| Cheesehead | Hang on... | 00:00 |
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| jrgifford | yeah, it looks like an untitled document here as well. | 00:00 |
| Cheesehead | https://docs.google.com/document/d/13VOmTgEqCzIW8oITV2d5fIRD3xsiKRVMd39OUlpx6xQ/edit?hl=en_US | 00:00 |
| Cheesehead | I missed part of the tail the the previous paste. Apologies. | 00:00 |
| jrgifford | ok, it's loading how. thanks Cheesehead. :) | 00:01 |
| * Cheesehead waits to see if the list comes up... | 00:01 | |
| Cheesehead | The way I plan to run my sessions is Very Little Lecture (TM) | 00:01 |
| * Cheesehead jokes about trademarks becasue he thinks it's funny. Nobody else does | 00:01 | |
| Cheesehead | Thanks, narrator. | 00:02 |
| jrgifford | heh, i joke about trademarks all the time. :D | 00:02 |
| Cheesehead | Mostly sharing stories | 00:02 |
| jrgifford | they be funny | 00:02 |
| Cheesehead | A shill or two in the audience (assistant) to keep the conversation moving | 00:02 |
| * philipballew learns to read | 00:02 | |
| * philipballew reads document | 00:02 | |
| Cheesehead | And as each story touches on an important point, the trainer just hilights it. | 00:02 |
| philipballew | so what happens when I sign up for a topic? | 00:03 |
| Cheesehead | It's a style that works well with 5-8 participants | 00:03 |
| Cheesehead | When you sign up for a topic, I get notified (because I subscribe to the page) | 00:03 |
| Cheesehead | And when I create the schedule, I put you on it. | 00:03 |
| philipballew | so am i leading a session on this topic? | 00:04 |
| Cheesehead | If someone is uncomfortable or nervaouss and wants to do a 10-minute practice run, that can be easily arranged. | 00:04 |
| Cheesehead | If you sign up as a trainer, you are volunteering to lead a workshop. | 00:05 |
| Cheesehead | Any skills strike you? (Any not on the list, too?) | 00:05 |
| * Cheesehead fills the dishwasher | 00:08 | |
| Cheesehead | If you sign up as an assistant, then you're supporting the trainer however they need. | 00:10 |
| philipballew | ChanServ, I have run sessions both in ubuntu user days and ubuntu open week | 00:10 |
| philipballew | no... | 00:10 |
| philipballew | Cheesehead, ^ | 00:10 |
| philipballew | I am okay in that area | 00:10 |
| * Cheesehead is confused | 00:11 | |
| Cheesehead | Which area? | 00:11 |
| jrgifford | in the public-irc-speaking area | 00:11 |
| Cheesehead | That's an important skill right there. | 00:12 |
| Cheesehead | Speaking on what topics? | 00:12 |
| jrgifford | he should teach us that | 00:12 |
| philipballew | here, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/philipballew | 00:12 |
| * Cheesehead reads | 00:13 | |
| philipballew | its on the table of contents on ubuntu classroom | 00:13 |
| * Cheesehead still reads | 00:15 | |
| * philipballew still pretends to know what he is doing | 00:16 | |
| * Cheesehead also pretends to know what he is doing | 00:16 | |
| * Cheesehead still reads while cleaning the kitchen | 00:19 | |
| * philipballew does homework | 00:19 | |
| philipballew | correction | 00:20 |
| * philipballew attempts homework | 00:20 | |
| Cheesehead | I see on your blog you planned and executed a successful Ubuntu Hour, and followed it up with more ideas to improve it. That's another whole session right there. | 00:21 |
| Cheesehead | How comfortable are you with facilitating discussions instead of the more-common lecture format? | 00:23 |
| jrgifford | i don't think you're asking me, but i'm somewhat familiar. | 00:24 |
| * Cheesehead is trying to recruit jrgifford, too | 00:24 | |
| jrgifford | hehe. | 00:24 |
| philipballew | Cheesehead, I run a ubuntu hour all the time | 00:24 |
