[00:02] I don't know why this is bothering me so much. I'm doing pretty much everything via cli [00:04] oh, now I want to find out where the heck they are. hehe. [00:05] well, bugger. [00:05] it's in there SOMEwhere. [00:05] can you get a context menu on right click? [00:06] even though you're over a vnc connection? [00:12] antnash: still here? [00:15] sorry [00:15] hanging up washing again [00:15] no worries. [00:15] I figured it was something :) [00:16] can you get a file menu in thunar over vnc? [00:16] Yup [00:16] select an item, do File > Send to > Side Pane [00:16] can you get a context menu on right click in Thunar? [00:17] aha! [00:17] Nice one! [00:17] if you can get the contextual menu, you can remove bookmarked items in the side pane that way [00:17] if drags are being wonky over VNC [00:18] I have had a few issues with vnc [00:18] everybody does :) [00:18] hehe [00:18] Working pretty good now tho [00:19] Although I still have some issues with gksu apps [00:19] having issues with the overlay dialog? [00:19] instead of asking for password once when opening, the software center asks for a password every time I try to do something. [00:20] that's. hmm. [00:20] odd. [00:20] hehe [00:20] brb. I need to go clean up something [00:20] But as I said, I'm doing most in ssh [00:21] zomg, i can't seem to install xubuntu on my whitebox [00:21] it has nvidia gpu [00:25] i tried disabling nouveau and selinux, but it still hangs up [00:28] back [00:28] for a few [00:28] heh [00:28] reinstalling my system after making a mess of things with gnome shell. [00:31] and it's done. heh. brb [00:31] gnome shell is fuckery [00:31] lordy, I do like relinux :) [00:35] ...and yeah, I keep trying to like Gnome Shell [00:35] but eh. [00:35] I have options. hehe. [00:35] gnome 3 that is, i like the tiling, but that's it [00:36] now that I'm living in Xfce, I'm trying to wean myself from having compiz installed just for the sake of it. heh. [00:37] babble: ya uh, any thoughts on why xubuntu livecd doesn't run on my whitebox? [00:37] well, hmm. [00:37] i tried disabling nouveau and selinux, but didn't help [00:37] you've tried the usual boot options at the grub commandline to disable acpi and declare linux? [00:37] and i set the acpi=off [00:38] hrm. [00:38] there are some more acpi boxes though [00:38] can you get to a grub commandline? [00:38] maybe it'll boot manually [00:38] (does it run from current Ubuntu or Kubuntu LiveCD's?) [00:39] atm it has kubuntu installed :P [00:39] huh. [00:39] but dunno how that could mess it up [00:40] no, I'm just wondering off the top of my head if there's more QA that happens on the KDE and Ubuntu build teams, since they're larger. [00:41] you could go the long way around and install xubuntu-desktop and uninstall the KDE bits you don't want. [00:41] (unless you'd rather just keep both, naturally) [00:41] xP [00:41] heh [00:41] anyway, can you get to a grub prompt? maybe you can get it to boot manually [00:42] err ya i could try that [00:42] I can walk you through if you've never done it (I have a couple of times. heh.) [00:42] i could also try the 64bit version, but holy jeebus who knows that kinda bugs that has [00:42] (but only a couple) [00:43] I'm running Xubuntu 11.10-64 bit [00:43] I haven't had trouble [00:43] at least, not trouble I can't trace to me doing something dumb :) [00:43] oh haha [00:43] ok i'll try the x64 first, and then the grub after that [00:44] cool beans. [00:44] sec. [00:44] bookmark here: [00:44] http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?t=152790 [00:44] he's doing a comparison between Grub1 and Grub2, but you want the boot instructions for Grub2 [00:45] i did a sda type boot with grub before [00:46] I guess it could be an odd drive controller bug [00:46] but I don't have any quick fixes off the top of my head. [00:46] babble: thank's a ton for the info. i'll get it working. g2g [00:46] babble, I run compiz on xfce4; scratches my itch *smile* [00:47] w30: hehe. I'm getting used to actually getting work done on my machine instead of watching windows wiggle ;) [00:48] babble, make a couple of launcher icon so you can switch back and forth [00:48] oh, have done. [00:48] at this point, I'm comfy enough with just plain ole xfwm that I've chucked compiz for now. [00:48] if I get bored and need whizzy, I'll install it again. [00:49] compiz is supposed to run when a Windows 7 user is looking over your shoulder anyway [00:49] haha [00:50] My brother likes Vista, and my other computer is a Macintosh, so that's not likely to happen. [00:51] babble, Windows 7 is just sp4 for Vista or shuda been. [00:51] eh, I