[03:29] <czajkowski> nn folks
[08:08] <jussi> czajkowski: when you wake up, one thing I just noticed about the loco directory. I was trying to find a loco that included boston, but when I searched for boston, only a few venues came up, not any locos. that could probably work better.
[08:40] <AlanBell> http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/resource-library/open-source-procurement-toolkit UK government talks about open source and Ubuntu gets a mention alongside RedHat in the Open Source Options document
[09:25] <jussi> AlanBell: epically awesome!
[09:25] <AlanBell> only took 2 years of lobbying to get that :)
[11:06] <czajkowski> jussi: all LD dev stuff is cjohnston or mhall119
[11:06] <jussi> czajkowski: ok. mhall119 cjohnston ^^^ :D
[11:07] <jussi> oh, and good morning czajkowski :)
[11:08] <czajkowski> jussi: morning
[11:08] <czajkowski> boston is the Ma team though so not sure what else you're looking for
[11:09] <jussi> czajkowski: yeah, I figured that. but Im after that the ma team comes up when I serarch for boston.
[11:09] <jussi> (it doesnt currently)
[11:09] <nigelb_> jussi: could you file a bug please?
[11:09] <jussi> nigelb_: of course. where?
[11:09] <czajkowski> jussi: on the ld
[11:09] <czajkowski> the footer says file a bug
[11:09] <jussi> oh :)
[11:09] <nigelb_> jussi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+filebug
[11:12] <jussi> nigelb: bug 885631
[11:12] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 885631 in loco-directory "Loco directory search does not show up loco when searching fro large/capital city. " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/885631
[11:14] <nigelb> jussi: Thanks :)
[11:15] <nigelb> jussi: So, right now its only a text search. That's why it doesn't work so well.
[11:15] <jussi> nigelb: yeah, I figured. now go fixor it! :D
[11:15] <nigelb> heh
[11:15]  * jussi hugs nigelb
[11:15] <nigelb> I've been careful to take up only things that I can finish this cycle :D
[11:15] <nigelb> Like, getting moe developers involved.
[11:15] <nigelb> jussi: Join us to fix it!
[11:15] <nigelb> :D
[11:16] <jussi> actually, nigelb, I didnt hug you at UDS. this is a large issue that needs rectifying!
[11:17] <nigelb> jussi: haha
[11:17]  * nigelb hugs jussi 
[12:35] <AlanBell> we need to fix search on summit
[12:35] <nigelb> There's either a bug or a work item for that.
[12:35] <nigelb> If it isn't, its on my list anyway.
[12:36] <AlanBell> the flat list of sessions should do it
[12:36] <nigelb> yeah, like what tumbleweed has
[12:36] <AlanBell> right now I am opening ical feeds in gedit and searching there
[12:36] <nigelb> Nice hack ;)
[12:36] <AlanBell> ctrl+f on the schedule page is useless
[12:37] <nigelb> Totally.
[14:02] <doctormo-other> txwikinger: Because Florida is one of the worst places I've ever visited, only better than Dallas.
[14:04] <txwikinger> doctormo-other: I was at UDS in Dallas
[14:04] <txwikinger> We met there
[14:04] <doctormo-other> yes
[14:04] <txwikinger> I used to live in Dallas
[14:05] <doctormo-other> Now mind you it wasn't the people, it was the paratide that really got on my nerves.
[14:05] <txwikinger> paratide?
[14:05] <txwikinger> Well.. Dallas is a special town
[14:05] <txwikinger> They should have gone to a hotel in the suburbs
[14:06] <txwikinger> Nobody wants to be around the placce UDS was
[14:07] <doctormo-other> apartheid*
[14:08] <txwikinger> We should have a UDS in Toronto
[14:11] <doctormo-other> txwikinger: We should have UDS in England, we've never had it there ;-)
[14:11] <AlanBell> won't happen :(
[14:11] <Daviey> doctormo-other: lets have it at my house.
[14:11] <doctormo-other> I still can't connect to these audio thigns, what are they supposed to play in?
[14:11] <AlanBell> doctormo-other: vlc or totem
[14:11] <doctormo-other> totem is a no go, nothing plays fromt he m3u file
[14:12] <Daviey> doctormo-other: fwiw, the very first UDS was in England.. :)
[14:12] <Daviey> Although, not sure it was called UDS then :(
[14:12] <doctormo-other> Daviey: doesn't count, I wasn't invited.
[14:12] <nigelb> Daviey: UDS at your house? I'm in!
