[00:00] Hang on... [00:00] yeah, it looks like an untitled document here as well. [00:00] https://docs.google.com/document/d/13VOmTgEqCzIW8oITV2d5fIRD3xsiKRVMd39OUlpx6xQ/edit?hl=en_US [00:00] I missed part of the tail the the previous paste. Apologies. [00:01] ok, it's loading how. thanks Cheesehead. :) [00:01] * Cheesehead waits to see if the list comes up... [00:01] The way I plan to run my sessions is Very Little Lecture (TM) [00:01] * Cheesehead jokes about trademarks becasue he thinks it's funny. Nobody else does [00:02] Thanks, narrator. [00:02] heh, i joke about trademarks all the time. :D [00:02] Mostly sharing stories [00:02] they be funny [00:02] A shill or two in the audience (assistant) to keep the conversation moving [00:02] * philipballew learns to read [00:02] * philipballew reads document [00:02] And as each story touches on an important point, the trainer just hilights it. [00:03] so what happens when I sign up for a topic? [00:03] It's a style that works well with 5-8 participants [00:03] When you sign up for a topic, I get notified (because I subscribe to the page) [00:03] And when I create the schedule, I put you on it. [00:04] so am i leading a session on this topic? [00:04] If someone is uncomfortable or nervaouss and wants to do a 10-minute practice run, that can be easily arranged. [00:05] If you sign up as a trainer, you are volunteering to lead a workshop. [00:05] Any skills strike you? (Any not on the list, too?) [00:08] * Cheesehead fills the dishwasher [00:10] If you sign up as an assistant, then you're supporting the trainer however they need. [00:10] ChanServ, I have run sessions both in ubuntu user days and ubuntu open week [00:10] no... [00:10] Cheesehead, ^ [00:10] I am okay in that area [00:11] * Cheesehead is confused [00:11] Which area? [00:11] in the public-irc-speaking area [00:12] That's an important skill right there. [00:12] Speaking on what topics? [00:12] he should teach us that [00:12] here, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/philipballew [00:13] * Cheesehead reads [00:13] its on the table of contents on ubuntu classroom [00:15] * Cheesehead still reads [00:16] * philipballew still pretends to know what he is doing [00:16] * Cheesehead also pretends to know what he is doing [00:19] * Cheesehead still reads while cleaning the kitchen [00:19] * philipballew does homework [00:20] correction [00:20] * philipballew attempts homework [00:21] I see on your blog you planned and executed a successful Ubuntu Hour, and followed it up with more ideas to improve it. That's another whole session right there. [00:23] How comfortable are you with facilitating discussions instead of the more-common lecture format? [00:24] i don't think you're asking me, but i'm somewhat familiar. [00:24] * Cheesehead is trying to recruit jrgifford, too [00:24] hehe. [00:24] Cheesehead, I run a ubuntu hour all the time [00:24] jrgifford: How about your favorite skills from the list? [00:25] have run two different ones [00:25] Cheesehead: reading it right now [00:25] creating discussion. I can do that. I am currently blogging about what to do when noone comes to your ubuntu hour [00:25] it happened last night :) [00:25] I like turning lurkers into awesome folks [00:26] i'm not good, but I like trying. [00:26] all the main people were at uds [00:26] philipballew: I run one, too. And nobody comes. So I think Ubuntu Hour Strategies and Tactics is a rich field for discussion. [00:26] or catholic church [00:26] I will talk about that and try to get people talking [00:27] philipballew: Would you *please* add that skill to the googledocs list? and then, *pretty please* sign up as a trainer for that subject on the wiki page? [00:27] alright. [00:27] * philipballew again attempts to act like he knows what he is doing [00:28] On the wiki, please put me down as an assistant. I'll be there anyway, so I may as well help... [00:28] alright. I would love to [00:29] * Cheesehead snaps the chain shut around philipballew's ankle [00:29] UBUNTU FOR LIFE!!!! [00:30] philipballew: Whose life? (or what object's life?) [00:30] My life . lol [00:30] where's the wiki from this afternoon? [00:31] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/meeting/19370/community-p-leadership-team/ [00:31] ? [00:32] yeah, this [00:32] well i can use this to get to the page to add my name [00:33] Add your name? [00:34] * Cheesehead meant https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Projects#skills for IRC workshops [00:34] well Cheesehead is that not where I should add my name? [00:35] Please add your name to the wiki link. You can add your name to the summit link if you wish -of course-, but the wiki link is what I'm using for the IRC planning [00:36] Cheesehead, ok, so what is the exact link you need me to have [00:36] * philipballew has seen to many links today [00:39] Cheesehead, https://docs.google.com/document/d/13VOmTgEqCzIW8oITV2d5fIRD3xsiKRVMd39OUlpx6xQ/edit?hl=en_US is that look good [00:39] philipballew: Er, would you mind terribly moving your additions down to #37-ish? [00:40] * Cheesehead shuts up when he sees philipballew is ahead of me [00:40] :) [00:40] Gentlemen, those three ideas look great. [00:41] next step is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Projects#skills [00:41] I have no problem running all the discussions on these ideas here I have presented [00:41] philipballew: Then do *please* sign yourself up on the wiki link I just posted... [00:41] Cheesehead, what exactly is assistant and trainer? [00:42] so I know what's up around here these days [00:42] excellent, Cheesehead you be organized [00:42] Trainer is primary. Assistant is whatever help is needed or wanted. [00:42] Trainer is the subject expert, assistant need not be an expert. [00:42] For example, my assistants will help facilitate slow conversation. [00:43] As