| antnash | I don't know why this is bothering me so much. I'm doing pretty much everything via cli | 00:02 |
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| babble | oh, now I want to find out where the heck they are. hehe. | 00:04 |
| babble | well, bugger. | 00:05 |
| babble | it's in there SOMEwhere. | 00:05 |
| babble | can you get a context menu on right click? | 00:05 |
| babble | even though you're over a vnc connection? | 00:06 |
| babble | antnash: still here? | 00:12 |
| antnash | sorry | 00:15 |
| antnash | hanging up washing again | 00:15 |
| babble | no worries. | 00:15 |
| babble | I figured it was something :) | 00:15 |
| babble | can you get a file menu in thunar over vnc? | 00:16 |
| antnash | Yup | 00:16 |
| babble | select an item, do File > Send to > Side Pane | 00:16 |
| babble | can you get a context menu on right click in Thunar? | 00:16 |
| antnash | aha! | 00:17 |
| antnash | Nice one! | 00:17 |
| babble | if you can get the contextual menu, you can remove bookmarked items in the side pane that way | 00:17 |
| babble | if drags are being wonky over VNC | 00:17 |
| antnash | I have had a few issues with vnc | 00:18 |
| babble | everybody does :) | 00:18 |
| babble | hehe | 00:18 |
| antnash | Working pretty good now tho | 00:18 |
| antnash | Although I still have some issues with gksu apps | 00:19 |
| babble | having issues with the overlay dialog? | 00:19 |
| antnash | instead of asking for password once when opening, the software center asks for a password every time I try to do something. | 00:19 |
| babble | that's. hmm. | 00:20 |
| babble | odd. | 00:20 |
| babble | hehe | 00:20 |
| babble | brb. I need to go clean up something | 00:20 |
| antnash | But as I said, I'm doing most in ssh | 00:20 |
| DoverOs | zomg, i can't seem to install xubuntu on my whitebox | 00:21 |
| DoverOs | it has nvidia gpu | 00:21 |
| DoverOs | i tried disabling nouveau and selinux, but it still hangs up | 00:25 |
| babble | back | 00:28 |
| babble | for a few | 00:28 |
| babble | heh | 00:28 |
| babble | reinstalling my system after making a mess of things with gnome shell. | 00:28 |
| babble | and it's done. heh. brb | 00:31 |
| DoverOs | gnome shell is fuckery | 00:31 |
| babble | lordy, I do like relinux :) | 00:31 |
| babble | ...and yeah, I keep trying to like Gnome Shell | 00:35 |
| babble | but eh. | 00:35 |
| babble | I have options. hehe. | 00:35 |
| DoverOs | gnome 3 that is, i like the tiling, but that's it | 00:35 |
| babble | now that I'm living in Xfce, I'm trying to wean myself from having compiz installed just for the sake of it. heh. | 00:36 |
| DoverOs | babble: ya uh, any thoughts on why xubuntu livecd doesn't run on my whitebox? | 00:37 |
| babble | well, hmm. | 00:37 |
| DoverOs | i tried disabling nouveau and selinux, but didn't help | 00:37 |
| babble | you've tried the usual boot options at the grub commandline to disable acpi and declare linux? | 00:37 |
| DoverOs | and i set the acpi=off | 00:37 |
| babble | hrm. | 00:38 |
| DoverOs | there are some more acpi boxes though | 00:38 |
| babble | can you get to a grub commandline? | 00:38 |
| babble | maybe it'll boot manually | 00:38 |
| babble | (does it run from current Ubuntu or Kubuntu LiveCD's?) | 00:38 |
| DoverOs | atm it has kubuntu installed :P | 00:39 |
| babble | huh. | 00:39 |
| DoverOs | but dunno how that could mess it up | 00:39 |
| babble | no, I'm just wondering off the top of my head if there's more QA that happens on the KDE and Ubuntu build teams, since they're larger. | 00:40 |
| babble | you could go the long way around and install xubuntu-desktop and uninstall the KDE bits you don't want. | 00:41 |
| babble | (unless you'd rather just keep both, naturally) | 00:41 |
| DoverOs | xP | 00:41 |
| babble | heh | 00:41 |
| babble | anyway, can you get to a grub prompt? maybe you can get it to boot manually | 00:41 |
| DoverOs | err ya i could try that | 00:42 |
| babble | I can walk you through if you've never done it (I have a couple of times. heh.) | 00:42 |
| DoverOs | i could also try the 64bit version, but holy jeebus who knows that kinda bugs that has | 00:42 |
| babble | (but only a couple) | 00:42 |
| babble | I'm running Xubuntu 11.10-64 bit | 00:43 |
| babble | I haven't had trouble | 00:43 |
| babble | at least, not trouble I can't trace to me doing something dumb :) | 00:43 |
