[07:39] <jussi> AlanBell: Im aware of that. trying to figure out whats wrong with the bot (learning most from scratch as ts2 isnt around and he wrote the stuff)
[08:33] <AlanBell> cool
[08:51] <pangolin> AlanBell: How do I add UbuntuIrcCouncil as founder to a channel?
[08:52] <jussi> pangolin: see /msg
[08:53] <AlanBell> pangolin: I would ask jussi :)
[08:53] <pangolin> just did thanks
[08:53] <pangolin> hahah
[09:22] <Tm_T> pangolin: did get it solved?
[09:22]  * Tm_T hides
[09:23] <pangolin> I did!
[10:47] <Tm_T> LjL`: also, this would prolly be more suitable channel when services are back
[12:57] <willcooke> Hi folks - I'm heading up the Ubuntu TV discussions and I'd like to get an IRC channel set up complete with a log bot.  I was told you guys can help me.
[13:30] <jussi> willcooke: hi
[13:30] <willcooke> hi!
[13:30] <jussi> willcooke: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/CreatingChannels
[13:31] <willcooke> thanks
[13:31] <willcooke> popey is also investigating this
[13:31] <jussi> willcooke: once the channel is created, email to rt@ubuntu.com to request the logbot
[13:31] <willcooke> jussi, thanks a lot
[13:31] <popey> ☺
[13:31] <jussi> willcooke: you are most welcome
[13:31] <Myrtti> so, the naming
[13:32] <Myrtti> #ubuntu-television? #ubuntu-tv?
[13:32]  * Myrtti tickles popey 
[13:32] <popey> television is a bit 1960's :D
[13:32] <Myrtti> #ubuntu-telly-oy-we-are-british
[13:32] <Myrtti> #ubuntu-doctor-who
[13:33] <Myrtti> no?
[13:33] <Myrtti> harumph
[13:34] <jussi> so, #ubuntu-tv is a loco ?
[13:34]  * jussi is trying to catch up
[13:34] <Myrtti> it isn't, yet
[13:34] <Myrtti> probably
[13:34] <Myrtti> most likely will never be
[13:34] <jussi> whats it the shortenng for?
[13:34] <Myrtti> tuvalu IIRC
[13:34] <popey> ya
[13:35] <popey> be nice not to stomp on some future loco channel
[13:35] <Myrtti> an island nation halfway between australia and hawaii
[13:35] <jussi> SO somewhere Ive never heard of... fun
[13:35] <popey> hence why #ubuntutv is attractive
[13:35] <Myrtti> population of 10000
[13:35] <jussi> popey: #ubuntutv is outside the namespace
[13:35] <Myrtti> 10500 to be more to point
[13:35] <popey> so is #ubuntu+1
[13:36] <popey> as is #ubuntuone
[13:36] <Myrtti> I could argue about latter
[13:36] <Myrtti> it's not strictly and 100% community *ahem* project
[13:36] <Myrtti> I don't know what excuse is used for former
[13:37] <jussi> popey: in anycase we are trying to limit those type of channels where ever possible
[13:38] <jussi> #ubuntu-teevee? :D
[13:38] <Myrtti> #ubuntu-visionradio
[13:39] <Myrtti> #ubuntu-hes
[13:39] <Myrtti> (home entertainment system)
[13:40] <Myrtti> seriously tho
[13:40] <Myrtti> why not television?
[13:41] <jussi> Im of similar mind, why not?
[13:42] <popey> it's just long and antiquated
[13:42] <popey> nobody i know actually calls is a television.
[13:43] <Myrtti> some parts of the world still refer to the device with one or another form of the word
[13:43] <Myrtti> nobody says "TV" when referring to it
[13:45] <Unit193> Really? Well...
[13:45] <Myrtti> to my BF I call it "telly"
[13:45] <Myrtti> to my sister I call it "telkkari"
[13:45] <Myrtti> wonders of language
[13:46] <Unit193> US people call it TV all the time
[13:48] <Myrtti> I was going to say something witty about dem Americans, but nevermind ;-)
[13:48] <popey> so back at the point
[13:49] <popey> the team looking at this stuff calls it 'tv'
[13:49] <popey> whether people in other languages / territories do or not.
[13:52] <jussi> popey: #ubuntu-t.v
[13:55] <popey> still pretty icky
[13:56] <Unit193> #ubuntu-dr-who, what else?
