[05:40] morning all [05:50] o/ === nlsthzn_ is now known as nlsthzn_work [06:07] morning all [06:08] hi nlsthzn_work [06:10] Good morning uncle Kilos :) [06:12] morning Kilos [06:13] howdy nlsthzn_work [06:16] hi magespawn [06:16] http://bushwaters.gandcnet.com/ this is why i was interested in nmap and aircrack-ng [06:16] morning magespawn [06:16] was beginning to think i was not here again. [06:17] lol [06:20] morning [06:21] morning sakhi [06:21] o/ sakhi [06:24] Maaz, whats for breakfast [06:24] Wheatbix today Kilos, and if you are still hungry maybe bacon and eggs. [06:24] yay [06:25] nlsthzn, no bacon up there [06:25] oh wrong nlsthzn_work [06:27] Sure, you can buy bacon... [06:27] oh [06:28] Just not get it anywhere to eat already prepared :) [06:28] oic so you do it yourself [06:30] Sure (however the last "bacon: the wife bought wasn't pork, but turkey... not bad to be honest) [06:30] wow [06:33] nice taste just do not expect pork [06:34] i not a big pork eater but enjoyed bacon raw [06:34] havent had for years now [06:38] my butcher makes awesome pork bacon [06:38] Kilos did yo get the message i left for you? [06:39] yo=you [06:39] ya 15 mins after you left [06:39] thats cool [06:39] what was it again magespawn [06:39] i forget [06:40] the first board it look like the audio controller if fried [06:40] oh yes [06:40] thats sad [06:40] well i can still use it as a server no need for sound there [06:40] whole motherboard useless because of sound [06:40] oh ya [06:40] no just the sound [06:41] and the sound chip imbedded hey [06:41] so no replacing [06:43] yup can add and expansion card if i want [06:43] and=an [06:43] hi MPD [06:43] why you unknown here [06:43] thats a kakka name [06:43] hi Kilos [06:43] superfly: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell superfly God bless and keep you and the family safe on your journey. Enjoy the holiday" 1 day, 14 hours, 29 minutes and 33 seconds ago [06:43] oh thats good to learn [06:44] hiya superfly you there safe and sound [06:44] yes, we are [06:44] enjoy, my friend [06:44] and I'm using my new netbook [06:44] and trying to get used to this keyboard [06:44] lol that was quick [06:45] with ubuntu on already [06:45] kubuntu [06:46] Kilos: whast do you mean, "quick" - it's 11:45 on tuesday evening [06:46] i mean getting there and buying and installing etc [06:46] lol [06:47] didnt you stop to say hello even [06:48] Kilos: yes, I have just installed kubuntu on here [06:48] ah [06:49] cheers for eers :) [06:53] is it an i5 or i7 superfly [06:54] and what winsucks did you have to remove [06:54] it's an atom [06:54] yeah, windows 7, but i didn't even let it load [06:55] lol [06:58] lol [06:58] later all off on a transfer [06:59] enjoy magespawn [07:00] superfly, is mrs_fly happy to see the family [07:05] been a while [07:06] she is [07:07] what time is it there? [07:07] 0907 [07:07] ah [07:08] we like 9 hours ahead [07:10] Kilos: yup [08:08] be back later [10:36] gday [10:44] o/ [10:44] lo everyone [10:50] lo [10:51] nuvolari my nuwe plek is in die attic! [11:29] superfly: wb [11:34] hehe this morning i chatted with superfly yesterday [11:34] bedtime superfly [11:35] hiho Kilos [11:35] hi there inetpro [11:35] Kilos: you are confusing me [11:35] me cross gmail [11:36] remember we tried to change settings in pidgin because xmpp kept disconnecting [11:36] i installed gajim and it does same thing [11:36] Kilos: wth is gajim? [11:36] its a xmpp chat tool [11:37] in the repos [11:37] hmm... ok [11:37] so somewhere between my pc and gmail is the prob [11:37] not my im client [11:37] Kilos: your speed/signal is just not good enough [11:38] nee man [11:38] ja man [11:38] using a 3g modem [11:39] it used to work fine pidgin did [11:39] last 3 months or so xmpp started giving trouble [11:40] mtr -n -r -c 10 www.google.com [11:40] Kilos: what do you get when you do that ^^ [11:41] sec [11:42] its trying. my evolution also takes long to check if there mail in google [11:43] there are 11 lines of info there [11:43] some up to 90% loss [11:43] last one 10% [11:43] Kilos: you see what I mean? [11:43] speed/signal [11:44] well more like speed/signal/stability [11:45] so its vbodacom? [11:45] voda [11:45] * inetpro is still waiting for Vodacom technicians to come out [11:45] last i downloaded i got up to 320k/s [11:46] my call has been escalated and they phoned me again yesterday that they will be sending someone to check it out [11:46] that was a while back [11:46] ah [11:46] Kilos: what did you download? [11:46] last update for maverick [11:46] just