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holsteinnhr: you can include lspci00:00
nhrok, it's going to be painful to copy from desktop, but it says it has detected gforce 7100 / nforce 630i00:02
asterismodoes anybody noticed a problem with browsing files in nautilus (oneiric ocelot) by pressing letter keys to select the first file with that letter?00:03
holsteinasterismo: i havent tried.. what is your findings? you find a bug report?00:04
asterismothen pressing backspace goes back a folder level instead of deleting the written stuff00:05
asterismoyes00:05
asterismoi already reported00:05
asterismoi just wanted to know if i'm the only one00:05
holsteinasterismo: i dont have unity in front of me right now, but next time i do, i will try it00:06
asterismohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/88452800:10
ubot2Launchpad bug 884528 in nautilus "odd nautilus beahavior when browsing files by pressing letter keys" [Undecided,New]00:10
holsteinasterismo: thanks, i'll make a note of the URL00:11
asterismoand other think i noticed was the slow logout/restart/shutdown that occurs with unity. Not for LXDE for example. It takes a while to close all apps, and the desktop remains a while... but it has been reported.00:13
asterismoif somebody see cprofitt, tell him that the broadcom wireless problem (it was not detected by oneiric ocelot) it finally was a hardware problem, the pci card was bad plugged. i oopened the laptop and fixed it.broadcom detecion is just fine00:15
nhrholstein: started the thread on forums - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1141672800:17
holsteinnhr: cool.. just as long as you know you'll need to be proactive... unless someone comes along with that graphics card and says 'hey, let me tell you..'00:20
nhrGoing to try my luck on #ubuntu again :) Thanks for the help00:20
holsteinsure... as long as you know, its the graphics card00:20
holsteinthats the issue... you can sit around in there for a long time and come right back around to that...00:21
nhrI am not really sure about that part. But who knows00:21
nhrIf it's card, why did it worked for so long and why suddenlly started failing now00:21
holsteinnhr: well, thats what im telling you00:22
holsteinthe driver00:22
holsteinthe kernel00:22
nhrYes00:22
holsteinthat *is* the issue00:22
holsteini would bet some money on it00:22
holsteinim 98% sure00:22
nhrAnd you will get some money :) I think you are right. Something got screwed up in last update00:23
holsteinbut, again, its your time... im just trying to save you some time, and point you in the direction i would go trouble shooting00:23
nhrok00:23
holsteinnhr: i didnt give up ;)00:27
holsteinanyways.. you still havent actually told me what hardware you have00:27
nhrNeither have I00:27
holsteinif you want, open a terminal, or tty, whatever you have and type00:27
holsteinlspci00:27
holsteinthen, you'll see something nvidia there00:27
nhrlet me ssh to box then I can copy/paste00:27
holsteinor, you can pastebin the whole thing00:28
nhrhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/725892/00:30
holsteinwell, this i mentioning your hardware http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=135674800:35
nhrtaking a look00:35
holsteini would need to be in front of it00:35
holsteini feel confident i would install something on it00:36
holsteini would probably just install 10.04 though... but i would try the alternate 11.10 install, and install the proprietary driver from CLI if necessary00:36
holsteini would boot the live CD like you did and *not* take the updates00:37
holsteinanyways... do what you want... its challening since nvidia is not going to help you, and i dont have the hardware, and canonical cant help you00:37
holsteinso.. that leaves you at trying to notice what upgrade breaks functionality, and filing a bug00:38
holsteinand following up00:38
nhrok, will see what I can do00:40
asterismohi PabloRubianes00:40
PabloRubianeshi asterismo00:40
PabloRubianeswhat are u doing here?00:40
holsteinnhr: that post makes it sound like i gave up, and i didnt... FYI00:40
holsteinthanks for mentioning me though :)00:41
asterismoPabloRubianes > hanging arround, looking for some answers... reporting some bugs00:42
nhrholstein: You did help me - it's only fair00:44
nhrholstein: if you are there, some success at last01:30
holsteincool :)01:30
nhrTurns out had nothing to do with graphics card01:31
nhrBut more like with a tv tuner card01:31
holsteinwell, ive been wrong before01:31
nhrI had it installed last week - but machine worked ok for few days01:31
holsteini should have insisted on the lspci right off01:31
nhrBut then latest upgrade did something. I just removed the card, did another fresh install and it works01:32
holsteinwell, that seems plausible then01:32
nhrSo now I have entertainment of finding right driver for the card01:32
holsteini would still upgrade and see if it breaks01:32
nhryeh, forgot about that part, took your advice and removed network cable. Let me update first01:33
holsteinmake a note of what packages are listed to update01:33
nhrok01:34
holsteini still got money on the graphics card ;)01:34
