kernel 3000 etc [01:53] but this was not the case apparently [01:54] it does, and it's likely that your upgrade failed for some reason [01:54] when i re check for updates and what not it says everything is up to date [01:54] it really scratched my head [01:54] k [01:55] test === TheEvilPhoenix is now known as Resistance [03:02] I'm having a problem installing the 11.10 32bit kubuntu onto a thinkpad x120e computer. I can get through the installer, and probably around halfway through when the monitor turns black, and the only way to get it back is a hard reset. what do I do? [03:15] Linkmaster: When this happens do the three lights on the keyboard all keep blinking together ? [03:20] genii-around: this computer doesn't have three lights on the keyboard, but the power light remains on [03:21] Linkmaster: When this happens does the hard drive light keep blinking as if there is activity or just stay dark? [03:22] genii-around: there isn't a harddrive light either D: There is only a "turned on" light, a "turned on/you have power" light, and a "its suspended" light. thats it [03:22] but, the harddrive does get quiet sounding [03:25] Linkmaster: Before the point where it goes dark, perhaps in console to try: sudo xset -dpms ... this will turn off the monitor's power saving/blanking [03:25] hmm...worth a shot [03:25] let me set everything up, se what it does genii-around [03:25] OK [03:26] !support [03:26] The official Kubuntu support channel is #kubuntu. Also see http://www.kubuntu.com/support.php [03:32] genii-around: I've got a different problem now...my computer that allows me to change my USB installer between disks isn't working [04:43] hello, could some one help me enable the wireless on my laptop? [05:56] Ugh. NickServ keeps bothering me until I identify. Too bad I can't back up my auto-identify certificate. [05:57] Is there a way I can tell if I don't have a needed driver? [06:46] help! [06:46] I've got no sound at all. [06:47] have you tried unmuting every channel?| [06:48] Yes [06:48] now, any ideas if I can have a window that minimizees when focus is lost, or only takes focus when clicked on on the bar down the bottom [06:48] LINKSWORD2: what's your sound system look like? [06:49] What's the name of the audio program that KDE starts? [06:49] I would tell you but I can't currently access my menu :) [06:49] Nothing too fancy. Just a speaker and a power switch. [06:49] I meant, sound card? usb? etc. [06:49] Built in on the motherboard. [06:50] And I found the problem now. The plug wasn't all the way in. [06:50] * LINKSWORD2 facepalms.* [06:50] well I got my menu back [06:53] Cool. Anything else you need help with? [06:53] well, if you can help me with minimizing a window wwhen it looses focus I'll be happy :) [06:55] I'm not really sure what you mean. [06:56] nah, don't worry. It's an odd project that few have been able to help with. And I'll probably learn more struggling for now :) [06:57] trying to use the kde menu outside of kde [07:53] HI, im trying to mount an ftp location automatically via curlftp, but i have '/' in my password so when i specify: user:**/**@myserver it fails since it thinks the / are a special character. Is there an easy way to fix this? [07:55] erinaceus: can you escape iut with a \ ? [07:55] well_laid_lawn: Nope, just tried that, putting it in " ' " doesnt work either [07:56] ok. might be easier to make a sane password without the / [07:56] *sigh* thats what i feared. Thanks anyways === amichair_ is now known as amichair === luca__ is now known as luc4 === atlas is now known as 16WAARRB7 [10:51] hello im in a hype trouble. I tried upgrading 10.04 to 10.10 and it got code 1 error. Now i cannot login to my os. Burned to cd and usb newest 11.10. Checked bios boot priorities.Now all i get is disk boot failure... so usb kubuntu and cd kubuntu doesnt load to install new os.. [10:57] cmon guys.. maybe i have missed something to check.. im really screwed === jussi is now known as Guest46812 [11:03] Morning. My time to ask. Is anyone else experiencing difficulties to connect to certain wifi points? [11:05] Inadaptado: could you be a tad more specific? [11:06] hi all [11:07] how can I set up ldap for kde [11:08] I have configure in kontact but I need to import the contacts [11:08] Of course. Thing is, I've noticed my laptop sometimes has problems to connect to a wifi whereas my girlfriend does not. Also, if I change to Windows (I have a dual boot) it also seems to work better [11:08] I only want to set up to query contacts for kmail ... [11:08] My guess is it has something to do with which routers it tries to connect to. My landlord has recently changed ours and now I have more problems than before [11:09] Inadaptado: does it use an