[08:45] <Mamarok> I don't remember,did 10.04 already ship Pulseaudio as default?
[09:34] <debfx> Mamarok: no, I think we ship pulseaudio since maverick
[09:44] <Mamarok> debfx: thx, I seemed to remember as well, but was not sure
[13:04] <wendar> bambee: I use quasselcore on a Rackspace cloud instance, soooo sweet to have consistent IRC anywhere, instead of dropping off and on :)
[13:27] <Riddell> fregl: do you know if the qt ubuntu integration session has got a second scheduling?  the bazaar people would like to discuss qt creator
[13:29] <fregl> Riddell: adam wanted to have a tooling session. for some reason it didn't make it onto the schedule. let's get it there.
[14:06] <Riddell> apachelogger: like the new planet kde hackergotchi :)
[14:32] <Daskreech> Does Unity-2d Support RTL?
[14:34] <Riddell> Daskreech: #ubuntu-desktop for ubuntu desktop questions
[14:35] <Daskreech> Riddell: Right of course :)
[14:37] <Riddell> claydoh: "I even had my belly rubbed by a complete stranger who was discussing cups filters." lol, that'll be till :)
[14:39] <claydoh> Riddell: are there really any legal issues with kubuntuforums using the kubuntu logo? I have always wondered about that
[14:40] <claydoh> Riddell: lol yeah, I found out his name later, I wonder if the rubbing brings good luck?
[14:41] <Riddell> claydoh: we encourage use by the community, he should get a trademark licence really "use in a domain name" which is available at no cost, see http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
[14:41] <jussi> no, it forces you to work on cups :P
[14:42] <claydoh> jussi: I was working on a cup of something at the time :)
[14:42] <claydoh> Riddell: thanks
[14:53] <Riddell> work items added to foot of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-kubuntu-packaging
[15:30] <shadeslayer> wendar: yeah, they're probably the older versions :P
[15:30] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: I have a unflashable device as of now
[15:31] <shadeslayer> All I know that it's going to get cracked 'soon'
[15:37] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: :P
[15:37] <shadeslayer> I'm going to try and boot a chroot off it sometime next weekend
[15:38] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: how the heck does one miss a flight from NY O_O
[15:39] <shadeslayer> You take your baggage from one belt and put it on the other, doesn't even take 5 minutes
[15:39] <Quintasan> ahahahahahahahaha
[15:39] <Quintasan> not
[15:39] <Quintasan> with over 300 people in queue
[15:39] <Quintasan> derp
[15:39] <shadeslayer> well, you should have screamed then ^_^
[15:40] <Quintasan> If that's how you do it in India then good luck :P
[15:40] <shadeslayer> "My flight is in x seconds, get out of my way :| "
[15:40] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: thats how they did it in Beijing :P
[15:40] <Quintasan> Cursses
[15:40] <Quintasan> Uncivilised people
[15:40] <Quintasan> :P
[15:40] <shadeslayer> heh
[15:42] <Quintasan> yofel_: shadeslayer what is the status of kde 4.7.3?
[15:42] <shadeslayer> I don't have the slightest idea
[15:42] <shadeslayer> I've been busy with my GRE and stuff
[15:43] <shadeslayer> and then there are representatives from Universities coming tomorrow, have to go talk to them about my scores tomorrow
[17:23] <bambee> wendar: you don't need a cloud for that, you just need a server :)
[18:07] <DarkwingUDS> Quintasan: pingie
[18:08] <Quintasan> DarkwingUDS: pong
[18:08] <DarkwingUDS> were we meeting for something during the planetaries?
[18:08] <claydoh_> Quintasan: 
[18:08] <claydoh_> ping
[18:08] <Quintasan> DarkwingUDS: I prosposed we process some of the notes into work items
[18:09] <DarkwingUDS> where u @?
