[00:02] <Guest88835> Bonjour
[00:03] <well_laid_lawn> Guest88835: if you need a french channel
[00:03] <well_laid_lawn> !fr
[00:04] <Guest88835> !fr
[00:05] <TheEvilPhoenix> is there a reason this was issued twice?
[01:21] <LNXiu> hi
[01:28] <mase_work> hi
[01:31] <SaleLLama> hiya, i'm having some issues upgrading to 11.10
[01:32] <SaleLLama> er
[01:32] <SaleLLama> actually its in upgrading kernel to 3000
[01:33] <SaleLLama> the issue is that apt is not installing it as far as i can tell
[01:35] <sebsebseb> hi
[01:35] <mase_work> hi sebsebseb
[01:36] <SaleLLama> uname and grub shows i have kernel 2.6.38-8-generic, in apt / software manager it shows a 32kb package called linux-image-generic which  is v 3.00.12.14, and another that is 2.6.38-8.42 installed
[01:37] <SaleLLama> does this mean i have the latest kernel or not, the larger 3.00 package is not installing
[01:37] <mase_work> uname will show you the running kernel
[01:37] <SaleLLama> right
[01:37] <mase_work> grub will show you which kernel is set to be your next booting kernel
[01:38] <SaleLLama> yes
[01:38] <mase_work> if apt is having trouble installing a new kernel it will tell you why
[01:38] <SaleLLama> 3.00 does not show in this list
[01:38] <SaleLLama> in grub
[01:38] <mase_work> well grub won't be updated till the new kernel is installed
[01:40] <SaleLLama> i agree
[01:40] <SaleLLama> this is the issue, kernel is not instalilng
[01:40] <mase_work> right so that is the problem you need to fix
[01:40] <SaleLLama> right which is why i'm here :)
[01:40] <SaleLLama> it gives no error message
[01:40] <mase_work> how do you know it's not installing then ?
[01:41] <mase_work> how are you trying to install it ?
[01:41] <SaleLLama> because its not appearing in grub, not running, and the other 3.0.00(not 32kb one) are not showing as installed in package manager (apper)
[01:41] <SaleLLama> i've tried through apt-get as well as apper
[01:41] <mase_work> right but what is the command that you  are issuing to have it install ?
[01:42] <SaleLLama> sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.0.0-12-generic
[01:43] <mase_work> and what does it output ?
[01:43] <mase_work> can you pastebin it some where
[01:43] <SaleLLama> https://gist.github.com/3323a634f5c818e9227a
[01:44] <mase_work> SaleLLama: it's already installed
[01:45] <SaleLLama> mase_work tehre is a 145.3MB 3.0.0.12-generic package which does not install after this
[01:45] <SaleLLama> the 143MB 2.6.38-8 remains
[01:45] <mase_work> what do you mean does not install...it's been installed
[01:45] <mase_work> dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[01:47] <SaleLLama> https://gist.github.com/289002e16bf3843f3f0d
[01:47] <mase_work> ii  linux-image-3.0.0-12-generic                                3.0.0-12.20
[01:47] <SaleLLama> why it doesn't replace then
[01:49] <SaleLLama> why does this not appear in grub and load then mase_work ?
[01:49] <mase_work> perhaps that package it's self doesn't issue grub-update
[01:49] <mase_work> it may be in the linux-image metapackage
[01:50] <mase_work> i am not a packaging expert so i am unsure why grub hasn't been updated but the kernel it's self looks like it's been installed
[01:50] <mase_work> you should have the image in /boot
[01:50] <mase_work> and modules in /lib/modules
[01:51] <SaleLLama> yes it appears there
[01:51] <SaleLLama> so i manually update grub then
[01:51] <mase_work> well you should update the config file and run grub-update
[01:52] <SaleLLama> mmk
[01:52] <SaleLLama> i ran update-grub
[01:52] <SaleLLama> found kernel and updated menu.list
[01:52] <SaleLLama> i will reboot now ye?
[01:52] <mase_work> sure. i don't know what your end game is so it's up to you
[01:52] <SaleLLama> what do you mean end game
[01:53] <mase_work> i'm not sure what you are trying to achieve.