don't judge [00:51] he likes Vista, he can like what he likes. [00:52] there had to be at least a few people who actually *liked* Vista. heh. [00:52] Heck, there were about five Mac users who liked Puma. [00:53] I can't afford Windows, sigh. [00:53] i liked aspects of Vista. Well, I mean I miss them since they were yanked out of Win7 [00:53] hm. can I manually install gnome tweak to set my gtk3 themes for gtk3-depenent apps without installing the crapload of its dependencies in the repo? [00:54] (I mean, yes, I know, I technically can. What will I break when I do?) [00:54] babble, I have a copy of Windows 3.1 but it's getting obsolete [00:54] heh. I run XP in a vm for the odd bit of work-ware I can't easily get in Linux [01:06] anyone know how to get Steam running in Xubuntu11.10? [01:06] there's a PlayOnLinux config for Steam, but beyond getting Steam to launch, I've never actually gotten a single game to run [01:14] i had it running quite well in ubuntu 11.04 but can't get the installer to run in x11.10 [01:15] R3db3ard: you could start with mirroring the wine version [01:17] right now i'm uninstalling v1.3 and trying v1.2.3 and installing winetricks to see if that works [01:33] hello [01:33] anybody here [01:34] luvchunk: not sure... let knock and see if anyone answers... [01:37] im gettin no sound been through all the help pages and cant fix it [01:37] do you want to fix it? [01:37] open a terminal [01:38] run a few commands for me [01:38] first, is it the internal sound card? [01:38] yeah no probs [01:38] yes it is [01:38] run lspci and see that you see it there [01:38] then, if you see it there, run.. [01:38] aplay -l [01:39] its sees it with the first command [01:40] and no soundcards on the second [01:40] 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) [01:41] luvchunk: if it were me, at this point, i typically try a few live CD's til sound works [01:41] i note the kernel and alsa versions [01:41] you can step forward or back with ALSA and see if that helps [01:42] okiedoke thanks [01:42] luvchunk: what is the device line from lspci? [01:42] yeah [01:43] this is mine 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) [01:43] what is yours? [01:44] luvchunk: also, check and make sure you are up to date with pacakge upgrades.. sometimes a rev can be in there that fixes things [01:44] 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) [01:44] Subsystem: Uniwill Computer Corp Device 907f [01:44] Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10 [01:44] Memory at fe9f8000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] [01:44] Capabilities: [01:44] il check for upgrades now [01:45] luvchunk: that is your device too? [01:45] the n10/ICH 7 ? [01:45] yeah [01:45] interesting [01:45] its working just fine here [01:45] xubuntu 11.10 [01:45] so, i think its going to be something in your config [01:46] i switched from ubuntu this morning it worked on that but nothing on xubuntu [01:46] luvchunk: all i can say is, i have xubuntu 11.10, and that hardware and its working [01:46] what have you done so far? [01:47] im not really very good with all this im pretty new to it all [01:49] luvchunk: no worries [01:49] this'll help [01:49] ubuntu = xubuntu [01:50] you have the same packages on the backend there to support the hardware [01:50] i would put the live CD in you installed from, and see if you have sound [01:50] take the live CD you used before when you say it worked, and see if it still works [01:50] check the bios [01:50] check the hardware [01:51] when i mute, i cant unmute from the keyboard button, i *must* unmute elsewhere [01:51] il have a go thanks again nice of you to help [01:51] luvchunk: anytime [02:06] i wish xubuntu would have kept the same keyboard shortcuts as ubuntu [02:06] i'm lost [03:30] !support [03:30] As most of the Ubuntu channels, #xubuntu is English only. A list of the localized Ubuntu channels can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList#line-80. These channels will most probably be able to give Xubuntu support too. For alternative Xubuntu support options, please see http://xubuntu.org/help/. [03:30] * genii-around hands Unit193 a coffee [03:31] genii-around: Thanks :D [03:31] Heh [03:31] genii-around: This is a nice factoid, but saying something about askubuntu and the forums is handy [03:34] Unit193: I made a note to make a note of it on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/FactoidCleanup tomorrow [03:35] genii-around: Great! === Guest69301 is now known as epzil0n === epzil0n is now known as Guest63461 [09:31] hey , i rstarted xubuntu and theres no windoes manager