[13:57] <Myrtti> just for the sake of lulz and argument: #ubuntu-red-dwarf
[13:57] <Myrtti> sorry.
[13:57] <Myrtti> I've had too much sugar
[13:58]  * genii-around sips and thinks about #ubuntu-black-adder
[14:07] <Daviey> jussi: There is #ubuntu-$team for every focus area, including -desktop, -server, -arm.  This is no differnet
[14:08] <Daviey> There isn't a -tv loco, is there?
[14:08] <popey> no
[14:09] <Daviey> So what is the problem?
[14:09] <Daviey> Myrtti: fwiw, there could become a requirement for #ubuntu-red-dwarf, which is a Database as as Service project which might become popular.
[14:10] <popey> hah
[14:10] <Daviey> http://www.openstack.org/blog/2011/04/announcing-project-reddwarf-database-as-a-service/
[14:13] <jussi> Daviey: the issue is -tv is a potential loco as Myrtti mentioned before
[14:14] <jussi> [15:34:46] <Myrtti> tuvalu IIRC
[14:14] <jussi> [15:34:49] <popey> ya
[14:14] <jussi> [15:35:21] <popey> be nice not to stomp on some future loco channel
[14:14] <jussi> [15:35:24] <Myrtti> an island nation halfway between australia and hawaii
[14:14] <Myrtti> there probably will never be a loco there, tho
[14:15] <jussi> Perhaps
[14:15] <jussi> Im inclineed to say go use #ubuntu-tv and if a loco springs up in that tiny nation they can use #ubuntu-tuvalu  or so.
[14:16] <jussi> elky: topyli any thoughts?
[14:16] <jussi> (though elky has long gone to be methinks)
[14:16] <k1l_> tuvalu btw sold their .tv topdomain.
[14:16] <Myrtti> k1l_: and?
[14:16] <k1l_> so maybe they are used to it :)
[14:33] <topyli> how about ubuntu-dvb? since that's what it is
[14:33] <popey> it isnt
[14:34] <topyli> we can watch other kinds of tv too?
[14:34] <popey> its for discussion of products relating to 'showing stuff on a tv screen', 'lean back' style interfaces
[14:34] <popey> not specific to DVB-*
[14:34] <topyli> oh
[14:35] <topyli> right
[14:35] <topyli> reminds me, i still don't know whether it is my dvb dongle or antenna or drivers that broke
[14:38] <topyli> oh yeah jussi, i'd go for -tv then
[14:38] <Myrtti> smarttv?
[15:09] <popey> smart TV is a specific implementation
[15:10] <popey> putting the intelligence in the telly, this channel is for more generic discussion, which may include smart TV, set top box etc etc
[15:16]  * Myrtti gives up
[15:30] <jussi> popey: just use -tv IMHO
[15:31] <jussi> If the loco comes along, they can use -tuvalu
[15:31] <pangolin> ubuntu-tv seems the most discoverable and sane choice
[15:31] <pangolin> good morning! :)
[15:31] <jussi> Im off now, laters
[15:31] <pangolin> night jussi
[15:34] <popey> 13:19:47 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Information on #ubuntu-tv:
[15:34] <popey> 13:19:47 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Founder    : undifined
[15:34] <popey> looks like undifined speculatively registered that channel for some reason
[15:34] <Mkaysi> He goes to bed very early. It's half past five.
[15:35] <popey> who? undifined?
[15:35] <popey> he hasn't been on for months
[15:35] <Mkaysi> Has anyone seen undifined in a long time? According to NickServ he was last seen 16 weeks, 1 day, 17:04:53 ago.
[15:35] <Mkaysi> No, I meant jussi :)
[15:59] <pangolin> jussi: Wouldn't it make more sense if ubuntulog was in the uds channels?
[16:02] <pangolin> AlanBell: ^
[16:03] <AlanBell> probably
[16:04] <pangolin> I guess the ircc has to email rt to get that done
[17:00] <bkerensa> any Ubottu gurus around?
[17:00] <bkerensa> :D
[17:03] <LjL> bkerensa: try asking #Ubuntu-bots-team, they might notice sooner
[17:37] <geovaio> hello anyone there to help?
[17:38] <Pici> geovaio: If you're looking for Ubuntu support, #ubuntu is the place to be.