nhrhttp://pastebin.com/JAYvwV9M01:37
nhrRather lot of packages to update - its updating right now01:38
holsteinnhr: what 1 is not upgraded?01:39
holsteinO I C01:39
holsteinsoftware center.. that shouldnt break anything01:39
holsteinnhr: did you run apt-get update?01:40
nhrYes01:40
holsteini would expect a kernel update, and i would think that that would be what would break things01:40
holsteinbut, you could be right... you'll know here in a bit :)01:40
nhrKeeping my fingers crossed - this is 2nd interesting experince I have with ubuntu upgrades01:41
nhrThe least I can say is it keeps my machine clean :(01:41
holsteineh, i reinstall often...01:42
nhrholstein: Packages updated and it back again01:47
holsteingood :)01:47
nhrMy theory now is it has to do with driver for the card. I followed instructions at http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_Obtain,_Build_and_Install_V4L-DVB_Device_Drivers01:47
nhrand something went bad01:47
holsteinnhr: did you do that this 2nd time though?01:49
nhrNot yet01:49
nhrGoing to try it though01:49
holsteinsure01:49
nhrNow at least I know what's happening01:49
nhrand get back to machine - any way it's clean01:49
nhrholstein: May be I spoke too soon - machine just died on me - just like previous time - forced me to reboot01:52
nhrI mean like yesterday when the whole trouble started. At least I do get gui back this time01:53
holsteinthat could be hardware... i would start testing things01:55
holsteinmake sure the ram is seated, and the graphics card... test the ram, and the hard drive01:55
nhrok01:58
tlmSynaptic Error 75? http://pastebin.com/7ZGJeFWs05:13
stlsainttlm: nginx always +1 IMO05:14
stlsainttlm: then of course postfix is your problem package...can you safely purge it?05:15
tlmstlsaint Should I dlete it or reinstall it>05:15
stlsainttry marking it for reinstall via synaptic05:16
* tlm hates this ergonomic kb...05:16
stlsainttlm: i must head out now. please feel free to continue to ask questions for help from another05:23
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bioterrorm0himan!06:50
M0hibioterror: :P07:13
truepurple I put a DVD movie into my drive, but it isn't showing up(my dvd drive that is), anyone know what might be wrong?\07:31
M0hitruepurple: is it displayed in fdisk -l command ?08:12
M0hiand is it only for a particular disk ? or for all?08:12
truepurpleM0hi, when I type that command, nothing happened but it going to the next line, and I tried a old windows game in there too, and the drive didn't show either08:14
truepurpleBut I did burn a DVD with this drive before08:14
M0hiThats strange. Did you ever read any disc with this driver?08:15
M0hiI mean loaded any dvd before?08:15
truepurpleI think I was able to see the disk that I burned before, but its been awhile since I have used it08:20
truepurpleI know I have had some issues with it before, and even recently08:20
truepurpleLike I tried burning with it earlier and it wasn't doing it,08:21
truepurpleI thought at first it was, but I think it was just creating the image for burning instead08:21
truepurpleM0hi,08:22
M0hiI forgot the command actually to grep the DVD driver. lspci will display. But I am not sure what to grep08:25
truepurpleM0hi, remembered yet?08:32
M0hilshw |grep dvd08:33
M0hitry that08:33
M0hitruepurple: pastebin the output08:34
truepurpleIts doing something, it warns me that I should do it as a "super user"08:35
M0hiadd sudo then08:36
truepurpleM0hi, it still seems to be trying to do something, how do I cancel out?08:41
bioterrortruepurple, ^C08:42
M0hictrl + c08:42
truepurpleNot working it says "^C08:43
truepurple" but it doesn't give me the prompt back08:43
truepurpleM0hi, if I closed that terminal and started another, would that cancel it out?08:44
bioterroryour drive is borked08:44
truepurplehow did you come to that conclusion, bioterror?08:52
bioterrorbecouse another DVD did not work, and now that one is hanging there without being read correctly08:53
bioterroryou can also check in terminal: dmesg08:53
bioterrorand see if it prompts something08:53
bioterrorbut I'm pretty confident with my diagnose ;)08:53
truepurple"you can also check in terminal: dmesg" what does that mean?08:54
bioterror open terminal08:54
bioterrorand type:08:54
bioterrordmesg08:55
bioterror       dmesg - print or control the kernel ring buffer08:55
truepurplebioterror, how do I escape out of the previous command though? Just shut down the terminal and open a new one?08:55
bioterroropen new terminal :D08:56
truepurpleWhat exactly do you want me to type, bioterror?09:00
truepurple"dmesg" then "      dmesg - print or control the kernel ring buffer"? bioterror?09:03
bioterrordont type anything09:07
truepurplebioterror, what do you mean?09:07
truepurpleM0hi, bioterror, anyone here?09:12
bioterrorwhat did that dmesg prompt you?09:12
bioterrordoes the kernel spit out any errors?09:12
truepurpleI asked you what exactly you wanted me to type bioterror, your command suggestion is confusing09:13
truepurple*instructions09:13
bioterrorI wanted you to open terminal09:13
bioterrorand type: dmesg09:13
bioterrordmesg09:13
bioterrorpress then enter09:13
