[00:00] <holstein> nhr: you can include lspci
[00:02] <nhr> ok, it's going to be painful to copy from desktop, but it says it has detected gforce 7100 / nforce 630i
[00:03] <asterismo> does anybody noticed a problem with browsing files in nautilus (oneiric ocelot) by pressing letter keys to select the first file with that letter?
[00:04] <holstein> asterismo: i havent tried.. what is your findings? you find a bug report?
[00:05] <asterismo> then pressing backspace goes back a folder level instead of deleting the written stuff
[00:05] <asterismo> yes
[00:05] <asterismo> i already reported
[00:05] <asterismo> i just wanted to know if i'm the only one
[00:06] <holstein> asterismo: i dont have unity in front of me right now, but next time i do, i will try it
[00:10] <asterismo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/884528
[00:10] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 884528 in nautilus "odd nautilus beahavior when browsing files by pressing letter keys" [Undecided,New]
[00:11] <holstein> asterismo: thanks, i'll make a note of the URL
[00:13] <asterismo> and other think i noticed was the slow logout/restart/shutdown that occurs with unity. Not for LXDE for example. It takes a while to close all apps, and the desktop remains a while... but it has been reported.
[00:15] <asterismo> if somebody see cprofitt, tell him that the broadcom wireless problem (it was not detected by oneiric ocelot) it finally was a hardware problem, the pci card was bad plugged. i oopened the laptop and fixed it.broadcom detecion is just fine
[00:17] <nhr> holstein: started the thread on forums - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11416728
[00:20] <holstein> nhr: cool.. just as long as you know you'll need to be proactive... unless someone comes along with that graphics card and says 'hey, let me tell you..'
[00:20] <nhr> Going to try my luck on #ubuntu again :) Thanks for the help
[00:20] <holstein> sure... as long as you know, its the graphics card
[00:21] <holstein> thats the issue... you can sit around in there for a long time and come right back around to that...
[00:21] <nhr> I am not really sure about that part. But who knows
[00:21] <nhr> If it's card, why did it worked for so long and why suddenlly started failing now
[00:22] <holstein> nhr: well, thats what im telling you
[00:22] <holstein> the driver
[00:22] <holstein> the kernel
[00:22] <nhr> Yes
[00:22] <holstein> that *is* the issue
[00:22] <holstein> i would bet some money on it
[00:22] <holstein> im 98% sure
[00:23] <nhr> And you will get some money :) I think you are right. Something got screwed up in last update
[00:23] <holstein> but, again, its your time... im just trying to save you some time, and point you in the direction i would go trouble shooting
[00:23] <nhr> ok
[00:27] <holstein> nhr: i didnt give up ;)
[00:27] <holstein> anyways.. you still havent actually told me what hardware you have
[00:27] <nhr> Neither have I
[00:27] <holstein> if you want, open a terminal, or tty, whatever you have and type
[00:27] <holstein> lspci
[00:27] <holstein> then, you'll see something nvidia there
[00:27] <nhr> let me ssh to box then I can copy/paste
[00:28] <holstein> or, you can pastebin the whole thing
[00:30] <nhr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/725892/
[00:35] <holstein> well, this i mentioning your hardware http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1356748
[00:35] <nhr> taking a look
[00:35] <holstein> i would need to be in front of it
[00:36] <holstein> i feel confident i would install something on it
[00:36] <holstein> i would probably just install 10.04 though... but i would try the alternate 11.10 install, and install the proprietary driver from CLI if necessary
[00:37] <holstein> i would boot the live CD like you did and *not* take the updates
[00:37] <holstein> anyways... do what you want... its challening since nvidia is not going to help you, and i dont have the hardware, and canonical cant help you
[00:38] <holstein> so.. that leaves you at trying to notice what upgrade breaks functionality, and filing a bug
[00:38] <holstein> and following up
[00:40] <nhr> ok, will see what I can do
[00:40] <asterismo> hi PabloRubianes
[00:40] <PabloRubianes> hi asterismo
[00:40] <PabloRubianes> what are u doing here?
[00:40] <holstein> nhr: that post makes it sound like i gave up, and i didnt... FYI
[00:41] <holstein> thanks for mentioning me though :)
[00:42] <asterismo> PabloRubianes > hanging arround, looking for some answers... reporting some bugs
[00:44] <nhr> holstein: You did help me - it's only fair
[01:30] <nhr> holstein: if you are there, some success at last
[01:30] <holstein> cool :)
[01:31] <nhr> Turns out had nothing to do with graphics card
[01:31] <nhr> But more like with a tv tuner card
[01:31] <holstein> well, ive been wrong before
[01:31] <nhr> I had it installed last week - but machine worked ok for few days
[01:31] <holstein> i should have insisted on the lspci right off
[01:32] <nhr> But then latest upgrade did something. I just removed the card, did another fresh install and it works
[01:32] <holstein> well, that seems plausible then
[01:32] <nhr> So now I have entertainment of finding right driver for the card
[01:32] <holstein> i would still upgrade and see if it breaks
[01:33] <nhr> yeh, forgot about that part, took your advice and removed network cable. Let me update first
[01:33] <holstein> make a note of what packages are listed to update
[01:34] <nhr> ok
[01:34] <holstein> i still got money on the graphics card ;)
[01:37] <nhr> http://pastebin.com/JAYvwV9M
[01:38] <nhr> Rather lot of packages to update - its updating right now
[01:39] <holstein> nhr: what 1 is not upgraded?
[01:39] <holstein> O I C
[01:39] <holstein> software center.. that shouldnt break anything
[01:40] <holstein> nhr: did you run apt-get update?