[14:12] <Daviey> groovy.
[14:13] <txwikinger> Daviey: No sure I am reay to go back to UK though ;P
[14:13] <Daviey> me neither, it's nice and warm here.
[14:13] <txwikinger> ha.. I am waiting for the snow
[14:13]  * txwikinger loves winter with snow
[14:14]  * txwikinger shouldn't forget his dentist appointment today over all the UDS stuff
[14:15] <txwikinger> Is it only me, or are there far fewer interesting sessions this year?
[14:15] <popey> its lts
[14:15] <popey> there are far fewer interesting things happening
[14:15] <popey> bugfix and polish is the order of the day
[14:15] <doctormo-other> txwikinger: Compared to when? I think the most interesting one was UDS Boston, because I was the most ignorant then.
[14:15] <AlanBell> may you live in interesting times
[14:16] <popey> i need more stickers for my laptop
[14:16] <popey> decided to cover it
[14:16] <doctormo-other> popey: What kind would you like?
[14:16] <txwikinger> Well I was only at the one  at Dallas, and I could hardly get some breath there
[14:17] <txwikinger> the one afte that was good also, I got up every morning at 4am not to miss anything
[14:18] <txwikinger> popey: I have no problems with bugfixes and polish.. however, some things are not as easy to attend when remote
[14:18] <doctormo-other> txwikinger: The dinners are really hard to attend remotely.
[14:18] <txwikinger> doctormo-other: indeed
[14:43] <cjohnston> AlanBell: could the 'legacy' pad be kept for a while after the switch
[14:44] <AlanBell> yeah, probably
[14:53] <doctormo-other> popey: Grab a Vancouver Ubuntu sticker, oh wait, not at UDS right. :-(
[14:54] <AlanBell> cjohnston: ideally we would iterate through all the created pages, scoop up the text and chuck it into the etherpad lite server, but I don't want to set that as an expectation just yet
[14:55] <AlanBell> if people are pleasantly surprised we kept all their data then that is perfect
[15:00] <cjohnston> right.. and im asking for worst case
[15:01] <AlanBell> yeah, we can definitely keep the current pad server kicking about for as long as we want
[15:02] <AlanBell> but it might have to move off the pad.ubuntu.com URL to oldpad.ubuntu.com or something
[15:03] <AlanBell> and we won't be putting anything into production before the end of this year
[15:03] <cjohnston> !fail
[15:03] <ubot2> Shaka, when the walls fell.
[15:03] <cjohnston> massive !fail
[15:03] <AlanBell> what is?
[15:03] <nigelb> cjohnston: You are welcome to do the mgiration.
[15:04] <cjohnston> not moving sooner
[15:04] <nigelb> cjohnston: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[15:04] <nigelb> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[15:04] <nigelb> Really? :D
[15:05] <AlanBell> actually, we should do it this evening to be ready for friday sessions nigelb
[15:05] <cjohnston> no
[15:05] <cjohnston> but the next <2 months
[15:05] <AlanBell> to production?
[15:05] <cjohnston> yes
[15:06] <cjohnston> jcastro: if you see dpm please send him to bonaire-4
[15:06] <AlanBell> is there some time pressure we don't know about?
[15:07] <cjohnston> yes.. not doing crap the week before uds
[15:07] <AlanBell> I have *no* intention of doing crap in the week before UDS
[15:07] <nigelb> cjohnston: I can guarantee you something,
[15:07] <nigelb> Its not happening at least in the next 4 months.
[15:07] <cjohnston> that it will be done in the middle of the next uds
[15:07] <AlanBell> I am thinking of doing the SSO before christmas, then deploying in january
[15:08] <cjohnston> by sso what do you mean
[15:08] <AlanBell> if we deploy to production before the SSO is done then that would be silly
[15:08] <AlanBell> login.ubuntu.com integration with node.js
[15:08] <cjohnston> is that not done already?
[15:08] <AlanBell> so the pad knows who you are, and requires login to edit and presents read only to unauthed users
[15:08] <AlanBell> no
[15:09] <AlanBell> and we don't fancy doing it on the java based etherpad
[15:09] <nigelb> +1
[15:10] <cjohnston> k
[15:11] <AlanBell> at the moment there is an ugly hack with an apache reverse proxy in front of the etherpad server, and you need SSO to get the proxy to happen
[15:11] <AlanBell> etherpad doesn't know who you are at all, so we can't kick out anyone being disruptive
[15:11] <AlanBell> it is security theatre at the moment
[15:14] <popey> jcastro: can I do a lightning talk tomorrow pls?
