[00:11] Hi. Need help with Partition Tables [00:12] Fao1987, whats up with them [00:14] I once tried to use MAC OSX and created a GPT table. Eventually I ended up deleting it and moving back to windows. Someone suggested to use linux. I want to dual boot windows and linux. But the prob is. everytime I try to install linux it doesn't picks up my current partitions. infact it shows me the gpt table which i created for MAC [00:16] what system are you booted into now? [00:17] windows 7 Ultimate x32 [00:17] My partitions are C 65 Gb, D 200 GB, E 200 GB [00:17] can you boot into linux easily? [00:18] Through live CD yes. But I can't install it. Because it is not showing me any of my current drives in GParted [00:20] When I install linux, it shows me sda1 100GB, sda2 320 something GB [00:20] I want you to boot into a live cd and use say gparted [00:20] as far as i can remember i used this partition table for Mac [00:20] then take a picture of your partition table and show us here if you can? [00:20] ok [00:21] philipballew, sudo fdisk -l [00:21] ? [00:21] bobweaver, he's in windows now [00:21] im getting him to ubuntu now [00:22] Sweet [00:22] i'm a total noob. how can I take a picture of my partition table after going into ubuntu? [00:22] Fao1987: i would back everything up [00:23] Fao1987, you can use the command sudo fdisk -l [00:23] I would to back up [00:23] looks like your disk is not as you think it should be [00:23] i would get a gparted live disc, or use gparted from a live CD [00:23] run bobweaver 's code and paste it into here [00:23] get rid of, and resize the partitions as you want them [00:23] then paste here or using paste.ubuntu,com I am also with the guys back up back up back up [00:23] then, the ubuntu installer will just automagically use whats left [00:23] trust holstein he knows what he is talking about [00:24] philipballew: hehe [00:24] we hope [00:24] lol [00:24] we hope [00:24] i dont let the ubuntu installer resize the partions, but theres nothing wrong with letting it [00:24] Fao1987: do you know what i mean? [00:24] you want to make some empty space [00:25] yes I did shrink my D drive in windows [00:25] but thats the prob [00:25] I wanna dual boot [00:25] sure [00:25] When i'm running windows it shows 3 drives [00:25] at any Fao1987 welcome to ubuntu-beginners ! [00:26] so, when you make some empty space, ubuntu will offer to install in the empty space [00:26] but when i run ubunut it shows 2 [00:26] Fao1987 boot a live cd [00:26] or, it will offer to reinstall [00:26] wipe [00:26] it offers to wipe [00:27] it doesn't offer to install alongside windows [00:27] sure [00:27] but there are other drives to choose [00:27] theres a drop down [00:27] anyways, just get ubuntu running live and philipballew can get you where he was talking about [00:27] so you can look at the drive [00:28] i'll be here for a while [00:29] ok [00:29] going offline to boot into ubuntu\ [00:29] Fao1987, cya soon [00:31] quite a few red flags here... we'll see [00:32] hopefully from the live desktop we'll see whats going on, and the installer can start from there too [00:32] assuming he makes it back [00:32] holstein, sure [00:32] I cant wait to see fdisk -l [00:33] im pretty excited to [00:33] who knows what happend with that hackintosh setup though [00:33] :>) [00:33] I just found something that is real cool [00:33] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2008-October/026756.html [00:34] SUPER c0_ol [00:34] well some one names pici showed it to me [00:34] you building your own isos? [00:35] going to try it out [00:36] edit some of the config files [00:37] bodhi showed me live-debin which is awesome but this is unreal [00:37] so cool [00:39] booted into ubuntu [00:39] Fao1987, SWEET [00:40] Fao1987, open a terminal [00:40] open [00:40] type in [00:40] sudo fdisk -l [00:40] there is no password [00:40] just press enter [00:40] !paste | Fao1987 [00:40] Fao1987: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [00:41] ok