truepurplebtw bioterror, someone else had me type " dmesg | grep sr0"09:14
bioterrorfor sure09:14
truepurpleand I got  dmesg | grep sr009:14
truepurple[    2.194980] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray09:14
truepurple[    2.195104] sr 0:0:1:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr009:14
bioterrorit is found09:15
bioterroryes09:15
bioterrorbut does kernel say anything09:15
truepurpleI don't know what that means09:16
truepurplebioterror, what should I type to see what kernal says?09:16
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truepurpleIAmNotThatGuy, You are M0hi? :p09:44
IAmNotThatGuyIAmNotThatGuy :P09:44
truepurpleMaybe you are that guy?09:47
truepurpleShared PC?09:47
IAmNotThatGuyLOL no :P09:48
truepurpleThen you are M0hi then09:48
truepurpleAnyway, can you help me figure out why I can't see my DVD rom drive?09:49
duanedesignmorning all10:10
truepurplemorning10:10
truepurpleduanedesign, can you help me figure out why I can't get my DVD drive to work with ubuntu, or why it shows two users on my system?10:11
duanedesigntruepurple: what version of Ubuntu?10:12
duanedesigntruepurple: under the 'Me Menu' you see two usernames?10:13
truepurple11.04, classic mode10:13
duanedesignok10:13
truepurpleno, someone said to type "uptime" as a comand, and it said "2 users"10:13
truepurple*command10:13
duanedesigntruepurple: ok, i that is fine10:14
duanedesignwell, at east i get the sane thing10:14
duanedesignleast*10:14
truepurpleWhen I put a DVD movie, or a old windows CD game in, neither shows up, and nautilus doesn't see my DVD drive. Some commands show that ubuntu has some knowledge of the drive being there, but it does not seem properly mounted10:15
truepurpleduanedesign,10:16
duanedesignhmm10:16
duanedesigntruepurple: have you installed the package - ubuntu-restricted-extras10:17
truepurpleI don't know10:17
duanedesignit installs some stuff to make dvd's, mp3, etc work in Ubuntu. Stuff you likely need but can not be installed by default because of liscenses10:17
duanedesigntruepurple: you can search for the package and install it via the software center or you can run this command in a terminal -  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras10:18
truepurplewhy restricted?10:19
truepurpleubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version.10:19
duanedesignok10:19
duanedesigntruepurple: you will also need to install libdvdcss2 package  to play encypted DVD's10:21
duanedesignMost commercial DVDs are encrypted with CSS (the Content Scrambling System)10:21
duanedesigntruepurple: the command is - sudo apt-get install libdvdread410:21
truepurpleHow do I check? But regardless, I still need to have my drive show up first10:21
truepurplelibdvdread4 is already the newest version.10:22
duanedesignok, and you run the script installed by the pakage. sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh10:22
truepurpleYou mean that it is the newest version, doesn't mean it is installed?10:23
duanedesigntruepurple: yes 'already newest version' means it is installed10:24
truepurpleThen what is the script thing about10:25
truepurpleduanedesign, What was that last command you had me run, for?10:26
truepurpleAnyway, it said --2011-11-02 05:23:09--  http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/natty/free/binary-amd64/Packages10:26
truepurpleResolving packages.medibuntu.org... 42.1.14.11, 2a01:e0b:1:127:ca0a:a9ff:fec8:ec1910:26
truepurpleConnecting to packages.medibuntu.org|42.1.14.11|:80... Resolving packages.medibuntu.org... 42.1.14.11, 2a01:e0b:1:127:ca0a:a9ff:fec8:ec1910:26
truepurpleConnecting to packages.medibuntu.org|42.1.14.11|:80... "10:26
truepurpleAnd it has been hanging there for awhile10:26
duanedesigntruepurple: i am not sure exactly what it does. I just know those are the steps for installing the software necessary to play DVD's10:27
duanedesignhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs10:27
duanedesigntruepurple: looks like it is contacting the medibuntu repository and looking for some packages10:27
duanedesignmedibuntu is a safe repository10:27
duanedesigntruepurple: is this a laptop?10:28
truepurpleduanedesign, No, it is a DIY desktop10:28
truepurplewell the screen hasn't changed since then10:29
duanedesigntruepurple: doany disks mount in the drive?10:32
truepurpleI got a USB flash drive mounted right now10:33
truepurpleThough one aspect of the USB flash drive is giving me a weird error10:33
duanedesigntruepurple: do any CD's show up if you put them in your DVD drive?10:35
truepurplethe data part works just fine10:35
truepurple<truepurple> when I click on U3 system, the software for the usb flash drive, it says "Unable to mount U3 System: DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.Failed: An operation is already pending". U3 system is shown as a drive btw, but it is part of the usb flash drive. I mean it is shown as a drive separate from the USB flash drive10:35
truepurpleduanedesign, No, nothing happens, the drive spins up, then eventually down (not sure when it spins down since it is so quiet) a blue light on it shines for like 5-10 seconds, then turns off10:36