[15:15] <nigelb> popey: be there after lunch in the queue.
[15:15] <nigelb> That's it.
[15:15] <nigelb> First come, first serve
[17:12] <doctormo-other> pleia2: *hug* thanks for mentioning deviantArt
[17:55] <pleia2> doctormo-other: of course :)
[20:22] <bkerensa> AlanBell: PM?
[20:22] <AlanBell> sure
[21:02] <AlanBell> popey: bkerensa: o/
[21:03] <bkerensa> ?
[21:03] <popey> hello
[21:03] <AlanBell> I gave popey a link to the draft post
[21:04] <AlanBell> popey: I suggested also linking to the canonical blog white paper article
[21:04] <popey> also worth pointing out the guy who maintains the installer for Ubuntu (Colin Watson) believes there is no malicious intent from HP (or other vendors) which is implied by the article.
[21:05] <popey> More likely it's just a bug in the Ubuntu installer
[21:05] <popey> and the absolutely best thing that could be done is file a bug about the issue
[21:05] <AlanBell> has that been done bkerensa?
[21:06] <bkerensa> AlanBell: Idk... Allison Randal (Canonical) is helping the person via ML last time I checked
[21:09] <bkerensa> posted
[21:09]  * bkerensa has to do a conference call to L.A. ttyl
[21:10] <AlanBell> great
[21:18] <bkerensa> OMG
[21:18] <bkerensa> :(
[21:18] <bkerensa> epic echo
[21:33] <czajkowski> what is scott richies irc nick
[21:34] <cjohnston> YokoZar
[21:37] <czajkowski> cjohnston: thanks
[22:31] <doctormo-other> cjohnston: It's taking forever to download some test data for the loco directory, do you have any advice?
[22:36] <AlanBell> put the kettle on?
[22:37] <AlanBell> it does take ages
[22:37] <doctormo-other> AlanBell: Nah i decided to hack commands/import-live-data.py and disable a few of the big ones, like users and comments.
[22:37] <AlanBell> good thinking
[22:38] <AlanBell> what are comments?
[22:38] <doctormo-other> No idea, even if they're empty I don't need them ;-)
[22:39] <doctormo-other> AlanBell: How are you today?
[22:41] <AlanBell> good thanks
[22:45] <doctormo-other> OK so semi-data isn't useful, which is annoying.
[22:46] <doctormo-other> And the data from live is too big to be useful.
[23:21] <doctormo-other> AlanBell, cjohnston: optional banner art for loco team pages: http://imagebin.org/182343
[23:22] <AlanBell> interesting stuff :)
[23:22] <doctormo-other> Turn your loco page into your home page! read the brain wave.
[23:22] <AlanBell> would that stay there for all things within the loco?
[23:22] <AlanBell> so if you are on an event or whatever
[23:23] <AlanBell> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1373/detail/ for example
[23:23] <AlanBell> not sure the banner should be between main nav and subnav, but that isn't essential to the concept
[23:24] <doctormo-other> AlanBell: On my example code, it's only on the team_detail page, but it's intergrated into the theme so any page could switch it on.
[23:24] <AlanBell> that kind of thing might help it feel more like a microsite for the loco
[23:25] <doctormo-other> AlanBell: You're not attending your own event?
[23:25] <AlanBell> nah, far too far for me
[23:26] <AlanBell> I am running the Happy Hour series, not going to every one of them :)
[23:26] <doctormo-other> But yes that looks like just the kind of page to put this on.
[23:27] <AlanBell> a fairly recent change I made was on the event page the first option on the subnav now goes back to the ubuntu-uk team_details page
[23:27] <AlanBell> rather than to the somewhat offputting global events list http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/
[23:28] <doctormo-other> Good change!
[23:28] <AlanBell> I see very little value in the global list of events and meetings tbh
[23:29] <doctormo-other> That's a programmers design: list all
[23:29] <doctormo-other> Well if I can get two loco directory devels to thumbs up the concept, I'll finish the coding.
[23:52] <mhall119> doctormo-other: I like the idea, but agree with AlanBell that it looks odd sitting between the main nav and sub nav
[23:52] <mhall119> also, we'll have to make sure that the image adheres to certain width and height restrictions
[23:53] <mhall119> and I assume that we're going to allow teams to upload the picture, rather than having it hosted elsewhere, so I'll need to check with IS and make sure we've got a place on the filesystem to store them