[01:53] <SaleLLama> trying to update kernel :X
[01:53] <mase_work> do-release-upgrade should install that for you
[01:53] <mase_work> if you are moving to 11.10
[01:53] <SaleLLama> i thought i had moved to 11.10 which would use kernel 3000 etc
[01:53] <SaleLLama> but this was not the case apparently
[01:54] <mase_work> it does, and it's likely that your upgrade failed for some reason
[01:54] <SaleLLama> when i re check for updates and what not it says everything is up to date
[01:54] <SaleLLama> it really scratched my head
[01:54] <mase_work> k
[01:55] <adam___> test
[03:02] <Linkmaster> I'm having a problem installing the 11.10 32bit kubuntu onto a thinkpad x120e computer. I can get through the installer, and probably around halfway through when the monitor turns black, and the only way to get it back is a hard reset. what do I do?
[03:15] <genii-around> Linkmaster: When this happens do the three lights on  the keyboard all keep blinking together ?
[03:20] <Linkmaster> genii-around: this computer doesn't have three lights on the keyboard, but the power light remains on
[03:21] <genii-around> Linkmaster: When this happens does the hard drive light keep blinking as if there is activity or just stay dark?
[03:22] <Linkmaster> genii-around: there isn't a harddrive light either D: There is only a "turned on" light, a "turned on/you have power" light, and a "its suspended" light. thats it
[03:22] <Linkmaster> but, the harddrive does get quiet sounding
[03:25] <genii-around> Linkmaster: Before the point where it goes dark, perhaps in console to try: sudo xset -dpms     ... this will turn off the monitor's power saving/blanking
[03:25] <Linkmaster> hmm...worth a shot
[03:25] <Linkmaster> let me set everything up, se what it does genii-around
[03:25] <genii-around> OK
[03:26] <genii-around> !support
[03:32] <Linkmaster> genii-around: I've got a different problem now...my computer that allows me to change my USB installer between disks isn't working
[04:43] <rizz> hello, could some one help me enable the wireless on my laptop?
[05:56] <LINKSWORD2> Ugh. NickServ keeps bothering me until I identify. Too bad I can't back up my auto-identify certificate.
[05:57] <LINKSWORD2> Is there a way I can tell if I don't have a needed driver?
[06:46] <LINKSWORD2> help!
[06:46] <LINKSWORD2> I've got no sound at all.
[06:47] <vehemoth> have you tried unmuting every channel?|
[06:48] <LINKSWORD2> Yes
[06:48] <vehemoth> now, any ideas if I can have a window that minimizees when focus is lost, or only takes focus when clicked on on the bar down the bottom
[06:48] <vehemoth> LINKSWORD2: what's your sound system look like?
[06:49] <LINKSWORD2> What's the name of the audio program that KDE starts?
[06:49] <vehemoth> I would tell you but I can't currently access my menu :)
[06:49] <LINKSWORD2> Nothing too fancy. Just a speaker and a power switch.
[06:49] <vehemoth> I meant, sound card? usb? etc.
[06:49] <LINKSWORD2> Built in on the motherboard.
[06:50] <LINKSWORD2> And I found the problem now. The plug wasn't all the way in.
[06:50]  * LINKSWORD2 facepalms.*
[06:50] <vehemoth> well I got my menu back
[06:53] <LINKSWORD2> Cool. Anything else you need help with?
[06:53] <vehemoth> well, if you can help me with minimizing a window wwhen it looses focus I'll be happy :)
[06:55] <LINKSWORD2> I'm not really sure what you mean.
[06:56] <vehemoth> nah, don't worry. It's an odd project that few have been able to help with. And I'll probably learn more struggling for now :)
[06:57] <vehemoth> trying to use the kde menu outside of kde
[07:53] <erinaceus> HI, im trying to mount an ftp location automatically via curlftp, but i have '/' in my password so when i specify: user:**/**@myserver it fails since it thinks the / are a special character. Is there an easy way to fix this?
[07:55] <well_laid_lawn> erinaceus: can you escape iut with a \ ?
