[05:40] <magespawn> morning all
[05:50] <nlsthzn_> o/
[06:07] <Kilos> morning all
[06:08] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn_work 
[06:10] <nlsthzn_work> Good morning uncle Kilos :)
[06:12] <magespawn> morning Kilos
[06:13] <magespawn> howdy nlsthzn_work
[06:16] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[06:16] <magespawn> http://bushwaters.gandcnet.com/ this is why i was interested in nmap and aircrack-ng
[06:16] <nlsthzn_work> morning magespawn 
[06:16] <magespawn> was beginning to think i was not here again.
[06:17] <Kilos> lol
[06:20] <sakhi> morning
[06:21] <Kilos> morning sakhi 
[06:21] <nlsthzn_work> o/ sakhi 
[06:24] <Kilos> Maaz, whats for breakfast
[06:24] <Maaz> Wheatbix today Kilos, and if you are still hungry maybe bacon and eggs.
[06:24] <Kilos> yay
[06:25] <Kilos> nlsthzn, no bacon up there
[06:25] <Kilos> oh wrong nlsthzn_work 
[06:27] <nlsthzn_work> Sure, you can buy bacon...
[06:27] <Kilos> oh
[06:28] <nlsthzn_work> Just not get it anywhere to eat already prepared :)
[06:28] <Kilos> oic so you do it yourself
[06:30] <nlsthzn_work> Sure (however the last "bacon: the wife bought wasn't pork, but turkey... not bad to be honest)
[06:30] <Kilos> wow
[06:33] <magespawn> nice taste just do not expect pork
[06:34] <Kilos> i not a big pork eater but enjoyed bacon raw
[06:34] <Kilos> havent had for years now
[06:38] <magespawn> my butcher makes awesome pork bacon
[06:38] <magespawn> Kilos did yo get the message i left for you?
[06:39] <magespawn> yo=you
[06:39] <Kilos> ya 15 mins after you left
[06:39] <magespawn> thats cool
[06:39] <Kilos> what was it again magespawn 
[06:39] <Kilos> i forget
[06:40] <magespawn> the first board it look like the audio controller if fried
[06:40] <Kilos> oh yes
[06:40] <Kilos> thats sad
[06:40] <magespawn> well i can still use it as a server no need for sound there
[06:40] <Kilos> whole motherboard useless because of sound
[06:40] <Kilos> oh ya
[06:40] <magespawn> no just the sound
[06:41] <Kilos> and the sound chip imbedded hey
[06:41] <Kilos> so no replacing
[06:43] <magespawn> yup can add and expansion card if i want
[06:43] <magespawn> and=an
[06:43] <Kilos> hi MPD 
[06:43] <Kilos> why you unknown here
[06:43] <Kilos> thats a kakka name
[06:43] <superfly> hi Kilos
[06:43] <Maaz> superfly: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell superfly God bless and keep you and the family safe on your journey. Enjoy the holiday" 1 day, 14 hours, 29 minutes and 33 seconds ago
[06:43] <Kilos> oh thats good to learn
[06:44] <Kilos> hiya superfly you there safe and sound
[06:44] <superfly> yes, we are
[06:44] <Kilos> enjoy, my friend
[06:44] <superfly> and I'm using my new netbook
[06:44] <superfly> and trying to get used to this keyboard
[06:44] <Kilos> lol that was quick
[06:45] <Kilos> with ubuntu on already
[06:45] <Kilos> kubuntu
[06:46] <superfly> Kilos: whast do you mean, "quick" - it's 11:45 on tuesday evening
[06:46] <Kilos> i mean getting there and buying and installing etc
[06:46] <Kilos> lol
[06:47] <Kilos> didnt you stop to say hello even
[06:48] <superfly> Kilos: yes, I have just installed kubuntu on here
[06:48] <Kilos> ah
[06:49] <nlsthzn_work> cheers for eers :)
[06:53] <Kilos> is it an i5 or i7 superfly 
[06:54] <Kilos> and what winsucks did you have to remove
[06:54] <superfly> it's an atom
[06:54] <superfly> yeah, windows 7, but i didn't even let it load
[06:55] <Kilos> lol
[06:58] <magespawn> lol
[06:58] <magespawn> later all off on a transfer
[06:59] <Kilos> enjoy magespawn 
[07:00] <Kilos> superfly, is mrs_fly happy to see the family
[07:05] <Kilos> been a while
[07:06] <superfly> she is
[07:07] <superfly> what time is it there?