| Cheesehead | jrgifford: How about your favorite skills from the list? | 00:24 |
| philipballew | have run two different ones | 00:25 |
| jrgifford | Cheesehead: reading it right now | 00:25 |
| philipballew | creating discussion. I can do that. I am currently blogging about what to do when noone comes to your ubuntu hour | 00:25 |
| philipballew | it happened last night :) | 00:25 |
| jrgifford | I like turning lurkers into awesome folks | 00:25 |
| jrgifford | i'm not good, but I like trying. | 00:26 |
| philipballew | all the main people were at uds | 00:26 |
| Cheesehead | philipballew: I run one, too. And nobody comes. So I think Ubuntu Hour Strategies and Tactics is a rich field for discussion. | 00:26 |
| philipballew | or catholic church | 00:26 |
| philipballew | I will talk about that and try to get people talking | 00:26 |
| Cheesehead | philipballew: Would you *please* add that skill to the googledocs list? and then, *pretty please* sign up as a trainer for that subject on the wiki page? | 00:27 |
| philipballew | alright. | 00:27 |
| * philipballew again attempts to act like he knows what he is doing | 00:27 | |
| Cheesehead | On the wiki, please put me down as an assistant. I'll be there anyway, so I may as well help... | 00:28 |
| philipballew | alright. I would love to | 00:28 |
| * Cheesehead snaps the chain shut around philipballew's ankle | 00:29 | |
| philipballew | UBUNTU FOR LIFE!!!! | 00:29 |
| Cheesehead | philipballew: Whose life? (or what object's life?) | 00:30 |
| philipballew | My life . lol | 00:30 |
| philipballew | where's the wiki from this afternoon? | 00:30 |
| Cheesehead | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/meeting/19370/community-p-leadership-team/ | 00:31 |
| Cheesehead | ? | 00:31 |
| philipballew | yeah, this | 00:32 |
| philipballew | well i can use this to get to the page to add my name | 00:32 |
| Cheesehead | Add your name? | 00:33 |
| * Cheesehead meant https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Projects#skills for IRC workshops | 00:34 | |
| philipballew | well Cheesehead is that not where I should add my name? | 00:34 |
| Cheesehead | Please add your name to the wiki link. You can add your name to the summit link if you wish -of course-, but the wiki link is what I'm using for the IRC planning | 00:35 |
| philipballew | Cheesehead, ok, so what is the exact link you need me to have | 00:36 |
| * philipballew has seen to many links today | 00:36 | |
| philipballew | Cheesehead, https://docs.google.com/document/d/13VOmTgEqCzIW8oITV2d5fIRD3xsiKRVMd39OUlpx6xQ/edit?hl=en_US is that look good | 00:39 |
| Cheesehead | philipballew: Er, would you mind terribly moving your additions down to #37-ish? | 00:39 |
| * Cheesehead shuts up when he sees philipballew is ahead of me | 00:40 | |
| philipballew | :) | 00:40 |
| Cheesehead | Gentlemen, those three ideas look great. | 00:40 |
| Cheesehead | next step is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Projects#skills | 00:41 |
| philipballew | I have no problem running all the discussions on these ideas here I have presented | 00:41 |
| Cheesehead | philipballew: Then do *please* sign yourself up on the wiki link I just posted... | 00:41 |
| philipballew | Cheesehead, what exactly is assistant and trainer? | 00:41 |
| philipballew | so I know what's up around here these days | 00:42 |
| jrgifford | excellent, Cheesehead you be organized | 00:42 |
| Cheesehead | Trainer is primary. Assistant is whatever help is needed or wanted. | 00:42 |
| Cheesehead | Trainer is the subject expert, assistant need not be an expert. | 00:42 |
| Cheesehead | For example, my assistants will help facilitate slow conversation. | 00:42 |