| DoverOs | oh haha | 00:43 |
| DoverOs | ok i'll try the x64 first, and then the grub after that | 00:43 |
| babble | cool beans. | 00:44 |
| babble | sec. | 00:44 |
| babble | bookmark here: | 00:44 |
| babble | http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?t=152790 | 00:44 |
| babble | he's doing a comparison between Grub1 and Grub2, but you want the boot instructions for Grub2 | 00:44 |
| DoverOs | i did a sda type boot with grub before | 00:45 |
| babble | I guess it could be an odd drive controller bug | 00:46 |
| babble | but I don't have any quick fixes off the top of my head. | 00:46 |
| DoverOs | babble: thank's a ton for the info. i'll get it working. g2g | 00:46 |
| w30 | babble, I run compiz on xfce4; scratches my itch *smile* | 00:46 |
| babble | w30: hehe. I'm getting used to actually getting work done on my machine instead of watching windows wiggle ;) | 00:47 |
| w30 | babble, make a couple of launcher icon so you can switch back and forth | 00:48 |
| babble | oh, have done. | 00:48 |
| babble | at this point, I'm comfy enough with just plain ole xfwm that I've chucked compiz for now. | 00:48 |
| babble | if I get bored and need whizzy, I'll install it again. | 00:48 |
| w30 | compiz is supposed to run when a Windows 7 user is looking over your shoulder anyway | 00:49 |
| babble | haha | 00:49 |
| babble | My brother likes Vista, and my other computer is a Macintosh, so that's not likely to happen. | 00:50 |
| w30 | babble, Windows 7 is just sp4 for Vista or shuda been. | 00:51 |
| babble | eh, I don't judge | 00:51 |
| babble | he likes Vista, he can like what he likes. | 00:51 |
| babble | there had to be at least a few people who actually *liked* Vista. heh. | 00:52 |
| babble | Heck, there were about five Mac users who liked Puma. | 00:52 |
| w30 | I can't afford Windows, sigh. | 00:53 |
| S_SubZero | i liked aspects of Vista. Well, I mean I miss them since they were yanked out of Win7 | 00:53 |
| babble | hm. can I manually install gnome tweak to set my gtk3 themes for gtk3-depenent apps without installing the crapload of its dependencies in the repo? | 00:53 |
| babble | (I mean, yes, I know, I technically can. What will I break when I do?) | 00:54 |
| w30 | babble, I have a copy of Windows 3.1 but it's getting obsolete | 00:54 |
| babble | heh. I run XP in a vm for the odd bit of work-ware I can't easily get in Linux | 00:54 |
| R3db3ard | anyone know how to get Steam running in Xubuntu11.10? | 01:06 |
| babble | there's a PlayOnLinux config for Steam, but beyond getting Steam to launch, I've never actually gotten a single game to run | 01:06 |
| R3db3ard | i had it running quite well in ubuntu 11.04 but can't get the installer to run in x11.10 | 01:14 |
| holstein | R3db3ard: you could start with mirroring the wine version | 01:15 |
| R3db3ard | right now i'm uninstalling v1.3 and trying v1.2.3 and installing winetricks to see if that works | 01:17 |
| luvchunk | hello | 01:33 |
| luvchunk | anybody here | 01:33 |
| holstein | luvchunk: not sure... let knock and see if anyone answers... | 01:34 |
| luvchunk | im gettin no sound been through all the help pages and cant fix it | 01:37 |
| holstein | do you want to fix it? | 01:37 |
| holstein | open a terminal | 01:37 |
| holstein | run a few commands for me | 01:38 |
| holstein | first, is it the internal sound card? | 01:38 |
| luvchunk | yeah no probs | 01:38 |
| luvchunk | yes it is | 01:38 |
| holstein | run lspci and see that you see it there | 01:38 |
| holstein | then, if you see it there, run.. | 01:38 |
| holstein | aplay -l | 01:38 |
| luvchunk | its sees it with the first command | 01:39 |
| luvchunk | and no soundcards on the second | 01:40 |
| luvchunk | 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) | 01:40 |
| holstein | luvchunk: if it were me, at this point, i typically try a few live CD's til sound works | 01:41 |
| holstein | i note the kernel and alsa versions | 01:41 |
| holstein | you can step forward or back with ALSA and see if that helps | 01:41 |
| luvchunk | okiedoke thanks | 01:42 |
| holstein | luvchunk: what is the device line from lspci? | 01:42 |
| luvchunk | yeah | 01:42 |
| holstein | this is mine 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) | 01:43 |
| holstein | what is yours? | 01:43 |