the trainer, it's the ace up my sleeve to prevent a slow class. [00:43] ok, i'll add myself in the morning, need to go now. [00:43] awesome, I love the way this is going. [00:43] jrgifford: Thank you! Have a good night. [00:44] * jrgifford is going to steal some tricks from Cheesehead for the ubuntu power users group. :D [00:44] That's what sharing is for :) It's only stealing if you gove nothing back... [00:45] like better spelling [00:45] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Projects [00:45] ^look at the mess I might have made [00:46] Fabulous. [00:48] * philipballew gets dinner [00:48] nothing beats school cafeteria food [00:49] philipballew: Thanks for getting involved, and for digging until you found gold! [00:49] I plan to work up a tentative schedule Friday, I'll send it 'round e-mail. [00:50] alright. i want to see this take off. it looks cool! [00:50] For feedback. Since, of course, trainers need to be able to make their sessions! [00:50] * Cheesehead mus go off to put kids to bed [00:50] Have agood night, everybody! [00:50] * Cheesehead looks at his fingers in disbelief [00:51] * Cheesehead departs [02:13] valorie, DarwinSurvivor, philipballew : IRC session tentative schedule at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Projects . I would certainly love input, especially about how to make the time zones work.... [02:14] I live in California [02:14] philipballew: Right. I don;t want you to have to get up in the middle of the night to teach. that would be silly. [02:14] But it's just as silly for us to ignore Ubuntu members at the antipodes [02:15] I would rather do that then like 6 am [02:15] Cheesehead: i think we should find out what time zones people are in that want to attend [02:15] thats when I get up for uds this week [02:15] if someone isn't planning on attending, no point in working their time-zone into it [02:16] DarwinSurvivor: True, but then are we guilty of North-America-centrism? [02:16] not if there is no interrest outside of north ameria [02:16] *america [02:17] What time will these be in regular people time? [02:17] if someone from europe/china/japan/africa/etc wants to attend, we can try to work the schedule to accomodate them [02:17] philipballew: define "regular people time" :P [02:17] This is going to sound bad now [02:17] I think some time-shifting (morning and evening) will be needed. That;s one option. [02:17] California Time [02:18] well, that works for me! (british columbia) [02:18] Well, 0500 in CA is 2200 in Tokyo [02:18] although we really should post everything in UTC, so people only need to convert once. [02:19] But evening people in CA and morning people in JP get annoyed by that. [02:19] (I'm a morning person) [02:19] when do we find out who is interrested? [02:19] Agreed, final time posting will be in UTC - that's an accepted standard in the community [02:19] DarwinSurvivor: Ah, there;s the rub [02:19] do we get some notice, or do they just "show up"? [02:19] Show up [02:20] ah.... [02:20] how is it advertised? [02:20] i will blog to the planet [02:20] Well, blog, planet, fridge, IRC Chatter, e-mail, etc. Everything except TV. [02:20] so it's just everyone personally sending out where-ever? [02:21] will there be anything on the ubuntu site? other than the fridge [02:21] Ubuntu site? [02:22] I think most of our interested folks keep an eye on the planet, UWN, and their favorite team meetings. [02:22] basically, is canonical going to be doing any announcements about upcoming training sessions, or is it 100% up to us? [02:22] 100% us [02:22] Anything from Canonical is a bonus. [02:23] It's not their project. [02:23] it wont happen from them [02:23] philipballew: We don;t know that. [02:23] I guess not [02:23] ok [02:24] Sure, we could launch a "Hey, Jono, please blog about this"..and he probably would. But is that going to get any extra participants on board? [02:24] does anyone remember that site we used a while back to pick meeting times? (voting for time slots) [02:25] I'm heading off to bed in a minute. We don't need to decide this tonight. Just think about the issues - how can we plan the times for maximum participation and minimum confusion? [02:26] (and take a look at that wiki link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Projects to see if the general flow makes sense) [02:26] it looks good. [02:27] what is going to be the governing structure here you think? [02:27] structure? [02:27] well we have people in charge here, or will it be more all in charge? [02:28] Well, me have a lot of polite people here, too. [02:28] My topics involve a lot of sharing, so I plan to use that gregariousness [02:29] I also plan to have a shill in the audience to help keep things flowing the right direction [02:30] PLus, if needed, the channel can be moderated [02:30] Am I addressing structure? [02:33] I wonder about Dec 6 and Dec 20. They are closely related. I must ask them if they want to build on each other's session, or if I should split them up. [02:33] * Cheesehead yawns [02:33] Ah, my toothbrush is calling. Good night! [02:34] * Cheesehead departs [06:46] Hello all [07:05] hi folks -- I'm willing to do my session any time, or twice, or whatever works [07:06] I"m NOT a morning person, but I'll prepare [07:06] and if it's 5am, I'll go back to bed afterwards [07:06] :-) [07:15] of course, I would prefer afternoons and evenings my time, PDT [07:16] kkkl [07:16] Sorry === head_victim is now known as Guest2055 [10:03] * Cheesehead reads scrollback and sees valorie's input. Thanks. [13:51] hey there [13:51] hello NRWlion! [23:43] pleia2: Thanks for the classroom e-mail response. That's exactly what I needed to update the "Guidance for Trainers" wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Projects . Do you mind if I copy-and-paste your description of the three IRC channels?