before doing this. I don't have backup. Should I be doing this? [00:41] you can do this 1st [00:41] whta fdisk -l does is says show me all the thngs that are on the harddrive [00:41] that is what the -l means "list " [00:42] ok [00:43] Fao1987, I am not going to tell you to do anything to mod the harddrive I just want to see the partitions :>) [00:43] ok ok :) [00:44] http://imagebin.org/182166 [00:44] here it is [00:44] sweet Fao1987 [00:45] Fao1987, now [00:45] df -h [00:46] before df - h wanna show you what I was talking about [00:47] the -and h need to be together df-h [00:47] ok this is what gparted shows http://imagebin.org/182168 [00:50] http://imagebin.org/182170 [00:50] thats the other command [00:50] sweet Fao1987 [00:51] good job [00:51] thanks [00:51] now do you want to keep the two partitions that are on there ? [00:51] so any ideas whats wrong? [00:51] yes ofcourse [00:51] I have data on both [00:52] well root mnt is on /dev/sda1 [00:52] what I was trying to do, was resize D drive into giving around 50GB [00:52] do you see the * in the sudo fdisk -l ? under boot [00:52] yes [00:53] that is telling us that sda1 is the one to boot 1st :>) [00:53] ok but why the two partition tables? [00:53] now if we look at it there is only so much space [00:54] its 200 mb [00:54] so we can use a program called grub 2 that is included in ubuntu [00:54] it was created when I installed mac [00:54] grub 2 ok [00:54] but first thing is first back up time [00:54] you have a blank dvd or usb ? [00:55] can't right now. my friend borrowed my 500gig external and I ran out of DVD's yesterday [00:55] ahh no :>) [00:55] didn't know I would be running into a mess :) [00:55] I hear that :>) [00:56] well let me look at it again [00:56] we might be able to use Ubuntu One [00:56] ok [00:56] you get 5gigs of free online storage with ubuntu [00:57] yes I know with Ubuntu 1 [00:58] sweet lets try this [00:58] open terminal [00:58] sudo -i [00:59] ok done [00:59] mount /dev/sda /mnt [00:59] NO [00:59] mount /dev/sda2 /mnt [00:59] PLEASE DO @ND COMMAND [00:59] ping Fao1987 [00:59] 2nd command [00:59] mount /dev/sda2 /mnt [01:00] 2nd command meaning sda2? [01:00] yup [01:00] did that [01:00] now [01:00] cd /mnt/ && ls -al [01:00] paste please [01:01] done that [01:01] need to upload it? [01:01] what ? [01:01] I would like to see /mnt/ [01:01] so in terminal [01:01] I just typed cd /mnt/ && ls -al [01:01] cd /mnt [01:02] oh Sweet [01:02] ok [01:02] could you ubuntu.paste.com PLZ [01:03] http://imagebin.org/182171 [01:03] Thanks ! [01:04] no prob [01:04] I forgot you said that you want to shrink down what partition ? [01:04] D drive [01:04] sda2 or 3 ? [01:04] wait [01:05] sda 3 [01:05] sda 2 has windows on it [01:05] cool [01:05] Yes [01:05] ok you have some choices to make now [01:05] 1 how to back up [01:05] ok shoot [01:06] online or wait [01:06] for dvd or what ever [01:06] now there are a couple of ways to do this with tar packages and what not [01:07] but easy way to do it is make image on windows [01:07] I would rather wait. My net upload speed is way too slow to upload 5 gigs of data [01:07] Good idea [01:07] now as far as sda3 [01:07] there is hackintosh on there ? [01:07] lets take a look please [01:07] open terminal [01:07] no nothing. only songs and stuff [01:07] hackintosh is gone [01:07] umount /mnt [01:08] then [01:08] soryy [01:08] sudo -i [01:08] then [01:08] umount /mnt [01:08] then [01:08] and I already have made an image of windows but it does not include my other stuff [01:08] ahh [01:08] ok [01:08] open terminal [01:09] sudo -i [01:09] done sudo -i next? [01:09] umount /mnt [01:09] then [01:09] mount /dev/sda3 /mnt [01:09] then [01:09] cd /mnt [01:10] tell us when you are there :>) [01:10] i'm there [01:10] ls [01:10] and paste.ubuntu.com [01:11] http://imagebin.org/182172 [01:11] Thanks ! [01:13] Sweet there is like nothing there [01:13] yup [01:13] this is the drive that you would