[07:07] <Kilos> 0907
[07:07] <superfly> ah
[07:08] <Kilos> we like 9 hours ahead
[07:10] <superfly> Kilos: yup
[08:08] <Kilos> be back later
[10:36] <kbmonkey> gday
[10:44] <nuvolari> o/
[10:44] <nuvolari> lo everyone
[10:50] <kbmonkey> lo
[10:51] <kbmonkey> nuvolari my nuwe plek is in die attic!
[11:29] <inetpro> superfly: wb
[11:34] <Kilos> hehe this morning i chatted with superfly yesterday
[11:34] <Kilos> bedtime superfly 
[11:35] <inetpro> hiho Kilos
[11:35] <Kilos> hi there inetpro 
[11:35] <inetpro> Kilos: you are confusing me
[11:35] <Kilos> me cross gmail
[11:36] <Kilos> remember we tried to change settings in pidgin because xmpp kept disconnecting
[11:36] <Kilos> i installed gajim and it does same thing
[11:36] <inetpro> Kilos: wth is gajim?
[11:36] <Kilos> its a xmpp chat tool
[11:37] <Kilos> in the repos
[11:37] <inetpro> hmm... ok
[11:37] <Kilos> so somewhere between my pc and gmail is the prob
[11:37] <Kilos> not my im client
[11:37] <inetpro> Kilos: your speed/signal is just not good enough
[11:38] <Kilos> nee man
[11:38] <inetpro> ja man
[11:38] <Kilos> using a 3g modem
[11:39] <Kilos> it used to work fine pidgin did
[11:39] <Kilos> last 3 months or so xmpp started giving trouble
[11:40] <inetpro> mtr -n -r -c 10 www.google.com
[11:40] <inetpro> Kilos: what do you get when you do that ^^
[11:41] <Kilos> sec
[11:42] <Kilos> its trying. my evolution also takes long to check if there mail in google
[11:43] <Kilos> there are 11 lines of info there
[11:43] <Kilos> some up to 90% loss
[11:43] <Kilos> last one 10%
[11:43] <inetpro> Kilos: you see what I mean?
[11:43] <inetpro> speed/signal
[11:44] <inetpro> well more like speed/signal/stability
[11:45] <Kilos> so its vbodacom?
[11:45] <Kilos> voda
[11:45]  * inetpro is still waiting for Vodacom technicians to come out
[11:45] <Kilos> last i downloaded i got up to 320k/s
[11:46] <inetpro> my call has been escalated and they phoned me again yesterday that they will be sending someone to check it out
[11:46] <Kilos> that was a while back
[11:46] <Kilos> ah
[11:46] <inetpro> Kilos: what did you download?
[11:46] <Kilos> last update for maverick
[11:46] <inetpro> just check it out, you will probably find that it's ok for small files
[11:47] <inetpro> the moment you download bigger files you'll pull your hare out
[11:47] <Kilos> it did the 30m linux fine
[11:48] <Kilos> was a great update
[11:48] <Kilos> total 120m
[11:48] <inetpro> s/hare/hair/
[11:49] <Kilos> yeah i understood that typo
[11:49] <Kilos> but the thing is
[11:49] <Kilos> msn and mxit dont disconnect
[11:49] <Kilos> on xmpp
[11:49] <Kilos> only xmpp
[11:50] <Kilos> even aim is stable
[11:50] <inetpro> possibly the way it communicates in smaller packets?
[11:50] <Kilos> im sure its a google weekness
[11:50] <Kilos> nee man pidgin chats in tiny bits
[11:51] <Kilos> its the xmpp connection
[11:51] <inetpro> Kilos: how many buddies do you have on mxit/msn/xmpp?
[11:51] <Kilos> even when not chatting it keeps connecting and disconnecting
[11:51] <Kilos> mxit 4 msn 1 xmpp 1
[11:52] <Kilos> and you on other xmpp account
[11:52] <inetpro> hmm...