| holstein | luvchunk: also, check and make sure you are up to date with pacakge upgrades.. sometimes a rev can be in there that fixes things | 01:44 |
| luvchunk | 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) | 01:44 |
| luvchunk | Subsystem: Uniwill Computer Corp Device 907f | 01:44 |
| luvchunk | Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10 | 01:44 |
| luvchunk | Memory at fe9f8000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] | 01:44 |
| luvchunk | Capabilities: <access denied> | 01:44 |
| luvchunk | il check for upgrades now | 01:44 |
| holstein | luvchunk: that is your device too? | 01:45 |
| holstein | the n10/ICH 7 ? | 01:45 |
| luvchunk | yeah | 01:45 |
| holstein | interesting | 01:45 |
| holstein | its working just fine here | 01:45 |
| holstein | xubuntu 11.10 | 01:45 |
| holstein | so, i think its going to be something in your config | 01:45 |
| luvchunk | i switched from ubuntu this morning it worked on that but nothing on xubuntu | 01:46 |
| holstein | luvchunk: all i can say is, i have xubuntu 11.10, and that hardware and its working | 01:46 |
| holstein | what have you done so far? | 01:46 |
| luvchunk | im not really very good with all this im pretty new to it all | 01:47 |
| holstein | luvchunk: no worries | 01:49 |
| holstein | this'll help | 01:49 |
| holstein | ubuntu = xubuntu | 01:49 |
| holstein | you have the same packages on the backend there to support the hardware | 01:50 |
| holstein | i would put the live CD in you installed from, and see if you have sound | 01:50 |
| holstein | take the live CD you used before when you say it worked, and see if it still works | 01:50 |
| holstein | check the bios | 01:50 |
| holstein | check the hardware | 01:50 |
| holstein | when i mute, i cant unmute from the keyboard button, i *must* unmute elsewhere | 01:51 |
| luvchunk | il have a go thanks again nice of you to help | 01:51 |
| holstein | luvchunk: anytime | 01:51 |
| R3db3ard | i wish xubuntu would have kept the same keyboard shortcuts as ubuntu | 02:06 |
| R3db3ard | i'm lost | 02:06 |
| genii-around | !support | 03:30 |
| ubottu | As most of the Ubuntu channels, #xubuntu is English only. A list of the localized Ubuntu channels can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList#line-80. These channels will most probably be able to give Xubuntu support too. For alternative Xubuntu support options, please see http://xubuntu.org/help/. | 03:30 |
| * genii-around hands Unit193 a coffee | 03:30 | |
| Unit193 | genii-around: Thanks :D | 03:31 |
| genii-around | Heh | 03:31 |
| Unit193 | genii-around: This is a nice factoid, but saying something about askubuntu and the forums is handy | 03:31 |
| genii-around | Unit193: I made a note to make a note of it on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/FactoidCleanup tomorrow | 03:34 |
| Unit193 | genii-around: Great! | 03:35 |
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| problemo | hey , i rstarted xubuntu and theres no windoes manager settings its gone, plus the handle bar for all the windows is also gone too, so i cant move windows or resize them,also my space of fout available workspaces reduced down to only one, the only things i installed was awesome that could have messed up my windows managers, any help? | 09:31 |
| well_laid_lawn | problemo: awesome is a window manager that doesn't have window decorations | 09:35 |
| TheSheep | problemo: alt+f2 an type xfwm4 | 09:35 |
| problemo | ouo magic | 09:36 |
| problemo | was it removed from init script? | 09:37 |
| TheSheep | it failed to start somehow | 09:37 |
| problemo | hmmm | 09:37 |
| problemo | well it failed to start 3-4 times | 09:37 |
| TheSheep | check ~/.xsessionerrors | 09:38 |
| problemo | assertion `WNCK_IS_WORKSPACE failed, hmm says another instance is already running, i should check | 09:42 |
| problemo | xfce4-panel: No window manager registered on screen 0 | 09:43 |
| problemo | and it goes on with same type of mesgs | 09:43 |
| problemo | but theres only one instance of wfwm running, the one i started earlier from terminal | 09:44 |
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| juiceman5000 | What's the mimimum space you'd say to partition for an install of XUbuntu? | 16:03 |
| Sysi | three minutes | 16:06 |