| Cheesehead | As the trainer, it's the ace up my sleeve to prevent a slow class. | 00:43 |
| jrgifford | ok, i'll add myself in the morning, need to go now. | 00:43 |
| jrgifford | awesome, I love the way this is going. | 00:43 |
| Cheesehead | jrgifford: Thank you! Have a good night. | 00:43 |
| * jrgifford is going to steal some tricks from Cheesehead for the ubuntu power users group. :D | 00:44 | |
| Cheesehead | That's what sharing is for :) It's only stealing if you gove nothing back... | 00:44 |
| Cheesehead | like better spelling | 00:45 |
| philipballew | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Projects | 00:45 |
| philipballew | ^look at the mess I might have made | 00:45 |
| Cheesehead | Fabulous. | 00:46 |
| * philipballew gets dinner | 00:48 | |
| philipballew | nothing beats school cafeteria food | 00:48 |
| Cheesehead | philipballew: Thanks for getting involved, and for digging until you found gold! | 00:49 |
| Cheesehead | I plan to work up a tentative schedule Friday, I'll send it 'round e-mail. | 00:49 |
| philipballew | alright. i want to see this take off. it looks cool! | 00:50 |
| Cheesehead | For feedback. Since, of course, trainers need to be able to make their sessions! | 00:50 |
| * Cheesehead mus go off to put kids to bed | 00:50 | |
| Cheesehead | Have agood night, everybody! | 00:50 |
| * Cheesehead looks at his fingers in disbelief | 00:50 | |
| * Cheesehead departs | 00:51 | |
| Cheesehead | valorie, DarwinSurvivor, philipballew : IRC session tentative schedule at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Projects . I would certainly love input, especially about how to make the time zones work.... | 02:13 |
| philipballew | I live in California | 02:14 |
| Cheesehead | philipballew: Right. I don;t want you to have to get up in the middle of the night to teach. that would be silly. | 02:14 |
| Cheesehead | But it's just as silly for us to ignore Ubuntu members at the antipodes | 02:14 |
| philipballew | I would rather do that then like 6 am | 02:15 |
| DarwinSurvivor | Cheesehead: i think we should find out what time zones people are in that want to attend | 02:15 |
| philipballew | thats when I get up for uds this week | 02:15 |
| DarwinSurvivor | if someone isn't planning on attending, no point in working their time-zone into it | 02:15 |
| Cheesehead | DarwinSurvivor: True, but then are we guilty of North-America-centrism? | 02:16 |
| DarwinSurvivor | not if there is no interrest outside of north ameria | 02:16 |
| DarwinSurvivor | *america | 02:16 |
| philipballew | What time will these be in regular people time? | 02:17 |
| DarwinSurvivor | if someone from europe/china/japan/africa/etc wants to attend, we can try to work the schedule to accomodate them | 02:17 |
| DarwinSurvivor | philipballew: define "regular people time" :P | 02:17 |
| philipballew | This is going to sound bad now | 02:17 |
| Cheesehead | I think some time-shifting (morning and evening) will be needed. That;s one option. | 02:17 |
| philipballew | California Time | 02:17 |
| DarwinSurvivor | well, that works for me! (british columbia) | 02:18 |
| Cheesehead | Well, 0500 in CA is 2200 in Tokyo | 02:18 |
| DarwinSurvivor | although we really should post everything in UTC, so people only need to convert once. | 02:18 |
| Cheesehead | But evening people in CA and morning people in JP get annoyed by that. | 02:19 |
| Cheesehead | (I'm a morning person) | 02:19 |
| DarwinSurvivor | when do we find out who is interrested? | 02:19 |
| Cheesehead | Agreed, final time posting will be in UTC - that's an accepted standard in the community | 02:19 |
| Cheesehead | DarwinSurvivor: Ah, there;s the rub | 02:19 |
| DarwinSurvivor | do we get some notice, or do they just "show up"? | 02:19 |