[11:52] <Kilos> i have even purged pidgin and installed again from scratch
[11:53] <Kilos> now gajim does same so its google
[11:53] <inetpro> Kilos: your xmpp profile stays on google's servers
[11:53] <Kilos> and gajim is jabber only
[11:54] <inetpro> no amount of purging on your local side will clear the amount of connections
[11:54] <Kilos> i have even opened a new account with google and it also keeps disconnecting
[11:54] <inetpro> ok
[11:55] <inetpro> Kilos: what port do you connect to?
[11:55] <Kilos> so its an empty mail box
[11:55] <Kilos> how i see that
[11:55] <inetpro> pidgin manage account
[11:56] <inetpro> advanced
[11:56] <Kilos> where you see advanced
[11:56] <inetpro> pidgin manage accounts | modify | advanced
[11:57] <Kilos> ah
[11:57] <Kilos> 5222
[11:57] <Kilos> and that require ssl/tls is ticked
[11:57] <inetpro> Kilos: try 5223 with require SSL/TLS and Force old SSL
[11:59] <Kilos> Force old SSL ??
[11:59] <inetpro> Kilos: or just try port 443 with require SSL/TLS and Force old SSL
[11:59] <Kilos> oh i must tick the force block too
[11:59] <inetpro> Kilos: yes
[12:00] <inetpro> but not when you use port 5222
[12:00] <Kilos> and this is right?
[12:00] <Kilos> proxy.eu.jabber.org
[12:01] <inetpro> that is for transferring files
[12:01] <inetpro> ignore that
[12:01] <inetpro> and make sure you don't use a proxy in the other tab (default)
[12:01] <Kilos> if i tick the proxy block it says its using gnome proxy settings
[12:02] <Kilos> no proxy?
[12:02] <inetpro> well that should also be fine, because you probably have not set a proxy in GNOME
[12:03] <Kilos> i dont even know what a proxy is
[12:03] <inetpro> Kilos: what's the meaning of the word?
[12:03] <inetpro> Maaz: define proxy
[12:03] <Maaz> inetpro: Procuration \Proc`u*ra"tion\, n. [L. procuratio: cf. F. procuration. See {Procure}.] [1913 Webster] 1. The act of procuring; procurement. [1913 Webster]  2. The management of another's affairs. [1913 Webster]  3. The instrument by which a person is empowered to transact the affairs of another; a proxy. [1913 Webster]  4. (Ch. of Eng.) A sum of money paid formerly to the bishop or archdeacon, now to the ecclesiastical commissioners,
[12:04] <Kilos> its used to give permission
[12:04] <Kilos> lol ya gives control over someone elses affairs
[12:04] <Kilos> like for voting etc
[12:04] <Kilos> and wills
[12:04] <Kilos> and accounts
[12:05] <inetpro> a proxy server is a computer network service that allows clients to make indirect network connections to other network services
[12:05] <inetpro> a server (a computer system or an application) that acts as an intermediary for requests from clients seeking resources from other servers
[12:06] <inetpro> A client connects to the proxy server, requesting some service, such as a file, connection, web page, or other resource, available from a different server.
[12:06] <Kilos> ok ty
[12:07] <inetpro> Kilos: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_server for lots more info
[12:08] <Kilos> is that port 443 the best?
[12:08] <Kilos> will wget that and look when ofline
[12:09] <Kilos> but if gajim has the same prob doesnt that mean my pc is using a sleg port to google
[12:13] <Kilos> now pidgin doesnt connect at all looks like
[12:14] <Kilos> hiya nlsthzn 
[12:14] <inetpro> Kilos: what is the server that you connect to?
[12:15] <Kilos> thats empty
[12:15] <inetpro> and what other options do you have ticked/unticked in the advanced tab?
[12:15] <inetpro> eish!
[12:15] <inetpro> why?
[12:15] <inetpro> that should be talk.google.com
[12:16] <Kilos> i have never fiddled in there
[12:16] <inetpro> hmm....