duanedesigntruepurple: with a dvd in the drive do you get anything if you rin this command?   for d in cd dvd;do ls -l /dev/dvd|grep -i $d;done10:46
Lorizeanhey guys, I'm having a problem since upgrading to oneiric - my wireless is extremely slow. I found several threads saying it's a bug with the new kernel and the n-channel and some ppl were able to work around it by disabling the n channel12:26
Lorizeanso my question is, how do i disable my n-channel witht he rt2800pci driver (I have a Ralink rt3090)12:26
Lorizeanthe mod doesn't have a 11n_disable command12:27
stlsaintLorizean: what thread you referring to?12:29
Lorizeanhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860826&page=212:31
Lorizeanhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185915112:31
Lorizeanthey refer to different drivers and network cards but i figured its a similar problem and I couldn't find something specific to my card12:32
stlsaintLorizean: are you aware how to use pastebin?12:34
Lorizeanyeah12:35
stlsaintLorizean: would you mind providing the same info that the user posted12:36
stlsaintin a pastebin12:36
Lorizeansure, mom12:36
stlsaintmom?12:36
Lorizeanone moment :)12:37
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Lorizeanslsaint, sorry, took a while, pastebin had a lot of traffic apparently: http://pastebin.com/eewuQR5x12:42
Lorizeanstlsaint*12:42
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truepurpleduanedesign, are you still there?12:47
stlsaintLorizean: and you are unable to use same command from op? what error do you get?12:48
duanedesignhello truepurple12:48
truepurpleyour command causes this "ls: cannot access /dev/dvd: No such file or directory12:49
truepurplels: cannot access /dev/dvd: No such file or directory"12:49
Lorizeanwait, I just did an apt-upgrade, it might be working now if they fixed the n-band bug12:50
truepurpleduanedesign,12:50
Lorizeanyeah, it seems it iws working fine now - sorry about wasting your time12:51
Lorizeannow if somebody could tell me how to change the unity/dash/launcher hotkeys - when I use Super+Space to get gnome do, the dash also opens, kinda annoying12:52
truepurpleSpeaking of unity, is there a way to give unity, gnomes menu tree?12:53
duanedesigntruepurple: running out of ideas on what to try next for your dvd player12:53
truepurpleduanedesign, well what does that outcome mean?12:54
duanedesigntruepurple: well i certainitly am no expert so their is still might be a solution12:55
duanedesigntruepurple:  maybe google the make model name + ubuntu12:55
truepurpleYou had me run that command, with it giving that error of no such file or directory twice, what does that mean duanedesign?12:55
truepurpleor indicate12:56
duanedesignif you look in /dev and can find cd or dvd then you might be able to use the mount command12:56
truepurplethat is a hidden file? How do I see those again?12:57
truepurpleAnyway duanedesign, that does not seem to answer my question12:57
duanedesigntruepurple:  the message you received means that their is no file with that name in the directory13:00
duanedesignso the drive might show up under a different name13:01
duanedesignor might not at all13:01
duanedesignif you can find it you can manually mount it with these instructions:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/726278/13:02
duanedesignLinux has "device files" which represent your cd/dvd. You mount the device file to a mount point (directory) in order to read it.13:03
duanedesignTo find out what device files represent your cd/dvd drives you could look in the /dev/ dir and look for the ones that have links to cd or dvd.13:03
truepurpleduanedesign, where is this dev directory?13:16
philipballew /dev13:18
truepurpleOk I found it, I look for a folder called CD or DVD in it?13:19
truepurpleduanedesign, I don't see folders by the names CD or DVD in the main DEV directory. Could "disk" be it?13:22
truepurpleduanedesign, or could "pktcddvd" be it?13:24
duanedesigntruepurple: the second sounds possible13:56
duanedesigntruepurple: let me see how you can verify13:57
truepurpleduanedesign, there is only one file in there called "control"13:57
truepurplewhere as in disk, I do see something in a sub directory with the name of my DVD drive on it13:58
duanedesigntruepurple: it would not be a folder but a symlink. So for example if I run the command -  ls -la /dev/dvd13:59
duanedesignI get something like -    dvd -> sr013:59
truepurpleI do not understand what your saying at all13:59
duanedesignwhere the file is pointing to the dvd drive13:59
duanedesignif you run the command - ls -la /dev14:00
truepurple/dev/disk/by-id/ata-ASUS_DRW-24B1ST_a_ABD0CL41638314:00
truepurpleAnd the beginning of that sounds like my DVD drive14:01
truepurpleIt is a asus anyway14:01
duanedesigntruepurple: i think that is it14:01
truepurpleduanedesign, OK, so how do I test if it is "it" and if it is "it" what do I do with that now exactly?14:03
duanedesigntruepurple: run the command - ls -la /dev/disk/by-id14:03
truepurpletotal 014:03
truepurpledrwxr-xr-x 2 root root 240 2011-11-02 00:30 .14:03
truepurpledrwxr-xr-x 6 root root 120 2011-11-02 00:30 ..14:03
truepurplelrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 2011-11-02 00:30 ata-ASUS_DRW-24B1ST_a_ABD0CL416383 -> ../../sr014:03
truepurplelrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 2011-11-02 00:30 ata-ST32000542AS_5XW1JM0Q -> ../../sda14:03
truepurplelrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 2011-11-02 00:30 ata-ST32000542AS_5XW1JM0Q-part1 -> ../../sda114:03
truepurplelrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 2011-11-02 00:30 scsi-SATA_ST32000542AS_5XW1JM0Q -> ../../sda14:03
truepurplelrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 2011-11-02 00:30 scsi-SATA_ST32000542AS_5XW1JM0Q-part1 -> ../../sda114:04
truepurplelrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 2011-11-02 00:30 usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_087761058B538D30-0:0 -> ../../sdb14:04
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truepurplelrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 2011-11-02 00:30 usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_087761058B538D30-0:0-part1 -> ../../sdb114:04
truepurplelrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 2011-11-02 00:34 usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_087761058B538D30-0:1 -> ../../sr114:04
truepurplelrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 2011-11-02 00:30 wwn-0x5000c5002aac5ebd -> ../../sda14:04
duanedesignok it is sr014:04
truepurplelrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 2011-11-02 00:30 wwn-0x5000c5002aac5ebd-part1 -> ../../sda114:04
truepurpleduanedesign, is it possible that the flash drive and my DVD drive could be crashing somehow?14:04
duanedesignso  if you run the command   ls -la /dev14:04
truepurpleI meant to say clashing14:04
duanedesigndo you see sr0 anywhere14:04
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truepurplelrwxrwxrwx   1 root root           3 2011-11-02 00:30 cdrom1 -> sr0  lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root           3 2011-11-02 00:34 cdrom -> sr114:05
duanedesigntruepurple: something like - cdrom -> sr014:05
duanedesignok14:05
duanedesignthat is it14:05
duanedesignnow14:05
truepurpleIt also says for sr1 too14:05
duanedesignsr1 should be the usb disk14:06
duanedesigntruepurple: now to mount it manually14:07
duanedesignhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/726337/14:07
duanedesignuse thosse instructions14:07
truepurpleIt said cdrom for the sr1 though14:07
duanedesigntruepurple: i do not know why that is14:07
philinuxduanedesign: Still got no joy with ubuntu one. Lots of these. 2011-11-02 14:06:40,449 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.Main - NOTE - ---- MARK (state: <State: 'QUEUE_MANAGER'  (queues IDLE  connection 'With User With Network')>; queue: 0; hash: 0) ----14:08
duanedesignphilinux: queue is 014:08
duanedesignmeans Ubuntu One sees no more files to sync14:08
philinuxduanedesign: what does that mean?14:08
duanedesignphilinux: Ubuntu One sees no ore files to upload14:09
duanedesignphilinux: are you still thinking files need to be synced?14:09
philinuxduanedesign: The one thats left is my evolution backup tar. It's not ticked its got the syncing icon14:09
duanedesigntruepurple: if you can get the cdrom mounted manually using the instructions you can then add an entry to yur fstab file so it will mount manually14:10
philinuxduanedesign: the log is full of those as above14:10
duanedesignphilinux: try and touch the file14:10
truepurpleduanedesign, ls /media/mycd did nothing but send me to the next prompt, and I was able to eject just fine14:10
duanedesignphilinux: touch ~/Ubuntu\ One/backup.tar14:10
duanedesignor whatever14:10
duanedesigntruepurple: hmm. I am sorry we have gone to the extent of my knowledge14:11
philinuxduanedesign: got a pop up saying its being backep up but zero net activity14:12
duanedesigntruepurple: know that you know the model and make maybe try googling:   ASUS_DRW-24B1ST  ubuntu14:12
duanedesignsure you might find someone else who has had issue14:13
duanedesignI'll brb. Have to go to meeting14:13
truepurpleWell, I already knew the make and model, but ok14:13
philinuxduanedesign: QUEUE_MANAGER'  (queues WORKING  connection 'With User With Network')>; queue: 1; hash: 0) ----14:13
duanedesignphilinux: that is better :)14:16
duanedesignphilinux: i guess better would be your file is synced ;)14:17
truepurpleduanedesign, that didn't work14:17
philinuxduanedesign: still no net activity at all14:52
philinuxduanedesign: you still about?15:36
s-foxpsst duanedesign , say no ;)15:36
philinuxlol15:36
philinuxs-fox: he's either sleeping or mia15:38
duanedesignhello philinux15:39
philinuxduanedesign: I put a small file in UO folder and it synced but the tar file wont and its over 200mg any ideas15:39
duanedesignphilinux: does this still return 1 - u1sdtool --waiting | wc -l15:40
philinuxduanedesign: Yep15:41
duanedesignhmmm15:41
philinuxduanedesign: it just popped up saying evo tar file complete but it hasnt really15:42
duanedesigni wonder if this returns anything    u1sdtool --current-transfers15:42
duanedesignphilinux: ok can yo utry this15:43
duanedesigncat /home/duanedesign/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log | grep ValueError15:43
