[02:02] <phat4life> does ubuntustudio have unity like 11.10
[02:02] <holstein> phat4life: ubuntustudio = ubuntu
[02:02] <phat4life> crap
[02:02] <holstein> so, it has access to the same packages
[02:02] <holstein> you can have unity if you want
[02:02] <phat4life> i hate unity
[02:02] <phat4life> i want to get rid of it lol
[02:02] <holstein> we have XFCE by default
[02:03] <holstein> you can install XFCE or LXDE
[02:03] <holstein> or gnome
[02:03] <holstein> or KDE
[02:03] <holstein> or whatever...
[02:03] <phat4life> i am going to install gnone
[02:03] <holstein> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:03] <phat4life> ever since 11.04 i haven't been able to dual screen either
[02:03] <holstein> could be driver related
[02:03] <phat4life> holstein: alright ill try that
[02:03] <phat4life> yeah nvidia
[02:04] <phat4life> it worked in older versions fine
[02:04] <holstein> im running 10.04 on my dual monitor production machine
[02:04] <holstein> 10.04 = LTS
[02:04] <holstein> i consider the others to be 'testing' really
[02:04] <phat4life> does ubuntu studio use a different kernal than 11.10
[02:05] <holstein> nah, we dont really *need* that so much anymore
[02:05] <holstein> we hope to have a -lowlatency option
[02:05] <holstein> but, its not really necessary these days
[02:06] <phat4life> i really need to be able to use a external monitor.  ugh
[02:07] <holstein> sure
[02:07] <holstein> install 10.04
[02:07] <holstein> gnome2 is there
[02:07] <holstein> no unity
[02:07] <phat4life> yeah that is what i am thinking of doing
[02:08] <phat4life> honestly does anyone really like unity?
[02:08] <phat4life> its so hard to use
[02:08] <holstein> phat4life: i think so
[02:08] <holstein> i dont use it, and its not for me
[02:08] <holstein> but ive heard folks like it
[02:08] <phat4life> reallt? it feels so backwards
[02:08] <holstein> yeah, its not for me
[02:09] <phat4life> well really what i am trying to do is start reverse engineering some of the audio software in ubuntu studio
[02:09] <holstein> why?
[02:09] <holstein> its all opensource
[02:09] <phat4life> i mean not reverse engineer, but contribute
[02:09] <holstein> i mean, have fun with it, but theres no need to reverse engineer
[02:09] <holstein> the source is all there
[02:10] <phat4life> figure out how i works is what i mean by reverse engineer
[02:10] <holstein> we cant include things by default that are not open
[02:10] <holstein> phat4life: O I C
[02:10] <holstein> phat4life: welcome
[02:10] <holstein> let me link you some channels then
[02:10] <phat4life> cool
[02:10] <holstein> #opensourcemusicians is a nice community
[02:10] <holstein> not only buntu obviously
[02:10] <holstein> you can join #ubuntustudio-devel
[02:11] <phat4life> i am mostly going to work on the DAW
[02:11] <holstein> ardour
[02:11] <phat4life> i they have an irc.
[02:11] <holstein> #ardour is a great channel
[02:11] <phat4life> *i think
[02:11] <holstein> las is the main guy
[02:11] <holstein> ardour is his basically
[02:11] <phat4life> yeah i really want to dive right into that code
[02:12] <holstein> with lots of contributors
[02:12] <holstein> phat4life: we can use some coding contributors
[02:12] <holstein> we = ubuntustudio
[02:13] <phat4life> that is cool. i may have to look into that actually
[02:13] <holstein> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
[02:13] <holstein> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/Main_Page is a great project
[02:14] <holstein> falktx is the dev there
[02:14] <holstein> he's in #kxstudio and #opensourcemusicians
[02:14] <holstein> quite a helpful and busy guy in the community
[02:17] <phat4life> sweet thx for the links
[02:17] <holstein> sure
[02:17] <holstein> lots of those guys hang out there
[02:17] <holstein> the rakarrack folks
[02:17] <holstein> dream studio or whatever its called
[02:19] <phat4life> holstein: do you produce?
[04:40] <tlm> E: postfix: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 75
[04:40] <tlm> E: bsd-mailx: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[04:40] <tlm> E: cardstories: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:41] <holstein> tlm: did you turn it off during an upgrade?
[04:41] <holstein> in synaptic, there a 'fix' option
[04:41] <holstein> i would try that first
[04:41] <holstein> then, start with an apt tool
[04:42] <tlm> holstein during an upgrade? no
[04:42] <holstein> tlm: doesnt matter
[04:42] <holstein> try 'fix packages' in synaptic
[04:42] <holstein> fix broken packages
[04:42] <holstein> tlm: you cant have multiple package managers open either
[04:43] <tlm> holstein I don
[04:43] <tlm> 't
[04:44] <holstein> tlm: you dont what?
[04:44] <holstein> see 'fix broken packages' ?
[04:44] <tlm> holstein have any other package managers open, nothing in the term or anything
[04:45] <holstein> tlm: OK
[04:47] <tlm> holstein hitting fix broken packages does nothing so far as I can see, I haven't screwed around with Bleachbit or anything
[04:48] <holstein> tlm: well, something bad has happened
[04:48] <holstein> and i didnt do it ;)
[04:49] <tlm> I blame XFCE, friggin rodents...
[04:49] <holstein> hehe
[04:50] <tlm> installing the Mate PPA, will see if the error pops again
[04:50] <holstein> tlm: its bsd-mailx it seems
[04:51] <holstein> anyways, you could try removing bsd-mailx and whatever cardstories is
[04:51] <holstein> if you've added a lot of PPA's, who konws
[04:52] <holstein> you can also ask in #ubuntu-beginners and/or #ubuntu
[04:52] <holstein> this is not studio specific
[04:52] <holstein> and im about to head out for the evening
[04:53] <tlm> nah, this is the first, since I've hated every other desktop other then Gnome2, waited for the PPA instead of building it
[04:56] <tlm> holstein Didn't know theres a beginners room? I only know enough to do something stupid then accidentally fix it... Yeah I know, but I've got the worst luck on #ubuntu for getting any reply
[04:56] <tlm> even a fsck of
[04:58] <holstein> tlm: right, but im leaving
[04:58] <holstein> no one else is here
[04:58] <tlm> K
[04:58] <holstein> so, try the beginners room
[04:58] <holstein> #ubuntu-beginners
[04:58] <holstein> thats where they'll help
[04:58] <holstein> hopefully
[04:58] <holstein> i would purge the PPA's
[04:58] <holstein> try and get a clean batch op package
[04:58] <holstein> s
[04:59] <holstein> i would get rid of those 2 there in that error message you linked
[04:59] <holstein> that might be enough
[04:59] <holstein> anyways... GN :)