[07:55] <erinaceus> well_laid_lawn: Nope, just tried that, putting it in " ' " doesnt work either
[07:56] <well_laid_lawn> ok. might be easier to make a sane password without the /
[07:56] <erinaceus> *sigh* thats what i feared. Thanks anyways
[10:51] <sdfds> hello im in a hype trouble. I tried upgrading 10.04 to 10.10 and it got code 1 error. Now i cannot login to my os. Burned to cd and usb newest 11.10. Checked bios boot priorities.Now all i get is disk boot failure... so usb kubuntu and cd kubuntu doesnt load to install new os..
[10:57] <sdfds> cmon guys.. maybe i have missed something to check.. im really screwed
[11:03] <Inadaptado> Morning. My time to ask. Is anyone else experiencing difficulties to connect to certain wifi points?
[11:05] <Mamarok> Inadaptado: could you be a tad more specific?
[11:06] <Aprendiz> hi all
[11:07] <Aprendiz> how can I set up ldap for kde
[11:08] <Aprendiz> I have configure in kontact but I need to import the contacts
[11:08] <Inadaptado> Of course. Thing is, I've noticed my laptop sometimes has problems to connect to a wifi whereas my girlfriend does not. Also, if I change to Windows (I have a dual boot) it also seems to work better
[11:08] <Aprendiz> I only want to set up to query contacts for kmail ...
[11:08] <Inadaptado> My guess is it has something to do with which routers it tries to connect to. My landlord has recently changed ours and now I have more problems than before
[11:09] <Mamarok> Inadaptado: does it use an encryption?
[11:10] <Mamarok> Aprendiz: you want to retrieve contacts from an LDAP server?
[11:10] <Inadaptado> You mean password-protected, as opposed to open wifi?
[11:10] <Mamarok> Inadaptado: WiFi is just a generic term for a wireless access, it can be open or encrypted
[11:11] <Inadaptado> I get that, I wasn't sure if you meant average password protection or something more sophisticated. If it is the first, then yes
[11:12] <Mamarok> I experience problems with networks that are encrypted only if they have a weak signal, then I have to retype the password, but in general it connects well, using a Lenovo x220 with Kubuntu 11.10
[11:13] <Mamarok> and I haven seen any difference in Windows either. Do you get any messages?
[11:13] <sdfds> can someone help me? :(
[11:13] <Aprendiz> Mamarok: yes
[11:13] <Inadaptado> That's pretty much my issue, whenever the signal is weak it disconnects too often. Thing is, I have read complains about KDE's networking before, so I am not sure if it is a software issue or just our new routers are worthless
[11:14] <Inadaptado> sdfds: We can try. What's your issue?
[11:14] <Aprendiz> I have configure but it looks like I need to import, I only want to use for retrieve the information in real time
[11:14] <Mamarok> Aprendiz: AFAIK you must add the ressource to Akonadi
[11:15] <Aprendiz> in thunderbird if I configure ldap when I write a new mail I can use mails from ldap and I want to do the same in kmail
[11:15] <Aprendiz> I though if I configure in kontact I could use for all kde
[11:15] <sdfds> inadaptado sorry i wasnt in the mood to write a decent nickname
[11:15] <Mamarok> Aprendiz: well, thunbderbird is not KDE
[11:15] <sdfds> hello im in a hype trouble. I tried upgrading 10.04 to 10.10 and it got code 1 error. Now i cannot login to my os. Burned to cd and usb newest 11.10. Checked bios boot priorities.Now all i get is disk boot failure... so usb kubuntu and cd kubuntu doesnt load to install new os..
[11:16] <sdfds> swaped different cdrom.. same problem. tried usb and cd on notebook.works like charm.
[11:17] <Mamarok> Aprendiz: only if the other KDE application also uses Akonadi
[11:19] <Aprendiz> Mamarok: I think kmail use akonadi, don't I=
[11:20] <Inadaptado> sdfds: Sorry, well beyond my paygrade. Nonetheless, one question, have you put usb / cd on top of boot list?
[11:20] <Mamarok> Aprendiz: yes, of course
[11:21] <Aprendiz> Mamarok: in akonadi, where can I configure ldap?