like to shrink ? [01:13] I told you that when I removed hackintosh, I re partitioned whole drive [01:13] and yes this drive is the one [01:14] Great I just want to make sure. Don;t want to give out bad info :>) [01:14] Don't * [01:14] ya right right :) [01:15] ok Now you can shrink this partition down using Gparted [01:15] but you might want to back up first [01:15] ok [01:15] but thats the problem [01:15] Yes that is what you keep saying [01:15] I uploaded this image before http://imagebin.org/182168 [01:16] gparted is not showing these partitions I currently have [01:16] Fao1987, do you know how to use gparted ? [01:16] yes [01:16] of course [01:16] gparted dont lie :>) [01:17] so you can select and move bar to make smaller [01:17] ok ok. Now what am I supposed to do. Gparted is showing one drive as 139 gig and 325 gig [01:17] how do i get the "other" secition to show up when i finger a user ? [01:17] which one is D? The 200 gig partition? [01:18] well which one on windoz is it ? [01:18] windoz is C ? [01:18] no idea [01:18] the hackintosh was on D ? [01:18] yes windows is C. But Gparted is not showing C [01:19] When I installed Hackintosh it was on C [01:19] well we just mounted each partitions and looked to see what was in them [01:19] now C holds windows [01:19] Fao1987: in the upper right, you can select other drives [01:19] so in linux there is no c or d drive [01:19] not that you need to [01:19] yeah, C and D labels are for windows only [01:19] * holstein high-fives bobweaver [01:20] i like the way you do buisness man! [01:20] * bobweaver loves high 5's [01:20] I know that. [01:20] I know the difference between windows and linux [01:20] Fao1987, cool [01:20] Fao1987: thats not a list of drives there [01:20] in gparted [01:20] thats the partitions on one drive [01:20] yes I know [01:20] i think that might be the confusion? [01:20] OK [01:21] Fao1987: whats the deal? [01:21] Fao1987, so [01:21] Please wait [01:21] do you rember when we mounted each one ? [01:21] Fao1987: no hurry :) [01:21] you dont want to mess this up [01:21] you can save a lot of time right now [01:22] hear me out. My current partitions are 100mb, 65gb, 200gb, 200gb [01:22] ok? [01:22] sure [01:22] Fao1987, Do you remember when we did fdisk -l ? [01:22] now look at what g parted is saying [01:22] but, maybe you have tried a resize [01:22] or you had a failed rezise [01:22] you said you tried to resize in windows? [01:23] ive never seen that process [01:23] maybe that failed [01:23] holstein, _1 [01:23] it is sayin that I have 200mb, 139gb, 128mb, 325gb [01:23] sorry +1 [01:23] Fao1987: right [01:23] and thats what i would tend to expect that you have [01:23] Fao1987, fdisk -l dont lie never does [01:24] will even tell if something is funny [01:24] yeah, i have seen gparted spit out funny things [01:24] but not fdisk [01:24] ok [01:24] it'll say something is odd, and report the size [01:24] now when I try to install linux, it shows me what g parted is showing, and doesn't show what fdisk is showing. got it? [01:25] not really [01:25] how can I install linux and where? [01:25] are those not the same? [01:25] no no no [01:25] they are not [01:25] you guys just mounted, were those not in agreement? [01:25] thats why i'm here [01:25] hmmm [01:25] what is wrong with my partition tables [01:25] Fao1987, windoz = sda1 [01:25] in one os it is showing something and in the other its totally differenet [01:25] diffrerent [01:26] sda2 has this stuff on it http://imagebin.org/182172 [01:26] woops that is not right [01:26] lol [01:26] sda 2 = windoz [01:26] sda3 =- http://imagebin.org/182172 [01:27] grab sda3 and shrink it down [01:27] with gparted [01:27] guys in both images of fdisk and gparted check out the size of sda1, 2, 3 and 4 [01:27] maybe then you'll understand [01:27] Fao1987, sda 1 is boot partion right now [01:28] http://imagebin.org/182166 [01:28] http://imagebin.org/182168 [01:28] yeah, i would shrink sda3 [01:28] open both