[12:17] <Kilos> yay i connected with that in
[12:17] <Kilos> looked the other account also had nothing in server
[12:18] <inetpro> Kilos: ok check that for a few days and perhaps it will be more stable
[12:18] <Kilos> ty very much inetpro 
[12:18] <Kilos> lets hope
[12:18] <inetpro> the other ports may be throttled on VC
[12:19] <Kilos> very frustrating when trying to chat to debs and she is moeg after work and we keep losing contact
[12:19] <Kilos> ah well lets hope hey
[12:19] <Kilos> dankie baie
[12:19] <inetpro> Kilos: np
[12:21] <nlsthzn_> o/ all
[12:21] <inetpro> heya nlsthzn_ (with a tail)
[12:22] <nlsthzn_> hehe... yes my other self without the tail is @ home  :p
[12:22]  * inetpro lol
[12:23] <Kilos> lol
[12:23] <magespawn> ha
[12:23] <magespawn> howdy back again
[12:23] <Kilos> hey magespawn 
[12:23] <magespawn> nice and hot in zululand today
[12:26] <Kilos> that place can get very hot
[12:26] <Kilos> remember mixing concrete there and burning throught a t shirt that i peeled a feew weeks later
[12:27] <Kilos> somewhere in the 40s it was
[12:27] <magespawn> yup and humidity in the high 80's
[12:30] <magespawn> nice 101 on internet im there
[12:40] <Kilos> lol
[12:40] <not_nlsthzn> :p
[12:41] <Kilos> hee hee
[12:41] <Kilos> wassup  there
[12:41] <not_nlsthzn> Just having some fun in anther channel :)
[12:41] <Kilos> not_nlsthzn, ah ok
[12:41] <Kilos> you forgiven
[12:41] <not_nlsthzn> (and confusing people in others ;)
[12:47] <Kilos> you inna naughty mood not_nlsthzn 
[12:48] <Kilos> how would one change the port you using to vodacom
[12:48] <Kilos> maybe i got a kakka port im using thats why 90%losses
[12:49] <magespawn> I wouldn't know if you could, i would guess that what port you use is controlled by them
[12:52] <Kilos> eish
[12:52] <Kilos> heavy losses with this command from inetpro 
[12:52] <Kilos> mtr -n -r -c 10 www.google.com
[12:53] <Kilos> and same to yahoo and hotmail
[12:53] <Kilos> up to 100%losses
[12:53] <Kilos> fault must be vodacom
[12:57] <magespawn> maybe this is the problem http://mybroadband.co.za/news/broadband/37374-adsl-problems-this-may-explain-it.html
[12:58] <Kilos> ty will wget that
[12:59] <Kilos> i go offline to read that now
[12:59] <Kilos> bbl
[12:59] <magespawn> where do you use that command?
[12:59] <magespawn> no do not worry worked it out
[13:00] <inetpro> magespawn: nope that is unlikely to be the problem
[13:00] <magespawn> inetpro, what does the mtr -n -r -c stand for?
[13:01] <inetpro> magespawn: -n is for numeric
[13:01] <inetpro> -r is for reporting
[13:01] <inetpro> -c is to count until 10
[13:02] <nuvolari> Kilos: ping
[13:02] <nuvolari> I keep on looping die oom mis
[13:02] <magespawn> does it send a ping packet to those address, are the addresses random?
[13:02] <inetpro> magespawn: so in effect it's just a quick test for 10 ping attempts to each hop with a nice report at the end
[13:03] <magespawn> ahh right
[13:03] <Kilos-> eish
[13:03] <magespawn> on the terminal there are 11 ip addresses with 10 packets each
[13:04] <magespawn> Kilos inetpro  says that is not the problem
[13:04] <Kilos-> * Connecting to chat.freenode.net (2001:1418:13:1::25) port 8001...
[13:04] <Kilos-> * Connection failed. Error: Network is unreachable
[13:04] <Kilos-> thats a bad wget page magespawn 
[13:04] <magespawn> sorry
[13:04] <Kilos-> lol
[13:04] <Kilos-> np
[13:04] <inetpro> magespawn: I say that because I've done a ping (mtr) test from home to the office and the reverse from the office to home
[13:05] <Kilos-> there must be a way to tell your pc which vodacom port to connect to
[13:05] <inetpro> and the problem is IMHO most likely between the modem/router and the tower 
[13:05] <magespawn> going to google
[13:05] <inetpro> Kilos-: no
[13:06] <Kilos-> time to start mailing pieter uys methinks
[13:06] <Kilos-> whew
[13:06] <magespawn> inetpro, i see combines ping and traceroute?