[01:40] <nhr> Yes
[01:40] <holstein> i would expect a kernel update, and i would think that that would be what would break things
[01:40] <holstein> but, you could be right... you'll know here in a bit :)
[01:41] <nhr> Keeping my fingers crossed - this is 2nd interesting experince I have with ubuntu upgrades
[01:41] <nhr> The least I can say is it keeps my machine clean :(
[01:42] <holstein> eh, i reinstall often...
[01:47] <nhr> holstein: Packages updated and it back again
[01:47] <holstein> good :)
[01:47] <nhr> My theory now is it has to do with driver for the card. I followed instructions at http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_Obtain,_Build_and_Install_V4L-DVB_Device_Drivers
[01:47] <nhr> and something went bad
[01:49] <holstein> nhr: did you do that this 2nd time though?
[01:49] <nhr> Not yet
[01:49] <nhr> Going to try it though
[01:49] <holstein> sure
[01:49] <nhr> Now at least I know what's happening
[01:49] <nhr> and get back to machine - any way it's clean
[01:52] <nhr> holstein: May be I spoke too soon - machine just died on me - just like previous time - forced me to reboot
[01:53] <nhr> I mean like yesterday when the whole trouble started. At least I do get gui back this time
[01:55] <holstein> that could be hardware... i would start testing things
[01:55] <holstein> make sure the ram is seated, and the graphics card... test the ram, and the hard drive
[01:58] <nhr> ok
[05:13] <tlm> Synaptic Error 75? http://pastebin.com/7ZGJeFWs
[05:14] <stlsaint> tlm: nginx always +1 IMO
[05:15] <stlsaint> tlm: then of course postfix is your problem package...can you safely purge it?
[05:15] <tlm> stlsaint Should I dlete it or reinstall it>
[05:16] <stlsaint> try marking it for reinstall via synaptic
[05:16]  * tlm hates this ergonomic kb...
[05:23] <stlsaint> tlm: i must head out now. please feel free to continue to ask questions for help from another
[06:50] <bioterror> m0himan!
[07:13] <M0hi> bioterror: :P
[07:31] <truepurple>  I put a DVD movie into my drive, but it isn't showing up(my dvd drive that is), anyone know what might be wrong?\
[08:12] <M0hi> truepurple: is it displayed in fdisk -l command ?
[08:12] <M0hi> and is it only for a particular disk ? or for all?
[08:14] <truepurple> M0hi, when I type that command, nothing happened but it going to the next line, and I tried a old windows game in there too, and the drive didn't show either
[08:14] <truepurple> But I did burn a DVD with this drive before
[08:15] <M0hi> Thats strange. Did you ever read any disc with this driver?
[08:15] <M0hi> I mean loaded any dvd before?
[08:20] <truepurple> I think I was able to see the disk that I burned before, but its been awhile since I have used it
[08:20] <truepurple> I know I have had some issues with it before, and even recently
[08:21] <truepurple> Like I tried burning with it earlier and it wasn't doing it,
[08:21] <truepurple> I thought at first it was, but I think it was just creating the image for burning instead
[08:22] <truepurple> M0hi,
[08:25] <M0hi> I forgot the command actually to grep the DVD driver. lspci will display. But I am not sure what to grep
[08:32] <truepurple> M0hi, remembered yet?
[08:33] <M0hi> lshw |grep dvd
[08:33] <M0hi> try that
[08:34] <M0hi> truepurple: pastebin the output
[08:35] <truepurple> Its doing something, it warns me that I should do it as a "super user"
[08:36] <M0hi> add sudo then
[08:41] <truepurple> M0hi, it still seems to be trying to do something, how do I cancel out?
[08:42] <bioterror> truepurple, ^C
[08:42] <M0hi> ctrl + c
[08:43] <truepurple> Not working it says "^C
[08:43] <truepurple> " but it doesn't give me the prompt back
[08:44] <truepurple> M0hi, if I closed that terminal and started another, would that cancel it out?
[08:44] <bioterror> your drive is borked
[08:52] <truepurple> how did you come to that conclusion, bioterror?
[08:53] <bioterror> becouse another DVD did not work, and now that one is hanging there without being read correctly
[08:53] <bioterror> you can also check in terminal: dmesg
[08:53] <bioterror> and see if it prompts something
[08:53] <bioterror> but I'm pretty confident with my diagnose ;)
[08:54] <truepurple> "you can also check in terminal: dmesg" what does that mean?
[08:54] <bioterror>  open terminal
[08:54] <bioterror> and type:
[08:55] <bioterror> dmesg
[08:55] <bioterror>        dmesg - print or control the kernel ring buffer
[08:55] <truepurple> bioterror, how do I escape out of the previous command though? Just shut down the terminal and open a new one?
[08:56] <bioterror> open new terminal :D
[09:00] <truepurple> What exactly do you want me to type, bioterror?
[09:03] <truepurple> "dmesg" then "      dmesg - print or control the kernel ring buffer"? bioterror?
[09:07] <bioterror> dont type anything
[09:07] <truepurple> bioterror, what do you mean?
[09:12] <truepurple> M0hi, bioterror, anyone here?
[09:12] <bioterror> what did that dmesg prompt you?
[09:12] <bioterror> does the kernel spit out any errors?