duanedesignphilinux: i think you are going to get:   ValueError: I/O operation on closed file15:45
philinuxValueError: I/O operation on closed file twice15:45
duanedesignbug #87292415:45
ubot2Launchpad bug 872924 in ubuntuone-client "Resuming a failed upload crashes with ValueError: I/O operation on closed file" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87292415:45
duanedesignphilinux: because of the server disconnects caused by the high traffic loads the last couple days this bug is being triggered15:46
philinuxduanedesign: it will sync small text files though15:46
duanedesignphilinux: right15:46
duanedesignphilinux: it only happens to resumed uploads15:47
philinuxduanedesign: so what do I do then15:47
stlsaintduanedesign: you get bdfhk email?15:47
duanedesignyou have to be disconnected and reconnect while the transfer is happening15:47
duanedesignphilinux: the 2 options are, 1. wait until the server loads go down and you can get a stable connection long enough to sync the file  2. wait until the bug is fixed. the fix is in trunk and should be released soon 3. (i know i said 2 options) try and upload using the uload file option on the website. (though I have a feeling this might not work)15:49
philinuxduanedesign: Went to UO web and clicked upload file and it's doing it15:50
duanedesignphilinux: it uses a different server(s) so that is an option15:50
philinuxduanedesign: Yeah going great guns now15:50
duanedesignrather nasty bug. They are making a lot of noise trying to get the fix released ASAP15:51
duanedesignstlsaint: i probabaly did15:51
stlsaintduanedesign: clicompanion is being reviewed by DD15:52
stlsaintduanedesign: but we still need a release15:52
philinuxduanedesign: do I leave the file in local UO folder too15:52
duanedesignphilinux: at this point you should leave it in. If you take it out it might trigger a delete15:54
stlsaintduanedesign: pm good sir?15:56
stlsaintduanedesign: i think i found my answer but your guidance would still be great16:01
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bobweaverhello there what causes a busybox to happen ? I know hat that is a wide statement but what is it and why do I keep on getting it after installing nvidia driver under jokey17:23
stlsaintbobweaver: possibly a bug17:27
stlsaintbobweaver: what distro you running?17:27
bobweaver11.10 cd from ubuntu17:28
bobweaverreal from ubuntu not me17:28
bobweaverI did not make the cd17:28
stlsaintbobweaver: how are you installing the driver and what driver is it? (specifically)17:28
bobweaversure17:29
bobweavernvida common17:29
bobweaversorry about spelling I am bad at it17:29
* bobweaver is mentel like that 17:29
bobweaver\with speeling17:29
bobweaver lspci -nn | grep VGA17:32
bobweaver02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation C77 [GeForce 8200M G] [10de:0845] (rev a2)17:32
bobweaverI guess one of my questions is is it better to install the driver from nvidia site or from jockey ? this is a nice computer but I can not make any videos of my desktop. gtk record my desk top is the worst  cuts off half the screen xvidcap works allright but I only get 60 to 70% of the video . How to make it so I can get full video recording ?  I have also shut down compiz to see if that helps nope.17:35
stlsaintjockey should work just fine17:36
bobweaverhow to get higher end videos ?17:36
bobweaverI am on other partition right now17:36
bobweaverI have 3 that are ubuntu17:36
bobweaverall 11.1017:36
stlsaintso your concern is the video editing?  are you actually able to use your screen and video fine though?17:37
bobweaversome from upgrades and two I installed myself17:37
bobweaveronly on 2 out of the 3 partitions17:37
bobweaverthe 3rd partition sda 4 wont boot stright to busybox17:37
bobweaversda 1 I am on and all is well but can not record my desktop good17:38
bobweaversda 7 is last ubuntu and mouse will not work on that one17:38
bobweaversda 7 I installed from the cd from ubuntu last night17:39
bobweaverso sda 7 <ubuntu 11.10  live cd from ubuntu mouse will not work17:40
bobweaversda 4 <-- I DL burned then installed worked great untill I activated the driver under jockey and now I get busybox17:41
bobweavercan not mount that one or chroot it17:41
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AbuMaiaI am having trouble with the Unity launcher bar not following compiz settings. When I force it with either compiz --replace or unity --replace, I get this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8725574/Screenshot%20at%202011-11-02%2013%3A00%3A54.png19:44
nlsthznAbuMaia, hmmm... looks like the bar is there twice19:48
holsteinAbuMaia: what are you trying to accomplish?19:49
AbuMaianlsthzn: Exactly.19:49
holsteinmaybe we can get there some other way19:49
AbuMaiaholstein: I'm trying to get Unity to follow the settings set in Compiz19:50
holsteinsure, care to elaborate?19:50
holsteinwhat particular settings seem to break it19:50
holstein?19:50
holsteinwhy are you needing to use --replace ?19:50
nlsthznUnity and some settings used in ccsm doesn't seem to play nice I have seen19:52