[13:06] <inetpro> magespawn: yep
[13:07] <inetpro> Kilos-: you don't connect to vodacom via a port, you connect to an application on another system via a port
[13:09] <Kilos-> oh my googness
[13:09] <Kilos-> goodness too
[13:10] <Kilos-> but from my modem its all vodacom 
[13:10] <Kilos-> no one else to blame
[13:11] <Kilos-> shaping/throttling etc
[13:11] <Kilos-> better to mail pieter then hey?
[13:13] <Kilos-> if you are paying for a service it is your basic human right to receive what you are paying for
[13:13] <Kilos-> hehe that sounds so modern hey
[13:14] <not_nlsthzn> Kilos-: which south africa is that applicable?
[13:14]  * not_nlsthzn doesn't mean old and new btw
[13:14] <not_nlsthzn> just for the record...
[13:16] <Kilos-> that guy on fb always says it a basic human right to have internet connection
[13:16] <Kilos-> in the whole world i think not just here
[13:16] <Kilos-> afrodeity
[13:16] <Kilos-> ubuntupunk
[13:17] <Kilos-> freethe web i think its called
[13:17] <Kilos-> here you dont even get what you are paying for right now
[13:17] <not_nlsthzn> Kilos-: I laugh at the notion of Internet being a basic human right
[13:17] <Kilos-> 3 or 4 months ago my voda connection was great
[13:18] <magespawn> would be nice if it was
[13:18] <Kilos-> yeah i did too but it was voted for somewhere
[13:18] <magespawn> they might have changed something at your tower
[13:19] <Kilos-> yeah last i heard they were upgrading to another better tower but according to the address they gave me is 5 ks further than this one
[13:20] <Kilos-> and this one could do hsdpa
[13:21] <Kilos-> but they arent shy to take my data
[13:21] <magespawn> and sometimes if they change the aerials on the tower itself that can make a difference.
[13:22] <magespawn> had some people here in hluhluwe maybe 500m from the tower with no reception.
[13:22] <Kilos-> i have a perfect 5 bar signal on the cellphone
[13:22] <magespawn> maybe the modem is faulty
[13:23] <Kilos-> its the data or/and internet connection that sucks now
[13:24] <Kilos-> nope ian was here and his new huawei is worse than my alcatel modem
[13:24] <Kilos-> stc modem
[13:24] <Kilos-> that i unlocked
[13:26] <Kilos-> better to email their ceo, im just not sure how to word the complaint
[13:49] <magespawn> does he tweet?
[13:57] <Kilos-> yeah wait i get his twitter thing
[13:57] <Kilos-> i found his email addy too
[13:57] <Kilos-> apparently he isnt shy to try help out
[13:58] <Kilos-> pieter@vodacom.co.za
[13:58] <Kilos-> ceo@vodacom.co.za
[13:58] <Kilos-> http://twitter.com/#!/uyspj
[14:00] <Kilos-> just dunno if he will know what a   mtr  command is
[14:01] <Kilos-> you gonna tweet him magespawn 
[14:02] <Kilos-> here is my tower number
[14:03] <Kilos-> T2089
[14:03] <Kilos-> and im about 1k from it
[14:15] <magespawn> okay will do how can he get hold of you?
[14:16] <magespawn> brb just going to shop
[14:25] <Kilos-> he can mail me on msdomdonner@gmail.com or phone on 0788171857
[15:30] <Kilos-> yo Vince-0 
[15:31] <Kilos-> superfly, you awake yet
[15:47] <magespawn> Kilos have you had a reply from him before?
[15:47] <Vince-0> Kilos! Hi
[15:47] <Vince-0> You're always active in here!
[15:48] <Symmetria> wtf
[15:48] <Symmetria> vlc is irritating me
[15:48] <Symmetria> if I do a local play with options  :dshow-vdev=Decklink Video Capture :dshow-adev=Decklink Audio Capture :dshow-caching=100 :dshow-chroma=UYVY :dshow-fps=25 everything works
[15:48] <Symmetria> off the capture card
[15:48] <Symmetria> if I do streaming though with  :dshow-vdev=Decklink Video Capture :dshow-adev=Decklink Audio Capture :dshow-caching=100 :dshow-chroma=UYVY :dshow-fps=25 :sout=#duplicate{dst=http{mux=ffmpeg{mux=flv},dst=:8080/},dst=display} :no-sout-rtp-sap :no-sout-standard-sap :sout-keep
[15:48] <Symmetria> everything breaks 
[15:48] <Symmetria> well, the video is fine, but no sound
[15:50] <magespawn> i think for some of us that will still be wtf
[15:50] <magespawn> even with the explanation
[15:50] <Kilos-> magespawn, no i have never had contact with him
[15:51] <Kilos-> always went with phone to voda themselves
[15:52] <Kilos-> and the voda help desk even told me to take my fone to nokia beacuse it was faulty
[15:52] <Kilos-> but a year later it still works great
[15:52] <Kilos-> the help desk should be called the pass the buck desk
[15:53] <Kilos-> yeah Vince-0 i am here as often as data allows
[16:00] <Vince-0> data allows? U capped?