encryption? [11:10] Aprendiz: you want to retrieve contacts from an LDAP server? [11:10] You mean password-protected, as opposed to open wifi? [11:10] Inadaptado: WiFi is just a generic term for a wireless access, it can be open or encrypted [11:11] I get that, I wasn't sure if you meant average password protection or something more sophisticated. If it is the first, then yes [11:12] I experience problems with networks that are encrypted only if they have a weak signal, then I have to retype the password, but in general it connects well, using a Lenovo x220 with Kubuntu 11.10 [11:13] and I haven seen any difference in Windows either. Do you get any messages? [11:13] can someone help me? :( [11:13] Mamarok: yes [11:13] That's pretty much my issue, whenever the signal is weak it disconnects too often. Thing is, I have read complains about KDE's networking before, so I am not sure if it is a software issue or just our new routers are worthless [11:14] sdfds: We can try. What's your issue? [11:14] I have configure but it looks like I need to import, I only want to use for retrieve the information in real time [11:14] Aprendiz: AFAIK you must add the ressource to Akonadi [11:15] in thunderbird if I configure ldap when I write a new mail I can use mails from ldap and I want to do the same in kmail [11:15] I though if I configure in kontact I could use for all kde [11:15] inadaptado sorry i wasnt in the mood to write a decent nickname [11:15] Aprendiz: well, thunbderbird is not KDE [11:15] hello im in a hype trouble. I tried upgrading 10.04 to 10.10 and it got code 1 error. Now i cannot login to my os. Burned to cd and usb newest 11.10. Checked bios boot priorities.Now all i get is disk boot failure... so usb kubuntu and cd kubuntu doesnt load to install new os.. [11:16] swaped different cdrom.. same problem. tried usb and cd on notebook.works like charm. [11:17] Aprendiz: only if the other KDE application also uses Akonadi [11:19] Mamarok: I think kmail use akonadi, don't I= [11:20] sdfds: Sorry, well beyond my paygrade. Nonetheless, one question, have you put usb / cd on top of boot list? [11:20] Aprendiz: yes, of course [11:21] Mamarok: in akonadi, where can I configure ldap? [11:21] This is very, very annoying [11:22] Aprendiz: if you configured it in Kmail already nit should already be there, now you just need to add the contacts ressources [11:22] it* [11:24] inadaptado yes i tried booting from usb, cdrom.. i can see the pc tries to load from them but then fails for some unknown reason.And im still angry about kubuntu uprade error failure.Maybe its because of that i cannot boot [11:26] Probably won't do nothing, but, have you tried putting your hard drive on top of the boot list and trying to install selecting the device? [11:26] won't do anything* [11:31] inadaptado i completely removed cdrom and hdd and it still tells me disc boot failure.. i think that mobo is broken or something is not right.The only not tested thing is to take that hdd and install kubuntu from different pc but i cant do that yet.Have no permission from my boss. [11:31] how can I create a user without a password? dont question this decision, I did not make it. But Kubuntu does not allow me to; I can however make KDM allow me to login without password although when doing User Switching (which is commonly practised there) it still asks for the password [11:32] sdfds: I see. Then I can't help you any further, sorry, hope someone here has more answeres [11:39] Mamarok: I have configured in kontact but doesn't work, I need to import, but I don't want to import, only retrieve [11:39] hi! how do i forward incoming requests to a port (say 80) to a different port (say 8000)? [11:39] How do I create an icon in my favorites for a command line program? [11:40] Ripp__: create a launcher for it first [11:40] How do I do that? [11:40] I can probably google it, nm [11:40] thanks [11:42] Ripp__: just create a new "Link to application" from your dolphin or konqueror [11:42] Aprendiz: I wilol try to set it up myself, didn't try that [11:44] Aprendiz: you might want to search and ask in http://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=20 [11:51] Mamarok: thanks [11:51] Aprendiz: you are welcome, sorry I couldn't help more [12:12] Mamarok: I found it, we need to add in kde resources :D === jussi is now known as Guest53815 [12:13] can anyone help wtih kubuntu booting cd or usb? [12:19] Aprendiz: thanks for the inf :) [12:28] i got this strange effect that i can't access github repos no more from behind the proxy with my kubuntu 11.10 box ... it worked fine on 11.04 ... by now i got version 1.7.7.1-1~ppa0 of git ... funny thing is that on osx it still works through the proxy (just updated from 1.7.4 to 1.7.7 both