[13:29] <Ursinha> last try
[13:29] <Ursinha> bug 879589
[22:00] <beuno> CC meeting?
[22:00] <dholbach> hey
[22:00] <beuno> o/
[22:01] <pleia2> #startmeeting
[22:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Nov  2 22:01:56 2011 UTC.  The chair is pleia2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
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[22:02] <dholbach> http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/status.xsl
[22:02] <dholbach> → antigua 2
[22:02] <dholbach> (if you want to listen in)
[22:03] <pleia2> #topic Community Council meeting in #ubuntu-uds-Antigua2 shoutcast: http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/status.xsl (antigua2)
[22:03] <pleia2> there we go :)
[22:03] <AlanBell> vlc http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/antigua2.ogg.m3u
[22:03] <dholbach> excellent
[22:03] <pleia2> we're over in #ubuntu-uds-Antigua2
[22:03] <AlanBell> want the meeting bot in there?
[22:03] <pleia2> nah
[22:03] <beuno> I think this is good
[22:04] <alourie> it's streaming allright
[22:05] <beuno> yes
[22:05] <beuno> nobody talk to each other
[22:05] <beuno> I think people can listen in
[22:05] <beuno> and type here
[22:05] <pleia2> #topic Community Council Meeting
[22:05] <pleia2> ok, we just do it here :)
[22:06] <alourie> we hear you
[22:06] <alourie> :-)
[22:06] <czajkowski> Aloha
[22:06] <AlanBell> I can ask the bot to join the other channel if you want to use the big screen
[22:06] <pleia2> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[22:07] <dholbach> AlanBell, when you reviewed the list of blogs what did you find?
[22:07] <AlanBell> not completed the exercise yet, about 400 names compared so far
[22:07] <beuno> so who's there?
[22:07] <AlanBell> there do appear to be quite a few that need further review, I can't match easily
[22:07] <pleia2> last time nigelb handled this, and also added contacts for all the teams (yay!)
[22:07] <AlanBell> great
[22:07] <dholbach> AlanBell, thanks a lot for doing this exercise
[22:07] <akgraner> Ditto thanks AlanBell!
[22:08] <AlanBell> so I will finish up and share the spreadsheet with the CC for further review
[22:08] <AlanBell> there might be more you can match than I can
[22:08] <pleia2> my inbox tells me this was done in June of this year
[22:08] <beuno> o/  Mark
[22:08] <AlanBell> e.g. dave.walker==daviey, jono==jonobacon etc
[22:08] <AlanBell> pleia2: ok, great, I shouldn't find too many then
[22:09] <pleia2> #topic Add Canonical blog to Ubuntu Planet
[22:10] <beuno> I don;t think we can do that
[22:10] <beuno> because it's a per-feed setting
[22:11] <AlanBell> who is the contact person (who is an Ubuntu Member) for voices?
[22:11] <beuno> (for voices)
[22:13] <beuno> http://blog.canonical.com/?
[22:13] <pleia2> #action dholbach to coordinate getting Canonical Blog w/ Ubuntu Planet tag added to Ubuntu Planet
[22:13] <meetingology> ACTION: dholbach to coordinate getting Canonical Blog w/ Ubuntu Planet tag added to Ubuntu Planet
[22:13] <pleia2> beuno: yes
[22:13] <Gwaihir> beuno, yep
[22:14] <beuno> k, I think we just add in the right feed
[22:14] <pleia2> https://code.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/+junk/planet-filter
[22:14] <AlanBell> there is an imperfect match between "nick = " lines and launchapd nicks
[22:14] <AlanBell> jono and jonobacon for example
[22:15] <AlanBell> and nick=daviey is ~dave.walker
[22:15] <AlanBell> I might tidy that up to launchpad nicks and try to get an easier process
[22:15] <beuno> every year
[22:16] <pleia2> #topic General Community Comments?
[22:17] <beuno> +1
[22:20]  * beuno stares at popey 
[22:20]  * popey tickles beuno 
[22:20] <pleia2> #action CC to develop basic question template for teams who come to CC meetings
[22:20] <meetingology> ACTION: CC to develop basic question template for teams who come to CC meetings
[22:20] <beuno> terms, multiple boards at the same time?