[11:21] <Inadaptado> This is very, very annoying
[11:22] <Mamarok> Aprendiz: if you configured it in Kmail already nit should already be there, now you just need to add the contacts ressources
[11:22] <Mamarok> it*
[11:24] <sdfds> inadaptado yes i tried booting from usb, cdrom.. i can see the pc tries to load from them but then fails for some unknown reason.And im still angry about kubuntu uprade error failure.Maybe its because of that i cannot boot
[11:26] <Inadaptado> Probably won't do nothing, but, have you tried putting your hard drive on top of the boot list and trying to install selecting the device?
[11:26] <Inadaptado> won't do anything*
[11:31] <sdfds> inadaptado i completely removed cdrom and hdd and it still tells me disc boot failure.. i think that mobo is broken or something is not right.The only not tested thing is to take that hdd and install kubuntu from different pc but i cant do that yet.Have no permission from my boss.
[11:31] <kbroulik> how can I create a user without a password? dont question this decision, I did not make it. But Kubuntu does not allow me to; I can however make KDM allow me to login without password although when doing User Switching (which is commonly practised there) it still asks for the password
[11:32] <Inadaptado> sdfds: I see. Then I can't help you any further, sorry, hope someone here has more answeres
[11:39] <Aprendiz> Mamarok: I have configured in kontact but doesn't work, I need to import, but I don't want to import, only retrieve
[11:39] <fayaz> hi! how do i forward incoming requests to a port (say 80) to a different port (say 8000)?
[11:39] <Ripp__> How do I create an icon in my favorites for a command line program?
[11:40] <fayaz> Ripp__: create a launcher for it first
[11:40] <Ripp__> How do I do that?
[11:40] <Ripp__> I can probably google it, nm
[11:40] <Ripp__> thanks
[11:42] <fayaz> Ripp__: just create a new "Link to application" from your dolphin or konqueror
[11:42] <Mamarok> Aprendiz: I wilol try to set it up myself, didn't try that
[11:44] <Mamarok> Aprendiz: you might want to search and ask in http://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=20
[11:51] <Aprendiz> Mamarok: thanks
[11:51] <Mamarok> Aprendiz: you are welcome, sorry I couldn't help more
[12:12] <Aprendiz> Mamarok: I found it, we need to add in kde resources :D
[12:13] <sdfds> can anyone help wtih kubuntu booting cd or usb?
[12:19] <Mamarok> Aprendiz: thanks for the inf :)
[12:28] <delight> i got this strange effect that i can't access github repos no more from behind the proxy with my kubuntu 11.10 box ... it worked fine on 11.04 ... by now i got version 1.7.7.1-1~ppa0  of git ... funny thing is that on osx it still works through the proxy (just updated from 1.7.4 to 1.7.7 both worked fine) ... simple export https_proxy
[12:28] <delight> any hint on what could be the reason is appreciated ...
[12:29] <Mamarok> did you check your proxy settings? This has nothing to do with your git version
[12:31] <delight> Mamarok: exactly i think so too ... as I tryed different git versions ... (the one from kubuntu 11.10 and then the one from the ppa) ... yes proxy is set by -> export https_proxy="ip:port"
[12:32] <delight> Mamarok: it all worked fine in 11.04 ... stopped workind with the update
[12:46] <Mamarok> delight: likely something changed in your proxy settings then
[13:56] <sirfilip> morning
[14:07] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:19] <Thecaptain2000> hi, is there a way to re-install kpackagemanager on kubuntu 11.10?
[14:30] <yofel> Thecaptain2000: what's kpackagemanager? Do you mean kpackagekit
[14:30] <yofel> if yes, that's called apper in 11.10 if you want to install it
[14:30] <Thecaptain2000> yes, I did find the way tho, there is a  package called kpackagekit (no fantasy there :)  )
[14:31] <BluesKaj> Thecaptain2000, but why ?
[14:31] <yofel> there is, but it's only purpose is to install apper
[14:31] <BluesKaj> it'sclunkier then it's replacement . muon
[14:31] <BluesKaj> than
[14:33] <Thecaptain2000> because muon sucks, you try to look, ofr example for mysql or postgres and you won0t find them
[14:35] <yofel> Thecaptain2000: they show up fine in the package manager
[14:36] <BluesKaj> Thecaptain2000,  i recommend synaptic , it's not kde , but in my book it's the best package manager ..an excellent reference even for those of us who prefer to install via cli
[14:37] <Thecaptain2000> sorry, I just found out there are two muon, the software center and the package manager
[14:37] <Thecaptain2000> and I had used the Software center before
[14:37] <Thecaptain2000> why are there two muon?