AbuMaiaWhen I reboot, the Wall doesn't work at all. The only way I have found to force the settings to work is to use --replace19:52
holsteinyeah, messed with it for a minute, and saw that it wasnt going to play nice, and gave up19:52
bobweaverso get this I have been losing network and my phone for say 12hr gaps. I looked at everything on my end and it is not me . So I call ISP a bunch of times finaly they tell mne that when it rains that one of the switches is getting wet and causing my net and phone to drop. so I guess that there is nothing that I can do about this but get a new isp. or wait till it rains and call them and have them find the leaky switch what a pain. I had19:52
bobweaverto share this with some one .19:52
bobweaverwhat sould I do ?19:53
AbuMaiabobweaver: or call them over and go out and dump water on it19:53
bobweaverlol19:53
holsteinAbuMaia: i would be interested in knowing this... if you make another user account and login, is everying normal looking/acting?19:53
bobweaverit is not the one that is connected to the house somewhere along the way to the isp19:53
bobweaverI tried that :>)19:53
bobweaverwith garden hose19:54
holsteinbobweaver: ive been round and round with my ISP before19:54
holsteinjust keep calling19:54
holsteinits a drag19:54
bobweaverthanks holstein19:54
bobweaverand AbuMaia19:54
bobweavergood news is they keep lowering my bill19:55
holsteinnot bad!19:55
bobweaverlast one was $12.,00 usd19:55
nlsthznlower bill with lower up-time ... wins some loose some19:56
bobweaverso I guess the saying when it rains it pours has a who;e new meaning :>)19:56
stlsaintbdfhjk: please pm me your full name and email address i gotta edit the copyright to reflect19:56
stlsaintopps19:56
bobweavercopyleft copyleft :>)19:57
bobweaverare there still "get your money back from windows day "  or whatever it is called if so what is the date for that ?20:01
holsteini dont think so20:01
angela-androidme neither20:02
AbuMaiaholstein: Figured it out finally. I had been accidentally logging in under Ubuntu2D instead of 3D. Completely my mistake. I apologise for any annoyance.21:37
holsteinAbuMaia: nah... glad you figured it out21:37
holsteini was pulling my hair out last week trying to start compiz using the vesa driver ;)21:37
AbuMaiaInteresting bug, though, being able to launch unity 3d on top of 2d21:38
eyadofhi all21:43
eyadofi have a question : when i press shutdown from the menu my ubuntu make a logout instead21:44
eyadofsomeone know why ? and how to fix it ?21:45
holsteineyadof: there should be a setting for that in the power settings21:45
holstein11.10?21:45
holsteinunity?21:45
eyadofyes21:45
eyadofwhere can i find this settings ?21:45
holsteinnot sure where things are in there, but you should see something when you type the word 'power'21:45
eyadofno thing just 'power off'21:46
eyadofi try that before21:46
eyadofi don't find any thing .21:47
holsteineyadof: ?21:47
holsteintry whay? finding the power settings?21:47
eyadofyes21:47
holsteinyou dont see power settings?21:47
eyadofthere is a power setting for suspend and hibernate only21:48
holsteinim going to have to install something with unity so i can answer these questions21:48
holsteineyadof: OH21:48
holsteinso you see the power settings21:48
holsteinand when you go there, you see21:48
holstein'when i press the power button, do this..'21:48
holsteinand the options are?21:48
eyadofthat isn't here21:48
holsteinhow about ask?21:48
holsteini use ask21:48
holsteini like 'ask'21:49
holsteini want it to ask me21:49
holsteinis that there?21:49
holsteineyadof: what isnt where21:49
holsteintake a screen shot21:49
holsteinor elaborat21:49
holsteine21:49
eyadofi think you don't understand what i mean by shutdown21:50
holsteinyup21:50
holsteinthats what im saing21:50
holsteinsaying*21:50
eyadofi don't mean the power button on my laptop21:50
holsteinshutdown, means, shutdown21:50
holsteinlike the power shuts down21:50
holsteinwhat do you mean?21:50
holsteineyadof: OH21:50
eyadofi mean shutdown from the menu21:50
holsteini think i get it21:50
holsteini dont know where those are in unity21:51
holsteini would just add some widgets and see what does what21:51
eyadofwhat is this widget ?21:51
holsteinmaybe http://askubuntu.com/questions/58941/shutdown-menu-missing-from-unity-indicators21:51
holsteinor http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/easyshutdown-and-complexshutdown-two-small-apps-for-one-job/21:52
holsteineyadof: i dont know21:52
holsteini just remember adding them all in gnome21:52
holsteinand seeing what did what21:52
holsteineyadof: also, wait around and a unity user might come along :)21:53
eyadofok21:53
eyadofi reinstall the indicator-session21:53
eyadofi will try this21:53
bobweaverhello there everybody ! I am having some real big troubles with recording mydesktop. it looks horrible after I record using gtk record my desktop   Xvidcap only captures about 60 to 70% so that will also not work. ny suggestions ?     https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+question/161322   <-- old and did not help      http://paste.ubuntu.com/726780/     <--- more info   here is a video to get  a look at what I am talkin22:33