worked fine) ... simple export https_proxy [12:28] any hint on what could be the reason is appreciated ... [12:29] did you check your proxy settings? This has nothing to do with your git version === jussi is now known as Guest23483 [12:31] Mamarok: exactly i think so too ... as I tryed different git versions ... (the one from kubuntu 11.10 and then the one from the ppa) ... yes proxy is set by -> export https_proxy="ip:port" [12:32] Mamarok: it all worked fine in 11.04 ... stopped workind with the update [12:46] delight: likely something changed in your proxy settings then [13:56] morning === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:07] Hiyas all [14:19] hi, is there a way to re-install kpackagemanager on kubuntu 11.10? [14:30] Thecaptain2000: what's kpackagemanager? Do you mean kpackagekit [14:30] if yes, that's called apper in 11.10 if you want to install it [14:30] yes, I did find the way tho, there is a package called kpackagekit (no fantasy there :) ) [14:31] Thecaptain2000, but why ? [14:31] there is, but it's only purpose is to install apper [14:31] it'sclunkier then it's replacement . muon [14:31] than [14:33] because muon sucks, you try to look, ofr example for mysql or postgres and you won0t find them [14:35] Thecaptain2000: they show up fine in the package manager [14:36] Thecaptain2000, i recommend synaptic , it's not kde , but in my book it's the best package manager ..an excellent reference even for those of us who prefer to install via cli === ejat- is now known as ejat [14:37] sorry, I just found out there are two muon, the software center and the package manager [14:37] and I had used the Software center before [14:37] why are there two muon? [14:38] ok, the first time I searched on the package manager I did find mysql [14:38] not I can'0t find it [14:38] anymore [14:40] funny enough if you launch the software center then you won't find mysql in the package manager, you close it and re-launch package manager and there it is again [14:43] hi! i got a problem, i have a notebook and a second screen plugged in. now if i drag a window (which is on the notebook-monitor in the foreground) onto this second screen it suddenly is in the background [14:45] does anybody know this problem? === OerHeks is now known as Oer [14:50] I'm having problems with apps not holding their size and position settings, especially ktorrent, has anyone else experienced this ? [15:16] hey, my power usage on default kde session is around 30W but on failsafe its 12-15W. Can anyone explain what does failsafe disable? [15:28] samba? [15:29] ? === Riddelll is now known as Riddell === dill is now known as DILL === root is now known as Guest29636 [15:53] Is anyone active in here? [15:54] dpac: such question generally doesn't get any answer [15:54] if you have a question, just ask :) [15:54] what he said ^^^ [15:55] Kolia: I posted a question few hours back, no one replied. So I thought its better to ask before asking. [15:56] dpac: nah, just ask again after a reasonable delay :) [15:56] Anyways, so I had trouble logging in so I renamed my .kde to .kde2 and logged in. Figured it was a problem with opengl, so disabled opengl in .kde2/share/config/kwinrc. Renamed .kde2 back to .kde [15:56] Now when I login, all my settings are gone [15:56] kopete accounts [15:56] everything :( [15:57] well duh [15:57] :P [15:58] just look for conf files of Kopete and return them to your new .kde folde [15:58] r [15:59] ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/ [15:59] is where they should be [16:01] ArchangelSe7en: Thanks.. but any reason where anything went wrong [16:01] ArchangelSe7en: I mean its technically renaming .kde to .kde2 and back .kde [16:02] thought you created a new one , did you launch Kopete when your folder was still named .kde2 ? [16:09] ArchangelSe7en: No.. I've renamed it back to .kde [16:13] I have a problem with Nepomuk crashing can anyone helo? [16:15] eamon: I have that same problem too.. Does it happen on booting? [16:17] Yeah everytime, the message is [16:17] The name org.kde.NepomukStorage was not provided by any .service files [16:17] eamon: Same problem.. couldn't figure out how to fix it.. [16:18] I read about deleting the Nepomuk folder in .kde share [16:18] but it didnt work [16:19] ArchangelSe7en: I missed one detail. I logged in failsafe mode after renaming .kde to .kde2. Does that change anything? [16:19] dpac: Is that related to Nepomuk crashing? [16:20] dpac, I dont think so [16:21] I guess you'll have to recreate your accounts [16:21] brb === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [16:49] russian chanel [16:51] k0s: You need a channel in russian? [16:51] obviously not [16:51] :P [16:51] heheh [16:52] some people... you could