[09:13] <truepurple> I asked you what exactly you wanted me to type bioterror, your command suggestion is confusing
[09:13] <truepurple> *instructions
[09:13] <bioterror> I wanted you to open terminal
[09:13] <bioterror> and type: dmesg
[09:13] <bioterror> dmesg
[09:13] <bioterror> press then enter
[09:14] <truepurple> btw bioterror, someone else had me type " dmesg | grep sr0"
[09:14] <bioterror> for sure
[09:14] <truepurple> and I got  dmesg | grep sr0
[09:14] <truepurple> [    2.194980] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[09:14] <truepurple> [    2.195104] sr 0:0:1:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0
[09:15] <bioterror> it is found
[09:15] <bioterror> yes
[09:15] <bioterror> but does kernel say anything
[09:16] <truepurple> I don't know what that means
[09:16] <truepurple> bioterror, what should I type to see what kernal says?
[09:44] <truepurple> IAmNotThatGuy, You are M0hi? :p
[09:44] <IAmNotThatGuy> IAmNotThatGuy :P
[09:47] <truepurple> Maybe you are that guy?
[09:47] <truepurple> Shared PC?
[09:48] <IAmNotThatGuy> LOL no :P
[09:48] <truepurple> Then you are M0hi then
[09:49] <truepurple> Anyway, can you help me figure out why I can't see my DVD rom drive?
[10:10] <duanedesign> morning all
[10:10] <truepurple> morning
[10:11] <truepurple> duanedesign, can you help me figure out why I can't get my DVD drive to work with ubuntu, or why it shows two users on my system?
[10:12] <duanedesign> truepurple: what version of Ubuntu?
[10:13] <duanedesign> truepurple: under the 'Me Menu' you see two usernames?
[10:13] <truepurple> 11.04, classic mode
[10:13] <duanedesign> ok
[10:13] <truepurple> no, someone said to type "uptime" as a comand, and it said "2 users"
[10:13] <truepurple> *command
[10:14] <duanedesign> truepurple: ok, i that is fine
[10:14] <duanedesign> well, at east i get the sane thing
[10:14] <duanedesign> least*
[10:15] <truepurple> When I put a DVD movie, or a old windows CD game in, neither shows up, and nautilus doesn't see my DVD drive. Some commands show that ubuntu has some knowledge of the drive being there, but it does not seem properly mounted
[10:16] <truepurple> duanedesign,
[10:16] <duanedesign> hmm
[10:17] <duanedesign> truepurple: have you installed the package - ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:17] <truepurple> I don't know
[10:17] <duanedesign> it installs some stuff to make dvd's, mp3, etc work in Ubuntu. Stuff you likely need but can not be installed by default because of liscenses
[10:18] <duanedesign> truepurple: you can search for the package and install it via the software center or you can run this command in a terminal -  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:19] <truepurple> why restricted?
[10:19] <truepurple> ubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version.
[10:19] <duanedesign> ok
[10:21] <duanedesign> truepurple: you will also need to install libdvdcss2 package  to play encypted DVD's
[10:21] <duanedesign> Most commercial DVDs are encrypted with CSS (the Content Scrambling System)
[10:21] <duanedesign> truepurple: the command is - sudo apt-get install libdvdread4
[10:21] <truepurple> How do I check? But regardless, I still need to have my drive show up first
[10:22] <truepurple> libdvdread4 is already the newest version.
[10:22] <duanedesign> ok, and you run the script installed by the pakage. sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[10:23] <truepurple> You mean that it is the newest version, doesn't mean it is installed?
[10:24] <duanedesign> truepurple: yes 'already newest version' means it is installed
[10:25] <truepurple> Then what is the script thing about
[10:26] <truepurple> duanedesign, What was that last command you had me run, for?
[10:26] <truepurple> Anyway, it said --2011-11-02 05:23:09--  http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/natty/free/binary-amd64/Packages
[10:26] <truepurple> Resolving packages.medibuntu.org... 42.1.14.11, 2a01:e0b:1:127:ca0a:a9ff:fec8:ec19
[10:26] <truepurple> Connecting to packages.medibuntu.org|42.1.14.11|:80... Resolving packages.medibuntu.org... 42.1.14.11, 2a01:e0b:1:127:ca0a:a9ff:fec8:ec19
[10:26] <truepurple> Connecting to packages.medibuntu.org|42.1.14.11|:80... "
[10:26] <truepurple> And it has been hanging there for awhile
[10:27] <duanedesign> truepurple: i am not sure exactly what it does. I just know those are the steps for installing the software necessary to play DVD's
[10:27] <duanedesign> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[10:27] <duanedesign> truepurple: looks like it is contacting the medibuntu repository and looking for some packages
[10:27] <duanedesign> medibuntu is a safe repository
[10:28] <duanedesign> truepurple: is this a laptop?
[10:28] <truepurple> duanedesign, No, it is a DIY desktop
[10:29] <truepurple> well the screen hasn't changed since then
[10:32] <duanedesign> truepurple: doany disks mount in the drive?
[10:33] <truepurple> I got a USB flash drive mounted right now
[10:33] <truepurple> Though one aspect of the USB flash drive is giving me a weird error
[10:35] <duanedesign> truepurple: do any CD's show up if you put them in your DVD drive?
[10:35] <truepurple> the data part works just fine
 when I click on U3 system, the software for the usb flash drive, it says "Unable to mount U3 System: DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.Failed: An operation is already pending". U3 system is shown as a drive btw, but it is part of the usb flash drive. I mean it is shown as a drive separate from the USB flash drive
[10:36] <truepurple> duanedesign, No, nothing happens, the drive spins up, then eventually down (not sure when it spins down since it is so quiet) a blue light on it shines for like 5-10 seconds, then turns off
[10:46] <duanedesign> truepurple: with a dvd in the drive do you get anything if you rin this command?   for d in cd dvd;do ls -l /dev/dvd|grep -i $d;done
[12:26] <Lorizean> hey guys, I'm having a problem since upgrading to oneiric - my wireless is extremely slow. I found several threads saying it's a bug with the new kernel and the n-channel and some ppl were able to work around it by disabling the n channel
[12:26] <Lorizean> so my question is, how do i disable my n-channel witht he rt2800pci driver (I have a Ralink rt3090)
[12:27] <Lorizean> the mod doesn't have a 11n_disable command
[12:29] <stlsaint> Lorizean: what thread you referring to?