[18:09] <Quintasan> Bonaire rooms hall
[18:09] <DarkwingUDS> who wit u
[18:09] <Quintasan> Chillin in an armchair
[18:09] <Quintasan> Noone, reading books
[18:09] <DarkwingUDS> s/wit/with/
[18:09] <claydoh_> im on my way, rbelem is borrowing my phone
[18:09] <DarkwingUDS> kubotu  missing? :(
[18:09] <Quintasan> He is still up? :O
[18:10] <DarkwingUDS> LOL
[18:10] <Quintasan> rbelem: I thought you went for your afternoon Rodrigo
[18:11] <jussi> hahaha
[18:11] <claydoh_> lol no hes awake
[18:11] <jussi> I forgot about pulling a rodrigo untill I saw Quintasan's blog with the upsidedown rodrigo...
[18:12] <Quintasan> jussi: I just couldn't get the friggin rotation done correctly
[18:12] <Quintasan> fckin android
[18:12] <jussi> lol
[18:12] <Quintasan> it was showing the picture normally when it was upside down
[18:12] <Quintasan> then when I rotated it maually it rerotated it
[18:13] <Quintasan> so it was still upside down
[18:13] <Quintasan> Curses
[18:15] <DarkwingUDS> You know you can rotate a picture in CSS right?
[19:16] <spartan779> Hallo!
[19:22] <spartan779> I have 2 wi-fi devices (one usb hi-power and the integrated). The problem is this: starting with together the devices disconnected i click on hi-power and sect an essid to link with. After done this happens that the integrated wifi tries to link to the same essid. And this happens also if an essid or a series of essid are marked as connect automatically. So, is there a way to avoid that the network manager tries to connect to 
[19:22] <spartan779> not connected interface when one of these is connected?
[19:41] <Quintasan> spartan779: ask in #kubuntu, this isdevelopment channel
[19:41] <spartan779> no one anwer me about this
[19:41] <spartan779> :(
[19:42] <BarkingFish> spartan779: come back into #kubuntu and i will try and help you. You'll need to repost your question though, as I've not long joined.
[19:50] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: perfect "Awww yeaaaah" face @ dr. pepper: http://blogs.kde.org/node/4496
[19:50] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: I know, that's what I aimed for :D
[19:51] <Quintasan> I presume you are going to show up on the Muon session, don't you JontheEchidna ?
[19:51] <Quintasan> :p
[19:51] <JontheEchidna> yep
[20:06] <freeflying> Riddell: do we really need to use ibus within kubuntu, can any alternate be an option?
[20:07] <JontheEchidna> btw, if somebody can get me on a skype call during the session, you guys could hear the sound of my beautiful voice :D
[20:10] <apachelogger> Riddell: thx :)
[20:14] <Riddell> freeflying: well that's what's used everywhere in ubuntu no?  so that's the obvious choice
[20:15] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I've assigned Dragon Player investiagation to you since you are master overlord of MM magic
[20:15] <apachelogger> investigation?
[20:15] <Quintasan> apachelogger: QML version of Dragon
[20:15] <apachelogger> what is there to investigate?
[20:16] <apachelogger> I shall hope the work item for that is better formulated than this :O
[20:16] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I think it is lol
[20:17] <JontheEchidna> next session in Bonaire 4?
[20:18] <Riddell> hi jo
[20:18] <Riddell> hi JontheEchidna
[20:18] <JontheEchidna> hello
[20:19] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: btw I have a superb amarok script with listing of all rooms
[20:19] <apachelogger> actually it might not be all rooms because the script is from last florida UDS ^^
[20:22] <apachelogger> Quintasan: your PA is probably configured inproperly
[20:34] <freeflying> Riddell:then how about kimpanel/kimtoy? made the decision?
[21:00] <yofel> Quintasan: 4.7.3: unless someone did something without me noticing: nothing uploaded for precise and oneiric isn't completely done yet
[21:00] <Quintasan> I see
[21:00] <Quintasan> that's partly good news
[21:01] <yofel> ?