check it out, you will probably find that it's ok for small files [11:47] the moment you download bigger files you'll pull your hare out [11:47] it did the 30m linux fine [11:48] was a great update [11:48] total 120m [11:48] s/hare/hair/ [11:49] yeah i understood that typo [11:49] but the thing is [11:49] msn and mxit dont disconnect [11:49] on xmpp [11:49] only xmpp [11:50] even aim is stable [11:50] possibly the way it communicates in smaller packets? [11:50] im sure its a google weekness [11:50] nee man pidgin chats in tiny bits [11:51] its the xmpp connection [11:51] Kilos: how many buddies do you have on mxit/msn/xmpp? [11:51] even when not chatting it keeps connecting and disconnecting [11:51] mxit 4 msn 1 xmpp 1 [11:52] and you on other xmpp account [11:52] hmm... [11:52] i have even purged pidgin and installed again from scratch [11:53] now gajim does same so its google [11:53] Kilos: your xmpp profile stays on google's servers [11:53] and gajim is jabber only [11:54] no amount of purging on your local side will clear the amount of connections [11:54] i have even opened a new account with google and it also keeps disconnecting [11:54] ok [11:55] Kilos: what port do you connect to? [11:55] so its an empty mail box [11:55] how i see that [11:55] pidgin manage account [11:56] advanced [11:56] where you see advanced [11:56] pidgin manage accounts | modify | advanced [11:57] ah [11:57] 5222 [11:57] and that require ssl/tls is ticked [11:57] Kilos: try 5223 with require SSL/TLS and Force old SSL [11:59] Force old SSL ?? [11:59] Kilos: or just try port 443 with require SSL/TLS and Force old SSL [11:59] oh i must tick the force block too [11:59] Kilos: yes [12:00] but not when you use port 5222 [12:00] and this is right? [12:00] proxy.eu.jabber.org [12:01] that is for transferring files [12:01] ignore that [12:01] and make sure you don't use a proxy in the other tab (default) [12:01] if i tick the proxy block it says its using gnome proxy settings [12:02] no proxy? [12:02] well that should also be fine, because you probably have not set a proxy in GNOME [12:03] i dont even know what a proxy is [12:03] Kilos: what's the meaning of the word? [12:03] Maaz: define proxy [12:03] inetpro: Procuration \Proc`u*ra"tion\, n. [L. procuratio: cf. F. procuration. See {Procure}.] [1913 Webster] 1. The act of procuring; procurement. [1913 Webster] 2. The management of another's affairs. [1913 Webster] 3. The instrument by which a person is empowered to transact the affairs of another; a proxy. [1913 Webster] 4. (Ch. of Eng.) A sum of money paid formerly to the bishop or archdeacon, now to the ecclesiastical commissioners, [12:04] its used to give permission [12:04] lol ya gives control over someone elses affairs [12:04] like for voting etc [12:04] and wills [12:04] and accounts [12:05] a proxy server is a computer network service that allows clients to make indirect network connections to other network services [12:05] a server (a computer system or an application) that acts as an intermediary for requests from clients seeking resources from other servers [12:06] A client connects to the proxy server, requesting some service, such as a file, connection, web page, or other resource, available from a different server. [12:06] ok ty [12:07] Kilos: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_server for lots more info [12:08] is that port 443 the best? [12:08] will wget that and look when ofline [12:09] but if gajim has the same prob doesnt that mean my pc is using a sleg port to google [12:13] now pidgin doesnt connect at all looks like [12:14] hiya nlsthzn [12:14] Kilos: what is the server that you connect to? [12:15] thats empty [12:15] and what other options do you have ticked/unticked in the advanced tab? [12:15] eish! [12:15] why? [12:15] that should be talk.google.com [12:16] i have never fiddled in there [12:16] hmm.... [12:17] yay i connected with that in [12:17] looked the other account also had nothing in server [12:18] Kilos: ok check that for a few days and perhaps it will be more stable [12:18] ty very much inetpro [12:18] lets hope [12:18] the other ports may be throttled on VC [12:19] very frustrating when trying to chat to debs and she is moeg after work and we keep losing contact [12:19] ah well lets hope hey [12:19] dankie baie [12:19] Kilos: np [12:21] o/ all [12:21] heya nlsthzn_ (with a tail) [12:22] hehe... yes my other self without the tail is @ home :p [12:22] * inetpro lol [12:23] lol [12:23] ha [12:23] howdy back again [12:23] hey magespawn [12:23] nice and hot in zululand