images please [01:28] sure [01:28] and check the size of partitions and compare [01:28] * bobweaver is now looking [01:29] yeah, but if you had a failed attempt in windows [01:29] or if something is half way broken [01:29] i dont know what has happened [01:29] Fao1987, sda1 in gparted is that little green one :>) \ [01:29] yes [01:29] all the way to the left [01:29] OH yeah [01:29] thats expected then [01:29] it is the green one all the way to the left [01:30] how do i view the "other" section of a users information when I user "finger " ? [01:30] that is sda 1 Fao1987 [01:30] linuxnoob: what information are you looking for? [01:30] it is supposed to be 100 mb, but g parted says it is 200 mb [01:30] now check sda2 [01:30] other doesnt mean anything to me, pardon my ignorance linuxnoob [01:31] it is supposed to be 65Gb but gparted says it 139GB [01:31] Fao1987, sda2 has windoz on it :>) [01:32] then check sda3 it is supposed to be 200GB but gparted is saying it is 128mb [01:32] i would tend to believe gparted [01:32] no it says that sda 3 is 200971458 gig [01:32] when i created the user using "adduser" you can add "full name" , "room number", "work phone", "home phone" and "other" when i finger the user it does not show the info i put in for "other [01:32] im not saying you are lying, im just saying, some odd things are happening on that drive [01:33] not gig lol BIG* [01:33] finally sda4 is supposed to be 200 GB as well but noooooooo, gparted says it is 325 gig [01:33] sda4 is 200 gig [01:33] yes this is indeed very odd and thats why i'm unable to install linux [01:33] Fao1987: i would resize [01:34] and install [01:34] holstein, me too [01:34] I did resize and created free space, you wanna guess what happened? [01:34] Fao1987, lets see what is in sda4 [01:34] open terminal [01:34] umount /mnt [01:34] its just games [01:34] ok [01:35] then [01:35] Fao1987, we have gone into each drive and seen what is in there [01:35] we mounted them do you remem,ber ? [01:36] I resized and created free space. But when ubuntu installation came up, it showed 200mb, 139gb, 128mb, 325gb and no free space [01:36] that is ok [01:36] do the install next to other os options [01:36] when I boot back to windows, it says 65gb, 150gb, 50gb free space and 200gb [01:37] * bobweaver knows nothing about windoz [01:37] knowledge of windows is not the point. One partition table is gpt and one is mbr [01:38] why though? [01:38] why gpt? [01:38] what I don't get how they happen to be existing at the same time? [01:38] hackintosh? [01:38] yes when i installed hackintosh it was gpt [01:38] if those were my drives, and i had the data backed up, i would wipe [01:38] and rebuild from scratch [01:38] BUT, before that [01:38] i would just try and resize that partition [01:39] or change the partition table type [01:39] resizing didn't work [01:39] how would I change partition table type? [01:39] http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc737510(WS.10).aspx [01:39] Fao1987, df -h [01:39] thats just the first think that came up for me ^^ [01:39] and also [01:39] free -m [01:40] I don't have another pc. [01:40] so in other words I should backup [01:40] wipe entire drive and start over [01:40] ?? [01:40] Fao1987, so could we please see the command [01:41] thanks [01:41] which one bobweaver? [01:41] both [01:41] df -h [01:41] free -m [01:41] thanks [01:42] http://imagebin.org/182182 [01:42] here you go [01:42] Fao1987: im saying, you should be prepared for that just incase [01:42] messing with partition tables and resizing is *not* trivial [01:43] and i wish you had really wiped that drive in the middle [01:43] but, you can probably sort it out [01:44] holstein i'm thinking wipe [01:44] Awesome and one more time you want to shrink sda3 right [01:44] how can I ensure this doesn't happen again [01:44] ? [01:44] yes sda3 [01:44] ok [01:45] listen real close [01:45] i'm all ears [01:45] open terminal [01:45] open [01:45] umount /mnt [01:45]