[21:01] <Quintasan> \o/
[21:01] <Quintasan> I mean, we can upload once I get home :P
[21:04] <yofel> well sure, I'll try to finish oneiric today, after that won't be much online till sunday - maybe I'll be there to publish the oneiric PPA package tomorrow evening
[21:04] <yofel> *packages
[21:04] <JontheEchidna> here's the rough prototype of the new updater: http://i.imgur.com/4kd4F.png
[21:04] <JontheEchidna> the pic's a bit old, so I'll post a new one when I get home
[21:06] <yofel> I guess I'm too advanced to hope a GUI dialog would tell me the information I want on first sight... (esp. both versions, like aptitude does)
[21:06] <yofel> otherwise not too bad
[21:06] <yofel> JontheEchidna: sorry, I missed the muon session, got the notes somewhere?
[21:07] <JontheEchidna> I don't think we took very many: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/meeting/19619/desktop-p-kubuntu-muon/
[21:07] <JontheEchidna> lol
[21:07] <JontheEchidna> I'll try to write the things down that I remember
[21:08] <yofel> heh
[21:08] <ulysses> o.O overflow, too much information
[21:13] <JontheEchidna> That's all I can remember. If anybody remembers more, please write it in the etherpad
[21:13] <yofel> JontheEchidna: do you plan to make the package manager easier to find? As that causes quite a bit of confusion
[21:13] <Riddell> http://pad.ubuntu.com/desktop-p-kubuntu-muon
[21:14] <Riddell> hmm, multiple notes
[21:14] <Riddell> my fault really
[21:14] <yofel> Riddell: uhm... why isn't that linked from teh UDS schedule?
[21:14] <Riddell> yofel: it is, if you click on the session name
[21:15] <yofel> oh great, I always clicked on the notes icon of the schedule
[21:15] <yofel> which sends you to the other pad
[21:15] <yofel> *of the session
[21:15] <Riddell> yes I should have just used that but I didn't know it existed when I registered the sessions
[21:17] <yofel> nah, now I at least know where to look :)
[21:17] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: new updater UI looks good
[21:18] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: I wonder if a tree view is the best way for it though, I think something like the larger headers used in e.g. system settings would be nicer and then a list below them
[21:19] <apachelogger> make the list in QtQuick
[21:19] <apachelogger> should be easy enough
[21:19] <apachelogger> oh, actually NVM me, that would introduce LTR difficulties
[21:20] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: one interesting feature I see in the ubuntu update manager is a notice that it's safer to plug in your laptop
[21:22] <Riddell> does oxygen-gtk theme work for others?  doesn't seem to here
[21:22] <yofel> Riddell: for gtk2 yes, the gtk3 one isn't packaged (if there even is a release)
[21:24] <yofel> I've got the gtk3 one to work with gtk3 apps, for gnome3 apps it works, but ignores my color scheme
[21:24] <Riddell> ah, I guess that's it
[21:24] <Riddell> so we should have a work item to investigate that
[21:32] <Riddell> freeflying: we'll take a decision on kimpanel or kimtoy based on wither we can get either to work then which works better if they do
[21:32] <Riddell> your feedback on that would be great :)
[21:35] <yofel> btw. - when did kdenetwork get split? (either it didn't or I missed something)
[21:35] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: what does File -> Read Markings do?
[21:36] <Riddell> yofel: you're right, it didn't
[21:37] <yofel> Riddell: I'll fix the blueprint
[21:39] <Riddell> ta
[21:40] <Riddell> claydoh: hmm, I think the syntax for unassigned work items is empty square brackets "[]"
[21:40] <claydoh> kk
[21:46] <yofel> Riddell: not sure about the unassigned ones, but the assigned ones need to have the Launchpad ID as assignee
[21:47] <claydoh> what are we doing for dinner??
[21:51] <Riddell> I'm at a canonical dinner so I'm afraid I'm not doing organising tonight
[21:58] <claydoh> Quintasan: DarkwingUDS whats for dinner , or ideas?
[22:03] <Riddell> agateau, rbelem: anything to be added to work items in desktop-p-kubuntu-filesharing?