[14:38] <Thecaptain2000> ok, the first time I searched on the package manager I did find mysql
[14:38] <Thecaptain2000> not I can'0t find it
[14:38] <Thecaptain2000> anymore
[14:40] <Thecaptain2000> funny enough if you launch the software center then you won't find mysql in the package manager, you close it and re-launch package manager and there it is again
[14:43] <FlashDeluxe> hi! i got a problem, i have a notebook and a second screen plugged in. now if i drag a window (which is on the notebook-monitor in the foreground) onto this second screen it suddenly is in the background
[14:45] <FlashDeluxe> does anybody know this problem?
[14:50] <BluesKaj> I'm having problems with apps not holding their size and position settings, especially ktorrent, has anyone else experienced this ?
[15:16] <dpac> hey, my power usage on default kde session is around 30W but on failsafe its 12-15W. Can anyone explain what does  failsafe disable?
[15:28] <cuznt> samba?
[15:29] <szal> ?
[15:53] <dpac> Is anyone active in here?
[15:54] <Kolia> dpac: such question generally doesn't get any answer
[15:54] <Kolia> if you have a question, just ask :)
[15:54] <ArchangelSe7en> what he said ^^^
[15:55] <dpac> Kolia: I posted a question few hours back, no one replied. So I thought its better to ask before asking.
[15:56] <Kolia> dpac: nah, just ask again after a reasonable delay :)
[15:56] <dpac> Anyways, so I had trouble logging in so I renamed my .kde to .kde2 and logged in. Figured it was a problem with opengl, so disabled opengl in .kde2/share/config/kwinrc. Renamed .kde2 back to .kde
[15:56] <dpac> Now when I login, all my settings are gone
[15:56] <dpac> kopete accounts
[15:56] <dpac> everything :(
[15:57] <ArchangelSe7en> well duh
[15:57] <ArchangelSe7en> :P
[15:58] <ArchangelSe7en> just look for conf files of Kopete and return them to your new .kde folde
[15:58] <ArchangelSe7en> r
[15:59] <ArchangelSe7en> ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/
[15:59] <ArchangelSe7en> is where they should be
[16:01] <dpac> ArchangelSe7en: Thanks.. but any reason where anything went wrong
[16:01] <dpac> ArchangelSe7en: I mean its technically renaming .kde to .kde2 and back .kde
[16:02] <ArchangelSe7en> thought you created a new one , did you launch Kopete when your folder was still named .kde2 ?
[16:09] <dpac> ArchangelSe7en: No.. I've renamed it back to .kde
[16:13] <eamon> I have a problem with Nepomuk crashing can anyone helo?
[16:15] <dpac> eamon: I have that same problem too.. Does it happen on booting?
[16:17] <eamon> Yeah everytime, the message is
[16:17] <eamon> The name org.kde.NepomukStorage was not provided by any .service files
[16:17] <dpac> eamon: Same problem.. couldn't figure out how to fix it..
[16:18] <eamon> I read about deleting the Nepomuk folder in .kde share
[16:18] <eamon> but it didnt work
[16:19] <dpac> ArchangelSe7en: I missed one detail. I logged in failsafe mode after renaming .kde to .kde2. Does that change anything?
[16:19] <eamon> dpac: Is that related to Nepomuk crashing?
[16:20] <ArchangelSe7en> dpac, I dont think so
[16:21] <ArchangelSe7en> I guess you'll have to recreate your accounts
[16:21] <ArchangelSe7en> brb
[16:49] <k0s> russian chanel
[16:51] <BarkingFish> k0s: You need a channel in russian?
[16:51] <BarkingFish> obviously not
[16:51] <BarkingFish> :P
[16:51] <szal> heheh
[16:52] <BarkingFish> some people... you could give them 2 brain cells and they couldn't rub them together and start a fire :)
[16:52]  * BarkingFish sighs and goes back to fixing his iPAQ
[16:54] <jmichaelx> amarok 2.4.3 seems to be crashing a lot
[16:54] <jmichaelx> :-(
[16:55] <jmichaelx> :/me hates it when amarok crashes a lot
[16:55] <jmichaelx> oops
[16:56] <szal> a lot of stuff seems to crash a lot in Oneiric..  Konversation does, the newest Flash player does..