give them 2 brain cells and they couldn't rub them together and start a fire :) [16:52] * BarkingFish sighs and goes back to fixing his iPAQ [16:54] amarok 2.4.3 seems to be crashing a lot [16:54] :-( [16:55] :/me hates it when amarok crashes a lot [16:55] oops [16:56] a lot of stuff seems to crash a lot in Oneiric.. Konversation does, the newest Flash player does.. [16:56] yes, konversation is crashing a lot, too [16:56] i am always wishing for a stable kubuntu, but in my opinion, there never has been one [16:57] although some have been much less crashy than some others [16:59] hello [17:00] What is the recommended place to set the KDEWM variable? [17:19] Hi [17:19] i NEED HELP [17:21] hi, what do you need help with? [17:22] u know how delete "lock" on kubuntu?? [17:28] ??/ [17:32] what 'lock'? [17:34] i cant run 2 donwload [17:35] !details [17:35] Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [17:36] ok [17:38] i cant download 2 files. because the files #lock# stop it [17:38] Do you get an error message? [17:39] Do you mean you're tryin to download something from some website? [17:41] yes [17:42] error messenge said about '/var/lib/dpkg/lock' [17:43] . [17:43] ist compliqued [17:44] lol.. you don't run 2 instances of the pkg manager; if you want to install more than 1 package, just select everything you want to install, and it will be downloaded one after another (or, if your bandwidth permits, you'll get 2 downloads concurrently) [17:44] !ar [17:44] La comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe [17:44] dang [17:45] szal> what dang? [17:45] koch: nothing of interest to you ;) [17:45] ok [17:46] I need a application like 'download manager' [17:47] no, you don't, at least not for package management [17:48] eurk.... [17:48] I dnt like use kget [17:49] koch- are you trying to download packages to install on Kubuntu? [17:49] yes [17:50] right, we have programs for that already, koch. [17:50] ok [17:50] There are programs like apper, synaptic and muon which are intended for package installations. [17:51] You can also install programs over your command line or through a terminal, using sudo apt-get install followed by the name of the program you want [17:51] okay.. [17:52] so do you have any of those programs already installed? They'll be in your [K] menu under System if you have. [17:53] limited [17:54] what do you mean, limited? You only have one of them? [17:55] yep [17:55] ok, so which one do you have please? [17:58] koch, you still with me? [17:58] yess [17:59] :p [17:59] ok, so which one of the programs I mentioned do you have in your menu please? [17:59] u know how boot a connxion?? [17:59] wait [18:00] !arabic | koch, probably helpful [18:00] koch, probably helpful: For Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية [18:01] i use kubuntu 11.4,... I dnt have another application [18:02] just dafault program [18:02] koch - if you're on Kubuntu 11.04, you probably have a program called kpackagekit [18:02] szal> ur are arab?/ [18:02] koch: no [18:02] barkingFish>>> wait [18:04] yes I have [18:04] ok [18:05] right, well if you open kpackagekit, you should be able to download all your programs through there. You may need to get some sources for your software, I don't know if they are already set up. [18:05] I have a program kpackagekit [18:05] And unfortunately, I don't have the time to help you do that. [18:05] ok [18:06] koch: if you press ALT + F2, and type kpackagekit (or click it in the menu) you'll get the program up and you can go from there. [18:06] ok [18:08] ok then, I have to go for a while, to get some food and some rest. I will be back in maybe two hours. [18:08] ok [18:08] no problem [18:21] the task manager in the panel contains an empty slot sometimes. When a window is open, it's not aligned to the left, but some space is left as if an invisible window is open. is that a bug with the task manager? [18:23] adarshajoisa, got the same bug === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 [18:23] but as to if it's a known bug, I don't know yet [18:24] adarshajoisa, it helps to close all the windows of the active desktop, then reopen them again [18:25] lethu: nope, that doesn't work for me. when i open a window after closing everything, the space is still there. [18:27] adarshajoisa, have you tried switching to another desktop then switching back and trying again? [18:27] adarshajoisa, it generally works for me [18:27] tried that too. doesn't work. it works only if i restart plasma desktop [18:30] adarshajoisa, it's a known bug [18:30] adarshajoisa, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8FA1yGM0gA [18:33] lethu: ok.. let's hope someone fixes it soon. :) [18:33] adarshajoisa, yup [18:33] * lethu crosses