[22:11] <bulldog98> yofel: were will 4.7.3 for oneiric land in?
[22:11] <yofel> updates ppa
[22:12] <yofel> after that oneiric-updates
[22:13] <bulldog98> yofel: when to await?
[22:13] <bulldog98> in the updates ppa?
[22:14] <yofel> tomorrow.. maybe, I'm not publishing that without some regression testing. And the test results on the wiki page are empty so  far. Some packages are still building anyway I think
[22:14] <bulldog98> yofel: sure
[22:15] <Quintasan> claydoh: I'm going to keysigning
[22:15] <Quintasan> 19:15 is fine with you?
[22:15] <Quintasan> I could go to chinese food again
[22:15] <claydoh> Quintasan: sure, any ideas on what you want to eat
[22:17] <claydoh> pizza, thats waht afiestas and rbelem I are planning
[22:19] <claydoh> pizza from the hotel
[22:20] <apachelogger> claydoh: beer
[22:23] <claydoh> apachelogger: you can have mine beer is nasty
[22:24] <bulldog98> yofel: I might find some testers tomorrow, would you mind putting the packages to staging?
[22:24] <apachelogger> G
[22:24] <yofel> bulldog98: fine with me once everything's built - I'll add kde-l10n to it too
[22:25] <bulldog98> yofel: sure that was intended to be interpreted like that :)
[22:25] <yofel> :)
[22:26] <CIA-56> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-l10n-common-oneiric] Philip Muškovac * 110 * debian/config branch for oneiric
[22:27] <DarkwingUDS> I'll be around here... My allergies are kicking in hardcore
[22:30] <CIA-56> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-l10n-common-oneiric] Philip Muškovac * 111 * debian/ (changelog config) New upstream release (svn: 1261159, type: stable) PPA upload
[22:31] <bulldog98> yofel: can’t we get kde-l10n directly into archive?
[22:33] <apachelogger> DarkwingUDS: do you have notes on starship troopers yet?
[22:37] <Quintasan> claydoh: Ok, it's pizza then
[22:37] <Quintasan> claydoh: Lobby at 1900?
[22:37] <claydoh> Quintasan: yes 
[22:38] <DarkwingUDS> apachelogger: not yet. will have those soon
[22:38] <apachelogger> k
[22:38] <apachelogger> the discussion in the quality session seemed a bit inconclusive
[22:41] <yofel> bulldog98: would still need an SRU, so it's easier to do everything together
[22:42] <bulldog98> ok
[23:04] <Quintasan> claydoh: ping
[23:07] <Quintasan> DarkwingUDS: ping
[23:08] <Quintasan> damn
[23:08] <Quintasan> keysigning takes longer I expected
[23:15] <apachelogger> it always does
[23:19] <JontheEchidna> hmm,must have left the IRC connection on my work compy on
[23:19] <JontheEchidna> here's an up-to-date screenshot that fairly well captures the new update UI: ?count=25&after=t3_lu7ta
[23:19] <JontheEchidna> er
[23:19] <JontheEchidna> http://i.imgur.com/EbdoM.png
[23:21] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: ooh, I could use solid and a KMessageWidget to do the unplugged warning. Good idea
[23:22] <BarkingFish> anyone know why there's no netbeans package for oneiric please?  Last release was in natty, some guy in #kubuntu wants to know "why the hell it's not in Kubuntu's repositories" :)
[23:23] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: If you make changes but exit muon before committing them, you have the option to save your markings in a text file, which you can load at a later time
[23:23] <JontheEchidna> BarkingFish: The ubuntu people would probably know better
[23:23] <BarkingFish> okies, I'll ask them then :)
[23:31] <wendar> bambee: yeah, I started on my home servers, but the outbound connection wasn't reliable. The cloud has never let me down yet.
[23:46] <yofel> BarkingFish: tip: if you need to find out what happened to a package, go to it's main page on launchpad (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netbeans) and click on "View full publishing history" at the right - there you'll find out what happened to it, and possibly why
[23:47] <BarkingFish> ok, thanks