[16:56] <jmichaelx> yes, konversation is crashing a lot, too
[16:56] <jmichaelx> i am always wishing for a stable kubuntu, but in my opinion, there never has been one
[16:57] <jmichaelx> although some have been much less crashy than some others
[16:59] <cousin_luigi> hello
[17:00] <cousin_luigi> What is the recommended place to set the KDEWM variable?
[17:19] <koch> Hi
[17:19] <koch> i NEED HELP
[17:21] <rork> hi, what do you need help with?
[17:22] <koch> u know how delete "lock" on kubuntu??
[17:28] <koch> ??/
[17:32] <szal> what 'lock'?
[17:34] <koch> i cant run 2 donwload
[17:35] <Pici> !details
[17:36] <koch> ok
[17:38] <koch> i cant download 2 files. because the files #lock# stop it
[17:38] <Pici> Do you get an error message?
[17:39] <Pici> Do you mean you're tryin to download something from some website?
[17:41] <koch> yes
[17:42] <koch> error messenge said about '/var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[17:43] <hhirsch> .
[17:43] <koch> ist compliqued
[17:44] <szal> lol..  you don't run 2 instances of the pkg manager; if you want to install more than 1 package, just select everything you want to install, and it will be downloaded one after another (or, if your bandwidth permits, you'll get 2 downloads concurrently)
[17:44] <szal> !ar
[17:44] <szal> dang
[17:45] <koch> szal> what dang?
[17:45] <szal> koch: nothing of interest to you ;)
[17:45] <koch> ok
[17:46] <koch> I need a application like 'download manager'
[17:47] <szal> no, you don't, at least not for package management
[17:48] <koch> eurk....
[17:48] <koch> I dnt like use kget
[17:49] <BarkingFish> koch- are you trying to download packages to install on Kubuntu?
[17:49] <koch> yes
[17:50] <BarkingFish> right, we have programs for that already, koch.
[17:50] <koch> ok
[17:50] <BarkingFish> There are programs like apper, synaptic and muon which are intended for package installations.
[17:51] <BarkingFish> You can also install programs over your command line or through a terminal, using  sudo apt-get install   followed by the name of the program you want
[17:51] <koch> okay..
[17:52] <BarkingFish> so do you have any of those programs already installed?  They'll be in your [K] menu under System if you have.
[17:53] <koch> limited
[17:54] <BarkingFish> what do you mean, limited? You only have one of them?
[17:55] <koch> yep
[17:55] <BarkingFish> ok, so which one do you have please?
[17:58] <BarkingFish> koch, you still with me?
[17:58] <koch> yess
[17:59] <koch> :p
[17:59] <BarkingFish> ok, so which one of the programs I mentioned do you have in your menu please?
[17:59] <koch> u know how boot a connxion??
[17:59] <koch> wait
[18:00] <szal> !arabic | koch, probably helpful
[18:01] <koch> i use kubuntu 11.4,... I dnt have another application
[18:02] <koch> just dafault program
[18:02] <BarkingFish> koch - if you're on Kubuntu 11.04, you probably have a program called kpackagekit
[18:02] <koch> szal> ur are arab?/
[18:02] <szal> koch: no
[18:02] <koch> barkingFish>>> wait
[18:04] <koch> yes I have
[18:04] <BarkingFish> ok
[18:05] <BarkingFish> right, well if you open kpackagekit, you should be able to download all your programs through there.  You may need to get some sources for your software, I don't know if they are already set up.
[18:05] <koch> I have a program kpackagekit
[18:05] <BarkingFish> And unfortunately, I don't have the time to help you do that.
[18:05] <koch> ok
[18:06] <BarkingFish> koch: if you press ALT + F2, and type kpackagekit (or click it in the menu) you'll get the program up and you can go from there.
[18:06] <koch> ok
[18:08] <BarkingFish> ok then, I have to go for a while, to get some food and some rest. I will be back in maybe two hours.