today [12:26] that place can get very hot [12:26] remember mixing concrete there and burning throught a t shirt that i peeled a feew weeks later [12:27] somewhere in the 40s it was [12:27] yup and humidity in the high 80's [12:30] nice 101 on internet im there === nlsthzn_ is now known as SomeRandomMe === SomeRandomMe is now known as not_nlsthzn [12:40] lol [12:40] :p [12:41] hee hee [12:41] wassup there [12:41] Just having some fun in anther channel :) [12:41] not_nlsthzn, ah ok [12:41] you forgiven [12:41] (and confusing people in others ;) [12:47] you inna naughty mood not_nlsthzn [12:48] how would one change the port you using to vodacom [12:48] maybe i got a kakka port im using thats why 90%losses [12:49] I wouldn't know if you could, i would guess that what port you use is controlled by them [12:52] eish [12:52] heavy losses with this command from inetpro [12:52] mtr -n -r -c 10 www.google.com [12:53] and same to yahoo and hotmail [12:53] up to 100%losses [12:53] fault must be vodacom [12:57] maybe this is the problem http://mybroadband.co.za/news/broadband/37374-adsl-problems-this-may-explain-it.html [12:58] ty will wget that [12:59] i go offline to read that now [12:59] bbl [12:59] where do you use that command? [12:59] no do not worry worked it out [13:00] magespawn: nope that is unlikely to be the problem [13:00] inetpro, what does the mtr -n -r -c stand for? [13:01] magespawn: -n is for numeric [13:01] -r is for reporting [13:01] -c is to count until 10 [13:02] Kilos: ping [13:02] I keep on looping die oom mis [13:02] does it send a ping packet to those address, are the addresses random? [13:02] magespawn: so in effect it's just a quick test for 10 ping attempts to each hop with a nice report at the end [13:03] ahh right [13:03] eish [13:03] on the terminal there are 11 ip addresses with 10 packets each [13:04] Kilos inetpro says that is not the problem [13:04] * Connecting to chat.freenode.net (2001:1418:13:1::25) port 8001... [13:04] * Connection failed. Error: Network is unreachable [13:04] thats a bad wget page magespawn [13:04] sorry [13:04] lol [13:04] np [13:04] magespawn: I say that because I've done a ping (mtr) test from home to the office and the reverse from the office to home [13:05] there must be a way to tell your pc which vodacom port to connect to [13:05] and the problem is IMHO most likely between the modem/router and the tower [13:05] going to google [13:05] Kilos-: no [13:06] time to start mailing pieter uys methinks [13:06] whew [13:06] inetpro, i see combines ping and traceroute? [13:06] magespawn: yep [13:07] Kilos-: you don't connect to vodacom via a port, you connect to an application on another system via a port [13:09] oh my googness [13:09] goodness too [13:10] but from my modem its all vodacom [13:10] no one else to blame [13:11] shaping/throttling etc [13:11] better to mail pieter then hey? [13:13] if you are paying for a service it is your basic human right to receive what you are paying for [13:13] hehe that sounds so modern hey [13:14] Kilos-: which south africa is that applicable? [13:14] * not_nlsthzn doesn't mean old and new btw [13:14] just for the record... [13:16] that guy on fb always says it a basic human right to have internet connection [13:16] in the whole world i think not just here [13:16] afrodeity [13:16] ubuntupunk [13:17] freethe web i think its called [13:17] here you dont even get what you are paying for right now [13:17] Kilos-: I laugh at the notion of Internet being a basic human right [13:17] 3 or 4 months ago my voda connection was great [13:18] would be nice if it was [13:18] yeah i did too but it was voted for somewhere [13:18] they might have changed something at your tower [13:19] yeah last i heard they were upgrading to another better tower but according to the address they gave me is 5 ks further than this one [13:20] and this one could do hsdpa [13:21] but they arent shy to take my data [13:21] and sometimes if they change the aerials on the tower itself that can make a difference. [13:22] had some people here in hluhluwe maybe 500m from the tower with no reception. [13:22] i have a perfect 5 bar signal on the cellphone [13:22] maybe the modem is faulty [13:23] its the data or/and internet connection that sucks now [13:24] nope ian was here and his new huawei is worse than my alcatel modem [13:24] stc modem [13:24] that i unlocked [13:26] better to email their ceo, im just not sure how to word the complaint [13:49] does he tweet? [13:57] yeah wait i get his twitter thing [13:57] i found his email addy too [13:57] apparently he isnt shy to try help out [13:58] pieter@vodacom.co.za [13:58] ceo@vodacom.co.za [13:58] http://twitter.com/#!