[12:31] <Lorizean> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860826&page=2
[12:31] <Lorizean> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859151
[12:32] <Lorizean> they refer to different drivers and network cards but i figured its a similar problem and I couldn't find something specific to my card
[12:34] <stlsaint> Lorizean: are you aware how to use pastebin?
[12:35] <Lorizean> yeah
[12:36] <stlsaint> Lorizean: would you mind providing the same info that the user posted
[12:36] <stlsaint> in a pastebin
[12:36] <Lorizean> sure, mom
[12:36] <stlsaint> mom?
[12:37] <Lorizean> one moment :)
[12:42] <Lorizean> slsaint, sorry, took a while, pastebin had a lot of traffic apparently: http://pastebin.com/eewuQR5x
[12:42] <Lorizean> stlsaint*
[12:47] <truepurple> duanedesign, are you still there?
[12:48] <stlsaint> Lorizean: and you are unable to use same command from op? what error do you get?
[12:48] <duanedesign> hello truepurple
[12:49] <truepurple> your command causes this "ls: cannot access /dev/dvd: No such file or directory
[12:49] <truepurple> ls: cannot access /dev/dvd: No such file or directory"
[12:50] <Lorizean> wait, I just did an apt-upgrade, it might be working now if they fixed the n-band bug
[12:50] <truepurple> duanedesign,
[12:51] <Lorizean> yeah, it seems it iws working fine now - sorry about wasting your time
[12:52] <Lorizean> now if somebody could tell me how to change the unity/dash/launcher hotkeys - when I use Super+Space to get gnome do, the dash also opens, kinda annoying
[12:53] <truepurple> Speaking of unity, is there a way to give unity, gnomes menu tree?
[12:53] <duanedesign> truepurple: running out of ideas on what to try next for your dvd player
[12:54] <truepurple> duanedesign, well what does that outcome mean?
[12:55] <duanedesign> truepurple: well i certainitly am no expert so their is still might be a solution
[12:55] <duanedesign> truepurple:  maybe google the make model name + ubuntu
[12:55] <truepurple> You had me run that command, with it giving that error of no such file or directory twice, what does that mean duanedesign?
[12:56] <truepurple> or indicate
[12:56] <duanedesign> if you look in /dev and can find cd or dvd then you might be able to use the mount command
[12:57] <truepurple> that is a hidden file? How do I see those again?
[12:57] <truepurple> Anyway duanedesign, that does not seem to answer my question
[13:00] <duanedesign> truepurple:  the message you received means that their is no file with that name in the directory
[13:01] <duanedesign> so the drive might show up under a different name
[13:01] <duanedesign> or might not at all
[13:02] <duanedesign> if you can find it you can manually mount it with these instructions:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/726278/
[13:03] <duanedesign> Linux has "device files" which represent your cd/dvd. You mount the device file to a mount point (directory) in order to read it.
[13:03] <duanedesign> To find out what device files represent your cd/dvd drives you could look in the /dev/ dir and look for the ones that have links to cd or dvd.
[13:16] <truepurple> duanedesign, where is this dev directory?
[13:18] <philipballew>  /dev
[13:19] <truepurple> Ok I found it, I look for a folder called CD or DVD in it?
[13:22] <truepurple> duanedesign, I don't see folders by the names CD or DVD in the main DEV directory. Could "disk" be it?
[13:24] <truepurple> duanedesign, or could "pktcddvd" be it?
[13:56] <duanedesign> truepurple: the second sounds possible
[13:57] <duanedesign> truepurple: let me see how you can verify
[13:57] <truepurple> duanedesign, there is only one file in there called "control"
[13:58] <truepurple> where as in disk, I do see something in a sub directory with the name of my DVD drive on it
[13:59] <duanedesign> truepurple: it would not be a folder but a symlink. So for example if I run the command -  ls -la /dev/dvd
[13:59] <duanedesign> I get something like -    dvd -> sr0
[13:59] <truepurple> I do not understand what your saying at all
[13:59] <duanedesign> where the file is pointing to the dvd drive
[14:00] <duanedesign> if you run the command - ls -la /dev
[14:00] <truepurple> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ASUS_DRW-24B1ST_a_ABD0CL416383
[14:01] <truepurple> And the beginning of that sounds like my DVD drive
[14:01] <truepurple> It is a asus anyway
[14:01] <duanedesign> truepurple: i think that is it
[14:03] <truepurple> duanedesign, OK, so how do I test if it is "it" and if it is "it" what do I do with that now exactly?
[14:03] <duanedesign> truepurple: run the command - ls -la /dev/disk/by-id
[14:03] <truepurple> total 0
[14:03] <truepurple> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 240 2011-11-02 00:30 .
[14:03] <truepurple> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 120 2011-11-02 00:30 ..