[18:08] <koch> ok
[18:08] <koch> no problem
[18:21] <adarshajoisa> the task manager in the panel contains an empty slot sometimes. When a window is open, it's not aligned to the left, but some space is left as if an invisible window is open. is that a bug with the task manager?
[18:23] <lethu> adarshajoisa, got the same bug
[18:23] <lethu> but as to if it's a known bug, I don't know yet
[18:24] <lethu> adarshajoisa, it helps to close all the windows of the active desktop, then reopen them again
[18:25] <adarshajoisa> lethu: nope, that doesn't work for me. when i open a window after closing everything, the space is still there.
[18:27] <lethu> adarshajoisa, have you tried switching to another desktop then switching back and trying again?
[18:27] <lethu> adarshajoisa, it generally works for me
[18:27] <adarshajoisa> tried that too. doesn't work. it works only if i restart plasma desktop
[18:30] <lethu> adarshajoisa, it's a known bug
[18:30] <lethu> adarshajoisa, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8FA1yGM0gA
[18:33] <adarshajoisa> lethu: ok.. let's hope someone fixes it soon. :)
[18:33] <lethu> adarshajoisa, yup
[18:33]  * lethu crosses fingers
[18:34] <adarshajoisa> lethu: :) removing the task manager and adding a new one to the panel also works, btw
[18:35] <lethu> adarshajoisa, good to know
[18:36] <lethu> adarshajoisa, you can also do $ killall plasma-desktop &&﻿ plasma-desktop
[18:37] <adarshajoisa> lethu: cool! i didn't know the command to restart plasma. I used to logout n login again. :P
[18:38] <lethu> adarshajoisa, ;)
[19:19] <Lynoure> Hmm, just realized I don't seem to be able to turn off my bluetooth in Kubuntu on my HP dv6
[19:19] <Lynoure> the option is there, but it does not stick.
[19:21] <cousin_luigi> Where can I set the KDEWM variable to have compiz instead of kwin?
[19:22] <Lynoure> So widget -> Turn off bluetooth   does nothing on my system, neither does widget -> Configure bluetooth -> Adapters -> Powered  (uncheck)
[19:24] <Lynoure> Does it work for others?
[20:03] <koch> anyone speak french??
[20:03] <PasNox> oui.
[20:03] <PasNox> Hi all
[20:04] <PasNox> can anyone here can give me the user id and group id for mysql server / service ?
[20:04] <koch> thnx pasnox..i nedd ur help
[20:06] <PasNox> just expose your problem. someone will try to help
[20:06] <yofel> PasNox: from my servers passwd file:
[20:06] <yofel> mysql:x:118:129:MySQL Server,,,:/var/lib/mysql:/bin/false
[20:07] <PasNox> yofel: strange , i just checked mine, it say 113 / 123 xD
[20:07] <koch> comment faire pour avoir la totaliter de ma connection
[20:07] <PasNox> but i assume it's not really important ?
[20:08] <yofel> shouldn't be, unless you have old files from another system that you might need to chown
[20:08] <PasNox> koch: first write without mistakesin words, then speak uk, it's an english channel here.
[20:08] <koch> ok
[20:08] <PasNox> if u want french, go #kubuntu-fr
[20:08] <koch> thanks,
[20:13] <koch> anyone use lubuntu??
[20:13] <Pici> koch: The folks in #lubuntu do :)
[20:15] <koch> thanks Pici
[20:26] <MeanderingCode> why is my task manager making two rows when i've set it to one, allowing only one item per "column", but each item is half-height??
[20:26] <MeanderingCode> more importantly, how do i remedy this situation? :)
[21:35] <AndroidLoverInSF> why is it that when i add a kde menu item manually via the editor, i save it. it doesnt show up in the menu, nor the editor, then i include "hidden" items, and i see it, but my menu item is NOT hidden (unchecked). how to have it show up in the menu launcher?
[21:35] <AndroidLoverInSF> i'm on 11.10 kde
[21:36] <AndroidLoverInSF> do i need to logout and back in?
[21:36] <Wizard> I don't think so
[21:36] <Wizard> have you checked your menu entry manually?