| tjingboem_ | where can i change the name of the computer ? | 16:22 |
| babble | tjingboem_: do you need to change your hostname (the way your computer identifies itself on your network?) | 16:36 |
| tjingboem_ | when i use the terminal i see: menno@menno-Sheeks-Northwood-Brookdale-Customer-Reference-Board:~$ | 16:39 |
| tjingboem_ | waaaaaaayyyy too long | 16:40 |
| tjingboem_ | can i rename this? | 16:40 |
| babble | tjingboem_: with root priveliges (i.e. sudo <your text editor>) edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts | 16:40 |
| babble | that will change the hostname that loads at startup | 16:40 |
| Sysi | *gksudo | 16:40 |
| babble | if you want the change to become active now, also do: | 16:41 |
| babble | sudo hostname <new hostname> | 16:41 |
| babble | if you're in Xubuntu, you should have Leafpad or Mousepad installed | 16:41 |
| NIX-Knight | hello, I have 48 computers in my office that are used to conduct tests for candidates using a web browser, I have Windows XP installed with firefox on them but they are heavily infested with viruses, All systems are Pentium 3 with 128MB RAM | 17:12 |
| NIX-Knight | would xubuntu be a good alternative in this situation | 17:13 |
| NIX-Knight | ? | 17:13 |
| Sysi | not really | 17:13 |
| NIX-Knight | OK, then what would you recommend? | 17:13 |
| Sysi | any modern webbrowser eats that 128Mb by itself | 17:13 |
| NIX-Knight | hmm | 17:13 |
| Sysi | lubuntu+chromium could work, with one tab | 17:14 |
| NIX-Knight | ok | 17:14 |
| NIX-Knight | thanx | 17:14 |
| NIX-Knight | Sysi, the developers of that test recommend firefox, what if I install xubuntu 10.04 which has firefox 3.6? | 17:31 |
| Sysi | you should have at least 256MB, but you can try | 17:31 |
| NIX-Knight | OK thank you | 17:32 |
| xubuntu829 | hi folks | 17:52 |
| xubuntu829 | wow... nice setup-feature :D | 17:52 |
| S_SubZero | hi | 17:54 |
| dboyd | I'm having some trouble running the Ubuntu Software Center. It will not install or ask for a password or anything else. It just ignores me. any clues anyone? | 20:39 |
| TheSheep | how are you installing it? | 20:43 |
| ubuntu | hello, I'm trying xubuntu 11.04 from an usb-livecd and firefox does not start, also package manager says I'm not connected to the internet, any ideas? | 20:48 |
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| joao | Hi. I just got a new Lenovo Ideapad laptop with an Intel i.7 and 8Gb of RAM memory. I would like to install Xubuntu 11.10 on it, but I am confused about which variety to install: "PC (Intel x86) desktop CD" or "64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD". I would like to take advantage of the 8Gb of Ram memory, and I was told that I would need a 64-bit installation for that. Does that mean I should choose "64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD", even thou | 20:49 |
| joao | gh my processor is Intel? | 20:49 |
| TheSheep | ubuntu: what does firefox say when you try to start it from terminal? | 20:50 |
| TheSheep | joao: yes, intel's 64 bit processors are also amd-compatible | 20:50 |
| ubuntu | okay that's embarrasing TheSheep, it starts from terminal and seems to work fine now, thanks -.-u | 20:51 |
| TheSheep | joao: it just so happens that it's amd that created this standard architecture | 20:51 |
| joao | oh I see. I'll go ahead with the AMD64 version then. Thanks for clearing this up | 20:52 |
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| holstein | can i use notify-osd with xubuntu/XFCE ? | 22:05 |
| babble | holstein: is Xfce's own notifications daemon not a good solution? | 22:08 |
| holstein | babble: i like the click through with composite | 22:09 |
| babble | ah. | 22:09 |
| holstein | not a deal breaker, but its something id like to address if its do-able | 22:09 |
| babble | well, I just checked, and lo and behold, I've got notifyosd installed as well | 22:10 |
| babble | sec. lemme see if it's all running | 22:10 |
| babble | (I've installed and deinstalled various gnome bits, so there's that) | 22:10 |
| holstein | cool, it works... notify-osd just took over | 22:18 |
| holstein | and its like normal-buntu with compiz... | 22:18 |
| w30 | Intel rents the 64 bit architecture from AMD *ha* | 22:23 |
| babble | hurgh. | 22:24 |
| babble | finally? | 22:24 |
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