settings its gone, plus the handle bar for all the windows is also gone too, so i cant move windows or resize them,also my space of fout available workspaces reduced down to only one, the only things i installed was awesome that could have messed up my windows managers, any help? [09:35] problemo: awesome is a window manager that doesn't have window decorations [09:35] problemo: alt+f2 an type xfwm4 [09:36] ouo magic [09:37] was it removed from init script? [09:37] it failed to start somehow [09:37] hmmm [09:37] well it failed to start 3-4 times [09:38] check ~/.xsessionerrors [09:42] assertion `WNCK_IS_WORKSPACE failed, hmm says another instance is already running, i should check [09:43] xfce4-panel: No window manager registered on screen 0 [09:43] and it goes on with same type of mesgs [09:44] but theres only one instance of wfwm running, the one i started earlier from terminal === peer7 is now known as peerAU === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [16:03] What's the mimimum space you'd say to partition for an install of XUbuntu? [16:06] three minutes [16:22] where can i change the name of the computer ? [16:36] tjingboem_: do you need to change your hostname (the way your computer identifies itself on your network?) [16:39] when i use the terminal i see: menno@menno-Sheeks-Northwood-Brookdale-Customer-Reference-Board:~$ [16:40] waaaaaaayyyy too long [16:40] can i rename this? [16:40] tjingboem_: with root priveliges (i.e. sudo ) edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts [16:40] that will change the hostname that loads at startup [16:40] *gksudo [16:41] if you want the change to become active now, also do: [16:41] sudo hostname [16:41] if you're in Xubuntu, you should have Leafpad or Mousepad installed [17:12] hello, I have 48 computers in my office that are used to conduct tests for candidates using a web browser, I have Windows XP installed with firefox on them but they are heavily infested with viruses, All systems are Pentium 3 with 128MB RAM [17:13] would xubuntu be a good alternative in this situation [17:13] ? [17:13] not really [17:13] OK, then what would you recommend? [17:13] any modern webbrowser eats that 128Mb by itself [17:13] hmm [17:14] lubuntu+chromium could work, with one tab [17:14] ok [17:14] thanx [17:31] Sysi, the developers of that test recommend firefox, what if I install xubuntu 10.04 which has firefox 3.6? [17:31] you should have at least 256MB, but you can try [17:32] OK thank you [17:52] hi folks [17:52] wow... nice setup-feature :D [17:54] hi [20:39] I'm having some trouble running the Ubuntu Software Center. It will not install or ask for a password or anything else. It just ignores me. any clues anyone? [20:43] how are you installing it? [20:48] hello, I'm trying xubuntu 11.04 from an usb-livecd and firefox does not start, also package manager says I'm not connected to the internet, any ideas? === don is now known as Guest77957 [20:49] Hi. I just got a new Lenovo Ideapad laptop with an Intel i.7 and 8Gb of RAM memory. I would like to install Xubuntu 11.10 on it, but I am confused about which variety to install: "PC (Intel x86) desktop CD" or "64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD". I would like to take advantage of the 8Gb of Ram memory, and I was told that I would need a 64-bit installation for that. Does that mean I should choose "64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD", even thou [20:49] gh my processor is Intel? [20:50] ubuntu: what does firefox say when you try to start it from terminal? [20:50] joao: yes, intel's 64 bit processors are also amd-compatible [20:51] okay that's embarrasing TheSheep, it starts from terminal and seems to work fine now, thanks -.-u [20:51] joao: it just so happens that it's amd that created this standard architecture [20:52] oh I see. I'll go ahead with the AMD64 version then. Thanks for clearing this up === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [22:05] can i use notify-osd with xubuntu/XFCE ? [22:08] holstein: is Xfce's own notifications daemon not a good solution? [22:09] babble: i like the click through with composite [22:09] ah. [22:09] not a deal breaker, but its something id like to address if its do-able [22:10] well, I just checked, and lo and behold, I've got notifyosd installed as well [22:10] sec. lemme see if it's all running [22:10] (I've installed and deinstalled various gnome bits, so there's that) [22:18] cool, it works... notify-osd just took over [22:18] and its like normal-buntu with compiz... [22:23] Intel rents the 64 bit architecture from AMD *ha* [22:24] hurgh. [22:24] finally?