[21:37] <AndroidLoverInSF> yes
[21:37] <Wizard> so, is group set up properly?
[21:37] <AndroidLoverInSF> its there under my Internet group
[21:38] <AndroidLoverInSF> have name, no desc, nor commetn. put the command 'java -jar /home/me/.jdownloader/JDownloader.jar', the check boxes are unchecked
[21:39] <AndroidLoverInSF> i saved it. it said updating system config
[21:39] <yofel> sounds like kde bug 283579
[21:39] <AndroidLoverInSF> then when i go back into the editor, its not there, until i include "hidden" apps. either way it doesnt show up either. why such a mainstream bug? anytime someone adds a menu item?
[21:40] <AndroidLoverInSF> seems like a pretty important bug, not a weird use case
[21:42] <AndroidLoverInSF> ubottu: yes seems like that same bug
[21:43] <martin__> heh
[21:43] <Resistance> !botsnack
[21:44] <Resistance> good bot :P
[21:55] <AndroidLoverInSF> such a glaring bug!
[22:19] <phoenix_firebrd> how can i disable the tooltip message shown  for the taskbar entries
[22:20] <phoenix_firebrd> for taskmanager entries
[22:34] <lethu> phoenix_firebrd, >task manager settings
[22:34] <lethu> phoenix_firebrd, then uncheck "show tooltips"
[22:35] <phoenix_firebrd> lethu: it worked, thank you
[22:35] <lethu> phoenix_firebrd, yw
[22:37] <MeanderingCode> any thoughts on why my task manager is making two rows when i've set it to one, allowing only one item per "column", but each item is half-height??
[22:39] <lethu> MeanderingCode, try $ killall plasma-desktop &&﻿ plasma-desktop
[22:39] <lethu> MeanderingCode, if that doesn't work try resizing the task bar a bit
[22:39] <MeanderingCode> lethu: this is persistant across many reboots :(
[22:39] <lethu> MeanderingCode, try resizing it then
[22:40] <MeanderingCode> no luck
[22:40] <MeanderingCode> it doesn't always happen
[22:43] <lethu> MeanderingCode, have you tried reverting to default settings?
[22:44] <lethu> MeanderingCode, you could also reset kde settings, I don't know which part of the .kde folder is responsible of the taskbar
[22:44] <lethu> tho
[22:45] <MeanderingCode> the setting isn't changing...it always has the value "1" for max rows...i am pretty leery of resetting kde, lots of customization
[22:45] <MeanderingCode> well, enough to take too much time
[22:46] <MeanderingCode> but i could try removing the task manager and adding it again
[22:46] <lethu> MeanderingCode, removing the task manager then making a new one is known to fix some issues
[22:47] <MeanderingCode> just did so...it's good right now, i'll find out if it starts happening again
[22:47] <MeanderingCode> thx
[22:57] <lethu> MeanderingCode, yw
[23:32] <welandB> I'm trying to install a package that requires gcc (or cc or cl) and can't seem to get KPackageKit to install it.
[23:32] <welandB> It's saying check my network connection.
[23:41] <mohammadetakie> Is there room in Arabic? Please
[23:45] <szal> !arabic | mohammadetakie
[23:47] <mohammadetakie> Thank you very much
[23:50] <mohammadetakie> Hello calcmandan
[23:50] <calcmandan> Hello
[23:51] <mohammadetakie> How the case?
[23:51] <calcmandan> Case?
[23:51] <mohammadetakie> From any country are you from?
[23:52] <mohammadetakie> Health
[23:52] <calcmandan> Oh, I am good. And you?
[23:53] <mohammadetakie> I use the programs for you to translate Sorry
[23:53] <mohammadetakie> I'm fine and thank God
[23:53] <mohammadetakie> From any country you are?
[23:54] <calcmandan> I am in the USA
[23:55] <mohammadetakie> You are from America?
[23:55] <calcmandan> Yes california.
[23:56] <mohammadetakie> USA =  America
[23:56] <mohammadetakie> I am from Syria
[23:57] <mohammadetakie> How is Uncle Obama? Hahaha
[23:59] <mohammadetakie> How health with Obama? Hahaha
[23:59] <calcmandan> Obama... Not so good.