[22:21] <dholbach> page 25 of the survey results
[22:25]  * AlanBell wonders if sabdfl filled out the survey
[22:27] <beuno> a simple(r) survey
[22:28] <beuno> "General Quality", "Interface", "Hardware support", etc
[22:29] <beuno> from personal experience, I see 1 or 2 emails a week in my LoCo list with people "leaving Ubuntu"
[22:29] <beuno> which I haven't seen before the last year or so
[22:31] <beuno> no, but why is it happening more frequently?   Existing members start to feel bad about the general direction fo the project
[22:31]  * AlanBell has finished the first pass of planet feed/member list comparison
[22:31] <czajkowski> AlanBell: thank you
[22:31] <AlanBell> there are 95 blog feed nicks that I am unable to simply match off against launchpad nicks of members
[22:32]  * dholbach hugs AlanBell
[22:32] <beuno> I don't feel this is the case anymore
[22:32] <beuno> it was when we switched to Unity
[22:32] <AlanBell> some of whom I am sure can be matched as I recognise the nicks as active
[22:32] <beuno> but I don't feel that's it anymore
[22:32] <czajkowski> nods
[22:36] <AlanBell> oops, make that 134
[22:36] <czajkowski> 134 is a lot
[22:36] <beuno> yes, we get those several times a week
[22:37] <beuno> I think there's no good way to communicate with all _users_
[22:37] <beuno> we could of had an intro on the actual install
[22:37] <beuno> "Hi!  We changes the world. Here is how things are better."
[22:37] <beuno> s/installer/first boot
[22:38]  * beuno suspects the irc channel is not on the projector
[22:38] <Gwaihir> beuno, no, it is
[22:38] <dholbach> beuno, it is
[22:38] <Gwaihir> we are reading
[22:39] <beuno> I think the gnome shell thing is in the past now
[22:39] <beuno> the problem will be on end users who don't know about these things
[22:39] <beuno> for this LTS
[22:40] <beuno> we should tell people, when they boot up, why we changed the world, and why it's better
[22:40] <Gwaihir> that's a good point, telling people who switch from the previous LTS
[22:42] <alourie> wouldn't it be too interruptive?
[22:42] <beuno> on first boot?  once?
[22:42] <alourie> well
[22:42] <alourie> most users would just click "ok" without reading
[22:42] <beuno> the ones who already know, yes
[22:43] <beuno> the ones who are suddenly lost, maybe not
[22:43] <alourie> hm
[22:43] <alourie> "the world changed" announcement. I kinda like it
[22:44] <alourie> it could be synced with u.com
[22:45] <beuno> first boot?
[22:45] <beuno> first time you hit the dash?
[22:46]  * beuno hand-waves
[22:46] <Gwaihir> during the upgrade also
[22:46] <Gwaihir> if people upgrade directly from the LTS
[22:46] <beuno> Gwaihir, the thing is, lucid is lucid, shipped
[22:46] <beuno> so we can't change that code
[22:46] <Gwaihir> true
[22:47] <pleia2> #action CC to assemble and get published quick FAQ for "Why Unity?"
[22:47] <meetingology> ACTION: CC to assemble and get published quick FAQ for "Why Unity?"
[22:48]  * AlanBell has sent audit results spreadsheet to the CC
[22:49] <dholbach> thanks AlanBell
[22:50] <dholbach> any other business?
[22:50] <beuno> so, we won a "battle" for being the most popular OSS OS, right?  maybe focus people on the next objective again?   Take over the world?
[22:51] <ajmitch> still a battle to remain the most popular
[22:51] <dholbach> thanks a lot everyone
[22:51] <beuno> o/
[22:51] <AlanBell> o/
[22:51]  * dholbach hugs you all
[22:52] <Gwaihir> thanks everyone!
[22:52]  * beuno listens to czajkowski curse
[22:53] <dholbach> haha
[22:53] <dholbach> see you tomorrow
[22:53] <AlanBell> #endmeeting
[22:53] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Nov  2 22:53:17 2011 UTC.
[22:53] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-11-02-22.01.moin.txt
[22:53] <AlanBell> heard pleia2 go out the door :)