[16:00] <Kilos-> get data from family and friends
[16:03] <Vince-0> Oh mobile data?
[16:03] <Kilos-> yeah
[16:13] <superfly> hi Kilos-
[16:14] <Kilos-> hiya superfly are you near to canonical
[16:14] <Kilos-> if you are you should let them add a face to the name
[16:15] <Kilos-> aw i got a tail this time
[16:20] <superfly> Kilos: Canonical? no
[16:20]  * Symmetria looks around
[16:20] <Kilos> well at least you here by us superfly so thats good
[16:23]  * kerbero[tnt] looks around too
[16:24] <Symmetria> kerbero, decided with the harddrives that I'm loading them into another machine Im selling rather
[16:24] <Kilos> kerbero you look kinda explosive today
[16:24] <Symmetria> since it pushes up the value of the machine slightly
[16:24] <kerbero[tnt]> ahh ok
[16:24] <Symmetria> :p if you know anyone in capetown who is looking for another machine going cheap lemme know
[16:24] <kerbero[tnt]> will there be any left i can buy?
[16:25] <kerbero[tnt]> what type of machine?
[16:25] <Symmetria> 4gig of ram, 3gig cpu, 8600 nvidia video card, 1 x 1Tb drive and 3 x 500 gig disks = R1500 bux 
[16:25] <kerbero[tnt]> i see
[16:26] <kerbero[tnt]> what model cpu?
[16:26] <Symmetria> heh lemme check
[16:27] <Symmetria> its a pentium D 3ghz *shrug* not a monster machine, but it works pretty well 
[16:27] <kerbero[tnt]> hmm
[16:28] <kerbero[tnt]> that is the range cpu's i throw away :(
[16:28] <Symmetria> lemme check what the other machien is that I might be able to sell for same price just bigger cpu
[16:28] <kerbero[tnt]> that is really a lot of ram though
[16:28] <Symmetria> actually, yeah, I don't really wanna get rid of this other machine, I got a 2.93 i3 
[16:29] <kerbero[tnt]> mow that IS a nice cpu
[16:29] <kerbero[tnt]> but
[16:29] <kerbero[tnt]> i need hdd's
[16:30] <Symmetria> heh, tell ya what, I can do the i3 + 1 x 1TB + 3 x 500gig + the 8600 video card + a USB3 card + 4gigs of ram for R2k if you prepared to wait a coupla days before you take it :)
[16:30] <kerbero[tnt]> :(
[16:31] <Symmetria> :P and if ya commit to taking the machine, I can give ya the 3 500gig disks straight away since they aint in the machine at the moment, infact I can give ya 4 
[16:31] <kerbero[tnt]> how about i only take that 4 hdd's?
[16:32] <magespawn> i would take that machine but i am in hluhluwe
[16:32] <Symmetria> heh, not really worth selling those disks on their own, I mean, if I sold the disks on their own I'd be wanting like 200 bux each just to make it worth while, and its not worth your while paying 200 bux for a 500gig disk 
[16:32] <Symmetria> otherwise make more cash back loading them into a machine
[16:33] <kerbero[tnt]> yeah i undersatnd
[16:33] <magespawn> what would the transport up to me be?
[16:35] <Symmetria> yeah it would :) lol
[16:44] <magespawn> kerbero[tnt] when throwing things away you can always throw them in this direction.