[14:03] <truepurple> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 2011-11-02 00:30 ata-ASUS_DRW-24B1ST_a_ABD0CL416383 -> ../../sr0
[14:03] <truepurple> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 2011-11-02 00:30 ata-ST32000542AS_5XW1JM0Q -> ../../sda
[14:03] <truepurple> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 2011-11-02 00:30 ata-ST32000542AS_5XW1JM0Q-part1 -> ../../sda1
[14:03] <truepurple> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 2011-11-02 00:30 scsi-SATA_ST32000542AS_5XW1JM0Q -> ../../sda
[14:04] <truepurple> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 2011-11-02 00:30 scsi-SATA_ST32000542AS_5XW1JM0Q-part1 -> ../../sda1
[14:04] <truepurple> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 2011-11-02 00:30 usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_087761058B538D30-0:0 -> ../../sdb
[14:04] <truepurple> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 2011-11-02 00:30 usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_087761058B538D30-0:0-part1 -> ../../sdb1
[14:04] <truepurple> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 2011-11-02 00:34 usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_087761058B538D30-0:1 -> ../../sr1
[14:04] <truepurple> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 2011-11-02 00:30 wwn-0x5000c5002aac5ebd -> ../../sda
[14:04] <duanedesign> ok it is sr0
[14:04] <truepurple> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 2011-11-02 00:30 wwn-0x5000c5002aac5ebd-part1 -> ../../sda1
[14:04] <truepurple> duanedesign, is it possible that the flash drive and my DVD drive could be crashing somehow?
[14:04] <duanedesign> so  if you run the command   ls -la /dev
[14:04] <truepurple> I meant to say clashing
[14:04] <duanedesign> do you see sr0 anywhere
[14:05] <truepurple> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root           3 2011-11-02 00:30 cdrom1 -> sr0  lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root           3 2011-11-02 00:34 cdrom -> sr1
[14:05] <duanedesign> truepurple: something like - cdrom -> sr0
[14:05] <duanedesign> ok
[14:05] <duanedesign> that is it
[14:05] <duanedesign> now
[14:05] <truepurple> It also says for sr1 too
[14:06] <duanedesign> sr1 should be the usb disk
[14:07] <duanedesign> truepurple: now to mount it manually
[14:07] <duanedesign> http://paste.ubuntu.com/726337/
[14:07] <duanedesign> use thosse instructions
[14:07] <truepurple> It said cdrom for the sr1 though
[14:07] <duanedesign> truepurple: i do not know why that is
[14:08] <philinux> duanedesign: Still got no joy with ubuntu one. Lots of these. 2011-11-02 14:06:40,449 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.Main - NOTE - ---- MARK (state: <State: 'QUEUE_MANAGER'  (queues IDLE  connection 'With User With Network')>; queue: 0; hash: 0) ----
[14:08] <duanedesign> philinux: queue is 0
[14:08] <duanedesign> means Ubuntu One sees no more files to sync
[14:08] <philinux> duanedesign: what does that mean?
[14:09] <duanedesign> philinux: Ubuntu One sees no ore files to upload
[14:09] <duanedesign> philinux: are you still thinking files need to be synced?
[14:09] <philinux> duanedesign: The one thats left is my evolution backup tar. It's not ticked its got the syncing icon
[14:10] <duanedesign> truepurple: if you can get the cdrom mounted manually using the instructions you can then add an entry to yur fstab file so it will mount manually
[14:10] <philinux> duanedesign: the log is full of those as above
[14:10] <duanedesign> philinux: try and touch the file
[14:10] <truepurple> duanedesign, ls /media/mycd did nothing but send me to the next prompt, and I was able to eject just fine
[14:10] <duanedesign> philinux: touch ~/Ubuntu\ One/backup.tar
[14:10] <duanedesign> or whatever
[14:11] <duanedesign> truepurple: hmm. I am sorry we have gone to the extent of my knowledge
[14:12] <philinux> duanedesign: got a pop up saying its being backep up but zero net activity
[14:12] <duanedesign> truepurple: know that you know the model and make maybe try googling:   ASUS_DRW-24B1ST  ubuntu
[14:13] <duanedesign> sure you might find someone else who has had issue
[14:13] <duanedesign> I'll brb. Have to go to meeting
[14:13] <truepurple> Well, I already knew the make and model, but ok
[14:13] <philinux> duanedesign: QUEUE_MANAGER'  (queues WORKING  connection 'With User With Network')>; queue: 1; hash: 0) ----
[14:16] <duanedesign> philinux: that is better :)
[14:17] <duanedesign> philinux: i guess better would be your file is synced ;)
[14:17] <truepurple> duanedesign, that didn't work
[14:52] <philinux> duanedesign: still no net activity at all
[15:36] <philinux> duanedesign: you still about?
[15:36] <s-fox> psst duanedesign , say no ;)
[15:36] <philinux> lol
[15:38] <philinux> s-fox: he's either sleeping or mia
[15:39] <duanedesign> hello philinux
[15:39] <philinux> duanedesign: I put a small file in UO folder and it synced but the tar file wont and its over 200mg any ideas
[15:40] <duanedesign> philinux: does this still return 1 - u1sdtool --waiting | wc -l
[15:41] <philinux> duanedesign: Yep
[15:41] <duanedesign> hmmm
[15:42] <philinux> duanedesign: it just popped up saying evo tar file complete but it hasnt really
[15:42] <duanedesign> i wonder if this returns anything    u1sdtool --current-transfers
[15:43] <duanedesign> philinux: ok can yo utry this
[15:43] <duanedesign> cat /home/duanedesign/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log | grep ValueError
[15:45] <duanedesign> philinux: i think you are going to get:   ValueError: I/O operation on closed file
[15:45] <philinux> ValueError: I/O operation on closed file twice
[15:45] <duanedesign> bug #872924
[15:45] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 872924 in ubuntuone-client "Resuming a failed upload crashes with ValueError: I/O operation on closed file" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872924
[15:46] <duanedesign> philinux: because of the server disconnects caused by the high traffic loads the last couple days this bug is being triggered
[15:46] <philinux> duanedesign: it will sync small text files though
[15:46] <duanedesign> philinux: right
[15:47] <duanedesign> philinux: it only happens to resumed uploads
[15:47] <philinux> duanedesign: so what do I do then
[15:47] <stlsaint> duanedesign: you get bdfhk email?