| Cheesehead | Show up | 02:19 |
| DarwinSurvivor | ah.... | 02:20 |
| DarwinSurvivor | how is it advertised? | 02:20 |
| philipballew | i will blog to the planet | 02:20 |
| Cheesehead | Well, blog, planet, fridge, IRC Chatter, e-mail, etc. Everything except TV. | 02:20 |
| DarwinSurvivor | so it's just everyone personally sending out where-ever? | 02:20 |
| DarwinSurvivor | will there be anything on the ubuntu site? other than the fridge | 02:21 |
| Cheesehead | Ubuntu site? | 02:21 |
| Cheesehead | I think most of our interested folks keep an eye on the planet, UWN, and their favorite team meetings. | 02:22 |
| DarwinSurvivor | basically, is canonical going to be doing any announcements about upcoming training sessions, or is it 100% up to us? | 02:22 |
| Cheesehead | 100% us | 02:22 |
| Cheesehead | Anything from Canonical is a bonus. | 02:22 |
| Cheesehead | It's not their project. | 02:23 |
| philipballew | it wont happen from them | 02:23 |
| Cheesehead | philipballew: We don;t know that. | 02:23 |
| philipballew | I guess not | 02:23 |
| DarwinSurvivor | ok | 02:23 |
| Cheesehead | Sure, we could launch a "Hey, Jono, please blog about this"..and he probably would. But is that going to get any extra participants on board? | 02:24 |
| DarwinSurvivor | does anyone remember that site we used a while back to pick meeting times? (voting for time slots) | 02:24 |
| Cheesehead | I'm heading off to bed in a minute. We don't need to decide this tonight. Just think about the issues - how can we plan the times for maximum participation and minimum confusion? | 02:25 |
| Cheesehead | (and take a look at that wiki link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Projects to see if the general flow makes sense) | 02:26 |
| philipballew | it looks good. | 02:26 |
| philipballew | what is going to be the governing structure here you think? | 02:27 |
| Cheesehead | structure? | 02:27 |
| philipballew | well we have people in charge here, or will it be more all in charge? | 02:27 |
| Cheesehead | Well, me have a lot of polite people here, too. | 02:28 |
| Cheesehead | My topics involve a lot of sharing, so I plan to use that gregariousness | 02:28 |
| Cheesehead | I also plan to have a shill in the audience to help keep things flowing the right direction | 02:29 |
| Cheesehead | PLus, if needed, the channel can be moderated | 02:30 |
| Cheesehead | Am I addressing structure? | 02:30 |
| Cheesehead | I wonder about Dec 6 and Dec 20. They are closely related. I must ask them if they want to build on each other's session, or if I should split them up. | 02:33 |
| * Cheesehead yawns | 02:33 | |
| Cheesehead | Ah, my toothbrush is calling. Good night! | 02:33 |
| * Cheesehead departs | 02:34 | |
| benonsoftware | Hello all | 06:46 |
| valorie | hi folks -- I'm willing to do my session any time, or twice, or whatever works | 07:05 |
| valorie | I"m NOT a morning person, but I'll prepare | 07:06 |
| valorie | and if it's 5am, I'll go back to bed afterwards | 07:06 |
| valorie | :-) | 07:06 |
| valorie | of course, I would prefer afternoons and evenings my time, PDT | 07:15 |
| benonsoftware | kkkl | 07:16 |
| benonsoftware | Sorry | 07:16 |
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| * Cheesehead reads scrollback and sees valorie's input. Thanks. | 10:03 | |
| NRWlion | hey there | 13:51 |
| jrgifford | hello NRWlion! | 13:51 |
| Cheesehead | pleia2: Thanks for the classroom e-mail response. That's exactly what I needed to update the "Guidance for Trainers" wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Projects . Do you mind if I copy-and-paste your description of the three IRC channels? | 23:43 |
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