fingers [18:34] lethu: :) removing the task manager and adding a new one to the panel also works, btw [18:35] adarshajoisa, good to know [18:36] adarshajoisa, you can also do $ killall plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop [18:37] lethu: cool! i didn't know the command to restart plasma. I used to logout n login again. :P [18:38] adarshajoisa, ;) [19:19] Hmm, just realized I don't seem to be able to turn off my bluetooth in Kubuntu on my HP dv6 [19:19] the option is there, but it does not stick. [19:21] Where can I set the KDEWM variable to have compiz instead of kwin? [19:22] So widget -> Turn off bluetooth does nothing on my system, neither does widget -> Configure bluetooth -> Adapters -> Powered (uncheck) [19:24] Does it work for others? === moji_ is now known as moji [20:03] anyone speak french?? [20:03] oui. [20:03] Hi all [20:04] can anyone here can give me the user id and group id for mysql server / service ? [20:04] thnx pasnox..i nedd ur help [20:06] just expose your problem. someone will try to help [20:06] PasNox: from my servers passwd file: [20:06] mysql:x:118:129:MySQL Server,,,:/var/lib/mysql:/bin/false [20:07] yofel: strange , i just checked mine, it say 113 / 123 xD [20:07] comment faire pour avoir la totaliter de ma connection [20:07] but i assume it's not really important ? [20:08] shouldn't be, unless you have old files from another system that you might need to chown [20:08] koch: first write without mistakesin words, then speak uk, it's an english channel here. [20:08] ok [20:08] if u want french, go #kubuntu-fr [20:08] thanks, [20:13] anyone use lubuntu?? [20:13] koch: The folks in #lubuntu do :) [20:15] thanks Pici [20:26] why is my task manager making two rows when i've set it to one, allowing only one item per "column", but each item is half-height?? [20:26] more importantly, how do i remedy this situation? :) === wojtek_ is now known as wojtek === kids is now known as glittertwin [21:35] why is it that when i add a kde menu item manually via the editor, i save it. it doesnt show up in the menu, nor the editor, then i include "hidden" items, and i see it, but my menu item is NOT hidden (unchecked). how to have it show up in the menu launcher? [21:35] i'm on 11.10 kde [21:36] do i need to logout and back in? [21:36] I don't think so [21:36] have you checked your menu entry manually? [21:37] yes [21:37] so, is group set up properly? [21:37] its there under my Internet group [21:38] have name, no desc, nor commetn. put the command 'java -jar /home/me/.jdownloader/JDownloader.jar', the check boxes are unchecked [21:39] i saved it. it said updating system config [21:39] sounds like kde bug 283579 [21:39] KDE bug 283579 in general "Every new app is hidden" [Normal,New] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=283579 [21:39] then when i go back into the editor, its not there, until i include "hidden" apps. either way it doesnt show up either. why such a mainstream bug? anytime someone adds a menu item? [21:40] seems like a pretty important bug, not a weird use case [21:42] ubottu: yes seems like that same bug [21:42] AndroidLoverInSF: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [21:43] heh [21:43] !botsnack [21:43] Yum! Err, I mean, APT! [21:44] good bot :P [21:55] such a glaring bug! [22:19] how can i disable the tooltip message shown for the taskbar entries [22:20] for taskmanager entries === g_ is now known as Guest68373 [22:34] phoenix_firebrd, >task manager settings [22:34] phoenix_firebrd, then uncheck "show tooltips" [22:35] lethu: it worked, thank you [22:35] phoenix_firebrd, yw [22:37] any thoughts on why my task manager is making two rows when i've set it to one, allowing only one item per "column", but each item is half-height?? [22:39] MeanderingCode, try $ killall plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop [22:39] MeanderingCode, if that doesn't work try resizing the task bar a bit [22:39] lethu: this is persistant across many reboots :( [22:39] MeanderingCode, try resizing it then [22:40] no luck [22:40] it doesn't always happen [22:43] MeanderingCode, have you tried reverting to default settings? [22:44] MeanderingCode, you could also reset kde settings, I don't know which part of the .kde folder is responsible of the taskbar [22:44] tho [22:45] the setting isn't changing...it always has the value "1" for max rows...i am pretty leery of resetting kde, lots of customization [22:45] well, enough to take too much time [22:46] but i could try removing the task manager and adding it again [22:46] MeanderingCode, removing the task manager then making a new one is known to fix some issues [22:47] just did so...it's good right now, i'll find out if it starts happening again [22:47]