/uyspj [14:00] just dunno if he will know what a mtr command is [14:01] you gonna tweet him magespawn [14:02] here is my tower number [14:03] T2089 [14:03] and im about 1k from it [14:15] okay will do how can he get hold of you? [14:16] brb just going to shop [14:25] he can mail me on msdomdonner@gmail.com or phone on 0788171857 [15:30] yo Vince-0 [15:31] superfly, you awake yet [15:47] Kilos have you had a reply from him before? [15:47] Kilos! Hi [15:47] You're always active in here! [15:48] wtf [15:48] vlc is irritating me [15:48] if I do a local play with options :dshow-vdev=Decklink Video Capture :dshow-adev=Decklink Audio Capture :dshow-caching=100 :dshow-chroma=UYVY :dshow-fps=25 everything works [15:48] off the capture card [15:48] if I do streaming though with :dshow-vdev=Decklink Video Capture :dshow-adev=Decklink Audio Capture :dshow-caching=100 :dshow-chroma=UYVY :dshow-fps=25 :sout=#duplicate{dst=http{mux=ffmpeg{mux=flv},dst=:8080/},dst=display} :no-sout-rtp-sap :no-sout-standard-sap :sout-keep [15:48] everything breaks [15:48] well, the video is fine, but no sound [15:50] i think for some of us that will still be wtf [15:50] even with the explanation [15:50] magespawn, no i have never had contact with him [15:51] always went with phone to voda themselves [15:52] and the voda help desk even told me to take my fone to nokia beacuse it was faulty [15:52] but a year later it still works great [15:52] the help desk should be called the pass the buck desk [15:53] yeah Vince-0 i am here as often as data allows [16:00] data allows? U capped? [16:00] get data from family and friends [16:03] Oh mobile data? [16:03] yeah [16:13] hi Kilos- [16:14] hiya superfly are you near to canonical [16:14] if you are you should let them add a face to the name [16:15] aw i got a tail this time === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [16:20] Kilos: Canonical? no [16:20] * Symmetria looks around [16:20] well at least you here by us superfly so thats good === tnt_ is now known as kerbero[tnt] [16:23] * kerbero[tnt] looks around too [16:24] kerbero, decided with the harddrives that I'm loading them into another machine Im selling rather [16:24] kerbero you look kinda explosive today [16:24] since it pushes up the value of the machine slightly [16:24] ahh ok [16:24] :p if you know anyone in capetown who is looking for another machine going cheap lemme know [16:24] will there be any left i can buy? [16:25] what type of machine? [16:25] 4gig of ram, 3gig cpu, 8600 nvidia video card, 1 x 1Tb drive and 3 x 500 gig disks = R1500 bux [16:25] i see [16:26] what model cpu? [16:26] heh lemme check [16:27] its a pentium D 3ghz *shrug* not a monster machine, but it works pretty well [16:27] hmm [16:28] that is the range cpu's i throw away :( [16:28] lemme check what the other machien is that I might be able to sell for same price just bigger cpu [16:28] that is really a lot of ram though [16:28] actually, yeah, I don't really wanna get rid of this other machine, I got a 2.93 i3 [16:29] mow that IS a nice cpu [16:29] but [16:29] i need hdd's [16:30] heh, tell ya what, I can do the i3 + 1 x 1TB + 3 x 500gig + the 8600 video card + a USB3 card + 4gigs of ram for R2k if you prepared to wait a coupla days before you take it :) [16:30] :( [16:31] :P and if ya commit to taking the machine, I can give ya the 3 500gig disks straight away since they aint in the machine at the moment, infact I can give ya 4 [16:31] how about i only take that 4 hdd's? [16:32] i would take that machine but i am in hluhluwe [16:32] heh, not really worth selling those disks on their own, I mean, if I sold the disks on their own I'd be wanting like 200 bux each just to make it worth while, and its not worth your while paying 200 bux for a 500gig disk [16:32] otherwise make more cash back loading them into a machine [16:33] yeah i undersatnd [16:33] what would the transport up to me be? [16:35] yeah it would :) lol [16:44] kerbero[tnt] when throwing things away you can always throw them in this direction. [16:44] hehe [16:44] will remember [16:45] i live in hluhluwe complete backwater as far as computer go. tonight i am earning money ripping somebodies cd for them because they do not know how [16:45] just to let you know [16:46] magespawn, what does it mean ripping a cd [16:47] you convert the cd to mp3 for use on player and dvd machines, car audio, compressed file format so takes up less space [16:47] nice [16:48]