[16:44] <kerbero[tnt]> hehe
[16:44] <kerbero[tnt]> will remember
[16:45] <magespawn> i live in hluhluwe complete backwater as far as computer go. tonight i am earning money ripping somebodies cd for them because they do not know how
[16:45] <magespawn> just to let you know
[16:46] <Kilos> magespawn, what does it mean ripping a cd
[16:47] <magespawn> you convert the cd to mp3 for use on player and dvd machines, car audio, compressed file format so takes up less space
[16:47] <kerbero[tnt]> nice
[16:48] <Kilos> ah
[16:48] <magespawn> if you are on the net the ripping program will usually pull all the cd details artist, album and song titles
[16:49] <Kilos> ah ok
[16:49] <magespawn> nice for those of us with lots of music
[16:50] <magespawn> point and click stuff nothing really technical
[16:51] <Kilos> i just use the mobile media converter to convert to mp3 
[16:51] <Kilos> or ogg or amr etc
[16:51] <Kilos> not professional but works for me
[16:56] <magespawn> yup there are lots of options for this
[17:00] <Symmetria> http://155.232.191.200/screencap.png <[17:19] <nuvolari> o/
[17:21] <Kilos> naand nuvolari 
[17:25] <magespawn> later all off home
[17:26] <Kilos> k magespawn 
[17:34] <Kilos> inetpro, is jy al tuis oompie
[17:35] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[17:35]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[17:39] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[17:39] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[17:39] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[17:39] <Kilos> will do
[18:40] <zeref> lol, friends pc has 2359 infected files
[18:40] <zeref> WTF
[18:40] <Kilos> eish
[18:40] <Kilos> windows
[18:40] <Kilos> what antivirus he using
[18:40] <Kilos> and firewall
[18:41] <zeref> avast
[18:41] <Kilos> avast is good . how did they get in
[18:41] <Kilos> email or borrowed flash disks
[18:41] <zeref> + it keeps removing userinit.exe and rundll32.exe
[18:41] <zeref> prob flash
[18:42] <Kilos> he/she musy first scan them with avast before taken off flash to pc
[18:44] <Kilos> that sounds like xp
[18:44] <Kilos> avast should cure it
[18:44] <Kilos> he/she can also get zonealarm firewall
[18:47] <zeref> yeah, told her
[18:47]  * nlsthzn is slowly getting his vvps set-up and working :)
[18:47] <zeref> but see no listen
[18:47] <zeref> *she
[18:49] <Kilos> eish
[18:49] <Kilos> go nlsthzn 
[18:49] <nlsthzn> :p
[18:51] <Kilos> zeref, tell her the old man says scan everyone else flash disks before opening anything
[18:52] <Kilos> and scan her own after lending out
[19:20] <nuvolari> or just instaal ubuntu
[19:20] <nuvolari> *install
[19:21] <Kilos> lol females are scared till they have played with yours for a while
[19:21] <Kilos> ubuntu that is
[19:24] <Kilos> i forget theres young naughty minds here
[19:24] <nuvolari> lol!
[19:25]  * nuvolari sê liewers niks
[19:25] <Kilos> ja ja
[19:27] <Kilos> bed time for old folks
[19:27] <Kilos> sleep tight all of you lurkers
[19:28] <zeref> hmmm
[19:28] <Kilos> hehe
[19:28] <Kilos> you winning zeref 
[19:28] <Kilos> can take forever to find and cure virusses
[19:29] <zeref> told her to reinstall, and keep doc's
[19:29] <zeref> so over fixing her comp
[19:29] <Kilos> whew
[19:30] <Kilos> if the bug in docs reinstalling wont help[
[19:30] <Kilos> formatting is the only way to kill them
[19:30] <Kilos> save to flash
[19:30] <Kilos> format and reinstall
[19:30] <zeref> she was like, how do you format?
[19:30] <zeref> ........
[19:31] <Kilos> install avast the scan flash before moving stuff back
[19:31] <zeref> *reinstall
[19:32] <zeref> whats also lulz is that the login sound in wondows happens 10 min after you login
[19:32] <Kilos> she must use the partition tool to delete parts then create new ones then it will install after foratting
[19:33] <zeref> partition tool, thats sounds like greek to her
[19:33] <zeref> she is re-installing now
[19:33] <zeref> so i'm done
[19:35] <Kilos> shame poor chick
[19:35] <Kilos> is she nice. if so you should help
[19:38] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:24] <nuvolari> o/ night
[20:29] <nlsthzn> night
[21:54] <Guest0149> molweni  
[22:10] <zeref> hmmmm
[22:10] <zeref> is anybody using gnome3?