bobweaverg about  http://www.mediafire.com/?45r9oyaxk148xpj22:33
holsteinbobweaver: everyone should have a dropbox :)22:36
holsteinhttp://holstein.shacknet.nu/dropbox/22:36
holsteinbobweaver: do me a favor22:37
holsteinlogout and try it in unity2d22:37
fosburgwhere do I get a scanner ICM profile?  I have a UMAX  PowerLook  scanner  operating off XSane Image scanner application.22:37
holsteinfosburg: is that a 'driver' ?22:38
holsteinits not 'just working?'22:38
bobweaverholstein,  thabnks22:39
fosburgI think it is a scanner driver?22:39
holsteinfosburg: have you tried just using it?22:40
fosburgYes, everything works the preview looks great but the scan is bad.22:41
holsteinelaborate...22:42
holsteinmess with the settings, and file type too22:42
holsteinfor the preview to look good, it makes me think its something in the rendering, or saving process22:42
fosburgI get an error message that says 'could not open scanner ICM profile'22:43
bobweaverholstein,  no help22:43
bobweaverwith unity 2d22:43
bobweaverbut22:43
bobweaverffmpeg is working good22:43
bobweavernot good quality thou22:43
bobweaverffmpeg -f x11grab -s $(xwininfo -root | awk '/geometry/ {print $2}') -i :0.0 -b 800k -y output.avi22:43
fosburgPreference  setup--looking for ICM profile22:44
bobweavernow to see if I can get some tutorials rolling :>)22:45
bobweaverholstein, thanks again :>)22:45
holsteinbobweaver: interesting...22:48
bobweaverbut now ..... no mic :>(22:50
holsteinfosburg: is there a box... enable color management?22:50
holsteincan you 'uncheck' that box and try again?22:50
holsteinbobweaver: :/22:50
holsteinyou can edit something together easy enough22:50
holsteinrecord my desktop has always just worked for me22:50
holsteinthat is a drag22:50
holsteinits easy22:50
holsteinhmmm22:51
fosburgno--it's all software22:51
holsteinyeah, in the software22:52
holsteinhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1078287.html22:52
holstein^^ im refrencing that22:52
holsteinwhich is probably an earlier version of xsane or whatever it is now22:52
fosburgIn the XSane setup there is a box with a browse button asking for a '.icm'22:54
holsteinfosburg: where are you?22:58
holsteinnear north carolina?22:58
holsteini got a scanner... you can have it ;)22:58
holsteini see them all the time for like 5 bucks22:58
fosburgI'm in Pennsylvania22:58
holsteinhttp://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=5945&start=40 seems relavant22:58
fosburgnear Harrisburg22:59
holsteinhttp://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1595663&group_id=2252&atid=10225223:00
fosburgThis UMAX is old but a good quality scanner23:00
ubot2holstein: Error: <Bugtracker.plugin.Sourceforge instance at 0xa3237ac> bug 1595663 not found23:00
fosburgused it with a MAC for graphic design23:00
holsteinsure... its just that sometimes its easier just to move on23:01
holsteinhardware wise23:01
holsteini mean, im not saying it wont work23:01
holsteinim just saying, id have to be in front of it23:01
holsteinand its not going to be easy23:01
holsteinand i literally have to move scanners out of the way around here to clear a path to the door ;)23:02
fosburgI'm sure moving on is a good thing23:03
holsteineh, if you like it, you like it.. and it *should* work23:03
holsteinbut sometimes its just easier to let go23:03
fosburgI wish I know more about computers--thats my problem23:04
holsteinive gotten rid of all my problematic hardware finally :)23:04
holsteinall my non-linux friendly hardware23:04
holsteinfosburg: this is a great place to start learning23:04
fosburgI have come far--but in away it's nicer to have a MAC and not have to do anything except use the applications23:06
fosburgbeing retired--I can't afford that any more23:06
holsteineh, i prefer linux personally23:07
holsteini mean, if you had linux certified hardware, and a small pool of linux friendly software, you wouldnt have to do anything except use it23:07
fosburgI'm learning to appreciate the OS23:08
fosburgI still enjoy graphic art and things do have to be done different in linux23:10
holsteinsure23:11
holsteinand when i get on OSX, things need to be done differently there23:12
fosburgwhat's your profession?23:13
holsteinfosburg: i play bass23:13
holsteinhttp://holstein.bandcamp.com/23:14
holsteinhttp://www.mikeholstein.info/2011/07/living-solo-bass-made-with-ubuntu.html23:14
holsteinand you?23:14
fosburggraphic designer--retired23:15
holsteinfosburg: if you are instested in helping out a bit, testing and whatever23:16
holsteinjoin us over at #ubuntustudio-devel23:16
holsteinwe have *no* graphics folks23:17
holsteinreally just being present and testing and stating opinions from that perspective would help a lot23:17
fosburgLet me give that some thought23:18
holsteinbobweaver: ping23:36
holsteinthe guy i asked about gtk-recordmydesktop just responded23:37
bobweaveroh hey23:37
holsteinhe used ffmeg, and ardour fo the audi23:37
holsteino23:37
holsteinyou could use audacity23:37
holsteinor qarecord23:37
bobweaverholstein,  thanks !!!23:55
bobweaverI will try now23:55
holsteinmy friend just edited them together later23:57

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