[15:47] <duanedesign> you have to be disconnected and reconnect while the transfer is happening
[15:49] <duanedesign> philinux: the 2 options are, 1. wait until the server loads go down and you can get a stable connection long enough to sync the file  2. wait until the bug is fixed. the fix is in trunk and should be released soon 3. (i know i said 2 options) try and upload using the uload file option on the website. (though I have a feeling this might not work)
[15:50] <philinux> duanedesign: Went to UO web and clicked upload file and it's doing it
[15:50] <duanedesign> philinux: it uses a different server(s) so that is an option
[15:50] <philinux> duanedesign: Yeah going great guns now
[15:51] <duanedesign> rather nasty bug. They are making a lot of noise trying to get the fix released ASAP
[15:51] <duanedesign> stlsaint: i probabaly did
[15:52] <stlsaint> duanedesign: clicompanion is being reviewed by DD
[15:52] <stlsaint> duanedesign: but we still need a release
[15:52] <philinux> duanedesign: do I leave the file in local UO folder too
[15:54] <duanedesign> philinux: at this point you should leave it in. If you take it out it might trigger a delete
[15:56] <stlsaint> duanedesign: pm good sir?
[16:01] <stlsaint> duanedesign: i think i found my answer but your guidance would still be great
[17:23] <bobweaver> hello there what causes a busybox to happen ? I know hat that is a wide statement but what is it and why do I keep on getting it after installing nvidia driver under jokey
[17:27] <stlsaint> bobweaver: possibly a bug
[17:27] <stlsaint> bobweaver: what distro you running?
[17:28] <bobweaver> 11.10 cd from ubuntu
[17:28] <bobweaver> real from ubuntu not me
[17:28] <bobweaver> I did not make the cd
[17:28] <stlsaint> bobweaver: how are you installing the driver and what driver is it? (specifically)
[17:29] <bobweaver> sure
[17:29] <bobweaver> nvida common
[17:29] <bobweaver> sorry about spelling I am bad at it
[17:29]  * bobweaver is mentel like that 
[17:29] <bobweaver> \with speeling
[17:32] <bobweaver>  lspci -nn | grep VGA
[17:32] <bobweaver> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation C77 [GeForce 8200M G] [10de:0845] (rev a2)
[17:35] <bobweaver> I guess one of my questions is is it better to install the driver from nvidia site or from jockey ? this is a nice computer but I can not make any videos of my desktop. gtk record my desk top is the worst  cuts off half the screen xvidcap works allright but I only get 60 to 70% of the video . How to make it so I can get full video recording ?  I have also shut down compiz to see if that helps nope.
[17:36] <stlsaint> jockey should work just fine
[17:36] <bobweaver> how to get higher end videos ?
[17:36] <bobweaver> I am on other partition right now
[17:36] <bobweaver> I have 3 that are ubuntu
[17:36] <bobweaver> all 11.10
[17:37] <stlsaint> so your concern is the video editing?  are you actually able to use your screen and video fine though?
[17:37] <bobweaver> some from upgrades and two I installed myself
[17:37] <bobweaver> only on 2 out of the 3 partitions
[17:37] <bobweaver> the 3rd partition sda 4 wont boot stright to busybox
[17:38] <bobweaver> sda 1 I am on and all is well but can not record my desktop good
[17:38] <bobweaver> sda 7 is last ubuntu and mouse will not work on that one
[17:39] <bobweaver> sda 7 I installed from the cd from ubuntu last night
[17:40] <bobweaver> so sda 7 <ubuntu 11.10  live cd from ubuntu mouse will not work
[17:41] <bobweaver> sda 4 <-- I DL burned then installed worked great untill I activated the driver under jockey and now I get busybox
[17:41] <bobweaver> can not mount that one or chroot it
[19:44] <AbuMaia> I am having trouble with the Unity launcher bar not following compiz settings. When I force it with either compiz --replace or unity --replace, I get this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8725574/Screenshot%20at%202011-11-02%2013%3A00%3A54.png
[19:48] <nlsthzn> AbuMaia, hmmm... looks like the bar is there twice
[19:49] <holstein> AbuMaia: what are you trying to accomplish?
[19:49] <AbuMaia> nlsthzn: Exactly.
[19:49] <holstein> maybe we can get there some other way
[19:50] <AbuMaia> holstein: I'm trying to get Unity to follow the settings set in Compiz
[19:50] <holstein> sure, care to elaborate?
[19:50] <holstein> what particular settings seem to break it
[19:50] <holstein> ?
[19:50] <holstein> why are you needing to use --replace ?
[19:52] <nlsthzn> Unity and some settings used in ccsm doesn't seem to play nice I have seen
[19:52] <AbuMaia> When I reboot, the Wall doesn't work at all. The only way I have found to force the settings to work is to use --replace
[19:52] <holstein> yeah, messed with it for a minute, and saw that it wasnt going to play nice, and gave up
[19:52] <bobweaver> so get this I have been losing network and my phone for say 12hr gaps. I looked at everything on my end and it is not me . So I call ISP a bunch of times finaly they tell mne that when it rains that one of the switches is getting wet and causing my net and phone to drop. so I guess that there is nothing that I can do about this but get a new isp. or wait till it rains and call them and have them find the leaky switch what a pain. I had
[19:52] <bobweaver> to share this with some one .
[19:53] <bobweaver> what sould I do ?
[19:53] <AbuMaia> bobweaver: or call them over and go out and dump water on it
[19:53] <bobweaver> lol
[19:53] <holstein> AbuMaia: i would be interested in knowing this... if you make another user account and login, is everying normal looking/acting?
[19:53] <bobweaver> it is not the one that is connected to the house somewhere along the way to the isp
[19:53] <bobweaver> I tried that :>)
[19:54] <bobweaver> with garden hose
[19:54] <holstein> bobweaver: ive been round and round with my ISP before
[19:54] <holstein> just keep calling
[19:54] <holstein> its a drag
[19:54] <bobweaver> thanks holstein
[19:54] <bobweaver> and AbuMaia
[19:55] <bobweaver> good news is they keep lowering my bill
[19:55] <holstein> not bad!
[19:55] <bobweaver> last one was $12.,00 usd
[19:56] <nlsthzn> lower bill with lower up-time ... wins some loose some
[19:56] <bobweaver> so I guess the saying when it rains it pours has a who;e new meaning :>)
[19:56] <stlsaint> bdfhjk: please pm me your full name and email address i gotta edit the copyright to reflect
[19:56] <stlsaint> opps
[19:57] <bobweaver> copyleft copyleft :>)
[20:01] <bobweaver> are there still "get your money back from windows day "  or whatever it is called if so what is the date for that ?
[20:01] <holstein> i dont think so
[20:02] <angela-android> me neither
[21:37] <AbuMaia> holstein: Figured it out finally. I had been accidentally logging in under Ubuntu2D instead of 3D. Completely my mistake. I apologise for any annoyance.
[21:37] <holstein> AbuMaia: nah... glad you figured it out
[21:37] <holstein> i was pulling my hair out last week trying to start compiz using the vesa driver ;)
[21:38] <AbuMaia> Interesting bug, though, being able to launch unity 3d on top of 2d
[21:43] <eyadof> hi all
[21:44] <eyadof> i have a question : when i press shutdown from the menu my ubuntu make a logout instead
[21:45] <eyadof> someone know why ? and how to fix it ?
[21:45] <holstein> eyadof: there should be a setting for that in the power settings
[21:45] <holstein> 11.10?
[21:45] <holstein> unity?
[21:45] <eyadof> yes
[21:45] <eyadof> where can i find this settings ?
[21:45] <holstein> not sure where things are in there, but you should see something when you type the word 'power'
[21:46] <eyadof> no thing just 'power off'
[21:46] <eyadof> i try that before
[21:47] <eyadof> i don't find any thing .
[21:47] <holstein> eyadof: ?
[21:47] <holstein> try whay? finding the power settings?
[21:47] <eyadof> yes
[21:47] <holstein> you dont see power settings?
[21:48] <eyadof> there is a power setting for suspend and hibernate only
[21:48] <holstein> im going to have to install something with unity so i can answer these questions
[21:48] <holstein> eyadof: OH
[21:48] <holstein> so you see the power settings
[21:48] <holstein> and when you go there, you see
[21:48] <holstein> 'when i press the power button, do this..'
[21:48] <holstein> and the options are?
[21:48] <eyadof> that isn't here
[21:48] <holstein> how about ask?
[21:48] <holstein> i use ask
[21:49] <holstein> i like 'ask'
[21:49] <holstein> i want it to ask me
[21:49] <holstein> is that there?
[21:49] <holstein> eyadof: what isnt where
[21:49] <holstein> take a screen shot
[21:49] <holstein> or elaborat
[21:49] <holstein> e
[21:50] <eyadof> i think you don't understand what i mean by shutdown
[21:50] <holstein> yup
[21:50] <holstein> thats what im saing
[21:50] <holstein> saying*
[21:50] <eyadof> i don't mean the power button on my laptop
[21:50] <holstein> shutdown, means, shutdown
[21:50] <holstein> like the power shuts down
[21:50] <holstein> what do you mean?
[21:50] <holstein> eyadof: OH
[21:50] <eyadof> i mean shutdown from the menu
[21:50] <holstein> i think i get it
[21:51] <holstein> i dont know where those are in unity
[21:51] <holstein> i would just add some widgets and see what does what
[21:51] <eyadof> what is this widget ?
[21:51] <holstein> maybe http://askubuntu.com/questions/58941/shutdown-menu-missing-from-unity-indicators
[21:52] <holstein> or http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/easyshutdown-and-complexshutdown-two-small-apps-for-one-job/
[21:52] <holstein> eyadof: i dont know
[21:52] <holstein> i just remember adding them all in gnome
[21:52] <holstein> and seeing what did what
[21:53] <holstein> eyadof: also, wait around and a unity user might come along :)
[21:53] <eyadof> ok
[21:53] <eyadof> i reinstall the indicator-session
[21:53] <eyadof> i will try this
[22:33] <bobweaver> hello there everybody ! I am having some real big troubles with recording mydesktop. it looks horrible after I record using gtk record my desktop   Xvidcap only captures about 60 to 70% so that will also not work. ny suggestions ?     https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+question/161322   <-- old and did not help      http://paste.ubuntu.com/726780/     <--- more info   here is a video to get  a look at what I am talkin
[22:33] <bobweaver> g about  http://www.mediafire.com/?45r9oyaxk148xpj
[22:36] <holstein> bobweaver: everyone should have a dropbox :)
[22:36] <holstein> http://holstein.shacknet.nu/dropbox/
[22:37] <holstein> bobweaver: do me a favor
[22:37] <holstein> logout and try it in unity2d
[22:37] <fosburg> where do I get a scanner ICM profile?  I have a UMAX  PowerLook  scanner  operating off XSane Image scanner application.
[22:38] <holstein> fosburg: is that a 'driver' ?
[22:38] <holstein> its not 'just working?'
[22:39] <bobweaver> holstein,  thabnks
[22:39] <fosburg> I think it is a scanner driver?
[22:40] <holstein> fosburg: have you tried just using it?
[22:41] <fosburg> Yes, everything works the preview looks great but the scan is bad.
[22:42] <holstein> elaborate...
[22:42] <holstein> mess with the settings, and file type too
[22:42] <holstein> for the preview to look good, it makes me think its something in the rendering, or saving process
[22:43] <fosburg> I get an error message that says 'could not open scanner ICM profile'
[22:43] <bobweaver> holstein,  no help
[22:43] <bobweaver> with unity 2d
[22:43] <bobweaver> but
[22:43] <bobweaver> ffmpeg is working good
[22:43] <bobweaver> not good quality thou
[22:43] <bobweaver> ffmpeg -f x11grab -s $(xwininfo -root | awk '/geometry/ {print $2}') -i :0.0 -b 800k -y output.avi
[22:44] <fosburg> Preference  setup--looking for ICM profile
[22:45] <bobweaver> now to see if I can get some tutorials rolling :>)
[22:45] <bobweaver> holstein, thanks again :>)
[22:48] <holstein> bobweaver: interesting...
[22:50] <bobweaver> but now ..... no mic :>(
[22:50] <holstein> fosburg: is there a box... enable color management?
[22:50] <holstein> can you 'uncheck' that box and try again?
[22:50] <holstein> bobweaver: :/
[22:50] <holstein> you can edit something together easy enough
[22:50] <holstein> record my desktop has always just worked for me
[22:50] <holstein> that is a drag
[22:50] <holstein> its easy
[22:51] <holstein> hmmm
[22:51] <fosburg> no--it's all software
[22:52] <holstein> yeah, in the software
[22:52] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1078287.html
[22:52] <holstein> ^^ im refrencing that
[22:52] <holstein> which is probably an earlier version of xsane or whatever it is now
[22:54] <fosburg> In the XSane setup there is a box with a browse button asking for a '.icm'
[22:58] <holstein> fosburg: where are you?
[22:58] <holstein> near north carolina?
[22:58] <holstein> i got a scanner... you can have it ;)
[22:58] <holstein> i see them all the time for like 5 bucks
[22:58] <fosburg> I'm in Pennsylvania
[22:58] <holstein> http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=5945&start=40 seems relavant
[22:59] <fosburg> near Harrisburg
[23:00] <holstein> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1595663&group_id=2252&atid=102252
[23:00] <fosburg> This UMAX is old but a good quality scanner
[23:00] <ubot2> holstein: Error: <Bugtracker.plugin.Sourceforge instance at 0xa3237ac> bug 1595663 not found
[23:00] <fosburg> used it with a MAC for graphic design
[23:01] <holstein> sure... its just that sometimes its easier just to move on
[23:01] <holstein> hardware wise
[23:01] <holstein> i mean, im not saying it wont work
[23:01] <holstein> im just saying, id have to be in front of it
[23:01] <holstein> and its not going to be easy
[23:02] <holstein> and i literally have to move scanners out of the way around here to clear a path to the door ;)
[23:03] <fosburg> I'm sure moving on is a good thing
[23:03] <holstein> eh, if you like it, you like it.. and it *should* work
[23:03] <holstein> but sometimes its just easier to let go
[23:04] <fosburg> I wish I know more about computers--thats my problem
[23:04] <holstein> ive gotten rid of all my problematic hardware finally :)
[23:04] <holstein> all my non-linux friendly hardware
[23:04] <holstein> fosburg: this is a great place to start learning
[23:06] <fosburg> I have come far--but in away it's nicer to have a MAC and not have to do anything except use the applications
[23:06] <fosburg> being retired--I can't afford that any more
[23:07] <holstein> eh, i prefer linux personally
[23:07] <holstein> i mean, if you had linux certified hardware, and a small pool of linux friendly software, you wouldnt have to do anything except use it
[23:08] <fosburg> I'm learning to appreciate the OS
[23:10] <fosburg> I still enjoy graphic art and things do have to be done different in linux
[23:11] <holstein> sure
[23:12] <holstein> and when i get on OSX, things need to be done differently there
[23:13] <fosburg> what's your profession?
[23:13] <holstein> fosburg: i play bass
[23:14] <holstein> http://holstein.bandcamp.com/
[23:14] <holstein> http://www.mikeholstein.info/2011/07/living-solo-bass-made-with-ubuntu.html
[23:14] <holstein> and you?
[23:15] <fosburg> graphic designer--retired
[23:16] <holstein> fosburg: if you are instested in helping out a bit, testing and whatever
[23:16] <holstein> join us over at #ubuntustudio-devel
[23:17] <holstein> we have *no* graphics folks
[23:17] <holstein> really just being present and testing and stating opinions from that perspective would help a lot
[23:18] <fosburg> Let me give that some thought
[23:36] <holstein> bobweaver: ping
[23:37] <holstein> the guy i asked about gtk-recordmydesktop just responded
[23:37] <bobweaver> oh hey
[23:37] <holstein> he used ffmeg, and ardour fo the audi
[23:37] <holstein> o
[23:37] <holstein> you could use audacity
[23:37] <holstein> or qarecord
[23:55] <bobweaver> holstein,  thanks !!!
[23:55] <bobweaver> I will try now
[23:57] <holstein> my friend just edited them together later